| doctormo | I'm very close to a release of groundcontrol nigel_nb, you can get the release and the deb from a ppa on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~doctormo | 01:12 |
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| nigel_nb | awesome doctormo :) | 01:12 |
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| gogonez | d | 09:54 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: you about? | 14:26 |
| mhall119|work | cprofitt is in #ubuntu-locoteams | 14:26 |
| pleia2 | I am thinking we should move forward with course development in moodle | 14:27 |
| pleia2 | we can come back to the bzr+asciidoc thing, there is always possibility for backporting | 14:27 |
| * mhall119|work wishes he had more time to be involved in ubuntu-learning | 14:27 | |
| cprofitt | pleia2: | 14:30 |
| cprofitt | I am here -- what is up with bzr+asciidoc? | 14:30 |
| pleia2 | nigel is still working on documenting it | 14:30 |
| pleia2 | then it probably needs more review... | 14:31 |
| cprofitt | well... it will need more review after we use it the first time with Moodle... | 14:31 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 14:31 |
| cprofitt | do you have a partial course done in asciidoc -- on asciidoc itself... | 14:32 |
| pleia2 | so I think moving forward on other avenues is good instead of being stuck here | 14:32 |
| cprofitt | I could at least start converting it. | 14:32 |
| cprofitt | or are we looking to do other courses w/ Moodle? | 14:32 |
| pleia2 | for asciidoc itself I think we're just including a few basic examples in nigel's course and then linking to existing resources for more complicated things that people may want sometimes | 14:32 |
| pleia2 | we want to do all courses in moodle and asciidoc :) | 14:32 |
| pleia2 | we can start with moodle and backport to asciidoc once we get that workflow sorted | 14:33 |
| cprofitt | just so I am clear -- is there an asciidoc course on asciidoc that I can convert to Moodle? | 14:35 |
| pleia2 | no, it's part of nigel's course that he's still working on | 14:36 |
| cprofitt | ok -- so I should create a course in Moodle on some other subject | 14:37 |
| pleia2 | yeah, start developing in moodle :) | 14:45 |
| nigel_nb | moodle? what? where? who? | 14:45 |
| pleia2 | I am going to chug away at some courses in open office, I just want to get material out there so it stops looking like we're a dead project that get stuck and stalled every 5 seconds | 14:45 |
| pleia2 | nigel_nb: we're moving forward with course development on other platforms, we've been stuck on bzr+asciidoc for months | 14:46 |
| nigel_nb | pleia2: I agree | 14:46 |
| pleia2 | we'll use the bzr+asciidoc workflow eventually, but for now we need some content :) | 14:46 |
| pleia2 | plus it'll be less pressure on you ;) | 14:46 |
| nigel_nb | I'd rather have everyone write in open office and someone sit and convert (I dont mind the conversion) | 14:47 |
| pleia2 | me too (I don't mind conversion either, it's relaxing work!) | 14:48 |
| nigel_nb | then I say go for it | 14:48 |
| nigel_nb | did u see the ubuntu manual project? | 14:48 |
| nigel_nb | they are going to bring out a new version every cycle starting from lucid | 14:49 |
| pleia2 | ubuntu manual project? | 14:50 |
| nigel_nb | yeah or something like that | 14:51 |
| pleia2 | I don't think so, link? | 14:51 |
| nigel_nb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual | 14:51 |
| nigel_nb | now I think they have a channel and stuff | 14:51 |
| pleia2 | oh boy | 14:55 |
| pleia2 | there are too many of these projects floating around :) | 14:55 |
| nigel_nb | they have slightly different goals from us | 14:56 |
| nigel_nb | but I'm loving it ;) | 14:56 |
| cprofitt | Yeah -- manuals can be the source of training, but they are not courses or training | 14:57 |
| cprofitt | they would be a good team to work with when we need documentation for courses though | 14:57 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 14:57 |
| nigel_nb | exactly my point | 14:58 |
| nigel_nb | with lucid, we are going to cross a certain threshold I'm sure | 14:59 |
| cprofitt | pleia2: this course look like a good one to finish up - http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=8 | 14:59 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: yeah, that's a great one | 15:00 |
| cprofitt | though we did not make this one - | 15:00 |
| cprofitt | http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=6 | 15:00 |
| cprofitt | it is there | 15:00 |
| cprofitt | we could open it up and advertise it | 15:00 |
| * pleia2 nods | 15:00 | |
| cprofitt | this one too - http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=5 | 15:01 |
| cprofitt | I can also see if any of the Ubuntu Educators would like to assist with making Moodle courses | 15:02 |
| cprofitt | the community is growing slowly... but we are up to 28 members | 15:02 |
| pleia2 | ubuntu educators? | 15:02 |
| pleia2 | it should probably be documented somewhere what all these teams are, I get so confused | 15:04 |
| cprofitt | Ubuntu Educators = people associated with EDU that use Ubuntu | 15:05 |
| cprofitt | there was no forum for them, no project for them, so I decided to create a community | 15:05 |
| cprofitt | and see if it grows | 15:05 |
| AlanBell | any UK based educators might like to pop in to the BETT educational tradeshow next week | 15:57 |
| AlanBell | http://opensourceschools.org.uk/bett-open-source-caf.html-0 | 15:57 |
| AlanBell | I will be there handing out Ubuntu CDs and telling people about open source in education | 15:58 |
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| pleia2 | cjohnston: you're going to hate me | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | I think User Days discussions should happen on the -classroom list :x | 17:14 |
| cprofitt | cjohnston: where are they happening now? | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | -learning | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | I was indecisive about where they belonged | 17:14 |
| pleia2 | so I said "have everyone join -learning!" | 17:14 |
| cjohnston_ | ??? | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | I changed my mind, it really should be on -classroom (at the time I was considering shutting down the -classroom list) | 17:15 |
| cprofitt | pleia2: why one over the other... | 17:15 |
| cjohnston_ | I'm lost. All I got was two pings | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | cjohnston_: want me to paste to you? | 17:15 |
| cprofitt | I almost think it should go on three lists -- BT, Learning, Classroom | 17:15 |
| cjohnston_ | Please. I can't scroll up | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | done | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: yeah, this is what I'm so torn about | 17:16 |
| cprofitt | cjohnston: what client are you using? | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | my vision for UCLP was to be an umbrella team that would include -classroom and BTEFG | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | I kinda took that a bit further pulling all -classroom stuff here | 17:17 |
| cjohnston_ | I'm not at home. I'm on a cell | 17:17 |
| cprofitt | k | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | and UCLP really is for course development | 17:17 |
| * cprofitt nods | 17:17 | |
| cjohnston_ | When I get home I can scroll up | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | anyway, the holidays helped me sort out my thoughts on the matter | 17:17 |
| cprofitt | as the umbrella though -- itis the one place that folks of either team would be on a list right? | 17:17 |
| cjohnston_ | pleia2: So far nothing has gone out on a mailing list | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: yeah, I think so | 17:18 |
| cprofitt | I guess that would push me toward using the UCLP mailing list | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | cjohnston_: yeah, but we told people to sign up for -learning :) now I feel bad to say "oh, and sign up for -classroom too" | 17:18 |
| cprofitt | since it is an umbrella | 17:18 |
| cprofitt | though to be honest -- it might be best to cross-post to the mailing lists involved with each project | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I agree | 17:19 |
| cjohnston_ | I'll say it. But I'll blame u | 17:19 |
| cjohnston_ | ;-) | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | so x-post, maybe nudge people to follow-up on -classroom since that's where the classroom team core is | 17:19 |
| cprofitt | is classroom the 'core' team to the effort? | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah, for all the irc classes | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | like User Days | 17:20 |
| cprofitt | k | 17:21 |
| cprofitt | then yes... x-post and have follow-ups go to classroom | 17:21 |
| cjohnston_ | pleia2: we can talk more when I get home. I've g2g | 17:21 |
| cprofitt | is there a way to 'force' the reply to? | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: not force, but you can set one | 17:22 |
| cprofitt | well... make default? | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | yeah, by setting a reply-to in the header | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | that should work then | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | the mailing list might not overwrite that | 17:23 |
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| stackedagainst | pleia2: ping? | 22:13 |
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