[01:12] <doctormo> I'm very close to a release of groundcontrol nigel_nb, you can get the release and the deb from a ppa on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~doctormo
[01:12] <nigel_nb> awesome doctormo :)
[09:54] <gogonez> d
[14:26] <pleia2> cprofitt: you about?
[14:26] <mhall119|work> cprofitt is in #ubuntu-locoteams
[14:27] <pleia2> I am thinking we should move forward with course development in moodle
[14:27] <pleia2> we can come back to the bzr+asciidoc thing, there is always possibility for backporting
[14:27]  * mhall119|work wishes he had more time to be involved in ubuntu-learning
[14:30] <cprofitt> pleia2:
[14:30] <cprofitt> I am here -- what is up with bzr+asciidoc?
[14:30] <pleia2> nigel is still working on documenting it
[14:31] <pleia2> then it probably needs more review...
[14:31] <cprofitt> well... it will need more review after we use it the first time with Moodle...
[14:31] <pleia2> yeah
[14:32] <cprofitt> do you have a partial course done in asciidoc -- on asciidoc itself...
[14:32] <pleia2> so I think moving forward on other avenues is good instead of being stuck here
[14:32] <cprofitt> I could at least start converting it.
[14:32] <cprofitt> or are we looking to do other courses w/ Moodle?
[14:32] <pleia2> for asciidoc itself I think we're just including a few basic examples in nigel's course and then linking to existing resources for more complicated things that people may want sometimes
[14:32] <pleia2> we want to do all courses in moodle and asciidoc :)
[14:33] <pleia2> we can start with moodle and backport to asciidoc once we get that workflow sorted
[14:35] <cprofitt> just so I am clear -- is there an asciidoc course on asciidoc that I can convert to Moodle?
[14:36] <pleia2> no, it's part of nigel's course that he's still working on
[14:37] <cprofitt> ok -- so I should create a course in Moodle on some other subject
[14:45] <pleia2> yeah, start developing in moodle :)
[14:45] <nigel_nb> moodle? what? where? who?
[14:45] <pleia2> I am going to chug away at some courses in open office, I just want to get material out there so it stops looking like we're a dead project that get stuck and stalled every 5 seconds
[14:46] <pleia2> nigel_nb: we're moving forward with course development on other platforms, we've been stuck on bzr+asciidoc for months
[14:46] <nigel_nb> pleia2: I agree
[14:46] <pleia2> we'll use the bzr+asciidoc workflow eventually, but for now we need some content :)
[14:46] <pleia2> plus it'll be less pressure on you ;)
[14:47] <nigel_nb> I'd rather have everyone write in open office and someone sit and convert (I dont mind the conversion)
[14:48] <pleia2> me too (I don't mind conversion either, it's relaxing work!)
[14:48] <nigel_nb> then I say go for it
[14:48] <nigel_nb> did u see the ubuntu manual project?
[14:49] <nigel_nb> they are going to bring out a new version every cycle starting from lucid
[14:50] <pleia2> ubuntu manual project?
[14:51] <nigel_nb> yeah or something like that
[14:51] <pleia2> I don't think so, link?
[14:51] <nigel_nb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual
[14:51] <nigel_nb> now I think they have a channel and stuff
[14:55] <pleia2> oh boy
[14:55] <pleia2> there are too many of these projects floating around :)
[14:56] <nigel_nb> they have slightly different goals from us
[14:56] <nigel_nb> but I'm loving it ;)
[14:57] <cprofitt> Yeah -- manuals can be the source of training, but they are not courses or training
[14:57] <cprofitt> they would be a good team to work with when we need documentation for courses though
[14:57] <pleia2> yeah
[14:58] <nigel_nb> exactly my point
[14:59] <nigel_nb> with lucid, we are going to cross a certain threshold I'm sure
[14:59] <cprofitt> pleia2: this course look like a good one to finish up - http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=8
[15:00] <pleia2> cprofitt: yeah, that's a great one
[15:00] <cprofitt> though we did not make this one -
[15:00] <cprofitt> http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=6
[15:00] <cprofitt> it is there
[15:00] <cprofitt> we could open it up and advertise it
[15:00]  * pleia2 nods
[15:01] <cprofitt> this one too - http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=5
[15:02] <cprofitt> I can also see if any of the Ubuntu Educators would like to assist with making Moodle courses
[15:02] <cprofitt> the community is growing slowly... but we are up to 28 members
[15:02] <pleia2> ubuntu educators?
[15:04] <pleia2> it should probably be documented somewhere what all these teams are, I get so confused
[15:05] <cprofitt> Ubuntu Educators = people associated with EDU that use Ubuntu
[15:05] <cprofitt> there was no forum for them, no project for them, so I decided to create a community
[15:05] <cprofitt> and see if it grows
[15:57] <AlanBell> any UK based educators might like to pop in to the BETT educational tradeshow next week
[15:57] <AlanBell> http://opensourceschools.org.uk/bett-open-source-caf.html-0
[15:58] <AlanBell> I will be there handing out Ubuntu CDs and telling people about open source in education
[17:13] <pleia2> cjohnston: you're going to hate me
[17:14] <pleia2> I think User Days discussions should happen on the -classroom list :x
[17:14] <cprofitt> cjohnston: where are they happening now?
[17:14] <pleia2> -learning
[17:14] <pleia2> I was indecisive about where they belonged
[17:14] <pleia2> so I said "have everyone join -learning!"
[17:15] <cjohnston_> ???
[17:15] <pleia2> I changed my mind, it really should be on -classroom (at the time I was considering shutting down the -classroom list)
[17:15] <cprofitt> pleia2: why one over the other...
[17:15] <cjohnston_> I'm lost. All I got was two pings
[17:15] <pleia2> cjohnston_: want me to paste to you?
[17:15] <cprofitt> I almost think it should go on three lists -- BT, Learning, Classroom
[17:16] <cjohnston_> Please. I can't scroll up
[17:16] <pleia2> done
[17:16] <pleia2> cprofitt: yeah, this is what I'm so torn about
[17:16] <cprofitt> cjohnston: what client are you using?
[17:16] <pleia2> my vision for UCLP was to be an umbrella team that would include -classroom and BTEFG
[17:17] <pleia2> I kinda took that a bit further pulling all -classroom stuff here
[17:17] <cjohnston_> I'm not at home. I'm on a cell
[17:17] <cprofitt> k
[17:17] <pleia2> and UCLP really is for course development
[17:17]  * cprofitt nods
[17:17] <cjohnston_> When I get home I can scroll up
[17:17] <pleia2> anyway, the holidays helped me sort out my thoughts on the matter
[17:17] <cprofitt> as the umbrella though -- itis the one place that folks of either team would be on a list right?
[17:18] <cjohnston_> pleia2: So far nothing has gone out on a mailing list
[17:18] <pleia2> cprofitt: yeah, I think so
[17:18] <cprofitt> I guess that would push me toward using the UCLP mailing list
[17:18] <pleia2> cjohnston_: yeah, but we told people to sign up for -learning :) now I feel bad to say "oh, and sign up for -classroom too"
[17:18] <cprofitt> since it is an umbrella
[17:19] <cprofitt> though to be honest -- it might be best to cross-post to the mailing lists involved with each project
[17:19] <pleia2> yeah, I agree
[17:19] <cjohnston_> I'll say it. But I'll blame u
[17:19] <cjohnston_> ;-)
[17:19] <pleia2> so x-post, maybe nudge people to follow-up on -classroom since that's where the classroom team core is
[17:19] <cprofitt> is classroom the 'core' team to the effort?
[17:20] <pleia2> yeah, for all the irc classes
[17:20] <pleia2> like User Days
[17:21] <cprofitt> k
[17:21] <cprofitt> then yes... x-post and have follow-ups go to classroom
[17:21] <cjohnston_> pleia2: we can talk more when I get home. I've g2g
[17:21] <cprofitt> is there a way to 'force' the reply to?
[17:22] <pleia2> cprofitt: not force, but you can set one
[17:22] <cprofitt> well... make default?
[17:23] <pleia2> yeah, by setting a reply-to in the header
[17:23] <cprofitt> that should work then
[17:23] <pleia2> the mailing list might not overwrite that
[22:13] <stackedagainst> pleia2: ping?