[00:00] <davidubuntu> minimec: im not sure if I explained it correctly, its the very large menu with large icons that takes up the entire desktop. I wonder if this has anything to do with the netbook? i am able to right click on other things
[00:00] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: assuming the livecd uses casper which most of em do
[00:00] <adz> mkanyicy: know any utilities to make dumps from myd files
[00:00] <LA-Snow> how do i find the repository for Transmission?  i'm trying to add it to Synaptic
[00:00] <acicula> done365: how much memory do you have now
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> !info transmission
[00:00] <acicula> done365: or what hardware in general
[00:00] <mkanyicy> adz, what do you want to do?
[00:00] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: its LFS livecd, would you know?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> LA-Snow:  its in the 'universe' repository
[00:01] <jaunt> i tried downloading virtual box. it is in my download list for firefox, but i can't figure out how to use it.
[00:01] <minimec> davidubuntu: What kind of ubuntu did you install. Some netbook versoin?
[00:01] <adz> mkanyicy: restore them someplace temporarily
[00:01] <jaunt> i use ubuntu 9.04
[00:01] <acicula> jaunt: use the package manager that comes with ubuntu
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> jaunt:   read the virtialbox wiki page/guide posted earlier?
[00:01] <SteveIgnorant> firefly2442: know the repository off hand?
[00:01] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: well, it isn't gonna hurt to try
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | jaunt
[00:01] <LA-Snow> Dr_Willis: i've seen that repository doesn't update it fast enough.  v 1.76 is already out but the repository lists 1.75
[00:01] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: kk =D
[00:01] <mkanyicy> adz, what for?
[00:01] <firefly2442> SteveIgnorant, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> LA-Snow:  that wasent what you ashed however.. :)  there might be newer PPA repos for newer versions.
[00:02] <adz> mkanyicy: make sure that I have absolutely everything intact before I wipe main server
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> LA-Snow:  ubuntu dosent really do 'always having the latest version' sort of things. :)
[00:02] <mkanyicy> adz, of course you have everything if you have that file]
[00:02] <LA-Snow> Dr_Willis: right.  hence why i want to add the transmission repository
[00:02] <faileas> LA-Snow: does the repo have a site?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> LA-Snow:  in theory the default repos will NEVER update it..    add/check for PPA repos of the transmission homepage for other repos
[00:02] <LizardK|ng> why is it so difficult to get a hypervisor working in Ubuntu?  i couldn't make sense of what xen needed, so i decided to try KVM but i can;t find kvm.ko anywhere!
[00:03] <mkanyicy> adz, if you don't believe that install mysql in the livecd session now
[00:03] <faileas> (or is there actually a repo?)
[00:03] <firefly2442> SteveIgnorant, I think unetbootin is also in the Ubuntu repo but it may be an older version
[00:03] <LA-Snow> cool.  i'll look on the site
[00:03] <pilif12p> Which option do i use to dual boot?
[00:03] <pilif12p> Guided- Resize
[00:03] <davidubuntu> minimec: i installed the latest regular version of ubuntu last night
[00:03] <mkanyicy> adz, and extract that tar and put the files under /var/lib/mysql
[00:04] <adz> mkanyicy: on the new server? because I remember something from a long time ago about that not working directly
[00:04] <pilif12p> Guided- Use entire disk
[00:04] <pilif12p> Guided- Use entire disk and setup LVM
[00:04] <pilif12p> Guided- Use entire disk and setup encrypted LVM
[00:04] <done365> acicula: AMD 64 3500. 512 mem (but Karmic says 429.9, or 449) Linux 2.6.31-16 generic, dvdr/rw, dvd, 250 western digital hd
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  any of them can proberly be used.. it depends on your needs.
[00:04] <SteveIgnorant> firefly2442: i had no luck finding it in the repo
[00:04] <pilif12p> Dr_Willis: i want to dualboot
[00:04] <mkanyicy> adz, the MOST IMPORTANT thing you have to keep in mind is that the ownership and permissions of the mysql files need to be exactly like that, if they change mysql can ignore them
[00:04] <minimec> davidubuntu: A default Ubuntu karmic install would give you that desktop http://download.freenet.de/img/softwareimages/10541/screen_640x480_ubuntu.jpg.jpg
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  you need to reeize your windows partition   - use the first one..  ANY OF THEM (almost) can be set to use dual boot...
[00:05] <adz> mkanyicy: ok I will give it a shot...
[00:05] <acicula> done365: probably because of a videocard thats integrated on the motherboard using some of the main memory?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  think about what they are saying.. One will ask to use all the disk.. so that would remove windows.. so you dont want that one logically. :)
[00:05] <pilif12p> Dr_Willis: who said anything about Windows?
[00:05] <acicula> done365: but yeah its kind of tight on memory even for ubuntu , you could try a lighter environment with xubuntu?
[00:05] <mkanyicy> adz, if encountering probs feel free to ask me, i've been fiddling with that for years
[00:05] <pilif12p> I'm using Ubuntu desktop and server
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  what are you dual booting then? you havent given us any real details .. please do so.
[00:06] <pilif12p> I just said ;)
[00:06] <pilif12p> Server and Desktop
[00:06] <minimec> davidubuntu: That is the netbook remix default desktop, I guess... http://mgsimon.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/UbuntuKarmicKoalaNetbookRemixStartbildschirm.png
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  why do you want to do that?  you got your partitions set up allready? or what.
[00:06] <pilif12p> no, i don't
[00:06] <pilif12p> I want desktop so that i can use it still
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  then you need to do some resizeing then it seems...
[00:06] <pilif12p> ok
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  you can install the desktop pacakges on the server install ifyou wanted tio
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  if thats the only reason you are wantign to do a desktop install...
[00:07] <mkanyicy> pilif12p, dualbooting is a bad idea for you because the server will be down when using desktop
[00:07] <pilif12p> nope
[00:07] <pilif12p> i've got that covered ;)
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> I really dont see much point in dualbooting server and desktop..
[00:07] <davidubuntu> minimec: the second screenshot is the version im using, and that menu you see on the desktop is the one im trying to remove
[00:08] <mkanyicy> pilif12p, how?
[00:08] <Burzmali> Anyone up for forming a posse to round up to folks responsible for breaking the rt2800usb driver on the kernel, and um... poking them with stick until they fix it?
[00:08] <pilif12p> I've been using Desktop as server
[00:08] <mkanyicy> pilif12p, yes do that
[00:08] <mkanyicy> pilif12p, then what is this silly question about dualboot?
[00:08] <pilif12p> I don't know?
[00:08] <done365> acicula: agreed, it's little space, but It was plenty for Jaunty. point taken on vid, I'm used to using a card, but had trouble so took it out. synopsis: best solution- stop being cheap and spring for more mem?
[00:08] <skorasaurus> !mount
[00:08] <skorasaurus> !fstab
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> pilif12p:  we sure dont know either.. good luck./
[00:08] <mkanyicy> !laugh
[00:09] <LizardK|ng> !kvm
[00:09] <mkanyicy> what? ubottu cannot laugh?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> !love
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> Someone removed the Love factoid!
[00:09] <maco> Dr_Willis: its not available in this channel but does still exist
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> maco:  heh ->  ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about love
[00:10] <acicula> done365: depends, is it an am2/ddr2 board, if not its probably not worth spending to much money on as old ddr mem is relatively expensive now
[00:10] <minimec> davidubuntu: I cannot help you with Ubuntu netbook remix, sorry.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> pooor little bot.
[00:10] <mkanyicy> pilif12p, anyway did you find a way to resolve your problem?
[00:10] <pilif12p> yah
[00:10] <pilif12p> thanks
[00:10] <mkanyicy> !yay | pilif12p
[00:10] <maco> Dr_Willis: try in #ubuntu-offtopic, afaik it only exists there
[00:10] <acicula> done365: some more 512mb will definitly help, ubuntu loves more mem more then a faster proc.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> maco:  heh.  wonder why it dident just pm me it then. :) oh well..  The factoids i try to add.. never get added
[00:11] <acicula> done365: you could check the bios and see if you can reduce the amount of mem alotted to the video card a bit , for normal stuff you just need 16Mb tops i think
[00:11] <davidubuntu> minimec: thanks for trying my friend :)
[00:11] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: unetbootin said it installed fine (and it was very easy to use) ill let you know the results on my netbook in a sec if youre interested
[00:11] <minimec> davidubuntu: np
[00:11] <Tayl> How do I run 'et-linux-2.55.x86.run'?
[00:12] <acicula> Tayl: chmod +x and then add a ./before the name
[00:12] <LizardK|ng> bah, i'm just going to boot the xen liveCD and see what happens
[00:12] <done365> acicula: ddr2, will leave at least 32 for the vid, just cause. but ddr2 is pretty cheap just not as cheap as me.:-D
[00:12] <mkanyicy> acicula, the +x it adds permissions to who?
[00:12] <acicula> mkanyicy: err by default for everyone
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> !chmod | mkanyicy
[00:13] <mzawieska> jrib, you there? i have question when u type su and it ask u for password what is it. I forgot doin this for my brother as well
[00:13] <computa_mike> Guys - I have a question.  If I have a suggestion for the ubuntu project -is that best expressed as a Blueprint?
[00:13] <acicula> chmod +x <thefile>
[00:13] <mkanyicy> acicula, ok
[00:13] <LJR> mzawieska, It puts you into superuser mode.
[00:13] <acicula> done365: well ddr2 is about as dirt cheap as it can get
[00:13] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: it'll be useful to know if it works, so yeah
[00:13] <faileas> and yeah unetbootin is easy to use, and pretty versatile ;)
[00:13] <LJR> mzawieska, It's better to use sudo or gksudo for individual sessions.
[00:13] <Tayl> acicula: It says no file or directory? =s
[00:14] <Tayl> But I'm in the folder I downloaded it to.
[00:14] <done365> acicula: Thanks for the chat and the help
[00:14] <LJR> acicula, have you cd'ed to the proper directory?
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[00:14] <acicula> once its executable you have to use ./filename
[00:15] <WP1> Ubuntu 9.10 running in parallels on Mac, can I install  Virtualbox OSE in the Ubuntu Virtual machine?
[00:15] <acicula> ./ tells it to look in your current directory, as by default it only looks in PATH, (echo $PATH)
[00:15] <viliny> Hello!
[00:15] <LJR> !hi | viliny
[00:15] <acicula> done365: 2x1gb ddr2 does less then 20 euros with vat here
[00:15] <yassine> how can i get the kernel module loop-aes installes using modules-assistant does not help since building the module fails?
[00:15] <Tayl> I type: chmod +x et-linux-2.55.x86.run and get no feedback but a new terminal line to type in so I assume that worked fine?
[00:15] <acicula> done365: if you are on the other side of the pond its prolly the same in usd
[00:16] <LJR> Tayl, run ls in the working directory to ensure the file is now executable. (green)
[00:16] <acicula> Tayl: no news = good news in unix
[00:16] <viliny> Anyone able to help me with a problem im having with my Ubuntu karmic koala paired with a windows 7 machine -> Windows fails to add the printer that the ubuntu machine is sharing and this seems to be a somewhat known error and is specific to karmic koala and 64 bits windowses of at least vista and 7... thought someone here might have a clue?
[00:16] <LJR> acicula, don't mean to keep stepping on your toes. =P
[00:17] <Tayl> LJR, acicula: Thank you both for the help!
[00:17] <Tayl> Much appreciated.
[00:17] <rami_> Hello guys, I am running Karmic (upgraded from Jaunty) and I can't boot. I get "Kernel Panic, Not syncing: no init found. try passint init option to kernel" note that I upgraded grub to grub2 and everything was fine, and I booted a couple of times. But then I played around with Startupmanager and increased the resolution. That is the only "hardcore" tweaking I did before this error. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
[00:17] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: mmm yes and no. says certain hard drive isnt detected
[00:17] <faileas> hmm, that would be odd, but not unexpected
[00:17] <viliny> rami_: wild shot in the dark, unsupported resolution?
[00:18] <R4v> Hey, could anyone help me out?
[00:18] <LJR> !ask | r4v
[00:18] <rami_> viliny, now we are getting somewhere! I played around with StartUpManager and played with the resolution
[00:18] <FeasibilityStudy> I keep getting a persisten crash on Kubuntu with Dolphin file manager.  The backtrace is not useful, but I cannot find a debug package to install.  Can anyone tell me which dbg package I need for /lib/libdbus-1.so.3?
[00:19] <R4v> I was thinking of making a custom LiveCD for certain purposes but i love #crunchbang, so i was wondering if there was a way i could somehow modify what tools are installed on live CD when i boot it.   crunchbang is a ubuntu based distro btw.
[00:19] <rami_> viliny, didn't expect that resolution would cause this. I would revert back, but I just installed grub2 and i am kinda fuzzy on its ins and outs
[00:19] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: its a fairly new netbook. UNR couldnt get the wireless working but everything else was fine.
[00:19] <acicula> rami_: means it cant get to the hard drive, so more likely the boot system got nuked somehow or the disk is giving up
[00:19] <adz> md5kanyicy: http://pastebin.com/mc5676d5
[00:19] <LJR> R4v, you need to ask #crunchbang. This is the ubuntu support channel.
[00:19] <VickKleen> does anyone know if xubuntu 9.10 should be able to run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure X? No around in #xubuntu at the moment
[00:19] <viliny> yeah, im really not that advanced in those kinds of problems, just kinda pitching you stuff so you might figure it out yourself :)
[00:19] <R4v> LJR, it's ubuntu based.
[00:19] <adz> mkanyicy: http://pastebin.com/mc5676d5
[00:19] <R4v> as i said at the end.
[00:20] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: eh. chances are it has maybe a ralink chipset, and its a config issue
[00:20] <acicula> rami_: did you try the recovery mode?
[00:20] <LJR> We also get Debian users asking for help. I've used debian for a long time. Doesn't matter - this is Ubuntu. No Debian, not Crunchbang.
[00:20] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: seeing as this seems not to be working so well, what would you suggest for a quick, stable os? dont need gui
[00:20] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: tried looking up what the chipset is?
[00:20] <adz> mkanyicy: that's what I got when start mysqld again
[00:20] <LJR> Linux Mint is Ubuntu based as well - doesn't matter.
[00:20] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: x86?
[00:20] <rami_> acicula, the hard drive is intact, just tried it on livecd. recovery mode is a no go, same error
[00:20] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: well, i run ubuntu, with a few mods...
[00:20] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: no, i mean the wireless
[00:20] <R4v> SteveIgnorant, a crass fan i see. =]
[00:20] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: excuse me, thats the architecture. i dont remember. i worked on it a while ago
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | R4v
[00:21] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: pastebin your lshw output
[00:21] <SteveIgnorant> R4v: youre the only person to ever notice this! everyone thinks my name is steve hahaha
[00:21] <pilif12p> !dual boot > pilif12p
[00:21] <pilif12p> thanks
[00:21] <mkanyicy> adz, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:21] <adz> 9.10
[00:21] <R4v> Heh.
[00:21] <R4v> No one gets my name either...
[00:21] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: that would take time, my netbook is doing some other processes right now and id have to find a usb cord
[00:21] <faileas> lol
[00:21] <acicula> rami_: i'm not really up to speed on fixing init beyond reinstalling, prolly could try to forcebly reinstall the init related packages
[00:21] <mkanyicy> adz, "sudo service mysql restart"
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> No one ever guesses my name either...
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:21] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: it dosen't have built in wireless?
[00:22] <r4v4ch01> SteveIgnorant, this one that is
[00:22] <rami_> acicula, how would I go about that?
[00:22] <Yonderboy> And no one EVER gets this one.
[00:22] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: do you know which of these would better suit me? gentoo, arch, crux, slackware, bsd? --- it does have built in. im not the only one with the dilemma
[00:22] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: its a fairly light process, and rather than throwing distros till it sticks, it'll make sense to make what you have work
[00:22] <Yonderboy> Not enough sci-fi fans in the linux world. =[
[00:22] <mkanyicy> adz, did you put your files in /var/lib/mysql ?
[00:22] <adz> mkanyicy: fail
[00:23] <adz> mkanyicy: yeah
[00:23] <adz> all of them
[00:23] <ionut> what's the command to se all the irc's ?
[00:23] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: i love ubuntu, but im trying to get a more advanced os to learn more about how linux works
[00:23] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: seriously? i've only run vector and ubuntu
[00:23] <adz> just replaced everything in it
[00:23] <acicula> rami_: dunno, id fiddle with dpkg-reconfigure or apt-get install --reinstal, but as i said i dont know which package to try
[00:23] <acicula> do you have a /bin/init ?
[00:23] <mkanyicy> how did you do that, adz ?
[00:23] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: I've learnt a lot by stepping outside the 'basic' ubuntu config.
[00:23] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: my netbook is sorta like my experimenting comp lol
[00:24] <bastid_raZor> http://linuxcommand.org/  SteveIgnorant this is a good site to check out.
[00:24] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: care to elaborate?
[00:24] <adz> mkanyicy: fresh install of mysql, went into /var/lib/mysql, deleted everything. then copeied over contents of tar and then started msysqld
[00:24] <adz> *mysqld
[00:24] <rami_> acicula, thanks man Ill look into it
[00:24] <SteveIgnorant> r4v4ch01 excume me?
[00:24] <SteveIgnorant> R4v: whered ya go haha
[00:24] <mkanyicy> adz, you were suppose to bring the server down first
[00:24] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: well, for example, i started compiling my own apps, or built systems with specific requirements
[00:24] <viliny> Anyone got experience in using ubuntu as a print server for windows machines?
[00:24] <iKernel> ok
[00:25] <faileas> basically dive into the arcane stuff, while using ubuntu as a platform for it?
[00:25] <mkanyicy> adz, anyway, did you preserve the file ownership and permissions as I told you?
[00:25] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: sounds interesting. so its all on preference in the end?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> viliny:  configure printer in ubuntu..  install samba (perhaps optional)  - use windows dialogs to connect to the shared printer...
[00:25] <adz> mkanyicy: erm....how exactly?
[00:25] <iKernel> I installed the fglrx driver from the ATi website. since i was having problems with it, I uninstalled it using the instructions from the manual from the website, which was to run the fglrx-uinstall.sh script
[00:25] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: yeah. at some point, what distro you use dosen't matter as much
[00:25] <ionut> what's the command to se all the irc's  around here
[00:25] <rattatoue> Is there a program with a gui that can help me setup my asoundrc file?
[00:25] <souhail> hi all
[00:26] <R4v> SteveIgnorant, just saying no one ever gets my names, ravachol (famous french anarchist) or Yonderboy (Character from Gibsons Neuromancer).
[00:26] <faileas> i prefer debian based distros cause it has easy package management
[00:26] <Zer> Howdy. I was looking at Ubuntu's /etc/init (Upstart), and it seems there is 'expect fork' which will track the first fork, and then without that it'll just treat it like a normal executable, but...
[00:26] <mkanyicy> adz, ok do it like this,
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  if you mean 'channel names' theres the /list command
[00:26] <Zer> what if you have a server where the command line just starts/stops it, and the process itself is not related (I presume it just executes instead of forks). Is there any way to do this form with Upstart? (Nginx being what I am looking at, it starts it, and also has stop signals)
[00:26] <faileas> ionut: you don't want to use the list channel command here ;p
[00:26] <ionut> thx
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> ionut:  but theres proberly 10000+ channels
[00:26] <ionut> i want a hack channel
[00:26] <SteveIgnorant> R4v: cant say i know them hahha
[00:26] <mkanyicy> adz, "sudo service mysql stop"
[00:26] <R4v> Heh
[00:26] <adz> ok
[00:26] <R4v> Thought there would be more scifi fans in the geek world.
[00:26] <mkanyicy> adz, after that "sudo rm -rfv /var/lib/mysql/*"
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> R4v:  thers to much scifi .
[00:27] <iKernel> after doing that, and reinstalling the drivers from the ubuntu repos, something tells me that the driver from AMD is still in use... well no. scratch that. I open up Hardware Drivers gui and it tells me that the driver for ubuntu is in use
[00:27] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: actually, sometimes i think i've outgrown this place. i never really seem to get answers to my questions. its frustrating sometimes ;p
[00:27] <adz> ok
[00:27] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: mmm i see. trying to find the most configurable one. want to start of small and add as i move on
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> R4v:  i imagine i can think of obscure scifi referance names also. :)
[00:27] <souhail> any body know how to make my laptop shut down automatically after 2hours ? i'm using ubuntu 9.10
[00:27] <R4v> Dr_Willis, but any scifi fan should have read neuromancer.
[00:27] <R4v> It's hardly obscure
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> R4v:  nope.. not really.
[00:27] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: mmm, forums may better suit you? even if theyre delayed
[00:27] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: hmm, how small?
[00:27] <iKernel> except I have this annoying AMD Testing use only Unsupported hardware hanging around the bottom right of my screen
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> R4v:  ive never bothered to read it..
[00:27] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: superuser has been a godsend, mostly
[00:27] <VCoolio> souhail: the shutdown command has a time switch
[00:27] <R4v> Dr_Willis, it won the the Nebula Award, the Philip K. Dick Award, and the Hugo Award.
[00:27] <mkanyicy> adz, and now "rmdir /var/lib/mysql"
[00:28] <rattatoue> How would I setup my asoundrc where my hw:0:0 would be the default playback, my default capture is hw:1:0 and then I need hw:1:0 to be listed as a second card in it so I can use it with wine
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> R4v:  so?
[00:28] <acicula> faileas: well there is an offtopic channel
[00:28] <adz> done
[00:28] <viliny> Dr_Willis: yes, but i have a problem in all of that...
[00:28]  * Dr_Willis goes back to reading  'how to win friends and influence people'
[00:28] <mkanyicy> adz, and now "sudo tar -xpvf ~/Desktop/mysql_backup.tar -C /var/lib"
[00:28] <souhail> VVoolio still cant understand how to make that happen
[00:28] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: utterly basic, i want to add all the programs only i want
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> viliny:  state the actual problem then you are having to the channel
[00:28] <faileas> acicula: well, i doubt i'll get help on an offtopic channel. I ended up looking up, compiling and troubleshooting an app that did what i needed, on my own
[00:29] <adz> done
[00:29] <souhail> sorry VCoolio
[00:29] <SteveIgnorant> SteveIgnorant: not a distro with 20 text editors, 30 web browsers, etc.
[00:29] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: how about starting with a cli only ubuntu install?
[00:29] <mkanyicy> adz, finally "sudo service mysql start"
[00:29] <SteveIgnorant> SteveIgnorant: cli?
[00:29] <VCoolio> souhail: sudo shutdown -h +m120      something like that
 SteveIgnorant: not a distro with 20 text editors, 30 web browsers, etc.  <--- most of them. :p
[00:29] <rattatoue> How would I setup my asoundrc where my hw:0:0 would be the default playback, my default capture is hw:1:0 and then I need hw:1:0 to be listed as a second card in it so I can use it with wine?
[00:29] <souhail> ok i will ckeck it out
[00:29] <viliny> Dr_Willis: did that earlier, here i go again: x64 versions of vista and windows 7 fail to add ubuntu karmic koala shared printers for some reason. Anyone got any experience in overcoming this?
[00:29] <R4v> I'm making my own live CD to get rid of all the shite i don't need.
[00:29] <SteveIgnorant> R4v: hahh i know... im trying to find one very basic
[00:29] <mkanyicy> adz, ?
[00:30] <Tayl> I'm trying to run libgtk1.2_1.2.10-18.1build2_i386.deb but get the message: dependency is not satisfiable' a quarter of the way through installing it. Any suggestions?
[00:30] <faileas> SteveIgnorant:yeah! and stop talking to yourself XD http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal i;d start here
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> viliny:  they can connect to the normal shares on the machine however?
[00:30] <adz> mkanyicy: I see a problem. It tarred the entire path
[00:30] <viliny> Dr_Willis: yes, it's my fileserver as well
[00:30] <R4v> SteveIgnorant, i love crunchbang /join #crunchbang
[00:30] <VCoolio> souhail: in a terminal, run "shutdown --help", there are more options
[00:30] <minimec> davidubuntu: I think that is the solution to your problem. I found it accidently... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR#Hints%20&%20Misc.
[00:31] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: there's a few things i did differently though - i use lostirc, ayttm (from git) for IM, and swiftfox, since its lower prerequisites than firefox
[00:31] <mkanyicy> adz, can you pastebin the output of "sudo ls -lh /var/lib/mysql" ?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> viliny:  ive no personal experience with 64bit windows so cant help. and Win7 dident even have printer drivers for my 14+ yr old printer any more.. :)
[00:31] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: SORRY hahaha i wasnt paying attention xD
[00:31] <viliny> Dr_Willis:  i tried finding help on the matter online first and came to the conclusion that it's a karmic koala problem when paired with windows 64 versions... and that nobody really had any good ideas on the threads i found.
[00:31] <acicula> Tayl: the gtk from the version to old?
[00:31] <acicula> from the repository
[00:31] <adz> mkanyicy: nothing there because root of the tar was /media
[00:31] <arghh2d2> R4v: antix is pretty good, lots of basic minimalist apps
[00:31] <Tayl> Apparently I need to install that for ET to work?
[00:31] <SteveIgnorant> R4v: googling it right now
[00:31] <R4v> Join the channel. :p
[00:31] <Tayl> acicula: downloaded it from the recommended website on the forum too.
[00:31] <acicula> tayl apt-caches search libgtk
[00:31] <R4v> And i would rather make my own. =]
[00:32] <acicula> apt-cache
[00:32] <mkanyicy> adz, can you pastebin the output of "sudo ls -lh /var/lib/media" ?
[00:32] <xtjacob> does anyone know how to get a uvcvideo webcam working?
[00:33] <pjotter> hello. I've got a quick question about wacom tablets in ubuntu. Does anybody here work with wacom and the gimp?
[00:34] <adz> mkanyicy: bcf.... with owner root and permissions drwxr-xr-x
[00:34] <mkanyicy> adz, ?
[00:34] <Tayl> acicula: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libgtk1.2 - Grabbed it from there via the link at the bottom but it just won't run?
[00:34] <adz> mkanyicy: sorry I am kinda working across computers, so pastebinning is kinda weird
[00:34] <Tayl> acicula: Not really sure what to do with the file once I've downloaded it (a bit of a beginner, I am).
[00:34] <adz> (have to cp the url by hand)
[00:35] <acicula> tayl dpkg -i or just open it via nautiulus
[00:35] <acicula> Tayl: pretty sure apt-get install libgtk will give you a version that works though
[00:35] <gatinho> oi
[00:35] <jMyles> I used to be able to share terminal screens by simple having one user SSH into a computer and type "screen" and then the other user type "screen -x".  This no longer seems to work (as of Karmic?).  Any ideas why?
[00:35] <adz> mkanyicy: basically it copied the whole path in the tar
[00:35] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: when referring to an os, what does scalability represent?
[00:35] <mkanyicy> adz, I understand, strange
[00:35] <mkanyicy> adz, do this
[00:35] <adz> mkanyicy: should I just cp the mysql directory (down the path) to /var/lib?
[00:36] <mkanyicy> adz, "sudo mysql stop"
[00:36] <mkanyicy> adz, "sudo service mysql stop"
[00:36] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: hmm. whether it'll run on systems of varying power i suppose. usually, its a matter of scaling up
[00:36] <acicula> Tayl: hmm seems karmic only has libgtk2.0-0
[00:36] <faileas> am i getting tested? ;p
[00:36] <adz> ok
[00:36] <mkanyicy> adz, yes that's exactly what we are going to do
[00:36] <faileas> adz: you could ssh to a box, and use 'wall' i suppose
[00:37] <mkanyicy> adz, go to that "/var/lib/media/bcf ... folder using cd
[00:37] <adz> faileas: wall?
[00:37] <faileas> wall is awesome ;)
[00:37] <Tayl> acicula: I need an older version, I think?
[00:37] <SteveIgnorant> faileas: do you know how to get unetbootin to install a series of cds vs 1?
[00:37] <faileas> SteveIgnorant: >_>
[00:37] <faileas> usually you just need cd 1 to insta
[00:37] <faileas> l
[00:37] <mkanyicy> adz, go down until when you type ls there is mysql
[00:37] <faileas> the other cds are packages
[00:38] <Lenin_Cat> When I go to my sound prefences it says "waiting for sound device" and never finishes.
[00:38] <acicula> Tayl: dunno tbh, you could try the older package and see if you can get around the dependency issues
[00:38] <faileas> adz: type in wall. hit enter. type in your message. hit control d to send.
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> jMyles:  ive had byobu work what way. I can just ssh to the server and byobu reconnects and shows the same screen session to each machine
[00:38] <adz> mkanyicy: there
[00:38] <mkanyicy> adz, then do this "sudo rm -rfv /var/lib/mysql && sudo cp -priv mysql /var/lib"
[00:38] <faileas> naturally man wall to understand what wall does
[00:38] <Tayl> acicula: How do I install the older package?
[00:39] <adz> faileas: where does it broadcast to
[00:39] <faileas> adz: all users on the system ;p
[00:39] <adz> mkanyicy: done
[00:39] <acicula> Tayl: double click on the package in the file browser
[00:40] <adz> faileas: what's the point of that again?
[00:40] <mkanyicy> adz, "sudo service mysql start"
[00:40] <faileas> adz: sending messages between systems?
[00:40] <faileas> I used to use it for that. its ugly but it works
[00:40] <fx3> faileas, only between users on the same system
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> wall messages normally are like --> 'System going down in 10 min! start saveing!'
[00:40] <Tayl> acicula: Tried, that's when I get 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib1.2ldbl (>= 1.2.10-18)'
[00:40] <faileas> fx3: yup
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> !info talk
[00:41] <faileas> Dr_Willis: thankfully the one or two people i occationally lend shell accounts too arn't evil enough to do that
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  :)  cat 'dangerwillrobbinson.wav > /dev/dsp
[00:41] <Dr_Willis>  :)
[00:41] <mkanyicy> faileas, what is you problem, again?
[00:42] <mkanyicy> faileas, oh, sound?
[00:42] <faileas> mkanyicy: its solved. I was looking for a lightweight, low prerequisite im client
[00:42] <Lenin_Cat> When I go to my sound prefences it says "waiting for sound device" and never finishes.
[00:42] <mkanyicy> faileas, ok
[00:42] <faileas>  I was looking for a lightweight, low prerequisite im client with a gui i mean
[00:42] <acicula> Tayl: yeah i only see libglib2.0-0
[00:42] <mkanyicy> adz, ?
[00:42] <mkanyicy> adz, are you winning?
[00:42]  * faileas ended up helping AYTTM fix a pretty major bug, and... i'm using that i think
[00:42] <Tayl> acicula: AI, on the forum said "If you check the dependency list of libgtk1.2 on the site, you'll see where to get'em", to a member that was having the same problem.
[00:43] <Tayl> acicula: Not really sure where he's referring too?
[00:43] <faileas> though, gawd. how the hell does someone break msn support and not notice i wonder
[00:43] <rattatoue> can someone help me with asoundrc ?
[00:43] <adz> mkanyicy: seemed to have dumped just fine, gonna just check through the file for some stuffs
[00:43] <acicula> Tayl: to grab the deb of that glib package as well and install it
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> dosent MSN often break MSN support in the clients.. :)
[00:43] <meowkbuntu> hi ubuntu has a skype application but its not in kubuntu ???????
[00:44] <adz> mkanyicy: apparently gedit is not too expedient about loading 113 MB files :P
[00:44] <mazda01> i have a usb stick with karmic on a casper-rw image. how would I mount that in linux to get something out of the image? It's a 4gb image because I plan on using it alot as a portable and persistant ubuntu install
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> meowkbuntu:  they can use the same repos.. install skype on kubuntu if you want it.
[00:44] <Hilikus> how do i downgrade a package?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> !skype | meowkbuntu
[00:44] <faileas> adz: lol. at least it manages to open it
[00:44] <mkanyicy> adz, my english is not good, what does expedient mean?
[00:44] <ChogyDan> meowkbuntu: I actually could not figure out skype for ubuntu just now.
[00:44] <adz> mkanyicy: fast, unless I'm using it wrong
[00:45] <mkanyicy> adz, ok, i thought about the word ingredient
[00:45] <faileas> mazda01: loopmount i suppose https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[00:45] <Hilikus> !downgrade
[00:45] <adz> lol
[00:45] <riddlebox> I just installed a ralink wifi adaptor, where do I get the drivers?
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[00:45] <meowkbuntu> ChogyDan: doewnload the skype .deb package from teh skype website would be teh best
[00:45] <rattatoue> Can someone help me with Asoundrc file? is there a tool for configuring this?
[00:46] <mkanyicy> adz, ok I will leave it up to you to verify that the tar backup has all the files you want
[00:46] <meowkbuntu> Dr_Willis: y is there no link saying go to skype website and get the .deb installer for !skype command ?????
[00:46] <ChogyDan> meowkbuntu: I guess so.  I used to use medibuntu...    but for my purposes, google talk works well too
[00:46] <mkanyicy> adz, ok I will leave it up to you to verify that the tar backup has all mysql databases and tables with the data you want
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> meowkbuntu:  i dont use skype.. and its avail in the medibuntu repos i belive...
[00:46] <mazda01> faileas, yeah, just as I asked I googled it and found to mount the casper-rw file to a -o loop
[00:46] <faileas> riddlebox: ralink should be supported in the kernel.
[00:47] <faileas> ie, it should just work, configured correctly
[00:47] <faileas> mazda01: funny. i looked up the link since i can't remember loopmount commands ;p
[00:47] <rattatoue> In ~/.asoundrc besides the pcm.!default I have that setup, how would I setup another sound card in there on hw:1:0?
[00:48] <adz> mkanyicy: cool. it's still searching for a recent phrase, but by the db size it seems good. Thanks so much for your help!
[00:48] <mazda01> faileas, however im getting this         mount: can't find /media/STORE N GO/casper-rw in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:48] <faileas> hmm
[00:48] <riddlebox> faileas, how do I see if it is listed and is ready?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  spaces in filenames can be a pain. :()
[00:48] <rattatoue> Does noone in here know anything about asoundrc? lol
[00:49] <Hilikus> mazda01: escape the spaces
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> rattatoue:  ive seen docs on it.. buit never needed tomess with it
[00:49] <faileas> mazda01: its the spaces.
[00:49] <mazda01> Hilikus, nevermind, i forgot to tell it where to mount the img stupid me. the spaces were escaped, that's just what the error message showed.
[00:50] <rattatoue> Dr_Willis, well trying to use teamspeak in wine and if I configure my usb in the asound it shows up in wine, but I can't figure out how to get a second card to show up in asound along with the pcm.!default, cause if I set the pcm default to my usb mic it works fine but then all sound comes through it
[00:50] <mazda01> sudo mount -o loop /media/STORE\ N\ GO/casper-rw
[00:50] <mazda01> didn't work but this does obviously.  sudo mount -o loop /media/STORE\ N\ GO/casper-rw /media/casper/
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> rattatoue:  all that was basically gibberish to me. :) err.. there is teamspeak clients native for linux.....
[00:51] <mazda01> faileas, i didn't put spaces in, that was only the error. it was because I didn't have an entry in fstab and I didn't tell it where to mount the image
[00:51] <rattatoue> Dr_Willis, I know that, but the default teamspeak client in linux always act weird with my usb mic making screeching noises or just bad audio
[00:51] <meowkbuntu> URI: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[00:51] <meowkbuntu> Distrubution: jaunty
[00:51] <faileas> ohhhh
[00:51] <meowkbuntu> Components: partner
[00:51] <meowkbuntu> whats the latest info for ubuntu 9.10 please
[00:51] <FloodBot4> meowkbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> meowkbuntu:  Huh?
[00:51] <faileas> mazda01: so you shoulda mkdir /media/casper?
[00:52] <VickKleen> I don't have xorg.conf and  not sure this video is setup ok and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't do anything when I try to run it
[00:52] <riddlebox> faileas, http://pastebin.ca/1739566
[00:52] <rattatoue> Dr_Willis, okay do you know how I can find out where my mic is at like /dev/dsp1 or dsp2 etc?
[00:52] <mazda01> faileas, no, i already did that also. i didn't pout where i wanted it mounted the first time I ran the command.
[00:53] <meowkbuntu> not a flood if its less than 5 lines and only one post every 5 minuts
[00:53] <faileas> riddlebox: what's that a pastebin of?
[00:53] <riddlebox> faileas, dmesg
[00:53] <faileas> riddlebox: could you do one of lshw ?
[00:53]  * faileas is more used to working off that
[00:54] <faileas> though, its obvious something is not quite right >_>
[00:54] <meowkbuntu> Dr_Willis: te3h first 3 lines are for9.04 jaunty for 9.10 i would replace jaunty with ????
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> meowkbuntu:  you meamn whats the animal codename for 9.10? karmic kola?
[00:55] <riddlebox> faileas, http://pastebin.ca/1739569
[00:55] <meowkbuntu> Dr_Willis: do i replace jaunty with karmic kola, karmic-koala, or karmic
[00:55] <meowkbuntu> Dr_Willis: that should be easy for you to answer
[00:55] <faileas> ahh
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> meowkbuntu:  replace it where?  Im not sure what you are even asking about.
[00:56] <faileas> riddlebox: your wireless is broadcom
[00:56] <mkanyicy> meowkbuntu, karmic
[00:56] <keyholder> karmic
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> Jaunty jackalope -> karmic kola -> lucic Lunx -> Masdicating Mastadon
[00:56]  * Dr_Willis finds the animal names somewhat stupid..
[00:57] <faileas> riddlebox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx tried this?
[00:57] <Real_Ubot> Why doesn't it work to add: username ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown till sudoers file to let the user username execute shutdown without using sudo?
[00:57] <riddlebox> faileas, I have a wifi card, but I got this wifi usb stick with a blueray player and was wondering if it would work under linux, since the blueray player uses gnu software
[00:57] <mkanyicy> Dr_Willis, but why the first ubuntu was warty?
[00:57] <meowkbuntu> Dr_Willis: you kinow when installing repos or in fstab. to add package repos WHAT DO I REPLACE JAUNTY WITH
[00:57] <faileas> Dr_Willis: someone on superuser mentioned syphallic spynx
[00:57] <gdb> Real_Ubot: Because you've configured sudo to ask for no password.  ie; the user has to use sudo, they just get to without a password.
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> mkanyicy:  bause the animal names idea is stupid. :)
[00:58] <meowkbuntu> KARMIC, KARMIC KOALA, or KARMIC-KOALA
[00:58] <Shwack> I am ready to scrap Ubuntu
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Real_Ubot:  a 'bad' way to do that is  to set the suid bit on the shutdown binary.. then any user can do shutdown with no sudio
[00:58] <faileas> riddlebox: hmm it dosen't seem to turn up there..
[00:58] <mkanyicy> meowkbuntu, karmic koala
[00:58] <noble> hello people
[00:58] <faileas> mkanyicy: nope, there was breezy as well.
[00:59] <noble> I want to Learn C, what should be the best and effective route
[00:59] <gdb> actually, you can sorta do that by setting suid on shutdown, setting it to mode 750 and adding the users you want to be able to run it to the group that owns the file (change it to "shutdown" create a new group).
[00:59] <mkanyicy> faileas, breezy wasn't the first
[00:59] <faileas> oh, my bad
[00:59] <riddlebox> faileas, yeah I see that, I guess it is a proprietary and there are no drivers for it yet
[00:59] <Shwack> All I wanted to do was change my password....I came in here and asked -  more than 5 people said   "sudo passwd shwack"    i typed it in and everything worked fine.   When I restarted my computer nothing worked.....I get errors after logging in and my dekstop won't show up.   I've tried everything and I've spent more than a few moments in this room earlier trying to figure out my problem.    I need real help...... If you really know what you're doing can yo
[00:59] <noble> I do not want any overnight learning, deep thorough learning is my goal
[00:59] <meowkbuntu> mkanyicy: really finally someone makes sense thanks
[00:59] <mkanyicy> faileas, breezy was the third
[00:59] <faileas> mkanyicy: http://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FDevelopmentCodeNames&ei=WeBDS7LmJMqIkAWmn4C3Ag&usg=AFQjCNFjCvT9JfxNvbrBERNAEM7EIXYcsw&sig2=cdk-uxs3AjZ-ouerm4SI5A
[00:59] <faileas> its explained there :)
[01:00] <faileas> riddlebox: could be.
[01:00] <gdb> Shwack: whomever told you to 'sudo password shwack' to change your own password was ignorant
[01:00] <Shwack> gdb it was more than 5 people in this room
[01:00] <faileas> but if its ralink, they will eventually relwase hald working drivers
[01:00] <mkanyicy> faileas, hahaha, thanks!!
[01:00] <gdb> Then those 5 people are ignorant.  There's no need to use sudo to change your own password.  Just use the passwd command directl.
[01:00] <faileas> isn't the command passwd?
[01:00] <gdb> directly*
[01:00] <gdb> $ passwd
[01:00] <gdb> by itself
[01:01] <gdb> will change the password of the current user (ie; you)
[01:01] <Real_Ubot> gdb: Ah, ok, you may be right.
[01:01] <gdb> You can optionally specify your own username: $ passwd shwack
[01:01] <gdb> If you try someone else's name, you'l get an error.
[01:02] <Real_Ubot> I also have seen different kind of changes in sudoers. My exampele above and also this (Ubuntu Docuemntation): username ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
[01:02] <Shwack> gdb - i'm guessing typing sudo wasn't the cause of my problem then, as you are basically offering the same advice minus the sudo
[01:02] <Hilikus> wouldnt sudo passwd myUser also work?
[01:02] <Real_Ubot> Dr_Willis: Yes, I know, but maybe sudoers file is a better choice?
[01:02] <boscop> according to the manual, that other laptop's graphics card is a nVidia GeForce G104M but when I run ubuntu live cd and run lspci it says: ATI Technologies Inc. Device 9553. Why?
[01:02] <gdb> Shwack: No, I can't conceive of any circumstance where changing one's password would cause a system to become unusuable.
[01:02] <Shwack> well it happened
[01:02] <gdb> Then I would suggest the two things are unrelated.
[01:02] <Shwack> i thought ubuntu was great now I think it's terrible
[01:03] <boscop> did it recognize it wrong?
[01:03] <Shwack> they are definitely related
[01:03] <Real_Ubot> What line should I user. This one: username ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown or this one: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown
[01:03] <gdb> Well, one can argue that Ubuntu has some quality control issues, but I can't think of any reason changing your password would cause the symptoms you describe.
[01:03] <Shwack> I have the exact errors if you'd like
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> Real_Ubot:  yea its best.. :) im lazy and on a 3 user system. Ive even made a user named 'shutdown' witjh the shutdown command as their default shell.. login as shutdown and system shutdowns :)
[01:03] <Shwack> they are undoubtedly related to pw change
[01:04] <gdb> Shwack: Sure, if you want to pastebin them, I can take a look.
[01:04] <Real_Ubot> Dr_Willis: Ok.
[01:04] <meowkbuntu> ok all this is for ubuntu http://pastebin.ca/1739577. how do i do same thing in kubuntu
[01:05] <Shwack> after logging in,  I get this    "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/shwack/.ICEauthority"   and   "There is a problem with the configuration server. usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256.       AT the login screen I Press Ctrl + Alt + F1 and login via terminal... it logs me in but reports this    "keyctl_search: required key not available"    and leaves my home directory encrypted
[01:05] <tt> what settings for audio drivers and controllers do i want in virtualbox if im trying to stream
[01:06] <meowkbuntu> tt: whats in vbox
[01:07] <gdb> Shwack: Ah, so it sounds like the password for your encrypted data is your old password, while your login password has been changed.  I would surmise that when you login with your new password, that new password is used to decrypt your home directory and fails.  The solution would be to change the password used to decrypt your data or change your login password back to the old one.  I would suggest doing the latter as a test.
[01:07] <rattatoue> Anyone help me with Asoundrc yet?
[01:07] <Shwack> gdb I have already done that with no success
[01:07] <gdb> If there is a way to unhook your login password from the decryption password, then that's another alternative.
[01:07] <tt> what do u mean whats in it, u mean xp
[01:08] <tt> oh i see like the guest or osmething
[01:08] <maglos> when I start an application and switch workspaces the application fallows. does anyone know how I can make the app open in the workspace it was started in?
[01:08] <rattatoue> How do I find out what my usb microphone is on? ex. /dev/dsp
[01:08] <MrKeuner> how can I start the tracker daemon?
[01:08] <MrKeuner> karmic
[01:08] <Shwack> gdb - it advises me to try ecryptfs-mount-private    which fails because I dont know the pass"phrase"  i only know the password.  There is a manual on recovering your passphrase with your password which I followed and that fails as well.
[01:09] <gdb> Shwack: With both the old and new passwords?
[01:09] <Shwack> I pretty mcuh typed  sudo passwd  and it ruined my entire computer
[01:09] <meowkbuntu> ok all this is for ubuntu http://pastebin.ca/1739577. how do i do same thing in kubuntu
[01:09] <Shwack> gdb yes with both old and new passwords - tried 10,000 times and then double checked 20,000 more times
[01:09] <tt> nevermind tried OSS and worked
[01:09] <macman_> does linux have an app that can rip streaming video .. ie from sources like hulu.com or any other place ?
[01:10] <meowkbuntu> tt what os are you runing vbox on. and what do you have installed in vbox. (eg vbox running on xp with ubuntu installed)
[01:11] <meowkbuntu> tt thats what we need to know befor we can truly help you
[01:11] <gdb> I don't think the act of running 'sudo passwd' ruined your system, and your system doesn't sound ruined to me.  It sounds like authentication for the encryption software for your home directory is all that's not working.  Have you taken a look at this resource? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[01:11] <gdb> And this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[01:12] <MrKeuner> where did trackerd go?
[01:12] <kittykitty> ok, i seem to have had massive hd failure of somesort, is there a way to recover the "crap" that is now in /lost+found without having to look through every file that i probably won't beable to recogize?
[01:12] <gdb> Specifically this line here: #
[01:12] <kaos63> Hi guys i am looking for help on how can i shutdown my new install of Ubuntu 9.10 >> it simply won't shutdown
[01:12] <gdb>  sudo mount -t ecryptfs /home/username/.Private /home/username/Private
[01:12] <Shwack> gdb I have already tried that
[01:12] <Vinceman> is there a split in sound of linux, normal applications and movies etc. ?
[01:12] <gdb> kaos63: sudo shutdown -t0 -h now
[01:13] <kaos63> I tried that not working
[01:13] <gdb> kaos63: failing that: $ sudo halt
[01:13] <faileas> kittykitty: hmm, its a bit advanced, but you could probably use http://www.digitalforensicssolutions.com/Scalpel/ scapel
[01:13] <gdb> Shwack: How about this one? #
[01:13] <gdb>  ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase "login passphrase"
[01:14] <kittykitty> well right now my computer half-ass starts up, most stuff isn't running, X fails to load a windows manager, and everything in my /home directory is missing
[01:14] <xim_> i was downloading a very large torrent (mst3k episodes) directly to my external drive, then I disconnected the drive to take with me on vacation and watch the ones that had completed, now when I plug the drive back in, it wont recognize that 75+gb have already been downloaded or recognize them as part of the download and continue with it.  what can I do? its ktorrent/
[01:14] <kaos63> i have searched few ubuntu forum and the issue seem to known and i follow all suggestion > like making change to the halt but no luck
[01:16] <Guest94418> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 64-bit and I have intel integrated graphics, my laptop is running extremely slowly, at about three or four frames per second.
[01:16] <gdb> kaos63: This may be relevant to your issue, not sure if it's the same or not -> http://www.econowics.com/news-from-the-net/168/solved-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-shutdown-problem/
[01:16] <gdb> Guest94418: http://www.ivankristianto.com/2009/06/howto-fix-ubuntu-jaunty-904-intel-graphics-problem/
[01:16] <gdb> Guest94418: may be the same issue
[01:16] <kaos63> Thx will check it
[01:17] <Guest94418> Alright I'll check real quick, thanks
[01:17] <kaos63> Guest94418 >> checked that similar issue but my issue is that i did a clean install
[01:17] <kaos63> and the rest have upgraded from 9.04
[01:18] <Shwack> Isn't there a way I can just go back from typing sudo passwd?
[01:18] <Shwack> Why can't I just go back to before I typed it?
[01:18] <kittykitty> ok so how is that supposed to help?
[01:18] <gdb> Shwack: Have you tried resetting your password back to your old one?  I think you mentioned you have but I wanted to make sure.
[01:19] <bean> Shwack: reinstall, you've been asking all day?
[01:19] <cyberjorge> hi, for Flexshares file server where does it saves the user files by default?
[01:19] <kittykitty> faileas: scalpal appears to be for a fs that you accidently formatted, don't think it'll help
[01:19] <Shwack> bean i've been asking all day because I dont think I should have to reinstall or lose all my data simply for changing my password... this is ridiculous
[01:20] <Shwack> Ubuntu sucks
[01:20] <bean> Shwack: you have an encrypted home dir?
[01:20] <bean> !attitude | Shwack
[01:21] <Shwack> bean I have an attitude with Ubuntu, not with the help I've received here - you're obviously trigger happy with the bots
[01:21] <verb3k> In the terminal, if you have a very long command, can you go up and down the line (which is warped) without going through all the letters
[01:21] <verb3k> ?
[01:21] <gdb> I don't think this is specifically an issue with Ubuntu, to be honest, but is an issue with the transparency of ecrypted home directories on Linux in general.
[01:21] <Shwack> gdb - ok, but definitely don't think Ubuntu is ready for the average user.
[01:22] <chuckf> verb3k: you can go by word wiht ctrl+arrow
[01:22] <Guest94418> Well whatever, I guess I'll try this, I've got nothing to lose. If it breaks Ubuntu/doesn't work, I'll just have to go with Mint until there's a fix for it.
[01:22] <kittykitty> ok how about this, i made an image of my hd a while back, but i'd like to retrieve the files from lost+found, is there a way to diff the drives contents (even if its just a file exists/size output) ?
[01:22] <gatinho> oi
[01:22] <Shwack> If I encountered this kind of trouble with windows everybody would just be laughing and saying windows is terribe
[01:23] <minimec> Shwack: Does an average user encrypt his home partition?
[01:23] <chuckf> so Shwack if you did sudo passwd what is happening now?
[01:23] <gatinho> i like
[01:23] <verb3k> chuckf, that's a bit faster, thanks
[01:23] <Shwack> chuckf I can't login at all - my home directory is encrypted and Ubuntu thinks my login password is diff than my encryption password
[01:23] <kittykitty> minimec: actually the average windows nt user does, cause its the default setting
[01:24] <gdb> Shwack: Here's another resource that may be helpful: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/3/
[01:24] <Shwack> chuckf I changed password back to the old password the exact same way and still nothing owrks
[01:24] <gdb> The topic of that page is "Recovery of an Encrypted Home Directory is possible from an Ubuntu 9.10 LiveCD."
[01:24] <minimec> kittykitty: average windows nt user ;)
[01:25] <bean> Shwack:  I also don't know why you did sudo passwd, that would change roots password , no?
[01:25] <kittykitty> anyways, someone have a way to ls -la an entire drive then diff the output so i can see what files are missing from my disc and i should be looking for in /lost+found ?
[01:25] <Shwack> minimec - I installed Ubuntu without knowledge of encryption
[01:25] <Shwack> I am the average user...
[01:25] <gdb> The average Windows NT user doesn't encrypt their home directory and it is not the default setting.  There is the option to do file level encryption on the fly.
[01:25] <snake> how do i unmoutn my webcam
[01:26] <fongoul> Does any one know how to get rid of the pass word prompt for wifi password keyring when autologin is used?  I use a bios password for security and just find this a pain.
[01:26] <Shwack> anyway I have to go to school - I'll be back in 2 hours asking for more help
[01:26] <gdb> sudo find / -type f -print > /tmp/compete-file-list.txt
[01:26] <kittykitty> everytime i install 2kas, nt or even just workstation, the damn thing goes "here you go, encrypted user folder"
[01:26] <gdb> complete*
[01:26] <snake> how do i unmoutn my webcam
[01:26] <chuckf> Shwack: that link for linux-mag is a good one for your situation
[01:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm back
[01:26] <gdb> Shwack: Good luck!
[01:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> its not the xorg.conf
[01:27] <mdeonte> snake: how do you unmount?
[01:27] <bean> Shwack:  follow the guide linked and you should be good to go
[01:27] <snake> umount
[01:27] <Shwack> chuckf it would b eexcept I dont know and never st a passphrase
[01:27] <Shwack> I only know my login password, which is the only thing I was asked for during install.
[01:27] <Shwack> I have read manuals for recovering the passphrase with the password, but it fails for me
[01:27] <mdeonte> snake: your webcam isnt mounted iirc like removable storage.
[01:27] <Shwack> i have tried 10,000 times
[01:28] <minimec> Shwack: I don't know what you did, but with the karmic installs I did, I didm't accidently encrypt my /home partition. But I normally /configure my partitions manually. I never used that guided partition thing.
[01:28] <snake> iirc?
[01:28] <Shwack> I did the manual partition install minimec
[01:28] <gdb> IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
[01:28] <bean> Shwack: i guess i don't know why it would not work then.  If you let me I'd ssh in later and take a look
[01:28] <Shwack> however, i never set a passphrase.... anyway, thanks for all the help - I have to go
[01:29] <Shwack> bean i'd call you on the telephone and gladly talk things over with you, but i duno about letting somebody have ssh acces, to be honest I dont even know how to do it - ok with that, goodnight everyone see you in a few
[01:29] <snake> so i cant like turn it off or anything ... besides not using a program that usesw it in the first place
[01:29] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I verify that an init script is linked properly from the rc?.d directories?
[01:29] <bean> !upstart | Mike_lifeguard
[01:29] <iKernel> NO
[01:29] <iKernel> WHY?
[01:30] <Mike_lifeguard> That's not helpful 9_9
[01:30] <snake> !pastebinit
[01:30] <bean> Mike_lifeguard: just saying 9.10 uses upstart
[01:30] <snake> !turn off webcam
[01:30] <Mike_lifeguard> bean: Yes, I know. That's not what I asked.
[01:30] <kittykitty> shwack, i got a question for you
[01:30] <snake> lol
[01:31] <snake> !Mac
[01:31] <minimec> Shwack: I still consider it to be a good idea to create another sudoer user, and then try to get access again to the /home directory of the old user.
[01:31] <bean> Mike_lifeguard: you could check the rc.d directories then
[01:31] <snake> !Winblows
[01:31] <kittykitty> damn it he left, i was just gonna tel him, if hes working on a fresh install with nothing on it, rm -rf is his friend!
[01:31] <Mike_lifeguard> bean: Yes, I'll have to
[01:31] <snake> !Windows
[01:31] <iKernel> !ubottu | snake
[01:31] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > snake
[01:32] <snake> how do i see a pm?
[01:32] <iKernel> snake, depends on what irc client you're using
[01:32] <bean> should have made a new window
[01:32] <IdleOne> snake: depends on the client you are using
[01:32] <bean> or something
[01:32] <plymouth> hello
[01:32] <snake> xchat
[01:32] <IdleOne> but if it's graphical then you should have a new tab named ubottu
[01:32] <bean> plymouth: hi
[01:33] <snake> !Private Message
[01:33] <gdb> snake: click the tab at the bottom of the window that says "ubottu" on it.
[01:34] <plymouth> i have a 3g usb modem, is it possible i could share this internet connection with other computers on a wireless network?
[01:34] <IdleOne> !ics
[01:34] <Subbuteo> aiuto caratteri terminale
[01:35] <mazda01> ne1 ever merely copy, /home, /etc/, /use/local/bin/  and ne1 other locations you saved custom files to, then installed fresh, then just pasted over the backup folders? woudl that work to move configuration files and what not to a new install>
[01:35] <Subbuteo> si creano degli spazi nella digitazione senza volerlo!
[01:35] <Flare183> !english | Subbuteo
[01:35] <IdleOne> !it | Subbuteo
[01:35] <reeeeeesty> anybody know if there is a datacom channel on freenode?
[01:36] <Subbuteo> italia please
[01:36] <minimec> kittykitty: That Shwak decided, that Ubuntu sucks, so it sucks... as easy as that. :)
[01:36] <mkanyicy> !it | Subbuteo
[01:36] <gdb> The guy is frustrated, cut him some slack.
[01:36] <Subbuteo> #ubuntu.it
[01:36] <mazda01> i've just noticed that since I have upgraded dist's all the way back from gutsy, that my install doesn't look like a fresh ubuntu karmic koala install. because I just installed it onto a usbn stick and it looks awesome things like k3b work but k3b doesn;'t work in my upgraded ubuntu
[01:37] <mkanyicy> !it | Subbuteo
[01:37] <minimec> Subbuteo: /join #ubuntu-it
[01:37] <mazda01> reeeeeesty, just try, /join #datacom   and see what happens. if you don't see other people or header info about channel then probably not. just google  irc datacom
[01:38] <reeeeeesty> nothin in datacom or datacomm :[
[01:38] <luis__> whats happening?! ffmpeg doesnt wanna convert flvs into mp3!!!!!
[01:38] <luis__> it did before!!! now it says: failed conversion, wtf?!
[01:39] <mkanyicy> luis__, calm down
[01:39] <luis__> sorry...!
[01:39] <plymouth> hey guys if im setting up a wireless network in my house (NOT wanting to connect to the internet, just a local wireless network) then what equipment do i need? just a wireless access point? or a wireless router too?
[01:39] <mkanyicy> luis__, try decoding to wav files
[01:39] <reeeeeesty> well does anyone know how to test cable without a cable tester? or pluggin it in live to the router? ..ive heard you can do it with a laptop im justnot sureh ow
[01:39] <mkanyicy> luis__, try "ffmpeg -y -i file.flv file.wav"
[01:39] <plymouth> every single tutorial on the internet assumes i want to connect to the internet with the wireless network, so im really unsure what is the minimum i need just to do what i want
[01:39] <luis__> mkanyicy: ???
[01:40] <luis__> wait no mkanyicy i am using firefox app converter
[01:40] <pilif12p-GoHawks> plymouth: try something like ##electronics
[01:40] <luis__> for youtube mkanyicy
[01:40] <funghoul> plymouth a wireless router is the easiest way
[01:40] <mazda01> plymouth, wireless access point that has a built in dhcp server
[01:40] <plymouth> funghoul: even if i dont want to connect to the internet i still need a wireless router?
[01:40] <mkanyicy> luis__, there was a youtube ripper ages ago'
[01:40] <mazda01> plymouth, also, a dns server in house if you want to be able to see other machines by hostname
[01:41] <luis__> mkanyicy: its called download helper
[01:41] <luis__> it worked pretty nice before
[01:41] <plymouth> mazda01: i just want a simple solution i can do right now...
[01:41] <mkanyicy> luis__, anyway get an flv file and use ffmpeg to see if it is ffmpeg's problem or what
[01:41] <faileas> plymouth: well,  router is an AP with a built in switch
[01:41] <luis__> now ffmpeg is now working at conversions...
[01:41] <luis__> ok
[01:41] <plymouth> mazda01: something that wont take more than 30 mins to setup
[01:41] <funghoul> plymouth a router basicly means it has a dhcp server witch is nessecary to asign ip adresses automaticly
[01:41] <luis__> how i do it?
[01:41] <mkanyicy> luis__, i don't know, get it from youtube?
[01:41] <ZackFeuernt> Anyone here?
[01:42] <mkanyicy> everyone is here ZackFeuernt
[01:42] <Kevin147> ZackFeuernt, Yes?
[01:42] <minimec> plymouth: Also consider the costs... The price difference between a wireless router and an simple access point will be minimal, I guess.
[01:42] <ZackFeuernt> I have a quick question about live cds.
[01:42] <funghoul> plymouth just set it up exactly like you were going to do internet but don't plug in the internet cord
[01:42] <mazda01> mkanyicy, utube ripper here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/downloadextract-audio-from-youtube-videos-using-utube-ripper-in-ubuntu.html
[01:42] <plymouth> funghoul: ok thanks
[01:42] <mazda01> utube ripper: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/downloadextract-audio-from-youtube-videos-using-utube-ripper-in-ubuntu.html
[01:42] <ZackFeuernt> Is it possible to run the live cd, but have the usb drive store the data, but not the OS?
[01:42] <funghoul> plymouth a wireless lynksys router is probably best
[01:42] <mkanyicy> thanks mazda01, it's luis__ who have youtube issues
[01:43] <mazda01> funghoul, not true, a router takes an internet connection and routes to each of the devies that is connected to it.
[01:43] <mazda01> luis__, utube ripper http://www.ubuntugeek.com/downloadextract-audio-from-youtube-videos-using-utube-ripper-in-ubuntu.html
[01:43] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, yes that can be done
[01:43] <luis__> mkanyicy: wow, the conversion of shaggy repent to mpeg was correct
[01:43] <plymouth> funghoul: cos the truth of the matter is that i have a little 3g usb broadband modem in one of the comps and i want all the other comps to use that internet, is that possible?
[01:43] <luis__> but mkanyicy when u try to convert to mp3 it doesnt works
[01:43] <luis__> and it worked before jesus christ
[01:43] <funghoul> right but it has all the other stuff to do the job plymouth want to do and you can get one a walmart
[01:43] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, is there an article on it or something? I can't find much.
[01:44] <funghoul> $40 last time I got one wireless g lynksys
[01:44] <plymouth> funghoul: i have a D-LINK router and access point
[01:44] <mkanyicy> luis__, it should depends on how are you using ffmpeg
[01:44] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, why, does the computer you want to run the live session not able to boot to usb or do you just not have a large enough usb stick. it is possible but why not just get a $40 16gb stick and do it all from one location
[01:44] <funghoul> use it then
[01:44] <mkanyicy> luis__, man ffmpeg
[01:44] <plymouth> funghoul: is doing what i want possible? i.e sharing the 3g usb modem internet connection among the other comps on the wireless network?
[01:44] <faileas> plymouth: yeah, prolly connect it to a computer, set that up to do routing, and dhcp, and connect that to your AP
[01:45] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, I'm using a macbook to run it.
[01:45] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, no there is no article i know of but you just plug the usb disk while on live cd
[01:45] <faileas> for the routing bit, i *think* there's a gui that makes it easy
[01:45] <funghoul> if you use your computer as a fire wall try looking up tutorials about that
[01:45] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, it will automaticly write to it?
[01:45] <minimec> plymouth: So the computer needs to network devices, one for the Internet, the 3g modem for the local devices.
[01:45] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, write what?
[01:46] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, nothing will be automatically written to it
[01:46] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, the new programs or the changes.
[01:46] <plymouth> minimec: wht?
[01:46] <mcspa> Hi, I need to install libxml 2.4 but synaptics package manager only shows 2.6, how can I install 2.4 with synaptic, or without it
[01:46] <funghoul> mcspa try sudo apt-get install libxml2.4
[01:46] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, still don't understand why not just do it all from usb stick (4gb even)  here ya go for livecd and usb stick for persistency. http://intro-prog-bioinfo-2007-ucb.wikispaces.com/LiveCD+and+USB+persistence
[01:46] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, let's start afresh, hi my name is mkanyicy or mka, what exactly is your problem?
[01:47] <faileas> plymouth: http://linfiniti.com/2009/06/sharing-a-3g-modem-connection-with-ubuntu-jaunty/ this sounds exactly like your ptoblem ;)
[01:47] <minimec> plymouth: Your COmputer will be a simple router, and needs a Wan and some Lan Connections to work correctly.
[01:48] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, still alive?
[01:48] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, I'll start from the begining. I can't load the USB directly, as my MacBook has the feature blocked. I could run it on a USB only, but I would need some kind of a boot disc. I didn't really want to load my flash drive up with the OS either.
[01:48] <mcspa> funghoul package not found, where can I find names for packages? maybe I can lookup exact package name there
[01:48] <minimec> plymouth: One network device to have access to the internet... and the 3G modem for the local connection of your wireless devices.
[01:48] <pjotter> Does anybody use photoshop under wine?
[01:48] <funghoul> have you tryed to use the newer lib?
[01:49] <funghoul> use gimp
[01:49] <pjotter> I'm trying to get photoshop to work here..
[01:49] <funghoul> mcspa try the libxml2.6
[01:49] <mcspa> funghoul I'm trying to compile a game server that requires libxml 2.0 -> 2.4
[01:49] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, you are not clear my friend, are you trying to use a livecd and a usb device to store files?
[01:49] <mcspa> funghoul hence the need for it
[01:50] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, Sorry for not stating it clearly. Yes, that is what I'm trying to do.
[01:50] <faileas> mkanyicy: i think he wants to have his persistant files in a USB key, and the rest on a liveusb
[01:50] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, then boot on a livecd and then insert your usb flash, it will be mounted to /media folder
[01:51] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, Will I be able to change system settings with it?
[01:51] <faileas> ZackFeuernt: no.
[01:51] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, which system settings?
[01:51] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I see the boot messages after booting?
[01:52] <jtaji> Mike_lifeguard: dmesg
[01:52] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, I just saw this thing on the Wiki that was talking about persistant files. It said you could use a USB drive with a live CD and install applications and such.
[01:52] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, all the livecd session system files are in the RAM and/or the swap if available
[01:52] <mikejet> how do i get firefox to use American, not British spelling.
[01:52] <Mike_lifeguard> jtaji: thx
[01:53] <pilif12p> mikejet: #firefox
[01:53] <mkanyicy> But you said you don't want to load an OS to your FLASH disk
[01:53] <ZackFeuernt> I don't.
[01:53] <funghoul> mcspa what game?
[01:53] <ZackFeuernt> Wait... I see.
[01:54] <newbux> how do I fix the "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknow-block (8,1)" error on boot up?
[01:54] <mkanyicy> What is wrong with your ubuntu from the hard drive?
[01:54] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, What is wrong with your ubuntu from the hard drive?
[01:54] <ZackFeuernt> So I can't change any system files, but I can install applications, as long as they are installed on the USB Drive
[01:55] <minimec> plymouth: In your case it might be a solution to buy a usb wireless device, that you can plug in the computer. Like that you would have that router configuration, using the 3G modem as Wan connection, and the wifi stick als local wifi access point.
[01:55] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, Nothing, I can't overwrite OSX, nor install anything on OSX. OSX Is the OS I have on my computer. I just wanted a LiveCD version of linux to use along with it.
[01:56] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, for how long do you want to do that?
[01:56] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, why don't you install linux on a separate partition along side OSX?
[01:56] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, Work computer.
[01:56] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, I want to do it until around june
[01:57] <ZackFeuernt> Maybe julu
[01:57] <lockd> "nor install anything on OSX"... yeah I figured a company workstation
[01:57] <ZackFeuernt> *July
[01:57] <lockd> you can use an external hard drive, or a usb drive if you can live with space constraint
[01:57] <lockd> err, usb flash drive
[01:57] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, you could always put in a hard drive, make it hidden, and only be able to boot it using a program on a usb stick
[01:58] <romeumello> hello, where do i get support? i wanto to install ubuntu desktop without graphic interface
[01:58] <lockd> iKernel, and what happens if the shrink filesystem fails
[01:58] <iKernel> no one would know the difference until they looked in the BIOS settings or opened up the PC
[01:58] <ZackFeuernt> iKernel, I'm not getting fired :P
[01:58] <iKernel> lockd, he would get fired :)
[01:58] <newbux> i removed the 2.6.31.16 version in synaptic, why do I still see it on the boot up list?
[01:58] <ZackFeuernt> Anyways.
[01:59] <lockd> ZackFeuernt, use a liveusb, not a livecd. that supports persistence
[01:59] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, why don't you install a VM on a USD stick?
[01:59] <iKernel> USB*
[01:59] <lockd> ZackFeuernt, or just do a regular install of Ubuntu on the USB drive
[01:59] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, you rather disband the whole ubuntu thing rather than risking your job, invest on a cheap pc and use ubuntu at home, or find excuses to convince your boss that your are not productive too much with OS X
[01:59] <ZackFeuernt> USB Drive Start discs are not supported by my Laptop
[02:00] <ZackFeuernt> I'm allowed to, I just can't install anything on the Main computer.
[02:00] <Rafase282> anyone has installed ubuntu on a android phone?
[02:00] <lockd> then use a boot CD like they used to use floppys for
[02:00] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, well. you could install ubuntu on a USB drive and use a boot CD... what lockd said
[02:00] <iKernel> just make sure you don't use a cheap usb stick
[02:00] <ZackFeuernt> iKernel, Where could I get a BootCD
[02:01] <brad> are you able to provide help with installing wolf:ET on ubuntu server?
[02:01] <iKernel> brad, who is "you"?
[02:01] <mkanyicy> ZackFeuernt, and mind you, if our instructions to fiddle finally makes you unable to boot your work pc when the customers want that invoice that is in your OSX desktop
[02:01] <brad> iKernel: the lovely group of friendly people in here ;-)
[02:01] <iKernel> ok
[02:02] <brad> 1 sec, I'll pastebin
[02:02] <ZackFeuernt> mkanyicy, I have two work computers. A desktop, XP, and a MacBook, OSX. Macbook is used for my personal use.
[02:03] <brad> http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m50ac2e36 -- I have googled quite a bit, but most errors seem to be caused by 64bit OS. I'm using 32bit now
[02:03] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, ask if you can install another OS on it
[02:03] <lockd> presumably you can use persistent mode with a LiveCD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[02:03] <ZackFeuernt> Yeah.
[02:03] <ZackFeuernt> That's what I was talking about.
[02:04] <lockd> but you had no luck?
[02:04] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, are yo u just not listening to me because you don't think it's possible to install ubuntu to a usb stick and have it be persistent? check this out, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/.
[02:04] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, I have been there. I can not run from the USB Drive, as I said. I can't access my Startup bios
[02:05] <iKernel> ZackFeuernt, do a bit of googling and you should be able to find a bootcd which will enable you to boot from a usb drive
[02:05] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, boot cd to boot usb stick with persistency. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/usb-boot-cds/
[02:05] <iKernel> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/make-a-usb-boot-cd-for-xubuntu-9-10/ <-- hey presto
[02:05] <mazda01> i've just noticed that since I have upgraded dist's all the way back from gutsy, that my install doesn't look like a fresh ubuntu karmic koala install. because I just installed it onto a usbn stick and it looks awesome things like k3b work but k3b doesn;'t work in my upgraded ubuntu
[02:06] <mazda01> ne1 ever merely copy, /home, /etc/, /use/local/bin/  and ne1 other locations you saved custom files to, then installed fresh, then just pasted over the backup folders? woudl that work to move configuration files and what not to a new install>
[02:06] <Code_Bleu> im running 9.04 on ibm r32 laptop, just installed a My Essentials pcmcia wireless G card...I can connect to my wireless...and ping local network..and bring up local web pages, however im unable to browse the internet...any suggestions?
[02:07] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, Should that work with Ubuntu 8.10?
[02:07] <xim_> i was using ktorrent to download a large torrent (135gig) to my external drive, and disconnected it to go on vacation, now the torrent wont recognize the partial files and resume from them.  any ideas?
[02:07] <iKernel> ummm
[02:07] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, yes. it should work for any disto
[02:07] <iKernel> my frontal lobes are not working at full efficency...
[02:08] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, Thanks. I just need to burn my distro now.
[02:08] <iKernel> this happens to me a lot, should I get an mri?
[02:08] <plymouth> iKernel: i thought about calling myself iDunno and causing u to LOL
[02:08] <iKernel> plymouth, lol
[02:08] <iKernel> plymouth, you actually did make me lol right then
[02:08] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, Just found out I have one CD.
[02:09] <mazda01> ne1 know how to setup a linux box which has 2 network cards in it to act like a switch? I jsut want it to forward packets so that I can connect an xbox to the mythtv box so that the xbox can access the internal network and the internet. the mythtv box currently has one connection to it from a switch.
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> !ics | mazda01
[02:09] <iKernel> oh god no not firestarter
[02:09] <ZackFeuernt> mazda01, Why can't I use the live cd as a boot?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  some iptables commands qwill do it.. and i dont know the  commands. :)
[02:10] <Jeruvy> iKernel: whats wrong with firestarter?  Better than ufw.
[02:10] <iKernel> Jeruvy, bad experience with it, mind you this was years ago
[02:11] <JAMD456> My dying laptop managed to scramble a NTFS filesystem is there any way to repair it?
[02:11] <iKernel> mazda01, you need to bridge the two connections. long ago, I was trying to do something similar with a wireless card and an ethernet card... I ended up using a hub between tower A and laptop B, bridging the ethernet card and wireless card of tower A, and I think that it worked
[02:11] <iKernel> JAMD456, chkdsk
[02:11] <mazda01> ZackFeuernt, you can. if you want to create a livecd with persistency then you'll need the usb stick for persistency
[02:12] <JAMD456> Under Ubuntu
[02:12] <iKernel> JAMD456, 'fraid not.
[02:12] <think_> zown
[02:12] <boscop> according to the manual, that other laptop's graphics card is a nVidia GeForce G104M but when I run ubuntu live cd and run lspci it says: ATI Technologies Inc. Device 9553. Why? did it recognize it wrong?
[02:12] <Code_Bleu> nevermind: id10t error
[02:12] <iKernel> JAMD456, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521207
[02:13] <Nom-> Hi all.  I'm starting the investigation process of creating an automated install for lucid.  In the past we've used the 'fai' package, which isn't available yet (i see the author is working on it), but after looking at the ubuntu docs, i see there's other methods supported... preseed.cfg for instance
[02:13] <iKernel> JAMD456, you can TRY using ntfsck http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsck
[02:13] <Nom-> Does the 'preseed' method differ greatly from the 'fai' method?
[02:13] <mazda01> iKernel, ok , i don't want to buy a hub or switch because I have an old ethernet card laying around that I hope works out of the box. I know i'll have to have the linux box on everytime i want to access the network from the xbox but that beats buying new hardware. i think anyway, now that I think about it it may be cheaper electricity wise to just buy another switch or drill another hole in the floor and route another cat6e cable from the
[02:13] <mazda01>  switch downstairs
[02:13] <pjotter> anyone here that runs photoshop under wine?
[02:14] <panos4ever> use gimp man not photoshop
[02:14] <iKernel> mazda01, no, you'd probably be better off making a crossover cable rather than making a length of cat6e cable
[02:14] <think_> i tried and it wouldnt start up under 8.10
[02:14] <iKernel> mazda01, cost-wise that is
[02:14] <pjotter> I still need photoshop. Gimp doesn't support all functions I need unfortunately
[02:15] <bluelephant> setting up a new system, had trouble with WPA. Ubuntu forums on WPA refer to NetworkManger for Hardy. Anything more recent?
[02:15] <panos4ever> oh well whats your problem?
[02:15] <iKernel> pjotter, run photoshop with wine
[02:15] <think_> some photoshop plugins work in gimp im told look into it
[02:15] <iKernel> mazda01, oh, actually now that you mention it, it'll prolly be cheaper in the long run to not have to turn on your linux box every time you want to connect with xbox
[02:15] <bluelephant> My system is a laptop with a finicky wifi card, RTl8192
[02:15] <JAMD456> Thanks
[02:15] <panos4ever> ubuntu 9.10 doesnt have problems with WPA
[02:15] <bluelephant> pardon, RTL8192
[02:15] <mazda01> iKernel, i would need a crossover cable versus a straight thru cable if I hook up the xbox to the 2nd network card of the linux box? I didnt' know that
[02:16] <bluelephant> Thank you panos4ever.
[02:16] <iKernel> mazda01, yes you would indeed.
[02:16] <coop3r> huh
[02:16] <panos4ever> np blue
[02:16] <pjotter> I was just wondering. I just installed photoshop 6 under wine. It works fine. Exept, when drawing a selection box. I can see the selection. Same thing happens when drawing a line with the ruler tool. While drawing, the line is invisable.
[02:16] <iKernel> mazda01, apparently they're not difficult to make yourself... but I've never tried it
[02:17] <duffman> Hi.
[02:17] <mazda01> iKernel, is that because it's not a switch and just a network card? i actually already have a crossover cable because I would hook up 2 xbox's for playing against others within the same house.
[02:17] <panos4ever> wine problems
[02:17] <panos4ever> pjotter
[02:17] <iKernel> mazda01, I guess so. and hey presto.
[02:17] <duffman> I was wondering if anyone knows a way to assign programs to startup on certain workspaces.
[02:17] <bluelephant> panos, can you suggest what might be going wrong? I installed a driver for the card and now iwconfig reflects the driver, but I can't manage to open a browser on the wireless network.
[02:17] <panos4ever> use  linux software
[02:17] <think_> allways wine problems
[02:17] <pjotter> so, no fix then?
[02:18] <Soliloquial> So, the login screen pops up, graphics work fine until I log in; then black diagonal lines about 1.5-2 inches appear
[02:18] <think_> look for plugins for gimp the ones you use in ps
[02:18] <iKernel> pjotter, I'm afraid that the best free software for image manipulation is the GIMP
[02:18] <Soliloquial> What gives?
[02:18] <panos4ever> blue install ubuntu 9.10 all drivers are in the kernerl u wont have problems
[02:18] <pjotter> I tried searching the wine site for this problem but couldn't find it in the bugs list.
[02:18] <iKernel> pjotter, but if you do what think_ says, and look for plugins for the GIMP that will give you similar functionality to what you need from photoshop, then you should be good
[02:19] <think_> what version
[02:19] <duffman> also can anyone reccomend a good program launcher?
[02:19] <pjotter> Don't worry.. I mainly use Gimp now. But I still miss some functonallity that is in photoshop.
[02:19] <iKernel> duffman, ./program
[02:19] <iKernel> pjotter, which functionality specifically?
[02:19] <bluelephant> @panso4ever ... You are using Ubuntu 9.10 - the Karmic Koala - released in October 2009 and supported until April 2011. This section is an introduction to Ubuntu. It explains the Ubuntu philosophy and roots, gives information about how to contribute to Ubuntu, and shows how to get help with Ubuntu.
[02:19] <duffman> iKernel: i meant like a gui app
[02:19] <pjotter> Well... for instance. i really need a minimum and maximum filter.
[02:20] <Soliloquial> Pic of dysfunctional display: <img src="http://imgur.com/nAJUv.jpg" alt="Hosted by imgur.com" />
[02:20] <think_> aand a single window
[02:20] <Soliloquial> er...<img src="http://imgur.com/nAJUv.jpg" alt="Hosted by imgur.com" />
[02:20] <panos4ever> so what blue?
[02:20] <Soliloquial> whatever, that image
[02:20] <iKernel> duffman, many applications install entries under the applications menu in the top left hand corner of your screen
[02:20] <bluelephant> So, I'm having trouble identifying next steps getting onto the wireless network.
[02:20] <duffman> yes yes i know, but i was thinking about a 3rd party program to hold the icons
[02:20] <bluelephant> I tried deleting the existing wireless network profile and recreating it... no dice.
[02:21] <panos4ever> which version do u have?
[02:21] <bluelephant> version of ....
[02:21] <think_> wine
[02:21] <Soliloquial> I think my refresh rate/resolution is set wrong...but I can't see anything on the display/terminal to change the resolution
[02:21] <Enigmator> gnome-do using gnome krunner using kde duffman
[02:22] <duffman> ok thanks Enigmator
[02:22] <pjotter> And also.. for some clients I work for.. they really want photoshop CMYK images. Thatś really the main problem.
[02:22] <duffman> also anyway to assign programs to startup and assign them to specific workspaces?
[02:22] <iKernel> pjotter, GIMP can save files in photoshop format
[02:22] <iKernel> i think
[02:22] <panos4ever> yeap
[02:22] <pjotter> Yes, but unfortunately not in CMYK mode.
[02:23] <iKernel> oh
[02:23] <iKernel> hm
[02:23] <panos4ever> aircrack-ng 4 ever :D
[02:23] <iKernel> pjotter, sounds like a good suggestion for the gimp developers
[02:23] <pjotter> If they can get CMYK to work in the Gimp, that would be the end of photoshop.
[02:24] <newbux> is the 2.6.31.17 kernel released?
[02:24] <bluelephant> @panos4ever I'm using 9.10
[02:24] <panos4ever> even if it becomes photoshop will be difficult to fall
[02:24] <Enigmator> or cairo-dock for an application launcher using Icons
[02:24] <panos4ever> it has its name
[02:24] <tos__>  hi i am trying to make use of all my ips.... i have ubuntu-server installed with 1 NIC.. and im trying to get each ip on that NIC, but my router only allowd 1-ip per MAC, how can i make Virtual NIC's with different mac's ?
[02:24] <panos4ever> ok then blue u dont need network drivers
[02:25] <newbux> can some1 tell me if the 2.6.31.17 kernel is released
[02:25] <tos__> newbux, www.kernel.org
[02:25] <hellyes> can someone please help me with the syntax of chmod?  I am trying to change ownership of a file from root, to myself and / or anybody....
[02:25] <panos4ever> chmod +x
[02:25] <bluelephant> @panos4ever good news there.
[02:25] <jrib> hellyes: why? what file?
[02:25] <boscop> chown
[02:25] <panos4ever> yes blue
[02:25] <hellyes> it's an icon
[02:25] <joshua____> hellyes: chown [-R] user[:group] file
[02:26] <panos4ever> oh yes joshua
[02:26] <jrib> hellyes: what's the exact path...
[02:26] <panos4ever> ie
[02:26] <hellyes> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps
[02:26] <panos4ever> sudo chown -R username /home/username
[02:26] <pjotter> Well, I've worked with photoshop for years now. But nearly all functionallity I need is also in the GIMP nowadays. Except for a few things. That is why I still need photoshop for. But I'm not married to photoshop. :)
[02:26] <hellyes> gxmame.png
[02:26] <panos4ever> file*
[02:26] <jrib> hellyes: it doesn't make sense to want to change the permissions of those files.  Why do you want to?
[02:26] <clever> !install
[02:27] <nu1> hello, I need some help to configure an external network hdd
[02:27] <m0ar> When i star a new session Ubuntuone-client-applet asks for password to the default keyring, how can i automate that?  Giving it elevated rights or something
[02:27] <think_> anyone know why i cant access certain websites in firefox chrome midori ect.
[02:27] <joshua____> m0ar: remove the password from the keyring
[02:27] <panos4ever> guys lets hope microsoft will fall so everybody will use linux
[02:27] <mac9416> How can I install the same packages on a current install as I had in a previous one? Would the status file be any help?
[02:27] <jrib> !clone | mac9416
[02:28] <joshua____> I'll be glad enough if they drop to 50%
[02:28] <panos4ever> they will
[02:28] <Soliloquial> panos4ever ...the general public would be manic.
[02:28] <joshua____> I'd rather the clueless kept using windows
[02:28] <panos4ever> :P
[02:28] <isolat3dsh33p> !ubuntuone
[02:28] <m0ar> joshua____: where?
[02:28] <panos4ever> they dont learn anything with windows they are imsprisoned and they dont get it
[02:29] <panos4ever> and they dont know that they use linux everyday
[02:29] <mac9416> jrib, thanks.
[02:29] <panos4ever> cause servers use unix
[02:29] <joshua____> m0ar: whereever you set it the first time around
[02:29] <tt> Hi, ubuntu wont let me browse the files on my phone or when i hit send via bluetooth via my phone it fails.  well it will let me browse the phone but it doesnt show any of my pictures
[02:29] <m0ar> joshua____: Loooong time ago, i can't recall
[02:29] <isolat3dsh33p> panos4ever: there's no fun if everyone uses Linux. U'll miss the fight
[02:29] <isolat3dsh33p> :)
[02:29] <joshua____> m0ar: I lose
[02:29] <panos4ever> hmmm maybe
[02:30] <m0ar> joshua____: Where is the settings for the keyring then?
[02:30] <Soliloquial> everyone using linux would just make linux poorer, with less OSs to compete with
[02:30] <nu1> which file do I need to modify in order to get a network hdd working on eth0 and a wireless connection on wlan0. I already installed firestarter
[02:30] <iKernel> I wonder what the ebay servers run on
[02:30] <panos4ever> thats not the point
[02:30]  * isolat3dsh33p agrees with Soliloquial 
[02:30] <panos4ever> linux is not about money or popularity
[02:31] <panos4ever> its about knowledge
[02:31] <spill> I've got an employee that I need to monitor where he is going on the internet during work hours, we just made the switch to ubuntu in the last 6 months.  Any suggestions for software that will log his traffic and give me access to it?
[02:31] <isolat3dsh33p> panos4ever: that's good, but not a good thing if everyone uses Linux. No more choices :/
[02:31] <panos4ever> that ok with me
[02:32] <panos4ever> all other choices are useless
[02:32] <shudder> I agree with panos4ever
[02:32] <panos4ever> thx shudder
[02:32] <panos4ever> thats the spirit with linux
[02:32] <shudder> I don't really care who uses linux, as long as it functions for me and does what I want it to
[02:32] <tt> this should work, I cant make files go from my comp to phone
[02:32] <panos4ever> yeap
[02:33] <tt> bluetooth
[02:33] <mazda01> if i have an ubuntu karmic installed on a hdd all configured the way i like it, could I run aptoncd, then make an iso, then backup /etc/, /usr/local/bin/, and /home/. then boot up my karmic i installed in a casper-rw usb stick, then run that aptoncd so that all programs are installed the same on each install, then go back into the hdd ubuntu, mount the casper-rw image, and just paste in the folders I had made a backup of from hdd over the
[02:33] <mazda01>  top of the casper-rw folders? would that work? i know i am gonna try it regardless because I don't care if the usb stick install gets hosed, I can always redo it. i just want to apply all custimizations from my hdd karmic to the usb install the easiest way possible
[02:33] <tt> i mean my phone to comp
[02:33] <jiohdi> linux was made by and for people who like computers to actually do what they want them to do :)
[02:33] <panos4ever> u do ur job better than the others and u olny know it
[02:33] <jrib> can we move the windows vs. linux talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[02:33] <think_> ssh in to the machine and dig out the tmp folder
[02:33] <Ilmatic> Quick help you guys.
[02:34] <panos4ever> we dont have to discuss it anymore
[02:34] <isolat3dsh33p> Ilmatic: Just ask
[02:34] <shudder> mazda01: what exactly are you trying to do? make a perfect replica of your ubuntu install on a flash drive?
[02:34] <Ilmatic> Every application I start up starts in the top left hand corner.
[02:34] <Ilmatic> How do I change this?
[02:34] <tt> ok, has anyone here used bluetooth in linu
[02:34] <panos4ever> everyone that is here use linux and they know the difference ;)
[02:34] <isolat3dsh33p> Ilmatic: Change compiz settings :)
[02:34] <Soliloquial> writing this in a linux channel, I'm bound to be called a "blasphemist", but windows is still very useful -- for games, to the exclusion of everything else
[02:35] <Ilmatic> Err...how?
[02:35] <iflema> tt: i can drop'n'drap to and from in file manager
[02:35] <shudder> Soliloquial: agreed. Windows has its uses
[02:35] <tt> huh it seems like i should be able to
[02:35] <panos4ever> games wont give the knowledge
[02:35] <Ilmatic> Because of this setting, I'm unable to close applications
[02:35] <Ilmatic> unless I right click the tab near the bottom
[02:35] <Lucifero> anyone has x3100 intel? it runs smoothly quake3?
[02:35] <iflema> tt: you say ya can browse but not see all?
[02:35] <panos4ever> u can also play games under linux
[02:35] <shudder> panos4ever: you can, but it still feels incredibly patchy
[02:35] <hexed> Soliloquial; thats the only reason i go to windows anymore...
[02:35] <tt> ya i just found the problem
[02:36] <spill> I've got an employee that I need to monitor where he is going on the internet during work hours, we just made the switch to ubuntu in the last 6 months.  Any suggestions for software that will log his traffic and give me access to it?
[02:36] <iflema> tt: ?
[02:36] <mozicodo> I just reinstalled ubuntu and one of the partitions seems to be missing files.  I didn't format, df shows the proper space is used.  It shows as ext3 in cfdisk but it's ext4.  Only lost+found shows when mounting.
[02:36] <panos4ever> shudder how old are u?
[02:36] <tt> under settings for the pic there was a "bluetooth visibility" setting
[02:36] <mazda01> shudder, no, the hdd install is hosed I think because of upgrading all the way back from hardy heron. k3b no longer works right and misc other things, i just think it's because i have upgraded through update-manger so many times that things are meshing right. so I want to go to a new karmic install on the usb stick but also save all my customizations and not just whats in my /home folder because of ssh, fstab, resolve.conf, hosts file etc
[02:36] <mazda01>  etc. there's tons of things and I don;t want to miss any customization that have done over the yearts
[02:36] <jrib> hexed, panos4ever, shudder, Soliloquial, everyone else I missed: this channel is for support.  Talking about windows here makes it harder to help people with real issues.  #ubuntu-offtopic exists to talk about these things so move the discussion there.
[02:36] <iflema> hmmm
[02:36] <isolat3dsh33p> Ilmatic: Sorry can't help you, my ccsm is not installed. Accidentally removed it. :/
[02:36] <shudder> panos4ever: 17
[02:36] <Jacob2> hey room has anyone tethered to the verizon wireless droid?
[02:36] <tt> that is a really random place for it to be
[02:36] <iflema> tt: aal ggod then
[02:36] <Lucifero> anyone has x3100 intel? it runs smoothly quake3?
[02:36] <tt> and it made me find the pic
[02:36] <panos4ever> nice
[02:36] <Ilmatic> What is a ccsm?
[02:36] <shudder> panos4ever: I am allowed to be here right
[02:36] <jrib> !ccsm | Ilmatic
[02:36] <panos4ever> xaxa of course
[02:36] <tt> and i dont know why i would want it not visible ever
[02:36] <panos4ever> linux is free
[02:36] <think_> hey spill install openshh on his machine and ssh into it looking into the tmp folder
[02:37] <panos4ever> i am 19
[02:37] <tt> thanks
[02:37] <panos4ever> have been using linux for 1.5 years
[02:37] <iflema> tt: porn... lol
[02:37] <hexed> jrib; lol ok sorry buddy
[02:37] <panos4ever> and i am sorry i hadnt before
[02:37] <spill> think thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[02:37] <Ilmatic> Is there anyway I can install it without terminal?
[02:37] <nu1> hello, I need some help. How can I get a network hdd working on eth0 and a wireless connection on wlan0. I already installed firestarter but dont know what else to do
[02:37] <oorah> i'm thinkin of tryin alinux, looks like pretty screenshots
[02:37] <Ilmatic> My terminal just comes up blank now.
[02:37] <oorah> any reviews?
[02:37] <jrib> Ilmatic: sure, use synaptic...
[02:37] <oorah> using xubuntu right now
[02:38] <Ilmatic> Er...and where can I find that at?
[02:38] <think_> xubuntu is badass
[02:38] <isolat3dsh33p> Ilmatic: System>Admin>Synaptic Package Manager
[02:38] <shudder> think_: What do you like about it?
[02:38] <Ilmatic> Oh okay.
[02:38] <nu1> what is the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[02:38] <Ilmatic> Thanks isolated
[02:38] <think_> thunar is so fast
[02:38] <panos4ever> the x :P
[02:38] <shudder> think_: not trying to bash you or anything, just want another opinion
[02:39] <isolat3dsh33p> Ilmatic: np :)
[02:39] <oorah> nu1, gnome and xfce
[02:39] <jrib> nu1: xubuntu uses xfce by default, ubuntu uses gnome by default, both have the same repositories
[02:39] <shudder> nu1: Desktop Environments
[02:39] <oorah> ubuntu default desktop is gnome and xubuntu is xfce
[02:39] <shudder> nu1: apparently xubuntu is faster, but not that much
[02:39] <oorah> i prefer xfce
[02:39] <shudder> oorah: LXDE ftw :)
[02:39] <iflema>  nu1: xubuntu has a light weight window manager... good for lower spec coms...
[02:39] <oorah> its much better for multi-tasking from my experience
[02:39] <think_> the only problem is remote filesystems on xfce im not sure how to conf
[02:39] <oorah> lxde doesn't feel complete
[02:39] <shudder> oorah: its buggy as hell
[02:40] <shudder> oorah: but I love finding solutions to stuff
[02:40] <mazda01> shudder, what do you think?
[02:40] <Ilmatic> Goddamnit.
[02:40] <oorah> i wanna try alinux, looks pretty
[02:40] <Ilmatic> Even that won't work now.
[02:40] <Ilmatic> Ubuntu just stalls.
[02:40] <Ilmatic> ughhh
[02:40] <jiohdi> you can install gnome on xubuntu and make it into ubuntu
[02:40] <FloodBot4> Ilmatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <shudder> mazda01: hold on let me read it again
[02:41] <Soliloquial> fluxbox on ubuntu would probably be better for lighter weight systems than xubuntu IMO
[02:41] <jiohdi> openbox too
[02:41] <BlackCow> has anyone ever had a stick of RAM just go... bad after working fine for over a year?
[02:41] <shudder> mazda01: I would just backup all the files you want to keep to your USB, including your list of installed packages
[02:41] <coolman_007> hi all
[02:41] <think_> Anyone know about opening remote filesystems on xfce (file transfer ETC)
[02:41] <shudder> mazda01: like back up all your config and stuff
[02:41] <shudder> mazda01: and then reinstall
[02:42] <jiohdi> blackcow, I had one that had pins distingrate
[02:42] <coolman_007> any graphical editor for grub 1.97 on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[02:42] <shudder> mazda01: I'm sorry but I'm not really an expert
[02:42] <BlackCow> ive been trying to figure out whats wrong with my computer and i finally narrowed it down to a stick of RAM causing it, some im running on one gig now
[02:42] <BlackCow> the pins looked fine though
[02:42] <shudder> think_: through what protocol?
[02:42] <think_> ssh
[02:42] <shudder> think_: I would look up scp
[02:42] <nu1> hello, I need some help. How can I get a network hdd working on eth0 and a wireless connection on wlan0. I already installed firestarter but dont know what else to do, I know I need to modify one file and add some stuff, but I am new on this :(
[02:43] <mazda01> shudder, well the thing is besides the entire /home/ and /usr/local/bin/, i don't exactly what I have all changed besides what I mentioned. which is why i want to back up entire folders like /etc/ and just overright the ones that were installed after using the aptoncd to install all matching programs. make sense right?
[02:43] <BlackCow> very odd, but at least it works now, gnome was throwing a hissy fit, buttons were disapearing, i was getting freaky errors, the windows partition just crashed when you tried to log in lol
[02:43] <euxneks> hello, I'm attempting to get an xorg module loaded. How do I tell if Xorg has loaded the module properly or not?
[02:43] <coolman_007> any graphical editor for grub 1.97 on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[02:43] <Soliloquial> strangely, one of my slots made every stick of ram that went in it go bad...i lost two sticks this way
[02:43] <oorah> anyone with a netbook thats having hardware nightmares i much recommend the 10.04 alpha, its very stable and hardware friendly
[02:43] <think_> hey thank ill check it out
[02:43] <shudder> mazda01: I know what you mean but I just don't know how to do it perfectly
[02:43] <mazda01> ne1 else have experience wanting to keep all configuration files and customizations from one install and put them in a new FRESH install? procedure used please?
[02:43] <iflema> BlackCow: the ubuntu live cd's have a memory tester on the boot menu..
[02:43] <shudder> mazda01: at best its going to be patchy
[02:43] <isolat3dsh33p> coolman_007: It's suppose to be grub2 :/
[02:44] <coolman_007> yeah its a headace
[02:44] <shudder> Ok, can I actually get a poll on what people think of grub 2?
[02:44] <mazda01> shudder, yeah. that's what I am afraid of. im trying to get away from my patchy upgraded all the way from hardy version,
[02:44] <Jeruvy> !poll | shudder
[02:44] <BlackCow> yeah memtest actually crashed, but then i tested each stick individually and it didnt show errors
[02:44] <shudder> oops, sorry
[02:45] <BlackCow> in the same port to, so i dont think the specific bus is bad
[02:45] <isolat3dsh33p> coolman_007: Just update-grub, it should list all OSs in your computer. :/
[02:45] <Jeruvy> shudder: no harm done.
[02:45] <coolman_007> is there any way to uninstall grub 2 and install old grub ?
[02:45] <iflema> BlackCow: i once had a similar problem... i now goota avoid one of the slots on my motherboard.... you got more than two slots for ya ram... i assume no.
[02:45] <BlackCow> diagnosing a computer problem when you have no idea what possibly went wrong really sucks lol
[02:45] <coolman_007> thanks isolated ive tried all that.....
[02:46] <ubuntu> shudder, im now in the usb install on the other machine I own at my workstation. I have 1 monitor, 1 keyboard, 1 mouse through KVM for my main ubuntu hdd install and now my usb install.
[02:46] <BlackCow> hmm, maybe i should try with to sticks and avoid the busses i normally use, i have 4 slots
[02:46] <isolat3dsh33p> coolman_007: Not working?
[02:46] <ubuntu> shudder, im also known as mazda01
[02:46] <shudder> ubuntu: ok
[02:46] <coolman_007> nope........
[02:46] <coolman_007> its erased my gnu hurd
[02:46] <BlackCow> so from what you guys are telling me its not uncommon for a bus to go bad yeah?
[02:46] <shudder> ubuntu: I'm not going to lie, I have no clue what you should back up
[02:46] <isolat3dsh33p> coolman_007: Ouch...
[02:46] <iflema> BlackCow: its not over yet....
[02:47] <shudder> ubuntu: try making a post in the forum
[02:47] <shudder> ubuntu: I think you will get a much more concrete answer :)
[02:47] <ubuntu> shudder, i have another issue at hand. before I shut the usb stick down last time I used Envyg or whatever to isntall the nvidia driver for my nvidia 6200 card and it failed to load it said. so I have to solve that first
[02:47] <ubuntu> shudder, ok, will do on the post thing.
[02:47] <iflema> BlackCow: don't know about that... but i got one.
[02:47] <shudder> ubuntu: alright
[02:48] <shudder> ubuntu: what exactly are you seeing right now?
[02:48] <nu1> How can I get a network hdd working on eth0 and a wireless connection on wlan0 at the same time?. I already installed firestarter but dont know which file I have to modify and what do I need to write. Anyone could help me?
[02:48] <coolman_007> can i uninstall this grub 1.97 ?
[02:48] <coolman_007> and install old grub or lilo ?
[02:48] <shudder> ubuntu: just a smaller resolution on your screen?
[02:48] <riso> please help my lostirc isnt working
[02:49] <riso> my Lostirc keeps disconnecting me
[02:49] <ubuntu> shudder, im in a low graphics mode probably just using vesa.  it looks great still i will admit but I know I can run compiz with my nvidia card so I wanted to install the nvidia prop drivers. currently synaptic shows nvidia-glx-185
[02:49] <shudder> hm
[02:50] <shudder> ubuntu: I've never really used compiz
[02:50] <jiohdi> if you are in low mode you cannot run compiz?
[02:50] <shudder> ubuntu: did you try to reinstall the correct driver?
[02:50] <Subbuteo> #ubuntu.it
[02:51] <hanasaki> why does NetworkManager require aspell and a lot of gnome?
[02:51] <ubuntu> shudder, the correct driver is installed. whats weird is that dmesg says this over and over: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.  and then this: NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
[02:51] <kermit> i installed a package, then removed it, but it's still listed in apt-cache pkgnames .. and when i try to reinstall it, not all the files are being installed, yet i dont get an error
[02:52] <pete__> I am running foobar2000 in wine and it does not show me cd drives, any tricks to enable them???
[02:52] <jeez1234> hi, can someone suggest a good rss reader for ubuntu?
[02:52] <ubuntu> shudder, not even, i still have a 1280x1024 res. it's awesome
[02:52] <blakkheim> pete__: /j #winehq
[02:52] <shudder> ubuntu: nicely done
[02:52] <blakkheim> jeez1234: raggle
[02:52] <iflema> coolman_007: are you familiar with workings of the old menu.lst
[02:52] <hanasaki> jeez1234:  the google one works for me
[02:52] <shudder> ubuntu: nothing sucks more than patching together a resolution
[02:53] <ubuntu> shudder, no, im not running the proprietary nvidia driver  that I want, it must have fallen back to the nv driver which is still decent but no where near the prop drivers
[02:53] <lakota> can anyone help with suspend and wake on 8.10?
[02:53] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: try aptitude purge <packagename>
[02:54] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: it's still in apt-cache pkgnames
[02:55] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: you mean apt-cache policy packagename?
[02:55] <shudder> ubuntu: I just checked out this on the forums, maybe explains the 'taint' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398803
[02:55] <ubuntu> shudder, oh my gosh!1 im such an idiot!! i forgot the other machine I own doesn't have the same card in it. it's got a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]. I feel so dumb right now. So nevermind about the driver issue
[02:56] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: apt-cache policy <packagename> should say « Installed: none »
[02:56] <shudder> alright
[02:56] <ubuntu> shudder, so the maqchine that i booted the usb stick in has a ATI 9800 pro. i wonder how the ati driver is with compiz?
[02:56] <bpkrutko> #bookz
[02:56] <lakota> what can cause ubuntu to loose function of touch pad and keyboard when trying to wake from suspend?
[02:56] <PC__> Hey peeps
[02:56] <shudder> I don't know for sure but I think ATI is a jerk with drivers
[02:56] <shudder> I will check your card though
[02:57] <PC__> okay my hard disk isnt failing
[02:57] <isolat3dsh33p> ubuntu: Don't install the one's in the Hardware Drivers. Install the ones from ATI website ;)
[02:57] <blakkheim> ati is the enemy of your freedom
[02:57] <shudder> ubuntu: here is another link from the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646954
[02:57] <shudder> blakkheim: NVIDIA ftw?
[02:58] <PC__> And ubuntu is saying i have a bad disk in plamsit i scanned my drive using seatools smart check
[02:58] <isolat3dsh33p> shudder: same with NVIDIA i guess
[02:58] <ubuntu> isolat3dsh33p, what's weird is that the hardware drivers doesn't even show any driver for me to use.
[02:58] <PC__> And it was
[02:58] <PC__> passed
[02:58] <PC__> all my test was passed
[02:58] <PC__> so dose it still mean my hard drive is failing?
[02:58] <isolat3dsh33p> ubuntu: I'm not sure about that, I don't use it anyway. It sucks and outdated. :/
[02:58] <shudder> isolat3dsh33p: I haven't used any major graphics card other than my chipsets
[02:59] <lakota> can anyone tell me what can cause ubuntu to loose function of touch pad and keyboard when trying to wake from suspend?
[02:59] <shudder> isolat3dsh33p: so I wouldn't really know
[02:59] <ubuntu> PC__, i have an old 2.5" 160gb sata drive that plamsit says is bad to. i was jsut about to run seatools on it also. what was the outcome for you?
[02:59] <isolat3dsh33p> shudder: Intel I assume. :/
[02:59] <shudder> isolat3dsh33p: Savage
[02:59] <PC__> The outh come was passed
[02:59] <cyberjorge> how do you check the system partitions?
[02:59] <FAJALOU> hey guys i need some help, i am trying to load something in wine and i get this:  http://pastebin.com/f13ec39bd  i realllly need to get this to work for a performance I am in.
[02:59] <iflema> lakota: momentarily or permanently/until reboot/poweroff ?
[02:59] <shudder> isolat3dsh33p: my friend had an intel, I had to patch together a solution with xrandr
[02:59] <blakkheim> cyberjorge: fdisk -l
[03:00] <isolat3dsh33p> shudder: they wont release the binaries source or information for their gc to the developers.
[03:00] <ubuntu> isolat3dsh33p, does the download from ati do all the work for me? setup xorg and what not?
[03:00] <blakkheim> FAJALOU: /j #winehq
[03:00] <tos__> Any ideas and help would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!   hi i am trying to make use of all my ips.... i have ubuntu-server installed with 1 NIC.. and im trying to get each ip on that NIC, but my router only allowd 1-ip per MAC, how can i make Virtual NIC's with different mac's ?
[03:00] <ubuntu> isolat3dsh33p, i have only worked with nvidia and using nvidia-setup is super easy.
[03:00] <FAJALOU> blakkheim: thanks
[03:00] <lakota> iflema,  only untill reboot. I have function of blue tooth mouse and can log out and reboot from the wake screen
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> the nvidia config tools could use some updateing. :) they got some quirks
[03:01] <PC__> Okay my connection sucks
[03:01] <isolat3dsh33p> ubuntu: Yes, should automatically configure. Just « sh installer_ati_name.run » in terminal :)
[03:01] <shudder> isolat3dsh33p: that probably explains a lot of the patchiness
[03:01] <cyberjorge> blakkheim: thanks a lot but how do I know the LVM partitions and the Physical ones?
[03:01] <ubuntu> isolat3dsh33p, have you heard of envyng? it says I can install ati driver 8.66 but ati website says it's 9.12 i think
[03:01] <ubuntu> isolat3dsh33p, run as root?
[03:01] <shudder> sudo
[03:01] <shudder> avoid running as root
[03:01] <shudder> same thingish
[03:01] <isolat3dsh33p> ubuntu: ofcourse :)
[03:02] <PC__> ubuntu, the outcome was passed
[03:02] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: yes, it says Installed: (none)
[03:02] <PC__> alll the tests was passed
[03:02] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: but pkgnames still lists it
[03:02] <PC__> i had m ydrive for 5 years and no errors
[03:02] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: It's still in the package list since it's still in the repo.
[03:02] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: and it must be half-installed somehow because a reinstall doesnt work, but the first install did work
[03:02] <shudder> PC__: same here, never had any issues
[03:02] <iflema> lakota: do you know what sort of computer you have... the model? laptop? maybe google some keywords find results of people with similar issues/solutions.
[03:02] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: the what? i did clean, autoclean.. and that doesnt cause it to stay listed for other things once i remove them.
[03:03] <PC__> Guys this dude posted the bug is still around
[03:03] <iflema> lakota: thats a good start.... if ya havnt already that is...
[03:04] <Joeseph> I'm trying to share my wireless connection with an adjacent computer using an ethernet cord with Firestarter.  However, it's telling me that my device "eth0 is not ready."  It's plugged into both computers... What else does it need?
[03:04] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: I'm not sure then. Repo=repostitory btw.
[03:04] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: It is plugged in directly from one computer to another or through a hub or something like that ?
[03:04] <lakota> iflema,  I tried use google to find any info but not much luck, it is an hp special edition L2000 lance armstrong signature laptop
[03:05] <ubuntu> uh oh, i just ran a sudo aptitude install aptoncd and it stated that it was going to remove dkms{u} fakeroot{u} libmikmod2{u} libsdl-image1.2{u} libsdl-mixer1.2{u} libsdl-ttf2.0-0{u}
[03:05] <ubuntu>   libsmpeg0{u} patch{u}
[03:05] <ubuntu>   and I quick ly hit Y because i didn't read. hopefully that fakeroot and whatnot wasn't used for my usb install!!!
[03:05] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: Yes.  It's plugged directly into both of the computers ethernet cards.
[03:05] <shudder> ubuntu: Did you compile your own kernel?
[03:05] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Did you use a crossover cable ?
[03:05] <yi_> wow are you people already good with ubuntuÉ
[03:06]  * munz yawns
[03:06] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: I don't think so.  Just an ethernet cable.
[03:06] <PC__> Gusy i found the fix to this bug
[03:06] <shudder> you need a crossover cable to directly connect 2 computers
[03:06] <PC__> GUYS I FOUND A FIX can i post a link?
[03:06] <PC__> http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[03:06] <ubuntu> shudder, no, i used the pendrivelinux thingy and the karmic iso to create the 4gb casper-rw image for the usb install
[03:06] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Well, you must use a crossover cable to connect one computer to another.  It is not necessary if you pass through a hub or a switch.
[03:07] <lakota> iflema, some times it comes up fine and I can type password in and it is ok but some times it takes really long time for log in screen to show up and then touch pad and keyboard are non responsive and I have to use blue tooth mouse to restart the machine and then it works ok
[03:07] <PC__> Wait i have another question
[03:07] <shudder> ubuntu: im not sure then. Fakeroot will most likely have been used for your usb install then, but I think just to install it
[03:07] <PC__> I have a extra ide hard drive
[03:07] <PC__> and my mother board\
[03:07] <dim3000> How come when using ALSA in lmms the sound is messed up?
[03:07] <PC__> supportd boyth i de and sata
[03:08] <PC__> my main drive now is sata
[03:08] <ubuntu> shudder, i also just read this: This package contains the framework for the Dynamic Kernel Module Support (DKMS) method for installing and updating kernel modules.   and i accidentally removed the dkms paCKAGE
[03:08] <PC__> if i  cahnge the dirve to ide will any thing abd happen?
[03:08] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "crossover cable."  I have one ethernet cord hooked directly into my two computers.
[03:08] <iflema> Lakota: it appears it has worked in the past... and possible broke again ????
[03:08] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Was it always hooked in like this ?
[03:09] <nightsjammies> quick question..I'm installing eeebuntu 3.0 onto a Dell Inspiron B130. The notification area isn't showing up, even though I know it's there. How do I make it visible again?
[03:09] <shudder> ubuntu: just write down a list of what was removed
[03:09] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Or did you just do that setup.
[03:09] <ubuntu> shudder, im just going to reinstall all those packages that were removed
[03:09] <shudder> if stuff starts failng, just reinstall those
[03:09] <iflema> Lakota: i mean in previous versions of ubuntu..
[03:09] <shudder> ubuntu: alright
[03:09] <nu1> How can I get a network hdd working on eth0 and a wireless connection on wlan0 at the same time?. I already installed firestarter but dont know which file I have to modify and what do I need to write. Anyone could help me?
[03:09] <PC__> No one is evening listening to me
[03:09] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: I've had this setup before, but I recently re-set it up.  I'm giving some different settings a try right now.
[03:09] <lakota> iflema,  it only happens about every 2nd or 3rd time I close lid and suspend laptop. so it is not a constant thing
[03:10] <ubuntu> shudder, so I am installing the ati driver now using envyng, then going to install packagaes back in, then run aptoncd, tehn restart the usb install
[03:10] <lakota> I am running ubuntu 8.10
[03:10] <shudder> PC__, if you change the HDD to IDE, there will a slight decrease in performance, and you may need to change up GRUB
[03:10] <PC__> How?
[03:10] <iflema> lakota: arghh ok
[03:10] <lakota> iflema,  if I run 9.04 or 9.10 I can not suspend or wake at all
[03:10] <shudder> as for grub, I am unsure
[03:10] <LLStarks> hey doctormo. sup.
[03:10] <ubuntu> shudder, didn't realize that the default name xchat gave me for my usb isntall was ubuntu, so almost everyones posts are red like they are for me. HA HA
[03:11] <PC__> shudder, how?
[03:11] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Oh okay, eh, was it working before, because it may be the problem.  Here  is the documentation for the crossover cable : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[03:11] <iflema> lakota: tears
[03:11] <shudder> Do you want to replace your HDD, or just add another one in?
[03:11] <nightsjammies> quick question..I'm installing eeebuntu 3.0 onto a Dell Inspiron B130. The notification area isn't showing up, even though I know it's there. How do I make it visible again?
[03:11] <shudder> ubuntu: yeah
[03:11] <iflema> Lakota: ya can...
[03:12] <shudder> PC__:Do you want to replace your HDD, or just add another one in?
[03:12] <neezer> I made a bootable USB with 9.10 on it. if I boot into it, and install it on my usb drive, will I have an ubuntu install that I can boot into and change on other computers?
[03:12] <iflema> Lakota: configure it so when the lid shuts it does nothing but bank screen (save battery) and turn of auto suspend and hibernate
[03:13] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: Yes it's a cross-over cable... I'll try some more trouble-shooting after I try some stuff...
[03:13] <neezer> will it mess with my current install on my laptop? will it screw up grub?
[03:13] <shudder> neezer: yes, as long as they support USB bootup
[03:13] <faileas> neezer: how are you planning on installing it? unetbootin, or a 'real' install?
[03:13] <iflema> Lakota: may not be all that practical.... but 9.10
[03:13] <Gateway> hello, please can somebody explain to me what number to give to ( find -size .. -print ) in order to get all files that have more thank 150 kb
[03:13] <DarkMasterHalo> Joeseph: Okay, sorry for not being able to help you :( but feel free to ask your question again.  Maybe somebody will have knowledge on this matter.
[03:14] <BigMike1> yo Dr_Willis
[03:14] <Gateway> or how to calculate it :)
[03:14] <neezer> faileas: I'm not sure what you mean by 'real' install...I would boot from the drive and click install ubuntu. I don't know what unetbootin is.
[03:14] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: Yeah, I'm not doing trying.  Thanks though
[03:15] <Joeseph> DarkMasterHalo: Errr.  *done (not doing)
[03:15] <faileas> neezer: unetbootin is the 'recommended' way to do a USB install - it uses an image of an iso, and a file to store the data you need between installs. its easier and safer, especially for a sub 4 gb drive
[03:15] <Sickki_> huooh
[03:15] <aletheia8556> can anybody help me with an unresolved screen resolution problem??
[03:15] <lakota> iflema,  yeah I had it for a while set to shut down when lid closed. I do like 9.10 but I have legacy ati card and can not install ati driver on 9.10 or it crashes system
[03:15] <faileas> for a 'real' install, you'd need to be careful where you install teh bootloader, and you might have more drive wear
[03:15] <shudder> aletheia8556: I can try
[03:16] <aletheia8556> alright let me give you some details real quick
[03:16] <FireFighter> Hey, I rebooted my system and now all of my folders (usually found in home - such as documents, music) are on my desktop. I can't move them, but if I delete them they delete their copies in home as well.
[03:16] <jrib> Gateway: what isn't clear to you exactly?
[03:16] <okan_> nigtsjammies
[03:16] <okan_> cd ~
[03:16] <okan_> rm -rf .gnome* .gconf*
[03:16] <neezer> faileas: so is that better than using the built in app on ubuntu? by drive is only 4GB.
[03:16] <faileas> neezer: er.. wait. i got my wires crossed. you should be using the liveusb tool.. not unetbootin
[03:16] <nightsjammies> okay, can someone please help me with my question..
[03:16] <faileas> neezer: ignore anything i said about unetbootin ><
[03:16] <neezer> ok
[03:16] <nightsjammies> um..what okan?
[03:16] <faileas> neezer: the usb tool should be safe, and you can use it like a normal install
[03:17] <aletheia8556> i have an old laptop and in ubuntu 9.04 a guy helped me edit the xorg.conf file to change the screen res and it worked.  but now in karmic (9.10) i can get to anything that resembles that xorg.conf file
[03:17] <okan_> you cant use notif are r,ght?
[03:17] <nightsjammies> do you mean in the terminal?
[03:17] <aletheia8556> a person tried to help me earlier and the told me to type in mlocate -i xorg.conf
[03:17] <okan_> yes
[03:17] <jrib> okan_: please explain to people the consequences of those commands before recommending them
[03:17] <nomnex> could use a bit of advice. is there a items limit per folder, e.g. videos, photos. I ask the question because Windoze showed signs of weakness for folders with 100 over thumnails. Linux seems more robust for the matter, but advice is welcome.
[03:17] <okan_> ok jrib
[03:17] <FireFighter> Hey, I rebooted my system and now all of my folders (usually found in home - such as documents, music) are on my desktop. I can't move them, but if I delete them they delete their copies in home as well.
[03:17] <shudder> aletheia8556: have you generated a xorg.conf file?
[03:17] <aletheia8556> i found that file but it is just two odd looking symbols and the rest of it is blank
[03:17] <Gateway> jrib, let's get an example... we would like to fiind files that exceed 150 kb ( find -type f -a -size +... -print )
[03:17] <aletheia8556> no i don't know how
[03:17] <shudder> aletheia8556: alright
[03:18] <shudder> aletheia8556: here is what I need you to do
[03:18] <nightsjammies> Okay. I'm still running it as the live cd right now.
[03:18] <nightsjammies> Don't know if that will work
[03:18] <shudder> aletheia8556: you may want to write this down
[03:18] <Out_Cold> when does tmp files get deleted?
[03:18] <aletheia8556> ok
[03:18] <shudder> aletheia8556: make sure you get a list of the entire instructions first
[03:18] <okan_> hey nightjammies
[03:18] <shudder> aletheia8556: 1) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:18] <nightsjammies> I'm here
[03:18] <okan_> you cant use notification are right
[03:19] <okan_> ?
[03:19] <shudder> aletheia8556: in a terminal
[03:19] <jrib> Gateway: did you read the -size section of « man find » ?  It explains all the possible suffixes.  Shouldn't "+150k" be what you want according to that section?
[03:19] <iflema> Lakota: hmm
[03:19] <shudder> aletheia8556: this will kill all of your graphics, and leave you at a terminal, which will ask you to login
[03:19] <shudder> aletheia8556: type your username and password
[03:19] <aletheia8556> ok
[03:19] <ubuntu> faileas, i used pendrivelinux and that worked awesome. made a 4gb casper-rw image and it works really speedy!@
[03:19] <nightsjammies> I have the notification area working. It's just invisible.
[03:19] <shudder> aletheia8556: you will login, and be left at a prompt
[03:19] <shudder> aletheia8556: now, type sudo X -configure
[03:19] <Serpher> Is there any way to bypass user premissions?
[03:19] <jrib> Serpher: why...?
[03:19] <nightsjammies> I ran into this one other time, but don't how I solved it
[03:19] <Out_Cold> Serpher, using sudo
[03:20] <faileas> ubuntu: i actually have a system that uses a full install on a thumbdrive. not sure why ;p
[03:20] <Ilmatic> Hey, can I run 9.10 on a intel mac?
[03:20] <FireFighter> Hey, I rebooted my system and now all of my folders (usually found in home - such as documents, music) are on my desktop. I can't move them, but if I delete them they delete their copies in home as well.
[03:20] <shudder> aletheia8556: this will generate a xorg.conf.new file in your home folder
[03:20] <jrib> Ilmatic: of course
[03:20] <Gateway> jrib, I've already read it but I didn't find an explation to what I'm looking for... because it depends on the number of bytes in 1 " cylindre "
[03:20] <Gateway> :s
[03:20] <shudder> aletheia8556: now just type: sudo /etc/initld/gdm start
[03:20] <Serpher> I have an old computer here with Ubuntu on here and I want to see what files are on here. I don't know the root password and I want to see if I can get nito his home folder.
[03:20] <Ilmatic> Oh okay cool.
[03:20] <joshua____> what does X -configure do?
[03:20] <lakota> I have ran memory test on my two 512 sticks and found no errors but I still wonder if memory going bad can cause wake to freeze touch pad and keyboard
[03:20] <shudder> aletheia8556: this will bring your graphics back up
[03:20] <Ilmatic> Some moron on yahoo answers told me otherwise.
[03:20] <spike_> serpher: plug it into another system
[03:20] <shudder> aletheia8556: now you can just log in as usual
[03:20] <Serpher> shudder: If it's 9.10 it's sudo start gdm
[03:21] <shudder> on mine it is like I posted
[03:21] <shudder> it is 9.10
[03:21] <jrib> Serpher: erm, so you can't even log in then?
[03:21] <Out_Cold> Serpher, init.d still works
[03:21] <aletheia8556> u still there
[03:21] <Serpher> spike: Plug it into another system? Networking them will cause the premissions to die off?
[03:21] <shudder> aletheia8556: yes
[03:21] <okan_> nightjammies you should  yhis command because this command will get at the beginnig your gnome GDM
[03:21] <Serpher> jrip: There's a guest account he had on here
[03:21] <nightsjammies> ...huh?
[03:21] <Serpher> No pw
[03:21] <shudder> aletheia8556: do all of what I told you, and then talk to me
[03:21] <okan_> so after format
[03:22] <nightsjammies> The notification area is there. It's just invisible. How do I make it visible?
[03:22] <spike_> serpher: take the disk out and mount it from another box capable of reading the file system
[03:22] <spike_> or use a boot cd
[03:22] <jrib> Ilmatic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[03:22] <Serpher> But the file premission for the folder will still be 700
[03:22] <jrib> Serpher: just load a live cd and mount the partition
[03:22] <biker> I installed compiz, but when the pc starts, the fusion-icon is loaded but the effects dont work until i right-click the icon and click on "reload window manager" any ideas?? :)
[03:22] <lakota> if a memory test finds no errors can memory still be going bad?
[03:22] <Ilmatic> Hey is this the right code to open up windows manager in metacity: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &
[03:22] <Ilmatic> ?
[03:22] <Out_Cold> Serpher, but on a live cd you have sudo rights
[03:23] <okan_> you remove .gnome* and .gconf* nightjammies
[03:23] <jMyles> how do I run pulseaudio mixer from the terminal?
[03:23] <shudder> aletheia8556: once you have done all that, just talk to me and we can proceed from there
[03:23] <okan_> your problem will solve
[03:23] <okan_> in his way
[03:23] <okan_> this
[03:23] <neezer> Faileas: I'm a little confused...If I just install it on the drive from the bootable USB drive will I be ok? or will it mess with me booting into my laptop without the usb drive plugged in?
[03:23] <ubuntu> Serpher, reset sudo password here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[03:23] <faileas> neezer: what do you want to do?
[03:23] <Serpher> Ok thanks
[03:24] <Out_Cold> neezer, if grub is installed on the laptop it'll mess your boot process
[03:24] <faileas> you want to use the USB key to install ubuntu to the laptop?
[03:24] <jrib> Gatewayy: I don't see that language in my man page
[03:24] <nightsjammies> Okan, there's a simpler way. I just remember what it is..
[03:24] <sporedi> how do i monitor ip network to check ipsec vpn ---ip xfrm monitor (to use this do i require any configuration before using this command)
[03:24] <Ilmatic> Guyssss..is this the right code?
[03:24] <Ilmatic> DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &
[03:24] <neezer> that is what I figured...I want a mobile ubuntu that I can use on other computers.
[03:24] <shudder> aletheia8556: are you still here?
[03:24] <boxxy_> Ilmatic: try it and see
[03:24] <nightsjammies> besides, I don't think I can run those commands in live cd mode
[03:24] <neezer> I already have ubuntu on my laptop.
[03:24] <okan_> ok nightjammies give me a second
[03:24] <lakota> anyone know if a memory test finds no errors can memory still be going bad?
[03:25] <Ilmatic> What if I break ubuntu?
[03:25] <Ilmatic> lol
[03:25] <neezer> I want to be able to boot into a full version of ubuntu on the usb drive.
[03:25] <boxxy_> u wont
[03:25] <faileas> neezer: oh, don't install. just boot into to the USB key and use it as per normal
[03:25] <Out_Cold> neezer, you want to use a casper loaded usb..
[03:25] <boxxy_> flooders are back? :/
[03:25] <Flare-Laptop> oh boy
[03:25] <Out_Cold> not for long
[03:25] <pilif12p> heh
[03:26] <pilif12p> Funny, all the bots are needed for this
[03:26] <Out_Cold> !usb > neezer: read the link for what you want
[03:26] <Out_Cold> no kidding
[03:26] <okan_> nightjammies why are you in live cd?could you tell me?
[03:26] <Ilmatic> Do they use scripts to flood irc rooms?
[03:26] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[03:26] <faileas> lol
[03:27] <shudder> well then
[03:27] <faileas> wasn't one of the reasons they banned mibbit trolls? these guys seem to be using the qwebirc interface >_>
[03:27] <neezer> what is !usb
[03:27] <nightsjammies> because I want to make sure that the distro works with this particular laptop.
[03:27] <lakota> anyone know if a memory test finds no errors can memory still be going bad? maybe bad memory can cause wake to freeze touch pad and keyboard in ubuntu?
[03:27] <Ilmatic> Any ubuntu guru in here?
[03:27] <shudder> !clone
[03:27] <Ilmatic> I need help..
[03:28] <faileas> neezer: in short, the usb key WILL do what you want, without the need to install, as long as you select it as the boot
[03:28] <EastDallas> !usb
[03:28] <Flare-Laptop> Ilmatic: Ask away
[03:28] <jrib> Ilmatic: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[03:28] <Out_Cold> !usb > neezer: read the link for what you want
[03:28] <faileas> Ilmatic: be specific and someone might help
[03:28] <biker> hi :) I installed compiz, but when the pc starts, the fusion-icon is loaded but the effects dont work until i right-click the icon and click on "reload window manager" any ideas?? :)
[03:28] <shudder> !usb
[03:28] <DarkMasterHalo> Nah, they can use a CTP request to probe information on all users in the room, happened to me one by mistake and got banned ... :)
[03:28] <Ilmatic> Okay. I don't see a title bar for any application
[03:28] <Out_Cold> stupid bot is lagging hard lol
[03:28] <faileas> Ilmatic: using compiz?
[03:28] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[03:28] <Ilmatic> I have no idea.
[03:28] <Ilmatic> I'm new to ubuntu.
[03:29] <faileas> hm. on a fresh install?
[03:29] <etnos> Hello everyone! I have a question ... I need to install mcamip on ubuntu but it's asking me for some dependencies which I cannot find: libmath libjpeg X Xlib LibXt anyone know how to get these>
[03:29] <okan_> hmm you hvent got the distro in your laptop at the moment rigt?
[03:29] <ubuntu> neezer, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[03:29] <okan_> nightjammies
[03:29] <Ilmatic> Wow...I had no idea the room was still being flooded..
[03:29] <neezer> thanks ubuntu
[03:29] <Ilmatic> So yeah folks, any solutions?
[03:30] <ubuntu> neezer, currently running a 4gb casper-rw on a 16 verbatim store n go usb stick. it's awesome!
[03:30] <Ilmatic> I've already asked on the forum.
[03:30] <Ilmatic> Only one person responded.
[03:30] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[03:30] <Out_Cold> neezer.... use this command in the chat room... /msg ubottu !usb
[03:30] <ubuntu> neezer, trying to figure out how to get all my customizations that I did with my other dekstop ubuntu into the new usb stick install,
[03:30] <nightsjammies> I do. On a flashdrive.
[03:30] <faileas> ubuntu: i'm running a 'real' instrall on a 4gb disk. i'm hardly noticing its not a hdd install ;p
[03:30] <lakota> anyone know if a memory test finds no errors can memory still be going bad? maybe bad memory can cause wake to freeze touch pad and keyboard in ubuntu? it is a random event not reoccurring when it freezes is why I am asking if it is bad memory
[03:30] <faileas> ubuntu: automatically or manually?
[03:30] <ubuntu> Ilmatic, yes
[03:31] <jrib> !repeat | lakota, you might try ##hardware
[03:31] <okan_> ok nightjammies i found different solution
[03:31] <Ilmatic> Yes, what?
[03:31] <okan_> here
[03:31] <nightsjammies> OKay.
[03:31] <Out_Cold> faileas, only problem is that it only works on that sys... a casper drive will work on almost anything
[03:31] <EastDallas> etnos: have u searched in synaptic?
[03:31] <okan_> enter the tty1 using ctrl+alt+f1
[03:32] <okan_> not now
[03:32] <faileas> Out_Cold: yeah, i suppose so. I have other reasons for taking that route - i wanted a very specific setup, more limited than any of the standard ubuntu distros
[03:32] <okan_> wait
[03:32] <okan_> :)
[03:32] <etnos> EastDallas: yup
[03:32] <Ilmatic> My problem is quite simple. The title bar just isn't showing. I need a command line that will work in metacity to open up windows manager.
[03:32] <ubuntu> etnos, they are just normally named different in ubuntu, have you enabled all repos in synaptic? then just do a search for math, jpeg, etc etc. Also, that's funny, it says it needs X, you should already haev X installed if you're running from a gui and not a command line
[03:32] <Flare-Laptop> Ilmatic: metacity --replace
[03:32] <Out_Cold> faileas, we all want our own custom system or else we'd use windows :p
[03:32] <ubuntu> faileas, so no casper-rw image?
[03:32] <faileas> Out_Cold: its an ugly system. i have some self compiled stuff, and a lucid deb ;p
[03:32] <EastDallas> etnos: I'm finding them all there
[03:33] <faileas> ubuntu: nope. its a actual ext4 partition, with a swap file instead of a swap drive
[03:33] <Ilmatic> Just tried it.
[03:33] <JohninLex> has anyone else lost there else lost there number pad on ubuntu
[03:33] <Ilmatic> It says can't open x server
[03:33] <etnos> ubuntu EastDallas: how do you search synaptic?
[03:33] <nightsjammies> Okay. now how do I get out of it?
[03:33] <Out_Cold> i made a casper drive for a friend and it booted on his machine but i never had a chance to play with it
[03:33] <faileas> lockd: tried numlock?
[03:33] <faileas> the key
[03:33] <Flare-Laptop> Ilmatic: Your spposed to press alt+f2 then run that
[03:33] <ubuntu> etnos, the search box
[03:33] <Ilmatic> woops
[03:33] <Ilmatic> okay
[03:33] <etnos> ubuntu: not using gui
[03:33] <Ilmatic> one more time
[03:33] <Flare-Laptop> !enter
[03:33] <ubuntu> etnos, sudo aptitude search math
[03:34] <lakota> jrib,  ok thanks :)
[03:34] <ubuntu> etnos, sudo aptitude search foo
[03:34] <EastDallas> etnos: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manger.  Then just type the name of the package into the box at the top
[03:34] <gnaskor_> hey
[03:34] <gnaskor_> mam pytanie
[03:34] <Ilmatic> once again
[03:34] <Ilmatic> it says the same thing
[03:34] <Ilmatic> ughh
[03:34] <Ilmatic> this is frustrating
[03:34] <FloodBot3> Ilmatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Ilmatic> What the hell..how am I flooding?
[03:34] <gnaskor_> jak wyzucic dwie opcje wyboru z gruba
[03:34] <aletheia8556> ok then what
[03:34] <aletheia8556> do you want me to do that now?
[03:34] <Ilmatic> that's just how fast i type..
[03:35] <JohninLex> Ilmatic,  that is a bot over look it
[03:35] <jrib> Ilmatic: read the last thing ubottu said
[03:35] <CShadowRun> !enter | Ilmatic
[03:35] <DarkMasterHalo> Ilmatic: It is just because you used enter as punctuation :P
[03:35] <etnos> ubuntu eastDallas: ok I see them now. Thank you
[03:35] <ubuntu> Ilmatic, by hitting enter after a few words, you;'re taking up the whole board. also, please don't swear. what do you need?
[03:35] <ubuntu> etnos, glad I could help
[03:35] <aletheia8556> ok
[03:35] <JohninLex> has anyone else lost there else lost there number pad on ubuntu, I have the fix if anyone needs it
[03:35] <ubuntu> gotta go, by yall
[03:36] <Ilmatic> Okay so when I put in the command line "metacity --replace" it says unable to open x server
[03:36] <Ilmatic> something along those lines
[03:36] <jrib> Ilmatic: "in the command line" is too vague
[03:36] <EastDallas> Ilmatic:  have you tried renaming the session file and logging out and back in?
[03:36] <iflema> Lakota: do you know if the legacy driver ya using is 8.25.18
[03:36] <bobbywilson0> when I try and run `X`it renders a blank screen instead of an X, startx works and there is no errors in the log. I can ctrl + alt + F2 back to tty2 with no problem too, and it is left at using /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration. any ideas?
[03:36] <Ilmatic> Dallas, that sounds a bit advances.
[03:36] <Ilmatic> *advanced
[03:36] <neezer> ubuntu: I found one for installing 8.04 that I think will work. It says I should disconnect any other drives to avoid screwing up the MBR. I can't really do that on a laptop.....
[03:37] <Out_Cold> neezer, just really pay attention when partitioning.. there is an option to do an advanced grub install
[03:37] <shudder> aletheia8556: sorry about that
[03:37] <lakota> iflema,  it is the one that ubuntu hardware finds and installs for me. not sure how to tell what ver. it is
[03:37] <shudder> aletheia8556: I am back now
[03:37] <faileas> bobbywilson0: ounds like you don't have a desktop manager running. try installing gdm/kdm/xdm and seeing if that lets you pick one
[03:37] <Out_Cold> if you don't select the usb you will fry your grub/mbr on the laptop
[03:38] <shudder> aletheia8556: alright, so if you did that correctly, you should have a xorg.conf.new file in your home directory
[03:38] <shudder> aletheia8556: now, if you type: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:38] <bobbywilson0> faileas: I do have a desktop manager, gnome, and it works fine, I just have overscan that I am trying to fix through positioning
[03:38] <neezer> so what are the options in advanced grub install?
[03:38] <shudder> aletheia8556: in a terminal of course
[03:38] <Out_Cold> neezer, where to install it and maybe grub boot options
[03:38] <shudder> aletheia8556: you will have set up your xorg.conf file
[03:39] <aletheia8556> yes i need to write all of this down real quick
[03:39] <aletheia8556> i will then do everything you said and i will come back and talk to you
[03:39] <shudder> aletheia8556: then just type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <neezer> ok....so I want a separate grub MBR on the usb drive too right?
[03:39] <shudder> aletheia8556: and you can edit it :)
[03:39] <iflema> Lakota: the system menu..   System / Administration / Hardware Drivers
[03:39] <lakota> iflema,  it is a ati 200m chip set.  I am wondering if maybe it could be memory related. maybe bad memory can cause it since it is random and not reoccurring
[03:39] <Out_Cold> neezer well that was for 8.xx not sure if it changed with grub2
[03:39] <Ilmatic> How to open windows manager without terminal?
[03:40] <Out_Cold> neezer, ideally yes.. then put usb to boot before hd
[03:40] <neezer> if I try this an screw things up can I use a live cd to repair my current grub?
[03:40] <neezer> my laptop has 9.04 on it.
[03:40] <Out_Cold> neezer, again ideally... but i haven't done much work with grub2
[03:41] <neezer> haha ok.
[03:41] <neezer> so it is a wait and see!!!
[03:41] <neezer> I love it.
[03:41] <Out_Cold> i know they got rid of the menu.list and lots of other changes
[03:41] <mouse-_> does anyone know when ubuntu 9.10 x64's firefox will be fixed to read homestarrunner ?
[03:41] <neezer> not sure if I am gonna do it tonight yet.
[03:41] <Out_Cold> i haven't had time to explore yet
[03:41] <lakota> iflema,  ATI/AMD proprietary fglrx graphics driver is all it says
[03:41] <Joeseph> O
[03:42] <neezer> I'm away from home and kind of need to be able to use my computer toinght.
[03:42] <EastDallas> ilmatic: alt + f2 then type metacity
[03:42] <Out_Cold> neezer, you want it specifically for laptop or just in general?? the persistent one works well
[03:42] <Out_Cold> maybe botty stopped lagging
[03:42] <Out_Cold> !usb > neezer
[03:42] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: click "Run"
[03:42] <neezer> in general....I want to be able to boot up into ubuntu on other computers.
[03:42] <shudder> !usb > shudder
[03:43] <Out_Cold> use the link then..
[03:43] <tos__> WHY is it so easy to find how to make A VIRTUAL network adapter in windows than Ubuntu!?!?
[03:43] <EastDallas> !usb | neezer
[03:43]  * tos__ pulling hair out
[03:43] <mouse-_> tos__: I'd like to watch homestarrunner without turning off compiz & holding down "shift" to click.  (it goes for various other flash as well)
[03:43] <Flare-Laptop> tos__: Use ifconfig add (I think)
[03:44] <Ilmatic> Same results.
[03:44] <mouse-_> ubuntu is great until the docs run out ;)
[03:44] <Ilmatic> I don't understand why this thing is acting up.
[03:44] <Ilmatic> Keeps on saying unable to open x server
[03:44] <Out_Cold> !bot | a good point for you guys needing help:
[03:44] <mouse-_> ilmatic, echo $DISPLAY
[03:44] <neezer> thanks for the links
[03:44] <Ilmatic> money sign too?
[03:44] <mouse-_> yeah
[03:44] <Ilmatic> okay
[03:45] <Ilmatic> ill give it a try
[03:45] <mouse-_> it'll either say ":0" or ":1" or ":14" or what not, or nothing.
[03:45] <Ilmatic> nothing
[03:45] <Ilmatic> ughhhh
[03:45] <mouse-_> thats why, then
[03:45] <Out_Cold> no screen defined
[03:45] <mouse-_> DISPLAY=:0 x-program
[03:45] <Chr1s> Hi folks, my squirrelMail can not send mail. it said:Bad sequence of commands
[03:45] <Chr1s> 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled. I am using PostFix + courier + mysql, anyone could tell me how to debug this?
[03:45] <tos__> ifconfig will not assign its own MAC address to the virtual nic
[03:46] <Ilmatic> Okay, I'll give that one a try.
[03:46] <BingOo> Hii room
[03:46] <BingOo> which tool is best for checking errors of hard disk ?
[03:46] <Ilmatic> What the heckk..it says command not found.
[03:47] <mouse-_> if the command is in your local directory, you'll need to DISPLAY=:0 ./x-program
[03:47] <Ilmatic> Okay.
[03:47] <Out_Cold> BingOo, fsck is a good one
[03:47] <mouse-_> fsck is the best one.
[03:47] <JoshDreamland> Is there a way to change the internal name of a TTF?
[03:47] <Chr1s> 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled. I am using PostFix + courier + mysql, anyone could tell me how to debug this?
[03:47] <Out_Cold> then i concur with mouse-_
[03:48] <Out_Cold> never tried any others
[03:48] <mouse-_> lol BingOo, boot up into single-user mode (or use a recovery cd) and run fsck on the drives you need.
[03:48] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: try hitting alt + f2 and typing metacity --replace
[03:48] <JoshDreamland> I would like to create a copy of Courier Pitch named Courier New, so my friends and I can use a single font between our operating systems.
[03:48] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: then reboot
[03:48] <Ilmatic> I've tried that command already Dallas and it says unable to open x server.
[03:49] <mouse-_> for some reason the shell you are opening isn't tied to your xserver.. dont know what to say without more info..
[03:49] <JoshDreamland> What's Ilmatic's problem?
[03:49] <aletheia85561> hey shudder i'm back and i followed your instructions
[03:49] <aletheia85561> what now
[03:49] <Ilmatic> Josh, I'm unable to see a title bar.
[03:50] <JoshDreamland> That would be expected if your X server won't open XD
[03:50] <JoshDreamland> Which title bar, specifically?
[03:50] <JoshDreamland> Or all of them?
[03:50] <Ilmatic> The one with the option to close or maximize a window.
[03:50] <BingOo> which tools are best for checking hard drive in ubuntu ?
[03:50] <EastDallas> JoshDreamland: all
[03:50] <Sensiva> Hello all, today I uninstalled Rhythmbox, then reinstalled it again, it doesn't open, clicking its launcher from apps menu doesn't do anything, same from terminal, even no error msgs, any ideas?
[03:50] <JoshDreamland> Have you changed your skin lately, and then deleted it or something?
[03:50] <Ilmatic> No sir.
[03:50] <Flare-Laptop> Sensiva: Look in the tray
[03:50] <JoshDreamland> what's it show your skin as?
[03:51] <Out_Cold> BingOo, fsck
[03:51] <Ilmatic> That blue one.
[03:51] <Ilmatic> ughh I forget
[03:51] <jm2> Bing0o,  man fsck
[03:51] <Sensiva> Flare-Laptop nothing, it doesn't showup in 'ps -A'
[03:51] <mouse-_> well, this channel is very busy ;)
[03:51] <JoshDreamland> Clearlooks?
[03:51] <BingOo> thanks
[03:51] <Ilmatic> mmhmm
[03:51] <aletheia85561> shudder are u there
[03:51] <JoshDreamland> Swap it to human for a minute and tell me what happens
[03:51] <Ilmatic> K.
[03:51] <Out_Cold> aletheia85561, what was your issue and what did you do?
[03:52] <Flare-Laptop> Sensiva: Then try another Audio Player
[03:52] <Sensiva> ty :D
[03:52] <Beastmode> hey guys im having a problem with ftping in ubuntu(using fireftp in firefox. It works fine on windows. I am trying to ftp to my xbox1 (not360). I keep getting error "pasv is not implemented" if i uncheck use pasv then i get "502 noop is not implemented". It works fine in windows using FlashFXP
[03:52] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: you could try installing fusion-icon then make sure you are using the correct window manager and decorator by right clickng the icon
[03:52] <aletheia85561> i created a new xorg.conf file in 9.10 and now i am trying to access it so i can add a new screen resolution setting for my laptop monitor
[03:52] <mod3st> How do I increase the maximum number of loop devices?  I'm using /dev/loop0 to /dev/loop7 and I need more.
[03:53] <Out_Cold> Beastmode, try the built in ftp in the places menu or proftpd
[03:53] <Ilmatic> Damn it.
[03:53] <Ilmatic> Nothing still.
[03:53] <Ilmatic> Skin changed.
[03:53] <Ilmatic> Everything else is still the same.
[03:53] <Out_Cold> does xorg still work in 9.10?
[03:53] <JoshDreamland> So it changes looks, but still lacks button?
[03:53] <Flare-Laptop> !ohmy | Ilmatic
[03:53] <Out_Cold> **.conf?
[03:53] <Ilmatic> yes sir.
[03:53] <aletheia85561> r u talking to me??
[03:54] <shudder> aletheia8556: hello again
[03:54] <JoshDreamland> That's silly. XD Give me a minute to check out some other settings. Have you played with any?
[03:54] <Out_Cold> aletheia85561, not specifically
[03:54] <shudder> aletheia8556: I keep missing your posts
[03:54] <Beastmode> Out_Cold: that works fine. the built in one. thanks
[03:54] <aletheia85561> hey shudder i did what you said, now what
[03:54] <Ilmatic> Dallas can I run that in metacity?
[03:54] <Ilmatic> Terminal isn't working for me/
[03:54] <shudder> Did you save your old xorg.conf file?
[03:54] <shudder> from your other desktop
[03:54] <aletheia85561> no
[03:54] <shudder> alright
[03:54] <Out_Cold> Beastmode, sounds like it was an issue with the app then ;)
[03:54] <shudder> what resolution are you running right now?
[03:55] <aletheia85561> 800x600
[03:55] <Flare-Laptop> !who | shudder
[03:55] <kenshin> are laptops with ubuntu cheap?
[03:55] <shudder> Flare-laptop sorry
[03:55] <Flare-Laptop> shudder: No problem
[03:55] <EastDallas> ilmatic: from a command prompt sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[03:55] <shudder> aletheia8556: ok
[03:55] <Out_Cold> kenshin, depends on who's selling it
[03:55] <shudder> aletheia8556: now I can temp fix this for you, but I don't know how to make it permanent
[03:55] <aletheia85561> ok
[03:55] <shudder> aletheia8556: I am hoping someone else can help you with that
[03:55] <shudder> aletheia8556: we need to use the terminal now
[03:56] <shudder> aletheia8556: so open it up
[03:56] <kenshin> Out_Cold, whos selling it?
[03:56] <Ilmatic> Thanks Dallas.
[03:56] <Ilmatic> I'll be sure to give this one a try.
[03:56] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: Did this problem come about after reboot? Or after sleep? Or spontaneously?
[03:56] <aletheia85561> i'm there
[03:56] <kenshin> Out_Cold, i want a cheap laptop , i live in the UK
[03:56] <shudder> aletheia8556: what resolution do you want?
[03:56] <aletheia85561> 1024x768
[03:56] <shudder> alright
[03:56] <Ilmatic> Josh, after I fixed the refresh rates of my screen resolution and was able to get some new settings.
[03:56] <mikejet> how do i enable the en-us locale on gedit, firefox, etc ?
[03:57] <Out_Cold> kenshin, some retailers add a windows licensing fee when selling and some will remove it when selling with other OSs
[03:57] <mikejet> this is making me spell things like colour, etc.
[03:57] <shudder> aletheia8556: hold on one second
[03:57] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: after it's done installing you can run it by typeing fusion-icon.  You'll probably also want to add it to your start up applications.  System>Preferences>Startup applications.
[03:57] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: There's probably a config file I'm unaware of somewhere that the new settings managed to screw up. I've noticed Linux has a knack for that.
[03:57] <songer> hello
[03:58] <mod3st> I have a server with an encrypted root partition.  Is there any way to remotely reboot it?  (I'm prompted for the password at boot)
[03:58] <songer>  how can i change my resolution?
[03:58] <Flare-Laptop> !fixres | songer
[03:58] <Ilmatic> Yeah, possibly josh. Should I go and take a look at my xorg.conf?
[03:58] <Out_Cold> mod3st, have your boot partition unencrypted??
[03:58] <EastDallas> songer: system>preferences>display
[03:58] <JoshDreamland> That file is magic and all, but I can't imagine this would be in there.
[03:59] <shudder> aletheia8556: alright
[03:59] <mazda01> shudder, alright, i just looked at restore within aptoncd and there was 1.1 gb of stuff if i did the restore. libraries and all these apps that I don't even really need so I'll have to figure out another way but going to be now. see ya. thanks for your help tonight
[03:59] <kenshin> Out_Cold, were can i buy cheap ones?
[03:59] <Ilmatic> Oh..
[03:59] <mod3st> Out_Cold: no fun
[03:59] <EastDallas> songer: are you sing nvidia?
[03:59] <shudder> aletheia8556: please run xrandr -q
[03:59] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: Oh, have you tried going to "customize" and selecting a border?
[03:59] <shudder> aletheia8556: and post the output
[03:59] <Out_Cold> mod3st, at least it's just the /boot
[03:59] <aletheia85561> ok
[03:59] <aletheia85561> it gives me a list of resolutions
[03:59] <Out_Cold> kenshin, shop around at the online stores?
[03:59] <shudder> yes
[03:59] <shudder> please post them
[03:59] <Ilmatic> No I haven't actually.
[03:59] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: If that doesn't work, I give up on UI-based fixes
[03:59] <shudder> mazda01
[03:59] <Ilmatic> Okay, I'm trying it right now.
[04:00] <shudder> mazda01: no problem
[04:00] <aletheia85561> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600
[04:00] <tos__> !virtual ethernet device
[04:00] <aletheia85561> default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[04:00] <aletheia85561>    800x600        60.0*    56.0
[04:00] <aletheia85561>    640x480        60.0
[04:00] <aletheia85561>    400x300        60.0     56.0
[04:00] <aletheia85561>    320x240        60.0
[04:00] <Ilmatic> Thanks by the way for the solutions so far.
[04:00] <mod3st> Out_Cold: /boot *is* unencrypted, but grub prompts me... nevermind, this is totally my fault.
[04:00] <songer> eastdallas: yes i do
[04:00] <FloodBot3> aletheia85561: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <shudder> alright
[04:00] <tos__> !openvz
[04:00] <Jeruvy> shudder: are you trolling?
[04:00] <shudder> Jeruvy: not purposefully no
[04:00] <shudder> Jeruvy: I am trying to help
[04:01] <Jeruvy> shudder: its challenging to determine
[04:01] <aletheia85561> what is trolling?
[04:01] <tos__> !virtual ethernet
[04:01] <EastDallas> songer:  I found it will only 'remember' the new resolution if you choose 'No' when it asks 'It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?'
[04:01] <Out_Cold> !troll > aletheia85561
[04:01] <shudder> Jeruvy: I didn't know it would auto do that
[04:01] <Jeruvy> Out_Cold: thanks
[04:01] <shudder> Out_Cold: that was my fault
[04:02] <Ilmatic> Hey josh, when I click the borders that I want.
[04:02] <Ilmatic> Nothing comes up.
[04:02] <shudder> Out_Cold: I didn't know it would auto space that
[04:02] <JoshDreamland> Nothing at all?
[04:02] <Out_Cold> shudder, yea but aletheia85561 asked
[04:02] <Ilmatic> Nada.
[04:02] <ga_sk8er> im having java issues. i play an online game but dont hear the sound
[04:02] <songer> ok i can't see full pages ]
[04:02] <Ilmatic> What the heck is going on..
[04:02] <JoshDreamland> what lies atop each window? Nothing?
[04:02] <shudder> Out_Cold: alright
[04:02] <aletheia85561> what do i do no shudder
[04:02] <Ilmatic> Yep, you said it.
[04:02] <shudder> aletheia8556: alright, we will add a new resolution in
[04:03] <JoshDreamland> Okay. When you rebooted, did X throw any errors?
[04:03] <JoshDreamland> Or were you afraid to reboot? I'd be, heh
[04:03] <ga_sk8er> im having java issues. i play an online game but dont hear the sound
[04:03] <Ilmatic> Wait, I was suppose to restart my computer?
[04:03] <shudder> aletheia8556: type in gtf 1024 768 56.0
[04:03] <Ilmatic> Woops..
[04:03] <shudder> post that single line in a message to me
[04:03] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: That's often a simple solution on Linux. However...
[04:04] <aletheia85561> ok
[04:04] <afroman> hello. how do I get out of suspend?
[04:04] <kenshin> Out_Cold, i can't find a 15n in the uk dell store
[04:04] <Ilmatic> Oh. Lol.
[04:04] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: is metacity running?
[04:04] <JoshDreamland> And one other process whose name I'm trying to recall...
[04:04] <Out_Cold> kenshin, ebay or something? local online retailers?
[04:04] <Ilmatic> Is metacity the black screen that's kind of like terminal?
[04:04] <blakkheim> lol
[04:05] <aletheia85561> what now shudder?
[04:05] <ga_sk8er> i dont get sound on my online java games. what do i do?
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: You can't see metacity. You only know it exists when things like this go wrong.
[04:05] <Ilmatic> Oh. Lol.
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> Run gnome-system-monitor and check for a metacity under "processes"
[04:05] <shudder> aletheia85561: can you post that line to me individually
[04:05] <Out_Cold> ga_sk8er, how did you install java?
[04:06] <Ilmatic> how do I get to gnome system monitor?
[04:06] <Ilmatic> sorry for being such a noob
[04:06] <Ilmatic> : )
[04:06] <JoshDreamland> alt-f2, copy-paste it
[04:06] <ga_sk8er> Out_Cold my sound was working fine a few weeks ago but it suddenly dont work online. i know my sound is ok cause i listen to music with the pc
[04:06] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, try in terminal ps aux | grep metacity
[04:06] <tos__> how do i edit the kernel boot menu??????????????????????
[04:06] <tos__> !grub
[04:06] <aletheia85561> sure
[04:06] <aletheia85561> # 1024x768 @ 56.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 44.41 kHz; pclk: 58.97 MHz
[04:06] <shudder> hm
[04:06] <tos__> !grub2
[04:06] <aletheia85561> Modeline "1024x768_56.00"  58.97  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 769 772 793  -HSync +Vsync
[04:07] <Out_Cold> ga_sk8er, maybe a java update messed it up? maybe try reinstalling sunjava6-bin from repos
[04:07] <shudder> aletheia85561: thank you
[04:07] <JoshDreamland> who/what is tos__?
[04:07] <ga_sk8er> Out_Cold i tried sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade but it didnt update or upgrade the java
[04:07] <tos__> what?
[04:07] <JoshDreamland> Couldn't tell if you were a smart bot or insane person :3
[04:07] <shudder> aletheia85561: now type: xrandr --newmode "1024x768_56.00" 58.97 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 769 772 793 -HSync +Vsync
[04:07] <Maletor> This is so flipping frustrating, Windows 7 cannot start the install because " a required cd/dvd drive device driver is missing " and I don't have a DVD drive! I'm installing from USB, which is the modern way to do things. F**k I'm F**ked. What do I do? Where can I go for help?
[04:07] <tos__> lol
[04:07] <JoshDreamland> Joking. Haha. It's just odd that you asked a question then !'d for it
[04:08] <dark_> Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,5)
[04:08] <tos__> trying to get a virtual network adapter setup
[04:08] <afroman> hello
[04:08] <Ilmatic> gtk warning
[04:08] <tos__> and i need to update kernel
[04:08] <Ilmatic> can't open display
[04:08] <Ilmatic> ughhh
[04:08] <aletheia85561> ok
[04:08] <tos__> man this is a pain in the ASS
[04:08] <Ilmatic> what the frikkin helll
[04:08] <Out_Cold> ga_sk8er, try reinstalling it... you can use apt-get purge sunjava6-bin and apt-get install sunjava6-bin or synaptic
[04:08] <FloodBot3> Ilmatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <Flare-Laptop> !language | tos__
[04:08] <ga_sk8er> Out_COld synaptic is easier
[04:09] <shudder> aletheia85561: let me know when done
[04:09] <Out_Cold> Maletor, try #windows
[04:09] <tos__> ass? really
[04:09] <Flare-Laptop> tos__: Yup
[04:09] <tos__> that was mild
[04:09] <JoshDreamland> Ilmatic: You may want to just reboot, then. I can't predict what will happen.
[04:09] <Flare-Laptop> tos__: Its the rules.
[04:09] <afroman> a quick question, how do I get out of suspend stage? I tried to press every button but still nothing. I end up having to shutdown manually
[04:09] <Ilmatic> Oh. Okay.
[04:09] <tos__> LOL
[04:09] <aletheia85561> now what
[04:09] <Out_Cold> afroman, is it a laptop?
[04:10] <beata> anyone care to help, im trying to use pulseaudio, spdif.  when in system->prefences->sound->hardware i dont see an option for digitial surround, only digitial stero.  When i use this setting, i get sound but only sound track, no voices.  Any sugestions? 9.10 btw
[04:10] <afroman> Out_Cold, ya
[04:10] <Seveas>   j
[04:10] <Seveas>  
[04:10] <JoshDreamland> Can anyone tell me how to edit the internal name of a TTF?
[04:10] <bob_> Having manager problems. update & packet managers wont run. they start to open then close any suggestions?
[04:10] <aletheia85561> shudder u there
[04:11] <shudder> aletheia85561: alright, now type: xrandr --addmode default 1024x768_56.00
[04:11] <Out_Cold> afroman, either your swap isn't proper for suspend or your laptop might not support it?
[04:11] <dark_> I  am  striking into   a  problem.
[04:12] <shudder> aletheia85561: let me know when done
[04:12] <afroman> Out_Cold, I have 10 gb of swap (I thought that would be enough)
[04:12] <Out_Cold> afroman, sounds like a ton....
[04:12] <afroman> how do I know where the problem lies exactly?
[04:12] <Flare-Laptop> afroman: That's WAY to much
[04:12] <Out_Cold> afroman, does hibernate work?
[04:12] <afroman> ya
[04:12] <blakkheim> why did you make 10gb of swap
[04:12] <ga_sk8er> Out_Cold i reinstalled the java but still no sound
[04:12] <bob_> synaptic & update managers wont run. they start but then stop,any suggestions?
[04:13] <afroman> I recall that swap should be at least twice the ram
[04:13] <blakkheim> bob_: paste output of sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[04:13] <ga_sk8er> Out_Cold could it be something in the firefox settings?
[04:14] <kngoworld> Could someone help me install wine on netbook remix?
[04:14] <aletheia85561> im done
[04:14] <blakkheim> kngoworld: can you get to a terminal
[04:14] <afroman> out_cold, so what is the normal swap space?
[04:14] <kngoworld> yes
[04:14] <blakkheim> kngoworld: do that and type sudo aptitude install wine - you're done
[04:14] <ga_sk8er> sudo apt-get wine
[04:14] <blakkheim> ^
[04:14] <blakkheim> wrong
[04:15] <Krezlyn420> can someone tell me how to fdisk my /dev/sdb1 go unlock or remove the superblock?
[04:15] <shudder> aletheia85561: ok, now type: xrandr --output default 1024x768_56.00
[04:15] <afroman> out_Cold, how do I fix the suspend? how do I know where the problem is?
[04:15] <shudder> aletheia85561: that should fix your screen until you log out/shut down
[04:15] <shudder> If anyone knows how to make that permanent that would be good
[04:16] <maco> shudder: oh oh i know
[04:16] <shudder> alright
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  that question dosent make a lot of s3ence.. why are you trying to do that?
[04:16] <shudder> maco: I have to go to bed soon
[04:16] <bob_> says segmentation faulty tree at 50%
[04:16] <maco> shudder: aletheia85561: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20xrandr%20changes%20persistently
[04:16] <shudder> maco: but if you could help her out in a bit that would be great
[04:16] <shudder> well then
[04:17] <Krezlyn420> my windows install cd cannot format the filesystem because of a superblock that linux puts on the hdd when u format in linux, i need to remove that to install windows on my second drive ( /dev/sdb1)
[04:17] <Shwack> Hi all - if you remember me I'm sorry for calling Ubuntu names earlier.  If by the end of the night I can't get my problem resolved, I am just going to do a clean install and remember to never change my password.
[04:17] <Krezlyn420> nor will the cd install on the hdd if i format it to fat32 in linux,
[04:17] <afroman> anyone?
[04:17] <ga_sk8er> krezylyn try installing the linux install cd & just use it to format the drive to blank then reboot with windows disk
[04:17] <cain__> ?
[04:18] <cain__> 可以用中文吗？
[04:18] <bob_> blakkheim it says segmentation faulty tree at about 50%
[04:18] <HomerS_> cain__: goto #ubuntu-cn
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  you mean the MBR ?  the super block shouldnet matter.. You could just use the linux fdisk tools and delete all the partitions.
[04:19] <Krezlyn420> i tried
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:   You did somthing wrong then..
[04:19] <Krezlyn420> Dr_Willis, what i did was i used gparted to format the drive to fat32
[04:19] <Krezlyn420> then i used gparted to unpartion the drive
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  did you rember to 'write' changes to disk after running fdisk to delete the parittions
[04:19] <Ilmatic> Wellp..rebooting does nothing.
[04:19] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[04:19] <Krezlyn420> then i tried to leave the drive unformatted
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> or rember to apply the changes...
[04:19] <Ilmatic> Godd..this is frustrating..
[04:19] <Krezlyn420> i dont know how to use fdisk, i used gparted
[04:19] <ghostnik11> does anyone know if a s3 savage graphics card would allow compiz to work and simulate 3d desktop effects
[04:20] <shudder> ghostnik11: I haven't been able to get it to work yet
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> fdisk /dev/sda  - hit d a few times to delete parittions, w to write changes.. reboot...
[04:20] <Krezlyn420> can you please tell me how to sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1 to leave it free so the windows installer can format it to ntfs quick plz?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> or somthing like that. :)
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  you fdisjk /dev/sdb NOT sdb1
[04:20] <Ilmatic> Dr Willis, is there a reason why my title bar isn't showing?
[04:20] <Krezlyn420> so then, fdisk /dev/sdb
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  and i just gave the basics of doing it in fdisk. :) sudo fdisk /dev/sdX   , hit d a few times, then w
[04:20] <shudder> aletheia85561: that should have fixed your screen to the correct size
[04:21] <PFA> is there a way to search inside documents using nautilus (eg if i have a folder full of text files, searching the text of those files to see if any of them contain the word 'january')
[04:21] <ghostnik11> shudder, is it possible or have you read anything that allows s3 savage to work with compiz
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  correct.. do NOT use fdisk /dev/sdb1
[04:21]  * HomerS_ thinks avant window navigator is so cooL
[04:21] <shudder> ghostnik11: no, but I haven't looked around too hard either since it isn't really my thing
[04:21] <aletheia8556> shudder sorry my internet connection was lost what do ineed to da after adding the new mode
[04:21] <Krezlyn420> ok
[04:21] <Krezlyn420> i got a error
[04:22] <Krezlyn420> where can i pastebin it or something?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin
[04:22] <maco> aletheia8556: <shudder> aletheia85561: ok, now type: xrandr --output default 1024x768_56.00
[04:22] <maco> aletheia8556: <shudder> aletheia85561: that should fix your screen until you log out/shut down
[04:22] <shudder> maco: thank you very much
[04:22] <ghostnik11> shudder, thats the thing i am not good with stuff like that but in the wikipedia that i read online it said it was compatible with compiz
[04:22] <afroman> how do I see & change the depth of the screen?
[04:22] <Krezlyn420> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2ee1a6b3
[04:22] <shudder> ghostnik11: I wouldn't be surpised but it will probably be patchy
[04:23] <maco> aletheia8556: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20xrandr%20changes%20persistently
[04:23] <Krezlyn420> i dont want to screw this up, i am a basic linux user i know what im doing once i get windows installed for dualboot but i just keep running into this problem.
[04:23] <shudder> thanks a lot
[04:23] <shudder> talk to you all later
[04:23] <aletheia8556> maco that didn't change my res
[04:24] <ubuntu> I'm running off ubuntu livecd and ... where the heck is all the software???!
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  thats not an error.. its a warning.
[04:24] <ubuntu> I try aptitude install vlc
[04:24] <ubuntu> and it's not in repos
[04:24] <maco> aletheia8556: pastebin the output of just plain "xrandr" and lemme see
[04:24] <tzufli> hello
[04:24] <Krezlyn420> Dr_Willis, i need to make it work for dos and that, how can i make fdisk it to do it, i'm at the Command inside fdisk i think
[04:25] <aletheia8556> where is pastebin
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  use fdisk to delete all the partitions you dont need.. then write changes to disk.. then let windows partition it.
[04:25] <Krezlyn420> but how?
[04:25] <Krezlyn420> i am newb
[04:25] <bob_> anyone help me with the command in terminal to reinstall update manager & synaptic package manager?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  with the 'd' key in fdisk
[04:25] <bob_> i cant get them to run
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  you want to delete ALL partitions on sdb?
[04:26] <Krezlyn420> yes
[04:26] <tos__> im trying to load OpenVZ module to kernel ubuntu9.10 how do i edit grub2 to load it??
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> then hit 'd' a few times answer its quiestions abotu what partition to delete.. then delete them all one by one.. then write changes to disk with w.
[04:26] <Krezlyn420> it is a 120 hdd, i want to completely delete and remove the partition / filesystem everything wipe it clean
[04:26] <ubuntu> what program do i install to play with fingerprint reader?
[04:27] <Krezlyn420> No partition is defined yet!
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Krezlyn420:  use the l to list parittions.. if yiou hit d a few times you mauy have deleted thjem all allreaduy
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> actually p = print drive layout
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> m = help menu
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> or you could even use a dos disk to delete the partitions if you perfer dos's fdisk command.
[04:30]  * Dr_Willis will be back in a bit.
[04:30] <webbb82> in everyones opinion whats your fav drop down terminal app
[04:30] <Blue1> i am trying to umount a device that says it's busy - but it's not suggestions?
[04:30] <iflema> Krezlyn420: you no see/like sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[04:30] <aletheia8556> maco check out http://pastebin.com/d1f8fb989
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  umount has a force option..
[04:31] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: let me try that...
[04:31] <mMezquitale1234> it sucks getting logged out, that's quite a hack, you cant use your nick because it's already being used in freenode and in the room
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> mMezquitale1234:  thats why you register/use the nickserve service  to recover it
[04:32] <aletheia8556> did you get my pastebin maco??
[04:32] <maco> aletheia8556: yes
[04:32] <ThunderX> webbb82: in everyones opinion whats your fav drop down terminal app
[04:32] <Ilmatic> Hey what is failsafe gnome?
[04:32] <tos__> !vzctl
[04:32] <maco> aletheia8556: oh shudder's command was slightly wrong
[04:32] <blakkheim> Ilmatic: an oxymoron
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  a minimal gnome desktop to be used if somtning screws up
[04:32] <kngoworld> Can someone with experience of Netbook remix please PM regarding WINE?
[04:32] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[04:33] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: it still shows the device mounted (df) this is what I entered sudo umount -V -f /dev/sdb2
[04:33] <maco> aletheia8556: xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768_56.00
[04:33] <maco> aletheia8556: i think that should do it
[04:33] <Ilmatic> Good one blak.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  no idea then.   Do a windoss  thing and reboot? :)
[04:33] <Ilmatic> Hey dr willis, can you assist me real quick?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  and the issue is?
[04:33] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: gonna try init 1, and if that doesn't work then reboot
[04:33] <mMezquitale1234> kngoworld, just ask here in the room, nobody will PM you unless it;'s really necessary, if someone knows the answer to your question they will surely reply
[04:33] <Ilmatic> I can't see my title bar.
[04:33] <Ilmatic> : (
[04:33] <aletheia8556> maco it says "xrandr: cannot find mode 1024x768_56.00"
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  the windows have NONE at all? or is it just past the top of the screen?
[04:34] <Ilmatic> The windows have none at all.
[04:34] <webbb82> i just installed conky where is the file for configuring  stored
[04:34] <kngoworld> I have wine installed, Do i need to run internet explorer to download windows programs to run in wine?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  compiz crashed.. use 'alt-f2' run 'metacity --replace'   and see if they come back
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> webbb82:  theres an example conky config somewhere   or it has its own built in it will use.
[04:35] <Ilmatic> "unable to open x server"
[04:35] <aletheia8556> maco do you know how to creat a new screen res mode
[04:35] <maco> aletheia8556: try putting quotes around 1024x768_56.00 ?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> webbb82:  or use conky -C to make it print out a default config.
[04:35] <mMezquitale1234> webbb82, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6365702
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> webbb82:  normally stored in /home/user/.conkyrc
[04:36] <webbb82> thanks
[04:36] <maco> aletheia8556: its created and associated with the device. it showed in your xrandr output
[04:36] <c0l2e> how can I refresh the desktop screen in ubuntu on bash script or console command ???
[04:37] <Ilmatic> Dr. willis, how come that command line doesn't work?
[04:37] <sri> differnece between unix and linux???
[04:37] <maco> sri: unix is older. different code.
[04:37] <maco> sri: different licenses
[04:37] <Out_Cold> sri, unix is the father of linux and mac
[04:37] <Out_Cold> same genes
[04:38] <tawd> webbb82: sometimes if there is no file at /home/$USER/.conkyrc then you make one and put in the code you want
[04:38] <maco> aletheia8556: i think by this point you can choose the resolution in the system -> preferences -> display thingy
[04:38] <c0l2e> how can I refresh the desktop in a script in ubuntu ??
[04:38] <sri> advantage of linux than windows??
[04:39] <c0l2e> the one in context menu cleanup by name... how can I invoke that in a script?
[04:39] <Out_Cold> sri, linux is fully customizable, virtually virus free and completely FREE
[04:39] <howdeep> good evening. can anyone recommend a program that will convert divx type video files into something that can be burnt and used on a normal dvd player? similar to 'convertXtoDVD' for winblows
[04:40] <Ilmatic> Windows is homosexual.
[04:40] <tawd> Out_Cold really there are not many viruses for linux at the moment, as it gains popularity there is a greater chance viruses will come
[04:40] <iflema> howdeep: devede
[04:40] <Out_Cold> tawd, agreed.. hence the "virtually"
[04:41] <tawd> Out_Cold i hope it takes longer than december 2012 lol
[04:41] <howdeep> iflema, thanks, i'll check it out...looking for a linux alternative for everything, no more windoze!
[04:42] <iflema> howdeep: or trials
[04:42] <iflema> howdeep: winblows
[04:42] <Ilmatic> Is it possible to run ubuntu without ANY problems?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  where are you running it at? its odd its not working from the alt-f2 'run command priompt'
[04:42] <c0l2e> is there other way to refresh desktop other than killall nautilus ??
[04:42] <Out_Cold> whoever asked about the dvd authoring... try dvdrip??
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> I use DeVeDe to put avi to dvd videos. :)
[04:43] <Ilmatic> f2 is the one I used.
[04:43] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: I've been using Ubuntu full time for almost a year on 4 machines with no probs since install.  That includes upgrading twice.
[04:43] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, is it possible to run any computer without problems?????
[04:43] <howdeep> devede seems to be the popular one
[04:43] <mMezquitale1234> Ilmatic, it all depends, generally i have had great experience with older systems on linux, some hardware works great with linux out of the box and windows doesn't support, newer systems take a bit of time for them to be fully supported
[04:43] <tritium> I've also used DeVeDe, and thought it was quite good.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> any computer can have problems. :)
[04:44] <Ilmatic> I've never had any problems on my mac. : )
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Unless of course you never turn it on....
[04:44] <iflema> howdeep: theres several.... check out the software centre if ya on current version(s) theres many in the repos
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Iv3e had MAJOR issues with Macs....
[04:44] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, just not that you noticed
[04:44] <Ilmatic> Lol. Whattt...
[04:44] <mister_roboto> if you never turn it on, it's a problem because it takes up too much space
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto:  my imac makes a good doorstop. :)
[04:44] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[04:44] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, ubuntu can be run on a normal clone without additions or customizations for over 2 years without problems
[04:44] <mister_roboto> :D
[04:45] <mMezquitale1234> Ilmatic, i have a big huge problem with mac, it feels like im in a prison using a mac
[04:45] <nnnnn> for the instalation do I need to live strange hardware pluged in for it to understand?
[04:45] <Ilmatic> Cold: I must admit.
[04:45] <Ilmatic> Ubuntu's interface is beautiful.
[04:45] <Ilmatic> And yes, the os is very responsive and quick.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> GNOME is functional.. but lacking in some areas. :)
[04:45] <Ilmatic> But yet, it is just so non user friendly.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> 'user friendly' is basically a meaningless buzz word.
[04:45] <mMezquitale1234> I would rather a system with windows before i used a mac
[04:45] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, i'd take gnome any day over win.exe
[04:46]  * Dr_Willis installs Geos.
[04:46] <BigMike1> yo Dr_Willis
[04:46] <c0l2e> so there's no way you can refresh desktop in a script??
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Yo!
[04:46] <Ilmatic> How does kubuntu fair against ubuntu?
[04:46] <BigMike1> )
[04:46] <howdeep> iflema, devede is exactly what i'm looking for, thanks dude.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  the kde4 beta ive been testing - is getting very very good.
[04:46] <Out_Cold> c0l2e, what do you mean? what are you trying to acomplish with the script?
[04:46] <mister_roboto> Out_Cold: i have a machine at work on which the sun java broke with karmic. i could not install the java plugin from karmic on the sun jdk from intrepid because of version conflicts in the dependencies. i actually had to uninstall java (and tomcat / ant/ scala / groovy / maven2) and then reinstall it to get the java plugin working!
[04:46] <mMezquitale1234> I'm trying to figure out how to administer an ssh server, I want to give users an account so they can log in but how do you make it so that they can't go anywhere else but a certainly directory to which then can only read, how do you set up a directory to which they can download stuff?
[04:46] <|_ocke> how do i share a freakin directory with my other ubuntu 9.10 box on my local network? :P
[04:47] <Ilmatic> You think it's better than ubuntu's most recent release?
[04:47] <c0l2e> Out_Cold: I want to refresh the desktop screen everytime I run the script
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> howdeep:  devede is also written in python. You can tweak the code to change things you may not like. :)
[04:47] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: Kubuntu is prettier, but it literally burned a laptop up that I installed it on.
[04:47] <|_ocke> hmm it miiiiiight be working
[04:47] <Ilmatic> Wait..like the hardware fried?
[04:47] <mMezquitale1234> Ilmatic, if you want speed go for ubuntu, if you want eye candy go for kubuntu
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu is apprioaching Windows in its 'featureset' of fancy desktop gizmo-doo-dads-thinggies.. :)
[04:47] <nanotube> |_ocke: ssh
[04:47] <Out_Cold> c0l2e, like physically refresh the monitor or the deskop folder??
[04:47] <BigMike1> i customized gnome it looks really good I
[04:47] <afroman> EastDallas: how does a computer burn up?:|
[04:48] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: i think it has surpassed windows.  honestly!
[04:48] <Out_Cold> mister_roboto, yea... some additions suck.... but java is an extra..
[04:48] <tawd> Ilmatic yeah, kubuntu does use a lot more resources.  i got the temperature on my laptop with kubuntu and it was 71 degrees C while it is 50 degrees C on gnome
[04:48] <|_ocke> nanotube, no, i mean as in double click on the share
[04:48] <EastDallas> afroman: the video chip got so hot it melted itself and parts of the case and other hardware.
[04:48] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[04:48] <|_ocke> as in so that my gf can copy files to here
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> mister_roboto:   the beta added some features taht are in win7. :)   trivial things that you either love or hate.
[04:48] <Ilmatic> Damn..that's really crazy.
[04:48] <bondj> anybody here owns a 13" macbook pro?
[04:48] <|_ocke> like under places - network
[04:48] <nanotube> |_ocke: you can mount a remote directory over ssh with nautilus... or you could go for something with samba
[04:48] <Ilmatic> *raises hand*
[04:48] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: right. it so happens that i love kde4
[04:49] <zenlunatic> my family members laptop burned up... turned out there was a recall of the model because the bios didnt direct the fan correctly and it literally burned the wifi card
[04:49] <mister_roboto> Dr_Willis: at least now that it's all working :)
[04:49] <riso> hallo
[04:49] <militant> having some issue making vlc default for any/all media types.  i set it in Preferred Applications and it's not listening
[04:49] <tawd> Ilmatic, but kubuntu is pretty, worth a look if you have a well vented pc
[04:49] <|_ocke> nanotube, how bout the thing where you right click on the folder and go 'sharing options'
[04:49] <|_ocke> how do i make that work :P
[04:49] <riso> sonic is god
[04:49] <c_nick> how to find out the version of Syslinux
[04:49] <Ilmatic> pc only?
[04:49] <|_ocke> i shared on both sides
[04:49] <Ilmatic> Can it run on a intel mac?
[04:49] <nanotube> |_ocke: heh dunno... i just use ssh. :)
[04:49] <tawd> Ilmatic, but some things don't plug and play like they do on gnome
[04:49] <tawd> Ilmatic yes it can run on mac
[04:49] <bondj> anybody here owns a 13" macbook pro?
[04:49] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, it runs on mayny platforms
[04:49] <|_ocke> this has to be usable by a girl heh
[04:49] <tritium> bondj: please don't repeat
[04:49] <pete__> NFS > *
[04:49] <tawd> Ilmatic, kubuntu is just ubuntu using kde4.3 windows manager
[04:50] <Ilmatic> Hmm...
[04:50] <Out_Cold> |_ocke, samba and some tweaks..
[04:50] <Ilmatic> Hey quick question. How do I get fluent with linux? Command wise?
[04:50] <tawd> ilmatic, i suggest looking it up on youtube.com to see if you like how it looks before downloading it though, it can take up some space if you don't have much
[04:50] <nanotube> Ilmatic: try linuxcommand.org maybe, to start with
[04:50] <pete__> Ilmatic, google linux cheat sheet
[04:50] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, i can loan you an ebbok
[04:50] <BigMike1> download some pdf files
[04:51] <Out_Cold> *ebook
[04:51] <nanotube> Out_Cold: 'loan' ? :)
[04:51] <Ilmatic> Damn..so it's all memorization huh?
[04:51] <Ilmatic> That sucks..
[04:51] <nanotube> Ilmatic: no, there's man, and man -k
[04:51] <Out_Cold> haha... i don't own the rights so i can't 'give' it away lol
[04:51] <jolaren>  /join #ubuntu-se
[04:51] <c0l2e> Out_Cold: just the desktop folder
[04:51] <BigMike1> not any harder than commands for a cisco router
[04:51] <pete__> Ilmatic, http://fosswire.com/post/2007/8/unixlinux-command-cheat-sheet/
[04:51] <mister_roboto> Ilmatic: and the stuff you're reading, try to do it.  no, not all memorization. get the general idea of things, use man, look at what's in /usr/bin /usr/sbin, etc
[04:51] <colombofish> I am 1st time in this IRC. I want to setup my WIFI. The GUI is not helping me to setup. Can anyone help Please?
[04:52] <Out_Cold> c0l2e, it should be auto refreshed
[04:52] <riso> HEY WATCH OUT THERE'S A VIRIS GOING AROUND ON THE UPDATE MANAGER SO PLEASE WATCH OUT
[04:52] <riso> DONT UPDATE STRANGE THINGS
[04:52] <tawd> ilmatic if you have more questions you can go to #bash
[04:52] <Ilmatic> K. Thanks for the kind advice.
[04:52] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, there are some tools like man.... try man man in terminal.
[04:52] <Ilmatic> "man man"?
[04:52] <nanotube> riso: yea right
[04:52] <Out_Cold> man man
[04:52] <mister_roboto> man is your best friend. even for old hacks like us
[04:52] <riso> IM SERIOUS!!!
[04:52] <tritium> riso: please stop
[04:52] <Fog> riso two reasons not to listen to you 1) you're using all caps 2) you can't spell virus
[04:53] <|_ocke> i can see the share on mine from this box
[04:53] <nanotube> Ilmatic: man stands for 'manual', it gives you help files on commands. man man gives you help on man itself.
[04:53] <c0l2e> Out_Cold:  I got it,,, now it working fine...  killall nautilus && nautilus -n
[04:53] <tawd> Ilmatic and after you're done viewing the man file press "q" to go back to the shell
[04:53] <EastDallas> Ilmatic: When you need help search ubuntuforums.org.  I'm no command line Ninja, but I've learned a ton about CLI from making changes as instructed in the forums.
[04:53] <|_ocke> but the main user/pass doesn't give me access
[04:53] <Ilmatic> Ohhh..okay.
[04:53] <Out_Cold> LMFAO @ VIRIS
[04:53] <Ilmatic> Lol. I was wondering what it stood for.
[04:53] <Ilmatic> Thanks.
[04:53] <nanotube> riso: if the ubuntu repositories are compromised... it doesn't matter whether you update strange things, or not strange things.
[04:53] <afroman> tawd: if Kubuntu is ubuntu with kde, why are they saying that Kubuntu overheat the pc?
[04:53] <coy> is ubuntuk carmic coala have some problems with it's screensaver?
[04:53] <pete__> you know the funny thing is some people are so stupid.
[04:53] <nanotube> riso: so you might as well just say 'don't update anything ever again'
[04:54] <tawd> afroman because it uses more system resources than gnome does
[04:54] <coy> when i leave my computer idle the it hang
[04:54] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, there is lots and lots of files already in /usr/ that you can browse.... also a quick tutorial on basic bash will do you wonders
[04:54] <tritium> pete__: no need for that
[04:54] <riso> Grrr. fine watever just fry ur harddrives
[04:54] <mister_roboto> afroman: probably a joke because it's graphically intense. i actually run it on a 5 yr old laptop just fine (1GB RAM)
[04:54] <nanotube> riso: and viruses can't 'fry' hard drives. double fail.
[04:55] <pete__> haha
[04:55] <pete__> lol!
[04:55] <Out_Cold> riso, perhaps you have a foreign unsupported app installed that updated it's self and screwed you over
[04:55] <mister_roboto> afroman: of course you can't turn on all the eye candy on old hardware
[04:55] <Ilmatic> It's so hard because I went from an all click OS to one that most of the time requires commands in terminal.
[04:55] <afroman> ok
[04:55] <BigMike1> could i even get a virus in ubuntu unless someone made a linux virus?
[04:55] <pete__> BigMike1, their are linux viruses
[04:56] <tritium> s/their/there
[04:56] <BigMike1> yes i know but there have only been around 40
[04:56] <afroman> how do I change the depth in Ubuntu?
[04:56] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, how hard would it be for us to tell you to click here, then there, then type in the second box, then hit apply and so on...
[04:56] <BigMike1> not to much chance of getting one?
[04:56] <sri> difference between /proc and /sys
[04:56] <SickAnim1tions> Ilmatic: What OS, MacOS? I can't stand the geek-undfriendliness of that OS.
[04:56] <BigMike1> maybe windows has 40,000
[04:56] <nanotube> BigMike1: er... you could say the same thing for any os. could i get a virus in <os> unless someone made a virus for <os>, and the answer is of course, no. but there are some linux viruses and rootkits and sundry malware.
[04:56] <militant> ubuntu's default media player can't handle an mp3?
[04:56] <pete__> tritium, I don't need your help sir.
[04:56] <BigMike1> yes i know
[04:56] <Ilmatic> Both. Windows and Mac.
[04:56] <BigMike1> but rare right?
[04:56] <tawd> militant it can, but you have to download the right codecs
[04:56] <Ilmatic> I'm basically just experimenting with ubuntu right now.
[04:57] <Ilmatic> It's very nice by the way.
[04:57] <Out_Cold> rootkits are more likely to happen than virii... and can cause a lot of damage
[04:57] <nanotube> BigMike1: you have to be vigilant just as in any os. don't go installing random crap from some joe-bob's super cool linux screensaver website, and then be surprised that some malicious script wiped out your home dir.
[04:57] <pete__> BigMike1, you will be fine on ubuntu most likely.
[04:57] <coy> does ubuntu have some problems with its' screen saver?
[04:57] <tawd> ilmatic glad you like it :)
[04:57] <BigMike1> would i have to compile a windows virus to actully get it to work
[04:57] <Ilmatic> Mhmm. : )
[04:57] <militant> tawd, ok, what i'd prefer to do is set vlc as default for all media types... and i did, in Preferred Applications.  but it doesn't seem to pay any attention to that
[04:57] <nanotube> BigMike1: but generally, yes, less likely.
[04:57] <mister_roboto> BigMike1: much more rare because window is the dominant platform (big target) and everyone runs as root there, making the malware more effective
[04:57] <afroman> anybody knows how to change depth?
[04:57] <BigMike1> well i have been using ubuntu now for 2 years and i dont worry about it
[04:57] <nanotube> afroman: dig longer
[04:57] <tritium> pete__: take it easy
[04:57] <nanotube> afroman: :P
[04:57] <pete__> can a window's virus kill ur wine instal on ubuntu?
[04:58] <tritium> !virus
[04:58] <afroman> nanotube: I did dig on google
[04:58] <iflema> i luv windows users ;)
[04:58] <nanotube> pete__: not out of the realm of possibility
[04:58] <BigMike1> i used clamav once
[04:58] <nanotube> afroman: i was just making a pun... change depth - dig deeper ?
[04:58] <Losha> BigMike1: yes, thankfully rare, at least, so far. But it still pays to be prudent like nanotube says. Keep your system up to date, don't install stuff from unknown sources. Don't run a server if you can avoid it....
[04:58] <pete__> i would feel stupid scanning my ubuntu machine for a virus
[04:58] <Ilmatic> So is linux the preferred OS of hackers?
[04:58] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[04:58] <BigMike1> yes i am all updated
[04:58] <afroman> nanotube: very funny
[04:59] <SickAnim1tions> Ilmatic: I'm no hacker but what's helped me is usingcommand line as much as possible. For instance, install irssi and use Terminal for IRC and use Lynx to browse the web
[04:59] <Out_Cold> Losha, don't run a server if you don't know how to protect it ;)
[04:59] <BigMike1> and customized lol with a fancy gnome desktop
[04:59] <nanotube> afroman: :P
[04:59] <afroman> nanotube: U got me.
[04:59] <afroman> nanotube: so can U help?
[04:59] <mister_roboto> Ilmatic: geeks like linux because you get total control over your machine and, given enough time and interest, you can understand it all the way down
[04:59] <mister_roboto> Ilmatic: nothing is hidden from you
[04:59] <Losha> Out_Cold: I've seen people come here for help with their servers who couldn't run a simple text editor. It's scary....
[04:59] <riso> heres to all u non believers my best friend just had the same thing happen.
[04:59] <Ilmatic> Except root?
[04:59] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[05:00] <tawd> militant im not sure you could probably google that to find how to set vlc as default
[05:00] <nanotube> BigMike1: btw, this may give you good reason to be vigilant: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/12/09/2215253/Malware-Found-Hidden-In-Screensaver-On-Gnome-Look
[05:00] <riso> he tried to update and his compy froze and then gave the blue screen or death
[05:00] <Out_Cold> Losha, agreed... that can cause some serious fun for the knowledgeable
[05:00] <BigMike1> ive only asked for help here 2x in 2yrs i just read the forums and find what i need
[05:00] <lockd> Losha, then how are they even editing their web pages
[05:00] <nanotube> afroman: err.. what exactly is your question? :)
[05:00] <militant> tawd, i did, and the instructions it gives make no sense.  yes there's an 'open with' on the right click menu but no button or box to set the selected app as default.  *shrug*
[05:00] <tritium> riso: time to stop, please.  The BSOD is a Windows problem, not a linux one.
[05:00] <BigMike1> ah there starting to target us now i see
[05:01] <tos__> ok so i tried to install openVZ to assist with creating virtual ethernet interface, However im using Ubuntu 9.10, and have never recompiled a kernel or anything like that... does anyone know of another way to accomplish this, My router only assigns 1 ip per MAC address and I cant change the router so I need a virtual solution... if there is an easy way out there for ubuntu with a HOW-to or not too much config'ing ??
[05:01] <afroman> nanotube: depth
[05:01] <Losha> pete__: there was a post somewhere from someone who ran a virus in wine and it wrote a bunch of files to his unix filesystem. Thankfully this too is rare....
[05:01] <nanotube> afroman: depth of what? you mean like screen resolution depth?
[05:01] <tawd> militant i'll brb.  going to google to try to help :)
[05:01] <pete__> Losha, heh i only run foobar2k in wine
[05:01] <BigMike1> yes i have heard of viruses wine
[05:01] <BiosElement> Losha: It's worth noting the files didn't do anything.
[05:01] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, even root has it's understandings... knowing what happens when you do actions as root is a very important lesson
[05:01] <afroman> nanotube: how to change depth of the screen resolution?
[05:01] <riso> im running ubuntu idiot
[05:01] <militant> tawd, thanks!  the instructions i found were on an ubuntu site, so ... i dunno
[05:01] <BigMike1> lots of ways to get us if they want
[05:02] <Ilmatic> Cold: Would you consider yourself a ubuntu guru?
[05:02] <nanotube> afroman: hrm... well, probably have to change xorg.conf, if the setting doesn't show up in the gui.
[05:02] <Out_Cold> not in a million years.... i am learning just like the rest of us
[05:02] <owen1> how to make my shuffle's content NOT read only?
[05:02] <Out_Cold> not one here can claim that they know everything..
[05:02] <Ilmatic> Oh..I see..
[05:02] <Losha> BiosElement: agreed, and presumably they still didn't have root access, so it's more a nuisance than a serious threat....
[05:02] <Out_Cold> maybe ubottu
[05:02] <Ilmatic> Dr. Willis seems to know everything.
[05:02] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[05:03] <mister_roboto> that's why he's the Dr.
[05:03] <Ilmatic> That guy is always helping folks out.
[05:03] <BigMike1> too many different things to learn you might be able to specialize in some areas i guess
[05:03] <colombofish> Need help on Wifi settings. GUI is not keeping the setting for me. Please help to this newbie.
[05:03] <Losha> Ilmatic: nice to have people like that around...
[05:03] <Out_Cold> he's mentored me in my learning curve several times... and now i return the favor for others
[05:03] <Ilmatic> Mmhmm. Amen to that.
[05:03] <slacker> I was wondering if some one could help me out. I installed ubuntu 9.04 then found out that it didn't support my catalyist 9.3 driver I needed for graphics. So I tried to downgrade to 8.10 (64 bit) as I believe I have a EM64T cpu. Didn't work I kept getting a buffer I/O error dev/sr0 many times. So I decided to try and get 8.04 64 bit I added generic.all_generic_IDE=1 for a boot parameter now my cd rom won't write. I want to instal
[05:03] <slacker> l 8.04 32 bit so I can use graphics dirver
[05:03] <mMezquitale1234> after logging in to an ssh server remotely, is it safe to use sudo and then your password???
[05:03] <Ilmatic> Hey Out Cold, is it necessary for me to get an AV program for ubuntu?
[05:04] <owen1> mMezquitale1234: yes
[05:04] <Out_Cold> slacker, have you tried a 32 bit?
[05:04] <tritium> slacker: what do you mean?  9.04 supports ati proprietary drivers
[05:04] <nanotube> mMezquitale1234: no less safe than doing the same on the local system...
[05:04] <Out_Cold> Ilmatic, it's only needed if you feel you need it... i have it installed but i rarely run it because i know what i download and things i don't trust get sappy permissions
[05:04] <owen1> how to make my shuffle's content NOT read only?
[05:04] <Losha> slacker: most common cause of buffer I/O error dev/sr0 is a bad cd. Check the md5sum and/or reburn it. 8.04 is pretty stable these days....
[05:04] <slacker> ubuntu 9.04 i updated to 9.10 thinking it might help. I have no sound or graphics support
[05:05] <dsnyders> Is there much of a difference between 64bit and 32 bit versions of Ubuntu?
[05:05] <tritium> riso: are you ban evading now?
[05:05] <Ilmatic> Oh okay.
[05:05] <slacker> I can't brun it now the cd rom quit burnning
[05:05] <nanotube> colombofish: please be more specific in your question. state your wifi card make/model, version of ubuntu, what exactly you are trying to do, etc. (and prepare to be patient waiting for an answer, in case it's not a common problem)
[05:05] <slacker> it just finalizes the cd
[05:05] <riso> i apoligise it was a forien program, my bad...
[05:05] <riso> im sorry...
[05:05] <nanotube> riso: which program, out of curiosity?
[05:05] <dtownhero> dsnyders: yes, 64 bit handles memory allocation a lot better
[05:05] <pete__> lol
[05:06] <Ilmatic> Hey I saw on youtube some dude making his desktop into a 3d cube. How can I get glittery stuff like that?
[05:06] <owen1> i can't remove any file on my shuffle since it's all read-only. how to change it? sudo chmod 777 *  is not doing it.
[05:06] <riso> im not shure yet but i think it was the windows Zune program
[05:06] <Out_Cold> dsnyders, the architecture of the motherboard is supported differently with each
[05:06] <tawd> ilmatic download ccsm
[05:06] <afroman> nanotube: thx. i found it
[05:06] <tritium> pete__: I've asked you to stop laughing at and making fun of people.  We have a code of conduct.
[05:06] <nanotube> riso: hrm does taht even exist for linux??
[05:06] <nanotube> afroman: cool :)
[05:06] <mister_roboto> dsnyders: 32-bit has been better supported for a long time. for example, flash wasn't working for a long time on 64-bit. don't know where things stand today
[05:06] <riso> i dont think so
[05:07] <Bevo1987> hi
[05:07] <slacker> also when I'd run the lspci id didn't get 3 *ide as well as I have wlan0 when it use to be wifi0
[05:07] <nanotube> tritium: a little lol never hurt anyone. lighten up. ? :)
[05:07] <hkm> hi
[05:07] <riso> like i said im not quite shure yet
[05:07] <dsnyders> dtownhero, 32 bit only goes up to 4G ram?  (I'm considering upgrading my motherboard.  I want lots of RAM for doing virtual machines).
[05:07] <nanotube> riso: hrm...
[05:07] <afroman> nanotube: can I ask another question? how does one come back from a "suspend"?
[05:07] <owen1> how to change content of device (my shuffle) to read and write?
[05:07] <Out_Cold> dsnyders, 32 bit only reads 3gb ram
[05:08] <nanotube> afroman: usually you just press the power button to resume. (or on a laptop, close and open your lid will do it too)
[05:08] <hkm> who
[05:08] <slacker> I also had md5sum checked the image as well as tested via the live cd
[05:08] <Losha> dsnyders: IMO, larger ram support is the single biggest difference with 32 vs 64 bit versions....
[05:08] <riso> where could i get another firewall? i have gaurddog and firestarter.
[05:08] <dtownhero> dsnyders: 32bit will not handle 4gigs of ram as effectively as 64
[05:08] <riso> r therer any more?
[05:08] <dtownhero> there is really no good reason to not use 64bit
[05:08] <Losha> riso: just how many do you need?
[05:09] <tawd> militant, you said that you had changed vlc to be default in System > Preferences > Preferred Applications?
[05:09] <slacker> I got the 64 bit 8.04 to run but it would freeze after logging in
[05:09] <militant> tawd, yessir
[05:09] <riso> idk i just want to be protected...and a back up if u kno any
[05:09] <dtownhero> Losha: even in a 2gig install 64 bit will handle the memory allocation better
[05:09] <afroman> nanotube: this is funny :D. I pressed every single button on my keyboard, I did everything but to close and open the lid
[05:09] <tritium> riso: they are all frontends for iptables
[05:09] <Losha> dtownhero: interesting, got an official site for that claim?
[05:09] <tawd> militant, let me see something else real quick, sorry, i'm on dial-up internet at the moment
[05:09] <Out_Cold> i have had problems installing a 64 bit on my server box though... had to go back to 32 bit..
[05:09] <riso> okay im confused now...
[05:10] <mister_roboto> dsnyders: what do you intend to do with "lots of vm's"?
[05:10] <mister_roboto> dsnyders: just curious
[05:10] <slacker> Do I need to edit grub to get rid of the generic.all_generic_ide=1 that I entered at install with the live cd?
[05:10] <afroman> nanotube: thx
[05:10] <Losha> riso: IMO, the best protection is to be behind a NAT router....
[05:10] <nanotube> afroman: hehe np :)
[05:10] <militant> tawd, appreciate the help
[05:10] <iflema> riso: you may not even need one depending on what ya doing... of course. where ya point ya web browser can be an issue.
[05:10] <riso> im on a wireless un secured system link
[05:11] <riso> i have three web browsers
[05:11] <slacker> I've opened a help topic with all my info at the help forums under DLoc in the upgrade section if anyone could help me I'd be really greatfull
[05:11] <afroman> nanotube: whoever said "ignorance is bliss" lied
[05:12] <slacker> I agree afroman
[05:12] <riso> nanotube: i have three webbrowsers
[05:12] <dsnyders> mister_roboto, Well, to be gut level honest, just to play around with.  However, the "official reason" is for MCSE practice purposes
[05:12] <tawd> militant did you go to a terminal and type cp '/usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop' '/usr/share/applications/totem.desktop'   ?
[05:12] <mMezquitale1234> anyone knows what is so wrong about using a an SSH without a passphrase???
[05:12] <militant> tawd, no, lemme do that
[05:12] <tawd> militant ok, i hope it works
[05:13] <nanotube> afroman: heh well, every saying applies only under a subset of possible circumstances. but it's true that this one has a particularly small subset of applicability. :)
[05:13] <tawd> militant wait
[05:13] <mister_roboto> afroman: the entire quote is better... "where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise"
[05:13] <tawd> militant probably make a backup of that file before copying over it
[05:13] <dtownhero> Losha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit
[05:13] <dtownhero> read :)
[05:13] <mister_roboto> afroman: most people would choose to be wise, even if it's not all bliss :)
[05:13] <riso> i agree mister_roboto
[05:13] <militant> alrady did, one sec
[05:13] <nanotube> riso: a firewall is never a bad idea - but one is enough, you just have to know how to properly set it up.
[05:13] <maco> mMezquitale1234: an ssh key? well when it has a passphrase, there's something you have (the key) and something you know (the passphrase), so its 2-factor authentication. without passphrase, you'd better hope that hard drive never falls into the wrong hands (ie, dont keep the key on your laptop unless laptop is encrypted, iin case you lose it)
[05:13] <riso> i think im lacking there...hah sorry...
[05:14] <tawd> militant do  cp /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop /usr/share/applications/tote.desktop.copy
[05:14] <Losha> dtownhero: excellent, I am a convert, thank you...
[05:14] <tawd> then do the first comand
[05:14] <mister_roboto> mMezquitale1234: if someone gets your private key, they can masquerade as you without having the second level of protection from the passphrase
[05:14] <iflema> riso: the unsecured network is out there.... it can be intercepted it can be injected... butstill going through the same hole youve opened in da wall...
[05:14] <slacker> I've also heard a quote that goes something to the effect of: the more knowledge you acquire the less pleasure there is in living
[05:14] <owen1> i can't remove any file on my shuffle since it's all read-only. how to change it? sudo chmod 777 *  is not doing it.
[05:14] <colombofish> Nonotube Hi! some details: product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN, vendor: Broadcom Corporation. Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic. I am using GUI nm tool to setup for Wifi. After the settings the ping to the gw says Destination Host Unreachable.
[05:14] <nanotube> riso: just google around for firestarter tutorials or something. that's probably the easiest way to go.
[05:14] <slacker> something to do with a burden
[05:15] <riso> im really confused now...sorry
[05:15] <Losha> riso: one correctly configured firewall is worth any number of badly configured ones (Shakespeare)...
[05:15] <dtownhero> Losha: no problem, pay attention to the bottom part that mentions using region files and address space
[05:15] <tawd> militant sorry the second one has a typo it should be /usr/share/applications/tote.desktop.copy
[05:15] <mister_roboto> Losha: lol
[05:15] <nanotube> colombofish: which wifi driver are you using? the b43, or the sta?
[05:15] <afroman> mister_roboto: ok :)
[05:15] <tawd> militant sorry the second one has a typo it should be /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop.copy
[05:15] <riso> ah i see thankx...and sorry for erlier, i guess im still new at this
[05:15] <dtownhero> The main disadvantage of 64-bit architectures is that relative to 32-bit architectures, the same data occupies more space in memory (due to swollen pointers and possibly other types and alignment padding). This increases the memory requirements of a given process and can have implications for efficient processor cache utilization. Maintaining a partial 32-bit model is one way to handle this and is in general reasonably effective
[05:15] <dtownhero> . For example, the z/OS operating system takes this approach currently, requiring program code to reside in 31-bit address spaces (the high order bit is not used in address calculation on the underlying hardware platform) while data objects can optionally reside in 64-bit regions.
[05:15] <nanotube> Losha: heh that's a good one
[05:16] <dtownhero> sorry for bad paste >.<
[05:16] <DouglasK> I have Syslog accepting log entries from a couple different machines on my network.  Is it possible to route the log entries from the remote machines  to their own files?
[05:16] <Sylphid|netbook> is it possible to have the setuid bit turned on for a link (either symbolic or hard) but not for the executable it points to?
[05:16] <slacker> I'm not completely sure but I think I don't have enough ram to run 64 bit
[05:16] <tawd> militant sorry, did i make sense?
[05:16] <militant> tawd, that worked.  thanks a ton.  i'm sure ther'es more elegant ways but it did the job that's what counts
[05:16] <mMezquitale1234> maco and mister_roboto thanks, I did encrypt my laptop's home directory just for that specific purpose but having the passphrase is not a bad idea
[05:17] <nanotube> mister_roboto: if someone's gained access to your key... that key having a passphrase or not is probably the least of your worries. cuz they have access to /all your files/. but yes, it doesn't /hurt/ to have a passphrase, except in cases of doing scripted tasks over ssh. :)
[05:17] <riso> hey how do u encrypt???
[05:17] <colombofish> BCM4311 802.11b
[05:17] <militant> i dislike using anything but vlc kuz i'm too lazy to learn other interfaces
[05:17] <tawd> militant ok lol  good :)  i got that from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1276575  little workaround but i'm glad for you!
[05:17] <Losha> Sylphid|netbook: I don't *think* you can do that...
[05:17] <DouglasK> riso, I assume you mean home folder encryption?
[05:18] <riso> ya so no one but me can access it
[05:18] <uncmar> how would I go about doing some keyboard bindings ?
[05:18] <mister_roboto> nanotube: huh?  i can get a copy of your private key even without anything else if i get it from a thumb drive, for example.
[05:18] <Losha> militant: fair enough. I stick to mplayer for much the same reason (and because it plays nearly everything)....
[05:18] <militant> Losha, i've never encountered anything vlc wouldn't play.  mplayer is pretty much the same from my limited experience.  comfort/familiarity count for a lot
[05:18] <mister_roboto> nanotube: doesn't necessarily mean i have your machine rooted just because i snagged a copy of your key
[05:19] <lokpest> how do I get firefox 3.5 for hardy? cant find it in backports
[05:19] <DouglasK> riso, that's an option you get when you install Karmic.  I'm not sure if you get the option each time you create a new user.
[05:19] <afroman> anybody knows where the place.squite for firefox is located?
[05:19] <riso> Karmic?
[05:19] <nanotube> colombofish: that's not the driver, thats the model of your card. anyway, i did just recently run into some issues with a very similar card (bcm4312), and the solution is to use the broadcom sta driver instead of b43. try installing package "bcmwl-kernel-source"
[05:19] <riso> wat???
[05:19] <Losha> nanotube: if your key is protected by a good passphrase, doesn't that make it useless to the thief?
[05:19] <nanotube> afroman: in ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiledirectoryname
[05:19] <mMezquitale1234> is there an SSH guide in ubuntu where you can restrict users to their home directories?
[05:19] <riso> the whole thing makes my haed spinny
[05:19] <slacker> if anyone can help me here is all my info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1372835
[05:20] <DouglasK> riso: Karmic Koala (aka version 9.10) is the current release of Ubuntu Linux.
[05:20] <afroman> nanotube: dude, is there anything U don't know :P?
[05:20] <riso> oh right...haha blonde me...
[05:20] <tawd> anyone know which is better.  dual-boot, or wubi ?  i'm going to convert a manager at work to ubuntu and i would like to know.  i use a dual-boot on my laptop and it works great
[05:20] <nanotube> mister_roboto: well, any key you carry around on a thumbdrive, sure, a passphrase is important. i dont happen to have need to do that, though, so wasn't thinking of that circumstance.
[05:20] <brianherman> twad: dual boot
[05:20] <brianherman> tawd: wait
[05:20] <riso> duel boot i agree
[05:20] <brianherman> tawd: we need more info about that manager
[05:20] <mister_roboto> Losha: the key can't be used without having the passphrase, so yes.
[05:20] <afroman> nanotube: thx man
[05:21] <Losha> nanotube: well, it's not just your thumbdrive. Laptops gets stolen every day....
[05:21] <DouglasK> so anyone experienced with remote syslog around here?
[05:21] <brianherman> tawd: on a scale of one to pointy haired boss rate his intelligence leve
[05:21] <uncmar> tawd: does the manager have pointy hairy?  Just curious if he comes from a Dilbert cartoon.
[05:21] <tawd> brianheran he a manager at my work that pretty much just uses computer to play mafia wars lol
[05:21] <brianherman> tawd: UH
[05:21] <brianherman> tawd: do you want to get fired
[05:21] <tawd> uncmar lol
[05:21] <slacker> I know that all_generic_ide=1 is supposed to force the IDE driver, how can I reconfigure my hardware?
[05:21] <mister_roboto> Losha: well, in that case, to nanotube's point, they have ALL your files :)
[05:21] <brianherman> twad: you dont want to convince your boss you want to convince the IT people
[05:22] <tawd> brianherman lol  his pc is 7 years old and needs help ;p
[05:22] <colombofish> nanotube: is this cmd ok to install "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source". After install what would be next. Any easy site to follow simple instructions? Thx in advance.
[05:22] <brianherman> tawd: linux is not what he wants
[05:22] <uncmar> tawd: no, if his PC is 7 years old.  *he* needs help.
[05:22] <tawd> brianherman there arn't any IT people at sonic lol.
[05:22] <brianherman> tawd: next xmas buy him a netbook
[05:22] <Losha> mister_roboto: maybe they do, but they can't use my ssh key to login to my work as me, because they don't know the passphrase for the ssh key....
[05:22] <brianherman> >_<
[05:22] <lokpest> bump, firefox 3.5 for hardy?
[05:23] <nanotube> Losha: mister_roboto: afaik, once you have the private key, the passphrase can be brute forced relatively quickly under most circumstances...
[05:23] <tawd> brianherman lol  i'm just wanting to help him before i go back to college for spring
[05:23] <brianherman> tawd: you are trying to fix a loose bolt with a screwdriver
[05:23] <mister_roboto> nanotube: no, not quickly if you have a good, long passphrase
[05:23] <Ilmatic> Hey anyone here familiar with the program KisMac?
[05:23] <nanotube> colombofish: after that, just reboot... you may have to disable the b43 driver specifically... let me google for a tutorial...
[05:23] <brianherman> tawd: backup his files and reinstall his operating system
[05:23] <faileas> hmm... depends on the 7 year old box. I got a decade old one that might be able to run ubuntu ;p
[05:23] <brianherman> tawd: thats what he would want
[05:24] <nanotube> mister_roboto: well yes... but having a 'good long passphrase' is something many people do not have. especially if they use the key frequently. :)
[05:24] <tawd> brianherman i probably could do that
[05:24] <brianherman> ubuntu is not the problem
[05:24] <Losha> nanotube: well, I *did* stipulate a "good" passphrase. Almost impossible to break within a reasonable time frame with current resources (unless, maybe, you're a government)
[05:24] <uncmar> tawd: backup his files and have him get a new system to put them on.
[05:24] <brianherman> it is the thing between the computer and the chair
[05:24] <gineesh> hi there!
[05:24] <tawd> brianherman lol
[05:24] <mister_roboto> nanotube: touche!   :)
[05:24] <faileas> Losha: or use monkeywrench cryptoanalysis ;p
[05:24] <Ratizar> how can i watch dvd ?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | Ratizar
[05:25] <afroman> nanotube: last question. when I'm watching a movie, I sometimes get see some bad frames when the carachters of the movie are in moving, what could be the problem? I have the latest ati driver, I took out all the animation in gnome, but the picture is the same in vlc and xine
[05:25] <tawd> brianherman uncmar he's a young guy, i think he might like the challenge.  all he would have to do is use firefox for browsing, and download flash player then he's set
[05:25] <slacker> is there a way to reconfigure the IDE driver. or load PCI driver?
[05:26] <brianherman> tawd: but you are not going to be there to help
[05:26] <uncmar> How would I go about binding the Middle click to the keyboard?
[05:26] <brianherman> tawd: do it next break
[05:26] <Losha> faileas: even then, it only really has to keep them out until you notify the admins that your key may have been compromised so they can invalidate it....
[05:26] <nanotube> colombofish: here's broadcom's page for the sta driver: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php   after you install that package, follow step 3 (and only the step3) from the readme there. then reboot the comp for good measure.
[05:26] <MoodFreak> I use Karmic desktop.  I want to convert the entire H.D. to encryption easily.  What is the best way?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  the movie players got some rendering/post processing optiosn that may help. or vsync options.
[05:27] <tawd> brianherman ok, good idea. i will be leaving in like 2 weeks anyways
[05:27] <Ratizar> thanks Dr_Willis
[05:27] <blakkheim> MoodFreak: reinstall with encryption
[05:27] <joshua____> don't you have to reinstall MoodFreak?
[05:27] <redtricycle> MoodFreak: Use LUKS
[05:27] <colombofish> I found the driver. driver=b43-pci-bridge. I will follow the instr. Thanks Nanotube 4 hlp.
[05:27] <nanotube> afroman: hrm, hard to say... see what Dr_Willis said... just have to play around with that one. could be video drivers, could be slow comp, could be bad video file, ...
[05:27] <MHz128> I am unable to change the order in which bookmarks are displayed in the Bookmarks Toolbar... what gives?
[05:28] <MHz128> Firefox 3.5.6
[05:28] <nanotube> colombofish: ok good luck :)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  depends on exactly whaat sort of video issue/glitz you are seeing
[05:28] <Losha> MoodFreak: and make a backup first. Plenty of people show up here saying they have difficulty decrypting their encrypted filesystem....
[05:28] <david__> hello
[05:28] <david__> anyone know much about xubuntu
[05:28] <nanotube> mister_roboto: Losha: heh well, so after all this... i guess now you all know i have a bunch of keys without a passphrase on my machine. ...
[05:28] <blakkheim> david__: #xubuntu does
[05:29] <uncmar> david__: tastes like chicken?
[05:29] <mister_roboto> nanotube: lol
[05:29] <Losha> nanotube: nasty habit that....
[05:29] <david__> was just wandering what is going on about downloading limewire
[05:29] <afroman> Dr_Willis: nanotube: I know it's not the cpu & it's not the bad video files coz it happens many time still to different files
[05:29] <brianherman> david__: use gnutella its opensource
[05:29] <david__> cool thanks
[05:29] <nanotube> MHz128: go to bookmarks -> organize bookmarks, and from there find the toolbar folder, and can rearrange stuf.f....   i think also usually you can just drag them around directly.
[05:30] <afroman> Dr_Willis: how do I get to the vsync?
[05:30] <MHz128> nanotube, i cant drag them around :P
[05:31] <nanotube> Losha: well, if you had scripts automating some file uploads/downloads, you wouldn't want to enter your passphrase every time, either. :P
[05:31] <happylol> in pidgin I am trying to create another irc account, but when I add an account in Manage Accounts of pidgin, the nickserv never comes.
[05:31] <david__> ok one more question how about flash
[05:31] <nanotube> MHz128: heh well... try doing it through the bookmark manager. if doesn't work... maybe a firefox restart will help?
[05:31] <kleanchap_> Where is the xorg.conf file located on Ubuntu?
[05:31] <blakkheim> kleanchap_: /etc/X11
[05:31] <Out_Cold> kleanchap_, you may not have one.. but it's usually in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[05:32] <slacker> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:32] <joshua____> I use /dev/null for my Xorg.conf
[05:32] <Out_Cold> ** little x
[05:32] <owen1> i can't remove any file on my shuffle since it's all read-only. how to change it? sudo chmod 777 *  is not doing it.
[05:32] <david__> were do you download flashplayer at for firefox
[05:32] <theadmin> david__: Install 'flashplugin-installer' package.
[05:32] <nanotube> david__: there's a 'flashplayer-nonfree' package in the repos that does it for you.
[05:32] <kleanchap_> I am in /etc/X11 and do not see it there.
[05:32] <david__> ok
[05:32] <slacker> any help for this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1372835
[05:32] <nanotube> david__: or maybe it's what theadmin says... they keep changing package names with the different ubuntu releases...
[05:32] <Out_Cold> kleanchap_, you might not have one as i've said
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  what exactl is the video problem/quirk looking like? blocks? colors?
[05:32] <joshua____> kleanchap-: sounds like you use /dev/null for xorg.conf too.
[05:33] <uncmar> owen1: it is probably mounted as readonly.  You have to remount with write permissions.  What file system does it use?
[05:33] <theadmin> nanotube: That's what it was in Karmic.
[05:33] <Losha> nanotube: there's a workaround for that: check out ssh-agent. It lets you enter passphrases once at the start of a session so you can run scripts without re-entering them all the time. It's a reasonable compromise between safety/convenience
[05:33] <slacker> I think something is remapping my PCI to IDE
[05:33] <kleanchap_> Out_Cold, I saw that. Then how is the X on Ubuntu selecting the drivers and resolution modes?
[05:33] <JosefAss1d> so, if running the livecd works but an installed linux hangs as soon as it's populating /dev is it reasonable to assume that I need to tackle a problem somewhere in the disk systems? dma, disk driver(s), etc.?
[05:33] <nanotube> theadmin: ah ok. in intrepid, it's flashplugin-nonfree...
[05:34] <brianherman> JosefAssld: did you burn the cd yourself?
[05:34] <Out_Cold> kleanchap_, no idea lol... all i know is that new distros don't need the file... unless you need mods
[05:34] <brianherman> JosefAssld: it could be a bad burn
[05:34] <jb0nd387372> Question: i'm running ubuntu 9.10, dual booting between it and windows 7, using grub as the boot manager.  I would like to clean up the menu a little bit, get rid of the ubuntu memtest and other items, whats the easiest way to do that?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> jb0nd387372:  thats contrilled by the various grub 2 configs
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | jb0nd387372
[05:34] <JosefAss1d> brianherman: yes, but the hang is with debian. However, when I use the ubuntu installer it times out on CD IO
[05:34] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis beat me to it
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> jb0nd387372:  /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d
[05:35] <david__> i was having problems with kubuntu an switched to xubuntu
[05:35] <brianherman> JosefAssld: did you burn the cd your self?
[05:35] <nanotube> Losha: yea, ssh-agent is cool and all... but i figure, if someone steals my comp, (and that's the only way someone can get at my keys) the ssh keys are gonna be the least of my worries, so i just don't bother.
[05:35] <JosefAss1d> brianherman: yes
[05:35] <brianherman> JosefAssld: burn it again
[05:35] <david__> an the difference is amazing
[05:35] <brianherman> JosefAssld: it is a bad burn
[05:35] <theadmin> ...GRUB was a little easier then GRUB2, just find menu.lst and edit it... :D
[05:35] <afroman> Dr_Willis: I get horizontal lines
[05:35] <tawd> josefass1d did you burn at the slowest possible write speed for your cd burner?
[05:35] <JosefAss1d> brianherman: That's probably good advice, even though I think I'll probably run into the disk access hang later. But still, you might be right.
[05:36] <theadmin> tawd: Eh, does this even matter?
[05:36] <slacker> is there a way to select device drivers for PCI vs IDE?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[05:36] <nanotube> brianherman: why not just run the disk integrity check?
[05:36] <JosefAss1d> tawd: I think brasero would have said something if the burn didn't end well... no?
[05:36] <jb0nd387372> is there a "front end" that allows easy menu editing, i'm kind of concerned about taking the wrong settings out and leaving either win7 or ubuntu or both unbootable.  Does the wiki have sugguestions as alternatives to hand editng?
[05:36] <Losha> nanotube: as long as you understand the risks....
[05:36] <tawd> theadmin it mattered for me a couple years ago when i started, i went through 3 cd's before i wrote slow
[05:36] <Xfact> I have a cd of 9.10, and currently I am on hardy, do updating is possible through that cd?
[05:37] <Losha> JosefAss1d: brasero is infamous for being full of bugs. I don't trust it. k3b is far better, and worth the bulk....
[05:37] <dl> heh, i got a intresting one for ya, all of the sudden my 9.10 xubuntu install decides to randomly pause the audio when i am using audacious. any clues how to fix it
[05:37] <theadmin> Xfact: Only if it's alternative
[05:37] <DouglasK> Question: I've got my router and phone adapter sending their syslog data to an ubuntu server on my network. I'd like to split their log traffic out into unique files if possible, but I don't see how off hand.
[05:37] <tawd> josefass1d it's worth trying it out, it doesn't take much longer at all and usually works for me
[05:37] <JosefAss1d> tawd: FWIW though, I burned 4 disks and the one I used other than ubuntu (debian) worked fine. Plus, I've never had a bad burn on this machine
[05:37] <dl> cos if not, i just going back to debain (its old stuff, but stable)
[05:37] <Xfact> theadmin: desktop cd won't work?
[05:37] <afroman> Dr_Willis: ya exactly
[05:37] <david__> can you download inernet explorer for ubuntu
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Xfact: Only if it's alternative
[05:37] <theadmin> Xfact: No, you can only LiveCD/install with that
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  twiddle with the video playerws filters/settings
[05:38] <faileas> david__: why would you want to?
[05:38] <brianherman> nanotube: JosefAssld could do that
[05:38] <theadmin> david__: No, use Firefox, Opera or Google Chrome
[05:38] <Xfact> thanks
[05:38] <JosefAss1d> however, the disc itself could conceivably be bad. I still suspect I need to address some disk driver/dma issues later, but yes doing the iso again would help eliminate that potential source of error
[05:38] <JosefAss1d> frigging pavilions
[05:38] <Losha> david__: you used to be able to. Dunno if it still works: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer
[05:38] <david__> i am just having problems with the flash
[05:39] <faileas> david__: there's ways to, but eh, IE isn't standards compliant mostly and pandering to that is bad. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page may be of help
[05:39] <afroman> dw
[05:39] <theadmin> david__: Flash for IE is not gonna work on Ubuntu anyway
[05:39] <david__> oh
[05:39] <david__> can i install konqurer on xubuntu
[05:39] <Losha> david__: what os version are you running. There are fixes for most flash issues...
[05:40] <faileas> david__: sure
[05:40] <dl> intresting issue btw, i thought it was the network but after booting the dreamlinux cd and installing audacious, i found it was my install not the network, very odd, very intresting and very ubuntu
[05:40] <david__> 9.04
[05:40] <theadmin> david__: If you're running Karmic or Jaunty, then type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" into the terminal, if you're running an earlier release, type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:40] <brianherman> theadmin: that would be epic flash for ie in wine
[05:40] <Gravy> Nation porn upload day on youtube
[05:40] <Gravy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H7w8e1k2Is
[05:40] <faileas> david__: but you might end up dragging in a crapload of dependancies
[05:40] <theadmin> Gravy: Don't spam.
[05:40] <faileas> Gravy: erf. anon silliness. grow up please ;)
[05:40] <brianherman> Gravy: uh... no porn in the linux room
[05:40] <afroman> Dr_Willis: and I will be looking for vsync?
[05:40] <plustax> Can anybody suggest something instead of songbird or rhythmbox that has album art cover flow or grid view and is awesome?
[05:41] <militant> cool, got everything working on ubuntu now.  except my mic, it sees the soundcard and uses it fine, but the mic pics up nothing
[05:41] <blakkheim> plustax: ncmpcpp
[05:41] <Out_Cold> Gravy, thank got i mute my laptop unless i need sound... :o/
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  thats proberly a setting to look for. Ive not really bothered looking in to it much. I see the tearing every so often. but im so uded to it - i rarely notice it
[05:41] <Out_Cold> **god
[05:41] <dl> but you will be happily listening ot your internet radio station and all of the sudden the audio will pause for a few seconds, happens a few times a minute....
[05:41] <plustax> militant did you adjust the input volume in sound settings?
[05:41] <Gravy> i try my best to make people
[05:41] <Gravy> sorry if it didnt work
[05:41] <isolat3dsh33p> militant: alsamixer -> unmute mic. :)
[05:41] <david__> thanks but will see if it works in a minute lol
[05:41] <Losha> Gravy: utterly boring. Like I can't find my own porn on the internet....
[05:41] <theadmin> david__: And restart the browser after it installs.
[05:42] <Gravy> i was just trying!
[05:42] <afroman> Dr_Willis: I don't know how U take it. it's driving me mad
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Huh? the internet has porn!?
[05:42] <Gravy> why do u have to bash me
[05:42] <Gravy> u hater
[05:42] <theadmin> Sheesh, people, don't go offtopic.
[05:42] <david__> yeah seems to
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> afroman:  i rareluy notice it on my anime and cooking shows..
[05:42] <|_ocke> is there a software firewall in effect?
[05:42] <|_ocke> in 9.10
[05:42] <blakkheim> iptables
[05:42] <Gravy> this one time
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> |_ocke:  not  installed with any rules by default
[05:42] <Gravy> pow right in the kisser!
[05:42] <Gravy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H7w8e1k2Is
[05:42] <nanotube> |_ocke: by default, all ports are open
[05:42] <FloodBot3> Gravy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <militant> isolat3dsh33p, that did it.  now it pics up nothing but a hiss/buzz but yes it's picking up
[05:43] <Losha> !ops | Gravy is posting porn urls
[05:43] <|_ocke> k
[05:43] <theadmin> !ot | Gravy
[05:43] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: yay anime! :)
[05:43] <plustax> Can anybody suggest something instead of songbird or rhythmbox that has album art cover flow or grid view and is awesome?
[05:43] <david__> worked great thanks
[05:43] <Gravy> !ops | Losha is a raging homo
[05:43] <Out_Cold> it's not porn... it's hannah montanna
[05:43] <theadmin> plustax: VLC does stuff for me :D
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  err.. thats worse..
[05:44] <nanotube> Gravy: lol, touche.
[05:44] <isolat3dsh33p> militant: you still can't record using the sound recorder though. I'm not sure how to either, but it'll work sometime.
[05:44] <david__> i have a toshiba laptop what linux do you think would be the best for it
[05:44] <Out_Cold> i know :(
[05:44] <Gravy> rofl
[05:44] <nanotube> Gravy: that said... knock it off before you get kicked.
[05:44] <Gravy> kk
[05:44] <Gravy> g2g anyway
[05:44] <faileas> david__: most laptops use similar hardware so...
[05:44] <faileas> since you're in #ubuntu, how about a nice ubuntu varient?
[05:45] <theadmin> david__: Expirement around. You might like Linux Mint since it comes with restricted drivers.... If you preffer RedHat-like distros, try Fedora... But I'd say sticking to Debian ones is a better idea.
[05:45] <elky> ick. sorry losha. had to check it out first.
[05:45] <Losha> elky: no problem....
[05:45] <david__> i am running xubuntu as of now just switched from kubuntu an have tried ubuntu an hoping to try lubuntu soon
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Distro of the Month Club. :)
[05:46] <nanotube> well, i'm going to sleep. good hangin with y'all!
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu - isent really worth trying. :) but you can install lubuntu-desktop package on a ubuntu system if you want to.
[05:46] <militant> isolat3dsh33p, skype won't pic up the mic neither will anything else.  fiddled with both front mic boost and the plain mic boost
[05:46] <theadmin> david__: lubuntu? What the heck is that?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu - caused some issues  last i used it... so be warned.
[05:46] <Out_Cold> never heard of the LXDE before
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  openbox + some extra tools..
[05:46] <Out_Cold> oh.. ewe
[05:46] <david__> i am not for sure but i know that it is in beta right now an is going to be up soon
[05:46] <owen1> uncmar: i think it's fat32 since i see vfat in the output of 'mount'
[05:47] <mranderson> i have a 64 bit laptop.  is there any advantage to using the 64 bit ubuntu over the 32 bit version?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  and its ewe for other ressons also. :)
[05:47] <david__> what is the edubuntu like
[05:47] <blakkheim> mranderson: there is no such thing as a 64 bit laptop
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> mranderson:  more ram avail. and faster encoding/other math intensive  tasks.
[05:47] <theadmin> david__: It's ubuntu with educational tools.
[05:47] <isolat3dsh33p> militant: I never used skype, so I can't really help :(
[05:47] <militant> isolat3dsh33p, it's an issue of *anything* picing up the mic, but your first help was doing enough, i appreciate it
[05:48] <rww> !ping | This is a random test
[05:48] <david__> i was just trying out a few of the others an was just wandering about it i downloaded feather an it dont work for me
[05:48] <Out_Cold> militant, last time i tried skype.. i had to restart alsa, use only the skype sound process, then restart alsa to use other sound after
[05:49] <militant> ok this time it picks up a humm but nothing else.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> david__:  tiny core linux - is fun to play with.. xpud is also amuseing.
[05:49] <militant> Out_Cold, .... ahhh ok.  don't let anything use the soundcard after restarting alsa, til i'm done with skype?
[05:49] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Uh, lol, but I think neither are real distros as such.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  depends on your needs...
[05:49] <Out_Cold> militant, that was my temp fix..
[05:49] <slacker> I added this line at install generic.all_generic_ide=1 (forces generic ide driver) it changed my lshw to IDE devices How do I restore the defaults?
[05:49] <Losha> theadmin: what makes a distro 'real'?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  tiny core can be  as full a disrto as you make it. :)
[05:50] <david__> i have had linux for about 3months an kinda new at the hole thing an was just trying a few
[05:50] <slacker> also my wifi0 turned into wlan0
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Losha:  not fake. :) like 'windows'
[05:50] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i'm rather fond of slitaz if i want a tiny distro
[05:50] <Losha> Dr_Willis: :-)
[05:50] <theadmin> Losha: Hm... Well, technically, I think it gotta have some desktop environment and initial set of programs to be 'normal'... not just a browser or something
[05:50] <militant> Out_Cold, you used 'alsactl init' ?
[05:51] <david__> i am not looking for a tiny bistro i am just looking for something sleek looking
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> david__:  check out some of the 'enlightment' based live cd's also. :) for some fun eyecandy
[05:51] <Losha> theadmin: interesting idea, not sure it would stand up in court though...
[05:51] <Out_Cold> /etc/init.d/alsa  restart i think... been a while militant
[05:51] <theadmin> david__: Oh, nice-looking :D Well, try enabling GNOME desktop effects :D and Linux Mint looks quite nice.
[05:51] <Shwack> Would anyone be willing to take a phone call from me (or you can call me i dont care)  and help me through recovering my home folder after changing passwords via  passwd command in terminal - I changed my password and now Ubuntu accepts the new password but won't decrypt my home folder - changing the password back to original hasn't worked
[05:51] <Losha> david__: a tiny bistro sounds adorable...
[05:52] <david__> the enlightment do they take up much space
[05:52] <theadmin> Losha: I know it wouldn't :D but i'z not gonna use a distro that doesn't have those. Well, whatever, that's kinda offtopic
[05:52] <sairam> how to compile java program in ubuntu
[05:52] <slacker> you could use netbeans
[05:52] <Out_Cold> sairam, don't compile... use the synaptic
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> david__:  enlightmnent is a  old/new/always getting redone desktop/window manager. it has some neat features.  check Disrtowatch.com to see what disrtos use it. i think eLive is one
[05:53] <david__> i love the way that ubuntu runs but i would just like to have more eye candy on it
[05:53] <Out_Cold> people always want to compile and don't understand why the deb system exists...
[05:53] <theadmin> david__: As stated, did you try enabling desktop effects and/or downloading themes? GNOME can look AWESOME.
[05:53] <brummbaer> david__: have you looked at installing the compiz-config manager?
[05:53] <militant> Out_Cold, you're fantastic.  that worked.  thanks
[05:54] <Out_Cold> XD
[05:54] <david__> no have never even heard of it lol
[05:54] <tawd> david__ did you download ccsm?
[05:54] <theadmin> david__: (GNOME is the Ubuntu's desktop)
[05:54] <theadmin> david__: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Desktop Effects, if I recall properly.
[05:54] <david__> i havent downloaded nothing yet just installed xubuntu about a hour ago
[05:55] <sairam> i am writing my program in gedit text editor
[05:55] <uncmar> david__: double negative.  haven't ... nothing
[05:55] <Out_Cold> militant, there is an issue with alsa taking hostage of apps and not allowing others to work prroperly
[05:55] <uncmar> david__: so you have downloaded something.
[05:55] <Gr3y> irc.synirc.net
[05:55] <brummbaer> hmmm... not familiar  w/ xubunu david__, it's designed to be a light-weight desktop, which is kind of contrary to the notion of eyecandy...
[05:55] <tawd> david__ dowanload ccsm from the ubuntu software center, then it will be under system > administration > advanced desktop effects i think
[05:56] <sairam> so i have to use terminal
[05:56] <david__> yeah i know
[05:56] <militant> Out_Cold, will remember that.  did you have to restart alsa again to have other apps use sound?
[05:56] <uncmar> brummbaer: I'm running ubuntu through openbox, so I'm missing most all the eye candy and... It is because my laptop doesn't seem to like the eye candy.
[05:56] <Out_Cold> militant, i think so yes
[05:56] <Out_Cold> militant, and if any x sounds happen it may mess the skype
[05:57] <militant> nope.  chrome just did sound on a youtube fine.  and i disable all notification sounds anyway in x
[05:57] <brummbaer> uncmar, openbox is awesome, i prefer the minimal systems. if you like openbox, you may be very interested in Crunchbang.
[05:57] <angelus> uncmar, maybe the original OS is jealous of Ubuntu's pwnsomeness
[05:57] <sairam> so what r the commands for compile and run a java program
[05:58] <theadmin> Anyway, why the heck does Ubuntu try to open FTP bookmarks in Firefox instead of Nautilus? This is really annoying.
[05:58] <david__> ok installed ccsm now what
[05:58] <david__> lol
[05:58] <uncmar> sairam: I don't know about compile but... run:   java program.java  or whatever java's extention is.
[05:58] <brummbaer> david__: play!
[05:58] <david__> ok
[05:58] <angelus> sairam, javac progName.java to compile; java progName  to run
[05:58] <militant> Out_Cold, i restarted alsa, did a skype test call, it worked, then i played a youtube, that worked, then did another test call without restarting alsa... so far it all works simultaneously now.  just FYI, it might be improving
[05:58] <Out_Cold> theadmin, i know in kde there is an option to set mime types... not sure in gnome
[05:59] <Out_Cold> militant, that's the ultimate goal ;)
[05:59] <theadmin> Out_Cold: But what mime type would FTP have? o_O
[05:59] <tawd> david__ it's somewhere in System.  i'm not on ubuntu ATM so i don't remeber, but it says like advanced effects
[05:59] <blakkheim> david__: run ccsm from terminal
[05:59] <uncmar> brummbaer: Crunchbang has been considered.  I like the eye-candy.  Just learned to live without it when my lappy was at 256Mb of RAM.
[05:59] <tawd> david__ then you check which ones you want, modify them if you want and set the key bindings
[05:59] <Out_Cold> theadmin, well mime, whatever... i know i could set http links to use firefox instead of konqueror
[06:00] <angelus> david__, System -> Preferences -> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[06:00] <militant> Out_Cold, thanks for the help.  gonna go talk to the female unit now (She's outta town temporarily, hence the skype)
[06:00] <Out_Cold> lol
[06:00] <Out_Cold> peace out..
[06:00] <Out_Cold> and don't sticky up the keyboard
[06:00] <theadmin> Out_Cold: Hm, GNOME has to have something similar... So far, I just have to open them via a terminal or running nautilus and then changing place
[06:00] <brummbaer> uncmar: crunchbang's a ton of fun, and despite the name, i found it to be stable as a rock. the community is tons of fun and there's some cool scripts to check out if you like conky and such.
[06:00] <militant> haha i'll try.
[06:01] <tawd> militant ;p
[06:01] <blakkheim> crunchbang is just ubuntu with openbox. is it that hard to install and use openbox on a regular ubuntu installation? :/
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  i never thought so
[06:01] <david__> anelus preferences not in system on this one
[06:01] <Out_Cold> theadmin, i only found it in kde... not sure if there is an equiv.... i was really sick of the web pages in konqueror and found that association app
[06:02] <uncmar> brummbaer: haven't done conky, keep hearing about it.  Rolled my own wireless.pl program.  now taskbar things, so no applets available so.  The NetworkManager was available.
[06:02] <theadmin> Out_Cold: Heh. All I had to do for that in KDE was removing Konqueror :D
[06:02] <Losha> blakkheim: I see plenty of google hits on installing openbox in ubuntu....
[06:03] <brummbaer> blakkheim, no it's not, but crunchbang is more than that. it comes w/ a whole different suite of default packages, and some custom configs/scripts,etc. just booting into OB from default ubuntu is quite different, though similar.
[06:03] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, most derivatives can be made from an original ubuntu install
[06:03] <HypothesisFrog> hi. My screensaver often just won't kick in. I just came home after a 5 hour absence, and found the screensaver had failed to launch.
[06:03] <blakkheim> i was being sarcastic. my point was that i don't think an entirely new distribution needs to be made for such a small change.
[06:03] <dsnyders> HypothesisFrog, Do you have an optical mouse?
[06:03] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, i've seen it done with less
[06:03] <HypothesisFrog> dsnyders yes
[06:03] <brummbaer> anyways, typing tappity is irking g/f, pc go bye-bye.
[06:04] <brummbaer> night all!
[06:04] <david__> how do i find things in the ccsm
[06:04] <dsnyders> HypothesisFrog, Sometimes, depending on the surface, the mouse pointer can "jitter".  As far as the computer is concerned, the mouse is moving so the screen saver never kicks in.
[06:04] <Losha> blakkheim: Oh right. Every fix of a typo seems to require a new distro. I'd willingly trade half a dozen distros for some well placed fixes to ubuntu...
[06:05] <tawd> david__ can you be more clear?
[06:05] <HypothesisFrog> dsnyders interesting thanks
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> david__:  tge ccsm tool has a search feature. :) shows how complex the tool is
[06:05] <HypothesisFrog> dsnyders so I probably just need a mouse mat. I will give that a try.
[06:05] <blakkheim> Losha: i guess they can do what they want. i don't even use ubuntu, but i think they should contribute to it instead of branching off on their own
[06:05] <david__> i ran ccsm through terminal an it opened up an there was nothing there
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[06:06] <dsnyders> HypothesisFrog, I'm not saying that this is what's causing your problem, though.
[06:06] <david__> yeah i know but when i type something in there it just tells me that it does not exist
[06:06] <Out_Cold> dsnyders, it's probably the quickest and easiest fix to test though
[06:06] <tawd> david__ what are you looking for?
[06:06] <dsnyders> HypothesisFrog, You could just try putting the mouse on a black t-shirt or something and seeing if it kicks in.
[06:06] <david__> just something sleek for xubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Err.. xubuntu dosent use compiz or ccsm.... by default
[06:07] <HypothesisFrog> dsnyders tanks
[06:07] <theadmin> david__: Xubuntu is intended to be quick, meaning not eye-candy
[06:08] <blakkheim> theadmin: and even then it fails at being quick, so he might as well use compiz
[06:08] <david__> ok
[06:08] <theadmin> Well I don't know why would I need something faster then Ubuntu which boots in 5 seconds :D
[06:08] <david__> well thanks
[06:09] <Out_Cold> i wish my box booted in 5 seconds
[06:09] <blakkheim> i think you mean it wakes up from sleep in five seconds
[06:09] <Out_Cold> i need one of those solid state netbooks lol
[06:09] <Losha> blakkheim: Political issues are much more stubborn than technical ones. You don't need much buy-in to spin your own distro....
[06:09] <blakkheim> unless you've got a bunch of SSDs in raid0 :P
[06:09] <theadmin> Out_Cold: Well, that, plus 5 second wait in GRUB menu (if I want to go to recovery mode, just in case lol)
[06:11] <plustax> Can anybody suggest something instead of songbird or rhythmbox that has album art cover flow or grid view and is awesome?
[06:11] <Out_Cold> my server takes about 30 secs... my laptop... has hardware issues.... takes about 20 secs
[06:11] <iOmlette> plustax: No such thing, sorry.
[06:11] <|_ocke> i got this share working with nfs
[06:11] <Out_Cold> something that started with e..
[06:11] <|_ocke> it was much easier
[06:11] <Out_Cold> exhaile maybe plustax
[06:11] <blakkheim> exaile
[06:11] <iOmlette> Hmm..
[06:12] <plustax> thank you Out_Cold
[06:12] <iOmlette> I suppose Exaile, but it's kind of meh.
[06:12] <plustax> ill check it out
[06:12] <blakkheim> i prefer mpd
[06:12] <theadmin> i0mlette: VLC had way to show album arts though, I'm not sure what the 'flow' bit means though
[06:12] <|_ocke> i just like xmms/audacious :P
[06:12] <songer> hello
[06:12] <theadmin> Hello, songer.
[06:12] <Out_Cold> vlc does the trick for me... rhythmbox for playlists
[06:13] <c_nick> hi how to copy the contents of one location into another
[06:13] <colombofish> nanotube: I followed the instructions for linuxSTA installtion. I restarted after installing the new driver. lsmod | grep "wl" shows the existing drivers. But when I use the GUI NM tool it doesn't activate the WIFI connection. My laptop's wifi button doesn't ON. Whatever combination I do with WPA, WEP and static IP the WIFI "check-box" is always unchecked and only the Wired Connection is checked. Should I do additional settings?
[06:13] <Out_Cold> c_nick, what and where??
[06:13] <blakkheim> c_nick: cp /source/file /target
[06:13] <songer>  my pc die, can i use my hard disk that it has ubuntu? on other pc
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> songer:  should be able to..
[06:14] <theadmin> c_nick: Or just with the windows style... Choose all them in nautilus, Ctrl+C, go to other folder, Ctrl+V...
[06:14] <c_nick> theadmin: no no not the windows style
[06:14] <c_nick> i prefer terminal style :)
[06:14] <Out_Cold> songer, you might need to reinstall the drivers/grub/root files
[06:14] <blakkheim> nice
[06:14] <c_nick> I have mounted a cdrom and i want to make a bootable U9.10 USB
[06:15] <Out_Cold> !usb > c_nick
[06:15] <c_nick> so now i am on the phase where i have to copy all the files from here to there
[06:15] <c_nick> yes i am on one of those links :)
[06:15] <songer> out_cold: how can i do that?
[06:15] <c_nick> and following them
[06:15] <iflema> c_nick: on the System menu under Administration theres a usb startup creator
[06:16] <c_nick> no that did not work well.. it ends up showing 1 error
[06:16] <iflema> c_nick: illtl go keep trying
[06:16] <theadmin> Can I somehow automate ownership changing of files/folders/other stuff that gets to my home directory? I mean, such command as "chown -r theadmin:theadmin ~/*" or something
[06:16] <c_nick> i think manually is also simple iflema :)
[06:16] <julio> ayuda con gigolo porfavooorrrr
[06:16] <c_nick> i just now have to copy contents from CD to the USB
[06:16] <julio> tengo xubuntu como lo conecto a ubuntu???
[06:16] <tos__> sad to say, i cant get ubuntu to support virtual ethernet adapters so i am switching to windows 7 as a server...
[06:17] <julio> hello
[06:17] <theadmin> !esp | julio
[06:17] <Out_Cold> songer, it'll cause headaches.... you can alternatively install ubuntu on your new computer, mount your old disk, copy what you want, then format the old disk to use as more space
[06:17] <julio> please
[06:17] <c_nick> so i went cp -r /media/CD /media/USB
[06:17] <julio> ok
[06:17] <julio> adm
[06:17] <c_nick> and it copied the Directory there instead of the contents
[06:17] <Out_Cold> !es
[06:17] <dsnyders> theadmin, you could put such a command into a cron file.
[06:17] <julio> ok sorry
[06:17] <cd> why don't use dd?
[06:17] <julio> i have a xubuntu laptop
[06:17] <theadmin> dsnyders: But I need to be root during that. So... it has to have some sudo. And that looks like it ain't gonna work
[06:18] <Out_Cold> c_nick, you might need to use sudo cp -r ....
[06:18] <julio> how can i get acces to remotefilesistems in ubuntu desktop?
[06:18] <uncmar> c_nick: trying to make a bootable USB?
[06:18] <c_nick> yeah i had done that
[06:18] <songer> out_cold: thanks
[06:18] <c_nick> yep
[06:18] <c_nick> instead of copying the directory.. how to copy only the contents of the directory
[06:18] <c_nick> sudo cp -r /from /to copies the entire directory
[06:18] <theadmin> c_nick: cp -r /path/to/dir/* /target
[06:18] <Out_Cold> cp -r /media/*
[06:19] <dsnyders> theadmin, there may be an option on the copy command.
[06:19] <iflema> c_nick: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-users/2009-09/msg00452.html
[06:19] <c_nick> oh ok
[06:19] <c_nick> will try
[06:19] <c_nick> thank
[06:19] <iflema> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[06:23] <Out_Cold> brrr... i wish my room was warmer than 10 C
[06:23] <dsnyders> What's a good host for virtual machines that allows them to be virtually "networked"?
[06:23] <theadmin> Out_Cold: sudo apt-get install really-hot-thing-into-my-room :D
[06:24] <bean> dsnyders: virtualbox...?
[06:24] <Out_Cold> theadmin... noted to self
[06:24] <uncmar> theadmin: installing hell?
[06:24] <theadmin> uncmar: ROFL.
[06:24] <dsnyders> Out_Cold, When was the last time you compiled a kernel?
[06:24] <Out_Cold> when i failed miserably at installing gentoo
[06:25] <Out_Cold> well not miserably.... but failed
[06:25] <julio> thanks everybody
[06:26] <Out_Cold> lesson be learned... gentoo handbook only gets you so far.... and gentoo is not a noobie distro
[06:26] <Out_Cold> ubuntu is XD
[06:26] <colombofish> Hi Experts! When I use the GUI NM tool and configure, it doesn't activate the WIFI connection. Also my laptop's wifi button doesn't get ON. Whatever combination I do with WPA, WEP and static IP the WIFI "check-box" is always unchecked and only the Wired Connection is checked. Should I do additional settings? Pls help!
[06:27] <m7yang> I put goodweather on my ubuntu 9.10 desktop via gDesklet, but when I rebooted my PC, the goodweather was gone. Any ideas?
[06:27] <Out_Cold> colombofish, lets play a bit... open a terminal and type ifconfig and paste the output to http://pastebin.com
[06:28] <Out_Cold> m7yang, you do not have the applet in your startup items
[06:28] <uncmar> colombofish: ifconfig encap
[06:28] <uncmar> colombofish: error.
[06:28] <uncmar> colombofish: ifconfig | grep encap
[06:28] <m7yang> but how to add it?
[06:28] <Out_Cold> m7yang, in the admin menu
[06:28] <Out_Cold> or preferences maybe...
[06:29] <dsnyders> bean, Does virtualbox run on top of a host OS, or in place of a host OS?
[06:29] <Out_Cold> uncmar, the encap is a handy filter... ty
[06:29] <maco> dsnyders: on top
[06:29] <Out_Cold> on top
[06:29] <uncmar> dsnyders: on top of.
[06:30] <uncmar> Out_Cold: I tried Link but  it returned the Scope: Link line as well.
[06:30] <uncmar> colombofish: iwconfig | grep "^ "
[06:31] <uncmar> colombofish: iwconfig | grep "^ "
[06:31] <dsnyders> !virtualization
[06:31] <Out_Cold> i didn't notice a difference with the "^ "
[06:32] <uncmar> Out_Cold: if you are connected with wirelss with will give a lot of connection details.
[06:32] <kevin__> Hello
[06:32] <Out_Cold> i am and it didn't :(
[06:32] <Out_Cold> !hi | kevin__
[06:32] <kevin__> Does anyone else have issues with Flash movies in their firefox on Karmic?
[06:32] <uncmar> Out_Cold: use -v   error in my posting.  grep -v "^ "
[06:33] <kevin__> Like buttons in the movies and controls don't work
[06:33] <Out_Cold> ahh... yea.. verbose
[06:33] <uncmar> colombofish: iwconfig | grep -v "^ "
[06:33] <bean> dsnyders: on top of, you could also check out vmware, thats a bit lower level than vbox
[06:33] <Out_Cold> kevin__, how so.. and which player?
[06:33] <uncmar> Out_Cold: no, not verbose.  It inverts the search.
[06:33] <sunny6789> hey whts up with the xubuntu project
[06:33] <sunny6789> ??
[06:33] <kevin__> Out_Cold the adobe flash player plugin and like play buttons and enter buttons
[06:33] <Losha> bean: lower level? Can you say more about what that means?
[06:34] <colombofish_> uncmar: iwconfig |grep "^ "lo        no wireless extensions.eth0      no wireless extensions.wmaster0  no wireless extensions.     Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated            Tx-Power=off          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off          Power Management:off          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0          Tx excessi
[06:34] <colombofish_> ve retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:34] <Out_Cold> uncmar, and removes wifi info
[06:34] <kevin__> like on gamespot I can't play a trailer because it has to have an enter button press and it doesn't work
[06:34] <Bingodingo> hey , has anyone testet the JTablet port on 9.10 ? my penpressure doenst work correctly there
[06:35] <Out_Cold> kevin__, have you installed flash plugin from the synaptic?
[06:35] <kevin__> yes
[06:35] <Out_Cold> kevin__, flash-nonfree?
[06:36] <kevin__> I have flashplugin-installer 10.0.42.34ubuntu0
[06:36] <navid> hi. i'm using karmic and sometimes my screen freezes and the only thing that works is mouse that moves but its keys don't work either all i have is just a useless arrow
[06:36] <Out_Cold> kevin__, and what about flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:36] <kevin__> no
[06:37] <kevin__> I'm getting that now though
[06:37] <colombofish_> uncmar: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:d4:eb:40:63   lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[06:37] <Out_Cold> kevin__, try that then see
[06:37] <c_nick> navid:  i am facing the same problem .. I see the desktop but i dont see any thing on desktop (whereas in /home/Desktop there are folders)
[06:37] <uncmar> colombofish_: wmaster0 shows Mode: Managed ?? but also no wireless extensions?
[06:37] <kevin__> no
[06:37] <kevin__> it still doesn't work
[06:37] <Out_Cold> kevin__, restart your browser
[06:38] <kevin__> I did
[06:38] <Out_Cold> what about ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:38] <colombofish_> uncmar: iwconfig|grep -v "^ " lo        no wireless extensions.eth0      no wireless extensions.wmaster0  no wireless extensions.wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[06:38] <kausal> Hello guys, I have a question..
[06:38] <uncmar> colombofish_: doesn't appear that the drivers are properly installed.  It isn't seeing a wlan0 or any other form of alias to the drivers.
[06:38] <navid> c_nick: what should i do with the folders?
[06:39] <uncmar> colombofish_: there it is.
[06:39] <c_nick> navid: which folders
[06:39] <kevin__> nope
[06:39] <kevin__> still no good
[06:39] <navid> c_nick: that u mentioned
[06:39] <kevin__> I even stopped the service and restarted it
[06:39] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:39] <uncmar> colombofish_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID
[06:39] <Out_Cold> kevin__, are you using firefox?
[06:39] <tom_selleck> a
[06:39] <kevin__> yes
[06:39] <navid> c_nick: i don't get it
[06:40] <c_nick> navid:  I am facing a similar problem like yours
[06:40] <Out_Cold> kevin__, try this link and tell me what it says http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[06:40] <c_nick> I see a desktop .. but the icons ,usb mountings, my files , my folders are missing
[06:40] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:40] <navid> c_nick: any solutions?
[06:40] <c_nick> but when i go in the directory.. i see all of them present
[06:40] <colombofish_> uncmar: emergency call I need to quit for now. I will come back soon and need yr help. Tx in advance
[06:41] <kevin__> it says I have version 10.0.42.34 installed
[06:41] <c_nick> navid: nope.. otherwise y would i repeat the same question
[06:41] <c_nick> :P
[06:41] <c_nick> try restarting
[06:41] <kevin__> but ok
[06:41] <navid> i always do that
[06:41] <kevin__> like on that page
[06:41] <kevin__> they have an Avatar install now button
[06:41] <kevin__> I can't press it
[06:41] <navid> c_nick: i always do that
[06:41] <kevin__> nothing happens
[06:41] <FloodBot3> kevin__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <uncmar> I have perl program that would likely just put him online in 5 minutes.  problem is that it isn't compatible with ubuntu's NetworkManager.
[06:42] <c_nick> ohk
[06:42] <kevin__> sorry Flood
[06:42] <navid> c_nick: but it's not the solution
[06:42] <Out_Cold> kevin__, i'm not sure then? maybe if you can find some other help in here..
[06:42] <kevin__> Out_Cold is there another flash player I can use?
[06:42] <navid> there must be something that solve it
[06:43] <c_nick> hmm
[06:43] <Out_Cold> !gnash | kevin__
[06:43] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:43] <c_nick> lets figure that ot
[06:43] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:43] <navid> i'm not a pro dear
[06:43] <Out_Cold> kevin__, remove adobe first though i think
[06:43] <c_nick> navid:  nor am i
[06:43] <c_nick> ;)
[06:44] <fusion> I have a really strange problem, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a acer aspire 5100 and the mouse buttons don't work.
[06:44] <Out_Cold> i think the only pro here is ubottu lol
[06:44] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:44] <Out_Cold> maybe a few more...
[06:44] <c_nick> navid:  search online .. i think we can find something in the ubuntu forums
[06:44] <kevin__> !gnash
[06:44] <fusion> I've tried difference mice also with the same problem
[06:44] <navid> anyone else can help?
[06:44] <navid> aha
[06:45] <kausal> Is Zone Routing Protocol implemented in the Real Time?
[06:45] <uncmar> kausal: I don't even know what Zone Routing Protocol is.
[06:45] <Out_Cold> !repeat > kausal
[06:46] <navid> c_nick: thank you though
[06:46] <c_nick> welcome
[06:46] <Losha> kausal: your question doesn't quite make sense. Can you re-phrase it....
[06:46] <uncmar> navid: what is your issue?
[06:46] <kevin__> ok installing gnash now
[06:46] <Ademos> Ubuntu 9.10 - installed latest updates: I'm getting this error when attempting to mount dvdrs in my dvdr drive: "[45694.580790] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"
[06:46] <Losha> uncmar: it's just another boring routing protocol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Routing_Protocol
[06:47] <c_nick> I was following this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media and in did everything under the section create a mountable USB manually .. but when i reboot it says boot error
[06:47] <kausal> Zone Routing Protocol is used in MANETs, I'm asking whether it is implemented
[06:47] <Out_Cold> c_nick, what's your boot priority in bios??
[06:47] <c_nick> USB
[06:47] <Out_Cold> c_nick, where is grub installed?
[06:48] <c_nick> on my hd0
[06:48] <kevin__> hmmm
[06:48] <c_nick> i think
[06:48] <kevin__> with gnash I just get black boxes where the flash movies should be
[06:48] <Out_Cold> c_nick, and is the usb bootable??
[06:48] <Out_Cold> kevin__, try clicking it?
[06:48] <kevin__> yeah I did
[06:48] <kevin__> nothing
[06:48] <uncmar> c_nick: creating bootable USB?  I've done that before.  I hope you are in it for the long hall and NEED it.  Cause those things can be tricky.
[06:49] <kevin__> right click you get movie controls and can see the about says gnash
[06:49] <kevin__> but it doesn't work
[06:49] <c_nick> I was following this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media and in did everything under the section create a mountable USB manually .
[06:49] <Out_Cold> not sure kevin__ there always seems to be some issues with flash and linux... works for most though
[06:50] <c_nick> uncmar: can you help me out
[06:50] <Losha> kausal: I don't think it is implemented in ubuntu. I'd never heard of it before you mentioned it...
[06:50] <uncmar> probably.
[06:51] <c_nick> ok you saw the link i was following ?
[06:51] <uncmar> c_nick: loading that link first to get an idea what you have been trying.
[06:51] <kevin__> Ok
[06:51] <c_nick>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media and in did everything under the section create a mountable USB manually .
[06:51] <Out_Cold> kevin__, you can play with those 2 flash plugins and firefox.. try a different approach?
[06:51] <kevin__> I'm reinstalling adobe flash and also including the dev libs and so on
[06:51] <kevin__> maybe I'm missing something
[06:51] <Ademos> Ubuntu 9.10: I'm not sure how to what this means or how to fix it --- "cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"
[06:52] <Out_Cold> kevin__, dev libs are only really useful if you are building adobe from source
[06:52] <uncmar> c_nick: have you booted usb of any kind on that particular PC or have you tested the USB boot you created on any other systems.
[06:52] <c_nick> uncmar: i tried with another usb and it worked on my system
[06:52] <uncmar> c_nick: the BIOS boot options are the first hurlde.
[06:52] <c_nick> i installed Ubuntu from that USB
[06:53] <Out_Cold> good night all!
[06:53] <uncmar> which version of are you trying to make bootable?
[06:53] <c_nick> U9.10
[06:53] <kevin__> hmm
[06:53] <iflema> c_nick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[06:53] <kevin__> getting closer actually
[06:54] <uncmar> c_nick: 9.10 Live?
[06:54] <c_nick> donno ..
[06:54] <uncmar> c_nick: 9.10 Desktop.  not server version?
[06:54] <c_nick> desktop
[06:55] <haresh> hello need some help when i play a sound i cant hear it i try eveything already how can i check whats the fault
[06:55] <militant> anyone know where chrome's cache is, for like jacking .flv's ?
[06:55] <paissad-hp> i hesitate to choose the most suitable filesystem for a debian/ubuntu repository ... (ext3 or ext4 or something else ) .... it's a partition just for .deb and source
[06:55] <uncmar> c_nick: UNetbootin is not the best route to go.  there are better options.
[06:55] <paissad-hp> may someone advice me ?
[06:56] <c_nick> ?
[06:56] <c_nick> UNetbootin ??
[06:56] <uncmar> c_nick: which version are you currently running? or do you have a bootable CD?
[06:56] <ziroday> paissad-hp: ext3 would be recommended as it is considered to be more stable then ext4
[06:56] <navid> uncmar: sorry i weren't at my desk my problem is freezing my desktop in karmic
[06:56] <paissad-hp> ziroday, ok thx
[06:56] <c_nick> I dont have a bootable CD.. only an iso file.. i am currently having U9.10 Desktop version installed on my machine
[06:56] <spO> samba doesn't start at startup. I tried updated-rc samba defaults  .... but it says the links are already there evne though it doesn't start at startup
[06:57] <uncmar> c_nick: what version are you currently running?  The 9's have a USB boot creator in the system menu. for Ubuntu.
[06:58] <uncmar> c_nick: just had a frightful thought.  You are running Windwows?
[06:58] <fusion> nobody else has had a mouse issue?
[06:59] <c_nick> nope uncmar been quite a while since i was on Windows :)
[06:59] <c_nick> no USB boot creator works but while installation it gives an error
[06:59] <uncmar> navid: have you looked at your xorg.log in /var/log ?
[06:59] <iflema> c_nick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles theres options there for win mac lin. 4 lin graphical and command line. dd is used in the command line stuff
[06:59] <twb> I have an 8.04 LTS desktop and a SATA CD drive.  The former doesn't appear to auto-detect the latter.
[06:59] <spO> samba doesn't start when i boot up , but I did  update-rc.d samba defaults and it doesnt' change anything
[06:59] <twb> Does 8.04 support SATA CDs at all?
[06:59] <fusion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/479033 I have this same problem. help?
[06:59] <c_nick> ok iflema currently following that only
[07:00] <dsnyders> c_nick, check www.pendrivelinux.com.  I think they have instructions for booting an ISO off of a USB
[07:00] <MagicVibe> hi could someone assist me? i have a fresh install of unbunt 9.10 but i cant seem to get the broadcom (wired)ethernet to connect with my router....
[07:00] <MagicVibe> fairly new user here<--
[07:01] <uncmar> c_nick: what was the error?
[07:01] <c_nick> ok .. but first with iflema here
[07:01] <c_nick> i am following her site
[07:01] <c_nick> uncmar:  Boot error
[07:01] <c_nick> thats all
[07:01] <c_nick> then it said loading GRUB
[07:01] <c_nick> and my Normal Ubuntu started
[07:01] <uncmar> c_nick: never got a menu?
[07:01] <c_nick> nope
[07:02] <uncmar> c_nick: are you sure your USB boot is set for HDD or Harddrive or ZIP and not Floppy?
[07:02] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[07:02] <brianherman> uncmar: doesn't grub by default disable the display of grub
[07:02] <uncmar> c_nick: some systems don't auto-detect.
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> hello
[07:03] <c_nick> uncmar: uhh,,, it does :)
[07:03] <c_nick> iflema: doing sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/devicenode bs=1M
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> I am attempting to make my soundcard work, how do I rebuild the packages for my soundcard like ALSA and such?
[07:03] <fuzzykittens> or download drivers
[07:03] <c_nick> whats dd and bs ?
[07:04] <luckymurali> I am using ubuntu server 64 bit, my network printer is attached with the windows ,How can i access that printer???
[07:04] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: dl drivers
[07:04] <DaZ> c_nick: man dd
[07:04] <luckymurali> please tell me
[07:04] <DaZ> and bs is dd parameter.
[07:04] <dsnyders> c_nick, dd is disk duplicate, bs is block size
[07:04] <c_nick> ohk
[07:04] <iflema> %
[07:04] <uncmar> c_nick: man dd.  It is a disk dump or data duplicate or whatever.  It is RAW copy of drive data.
[07:05] <uncmar> luckymurali: is it shared from windows?
[07:05] <iflema> c_nick dd will not leave you any space
[07:05] <iflema> freespce
[07:05] <luckymurali> uncmar, yes
[07:05] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: dl drivers?
[07:05] <spO> samba doesn't start when I boot up, I did a update-rc.d samba defaults  but it doesn't work
[07:05] <octaveous> hi all,. i have this error while building OMNETPP on ubuntu,   opp_makemake: --deep is neither an existing file/dir nor a valid option
[07:05] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: download drivers
[07:05] <octaveous> can anyone help
[07:06] <c_nick> iflema: dd is convert and copy.. got that if is input file of is output file but the last thing bs=1M
[07:06] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: okay, I am running on a server, SSH, no gui, I don't feel like messing with links. is there no apt-get to get drivers?
[07:06] <c_nick> thats byte Size = 1 MB ??
[07:06] <iflema> block size i imagine iM
[07:06] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: apt-cache search drivername
[07:07] <kevin__> hmm
[07:07] <kevin__> Out_Cold
[07:07] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: thanks
[07:07] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: you might not find the driver you are looking for, but then again, you might.
[07:07] <kevin__> using my windows system I see that there are missing date entries in the flash movie
[07:07] <c_nick> hmm ok
[07:07] <iflema> c_nick: block size = 1Mb
[07:08] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: yeah, got no idea how many things I just got from apt-cache search audio
[07:08] <c_nick> difference between block and bytes
[07:08] <fuzzykittens> is there no blanket xf86-audio drivers?
[07:08] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: which audio card?
[07:09] <luckymurali> which cups i need to install to use my printer attached on windows systems???
[07:09] <iflema> c_nick and what you said
[07:09] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: some random card I just tossed in the machine
[07:09] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: no there is no blankets in linux
[07:09] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: only nails
[07:09] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: lspci -v | less
[07:09] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: I do archlinux, blanket is a loose term
[07:09] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: look for you sound card in there.
[07:10] <c_nick> iflema:  1 Block = 512 Bytes :)
[07:10] <uncmar> fuzzykittens: less will let you naviage up and down the returned data.
[07:10] <fuzzykittens> uncmar: I know
[07:10] <c_nick> so you are setting the Block size to a MB
[07:10] <fuzzykittens> !not-a-noob
[07:10] <c_nick> so now 1 Block is 1000 Bytes
[07:10] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: use the / character to search
[07:11] <myremixhelp> help me, how to configure my netbook webcam
[07:11] <fuzzykittens> brianherman: well, I'll just leave the channel because I hate being treated like a complete noob
[07:11] <iflema> c_nick input block size.... sounds like hddd talk... me not sure
[07:11] <kevin__> locate halo
[07:11] <uncmar> brianherman: I'll let fuzzykittens use vi next.  <evil grin>
[07:11] <c_nick> hmm
[07:11] <kevin__> opps
[07:11] <c_nick> ok done now restarting.. keep your fingures crossed
[07:11] <kevin__> wrong window
[07:11] <brianherman> uncmar: lol
[07:11] <iflema> uhuh
[07:12] <uncmar> sensitive people.  I don't know a person's level until the tell me.  sheesh.
[07:12] <octaveous> ﻿hi all,. i have this error while building OMNETPP on ubuntu,   opp_makemake: --deep is neither an existing file/dir nor a valid option
[07:12] <brianherman> octaveous: paste the error to lisp.paste.org
[07:12] <Fog> ubuntu is only allowing me to have 2 work spaces, it used to allow 4, what happened?
[07:13] <myremixhelp> anybody help me? give me a link to configure my camera laptop on buntu 9.10
[07:13] <brianherman> fog: right click the workspace switcher
[07:13] <iflema> Fog: right click on the switcher
[07:13] <mediaprodigy> trying to use Ubtuntu Software Center but do not see the install button... running 9.10.. does anyone have the same issue
[07:13] <uncmar> Fog: 2 thoughts.  Setting or memory limit.
[07:13] <Fog> thanks
[07:13] <octaveous> brianherman:  is that an irc channel? i cant find it
[07:13] <ian_> my laptop acts like it doesn't see the battery when it resumes from the suspend state.
[07:14] <brianherman> octaveous: Copy your terminal output and paste it to http://paste.lisp.org
[07:14] <uncmar> octaveous: no, it is a website you paste your data there and then give us the link to see it.
[07:14] <uncmar> octaveous: prevents channel flooding.
[07:14] <octaveous> thx will do it in a second
[07:14] <myremixhelp> my laptop can't play mp3 file too? why?
[07:15] <brianherman> octaveous: try this: apt-get install omnetpp
[07:15] <sumoduno> myremixhelp> do u have the restricted extras?
[07:15] <myremixhelp> i run it from usb
[07:15] <brianherman> fuzzykittens: are you still haveing trouble?
[07:16] <ian_> why would my computer act like it's hooked up to ac power when it's not?
[07:16] <sumoduno> is there like a ccleaner thing for ubuntu?
[07:16] <mediaprodigy> I am able to search and display apps.. in software center but unable to download them... install button is missing.. can anyone provide some feedback.. someone mentioned it depended on the bit version that i am running.
[07:16] <uncmar> brianherman: fuzzykittens left.
[07:16] <myremixhelp> how to run repository online?
[07:16] <uncmar> sumoduno: what is that? a cache cleaner?
[07:17] <sumoduno> uncmar yea.
 well for windows it is crap cleaner. it cleans like the registry and what not
[07:18] <Moc> How do I remove a package, but the i386 arch only of the package ?
[07:18] <mediaprodigy> Also, i run Computer Janitor and i get the following message: "Essential package dash is missing. There may be problems with apt source.list or Packages files may be missing? can anyone provide any assistance or insight?
[07:18] <crash21081> What's the difference between /dev/ttyS1 and /dev/ttyHS1 ?
[07:18] <iflema> myremixhelp: try the application cheese.. if cam works then ya on.
[07:18] <iflema> myremixhelp: janitor can be risky... yeah
[07:18] <uncmar> sumoduno: well, ubuntu doesn't have a registry.  the /tmp/ folder is wiped new everytime you start. Browsers have there own settings for removing the cache.
[07:19] <uncmar> sumoduno: the only other thing I can think of is /var/cache
 hm. but i installed all this crap on my computer and i uninstalled it. now there are empty folders everwhere. or folders that contain data i dont need. any way to delete them besides manually?
[07:20] <uncmar> mediaprodigy: dash.  Isn't that a shell?
[07:20] <iflema> myremixhelp: do you have little free harddrive space? if not avoid that one i say... janitor that is
[07:21] <uncmar> sumoduno: you used remove?
[07:21] <steven_> Is oodraw supposed to be the oo's replacement for Adobe Illustrator?  It appears to me.
[07:21] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: what does "which dash" tell you?
[07:21] <ian_> is there something i said to offend someone?  if so, i promise it wasn't intentional.
 from synaptic
[07:21] <uncmar> sumoduno: I bet you didn't go cli.  Humm, used synaptic. Hmm. you don't want to remove those programs you want to purge them.
[07:22] <uncmar> ian_: so it is a laptop?
[07:22] <ian_> yeah
[07:22] <Xfact> when the Lcuid lynxwill out then direct update to it from hardy will be possible?
[07:22] <c_nick> I finished with dd then i rebooted.. i checked the booting priority i got a grub menu and in that it gave me 4 options.. when i selected the first it just generally booted
[07:22] <mneptok> Xfact: yes
 whats the command to uninstall from cli?
[07:22] <c_nick> it was not like any other stuff like Install Ubuntu or Run Ubuntu without making any changes
[07:22] <c_nick> etc
[07:23] <c_nick> plus the file system now is isofs
[07:23] <uncmar> ian_: did you use an noapic or no acpi switch during install for any reason?  Sounds like Power Management is disabled.
[07:23] <Xfact> oh! then it's easier then updating again and again to normal releases 8.10>9.04 then finally 9.10!
[07:23] <c_nick> iflema, your site.. i followed and i got this.. cau you help me out
[07:23] <crash21081> Excuse me.  Can I forward the port /dev/ttyHS1 to /dev/ttyS1?
[07:23] <iflema> c_nick: i did say ittl leave you no free space..
[07:24] <ian_> well i didn't notice actually, i just installed it with all of the default settings.
[07:24] <uncmar> sumoduno: sudo apt-get purge program-package; sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:24] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: i am new to ubuntu so i am still learning about it..
[07:24] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: type "which dash" (no quotes) in a terminal
[07:24] <iflema> c_nick: its just like a cdrom
[07:24] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: just got it installed.. and i am trying to install a vnc solution.. but not sure if these errors are normal
[07:24] <c_nick> iflema,  but that also is not working.. like in the earlier it said replace isolinux with syslinux
[07:25] <c_nick> this has syslinux if i try to edit it say read only medium
 ah yes. thank you. ill do that from now on
[07:25] <Xfact> anybody knows any cool games for ubuntu to time pass?
 runescape. LOL
[07:26] <ian_> but i did notice something about apic in the installation menu.
[07:26] <mneptok> Xfact: i've been playing Maelstrom for ~17 years :)
[07:26] <iflema> c_nick: arghh... extract iso, mess with whatever, mkisofs back together and dd
[07:26] <sumoduno> oh another question. i have 2 dvds and i want to create one iso file from it. what programs do u guys recommend?
[07:26] <uncmar> Xfact: any game involving a penguin would be cool cause pengiuns live in cold areas and are always cool.
[07:26] <iflema> c_nick: ive missed the earlier part of ya conversation. sorry
[07:26] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: /bin/dash
[07:27] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: so it's obviously not missing
[07:27] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: that Computer Janitor app has severe problems, IMO. i'd never use nor recommend it.
[07:27] <c_nick> iflema, ??
[07:27] <c_nick> extract iso?
[07:28] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: well i was trying to figure out why the software center displays apps but no install buttons
[07:28] <uncmar> c_nick: problem with mkisofs may not keep the boot flag intact when creating the iso.
[07:28] <Xfact> uncmar: best one!
[07:28] <iflema> c_nick: right click on the image file if ya in gnome and open with archive manager
[07:29] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: so i was trying to determine what bit version i have.. someone mentioned it might have something to do with it..
[07:29] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: "bit version?"
[07:29] <chiisai> helloes. I just ran dist-upgrade to upgrade a few packages that had been held back for a while. this completed successfully (according to logs). now, whenever I boot, nothing happens after "* Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables." (the tables are fine). the last line of dmesg is always "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode." (the filesystems are also fine, I've ran fsck). so, it appears the boot proces
[07:29] <c_nick> ok n
[07:30] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: 32 bit vs 64 bit... or maybe they were pulling my leg.
[07:30] <c_nick> hmm ok
[07:30] <c_nick> i got you iflema
[07:30] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: uname -a
[07:30] <iflema> c_nick: sorry to put off ya mission
[07:31] <c_nick> iflema, how  to mkisofile from the extracted one
[07:31] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick: i seen another graphical app on the link i sent earlier you try that?
[07:31] <c_nick> yea
[07:31] <Xfact> mealstrom is not a good game (i think)
[07:31] <c_nick> but does not good
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick: man mkisofs
[07:31] <Xfact> How is Aline Ariana ?
[07:31] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: 2.5.31-14-generic #48
[07:31] <iflema> c_nick woops
[07:32] <ian_> i'm still very new with using ubuntu, and the only reason i've installed it so many times is because i've experimented with doing things with the terminal, so it's not because i'm annoyed or anything, i just like to try things different ways pretty much.  :)
[07:32] <Xfact> anybody please suggest me a good game to pass my boring times :)
[07:32] <zamboli> lagno
[07:32] <uncmar> ian_: cat /prroc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep "ging stat"
[07:32] <iflema> c_nick: its there but noi man pages
[07:32] <uncmar> ian_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep "ging stat"
[07:32] <Xfact> ???
[07:33] <sumoduno> i have 2 dvds and i want to create one iso file from it. what programs do u guys recommend?
[07:33] <mneptok> Xfact: sudo apt-get install wesnoth-all
[07:33] <ian_> thanks, i'll try that.
[07:33] <zamboli> i can't beat the computer in lagno
[07:33] <c_nick> Xfact,  how about videogames
[07:33] <c_nick> you have dosbox installed.. then just find the videogames online and start playing
[07:33] <mediaprodigy> mneptok: thanks.. i hope it fixes it.. cheers
[07:34] <Xfact> c_nick: any cool game that plays on Ubuntu
[07:34] <c_nick> nice games like kungfu fighter etc
[07:34] <mneptok> mediaprodigy: np
[07:34] <uncmar> Xfact: I tend to play soduko.
[07:34] <iflema> Xfact: age?
[07:34] <zamboli> chess
[07:34] <iflema> Xfact: theres a good fps
[07:34] <Xfact> I am 13 but I've already player GTA san Andres  (so i think it doesn't matter) :)
[07:35] <Xfact> *played
[07:35] <iflema> Xfact nexuiz
[07:35] <DaZ> urban terror <:
[07:35] <uncmar> ian_: that will only display your charging status.  In otherwords whether you have a battery or not.
[07:35] <Xfact> iflema: it should not be kid game....
[07:35] <Xfact> looking....
[07:35] <iflema> Xfact: its not
[07:35] <mindstorm> if you like FPS games, nexuiz is nice
[07:35] <Xfact> thanks for suggestions :0
[07:35] <ian_> it says charging state: discharging
[07:35] <uncmar> ian_: charging state:     charging
[07:36] <uncmar> ian_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[07:36] <afroman> hello. I have screen tearing problem, especially when watching videos. I have ati radeon mobility hd 3470
[07:37] <nomad77>  /cl
[07:37] <uncmar> ian_: do it again a few seconds later and see if the present voltage value decreases.
[07:37] <jellow> Xfact try tremulous aswell or enermy trritory
[07:37] <BlackCow> so i updated from 9.04 to 9.10, it totally borked my install, when i try to boot it up it says something about a mountall errror terminated with status 127
[07:37] <Xfact> currently installing game 'wesnorth' I hope it'll be a cool game :)
[07:37] <jellow> Xfact: enemy territory*
[07:37] <BlackCow> anyone else run into that problem? I searched forums and people just said to reformat
[07:38] <Xfact> jellow: thanks
[07:38] <ian_> yeah it did a little bit, actually it seems to be working fine right now, but i can suspend it and see if it causes the problem again.
[07:38] <Xfact> all games on count...I'll install all 1 by 1
[07:38] <afroman> anybody can help me with screen tearing?
[07:38] <uncmar> BlackCow: ouch, I would try to recover any data I could before a reformat.
[07:39] <uncmar> ian_: um, if it says discharging, then the AC does not appear to be attached and you are running on battery.
[07:39] <iflema> Xfact: flight gear, billard, warsow, chromium... try chromium.
[07:39] <BlackCow> yeah, my important stuff is backed up on my other partition, im sure i could boot up on back track to make sure i have everything, i just dont think i can trust an upgrade anymore :-/
[07:40] <Xfact> yes, my I am also sick of 'screen tearing' can anybody tell me why it' happening and how to remove it?
[07:40] <ian_> yes i am, but it shows the battery icon right now like it should.  but whenever my computer wakes up after being suspended, it doesn't show the battery icon at all, and it shows the power source as ac under the power menu.
[07:40] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: 9.04  to 9.10 upgrades,  yes those are known to go bad.  upgrading useually is fine though
[07:40] <iflema> Xfact: you got 3d eabled?
[07:40] <uncmar> BlackCow: oh, well, I never have.  I had too many problems with Windows upgrades in the past.
[07:41] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: those Ext3 9.04 installs won't be converted to Ext4 on upgrade, and no Grub 2 either on upgrade
[07:41] <Xfact> iflema: I guess it's enabled in default, but how to check it weather it's enabled or not?
[07:41] <Xfact> *by default
[07:42] <iflema> Xfact: argh usually no. nvidia ati intel... what u got  4 graphics
[07:42] <BlackCow> is that the reason why, because i know my 9.04 install was on Ext3, does it screw up trying to go to Ext4?
[07:42] <c_nick> iflema, how to make a iso file from a folder
[07:42] <c_nick> i tried with man mkisofs gave error
[07:42] <uncmar> Xfact: lspci | grep VGA
[07:42] <Fog> how come in compiz when I hold alt and scroll-wheel down it doens't decrease the window's opacity?
[07:42] <Xfact> I use Nvidia Gforec 6100 nForec 405 graphic card with 256 Mb graphic ram...
[07:43] <ian_> and it also doesn't dim the display.
[07:43] <iflema> Xfact the sytem menu / administration / hardware drivers
[07:43] <Xfact> and I am also having latest driver for it
[07:43] <iflema> c_nick: whatd it say?
[07:43] <c_nick> e 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[07:43] <Xfact> iflema: yes the driver is already enabled....
[07:43] <uncmar> ian_: lucky you.  I don't think I can suspend my laptop.
[07:43] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: no  it does not even try to upgrade to Ext4
[07:43] <iflema> Xfact: tearing?
[07:44] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: it's other things why it didn't go well, but I am not sure what exactly
[07:44] <Xfact> iflema: should i change some settings on 'nvidia X server control panel'?
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> sarg (squid analysis report generator) is completely unusable in ubuntu 9.10 :/  can someone update it to version 2.2.6?
[07:44] <iflema> Xfact: hard to say..
[07:44] <Xfact> iflema: yes tearing sometimes with desktop (compiz) animations or with video playing...(mainly in fast movements)
[07:45] <iflema> c_nick: ill google how to mkisofs.. i forget
[07:45] <c_nick> mkisofs -o cd.iso cd_dir
[07:45] <Xfact> anybody can help...cause I think it's not a uncommon problem
[07:45] <c_nick> here they are stating an option -R -r
[07:45] <c_nick> i am not able to understand what to chose and how to go about it..
[07:46] <iflema> c_nick: http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/mkisofs8.html
[07:46] <ian_> it's not really a big deal i guess, but thanks for helping me anyways.
[07:46] <sebsebseb> BlackCow: have a look at the release notes to find out about some of the 9.10 issues
[07:46] <sebsebseb> !9.10 | BlackCow
[07:46] <uncmar> ian_: I use to could hibernate but it throws errors now. :(
[07:47] <iflema>  Xfact: you have the power? cpu, ram etc....
[07:47]  * uncmar installed conky and doesn't know how to use it.
[07:47] <ian_> see my solution to that would be a reinstall, but i'll probably end up damaging my disc drive eventually or something.  haha.
[07:47] <BlackCow> ive got the partition mounted in backtrack right now, besides my home directory can i back up any gnome settings?
[07:48] <uncmar> ian_: I didn't reinstall.  From fluxbuntu 7.10 to ubuntu 9.04.  it worked under 7.10 but not 9.04
[07:49] <Xfact> iflema: what kind of power, I have 2.01 GHz AMD atlon CPU with 1 GB DDR II ram and realtek HD sound card and that Nvidia card like other normal normal computers
[07:49] <ian_> oh okay, actually my sound didn't work with 9.04, but it works with 9.10.
[07:49] <hRedBeard> hi all
[07:50] <hRedBeard> Anyone see or know of an gnome app to manage multiple SSHFS mounts?
[07:50] <hRedBeard> even KDE would be OK
[07:50] <iflema> Xfact: just checkn the fundamentals...
[07:51] <Xfact> : : : : : : : : :
[07:51] <uncmar> hibernate:warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[07:51] <uncmar> Some modules failed to unload: nvidia
[07:51] <uncmar> hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist
[07:51] <c_nick> iflema, so i go mkisofs -o mycd.iso /home/me/file will it work
[07:52] <iflema> Xfact: to make iso with alternate contents... if its the man its in the man
[07:52] <Xfact> [[07:52] <Xfact>  
[07:53] <Xfact> iflema: Actually I don't understand anything,,,, remember I am just 13
[07:54] <Xfact> well thanks .... i would google about it...
[07:54] <uncmar> That explains the gaming questions.
[07:59] <gravityblock> hi
[08:00] <paykoob> hi all. what's the best software for edit MP3 tags?
[08:02] <iflema>  paykoob: Ex Falso does just fine
[08:03] <iflema>  paykoob: and all the media players/most
[08:05] <paykoob> iflema: thanks all
[08:05] <militant> what's the quickest little cmdline tool to convert a flac to an mp3?  i'm only gonna use it once on like a 3 second file
[08:05] <Alan502> paykoob, amarok has an auto mp3 tagger
[08:06] <c_nick> no luck
[08:06] <crash21081> militant:  ffmpeg -f file.flac file.mp3  Something like that.
[08:06] <militant> crash21081, sweet thx
[08:06] <crash21081> I forget the flag.
[08:06] <crash21081> So you have to fix it yourself.
[08:07] <Maletor> should i put ext4 on my flash drive?
[08:07] <MASARUwota> if you dont want windows to be able to read it, YES
[08:08] <c_nick> iflema: help me
[08:08] <Maletor> F$CK msft as far as i'm concerned
[08:08] <MASARUwota> Maletor: =)
[08:08] <c_nick> damn thing does not work
[08:08] <MASARUwota> c_nick: whats happening?
[08:08] <MASARUwota> !doesntwork|c_nick
[08:08] <c_nick> cant create a usb bootable
[08:09] <MASARUwota> c_nick: ON ubuntu
[08:09] <c_nick> yes
[08:09] <MASARUwota> k
[08:09] <Maletor> It's pretty funny in Ubuntu I have to adjust for overscan but in Windows 7 I have underscan. Go figure.
[08:10] <c_nick> MASARUwota: i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[08:11] <MASARUwota> c_nick: thats  for windows, to create an ubuntu bootable disk
[08:11] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:11] <c_nick> huh
[08:11] <c_nick> scroll down :)
[08:11] <MASARUwota> c_nick: or the second one? :p
[08:11] <MASARUwota> LOL nvm :X
[08:11] <c_nick> both
[08:12] <MASARUwota> c_nick: do you get errors or what?
[08:12] <c_nick> no errors
[08:12] <MASARUwota> c_nick: so, it works? :/
[08:12] <c_nick> it just does not boot from usb
[08:12] <c_nick> i saw in bootmenu everything etc
[08:13] <MASARUwota> c_nick: so you set the BIOS up right?
[08:13] <c_nick> duh yea
[08:13] <MASARUwota> c_nick: just checking ;)
[08:13] <ugliefrog__> whats the command to got to cli mode and then come back...hope that made since
[08:14] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: ctrl+alt+backspace, i think, is to kill X
[08:14] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: then just logout and log in to reset X, and you can use it again
[08:14] <c_nick> so can someone help me ?
[08:14] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, thanks ill give it a try
[08:15] <MASARUwota> c_nick: well, its the least busy time of the day. europeans are at work and americans are sleeping
[08:15] <rzm61_> How would you go about changing the boot order on a dual boot ubuntu box?
[08:15] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: what do you want to accomplish?
[08:15] <rzm61_> boot regular Ubuntu 9.10 first instead of Ubuntu Studio
[08:15] <MASARUwota> whats with all the underscores in peoples name :/
[08:15] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: both show up in your GRUB?
[08:16] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, ive got a cli browsser and wanted to see how it performed in cli....curious
[08:16] <rzm61_> Yeah, with a ton of options as well. Is that normal?
[08:16] <MASARUwota> ugliefrog__: just open a terminal then :p
[08:16] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: you installed ubuntu studio LAST?
[08:16] <ugliefrog__> MASARUwota, lol...ive done that...wanted to see it in pure cli
[08:16] <Ilmatic> How do you mask your user info in these chat rooms?
[08:16] <nuker> y0
[08:17] <Ilmatic> I feel so exposed..
[08:17] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: yeah it probably is normal
[08:17] <rzm61_> Yes. Is that going to be a problem?
[08:17] <rzm61_> I figured
[08:17] <nuker> hello
[08:17] <nuker> ♥
[08:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: ask for a cloak in #freenode, i think
[08:17] <ugliefrog__> i know theres a way to go back in forth from x to cli just cant remeber the commands
[08:17] <Ilmatic> What the heck is #freenode?
[08:17] <faileas> ugliefrog__: easy way is control alternate f1 to f6
[08:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: the main channel of freenode irc :/
[08:17] <MASARUwota> make snese doesnt it
[08:18] <faileas> ugliefrog__:  ctrl alt f7 will bring you back to the x session you were on
[08:18] <ugliefrog__> faileas, thats it...ty
[08:18] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: edit your menu.lst file and just select and pull it under the other options
[08:18] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:19] <acamilo> Hello, i have a mildly random question regarding ipv6. ping6 wont accept a link-local fe80 address unless i specify the interface. however, it will acccept ::1 . Is this because i have two interfaces both with link local addresses?
[08:19] <rzm61_> okay, and here is a colorful question....where would I find the menu.lst? Should I open it through the terminal?
[08:19] <faileas> er.. if its the latest, there's no menu.lst ;p
[08:19] <nuker> hey can i open iso to ext3 drive and install the grub and save changes to menu.lst its work for me i don't have dvd drive
[08:19] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: its an editable file, i suggest opening gedit as root: open a terminal and type: gksudo gedit
[08:20] <MASARUwota> does ubuntu studio use grub1 or grub2? :/
[08:20] <Ilmatic> Masaru: do I just go in there and ask for one?
[08:20] <rzm61_> Alright, so far so good
[08:20] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: the file is probably /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:20] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: thats what i did =)
[08:21] <rzm61_> Alright, let me take a look
[08:21] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: PLEASE back it up first D:
[08:21] <nuker> :(
[08:21] <rzm61_> as in save it?
[08:21] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: yeah, just save it next to it like menu.lst.backup or something
[08:21] <rzm61_> before i make changes of course
[08:21] <MASARUwota> yeah :p
[08:21] <faileas> rzm61_: under another name. if bad things happen you can change it back with a livecd
[08:22] <rzm61_> yeah
[08:22] <nuker> bye
[08:22] <rzm61_> this is going to be fun
[08:22] <rzm61_> I love dicking around with Ubuntu
[08:22] <MASARUwota> rzm61_: =)
[08:22] <nuker> lulz
[08:22] <kamiro87> Hello, I'm having some trouble with the latest version of ubuntu and a nvidia GeForce 6600 graphics card. i get a siaplay full of random collored blocks.
[08:22] <rzm61_> by the way I'm brand new to all of this
[08:22] <MASARUwota> !aimtalk|nuker
[08:22] <Ilmatic> Hey how do I talk on that channel?
[08:22] <MASARUwota> !aimspeak|nuker
[08:23] <Ilmatic> Keeps on telling me to register with services
[08:23] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: REGISTER first then
[08:23] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:23] <Ilmatic> But how
[08:23] <Ilmatic> What commands I mean.
[08:23] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic, youre probably using xchat or something, so go to your server tab
[08:23] <nuker> :(
[08:24] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: type /msg nickserv REGISTER
[08:24] <nuker> i want to install backtrac but i don't have dvd drive :(
[08:24] <MASARUwota> itll giev you an explanation of what to type, i think
[08:24] <MASARUwota> nuker: ask #linux
[08:24] <MASARUwota> also, backtrack is for wannabe CRACKZORZ
[08:24] <MASARUwota> !cracking|nuker
[08:25] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:25] <MASARUwota> wrong one
[08:25] <MASARUwota> !hacker|nuker
[08:25] <MASARUwota> thats what i wanted to trigger =)
[08:25] <crash2108> Does anyone here know about GPSD?
[08:26] <faileas> nuker: not really on topic but you can get it running using unetbootin- which runs on ubuntu. however, i think anyone who wants to learn the internals of a computer would know that ;)
[08:26] <Ilmatic> Hey masar
[08:26] <Ilmatic> it says I'm not logged in
[08:26] <Ilmatic> what the heck..
[08:26] <nuker> ok :)
[08:26] <faileas> MASARUwota: well, its meant for forensics, which is not as sexy as tv makes it look ;p
[08:27] <MASARUwota> faileas: :/ "forensics"
[08:27] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: let me google
[08:27] <ugliefro1> i love ubuntu...it reminds me of the good old days of dos
[08:27] <Ilmatic> k
[08:27] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[08:27] <domino14> i'm watching a movie on vlc and it just keeps hiccuping, the audio skips and the video gets jagged, and my cpu load is at ~7% for each of the two cores, only 31% memory usage of 2 GB, nothing crazy running, what could be going on?
[08:27] <c_nick> dos rocked..
[08:27] <ugliefro1> cant believe im excited about runnung things in cli
[08:27] <nuker> thanks guys bye
[08:27] <faileas> MASARUwota: i do mean actually forensics and incident response
[08:27] <Ilmatic> err..does it have to be legit?
[08:27] <MASARUwota> domino14: vlc uses build-in codecs, it is known for acting weird. lol
[08:28] <faileas> which is utterly dry ;p
[08:28] <c_nick> It used to make me feel like a god amongst all my coll girl friends.. even though all i was doing was cls cd folder go in and in and in ;)
[08:28] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: yeah
[08:28] <ugliefro1> wow u can build a really low end machine using just cli
[08:28] <w3lly> i do have a question. which week number do we have?
[08:28] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you need to check it
[08:28] <faileas> hmm
[08:28] <MASARUwota> w3lly: offtopic. lol
[08:28] <MASARUwota> w3lly: also, week 1 i think
[08:29] <faileas> what's the name of that package you need on a livecd to make it installable?
[08:29] <yiggor> 2
[08:29] <MASARUwota> :/
[08:29] <c_nick> faileas: u just click on it on desktop
[08:29] <faileas> c_nick: i'm trying to make my own. not sure if remastersys supplies it
[08:29] <MASARUwota> oh whow, i love having to use internet explorer at work, it just crashed out of a sudden, i wasnt even using it for 5 minutes :/
[08:29] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to run something and is coming back with a perl error telling me it cant find SI/Parse.pm  anyone know what package this might be in?
[08:30] <Ilmatic> Wait, so is it asking me for the email and password I use to log in on ubuntu forums?
[08:30] <faileas> MASARUwota: eheh. which one? 6?
[08:30] <c_nick> MASARUwota: on this site http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html i am following option 3.. Cmd Line now tell me do i have to rename the isolinux with syslinux
[08:30] <MASARUwota> faileas: 7 actually
[08:30] <xiaomai> i've mounted an nfs partition rw, but when i attempt to write to that partition (as root), i get permission denied errors.  how can that be?
[08:30] <c_nick> xiaomai: try with sudo
[08:30] <faileas> MASARUwota: ahh. that's what i have in my windows boxen. never use it tho ;p
[08:31] <MASARUwota> faileas: you should be really happy :X its a pain in the ass
[08:31] <faileas> MASARUwota: small company. i use EVERY single incident to move my users towards... more sensible options
[08:31] <c_nick> i need someone to help me
[08:31] <MASARUwota> faileas: people like you help make this world a better place =)
[08:32] <faileas> MASARUwota: oh, if only i could move them to linux ;p
[08:32] <DryGrain> !ask | c_nick
[08:32] <MASARUwota> faileas: lol
[08:32] <kinja-sheep> faileas: No wonder why your small company remains small. :-)
[08:32] <faileas> c_nick: any particular reason you're using the cli? also that method ONLY withs with a img - an image
[08:33] <faileas> kinja-sheep: er.. family business, and very specialised
[08:33] <c_nick> nope
[08:33] <c_nick> but all i want to know is .. in the cd there is isolinux .. but it said on ubuntu forum that isolinux has to be replace with syslinux
[08:33] <faileas> c_nick: and that won't work with an iso. syslinux and isolinux are not the same
[08:33] <c_nick> do i have to do that
[08:33] <faileas> c_nick: yes. syslinux is for usb. isolinux is for isos
[08:34] <Tniffoc> Off topic but I love how I just owned Antivirus live on my friend's comp. Professional help didn't get it but I beat it in 10 mins with only 1 CD. A live CD for Ubunut
[08:34] <MASARUwota> Tniffoc: =)
[08:35] <faileas> kinja-sheep: we pretty much are consultants - we hire who we need, when we need em, and work anywhere we are needed. so we have very few permanant staff
[08:35] <MASARUwota> faileas: got any job openings?
[08:35] <faileas> kinja-sheep: 2 engineers, a tech, a PA, and a small dog
[08:35] <Fragsworth> Ok hulu stopped working, ubuntu 9.10... apparently I need a new flash
[08:35] <Fragsworth> how do I install it?
[08:35] <MASARUwota> faileas: just kidding :p
[08:35] <Tniffoc> MASARUwota: He almost formatted his drive, then I was like... WTF? Just go in to linux, it will ignore the drive's security... Delete the virus files, then go into windows and restore your reg values... WIN
[08:35] <faileas> MASARUwota: well, the small dog often skips work... so there might be a vacancy... but i doubt you fit
[08:35] <kinja-sheep> faileas: o.O
[08:35] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: go to the adobe flash download page and get the ubuntu .deb package
[08:36] <Fragsworth> MASARUwota: It is telling me bad platform; i386
[08:36] <ziroday> !offtopic
[08:36] <faileas> Tniffoc: i'd also have tried an AV livecd
[08:36] <faileas> >_>
[08:36] <Tniffoc> HOLY !@#$
[08:36] <MASARUwota> faileas: im dutch so i doubt i will be able to travel that far :p
[08:36] <ziroday> Tniffoc: please don't swear :) (yes asterisking it out still counts)
[08:37] <MASARUwota> !swearing
[08:37] <Tniffoc> ziroday: oh come on. this is in fact the internet...
[08:37] <faileas> lol
[08:37] <Fragsworth> When I try to install the .deb for the new flash player I get this error: "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'"
[08:37] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: :/ get the correct package for your system then
[08:37] <Tniffoc> Fragsworth: Make sure to download the ubuntu one and not the windows one
[08:37] <ziroday> Fragsworth: are you currently using 32 or 64bit version of ubunut?
[08:37] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: you need the 64bit version
[08:37] <MASARUwota> Tniffoc: its a .deb, it cant be for windows
[08:38] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:38] <Fragsworth> I don't see that one available on Adobe's website...
[08:38] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: if you're using 9.10 you can grab it in add/remove software and search for flash
[08:38] <Tniffoc> MASARUwota: Oh. Sorry. I just came back from a 4 year break of having a life
[08:38] <OerHeks> use the flashplugin-installer in synaptic, it will install flash 10.0 r42
[08:38] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: I'll try that right now
[08:38] <MASARUwota> Fragsworth: what version of ubuntu are you running?
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[08:38] <Tniffoc> !download
[08:38] <MASARUwota> !flash
[08:39] <BlackCow> i was going to say, use the installer for flash in synaptic, i had the same issues on my 64 bit machine
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[08:39] <BlackCow> why is floodbot flooding the server lol
[08:39] <orkungunay> lol
[08:39] <mneptok> the Flash plugin provided by the repos is the i386 version, which also installs nspluginwrapper
[08:40] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: that worked, thanks
[08:41] <alyssum> how does ubuntu (8.04) handle the TTL of ping packets?  does it ever set it to a value different than 64?
[08:41] <BlackCow> its not the flash plugin you want out of the repo, its the flashplugin-installer that does the trick
[08:41] <mneptok> native x86_64 Flash is not yet out of beta. it has to be installed manually.
[08:41] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: np
[08:42] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: actually, it's only partially working. It seems buggy now, I can't click on things inside of the flash player
[08:42] <mneptok> BlackCow: flashplugin-installer installs the i386 version, even on 64-bit systems
[08:42] <OerHeks> mneptok not true
[08:43] <kinja-sheep> mneptok: True.
[08:43] <alyssum> also how can i check the *pong* packets that an ubuntu server is sending out?  is there any easy to use network traffic tool for this?
[08:44] <dtownhero> Fragsworth: did you get the adobe version?
[08:44] <Fragsworth> dtownhero: Yes
[08:44] <dtownhero> hmm did you restart the browser?
[08:44] <mneptok> OerHeks: most certainly true
[08:44] <Fragsworth> I can't make hulu videos fullscreen anymore in firefox
[08:44] <Fragsworth> I can't change volume, or do a number of things anymore
[08:45] <dtownhero> hmm I dunno I've never had that happen
[08:45] <Fragsworth> I can click on these new buttons... "next video" and "continuous play"
[08:45] <Fragsworth> but not on the normal stuff
[08:45] <dtownhero> oh hulu does bug out on me kinda sometimes
[08:45] <mneptok> Fragsworth: go to "about:plugins" in Firefox
[08:45] <OerHeks> flash installer installed 10.0.43.34 ( it's 64 bit ) and the 32 bit version is beyond 10.1
[08:45] <tayhe> hi everyone , my virtualbox cant catch my microphone, how can i fix this ?
[08:45] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Ok
[08:46] <mneptok> OerHeks: The following NEW packages will be installed:   flashplugin-installer nspluginwrapper
[08:46] <mneptok> OerHeks: if the plugin ewas native, i wouldn;t need nspluginwrapper
[08:46] <mneptok> Fragsworth: is the Adobe plugin the only Flash handler? no GNASH?
[08:47] <Fragsworth> mneptok: No GNASH.
[08:47] <Ilmatic> Hey, how do I get a cloak?
[08:47] <mneptok> Fragsworth: great
[08:47] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: try #freenode
[08:47] <mneptok> Fragsworth: download this  - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[08:47] <maco> Ilmatic: ubuntu members are granted cloaks. otherwise, donating to freenode does it
[08:47] <morpheus_>  hi all
[08:47] <Ilmatic> do I just go in the channel and ask for one?
[08:47] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(
[08:48] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: you can get a cloak without donating simply by asking a freenode staffer
[08:48] <mneptok> Fragsworth: tell me when you have it.
[08:48] <tayhe> hi everyone , my virtualbox cant catch my microphone, how can i fix this ? any suggestion?
[08:48] <scyx> hi, does anyone know how i can start programs after connecting to a wlan successfully?
[08:48] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I got it
[08:48] <Gumby> does anyone know where I might find theperl module to solve this problem "Can't locate SI/Parse.pm in @INC"
[08:48] <Fragsworth> mneptok: What do I do with the .so file?
[08:49] <mneptok> Fragsworth: close Firefox. open a terminal and paste "sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer nspluginwrapper"
[08:49] <mneptok> Fragsworth: (no quotes)
[08:49] <Fragsworth> mneptok: done
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: when that's done, restart Firefox and check about:plugins
[08:50] <morpheus_> after compiling core 2.6.32.2 nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: make sure Flash is gone
[08:50] <Ilmatic> Do staff members ignore people purposely or is it just me?
[08:50] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I have another flash
[08:50] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(..i have uninstalled network manager too..any ideas?
[08:50] <Ilmatic> No one has responded yet.
[08:50] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[08:50] <mneptok> Fragsworth: where did it come from?
[08:50] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Shockwave Flash 10.0 d20
[08:51] <mneptok> Fragsworth: did you install a .deb from Adobe?
[08:51] <Fragsworth> I may have done that
[08:51] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core 2.6.32.2 nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: open your home directory
[08:52] <Fragsworth> mneptok: ok
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: hot ctl-h to show hidden files. open ".mozilla/plugins"
[08:52] <mneptok> Fragsworth: what's in there?
[08:53] <Fragsworth> .mozilla does not contain a plugins folder/file
[08:53] <smokey> i installed ubuntu linux on the my pc and i create an unrealirc with it
[08:53] <Fragsworth> there is .mozilla/extensions and .mozilla/firefox
[08:53] <mneptok> Fragsworth: then whatever plugin you have is installed globally
[08:53] <scyx> hi, does anyone know how i can start programs after connecting to a wlan successfully?
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try "grep ash ~/,bash_history"
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: got a line there containing "dpkg -i" ?
[08:54] <nizua> so I ran "apt-get upgrade" on jaunty and now wireless networking is hosed
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try "grep ash ~/.bash_history"
[08:54] <mneptok> Fragsworth: sorry, typo
[08:54] <Fragsworth> mneptok: history isn't long enough
[08:55] <maverick_> if i try to start wicd, i get this error: Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages. any ideas?
[08:55] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I think I can try to take it from here
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: well, you have a package installed and i don;t know its name.
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: so i can;t help you uninstall it
[08:55] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core 2.6.32.2 nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[08:55] <smokey> [11:01:08] <smokey> i installed ubuntu linux on the my pc and i create an unrealirc with it
[08:55] <ardchoille> Fragsworth: try "gedit ~/.bash_history" and then control+f and search for flash
[08:55] <Fragsworth> mneptok: thanks for your help
[08:55] <nizua> then I downloaded the alternate cd which upgrades without the internet from what I read yet it keeps trying to connect to the internet.
[08:55] <mneptok> Fragsworth: the shared object file for the 64-bit Flash beat goes in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[08:56] <mobal> hi
[08:56] <MASARUwota> !hi|mobal
[08:56] <kinja-sheep> mneptok: Thanks for the updated link. My libflashplayer.so is now at Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 instead of 10.0 r32
[08:57] <mobal> need some help. ubuntu server 9.10. i got an error when wants to try logwatch. "sudo logwatch" Can not open HTML Header at /usr/share... no such file or directory
[08:57] <mneptok> kinja-sheep: rawk
[08:57] <MASARUwota> mobal: you need a file in there
[08:57] <mobal> ohh
[08:58] <Sacho> why does free show 99% of memory used, but when I run top I can add up the memory usage to about 10%?
[08:58] <mneptok> Sacho: http://linuxatemyram.com
[08:58] <nizua> so anywyay, to rephrase my question is: is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to karmic without becoming a homosexual?
[08:58] <Fragsworth> mneptok: is there a global mozilla plugin folder?
[08:59] <mobal> hmm
[08:59] <Sacho> ah I see
[09:00] <Sacho> well it seems my pc is having lag spikes, and I can't really determine why, since cpu/mem usage are low-ish
[09:00] <mneptok> Fragsworth: try /usr/share/mozilla
[09:00] <maverick_> my dns keeps changing automatically in resolv.conf after restart even if i try to change it manually :(
[09:00] <ardchoille> mneptok: I wonder if he's got anything in  /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[09:00] <Ilmatic> what the heckkkkkk
[09:01] <mneptok> ardchoille: no idea. i'm using 64-bit Ubuntu and the native plugin beta.
[09:01] <ardchoille> maverick_: I had that problem too, turned out it was due to the cheapie router I'm using
[09:01] <FluxD> Is it possible to select certain packages to install from group packages like build-essential and ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:01] <mobal> now it says: Can not open HTML footer at /usr/share... logwatch too. But thanks for the help yes i now created header.html
[09:02] <maverick_> ardchollie: my system was fine until i screwed around with the settings, some piece of software is doing it, i dont think the hardware is responsible
[09:02] <Fragsworth> mneptok: I have a libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:02] <Fragsworth> mneptok: Is it safe to delete this?
[09:02] <ardchoille> maverick_: Ah, ok
[09:02] <mneptok> Fragsworth: yessah
[09:02] <maverick_> ardchollie: i cant even get wicd to run :(
[09:02] <tayhe> can you use microphone in virtualbox ?
[09:02] <kinja-sheep> maverick_: You could make the file read-only. Just a thought.
[09:03] <maverick_> kinja-sheep: tried that too, no avail
[09:03] <MASARUwota> tayhe: #vbox
[09:03] <ardchoille> kinja-sheep: didn't work for me, root could still edit it, I had to chattr +i mine
[09:03] <Ilmatic> what the heck
[09:03] <tayhe> MASARUwota: thanks
[09:03] <Ilmatic> there are no staff members online currently?
[09:03] <kinja-sheep> maverick_: Here you go. Use ardchoille's advice. Make it immutable!
[09:03] <Ilmatic> i want a frikkin cloakkkk
[09:04] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: wait then :/
[09:04] <maco> Ilmatic: whinging here won't help
[09:04] <Ilmatic> i know but..
[09:04] <Ilmatic> there's not much else I can do..
[09:04] <MASARUwota> !offtopic|Ilmatic
[09:04] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you can whine on #freenode ;)
[09:04] <maverick_> kinja-sheep: the thing is i cant get any network config tool to run properly
[09:04] <Ilmatic> lol
[09:05] <iflema> tayhe: what you running in vbox....sorry... but first make sure mic is not muted on virtmach
[09:05] <morpheus_> help plz, after compiling core 2.6.32.2 nvidia drivers not installing, log: http://pastebin.com/d59acea2e
[09:06] <DryGrain> i am very very frustrated and require assistance with compiling JasPer from source.
[09:06] <tayhe> iflema: i'm sure that mic is chosed and not muted in host and guest
[09:06] <FluxD> Is it possible to select certain packages to install from group packages like build-essential and ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:06] <iflema> k
[09:06] <iceroot> FluxD: that are meta-packages
[09:06] <MASARUwota> morpheus_: the logs look good :/
[09:06] <DryGrain> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271188 <- i am using this for instructions, but when I run ./configure i get all sorts of errors
[09:06] <iceroot> FluxD: they just install many other packages
[09:07] <FluxD> iceroot, I wish to install ubuntu-desktop without open-ffice
[09:07] <kinja-sheep> FluxD: By installing all certain packages instead of using ubuntu-desktop.
[09:07] <MASARUwota> FluxD: yeah, just install the packages themselves instead of the metapackage
[09:07] <morpheus_> MASARUwota lol yes:)
[09:07] <FluxD> MASARUwota, kinja-sheep iceroot too many packages in the lsit :(
[09:07] <iceroot> FluxD: then you have to install all packages the meta-package is installing without openoffice
[09:07] <MASARUwota> FluxD: what do you want to install then?
[09:07] <kinja-sheep> FluxD: c0py 4nD p4st3
[09:07] <iceroot> FluxD: or install ubuntu-desktop and remove open-office
[09:07] <iflema> tayhe: what os is running virtually
[09:08] <FluxD> MASARUwota, kinja-sheep iceroot I have space issues 4 gb / and 3.1 already full
[09:09] <iceroot> FluxD: i give you a list, instead of using purge use install without openoffice
[09:10] <iceroot> !purekde | FluxD
[09:10] <MASARUwota> FluxD: what packages DO you want then?
[09:10] <iceroot> FluxD: there are all packages ubuntu-desktop is installing
[09:10] <DryGrain> What is my 'BUILD' type, as far as ./configure is concerned?
[09:10] <faileas> ... oh sweet. the livecd version of my ubuntu remix is 200+ mb only
[09:10] <user___> is anyone else having problems with services not starting recently? e.g. my cups server cant be started
[09:10] <FluxD> iceroot, MASARUwota openoffice is a big chunk so I think rest can be installed and thanks iceroot
[09:11] <DryGrain> ...anyone?
[09:11] <luckymurali> Hi how to add a windows based network printer to ubuntu???
[09:12] <MASARUwota> luckymurali: CUPS
[09:12] <luckymurali> i added it
[09:12] <MASARUwota> !cups
[09:12] <luckymurali> but still not working
[09:12] <DarkS7ar> hi all
[09:13] <luckymurali> thanks
[09:13] <user___> MASARUwota, my cups has recently stopped running, ive heard others are experiencing this too
[09:13] <MASARUwota> user___: search on the forums and launchpad
[09:15] <DryGrain> drygrain@bluebook:~/jasper-1.900.1$ sudo make install
[09:15] <DryGrain> Making install in src
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/drygrain/jasper-1.900.1/src'
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[09:15] <DryGrain> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/drygrain/jasper-1.900.1/src'
[09:15] <FloodBot3> DryGrain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <DryGrain> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[09:15] <alyssum> my understanding is the default TTL on ping packets to an Ubuntu system is set to 64.  is there any reason why ubuntu may set the TTL of ping packets to 128?
[09:15] <DryGrain> oh  lovely, i crtainly appreciate all the help i recieved befor i flooded
[09:15] <Wunderkind> can anyone understand this crap from my log- kernel ACPI: I/O resource 0000:00:1[0x18c0 - 0x18df] conflicts with ACPI region SMBI [0x18c0 - 0x18cf]
[09:15] <DryGrain> grand
[09:15] <error_name> HELLO! can i find a little help here?
[09:15] <DryGrain> i suppose i'll just dick around until it works or breaks
[09:15] <DryGrain> thanks
[09:16] <Wunderkind> and most importantly how do i fix it?
[09:16] <DryGrain> probably not error_name
[09:16] <Wunderkind> lol
[09:16] <error_name> so sad
[09:16] <Oyoz> HI GUYS,HOW CAN I INTALL NERO 4 UBUNTU 9.10
[09:16] <error_name> i have a strange problem
[09:16] <Wunderkind> describe
[09:17] <error_name> that im not sure if i can even explain it exactly
[09:17] <faileas> error_name: if you can't explain, how would we know?
[09:17] <kinja-sheep> Oyoz: Application --> Accessories --> CD/DVD Creator.
[09:17] <Wunderkind> tell us what you see
[09:17] <raven_> FFMPEG: how to add two wave-files (l.wav r.wav) to a video as stereo?
[09:17] <Wunderkind> or don't see
[09:17] <kinja-sheep> Oyoz: Applications --> Sound & Video --> Brasero.
[09:18] <error_name> faileas: i can try but dont know how exact would it be
[09:18] <ExtremePC> Good morning guys
[09:18] <error_name> well its resolution bug
[09:19] <Ilmatic> Yello
[09:19] <kinja-sheep> error_name: The only bug is that you can't commit to your 2010 resolutions. :-\
[09:19] <c_nick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media subtopic>"Creating bootable USB manually" here it said do syslinux -s /dev/sdxx then you get a bootable USB.. it should boot and give a boot prompt.. but it just gives boot error
[09:19] <kinja-sheep> !fixres | error_name (need more details).
[09:19] <DryGrain> good gravy
[09:19] <DryGrain> !make | DryGrain
[09:19] <iflema>  c_nick: do you have more usb dives?
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Hey people, am I cloaked?
[09:20] <DryGrain> !compile | DryGrain
[09:20] <c_nick> yea
[09:20] <error_name> i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens
[09:20] <c_nick> why ?
[09:20] <DryGrain> help me bot
[09:20]  * DryGrain kicks ubottu 
[09:20] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: You're not.
[09:20] <iflema> c_nick: im assuming youve tryed another.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> What the heck, that freenode staff said I was.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:20] <Ilmatic> Damn it..
[09:20] <c_nick> I already have another bootable... one..which someone else made
[09:21] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Sign out and sign in.
[09:21] <iflema> wipe it... oooh. keen
[09:21] <ExtremePC> Every time I power up my ubuntu 9.19 machine I get an Error telling me ("cannot start ICEauthority")
[09:21] <c_nick> iflema: its not like that.. just try to think this way..
[09:21] <c_nick> : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media subtopic>"Creating bootable USB manually" here it said do syslinux -s /dev/sdxx then you get a bootable USB.. it should boot and give a boot prompt.. but it just gives boot error
[09:22] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: you mean 9.10 ?
[09:22] <iflema> c_nick the graphical app built in to ubuntu s recent versions does the job...
[09:22] <ExtremePC> yes
[09:22] <iflema> .
[09:22] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: yes ;)
[09:22] <stillmatic> what the heck
[09:22] <iflema> c_nick: if after a reformat and a reimage it still no work.... argh... try another
[09:23] <error_name> i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens
[09:23] <c_nick> whic one .. in System "make StartUp Disk"
[09:23] <error_name> can u help
[09:23] <DryGrain> wow nifty
[09:23] <kinja-sheep> stillmatic: Use the account you registered. Not random nicknames. Registration help available in #freenode
[09:24] <DryGrain> im so glad #ubuntu is so dependent on Synaptic now that no one can assist me with compiling a program from source
[09:24] <DryGrain> someone please put jasper into a package on the repositories and i'll shut up
[09:24] <iflema> c_nick: system/administraton/usb strtup dsk creator
[09:24] <DryGrain> until then i'm going to break my 'make' command
[09:24] <Ilmatic> hello
[09:24] <c_nick> ok will also give it a shoy
[09:24] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: howto solve that?
[09:25] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: I don't know
[09:25] <iflema> c_nick also?
[09:25] <gvandeweyer> hi, i have a question regarding xscreensaver. I've installed all and all seem to work fine. There is however something called 'dna logo' screensaver that's disabled. What's this and how can it be enabled?
[09:25] <Ilmatic> Hey is my user info still visible?
[09:25] <iflema> c_nick: again..
[09:25] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: some screensavers arent installed by default
[09:25] <gvandeweyer> I only found one mention on the interwebz, but nothing on how to install it (or which package they are in)
[09:25] <c_nick> yes iflema cause initially when i did that.. it worked but during installation to just went off
[09:25] <c_nick> got an error
[09:25] <roracle> hey guys, i have a problem with my sound.  i don't know what the model is, first off.  second, it doesn't work at all
[09:25] <c_nick> will try again
[09:26] <Ilmatic> Am I not cloaked yet?
[09:26] <roracle> it's a dell optiplex 330, it's at my workplace and my boss wanted to check out ubuntu
[09:26] <ExtremePC> ardchoille: and can you know what kind of problem I am dealing with?
[09:26] <shelby> Is there some traffic compression software available?
[09:26] <morpheus_> can i delete sources of kernel after compiling?
[09:26] <ardchoille> ExtremePC: no
[09:26] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: try installing the  extra packages: xscreensaver-gl-extra & xscreensaver-data-extra
[09:27] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: also, are you dutch by any chance? :)
[09:28] <grindey> can someone help me to add Universe and Multiverse repository so i can download software
[09:28] <MASARUwota> grindey: go to synaptic preferences
[09:28] <ziroday> grindey: sure! Go to System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:28] <grindey> yep
[09:28] <grindey> and then
[09:28] <morpheus_> can i delete sources of kernel after compiling?
[09:28] <ziroday> grindey: and tick the universe and multiverse check boxes
[09:29] <MASARUwota> morpheus_: if you have verified that it worked, sure
[09:29] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: Vlaams :-)
[09:29] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: I have those packages
[09:29] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: allee manneke
[09:29] <MASARUwota> :p
[09:29] <ziroday> grindey: sorry they are called "Community-maintained Open Source software" and "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues"
[09:29] <grindey> they are all ticked except source code. i have also selected main server.
[09:29] <ziroday> grindey: okay, then those servers should be enabled
[09:30] <grindey> i wanted to download NVU webpage editor
[09:30] <ziroday> grindey: could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <morpheus_> MASARUwota it's work, but nvidia drivers cant be installed. on old kernel all is OK
[09:30] <error_name> hello i have notebook with 15,6" monitor which native reoslution is 1366x768. but when i try to start smth on full screen and its resolution isnt set to 1366x768,my screen is being split into 6 similar to each other screens. can u help
[09:30] <gvandeweyer> MASARUwota: you also then :-) , anyway DNA logo is the only one in the list from xscreensaver-demo that's grayed out
[09:30] <grindey> i am totally new to linux, what is pastebin ?
[09:30] <ziroday> grindey: I don't see any programs by the name of nvu in the repository...
[09:30] <MASARUwota> gvandeweyer: i see, let me google
[09:31] <kinja-sheep> !pastebin | grindey
[09:31] <MASARUwota> !pastebin|grindey
[09:31] <MASARUwota> :X
[09:31] <kinja-sheep> :3
[09:31] <morpheus_> MASARUwota i think nvidia can't be installed, because sources was deleted
[09:31] <ziroday> grindey: ignore what I asked you to pastebin, as far as I can tell NVU is not in the repositories
[09:31] <BUSTACAP> like windows and using 32bit vs 64bit, in linux, do you have to use 64bit to use all 4gb of ram?
[09:31] <raven_> which is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:31] <grindey> me too. I did read on a website that i can type sudo apt-get install nvu, then it said i must have these multiverse and universe things activated
[09:31] <ec2lt> salut
[09:32] <grindey> ok ok...
[09:32] <ziroday> grindey: which website?
[09:32] <grindey> sweet
[09:32] <grindey> let me check again
[09:32] <raven_> which tool is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:32] <MASARUwota> grindey: get kompozer. its an improved version of NVU with bugfixes
[09:32] <error_name> !xorg
[09:32] <grindey> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-nvu-the-web-authoring-system
[09:32] <grindey> up top it says i must have these things activated
[09:32] <MASARUwota> grindey: get the ''kompozer" package
[09:32] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Yes.
[09:33] <Ilmatic> Yes what?
[09:33] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Yes, you're cloaked.
[09:33] <scyx> is there a way to start a script after successfully connecting to a wireless internet connection?
[09:33] <BUSTACAP> do i have to use 64bit ubuntu to use 4gb of ram?
[09:33] <Ilmatic> yayyyyyy
[09:33] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:33] <grindey> okay i'll give that a go
[09:33] <ziroday> grindey: those commands are old and dangerous, I wouldn't follow them
[09:33] <Ilmatic> thank you for noticing kinja
[09:33] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: that or the PAE kernel
[09:33] <grindey> i see
[09:34] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: would using 64bit perform better anyway? or would you recommend using PAE kernel?
[09:34] <grindey> i'll try to get this komposer package
[09:34] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: I would recommend the 64bit, it has better performance then the PAE kernel
[09:34] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: thank you
[09:34] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: here are some benchmarks if you are interested http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[09:34] <Ilmatic> Hey how often do people get hacked on here?
[09:35] <ziroday> Ilmatic: hacked?
[09:35] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: thanks, very helpful
[09:35] <Ilmatic> Err..did I say it wrong?
[09:35] <ugliefrog__> hopefully never
[09:35] <ziroday> BUSTACAP: have fun
[09:36] <grindey> kompozer looks exactly like Nvu
[09:36] <BUSTACAP> ziroday: always with ubuntu :P
[09:36] <grindey> i'll give it a go
[09:36] <ziroday> grindey: it is :)
[09:36] <grindey> thanks a lot for helping me out
[09:36] <MASARUwota> grindey: its a fork which is being developed (NVU pretty much died)
[09:36] <kinja-sheep> grindey: The link you posted earlier was in 2005 -- Very old. :)
[09:36] <ziroday> grindey: no problem, have fun
[09:36] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: I have been using IRC for years and have never heard any case of it
[09:37] <Ilmatic> Oh.
[09:37] <Ilmatic> You have no idea how relieved I am.
[09:37] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:37] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: If you're not running any world-facing servers, you don't have to worry about it too much with Ubuntu
[09:37] <CAiRO__> hi
[09:37] <raven_> which tool is able to work with surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[09:38] <CAiRO__> where can i get kernel backports for hardy? i need a kernel >= 2.6.27 for my mainboard sensors to work
[09:38] <nickapalooza> raven_: you mean to play them?
[09:38] <Ilmatic> Some guy I was talking to earlier said he was hacked by someone scoping out IPs.
[09:38] <Ilmatic> Placed a root kit or so in his box.
[09:38] <scyx> is it even possible to start a script after connecting to a wireless internet connection? or do i have to manually write a script for it that detects the connection?
[09:38] <raven_> nickapalooza, no to process it or to mix own surround sounds
[09:38] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: Just remember, computer security is a process, not a product
[09:38] <MASARUwota> scyx: not possible with network-manager, afaik
[09:38] <kraut> moin
[09:39] <nickapalooza> raven_: editing...yeah i wouldn't know
[09:39] <Ilmatic> I'll keep that in mind when I buy Norton.
[09:39] <ziroday> scyx: putting a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ might do it, not sure
[09:39] <Ilmatic> LOL.
[09:39] <nickapalooza> scyx: i wouldn't know
[09:39] <Ilmatic> jp
[09:39] <Ilmatic> jp
[09:39] <FloodBot3> Ilmatic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <ziroday> ardchoille: you've got it wrong. It's "security is a journey, not a destination"
[09:40] <Ilmatic> Muted?
[09:40] <scyx> ziroday: afaik those are executed when the device powers up, so it probably isn't connected at that point
[09:40] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Temporarily because you were flooding.
[09:40] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: you submitted too many lines of text too close together
[09:41] <Ilmatic> Damn..I didn't know it was like that on irc.
[09:41] <anand_> hai
[09:41] <ardchoille> ziroday: hmm.. I heard that somewhere :)
[09:41] <MASARUwota> !hi|anand_
[09:41] <Ilmatic> that's crazyy..
[09:41] <ziroday> scyx: I was under the impression the scripts were run as soon as a network connection was established, feel free to try it out
[09:41] <MASARUwota> !off-topic|Ilmatic
[09:43] <militant> hmmm this is odd.  when i copy or paste, my mouse cursor freezes for like a second.  right about a second.
[09:43] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, what do I download to make my desktop really flashy?
[09:44] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: Spend some time at http://www.gnome-look.org
[09:44] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: get a mac. :/
[09:44] <mobal> hi
[09:44] <Ilmatic> I have one.
[09:44] <mobal> need some help about Transmission Web Interface
[09:44] <MASARUwota> D:
[09:44] <Ilmatic> I'm just experimenting with ubuntu
[09:44] <MASARUwota> mobal: yes?
[09:45] <mobal> i can connect but 409: Conflict
[09:45] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: a linux user that cares about it being flashy inst a true one
[09:45] <mobal> and thanks for the Logwatch help. now works fine :)
[09:45] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:46] <jani_87> hello
[09:46] <mobal> hi
[09:46] <MASARUwota> !hi|jani_87
[09:46] <Ilmatic> Well I mean, I really don't care for it to be flashy or not. I just wanna try out that little cube thingy I saw on youtube.
[09:46] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:46] <MASARUwota> Ilamtic: turn on desktop effects in gnome
[09:46] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: That would be compiz
[09:46] <jani_87> It has been running for 13 minutes, I have 10 #data
[09:46] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: desktop effects in gnome, that runs compiz
[09:46] <MASARUwota> afaik
[09:46] <ziroday> Ilmatic: to configure compiz (for the cube) install compizconfig-settings-manager package
[09:47] <kinja-sheep> !cube | Ilmatic
[09:47] <Ilmatic> sudo install compizconfig-settings manager package?
[09:47] <brad> anyone familiar with setting up Wolf:ET? I get this error with 2.55: "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1"
[09:47] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:48] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: "sudo aptitude install packageName"
[09:49] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:49] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: http://tinyurl.com/yzgzd7h -- Learn a little about aptitude
[09:49] <MASARUwota> !apt|Ilmatic
[09:50] <Ilmatic> Oh mann...all these commands look so complicated..
[09:50] <Ilmatic> It's a wonder how anyone can be fluent with linux.
[09:51] <djem> Hi, I'm having some strange problem on my unr installation. The network shows all connected. both Wifi and wired seams to work fine, got the right IP form DHCP and all, but no internett. Any Ideas?
[09:51] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: It gets easier the more you use it
[09:51] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: its better then clicking everything CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK
[09:51] <MASARUwota> :X
[09:51] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[09:51] <star3am> (wave)
[09:51] <Ilmatic> You must admit though, clicking is a much easier method.
[09:51] <Ilmatic> No memorization involved.
[09:52] <Ilmatic> Just using your eyes.
[09:52] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: for beginners, yes. commands and shortcuts are wayyyyy quicker and easier once you get the hang of it.
[09:52] <jani_87> anyone help me ? i can't get any data with wlan
[09:52] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you can use your eyes to read manuals, right?
[09:52] <jani_87> i got 30 data, it has been running for 19 min
[09:52] <Ilmatic> So with terminal, you can do essentially EVERYTHING?
[09:52] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: I felt that way 8 years ago too, now I'd die without my terminal
[09:53] <gvandeweyer> ardchoille: second that
[09:53] <Slart> Ilmatic: well... image editing is hard...
 for real
[09:53] <MASARUwota> ardchoille: thirthing =)
[09:53] <Slart> Ilmatic: but ordinary admin stuff.. yes
[09:53] <Ilmatic> Oh whattt..
[09:53] <Ilmatic> that's crazy
[09:53] <Ilmatic> I thought terminal was just for commands
[09:53] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: all apps *are* commands
[09:53] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: it is, the commands are the core of linux, graphical tools are just frontends
 try links -g even browse images of websites in terminal :D
[09:54] <MASARUwota> =)
[09:54] <Ilmatic> -g myspace.com?
[09:54] <Ilmatic> like that?
[09:54] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: im chatting in a terminal atm =)
[09:54] <alabd> Hello , what are differences between apt-get upgarde and apt-get dist-upgarde  ?
[09:54] <nmvictor> how do i get the kannel sources in ubuntu, i did sudo apt-get source kannel and i got"Cant get source for package kannel", am i supposed  to add something to source.list/
[09:54] <Ilmatic> whattt..lol
[09:54] <Ilmatic> that's crazy
[09:55] <MASARUwota> alabd: dist-upgrade upgrades to the newest version of linux
[09:55] <MASARUwota> alabd: upgrade just gets the newest packages for the current version
[09:55] <MASARUwota> *ubuntu GNU/Linux
[09:55] <Slart> alabd: dist-upgrade upgrades more stuff.. things that might require you to reboot.. install or remove other packages and so on... at least I think so
[09:55] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, now that I've installed compiz, where do I go to go use it?
[09:56] <maverick_> i installed network manager (latest) using make install, is there any way i can uninstall it, i think it has screwed up my wicd..i get this error on trying to start it Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages.
 preferences -> appearence
[09:56] <Slart> MASARUwota: newest version of linux? you mean the kernel?
 visual effects
[09:56] <djem> What is Bcast address when running ifconfig? Does that have anything to do with gateway?
[09:56] <DryGrain> lol, this place looks like #vistahelp
[09:56] <Slart> MASARUwota: oh.. nevermind.. didn't see that last line?
[09:56] <MASARUwota> MASARUwota: that aswell, the last one that ubuntu has in its repos
[09:57] <ardchoille> MASARUwota: No talking to yourself here
[09:57]  * ardchoille hids
[09:57] <MASARUwota> Slart: that aswell, the last one that ubuntu has in its repos
[09:57] <MASARUwota> ardchoille: im just stupid sometimes :X
[09:57] <jani_87> i got 30 data, it has been running for 19 min
[09:57] <nmvictor> how do i get the kannel sources in ubuntu, i did sudo apt-get source kannel and i got"Cant get source for package kannel", am i supposed  to add something to source.list/
[09:57] <jani_87> Im trying to capture something wireless #data, but I cant? I get very low amount of data - weird.
[09:57] <Ilmatic> Hey it's already set to extra.
[09:57] <Ilmatic> So err..how do I access the cool looking cube?
[09:57] <faileas> maverick_: make uninstall should. next time get and use checkinstall to make a deb. its easier
[09:57] <MASARUwota> SPINNAN CUBEZZ
[09:58] <ilkkarga> slm
[09:58] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: System --> Preferences --> CompizConfig Setting Manager
[09:58] <ardchoille> !checkinstall | maverick_
[09:58] <maverick_> faileas: i tried checkinstall, but it could not make a deb only for this package
[09:58] <ilkkarga> selam
[09:58] <ilkkarga> hi
[09:58] <MASARUwota> !hi|ilkkarga
[09:58] <ilkkarga> okey
[09:58] <ilkkarga> heyy
[09:58] <ilkkarga> girl
[09:58] <MASARUwota> :/
[09:59] <Darkedge> For some reason I unmounted a CD now nomore CDs get automounted.
[09:59] <ilkkarga> ne
[09:59] <Ilmatic> I don't see a compizsetting manager option
[09:59] <jani_87> u shouldnt
[09:59] <jani_87> reinstall
[09:59] <Slart> !info linux-source | nmvictor
[09:59] <ilkkarga> heyyyyyyyy
[09:59] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: what do you want?
[09:59] <ilkkarga> howare you
[10:00] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Did you install compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[10:00] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: good, do you have a question?
[10:00] <maverick_> removed network manager, still getting Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages. in Wicd, any ideas?
[10:00] <Ilmatic> in the terminal i put a command that went like this: sudo aptitude install package compiz
[10:00] <ilkkarga> heyyyy man
[10:01] <ilkkarga> howare you
[10:01] <MASARUwota> !off-topic|ilkkarga
[10:01] <Slart> ilkkarga: this isn't a social channel.. this channel is for ubuntu support only.. go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[10:01] <ardchoille> Ilmatic:  sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:01] <ilkkarga> I tuka
[10:01] <ilkkarga> turka
[10:01] <maverick_> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[10:01] <ilkkarga> heyy
[10:01] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: "sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[10:01] <Slart> !tr | ilkkarga
[10:01] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:01] <ardchoille> !info ccsm | maverick_
[10:02] <MASARUwota> Slarta: D:
[10:02] <Slart> !ccsm | maverick_
[10:02] <MASARUwota> Slart: D:
[10:02] <Slart> 9
[10:02] <Slart> :)
[10:02] <ilkkarga> :)
[10:02] <maverick_> hehe
[10:02] <ilkkarga> hehehe
[10:02] <Ilmatic> ccsm?
[10:02] <Ilmatic> would that work?
[10:02] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: mo
[10:02] <maverick_> sorry my bad
[10:02] <ardchoille> Ilmatic:  sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:02] <ilkkarga> eheehe
[10:02] <ilkkarga> :)
[10:02] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:02] <ilkkarga> slm lan
[10:03] <ilkkarga> ibneler
[10:03] <MASARUwota> !tr|ilkkarga
[10:03] <ilkkarga> kimsinsen lennnnn
[10:03] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: please dont speak turkish here D:
[10:03] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: join #ubuntu-tr
[10:03] <ilkkarga> yes
[10:03] <Ilmatic> damn you guys are really fluent with your commands.
[10:03] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:03] <ilkkarga> turist
[10:04] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: go be a tourist in #ubuntu-tr
[10:04] <djem> why does 'netstat -nr' return nothing? Is that normal?
[10:04] <LewisDre4m> Hello, does anyone here use Cairo Dock? I need some help.
[10:04] <ilkkarga> turkish
[10:04] <ilkkarga> name cem
[10:04] <ilkkarga> girl
[10:04] <gvandeweyer> hmm, if anybody is wondering, the segmentation faults arising in ubuntu 9.10 when using seamlessrdp are solved by manual install of a previous version of rdesktop (1.5)
[10:04] <ilkkarga> wanht
[10:04] <MASARUwota> ilkkarga: dont sociallize or speak turkish.
[10:05] <LewisDre4m> Please help, is there anyone who used Cairo Dock here?
[10:05] <ilkkarga> no rpomlem
[10:05] <ilkkarga> promlem
[10:05] <ardchoille> hiçbir Türk burada konuşuyoruz. -> #ubuntu-tr
[10:05] <maverick_> removed network manager, still getting Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for error messages. in Wicd, any ideas?
[10:05] <Slart> djem: it returns my routing table on my system
[10:05] <ardchoille> ilkkarga:  hiçbir Türk burada konuşuyoruz. -> #ubuntu-tr
[10:05] <ilkkarga> sieeee
[10:05] <ilkkarga> lavuk
[10:05] <ilkkarga> göt
[10:05] <Slart> LewisDre4m: yes
[10:05] <Slart> !anyone | LewisDre4m
[10:05] <ilkkarga> sieee
[10:06] <djem> Slart: Wonder why my table is empty
[10:06] <ilkkarga> fuck you
[10:06] <ardchoille> !ops | ilkkarga
[10:06] <LewisDre4m> ilkkarga: ?
[10:06] <kinja-sheep> ilkkarga: Sizi Türkiye'de yerli dili konuşabilir. Yemek yemek!
[10:06] <kinja-sheep> ilkkarga: #ubuntu-tr
[10:06] <Slart> djem: what kind of network connection do you use?
[10:06] <ilkkarga> sieee
[10:06] <djem> Slart: I have both wireless and wired atm, but for some reason the internett wont work
[10:07] <MASARUwota> Seeker: thank you
[10:07] <MASARUwota> *Seeker': thank you
[10:07] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Wicked, man I am new to all of this stuff and am very confused. I have the dock on but the windows miminize to the bottom pannel, then when I try click them I click the dock by mistake? What should I be doing differently? If i remove the bottom panel which I think people do where will my minimized windows go? sorry for a stupid question
[10:07] <Seeker`> MASARUwota: ironically, the first one hilighted me, the 2nd didn't
[10:07] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, how do I access the cube?
[10:07] <MASARUwota> Seeker: :o
[10:07] <LewisDre4m> Slart: So If I remove my bottom panel, where will my minimized windows go?
[10:08] <kinja-sheep> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[10:08] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: SPINNAN CUBEZ
[10:08] <Slart> djem: hmm.. I'm not really sure if the routing table is empty if you don't get an ip (either static or via dhcp).. that would be my first guess
[10:08] <Ilmatic> Err...how?
[10:08] <Ilmatic> is there a certain command?
[10:08] <Subby> LewisDre4m: they arn't shown anymore, nothing else :)
[10:08] <Slart> LewisDre4m: you can get the minimized windows from the dock.. or you can move the bottom panel to somewhere else.. say one of the sides or the top
[10:08] <djem> Slart: I've got an IP address from my DHCP that shows up using ifconfig
[10:08] <LewisDre4m> Subby: what do you mena man?
[10:09] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: do you get a cube when pressing SUPER (windows or mac button) + TAB?
[10:09] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: right click the top panel, choose Add to panel, find the Window List applet and add it. When that is done you can delete the bottom panel
[10:09] <LewisDre4m> mean*
[10:09] <LewisDre4m> omg I feel totally naked with out that panel how scary!
[10:09] <Slart> djem: then I don't really understand why it would be empty.. I've never really messed with the routing.. it normally "just works" on every system I've played with
[10:09] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: some people like to work without a panel, just at systray app =) (see: dwm)
[10:10] <gvandeweyer> Ilmatic: you have to configure it in compiz-settings-manager, including keybindings under rotate-cube
[10:10] <LewisDre4m> this is wierd
[10:10] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: It will look like this: http://picasaweb.google.com/ardchoille42/Screenshots#5422189670043288322
[10:10] <Subby> LewisDre4m: you have at least one panel, do you?
[10:10] <mindstorm> Ilmatic: I think ctrl+alt+holding button 1 on mouse is the default bind
[10:10] <safwanahmed> Can you people please download and play Tap Race from Android marcket com.mindcob.tapRace.activities and suggest me of improvements
[10:10] <LewisDre4m> Subby: Yes
[10:10] <maverick_> can someone help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/55751
[10:10] <safwanahmed> Please give reviews
[10:10] <djem> Slart: Thanks, this is the first time I've expereinced this too. I guess I'll have to go for SuSE instead then.
[10:10] <Subby> And your minimized windows arnÄt there anymore?
[10:10] <MASARUwota> safwanahmed: please visit #android
[10:11] <safwanahmed> I'll be thankful of you
[10:11] <ardchoille> safruhanix: not in this channel
[10:11] <safwanahmed> ok thanx alot of help
[10:11] <Slart> djem: you're welcome
[10:11] <LewisDre4m> Subby: I deleted my bottom panel so there are no minimized windows there anymore. I see they have now gone to the Cairo dock
[10:11] <Ilmatic> Oh whaatttt
[10:11] <kinja-sheep> LewisDre4m: Right-click on any panel and add applet "Windows List"
[10:11] <Ilmatic> that's frikkin clean
[10:11] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:11] <MASARUwota> :/
[10:11] <Subby> LewisDre4m: just right click and "Add to panel" and choose windowlist (or sth. like that I got it in german)
[10:11] <Ilmatic> dangg
[10:11] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: What's wrong?
[10:11] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2008/027/1/1/AwesomeWM_Desktop_27_01_by_Gigamlol.png
[10:11] <Ilmatic> nothing at all
[10:12] <Ilmatic> lol
[10:12] <Ilmatic> i'm amazed by the effects
[10:12] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Here is something thats confusing me, when I launch a program from my dock EG Chrome, Say I wanted to launch another one (rather than use tabs) it seems to just be opening the same one over and over again not a new browser. Only letting me have one open you know?
[10:12] <Slart> LewisDre4m: right click on the shortcut in the dock.. select "Launch New"
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> I get you!
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> Slart: nice one
[10:13] <maverick_> can someone help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/55751
[10:13] <LewisDre4m> hmmz let me have a fiddle see if anything else confuses me :). Thank you for your help all of you so muhc.
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> can I use .ttf fonts from window and apply on ubuntu ?
[10:14] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: yes.. you can put them in ~/.fonts
[10:14] <ardchoille> maverick_: Which version are you running?
[10:15] <MenZa> ubuntunewbie: Yes, copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ or ~/.fonts, then run sudo fc-cache -r
[10:15] <maverick_> ardchoille: 1.6.1
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: thanks would it appear on open office to print ?
[10:15] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: yes
[10:15] <ardchoille> maverick_: I meant the distro
[10:15] <Ilmatic> Hey ardchoille, what are the shortcuts to bring up the cube?
[10:15] <maverick_> ardchoille: karmic
[10:15] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: No idea, I don't use compiz
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> Slart , MenZa: thanks again :-)
[10:15] <Ilmatic> Oh.
[10:15] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: you'll have to restart openoffice though.. and perhaps use that command MenZa suggested
[10:16] <MenZa> Indeed.
[10:16] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: you're welcome
[10:16] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: try grabbing an open area of the desktop with the mouse and dragging it, that used to invoke the cube
[10:16] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Do you not find that (for example) when you go to click in the type box for this chat for example the icons in the dock jump up and get in the way?
[10:17] <ardchoille> Ilmatic: You'll probably get better advice in #compiz
[10:17] <Ilmatic> Oh whatttt
[10:17] <Ilmatic> they actually have a channel for that?
[10:17] <Ilmatic> Lol.
[10:17] <ardchoille> yep
[10:17] <Ilmatic> you learn something new everyday
[10:17] <Ilmatic> okay
[10:17] <theball> use left ctrl alt down arrow and left right arrow
[10:17] <Ilmatic> thanks for all your kind advice ardchoille
[10:17] <ardchoille> yw
[10:17] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I don't have my Irssi window that far down.. but sometimes when I have to click something near the dock it will pop up and "steal the click".. yes..
[10:18] <LewisDre4m> Slart: steal the click rofl
[10:18] <LewisDre4m> I have just turned the zoom level down a tad etc.
[10:18] <maverick_> ok, can anyone suggest any network conf tools except wicd and NM?
[10:18] <maverick_> for wired connections
[10:19] <faileas> maverick_: do it the old fashioned way
[10:19] <maverick_> faileas: interfaces?
[10:19] <faileas> maverick_: yes
[10:19] <Juggalo> hello room i installed UNR 9.10 at netbook and something is wrong with the desktop... there's no way to put an icon or right-click it (btw i put the classic gnome desktop look)
[10:20] <maverick_> faileas: lol thats what i did, but i still need a gui network manager :P..
[10:20] <faileas> maverick_: why?
[10:20] <faileas> if its a wired connection, just let it do it automatically
[10:20] <faileas> for wireless, just use a script
[10:21] <maverick_> faileas: hmm good point..hehe
[10:22] <nmvictor> hi guys, i need help. I wish to recompile the package kannel so i want to get  the source with apt-get source, i have tried this and its not working, someone please tell me, do i need to add something in source.list, i know their is an answer to this.Please help
[10:22] <snowrichard> nmvictor its not spelled kannel its kernel
[10:23] <faileas> nmvictor: get download the source from their website. use apt-get to work out the deps, then built it using that source
[10:23] <snowrichard> but its unlikely you need to compile it yourself
[10:23] <nmvictor> snowrichard: sorry, i mean kannel.http:www.kannel.org
[10:23] <nmvictor> snowrichard: sorry, i mean kannel.http://www.kannel.org
[10:23] <FloodBot3> nmvictor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <faileas> nmvictor: you don't use apt for compiling from source, in general
[10:24] <nmvictor> faileas: ok, i have the source from their website, would you please point me to a perfet HOWTO on how i could build the deps?
[10:24] <snowrichard> oh sorry i never heard of that app
[10:26] <nmvictor> faileas: so you mean the ./configure make and make install stuff, how do i come up with a .deb with that procedure?
[10:26] <maverick_> nmvictor: use checkinstall and make a deb
[10:26] <maverick_> nmvictor: sudo apt-get checkinstall and then instead of sudo make install, type sudo checkinstall
[10:27] <militant> Is it common for mouse pointer to freeze for a second or so when copying, and again when pasting?  even with very small blocks of text?  i wouldn't think so..
[10:27] <NET||abuse> Hey folks, trying to get a server started up in kvm here.. having trouble.
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i'm a bit new to using virsh, so i'm not 100% on the knowledge front,,
[10:28] <faileas> nmvictor: there's a proper way, and there's checkinstall - replace make install with checkinstall, and install the produced deb with dpkg
[10:28] <nmvictor> maverick_: thanks,thats a perfect help, someone else would have left me figure out where to run the checkinstall
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i run virsh, then i list, i see the 5 vm's on that box, 1 is booted automatically it seems.  there are 2 others i need to get up and runningn ow.
[10:28] <maverick_> nmvictor: no problems :D
[10:28] <NET||abuse> i try start [vmname] and i get bind(): failed.
[10:28] <nmvictor> faileas: thanks, got that from maverick_
[10:30] <faileas> nmvictor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn this is the 'proper' way
[10:30] <koichirose> Hello!
[10:31] <nmvictor> faileas: yea, thats proper
[10:31] <Wazzzaaa> Anybody knows /ml
[10:31] <koichirose> super quick question: which filesystem should I use for a storage hard drive? It would be used only on unix systems (would be great if I could use it with other OSes, not essential though)
[10:31] <faileas> its useful to point that out. lots of people hate checkinstall ;p
[10:32] <nowthatsamatt> ext3
[10:32] <nmvictor> faileas: why?
[10:32] <faileas> koichirose: ext3 is a safe bet. you can use it with other OSes with additional software
[10:32] <koichirose> nowthatsamatt, why ext3? and why not ext4?
[10:32] <faileas> nmvictor: its not the 'right' way to do it. personally i use checkinstall for personal stuff ;p
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> because i've never heard of ext4 and i'm using an ext3 filesystem right now to share over samba to windows/osx/linux boxes
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> and it works fine
[10:33] <faileas> koichirose: firstly, not all the non-linux drivers for ext support ext4. also, there are a few bugs with ext4.
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> if i knew anything more about it, that'd be kinda nerdy, wouldn't it?
[10:33] <faileas> nowthatsamatt: samba totally ignores your filesystem actually
[10:33] <nowthatsamatt> oshi
[10:33] <nmvictor> so the ubuntu deelopers dont use checkinstall too/
[10:34] <faileas> nmvictor: never. they probably have a proper build environment setup
[10:34] <koichirose> faileas, so I made the wrong decision choosing ext4 for my ubuntu 9.10 installation?
[10:34] <faileas> koichirose: not really
[10:34] <faileas> koichirose: but if think you may need to access it from windows or os x, ext3 is more likely to work
[10:35] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: External hard drive?
[10:35] <koichirose> faileas, thank you, I will use ext3
[10:35] <koichirose> but I'd like to discuss ext4 bugs...
[10:35] <faileas> hmm
[10:35] <koichirose> kinja-sheep, yes, it is a sata hard drive in a usb box
[10:36] <nmvictor> ok, since recompiling kannel seems like a bad direction, maybe the problem im facing can easily be solved here, anyone here using kannel  with no problems?
[10:36] <faileas> http://ostatic.com/blog/recent-bug-report-details-data-loss-in-ext4-tso-explains-cause-and-workarounds they should be fixed by now, but this came to mind
[10:36] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: And as for storage (and access by other OSes), you're creating separate partition for that one?
[10:36] <faileas> nmvictor: it isn't a bad direction - but it depends on what the bug is
[10:37] <koichirose> faileas, thanks
[10:37] <nmvictor> i could point you to the link describing the bug, do you mind?
[10:37] <koichirose> kinja-sheep, no. I was thinking a single partition. It'll happen maybe once a year that it will have to be used on non unix oses
[10:38] <faileas> if its a genuine link, and it'll help, sure. question i'd also ask is, do you think the bug will be fixed in a newer version than the repo one?
[10:39] <nmvictor> faileas: the kannel version from repo is same as the version from their website
[10:39] <nmvictor> faileas: i might be wrong since the link actually talks of ubuntu 8.04
[10:40] <derik> is good to have swap activate on a vps
[10:40] <nmvictor> http://kerneltrap.org/17017
[10:40] <nmvictor> faileas: http://kerneltrap.org/17017
[10:40] <nmvictor> faileas: sorry http://kerneltrap.org/node/17017
[10:42] <koichirose> another question: I need to clone a ntfs hard-drive to this newly bought ext3 hard drive
[10:42] <zaggynl> that's not a question
[10:42] <koichirose> it seems that gparted can't clone ntfs drives
[10:42] <maverick__> koichirose: master slave and copy?
[10:42] <koichirose> ?
[10:43] <maverick__> kochirose: connect both the hard disks and just copy?
[10:43] <sick_fox> hi I need small help - does anybody have experience with booting Ubuntu from usb key on eee 1005?
[10:43] <koichirose> maverick_: copy and paste via nautilus? I was hoping to something more professional
[10:43] <koichirose> maverick_: copy and paste via nautilus? I was hoping for something more professional
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: What's the real issue?
[10:43] <maverick__> koichirose: then i can help you no further hehe
[10:43] <_ruben> you cant clone from ntfs to ext3 .. copy the data, sure .. but not clone
[10:44] <nibbler> hi. when will 9.04 support end?
[10:44] <maverick__> nibbler: 2011 i think
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: Define professional.  As long as it get the job done, then yes, that's one way to go. There are no "professional tools" -- Just various. You might want rsync, I suppose.
[10:45] <nibbler> maverick_: so same as 8.04 lts? great ,-) thanks
[10:45] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep: I tried various utilities that created bootable usb key with ubuntu, but it is not possible to boot from that key (even with right settings in bios)
[10:45] <koichirose> _ruben, you are right, I did not use the correct term. I need something to copy everything thoroughly from ntfs to ext3, i was thinking rsync but was wondering if there was something else
[10:45] <Wazzzaaa> Anybody knows how I can format HTML in gedit? (like indenting)
[10:45] <kinja-sheep> nibbler: April 2011
[10:45] <Wazzzaaa> automagically
[10:45] <maverick__> nibbler: 9.04 is not LTS..LTS support is for 5 years
[10:46] <nmvictor_> faileas: sorry, i lost my connection momentarily, did you get the link?
[10:46] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: You want to install on the netbook?
[10:46] <MASARUwota> koichirose: just once? just copy paste it
[10:47] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep, I only want to boot from usb key on netbook (but it is very strange - it doesnt work)
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> koichirose: rsync -avz --progress --human-readable :)
[10:47] <koichirose> MASARUwota, I don't feel that safe copying and pasting 750gb of data and I wanted to avoid doing each folder one by one
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> sick_fox: I see. Have you tried unetbootin or Ubuntu Startup Disc Creator (under System --> Prefs/Admin)?
[10:48] <faileas> nmvictor_: hmm. its a waaay old version of ubuntu
[10:48] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Hey man, I am trying to work out how to add Gnome panel applets to the cairo dock? The Search one wasn't hard as I could find it in applications --> accesories --> and then drag the icon to the doc. But what about the others? I know the dock has it's own but I had some favourites from the gnome ones?
[10:48] <sick_fox> kinja-sheep, exactly I tried everything you mentioned
[10:49] <faileas> sick_fox: is the usb key in the boot order before say, the hard drive and cd drive?
[10:49] <Slart> koichirose: try rsync.. that's what I used when I moved data between two hard drives recently... you can abort it and resume if you want.. it does all kinds of checking and so on
[10:49] <sick_fox> faileas, yes it is
[10:49] <koichirose> Slart, yes, I was just refreshing my memory by reading the man
[10:49] <sick_fox> faileas, key, cddrive, hdd
[10:50] <nmvictor_> faileas: so you think the bug is fixed, i have just purged the repo kannel and now i want to intsll the development on,
[10:50] <nmvictor_> faileas: *one
[10:50] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I have no idea.. I've never even tried using gnome applets in the cairo dock
[10:50] <CAiRO__> where can i get kernel backports for hardy? i need a kernel >= 2.6.27 for my mainboard sensors to work
[10:51] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Ok, but I have managed to do some as they are in the applications menu and I just drag the icon. . . maybe If I knew where the panel apps are stored I could drag them from there?
[10:51] <kinja-sheep> !backport | CAiRO__ (it is in the repo already)
[10:51] <faileas> nmvictor_: its an old bug. it ought to be
[10:52] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I have no idea.. I'm not even sure they are executable in the same way as regular apps.. they might just be some kind of scripts
[10:52] <MASARUwota> koichirose: rsync is an open source utility that provides fast incremental file transfer
[10:52] <MASARUwota> seems pretty good for your purpose
[10:52] <LewisDre4m> oh, ok man thanks anywya
[10:52] <costinel> heloo
[10:52] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Search for "linux-backports-modules-hardy"
[10:52] <koichirose> MASARUwota, yes. I will use that with -ah
[10:53] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: well, i then find http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-backports-modules-hardy which only has 2.6.24
[10:53] <LewisDre4m> Slart: As an example man, I have no recycle bin now . . . how can I add that to the dock?
[10:53] <CAiRO__> which is not newer than the normal 8.04 kernel
[10:53] <Slart> LewisDre4m: there is a recycle bin applet for the cairo dock.. check the preferences
[10:53] <LewisDre4m> k
[10:53] <faileas> hmm
[10:54] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: how's 2.6.24.26.28 a backport?
[10:54] <koichirose> I was wondering if there's a way to make rsync recognize a simple filename change during a backup. Otherwise it will treat it as a new file and transfer it again
[10:54] <faileas> nmvictor_: hmm.. wait. from what they are saying, it sounds like a hardware problem
[10:54] <nmvictor_> faileas: ok, thats what it sounds, the disk fragmentation part
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Backports is for patches being made (after the release date) on the hardwares. (To ensure that you're getting better supports on certain hardwares such as Wifi).
[10:55] <kinja-sheep> CAiRO__: Compiling a kernel is one way to go.
[10:55] <CAiRO__> kinja-sheep: no, backports are packages from newer ubuntu versions backported to an older one
[10:55] <faileas> CAiRO__: if nothing else works, you might want to take a look at kernelcheck- though the release version is buggy- so you might need to patch it for it to work
[10:56] <faileas> its an app that makes compiling a new kernel very easy
[10:56] <nmvictor_> faileas: but whoever authored the artical found otherwise, that its an arrayIndexOutOfBounds thing, that is if java was the language behind kannel
[10:56] <NickRiviera> morning (gmt -3)!
[10:57] <dnivra> anyone having issues accessing in.archive.ubuntu.com; got an error "Network unreachable" when running "sudo apt-get update"? I'm able to access sites. is the server down or something?
[10:57] <ltsampros> hello.
[10:57] <ltsampros> is there any way to follow ubuntu's development ?
[10:58] <MASARUwota> Itsampros: launchpad, afaik
[10:58] <ltsampros> e.g. on debian one can follow testing or unstable ?
[10:58] <NickRiviera> hey... I woke up today to find out my windows had no 'top bar'... so I did 'sudo metacity --replace &' and now my transparent background beelds to the desktop rather than showing the windows bellow...
[10:58] <NickRiviera> any clues?
[10:58] <Slart> dnivra: it works for me when I type it into a browser
[10:58] <dnivra> I did download the lists from "security.ubuntu.com" successfully. just not possible to access in.archive.ubuntu.com.
[10:58] <dnivra> Slart, yeah works like that for me too. terminal and update manager however cannot access it
[10:58] <Slart> ltsampros: there are prerelease versions of the next version coming along.. but we don't have rolling releases like they do in debian
[10:59] <Slart> dnivra: not sure what could be wrong then.. sorry
[10:59] <dnivra> Actually it says this "59% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (111.91.91.4)] [Connecting to archive.canonical.com (91.189.90.142)]"
[10:59] <Slart> ltsampros: you can go to #ubuntu+1 and ask for more info there.. that's the official channel for the next version
[10:59] <ltsampros> Slart: thanks!
[11:00] <dnivra> Slart, cool. thanks.
[11:01] <nibbler> will support for ati cards that were supported before, but not in 9.10 anymore, ever come back, or is this dropped?
[11:02] <LewisDre4m> Slart: I promise this is the last question lol. I was just on my merry way navigating through my computer . . Minimised the home folder I was looking in and POOF! gone. tried it again and POOF! gone. Seems as though minimising windows do not go to the dock?
[11:02] <andrey_> ghbdtn
[11:02] <andrey_> приет
[11:02] <bevans> .
[11:02] <Slart> LewisDre4m: if you put a shortcut to nautilus on the cairo dock they should end up there
[11:02] <Slart> !ru | andrey_
[11:03] <LewisDre4m> Slart: What is natilus?
[11:03] <Slart> LewisDre4m: nautilus is the file browser.. like explorer.exe in windows
[11:03] <LewisDre4m> how do I add that?
[11:03] <Slart> LewisDre4m: the think that opens if you double click on a folder on the desktop, for example..
[11:04] <LewisDre4m> Slart: How do I add that? Is there an option in configuration?
[11:04] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: its setup by default
[11:04] <LewisDre4m> Well clearly it isn't lol
[11:04] <Slart> LewisDre4m: I think I just dragged a window to the dock.. I guess you can create the launcher yourself if you want to
[11:05] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: create a launcher with the "nautilus"command in it
[11:05] <LewisDre4m> All I wanna do is be able to have my minimised windows to the dock. Stupid if im browsing my music for example and I minimise it it disapears
[11:05] <LewisDre4m> MASARUwota: is there an option in configuration I can tick?
[11:05] <MASARUwota> LewisDre4m: idk
[11:06] <Slart> LewisDre4m: don't other apps go to the dock when you minimize them?
[11:06] <LewisDre4m> yes but a browsing window is not an app man
[11:06] <LewisDre4m> thats the problem
[11:07] <LewisDre4m> :( im gonna hvae to stop using this program If i cant find a way. So your saying if you were in "my music" and you minimised it you would get it in your dock
[11:08] <Slart> LewisDre4m: yes
[11:08] <DeaCon> get it on the dock , right click , make it a launcher?
[11:08] <nmvictor_> faileas: do you program in C?
[11:08] <LewisDre4m> deacon I am a newbie and don't get what yoru saying lol
[11:09] <Slart> LewisDre4m: look.. just right click on the dock and select "Add a custom launcher"
[11:09] <LewisDre4m> ye I dont know what to type as the commmand
[11:09] <DeaCon> if you right click the icons on the dock you can make them launchers
[11:09] <Slart> LewisDre4m: launcher name, I use File Manager.. you can use anything you like
[11:10] <Slart> LewisDre4m: "command to run on click" is on my system "nautilus --browser computer:///"
[11:10] <dr0id> the video at http://codeigniter.com/tutorials/watch/intro/ can't be played, can anyone tell me how do I play it?
[11:10] <Slart> LewisDre4m: image's name or path is system-file-manager
[11:10] <candeira> I just bought a replacement laptop, and I would like to just put the old one's drive into it instead of installing again
[11:11] <Slart> LewisDre4m: that should do it
[11:11] <candeira> how can I then make ubuntu recognise the hardware?
[11:11] <MASARUwota> dr0id: its quicktime :/
[11:12] <Slart> candeira: as long as you're using the same architecture you should be fine.. ie 32bit x86, 64bit x86 and so on
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> Slart: Perfect man thank you
[11:12] <candeira> Slart, but I mean the network card etc
[11:12] <dr0id> MASARUwota: do I need to download anything for that?
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> christ knows why that wasn't included in mine. I must have buggered something
[11:12] <Slart> candeira: that should work without any big problems
[11:12] <LewisDre4m> there must be a GUI option for that somewhere but Icouldn't find it
[11:13] <LewisDre4m> Thank you so much for your help Slart really appreciate it
[11:13] <LewisDre4m> Thank you to everyon else who helped too.
[11:13] <candeira> Slart> thanks
[11:13] <Slart> dr0id: it kind of works on my system.. playing in embedded totem player.. not sure what I've installed
[11:13] <candeira> see you all in 15 minutes
[11:13] <Slart> LewisDre4m: you're welcome
[11:13] <Ilmatic> why don't more people use ubuntu????
[11:14] <Ilmatic> i'm having the funnest time with these compiz effects
[11:14] <Ilmatic> lol
[11:14] <raven_> which tool is able to edit surround-files (ac3, wav 6 chan, ...)?
[11:14] <MASARUwota> dr0id you can give qt4linux or openquicktime a try
[11:14] <dr0id> Slart: when I open the page my browser finds for MPEG-4 AAC decoder
[11:14] <MASARUwota> dr0id tho i dont think thatll work :X
[11:14] <Slart> raven_: audacity might work
[11:15] <raven_> Slart, possibly it can open theese files but it cannot create more than stereo - you know more?
[11:15] <dr0id> what all do I need to install from synaptic to play the video>
[11:15] <dr0id> videos*
[11:15] <dr0id> ?
[11:16] <Slart> dr0id: yes.. I can open it in vlc as well.. it's a .mov file with mp4a audio and avc1 video (or at least that's the codec it's using to play it)
[11:17] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: because we prefer usefull stuff to bloatware. Which other companies (apple, windows) see in a totaly different light.
[11:17] <MASARUwota> The unix philosophy is: Write a program that does one thing, and that does it well.
[11:17] <Ilmatic> But it's sooo pretty though..lol.
[11:17] <meway> What is the command to start wine in a terminal I am running ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[11:18] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: you shouldnt judge a book by its cover, which is what mac users do
[11:18] <dr0id> I have installed everything which I get on searching for quicktime in synaptic package manager. but still the video isn't playing.
[11:18] <Slart> meway: wine in a terminal? you mean the text only wine thing?
[11:19] <dr0id> which player do I search for now?
[11:19] <MASARUwota> dr0id: its quicktime, apple never made a linux quicktime player
[11:19] <Slart> meway: try wineconsole
[11:19] <meway> no i mean sudo wine start      something
[11:19] <Ilmatic> Mac is a great OS
[11:19] <dr0id> MASARUwota: so what do I do now?
[11:19] <Slart> meway: ouch.. never run wine as root.. never.. ever
[11:19] <MASARUwota> Ilmatic: i beg to differ, but lets not get into that
[11:19] <Ilmatic> Lol. K.
[11:19] <meway> slart ok
[11:19] <BlouBlou> Slart: It will run graphically, but all commands... will appear in a terminal
[11:19] <MASARUwota> dr0id: download the vid and play it locally
[11:19] <Slart> meway: just run "wine someprogram"
[11:19] <meway> Slart: well I think it may be haveing issue's
[11:20] <MASARUwota> dr0id: if youre running firefox you can find the properties of the vid, and you should just wget that
[11:20] <meway> Slart: it is not running programms it useually dose
[11:20] <meway> Slart: I can not get itunes to work.
[11:20] <Slart> meway: I'm not really sure what you're trying to do.. you might want to ask in #winehq instead.. that's the offical wine support channel
[11:20] <dr0id> MASARUwota: ?
[11:20] <meway> oh they have a room?
[11:20] <dr0id> wget?
[11:22] <Ilmatic> Hey is there a ubuntu general chat channel?
[11:22] <BlouBlou> Ilmatic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <Ilmatic> thanks mucho bloublou
[11:23] <Ilmatic> : )
[11:23] <BlouBlou> no problem
[11:23] <MASARUwota> dr0id: the wget command in your terminal its an application to download stuff
[11:23] <dr0id> isn't it aptget?
[11:23] <dr0id> apt get?
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: no, thats for installing software using aptitude
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: wget is for regular downloads
[11:24] <MASARUwota> :/
[11:24] <dr0id> so what should I do in the terminal?
[11:24] <dr0id> which command?
[11:24] <candeira> to do what?
[11:24] <MASARUwota> dr0id: cd <directory you want to download it to>
[11:24] <dr0id> play the codeigniter video tutorial
[11:25] <yetifoot> hi all, what's a paint program, say on the scale of kolourpaint but for gnome?  i tried gnu paint, but that has no undo etc, and gimp is too much to learn for this 4 minute job i need to do
[11:25] <MASARUwota> dr0id: then:    wget <location of the file to download>
[11:25] <Slart> yetifoot: why not go with kolourpaint then.. you can use KDE apps in gnome if you want
[11:25] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: there isnt such a tool, but i know that fspot has such a thing
[11:25] <yetifoot> Slart, i don't want all of KDE4, i hate kde4
[11:25] <meway> well you just directed me to a room with over 100 afk people slart
[11:25] <nicky> hi, running karmic, I'm having trouble with apache2, when i tried to restart it (after executing  a2enmod rewrite) an error appeared:  (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address.  any thoughts?
[11:25] <yetifoot> or any of it
[11:26] <Slart> yetifoot: it will install the KDE libraries that you need automatically
[11:26] <yetifoot> i don't want them
[11:26] <Slart> yetifoot: ok.. nevermind then
[11:26] <MASARUwota> lol yetifoot
[11:26] <meway> lol
[11:26] <raven_> Slart, do you know something about audacity and surround?
[11:26] <yetifoot> i've ditched kde for a reason
[11:26] <yetifoot> it'a appalling now
[11:26] <Slart> raven_: not really.. no
[11:26] <meway> raven how much is audacity?
[11:27] <yetifoot> jeebus, all a man wants to do is shoop the popes head onto an ugly fat woman
[11:27] <MASARUwota> yetifoot :/
[11:27] <Slart> yetifoot: go learn gimp already... =)
[11:28] <yetifoot> it took me about 2 hours last time just to crop one row of pixels in gimp, the kind of thing that takes me 1 minute to learn in any other program
[11:28] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: youre doing something wrong then
[11:29] <Slart> yetifoot: then use something else.. something you're used to.. virtualbox lets you run windows stuff if you think that's easier
[11:30] <simonsoft> Hi all
[11:30] <MASARUwota> !hi|simonsoft
[11:30] <faileas> yetifoot: when did you last use KDE?
[11:31] <MASARUwota> yetifoot: http://www.gnu.org/software/gpaint/gpaint_screenshot.png
[11:32] <yetifoot> MASARUwota, that kind of looks like the thing i just installed, it didn't even have undo...
[11:32] <yetifoot> faileas, a few weeks ago
[11:32] <MASARUwota> lol
[11:33] <faileas> yetifoot: hmm, how about a online application? say http://aviary.com/tools/phoenix
[11:34] <tiger__> how i can  connect the internet with tp-link wr541+
[11:34] <tiger__> i mean with wireless
[11:34] <yetifoot> faileas, i'm trying it out now, thank you, i see it has undo already
[11:34] <faileas> lol
[11:34] <tiger__> I  don't know how to configure it
[11:34] <faileas> most important thing one needs
[11:36] <faileas> tiger__: that seems to be a router - so plug in a system to ethernet, work out its ip address, configure it there, then connect as per normal
[11:36] <meway> dose anyone know of an alternate synthesia game that works with ubuntu?
[11:36] <ARishi> Is there a way to just update a specific PPA, running sudo apt-get update everytime I had a PPA for a small application takes 10 minutes to finish on my slow connection (eventhough I have only the default PPAs till now)
[11:37] <BryanCT> I plan to start doing iPhone development on Linux and I've decided to go with Ubuntu.  I have 2 harddrives. 1 is 40 gigs holding my Windows installation and then I have a second harddrive . I already have files on it so I want to create just a tiny partition maybe 30gb tops. I burned 9.10 to disc and I get to the Ubuntu menu but soon as I press enter, my screen goes black and then if I hit a button keyboard I see some stuff about unmount
[11:37] <BryanCT> able
[11:37] <mkultra_> hi boys
[11:37] <BryanCT> And yes I would need to dual boot. I don't need Ubuntu for anything else. I may dab with it from time to time but my main focus is iPhone development
[11:38] <mobius2> Greetings Ubuntu Channel
[11:38] <mkultra_> i would virtual machine it @ that point
[11:38] <mkultra_> whats up
[11:38] <mobius2> I have a most odd  but seemingly simple problem
[11:38] <yetifoot> ok, thanks for suggestions, i'm gonna give up and install a windows one
[11:38] <mobius2> apparently there is a webserver daemon already running on  my system but I dont remember installing or starting one
[11:38] <andrzej> hahaha
[11:39] <andrzej> hahaha
 maybe it was a dependency of some other app
[11:39] <draco_> http://dracojesi.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=67 <-- Linus to Receive Nobel Peace Prize?
 netstat -l will show youo what ports are listening :\
[11:39] <BryanCT> mkultra: Why? 1) iPhone SDK is supported only by osx x but people have managed to get it working under Linux and Windows. I don't want to use any of the MSYS or Cygwin. So I decided to opt for Linux.
 lsof | grep apa or similar will show you what files are open, from there you can go check it out :D
[11:39] <mobius2> I was installing a development server called xampp and when it attempted to start up thats when the "webserver daemon already running" error appeared... and no  there is some kind of server running in deed on port 80 of my machine
[11:39] <mobius2> :/
[11:40] <mobius2> it's serving a simple  "it works"  html file
[11:40] <om26er> !test
[11:40] <BryanCT> Anyway besides what I want to do with Ubuntu. Anybody have an idea to my installation woes?
[11:40] <mobius2> I'd love to kill that process but TOP shows nothing
[11:41] <tia> quit........
[11:41] <mkultra_> ps aux | grep firefox
[11:41] <lpsmith> why is ulimit broken under karmic koala?
[11:41] <mkultra_> kill -n 9 pid
[11:41] <tia> i dont understan about you aren talk
[11:41] <lpsmith> I'm a developer trying to debug a broken process,  and it's not killing the process when it allocates too much memory
[11:42] <tia> hy............
[11:42] <lpsmith> in fact,  I can set ulimit -d 0;  ulimit -m 0  and still start processes
[11:42] <faileas> mobius2: given a choice, you really don't want to be using xampp
[11:42] <faileas> its not secure
[11:43] <mobius2> I think it's a built in server called apache2
[11:44] <mobius2> but  why would it be serving actively ?
[11:44] <mobius2> and  how to kill it?
[11:44] <mobius2> faileas  thanks  but I have no intention of  diong anything other than developing with the lampp  project
[11:44] <mobius2> what an odd thing though
[11:45] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, can wireshark be installed on ubuntu?
[11:45] <jmeng> yeah, the package is called wireshark, too
[11:45]  * mkultra_ punches Ilmatic in the face
[11:45] <jmeng> apt-cache search wireshark
[11:45] <mkultra_> yes
[11:46] <Ilmatic> what was the punch for?
[11:46] <mkultra_> what cant be installed on ubuntu
[11:46] <Ilmatic> virus
[11:46] <mkultra_> i have compiz installed on linux from scratch
[11:46] <Ilmatic> : )
[11:46] <mkultra_> you would have to write a chitty little virus and install it yourself to do that
[11:47] <faileas> mobius2: in which case, how about trying to change the ports xampp's apache listens to?
[11:48] <mkultra_> prolly in the apache configs?
[11:48] <jmeng> I'm having a problem with gnome shortcuts, namely when I try to invoke, say, xterm or gnome-terminal using a hotkey, the terminals don't start in ~, but in /. Using the menus will make them end up in ~, however. Any idea what the problem is here?
[11:48] <faileas> xampp has its own set of confids iirc
[11:49] <Slart> jmeng: I think you need to add a switch to change the starting directory
[11:49] <mkultra_> ekkk gnomes fugly
[11:49] <bazhang> !ot | mkultra_
[11:49] <mkultra_> except for glunarclock
[11:50] <mkultra_> !ot | bazhang
[11:50] <mobius2> yay
[11:50] <mobius2> I figured it out
[11:50] <mobius2> apachectl -k stop
[11:50] <mobius2> thats the command which killed the apache server
[11:50] <mobius2> except mine was apache2
[11:51] <jmeng> Slart, huh, the weird thing is that the command in the menu editor is plain gnome-terminal, too
[11:51] <dr0id> I can't see the codeigniter videos
[11:51] <dr0id> I need help please
[11:51] <jmeng> I mean it looks like shortcuts somehow don't source some environment stuff
[11:51] <jmeng> which is utter and complete garbage :/
[11:52] <Slart> jmeng: not really sure what difference there is between running a shortcut from say the Desktop and running it from the menu
[11:52] <jmeng> hm, ok, well I'll try my friend google. He's cool.
[11:52] <jmeng> Thanks, though :)
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: Since you installed Ubuntu for first time recently, have you done everything for looks to your likings?
[11:53] <nelson8874> hello everybody
[11:54] <nelson8874> i'm very noob, so i have a very noob question
[11:54] <mobius2> star3am you are the bomb
[11:54] <kinja-sheep> Hello nelson8874 -- Ask away.
[11:54] <mobius2> thanks a million
[11:54] <nelson8874> i've downloaded a program and it is a tar.gz file. what do i do with this?
[11:55] <fogobogo> nelson8874: decompress
[11:55] <nelson8874> doe
[11:55] <kinja-sheep> nelson8874: What program is it?
[11:55] <nelson8874> done
[11:55] <faileas> nelson8874: read the readme file
[11:55] <nelson8874> it'a a wbfs manager
[11:55] <fogobogo> nelson8874: next step is probably compile
[11:56] <Slart> !compile | nelson8874
[11:56] <firekool> with ubuntu 9.10 you can still install on the bootsector and not the mbr correct?
[11:56] <catlady> yep
[11:56] <firekool> Can you do that with the regular live cd and not the alternate cd
 nice one bro. you did it all :)
[11:57] <faileas> nelson8874: hmm. if you don't mind, link where you got it from - all references i can find are for a windows app
[11:57] <mkultra_> why did xubuntu go to install only
[11:57] <nelson8874> faileas: ok
[11:57] <kinja-sheep> nelson8874: Same as https://launchpad.net/wiithon ?
[11:57] <mkultra_> i must have xubuntu in live cd form
[11:58] <Ilmatic> hey I can't find wireshark for ubuntu
[11:58] <Ilmatic> any ideas?
[11:58] <faileas> mkultra_: try asking the xubuntu channel
[11:58] <jmeng> the package is called wireshark
[11:58] <faileas> didn't wirechark change their name?
[11:58] <nelson8874> faileas: http://code.google.com/p/linux-wbfs-manager/downloads/list?q=label:Featured
[11:58] <Younder> xubuntu? considered a tiled window manager?
[11:58] <mkultra_> ffs theres an xubuntu channel
[11:58] <Slart> !info wireshark | Ilmatic
[11:59] <kinja-sheep> Ilmatic: We gave you link to search for packages.  Learn how to use it first will make things much much easier for you.
 lol
[11:59] <Slart> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get install wireshark will install it
[11:59] <Younder> I was thinking of stumpwm
[11:59] <mkultra_> ./configure --help will help your wire shark situation
[12:00] <Ilmatic> yayyy thanks slart
[12:00] <faileas> nelson8874: ok, we can be semi sute it'll work.. so..  read the readme - make sure the prerequisites it mentions are installed. then
[12:00] <Younder> ok, so I also like vim
[12:00] <Younder> rather than gvim
[12:00] <mkultra_> i like elvis
[12:00] <catlady> elvis would have loved ubuntu
[12:00] <Tiders> Ilmatic, A useful command to know is "apt-cache search <name>" and that will give you a list of packages that contain that word or phrase
[12:00] <Younder> mkultra_, well, still a vi clone
[12:01] <faileas> nelson8874: ./configure first - if it works, then 'make', then either sudo make install, or sudo checkinstall - the latter needs the checkinstall package but it makes a package instead of installing, which is easier later
[12:01] <Ilmatic> thanks mucho tiders. : )
[12:01] <mosfet> hi... anyone know how many size is a base system installation with ubuntu minimal disc?
[12:01] <mkultra_> ./configure && make && su -c 'make install'
[12:01] <mkultra_> lets be gangsta about it
[12:01] <Younder> mosfet, 8 MB
[12:01] <kinja-sheep> mosfet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:02] <faileas> mkultra_: you don't use su on ubuntu, generally
[12:02] <mkultra_> su -c?
[12:02] <catlady> when does LTS come out?
[12:02] <faileas> mosfet: under a gig
[12:02] <Younder> mkultra_, see sudo
[12:02] <faileas> catlady: next release is LTS- its due in april
[12:02] <mkultra_> ive only installed sudo on my LFS box i dont have sudo on here
[12:02] <oeil2lynx24> hi
[12:02] <faileas> mkultra_: this isn't LFS. this is ubuntu, and it uses sudo
[12:02] <nelson8874> faileas: i'm noob, i do not understand what you're saying. And english is not my first language...
[12:02] <Younder> mkultra_, you have to set it up.
[12:02] <catlady> thanks...I'm on Jaunty....Karmic upgrade was disaster....decided to wait it out
[12:02] <oeil2lynx24> hello the world
[12:03] <Younder> mkultra_, on ubuntu it is already set up
[12:03] <Slart> catlady: 2010, month 4... hence the version number 10.04
[12:03] <mkultra_> su -c should be as good as sudo on ANY nix system
[12:03] <catlady> ok
[12:03] <faileas> nelson8874: ok. you have extracted the archive. there should be a readme file there. it should tell you what other packages you need.
[12:03] <nelson8874> faileas: are you're saying i should configure it? what does that mean?
[12:03] <faileas> also, read that link about compiling
[12:03] <candeira> it worked!
[12:03] <Slart> mkultra_: ubuntu doesn't have a root password set.. su uses the root password
[12:03] <oeil2lynx24> ya til d francofones ici ?
[12:03] <Younder> catlady, good choice. I have just now gotten everything to work again
[12:03] <nelson8874> faileas: ok packages...
[12:04] <faileas> nelson8874: its a command. ./configure basically checks to see if you have everything you need, and tells you if anything is missing.
[12:04] <Slart> mkultra_: and just in case.. no we don't support having a root password set either
[12:04] <mkultra_> i see your saying root is completely locked down
[12:04] <catlady> jaunty works perfect for me...karmic had screen resolution problems, faulty disk notices...and ubuntu one glitches..nightmare
[12:05] <Slart> mkultra_: I don't know about locked down.. but the root password isn't set.. you can still use sudo for your root things.. sudo -i for a shell and so on
[12:05] <Younder> Slart, I have it set.. I just use it if I have to log in for maintenance if X boot should fail
[12:05] <fogobogo> nelson8874: mind you will need the -dev packages. else the linker will fail
[12:05] <faileas> nelson8874: if it works, go on to using the command 'make' . if that works 'make install' puts everything where it should be. checkinstall is an optional package that makes a deb instead of installing it- i prefer this approach since i can add and remove self compiled apps with apt or dpkg
[12:05] <faileas> you use make install or checkinstall, depending
[12:05] <Tiders> mkultra_, Ubuntu does not have a root account because it is more secure.  If someone is going to hack into your system the first name they would try to use is "root" because every system woudl have this it is harder to guess a username.  Also this makes it able for every user to have a different admin password instead of everyone sharing the root account so if you need to remove admin rights from someone you can remove them from the
[12:05] <Tiders>  sudoer list and not have to change the root password and re-tell everyone the new password
[12:05] <Slart> Younder: the recovery mode will get you a root shell.. and you can still login in with your regular user if X fails to start
[12:06] <Younder> Slart, yes but the root shell requires a root password
[12:06] <Slart> Younder: but anyways.. it's not forbidden to have a root password.. it's just that we don't support it here in this channel
[12:06] <mkultra_> but with sudo you could sudo passwd
[12:06] <Slart> Younder: no
[12:06] <nelson8874> faileas: installing that program is complicated, i've tried another one, instaled with no proble,  but it says "You can not access the partitions because the user who launched wiithon not belong to the group "disk"." Showing the games of the last session.
[12:06] <mobius2> well everybody have a good night from Colorado
[12:06] <Younder> Slart, to log in you need to add the text option to the grub line
[12:06] <nelson8874> what does thast mean?
[12:06] <Slart> mkultra_: noone has said it's impossible.. but we do no support it here
[12:06] <faileas> nelson8874: hmm- that's fixable - you add yourself to the group
[12:06] <catlady> good night mobius2
[12:07] <nelson8874> faileas: how??
[12:07] <Slart> Younder: there is a recovery option in grub that will get you a root shell.. without root password.. without extra switches and so on
[12:07] <Slart> Younder: not sure if it's just busybox or a real shell.. but still
[12:07] <szpuni> hi
[12:08] <nelson8874> faileas: damn, that is the hard part of linux, instaling things is almost everytime a dificult task
[12:08] <szpuni> how I can check who changed or readed file in ubuntu?
[12:08] <szpuni> is there any command which I can use
[12:08] <faileas> nelson8874: 'sudo usermod -g disk username' should work for the latter
 cioa dude
[12:08] <faileas> nelson8874: it gets easier with experience
[12:09] <geirha> faileas, nelson8874: No that's bad. Use adduser instead. ''adduser user group'' adds user to group
[12:09] <geirha> (with sudo in front of course)
[12:09] <uk72tab> DID
[12:10] <geirha> faileas: usermod -g will change the gid of the user
[12:10] <Younder> geirha, that's bad advice, just adduser doesn't set up the groups right
[12:10] <nelson8874> geirha: adduser: O utilizador `user' não existe
[12:11] <geirha> nelson8874: sudo adduser yourusername thegrouptoadditto
[12:11] <uk72tab> DID
[12:11] <uk72tab> KPO
[12:11] <uk72tab> PHP
[12:11] <uk72tab> DE
[12:11] <dr0id> how can I get quicktime on ubuntu?
[12:11] <uk72tab> SS
[12:11] <FloodBot3> uk72tab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <geirha> Younder: What do you mean?
[12:11] <uk72tab> DF
[12:11] <uk72tab> LS
[12:12] <faileas> geirha: adduser will erase other groups your in, iirc
[12:12] <nelson8874> geirha: ahhh, ok...:-[
[12:12] <uk72tab> OK
[12:12] <faileas> nelson8874, geirha : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[12:12]  * mkultra_ punches uk72tab in the face
[12:12] <Younder> geirha, tried that. You are better off using off using the menu system -> administration -> users and groups
[12:12] <mikebeecham> hi there...I'm having problems mounting my HTC Hero onto Jaunty...can anyone help?
[12:13] <mkultra_> is it an ISO?
[12:14] <mikebeecham> mkultra_: are you talking to me?
[12:14] <nelson8874> geirha: adduser: the user myusername do not exist
[12:14] <catlady> nelson8874: I'm looking to buy a webcam for my Dell that will play nice in Ubuntu...any suggestions?
[12:14] <mkultra_> yeah mikebeecham
[12:14] <Younder> catlady, any webcam will do
[12:14] <mikebeecham> mkultra_: it's an android phone!
[12:15] <Slart> catlady: webcams can be tricky.. I would go find a model that seems nice.. then search the ubuntu forums to see if there are a lot of people asking about it or reporting success stories
[12:15] <catlady> thanks
[12:15] <geirha> Younder: adduser is the preferred way in the terminal. Maybe you confuse it with useradd?
[12:16] <geirha> nelson8874: Sure you got it right? It's case-sensitive
[12:16] <nelson8874> geirha: should i create a user name first?
[12:16] <mkultra_> fix your skeleton first
[12:16] <Younder> geirha, been a while since i did it, but I seem to remember you you need a fe addgrp's as well
[12:16] <Younder> few
[12:17] <unop> Younder, the 'disk' group already exists as a system group tho
[12:17] <geirha> nelson8874: Didn't you want to add your current user to the group?
[12:17] <mkultra_> man usermod
[12:18] <mkultra_> its usermod -g group
[12:18] <mkultra_> its usermod -g <group>
[12:18] <geirha> mkultra_: NO! that changes the primary group
[12:18] <unop> gee
[12:18] <mkultra_> lol i pointed @ the manual first
[12:18] <edeca> I installed a bunch of packages from a repository by mistake before pinning.  Am I safe to remove them, pin correctly in /etc/apt/preferences and then reinstall them?
[12:19] <Younder> edeca, no
[12:19] <nelson8874> geirha: i just installed the program, and it keeped saying "You can not access the partitions because the user who launched wiithon not belong to the group "disk". Showing the games of the last session." since... I should create a username and join the group...?
[12:19] <edeca> Younder: So what's the best fix?
[12:19] <edeca> Younder: I basically want to revert to the versions of packages before I did the mistaken upgrade
[12:19] <nelson8874> geirha: wiithon is a wbfs partition manager
[12:20] <unop> nelson8874,  just run this command, as it is.   sudo adduser "$USER" disk
[12:20] <unop> nelson8874, and no, you don't need to create any further users or groups
[12:21] <Younder> edeca, the source for this kinda thing is www.ubuntugeek.com
[12:21] <mkultra_> caugh usermod
[12:21] <unop> edeca,  remove them and then use the -t flag to apt-get or aptitude to force target release
[12:21] <nelson8874> unop: it says that i'm already a member of disk
[12:21] <edeca> unop: That's what I planned
[12:21] <geirha> nelson8874: For the new group membership to take effect, you need to logout and log back in
[12:21] <Younder> edeca, also thegeekstuff is woth reading
[12:21] <Younder> worth
[12:22] <unop> edeca,  i.e.   apt-get install -t karmic package ...
[12:22] <edeca> unop: I've pinned correctly now, so it should stick to the right versions :)
[12:22] <edeca> unop: It's actually debian-backports (for apt-dater-host, which isn't in anything else)
[12:22] <edeca> unop: But obviously I don't want apache/mysql/etc from debian backports :)
[12:22] <Younder> versionining is a real problem in Karmic
[12:22] <unop> edeca, hmm, as long as you know what you are doing
[12:23] <Younder> one that has not been successfully solved
[12:23] <nelson8874> unop: do you know this program. Can i use it to format my pen in wbfs?
[12:23] <unop> nelson8874, which program? I guess not
[12:24] <nelson8874> geirha: how do i logout
[12:24] <petsounds> hi. can anybody tell me, i forgot the ssh cmd for nautilus to share file between two ubuntu computer. thanks
[12:24] <edeca> petsounds: scp
[12:24] <unop> nelson8874,  errm, log off - from the gnome menu
[12:24] <nelson8874> i'm almost rippig my hair off!!!!!
[12:25] <BCMM> is it possible to "install" packages while running the ubuntu live cd?
[12:25] <BCMM> (as in, for the live session)
[12:25] <unop> nelson8874,  you know the menu item you use to shutdown/restart the PC, beside these options is something like "logout"
[12:25] <petsounds> edeca, no. sthe like " name.ipaddress "
[12:25] <unop> petsounds, errm,    ssh -X  hostname nautilus
[12:26] <nelson8874> unop: restart the pc, right?
[12:26] <unop> nelson8874, no, you don't need to restart, just logout and log back in
[12:26] <Younder> any easy way to convert a old macs \r to \n
[12:26] <Younder> ?
[12:26] <Younder> Or ill just do it the old way in C
[12:27] <unop> Younder,   perl -i -0pe 's/\r/\n/g' file
[12:27] <Guest6877> hello
[12:27] <Younder> unop: thaks. I just realized sed wouln't cut it
[12:28] <unop> Younder, sed can do it, as long as you change the "pattern space" (I guess that's the term) - but that's unweildly
[12:28] <geirha> Younder: And tr: tr '\r' '\n' <file >newfile
[12:29] <nelson8874> IT WORKED, IT WORKED
[12:29] <Younder> geirha, ah forgot about tr
[12:29] <nelson8874> FINNALLY
[12:29] <unop> yay!!
[12:29] <catlady> congrats
[12:29] <Younder> nelson8874, don't scream...
[12:30] <nelson8874> i'm to happy, sorry...
[12:30] <nelson8874> :)
[12:30] <Guest6877> are organizing a osscamp for all the linux enthusiasts in chandiagrh
[12:31] <Guest6877> for any further info please join the googler group : http://groups.google.com/group/osscampchandigarh
[12:31] <nelson8874> but the program do not do what i expected :'(
[12:32] <edeca> unop: When checking apt-cache policy, why doesn't my debian backports entry have a line like: "release v=8.04,o=Ubuntu,a=hardy-security,l=Ubuntu,c=multiverse"
[12:33] <nelson8874> trying to format my pen in a wbfs file system. Can someone help my find a program that can do that? someone?
[12:33] <unop> edeca,  can you post the output to a pastebin? that's odd.
[12:33] <DSheth> hello
[12:33] <edeca> unop: Sure
[12:33] <DSheth> how do i run a .run file
[12:34] <Younder> nelson8874, I think you are out of luck. don't seem to remeber any driver for that format
[12:34] <edeca> unop: http://pastebin.ca/1740064 - there (with most of the ubuntu stuff missing)
[12:34] <fogobogo> DSheth: file <file>.run
[12:34] <vinceman> the sound of my totem player doesn't work, VLC does work, what could the problem be?
[12:34] <fogobogo> DSheth: should tell you what it really is
[12:35] <fogobogo> DSheth: likely shellscript
[12:35] <unop> edeca,  errm, did you do an apt update?
[12:35] <DSheth> it says sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[12:35] <DSheth> but it doesnt work
[12:35] <Younder> vinceman, check if you are in the sound group
[12:35] <lena> How can I reset my vista password from ubuntu?
[12:35] <vinceman> Younder? the sound group?
[12:35] <Slart> lena: I don't think so, no
[12:35] <vinceman> this is the ubuntu Xchat, not the sound group, if that's what you mean :(
[12:35] <fogobogo> DSheth: try sudo bash bla.run
[12:36] <Younder> vinceman,  system -> administration -> users and groups
[12:36] <lena> Slart: You're wrong.
[12:36] <nelson8874> Younder: i found one. but don't know how to install it. This is the file i downloaded linux-wbfs-manager-0.1.11.tar.gz
[12:36] <Slart> lena: I would try booting from your vista install cd instead.. I think you can do it from there
[12:36] <edeca> unop: Yes, aptitude update
[12:36] <lena> Slart: It didn't come with a cd...
[12:36] <unop> edeca,  lets look at the output of an apt-cache policy command then
[12:36] <vinceman> I can see my account and root's account there, Younder
[12:36] <nelson8874> Younder: how do i install this...?
[12:36] <edeca> unop: That is the output of apt-cache policy
[12:36] <unop> edeca, full output i mean
[12:36] <edeca> unop: Sure, 2 seconds
[12:37] <fogobogo> nelson8874: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[12:37] <Slart> lena: try one of these solutions http://4sysops.com/archives/three-ways-to-reset-a-windows-vista-admin-password/
[12:37] <Younder> nelson8874, typically in /usr/src do a tar xzvf <file> then a ./configure then a make, then a make install
[12:38] <edeca> nelson8874: checkinstall is a much nicer solution
[12:38] <edeca> nelson8874: Look into checkinstall instead
[12:38] <nelson8874> Younder: sorry, i'm tottally new in linux. you must be more especific
[12:39] <edeca> unop: http://pastebin.ca/1740071
[12:39] <nelson8874> edeca: how do i use checkinstall?
[12:39] <Younder> nelson8874, if you are totally new you really shouldn' be doing this
[12:39] <catlady> anyone know a solution to get abiword to play nice with compiz? I get these black lines under the text when I type...
[12:39] <edeca> Younder: I strongly suggest you point people at checkinstall (or similar) instead of random 'make install' commands that leave mess everywhere :)
[12:39] <fogobogo> Younder: well. theres alwasy a first time
[12:39] <DSheth> that doesnt work
[12:39] <vinceman> Younder I see a group settings window but it's grey
[12:39] <DSheth> how do i set a directory
[12:40] <DSheth> its saved under downloads
[12:40] <nelson8874> Younder: edeca says to use checkinstall, is it more safe?
[12:40] <mutant19> hello
[12:40] <edeca> unop: It looks like debian backports has the default score of 500.  I pushed the Ubuntu ones to 600 so they are default.
[12:40] <Younder> edeca, sorry, old habit. I don't do it anymore, but I sometimes lapse
[12:40] <crash2108> I have custom drivers that make a serial port at /dev/ttyHS0-2.  How do I "rename" the serial port to TTY1?
[12:40] <edeca> crash2108: You can either symlink or write udev rules
[12:40] <unop> edeca, hmm, yea, maybe you didn't add all this extra info in your apt preferences file?
[12:40] <dooglus_> nelson8874: seems there's a pre-compiled thing for wbfs here: https://launchpad.net/wiithon
[12:40] <Slart> lena: this looks interesting http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/change-your-forgotten-windows-password-with-the-linux-system-rescue-cd/
[12:41] <unop> edeca, the absence of this info is not detrimental. so i wouldn't worry
[12:41] <gidna> Hi
[12:41] <Younder> nelson8874, instead of make install, yes, it plays nicely with the debian package manager
[12:41] <edeca> unop: It's the missing line.  I can't select on the debian backports repo in /etc/apt/preferences as the repository has no extra info!
[12:41] <edeca> unop: So I can't say Pin: release a=debian-backports
[12:41] <edeca> unop: Because the apt policy hasn't picked up that metadata about the repository
[12:41] <gidna> I would like to know if the usb adapter Belkin wifi 54G 69320-9 is compatible with ubuntu
[12:42] <edeca> gidna: What did Google say?
[12:42] <DSheth> how do i set directory
[12:42] <nelson8874> Younder: how do i use checkinstall?
[12:42] <edeca> DSheth: "set" ?
[12:42] <DSheth> i mean so i can run a program
[12:42] <gidna> I dont' find this model
[12:42] <edeca> gidna: On the whole, most modern wifi adapters work
[12:42] <edeca> DSheth: That question doesn't make much sense, can you tell us exactly what you are trying to do?
[12:42] <unop> edeca, i don't think the debian-backports thing is a release -- you might need to pin by origin
[12:42] <DSheth> im trying to start a program
[12:42] <edeca> unop: Aaah!  Origin?  How do I specify the origin?
[12:42] <ceW> ce_sma_2
[12:43] <DSheth> but i forgot how to run it
[12:43] <edeca> DSheth: That has nothing to do with directories, though
[12:43] <ceW> hy
[12:43] <Younder> nelson8874, you don't, yet. You need a bit more linux experience first
[12:43] <edeca> DSheth: /path/to/program
[12:43] <ceW> thh
[12:43] <crash2108> edeca, Can you exlain that in more detail?  I'm actually using "HSO" drivers for Globetrotter 3G GRPS/GPS.  Trying to get the GPS output with GPSd.  Can see the NMEA output in Putty but I don't think most programs support the alternate serial port.
[12:43] <ceW> hmm
[12:43] <dooglus_> DSheth: use 'cd' to change directory.  then ./programname to run it.
[12:43] <unop> edeca, something like.  Pin: origin www.debian-backports.org    # note how it's the domain name that matters
[12:43] <pranay> hi , i am not able to see temp of my location  next to time , in ubuntu 9.10 ,
[12:43] <DSheth> ok
[12:43] <edeca> unop: That's good enough for me to go google, thanks
[12:44] <edeca> unop: I read a few HOWTOs that pinned on "a=debian-backports"
[12:44] <DSheth> its not working...
[12:44] <nelson8874> dooglus_: it seems wiithon don't format. i'm trying to format my pen in wbfs
[12:44] <catlady> pranay...need to edit and add location
[12:44] <dooglus_> nelson8874: ok, sorry then
[12:44] <unop> edeca, hmm, it's possible that works, but that doesn't make sense to me
[12:44] <vinnie_> can someone please help me compile ktorrent? This is what I get so far. http://pastebin.com/mb66287
[12:44] <dooglus_> nelson8874: where'd you get that .tar.gz?
[12:44] <edeca> crash2108: I'm unsure completely, but basically when a new device is created the udev rules in /etc/udev device what names it will have
[12:44] <DSheth> look the program is in my download's folder...
[12:44] <nelson8874> Younder: so i'm not installing the prog... :'(
[12:44] <edeca> unop: Nope, me neither.  I'll try your origin idea, thanks
[12:45] <pranay> catlady: i have done that ,but its not working :(
[12:45] <catlady> pranay: what happens?
[12:45] <nelson8874> dooglus_: http://code.google.com/p/linux-wbfs-manager/downloads/list
[12:45] <catlady> pranay...try using zip code instead of location
[12:46] <dooglus_> nelson8874: I'll try building it, and paste a log
[12:46] <unop> edeca, ahh,  something like a=lenny-backports  or  a=etch-backports   makes sense tho
[12:46] <edeca> unop: Origin works, thanks
[12:46] <edeca> unop: a=lenny-backports does not work :(
[12:46] <catlady> pranay: or try a different location nearby
[12:46] <edeca> unop: For some reason, apt has no idea about that metadata it seems
[12:47] <unop> edeca, it's plausible that ubuntu does not know about those releases -
[12:47] <edeca> unop: Definitely.  Especially as they are not ubuntu ones :)
[12:47] <l0gin> hi all
[12:47] <edeca> unop: I wonder if there is a way to get that metadata somehow
[12:47] <nelson8874> dooglus_: that would be great. (this is what keeps me in the ubuntu family, people helping each other)
[12:47] <edeca> unop: Like you can aptitude install debian-backports-keyring
[12:47] <DSheth> how do i run a program which is in a folder
[12:47] <l0gin> How can I launch a gnome-terminal with current dir set to the desired one instead of ~/ ?
[12:48] <fogobogo> DSheth: ./binary
[12:48] <edeca> DSheth: The same way you run anything else.  What program is it?  Is it executable?
[12:48] <Slart> DSheth: cd <foldername>     then    ./<programname>    might work
[12:48] <unop> edeca, well, usually it's just a matter of adding the repository in - but i guess there's a bit more to it
[12:48] <edeca> l0gin: cd /desired/dir && gnome-terminal
[12:48] <jrib> DSheth: double click (or be more specific)
[12:48] <l0gin> edeca,  thank you :)
[12:48] <edeca> jrib: Heh :)
[12:48] <Xeon_> how do i do "man fgets" on ubuntu?
[12:48] <catlady> or right click open with
[12:49] <MASARUwota> Xeon_: open terminal, type command
[12:49] <Pici> Xeon_: install the manpages-dev package
[12:49] <dooglus_> nelson8874: there's no need to install it
[12:49] <pranay> catalady: no its not working , i had upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10
[12:49] <dooglus_> nelson8874: just make it and run it locally
[12:49] <Xeon_> ok..let me try
[12:49] <tobylane> how can i make a grub iso in ubuntu
[12:49] <dooglus_> nelson8874: of course, I did miss you original question.  what are you wanting to do?
[12:50] <catlady> pranay: fresh install best...karmic has issues..i'm still on jaunty cuz it is better 4 me...
[12:50] <l0gin> Is it possible to create a gnome launcher which will do "cd /desired/dir && gnome-terminal" ?
[12:50] <l0gin> I tried the simple way and it doesnt work
[12:50] <nelson8874> dooglus_: :) i just wanted to install/run it
[12:50] <MASARUwota> l0gin: i think so, otherwise make a script
[12:51] <nelson8874> dooglus_: i need to format my pen in wbfs
[12:51] <catlady> pranay: workaround....install weatherbug
[12:51] <catlady> weatherbug for linux
[12:51] <jrib> l0gin: you want to execute cd in the shell /after/ you start gnome-terminal.  Check out the options for gnome-terminal maybe
[12:51] <nelson8874> dooglus_: so i can use the wiithon program
[12:52] <Slart> l0gin: you can do this instead "gnome-terminal --working-directory <some folder>"
[12:52] <catlady> pranay: or install screenlets and use weather channel app
[12:52] <Xeon_> Pici: How come ubuntu does not come with manpages-dev?
[12:52] <nelson8874> dooglus_: what do you mean with "just make it and run it locally"
[12:52] <pranay> catlady: ok
[12:52] <Pici> Xeon_: Because theres next to no reason to have it installed by default.
[12:52] <Xeon_> manpage is handy
[12:52] <DSheth> the file is in /home/dipesh/downloads
[12:52] <nelson8874> dooglus_: make it? run it locally?
[12:53] <jrib> !who | DSheth
[12:53] <Pici> Xeon_: For developers perhaps.
[12:53] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hey, I'm having problems getting jack to run correctly - I get the error: ALSA: cannot configure playback channel
[12:53] <nelson8874> dooglus_: i feel like a 5 year old kid...
[12:53] <dooglus_> nelson8874: I downloaded and built it - here's a log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352299/
[12:53] <dooglus_> nelson8874: try what I did, and let me know if you get different results.  you can skip the 'checkinstall' step, 'cos it didn't help
[12:55] <nelson8874> dooglus_: ok, i feel like a 3 old kid. I do not understand what you whant me to do with that log file
[12:55] <DSheth> im trying to run an installer from my download folder how do i do this?
[12:56] <nelson8874> dooglu_: i do not know what that things mean...
[12:56] <nelson8874> dooglus_: i'm sorry, i'm too noob.
[12:56] <jrib> DSheth: if you want help, you need to answer questions so we can help you.  Tell us *exactly* what you are trying to install
[12:56] <dooglus_> nelson8874: that shows how I built the program
[12:56] <dooglus_> nelson8874: did you build it too?
[12:57] <DSheth> wolfenstein enemy terriotory
[12:57] <DSheth> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[12:57] <nelson8874> dooglus_: what is built? (i'm almost crying)
[12:57] <inder> i want to open source project for linux
[12:57] <jrib> DSheth: run « cd ~/Desktop », then run the command given on that link for installation
[12:57] <inder> can anybody help me
[12:57] <dooglus_> nelson8874: building is compiling.  taking source code to make a program
[12:58] <jrib> DSheth: sorry.  ignore that.  run « cd /home/dipesh/downloads »
[12:58] <dooglus_> nelson8874: I see you mention an error about 'group disk'.  how do you see that error?
[12:58] <nelson8874> dooglus_: the only thing i did was "extract here"
[12:58] <K3rl0u4rn> hi people, what would you use if you wanted to display a picture during a second and then quit from command line ? I thaught feh would do that but I can't find a way to let it quit after a second
[12:58] <DSheth> jrib: it says no such file or directory
[12:58] <pranay> catlady: ya its working for a nearby location, thanks
[12:59] <jrib> DSheth: what is the name of the file you downloaded?
[12:59] <catlady> pranay: cool :)
[12:59] <DSheth> jrib:et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[12:59] <Slart> K3rl0u4rn: some app to show the pic.. "sleep 3" and then somehow kill the picture showing app.. pkill, kill or something
[12:59] <jrib> DSheth: why do you have a file older than the one given on the wiki?
[13:00] <DSheth> jrib: because i want to install the older version
[13:00] <DSheth> jrib: it should work exactly the same...
[13:00] <aMVadder> hi, anybody know howto install skype in karmic? I cannot find it from medibuntu repository
[13:00] <K3rl0u4rn> Slart: wanted to avoid the kill method but if that's the only solution... why not
[13:00] <catlady> amVadder: go to the Skype website.....
[13:00] <grombl> for installing skype visit skype.com
[13:00] <pranay> catlady: also i am not able to install the nvedia graphics card drivers using either hardware drivers nor envyng,,, the error which i get using envyng is http://pastebin.com/m34509cf
[13:00] <jrib> DSheth: « chmod +x et-linux-2.55.x86.run; sudo ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run »  make sure you need sudo by reading the documentation for the game, I don't anything about it
[13:01] <Slart> K3rl0u4rn: I think that would depend on the app you use to show the picture.. there might exist one that does it more gracefully
[13:01] <Slart> !skype
[13:01] <pranay> catlady: it just hangs after some initial stage
[13:01] <catlady> pranay: look for alternate drivers in synaptic
[13:01] <catlady> package manager
[13:02] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hey, I'm having problems getting jack to run correctly - I get the error: "ALSA: cannot configure playback channel". When running jackd from the terminal I get this: http://stikked.com/view/19958940 Any ideas folks?
[13:02] <DSheth> jrib: same error again no such file or directory
[13:02] <aMVadder> catlady, grombl thanks.
[13:02] <jrib> DSheth: pastebin the last 10 commands you ran and their output
[13:02] <madura> hey guys where can i find a GUI client for FFMpeg?
[13:02] <DSheth> jrib:i dont understnad
[13:02] <Oli``> Is there a virtual printer that I can install on Windows that allows Ubuntu to print to it and it forwards the print job onto a Windows-only printer connected to the same machine?
[13:02] <BlouBlou> madura: Try winff
[13:02] <jrib> DSheth: copy the last 10 commands you ran and their output, go to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:03] <jrib> !pastebin | DSheth
[13:03] <madura> BlouBlou, k thanks
[13:03] <catlady> aMVadder: you are welcome...you may need to tweak the sound specs once installed but should work
[13:03] <BlouBlou> madura: No problem
[13:03] <K3rl0u4rn> Slart: no matter, kill -15 works with feh so hey, that's ok
[13:03] <QQ13006769> ?
[13:04] <MASARUwota> !china|QQ13006769
[13:05] <DSheth> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352303/
[13:05] <SpoZen> Hey guys, how can i make n indefinitely, in this command: find . -links n? I would like to search for file with more than 2 links
[13:06] <jrib> SpoZen: +2     ?
[13:06] <SpoZen> jrib: thanks
[13:06] <jrib> DSheth: bash: cd: /home/dipesh/downloads: No such file or directory
[13:07] <DSheth> jrib: ??
[13:07] <jrib> DSheth: you can't ignore output.  output usually means something went wrong.  Isn't that where you said the file was?  Linux is CaSe SeNsItIvE
[13:07] <DSheth> oh
[13:07] <DSheth> so downloads is Downloads lol
[13:07] <jrib> DSheth: yes
[13:08] <DSheth> jrib: i feel stupid now
[13:08] <hamzaatova2> do you know why does ubuntu booted for the first time on some laptop and then sttoped booting again?????????????????????
[13:08] <anodesni> Hi, i have just read this http://makethemove.net/getstarted.php site and I want to try out ubuntu. My laptop, however, only has 768 vertical pixels and I am afraid for the two panels on the desktop. Is there some way to have only one panel or is KDE better?
[13:08] <drivendreamer> hi everyone
[13:08] <BlouBlou> !hi | drivendreamer
[13:08] <SpoZen> Crap, didn't work... I need some way to find all hard links + soft links. find . -type l only finds soft links
[13:08] <DSheth> jrib: its working now thank you very much
[13:08] <drivendreamer> i just have a simple question
[13:09] <jrib> anodesni: the interface is very customizable, just right click on a panel and delete it, right click on the other panel and add what you want
[13:09] <BlouBlou> drivendreamer: Well, ask it :)
[13:09] <hamzaatova2> how do i convert movies from youporn to avi???????
[13:09] <drivendreamer> i use dvd-r's for back-up
[13:09] <drivendreamer> and i have a couple of them which
[13:09] <drivendreamer> a;ready have files on them but not burned
[13:09] <drivendreamer> i mean, i only use them as a flash drive
[13:09] <drivendreamer> but when ubuntu mounts them
[13:09] <drivendreamer> it turns out im not the owner and cant edit them
[13:10] <hiren> what is the command to connect remot PC through command line ?
[13:10] <anodesni> jrib: that's good to hear. Also, I have an ATI card and a friend of mine said it can be troublesome under linux. Is this true? I don't want to play games, only video and support for 2nd screen/beamer.
[13:10] <heikki124> hi. is it possible to somehow store the f-spot database on a portable hard disk?
[13:10] <drivendreamer> ive tried changing the owner in so many different ways and none worked
[13:10] <DSheth> jrib: sorry an error: /home/dipesh/.setup18086: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or dire
[13:11] <heikki124> or would you suggest a better software for image-catagorizion
[13:11] <jrib> anodesni: don't know, but if you don't want 3d I think your ok.  Some older cards have issues iirc.  Check out the wiki page:
[13:11] <jrib> !ati | anodesni
[13:11] <kinja-sheep> anodesni: It *can* be troublesome but it does not change the fact that some people have troublesome with Nvidia cards too.
[13:11] <hiren> any body tell me how to connect remotely through command line
[13:11] <drivendreamer> can anyone help?
[13:11] <DSheth> jrib: i tried sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 but it said Package libgtk1.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:11] <DSheth> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[13:11] <DSheth> is only available from another source
[13:11] <anodesni> jrib: thanks
[13:11] <jrib> DSheth: (as the wiki link you gave me states) you need gtk 1.2
[13:11] <heikki124> hiren: remotely? like ssh username@hostname
[13:11] <Slart> hiren: ssh is popular
[13:12] <hiren> ok
[13:12] <kinja-sheep> !ssh | hiren
[13:12] <kinja-sheep> hiren: "sudo aptitude install ssh" and you're done.
[13:12] <hiren> thanks my frieng
[13:12] <hiren> friend
[13:12] <DSheth> jrib: isnt it available anymore
[13:12] <BlouBlou> I think it comes installed by default
[13:12] <hiren> ok
[13:12] <heikki124> ssh client is installed by default, but ssh daemon isn't (if i remember correctly)
[13:13] <kinja-sheep> BlouBlou: The client does, but not the server.
[13:13] <hiren> what is the use of ssh daemon ?
[13:13] <BlouBlou> heikki124 - kinja-sheep: Ah okay, thanks :P
[13:13] <kinja-sheep> hiren: sshd
[13:13] <hiren> ya
[13:13] <hiren> but what is that ???
[13:13] <SerbThug> hello everzone. I have had some problems with fs. when that recovered, some inodes were deleted. So now I have lost+found dir full of backups. Some suggestion prehaps?
[13:13] <drivendreamer> can anyone help?
[13:13] <jrib> DSheth: I think you are correct that it is no longer in the repositories.  The wiki states it's only needed if you want to install with a GUI so I assume you can install without a gui.  Or you will have to install gtk 1.2 yourself
[13:13] <heikki124> hiren: daemon is something where you connect to.. client is what you use to connect to the daemon (server)
[13:14] <hiren> ok
[13:14] <hiren> that mean server
[13:14] <DSheth> jrib: can you help me install it without gui?
[13:14] <jrib> DSheth: I don't know how
[13:14] <DSheth> jrib: ok
[13:14] <kinja-sheep> hiren: Daemon is something that is running all times in the background.
[13:14] <hiren> ok
[13:14] <hiren> some thing like cron ?
[13:15] <heikki124> no
[13:15] <hiren> then ?
[13:15] <heikki124> not really, or... well, cron is also running in the background ;)
[13:15] <hiren> i am new to the ubuntu
[13:15] <jrib> DSheth: here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371283
[13:15] <hiren> ok
[13:15] <drivendreamer> hello, is anyone able to help me?
[13:16] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: how about stating the problem
[13:16] <Slart> !ask | fogobogo
[13:16] <drivendreamer> i did
[13:16] <Slart> oops.. sorry
[13:16] <fogobogo> Slart: thanks :D
[13:16] <jrib> DSheth: I'd be wary of mixing packages like that though, make sure you don't chase dependencies that override what's currently in karmic.  It's best to grab the source package and rebuild it
[13:16] <drivendreamer> my problem is that i dont 'own' my dvds! and cant change the owner
[13:16] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: how about doing it again?
[13:17] <heikki124> what is the best software for managin hundreds of jpg's ?
[13:17] <DSheth> jrib: ok ty
[13:17] <Slart> fogobogo: just.. in case.. well.. ;)
 picasa
[13:17] <heikki124> ok
[13:17] <audrius> hi
[13:17] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: well. system > administration > user + groups
[13:17] <drivendreamer> no, that did not work, fogobogo
[13:17] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: something like that
[13:17] <drivendreamer> let me elaborate
[13:17] <fogobogo> oh ok
[13:18] <nighty> hi
[13:18] <drivendreamer> these are rewriatbel dvds i use to back up files
[13:18] <fogobogo> ok
[13:18] <nighty> is there a way to install ubuntu without a cd on an asus eeepc?
 add yourself to the group that does own the DVD ?
[13:18] <drivendreamer> and i tried changing owners on the terminal
[13:18] <Slart> !usb | nighty
[13:18] <drivendreamer> the owner is not even the root
[13:18] <bazhang> nighty, unetbootin
[13:18] <drivendreamer> its user -1 which does not exist
[13:18] <drivendreamer> nor the group, group -1
[13:19] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: well. chown to change the owner
[13:19] <drivendreamer> i tried that too, and it would work either
[13:19] <fogobogo> sure. its read only
[13:19] <drivendreamer> no
[13:19] <drivendreamer> i mean, i didnt burn them
[13:19] <fogobogo> ok
[13:20] <drivendreamer> i just used them as a flash drive
[13:20] <drivendreamer> if i get on windows
[13:20] <fogobogo> hmm
[13:20] <drivendreamer> i can edit them just fine
[13:20] <drivendreamer> but on ubuntu
[13:20] <drivendreamer> i cant
[13:20] <bmm> Hi. I've installed CompizConfig settings manager in Lucid but the Shadow Windows option in the Decorator plugin does not seem to have any effect. Is that a bug or intentional?
[13:20] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: well. part of the problem is that a dvd doesnt store owner/permissions
[13:21] <plustax> Im having a bit of a problem. Someone helped set me up so I can have different wallpapers on each one of my 6 desktops, but now for some reason I can't put icons on it. At all.
[13:21] <drivendreamer> okay
[13:21] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: however. if you operate as root you should be able to access it
[13:21] <bazhang> bmm, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[13:21] <bmm> bazhang: thanks!
[13:21] <drivendreamer> i dont even want it to store the option
[13:21] <drivendreamer> just
[13:21] <drivendreamer> want to be able to erase/delete files on it
[13:21] <INV4D5R> hi
[13:21] <drivendreamer> i tried operating as root, would work either
[13:21] <drivendreamer> would not*
[13:21] <jrib> plustax: if you used compiz then you stopped nautilus from drawing your desktop so you could have the different wallpapers (nautilus also draws the icons)
[13:21] <drivendreamer> root is not the owner :(
[13:22] <plustax> jrib what do I do to fix it?
[13:22] <drivendreamer> i cant even blank it
[13:22] <drivendreamer> at least not on the graphical mode
[13:22] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: shouldnt matter. what you use for blanking?
[13:22] <chilli0> Whats wrong with this code ? ( Im testing my webserver ) chilli0@Command:~$ exec -o mpscan -p1 -e999 192.168.254.9 - 192.168.254.9
[13:22] <jrib> plustax: there's nothing broken.  If you want to go back to nautilus handling your desktop, just undo what you did
[13:22] <drivendreamer> brasero
[13:22] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: oic. open a terminal and type sudo brasero
[13:22] <plustax> jrib here's the thing. I don't remember what the guy did. A friend went in and did it for me.
[13:23] <Slart> !gksudo | fogobogo
[13:23] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: that should run brasero with root privileges
[13:23] <fogobogo> plustax: or that
[13:23] <jrib> plustax: what does this return: « gconftool-2 -g /apps/desktop/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop »
[13:23] <drivendreamer> "no available disk"
[13:23] <drivendreamer> but it is mounted
[13:23] <fogobogo> nice.
[13:24] <plustax> No value set for `/apps/desktop/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[13:24] <INV4D5R> I do not speak English, someone here speak Portuguese??
[13:24] <Slart> !pt | INV4D5R
[13:24] <drivendreamer> its really nuts, no one owns the dvd, no one can make changes to it :S
[13:24] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: gksudo brasero?
[13:24] <plustax> jrib No value set for `/apps/desktop/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[13:25] <zong> hello
[13:25] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: else come with the big hammer. su root; wodim blank=fast /path/to/disc
[13:26] <jrib> plustax: maybe the location was changed, I can't check because I don't have nautilus installed.  Do you remember changing something in gconf?
[13:26] <mauri> if I update kde from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu karmic main....will i be able to came back the the previous one ?
[13:26] <drivendreamer> ok, give me a few
[13:26] <kinja-sheep> mauri: Best to use PPA instead of DEB because we're talking about lot of dependencies.
[13:27] <plustax> jrib alright I need to run. Ill look into this later. Thank you for your help.
[13:28] <kinja-sheep> mauri: As for coming back, it is not impossible but it certainly will be hard thing to do. You'd have to find out which packages were updated. Purge the package. Eliminate the PPA. Install kubuntu-desktop again.
[13:28] <drivendreamer> its not doing it
[13:28] <drivendreamer> says use tsize= option in sao mode to specify track size
[13:28] <peter_mit_majest> \join #thinx
[13:29] <mauri> kinja-sheep: which is the line i have to add to source if the one i highlited before is not the best?
[13:30] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: but it accesses it!
[13:30] <drivendreamer> yup
[13:30] <drivendreamer> actually, i am able to access the dvd
[13:30] <Laraaa> hi
[13:30] <kinja-sheep> mauri: I'll find you the link.
[13:30] <drivendreamer> i just cant create/delete files on it
[13:31] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: likely not. that "use a disk like a floppy" feature isnt the best to begin with.
[13:32] <drivendreamer> well, on windows it worked just fine :(
[13:32] <kinja-sheep> mauri: http://tinyurl.com/yavml32
[13:32] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: yeah. but its a big pile of ugly hacks to get that functionality.
[13:33] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone recommend an email client that interfaces seemlessly to gmail and gives me all the gmail functionality without downloading my email to my computer? At the moment I just use firefox but its a bit slow
[13:33] <tiger__> can somebody tell me when I want to install a deb file, error occurs that  "Please close the other application e.g. update manager ,aptitude, synaptic first"  what can I do know
[13:33] <drivendreamer> well, if i could at least blank it
[13:33] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: chrome?
[13:33] <drivendreamer> i dont care for the files that are on the dvd now, i want to create new ones
[13:33] <JonathanEllis> dooglus_: What is chrome?
[13:33] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: if im not mistaken you might be lucky with udftools or udfutils.
[13:33] <tiger__> I   restart my system many times ..  It still have the same problems
[13:33] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: You only can have one package manager running at a time.
[13:33] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: google's alternative to firefox
[13:33] <drivendreamer> what is that?
[13:33] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: well. thats wodim blank=<some mode>
[13:33] <fogobogo> drivendreamer: man wodim
[13:34] <drivendreamer> ok
[13:34] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: http://www.google.com/chrome
[13:34] <jarod511> Hi
[13:34] <mauri> kinja-sheep: thanks a lot... the last question if i can
[13:34] <julezz> Hello! does anyone know howto install teamspeak-client3 on Ubuntu?
[13:35] <jarod511> iwould like to know if there's a mean to restore a fresh sources.lst :) ?
[13:35] <kinja-sheep> mauri: Go ahead. Ask away.
[13:35] <tiger__> kinja-sheep:  how can shut down the others
[13:35] <JonathanEllis> dooglus_: I meant I want to use an email client instead of a browser. I tried Google Chrome on Windows about a year ago but it wasnt robust and couldnt support various features of websites at the time. I see its still in beta but then I guess thats google for you. Ten years to get out of Beta I expect
[13:35] <mauri> kinja-sheep: how can I find which packages have been updated in order to remove them?
[13:35] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: What is on your Desktop?
[13:36] <kinja-sheep> mauri: Are you using Kubuntu?
[13:36] <tiger__> kinja-sheep:   how can I shut the others since I   never open the application
[13:37] <tiger__> many files on my desktop
[13:37] <mauri> kinja-sheep: yes
[13:37] <MASARUwota> julezz: download it and compile it
[13:37] <drivendreamer> no, it wont do it
[13:37] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: Maybe it crashed.
[13:37] <kinja-sheep> !aptfix | tiger__ (Try that).
[13:38] <tiger__> ubottu: yes the os also tell me that ,,
[13:38] <dooglus_> julezz: 32 or 64 bit?
[13:38] <floating1> just installed java run time on old pc, and after the install update-apt-xapi stays active and is hogging up my mem and cpu. what is it doing ?
[13:38] <jarod511> what's the use of the sources.lst.d folder ?
[13:38] <julezz> dooglus_:32bit
[13:39] <MASARUwota> jarod511: its a daemon
[13:39] <dooglus_> julezz: cd /tmp && wget 'wget http://ftp.4players.de/pub/hosted/ts3/releases/beta-9/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.0-beta9.run' && chmod 755 TeamSpeak* && ./TeamSpeak*.run
[13:39] <jrib> jarod511: you can add repositories there and keep them organized in different files
[13:39] <jarod511> MASARUwota: so i must not remove files in this folder ?
[13:39] <kinja-sheep> mauri: I don't know the correct way to do it but the way I do it, I would purge all KDE packages (and stuck back in the console), remove the beta-thing file, then install it again using kubuntu-desktop metapackage.
[13:39] <MASARUwota> jarod511: why would you?
[13:40] <dooglus_> julezz: miss out the 2nd wget, sorry
[13:40] <dooglus_> julezz: cd /tmp && wget 'http://ftp.4players.de/pub/hosted/ts3/releases/beta-9/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.0-beta9.run' && chmod 755 TeamSpeak* && ./TeamSpeak*.run
[13:40] <jarod511> MASARUwota: i think my apt sources are a little bit messy
[13:40] <jarod511> MASARUwota: it's time to clean up
[13:40] <MASARUwota> jardo511: only edit the file then, dont touch the folders D:
[13:41] <jarod511> MASARUwota: if a repo is in sources.lst.d it must not figure in sources.lst right ?
[13:41] <kinja-sheep> mauri: This is for amd64, you can see all related packages -- http://tinyurl.com/yaydxyw
[13:41] <MASARUwota> jarod511: i think itll change when you restart
[13:41] <dooglus_> jarod511: you can make a file in the .d folder, or you can edit the sources.list file - they're equivalent.  you can do both if you like, but then you'll have a duplicate entry
[13:41] <mauri> kinja-sheep: which is the different between sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta and add the line sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta into source.list
[13:42] <dooglus_> mauri: the add-apt-repo command sorts the keyring out for you too I think
[13:43] <tiger__> ubottu:  the command can not run  in my terminal
[13:43] <aLeSD> hi all
[13:43] <kinja-sheep> mauri: This is a new feature in Karmic. It makes it easier to add a new PPA (and signature too!) using a single command instead of having to resort back to editing /etc/apt/sources.list (and then sign the signature manually).
[13:43] <mkanyicy> tiger__, what do you want to run?
[13:43] <kinja-sheep> mauri: You shouldn't add a line "sudo add-apt-repository ppa: etc" in the sources.list.
[13:43] <mkanyicy> hi aLeSD
 !aptfix | tiger__ (Try that)  :    I don't know how to do it ... I   am a newer  to Ubuntu
[13:44] <aLeSD> I searching a way to send crypted mail
[13:44] <pete_> mauri, sudo is a command
[13:44] <kinja-sheep> !aptfix | tiger__
[13:44] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: Open a terminal in Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal and do the command above.
[13:45] <tiger__> an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked
[13:45] <jarod511> hmmm, i think it's better to create list files in sources.list.d instead of editing sources.lst... though the sources.lst remains clean. Am I wrong ?
[13:45] <mauri> kinja-sheep: ok i think to have understood.... but in this way how can see which repo I've added
[13:45] <kinja-sheep> mauri: By taking a look in /etc/apt/sources.list (and if any), in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ too.
[13:46] <dooglus_> mauri: the add-repo command thing will make you a file in the sources.list.d/ dir
[13:46] <tiger__> kinja-sheep>:  I am not familiar with the command
[13:46] <dooglus_> mauri: so you can still see what you have added
[13:46] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a" (w/o quotes).
[13:46] <tiger__> can you show me step by step  (how many lines even blank)
[13:47] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: Just copy and paste above (w/o quotes) into the terminal. Run it.
[13:47] <mkanyicy> kinja-sheep: even with quotes it should work :)
[13:47] <tiger__> It works thank you
[13:48] <kinja-sheep> mkanyicy: "echo Zomg" does not do it.
[13:48] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: You're welcome.
[13:48] <mauri> kinja-sheep: perfect...I saw.   I'm starting with the update.... I hope all will go fine.
[13:48] <Sorhan> morning all
[13:48] <tiger__> w/o quotes  is what ?  can you tell  me
[13:48] <aLeSD> psp is secure ?
[13:48] <mauri> kinja-sheep: I have another curiosity if you want to answer me or if oyu have time again
[13:48] <kinja-sheep> tiger__: Without quotes.  Quotes --> "  "
[13:48] <mkanyicy> kinja-sheep, oh? i see but "ls" works
[13:48] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone suggest an email application that integrates well with gmail and gives me the gmail functionality without downloading all my mail to my computer and without using a browser? Gmail is fine but a bit slow in a browser
[13:49] <kinja-sheep> mauri: Ask away.
[13:49] <TheFAX> hello! I'm new with Ubuntu. I have some simple questions. Someone can help me?
[13:49] <MASARUwota> !ask|TheFAX
[13:49] <llutz> JonathanEllis: why don't you use any mailclient with google-imap?
[13:49] <MASARUwota> JonathanEllis: every mailclient can do that
[13:49] <MASARUwota> with imap
[13:49] <MASARUwota> :/
[13:49] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: I've tried a few.  none of them really worked very well in my experience
[13:49] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: try evolution and thunderbird - they both allow you to access gmail using IMAP
[13:50] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: but you don't get the same functionality as on the web page
[13:50] <MindSpark> hi. how do I enable syntax highlighting and vim-full ?
[13:50] <MindSpark> can't seem to find the package vim-full anymore
[13:50] <JonathanEllis> The things I like about gmail are the searching, automatic categories and spam
[13:50] <mauri> kinja-sheep: is there a way to konw from which repository came a determinate package.....I ask you this because sometime a package can be present in more that one repository (i.e. amsn daily)
[13:50] <creative83> Hello together. Any posibility to tell certtool (gnutls) to use /dev/urandom instead of /dev/random ?
[13:50] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, there is a Basic HTML version for gnome that is faster on a browser
[13:51] <Sorhan> probably a simple question ... but how do I get a program to install under wine?
[13:51] <MASARUwota> Sorhan: just run the exe with wine
 open with wine, me fink :)
[13:51] <kinja-sheep> JonathanEllis: Define Slow Gmail.  If Gmail is a bit slower in your browser, I'm guessing you're using Firefox and have multiple addons (and bugs!) which slows it down.
[13:51] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: I think you'll be fine then, so long as you dont mind using the web interface to set up the filters
[13:51] <tiger__> Now I Can install Skype ,,thank you that helped me ....   Happy New year
[13:51] <TheFAX> I want to install some software in a live-USB-persistent ubuntu 9.10. I'd like know how to make the software installed persistent.
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: Yes but that probably doesnt have the functionality
[13:52] <star3am> cheers all, it's home time (party)
[13:52] <dooglus_> I use firefox to access my gmail, and have the 'offline' lab enabled, so I can read and write email using the browser even without a net connection
[13:52] <JonathanEllis> kinja-sheep: Yes I use Firefox with adblock plus and xmarks addons
[13:52] <dooglus_> it doesn't seem slow to me
[13:52] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, what slows down your gmail? is it slow network?
[13:53] <kinja-sheep> dooglus_: Offline Lab? You need to have Google Gears for that one?
[13:53] <dooglus_> kinja-sheep: you do
[13:53] <kinja-sheep> mauri: That one, I do not know.
[13:53] <Sorhan> thanks
[13:53] <creative83> Hello together. Any posibility to tell certtool (gnutls) to use /dev/urandom instead of /dev/random ?
[13:53] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: I dont know. I have 4MB/s broadband so it shouldnt be that. But my PC is only a Celeron 2400 with 1GB of RAM
[13:53] <kinja-sheep> dooglus_: So you're using Windows or is there Google Gears for Ubuntu that I'm not aware of?
[13:53] <dooglus_> kinja-sheep: it walks you through the install though when you enable the lab
[13:53] <dooglus_> kinja-sheep: there's google gears for ubuntu that you're not aware of
[13:53] <Guest12310> irc.dal.net
[13:54] <zzzz> Cracovia Kraków
[13:54] <kinja-sheep> dooglus_: Found it. :)
[13:54] <MASARUwota> zzzz: ?
[13:54] <dooglus_> kinja-sheep: there's google gears for ubuntu that you're now aware of
[13:54] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, gmail is quite fast
[13:54] <zzzz> skad jestes ??
[13:54] <mauri> kinja-sheep: ok thanks for your time
[13:54] <zzzz> ile masz nit ??
[13:54] <MASARUwota> zzzz: zapraszam na #ubuntu-pl
[13:54] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, at least much faster than the new yahoo mail
[13:55] <TheFAX> I want to install some software in a live-USB-persistent ubuntu 9.10. I'd like know how to make the software installed persistent. If someone can help me, use query.
[13:55] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: Mind you facebook is terribly slow on my pc. Sometimes I can write an email on facebook, go away and come back with a cup of tea and the screen might have caught up with my typing.
[13:56] <dooglus_> TheFAX: if you use the USB installer thingy, it has an option to set how much persistent storage to set aside on the USB
[13:56] <MASARUwota> JonathanEllis: pick a light DE/WM and a light browser (midori, chrome/chromium, arora)
[13:56] <legend2440> mauri: to see which repo a package belongs to  open Synaptic then Settings>Preferences>Columns and Fonts and put a check mark next to Components
[13:56] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, then your network is slow
[13:56] <dooglus_> TheFAX: then everything you change/install while booted from it stays between boots
[13:56] <kinja-sheep> mauri: You could try "aptitude show xchat" and see the maintainer <name>
[13:56] <dooglus_> TheFAX: in my experience it works horribly, and within a few boots it will stop working
[13:56] <Diverdude> How do i mount a remote drive to /media using sshfs. I tried: sshfs remoteHost:/remotedir /media/mymount but that did not work....What am I missing?
[13:56] <dooglus_> TheFAX: ie. it will no longer even boot
[13:56] <kinja-sheep> mauri: Although that's a tricky and not everything get updated. The best way is to check the repo manually.
[13:57] <MASARUwota> TheFAX: if you want to try ubuntu out, install it in Virtualbox instead
[13:57] <JonathanEllis> MASARUwota: Whats a DE/WM? The reasons I use firefox are that it has adblock plus and xmarks which synchronises my bookmarks between computers
[13:57] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, if I were you I'd export my firefox bookmarks to a html file and then remove the ~/.mozilla directory and then restore my bookmarks again
[13:57] <entity_k> hello Ubuntu-ers :)
[13:57] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, but I am not sure if that would solve anything either
[13:57] <MASARUwota> JonathanEllis: an environment, like GNOME, KDE, XFCE or something lighter
[13:57] <kinja-sheep> JonathanEllis: Is that all extensions you're using? I use more than you and Gmail seems to be fast. You have old hardware?
[13:58] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: I've seen this bug before
[13:58] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: Why? Anyway, I have xmarks so all my bookmarks are automatically synced
[13:58] <MASARUwota> !hi|entity_k
[13:58] <JonathanEllis> kinja-sheep: Yes I have old hardware, Celeron 2400 with 1GB of RAM
[13:58] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: can you try this for me?  reduce the firefox window down to the size of a postage stamp, then try typing in facebook...  is it much faster?  I think it will be.
[13:58] <TheFAX> dooglus_: I tried to set the "persistent storage space" to about 500Mbyte, but Ubuntu say me "there is not enough space...". Now I installed only TrueCrypt (not more than 20Mb). :-(
[13:58] <MASARUwota> JonathanEllis: you want to have it quicker, right? so install something ligher then D:
[13:58] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, another thing, i like my firefox add-on-free
[13:59] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: I dont like ads!
[13:59] <kinja-sheep> JonathanEllis: That could be it. Gnome for that machine is WOW.  Also, you could try "firefox -safe-mode"
[13:59] <MASARUwota> mkanyicy: addons are the only thing i have firefox installed for :/
[13:59] <dooglus_> TheFAX: not enough space to make the storage?  or after you booted from the USB?
[13:59] <mkanyicy> JonathanEllis, are you browsing bad websites?
[13:59] <TheFAX> MASARUwota: Yes, I tried it on a virual machine. But I need to use ubuntu on different computers with same configuration and same software in portable mode...
[13:59] <mkanyicy> MASARUwota, i thought firefox comes with ubuntu by default
[13:59] <MASARUwota> TheFAX: and same encrypted directories with illegal pornography
[14:00] <MASARUwota> mkanyicy: yes, that doesnt make it good tho
[14:00] <MASARUwota> mkanyicy: its bloated D: just run midori, chromium or arora instead
[14:00] <Diverdude> How do i mount a remote drive to /media using sshfs. I tried: sshfs remoteHost:/remotedir /media/mymount but that did not work....What am I missing?
[14:00] <kinja-sheep> JonathanEllis: I know epiphany-browser have AdBlock feature.  Also, chromium.
[14:00] <MASARUwota> mkanyicy: or ephiphany or galeon
[14:00] <JonathanEllis> mkanyicy: I wouldnt know about bad websites. Porn and stuff, no. But I search the web for things like any user. I dont have any idea which websites I use. Facebook is really slow though
[14:01] <dooglus_> Diverdude: 'sudo'?
[14:01] <dooglus_> JonathanEllis: try what I suggested
[14:01] <IdleOne> JonathanEllis⡈ Chrome and Chromium both have addblock also
[14:01] <MASARUwota> JonathanEllis: use lighter software then
[14:01] <IdleOne> adblock*
[14:01] <Xfact> is there any application installer exists for installing 'tar.gz' installation files?
[14:01] <Diverdude> dooglus_, then it just keeps asking for the password even though i have typed it correctly
[14:01] <mkanyicy> MASARUwota, I rest my case. Firefox is ranked in top three browsers, i bet.
[14:02] <dooglus_> IdleOne: chrome has some kind of ad blocking, but it sucked last I tried it.  it wasn't adblock plus.  is that available for chrome now?
[14:02] <JonathanEllis> IdleOne: How do you get adblock in chrome?
[14:02] <dooglus_> Diverdude: let me try...
[14:02] <kinja-sheep> !compile | Xfact
[14:02] <MindSpark> ok, I have vi in /usr/bin, which is a symbolic link to /etc/alternatives/vi. The latter vi is another symbolic link to  /usr/bin/vim.tiny. However, when I run vi I think I launch a different program than vim.tiny
[14:02] <MASARUwota> mkanyicy: definently, #2 i think, but its still slow. IE is #1, being well known doesnt make it good! and you as a linux user should know that!!!
[14:02] <fogobogo> MindSpark: welcome to ubuntu :D
[14:03] <IdleOne> JonathanEllis⡈ go to the addons page for chrome. dooglus_ it seems to work fine for me here
[14:03] <neil> thank you
[14:03] <dooglus_> Diverdude: works for me?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/352330/
[14:03] <MASARUwota> MindSpark: ever thought about using aliases?
[14:03] <MindSpark> fogobogo, thanks, used it since version 1,
[14:03] <MindSpark> MASARUwota, I am not the one who linked all that up, it was like that
[14:03] <MindSpark> I just have the issue with the cursors
[14:03] <mikebeecham> hello, I am having problems mounting my HTC Hero Android phone onto Ubuntu...can anyone help?
[14:04] <fogobogo> man mount
[14:04] <MindSpark> when I am in insert mode, cursors seem to write A's and B's
[14:04] <Diverdude> yes, it also works for me when it is not in the /media/somefolder folder...I tried in ~/mountall/afolder and then it worked...but not in /media
[14:04] <MindSpark> however, when I run vim.tiny, things work fine
[14:04] <Diverdude> dooglus_, that was for you btw
[14:04] <dooglus_> Diverdude: ok, I'll try that then
[14:05] <neil> ok here's my problem feeling really stupid at the min i need to download a set of files to the temp folder from a link but when i click it, it downloads to my desktop tried manually moving the pages to the temp folder but will not still detect in terminal when i tell it to extract can you please help?
[14:05] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: You don't want it in /media -- Just create /media/something.
[14:05] <Diverdude> kinja-sheep, i did
[14:05] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I have the same problem it appears
[14:05] <Diverdude> kinja-sheep, media/somefolder
[14:05] <JonathanEllis> IdleOne: Which extension would you recommend to block ads? AdBlockChromium?
[14:06] <user___> has anyone else experienced the 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed' error with cups recently?
[14:06] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ok, so it also keeps asking you for password?
[14:06] <IdleOne> JonathanEllis⡈  if your are using Chromium, yeah give it a shot
[14:06] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: You are sure you didn't mistype or connect to wrong hostmachine? What is the command?
[14:07] <JonathanEllis> IdleOne: Well, I just downloaded google chrome, not chromium though I gather they are similar
[14:07] <llutz> Diverdude: you don't have write-access to /media as user, so you cannot mount something there
[14:07] <Diverdude> kinja-sheep, yes i am sure. 100% i triede several times, and it works outside the media/somefolder perfect
[14:07] <dooglus_> Diverdude: a fix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352334/
[14:07] <_dreamy> does blue fish has a list of the HTML tags?
[14:07] <dooglus_> Diverdude: make sure you own the directory you make in /media/ using chown
[14:07] <IdleOne> JonathanEllis: yes they are
[14:07] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I don't get a password prompt, because I use my private key to log in
[14:08] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I just get a hang as it tries over and over to log in
[14:08] <dooglus_> Diverdude: but if I chown the directory, it's fine
[14:08] <JonathanEllis> IdleOne: There are a whole load of adblock extensions. Not sure which to choose https://chrome.google.com/extensions/search?q=adblock
[14:08] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ahh ok, so sudo chown chris:chris /media/court
[14:08] <Diverdude>  does the trick
[14:08] <dooglus_> Diverdude: yup
[14:08] <dooglus_> Diverdude: especially if your username is 'chris' ;)
[14:08] <Diverdude> dooglus_, what does chris:chris mean?
[14:08] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: User:Group
[14:08] <IdleOne> JonathanEllis: try the most downloaded
[14:08] <Diverdude> heheeh
[14:08] <dooglus_> Diverdude: that's the username:group to change it to
[14:09] <Diverdude> ahh
[14:09] <neil> anyone know how to download to temp file instead of desktop?
[14:09] <Diverdude> dooglus_, and if i dont know the group?
[14:09] <dooglus_> neil: how are you downloading
[14:09] <MASARUwota> neil: download to /tmp
[14:09] <dooglus_> Diverdude: it's probably the same as your username
[14:09] <llutz> neil: download with what app?
[14:09] <dooglus_> 'id' in a terminal will tell you
[14:09] <neil> going to ste then clicking a link got to go to the temp file but downloads to desktop
[14:10] <Diverdude> ok..ill try...but i only have to chown it once and it will then remain like that until i deliberatly change it again right?
[14:10] <neil> site*
[14:10] <dooglus_> Diverdude: right
[14:10] <dsnyders> neil, what browser?
[14:10] <Diverdude> ill try..moment
[14:10] <dooglus_> Diverdude: you could probably just chown chris /media/court
[14:10] <dooglus_> Diverdude: the :group part is optional - I doubt sshfs cares about the group
[14:10] <neil> firefox
[14:11] <saintiss> hi
[14:11] <dooglus_> neil: in the options you can set the default download dir
[14:11] <saintiss> is there a reason why java programs are not allowed to make external network connections?
[14:11] <fogobogo> MindSpark: use vim?
[14:11] <Diverdude> dooglus_, what command will reveal the owner of a folder?
[14:11]  * kinja-sheep give Dr_Willis a welcoming cookie
[14:11] <llutz> neil: rightclick the link, chose folder
[14:11] <dooglus_> Diverdude: ls -ld /media/court
[14:11] <saintiss> like a certain daemon or something preventing this?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> Kookies :)
[14:11] <llutz> neil: for general change, go to settings menu and change to your preferred download-folder
[14:11] <MindSpark> fogobogo, I just figured out that the default configuration file is vim.tiny, while I should use the config file for vim
[14:11] <dooglus_> neil: menu > edit > preferences > main > downloads > save files to
[14:12] <neil> how do i get into the options when i click the download it only gives me the option to open or download can't change the destination folder
[14:12] <Diverdude> dooglus_, and THANK YOU sir :D
[14:12] <llutz> neil: rightclick
[14:12] <dooglus_> Diverdude: -l is to show 'long' details, '-d' is to show the directory itself, not the contents of it
[14:12] <kinja-sheep> neil: Add the extension.
[14:13] <dooglus_> neil: menu > edit > preferences > main > downloads > save files to
[14:13] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ohh, so ls -ld is short for ls -l -d ?
[14:13] <dooglus_> Diverdude: yes.  pretty much all programs let you merge short options together
[14:14] <russel> hi, any know how to modify Firefox options by external script?
[14:14] <Diverdude> dooglus_, superduper
[14:14] <dooglus_> fuser -vki is the same as fuser -v -k -i
[14:14] <queso> Is there something like console screen for x? So I could have an x app running and switch to it at another computer without closing and re-starting it?
[14:14] <Diverdude> dooglus_, sorry for the stupid questions...im still a pretty ignorant windows user....but my ubuntu conversion is oing quite well i think hehe
[14:14] <dooglus_> Diverdude: this is the place for your questions
[14:14] <MASARUwota> queso: vnc
[14:15] <dooglus_> Diverdude:  there are no stupid questions, only stupid people ;)
[14:15] <dsnyders> neil, On the firefox menu, click on edit, go down to preferences.  That will bring up a new window.  Click on the icon labelled main.  On that page there will be a downloads section.  Choose the option Always ask.
[14:15] <Diverdude> dooglus_, i only have some problems with skype, and i also think ubuntu is a bit laggy sometimes....which dont really know how to fix
[14:15] <tiger__> can anybody tell me how to configure my notepad wireless  to   surf on internet with TP-link  541G+
[14:15] <neil> just found it thanks
[14:16] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I use skype daily.  it's probably the least reliable app I use regularly
[14:16] <dooglus_> Diverdude: what's the problem?
[14:16] <queso> MASARUwota: is that easy to set up?
[14:16] <tiger__> how can I configure the wireless connection
[14:17] <MASARUwota> queso: you install a server, run it. you run a client and type in the server hostname and a pass.
[14:17] <meowsus> tiger__: Thats a pretty broad question.
[14:17] <tiger__> what is the ssid and Bssid   and mac address
[14:17] <MASARUwota> !wifi|tiger__
[14:17] <Diverdude> dooglus_, well, in the beginning i had big problems making the mic function properly....Then suddently it started to work like magic, but when I make a call the response on the call is extremely laggy...I have tried calling the same person in ubuntu, then rebooting in windows vista, calling the same person again and then it was just fine
[14:17] <meowsus> MASARUwota: good call ;)
[14:17] <MASARUwota> meowsus:=)
[14:17] <queso> MASARUwota: is that what the remote desktop is under System > Preferences? (jaunty)
[14:18] <vandrar> hej
[14:18] <MASARUwota> queso: uuhmm maybe :/
[14:18] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I don't have lag with skype on ubuntu, thought the mic does sometimes seem a little random whether it works or not
[14:18] <MASARUwota> queso: it does a similar thing, yes
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> The gnome desktop remote desktop feature - can use the vnc 'protocall' yes. :)
[14:18] <queso> MASARUwota: okay, thank you.
[14:18] <dooglus_> Diverdude: in a terminal, run 'top' to see what's keeping your computer busy.  is it flat out doing stuff when you see lag?
[14:18] <queso> Dr_Willis: thanks
[14:19] <Diverdude> dooglus_, hmm i dont really have a person to call on skype right now...but i will test it later then...checking top to see what lags
[14:20] <meowsus> Holy shit. I was just in my Abbey Road folder on my computer and the album started playing without me putting it into a player.
[14:20] <dooglus_> Diverdude: call me if you like
[14:20] <Diverdude> dooglus_, but it was the response...the other person said something and it took like 20 seconds before it arrived and vice versa
[14:20] <meowsus> DIDN'T REALIZE UBUNTU PREVIEWS IT WHEN YOUR MOUSE IS ON A SONG
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> meowsus:  mouse over audio - preview
[14:20] <dooglus_> Diverdude: 'dooglus' @skype
[14:20] <meowsus> Scared the shit out of me
[14:20] <meowsus> Haha
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> meowsus:  thats a gnome feature. :)
[14:20] <meowsus> Dr_Willis: Well, sir, it's awesome
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> meowsus:  it can be annoying
[14:20] <tiger__> A  big  issue  for install the wireless
[14:21] <meowsus> Dr_Willis: I can see it
[14:21] <dsnyders> meowsus, It previews video as well.  BTW, family chat here. Keep an eye on the language
[14:21] <padi999> Hey, how can I syncronize google-calendar with kontact?
[14:21] <meowsus> dsnyders: 10-4
[14:21] <luist> how can i add --color to all my ls commands?
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> luist:  make an alies
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> alies
[14:21] <kinja-sheep> luist: Edit ~/.bashrc
[14:21] <luist> Dr_Willis: how?
[14:21] <dooglus_> luist: alias ls='ls --color'
[14:21] <dooglus_> luist: in .bashrc
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> i thougjh the ls  alias is the default anyway
[14:21] <conflix> good morning everyone
[14:22] <meowsus> conflix: good morning!
[14:22] <MASARUwota> !hi|conflix
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> willis@cow:~$ alias
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[14:22] <dsnyders> meowsus, No worries.  Yeah, that preview caught me by surprise when I first came across it as well.
[14:22] <meowsus> Heh
[14:23] <luist> how do i apply the changes to .bashrc?
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc is ran  when a shell gets started
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> luist:  you could od a 'source .bashrc' to reread it
[14:23] <llutz> luist: nano ~/.bashrc, edit, save, done
[14:23] <dsnyders> luist, I think you just edit it.
[14:23] <IdleOne> start new terminal
[14:24] <chilli0> HI
[14:27] <creative83> Anybody knows how to speed up /dev/random ? I tried generating tcp traffic and disk I/O but /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail stays at a really low value...
[14:27] <Trezker> Help! VLC crashes when I try to load a video
[14:28] <ionut> does anyone knows for ubuntu an application that helps me to draw (automatically like derive ) functions , find limits etc in math ?
[14:28] <jrib> ionut: sage, maxima
[14:28] <Trezker> still loads ogg fine, but avi = crash
[14:28] <ionut> jrib:  thx
[14:28] <MASARUwota> Trezker: 1. install codecs 2. install a good movie player like smplayer
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Hmm ive rarely had vlc crash.
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> Trezker:  run from terminal, look for error messages
[14:29] <Trezker> video has worked before, I haven't changed anything
[14:29] <Trezker> [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 133.19 failed with error code 8:
[14:29] <Trezker>  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[14:29] <MASARUwota> Trezker: thats weird
[14:30] <karma_police> !ping
[14:30] <Diverdude> dooglus_, just downloading now
[14:31] <mkanyicy> Trezker, sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Trezker:  try some different video outs perhaps.
[14:31] <Trezker> Package w32codecs is not available
[14:32] <shajen> hi, how can I install gtk.h to codeblock?
[14:32] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I found a repo with it in - I'll see if I can get that working
[14:33] <Trezker> Dr_Willis, thanks Opengl output works!
[14:33] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ahh thats sweet. So that will then take care of automatic updating if it works?
[14:33] <faileas> Trezker: w32codecs is in medibuntu
[14:33] <mkanyicy> Trezker, enable medibuntu repositories using instructions from http://medibuntu.org
[14:34] <luist> what package provides git-cvsimport?
[14:34] <jrib> luist: use packages.ubuntu.com to find out
[14:35] <Diverdude> dooglus_, is it possible to see if anexisting installation was done from a package or from a repo?
[14:35] <Diverdude> dooglus_, anexisting = an existing
[14:35] <dregin> hey. How do I enable dynamic port forwarding in openssh-server?
[14:36] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I don't know
[14:36] <mkanyicy> dregin, man ssh
[14:36] <dregin> I did
[14:36] <luist> it says the command comes in git-cvs but i installed this package and i dont have this command... says not found
[14:37] <dooglus_> Diverdude: this page http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=29679 talks about an official skype repo, but it's not working for me yer
[14:37] <dooglus_> yet*
[14:37] <edeca> dregin: You shouldn't need to enable it, it should just work
[14:37] <jrib> luist: does the full path work?
[14:37] <edeca> dregin: The client requests the forwarding
[14:37] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I've managed to mount my new HTC Hero phone, but the moment I do, gnome-panel locks up...any suggestions?
[14:38] <dregin> some servers require it enabled in their config. Couldn't find anything in ssh_config. Not working for me, though. Most probably something client side so. Thanks anyway.
[14:38] <ryan__> ffd
[14:38] <Diverdude> dooglus_, okay, what error are you getting?
[14:41] <davide_> buongiorno
[14:41] <Sorhan> ok ... one more hopefully simple question, looking for a program similar to Visual Logic
[14:41] <dooglus_> Diverdude: no error now - just can't find the public key for skype's packages
[14:42] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ohh i see...hmm i don't really know where it is good to search for it
[14:43] <Pici> Sorhan: What does Visual Logic do?
[14:43] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I told it to ignore the lack of a key - and now it's downloading version Get: 1 http://download.skype.com stable/non-free skype 2.0.0.72-1 [15.5MB] from the repo
[14:43] <dooglus_> that's the older version that you had...
[14:43] <dooglus_> so I guess the repo is out of date!
[14:43] <Markive> Hi All, Does anyone know what program I need to convert an mpeg made in kino to avi please?
[14:44] <Sorhan> Pici, it's a very simple programming tool ... usually for very early programming, more like a flow chart
[14:44] <Diverdude> dooglus_, i see...wasn't that the version i have atm?
[14:45] <tobylane|lunch> how can i make a grub iso in ubuntu
[14:45] <dooglus_> Diverdude: it was
[14:45] <tobylane> i think someone highlighted me and i missed it?
[14:45] <Pici> Sorhan: Maybe something like gambas?
[14:45] <dooglus_> Diverdude: http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/skype-installation/ shows two methods, but I'm finding the skype method is old and the mediabuntu method doesn't work
[14:45] <Diverdude> dooglus_, i tried to run the package i downloaded, and I am getting: "An older version is available in a software channel. Generally you are recommended to install the version from the software channel, since it is usually better supported"
[14:46] <Sorhan> Pici, don't know lemme check it
[14:46] <dooglus_> Diverdude: do going to http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/linux/choose/ and downloading manually is the best I think
[14:46] <Pici> Sorhan: The package name is gambas2
[14:46] <Diverdude> dooglus_, yeah, thats what i did
[14:46] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I didn't get that.  perhaps you already have the skype repo added
[14:47] <bluelephant2> Hi all, can anyone recommend a current guide for help with pulseaudio on a new laptop?
[14:47] <moljac024> hey people, i need help on downgrading the kernel...I installed ubuntu 9.10 to a friend's netbook and since the kernel update to .31 wireless no longer works....what would be the easiest way to downgrade? I downloaded some packages off the web but they bitch about dependecies...It would really be a hassle to reinstall only because of this...
[14:47] <Diverdude> dooglus_, that might very well be...i don't really remember how I installed skype back in the days you see...so it might be a repo
[14:47] <JohnG> ho guys could you tell me where i can find the source code off any project i might want?
[14:47] <Sorhan> Pici, found it, just dl'ing to check out looks more like a BASIC programming environ, but might work
[14:47] <Diverdude> dooglus_, but if so...there is no updates to it anyway since i already checked the update manager
[14:48] <tobylane> johng their official website
[14:48] <moljac024> JohnG: sourceforge?
[14:48] <tobylane> or the source repositories of ubuntu
[14:48] <dooglus_> Diverdude: try:   grep -r skype /etc/apt/sources.list*
[14:48] <faileas> JohnG: depends on the app. there's no uniform way of doing it
[14:48] <JohnG> thank you
[14:48] <dooglus_> Diverdude: to find out if you have skype mentioned in your repo lists
[14:49] <faileas> moljac024: just install the older kernel, and edit grub, i suppose.
[14:49] <dooglus_> Diverdude: the skype repo has 2.0, but their download page has 2.1
[14:49] <spacitymedic> Hey, on my kubuntu os i accidentally deleted the icon athat had the volume thing, and the wifi log on icon
[14:49] <tobylane> how can i make a grub iso in ubuntu?
[14:49] <JohnG> faileas: i would like to see at first a list of the applications ""a link would be welcomed"
[14:49] <Diverdude> dooglus_, this is returned:
[14:49] <Diverdude> /etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[14:49] <Diverdude> /etc/apt/sources.list~:deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[14:49] <moljac024> faileas: how do i install the older kernel? where can i find the package? as i said, the ones i found bitch about missing dependecies (the headers packages)
[14:50] <faileas> spacitymedic: there's a kubuntu channe;. ask there. volume is an app - kmix. wifi icon .. is knetworkmessenger - run both
[14:50] <reyad> hi all
[14:50] <faileas> moljac024: unless you need to compile stuff, headers isn't essential
[14:50] <Markive> anyone know how to convert/re encode mpeg to avi please
[14:50] <spacitymedic> how do I run them?
[14:50] <Diverdude> dooglus_, so it seems it is in the repo list already
[14:50] <Sorhan> Pici, not quite what i'm looking for ... Visual Logic is almost more like writing pseudocode than an actual language ... might just have to try to find a free version and attempt to run under wine
[14:50] <faileas> spacitymedic: your menu. its knetworkmanager and kmix there
[14:50] <reyad> hi all some one help me im from palestine :_P
[14:51] <tweakt> does ubuntu use 'debian-cd' for building official install CDs? I'm trying to recreate the process as closely as possible (not just customize an existing CD)
[14:51] <faileas> moljac024: you can prolly get it from the same place you got the kernel
[14:51] <Diverdude> dooglus_, yes...i tried opening the sources.list in gedit, and i remember i pasted that in now
[14:51] <faileas> reyad: sorry, we don't do relocations
[14:51] <Diverdude> dooglus_, deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[14:52] <Gnea> reyad: we're a help channel for ubuntu
[14:52] <Diverdude> dooglus_, found it in some forum i think
[14:52] <Sorhan> also ... is there a way to make Ubuntu automatically connect to specific wifi networks?
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[14:52] <FloodBot3> passinger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <tweakt> Sorhan: network-manager does that
[14:52] <passinger> sorry
[14:52] <reyad> im sorry
[14:52] <Sorhan> tweakt, how to access?
[14:53] <tweakt> Sorhan: Ubuntu desktop system? You should have an icon on the upper right
[14:53] <Sorhan> yeah ... found the setting, didn't have the check box right off to auto-connect
[14:54] <Gnea> !ask | reyad
[14:54] <bluelephant2> pardon the repeat: my internal mic doesn't appear in pulseaudio manager. I'm not sure how to configure new sound devices in pulseaudio. Suggestions?
[14:54] <dooglus_> Diverdude: I only ever installed by downloading manually it seems
[14:54] <dooglus_> (until now)
[14:55] <moljac024> faileas: so how do i edit grub? /etc/defaults/grub ? What points to what kernel
[14:55] <Diverdude> dooglus_, but this repo i have added seems out of date  then..
[14:55] <moljac024> faileas: sorry for being such a pain in the ass :)
[14:55] <jeffjeffdejeff> i think i may have deleted my Desktop folder, so I created a new one.  When I do command ls from the terminal when i'm in my new Desktop folder, it comes back with nothing, but when I do a "locate" command for a file i know was in my old Desktop folder, it comes back saying that the file exists on the desktop.  how do i access the files that the terminal says still exist, but which do not show up anymore?
[14:55] <nubee> i cant get java to download correctly to open some crossword puzzles
[14:55] <faileas> moljac024: on karmic its grub.cfg i think. its just so you get the 'right' kernel
[14:56] <tobylane> the recycle bin?
[14:56] <tobylane> how can i make a grub iso in ubuntu?
[14:56] <dooglus_> Diverdude: indeed
[14:56] <Diverdude> dooglus_, im trying to install the manual package now
[14:56] <faileas> tobylane: what's a grub iso supposed to do?
[14:56] <tobylane> boot usbs from bioses that cant
[14:56] <Diverdude> dooglus_, which you kindly guided me to
[14:57] <Kartagis> does anyone have an idea why burning an iso file over the network takes forever?
[14:57] <archangel2> hi
[14:57] <Kartagis> and it hasn't even started to burn, it's still in preparation
[14:58] <karncool> hi all
[14:58] <MASARUwota> !hi|karncool
[14:58] <VCoolio> moljac024: edit '/etc/default/grub' then 'sudo update-grub' and done
[14:58] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:58] <kalashnikov> Kartagis: your network to slow. lol
[14:58] <karncool> I am new ubuntu user
[14:59] <MASARUwota> !ask|karncool
[14:59] <tweakt> How does Ubuntu build install CDs, I'm looking for the process used by Ubuntu devs to build official CDs.
[14:59] <karncool> ok
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !kernel | tweakt
[15:02] <garymc> Help, how do i resett my phpmyadmin user and password. I forgto them
[15:03] <tweakt> BluesKaj: not what I was asking
[15:03] <jeffjeffdejeff> i think i may have deleted my Desktop folder, so I created a new one.  When I do command ls from the terminal when i'm in my new Desktop folder, it comes back with nothing, but when I do a "locate" command for a file i know was in my old Desktop folder, it comes back saying that the file exists on the desktop.  how do i access the files that the terminal says still exist, but which do not show up anymore?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> then you burn your compiled kernel to a bootable cd
[15:04] <CyberClone> hallo leute kann mir jemand mit ubuntu helfen
[15:04] <Pici> !de | CyberClone
[15:04] <_ruben> jeffjeffdejeff: locate is telling you old info
[15:04] <CyberClone> can anyone help me with ubuntu
[15:04] <jeffjeffdejeff> _ruben: how come?  this is after a reboot too.
[15:05] <CyberClone> can anyone help me with ubuntu ???
[15:05] <_ruben> jeffjeffdejeff: locate's database gets updated at night by default
[15:05] <MASARUwota> !ask|CyberClone
[15:05] <Markive> Anyone..... how do I convert a mpeg made in kino to an AVI?
[15:05] <CyberClone> ok thanks^^
[15:05] <jeffjeffdejeff> _ruben: that's handy to know.  thanks very much.  is there a (simple)  manual way of updating it?
[15:05] <arunbabu> how to run shel script each time firefox is reloaded???
[15:06] <tweakt> BluesKaj: not asking about bootable CD or customizing kernel. I'm seeking the build process used to take a set of seeds (which I've generated using germinate) and produce an ubuntu install CD (such as the -server or -alternate variety)
[15:06] <_ruben> jeffjeffdejeff: sudo updatedb
[15:06] <CyberClone> kann i ask it on german ???
[15:06] <CyberClone> can*
[15:06] <tweakt> BluesKaj: specifically install CD, not live CD. And I don't simply want to customize an existing ISO, I want to build from scratch so I can produce a minimal sized CD for whats needed
[15:06] <Pici> CyberClone: If you /join #ubuntu-de   you can
[15:07] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: updatedb takes a while to run.  if you "locate -e file..." then it will only locate files which still exist
[15:07] <BluesKaj> tweakt, perhaps the #ubuntu-devel is the place to ask
[15:07] <tweakt> BluesKaj: thanks!
[15:07] <CyberClone> ok thanks byby
[15:08] <jeffjeffdejeff> _ruben: thanks.  this all came about because i'm having trouble getting flash to work on 9.04 64-bit.  still a pain in the backside.  seems to work for a little while, then firefox suddenly decides not to like youtube videos etc again.  got any suggestions for that one? :)
[15:08] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: I had the same problem.  the solution I found was switching to a 32 bit kernel
[15:08] <jeffjeffdejeff> :)
[15:09] <jeffjeffdejeff> did updatedb and it's still showing the old information
[15:09] <karncool>   hi,how can I start the keyboard  numlock when ubuntu start
[15:09] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: package 'linux-image-generic-pae' lets the 32 bit kernel access all 4GB of RAM
[15:09] <MASARUwota> karncool: press numlock during boot. lol.
[15:09] <karncool> any other way
[15:09] <Markive> anyone know where the HELP channel is?
[15:09] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: sudo /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate
[15:10] <Pici> Markive: For Ubuntu?
[15:10] <MASARUwota> karncool: get a normal password without that many numbers in it :/
[15:10] <jeffjeffdejeff> dooglus_: i heard about that. really want to run 64bit version though. :s
[15:10] <Markive> yup
[15:10] <Pici> Markive: you're already here
[15:10] <Markive> ohh
[15:10] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: I really wanted to too, but 1) flash broke intermittantly and 2) ndiswrapper never worked at all
[15:10] <aletheia84> how do i permanently add a screen resolution setting that ubuntu 9.10 doesn't detect?
[15:10] <Markive> pici thanks
[15:11] <jrib> !fixres | aletheia84
[15:11] <dooglus_> Markive: I think #help redirects to #freenode
[15:11] <jeffjeffdejeff> i'm such a numpty.  i didn't delete my desktop folder - i moved it to /.mozilla/plugins.
[15:11] <jeffjeffdejeff> (makes stupid face)
[15:11] <aletheia84> jrib what does !fixres do?
[15:11] <jeffjeffdejeff> what is ndiswrapper?
[15:11] <Markive> i'm trying to convert an mpeg to an avi...
[15:11] <dag_> jeffjeffdejeff: i run ubuntu 9.10 64bits and no problem with flash ,do you use the non-free package?
[15:12] <jrib> aletheia84: tells ubottu to give you information
[15:12] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: it allows you to run the windows version of your wireless driver in ubuntu.  I find the open source version doesn't work for my card
[15:12] <dooglus_> !ndiswrapper
[15:12] <aletheia84> !fixres
[15:12] <jeffjeffdejeff> dooglus_: i'm ethernet connected anyways.
[15:12] <mediaprodigy> which ubuntu version is better 32 or 64bits
[15:12] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: ethernet works for me in 64bit
[15:12] <Pici> aletheia84: Please see the message that ubottu said after you used the trigger
[15:12] <jrib> mediaprodigy: how much ram do you have?
[15:12] <mediaprodigy> 1 gig
[15:12] <sprabv> hello
[15:12] <DracoWork> Im having problems with virtualbox ose dropping keystrokes, can anyone help?
[15:12] <jrib> mediaprodigy: you don't need 64bit then, 64bit just lets you use 4+ gb of ram
[15:13] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: I've seen some people report that flash works fine in 64bit, out the box.  idk why it didn't for me
[15:13] <jeffjeffdejeff> dag_: i've tried so many different ways of getting flash to work, i've lost track of what i've tried and not tried.
[15:13] <aletheia84> I'm sorry but i've looked at that page before and i'm no smart enough to understand anything in there
[15:13] <mediaprodigy> jrib: i c thanks
[15:13] <tawd> would it count as ram if you have over 4 gigs including SWAP space?
[15:13] <jeffjeffdejeff> dag_: i'm running 9.04 though.
[15:13] <vinnie_> how can i remove every file in my home directory that has to do with kde?
[15:13] <dooglus_> jeffjeffdejeff: I ended up installing 64 and 32 bit ubuntu's dual boot
[15:13] <llutz> tawd: swap != ram
[15:13] <dooglus_> and ended up never using the 64 bit one, due to its problems
[15:13] <petsounds> Markive, winFF
[15:13] <dooglus_> uninstalled it yesterday to make space for data
[15:14] <jeffjeffdejeff> tis a shame that they can't just make it work.
[15:14] <tawd> llutz ok lol
[15:14] <sprabv> im using jaunty and try to enable net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established but got error: "net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established" is an unknown key when i do sysctl -p
[15:14] <sprabv> please help
[15:14] <sprabv> urgent help :(
[15:14] <jeffjeffdejeff> sprabv - oh it's always urgent :)
[15:14] <Markive> petsounds Thanks i'll try it
[15:15] <sprabv> anybody can help me?
[15:15] <acicula> just ask sprabv
[15:15] <tawd> he did
[15:15] <acicula> oh must've missed that then
[15:15] <sprabv> i did ask
[15:15] <sprabv> acicula: can u help me? which package should be installed?
[15:16] <jrib> sprabv: please ask and be patient, no need to flood the channel with "help me" afterwards
[15:16] <acicula> sprabv: i havent seen the question
[15:16] <tawd> acicula im using jaunty and try to enable net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established but got error: "net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established" is an unknown key when i do sysctl -p
[15:16] <karncool> can the numlock  auto start whit ubunut system like windows
[15:16] <tawd> that's the question
[15:16] <jrib> karncool: yes
[15:16] <acicula> tawd: err sysctl values are listed somewhere
[15:17] <karncool> how  can i do
[15:17] <acicula> evidentily you are using a key that doesnt exist, try google to check for a misspelling?
[15:17] <tawd> acicula lol  link that to sprabv
[15:17] <karncool> ok  thank
[15:17] <jhone> islamabad
[15:17] <jrib> karncool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[15:17] <sprabv> acicula: i have googling
[15:18] <sprabv> it is not misspelling
[15:18] <jhone> hi to tamam gandus
[15:18] <recmajkemi> Can i  change the size of  my ubuntu partition?
[15:19] <gandhijee> hi
[15:19] <acicula> sprabv: its a compile option in the kernel it seems wether it exists or not, you can check sysctl values by entering sysctl -a
[15:20] <gandhijee> how would i enter the equivalent of runlevel 3 in ubuntu ?
[15:20] <tawd> i would also like to know if there is an easy way to give my /home/user partition more space from my windows partition
[15:20] <ikonia> gandhijee: your already in it by default
[15:20] <jrib> gandhijee: why?
[15:21] <gandhijee> i want to boot with out the GUI
[15:21] <jrib> gandhijee: why?
[15:21] <sprabv> got the answer, need to load iptable_nat
[15:21] <sprabv> :)
[15:21] <dooglus_> tawd: gparted can resize partitions, including windows ones.  it's recommended you back up first though
[15:21]  * jrib really wishes people would just ask their real question
[15:21] <acicula> sprabv: ah that makes sense
[15:21] <gandhijee> because i have no need for the GUI, i have my own UI that i wrote that i would like to load instead
[15:21] <dooglus_> jrib: can I ask you something?
[15:21] <jrib> dooglus_: heh
[15:21] <ikonia> gandhijee: need to disable gdm/X with update-rd.d
[15:21] <tawd> dooglus_ of course, but thanks!
[15:22] <jrib> gandhijee: you don't want to load X at all?
[15:22] <ikonia> gandhijee: runlevel 2 is the default in ubuntu, but thanks to upstart it doesn't work the same as sysV init any more
[15:22] <mocas> hi there
[15:22] <gandhijee> yeah i kinda found that out when i booted and i said i was at runlevel 2
[15:22] <gandhijee> so just remove it using update-rc.d and its all set?
[15:22] <tawd> recmajkemi yes, use gparted to resize the partitions, but backup all important information first
[15:23] <mocas> I use uid and gid on fstab to mount a cifs and it work fine, but how I set the mod? I whould like to set 660 when create files, that it's possible?
[15:23] <tawd> !gparted | tawd recmajkemi
[15:24] <dajohn> Hi All , why : grep -r "text" *.php  searches only in current dir ? ?
[15:24] <tawd> dajohn #bash can help
[15:24] <fogobogo> dajohn: because -r is for regex methinks
[15:25] <jrib> dajohn: because *.php expands to files that end in .php in the current directory
[15:25] <fogobogo> dajohn: scratch that. my bad
[15:25] <acicula> no man page says its for recusivity
[15:25] <Kartagis> I copied the ISO file to ~, but it still takes forever to burn. any ideas?
[15:25] <jrib> dajohn: just do: grep text **/*.php
[15:25] <Kartagis> it's okay if I reboot
[15:26] <dajohn> jrib: thanks you are a genious rabbi !!
[15:27] <nruzinda> msg [DB-FR]-XDCC-Naruto XDCC send #106
[15:28] <acicula> nruzinda: report in #freenode
[15:28] <SpoZen> Do i have to use a pipe if i would like this?: find . -links +1 "or" -type l
[15:29] <jrib> SpoZen: search « man find » for "-or"
[15:29] <arthur__> i have opensuse and hate it, but also have a partition for backup, now if i use gparted to delete all part. except backup one, can i install without losing that data?
[15:30] <seanj> Hi. Is there any way to do a wubi install without getting stuck in a grub prompt?
[15:30] <acicula> arthur__: well changing partition tables is always a bit risky, backing up is always a good idea
[15:30] <giamba> ciao a tutti
[15:30] <giamba> !lista
[15:31] <acicula> arthur__: but yeah in principle you can modify other partitions and leave one partition untouched
[15:31] <arthur__> well its over 80Gig of backup data, hence the partition...will ubuntu leave that one alone if i make room by deleting opensuse partition?
[15:31] <arthur__> ok thats ok then
[15:32] <acicula> arthur__: well you may have to sort out partitioning manually but yeah it should leave it alone
[15:32] <Diverdude> what tool do you recommend to burn iso images from ubuntu?
[15:32] <seanj> guess not. thanks anyway.
[15:33] <gschwepp> someone got experience with vncserver/tightvncserver? My problem is, that by autostart my startup config is ignored.
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[15:34] <booh> !VNC | gschwepp
[15:34] <Diverdude> dag_, can it also be used for DVD's ?
[15:34] <booh> gschwepp: i would highly recommend FreeNX over any VNC.
[15:34] <booh> !FreeNX | gschwepp
[15:35] <dag_> Diverdude> yes you can burn dvd iso too
[15:36] <gschwepp> booh: ubottu: i got it running i got no problem with vnc at all it is just the case if i start it manually it works fine. got my fluxbox and all running in case i start it over /etc/init.d/vncserver script while booting it doesnt work.
[15:36] <Diverdude> dag_, blueray?
[15:37] <dag_> diverdude: never try, i dont know
[15:37] <NET||abuse> hey guys. .what sip client would you recomend for karmic?
[15:37] <om26er_> ekiga?
[15:37] <sirblargh> gschwepp, do you have entries in /etc/rcN.d etc for it to be starting on power up?
[15:37] <NET||abuse> i'm trying the empathy builtin sip support, but i can't seem to make or answer calls, it doesn't connect proerly.
[15:37] <NET||abuse> properly.
[15:38] <Diverdude> dag_, kb3 sounds perfect...ill try it
[15:38] <gschwepp> sirblargh: yes it is starting! just with the wrong config ... or at all no config
[15:38] <macman_> i want to combine to mpeg files together to make 1 mpeg then use dvdauthor to make a dvd out of them 1 one menu ? to merge them do i just cat 1.mpg 2.mpg > file.mpg ? or is there a way to use dvdauthor to create a menu for them both
[15:39] <gschwepp> sirblargh: if i run my scriptcommand manually it works as i want it to work.
[15:39] <gschwepp> sirblargh: just the ***** autostart doesnt work and i dont know why
[15:40] <sirblargh> gschwepp: maybe this is a hack, but have you tried throwing your script command into /etc/rc.local?
[15:40] <gschwepp> http://pastebin.com/d2973ba4d here my bootscript i changed home and user
[15:40] <le0_> what is the correct locale entry to make LATIN1 available (to postgresq)l? "de_DE ISO-8859-1" seems to use LATIN9 instead
[15:41] <Diverdude> now that I have installed a lot of stuff and customized a lot of things in ubuntu 9.10 it seems to be working very well indeed. I have a worry however...in some months a new ubuntu will be released, and i need to install ubuntu all over(last time i just did an update and it went horrible until i reinstalled completely) Is there a way to save a list of all installed programs and customizations, so that I may just reinstall a new ubuntu an
[15:41] <Diverdude> d roll all my programs on easily?
[15:41] <yq> What's the latest kernel on Karmic?
[15:41] <yq> In the official packages?
[15:42] <Pici> !info linux | yq
[15:42] <yq> Thanks
[15:42] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, you have do upgrade from your existing installation, i don't think you can easily 'roll' on you apps easily, that is bound to get you even in more serious troubles
[15:43] <gschwepp> sirblargh: any ideas ?
[15:43] <gschwepp> sirblargh: at all i changed /usr/bin/vncserver to /usr/bin/tightvncserver
[15:43] <dooglus_> Diverdude: try updating. it usually works
[15:43] <gschwepp> but that should not be the problem
[15:44] <sirblargh> gschwepp: well since you say that executing your script manually works, I guess I'd just try throwing that into /etc/rc.local since effectively that will manually call your script at the end of the boot process
[15:44] <Diverdude> dooglus_, yes i should try that of course...last time the wifi went out though...and was impossible to return to life until i reinstalled 9.10 from scratch
[15:44] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[15:44] <gschwepp> grr it try to thx sirblargh .. .
[15:45] <sirblargh> gschwepp: but no, just looking at the script that you pasted, I don't notice anything obvious
[15:45] <ruby_on_tails> is there an code editor for ubuntu with snippets features ?
[15:45] <mkanyicy> gschwepp, what do you want to do?
[15:45] <ruby_on_tails> like textmate for mac has
[15:45] <dooglus_> Diverdude: use 'dpkg -l' to get a package list,
[15:45] <ruby_on_tails> or etexteditor for windows has
[15:45] <dooglus_> keep /home on a separate partition
[15:45] <syockit> is there a disk monitoring utility similar to Windows' Diskmon (By Sysinternals)? inotify seems close but seeing it needs to create watch for every file/dir, it seems cumbersome
[15:46] <Diverdude> dooglus_, ahh nice...
[15:46] <Diverdude> any ideas on when a new ubuntu will be released?
[15:46] <Gnea> Diverdude: 04/10
[15:46] <mcspa> question, default ubuntu installation does not install a firewall does it?
[15:47] <Pici> !firewall | mcspa
[15:47] <Gnea> Diverdude: always on the 4th and 10th months
[15:47] <sirblargh> mcspa: a firewall is installed (iptables / ufw) but is not enabled
[15:47] <Diverdude> okay, so there is always a release on 04 and 10
[15:47] <Diverdude> nice
[15:47] <Diverdude> why these months?
[15:47] <c3101> syockit, inotify is all there is i think
[15:47] <mkanyicy> ruby_on_tails, snippets features? whats that?
[15:47] <mcspa> sirblargh thanks
[15:47] <dooglus_> mcspa: the kernel has a firewall built in, but no tool to configure it easily comes as standard and the firewall is all open by default
[15:47] <dag_> 04 10 is available for test on the ubuntu studio home page
[15:48] <mcspa> and should I be able to ssh to my ubuntu installation by default?
[15:48] <Pici> Diverdude: There is a release every 6 months, it just happens to fall in April and October
[15:48] <Pici> !lucid
[15:48] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, why not those months/
[15:48] <dooglus_> mcspa: not until you install openssh-server
[15:48] <mcspa> k  thanks
[15:48] <Doonz> how can i see what users exist on my system.. must be done through terminal
[15:49] <dooglus_> mcspa: I think the idea is that it's safe to not have ssh installed than to have it installd and firewalled
[15:49] <dooglus_> safer*, installed*, etc.
[15:49] <dooglus_> Doonz: cat /etc/passwd
[15:49] <wowoto> Doonz: who
[15:50] <syockit> ruby_on_tails: hmm if I'm not mistaken, gedit has it. probably as plugin.
[15:50] <laurentle> Hi everybody ! I would like to redirect the notifications from notify-osd to a Text To Speach (TTS) software. Do you think I should intercept the flow from a Dbus channel ?
[15:50] <mkanyicy> Doonz, wowoto, does NOT show users that not logged on
[15:50] <danny_>  hello, anyone here?
[15:50] <syockit> ruby_on_tails: a relatively new program would be Redcar
[15:50] <mkanyicy> Doonz, wowoto, "who" does NOT show users that not logged on
[15:51] <danny_> having problem with an ati card, installer won't work
[15:51] <danny_> hello???
[15:51] <Pici> !doesntwork | danny_
[15:51] <laurentle> Hi danny, do you know what is your ATI card type ?
[15:51] <natewiebe13> I'm on 9.10 64-bit and every so often, my pc will totally freeze except for the mouse. You can move the mouse wherever, but i am unable to select anything, or use the keyboard.. even tried CTRL+ALT+F1 (F2, F3, etc) and nothing happens. i7 940, 9GB ram
[15:52] <ruby_on_tails> syockit: reading about snippets configuring on gedit
[15:52] <natewiebe13> and i have to manually power off
[15:52] <danny_> okay, I'm on 9.10, UE, have an ati 9550 which second life is not accepting
[15:52] <ruby_on_tails> mkanyicy: shortcut for large chunks of frequently used code pieces
[15:52] <dag_> does anyone knows where i can find good quality strange sounds in the ubuntu big family?
[15:52] <danny_> went to ati site to download driver update, but installer will not work
[15:53] <dag_> danny: did you try envy ng?
[15:54] <natewiebe13> is there a system log that would show the last thing that happened before it froze?
[15:54] <ruby_on_tails> syockit: hmm works
[15:54] <danny_> dag: where would I find envy ng?
[15:54] <danny_> this is ultimate edition 2.5, btw
[15:54] <klown> anyone in here use a g15 keyboard?
[15:55] <klown> (not a poll, a unnecessary question, if noone does"
[15:55] <ruby_on_tails> oh there are more gedit plugins
[15:55] <ruby_on_tails> wow
[15:55] <AndrewMohawk> hi, i'd like to have a much higher quality boot image than grub can provide (640x480x16 colours), what would be recommended?
[15:55] <ruby_on_tails> I am blessed
[15:55] <dag_> danny : from synaptic this will drive ati or nvidia cards downloading and installing drivers
[15:55] <natewiebe13> anyone know why ubuntu would freeze except for the mouse?
[15:56] <danny_> is inside synaptic?
[15:56] <danny_> what category is it under? accessories?
[15:56] <laurentle> danny, did you tried to install to install pilots through menu : sytem-adminisatration-Pilot
[15:57] <phpmonk> i want to force check file system at next boot, how to do it?
[15:58] <oal> How do I install a network manager without having an internet connection? What debs do I need?
[15:58] <Zorael> Is a crash dump from a crashed app any different than running it through gdb with debugging symbols installed and fetching the backtrace from there?
[15:58] <oal> I can download debs on another pc and transfer them with an usb stick, but I don't knnow what I need
[15:58] <danny_> dag: do I want envyng-core or envyng-qt?
[15:59] <gschwepp> Anyone got experience with tightvncserver autostart with ubuntu ?
[15:59] <natewiebe13> phpmonk: in terminal: sudo shutdown -rF now
[15:59] <laurentle> oal : you need a package named network manager
[16:00] <llutz> natewiebe13: "shutdown -F"won't work in *buntu
[16:00] <laurentle> oal : sorry : network-manager
[16:00] <oal> laurentle: Yes, but what about the dependencies?
[16:00] <phpmonk> natewiebe13, cool, i will do it now
[16:00] <dag_> danny: click anywhere in synaptic list and start writing envy then you can see envy-core envy-gtk ... or go to ubuntu site read doc for install directly from repository
[16:00] <natewiebe13> phpmonk: i guess it doesnt work
[16:00] <mkanyicy> phpmonk, you want to force hdd checks on reboot?
[16:00] <phpmonk> oh then what to do
[16:01] <phpmonk> mkanyicy, yes
[16:01] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD"
[16:01] <mkanyicy> phpmonk, then "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[16:01] <stew> oal: perhaps use "apt-get --simulate install network-manager" to see what packages it would install;  there is a "apt-zip" package which helps with this sort of thing as well
[16:01] <Doonz> hey guys im trying to get it so that i dont have to enter a password when im running an rsync command between 2 computers. i mad an id.rsa.pub file on the source computer. then copied that to the destination computer, i then added it to the authorized key file but when i run the command on the source computer it prompts me for the user password
[16:01] <dag_> danny: igive you that but it's in french http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/envy
[16:01] <_dreamy_> how do i start the tftp-dhpa deamon ? ive tryed everything..
[16:02] <oal> stew: this machine is 64bit, but I'm going to install it to a 32bit pc, will that be an issue?
[16:02] <ionut> Doonz:  in what directory you put it ?  (is .ssh ? )
[16:02] <_dreamy_> *tftp-hpa
[16:02] <mkanyicy> phpmonk, after doing that, partitions will be checked on next reboot
[16:02] <Doonz> ionut: yes
[16:02] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD"
[16:03] <ionut> Doonz: what application do you use (to do the sync )?
[16:03] <mkanyicy> phpmonk, to bypass routine (non-error) checks on the next reboot do "sudo touch /fastboot"
[16:03] <Doonz> ionut: rsync
[16:03] <pete_> how do I drag a window farther than the screen allows????
[16:03] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me how to install crisper sharper cleaner fonts. I have install restricted extras and msfonts but isnt there more stuff with regards to this stuff? Is it only in edubuntu?
[16:03] <ionut> Doonz: you should have into your computer the private key and use it (give it to your applcation)  so it will never ask u for the password
[16:04] <mkanyicy> pete_, you mean drag or resize?
[16:04] <Doonz> ionut: pardon?
[16:04] <pete_> mkanyicy, im using remte desktop, and cant get to all buttons on a window
[16:05] <danny_> dag: ran program, said install archives failed
[16:05] <natewiebe131> phpmonk: in terminal : sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:05] <natewiebe131> the reboot
[16:05] <natewiebe131> i just tried it and it worked
[16:05] <mkanyicy> pete_, go to full screen mode
[16:05] <pete_> mkanyicy, how?
[16:06] <NET||abuse> yeh, so ekiga and empathy sip have both not worked for me yet,, ekiga just doesn't seem to connect, in empathy i get the incoming call notice, but if i answer there's no sound, also outgoing calls don't seem to ring
[16:06] <ionut> Doonz:  when you generated the public key (in your case id.rsa.pub ) you (maybe or you must ) have also the private key that remains in the computer you use . so the public key it goes to the other computer (a server ot...whatever )
[16:06] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD) only 1 of the 2 drives lost metadata.
[16:06] <mkanyicy> pete_, in some remote desktop apps its ALT+ENTER, other CTRL + ENTER others none
[16:06] <NET||abuse> ANyone have some other suggestions on sip client for ubuntu ?
[16:06] <Doonz> ionut: its there
[16:06] <NET||abuse> i googled wengo phone projects, but their site seems down,
[16:06] <sudormsys32> mkanyicy, he could always put in the dimensions
[16:07] <mkanyicy> sudormsys32, yeah, you are right
[16:07] <ionut> Doonz: try to use the putty package ( has an application [GUI] to generate key -private and public) )
[16:07] <pete_> mkanyicy, its realvnc
[16:07] <Doonz> ok
[16:08] <Doonz> cd ..
[16:08] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD) only 1 of the 2 drives lost metadata.
[16:09] <dag_> danny: i can't help you more,
[16:09] <mkanyicy> natewiebe13, and if you want to check disks on every reboot "sudo touch /forcefsck ; sudo chattr +i /forcefsck"
[16:09] <mkanyicy> pete_, I am not a rdp guy, so i tried one app sometime ago and that worked
[16:10] <sudormsys32> im not sure if you can make VNC fullscreen
[16:10] <mkanyicy> ionut, is Doonz using windows?
[16:10] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD) only 1 of the 2 drives lost metadata.
[16:10] <pete_> mkanyicy, can you tell me how to change the resolution to 1024x768 for an xserver on the command line?
[16:10] <djoef> Hi, is it possible to retrieve a list of all network printers ?
[16:10] <mkanyicy> pete_, what is xserver ?
[16:11] <pete_> mkanyicy, nevermind thanks anyway
[16:11] <mkanyicy> pete_, cheers
[16:11] <sudormsys32> pete_, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:11] <ionut> mkanyicy: i do't know
[16:11] <Diverdude> does anybody in here know of a good place where movies may be streamed? (of course for a payed fee)
[16:11] <Doonz> ionut: where is that otion in putty
[16:11] <pete_> sudormsys32, i need to change the resolution on a machine with no monitor to 1024x768 over ssh so my remote desktop will be useable
[16:12] <mkanyicy> Doonz, are you  using windows ?
[16:12] <ionut> mkanyicy: is the same also for linux
[16:12] <sudormsys32> pete_, you'll have to edit the xorg.conf
[16:12] <Doonz> mkanyicy: im trying to set up passwordless rsync between two computers
[16:12] <nastaros> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to restore a RAID0 metadata after doing "dmraid -rE" (i lost the .dat files because I was running on the liveCD) only 1 of the 2 drives lost metadata.
[16:13] <mkanyicy> Doonz, i don't know rsync but does it use ssh ?
[16:13] <ionut> Doonz:  firs generate the keys (priv and pub) save the pub key on the server or whatever and the private key you must import it in peageant
[16:13] <ionut> afk
[16:13] <Doonz> ok any chance i would have to restart the sshd server for it to take eefect?
[16:13] <pete_> sudormsys32, its an nvidia card, i think it uses some nvidia file
[16:13] <dag_> pete, do you use nvidia? if yes  try gksudo nvidia-settings it will change you xorg.conf
[16:14] <pete_> dag_, thank you
[16:14] <sudormsys32> dag_, won't that bring up a gui?
[16:14] <pete_> yea ;\
[16:14] <sudormsys32> hes trying to do it from the terminal
[16:15] <pete_> i cant get to the button
[16:15] <pete_> lol
[16:15] <sudormsys32> you'll have to sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:15] <sudormsys32> err nano or gedit
[16:15] <pete_> i dont see a section in their
[16:15] <pete_> about resolution
[16:15] <djoef> anyone ?
[16:15] <OerHeks> djoef, list of supported network printers ?
[16:16] <mkanyicy> Doonz, you don't have to restart the ssh server
[16:16] <djoef> just available network printers in this network
[16:16] <mercutio22> I can't remove a package that failed to install: linux-backports-modules. Can someone assist me? sudo dpkg --configure -a will not do it
[16:16] <djoef> OerHeks, I have a host adress
[16:16] <mkanyicy> Doonz, create an ssh key on PC 1 and create the shh key on PC 2
[16:16] <sudormsys32> INVITE pete_ resolution
[16:16] <al2cand> hello, I would like help to install a wireless router (WRT120N)à
[16:16] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, does anyone use amule? hi, my hard drive's space finished so amule stopped some downloads, i freed some space and right click on em selecting "resume"... now, where it's supposed to be saying "waiting" or "downloading", basically where it said "stopped" before, it says "erroneous" what does it mean? those downloads won't start again, any help? thanks
[16:17] <pete_> sudormsys32, ?
[16:17] <Doonz> client$ ssh -o PreferredAuthenticationspublickey server.example.org
[16:17] <Doonz> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[16:17] <OerHeks> djoef see Cups, type 'localhost:631' in firefox
[16:17] <mkanyicy> Doonz, then copy the public key of PC1 to authorized_keys of PC2 and that of PC2 to authorized_keys of PC1
[16:18] <sudormsys32> errr sorry, what does the xorg.conf give you?
[16:18] <mkanyicy> Doonz, have finally got it working ?
[16:18] <mkanyicy> Doonz, have YOU finally got it working ?
[16:19] <Doonz> mkanyicy: no
[16:19] <Doonz> i think i may have my sshd set up wrong
[16:19] <ubuntunewbie> not sure whether it's possible , I heard that linux able to run multiple mouse and keyboard acting as 2 computer on one computer ?
[16:19] <pete_> sudormsys32, http://pastebin.com/m2906e3bd
[16:19] <mkanyicy> Doonz, on PC1 please do a "ssh-keygen" and then press enter all the way
[16:19] <Flynsarmy> What's a nice dl manager for gnome that lets you specify the filename when dling? 'Download for X' doesnt hvae a nice UI, gwget doesnt let you specify name
[16:20] <mkanyicy> Doonz, don't touch the ssh daemon at all
[16:20] <mkanyicy> Doonz, did you execute that command ?
[16:20] <pirate> Got a problem
[16:20] <pirate> Can't sudo
[16:20] <pirate> :(
[16:21] <mkanyicy> pirate, get rights from admin :)
[16:21] <Doonz> mkanyicy: i didnt have the key file set up in the sshd
[16:21] <Doonz> need to reboot brb
[16:21] <MorphyNOR> Flynsarmy: what sort of protocol do you intend to use when downloading?
[16:21] <pirate> mkanyicy, Can I explain what I did?
[16:21] <Sabre-night> My internet is horrible! it is taking so long that google chrome thinks they've become 'unresponsive' i can't go anywhere but my home page when i close out GC and re-run it.
[16:21] <Flynsarmy> MorphyNOR, http
[16:21] <Sabre-night> someone tell me what's wrong it was better than this yesterday!
[16:21] <mkanyicy> pirate, that's what you  were supposed to do earlier
[16:21] <MorphyNOR> Flynsarmy: firefox with a downloadmanager addon perhaps?
[16:21] <Hajex> hi .. when system wake up after suspen , screen will never turn on .. what is the problem ?
[16:21] <sudormsys32> pete_, i'm looking at it now
[16:21] <ubuntunewbie> i mean running multiple mouse and keyboard
[16:21] <Flynsarmy> MorphyNOR, nah, looking for a standalone app
[16:21] <pete_> sudormsys32, k thx
[16:21] <mkanyicy> Doonz, why are you bothering yourself about sshd ?
[16:22] <mkanyicy> pirate, please DO NOT pm without permission, I am not an expert
[16:22] <pirate> mkanyicy, Deleted the original account
[16:23] <pirate> mkanyicy, And got errors when tried to type in password
[16:23] <Sabre-night> augh... i know the problem... i just installed an update for google chrome... it's rendered my browser useless.... anyone know how to uninstall an update like that?
[16:23] <mkanyicy> pirate, lesson number one, never delete original account without giving sudo permissions to the new one
[16:23] <mauricioquiros> Hi, Where is the best place to ask for Ubuntu help? since last version update, My computer crash everyday, got freeze etc, please help. where should I ask for it?
[16:23] <pirate> mkanyicy, Any way to fix it?
[16:23] <ardchoille> Sabre-night: you could always reinstall google chrome and avoid updating it
[16:24] <teok28> !netbook
[16:24] <mkanyicy> pirate, anyway boot into recovery mode and then add the new account to the group admin
[16:24] <pirate> OK, thanks
[16:24] <pirate> mkanyicy, :)
[16:24] <Sabre-night> ardchoille, you mean uninstall it first right?
[16:24] <tsolox> mauricioquiros: what's your ubuntu version now?
[16:24] <ardchoille> Sabre-night: yes
[16:24] <Sabre-night> ardchoille,.. stupid qustion.
[16:24] <mkanyicy> pirate, "sudo adduser username admin"
[16:24] <syockit> Sabre-night: you'd need to downgrade, and lock version. If I'm not mistaken, apt/aptitude allows you to skip certain version
[16:24] <sudormsys32> pete_, try this http://pastebin.com/m7f63c2f1
[16:25] <pirate> mkanyicy, tnx
[16:25] <mkanyicy> pirate, that will add the username of your user to the group admin
[16:25] <ubuntunewbie> I wanted my pc to act as 2 pc with 2 multiple mouse
[16:25] <xckpd7> how to restart X? (ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't work)
[16:25] <mkanyicy> pirate, no prob
[16:25] <oal> Can I use a live usb as a repository on a usb stick for a pc without internet?
[16:25] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: 9.10 amd64
[16:25] <ardchoille> xckpd7: log out, that will restart xorg
[16:26] <ralphholzmann> Hello, I've upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now my audio card (SB Audigy 1) isn't being recognized by pulseaudio. I'm stuck with "dummy output". Any ideas?
[16:26] <xckpd7> ardchoille: thanks, will do
[16:26] <tsolox> mauricioquiros: before it was 8.10?
[16:26] <ubuntunewbie> anyone heard of Synergy?
[16:26] <tsolox> synegy: multiscreen tool..
[16:26] <slawek> ubuntu pl
[16:26] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: 9.04
[16:26] <meowsus> I'm having a bash brain fart. I've got a directory that has subdirectories and files all over the place. I want to take all files that have a .ppd extension and copy them outside the tree structure entirely
[16:26] <mkanyicy> xckpd7, there is a very forgettable key combination for that
[16:26] <VCoolio> xckpd7: alt+sysrq+k   is the default xorg keybinding now
[16:26] <slawek> pl
[16:27] <tsolox> mauricioquiros: when will the crash occur?
[16:27] <ardchoille> meowsus: find /path -name "*.ppd" -exec mv /new/path/here
[16:27] <jrib> meowsus: old bash you would use find, new bash you may use **/*.ppd
[16:27] <ralphholzmann> My card is however, being recognized by Alsa, just not pulseaudio.
[16:27] <ardchoille> meowsus: you need to change /path and /new/path/here
[16:27] <sudormsys32> pete_, let me know if that worked, i'll brb
[16:27] <meowsus> ardchoille: let me try it out
[16:28] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: Im not really sure but it crash for sure when using VirtualBox and playing video in the host, also browser with lots of tabs
[16:28] <mkanyicy> jrib, what do you mean by that? am curious
[16:28] <ardchoille> meowsus: find /path -name "*.ppd" -exec mv /new/path/here {} \;
[16:28] <ardchoille> meowsus: sorry, typo
[16:28] <jrib> mkanyicy: **/*.ppd expands to all files that match the "*.ppd" glob recursively
[16:29] <tsolox> mauricioquiros: where you able to complete the software update from 9.04 to 9.10?
[16:29] <djoef> OerHeks, what if IPadress:631 worked before (gave  a list of all printers) but doesn't anymore ? (Failed to Connect)
[16:29] <ardchoille> jrib: nice
[16:29] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: yes
[16:29] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: all updates ok so far too
[16:29] <mauricioquiros> tsolox:I have 4GB memory, but seems that when computer use all crash, also I noticed that computer get very hot on the PSU
[16:29] <mkanyicy> jrib, on what bash version is that feature available ?
[16:29] <OerHeks> djoef then cups has stopped ?
[16:29] <xckpd7> can I get some help getting dual monitors to work? I have an Nvidia graphics card, it won't let me use the native ubuntu tool (it will let me use the nvidia tool) and it won't save the x config file
[16:29] <ubuntunewbie> how do I split and running 2 mouse and keyboard together ?
[16:29] <robbins62>  I just booted up my laptop to find this error... Error 23: Error while parsing number.  Anyone have any ideas?
[16:30] <jrib> mkanyicy: I don't know, it's fairly recent, but it exists on my jaunty install (or just use a nicer shell like zsh :))
[16:30] <mkanyicy> Doonz, are you winning
[16:30] <ardchoille> ubuntunewbie: 2 mouse and kb's on the same monitor? I don't think that's possible
[16:30] <tsolox> mauricioquiros: it could be in your video driver..i guess..since you said video..
[16:30] <mkanyicy> jrib, ok
[16:30] <ubuntunewbie> ardchoille: I saw somewhere it's possible at youtube , I forgotten already since it's few years ago
[16:31] <tsolox> sorry..i mean it could be in the driver..not sure..what
[16:31] <ubuntunewbie> ardchoille: multiple mouse and keyboard on one pc act differently
[16:31] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: maybe yeah, but I have no clue, I can play video without problem if VirtualBox is off, but sometimes if I have many programs running it crash anyways
[16:31] <ardchoille> ubuntulog: 2 mouse and kb's on the same computer for two different monitors, yes that's possible with a hardware switch but
[16:31] <ralphholzmann> Anyone have an idea on why my audigy sound card is being recognized by alsa but not pulseaudio?
[16:32] <mkanyicy> ralphholzmann, try #lad and #alsa
[16:32] <pete_> sudormsys32, nope killed the graphics ;\
[16:32] <ralphholzmann> mkanyicy, thank you
[16:34] <dag_> pete: try gksudo nvidia-settings , save and reboot
[16:35] <ubuntunewbie> ardchoille: ?
[16:35] <ardchoille> ubuntulog: ?
[16:35] <mauricioquiros> tsolox: Do you know where I can ask for pro help? Im willing to pay I really need to work and this version of U is not working to me...
[16:36] <lucy> anyone got sabnzbplus?
[16:37] <Hilikus> how do i get the source of a package and have it ready to be compiled again?
[16:37] <ubuntunewbie> ardchoille: I mean concurrent mouse and keyboard input on one OS
[16:37] <Suriomario> how come I cant watch videos on www.sextv1.com ?
[16:37] <pete_> sudormsys32, got it fixed.
[16:37] <ardchoille> ubuntunewbie: I've never seen that
[16:37] <kubanc> how do i view my shared files in ubuntu ?
[16:37] <dooglus_> Suriomario: it's just a parked domain
[16:38] <ubuntunewbie> ardchoille: I yes in window http://www.wunderworks.com/teamplayer/
[16:38] <sudormsys32> huzzah!
[16:38] <Aluado> hi guys! please, does anyone know how can I install an old kernel on ubuntu 9.10? I'm using 2.6.31-17 and I want to try a software that only runs on 2.6.24... is there any way to install 2.6.24 ?
[16:38] <Suriomario> dooglus_, what do u mean by parked domain?
[16:38] <piglit> Aluado, have tried synaptic?
[16:38] <ardchoille> ubuntunewbie: that's on Windows, I haven't touched Windows in 8 years
[16:39] <dooglus_> Suriomario: it's not a real site - it just redirects somewhere else
[16:39] <Aluado> piglit, yes I did... but it only gets the new kernels
[16:39] <dooglus_> Suriomario: did you type the address wrong?
[16:39] <Suriomario> dooglus_, soz .. my bad http://www.sextv1.tv/
[16:39] <sudormsys32> nice
[16:40] <Aluado> I know I can compile the old kernel, but I'd like to know if there is a way to make this via .deb or apt
[16:40] <Shazam> I have  a new partition I want to automount. I've got an entry in /etc/fstab that mounts it in the right place, but I want it to have owner group of my user, instead its owner group is root. Ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[16:40] <coreyB> hey all, is there anyway to install kwin on ubuntu 9.10?
[16:40] <ni1s_eee> Does anyone know where one can change the font size of the folder and message views?
[16:40] <sudormsys32> shazam, in fstab you need to put the userid you want
[16:41] <ni1s_eee> In evolution I mean
[16:41] <llutz> Shazam: what filesystem?
[16:41] <lubosz> hi
[16:41] <Shazam> llutz, ext3
[16:41] <lubosz> which tools do i use to generate a xorg.conf?
[16:41] <dooglus_> Suriomario: perhaps it's a regional difference.  for me that redirects to http://us.lupaland.com/
[16:41] <lubosz> besides nvidia-xconfig
[16:41] <llutz> Shazam: sudo chown user:group /mount/point
[16:41] <patdk-wk> lubosz, vi :)
[16:41] <Shazam> sudormsys32: can I just write owner=user1 under the options column?
[16:42] <lubosz> patdk-wk: yes, but i wanted to see some more opinions, and get me another generator :D
[16:42] <patdk-wk> llutz, dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:42] <llutz> Shazam: uid= doesn't work for unix-fs, use chmod/chown
[16:42] <recmajkemi> tawd: thanks
[16:42] <karma_police> what is a good iso burner for ubuntu?
[16:42] <lubosz> karma_police: brasero
[16:42] <iceroot> karma_police: brasero, k3b or some cli-tools
[16:42] <Suriomario> dooglus_, well, thx anyway :-))))
[16:43] <Aluado> karma_police, brasero
[16:43] <Shazam> llutz: huh, i had previously done that, and when I restarted, the directory was back to root/root permissions, and i believe I had some data missing
[16:43] <karma_police> will brasero burn a windows iso?
[16:43] <iceroot> karma_police: sure
[16:43] <lubosz> karma_police: ISO != MS
[16:43] <Aluado> karma_police, a iso is a iso
[16:43] <llutz> Shazam: mount the partition, change permission/ownership then
[16:43] <karma_police> k.. thanks
[16:43] <Padraig> et
[16:43] <dooglus_> Suriomario: it plays for me, btw using the the totem browser plugin.  do you have that installed?
[16:43] <jiffe> anyone figured out why ubuntu 9.10 can take forever to login sometimes?
[16:44] <dooglus_> Suriomario: install package 'totem-mozilla'
[16:44] <dooglus_> Suriomario: then maybe you'll need to restart the browser
[16:44] <lubosz> jiffe: you should use console login :p
[16:44] <Suriomario> no i just installed ubuntu :-)) let me try that plugin
[16:45] <jiffe> doesn't matter how I login, console, ssh
[16:45] <lubosz> jiffe: weird, i didnt notice any perfomance issue there
[16:45] <jiffe> all of my 9.10's are on vmware, not sure if that matters, 9.04 didn't have that problem though, nor 8.04
[16:45] <lubosz> jiffe: even without the xserver running
[16:45] <jiffe> yeah, just straight ubuntu server
[16:45] <verb3k> how to find my audio device name? (/dev/???)
[16:45] <lubosz> jiffe: did you boot ext4 partitions?
[16:46] <dooglus_> verb3k: dsp?
[16:46] <jiffe> some yes some no, even the ones I've upgraded from 9.04 which are ext3 have that problem
[16:46] <verb3k> dooglus_, dsp is the default?
[16:46] <dooglus_> verb3k: I guess so
[16:46] <verb3k> dooglus_, thanks
[16:46] <lubosz> jiffe: when its just vms, then try a fresh install with ext4 (home folder also ext4)
[16:46] <lubosz> maybe that gives you some perfomance boost
[16:47] <jiffe> yeah I've got a few that are a fresh install using ext4
[16:47] <jiffe> its just login, everything else is fine after login
[16:47] <recmajkemi> ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata is it safe to delete those files inthere?
[16:47] <lubosz> jiffe: is it just the first user?
[16:48] <message144> Hi, I added the mozilla-daily ppa to my sources so that I could get the latest version of thunderbird. It is however also giving me the latest version of Firefox. Is there a way to avoid this?
[16:48] <jiffe> no, additional users have the same problem
[16:48] <babar_> hi how are you
[16:48] <guntbert> jiffe: long login times = problems with name resolution - or hostname
[16:48] <lubosz> do following: login as root, do "tail /var/log/*.log" and in another shell, login as user
[16:48] <jiffe> normally, but not the case here
[16:48] <lubosz> and then read the output
[16:48] <arvind_khadri> message144, you can hold firefox to the current version
[16:48] <jiffe> the problem only shows up in 9.10
[16:48] <lubosz> jiffe: tail /var/log/*.log -f
[16:48] <message144> arvind_khadri, how do i do that?
[16:48] <diego_> hola
[16:49] <arvind_khadri> message144, sudo aptitude hold <package name>
[16:49] <message144> arvind_khadri, ah... ok thanks :)
[16:49] <lubosz> jiffe: did you looked for bugs on launchpad?
[16:49] <papusho> wenas xente
[16:49] <arvind_khadri> message144, no probs
[16:49] <papusho> como tan
[16:50] <papusho> wenos días
[16:50] <papusho> saludos desde coatzacoalcos
[16:50] <recmajkemi> Does anyone else have ablone folder in home directory?
[16:51] <SwedeMike> !es | papusho
[16:51] <jrib> recmajkemi: what language is that?-
[16:51] <message144> arvind_khadri, if i hold the package, does that mean that it wont receive any updates either?
[16:51] <arvind_khadri> message144, yes
[16:51] <message144> arvind_khadri, ok
[16:51] <coreyB> is there anyway to install kwin on ubuntu 9.10? (i like it better than compiz)
[16:51] <lubosz> when xserver starts in failsafe mode, i have some configuration options. which tools are used in there?
[16:52] <patdk-wk> dpkg-reconfigure
[16:52] <lubosz> coreyB: you could install kubuntu or just use aptitude in your running install
[16:52] <Blaze_Boy> my ubuntu 9.10 cannot enable desktop effect since the last update (only today)
[16:53] <recmajkemi> jrib: In my home folder some ablone folder is made, its empty but I don't know if its save to delete it
[16:53] <coreyB> lubosz,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? i want the kwin effects on gnome
[16:53] <jrib> recmajkemi: you didn't answer my question :/  just rename it and see what happens, that way you can restore it
[16:53] <lubosz> coreyB: this should contain kwin, but i'm not sure since i use gnome, try #kubuntu
[16:54] <lubosz> coreyB: you should be able to set the default window manager with dpkg
[16:54] <JordiRT> Hi all, how do I do to automatic login to a specific user ?
[16:54] <Blaze_Boy> my ubuntu 9.10 cannot enable desktop effect since the last update (only today), please help !!!
[16:55] <w00t3r> i am getting the obtaining IP address problem with wicd.  can anybody point me in the right direction on this?  im new to linux so take it easy on me :)
[16:55] <lubosz> Blaze_Boy: which graphics hardware do you have?
[16:55] <m0ar> How to mount a dvd-image in Ubuntu?
[16:55] <recmajkemi> jrib: K ill rename it. what did u mean by language?
[16:55] <coreyB> Blaze_Boy,  system > administration > hardware drivers
[16:55] <lubosz> Blaze_Boy: maybe you dont have the correct kernel modules for your kernel
[16:55] <jiffe> lubosz: I have, I haven't seen anything
[16:55] <darco> blaze-boy: reinstall your graphic drivers
[16:55] <Blaze_Boy> i have intel and it was running normally ?
[16:55] <jiffe> lubosz: last time I asked about it someone mentioned that it was a known problem, I didn't ask if there was a bug report associated with it though
[16:55] <recmajkemi> jrib: u meant my nickname?
[16:55] <coreyB> lubosz,  once i install the kubuntu-desktop, how do i set kwin to the default?
[16:55] <Hilikus> how do i get the source of a package and have it ready to be compiled again?
[16:56] <darco> reinstall always works for me
[16:56] <Blaze_Boy> coreyB: only the wireless as always
[16:56] <lubosz> coreyB: which dpkg frontend did you use? you should be prompted
[16:56] <ubuntu---> when I get a message on pidgin it pops up the message
[16:56] <jrib> recmajkemi: no, I was wondering if "ablone" had a meaning in a different language.  Maybe your install is localized to a language other than english?
[16:56] <ubuntu---> how do I hide it
[16:56] <Blaze_Boy> darco: i have intel how to install it ?
[16:56] <jrib> !source | Hilikus
[16:56] <coreyB> im not sure what you mean lubosz, i just sudo-apt get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:56] <ubuntu---> that black bubble
[16:56] <sudormsys32> ubuntu---, check plugins
[16:57] <ubuntu---> ok
[16:57] <MohammadRR> hi i have karmic with apache2 vsftpd mysql servers and now that they dont start when computer boot what should i do ?
[16:57] <ubuntu---> libnotify?
[16:57] <guntbert> darco: please don't recommend a reinstall as "cure for all"
[16:57] <chris8> Hey room-- trying to compile a podzilla installer but having problems... running 9.0X... getting a ++g error when compiling... Is there an Add/Remove installer program i could more easily install?
[16:57] <sudormsys32> ubuntu---, you got it
[16:57] <ubuntu---> thanks !
[16:57] <lubosz> coreyB: apt should open some gui where you can set a window manager (that was the case some time ago when i installed kde the last time :D)
[16:57] <ubuntu---> =]
[16:57] <recmajkemi> jrib: its installed in english, but i had it localized in slovene
[16:57] <Hilikus> thanks jrib
[16:57] <coreyB> hmm
[16:57] <message144> Is it possible to only show specific packages from a PPA?
[16:57] <coreyB> i'll try again gimme 10 minutes lol
[16:57] <jrib> recmajkemi: does "ablone" have a meaning in slovene?
[16:58] <lubosz> coreyB: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin ?
[16:58] <marian> it doesnt work even after i installed totem-mozilla plugin :-(
[16:58] <coreyB> hmm
[16:58] <darco> im was talking about the video drivers
[16:58] <coreyB> ok sec lubosz  its re-downloading
[16:59] <chris8> Hey room, help please-- trying to compile a podzilla installer but having problems... running 9.0X... getting a ++g error when compiling... Is there an Add/Remove installer program i could more easily install?
[16:59] <Doonz> Ok here's my issue. server 1 can log into server 2 through ssh without password authentication. but server 2 cannot log into server 1 without having to enter a password. Im trying to set up rsync from server 2 to server 1 without being prompted for password
[16:59] <IdleOne> jrib: I believe he means oblong/diamond
[16:59] <MohammadRR> no answer /
[16:59] <MohammadRR> ?
[17:00] <guntbert> recmajkemi: do you know that there is #ubuntu-si too ?
[17:00] <chris8> Help!  What's the easiest way to get linux on a 5th gen Ipod?
[17:00] <Pici> MohammadRR: How did you install them?
[17:01] <MohammadRR> Pici : sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server mysql-admin vsftpd
[17:01] <chris8> Don't hate me -- i didn't buy it :P it was a throw-me-down
[17:01] <Pici> MohammadRR: Then they should be starting at boot, unless you changed something.
[17:01] <MohammadRR> Pici : what ?
[17:01] <Guest76178> Anyone here know how to change the parameters of gspca?
[17:01] <przemo_one> hello
[17:01] <damien> Resalut
[17:01] <Ikthus> re :)
[17:02] <Pici> MohammadRR: The only reason why they might fail is due to a bad configuration file.  Can you start apache2 using sudo service apache2 start ?
[17:02] <Ikthus> Je sais plus qui m'a aidé mais merci beaucoup !
[17:02] <Pici> !fr | Ikthus
[17:02] <DarkWell> hello
[17:02] <Ikthus> !prout
[17:02] <w00t3r> i need help getting my laptop online
[17:02] <Um_cara_qualquer> I don't understand something here in this new version of ubuntu, why the trash doesn't show anything?
[17:02] <Ikthus> oops
[17:02] <w00t3r> please help
[17:02] <Ikthus> sorry
[17:02] <Ikthus> cya
[17:02] <mediaprodigy> anyone have any experience with freenx... ? on ubuntu
[17:02] <w00t3r> i am getting the obtaining IP address problem with wicd.  can anybody point me in the right direction on this?  im new to linux so take it easy on me :)
[17:02] <erUSUL> Guest76178: normally creating a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ with a line like « options gpsca [whatever] »
[17:03] <przemo_one> w00t3r nice nick, it says that you don't need help
[17:03] <MohammadRR> Pici : yes
[17:03] <alexsander> is there some WYSIWYG editor for Linux similar to MS Frontpage that handles area/map tags?
[17:03] <Guest42380> hello
[17:03] <DarkWell> are there a way to store setting such as those you have set in metacity/gnome when doing a liceCD run ? I wnat to be able to simple restore it from say an usb memstick
[17:03] <przemo_one> w00t3r what's wicd?
[17:03] <Needs_Help> network manager?
[17:03] <DarkWell> on next startup
[17:04] <przemo_one> Needs_Help what is your internet connection type?
[17:04] <Pici> MohammadRR: sudo update-rc.d $servicename defaults     will make the service start at boot, but like I said, this is the default behavior.
[17:05] <Needs_Help> is there another wifi manager besides network-manager and wicd?
[17:05] <MohammadRR> Pici : ok thanks
[17:05] <militant> Quick question.  If i were going to try to play a game (such as Oblivion) would I be better off starting my efforts with wine, or an actual windows virtual machine?  i have no use for a vm other than this so...
[17:05] <Hilikus> i remember there was a way to create a "fake" subsystem inside ubuntu to build packages without poluting your main system with devel packages
[17:05] <Hilikus> what is that called again?
[17:05] <erUSUL> find conman | Needs_Help
[17:06] <erUSUL> !find conman | Needs_Help
[17:06] <sudormsys32> militant, depends, most vmware won't support directx
[17:06] <przemo_one> Needs_Help I don't think so. NM is good
[17:06] <draconas> i got a question/issue with ubuntu and wubi
[17:06] <przemo_one> Needs_Help What is the name of your network card?
[17:06] <DarkWell> im not interested in running any kind of "persistence" jsut be able to restiore some metacity settings
[17:06] <arvind_khadri> Hilikus, chroot ??
[17:07] <militant> sudormsys32, that's what i thought.  but is wine complete enough to handle something like that then?  or what about a really outdated game (like late 90's)
[17:07] <coreyB> hey lubosz i installed kwin again and nothing mate
[17:07] <coreyB> i even ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin and still nothing
[17:07] <Hilikus> arvind_khadri: will chroot keep a separate list of installed packages?
[17:07] <sudormsys32> militant, you'd have to check wineHQ and see, or just play around with it
[17:07] <przemo_one> DarkWell all settings are in home directory of user
[17:07] <Hilikus> !chroot
[17:07] <erUSUL> DarkWell: you can try with gconftool2
[17:07] <patcito> hi
[17:07] <Hilikus> arvind_khadri: no, thats not it
[17:07] <Hilikus> !pbuilder
[17:07] <draconas> i got a question/issue with ubuntu and wubi
[17:07] <militant> sudormsys32, doing so now.  appreciate the suggestion
[17:07] <patcito> how do I set up custom dns so they are not being overwritten everytime I restart?
[17:08] <arvind_khadri> Hilikus, /msg the boot
[17:08] <coreyB> lubosz?
[17:08] <lubosz> coreyB: do you want to use kwin oder kdm?
[17:08] <coreyB> kwin.
[17:08] <lubosz> you can select kde at login
[17:08] <mikeyx0x> i am getting the following error PHP script /var/www/classes/config.php is protected by phpSHIELD and requires the phpSHIELD loader phpshield.5.2.lin. The phpSHIELD loader has not been installed, or is not installed correctly. Please visit the phpSHIELD php encoder site to download required loader.any help
[17:09] <coreyB> i dont want to use kde, i want kwin on ubuntu >:
[17:09] <lubosz> coreyB: in your sessions options
[17:09] <przemo_one> lubosz what's your nationality?
[17:10] <lubosz> przemo_one: my nick seems to be to obvious, you're not the first one to ask ;D
[17:10] <draconas> i got a question/issue with ubuntu and wubi
[17:10] <mediaprodigy> Anyone here using VNC with ubuntu? Are you satisfied with it? Do you recommend any particular solution to logging in remotely with a gui interface?
[17:10] <mikeyx0x> i need help
[17:10] <przemo_one> lubosz so is it the same as mine?
[17:10] <Pixar> anyone know a large package list addition with urls for my apt-get ?
[17:10] <mikeyx0x> PHP script /var/www/classes/config.php is protected by phpSHIELD and requires the phpSHIELD loader phpshield.5.2.lin. The phpSHIELD loader has not been installed, or is not installed correctly. Please visit the phpSHIELD php encoder site to download required loader.
[17:11] <lubosz> przemo_one: you could whois me :p
[17:11] <mikeyx0x> how to i get rid of this error
[17:11] <Doonz> Ok here's my issue. server 1 can log into server 2 through ssh without password authentication. but server 2 cannot log into server 1 without having to enter a password. Im trying to set up rsync from server 2 to server 1 without being prompted for password
[17:11] <lubosz> przemo_one: but it wouldn't have the expected result
[17:11] <przemo_one> lubosz i have your ip, but asking you is much easier
[17:11] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious?
[17:12] <guntbert> mikeyx0x: I don't see anything ubuntu related in your question - if its about a web server you could try ##httpd or ##php
[17:12] <mikeyx0x> ok thanks
[17:12] <guntbert> !ot | przemo_one, lubosz
[17:12] <prashant> hi
[17:13] <Needs_Help> przemo_one - i am using an intel that is built in to the laptop, but i also have a usb belkin that gives me the same problems
[17:14] <arvind_khadri> !hi | prashant
[17:14] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious?
[17:14] <militant> sudormsys32, not that you're interested, but final fantasy 8 is gold on wine.  i'm ecstatic
[17:15] <przemo_one> Needs_Help can you see your wiwi card in NM?
[17:15] <sudormsys32> militant, haha really now? i was actually curious as to what you would be looking for
[17:15] <geconf> how to check if file downloaded via wget was downloaded in 100%?
[17:15] <ubuntu__> halo
[17:16] <militant> sudormsys32, yeah i been wanting to do a playthrough for a while.  i'm pretty excited now :D
[17:16] <benpro> plop
[17:16] <guntbert> !md5 | geconf
[17:16] <przemo_one> geconf get md5sum of that file
[17:16] <sudormsys32> militant, you excited about the new one this spring?  its 14 i believe...it looks pretty amazing
[17:16] <ubuntu__> im is saudi
[17:16] <geconf> but i do not have this file
[17:16] <guntbert> !sa | ubuntu__
[17:17] <militant> sudormsys32, tbh i lost interest in FF after 9 or so.  i been playing since ff1 and X onward are good RPG's but not really 'final fantasy'
[17:17] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious? (getting tired of asking)
[17:17] <Needs_Help> przemo_one : i figured it out
[17:17] <kurbizza> hello
[17:17] <sudormsys32> militant, yeah i know what you mean.  Tactics is my favorite.  And not the lame DS/Advanced ones, the original PS1 :D
[17:17] <Flare183> draconas: Sounds like it O.O
[17:17] <Flare183> !hi | kurbizza
[17:17] <przemo_one> geconf when wget exits without error file is 100%. besides it shows a progress bar
[17:18] <militant> YES sir.  a wise individual you are.  i tried to play 12 and just wasn't interested after 10 hours.  i love 5 thru 8 like my own children though
[17:18] <mragab> hi am new to ubuntu, 1st time actually, i have ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, and i need to mount a secondary internal disk automaticall on startup for all users, give users read write access as well, pliz help
[17:18] <guntbert> !ot | militant, sudormsys32
[17:18] <draconas> Flare183: i used checkdisk, it deleted the integrator and reinstalled it, but im not sure if its really serious or not if ubuntu corrupts it
[17:19] <kurbizza> i have a dvb which should work natively in 2.6.28 kernel, but it does not
[17:19] <Flare183> mragab: Add the it as an entry to your /etc/fstab file
[17:19] <obiwan_> hii
[17:19] <amcsi> how do I make it so gnome always starts a new session for me and never restores the old one?
[17:19] <przemo_one> mragab google for "fstab edition"
[17:19] <OneMillionDollar> i believe linux os like ubuntu will always be adopted by a small group of pc users
[17:19] <amcsi> ubuntu 9.10
[17:19] <obiwan_> it doesn't amcsi, does it? whenever i restart gdm old windows won't load by default
[17:19] <guntbert> !ot | OneMillionDollar
[17:20] <JohnnyDoe> anyone know a good ubuntu Internet radio player?
[17:20] <amcsi> well no...
[17:20] <kurbizza> i had tried to install it manually, but "make" makes loooots of errors
[17:20] <Flare183> obiwan_: Well it can tho.
[17:20] <mragab> Flare183, i know of the fstab file, but then i dont know the options, after the uuid, mount point, fs, <i cant figure out the options>
[17:20] <amcsi> but Xorg is using 500MB of ram
[17:20] <amcsi> what is causing it then?
[17:20] <amcsi> I know compiz is open. Is that causing it?
[17:20] <geconf> przemo_one if you use --timeout flag it might happend that wget quit before file was downloaded
[17:20] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe Totem
[17:20] <Flare183> kurbizza: Its possible.
[17:20] <obiwan_> how flare? it'd be ok for my mum, not for me hhaha i'd probably drive into embarrassing troubles if i did haha
[17:20] <JohnnyDoe> thnx
[17:20] <mragab> Flare183, the options must be , mount for all users on startup, and read/write for all users?
[17:21] <przemo_one> geconf never tested
[17:21] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one can i apt-get totem?
[17:21] <amcsi> n wait
[17:21] <Flare183> mragab: Hmm PM me and I'll try to help you more.
[17:21] <amcsi> it isn'T using that much memory
[17:21] <obiwan_> if its in repos, why not=?
[17:21] <amcsi> well, it is, but mostly virtual memory
[17:21] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious?
[17:21] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe it's by default installed
[17:21] <amcsi> but it uses 50% cpu now O_o
[17:22] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe and there is audacious (apt-get it)
[17:22] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe sorry it might be sound edition program
[17:22] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe nope that's audacity :)
[17:22] <kins98> how can you manage your iPhone on ubuntu?
[17:23] <obiwan_> great question kins
[17:23] <obiwan_> hope somebody knows the answer
[17:23] <kins98> answer?
[17:23] <obiwan_> i got an ipod touch too
[17:23] <kins98> does anyone know?
[17:23] <obiwan_> jailbroke ofc
[17:23] <kins98> i got an iPhone 3GS 32GB
[17:23] <przemo_one> kins98 google first
[17:23] <kins98> how do I manage it on ubuntu?
[17:23] <geconf> kins98 i use itunes on virtual windows
[17:23] <przemo_one> kins98 better use motorola v8 - linux on it :)
[17:23] <obiwan_> wow you little lucky bas... i would kill for one like yours :( hope santa brings me one heeh
[17:24] <kins98> what's virtual windows?
[17:24] <kins98> sorry im new to ubuntu
[17:24] <przemo_one> kins98 i think he's talking about "wine"
[17:24] <kins98> ok
[17:24] <IdleOne> draconas: integrator.exe does not seem to have anything to do with wubi. I suggest you ask in ##windows for suggestions
[17:24] <kins98> i kno what that is
[17:24] <obiwan_> or maybe virtualbox
[17:24] <geconf> kins98 i use virtualbox
[17:25] <przemo_one> kins98 it's a software, which enables running ms windows apps on linux
[17:25] <JohnnyDoe> @przemo_one lol were is the file to run for totem
[17:25] <kins98> i kno but you can't run iTunes in wine
[17:25] <dooglus_>  can someone help me burn some data to dvd please?
[17:25] <dooglus_> I can't get k3b or brassero to work
[17:25] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe in console totem, its in Programs menu as well
[17:26] <obiwan_> kins you can in virtualbox
[17:26] <kins98> ok
[17:26] <obiwan_> simply install windows in it
[17:26] <obiwan_> and then itunes
[17:26] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious?
[17:26] <kins98> ok
[17:26] <przemo_one> obiwan_ but you have installed windows inside?
[17:26] <obiwan_> you'll need a windows key ofc
[17:26] <obiwan_> sure przemo_one
[17:26] <geconf> kins98 but not in opensource virtualbox - it can not bridged usb
[17:26] <obiwan_> i've played on virtualbox hehe
[17:27] <obiwan_> before i knew wine, in mac i used to play windows games on virtualbox
[17:27] <guntbert> !enter | obiwan_, kins98
[17:27] <dooglus_> !burning
[17:27] <draconas> i used wubi to install ubuntu, later i remove ubuntu through windows and it says in windows "integrator.exe is corrupted" is this serious?
[17:27] <obiwan_> now i know linux world and simply use linux progrms & wine ;)
[17:27] <obiwan_> sry gunt
[17:27] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, when i run it from shell it comes up as movie player
[17:27] <przemo_one> obiwan_ i prefer linux natural. i dont even like wine
[17:28] <IdleOne> draconas: that is a windows issue. ask in ##windows
[17:28] <kins98> ubuntu is awful compared to windows
[17:28] <kins98> Ubuntu is awful compared to windows
[17:28] <masha> hello
[17:29] <llutz> kins98: you already said that
[17:29] <raven_>  can ffplay simulate a conversion with ffmpeg?
[17:29] <mragab> hi i just installed ubuntu 9.10_64 bit, on a dell optiplex 755, the builtin speaker is mono, but my output from the volume control is stereo, it wont work like this, and it really dosent, can somebody help working it ?
[17:29] <JohnnyDoe> kins98, yeah right
[17:29] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe correct. if you click on link in your browser music will play and there will be a visualisation in pickture box
[17:29] <guntbert> kins98: please keept to the topic - don't make the channel scroll still more
[17:29] <kurbizza> dmesg does not detect my dvb, but it should. whats wrong with these?
[17:29] <masha> where am I here
[17:30] <przemo_one> kins98 ubuntu is beautiful compering to win
[17:30] <Pici> !ot
[17:30] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, word!
[17:30] <kurbizza> dmesg does not detect my dvb, but it should. whats wrong with these?
[17:31] <przemo_one> kurbizza what's the problem?
[17:31] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, infact my desktop it a picture of Tux whit a fly swatter about to smash on the windows butterfly
[17:31] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe had this one
[17:32] <geconf> how to get .rar filesize but from header? maybe i can compare with size on disk and than know if download is completed
[17:32] <kurbizza> dvb-t usb stick does not work with mythbuntu
[17:32] <przemo_one> geconf this is not linux topic
[17:32] <kurbizza> *compiling drivers 654th time*
[17:32] <mragab> hi i just installed ubuntu 9.10_64 bit, on a dell optiplex 755, the builtin speaker is mono, but my output from the volume control is stereo, it wont work like this, and it really dosent, can somebody help working it ?
[17:32] <dooglus_>  can someone help me burn some data to dvd please?
[17:33] <geconf> where should i go than?
[17:33] <przemo_one> dooglus no problem. run brasero or k3b
[17:33] <IdleOne> dooglus_: use gnomebaker or k3b ( both available in Synaptic )
[17:33] <dooglus_> przemo_one: I've done both of those things
[17:33] <dooglus_> przemo_one: k3b tells me to insert media (I have) and brasero tells me "cannot write image"
[17:34] <przemo_one> dooglus_ and?
[17:34] <dooglus_> IdleOne: I'll try gnomebaker.  thanks
[17:34] <dooglus_> przemo_one: and neither results in any burning happening
[17:34] <firekool> Is there a way I can duelboot linux and have it use the windows boot loader
[17:34] <przemo_one> dooglus_ check your desktop. is there any mounted disc?
[17:34] <mercutio32> hey room. I installed a package that failed to install and apt messages me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a. The problem remains unsolved and I can't install anything anylonger. please advise 15:33 < dooglus_> przemo_one: k3b tells me to insert media (I have) and brasero tells me "cannot  write image"
[17:34] <DevilM> I have a Problem . i can not copy file from vcds . why ?
[17:34] <trism> geconf: this may help you http://www.win-rar.com/index.php?id=24&kb_article_id=162 (description of the rar file format)
[17:34] <mercutio32> 15:ops
[17:34] <dooglus_> przemo_one: I have a laptop not a desktop.  I have several partitions mounted.
[17:34] <mercutio32> sorry
[17:35] <mercutio32> http://debian.pastebin.com/d28120da9 this is what I meant to paste
[17:35] <przemo_one> dooglus_ ubuntu 9.10 64bit have a little problem with unmounting discs
[17:36] <geconf> trism ok, thx, hope it helps me
[17:36] <mikeyx22> i am receiving an error for phpshield and i cant seem to find a room that can answer
[17:36] <przemo_one> dooglus_ if you can se on your desktop (i think of space with wallpaper:) ) a mounted volume cd dvd disc unmount it then
[17:37] <dooglus_> IdleOne: gnomebaker looked promising for a few minutes, but then it vanished:
[17:37] <dooglus_> vendor = TSSTcorp, model = CDDVDW TS-L633C device = B<
[17:37] <dooglus_> Segmentation fault
[17:37] <dooglus_> any more?
[17:37] <FloodBot3> dooglus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <dooglus_> przemo_one: I don't have a desktop
[17:37] <rob0t7> ion @Plone
[17:37] <przemo_one> please explain that to him,
[17:37] <mikeyx22> can any one in here help me
[17:37] <dooglus_> przemo_one: where the wallpaper would be in just black, empty
[17:38] <przemo_one> dooglus_ desktop is the space with all your icons
[17:38] <firekool> I am trying to duel boot ubuntu 9.10 and windows Vista. I need Windows to handle the boot manager due to I want to encrypt my windows partition. I have tried to download install and run Easybcd but that did not work.
[17:38] <firekool> Is there any way that I can do this?
[17:38] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, still having trouble with totem? were is the music lol.. link in browser?
[17:38] <przemo_one> dooglus_ are there any icons?
[17:38] <DevilM> no answer?
[17:38] <dooglus_> przemo_one: no, I don't have icons
[17:38] <dooglus_> przemo_one: I use a panel at the top of the screen to run stuff and see what's running
[17:39] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, all that comes up is a movie player
[17:39] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe yes, but it have playlist on the side and it can play internet streams as well
[17:40] <Tekk_> what's the full list of official *buntu distros?
[17:40] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe is there any link/radio you want to play?
[17:40] <Tekk_> I know ubuntu, xubuntu, kubundu, edubuntu
[17:40] <Diverdude> what kernel version does ubuntu have?
[17:40] <Diverdude> ubuntu 9.10
[17:41] <Pici> Diverdude: 2.6.31
[17:41] <mragab> hi i just installed ubuntu 9.10_64 bit, on a dell optiplex 755, the builtin speaker is mono, but my output from the volume control is stereo, it wont work like this, and it really dosent, can somebody help working it ?
[17:41] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, how do i import new stations to the playlist
[17:41] <przemo_one> Diverdude 2.6.31-17 generic thats for 9.10
[17:41] <aa1u_> hi people i have a problem with my wireless i have an acer apire one and i use ath5k and my wireless stops repsonding and then i have to reboot. i think that happens when i have medium to high traffic but im not shure. can anyone help?
[17:41] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe just open playlist and add i guess
[17:41] <dooglus_> Diverdude: it depends which repo you use.  mine has 2.6.31-16-generic-pae
[17:42] <dooglus_> I guess -17 is on the way
[17:42] <Pici> -17 is in proposed.
[17:42] <dooglus_> I see
[17:42] <aombk> hi people i have a problem with my wireless i have an acer apire one and i use ath5k and my wireless stops repsonding and then i have to reboot. i think that happens when i have medium to high traffic but im not shure. can anyone help?
[17:42] <Tekk_> what's the full list of official *buntu distros?
[17:42] <Pici> Tekk_: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives
[17:42] <przemo_one> aombk please
[17:43] <aombk> przemo_one, please what?
[17:43] <ElseNo> Can anyone suggest why my fan may be running on "overdrive." I wouldn't normally suspect Ubuntu except that it's a dual boot machine and it doesn't happen when the machine is booted into windows. The fan is so loud that it can be heard from another room, anyone have any idea how I might diagnose it?
[17:43] <przemo_one> aombk stop
[17:43] <blakkheim> ElseNo: check your cpu usage
[17:43] <IdleOne> przemo_one: any reason why you are being unhelpful?
[17:44] <dooglus_> I think I found a way to burn a DVD eventually
[17:44] <dooglus_> gnomebaker is able to make a .iso, and nautilus can burn it
[17:44] <purpzey> blakkheim: How?
[17:44] <przemo_one> IdleOne i think i'm helpful verry
[17:44] <skymit> Здраствйте
[17:44] <przemo_one> IdleOne very
[17:44] <blakkheim> purpzey: gnome-system-monitor or install something like htop
[17:45] <Pici> !ru | skymit
[17:45] <przemo_one> skymit hi
[17:46] <przemo_one> ElseNo what's your processor?
[17:46] <arand> purpzey: System>Administration>System Monitor-->Resources tab
[17:46] <recmajkemi> guntbert: Nah i did't knew it cause its not listed in ubuntu #irc cahnnel list, but thanks
[17:46] <skymit> есть русские?
[17:46] <skymit> народ
[17:47] <jadakren> dooglus_, dvd as in data dvd or a video dvd ?
[17:47] <jadakren> !info devede | dooglus_
[17:47] <przemo_one> skymit da #ubuntu-ru
[17:47] <purpzey> arand, blakkheim: The "Processes" tab shows that applications are using b/w 10 -15% of the CPU but the "Resources" tab shows that "CPU1" and "CPU2" are both at 100%.
[17:48] <Teratogen> I heard ubuntu is a trainwreck and that I should go with suse
[17:48] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, hey tryin to play a youtube vid in the totem.. get this error The playback of this movie requires a application/x-shockwave-flash decoder plugin which is not installed.
[17:48] <exco1> Teratogen: take a liveCD and see for yourself
[17:48] <mragab> hi i just installed ubuntu 9.10_64 bit, on a dell optiplex 755, the builtin speaker is mono, but my output from the volume control is stereo, it wont work like this, and it really dosent, can somebody help working it ?
[17:49] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe do you have 32 or 64bit system?
[17:49] <arand> purpzey: "Processes" Shows only the processes started by your user.
[17:49] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, pretty sure 32
[17:49] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe you need adobe flash player plugin
[17:49] <purpzey> arand: Is there any way to determine why "Resources" is showing both CPUs running at 100%?
[17:49] <jadakren> arand, purpzey it can be switched over to show all
[17:49] <arand> purpzey: In the view menu you can set it to view all.
[17:49] <purpzey> jadakren, arand: Ok, let me do that
[17:50] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe run synaptic, search for adobe flash player
[17:50] <kam> hi
[17:50] <przemo_one> kam hi
[17:51] <kam>  przemo_one do you speak french
[17:51] <przemo_one> kam nope polish :)
[17:52] <kam> c koi sa?
[17:53] <militant> my mouse pointer freezes for a second or so when i copy text, and again when i paste it.  no big deal, jw if there are any thoughts?
[17:53] <guntbert> !fr | kam
[17:53] <przemo_one> kam there might be seperate channel for french speaking people support
[17:54] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, says i have the adobe flash player for firefox
[17:54] <exco1> I fiddled with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ... is there a way to reset it to standard?
[17:54] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, so do i get swefdec flash player?
[17:55] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe that should do
[17:55] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe i play flash files from hard drive, let me check
[17:55] <mint3> hi
[17:55] <purpzey> jadakren, arand: There are two process running that are taking b/w 40 - 50%. One of the is related to setiathome and I can't seem to kill it, although I know it's not related to any central part of the system. The other is called "milkway_0.18_i686-pc-linux" which I am unfamiliar with. Is there a way to kill the setiathome process, so it actualy goes away? And what is the other process/can I kill it/how?
[17:56] <jadakren> purpzey, right clicking on the items and selecting kill process work ?
[17:56] <Diverdude> dooglus_, which command did you use again to see what version a specific program was?
[17:57] <mint3> how can i change the login screen ?
[17:57] <mint3> And is it possible for me to connect to my network hard drive ?
[17:57] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe my totem is not playing youtube urls. well give a shot with that
[17:57] <jadakren> mint3, with great difficulty
[17:57] <purpzey> jadakren: When I do that, system monitor just closes and I get "waiting" cursor, but nothing changes if I re-open system monitor.
[17:57] <mint3> why so, jadakren ?
[17:57] <Diverdude> dooglus_, dpkg or something?
[17:58] <ejwaxx> diverdude: you can use apt-cache $package
[17:58] <shawncm217> I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed in VirtualBox. Ubuntu will not remember my preferred screen resolution. I've tried Googling for how to set the default resolution. Everything says to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I do not have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. How do I set my desired default resolution manually?
[17:58] <darso> mint3: it's not difficult
[17:58] <jadakren> mint3, login screen for 9.10 uses a new backend... which doesn't allow for easy theming like previous versions
[17:58] <^icy-ice^> do you believe ubuntu is better than windows?
[17:58] <darso> oh, never mind...
[17:58] <jadakren> !troll ^icy-ice^
[17:58] <mint3> oh i see darso  and jadakren
[17:58] <om26er_> !ot | ^icy-ice^
[17:58] <blakkheim> ^icy-ice^: you're in an ubuntu channel, what answer do you expect?
[17:58] <^icy-ice^> !troll jadakren
[17:59] <mint3> How bout how to connect to my network HD  ?
[17:59] <^icy-ice^> !ot om26er_
[17:59] <ejwaxx> sorry diver: it's actually apt-cache policy $package
[17:59] <Diverdude> ejwaxx, hmm that does not seem to work
[17:59] <jadakren> mint3, depends on what sharing server it uses to expose the shares
[17:59] <om26er_> ^icy-ice^, yes?
[17:59] <^icy-ice^> om26er_: my question is actually about ubuntu
[17:59] <jadakren> mint3, do you know the lan ip of the drive ?
[17:59] <mint3> jadakren,  and how do i figure that out ?
[17:59] <mint3> yes i do yep
[18:00] <mint3> I dont want to access it via web however
[18:00] <purpzey> jadakren: Is there a way to kill the process manually, e.g. by terminal, that will ensure it gets killed?
[18:00] <IdleOne> ^icy-ice^: it is about ubuntu but not support related.
[18:00] <mint3> was hoping i could drop a link on the desktop instead if possible
[18:00] <blakkheim> purpzey: killall -9 processname
[18:00] <jadakren> mint3, then open nautilus and enter into the location field : smb://ip-address-of-your-network-drive
[18:00] <guntbert> purpzey: you see the ID in the line of that setiathome app? open a terminal and type sudo kill KILL <ID>
[18:00] <^icy-ice^> IdleOne: ok, where can it be asked, then?
[18:00] <trism> purpzey: the other one appears to be related to milkyway@home (was just curious)
[18:00] <JohnnyDoe> przemo_one, hey now i get, GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[18:00] <IdleOne> ^icy-ice^: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:00] <^icy-ice^> thank you, IdleOne
[18:00] <purpzey> trism: Thanks. guntbert: Let me give that a shot.
[18:01] <jadakren> mint3, once you have that open in nautilus you can bookmark it, it should then show up on the desktop when you are connecting to it.
[18:01] <mint3> oh i see
[18:01] <mint3> let me try jadakren
[18:01] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe ok, no solution for that. mince crashes :) but. one moment...
[18:01]  * om26er__ got DC
[18:01] <danny> whats the best way to get a ati card to run on ubuntu 9.10
[18:01] <jadakren> mint3, so for example if my network-drive was at 192.168.0.20, then i would put smb://192.168.0.20 into the location field of nautilus.
[18:02] <purpzey> guntbert: The processes do kill, but as soon as they are gone they reappear with a new ID.
[18:02] <mragab> hello, can some one help me mount my raid system
[18:03] <jadakren> mint3, if you have not attempted to share folders from ubuntu yet then i suggest you first right click on any folder and select the properties option then the sharing tab, attempting to share the folder will install the nessecary software to enable windows network sharing.
[18:03] <arand> purpzey: If you want to get rid of the setiathome, I guess you should uninstall it rather...
[18:03] <guntbert> purpzey: you seem to have installed something - do you remember what it was?
[18:03] <mint3> hmm
[18:03] <ejwaxx> purpzey: you're running boinc, right?
[18:03] <purpzey> guntbert: boinc/setiathome/milkway. I am happy to get rid of it.
[18:03] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe i tell you the trick i use. first go with browser on youtube. play the file, or pause. then go to /tmp (directory on your drive). there will be file FlashSOMETHING. this is your file. copy/move and play with totem
[18:04] <purpzey> ejwaxx: I do have it, I didn't think it was running, but if it's eating my process I'd like to get rid of it.
[18:04] <guntbert> purpzey: how did you install it?
[18:04] <jadakren> mint3, do you know if you already have the samba client installed  ?
[18:04] <mint3> jadakren,  i do think so
[18:04] <purpzey> guntbert: I don't remember. Let me check my synaptic.
[18:04] <ejwaxx> purpzey: go to terminal and enter "sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client stop"
[18:04] <mint3> but hang on a second jadakren . if it is a network drive shouldnt it show up in network ?
[18:04] <om26er__> JohnnyDoe, you can also use minitube(app) to watch youtube
[18:04] <purpzey> ejwaxx: Ok.
[18:04] <mint3> i mean its only plugged to my router
[18:04] <mint3> and am on wireless right now
[18:04] <pjotter> Hello. Anyone here that have photoshop installed under wine?
[18:05] <jadakren> mint3, possibly
[18:05] <guntbert> purpzey: if it was via synaptic then its easy to uninstall from there
[18:05] <bullgard> Where hast Sancho gone? http://www.itu.int/sancho/
[18:05] <mint3> its a WD
[18:05] <danny> whats the best way to get a ati card to run on ubuntu 9.10
[18:05] <mint3> I mean i am trying to config it so that when i am away on my trips , i can still log on to my network Drive
[18:05] <mint3> Aint that possible jadakren ?
[18:06] <om26er__> danny, just install the driver if required i guess
[18:06] <jadakren> mint3, you first need to be sure you have samba installed. 1) open a terminal 2) type smbclient 3) if it is installed it will give some relevant output
[18:06] <przemo_one> mint3 use synaptic and search for smb something packages. for kde there is smb4k very usefull
[18:06] <przemo_one> mint3 you can get ip of your share using smbtree command
[18:06] <danny> om2 well the i guess part doesnt seem to work
[18:06] <danny> om26er_, the just install the driver part doesnt work
[18:07] <mint3> jadakren,  it gives me relevent output yes
[18:07] <fireboy> ciao
[18:07] <arand> purpzey: relevant packages would be named boinc-*something
[18:07] <jadakren> mint3, and is your net-drive listed in that output ?
[18:07] <mragab> is there anyone in this planet who can help me, no seriously, its simple but hard for me so pliz help, how to mount a dummy raid configuration on startup and enable read/write for all users
[18:07] <purpzey> arand, ejwaxx: Eureka! The fan slowed down immediately. The processor has stopped running like crazy etc. I am going to try to delete the package now.
[18:08] <jadakren> mint3, try smbclient -L
[18:08] <mint3> ok let me type that
[18:08] <_cb> Lost sound. On Volume Control I can see Totem Movie player and the bars moving. Changing selections does not help. Have volume to the max in Movie Player. Any ideas?
[18:08] <mint3> just gives me the help thing, jadakren .
[18:08] <jadakren> mint3, brb rebooting to linux
[18:08] <mint3> ok jadakren .
[18:08] <mint3> Ta
[18:09] <ejwaxx> purpzey: you should be able to do that from synaptic easily
[18:09] <danny> any ideas on how to install a ati 9550 in ubuntu 9.10 ??
[18:09] <przemo_one> mragab use google. you have to edit file /etc/fstab. as for ride - no experience.
[18:09] <alazyworkaholic> I need to transcribe a lot of audio. Does anyone know of a way to get a linux audio player to replay slowly so that I don't have to keep pressing play/pause?
[18:09] <przemo_one> danny yeas use fglrx
[18:10] <mint3> i am using 9.10. although jaunty werent too shabby either i must say
[18:10] <danny> przemo_one,  where do i get that ? and how do i install it ?
[18:10] <purpzey> ejwaxx, arand: Ok, I removed the packages. Thank you very much for your help my computer no longer sounds like it's about to lift-off!
[18:10] <mint3> Still trying to see the difference actually
[18:10] <mragab> przemo_one, i woudnt be here if i cudnt find a solution, im really suffering for 4 hours now, assist me pliz
[18:10] <militant> alazyworkaholic, use VLC and there's an option to slow down playback
[18:10] <alazyworkaholic> militant: didn't know about that. Thank you! :D
[18:10] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe my totem does support youtube. enable youtube plugin :) nice
[18:10] <militant> alazyworkaholic, there's probably similar options in .... nvm
[18:11] <mint3> totem is cool, JohnnyDoe
[18:11] <rmrfslash_> The date on my ubuntu server is very wrong.... how can I make it so that the date command reflects the real date/time. Is there a command to sync the time with the ntp server?
[18:11] <przemo_one> danny fglrx is a ati original driver. the one which comes with ubuntu works fine for me. there is fglrx in repository. run synaptic
[18:11] <bryanl> what is the bind server everyone is using these days?  or what does ubuntu suggest?
[18:11] <przemo_one> mragab run gedit /etc/fstab
[18:11] <rmrfslash_> danny: I'm feel sorry for you. I too have ATI.
[18:11] <arand> purpzey: these "using idle processor power to help a global computing thingy" (e.g. folding/seti@home) does tend to use the processors to max if nothing else is, meaning computer will run closer to max constantly, good on computers where sound and power usage is irrelevant, worse otherwise (e.g. might not be a good idea on a laptop)
[18:12] <littlewookie> hey you know a dlc decrypter which runs with linux? ( except jd i need the links )
[18:12] <mragab> przemo_one, then?
[18:12] <mint3> jadakren, u back yet ?
[18:12] <airtonix> mint3, yes, its me here
[18:12] <guntbert> rmrfslash: see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[18:12] <purpzey> arand: I wouldn't mind b/c the computer is idle most of the time. . .It's a desktop with a good amount of processing power, but the thing was so loud it was just intolerable.
[18:12] <danny> rmrfslash, yeah i know the feeling
[18:12] <mint3> hi airtonix  welcome back
[18:13] <airtonix> mint3, smbclient -L gives no output ?
[18:13] <przemo_one> mragab you know whats inside :) sorry i'm in mood for jokes. that's the file responsible for your mounts
[18:13] <danny> przemo_one, what the exact file name in synamtic
[18:13] <mint3> airstrike,  it gives me stuffs bout what options to use
[18:13] <cgroza_> hello...i have 2 swap partitions.... its better to have one big swap partition then 2 smaller swap partitions?
[18:13] <mint3> doesnt do more
[18:13] <patdk-wk> cgroza_, no idea
[18:14] <mragab> przemo_one, lool i rely need to solve this, we'll joke later xD
[18:14] <cgroza_> :D
[18:14] <patdk-wk> but if you want to hibernate, you will need one that is atleast as large as your ram
[18:14] <przemo_one> danny sorry synaptic
[18:14] <mragab> przemo_one, # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[18:14] <mragab> #
[18:14] <mragab> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[18:14] <mragab> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[18:14] <mragab> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[18:14] <mragab> #
[18:14] <FloodBot3> mragab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <erUSUL> cgroza_: if they are in two different disks is better to have two paritions. you set them with the same prio and the kernel does raid0 with them and is faster
[18:14] <airtonix> mint3, ok try this : smbclient -L ip-address (replace "ip-address" with the ip address of your netdrive)
[18:14] <danny> przemo_one,  yeah i have bad spelling too ... whats the file name ?
[18:14] <mint3> airtonix,  is the ip like 192.168. etc ?
[18:14] <mint3> or my actually ip ?
[18:15] <cgroza_> erUSUL: wall i have just one disk
[18:15] <przemo_one> danny its a program. package manager
[18:15] <erUSUL> cgroza_: then the one bigger parition is better
[18:15] <jadakren> mint3, correct, it should then ask for a password... just try first ignoring that and press enter when it does
[18:15] <mragab> przemo_one, http://pastebay.com/80922
[18:15] <przemo_one> mragab ok let me think. whats the name of your drive /dev/what?
[18:15] <mint3> ok let me try
[18:15] <jadakren> mint3, the ip of your network-drive not your computer
[18:15] <przemo_one> mragab ??
[18:15] <mint3> you mean internet ip right?
[18:15] <mragab> przemo_one, http://pastebay.com/80922
[18:15] <cgroza_> erUSUL.what happens if i delte the 2 partions and format then as swap line one...the system will boot?
[18:16] <mragab> przemo_one, it is /dev/mapper/isw_ciagbcidbg_vMachines1
[18:16] <cgroza_> like****
[18:16] <shawncm217> I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed in VirtualBox. Ubuntu will not remember my preferred screen resolution. I've tried Googling for how to set the default resolution. Everything says to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I do not have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. How do I set my desired default resolution manually?
[18:16] <jadakren> mint3, no i mean the lan ip (actually i just tested it and you need to use the ip of your computer not the drive )
[18:16] <erUSUL> cgroza_: can you rephrase?
[18:16] <mint3> ok
[18:16] <benste> need help connecting a CRT TV to my Vaio laptop using S-video on a gforce 7600go - nvidia-settings doesn't find the CRT
[18:16] <mint3> i did /dns mynickname
[18:16] <rmrfslash> guntbert: thanks
[18:17] <mint3> then did smbclient -L 86.16.91.185
[18:17] <ilovealcoa> help!  when trying to make ubuntu live cd, i get an error when attempting to create an iso image: something to the effect of "genisoimage: can't find boot directory isolinux", despite the fact that the directory isolinux exists and is nonempty!
[18:17] <mint3> and it asked me for a password
[18:17] <guntbert> shawncm217: if you installed GuestAdditions in the guest you can always change the size of the whole window with your mouse
[18:17] <cgroza_> erUSUL.what happens if i delete the 2 partions and format then as swap as  one...the system will boot?
[18:17] <rmrfslash> danny: don't you get the feeling that getting a machine w/ ATI was the worst decision you ever made
[18:17] <dag_> danny: fglrx-modaliases; fglrx-kernel-source; fglrx-amdcccle or thomething like that
[18:17] <przemo_one> mragab no idea
[18:17] <jadakren> mint3, that ip is your internal network ip it looks like a wan ip
[18:17] <guntbert> rmrfslash: you're welcome :-)
[18:17] <mragab> hmmn
[18:17] <rmrfslash> danny: yet, ATI is the only manufacturer who releases their board specifications to the OS community
[18:17] <mint3> Connection to 86.16.91.185 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[18:18] <mragab> i give up on ubuntu, xchat, raid, and my annoying desktop
[18:18] <mint3> ok gotcha jadakren , let me try again
[18:18] <jadakren> mint3, common lan ips start with 192.168.*.* or 10.1.*.*
[18:18] <przemo_one> mragab got it
[18:18] <erUSUL> cgroza_: yes the system will work without swap. but after you do thtr changes you can update fstab before reboot (you do not need to reboot)
[18:18] <mragab> ok dont give up =D
[18:18] <bullgard> I have filled in the form http://gmane.org/subscribe.php for Mailing list email address=ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com and sent it. Will I get a confirmation from gmane.org?
[18:18] <shawncm217> guntbert: I did install Guest Additions, but I want it to remember my preferred resolution and start up that way.
[18:18] <ikonia> bullgard: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[18:18] <cgroza_> erUSUL, ok i will try... thanks for help
[18:18] <mint3> jadakren,  yep
[18:18] <mint3> jadakren,  works this time
[18:19] <mint3> now what jadakren  ?
[18:19] <jadakren> mint3, and does it look like your network drive is listed there ?
[18:19] <isolat3dsh33p> IIS
[18:19] <ae86-drifter> i need to downgrade libpoppler5 (0.12.0-0ubuntu2.1) to libpoppler5 (0.11.0-0ubuntu2.1), could someone please help
[18:19] <bullgard> ikonia: Read my message again. You will find the word "ubuntu" in it.
[18:19] <mint3> yep looks like it jadakren
[18:19] <ikonia> bullgard: the word ubuntu does not mean it is anything to do with ubuntu
[18:19] <guntbert> shawncm217: play with the 4 display options in the file menu - better support in #vbox
[18:19] <przemo_one> mragab are there any options provided?
[18:20] <ikonia> bullgard: this channel does not support gmane.org - gmane.org is nothing to do wtih ubuntu
[18:20] <ae86-drifter> bullgard, thats pretty funny
[18:20] <mint3> jadakren,  looks like its there
[18:20] <JonhVarner> in if command in shell how can I check whether a file with specific extension exist or not
[18:20] <jadakren> mint3, ok so then (normally) it should also be listed in nautilus filemanager when you go to the location network://
[18:20] <mint3> how/where do i type it jadakren  ?
[18:20] <przemo_one> mragab can you mount it? i bet you can but with root's password
[18:20] <mint3> i mean i opened "computer" cant find the adress bar to type it
[18:20] <bullgard> ae86-drifter: What is pretty funny?
[18:21] <ae86-drifter> you
[18:21] <Pcyho> whenever i use screen i have to do CTRL-A ':multiuser' CTRL-A ':acladd user'  how do i set it to automatically run those commands when i run screen?
[18:21] <bullgard> ae86-drifter: Can you elaborate.
[18:21] <jadakren> mint3, if you open nautilus (your file manager : places menu up the top of the screen) and press ctrl + L to focus on the location field you can type it there
[18:21] <przemo_one> JohnnyDoe all these years with browsing youtube with firefox, and totem was just there :)
[18:21] <ae86-drifter> no
[18:21] <GuitarInc1> anyone run 64-bit ubuntu with only 2 gigs of RAM?  If so, what's your highest experienced RAM usage?
[18:21] <ae86-drifter> GuitarInc1, im running it with one gig
[18:21] <shawncm217> guntbert: The lack of a xorg.conf file seems like an Ubuntu, or specifically, an Ubuntu documentation issue.
[18:21] <danny> rmrfslash, dag_ yeah ati isnt the best driver i could ever have ... but once i install those will that be it .. or will i have to configure it ?
[18:22] <Feadurn> bonsoir à tois
[18:22] <Feadurn> *tous
[18:22] <jadakren> mint3, alternatively , left clicking on blank spot on the desktop and pressing ctrl + L should also bring a location field to let you open at a certain place
[18:22] <alexsander> GuitarInc1, i'm running with 8 gigs
[18:22] <mragab> przemo_one, obv there are no options, but when i put default, i get errors : <mragab> em i get error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/isw_ciagbcidbg_vMachines1, <mragab>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error <mragab>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try <mragab>        dmesg | tail  or so
[18:22] <GuitarInc1> ae86-drifter: system runs okay?
[18:22] <ae86-drifter> GuitarInc1, runs fine
[18:22] <mint3> yep got the location field jadakren . now what ?
[18:22] <mint3> smb://ip ?
[18:22] <GuitarInc1> ae86-drifter: what kind of computing do you generally do?
[18:22] <ae86-drifter> GuitarInc1, 256MB is the minimum i think
[18:22] <ilovealcoa> help!  when trying to make ubuntu live cd, i get an error when attempting to create an iso image: something to the effect of "genisoimage: can't find boot directory isolinux", despite the fact that the directory isolinux exists and is nonempty!  what to do?
[18:23] <jadakren> mint3, should type : network://
[18:23] <ae86-drifter> GuitarInc1, programming
[18:23] <Psych0> whenever i use screen i have to do CTRL-A ':multiuser' CTRL-A ':acladd user'  how do i set it to automatically run those commands when i run screen?
[18:23] <dag_> GuitarInc1: 8go ubuntustudio 9.10 64bits run goood
[18:23] <teddymills> if you want to compile and install tar.gz packages on ubuntu..you need to apt-get install build-essentials...is that it?
[18:23] <przemo_one> mragab put auto,user,exec and change 0 2 to 0 1
[18:23] <mint3> then ? What ip do i type jadakren  ?
[18:23] <ikonia> teddymills: it depends on the package dependencies
[18:23] <ikonia> teddymills: what are you trying to build ?
[18:23] <GuitarInc1> ae86-drifter: any OpenGL work?
[18:23] <jadakren> mint3, nothing its a general view for all network protocols...
[18:24] <mint3> ok ill just type network:// then
[18:24] <dag_> danny: i don't know don'''t have ati card,
[18:24] <ae86-drifter> GuitarInc1, i have onboard graphics on it and it runs all the desktop effects smoothly
[18:24] <mint3> yep i see it there jadakren
[18:24] <jadakren> mint3, if you know the name or ip address of the network drive you can get there directly by typing : smb://ip-address
[18:24] <mint3> jadakren,  i see MYBOOK
[18:24] <teddymills> there are 40 million tar.gz packages..not sure yet
[18:24] <guntbert> shawncm217: I guess its a consequence of using the newest X version - not really an ubuntu issue per se - but I didn't want to get rid of you anyway - just pointed to a better source of info
[18:24] <danny> rmrfslash,  any ideas ?
[18:24] <jadakren> mint3, try opening mybook
[18:24] <ae86-drifter> i was running 9.10 with 512MB for a while no problem
[18:25] <jadakren> mint3, or you can use this location : smb://MYBOOK
[18:25] <ikonia> teddymills: so each one will have different dependencies, however if you look in ubuntu's package manager you'll find most of them are already build to for you to use
[18:25] <mint3> it says "opening my book - you can stop this operation by clickin cancel"
[18:25] <rmrfslash> danny: the proprietary ATI driver sucks. Good luck with desktop effects. Good like resuming from suspend/sleep, good luck w/ dual displays.
[18:25] <mragab> przemo_one, same error, i updated the kernel so as far as i know i need to reconfigure somehow  the dmraid
[18:25] <jadakren> mint3, do you know the ip address of the drive instead ? (it's sometimes faster)
[18:25] <mint3> then it says "unable to mount location - failed to retrieve share list from server"
[18:25] <minimec> danny: THat's a rather ol ati, isn't it?
[18:26] <danny> rmrfslash,  yeah i understand that now ...
[18:26] <mint3> yep i do, jadakren  its 192.168.2.3
[18:26] <rmrfslash> danny: having said that, the open source driver (called radeonhd or something) is actually ok... but they're so far behind. I don't even think they have hardware accel working so all desktop effects must be rendered entirely through software.
[18:26] <danny> minimec,  its a 9550 ati
[18:26] <kishore> !vim
[18:26] <jadakren> mint3, then in the location field try using : smb://192.168.2.3
[18:26] <P-Nuts> Hello, how can I block certain packages from a PPA?  I added the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA to play with firefox-3.7, but it's upgraded my firefox-3.5 as well.  I want to revent APT from seeing the firefox-3.5 packages in the PPA without having to remove the PPA entirely.
[18:26] <ae86-drifter> i have a radeon 3200 in my laptop and i can hook up dual screens/ effects no probs with prop drivers
[18:26] <przemo_one> mragab stupid question but do you save the fstab after modification? are you editing file as root?
[18:27] <mint3> oh
[18:27] <mint3> im in jadakren
[18:27] <mwlang> is anyone familiar with FTP-SSL (not FTP over SSH, a.k.a. sftp).  I am looking for a ubuntu command line client to connect WS_FTP server that wants an SSL authentication...I have encountered a few references to using ftps.  Any idea what package provides ftps?
[18:27] <przemo_one> mragab how do you mount?
[18:27] <rmrfslash> all in all, ATI is a complete disaster on Linux. Nvidia does a great job.
[18:27] <mragab> przemo_one, shaha yes i did, sudo mount -a
[18:27] <minimec> danny: Radeon 9550, I guess... 'Mobility' or not? AGP SLot?
[18:27] <jadakren> mint3, you should see it on the desktop
[18:27] <mint3> jadakren, how can i just put a link on my desktop so that it goes there
[18:27] <rmrfslash> I have a mobility
[18:27] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, if you want the changed to take effect, then YES you WILL have to save it.... :)
[18:27] <rmrfslash> radeonhd 3670
[18:27] <danny> minimec, 9550 agp card
[18:27] <mint3> jadakren,  it doesnt show on desktop
[18:27] <ikonia> mwlang: sftp should actually work for you
[18:28] <jadakren> mint3, ah yes i forgot... open a folder you see in that location
[18:28] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter any suggestions whats wrong?
[18:28] <mint3> jadakren,  any folder ?
[18:28] <mwlang> ikonia: I've been futzing with sftp for a bit now....any idea how to make it work?
[18:28] <ikonia> mwlang: depends what problem you're having
[18:28] <Hilikus> what's the channel for packaging questions
[18:28] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, there is a GUI for editing fstab, maybe you should use it ;)
[18:28] <przemo_one> mragab so you cant mount that volume at all
[18:28] <erUSUL> mwlang: try lftp
[18:29] <minimec> danny: OK. Your card works best with the default OpenSource Driver. As you are using 9.10 Karmic, you can enable 'kms' for the ATI card. That should give you better compiz integration ...
[18:29] <przemo_one> mragab you should know, that your old kernel is stil there
[18:29] <_akahige_> I just ran through this morning's repo updates -- new kernel, etc. -- and my pulse audio is completely dead. can anyone help me TS it and get it back?
[18:29] <jadakren> mint3, the folder you open will "mount" it and mounted places or devices are shown on the desktop (i don't think you can place shortcuts to smb computers on the desktop only the shared folders that provide if you first mount them )
[18:29] <mwlang> ikonia: when I make a connection with sftp, it just sits there until connection is eventually reset by peer.
[18:29] <danny> minimec,  ok , how do i use that ?
[18:29] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter never use gui  :) i'm not the one with problem, what's the gui name btw?
[18:29] <ikonia> mwlang: do you get any prompt ?
[18:29] <mwlang> erUSUL: what package provides lftp?
[18:29] <mwlang> ikonia: none.
[18:29] <mragab> przemo_one, no i cannot, but the funny thing, when i go to gparted it can actually read the used space and free space so the radi system is fine, its just the mount know-how  =S
[18:29] <danny> minimec,  where would i find the kms thing
[18:30] <minimec> danny: one moment please...
[18:30] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, i'm not sure, cant remember the name of it, but if you search GUI fastab in synaptic it should come up
[18:30] <mwlang> I get one with ftp.  enter login credentials and server response that its a non-ssl session at that point.
[18:30] <ikonia> mwlang: just to be clear are you talking about ssl certificate chains, or ssl encyrption
[18:30] <_cb> Ubuntu 9.10. Lost sound. Suspect it is volume or system is muted. Is there a place, other than volume control, to manage volume?
[18:30] <jadakren> mint3, but you can bookmark the smb://192.168.2.3 location and it will show up in the places pane of nautilus and the places menu on your panel
[18:30] <mragab> przemo_one, is there a way to configure everything with dmraid from the start
[18:30] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, ive never used it myself
[18:30] <xim_> is there a command to see the size of my entire filesystem?
[18:30] <mint3> ok jadakren
[18:30] <mint3> jadakren, , another thing
[18:30] <ikonia> xim_: df -h /filesystem
[18:30] <mwlang> ikonia: simple encrypted ftp...what wikipedia calls FTP-SSL protocol.
[18:30] <przemo_one> mragab i understand that it's ext4 fs formated
[18:30] <mint3> imagine am not on the network , in a different country how do i access it ?
[18:30] <xim_> ikonia, thku
[18:30] <mint3> jadakren,
[18:31] <mragab> przemo_one, yes it is
[18:31] <ikonia> mwlang: so that should be sftp - no problem with that
[18:31] <Hilikus> _cb: alsamixer
[18:31] <ikonia> mwlang: I'm just reading ipswitches site now
[18:31] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter thanks for reomendation than
[18:31] <jesperv> Hi, when doing a normal desktop install of ubuntu 9.10 and booting in to recovery mode, what kind of power management policy is applied?
[18:31] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter thanks for recomendation
[18:31] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, np\
[18:31] <jadakren> mint3, yes ?
[18:31] <xim_> ikonia, actually, that only shows /dev/sda1, i was hoping for the sum of all partitions mounted in the tree under /
[18:32] <minimec> danny: Follow that. I wrote this as bug comment for my ati Radeon 9600 mobility. https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/413259/comments/30
[18:32] <ikonia> xim_: df -h
[18:32] <mint3> jadakren, , how will i access it from a different place/country?
[18:32] <przemo_one> mragab try mount /dev/yourpartition /mnt/somelocaion and tell us what it says
[18:32] <mwlang> ikonia: I'm inquiring with the folks hosting the ws_ftp server to find out what version they're using to see if they can turn on FTP over SSH support (which would be ideal for me)
[18:32] <xim_> ikonia, thatll work thanks
[18:32] <ikonia> xim_: or du -h shows you how much is used
[18:32] <xim_> i see
[18:32] <mwlang> but I get the feeling I went right over their head (based on their response)
[18:32] <mint3> i mean am in uk right now. imagine i go to japan with my laptop. what will i type to access my network drive ?
[18:32] <minimec> danny: First try, without forcing the card in pci mode.
[18:33] <ae86-drifter> mint3, u need to have a static ip address and porward thw ports on your router
[18:33] <mint3> I dont have static ip though. i have dynamic ip ?
[18:33] <jadakren> mint3, will you be using ubuntu to do this when you are away from home ?
[18:33] <mint3> yes i will, ill be using this laptop
[18:33] <mint3> which is 9.10 right now
[18:33] <ae86-drifter> mint3, well goto dyndns.org
[18:33] <ikonia> !info xchat
[18:33] <jadakren> mint3, ok while i dig up the tutorial, go and register an account at dyndns.org
[18:33] <mragab> przemo_one, same error as before : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/isw_ciagbcidbg_vMachines1,      missing codepage or helper program, or other error      In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try      dmesg | tail  or so
[18:34] <mint3> okat
[18:34] <mint3> okay
[18:34] <przemo_one> mragab paste output o dmesg but not here :)
[18:35] <minimec> danny: Only use the line 'options radeon modeset=1' https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/413259/comments/30
[18:35] <Belboz99> Hey all, need help getting an atheros wireless card working in master mode on the 2.6.31-16 kernel on Ubuntu 9.10 (64) any takers?
[18:35] <mwlang> ikonia: my research tells me sftp != ftps  (wikipedia distinguishes between the two as (SSH over FTP) and (FTP over SSL).
[18:35] <_UsUrPeR_> hey guys
[18:35] <genii> jesperv: acpi isn't run at init level 1  .. less /etc/init/acpid.conf   shows this
[18:35] <mint3> ok jadakren  - account created on dyndns.org
[18:35] <_UsUrPeR_> I just updated 9.04 to 9.10, and got a warning that my boot partition is full
[18:36] <_UsUrPeR_> what can I remove to make this right?
[18:36] <ikonia> mwlang: yes, they are not the same thing, sorry I wasn't arguing that, I was saying what the ipswitch site was suggesting would work
[18:36] <mwlang> ikonia: ah.  ok.  good.  we're on the same page, then.
[18:36] <mragab> przemo_one, hahaha, imagine i pasted it here =P http://pastebay.com/80928
[18:36] <mragab> 769 lines
[18:36] <mneptok> _UsUrPeR_: sudo apt-get clean
[18:36] <jadakren> mint3, there is then two ways you can do this : 1) your router has inbuilt capability to ping dyndns and update its wan ip to relate that ip with the dyndns account you make, it then needs to be able to expose the shares on the drive through the router 2) the second setup scenario (more common) has you leaving a computer running at home loaded with ubuntu which has a ssh-server enabled and accessable via port forwarding
[18:36] <jadakren> on your router
[18:36] <benste> what can I do to connect my CRT via S-video if nvidia-settings doesn't detect it ?
[18:37] <_cb> Hilikus thanks. Started Alsa mixer. Cranked everything up. Still no sound.  Headphone does not show a slide bar. Is that normal?
[18:37] <jesperv> genii: Great, thanks. I have used a ubuntu box for some python performance testing and was looking for sources of error. So guess PM is not one of them
[18:37] <_UsUrPeR_> mneptok: just tried running. It didn't change anything :/
[18:37] <mwlang> looks like lftp may just be the ticket.  exploring that now.
[18:37] <mint3> jadakren,  option 1 i think.
[18:37] <jadakren> mint3, the first scenario is nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:37] <ae86-drifter> jadakren, mint3 could then use sshfs to mount the drive remotely to his local FS
[18:37] <xim_> is there a command to compare a set of files and return if the data is all the same?
[18:37] <Belboz99> benste: are you trying to connect to a standard def TV?  there are a few options for xorg.conf that I've used on my HTPC for this purpose
[18:37] <xim_> *2 sets of files
[18:38] <mint3> jadakren,  i am on my router setup and i just noticed "DDNS"
[18:38] <ae86-drifter> mint3, you need to enter the details of your account in that section of ur router
[18:38] <przemo_one> mragab it apears that youre filesystem is corrupted
[18:39] <mint3> ok ae86-drifter
[18:39] <ae86-drifter> then forward port 22 to your PC
[18:39] <benste> Belboz99: HI, yes it's a TV which worked in 9.04 but in the latest version the CRT is not detected by nvidia-settings - which should be used if I use the nvidia driver right ?
[18:39] <mragab> the raid fs ?
[18:39] <przemo_one> mragab it cant mount
[18:39] <jadakren> mint3, sweet (you'll need that for either option) next (if you want option one) you need to work out how to expose the network drive via your modem (which is something i can't help you with)
[18:39] <mint3> hrm
[18:39] <przemo_one> mragab yes
[18:39] <mint3> damn
[18:39] <mragab> przemo_one, the raid fs ? but howcome gparted, can read the used and remaining space
[18:39] <mint3> i much appreciate your help so far anyhow. very valuable. you are a top lad !
[18:39] <jadakren> mint3, i suggest visiting your modem manufacturer forums and asking around or hunting down guides for this
[18:39] <mint3> jadakren,
[18:39] <mint3> ok i will do jadakren . great job
[18:39] <jadakren> mint3, welcome.
[18:39] <mint3> thanks
[18:40] <haven489> @lart haven489
[18:40] <benste> Belboz99: strange thing that x.org log does show nothing on pluging in the cable
[18:40] <haven489> ...
[18:40] <redarrow> can someone help me to 'install' .pem or .der Zertifikates?
[18:40] <przemo_one> mragab there might be a problem with fs, or with your kerne. you sed, that you upgreaded right? is that official upgrade?
[18:40] <mragab> przemo_one, yes it is
[18:40] <mragab> i didnt change the repos
[18:40] <Needs_Help> i want to install proftpd.  i go to synaptic package manager, but proftpd is not listed.... can someone help me with this
[18:41] <Belboz99> benste: I've found that X picks up displays best on boot time, IE, have whatever display your using already plugged in when you boot your PC
[18:41] <mragab> przemo_one, i didnt change the repos. clean install and straight update
[18:41] <przemo_one> mragab did you umount drive before unplug last time?
[18:41] <_cb> In Alsa mixer headphone does not show a sliding bar. How do I fix that?
[18:41] <ae86-drifter> hye could someone tell me why ubuntu detects my screen as a 40" ?? lol... its only 22" and its not listing correct resolutions for the screen..
[18:41] <iceroot> Needs_Help: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[18:41] <mragab> no i just shutdown normally
[18:41] <mragab> przemo_one, i just shutdown normally
[18:41] <redarrow> can someone help me to 'install' .pem or .der Zertificates?
[18:42] <przemo_one> mragab so it was working before, on old kernel. now with upgrade does not.
[18:42] <benste> Belboz99: I'll try
[18:42] <mragab> przemo_one, yes
[18:42] <przemo_one> mragab there is no problm with your fstab
[18:43] <ae86-drifter> im using onboard intel graphics, only lets me select 1024x768 when i should have 1650x1200
[18:43] <przemo_one> mragab boot in previous kernel. if it mounts then there is problem with update. maybe some raid tool requaire reconfiguration under new kernel.
[18:43] <luist> how can i change my resolution to 1600x900? my display doesnt have this option... its set to 1280x720
[18:43] <mragab> przemo_one, how can i boot the old kernel, i dont have grub,
[18:43] <mint3> cheers guys for your help
[18:43] <mint3> over and out
[18:44] <przemo_one> mragab i could tell you to fsck your partition, but if that's kernel problem, it might demage fs!
[18:44] <steveisme> hello all, i used to have windows XP & Ubuntu running on the same machine. Few days ago i reinstalled windows and now i lost the Ubuntu grub entry to boot. Some one please help me
[18:44] <przemo_one> mragab no grub? you have that countown yes?
[18:44] <tha_infamous> hey everyone i have a problem, i just instal 9.10 and i dont have a sound. any hellp
[18:44] <mragab> przemo_one, nope
[18:44] <ae86-drifter> install-grub [put drive here]
[18:45] <mragab> przemo_one, my desktop is only ubuntu, no need for grub and dual boot
[18:45] <przemo_one> mragab so what you have? lilo?
[18:45] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: is that for me?
[18:45] <ae86-drifter> windows likes to take over your computer
[18:45] <ae86-drifter> yea
[18:45] <Tayl> Is there no way to change your font colour and type within Empathy?
[18:45] <przemo_one> mragab mine too. there is grub trust me
[18:45] <mragab> przemo_one, nothing, just active partition and boot
[18:45] <blakkheim> !sound > tha_infamous
[18:46] <H4V3> So is there a way to change the ubuntu 9.10 logon screen? I am trying to get My friend to use Linux but she wont cuz she likes the look of XP so i have theme for ubuntu but no logon screen any help?
[18:46] <przemo_one> mragab pres escape and choose old kernel
[18:46] <mragab> przemo_one, it didnt install a boot manager, at least i dont see anything
[18:46] <mragab> ok ill try
[18:46] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: thanks, but i must do that from Live CD ?
[18:46] <ae86-drifter> steveisme, yes
[18:46] <przemo_one> mragab there must be :)
[18:46] <tha_infamous> blakkheim tes
[18:46] <guntbert> przemo_one: maybe <shift> and not <esc>
[18:47] <ae86-drifter> steveisme, or you could download and burn 'super grub disk' which is pretty much automatic
[18:47] <przemo_one> mragab mine shows just a countdown and then boots, but after escape there is menu. try tab
[18:47] <Guest32503> ola
[18:47] <shafu> where can I find the libtermcap.so library?
[18:47] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: is there any way to do it from inside Windows? I think i lost the Ubuntu 9.x disk :(
[18:48] <ae86-drifter> steveisme, no i dont think so, download super grub disk its only a couple  M
[18:48] <przemo_one> mragab mine says press ESC for boot menu :) there must be grub or lilo. linux does not loads by itself. other loader possible. even ms win nt loader, but grub is on clean install :)
[18:48] <ae86-drifter> MB*
[18:49] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, one more time. I just updated my 9.04 server to 9.10, and I got a warning that /boot/ is full. What can I delete in there that will free up some space? For the record, apt-get autoclean/clean has no effect
[18:49] <przemo_one> steveisme i usesystemrescuecd for restoring grub
[18:49] <mragab> przemo_one, i am rely fedup i can crash this pc into 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 peaces, i did a format, and i feel better now =], and it works now
[18:50] <luist> how can i change my resolution to 1600x900? my display doesnt have this option... its set to 1280x720
[18:50] <ZORG2> Apache2 log:  client[x.x.x.x] File does not exist /var/www/site1/40E80102102102012102012010201021020 ???? What does it mean???????
[18:50] <ZORG2> ?????
[18:50] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: thanks, trying super grub disk .. :).
[18:50] <mragab> przemo_one, but i have one problem, i can write anything to it
[18:50] <Reap> I need some help changing the ubuntu logon screen is there anything i can do? I am useing 9.10 karmac
[18:50] <ae86-drifter> _UsUrPeR_, back it up and mount /boot to another drive or make a new partition for it, a bigger one..
[18:51] <przemo_one> _UsUrPeR_ great nick. easy one. it apears that your root / or /boot partition is full
[18:51] <ZORG2> áëÿöü
[18:51] <guntbert> _UsUrPeR_: boot into the old system and show us (use !pastebin) the output of sudo ls -l /boot
[18:51] <ZORG2> åáàòü âàñ âñåõ ÑÓÊ â ðîò
[18:51] <_UsUrPeR_> don't get me wrong, it totally boots
[18:51] <przemo_one> _UsUrPeR_ tell us is /boot a separate or a dir on /
[18:51] <Reap> I need some help changing the ubuntu logon screen is there anything i can do? I am useing 9.10 karmac
[18:51] <_UsUrPeR_> boot is it's own partition
[18:51] <guntbert> _UsUrPeR_: then you can do that now too
[18:51] <przemo_one> my spelling is terrible i know
[18:51] <Wolfpack> someone here who can assist me with getting my sound back  ?
[18:51] <_UsUrPeR_> :D
[18:51] <Wolfpack> 9.10 here
[18:52]  * _UsUrPeR_ umounts boot
[18:52] <mragab> przemo_one, u r ryt i have grub, but i didnt go back to the old kernel, format did the trick -_-", but cant write to the drive
[18:52] <_UsUrPeR_> good idea all.
[18:52]  * Reap kills Logon screen
[18:52] <blakkheim> !u | mragab
[18:52] <przemo_one> _UsUrPeR_ so go there and remove an old unused kernel perhaps
[18:52] <Reap> !well fuck
[18:52] <ae86-drifter> _UsUrPeR_, yes.. but the part is too small, so u could mounnt /boot to the disk that / is on.. if u have enooguh space
[18:52] <Pici> Reap: Please watch your language here.
[18:52] <przemo_one> mragab because is read only :)
[18:52] <guntbert> !language | Reap
[18:53] <minimec> Wolfpack: Means... you had sound and now you don't? What did you change, or wken did you realize tht?
[18:53] <mragab> blakkheim, so wat do u want me 2 do =S
[18:53] <Reap> guntbert: fine
[18:53] <_UsUrPeR_> ae86-drifterI do have enough space, but my intentions were to keep it separate
[18:53] <przemo_one> mragab ok no jokes. remember what i told you about those options for fstab?
[18:53] <blakkheim> mragab: type out your words
[18:53] <Reap> i need help with changing the ubuntu 9.10 karmac logon screen
[18:53] <Tniffoc> Ok, I need a command line only distro that can run off of a live CD, unlike ubuntu server. Any suggestions?
[18:53] <Wolfpack> minimec: when i upgraded to latest version 9.10
[18:53] <ae86-drifter> _UsUrPeR_, well u will have to repartition it
[18:53] <mragab> przemo_one, ya
[18:53] <blakkheim> Tniffoc: gentoo, arch
[18:53] <mragab> przemo_one, wat about them =P
[18:53] <nasos> hello happy new year
[18:53] <Wolfpack> before sound was working
[18:53] <blakkheim> !u > mragab
[18:54] <Gamedad> < new to linux, i need help resizing the swap file on my fresh install
[18:54] <przemo_one> mragab are they in fstab?
[18:54] <Tniffoc> blakkheim: Which would run better on a low end, sort of old laptop?
[18:54] <blakkheim> Tniffoc: either one
[18:54] <przemo_one> mragab are they in fstab?
[18:54] <edlima> Hi all! Just one fast question! Can I update Ubuntu 8.04 LTS to Ubuntu 9.10 (with LTSP) without problems? If I do it the configuration files are keep?
[18:54] <nasos> i am new to xubuntu someone could help me with beryl?
[18:54] <mragab> blakkheim, ok ok ill try not 2 use shortcase
[18:54] <mragab> przemo_one, yes they are auto,user,exec
[18:54] <nero_> hi
[18:54] <lasivian> ok, I hate to ask something that sounds so silly but how do I install Java? I see a million Java packages :/
[18:54] <DasEi> edlima: y and n..
[18:55] <minimec> Wolfpack: ok. Can you open <alt>F2 gstreamer-properties and play around in the audio section? Do you get some sound with some settings?
[18:55] <przemo_one> mragab when you mount things as root they are writable by root only. if no parm added.
[18:55] <guntbert> !java | lasivian
[18:55] <ae86-drifter> edlima, you have to got 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 >9.10
[18:55] <edlima> DasEi ... rsrsrs
[18:55] <DasEi> edlima: you update one distro a time, and see :
[18:55] <przemo_one> mragab how did you mount partition?
[18:55] <DasEi> !lts
[18:55] <lasivian> thanks
[18:55] <nasos> chaos...
[18:55] <steveisme> przemo: thanks , looking at systemrescuecd now , haven't figured out how to use this to edit grub though... this tool has too many features
[18:55] <mragab> przemo_one, well it was already mounted, but usually i do mount -a
[18:56] <hunter-12> hi everyone!
[18:56] <Reap> i need help with changing the ubuntu 9.10 karmac logon screen
[18:56] <Gamedad> do i need to do a full re-install of 9.10 to resize my swap file?
[18:56] <ae86-drifter> edlima, if your /home is mounted on a seperate partition i think you can just reinstall / and keep /home.. havent done it efore though sorry
[18:56] <Wolfpack> minimec: tried alsa and pulse and automatic, no sound
[18:56] <andresmh> Update Manager is listing linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.31-17-generic, is it safe to install?
[18:56] <przemo_one> steveisme using this one you can boot to your installed linux. then you can do grub-install /dev/something
[18:56] <edlima> Wow ae86-drifter, lololo, is more easy install 9.10 without update 8.04
[18:56] <hunter-12> Gamedad, of course no
[18:56] <DasEi> edlima: sono, in one step can't upgrade lts to next lts
[18:57] <Egbert9e9> what's the executable for the keyboard layout selector tray application?
[18:57] <scott_ino2> does anyone know if dvd::rip project is dead? or what's the deal with them?
[18:57] <edlima> DasEi, I don't understud
[18:57] <DasEi> Egbert9e9: console-setup ?
[18:57] <Tniffoc> blakkheim: gentoo looks like it has a gui? Sorry. I'm new to all forms of linux except for Ubuntu.
[18:57] <usafe>  
[18:57] <mragab> przemo_one, well it was already mounted, but usually i do mount -a
[18:57] <przemo_one> steveisme that restores grub in mbr (use just device name no partition number!)
[18:57] <Wolfpack> minimec: got alsamixer and kmix and both are saying nothing is muted, don't have a modem ... who is blocking it
[18:57] <ae86-drifter> edlima, it would be alot faster and easier, less potential issues if you just do a full reinstall..
[18:57] <marcin199> hello
[18:57] <hunter-12> Gamedad, you must resize you root fs before do it
[18:58] <przemo_one> steveisme to edit grub edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:58] <minimec> Wolfpack: Look also in the device section in combination with pulseaudio. Are there some devices listed?
[18:58] <przemo_one> mragab i see you (no ref. to avatar)
[18:58] <RambutanWP> I have an XP laptop, currently running *very low* on HDD space and RAM capacity, waiting to be replaced. Very slow indeed. Is it safe/advisable to run the demo version of Ubuntu from the LiveCD? Thanks :)
[18:58] <minimec> Wolfpack: Still in gstreamer-properties...
[18:58] <Tniffoc> blakkheim: gentoo looks like it has a gui? Sorry. I'm new to all forms of linux except for Ubuntu.
[18:58] <DasEi> edlima: if you use current lts, it's hardy, dist upgrade > jaunty > ibex > karmic,  next lts is lucid in april
[18:58] <marcin199> hey, im looking for help, does anyone know how to update qt in qmake?
[18:58] <Wolfpack> minimec:  got both default and unknown
[18:58] <`mOOse`> RambutanWP: sure
[18:58] <Wolfpack> minimec: both are giving nothing
[18:58] <przemo_one> mragab umount and mount again try this one
[18:58] <blakkheim> Tniffoc: there is a gentoo livedvd with a gui or a minimal iso without one
[18:58] <mimis> is there any application where i can listen to radio online?
[18:59] <blakkheim> mimis: mplayer
[18:59] <Gamedad> hunter is red type private chat?
[18:59] <nasos> can someone give a hand about beryl in xubuntu 9.10
[18:59] <FordPrefect> Hi
[18:59] <DasEi> edlima: so you will want to wait for lucid and do a fresh install , less hassle
[18:59] <mimis> blakkheim: how?
[18:59] <przemo_one> mragab or reboot what ever i'm tired, and m'm going to buy some you know food. are you english?
[18:59] <swetha> Hi, i have installed ftp server on one of my machine. When i try to upload the file, i am getting 553 error number which is error occurring for not able to upload the file. I am running the FTP Server on Ubuntu
[18:59] <mragab> przemo_one, what avatar, did you watch it, i saw it imax 3d was ****** EPIC
[18:59] <RambutanWP> `mOOse` - it won't cause some really awful system crash,t then?
[18:59] <ae86-drifter> Tniffoc, gentoo is a SRC based distro ie no packages, debs, or rpms, compile everything u want to install
[18:59] <Egbert9e9> DasEi: partly. i use wmii
[18:59] <FordPrefect> I have a problem with an installation after the installation ubuntu doesn't boot it displays a segmentation fault
[18:59] <hhlp> mimis exailes rhythmbox
[18:59] <swetha> can anyone suggest me what should i do
[18:59] <edlima> ok, ae86-drifter, I understudy, Here I have /home installed separated.  In this case I can reinstall the system keepin the home files, right?
[18:59] <przemo_one> mragab exactly that one in 3d too
[18:59] <edlima> DasEi... hmmm
[19:00] <`mOOse`> RambutanWP: of course it will - that's half the fun
[19:00] <Tayl> Is there any such thing as a picture rotator widget kind of thing for your desktop? Panel embedded or desktop displayed?
[19:00] <Tniffoc> ae86-drifter: What about arch? Does that have packages?
[19:00] <scott_ino2> edlima, yes, however you don't really need to do that anymore as you can simply keep upgrading, but you'd certainly have more options that way
[19:00] <hunter-12> FordPrefect, reinstall it
[19:00] <mragab> przemo_one,  lool, bye TC and thnx, and all the gd thought blablabla ... xD
[19:00] <minimec> Wolfpack: Ok. Now I would check the output of 'dmesg'(in a console), if you see some error output for your soundcard.
[19:00] <DasEi> edlima: you're still in hardy?
[19:00] <Gamedad> hunter12, could you walk me through that? do you have the time?
[19:00] <ae86-drifter> edlima, yes, /home SHOULD keep most of your config... but maybe you should ask someone who has done it before..
[19:00] <RambutanWP> `mOOse` Seriously?
[19:00] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[19:01] <hero1900> hi guys
[19:01] <edlima> yep! DasEi! But if you say that I have to wait the next. I will wait!
[19:01] <ae86-drifter> Tniffoc, arch is SRC based as well
[19:01] <ejwaxx> edlima: just did it the other day...when you install, set the home partition to mount as /home and you should be in good shape
[19:01] <przemo_one> mragab if you are english buy a polish a lager or beer :) if you are not buy one to :)
[19:01] <mragab> przemo_one,  will do ;-)
[19:01] <hero1900> i am confused about the role of fuse in ssh server and client
[19:01] <hero1900> ?
[19:01] <hero1900> any one can clear
[19:01] <FordPrefect> is it normal that the memory test function on the ubuntu install cd goes beyond physical memory borders?
[19:01] <blakkheim> Tniffoc: arch is not source based
[19:01] <Tniffoc> ae86-drifter: Is there any, command line only linux, that can run off of a live CD, that isn't compile ur shart based?
[19:01] <minimec> Wolfpack: Also 'lspci | grep audio' could be interesting for a google search in combination with ubuntu karmic.
[19:02] <ae86-drifter> Tniffoc, i think arch linux is the most noob-unfriendly linux distro
[19:02] <Wolfpack> minimec: ath9k: RX failed to go idle in 10 ms RXSM=0xdeadbeef
[19:02] <Wolfpack> is only error i see
[19:02] <blakkheim> ae86-drifter: arch is very easy to setup and use
[19:02] <edlima> scott_ino2, hmm, is more simple
[19:02] <Tniffoc> ae86-drifter: I'm not a noob I just don't really want to compile anything. It's a pain in my arse and a waste of time
[19:02] <ae86-drifter> blakkheim, sorry im just going from what i have heard..
[19:02] <DasEi> edlima: otherwise you have to do all distros in between one my one, much longer time then just a fresh install,  what about getting live cds (maybe in virtualbox) to get a look at neweset efforts ?
[19:02] <ilcham> hi
[19:02] <erUSUL> hero1900: fuse is only used if you "mount" ssh accessible files as virtual filesystem via sshfs. if you use plain ssh fuse has no role
[19:02] <scott_ino2> edlima, well I used to do it, but im not upgrading to any other distro, so now i just go ahead and lump everything under / and just do rolling upgrades
[19:03] <swetha> Hi, i have installed ftp server on one of my ubuntu machine. When i try to upload the file from other machine, i am getting 553 error number which is error occurring for not able to upload the file. And i also noticed its a passive FTP connection. Can anyone suggest what should i change the configuration ?
[19:03] <pawel_121> blakkheim Arch is not so easy
[19:03] <blakkheim> pawel_121: i disagree
[19:03] <scott_ino2> edlima, it certainly leaves more options open if you do /home as a separate partition
[19:03] <ilcham> halow :D
[19:03] <pawel_121> blakkheim beginiers would rather find it hard to setup
[19:03] <minimec> Wolfpack: That message is a Wireless thing...
[19:03] <przemo_one> pawel_121 hi :)
[19:03] <pawel_121> blakkheim it's simple, but not so easy ;)
[19:03] <blakkheim> pw-toxic__: the installer is very easy to navigate through
[19:03] <patdk-wk> I normally always setup /, /boot, /home as different
[19:03] <blakkheim> pawel_121: * sorry
[19:04] <Wolfpack> minimec: got a onboard wlan that should be disabled now
[19:04] <pawel_121> przemo_one hi, (czesc:>)
[19:04] <patdk-wk> for paranoid cases, /, /boot, /home, /usr, /var
[19:04] <erUSUL> !pm | hero1900
[19:04] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter thanks for that super grub disk
[19:04] <Tniffoc> blakkheim: What is the difference between " FTP ISOs" and "Core ISOs"? They're both under BitTorrent Downloads.
[19:04] <pawel_121> blakkheim yes, installer is quite easy
[19:04] <blakkheim> Tniffoc: the ftp downloads the packages online, the core has them on the cd
[19:04] <ae86-drifter> przemo_one, did it work?
[19:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:04] <blakkheim> pawel_121: so is setup and usage
[19:04] <erUSUL> hero1900: as i said sshfs via fuse let you access your ssh accesible files as it where a filesystem
[19:04] <minimec> Wolfpack: The message you sent me is a wireless thing http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1608795.html
[19:05] <erUSUL> hero1900: plain ssh client or scp is more like ftp
[19:05] <hero1900> aha
[19:05] <pawel_121> blakkheim it depends, you've got to setup daemons, sometimes modules too
[19:05] <hero1900> but secure
[19:05] <ae86-drifter> Tniffoc, i think you might want to look at live server editions
[19:05] <hero1900> encrypted
[19:05] <hero1900> but what is the power that we can gain when we use fuse
[19:05] <Wolfpack> minimec: i know but i am online now on my wireless :) (realtek pcmcia)
[19:05] <pawel_121> blakkheim however, if you configure everything it's almost as easy as others
[19:05] <przemo_one> ae86-drifter not tested, but when i'll again mess up with mi hd i'll test.
[19:05] <hero1900> i was reading in there website
[19:05] <ikonia> !skype > ikonia
[19:05] <ilcham> Antinetcut daemon is running...
[19:06] <erUSUL> hero1900: you can use scp or sshfs or even the Places>connect to Server that does something similar to sshfs
[19:06] <hero1900> aha
[19:06] <minimec> Wolfpack: So there are no error messages for your audio card? What is the output of 'lspci | grep audio'?
[19:06] <hero1900> so what about fuse i read in ubuntu magazine that client need to add the user into fuse group
[19:06] <teok28> !unr
[19:07] <ae86-drifter> i cant live without sshfs :)
[19:07] <hero1900> what is the beneift of fuse?
[19:07] <Wolfpack> minimec: nothing ... do i just copy that in terminal ?
[19:07] <FordPrefect> please help me somebody: My system doesn't run anymore (AMD Athlon 64 with upbuntu 9 x86-Version) it displays a segmentation fault after the installation the install cd boots. I tried a memory test, but it also displayed an error but strangely at 5099.4 MB but I only have 4GB installed! what does this mean?
[19:07] <ae86-drifter> FUSE is a benefit of using LINUX
[19:07] <maco> ae86-drifter: or solaris
[19:08] <`mOOse`> FordPrefect: did you md5 the iso?
[19:08] <ae86-drifter> maco, yah hehe
[19:08] <minimec> Wolfpack: without the '' you can also simply type lspci to get all the info
[19:08] <DasEi> FordPrefect: you checked the cd for defects ?
[19:09] <Younder> do any of you use awk?
[19:09] <seandiddy> FordPerfect - sounds like you need to try memory
[19:09] <Wolfpack> minimec:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[19:09] <hamzaatova2> how do i convert movies from youporn to avi???????
[19:09] <hamzaatova2> do you know why does ubuntu booted for the first time on some laptop and then sttoped booting again?????????????????????
[19:09] <Younder> or is it all perl thesa days
[19:09] <seandiddy> you can play with the bios to see if a setting changed
[19:09] <ae86-drifter> hamzaatova2, visit #youporn
[19:09] <ae86-drifter> lol
[19:09] <mkanyicy> Younder, how can we help you?
[19:09] <FordPrefect> no but I think I did a check after booting from the cd if i remember right. But I have to say that in my despration I even tried to install gentoo and also did a memtest with the gentoo media and it displayed the same error
[19:09] <maco> ae86-drifter: please dont
[19:10] <erUSUL> !info winff | hamzaatova2
[19:10] <ae86-drifter> maco, it was a joke
[19:10] <m0ar> hamzaatova2: Same as all flash videos; the plugin FlashGet for Firefox
[19:10] <m0ar> Works fine
[19:10] <hero1900> ok thx erUSUL i should google more
[19:10] <erUSUL> hero1900: no problem
[19:10] <mkanyicy> !avidemux | hamzaatova2
[19:10] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: i'm back :) I could see the grub entries but when i hit Ubuntu, the root file sytem couldn't be mounted. Damn Windows
[19:11] <hamzaatova2> erUSUL, m0ar winff and flash get and avidemux will convert the flv's???
[19:11] <Younder> my player wonrt coe up
[19:11] <mkanyicy> !avidemux2
[19:11] <Younder> my player wont come up
[19:11] <ae86-drifter> steveisme, a live cd would be helpful right now
[19:11] <m0ar> hamzaatova2: Do you know google?
[19:11] <routh> Anyone know of a way to force the video output to drop from 1080i to 1080p on the proprietary NVIDIA driver under Karmic? I'm not sure how to specify HD resolutions in xorg.conf, only normal ones...
[19:11] <mkanyicy> Younder, you are giving very little information
[19:12] <hamzaatova2> how do i use the threee programs to convert flv to avi????
[19:12] <mkanyicy> Younder, what are the error messages?
[19:12] <Younder> mkanyicy, well that's all I have at the moment
[19:12] <Younder> later...
[19:12] <ae86-drifter> routh, HD resolutions are same as normal resolutons, but always is 'p', not 'i'
[19:12] <blakkheim> hamzaatova2: use ffmpeg
[19:12] <mkanyicy> Younder, that is NOT ALL, what is the NAME of your player, how are you calling it ??
[19:13] <steveisme> ae86-drifter: yes i guess so.. Ok gotta go thanks a lot man
[19:13] <hamzaatova2> blakkheim, how???
[19:13] <DJones> Younder: also what are you trying to play, video, audio, a game?
[19:13] <wolter> hi, mi horizontal scrolling on the touchpad scrolls vertically in the computer... how do i fix that/
[19:13] <minimec> Wolfpack: Well... I would reinstall a 9.04, as it seems your card is really giving problems in karmic. Here's the link... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/89391
[19:13] <wolter> it used to work before
[19:13] <mkanyicy> hamzaatova2, sudo apt-get install avidemux
[19:13] <shawn_> How do I alter a users home directory
[19:14] <Wolfpack> minimec:  I know but i got it working thanx to the forums for 1 day :p
[19:14] <llutz> shawn_: usermod
[19:14] <Wolfpack> minimec:  can i go back to 9.04 without losing all data ?
[19:14] <ae86-drifter> routh, 1920x1080 = 1080p
[19:14] <sergeykish> Hello, how can I select video player (VLC, MPlayer, something else?) subtitles?
[19:14] <mkanyicy> shawn_, why do you want to do that?
[19:14] <shawn_> llua, Whats the option for that
[19:15] <blakkheim> sergeykish: in mplayer press "j" to cycle through subtitles
[19:15] <shawn_> MK-BB, FTP server reasns
[19:15] <llutz> shawn_: man usermod
[19:15] <blakkheim> Wolfpack: no
[19:15] <guntbert> shawn_: CLI or GUI?
[19:15] <ewsubach> how can i find which header file a function is from in the gnu c library?
[19:15] <Wolfpack> blakkheim: any chance on finding solutions for my card in future updates ?
[19:15] <mkanyicy> Younder, still alive?
[19:15] <blakkheim> Wolfpack: dunno
[19:15] <sergeykish> I mean "How can I select text using mouse in video player? Required subtitles already choosed"
[19:16] <minimec> Wolfpack: If you have a seperate /home partition, that shouldn't be a problem. I would then choose the manual partition configuration tool and AVOID to format the /home partition.
[19:16] <blakkheim> sergeykish: you mean highlight it? i don't think you can do that
[19:16] <routh> ae86-drifter, Cool man. I'll try it.. trying to fix this NVIDIA driver. It gets the speed for graphics but I can't switch users on it and everything looks .. well not very smooth in 1080i
[19:16] <minimec> Wolfpack: ... during installation...
[19:16] <sergeykish> blakkheim: I want get it in xsel
[19:16] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, you can't
[19:16] <Wolfpack> minimec: kk :) thanx
[19:17] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: maybe using another player? or patched player?
[19:17] <ewsubach> how can i find which header file a function is from in the gnu c library?
[19:17] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: I've tryied already
[19:17] <edlima> OK, scott_ino2, DasEi, ejwaxx, ae86-drifter. I was analysing your suggestions and I think I will do a little copy of my config files which are my /home, after I will install 9.04 in a VBox, copy the config files into this installation and test all. I think I will wait the 'lucid' to reinstall all system keepin /home
[19:17] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, on any player you cannot do that
[19:17] <routh> By the way, anyone know the fix for this message? - Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:17] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, show me the proof
[19:17] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: but why? Is it impossible?
[19:18] <edlima> Sorry,  scott_ino2, DasEi, ejwaxx, ae86-drifter, my english is too bad!
[19:18] <minimec> Wolfpack: Remember... You will have to assign a mount point to each partition... So the /home PArtition has to mounted as home. Other wise it will just be a non used partition, you can mount in nautilus
[19:18] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, it something like that
[19:18] <ae86-drifter> routh, sounds like you broke x11
[19:18] <Wolfpack> minimec: the opensound (OSS) anthing that might work ?
[19:18] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, you say you have done it before?
[19:18] <FordPrefect> DasEi, m00se: I think I checked the media already (from the boot menu of the cd) but I'll do it again to be sure, but please note, that I already tried to intall gentoo in my despiration and the memory test function of the install cd of gentoo also displayed an error at 5099.4 (altough I only have 4GB)
[19:18] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: I watch some movie with subtitles, and I want to select words to get it translation/meaning using dict, wikipedia, maybe google it etc
[19:18] <Wolfpack> minimec: otherwise i'll give that a go
[19:18] <mastermolch> hello, i have a problem with mounted windows network drive. i mounted it via fstab du a subfolder in /media/. I see it twice now in nautilus. One working button and one where i get a error message after some time.
[19:19] <minimec> Wolfpack: Well.. Yes but probably with some limitations...
[19:19] <mastermolch> this problem is new for me now since i use karmic
[19:19] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, i understood you clearly that's why I say you cannot do that
[19:19] <Wolfpack> minimec: its for the wife, she wants to hear sound on youtube
[19:19] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: no, I found myself retyping words in sdcv
[19:19] <Wolfpack> minimec: brb gonna try it out
[19:19] <minimec> Wolfpack: Well that could be a problem... oss and flash...
[19:20] <DasEi> FordPrefect: so also check settings of bios, and you are using a 64 bit or 386 server install, nor ?
[19:20] <routh> ae86-drifter: likely.. I just activated the NVIDIA drivers, then switched back for a bit until I had time to fix this one. The open driver doesn't get 1080i or the graphics speed, but it looks a lot better
[19:20] <mastermolch> i m not able to use it this mounted drive with songbird or easytag
[19:20] <hamzaatova2> heyyyyyy -- ive tried to use avidemux and now my videos folder is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:20] <hamzaatova2> its bakc again
[19:20] <mkanyicy> sergeykish, what about translating the whole subtitles and then synchronize them to a video ?
[19:21] <diffra_> Hi all, having an issue with 9.10.  after a couple hours, ubuntu suddenly stops responding to mouse clicks and keyboard input on my Dell Latitude D630.  Anyone know where to start tracking this down?
[19:21] <DasEi> edlima: sounds right to me, , though /home contains your user data, /etc are configs, but you can't just copy over /etc anyways, though can keep your private files (/home)
[19:21] <ae86-drifter> routh, try using a different version of the nvidia drivers
[19:21] <sergeykish> mkanyicy: It is for learning purpose, I already have translated
[19:22] <mkanyicy> but have you ever selected a subtitle word with a mouse on a video before, sergeykish ?
[19:22] <diffra_> nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/debug to indicate anything.  NOT a hardware issue, doesn't happen in XP.
[19:22] <shawn_> How can I give a user read or write writes to a folder
[19:22] <tennessean>    
[19:23] <llutz> shawn_: depends on filesystem, chown/chmod for unix-fs
[19:23] <shawn_> llutz, for example how would I give a user read and write rights for /home/shawn
[19:23] <teok28> does anyone know how to display the actual keyboard layout on UNR 9.10, could not find it
[19:23] <eZ_> Hi !
[19:24] <edlima> OK, DasEi, I understood, thanks!
[19:24] <mastermolch> does someone else use fstab mounted windows shared folders with karmic?
[19:24] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, yeah i do whats the problem?
[19:24] <llutz> shawn_: you have to do that with groups, unix-permission are very limited .
[19:24] <eZ_> I have a problem preventing mysql from starting at boot, i removed it from rc.d but it does always start. anyone have a clue?
[19:24] <JakeSully> bekks: ? das hat irgendwie nicht funktioniert ich kann mit gparted noch immer nicht auf ntfs formatieren
[19:24] <hamzaatova2> my videos foldre dis apeared from places
[19:24] <FordPrefect> DasEi: I plan to install i386 because I want to have flash I guess it wouldn't work with 64bit installations right? the bios also displays 4gb what else could it be? please note that the machine was runing with feodra 11 (i386) until Sunday then I had a problem in yum and got no sufficien support of fedora, I have the impression that redhat just uses the fedora users as beta testers, this is why I would like to switch after using fedora for maybe 8
[19:24] <FordPrefect> or 10 years
[19:24] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter i mounted it via fstab du a subfolder in /media/. I see it twice now in nautilus. One working button and one where i get a error message after some time.
[19:25] <guntbert> JakeSully: wrong window?
[19:25] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter the error msg is: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[19:25] <DasEi> FordPrefect: flash in 64 is no problem, cpu ?
[19:25] <JakeSully> Im sorry guy!
[19:26] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, sounds like maybe an NTFS/samba permission issue on the windows PC
[19:26] <Younder> mkanyicy, back. Had to get some dinner
[19:26] <DasEi> !pm | FordPrefect
[19:26] <FordPrefect> DasEi: are you sure? on fedora 11 I couldn't run it for some reason (but I tried it only on my other machine which is still on fedora 9 with 64bit)
[19:26] <eZ_> I have a problem preventing mysql from starting at boot, i removed it from rc.d but it does always start. anyone have a clue? /q me pls !
[19:27] <FordPrefect> DasEi: the CPU is a Athlon 64 dual core 2.5GB
[19:27] <DasEi> FordPrefect: for ubuntu, yes, I think my vm fedora64 runs flash too, not sure though
[19:27] <mkanyicy> Younder, why do you need to get dinner? this is foodbuntu ;)
[19:27] <Younder> going down
[19:27] <DasEi> FordPrefect: ghz, use 64 bit
[19:27] <bean> eZ_:  if you're using 9.10 it doesn't call it from rc.d. check /etc/init/
[19:27] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter hm ok, but i didnt have this problem with 9.04, another interesting point is i m not able to access this share with songbird or easytag, but amarok and nautilus work. but i dont know why i find it twice in nautilus :/
[19:27] <DasEi> !de | FordPrefect
[19:28] <andymac44> Hey everybody, about 5 minutes ago out of no where my wireless became disabled. I'm using a laptop so naturally I think its just the Fn key + F8, but thats not working, in fact the function keys dont.. so i couldn't have switched it off. I just plugged into a usb belkin wireless device and it says disabled as well. The user account has privs for wireless networks too. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:28] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, paster your fstab
[19:29] <guntbert> andymac44: wireless is often connected via usb - so you maybe turned off usb somehow?
[19:29] <mkanyicy> eZ_, bean /etc/init.d/
[19:30] <andymac44> I will investigate now with more usb devices..
[19:30] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, if you comment out the fstab entry, do you still get one in nautilus? or none?
[19:30] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m18f80698
[19:30] <exterDEI> can anyone tell me some channels for programmers?
[19:30] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter no
[19:30] <ae86-drifter> exterDEI, that depends on what language
[19:30] <FordPrefect> DasEi: sorry, I didn't know that one has to ask for the permission of private messages and I doubt, that someone here can realy follow all the messages
[19:31] <DasEi> FordPrefect: I can mostly, I get sound and highlight in messenger
[19:31] <exterDEI> c java python would be
[19:31] <Younder> mkanyicy, a reboot fixed it
[19:31] <FordPrefect> DasEi: the integrity check passed without errors
[19:32] <DasEi> FordPrefect: does the machine run a live cd without errors ?
[19:32] <FordPrefect> DasEi: btw. I already tried the 64bit installation of ubuntu, but it also doesn't boot
[19:32] <beta[a]> i hope this is the correct channel..i am running ubuntu 9.04 and have apache installed.   i run my sites from there, but i only need certain pages redirected from http to https
[19:33] <FordPrefect> yes, it looks like it works without errors
[19:33] <beta[a]> and it's a spec quest for apache
[19:33] <FordPrefect> DasEi: yes, it looks like it works without errors
[19:33] <bean> mkanyicy:  not if its an upstart script
[19:33] <guntbert> beta[a]: maybe ##httpd is better suited
[19:33] <beta[a]> alright.  thank you very much!
[19:33] <DasEi> FordPrefect: if you can boot it, have a look (from live) in /var/log/syslog to see possible problems
[19:33] <Judo_Samurai> what's the deference between ubuntu and RHEL
[19:33] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, you have three differnt mount points, which one are you referring to
[19:33] <DasEi> beta[a]: #ubuntu-server
[19:34] <guntbert> !ot | Judo_Samurai
[19:34] <g__> hi, once i've started a process like php test.php & how do i kill the process?
[19:34] <Judo_Samurai> aahhh
[19:34] <mastermolch> Lamuella and Datengrab have these problems, both are drives on the windows computer
[19:34] <beta[a]> will start there... thanks
[19:34] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter Lamuella and Datengrab have these problems, both are drives on the windows computer
[19:34] <ae86-drifter> g__, sudo kill [process id]
[19:34] <llutz> no need to sudo
[19:34] <karmst> hello
[19:34] <g__> ahh, thanks ae86-drifter
[19:35] <ae86-drifter> g__ find process id by using top
[19:35] <wind-rider> hi
[19:35] <wind-rider> i was wondering how i could configure my wacom tablet since in lucid there is no Xorg.conf to edit
[19:35] <Dan48p> do you guys know of any good articles about saving drivers and repositories to use on a clean install?
[19:35] <karmst> This is going to sound stupid but how do you find what device your DVD Writer is?
[19:35] <wind-rider> the tablet works, but I would like to set the mouse to relative mode
[19:35] <karmst> I did a dmesg | grep "LITE"
[19:35] <karmst> and it returns no results
[19:35] <llutz> karmst: most likely /dev/sr0
[19:36] <karmst> ah
[19:36] <karmst> thanks
[19:36] <karmst> but how can I find that out from a command line?
[19:36] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter oh i remember windows is doing something strange with drives, something like a unreadable share with the driveletter like §D
[19:36] <ae86-drifter> mastermolch, the same parameters for the wokring ones in fstab so i would comapre those permissions on the windows PC as you are getting a permission related error message...
[19:37] <llutz> karmst: dmesg|grep -i dvd
[19:37] <bishop> hey
[19:37] <mastermolch> ae86-drifter yes i will look it up
[19:37] <mneptok> karmst: grep sr0 /var/log/dmesg
[19:37] <xtpxxx> bonjour mon non et patrice j'ai 12 ans et je recherche de l'aide
[19:38] <guntbert> !fr  xtpxxx
[19:38] <ae86-drifter> xtpxxx, join #ubuntu-fre
[19:38] <ae86-drifter> xtpxxx, join #ubuntu-fr
[19:38] <guntbert> !fr  | xtpxxx
[19:38] <llutz> mneptok: that presumes you already know its /dev/sr0 :)
[19:38] <xtpxxx> ok merci
[19:39] <karmst> good deal
[19:39] <karmst> that worked
[19:39] <karmst> ;)
[19:39] <karmst> thanks
[19:39] <FloodBot3> karmst: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Younder> mkanyicy, seems I had a hung process
[19:39] <VCoolio> who recognizes the issue that a rmb in flash in opera 10 freezes X ? Solutions?
[19:39] <minimec> xtpxxx: ecrit juste la ligne suivant --> /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:40] <guntbert> wind-rider: lucid support in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:40] <wind-rider> guntbert: ok, thx, did not know that channel existed
[19:40] <mkanyicy> Younder, it's called a zombie process
[19:40] <guntbert> wind-rider: :)
[19:40] <mercutio42> crap I am going through hell here. My apt-get and synaptic system are broken and I had to edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and now I am out of clues. sudo dpkg --configure -a will not help
[19:40] <karmst> man I am loving Ubuntu more and more everyday
[19:41] <karmst> this thing is so much better than MS crap 7
[19:41] <mkanyicy> karmst, be considerate
[19:42] <guntbert> karmst: while we are glad that you like it we still ask you to keep to the topic of this support channel
[19:42] <karmst> ok
[19:42] <guntbert> karmst: but there is always #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:43] <mneptok> llutz: in most cases it is
[19:43] <llutz> mneptok: sure, but if you already know, you don't need to search for it
[19:44] <sudormsys32> question guys, i have a x11vnc server running on my ubuntu server (with ubuntu-desktop) and every now and then a random key will get stuck, causing me to have to restart X.  anyone have a guess as to why?
[19:45] <mneptok> llutz: you do if you want a description of the device, as karmst does
[19:45] <EsatYuce> How can i download movie as free?
[19:45] <blakkheim> EsatYuce: lol
[19:45] <CShadowRun> !piracy | EsatYuce
[19:46] <lindar> How would I go about setting Linux back to the way it was when I first installed it? I uninstalled something, I don't know what, and now my sound is messed up.
[19:46] <karmst> yes. Like I needed to know what the booktype setting was at on my DVD Burner
[19:46] <karmst> so I needed the description
[19:47]  * AnthIste would like to know if anyone can point me to a hardware support channel please
[19:47] <Younder> mkanyicy, yes, otherwise it coud have sexual connotations ;)
[19:47] <ae86-drifter> EsatYuce, you will need to purchase the DVD then rip it to your computer
[19:47] <minimec> lindar: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will reinstall missing default packages.
[19:47] <Younder> could
[19:47] <ae86-drifter> sudo apt-get install hot-babe
[19:47] <AnthIste> minimec: hijack :D, would that cause existing packages to re-download?
[19:48] <FordPrefect> DasEi: ok I checked it I couldn't find anything strange. I searched for "Error" there was nothing only a varning "ACPI incorrect checksum". Is there anything special I should look in there?
[19:48] <EsatYuce> ae86-drifter, isnt there any link for free_?
[19:48] <petsounds> EsatYuce, you can download big buck bunny and steal this film, for free ;)
[19:48] <EsatYuce> like rapidshare
[19:48] <karmst> Does anyone else have their hard drives going beserk whenever they are not in use?
[19:48] <ae86-drifter> EsatYuce, that is illegal, please do not ask
[19:48] <karmst> it sounds like it's defragging or something
[19:49] <EsatYuce> hmmm, if it is illegal, there are many forums about it,
[19:49] <lindar> Is there any way I can find out what packages came default with my build and redownload them?
[19:49] <ae86-drifter> EsatYuce, take it elsewhere this isnt #piracy
[19:49] <mkanyicy> Younder, a 'zombie process' is a well known term in linux, do you find a zombie sexy?
[19:49] <guntbert> !piracy | EsatYuce
[19:49] <minimec> AnthIste: If there are still in the cache of the harddisk no. It would use the cache package. If you want to force a new download, clear the cache with synaptic. Don't know the console command ;)
[19:49] <Younder> mkanyicy, I was thinking about hung
[19:49] <AnthIste> minimec: thanks man, bandwidth is expensive where I come from :)
[19:49] <minimec> AnthIste: np
[19:50] <ubuntu_> hi, I am about to install the nvidia driver via terminal, which package do I need to install to get all needed packages installed?
[19:50] <mkanyicy> EsatYuce, there is no open-source Hollywood
[19:50] <minimec> lindar: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will reinstall missing default packages.
[19:50] <hydrid> is there a bug with the panel bars?
[19:50] <ubuntu_> nvidia-glx-185 doesnt work and nvidia-kernel-common doesnt work
[19:50] <karmst> I installed Nvidia Source from the nvidia website for version 1.90
[19:51] <hydrid> cause they are changing place every time i reboot my karmic
[19:51] <karmst> I mean 190
[19:51] <xover> guys, i cannot ping a server unless it first pings me, why is that?
[19:51] <Younder> mkanyicy, I have been using various versions of unix/linux since 1986 and I am well versed in nix lore
[19:51] <ubuntu_> karmst that would be a solution but I am afraid to break something bznot using packages
[19:51] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu_,  xserver-xorg-video-nv
[19:51] <EsatYuce> ok then, i had better to go Windows for this
[19:52] <ubuntu_> nv or nouveau are no option for a xbmc client
[19:52] <EsatYuce> maybe there is a solve to download movie for free
[19:52] <xover> are there rules of engagement for pinging a server?
[19:52] <xover> do not ping unless pinged upon?
[19:52] <mkanyicy> Younder, daaaaamn! that's a long time!
[19:52] <karmst> ubuntu I didn't have any issues other than you have to shutdown X and install from the command line in order to get it functioning
[19:52] <bishop> leaving bbak
[19:53] <ImDaPancakeKing> Hello. Is there a way to edit a windows registry from Ubuntu which is running off of a live CD? Windows is the only operating system that is actually installed on the system's hard drive.
[19:53] <karmst> yes Xover... Range to target.... 1 ping.... nu pas ruskie...
[19:53] <guntbert> xover: no
[19:53] <xover> guntbert, any ideas why this is happening?
[19:53] <guntbert> karmst: please stay helpful - don't kid
[19:53] <DasEi> FordPrefect: could try boototion like acpi = off
[19:53] <karmst> sorry =(
[19:54] <DasEi> !bootoptions | FordPrefect
[19:54] <guntbert> xover: just one special server?
[19:54] <mkanyicy> ImDaPancakeKing, we don't do windows support
[19:54] <Diverdude> I have installed mozilla-prism.. When i convert a webpage to an application and put it on the desktop, it seems to work well. But when i start the newly created app, it just opens firefox on my standard startpage. Could i be missing something?
[19:54] <xover> gunbert, even the other pc has the same issue, it cannot contact that machine unless the target first pings it or interacts with it
[19:55] <minus> ??
[19:55] <karmst> sounds like you must have some firewall setting or network access control
[19:55] <Diverdude> karmst, me?
[19:55] <guntbert> xover: my question was: does that happen for just one server or for many - all ?
[19:55] <Pici> ImDaPancakeKing: You may be able to use regedit under Wine, but I'm not sure if their registry editor supports opening external hive files. #winehq would know better.
[19:55] <karmst> no xover
[19:56] <minimec> Diverdude: you could also try to start prism directly with <alt>F2 prism and paste the url in the config window. Maybe that works better.
[19:56] <FordPrefect> DasEi: ok I'll try. I also found an error in the meantime it displays NetworkManager: error finding the default adapter.
[19:57] <karmst> How many displays can Ubuntu use at one time?
[19:57] <xover> comptuer A and B cannot access server C unless server C first pings A or B
[19:57] <DasEi> FordPrefect: that wouldn't kill an install
[19:57] <xover> respectively gunbert
[19:57] <maximiliano> somebody speaking spanish ?
[19:57] <Pici> !es | maximiliano
[19:57] <bleepbloop> should I use one of the terminal mail apps or just download thunderbird?
[19:57] <Younder> maximiliano, try ubuntu-es
[19:58] <DasEi> FordPrefect: but if the live works and memtest throws errors, there IS something wrong, maybe check Bios for timings or use auto, also don't oc to install
[19:58] <jdolan> hi, can someone tell me where the nm-applet log file lives?
[19:58] <maximiliano> thanks everybody !
[19:58] <maximiliano> I'll try !
[19:58] <karmst> jdolan
[19:58] <karmst> locate nm-applet
[19:58] <ozzloy> crontab -e appears to be using vim.tiny.  $EDITOR and $VISUAL are not set.  update-alternatives says vim.gnome is the default editor.  any ideas on why crontab is still using vim.tiny?
[19:58] <guntbert> xover: that is clear - what I wnat to know: is that issue restricted to server C or  is it the same for other servers/hosts ?
[19:59] <guntbert> !tab | xover
[19:59] <xover> its just an issue with server C
[19:59] <jdolan> karmst: nothing that looks like a log file, unfortunately.
[19:59] <xover> guntbert, cheers man, didnt know that!
[19:59] <guntbert> xover: makes life easier :-)
[19:59] <karmst> ;(
[20:00] <xover> guntbert, why is mine finishing with a comma?
[20:00] <mercutio22> oh man ...
[20:00] <guntbert> xover: because your client is configured to to that
[20:00] <xover> guntbert, ok so back to the issue, whats the beef?
[20:01] <karmst> ok guys I'll be back. I need to call staples and find out where my return card is
[20:01] <karmst> have fun
[20:01] <karmst> exit
[20:02] <mercutio22> I lost synaptic and apt! I tried lots of resolutions.. none of them work for me. CAn someone please help me out of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/352497/
[20:02] <xover> its kinda a simple network, one pc pings another, but not unless its first been pinged, weird
[20:02] <ae86-drifter> is VNC istalled by default in ubuntu?
[20:03] <guntbert> xover: on C start sudo tcpdump icmp - then ping it from A - so you can see if the packets arrive
[20:03] <Rodensky> Hello ppl - ubuntu 9.04 - many times the sound suddenly stops working, what should I do?
[20:04] <Parsi> how to find out what partition is /dev/sda8 ? i mean, folders/files inside that
[20:04] <iceroot> Parsi: df
[20:04] <guntbert> Parsi: mount shows that
[20:04] <DasEi> Parsi: sudo fdisk -l
[20:04] <xover> guntbert, no joy
[20:04] <Parsi> DasEi: thanks
[20:04] <minimec> mercutio22: That looks odd. What kernel are you running right now?
[20:05] <guntbert> DasEi: doesn't show mount points
[20:05] <xover> guntbert, i am receiving, 'destination host unreachable' on A and C gives me nada.
[20:05] <xover> zipo
[20:05] <Rodensky> I restart my pc everytime in order to get the sound back on, untill the next time it goes off (laptop without external speakers, nothing muted)
[20:05] <rats> hello, someone who knews a tool for extractig black hole archives?
[20:05] <mkanyicy> Parsi, mount it
[20:05] <mercutio22> minimec: Linux Gir 2.6.31-15-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 14:54:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:05] <ozzloy> why is crontab -l using vim.tiny?  it's not $EDITOR or $VISUAL and update-alternatives shows the default editor is vim.gnome?!?
[20:05]  * guntbert thinks
[20:06] <Yoman> is a firewall actually necessary in linux?
[20:06] <Parsi> mkanyicy: how to mount /dev/sda8 ?
[20:06] <mkanyicy> rats, what is a black hole archive? sounds like astronomy
[20:06] <ubuntu__> Rodensky: do you have any idea what you do (open program etc...) that makes the speakers turn off?
[20:06] <mkanyicy> Parsi, man mount
[20:06] <mercutio22> minimec: The problem began by me installing linux-backports-modules, a package that would supposedly fix some of my wifi issues
[20:06] <Younder> ozzloy, I use emacs. but vim is good too
[20:06] <mkanyicy> Parsi, sudo mount /dev/sda8 mount-point
[20:06] <Rodensky> ubuntu__ - no, it happens randomly
[20:06] <mercutio22> minimec: the thing would not install properly and could not be removed
[20:06] <ae86-drifter> what port does remote desktop in 9.10 use?
[20:06] <Wolfpack> minimec: Opensound worked
[20:06] <Parsi> mkanyicy: what for mount-point?
[20:06] <Parsi> a name?
[20:07] <minimec> Wolfpack: Cool ;)
[20:07] <mkanyicy> Parsi, it's a folder name
[20:07] <Wolfpack> minimec: but ossxmix doesn't work :S so can't turn up the volume very much
[20:07] <mercutio22> minimec: so I had to remove every entry related to it on /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:07] <ozzloy> Younder, i'm trying to get crontab -l to use vim.gnome, it's using vim.tiny and i ahve no idea wy
[20:07] <sfears> Rodensky: you've tried "alsamixer" at a command prompt to make sure nothing is muted, or you use your volume control panel?
[20:07] <sven_oostenbrink> Anybody here who has experiences with dotdeb.org?
[20:07] <Parsi> mkanyicy: what should it be:(
[20:07] <mercutio22> minimec: at least that solved problems from other people at the forums
[20:07] <rats> mkanyicy, that's a good question. Years ago I thought it's a good idea to pack it in a windows environment and now my data is stuck in a black hole (by the word's meaning). All I know is that black hole (bh) has a quite good compremation algorithm
[20:07] <guntbert> xover: simple network? all IP addresses correctly set, no routing issues possible?
[20:07] <mercutio22> now I am stuck
[20:07] <Younder> ozzloy, crontab isn't used much since we now have upstart
[20:07] <mkanyicy> Parsi, try this, "mkdir ~/Desktop/mount_point && sudo mount /dev/sda8 ~/Desktop/mount_point"
[20:08] <Rodensky> sfears - i use the ctrl center -> sound
[20:08] <xover> guntbert, as soon as i pinged A from C, A immediately responded and starting ping C
[20:08] <Parsi> mkanyicy: thanks
[20:08] <minimec> mercutio22: Ok. Open Synaptic. there should a broken package (look on the left side). In fact try to uninstall that kernel package. Then you might want to disable these new backport-repos again.
[20:08] <sfears> open a terminal window.. type alsamixer and make sure things are turned up Rodensky
[20:08] <llutz> Younder: where do you see upstart replacing cron?
[20:08] <mkanyicy> Parsi, mount point can be anything you want it to be, you have to create it beforehand, mount will not create it for you.
[20:08] <xover> guntbert, they are wireless cards if that makes any difference
[20:09] <Younder> llutz, read the upstart doc's. Basically it is event triggered.
[20:09] <guntbert> xover: yes - you said so - I was merely thinking loud - wireless should make no difference
[20:09] <VCoolio> how do I use zsh automatically when opening a terminal? this very modest wish seems undocumented
[20:09] <llutz> Younder: right, and cron time-dependend
[20:09] <Younder> llutz, or ask at #upstart
[20:09] <mercutio22> minimec: the problem is I can't open synaptic. I am greeted with a message saying a package failed to install and I should run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:10] <Younder> llutz, cron is on the way out.
[20:10] <minimec> mercutio22: so open a console, do sudo dpkg --configure -a, then try to open synaptic. You did that?
[20:10] <Rodensky> sfears - done - how do i read it? i mean, i see 4 colums painted fully, 2 with 00 under them, 1 without, another 1 with 00, and for empty ones (on with MM under it, one with 00 and 2 more with MM)
[20:10] <xover> guntbert, I am stumped on this one
[20:11] <guntbert> xover: and now - how long does A get its answers from C (stopping it in the meantime), next idea after C pinged A and A can ping C, what is with B ?
[20:11] <mercutio22> minimec: yeah.. I am stuck. That won't help
[20:11] <user___> Younder, whats is cron going to be replaced with?
[20:11] <mercutio22> minimec: that leads to the error message I pasted
[20:11] <Rodensky> sfears - and above it says Item: Master [dB gain=0.00]
[20:11] <llutz> Younder: before talking about "planned features" upstart has a lot to do with basics
[20:11] <minimec> mercutio22: can you paste that one again.. the link
[20:12] <guntbert> xover: I'm just applying "standard" techniques for error shooting in networks (aka "I'm merely fishing" :-))
[20:12] <sfears> Rodensky: those are your volume levels.. if they're all painted they're all turned up.. use your arrow keys to move left and right and turn volumes up and down
[20:12] <mercutio22> minimec: sure.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/352504/
[20:12] <mkanyicy> rats, your black hole theory is more mind-boggling than astrophysics, back to little simple things, how can we help you?
[20:12] <timposey> I installed avg antivirus but it does not show up on the menu like I was told it would any suggestions?
[20:12] <mercutio22> minimec: there's something about line 11
[20:12] <FordPrefect> DasEi: what do you mean with don't oc to install? oc?
[20:13] <minimec> mercutio22: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic
[20:13] <Timon_> Hello
[20:13] <rats> mkanyicy, you think I'm joking? I'm really looking for a method to extract the black hole archive
[20:13] <DasEi> FordPrefect: overclock
[20:13] <nmvictor> Today i fixed a bug with my kannel package, something that had been dexcribed in [http://kerneltrap.com/node/17017], by some guy who found it with ubuntu 8.04, The articals author also mentioned filing a bug report on the issue, now since #kannel is as good as dead, i choose to raise my concern here because i did an apt-get to fetch a .deb of kannel from ubuntu servers, is it that the bug has been ignored since '8.04!!' or the articals
[20:13] <ailleantsian> i have a problem with my graphics and wondering if someone can help
[20:13] <nmvictor> author stumbled on a wrong bug?
[20:13] <xover> guntbert, this is the exact problem, but i dont understand why changing network managers would make a difference
[20:13] <xover> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156633
[20:13] <FordPrefect> DasEi: ah ok no I didn't change the default clocking at all
[20:13] <mercutio22> minimec: the problem is I can't use apt unless sudo dpkg --configure -a does its job. Its a catch 22
[20:13] <aoe_> oeu
[20:13] <HannibalWagner> Hi! problem with ubuntu and geforce 8400 gs. Just intalled a clean system. Update drivers, and WoW! 1280x1024 res is gone...
[20:14] <mkanyicy> rats, ok, i am clueless of black hole archives, first time i heard of that
[20:14] <Timon_> someone here who can help me to get my network usb, instead of my pci-card in ubuntu 9.4 (the one before 9.10) ?
[20:14] <sfears> ask ailleantsian
[20:14] <ozzloy> Younder, upstart doesn't yet have "Events generated at timed intervals or scheduled times"
[20:14] <ailleantsian> when i load my nvidia drivers i get a error on boot up where i get just x terminal logon and thats it, so when i install the drivers and run nvidia xconfig i get a error that says undefined device ( null ) referenced by screen default screen
[20:14] <DasEi> FordPrefect: so check mem timings in bios again ,memtest must work , else have faulty memory
[20:14] <sfears> Timon_: need more info
[20:14] <ozzloy> Younder, just so you know
[20:14] <ozzloy> also my connection is extremely laggy right now
[20:15] <Timon_> what do you need for info?
[20:15] <minimec> mercutio22: Man... I know exactly how you feel, because I had that once or twice too. That's quitet odd. sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic
[20:15] <Rodensky> sfears - the colums change, yet i can't hear anything
[20:15] <rats> mkanyicy, thank you. I found some more information of programs able to extract them under Windows, I will try to get them run with wine
[20:15] <mercutio22> minimec: some threads in the forum suggested I could just delete entries at the /var/lib/dpkg/status file... but that does not work
[20:15] <HannibalWagner> I changed manually some paremeter in xconf file, and fixed it! but every time systems restarts, it changes to 1024x768 again...
[20:15] <FordPrefect> DasEi: but why does the message display a memory address outside the 4GB window if I only have 4GB?
[20:15] <Timon_> i need to connect with the internet, with my linksys network usb, instead of my pci-card
[20:15] <mkanyicy> ls
[20:15] <sfears> ailleantsian: have you tried using envyng-qt
[20:15] <FordPrefect> DasEi: is there some kind of remapping?
[20:15] <minimec> mercutio22: try to reconfigre the package...
[20:16] <Wolfpack> brb reboot  trying with aumix now
[20:16] <sfears> Rodensky: i would say you have some programming taking control of the sound card and muting your speakers.. or you have loose wires
[20:16] <Rodensky> sfears - it has something to do with pulseaudio or something like that?
[20:16] <mercutio22> minimec: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-image-2.6.31-17-generic is broken or not fully installed
[20:16] <sfears> uninstall pulseaudio and see what happens Rodensky
[20:16] <timposey> I installed avg antivirus but it does not show up on the menu like I was told it would any suggestions?
[20:16] <sfears> or in your sound control panel make sure everything is set to alsa Rodensky
[20:16] <ailleantsian> sfears : Im just installing that now as it wasnt installed
[20:16] <Rodensky> nu loose wires - it works fine after restart (built in speakers within the laptop)
[20:17] <ozzloy> so does anyone know where crontab looks to decide which editor to use, other than $EDITOR, $VISUAL, and /usr/bin/editor ??
[20:17] <sfears> ailleantsian: you may have the wrong nvidia drivers installed.. envyng-qt makes it pretty simple to find the correct drivers
[20:17] <HannibalWagner> Nein!
[20:17] <isym> hi
[20:17] <ailleantsian> it is saying its the correct drivers
[20:17] <Rodensky> how do i reinstall alsamixer?
[20:17] <bertmeert> hi
[20:17] <isym> can i have a fast asking
[20:17] <minimec> mercutio22: I guess I cannot help you further...
[20:17] <rats> ah, when I'm already here. I have problems connecting my nokia BT Headset with my computer. It is never shown in the list of devices. Using abe US20 USB BT Dongle. Any idea how to get them paired?
[20:18] <isym> where is the
[20:18] <mercutio22> minimec: hey.. maybe dpkg can purge the thing
[20:18] <Rodensky> (btw - all is set to pulseaudio)
[20:18] <ailleantsian> sfears : it has a tick in both comp and recommended
[20:18] <isym> animation setings in ubunto 9.10
[20:18] <mercutio22> minimec: yes! dpkg has a remove flag
[20:18] <Alestan1> Hey all, quick question:  I've looked on the forums, and I see how to set up and install to a software raid, but now how to set one up for general storage.  I have two old external hard drives plugged in via usb, and I would like to set them up using raid1.  Any pointers?
[20:18] <sfears> perhaps something loaded wrong.. it usually doesn't work.. but maybe try uninstalling.. rebooting with generic drivers & reinstalling nvidia ailleantsian
[20:18] <blackxored> hello, anyone knows about a way to reset a user's password in a AD domain through the shell?
[20:18] <llutz> ozzloy: it _should_ use $EDITOR
[20:18] <minimec> mercutio22: Ok. Try that.. ;)
[20:19] <Timon_> sfears
[20:19] <ailleantsian> sfears :  i have already tryed 2 times firstly before coming here
[20:19] <HannibalWagner> Hey, do you guys have problems with sound in 9.10, i mean, low volume?
[20:19] <ozzloy> llutz, $EDITOR and $VISUAL aren't set though.  so it's getting vim.tiny from _somewhere_
[20:19] <sfears> two tics ailleantsian?? i remember only having one check
[20:19] <ozzloy> and i'd rather it get vim.gnome from _somewhere_
[20:19] <sfears> Timon_: sorry, missed your question
[20:20] <ozzloy> and /etc/alternatives/editor points at vim.gnome
[20:20] <llutz> ozzloy: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[20:20] <helmi> hello, I messed up with my partition, how to recover it?
[20:20] <llutz> ah ok
[20:20] <ozzloy> llutz, yeah, T_T
[20:20] <ozzloy> so ... w.t.f.?
[20:20] <Timon_> hmm, not really weard, you missed it, sfears
[20:20] <sfears> helmi: boot using the live cd and use the live partition manager
[20:20] <mercutio22> ohhhhhh yesssss thank you!!!
[20:20] <Timon_> sfears, i need to connect with the internet, with my linksys network usb, instead of my pci-card
[20:20] <ozzloy> i spose i _could_ set EDITOR ... i'll try that and see
[20:20] <guntbert> xover: C is OSX?
[20:20] <mercutio22> minimec: it worked!!!
[20:20] <ozzloy> but i'd rather not have to
[20:20] <helmi> I write an img file to sda instead of sdc, now my partitions are deleted
[20:20] <minimec> mercutio22: Nice!!!
[20:20] <sfears> Timon_: what version of ubuntu?
[20:21] <ozzloy> yeah, that works
[20:21] <bertmeert> anybody know where i can find channels for bloggers?
[20:21] <sfears> helmi.. sounds wrecked.. you can try with the live cd
[20:21] <minimec> mercutio22: now disable the backport sources, and do a normal update first!
[20:21] <ozzloy> but .... damnit, where does crontab look for this1?
[20:21] <bean> !ot | bertmeert
[20:21] <Rodensky> sfears - i can't uninstall pulseaudio with synaptic, it says that i have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop with it
[20:21] <bertmeert> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <coreyB> hey
[20:22] <helmi> I have important data there, can it be recovered, the gparted from live cd says that my disk is not partitioned
[20:22] <bean> hi
[20:22] <user___> how do i restart cups on karmic?
[20:22] <ozzloy> oooh, wait maybe i know
[20:22] <sfears> try from a terminal "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" and see what it says.. don't uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <minimec> mercutio22: The nyou can enable the backports again, I guess.
[20:22] <sfears> pulseaudio might be a critical process.. i'm not sure how that works Rodensky
[20:22] <HannibalWagner> YOU TALK TO ME, sfears?
[20:23] <sfears> question HannibalWagner?
[20:23] <HannibalWagner> sorry...
[20:23] <ozzloy> nope, nm.  still got no idea
[20:23] <p0a> Hello I'm trying to play an mp4 series of files. *.mp4.001 *.mp4.002 etc, unix 'file' command reports: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 1
[20:23] <guntbert> sfears: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package - nothing should get removed
[20:23] <HannibalWagner> The problem with low volume, i mean, is that the answer?
[20:23] <ailleantsian> sfears: one in each
[20:24] <bonez2046> how can I fine tune the sound on my 9.10 desktop? When I hit certain key combination I get a loud pop from my speakers.. which work fine otherwise? Suggestions?
[20:24] <HannibalWagner> i still have low volume....
[20:24] <llutz> ozzloy: do you have a file ~/.selected-editor ?
[20:24] <p0a> bonez2046: don't hit your keys they don't appreciate it, instead press them gently. :P
[20:24] <sfears> if that's the case guntbert then i'd say remove pulseaudio Rodensky
[20:24] <helmi> hannibal: low volume speaker or hd?
[20:25] <ozzloy> llutz, i'll check
[20:25] <Timon_> sfears, allright, but i have the one before 9.10, i think it's 9.4
[20:25] <Rodensky> sfears - remove along with ubuntu-desktop? "ubuntu-desktop" sound too important... :]
[20:25] <sfears> Timon_: install ndiswrapper and download the usb drivers from your usb manufacturers site and unzip them to a folder on your desktop
[20:25] <timposey> I installed avg antivirus but it does not show up on the menu like I was told it would any suggestions?
[20:26] <bonez2046> p0a: got anything else worthwhile? I mean, isn't there something to check and tune one's sound?
[20:26] <iceroot> timposey: for what you need that scanner? smba?
[20:26] <iceroot> timposey: samba?
[20:26] <ozzloy> llutz, i do!  and it's set to vim.tiny!  do i update it by editing the text file, or is there some other program to use to edit it (for instance like visudo or ... crontab -e)?
[20:26] <sfears> Rodensky: guntbert says ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package... extras & stuff.. it shouldn't be a problem.. but i'm not 100% on that
[20:26] <bean> !virus | timposey
[20:26] <llutz> ozzloy: run "select-editor"
[20:26] <guntbert> !info ubuntu-desktop | Rodensky (its only a package to pull other packages in)
[20:26] <Timon_> sfears, the drivers are only for windows
[20:26] <Younder> Timopsey: you don't need antivirus on linus
[20:26] <sfears> HannibalWagner: have your opened a terminal window and checked alsamixer?
[20:26] <ozzloy> llutz, just did!  awesome.  thanks!
[20:26] <sfears> i know Timon_.. we'll use ndiswrapper to get them to work
[20:26] <roof> guntbert, just installed wicd on that machine
[20:27] <Younder> timopsey: not yet at any rate
[20:27] <ozzloy> llutz, worked
[20:27] <timposey> iceroot it is avg for ubuntu to scan usb drives that I use with windows
[20:27] <sfears> Timon_:  "apt-get install ndiswrapper-common"
[20:27] <guntbert> roof: are you xover?
[20:27] <p0a> bonez2046: alsamixer
[20:27] <llutz> ozzloy: thank you, without your question i never would have realized that file/function :)
[20:27] <helmi> sorry, repeating my question, can I recover my deleted data from ntfs?
[20:27] <sfears> helmi: research data-mining
[20:27] <Timon_> sfears, you forgot the sudo i suppose?
[20:28] <Younder> most unix antivirus programs scan mostly windows disks. there are onlya couple of hundred of unix viruses
[20:28] <sfears> yes Timon_
[20:28] <Rodensky> sfears - i think Skype causes these problems because right now i re-opened it and i heared the loading sound when it connects, and that's the only thing i can hear right now - the Skype. is it possible that Skype is messing with my sound?
[20:28] <helmi> sfears: ok
[20:28] <bonez2046> ok.. thanks p0a
[20:28] <sfears> yup.. skype may do that
[20:28] <HannibalWagner> Sorry, i went out for a minute. helmi! yes, low volume in speakers
[20:28] <ozzloy> llutz, how did you find that?
[20:28] <sfears> perhaps try uninstalling skype instead of pulseaudio
[20:28] <gspr_> Anyone have any experience getting radeonhd with kms up and running (kernel 2.6.33)?
[20:28] <user___> can someone help me out with cups? i cant find it anywhere
[20:28] <Younder> non in common cirkulation, that I am aware
[20:28] <ozzloy> llutz, have you seen it before and not known what it was for?
[20:28] <Rodensky> sfears - and now i can hear all automated sounds that the skype makes but not the people with whom i'm trying to talk
[20:28] <sudormsys32> so i have a database, with owner admin, and i'm trying to set up other users to be able to log into it, is there a way to do this in PGadmin or should i use GRANT?
[20:28] <roof> guntbert, yeah
[20:29] <timposey> Younder, the purpose of the antivirus is to scan usb drives that I use with a windows machine
[20:29] <llutz> ozzloy: i just tried crontab -e with a fresh created account, it asked for editor and suggested select-edtor to change it later
[20:29] <minimec> gspr_: /join #ubuntu+1
[20:29] <ozzloy> Rodensky, i recently had and solved this problem.  i shall explain
[20:29] <roof> guntbert, that wicd doesnt even connect to my network
[20:29] <guntbert> roof: I'd say all changes must be made on C
[20:29] <deadant2> Anybody know how to mount a Usb Dvd Burner in ubuntu?
[20:29] <llutz> ozzloy: i never heard of it before
[20:29] <ozzloy> llutz, oic cool
[20:29] <roof> guntbert, this has progressed to face removal
[20:29] <gibby13> I have a problem with transmission, can anybody help?
[20:29] <Younder> You do need to set up a firewall however. UFW is what you want
[20:30] <roof> guntbert, yeah i am changing it on c
[20:30] <blakkheim> gibby13: #transmission
[20:30] <Younder> or iptables if you wnat to get sophisticated
[20:30] <rats> got it .. bye, bye
[20:30] <ozzloy> Rodensky, go to System -> Preferences -> Sounds -> Applications (a tab, next to "Output")
[20:30] <gibby13> blakkheim: thanks
[20:30] <roof> guntbert, is the gnome manger the best one to use for wireless?
[20:30] <sfears> yeah.. skype may have control of the sound so that nothing bleeds over.. if you can completly turn off skype i'd do that, if not uninstall skype.. if it solves the problem then you know whats up.. perhaps configure skype to use alsa?
[20:30] <user___> samba seems to have stopped working aswell as cups, maybe its a problem with all my services?
[20:30] <sfears> yeah.. skype may have control of the sound so that nothing bleeds over.. if you can completly turn off skype i'd do that, if not uninstall skype.. if it solves the problem then you know whats up.. perhaps configure skype to use alsa? Rodensky
[20:31] <newser> I have a grub error. The problem is that I installed mint in one hdd and ubuntu in a second hdd. Mint is recognized but ubuntu is not. how can I fix this, so that the second hdd is detected?
[20:31] <deadant2> Anybody able to get a usb Dvd Mounted in ubuntu
[20:31] <ozzloy> Rodensky, and there will be one for skype that is muted, scroll it up and hopefully you'll start hearing stuff.  i only had to do this once, then skype sound worked afterwards.
[20:31] <sfears> newser: you may have to add a line to your /boot/grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to point to the proper partition
[20:31] <guntbert> roof: well - I use the nm-applet - but I guess you jumped to conclusions - I hope you can recover
[20:31] <Rodensky> sfears - i have to use skype, turning it off or uninstalling it is not an option for me. how do i make skype use alsa?
[20:32] <Timon_> sfears, i've got it, and now?
[20:32] <ozzloy> Rodensky, you don't have to make skype use alsa.
[20:32] <Rodensky> ozzloy - where do i find these system prefs?
[20:32] <ozzloy> Rodensky, "System" is at the top left of the screen usually
[20:32] <ozzloy> Rodensky, next to Applications and Places
[20:33] <timposey> deadant2 not a dvd drive, I don't know why that would be different than a usb hdd but obviously it is..
[20:33] <newser> sfears, do you know how to display the partitions and hdds in grub? im currently in minimal bash
[20:33] <roof> guntbert, ah a breakthrough, since install wicd, it appears that when the card is inactive, it effectively decides to sleep, as the connect button comes up and it appears disconnected
[20:33] <sfears> Rodensky: there's a configrue skype control panel in there somehwere.. i don't use skype so i don't know
[20:33] <Rodensky> ozzloy - i have only system notifications on my gnome panel...
[20:33] <hekdahl> Anyone hwo can help me to set up my wireless on my laptop.
[20:33] <sfears> i don't think you can do it from minimal bash newser.. i'm not sure about that
[20:34] <sfears> Timon_: "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windows/driver.inf"
[20:34] <Timon_> sfears, i did the apt-get, and now?
[20:34] <ozzloy> Rodensky, do you have the sound icon?  you could right-click that and go down to "Preferences"
[20:34] <ozzloy> Rodensky, sorry, "Sound Preferences"
[20:34] <guntbert> roof: don't know if thats good or bad :-)
[20:34] <hekdahl> I doesn't work. I have tried everything.
[20:34] <Timon_> sfears, sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windows/driver.inf i get when i do that
[20:35] <deadant2> timposey, Yeah its not auto mounting any idea why?
[20:35] <hamzaatova2> why the hotmail never work with chat?????? almost always it doesnt
[20:35] <roof> guntbert, i am successfully sending packets to the AP but the wifi is showing as disconnecting all the time
[20:35] <sfears> Timon_: do you have your windows driver in a folder on your desktop
[20:35] <ozzloy> Rodensky, also, how do you not have anything in your gnome-panel other than system notifications?  did you remove everything?  you don't even have a clock?
[20:35] <Needs_Help> i setup proftpd today and it works good, but only on my lan, how can i connect to the server from outside my lan?
[20:35] <Timon_> no
[20:35] <roof> guntbert, what is the nm applet?
[20:35] <Timon_> sfears, no
[20:35] <newser> is there any livecd that can help me reinstall grub?
[20:35] <sfears> you'll need them
[20:35] <guntbert> roof: in gnoe the newtwork manager applet
[20:36] <user___> im really stuck guys, any help would be much appreciated
[20:36] <sfears> Timon_: download them and unzip them onto your desktop and then let me know
[20:36] <ozzloy> Rodensky, alternatively, you could go to terminal and type "gnome-volume-control"
[20:36] <Rodensky> ozzloy - i removed everything, all i usually need are just launchers..
[20:36] <roof> guntbert, fcking wireless
[20:36] <timposey> deadant2, I don't have a clue, There are some things that I have never been able to find out why, but that should not be that hard, what type of drive is it.
[20:36] <Rodensky> three of them, and i have them on cairo-dock, thats it
[20:37] <deadant2> timposey, Velocity Micro VM Drive 101
[20:37] <guntbert> !language | roof
[20:37] <Rodensky> anyway - i'm in volume control prefs - what's next?
[20:37] <ozzloy> Rodensky, ok, go to "Applications"
[20:37] <Timon_> sfears, i didn't change the path, so it wouldn't help ;)
[20:37] <guntbert> roof: please ask the channel again - I'm on the end of my possibilities
[20:37] <ozzloy> Rodensky, it's a tab next to "Output"
[20:37] <nightsjammies> I've got something interesting going on with my laptop. Every so often it freezes for no apparent reason. Any ideas.
[20:37] <Rodensky> i din't have such thing
[20:37] <ozzloy> Rodensky, make sure skype is running
[20:38] <sfears> Timon_: you can use your windows drivers in linux via ndiswrapper
[20:38] <nightsjammies> It forces me to completely kill all power
[20:38] <ozzloy> Rodensky, do you know what version of ubuntu you're running?
[20:38] <Rodensky> ozzloy 9.04
[20:38] <sfears> sudo ndiswrapper -i (install) /home/timon/Desktop/drivers/Lsbcmds.inf
[20:38] <ozzloy> aah, i see
[20:38] <roof> guntbert, now it can ping C, yet A cant ping C on the same segment, lol
[20:39] <roof> thats impossible
[20:39] <ozzloy> Rodensky, this might be a difference between 9.04 and 9.10 then, sorry
[20:39] <phill> anybody ever got DBDesigner4 working in Ubuntu? It's a tarball install. But I get nothing afterwards...
[20:39] <sfears> i've never heard of it phill
[20:39] <guntbert> roof: my concentration is weakening - please ask the channel again
[20:39] <FordPrefect> DasEi: in the meanwhile I installed ubuntu using the noacpi option: error still present, then I load the setup defaults of my BIOS: problem remains, then I "underclocked" my machine to 2GHz and the memory to 200MHz: problem remains
[20:39] <ozzloy> Rodensky, in 9.10, skype shows up in the list of applications currently using sound, and one of the sliders was set to 0, so i moved it to 80-ish
[20:40] <user___> nightjammies, its probably a graphics driver or gnome issue
[20:40] <Timon_> sfears, do i have to search the whole place for that .inf?
[20:40] <phill> it's open source, available on Windoze, it helps you do Entity-Relationship diagrams...
[20:40] <sfears> no Timon_.. go to the linksys website and download the drivers.. then unzip them onto a folder on your desktop and let me know
[20:40] <nightsjammies> I'm kinda thinking the same thing. It seems to only occur when I switch/ open a new window. Any ideas?
[20:40] <sfears> Timon_:  i know the website has windows drivers..that's what we will use via ndiswrapper
[20:40] <ozzloy> Rodensky, i suggest moving to 9.10.  good luck with all that.  i'm off to get lunch
[20:40] <timposey> deadant2 is it a burner ?
[20:41] <Rodensky> inside Skype i can choose a sound device but Alsa mixer is not on that list
[20:41] <Vandal> oh goodness that is a long user list
[20:41] <guntbert> !hi | Vandal
[20:41] <user___> nightsjammies, no im experiencing the same problem and am waiting for a fix. although tbh im most worried about the fact that i cant print because cups has gone awol so i cant print any invoices...
[20:41] <Timon_> sfears, is it good that i've just copied my Linksys map from windows?
[20:41] <Rodensky> ozzloy - i tried 9.10 and hated it, the sound worked but all other things did not. Bon apetit...
[20:41] <HannibalWagner> Hey, what do i need to do to mkill all ubuntu users? (answer with jokes...)
[20:42] <Guest12960> hi, I periodically get ext4-fs bad entry in directory when I try to reboot from a karmic upgrade, any idea how to diagnose this problem?
[20:42] <roof> dont take up IT, take up engineering at least it doesnt change so much, painful computers are!
[20:42] <roof> jeez
[20:42] <sfears> Timon_: linkysys map??
[20:42] <guntbert> !ot | HannibalWagner
[20:42] <nightsjammies> I don't have a printer, so I haven't run into that problem. Is there a way to a pinpoint the problem?
[20:42] <HannibalWagner> Sorry!
[20:42] <Timon_> sfears: yeah, the whole map from my program files from windows
[20:42] <ratapoil> I need to install Rhythmbox 0.12.6, I run Karmic... On the rhythmbox website I only find a .bin, don't know what to do with it... I've been searching for a repo that has it, found none... any advice?
[20:42] <sfears> if you know where the drivers are at then we can use them.. like i said.. "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/linkysys/driver.inf"
[20:43] <HannibalWagner> install banshee...
[20:43] <user___> nightsjammies, check your logs around the time the crash happens, thats in System -> Adminstration -> Log File Viewer
[20:43] <Vandal> Hi
[20:43] <roof> banshee rocks, its unreliable like everything else, but its good
[20:43] <nightsjammies> Right right. I know where that is....
[20:43] <Vandal> Gonna copy paste something small here
[20:43] <Vandal> Rosewill RNX-N100 worked out of box in ubuntu 9.04, according to an archived post on the Official ubuntu forums
[20:43] <sfears> Timon_: just download them from the manufacturers site.. otherwise map the drive and look for them.. i don't care.. i gave you the command three times now "sude ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver.inf" Timon_
[20:43] <Vandal> I just installed 9.1 and it doens't recognize my RNX
[20:44] <Vandal> this is a USB Wifi adapter
[20:44] <HannibalWagner> Hey: big question. Banshee gnomw-do plugin shows a big X when i activate it.
[20:44] <nightsjammies> Which part of the log file viewer do I look for a clue?
[20:44] <guntbert> !enter | Vandal
[20:44] <sfears> Vandal: have you booted with the usb drive in??
[20:44] <Vandal> Yes
[20:44] <roof> Vandal, good luck finding a driver
[20:44] <HannibalWagner> what can i do to make it work?
[20:44] <Vandal> That was why I came in here
[20:44] <Rodensky> What is OSS mixer? can I usr it instead of Alsa mixer?
[20:45] <Vandal> I don't really know anything about linux.. every time I try to get into it something like this happens
[20:45] <przemo_one> hi
[20:45] <roof> Vandal, anything on manufactures website?
[20:45] <user___> nightsjammies, i would check all of them as im not sure which one in particular would be a good bet
[20:45] <Vandal> It only has WIN and MAC drivers supported officially
[20:45] <sfears> i wans't able to get ndiswrapper working on 9.1.. perhaps you could give it a try with the windows drivers via ndiswrapper vandal?
[20:46] <Vandal> Does that come installed with 9.1? ndiswrapper I mean
[20:46] <sfears> maybe Vandal... "sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windows/driver.inf"
[20:46] <ratapoil> which is safer, proposed or backports?
[20:46] <newser> according to one of the online docs to restore grub, I need to find the "stage1" file. If I don't have such file, how can I reinstall grub
[20:46] <ratapoil> which has more stable versions, proposed or backports?
[20:46] <roof> why is it that drivers are not subject to the GPL?
[20:47] <Timon_> sfears, there is only 1 .inf file, so i suppose that's the one we need?
[20:47] <newser> !grub
[20:47] <FordPrefect> DasEi: do you have any idea what that means? (because the memory adress is outside 4GB) does it mean that my memory is corrupt now? but the strange thing is, that this never seemed to be a problem in the past one year in which I used the machine with fedora 10. To my humble knowlege it looks like something was changed in the kernel which also is involved because now all new linux versions cant be installed anymore (including fedora 11)
[20:47] <sfears> Timon_: what's the name of it?
[20:47] <guntbert> ratapoil: avoid proposed - they are only for adventurous user for testing
[20:47] <Timon_> sfears; rt2870.inf
[20:48] <mragab> hi i need to backup my ubuntu system, just to feel safe, any gud tools similar to acronis true image ????
[20:48] <ratapoil> thanks guntbert
[20:48] <sfears> that doesn't sound like it..  i can't help you anymore Timon_.. download the drivers from the website
[20:48] <blakkheim> mragab: dd
[20:48] <hekdahl> Need serious help to install my wireless on my Dell Inspiron 1525 in ubuntu 9.1
[20:48] <sfears> good luck
[20:48] <roof> mragab, acronis rules man
[20:48] <przemo_one> mragab partimage
[20:48] <mragab> roof: very true
[20:48] <roof> guntbert, why are drivers not subject to GPL rules?
[20:49] <FordPrefect> DasEi: sorry I mean I run Fedora 11 in the last time and it worked, the new version is Fedora 12 which also does not work anymore
[20:49] <sfears> roof.. do you write programs for free?
[20:49] <mragab> przemo_one, am concernd about ext4 support
[20:49] <guntbert> roof: what drivers?
[20:49] <feed_me_seymour> I have a network share I'm trying to add in /etc/fstab that is not password-protected, however mount -a still prompts for a password, even a blank one. How can I tell /etc/fstab that there is no password and not to prompt for it?
[20:49] <roof> mragab, if it aint broke dont fix it, acronis is the one to use.
[20:49] <hekdahl> anyone!
[20:49] <przemo_one> roof because not every developer is making GPL soft
[20:49] <sfears> everyone!
[20:49] <roof> graphics drivers, wifi drivers, they are not opensource, are the wrapped binaries>
[20:49] <feed_me_seymour> Should I add "password=" in the options?
[20:50] <mragab> roof, i tried using acronis to backit up but is cudnt read it maybe becos of ext4
[20:50] <lokke> hey
[20:50] <FordPrefect> DasEi: but the point is, that the problem occures since I tried to install a new linux version is this just a coincidence?
[20:50] <blakkheim> mragab: use dd
[20:50] <sven_oostenbrink> I have to manually compile something under linux (ssh2 extension for php5.3), but I need to apply a patch file first. I have the patch file, how do I apply it? I tried patch patchfile.patch, but that seems to hang..
[20:50] <mragab> blakkheim, english please wat is dd
[20:50] <bevans> .
[20:50] <sterlin> Hey guys. Is there a way to create a bootable usb version of ubuntu on a flashdrive BUT customize it so I can install a few applications on it? How? Thanks
[20:50] <roof> i thought the idea was that anything written for linux had to be subject to GPL
[20:51] <lokke> i've a proplem with my bluetoothstick, does anyone know how i can install it?
[20:51] <przemo_one> mragab type dd
[20:51] <blakkheim> mragab: saying "english please" and then using "wat" is a bit of a contradiction, no? also, man dd
[20:51] <sfears> i'm also interested in sterlins questions about a custom live usb
[20:51] <hekdahl> Need help to intsall my wireless. Please!
[20:51] <przemo_one> roof nope
[20:51] <sfears> sterlin: perhaps
[20:51] <mragab> dd
[20:51] <newser> is there any gui to reinstall grub?
[20:51] <roof> przemo_one, what isthe deal then?
[20:51] <blakkheim> newser: why do you need a gui for that?
[20:51] <sterlin> sfears: how?
[20:51] <mragab> blakkheim, god get life -_-"
[20:52] <przemo_one> mragab in console
[20:52] <newser> blakkheim, I've been trying with the command prompt but I can't install it. I need to boot ubuntu from a second hdd and don't know how to do it. It only recognizes the first hdd
[20:52] <Pici> Please be civil.
[20:52] <roof> hekdahl, here is my advice to you, dont use wireless, its sucks so much in linux
[20:53] <sfears> sterlin: perhaps "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/usb (whatever the usb /dev is)
[20:53] <roof> hekdahl, its all about ethernet
[20:53] <blakkheim> newser: is it grub or grub2?
[20:53] <hekdahl> But i kinda need it.
[20:53] <przemo_one> roof true sometimes
[20:53] <guntbert> roof: please avoid generalization ^^^
[20:53] <Timon_> sfears, the download from the site is an installer...
[20:54] <newser> blakkheim, have no idea. I am new here and I only want to boot ubuntu no matter how
[20:54] <hekdahl> roof: Should i rather go back to windows?
[20:54] <Vandal> roof I think your advice is sound and wise
[20:54] <blakkheim> newser: ok, what did you do to mess grub up?
[20:54] <FordPrefect> !DE | FordPrefect
[20:54] <Vandal> maybe in 5 years Linux will have wireless like real OSes
[20:54] <sfears> but i guess you'd need multiple partitions.. i'm not sure if you can dd if=/dev/sda1 if=/dev/sda2 or not sterlin
[20:54] <przemo_one> roof kernel 2.6.24 was nice for wifi. unleas for my broadcom 43xx card
[20:54] <roof> hekdahl, no, just get a compatible card, its a lot less hassle, you unlikely to find the driver, but you can look on the manu website or just google for three days
[20:55] <hekdahl> roof: OK, might be a good idea.
[20:55] <fwaokda> I know this is a little off topic but does anyone know how to interpret dimensions... for example: 15.5 x 50 x 17.3 inches ?
[20:55] <newser> blakkheim, I have 2 hdds on my pc and I installed mint in the 1st one, then installed ubuntu on the 2nd one and it created grub for me. It recognized both hdds. I made some changes to the 1st hdd (rezise, moved partitions) and restarted and bam..
[20:55] <ElectRo`> 2.6.28 added lots of yummy wifi goodies
[20:55] <Yoman> what is RSA key fingerprint and what is it for?
[20:55] <Oxide> newuser: boot ubuntu live cd,open the terminal and write
[20:56] <blakkheim> !grub2 > newser
[20:56] <hekdahl> roof: Is it just to plug and play if i buy a new one?
[20:56] <przemo_one> roof for wifi under linux you most likely can use two different drivers. one linux native, and second windowses throu ndiswrapper.
[20:56] <roof> hekdahl, check the compatibility list for linux.
[20:56] <hekdahl> roof: In Ubuntu 9.1
[20:56] <przemo_one> hekdahl NO!
[20:56] <guntbert> !hcl | hekdahl
[20:56] <Timon_> sfears: on the download site there is only a .zip with a setup, and a cd-image...
[20:56] <przemo_one> hekdahl its ubuntu 9.10
[20:56] <sfears> Timon_: get the drivers.. then i'll help
[20:57] <roof> przemo_one, how do you check which is in use?
[20:57] <daverag> What's the command you can use to find out what kind of server a given website is running?
[20:57] <jsharp> So, I've got a module I'm developing on ubuntu and I need to install debugging symbols for apache. However, the apache2-dbg package appears to have been removed in 9.04, and I don't see it in 9.10. Does anyone know how one should install debugging symbols?
[20:57] <hekdahl> przemo_one: sorry!! I am totally new to linux!
[20:57] <hekdahl> przemo_one: a rookie!
[20:57] <bean> daverag: you could nmap the server.
[20:57] <Oxide> newuser: sudo grub; find /boot/grub/stage1; root (hd?,?); setup (hd0); quit
[20:58] <Oxide> newuser: do you understand what you've got to do?
[20:58] <przemo_one> roof ndiswrapper requaires additional setup. if your card works it's native
[20:58] <mragab> im really interested in using mondo but i get errors, can someone help, its ubuntu64+ 9.10
[20:59] <sfears> jsharp: are you sure you have the proper repositories enabled?
[20:59] <przemo_one> hekdahl me too :)
[20:59] <jsharp> sfears, well, I have all the default karmic repos enabled, do I need to enable a debug symbols repo?
[20:59] <roof> przemo_one, it was working unti l installed wicd, now its screwed
[20:59] <hekdahl> przemo_one: very well then. Good luck to you.
[20:59] <xhtml> всем привет, а теперь мои сообщения видно?
[20:59] <redleaf> hekdahl, coming late .. someone has a b43 wifi ?
[20:59] <roof> i cannot even get it to do an DNS lookup
[20:59] <bean> !ru xhtml
[21:00] <bean> !ru | xhtml
[21:00] <Witch-King-VT> how to open .pinion files in ubuntu?
[21:00] <sfears> i would check that out jsharp
[21:00] <przemo_one> roof the trick is to make linux not to load your native driver and use ndiswrapper. if windows driver is better afcourse (spelling)
[21:00] <mragab> anyone experienced in mondo
[21:01] <hekdahl> redleaf: I do, but i cant get it to work.
[21:01] <xhtml> #ubuntu-ru
[21:01] <redleaf> someone has trouble with broadcom43 wifi ?? roof
[21:01] <bean> xhtml: /join #ubuntu-ru
[21:01] <roof> przemo_one, its using broadcom STA driver
[21:01] <xhtml> join #ubuntu-ru
[21:01] <sfears> i use broadcom43 drivers redleaf
[21:01] <bean> xhtml: with a slash in front...
[21:01] <xhtml> thanks)
[21:01] <sfears> not sure how i got them working once i upgraded to 9.1 though redleaf
[21:01] <przemo_one> roof wicd? i'm not familiar. and tahts for what?
[21:01] <roof> redleaf, i had an issue with it not pinging another pc, so i changed network managers and now its totally screwed
[21:02] <Diverdude> is there a good dictionary for ubuntu?
[21:02] <roof> przemo_one, just replaces network-manager
[21:02] <redleaf> sfears, i just got here and wind of someone having trouble setting wifi .. ??
[21:02] <przemo_one> roof aaa and what was wrong with nm?
[21:02] <mragab> helooooooo mondoarchive
[21:02] <hekdahl> redleaf: i have problems
[21:02] <teddymills> Vandal, They tried using a 'REAL OS' Microsoft on the London exchange. The CIO was fired. They use Linux to power the New York Stock Exchange and Europe's Euronext.  To me and the world, thats about as 'REAL' as it gets.
[21:03] <redleaf> hekdahl, new install?  new machine?  do you know the exact chipset?
[21:03] <hekdahl> redleaf: Dell Inspirion 1525
[21:03] <roof> przemo_one, saw a forum thread that suggested it would fix the problem i had with my card no responding to requests unless first initiating comms with other machines,
[21:03] <mcprtk> Hello people, I was asking how to configure pop mail so that I can use both Thunderbird as well Mutt to check mail
[21:03] <roof> that was my original issue
[21:04] <hekdahl> redleaf: Chpset ID: 14E4:4315
[21:04] <firekool> mcprtk is there any way you can use IMAP?
[21:04] <roof> now its hanging on 'setting static dns' this is frustrating
[21:04] <hekdahl> redleaf: BCM 4312 i thing
[21:04] <Guest12960> how do you update to bleeding edge kernel in karmic?
[21:04] <xangua> and what pop account are you trying to set mcprtk¿
[21:04] <przemo_one> hekdahl i have broadcom wifi
[21:05] <guntbert> !latest | Guest12960
[21:05] <sfears> compile your own from vanillakernel.org Guest12960
[21:05] <redleaf> hekdahl, yup.  which kernel do you have?
[21:05] <occy> hmmm I can't do ssh localhost  that's fairly problematic huh? (nor can I ssh 127.0.0.1)
[21:05] <przemo_one> hekdahl what's wrong??
[21:05] <tecnix> ciao a tutti
[21:05] <firekool> I just got my braodcom wifi working kekdahl had a issue but that is becouse it was not plugged in wired to get the proprietery drivers.
[21:05] <roof> if i had a bottle of whiskey i would drink the entire thing in one go
[21:05] <sfears> hekdahl: "lspci" should show your your version under network controller
[21:05] <hekdahl> redleaf: Dont know really. How do i check?
[21:05] <Guest12960> sfears, tx
[21:05] <tecnix> !list
[21:06] <mragab> hi, the topic of backup doesn't seem to interest anyone, though it is important and a crutial thing, how can i backup my ubuntu box
[21:06] <sfears> technix.. this is not a file serving channel.. be careful
[21:06] <hekdahl>  przemo_one: Cant get my wireless card to work.
[21:06] <Witch-King-VT> how to open .pinion files in ubuntu?
[21:06] <blakkheim> mragab: you've already gotten answers to that question when you asked it a few minutes ago
[21:06] <firekool> mragab what type of backup are you trying to do?
[21:06] <przemo_one> hekdahl is it ubuntu 9.10?
[21:06] <tecnix> thanks
[21:06] <xangua> Witch-King-VT: what's a .pinion file¿! :S
[21:06] <Diverdude> is there a good dictionary for ubuntu?
[21:06] <redleaf> hekdahl, System/admin/sys monitor will spec out your kernel version
[21:06] <mragab> blakkheim, forget dd, it is annoying cant get it to work, and so is partimage, and so is mondoarchive
[21:07] <hekdahl> przemo_one: yes
[21:07] <mragab> firekool, of my complete OS
[21:07] <blakkheim> mragab: it's annoying because you can't get it to work? lol
[21:07] <tecnix> nessuno sa come scaricare file con irc su ubuntu?
[21:07] <sfears> mragab: if you can't get dd to work your typing something wrong or using the wrong /dev
[21:07] <roof> mragab, did you use the raw mode?
[21:07] <subito> hello, what's the ubuntu package to install for the java add-on of firefox?
[21:07] <devin> is the new gdm going ever allow different theming or just the little work around like changing background and whatnot?
[21:07] <Witch-King-VT> xangua, some kind of data files
[21:08] <B3rz3rk3r> mragab, have you tried SBackup (Simple Backup) as the name implies, its very easy to use, so i think may solve your issues with backup?
[21:08] <redleaf> hekdahl, 4315 supported 2.6.32 and later
[21:08] <mragab> pliz i cant be bothered going through terminal, i had a really long bash day, i'd prefer a gui at the moment
[21:08] <xangua> subito: sun-java6-plugin
[21:08] <przemo_one> hekdahl go to System, Administration, Drivers
[21:08] <jldupont> Anybody having problems with "Update Manager" on Karmic?  It shows the updates list but when I press "Install Updates", it just refreshes the list without updating. Any ideas? (http://serverfault.com/questions/100132/update-manager-wont-update-anymore)
[21:08] <sfears> mragab: also.. you can't always dump data while it is in use.. perhaps use the live cd.. mount the partition your trying to back up and dd won't hang
[21:09] <mragab> B3rz3rk3r, its not enough, i need an image or compressed file of the complete Partiton (disaster Recovery)
[21:09] <subito> xangua: thanks
[21:09] <B3rz3rk3r> mragab, could you not just mirror the drive then?
[21:09] <mragab> sfears, god noooo, enough code for today, gui will really help =]
[21:09] <hekdahl> redleaf: 2.6.31-16-generic, is that it?
[21:09] <sfears> mragab: livecd has a gui
[21:10] <mragab> B3rz3rk3r, mirror as in raid ? or what do you mean
[21:10] <sfears> and dd really is the way to go
[21:10] <redleaf> hekdahl, yes, but your chip supported 2.6.32 and later
[21:10] <blakkheim> mragab: sometimes a commandline application is the best for the job. everything can't be handed to you with a GUI.
[21:10] <mragab> sfears, yes but then ill use dd back in command line
[21:10] <redleaf> hekdahl, you'll have to upgrade the kernel
[21:10] <roof> blackxored, ohh, thats gonna enrage him.
[21:10] <hekdahl> redleaf: how?
[21:11] <hekdahl> redleaf: Im totally new to this!
[21:11] <mragab> blakkheim, are you ready to spoon feed me the code, because thats why i am in deperate need of a gui atm
[21:11] <sfears> yeah.. you'll have to use command line to mount the partition too.. it may be your only good option mragab
[21:11] <redleaf> hekdahl, thats out of my realm .. but, have you run an upgrade since your install?
[21:11] <Rodensky> ppl - i played with alsamixer levels and now i have no sound at all, even when i restart.. how do i make all sounf defintions and settings go back to original default of the system?
[21:11] <sterlin> is there a way to run ubuntu from a usb drive and not write any files to the hdd of the host computer? and also not write any files to the usb drive, as if you were running a livecd?
[21:11] <blakkheim> mragab: dd if=/dev/yourharddrive of=/whereyouwant/thebackup
[21:11] <przemo_one> redleaf are you talking about that broadcom wifi?
[21:11] <hekdahl> redleaf: Yepp, in the synaptic thing,
[21:11] <B3rz3rk3r> mragab, mirroring them allows redundant data retention. So if one drive fails you simply remove it and carry on as normal
[21:11] <sfears> there is no real default Rodensky.. just go into alsamixer and turn everything up
[21:12] <redleaf> hekdahl, ask the room about upgrading the kernel or check the forums/wiki, etc
[21:12] <guntbert> !usb | sterlin
[21:12] <Rodensky> sfears  - every is up....
[21:12] <hekdahl> redleaf: willdo!
[21:12] <redleaf> przemo_one, yes
[21:12] <lgsploosh> Hello everyone! Is anyone available to help me with something
[21:12] <hekdahl> redleaf: Tanx!
[21:12] <Rodensky> *everything
[21:12] <przemo_one> sterlin yes, google for ubuntu on pendrive
[21:12] <sterlin> guntbert: przemo_one thanks
[21:12] <AJC_Z0> Rodensky: Check all the sliders in gnome-volume-control
[21:12] <przemo_one> redleaf he does not need to upgrade the kernel. it's an old wifi card
[21:12] <sfears> Rodensky: uninstall skype.. see if it fixes your problem.. you can reinstall after you've diagnosed
[21:12] <hekdahl> Can somebody assist me with updating my kernel?
[21:13] <Rodensky> not only everything is up, i also uninstalled and installed again pulseausio and alsamixer and i can't listen anything
[21:13] <mragab> B3rz3rk3r, i had long hasstle with a striped volume today, i have raid  phobia now, i doubt ill do that, i just want to image the partition, i mean there is not a single linux tool that could do that
[21:13] <sfears> hekdahl.. if you need help upgrading your kernel you don't need to update your kernel
[21:13] <roof> przemo_one, my dear chap, how does one find the driver that one can install via ndiswrapper for ones wireless card?
[21:13] <xangua> sterlin: ubuntu has an 'start usb' something :S
[21:13] <guntbert> sterlin: you can create an ubuntu live USB from system/administration/USB startup.... - make it "non-persistent"
[21:13] <redleaf> przemo_one, not according the info he listed ..
[21:13] <blakkheim> sfears: lol
[21:13] <Rodensky> skype is now off, i restarted twice
[21:13] <hekdahl> redleaf: ok upgrade then.
[21:13] <lgsploosh> I have a problem booting my usb drive with my HP pavillion ze 1110
[21:14] <mragab> blakkheim, is the backup archived, imaged or do-ed in anyway =P
[21:14] <B3rz3rk3r> mragab, im sure there is, but i have no need for such things, and so i do not know about them personally. Keep asking, and be patient, someone will have an answer for you
[21:14] <sfears> guntbert: sterlin would like a custom livecd.. not an image off the currenly ubuntu live cd
[21:14] <mragab> B3rz3rk3r, oh im patient and thanx =]
[21:14] <hekdahl> redleaf: Can somebody help me to UPGRADE my kernel.
[21:14] <redleaf> przemo_one, 14e4:4315 supported 2.6.32 and later BCM4312
[21:14] <redleaf> !kernel
[21:14] <Rodensky> when i came here first time with the sound problem, it was random and all it needed was a reboot. now there is absolutly no sound at all :(
[21:14] <blakkheim> mragab: it's a block-by-block backup of your hard drive
[21:14] <Shwack> Can somebody please help me recover my encrypted Home directory - I can find my wrapped-passphrse file but when attempting to decrypt it with my login password nothing works.       I changed my password using  sudo passwd shwack and nothing has worked ever since.    Ubuntu has my home directory locked away encrypted and I am unable to get in event though I know my password and try changing it back to the old one.. nothing works!!    please help
[21:14] <lgsploosh> hello
[21:15] <przemo_one> roof command lspci with some parameter i dont recall right now. it will give you a device id. there is a website. ndiswrapper home or something alike. there will say what windows driver for which card
[21:15] <guntbert> sfears: I didn't see that in his question ... but thx
[21:15] <mragab> blakkheim,  but its to another drive, not an image that i can restore to another pc, or back incase of failiure
[21:15] <redleaf> !kernel > hekdahl
[21:15] <blakkheim> mragab: you can restore the image from an external drive to the computer if a failure happens
[21:15] <JSharp> sfears, sorry about that, I don't think I caught your response. my connection died for a bit.
[21:15] <Rodensky> btw sfears - still only skype can be heard... all other thing - nada
[21:16] <jlauxetta> Heya pplz
[21:16] <przemo_one> roof lspci -n
[21:16] <wizzo50> How do you open a phf file in Ubuntu?
[21:16] <Shwack> Can somebody please help me recover my encrypted Home directory - I can find my wrapped-passphrse file but when attempting to decrypt it with my login password nothing works.       I changed my password using  sudo passwd shwack and nothing has worked ever since.    Ubuntu has my home directory locked away encrypted and I am unable to get in event though I know my password and try changing it back to the old one.. nothing works!!    please help
[21:16] <redleaf> hekdahl, you just happen to have a bit of funny card .. ;-|
[21:16] <sfears> i understand that Rodensky.. that's why it's good troubleshooting to uninstall skype.. sounds like that's what's causing your problems
[21:16] <Shwack> lgsploosh: hello
[21:16] <blakkheim> !repeat | Shwack
[21:16] <jacksonlong22> Having trouble installing drivers for bcm43xx card.  Help would be appreciated.
[21:16] <mragab> blakkheim, but my question is, does dd make an image, or a copy
[21:16] <sfears> JSharp: yes.. make sure extra repositories are enabled
[21:16] <Shwack> !attitude blackkheim
[21:16] <blakkheim> mragab: an "image"
[21:16] <guntbert> Shwack: a long but very informative article http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7568/1.html
[21:17] <mragab> blakkheim, so why didnt you say that earlier =P
[21:17] <JSharp> sfears, so, universe and multiverse?
[21:17] <Shwack> cuz blackkheim is a liberal communist
[21:17] <roof> przemo_one, how do they compare to the proprietary ones?
[21:17] <blakkheim> mragab: it's a backup on the block level, an "image" is just another way of saying the same thing
[21:17] <sfears> try that.. you more than likly need the dev repositories
[21:17] <guntbert> Shwack: please stay polite
[21:17] <JSharp> sfears, ah, which ones are those?
[21:17] <przemo_one> redleaf mine is 14e4:4318 and it's suported for a while. i'll check yourse
[21:17] <wizzo50> How do you open a phf file in Ubuntu?
[21:17] <xover> -
[21:17] <Rodensky> sfears - i uninstalled skype and still - no sound
[21:17] <sfears> JSharp: hold
[21:18] <JSharp> sfears, thanks
[21:18] <przemo_one> redleaf btw. works fine with ndiswrapper
[21:18] <sfears> rodensky.. may need a restart to reload kernel stuff
[21:18] <redleaf> przemo_one, mine is 4318 as well, quite different from 4312
[21:18] <Ademan_> anyone know if i can use 802.11s with any (natively) supported wireless chipset?
[21:18] <redleaf> przemo_one, mine w/ fwcutter
[21:18] <sfears> 802.11s?
[21:18] <Rodensky> sfears - ok i'll restart
[21:18] <mragab> blakkheim, AaAAAAHH noo i read the wiki, i want something that does a ISO bootable for recovery, mondoarchive does but i get error
[21:18] <xover> Rodensky, when do you have no sound on playback?
[21:18] <sfears> mragab: dd is your ticket
[21:18] <mragab> ok we have an auction here, lets see who can score the most points on open source data recovery products (THAT MAKE IMAGES OF THE DRIVE ONLY)  xD
[21:19] <blakkheim> mragab: oh ok, then nevermind. you're looking for smoething totally different than a backup image
[21:19] <Ademan_> sfears: mesh networking
[21:19] <Silver_Swords> hi all. any clues to how to play 3gp files on ubuntu 9.10 gnome.
[21:19] <mragab> sfears, i rely hate dd now
[21:19] <Shwack> guntbert- i came in this room two days ago asking how to chang my password - ore than 5 poeple replied  "sudo passwd shwack"   doing this ruined my computer and nobody is able to help... pardon me if i'm slightly frustrated at people in this room who are trigger happy with bot commands
[21:19] <sfears> have never heard of it Ademan_
[21:19] <wizzo50> Hello
[21:19] <wizzo50> How do you open a phf file in Ubuntu?
[21:19] <mragab> sfears, reminds me of dexters Lab =D
[21:19] <xangua> Silver_Swords: install 'restricted extras'
[21:19] <Ademan> wizzo50: what the heck is a phf file?
[21:19] <przemo_one> redleaf then we have the same. do what i say
[21:19] <wizzo50> picture file
[21:19] <Silver_Swords> xangua: they are installed.
[21:20] <przemo_one> roof ndiswrapper is using windows drivers in linux. these are proprietary ones
[21:20] <xangua> thy with vlc then Silver_Swords
[21:20] <redleaf> przemo_one, mine is good.  i was helping hek
[21:20] <mragab> anyone ^o)
[21:20] <angerfist_> slt a tous
[21:20] <przemo_one> redleaf ow ok
[21:21] <Ademan> wizzo50: what program produces them?
[21:21] <Silver_Swords> xangua: the vids play but no sound. and yes i got vlc and loads of others installed.
[21:21] <redace> hey
[21:21] <Rodensky> sfears - i restarted - no luck
[21:21] <guntbert> Shwack: changing your password will *never* ruin your computer - so what is the issue?
[21:21] <mragab> no-one ^o) i think ill execute           sudo  rmdir  /             it might solve my problems, thats if it even works =P
[21:21] <wizzo50> Ademan, something to convert it over to open it in ubuntu
[21:22] <zleap> guntbert, it does if you forget ur password, and its your new root password
[21:22] <Ademan> wizzo50: i mean in windows what program produced that file?
[21:22] <wizzo50> No
[21:22] <guntbert> zleap: don't spread FUD please
[21:22] <mragab> im really desperate for help here (OTHER THAT DD and DEXTER) so ...plizzz
[21:22] <przemo_one> redleaf but it's the same module. bcm43xx :) it should work the same
[21:22] <sfears_> JSharp: having issues on my side.. somewhere in the edit repositories it says something about development.. make sure that one is enabled
[21:22] <mneptok> Shwack: change your password back to the original password with just "passwd" (there is no need for "sudo passwd")
[21:23] <guntbert> zleap: we are not talking root passwords here
[21:23] <Shwack> guntbert - I changed my password and upon restarting my Ubuntu thinks my login password is one thing and my encrypted home folder will not decrypt - Changing my password back to original via the same sudo passwd shwakc command did not work.  I am trying to follow the directions on the same link you gave me on the last page - the data recovery
[21:23] <Shwack> mneptok tried that
[21:23] <redleaf> przemo_one, same module, yes, but different physical chips -- work differently
[21:23] <wizzo50> a friend emailed it to me and now I need to open it and I get a error so I probably need to convert it over so I can open it. I don't have windows
[21:23] <JSharp> sfears_, thanks, will give it a try
[21:23] <redace> can i ask for help with ubuntu here?
[21:23] <zleap> guntbert, i guesed that but was just saying
[21:23] <mneptok> Shwack: but you just said you reset it back with "sudo passwd"
[21:24] <przemo_one> redleaf so if he enable f/w it does not work?
[21:24] <xover> redace, go for it me old china
[21:24] <Shwack> guntbert - I have my wrapped-passphrase file that is encrypted with my old or new user password - I try decrypting this file using ecryptfs with both passwords and it fails everyt ime
[21:24] <guntbert> Shwack: on thta page you will aslo see that "in the end" you need the "random grenerated passphrase" which you certainly recorded somewhere secure
[21:24] <redace> alright thanks
[21:24] <redace> well it seems that
[21:24] <Shwack> guntbert - the random generated passphrase can be found by decrypting the wrapped passphrase file, as noted on the last page of the link you sent me
[21:24] <redleaf> przemo_one, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices
[21:24] <mgmuscari> i've disabled glitch-free scheduling for my pulseaudio server (added tsched=0 to the appropriate line in default.pa), and that solved a bunch of stuttering audio problems and high cpu load for certain applications, but now pulseaudio occasionally gets screwed up and all my audio becomes distorted buzzing. i've checked the PCM level and it's 100% so it's not that well-known bug... this is in Jaunty with PA 0.9.19. anybody ex
[21:24] <Shwack> guntbert - this is how you find out your random passphrase if you failed to record it down but still know the login password
[21:24] <redace> some of my applications open up in a really big window with large text and icons
[21:25] <Shwack> guntbert - however, this has not worked
[21:25] <guntbert> Shwack: yes, but you *should* have done as soon as you created your system
[21:25] <mragab> FOUND IT CLONEZILLA ~!!!!! =D =D , the answer to everyones backup and recovery problems, thanx ppl, i guess i won the auction xD
[21:25] <redace> system admin stuff, like the appeareance settings also opens up with really large icons and text
[21:25] <kernel_geek> Hello having problems with my mtp mp3 player. Connect it, nothing in dmesg or lsusb, wont dock to computer. Have tried different cable and different mp3 player
[21:26] <Shwack> guntbert - I set up linux using advanced partition editor so I could make my own partition for /home, I do not remember ever being asked if i wanted to encrypt my home folder...and thus i never wrote down any passphrase.  It looks like decrypting the wrapped passphrase file is my only hope
[21:26] <mneptok> redace: all on one line, please? makes it easier for people to understand the issue.
[21:26] <mragab> god am out of here bye
[21:26] <xover> redace, system - preferences - appearance - fonts -detail - change the resolution, that will makes things smaller.
[21:26] <sfears_> mragab.. "sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/windows/backup.iso
[21:26] <sfears_> that's my disaster recovery
[21:27] <redace> when i open the appearance window, it is too big to fit on my desktop
[21:27] <Shwack> guntbert - I boot from live CD, mount the partition containing  /home,   fine my wrapped-passphrase file,    I run the correct command to decrypt it with ecryptfs, and I try using both the old and new password and it will not decrypt.  I am desperate to recover my files...i would die without them
[21:27] <guntbert> Shwack: I guess you must have missed something there - I clearly remember that question when I set up a LVM / encrypted system
[21:27] <przemo_one> bye @ll
[21:27] <redace> is there any way to do this through command line?
[21:28] <vixus> Ok, I switched my system to OSS ages ago to try out a different sound card. Didn't work so I switched back to alsa but now all sound is distorted. Used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[21:28] <xover> redace, for some reason the developers assumed that users of ubuntu would be using cinema screens for their monitors
[21:28] <Shwack> guntbert - it may very well be that i just missed it as I am new to linux (first time user)  however, if discovery of the passphrsae is possible ith my login password and wrapped-passphrase file,    it is my only hope for getting my fiels back and I really need it to work.
[21:28] <guntbert> Shwack: I'm sorry - didn't want to "rub it in" - I wish you the best possible luck with your data - bedtime here
[21:28] <xover> redace, I am using a 19inch monitor with 1980x1050 res and it still seens too big until i reduced the font res.
[21:28] <Shwack> guntbert - thank you for your help, have a good night
[21:29] <guntbert> Shwack: same to you - and Good luck :-)
[21:29] <redace> its not just the font size that is too big, the whole application window is too big, the menu buttons and everything
[21:29] <BobSapp> Im experiencing a strange and annoying problem.  My mouse cursor is garbled.
[21:30] <Shwack> Well I turn to the room again.   I need help unwrapping my wrapped-passphrase file as described here http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7568/3/      I have tried for 2 days to recover my encrypted home folder now,  I know my passwords.... The only thing i did was change my user password via terminal using   sudo passwd shwack.    After restarting, my home folder would not decrypt.   I tried changing it back to the old password the same way, and it did not he
[21:30] <Shwack> lp.
[21:30] <FloodBot3> Shwack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <BobSapp> i tried restarting x by logging out and hitting ctrl alt backspace but that didnt work.
[21:31] <redace> maybe i will take a screenshot and try to get help in the forums
[21:31] <BobSapp> ill try rebooting
[21:32] <xover> redace, you need to reduce the res my main man
[21:32] <ben_q> hello, i have a quite clean installation of ubuntu 9.10 and my Xorg takes 100% CPU even with no other application running. does anyone know why that might be?
[21:32] <xover> redace, what i told you will answer your prayers trust me
[21:33] <shudder> hi
[21:33] <jp--> hi
[21:33] <ChinoChano> hi guys. i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and many many problems. now, i can reach GDM but no way to get gnome working, it s cycling to GDM every time
[21:33] <ChinoChano> hi guys. i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and many many problems. now, i can reach GDM but no way to get gnome working, it s cycling to GDM every time
[21:34] <ChinoChano> any help deeply appreciated
[21:34] <sfears_> gnome is GDM??
[21:34] <mkanyicy> hi jp--
[21:34] <sfears_> GDM = gnome desktop manager??
[21:34] <mkanyicy> hi shudder
[21:34] <xover> sfears_, wrong
[21:34] <mmvx> ChinoChano have you tried moving your xorg.conf sideways and rebooting?
[21:34] <redace> i am in the appearance preferences
[21:34] <llutz> GDM - GNOME Display Manager
[21:34] <mkanyicy> sfears_, something like that
[21:34] <xover> ChinoChano, reinstall gnome from single user and break out the champange
[21:34] <ChinoChano> mmvx, no i didn t
[21:34] <ChinoChano> xover, that was my plan, but HOW?
[21:35] <mmvx> ChinoChano it may be worth renaming xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and rebooting
[21:35] <xover> redace, then go into 'fonts' 'details' reduce the number in the resolution box.
[21:35] <mmvx> it's in /etc/X11
[21:35] <ChinoChano> i boot in recovery mode then type what... ??
[21:35] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i m on it
[21:35] <redace> is details below the font preview? because the font preview is so big I cannot get below it
[21:35] <Yoman> if I would like to simply connect to a remote server without loging in, would I still use ssh?
[21:36] <phill_> network newbie Q: I've got windoze shares set up. What do I need to do to be able to cd to the network directories from the command line?
[21:36] <xover> ChinoChano, from grub, press 'esc' then highlight the kernel line, then press 'e' then add the word 'single' to the end of the line, then press 'enter'
[21:36] <userone> before i mess up my bootloader i thought i would just check...can i simply put # before some of the entries i dont want displayed when grub starts up
[21:36] <sfears> phill_: is that different than samba shares?
[21:36] <mmvx> xover why wouldn't you just use Ctrl Alt and F1 then sudo su?
[21:37] <sfears> samba is something like //:smb/drives/folder
[21:37] <phill_> Under the menu Places/Connect to Server/ Windoze share
[21:37] <xover> mmvx, at what stage are all 7 TTYs available?
[21:37] <mkanyicy> userone, are you using grub2 or the old grub?
[21:38] <mmvx> xover usually before gdm is started
[21:38] <userone> mkanyicy: old grub, so i can just edit menu.lst in /boot/grub ?
[21:38] <ChinoChano> xover, i know this. I don t know what i should type to reinstall the whole gnome
[21:38] <mkanyicy> userone, yes
[21:38] <redace> thanks for your help guys but I am going to  take a screenshot and try the forums
[21:38] <xover> ChinoChano, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome
[21:38] <ben_q> hello, i have a quite clean installation of ubuntu 9.10 and my Xorg takes 100% CPU even with no other application running. does anyone know why that might be?
[21:39] <ChinoChano> oh one moment: if I update the kernel (as in the upgrade) should n t I reinstall the nvidia drivers as well?
[21:39] <jlauxetta> I bought a dell inspiron mini with ubuntu, amazing little gadget
[21:39] <jlauxetta> to my door for 300
[21:39] <mkanyicy> xover, is there a package called gnome ??
[21:39] <userone> mkanyicy: thanks, btw, any major benefits of using grub2 instead of grub? i'm not a programmer and just use ubuntu as my main os on my laptop
[21:39] <mmvx> ChinoChano why are you reinstalling gnome again?
[21:39] <sfears> ChinoChano: you should disable the nvidia drivers.. update your kernel.. then reinstall the nvidia drivers
[21:40] <mkanyicy> userone, no there are no MAJOR benefits
[21:40] <Doonz> Hi guys, What im trying to do is set up passwordless transfers using rsync between my two servers. each server has the same user on it with the same password. this will be the user calling for the rsync transfer on server2. The user we will call user1. from server 1 user1 can initiate a ssh session with server2 without being prompted to enter a password. Now from server2 user1 cannot initiate a ssh session with server1 without entering a p
[21:40] <sfears> i havn't had major problems with nvidia drivers with updates since 8.1 but nvidia is still flaky
[21:40] <mmvx> Doonz you need to log in as user1 on server2 and create a key
[21:40] <mkanyicy> Doonz, geez you still have this problem
[21:40] <xover> mkanyicy, indeed there is my good sir
[21:40] <Doonz> mkanyicy: yeah
[21:41] <mmvx> Doonz have you created an ssh key for user1 on server2
[21:41] <mkanyicy> Doonz, do as mmvx is suggesting
[21:41] <Doonz> mkanyicy: im so confused to why server2 to server1 i cannont get to work
[21:41] <userone> mkanyicy: thanks, so i will just wait  until the next release and it becomes mandatory (i upgraded this time to 9.10 , and not new install)
[21:41] <Doonz> mmvx: yes
[21:41] <xover> ChinoChano, Are you down with that bruv?
[21:41] <mmvx> using ssh-keygen -t rsa?
[21:41] <Doonz> and its been added to server1
[21:41] <ChinoChano> it says UNsatisfied deps or some corrupted packages.
[21:41] <Doonz> yep
[21:41] <mkanyicy> Doonz, start afresh as mmvx is telling you
[21:41] <ChinoChano> xover, mmvx i moved xorg: no luck
[21:41] <Doonz> i did
[21:41] <Doonz> deleted eveything in the .ssh folder on both servers
[21:42] <mkanyicy> mmvx, -t rsa is the default
[21:42] <ChinoChano> problem could be in gdm actually, weird behaviour
[21:42] <ChinoChano> and i can  t reinstall gnome
[21:42] <xover> ChinoChano, remove gnome
[21:42] <mmvx> Doonz you may need to remove the entries in the authorized_keys file on server1
[21:42] <xover> ChinoChano, then install it again
[21:42] <Doonz> mmvx: did that
[21:42] <ChinoChano> apt-get install --remove gnome?
[21:42] <Doonz> readd the newly ccreated key from server2
[21:42] <sfears> apt-get remove --purge gnome?
[21:43] <saml> yo
[21:43] <Doonz> its so wierd that it worked from serve 1 to server 2  but not the other way even tho the steps i followed were i dentical
[21:43] <saml> how can I install dependences of package A  without installing package A?
[21:43] <mmvx> Doonz you run cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh user1@server1 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'?
[21:43] <sfears> figure out the dependencies and install them individually.. why would you want to do that though saml
[21:44] <ChinoChano> sfears, thanks
[21:44] <mmvx> mkanyicy thanks I didn't know that
[21:44] <ChinoChano> can t remove it: not installed...
[21:44] <mkanyicy> Doonz, do you have openssh-server on both servers installed
[21:44] <andi_> saml: does package A already installed?
[21:44] <Doonz> mmvx: yes i i can look at authorizedkeys and can see the entry
[21:44] <saml> sfears i don't know.. i wanted to use debug version of flashplayer
[21:44] <sfears> ChinoChano: might be gnome-desktop
[21:44] <Doonz> mkanyicy: yes
[21:44] <ChinoChano> but when I try to install it, the package contains uinstaisfied deps
[21:44] <saml> ./flashplayer
[21:44] <saml> it can't find gtk.so...etc
[21:44] <mmvx> ChicoChano looks like you have a graphics prob not a gnome prob
[21:44] <tweakt> Can changes made using the display applet be persisted somewhere? (ie: screen rotation, resolution, etc) ?
[21:44] <VCoolio> saml: apt-get build-dep ?
[21:44] <JSharp> sfears, looks like the debian/rules file in the source package deletes the -dbg package that gets generated when the binaries are stripped if the lsb_release is Ubuntu
[21:44]  * JSharp looks for the package maintainers
[21:45] <mmvx> Doonz so when you try to log in to server1 from server2 as user1 you are prompted for a password?
[21:45] <Doonz> no that way works
[21:45] <andi_> saml: getlibs
[21:45] <Doonz> its from server2 to server1 it prompts me
[21:45] <xover> ChinoChano, best advice here is to pull the ejection seat button, get the hell out of dodge, after copying your data and doing a fresh install. Upgrades can be the path to hell.
[21:45] <mmvx> Doonz that's what I said :)
[21:45] <Doonz> well thats exactly what you said (Sorry)
[21:46] <sfears> JSharp: perhaps download a .deb or compile yourself rather than using the repos?
[21:46] <mmvx> Doonz did you enter a password when you generated the key?
[21:46] <Doonz> mmvx: no
[21:46] <mmvx> Doonz which versions of linux are running on the machines?
[21:46] <JSharp> sfears, nope, installed from repo
[21:46] <Doonz> both 9.10 server
[21:46] <mmvx> Doonz default installs?
[21:47] <Doonz> yes
[21:47] <xover> what is crtl+alt F8?
[21:47] <Doonz> actually identical images
[21:47] <Doonz> :/
[21:47] <xover> is that dmesg?
[21:47] <nightsjammies> I need some help in finding the right Chromium download. Can anyone assist me?
[21:47] <JSharp> did an apt-get source and looked through the packaging control files
[21:47] <sfears> install the debug symbols from an alternate source JSharp? i'm not really familiar with what your talking about, just giving suggestions
[21:47] <redace> hi guys, thanks again for your help, I was messing around with the display resolution and the problem is fixed, I don't know what I did but it seems fine now
[21:47] <JSharp> sfears, ah, no problems then :)
[21:47] <mmvx> Doonz you're sure the files are /home/$user1/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:47] <JSharp> thanks for your suggestions
[21:47] <xover> redace, its ok man, no problem, remember i cured you man, peace brother
[21:48] <sfears> what i'm trying to avoid is the apt program doing things for you.. ie stripping the debug symbols
[21:48] <Doonz> mmvx: yep
[21:48] <Doonz> ~/.ssh$ ls
[21:48] <Doonz> authorized_keys  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts
[21:48] <JSharp> well, that's no so much of a problem, it's just that it's not building the -dbg package
[21:48] <Doonz> thats server 2
[21:48] <minimec> nightsjammies: For the browser only... http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html
[21:48] <redace> xover, lol, will remember that
[21:48] <Doonz> authorized_keys  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts
[21:48] <Doonz> server 1
[21:48] <sfears> perhaps remove and reinstall using an alternate source JSharp
[21:48] <xover> im off people, lateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerz
[21:49] <mmvx> Doonz you got me - can you try creating a different user on server1 and repeating the process?
[21:50] <mkanyicy> mmvx, what about backing up the .ssh directory and removing it and restart ssh-keygen ?
[21:51] <mkanyicy> mmvx, what if Doons backs up the .ssh directory and removing it and restart ssh-keygen instead of creating a new user?
[21:51] <mmvx> mkanyicy maybe you have a point there's no other obvious reason why it would fail
[21:51] <ChinoChano> i m back
[21:51] <ChinoChano> xover's advice was a bit sad...
[21:52] <roslin> hey ?
[21:52] <roslin> :P
[21:52] <ChinoChano> i m def not going to stick on a distro that can  t handle properly the upgrades.
[21:52] <rev42> interesting. sharkoon hardware just replied with a reference to their website which states that they don't support linux.
[21:52] <ChinoChano> so i need to sort this out.
[21:52] <mkanyicy> mmvx, what versions of linux are you running on both machines, Doonz ?
[21:52] <ChinoChano> there seem to be a problem with some deps.
[21:52] <mmvx> mkanyicy he's running 9.10 server on both, default
[21:53] <newser> how can I reinstall grub rescanning partitions?
[21:53] <Dunga> hey guys, does anybody here know visual basic, and is willing to help me, with a fairly simple task?
[21:53] <mkanyicy> Doonz, are these machines separated by proxy ?
[21:54] <ChinoChano> if I try to reinstall gnome, byt apt-get install --reinstall gnome-desktop-environment, i have the error
[21:54] <mkanyicy> Dunga, this is an ubuntu support channel not VB stuff
[21:54] <Dunga> is there a VB channel that i can join?
[21:55] <Doonz> mkanyicy: yes one is a remote server
[21:55] <ChinoChano> fast-user-switch-applet is needed but is not installable.
[21:55] <ChinoChano> there are some unsatisf. deps.:
[21:55] <tweakt> Are display applet settings persisted (gconf?) (ie: screen rotation, resolution, etc)?
[21:55] <mmvx> ChicoChano have you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10?
[21:55] <ChinoChano> gnome-desktop-environment
[21:55] <ChinoChano> mmvx, YES
[21:55] <ChinoChano> double YES
[21:55] <mkanyicy> Doonz, the local server has to through proxy server before reaching the remote server?
[21:56] <minimec> newser: 9.10? sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub2
[21:56] <Doonz> no proxy in the way
[21:56] <ChinoChano> mmvx, then i ran through Fk'in annoying problems
[21:56] <ChinoChano> i had to remount in rw then to dpkg-reconfigure
[21:56] <shudder> ChinoChano: did you upgrade via terminal, or did you do a fresh install
[21:56] <redleaf> newser, with !grub2 sudo update-grub
[21:56] <mmvx> ChicoChano have you tried aptitude safe-upgrade?
[21:56] <costinel> who help me ?
[21:57] <mmvx> costinel what's the problem?
[21:57] <ChinoChano> shudder, ... well, ... i "clicked". it bugged. I had to remount partitions in rw from shell maintenance.
[21:57] <trijntje> !ask | costinel
[21:57] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i tried it. don t remember the output...
[21:57] <costinel> not working irw
[21:58] <trijntje> costinel, where are you from? Maybe there is a channel in your language
[21:58] <Overand> (I'm in EST time) - Shouldn't a crontab entry for my user that's set to:  05 0   */3  *   *    the_command - have kicked off?
[21:58] <Overand> i.e. around 17 hours ago?
[21:58] <adag> anyone in ##linux?, or is it being hit again?
[21:58] <rev42> could you please also ask the folks at support@sharkoon.com to develop or support linux drivers, because they seem to just ignore ubuntu and linux :( let's tell them that lot's of people use linux these days.
[21:58] <newser> what if I am missing the stage1 file?
[21:58] <mmvx> Doonz mkanyicy suggests moving the .ssh directories sideways and trying again - worth a shot?
[21:58] <costinel> romania
[21:58] <ChinoChano> mmvx, it says 0 needs to be dl, 0 need to be instl, ... nothing to be done. some checkings and exits.
[21:58] <trijntje> !ro
[21:58] <newser> how can I restore/reinstall grub if I cannot find the stage1 file?
[21:59] <Doonz> so delete the .ssh directory on both servers?
[21:59] <mmvx> Chico-Chano and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:59] <Doonz> mmvx: so delete the .ssh directory on both servers?
[21:59] <mkanyicy> Doonz, yes
[21:59] <mmvx> Doonz you could just move them to .sshbak or something
[21:59] <mkanyicy> Doonz, no
[21:59] <Yoman> is there a built in command in ubuntu to connect to a server (e.g. google) via shell?
[21:59] <Doonz> o.O
[22:00] <rev42> adag: hit by?
[22:00] <mmvx> Yoman do you mean a terminal web browser?
[22:00] <Doonz> so delete or not delerte
[22:00] <mkanyicy> Doonz, mv -v ~/.ssh ~/ssh-backup
[22:00] <ChinoChano> mmvx, it says 0 to be removed, 0 to be instl, 0 to be dled, 0 newly installed and 0 updated
[22:00] <adag> rev42, bot attack
[22:00] <mkanyicy> Doonz, backup do not delete
[22:00] <newser> how can I restore/reinstall grub if I cannot find the stage1 file? I've been trying for hours with no success :(
[22:00] <ChinoChano> could the problem be GDM?
[22:01] <Doonz> ok all done
[22:01] <mkanyicy> Doonz, just rename the folder using "mv"
[22:01] <mkanyicy> Doonz, both servers ?
[22:01] <Overand> Yoman: links / elinks / lynx  are graphical, may or may nmot be built in
[22:01] <Yoman> mmvx, not really, just a way to connect to a remote se3rver without logging in
[22:01] <Doonz> mkanyicy: yes
[22:01] <minimec> Yoman: wget, if yu want to download something...
[22:01] <Overand> Yoman: wget and curl are designed - more or less - for downloading files specifically (curl moreso for scripting)
[22:01] <mmvx> Doonz now you can start afresh creating the directories, keys etc
[22:01] <mkanyicy> Doonz, server 1: "ssh-keygen" and press ENTER until the end
[22:01] <Doonz> mkanyicy: we will go server 1 to server 2 first
[22:02] <mmvx> Yoman what do you mean connect? With a command shell?
[22:02] <Doonz> done. now ill scp it to server 2
[22:02] <_dreamy_> in apache how do i set the directory of my index.htm ?
[22:02] <Yoman> mmvx, yea ^
[22:02] <mkanyicy> Doonz, then on server 2, do the same "ssh-keygen" and press ENTER all the way to the end
[22:02] <minimec> Yoman: ssh ?
[22:02] <Yoman> mmvx, doesn't that require login?
[22:03] <HBSC> does anybody know anything about ipod initial setup without itunes?
[22:03] <Doonz> mkanyicy: ok ran ssh-keygen on both servers
[22:03] <mmvx> Yoman unless the sysadmins at google are very lax
[22:03] <mmvx> :)
[22:03] <Yoman> mmvx, I mean the program.. it seems to always try and log me in under my username automatically
[22:04] <redleaf> newser, have you read the grub manual?
[22:04] <mkanyicy> Doonz, ok, scp the public rsa key of server 1 to the ~ directory of server 2
[22:04] <kpas> _dreamy_: it defaults to /var/www/
[22:04] <Yoman> mmvx, or is there an option to make an anomymous connection?
[22:04] <mmvx> Yoman if you use ssh you can log in as a different user with the -l USER or user@ format
[22:04] <Doonz> mkanyicy: done
[22:05] <_dreamy_> kpas: however i whould like to set it to my .. normal user home dir, id like to use my second index.htm
[22:05] <mkanyicy> Doonz, ssh to server2
[22:05] <Doonz> don
[22:05] <Doonz> done*
[22:05] <ChinoChano> guys, what can i do? reminder: upgrading from 9.04 is pain in the arse. gdm won t give me gnome access
[22:05] <mkanyicy> Doonz, mv -vi ~/id_rsa.pub ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:06] <Yoman> mmvx, ok so say I wanted to connect to google on port 80 anomymously with ssh
[22:06] <Doonz> done
[22:06] <nitro_> ahh ici ya du monde lol
[22:06] <mmvx> mkanyicy that needs to be on the remote server no?
[22:06] <dksoba> Is there a way to do a "standby" style reboot? When I come back from standby, all my windows and sessions are still there. I'd like to be able to do this, but when coming back from a reboot. Running 9.10
[22:06] <mmvx> Yoman you'll not be able to do that
[22:06] <bogdan_> hellm
[22:06] <mmvx> you can telnet google.com 80
[22:07] <mmvx> and issue a few commands to GET the web page
[22:07] <bogdan_> ce tare
[22:07] <mkanyicy> Doonz,  scp the id_rsa.pub file to sever1 in the ~ folder
[22:07] <Yoman> mmvx, yea that's exactly what I wanted =) thanks
[22:08] <jtoft> Is there any tool to resize ext3 without having to boot up into a knoppox-like environment? Say, resizing a drive remotely?
[22:08] <Doonz> mkanyicy: and repeat the step
[22:08] <mkanyicy> Doonz, and then CTRL + D to return back to server 1
[22:08] <ChinoChano> i  m installing ubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <mmvx> mkanyicy you can just issue the command: cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh user@server 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'
[22:08] <mkanyicy> Doonz, on server1 : mv -vi ~/id_rsa.pub ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:08] <Doonz> mkanyicy: done
[22:09] <mmvx> mkanyicy then you just get asked for the password once and it's done
[22:09] <mkanyicy> mmvx, i saw your fancy command but I don't trust it
[22:09] <mmvx> mkanyicy I do this for a living
[22:09] <mkanyicy> Doonz, it's done now
[22:09] <Doonz> mkanyicy: now test it out
[22:09] <mkanyicy> Doonz, if it does not work, it will never work
[22:09] <Doonz> here it goes
[22:09] <mkanyicy> Doonz, ?
[22:10] <mkanyicy> Doonz, does it work?
[22:10] <Doonz> crap
[22:10] <Doonz> same thing
[22:10] <mmvx> Doonz
[22:10] <Doonz> server 1 to server 2 works like expected. server 2 to server 1 propmts
[22:11] <mkanyicy> Doonz, mmvx I give up myself
[22:11] <Doonz> mkanyicy:  thanx for trying
[22:11] <ChinoChano> ok so qpt-get update and apt-get upgrade do nothing, cause nothing to be done...
[22:11] <mmvx> Doonz just remove the .ssh/authorized key files
[22:11] <Doonz> mmvx: sorry i wasnt ignoring you on purpose was just trying to follow one set of commands
[22:11] <ChinoChano> i ll try to reboot one last time.
[22:11] <ChinoChano> then I ll have to go for windows...
[22:11] <Doonz> mmvx: on wich server
[22:11] <_cb> After many hours of trying to get sound back I think my best bet is to re-install Ubuntu. Want to keep my dual boot XP and home folder. Any web sites that may tell me how to do that?
[22:11] <Mortal_> hi, I have problems unencrypting my encrypted (encryptfs) home directory after changing login passwords. is this the right place to pose a question about that?
[22:11] <mmvx> Doonz on both
[22:11] <bastid_raZor> Doonz: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152  check this page out.
[22:12] <Doonz> mmvx: done
[22:12] <mmvx> Doonz looking back I think you need to delete the keys too
[22:13] <mmvx> Doonz so your .ssh folders are both empty
[22:13] <Doonz> mmvx: ok 1 sec
[22:13] <mmvx> Doonz then ssh-keygen on both
[22:13] <ChinoChano> mmvx, ok so now i can login. but no menus, nothing. just an empty icon for Computer
[22:14] <Doonz> mmvx: done
[22:14] <mcprtk> is there any irc chatroom for kubuntu???
[22:14] <ChinoChano> no way to logout, ... ctrl alt backspace no longer works here...
[22:14] <mmvx> Doonz then on both servers just run this command: cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh user@otherserver 'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'
[22:15] <mmvx> Doonz what this does is to print the key into the authorized key file on the other server
[22:15] <ChinoChano> ok i had to reboot... i ll try SAFE gnome...
[22:15] <scottj_> Anyone know a good console or curses app that combines ps and top into one? when I run ps it would be nice to be able to scroll through the output and press k on any process to kill it instead of having to type kill and the pid
[22:15] <Doonz> ok gimme a sec
[22:15] <bastid_raZor> Doonz: follow the link i gave you and it will explain how to do what you want.. also troubleshooting if things go wrong..
[22:15] <mmvx> ChicoChano ctrl alt backspace has been removed sadly
[22:15] <ChinoChano> could it be that somehow the upgrade process destroyed my USER's space?
[22:15] <angelo> ciao
[22:15] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i didn t know. but we can put it back it is not a problem
[22:16] <mmvx> ChicoChano it's been removed from default ubuntu install is what I mean
[22:16] <ChinoChano> mmvx, problem is now: has the upgrade crashed my user sessions?
[22:16] <BluesKaj> scottj_, like the system monitor widget ?
[22:16] <scottj_> mmvx: do you know why they did that? (remove c-al-bs)
[22:16] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i understood you. but it s just editing a line in xorg.conf if I eremember properly
[22:16] <scottj_> BluesKaj: haven't useed that, but I'm looking for somethign consoley
[22:17] <bastid_raZor> scottj_: htop or top
[22:17] <mmvx> ChicoChano you can check if your home dir is ok? Do you get to a login prompt in gdm?
[22:17] <scottj_> bastid_raZor: will those let me kill the processes?
[22:17] <mmvx> scottj_ no not sure, protecting us from ourselves :)
[22:17] <Doonz> mmvx: ok done
[22:17] <BluesKaj> well scottj_, it's a biy guiie , but it has kill options
[22:17] <netbook> How can I rollback gdm to 2.20?
[22:17] <BluesKaj> bit
[22:17] <bastid_raZor> scottj_: htop will, let me look at top
[22:18] <bastid_raZor> scottj_: yes, top can also
[22:18] <mmvx> Doonz you should have been asked for a password on both occasions, and now if things worked out ok you'll not!
[22:18] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:18] <Doonz> ok let me test
[22:18] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:18] <plustax2> HELP!
[22:18] <netbook> I type 'gdm --version' and it says it failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager
[22:19] <bastid_raZor> netbook: apt-cache policy gdm
[22:20] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i logged from f2 and my home and docs are ok.
[22:20] <plustax2> ??
[22:20] <mmvx> ChicoChano that's a good start
[22:20] <ChinoChano> but in gdm when i type in the password, it s just BUGGED. awfully bugged.
[22:21] <Doonz> mmvx: still the same problem server1 to server2 works. server2 to server1 doesnt
[22:21] <mmvx> Doonz ARGH
[22:21] <theclaw> hi
[22:21] <Doonz> :~/.ssh$ ssh -o PreferredAuthenticationspublickey private.com
[22:21] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:21] <Doonz> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[22:21] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:21] <mmvx> Doonz I'm going to sit in the corner with mkanyicy
[22:21] <bastid_raZor> Doonz: you have to do the same for 2 to 1 to work. create the key on two and send it to one.
[22:21] <mkanyicy> Doonz, mmvx this beyond public key sharing
[22:21] <ChinoChano> reinstalling GDM now...
[22:22] <mmvx> Doonz you can log in though using password?
[22:22] <bastid_raZor> mmvx: mkanyicy if eithre of you would have looked at the page i gave Doonz you would clearly see it is possible.
[22:22] <theclaw> when using two displays, is it possible in Gnome to change on which display the panels (ubuntu menu, taskbar, ...) get displayed?
[22:22] <Doonz> bastid_raZor: thanx but that is the guide i followed
[22:22] <mkanyicy> mmvx, Doonz perhaps there is a proxy server / firewall
[22:22] <mmvx> bastid_raZor thanks
[22:22] <Doonz> mkanyicy: no
[22:22] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:22] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:23] <ChinoChano> Does Ubuntu use GDM?
[22:23] <lstarnes> ChinoChano: yes
[22:23] <ChinoChano> ok
[22:23] <ChinoChano> well... another try then
[22:23] <Doonz> mkanyicy: if it was firewall or proxe i would not be able to connect
[22:23] <brokenbyte> hello
[22:23] <netbook> How can I rollback gdm to 2.20?
[22:23] <mkanyicy> Doonz, u r right
[22:23] <mmvx> Doonz how long have you had the servers up?
[22:23] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:24] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:24] <rev42> could you please also ask the folks at support@sharkoon.com to develop or support linux drivers, because they seem to just ignore ubuntu and linux :( let's tell them that lot's of people use linux these days.
[22:24] <mmvx> Doonz the default ssh config allows passwordless logins using keys in ubuntu
[22:24] <shailen> while installing redcar, upon a 'rake build' command, I get extconf.rb:13:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf-gnome2 (LoadError)
[22:24] <mkanyicy> bastid_raZor, so, you say you can fix this problem Doonz is facing?
[22:24] <mmvx> Doonz so if nothing has changed in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config files
[22:24] <Doonz> mmvx: only a few days, i just tried restarting the ssh server on server2
[22:24] <Doonz> and got some errors
[22:24] <mmvx> Doonz what were they?
[22:25] <shailen> I am not able to find mkmf-gnome2 ...
[22:25] <ChinoChano> i am connecting to SAFE-gnome session...
[22:25] <Doonz> oh wait
[22:25] <Doonz> 1 sec
[22:25] <mmvx> Doonz if you are able to (i.e. you can get to the box some other way) it may be worth doing a purge and reinstall
[22:25] <ChinoChano> no icons, no menus, no panels, nothing
[22:25] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:25] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:25] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:25] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:25] <FloodBot3> plustax2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <plustax2> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[22:25] <mmvx> Doonz of ssh, but it seems very unlikely that anything is wrong
[22:25] <Doonz> mmvx: cant physically access the box
[22:26] <bastid_raZor> mkanyicy: if the guide is followed from both machines then yes, the guide will have it working.
[22:26] <plustax2> Can anyone help me out?
[22:26] <Doonz> its like server1 has some permission set that server2 doesnt
[22:26] <mmvx> bastid_raZor we did that
[22:26] <enduser000> hello, can anyone tell me how to put different wallpapers on different workspaces with ubutnu 9.10 like on the slide show on http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[22:26] <ChinoChano> mmvx, how can i exit "properly" the X session then?
[22:26] <plustax2> I have been posting this question for an hour. Can anyone help me out?
[22:26] <ChinoChano> i am in a session, crappy and not the one is supposed to be... and can t exit..
[22:27] <shailen> Can anyone help me with the mkmf-gnome2 not being available issue? Thanks!
[22:27] <mkanyicy> bastid_raZor, but I think mmvx and i tried to follow right methods but still it never worked
[22:27] <mmvx> ChicoChano you can restart gdm by dropping to F2 and sudo service gdm stop/start/restart
[22:27] <elechunter> list
[22:27] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:27] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:27] <ChinoChano> mmvx, ok thanjs
[22:27] <plustax2> what do i do?
[22:27] <snake> Is thare a way to take my window border off of my terminal in Ubuntu 9.10 GNOME
[22:28] <plustax2> snake use AWN terminal if you have it. No border on that one.
[22:28] <mkanyicy> user terminator, snake "terminater -b" is borderless
[22:28] <Doonz> im so confused
[22:28] <mkanyicy> user terminator, snake "terminator -b" is borderless
[22:28] <mmvx> bastid_raZor testament to the fact that the methods work is that on both occasions passwordless login worked from one to other
[22:28] <ChinoChano> mmvx, ... and could it be the last GNOME session was corrupted? which files do i have to delete then?
[22:28] <plustax2> mkanyicy,
[22:28] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work
[22:28] <plustax2> I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything
[22:29] <plustax2> Can you help me? will SOMEONE fcking help me?
[22:29] <elechunter> !list
[22:29] <DeeTah> how do I figure out which sata driver module have I got installed?
[22:29] <Doonz> mmvx: would posting my sshd config files from both servers help
[22:29] <mmvx> ChicoChano are you saying that when you log in you get a session but it's a mess
[22:29] <dug_> I upgraded my server to karmic, works fine. Removed the 2nd hard drive tho (empty), and now it won't boot, just a flashing cursor. Holding shift doesn't load grub, I checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:29] <mmvx> Doonz if you saw some errors, then posting them might give us a clue
[22:29] <Doonz> mmvx: yes dont restart the daemon without sudo
[22:29] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work. I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything. Will someone PLEASE help me?
[22:29] <ChinoChano> mmvx, in USER1 i get NOTHING but a frozen system. under USER2 i get an empty COMPUTER icon and no menus, panels, nothing
[22:30] <plustax2> big problem guys. I cant move my mouse and my keyboard doesnt work. I hit show mouse though and it moves but there is no pointer and I cant click anything. Will someone PLEASE help me?
[22:30] <mmvx> Doonz but it's the ssh server on server1 thats a problem?
[22:30] <ChinoChano> plustax, reboot?
[22:30] <Doonz> mmvx it seems like it
[22:30] <plustax2> Im afraid to just turn the button off. wont that screw it up ChinoChano
[22:30] <elliotjhug> plustax2, everyone here is a volunteer - chill out and wait - if someone knows the answer they'll help you - people might be thinking of ideas
[22:30] <plustax2> ?
[22:30] <ChinoChano> plustax, restart graphical interface?
[22:30] <mkanyicy> Doonz, but I support that suggestion of mmvx that if you can, completely remove ssh server on both servers and reinstall it afresh
[22:30] <ChinoChano> do you have jeyboard access?
[22:30] <mmvx> Doonz and server1 is local? You can access it physically?
[22:30] <plustax2> ChinoChano, how do I do that with no keyboard or mouse access?
[22:30] <DeeTah> how do I figure out which sata driver module have I got installed?
[22:30] <lstarnes> plustax2: I think it is an issue with X's input hotplugging
[22:31] <ChinoChano> plustax, ok so let s try the magic seq.:
[22:31] <lstarnes> plustax2: I managed to work around it by manually configuring the keyboard and mouse device
[22:31] <Doonz> not that local
[22:31] <mmvx> ChicoChano you say the new user you created has no panel, no menus, nothing?
[22:31] <syockit> plustax2: you're gonna lose any unsaved changes to any open document. other than that, damage is minimal
[22:31] <mmvx> Doonz ah. pity
[22:31] <syockit> plustax2: yeah, like ChinoChano said, try the magic seq
[22:31] <plustax2> okay so just cut the power then? :/
[22:31] <lstarnes> plustax2: there might be a trick involving alt+sysrq that can fix the keyboard
[22:31] <lstarnes> plustax2: hold on
[22:31] <plustax2> ok
[22:32] <ChinoChano> you hit SIMULTANEOUSLY CTRL ALT AND SYSREQ AND KEEPING THEM PUSHED YOU HIT the following sequence: R E U I S B
[22:32] <ChinoChano> plustax, this is the sysreq sequence to reboot properly.
[22:32] <lstarnes> ChinoChano: not yet
[22:32] <ChinoChano> go for it :)
[22:32] <mun_> what's a good way to remove windows end line characters ^M from a file?
[22:32] <lstarnes> plustax2: before trying that
[22:32] <syockit> plustax2, ChinoChano: I'd wait between E and U though
[22:32] <lstarnes> plustax2: just do alt+sysrq+R, then try ctrl+alt+f2
[22:32] <plustax2> oh my god. That sequence.
[22:32] <plustax2> It's beautiful.
[22:32] <lstarnes> plustax2: if that fails, then use the full sequence
[22:33] <FireFighter> I'm trying to partition my HDD. I'm making a swap partition and I keep getting this error: swapon: /dev/sda2: Device or resource busy
[22:33] <ChinoChano> syockit, of course, go with calm. as in an enchantment, you must pronounce clearly all the words :)
[22:33] <plustax2> worked great
[22:33] <plustax2> thanks for your help guys
[22:33] <syockit> ChinoChano: wasn't it REISUB?
[22:33] <ChinoChano> :)
[22:34] <lstarnes> U must be after S
[22:34] <ChinoChano> syockit,  RAW       UNMOUNT REBOOT
[22:34] <ChinoChano> ok sorry then
[22:34] <enduser000> can anyone tell me how to put different wallpapers on different workspaces with ubutnu 9.10 like on the slide show on http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[22:34] <mun_> what's a good way to remove windows carriage return characters ^M from a file?
[22:34] <ChinoChano> mmvx, i did not create a new user. both users were already existing users, and i don t know how to create a new user..
[22:34] <enduser000> mun_: geany will do that for you
[22:34] <syockit> lstarnes: so after R usually it's possible to go to tty?
[22:34] <lstarnes> syockit: it should be
[22:34] <plustax2> enduser000, use ubuntu tweak and let compiz draw your wallpaper!
[22:34] <tertitten> there's no firewall turned on by default in ubuntu 9.10 right ?
[22:35] <lstarnes> tertitten: there is
[22:35] <sirblargh> mun_: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/150/remove-m-characters-at-end-of-lines-in-vi/
[22:35] <acicula> FiReSTaRT:  tried swapoff /dev/sda2 ?
[22:35] <VCoolio> enduser000: with compiz, the wallpaper plugin; you'll loose your desktop icons though
[22:35] <lstarnes> tertitten: but it is set to allow everything by default
[22:35] <enduser000> plustax2: thanks, I'll check on that
[22:35] <tertitten> lstarnes: ufw ?
[22:35] <redline> hi everyone
[22:35] <lstarnes> tertitten: ufw and iptables
[22:35] <mun_> thanks
[22:35] <enduser000> VCollio: ?, is that the tweak method?
[22:35] <acicula> lstarnes: there is a firewall, but it doesnt do anything by default
[22:35] <plustax2> VCoolio, actually I have a question about that too. I did that and have different wallpapers. But Im trying to make it so I can use icons on the desktop again
[22:35] <plustax2> what do I do?
[22:35] <ChinoChano> guys, after an upgrade to 9.10 i have a weird beahaviour on gdm and i can t get any session... any bell?
[22:35] <tertitten> lstarnes: how do I switch it all of temporarly ?
[22:35] <lstarnes> acicula: I know that
[22:35] <lstarnes> tertitten: you cannot disable iptables
[22:35] <VCoolio> enduser000: no, ubuntu-tweak also possible, does the same I think
[22:36] <enduser000> VCoolio: ok thanks
[22:36] <VCoolio> plustax2: use the folderview screenlet
[22:36] <lstarnes> tertitten: but for ufw, try sudo ufw disable (sudo ufw enable reenables)
[22:36] <dirkson> Hey all. Ubuntu tells me this for the proprietary ATI driver install: "Driver is activated but not being used" - So how do I use it?
[22:36] <VCoolio> plustax2: other than that I wouldn't know, but I don't use compiz or desktop icons
[22:36] <redline> can someone help me with a small issue i am having with a smb mount.  anytime i write a file/dir to the mount it gets the wrong permission.  any idea?
[22:37] <tertitten> lstarnes: ok, my problem is that mediatomb all of a sudden stopped being detected by my PS3, want to switch it all of to troubleshoot. ...
[22:37] <jMyles> I have a Dell Studio laptop that is being weird with DVDs.  I have installed restricted extras and VLC.  It reads the DVD and brings up the menu, but playing the DVD causes it to stop.  This behavior occurs with many different DVDs and different players.
[22:37] <acicula> !dvd
[22:37] <lstarnes> tertitten: ufw and iptables are almost certainly not causing that
[22:37] <acicula> jMyles: check that link, particularly the bit about setting the regiocode for the dvd player
[22:37] <acicula> *region
[22:37] <bastid_raZor> !medibuntu | jMyles check this page out too.
[22:37] <syockit> dirkson: try the restricted drivers manager
[22:38] <dirkson> syockit: Where? Synaptic?
[22:38] <tertitten> lstarnes: all I know is that port 1900 needs to be allowed trough for the PS3 to see mediatomb, if somehow there's all of a sudden a rule blocking port 1900 ....
[22:38] <Edo> Hey all, who here has some experience in openvpn and ethernet bridging?
[22:38] <lstarnes> tertitten: unless you made a rule, it wouldn't be doing that
[22:39] <ChinoChano> mmvx, it seems to be something with gdm
[22:39] <lstarnes> tertitten: check the connection between your system and your PS3
[22:39] <syockit> dirkson: ah, in Karmic, it's System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[22:39] <ChinoChano> how can i downgrade?
[22:39] <dirkson> syockit: Thanks
[22:40] <mmvx> ChicoChano drop down to terminal (F2) and sudo adduser YourUsernameOfChoice
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> ChinoChano: make a newuser and try again. see if it isn't just some config file that is mucking with it.
[22:41] <Edo> So far I have followed the ubuntu docs in setting up the openvpn. I've managed to start the server and have connected to it, but that's it. I can get anythign to go through the openvpn network.
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> mmvx: my thoughts exactly.
[22:41] <ChinoChano> mmvx, bastid_raZor it is in GDM the problem I think... i can t see properly the prompts nor the users...
[22:41] <Edo> I'm pretty sure it has something to do with my ethernet bridging issues
[22:42] <ChinoChano> i restart it, but there s always something dodgy
[22:42] <Edo> any ideas guys?
[22:42] <gokey> i just plugged my microsoft wireless keyboard and its typing the wrong charactors
[22:43] <ChinoChano> mmvx, bastid_raZor i created the new user...
[22:43] <BluesKaj> gokey, system admin settings for locale and keyboard
[22:43] <ChinoChano> again, no nice window to type in the pepito password...
[22:43] <ChinoChano> (pepito is new useR)
[22:43] <mmvx> ChicoChano now log in as them at gdm prompt (restart gdm if need be)
[22:43] <RubbberDucky> I have a Presonus Audio Interface and I was wondering if it will be possible to use it with ubuntu.
[22:44] <ChinoChano> mmvx, done.
[22:44] <Mortal_> when you change your password through the gui and you have ecryptfs encryption enabled, will the home directory be rewrapped with the new password?
[22:44] <ChinoChano> i have the default 9.10 background i guess...
[22:44] <dirkson> syockit: Ok, the user I'm trying to support doesn't know what to click, and I can't see the damn gui to tell him. Which bit should he be clicking on here?
[22:44] <lstarnes> Mortal_: I think so
[22:44] <mmvx> ChicoChano and any menus etc?
[22:44] <marco> hi, at the beginning of the boot process there is a message that says "Try (hd(0,0): NTFS 5: no wubildr" that takes one miute to disappear. is there a way to make it go away?
[22:44] <ChinoChano> no panels. no icons, nothing except the right click
[22:44] <ChinoChano> nothing else...
[22:45] <ChinoChano> alt f2 or f1 (run command) no working neither
[22:45] <syockit> dirkson: hmm I'm not sure how it appears like when not yet installed. and I installed mine through some other way
[22:45] <ChinoChano> this is completely fucked. HATE this
[22:45] <gokey> blueskaj, i dont see keyboard in admin
[22:45] <dirkson> syockit: *shakes his finger at you*
[22:45] <jibadeeha> Mortal_, yes
[22:46] <ChinoChano> F1 pops up the Ubuntu HELP... :S
[22:46] <Edo> no one? openvpn know how?
[22:46] <Mortal_> ok, thanks lstarnes and jibadeeha
[22:46] <schnoggo> Is this a good place to ask for basic sound configuration help? Or is there a more appropriate channel?
[22:46] <ChinoChano> the gnome panel belongs to which package?
[22:47] <ChinoChano> i m fed up
[22:47] <ChinoChano> no time for this.
[22:47] <ChinoChano> thanks guys, anyway, but this has been useless.
[22:47] <ChinoChano> FKING upgrades. really.
[22:47] <ChinoChano> amazing.
[22:47] <ChinoChano> night guys
[22:48] <Mortal_> my sister has an encrypted homedir, and she changed her password through the GUI. I changed it back with passwd. now the encrypted homedir won't mount - will I have to change login password back to the "new" password and try and pass that to the ecrypt-* tools instead? if the encrypted store has been rewrapped, that is
[22:48] <gokey> when i type M on my wireless keyboard, it comes out Q
[22:48] <syockit> dirkson: I understand your feeling. https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html
[22:48] <Aquaraptor> is it bluetooth?
[22:48] <gokey> no
[22:48] <gokey> usb
[22:48] <Aquaraptor> maybe some kind of rfi?
[22:48] <mike_k> dhclient is being weird
[22:49] <mike_k> its sending a dhcpdiscover on eth0 as expected, but on wlan0, its requesting the same ip as it had on the last network
[22:49] <mike_k> which is NOT working since the new network uses a different range
[22:49] <BluesKaj> gokey, sorry i use kde and the sttings are different then gnome , try to access your KB settings and change the KB locale
[22:49] <mike_k> im not even sure where its getting the old ip from...
[22:50] <sonixen> helo
[22:50] <Jeruvy> !hi | sonixen
[22:50] <gokey> blueskaj, tried it, nothing
[22:50] <sonixen> if one of us is from uk?
[22:51] <Jeruvy> sonixen: this is a support channel, if you want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:51] <dirkson> syockit: Thank you ^^ That is resoundingly useful
[22:51] <mike_k> anyone have any idea? <.<
[22:52] <sonixen> ok sorry everyone see you next time good thing for all
[22:52] <mmvx> mike_k how is wlan0 configured?
[22:53] <triple_x> gokey walked in on the end of your issue been do dishes what is your problem a keyboard issue????
[22:53] <mike_k> mmvx: it has no ip address
[22:53] <mike_k> i tried putting in a random one
[22:53] <mike_k> and dhclient somehow still tries to get the old one
[22:53] <mike_k> i have no idea how it even knows what the old one was
[22:53] <mike_k> it wasnt configured statically, it shouldnt be stored anywhere at all
[22:53] <gokey> triple_x, plugged in my wireless usb keyboard
[22:54] <gokey> and the layout is wrong
[22:54] <gokey> triple_x, preferences doesnt seem to fix the issue
[22:54] <jMyles> acicula: Thanks for the response on the DVD issue - that did it.  Also thanks to bastid_raZor
[22:54] <triple_x> did you to to preferences and keyboard
[22:54] <gokey> laptop keyboard works fine, as i am using it
[22:54] <schnoggo> Just built a new m4a785td based machine for home theater. (AM3, onboard everything). Fresh install of Karmic. Not getting sound from any analog or digital port. Suggestions?
[22:55] <Nete_> Hello, my audio driver just stopped working I think. No sound.
[22:55] <mmvx> mike_k is it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:55] <ubuntu> hello
[22:55] <baz_> anybody know why when use fsck with the -v flag, i get no output
[22:56] <trijntje> !sound | schnoggo
[22:56] <mike_k> mmvx: nope, interfaces only has settings for eth0
[22:56] <converge> im looking for a web host to host my website, somebody can recomend someone?
[22:56] <converge> with php;mysql
[22:56] <ubuntu>  i can't get into ubuntu studio my monitor says out of range?
[22:56] <trijntje> !sound | Nete_,
[22:56] <mmvx> mike_k and usually it uses network manager?
[22:56] <chiques> how do I find my password through xterm?
[22:57] <mike_k> mmvx: nope, its all done by hand. i have no x server installed
[22:57] <mmvx> ah ok
[22:57] <mmvx> mike_k so how do you tell it which network it's on?
[22:57] <ubuntu> how can i change mi resolucion?
[22:57] <mike_k> mmvx: i put it on the network with iwconfig
[22:58] <mmvx> mike_k ifconfig wlan0 network x.x.x.x?
[22:58] <ubuntu>   if theres nothing that set up with my monitor?
[22:58] <gokey> triple_x, any idea?
[22:58] <Diverdude> where is adobe acrobat reader installed? I need to select an application to open pdf files with from a program
[22:58] <mike_k> mmvx: i'd try a static IP but i cant remember the range :P
[22:58] <mike_k> its 10.x.y.0-255
[22:58] <mike_k> x and y are random.
[22:58] <triple_x> gokey I have a similar keyboard/mouse (the cordless desktop S 510), and I often have the same problem.
[22:58] <triple_x> Mine is nothing to do with ubuntu, it's just the poor signal strength of the logitech cordless desktop products. You mention that pressing ctrl+alt+del will restore functionality. The key to that is that by pressing ctrl+alt+del, you are probably slightly and naturally repositioning yourself or the keyboard, temporarily providing a clear path for the signal. When you again become comfortable...
[22:58] <triple_x> ...then your signal goes away.
[22:59] <FloodBot3> triple_x: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <triple_x> I'm not saying you're not having a bug, I would just suggest conclusively eliminating the possibility of signal or battery or hardware problems, as your description of the problem exactly describes signal and battery problems.
[22:59] <schnoggo> ubottu: Double-clicking volume control does not bring up anything. hovering shows my currently selsected output device.
[22:59] <mmvx> mike_k I see what you mean
[22:59] <triple_x> gokey https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/305955
[22:59] <mike_k> ill try running tcpdump to find the range
[22:59] <Steve132> hi
[23:00] <mike_k> worked :D
[23:00] <syockit> schnoggo: right click it, select sound preferences. umm, what was it about again?
[23:00] <Steve132> I'm using karmic on amd64, and I'm getting the same thing as this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/390230
[23:00] <luis_> Jesus christ i need help i am desesperated already! for some reason firefox download helper conversions are failing!!! but in christmas i could download and convert a song to mp3 from youtube, whats happening people...!
[23:00] <Steve132> It says "fix released" but gives no details of what that means
[23:00] <Doonz> fix it home dir was chomd to 777
[23:00] <Steve132> I've tried different install options/locations
[23:01] <mmvx> mike_k you'd think dhclient would handle it all, I'll remember that
[23:02] <luis_> Jesus christ i need help i am desesperated already! for some reason firefox download helper conversions are failing!!! but before christmas i could download and convert any song from flv to mp3 from youtube, whats happening people...!?
[23:02] <Diverdude> where is adobe acrobat reader installed? I need to select an application to open pdf files with from a program
[23:02] <mmvx> luis_ that is indeed critically important
[23:02] <luis_> for me is...
[23:03] <luis_> cannot live without my music...
[23:03] <mmvx> mmvx has anything changed on your system
[23:03] <syockit> Steve132: fix released: it's already fixed in the latest package, yay! now, if only they backport it to our version...
[23:03] <jMyles> With ipod nano, user can copy files to the ipod nano (it acts like a USB flash drive) but it will not play from the device.
[23:03] <mmvx> oops luis_ has anything changed on your system
[23:03] <mkanyicy> luis_, still wrestling with that? try avidemux or winff
[23:03] <mneptok> luis_: there's really no need to potentially offend Christians in asking for help.
[23:03] <Steve132> syockit: so, what does that mean?  How can I install a copy of karmic koala when the installer is broken?
[23:04] <liar> jMyles: you could install rockbox on the nano :)
[23:04] <Steve132> Like, I'm not gonna switch to ubuntu if the installer doesn't work
[23:04] <triple_x> gokey after reading around seems more like a driver issue then a keyboard issue???
[23:04] <jMyles> liar: I'll look up rockbox.  What does it do and why do you recommend it?
[23:04] <luis_> Wait... WHAT?! if I say jesus christ is a form of expression of exclamation, not a offense ¬¬
[23:04] <luis_> anyway firefox download helper can only use ffmpeg as encoder
[23:04] <Steve132> are there any steps I can take to fix it?
[23:04] <mneptok> luis_: it's uncalled for
[23:05] <luis_> sorry then..!
[23:05] <liar> jMyles: its an alternative to the apple os
[23:05] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, type "which acroread"
[23:05] <babaroga> Hi , I want to get involved in someway in developing ubuntu , what do you recommend ?
[23:05] <liar> jMyles: and you dont need any sync software like itunes with it
[23:05] <luis_> babaroga
[23:06] <babaroga> yes luis_
[23:06] <luis_> babaroga: if u really wanna get involved in helping ubuntu, u could really help us my creating a code than in some way, manage to reproduce various audios without Nvidia sound driver crash
[23:06] <Steve132> So... if the installer for Karmic is broken
[23:06] <mkanyicy> babaroga, go to ubuntu.com and read everything you can see on how you can get involved
[23:06] <Steve132> I guess I should go back to win7?
[23:06] <syockit> Steve132: the fix will only be present in (A) new Karmic Koala installer CD (like 9.10.1 or something), or (B) the next Ubuntu release (10.04)
[23:06] <luis_> example: i cannot reproduce youtube and amarok at same time, because the audio crashes and u dont get sound babaroga
[23:06] <liar> jMyles: but it only works with the first and second gen nano
[23:07] <luis_> that would be a REAL help!
[23:07] <marekw2143> hi, what is zziplib responsible for ?
[23:07] <syockit> Steve132: so you have to try any workaround suggested there
[23:07] <mmvx> babaroga I have a feeling luis_ may not give you totally impartial advice :)
[23:07] <sacho_> Ubuntu 9.04 seems to hang during certain events related to my wireless network(ie, switching from wired to wireless after going home from work, or when my wireless network has problems). Where could I even begin debugging this?
[23:07] <Needs_Help> how can i get my tablet pen to work in ubuntu
[23:07] <luis_> mmvx ¬¬
[23:07] <babaroga> luis_ sorry but I'm not that geek to do that
[23:07] <luis_> hahahaha! thats why no one do its my friend xD
[23:07] <mmvx> luis_ I don't know what that means
[23:07] <trijntje> Needs_Help, google the model etc
[23:07] <Diverdude> mkanyicy, then i get /usr/bin/acroread   but when i do cd /usr/bin/acroread it says not a directory ??
[23:07] <ubuntu> i can't change my resolution
[23:08] <ubuntu> y can't get into ubuntu studio
[23:08] <Steve132> Ok, so 9.10.1 doesn't exist, does that mean I should do... what, exactly?
[23:08] <mmvx> babaroga there is plenty of advice on the ubuntu forums about getting involved
[23:08] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, thats a binary file not an directory
[23:08] <bastid_raZor> Diverdude: /usr/bin/ is a the directory and acroread ia the binary in that directory
[23:08] <bastid_raZor> Diverdude: what are you trying to do?
[23:08] <Steve132> I mean, the installer just fails no matter what I do, and the Bug page there has no suggestions
[23:08] <jMyles> liar: the user is concerned that the video record function may not work.  According to their website, rockbox does appear to support nano 5th gen, which we believe this to be.
[23:08] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, not necessarily binary
[23:08] <mmvx> Steve132 does it just fail at installing grub?
[23:09] <luis_> i need help i am desesperated already! for some reason firefox download helper conversions are failing!!! but before christmas i could download and convert any song from flv to mp3 from youtube, whats happening people...!?
[23:09] <jMyles> liar: Do you know of others who have had this same problem?  Can you point us to a forum or anything?
[23:09] <liar> jMyles: no it doesnt support the 5th gen nano
[23:09] <syockit> Steve132: hmm, I suppose you're getting this error because you wanted to put grub on something else other than the disk itself, right?
[23:09] <Steve132> Yes
[23:09] <jtaji> Diverdude: the default PDF viewer is /usr/bin/evince .... do you really need acrobat in particular/have you installed it?
[23:09] <Steve132> syockit: no
[23:09] <syockit> Steve132: full regular install?
[23:09] <babaroga> What do you think about MOTU team, is that difficult ?
[23:09] <Steve132> syockit: yes
[23:09] <mmvx> luis_ what has changed on your system
[23:09] <liar> jMyles: i havent seen all messages. whats the problem?
[23:10] <luis_> mmvx what u mean?
[23:10] <minimec> Needs_Help: Tablet pens usually ned a seperate udev rule, as otherwise they are seen by the X server as mouse devices. do 'lsusb' in a console and check the XXX:XXX number of the tablet device. then google for 'udev xxx:xxx'
[23:10] <Mortal_> Steve132, if the problem is specific to ubiquity (the graphical installer), you could try the alternate installer
[23:10] <Steve132> ok
[23:10] <marco> I have a dvd with data and I would like to add some photos to it. what program should I use?
[23:11] <mmvx> luis_ well it used to work, now it doesn't so something must have changed
[23:11] <luis_> mmvx what has changed is than now there is a notice when u finish downloading an flv and trying to convert it to mp3 saying: Conversion of X song failed, download again, and again... and again...
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> marco: k3b, brasero, nautilus...
[23:11] <Steve132> Mortal_: so try the text-mode installer from the alternate?
[23:11] <mkanyicy> babaroga, read everything you can from here, it will give you all the info you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[23:11] <NoCode> What can I do about Karmic making those thumping sounds? It seems like when the speakers are not in use something turns something off and it makes the speakers thump. Happens every few minutes
[23:11] <luis_> mmvx i dont have touched anything referring to sound or conversion with the terminal
[23:11] <Mortal_> yeah Steve132, I guess, I'm no ubuntu installer pro, but that would be my immediate thought
[23:11] <marco> thanks bastid_raZor
[23:11] <mmvx> luis_ have you updated downloadhelper recently?
[23:11] <luis_> everything was intact
[23:11] <luis_> nop!
[23:11] <luis_> let me check...
[23:11] <mmvx> luis_ is there an update available?
[23:11] <fsufitch> hey, i have problems charging my laptop battery. even when plugged in, it loses charge at a slow rate, and the power manager always says that "Laptop battery is fully charged"
[23:11] <syockit> Steve132: if this happens at the end of the whole installation (i.e. you saw it copy the files etc) you probably just need to fix the grub thing. which I don't have much info....
[23:11] <Steve132> syockit:  I have a hardware raid setup, so would that cause the problem?  You mentioned "Installing it on just the disk"
[23:12] <mmvx> luis_ that extension seems to be updated all the time
[23:12] <Mortal_> Steve132, the bug report you linked to says it's specific to ubiquity, but from the nature of the problem it could sound like you'll get the same problems with the alt. installer
[23:12] <Diverdude> mkanyicy, thank you
[23:12] <syockit> oh g-RAID.
[23:12] <luis_> jesus! there is an actualization! let me try it
[23:12] <afroman> Dr_Willis: hej willis
[23:12] <luis_> thanks dude, i mean mmvx
[23:12] <Steve132> Mortal_: thats what I'm concerned about
[23:12] <mkanyicy> Diverdude, no prob
[23:12] <mmvx> Steve123 is there anything special about your disk configuration
[23:13] <Steve132> mmvx: I mentioned I have a hardware RAID mirror setup
[23:13] <Steve132> but I don't see how that would actually matter
[23:13] <Bennit> haai
[23:13] <Steve132> its hardware-level
[23:13] <MaT-dg1> When I select an image for the skydome in compiz there's a gradient overlay on top of it
[23:13] <Steve132> so the OS shouldn't even be aware of it
[23:13] <Steve132> in theory
[23:14] <Bennit> anyone has an idea where the remote opened directories are mounted when done through the connect menu?
[23:14] <mmvx> Steve132 you see it as one block of free space in the partitioner?
[23:14] <Steve132> YEs
[23:14] <Bennit> (sftp dir)
[23:14] <Steve132> mmvx: Yes
[23:14] <babaroga> is testing Lucid in VirtualBox effective, or it needs a partition ?
[23:14] <mkanyicy> curious about the status on the support of Compro Videomate T750F tv tuner card, if anyone knows a info or a link, please update me
[23:15] <minimec> babaroga: For hardware testing, you need to install it on the host, otherwise you only test the virtualbox driver ;)
[23:15] <syockit> hmm does grub2 support raid?
[23:16] <mkanyicy> Bennit, what do you want to do, want to mount by nautilus and use terminal to navigate to those folders?
[23:16] <mmvx> Steve132 do you have much experience with grub?
[23:16] <fsufitch> can someone help me with power problems? the power manager says "State: fully charged", but "Percentage: 14.2%", and I can't get my laptop to charge. screenshot of power manager info here: http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy322/fsufitch/Screenshot-PowerStatistics-DeviceIn.png
[23:16] <syockit> Steve132: try checking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[23:16] <Aquaraptor> wow that's a nice utility, fsufitch
[23:16] <Steve132> syockit: Hardware RAID, not Software RAID
[23:16] <Bennit> mkanyicy: yes
[23:16] <mmvx> syockit it's hardware raid
[23:16] <syockit> raid looks creepy
[23:16] <syockit> arr
[23:17] <fsufitch> Aquaraptor, it's the default that comes with ubuntu, if i right click on my battery and click power history
[23:17] <Aquaraptor> huh
[23:17] <Neriko> I'm having issues with my internet. No matter what browser I use(firefox, opera) I can't access secure websites. Anyone know why?
[23:17] <Steve132> mmvc: A little bit...I understand a little of how it works and I've repaired grub before on an ubuntu 8.10 install
[23:17] <Steve132> mmvx: see above^
[23:17] <mmvx> Steve132 there is a way in which you can boot into a live cd and then mount the install partition, chroot into it and try to install grub from there
[23:17] <user___> can someone help me out with cups? i cant find it anywhere. it doesnt appear to be installed, but the package is.
[23:18] <mmvx> Steve132 but it's a bit tricky and may not work
[23:18] <Steve132> mmvx: ok, I think I've actually done that before...but can you maybe walk me through it?
[23:18] <Steve132> or point me somewhere?
[23:18] <Snausages> user___: go to http://127.0.0.1:631 and you'll see it
[23:18] <triple_x> Sacho: follow this link good luck https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/305955
[23:18] <mkanyicy> Bennit, I really don't know, if i were u, i'd ssh to the remote machine and navigate there with terminal, and use scp or midnight commander to transfer files. maybe try to install the add-on for nautilus that makes you rightlick on a folder and then open terminal on that specific location.
[23:18] <mmvx> Steve132 I think there's a guide somewhere, but it refers to grub 1, although there shouldn't be much difference
[23:18] <adac> Is it possible to create a new user with an encrypted home partition?
[23:18] <Sacho> triple_x: <3 thanks.
[23:18] <Snausages> user___: it's all web interface, so follow that link and if it's in and running you'll be at the admin screen
[23:18] <Steve132> I don't actually care at this point
[23:19] <mmvx> Steve132 basically you exit the install as cleanly as possible
[23:19] <Steve132> Yeah, after the error the install quits itself
[23:19] <Steve132> I'm looking at the liveCD desktop right now
[23:19] <mmvx> Steve132 then boot into the live cd, find your install partition in /dev/ and mount it somewhere like /mnt/target
[23:19] <user___> Snausages, that doesnt load for me :(
[23:19] <Steve132> ok
[23:19] <mkanyicy> adac, but why this obssession with encryption nowadays?
[23:20] <marco> anyone knows how to remove the 2 seconds pause in brasero?
[23:20] <mmvx> Steve132 I'll have a look for the guide because I think you need to mount /dev in the chroot
[23:20] <Neriko> My connection problem only happens with my account...the other account on my machine works perfectly
[23:20] <Snausages> user___: then perhaps cups is not running.  Wish I knew more but that's all I had for you.
[23:20] <triple_x> Sacho: wrong link sorry oppss https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/troubleshooting.html
[23:20] <mkanyicy> marco, no one knows that
[23:20] <Bennit> mkanyicy: I was unzipping remotely :p
[23:21] <user___> Snausages, thanks, appreciate any help.
[23:21] <adac> mkanyicy, If I wouldn't had my usb stick encrypted (the whole stick) then now someone, the one who stole it,  would have all my projects and data
[23:21] <Bennit> anyways, coppied them to my machine since I have to leave anyway
[23:21] <Bennit> thanks anyways , cya'll
[23:21] <mmvx> Steve132 here it is - the bottom half of the first post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[23:21] <CharlesR> installed ubuntu 9.10 on a AMD 550 mHz with 768 meg memory. it works, but so slow as to be unusable. the same machine, with much less memory then, did great with win2k. any way to speed it up?
[23:22] <mkanyicy> adac, ahhaaa, know I know, thanks
[23:22] <mkanyicy> CharlesR, disable compiz
[23:23] <mkanyicy> CharlesR, use bigger swap partition
[23:23] <Neriko> Anyone with a clue?
[23:23] <CharlesR> mkanyicy, how do i do that?
[23:23] <triple_x> CharlesR: what are you using gnome could install another windows manager eats less resources
[23:23] <mkanyicy> CharlesR, compiz?
[23:23] <CharlesR> how do i disable compiz?
[23:23] <triple_x> yes compiz eats lots of resources...
[23:24] <mkanyicy> CharlesR, the suggestion by triple_x is even far better
[23:24] <mmvx> mkanyicy you know Doonz's problem was 777 permissions on his home dir. How did that happen!! :)
[23:24] <triple_x> mkanyicy yeah right ;)
[23:24] <CharlesR> triple_x i am using all defaults
[23:24] <mkanyicy> mmvx, serious!
[23:24] <bastid_raZor> CharlesR: alt + F2 and type metacity --replace ..that will turn if off
[23:24] <Doonz> mkanyicy: yeppers
[23:24] <wormsy> how do i disable "so and so has left the chat" messages? I'm kind of an idiot about IRC
[23:24] <CharlesR> ok bastid_raZor
[23:24] <mkanyicy> !yay | Doonz
[23:25] <Doonz> mkanyicy: set it to 755 and it was all good
[23:25] <luis_> mmvx if love you man, i got my download helper back to work, thanks! now i can finally continue downloading electro for the dj party mix in 5 days ;)
[23:25] <Doonz> i remember why i set it to 777
[23:25] <dim3000> My printer only seems to work with Windows, what other options do i have?
[23:25] <mkanyicy> mmvx, Doonz I never knew that ssh was checking permissions as well for security reasons
[23:25] <mmvx> !yay | luis_
[23:25] <luis_> thanks!
[23:26] <jtaji> dim3000: what's the make and model?
[23:26] <mmvx> mkanyicy I didn't know it was THAT pedantic
[23:26] <alesan> hi how do I install acroread on ubunut?
[23:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> CharlesR, to disable it permanently you go to system→preferences→appearance→Visual Effects→Set it to 'none'
[23:26] <dim3000> jtaji: Old LaserJet 3100
[23:26] <CharlesR> ok Supersaiyan_IV
[23:26] <adac> mkanyicy, Yeah encryption will become more and more important with all this mobile devices
[23:26] <triple_x> CharlesR: need to look into another windows manager   or desktop lcde or xfce  http://xwinman.org/
[23:27] <CharlesR> ok triple_x
[23:27] <Steve132> mmvx: So, I followed the guide
[23:27] <Steve132> and it worked
[23:27] <Ilmatic> Hey guys, what is the command to uninstall an application?
[23:27] <mkanyicy> adac, seemingly desktop guys like me are left behind :(
[23:27] <mmvx> Steve132 great news
[23:27] <pollo_> hello
[23:27] <Steve132> up unto "sudo grub"
[23:27] <triple_x> CharlesR: ops mean lxde not lcde
[23:27] <pollo_> hi
[23:27] <Steve132> and it says "unable to resolve host ubuntu"
[23:27] <dim3000> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get remove <app>
[23:27] <pollo_> hola
[23:28] <mmvx> Steve132 I had a feeling there might be a 'but'
[23:28] <adac> mkanyicy, encryption works on Desktop too :D
[23:28] <mkanyicy> CharlesR, xubuntu comes with xfce
[23:28] <Steve132> yeah :-p
[23:28] <jtaji> dim3000: unfortunately, it looks like one of the rare HP printers that DONT work well in linux... http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_3100
[23:28] <jtaji> dim3000: says it's a paperwieght
[23:28] <Steve132> also, it said "grub command not fond"
[23:28] <Ilmatic> thanks mucho dim
[23:28] <dim3000> jtaji: i know i checked
[23:28] <dim3000> Ilmatic: np :)
[23:28] <mmvx> Steve132 that's a sudo issue, you're root anyway aren't you?
[23:28] <Steve132> yeah
[23:28] <Steve132> sudo chmod
[23:28] <Steve132> so
[23:28] <Steve132> yeah
[23:29] <FloodBot3> Steve132: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <dim3000> jtaji: maybe if I use a vm with windows and print from inside it, but thats too compilcated
[23:29] <dim3000> jTaji: guess ill just set up a seprate print serve
[23:29] <dim3000> server
[23:29] <jtaji> dim3000: that's really the only solution short of selling it and getting something else
[23:29] <mmvx> Steve132 try it without sudo, but I have a feeling you may run into the command not found again
[23:30] <dim3000> jtaji: no i also have a newr color printer (not laser)
[23:30] <Steve132> Yeah, I did, its saying "grub" is not a command...  using tabcomplete seems to imply using "grub-mkconfig" etc
[23:30] <dim3000> jtaji: but laser was good for mass printing
[23:30] <syockit> Steve132: you may have to install it... wait, chrooted?
[23:30] <unimatrix> anyone know how to run a graphical program from terminal so that it shows up on some other user's X session?
[23:30] <mmvx> Steve132 it's in /sbin but I think you need /sbin and /usr/bin in your path
[23:30] <Steve132> yes
[23:30] <jtaji> dim3000: they sure are
[23:31] <Ilmatic> Hey how come I can't remove XChat-GNOME IRC CHAT with this command:  sudo apt-get remove XChat-GNOME IRC CHAT?
[23:31] <D_K_2> question gentlemen, when i open appearences and preferences it loads all of the wallpaper images into thumbnails (which is fine), but if theres alot of wallpapers it takes a while to load. is there a way to cache the pics? or not have them load thumbnails? ideas welcome
[23:31] <Steve132> mmvx: Its not in /sbin either in my chroot
[23:31] <blakkheim> Ilmatic: that's not the package name..
[23:31] <Ilmatic> oh..
[23:31] <flanders> Does anyone know of an up-to-date wireless compability list? I am thinking of buying the D-Link DWA-125 USB wireless adapter (or even the DWA-130), but it seems hard to find out if they are compatible or not.
[23:32] <dim3000> jtaji: thanks anyways (damn those host-based ms printers)
[23:32] <mkanyicy> unimatrix, I don't think that can be that easy, because you have to be authorized (via X) to do that
[23:32] <jtaji> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome
[23:32] <schnoggo> syockit: Sorry - off on a conference call. My issue is that I have a new machine with serious onboard audio and I did a fresh Karmic install. I'm not getting sound on any digital or analog output. right-clicking the volume control shows my S/PDIF output.
[23:32] <unimatrix> mkanyicy: well of course i'm assuming that i have the authorization
[23:32] <mmvx> Steve132 sorry /usr/sbin
[23:32] <dim3000> Ilmatic: use synaptic if you arent sure to make it easier
[23:33] <Steve132> mmvx: not there either
[23:33] <afroman> anybody knows how to fix screen tearing? apart from the obvious v-sync in ati control center, is there any other way to fix it?
[23:33] <Steve132> we have grub-mkconfig
[23:33] <dirkson> Hey all. What's the package name of the flash plugin?
[23:33] <syockit> Steve132: if this is Karmic, then it's using grub2
[23:33] <Steve132> and a couple other grub-*
[23:33] <syockit> Steve132: the commands are a bit different
[23:33] <Steve132> yeah
[23:33] <mmvx> Steve132 no grub-install?
[23:33] <Steve132> not in the chroot
[23:33] <syockit> Steve132: wow, strange
[23:33] <mkanyicy> unimatrix, that is a hard assumption, if you can do that, then it can be done
[23:33] <Ilmatic> hey jtaji it says that it can't remove it becaue the package insn't installed but I clearly have it on my computer..
[23:33] <mmvx> can you apt-get install it?
[23:33] <Ilmatic> so what the heckk
[23:34] <unimatrix> mkanyicy: yes, the problem is how
[23:34] <Steve132> mmvx: grub-install is valid in the Live distro
[23:34] <mkanyicy> unimatrix, then you could simply export the DISPLAY env variable
[23:34] <jtaji> Ilmatic: you might have xchat, not xchat-gnome
[23:34] <bastid_raZor> !hardware | flanders look here >
[23:34] <mmvx> oops Steve132 can you apt-get update (may need to mount the cdrom or disable it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:34] <flanders> Thank you.
[23:35] <dim3000> Ilmatic: try just xhat
[23:35] <dim3000> *xchat
[23:35] <syockit> schnoggo: in Terminal, try running alsamixer. see if master volume is not set to 0
[23:35] <Ilmatic> I have both actually.
[23:35] <Ilmatic> I wanted to uninstall xchat gnome because it won't work.
[23:35] <Ilmatic> I installed it by mistake actually
[23:35] <Steve132> mmvx: Unfortunately, I can't get the LiveCD online...my wifi card is being finicky...I plan on getting it to work using NDISWrapper pretty easily after the system is installed
[23:35] <Ilmatic> wouldn't that remove my xchat application as well?
[23:36] <Steve132> mmvx: Would mounting the CD-ROM allow me to use the CD as a package source?
[23:36] <DubAndy> I've installed minidlna. I ran "usr/sbin/minidlna -f /etc/minidlna.conf" from my /home/minidlna. In the activity monitor I have 3 minidlna process running with id's: 1916 1908 1903. but it says they are sleeping. and I cannot get my samsung blueray to find it.
[23:36] <mmvx> Steve132 ok looks like the install didn't get it onto the target. Yes you should be able to do that.
[23:36] <unimatrix> mkanyicy: that's it? just set it to whatever session and anything i execute will show up on that session?
[23:36] <dim3000> Ilmatic: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:36] <Ahijah> Can I force a dist-upgrade to ignore new kernel versions?  I've been googling for a while and can't seem to find an answer
[23:37] <Ilmatic> Okay, I have both xchat and xchat gnome.
[23:37] <bastid_raZor> !pin | Ahijah ..although i'm unsure how well that will work with kernels.
[23:37] <Ilmatic> I want to remove xchat gnome because it's taking up space.
[23:37] <Steve132> mmvx: Ok, I tried "sudo mount /dev/cdrom" and oit said it was already mounted
[23:37] <mkanyicy> unimatrix, I think there is only 1 session with graphical applications running
[23:37] <mmvx> Ahijah you can lock packages in synaptic
[23:37] <Ilmatic> and the fact that it doensn't work
[23:37] <Yoman> is there any program which allows me to see detailed information send by another specific program on my computer to the internet?
[23:37] <mmvx> Steve132 in the chroot what is the output of df?
[23:37] <LA-Snow> I'm dual booting with Windows 7.  The menu gets longer and longer as I do updates with Ubuntu and now there's 3 different Ubuntus listed along with the safe modes.  How I remove the older 2 from the list?
[23:38] <Ahijah> bastid_raZor: ubottu I'll take a look at pinning, thanks
[23:38] <Ahijah> mmvx: I'll also look at locking the packages, thanks
[23:38] <Steve132> I can't copy/paste it here 'cause its a little harder
[23:38] <mmvx> Steve132 is the cdrom mentioned?
[23:38] <gigawatt> anyone here songbird with an ipod?
[23:38] <dirkson> .... Please tell me apt-url isn't enabled by default in ubuntu?
[23:38] <fatum> I'm using vsftpd for my webserver, so that I can login to FTP from other locations.  Currently, this only allows access to the user's home directory.  Is allowing connection from root a bad idea?  How would I allow you to see the /etc/www files as well, even from a normal user
[23:38] <Steve132> No, not inside the chroot
[23:38] <fatum> so that you can upload files
[23:38] <dim3000> Ilmatic: what happens when u do this: sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome
[23:38] <FloodBot3> fatum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <hoppelhoppel> updating linux-generic (2.6.31.16.29) to 2.6.31.17.30 by synaptic killed my boot entry for winxp :-(
[23:39] <Steve132> you want me to mount the cd inside the chroot?
[23:39] <mmvx> Steve132 yup
[23:39] <Ilmatic> Package xchat-gnome is not installed, so not removed
[23:39] <hanophix33> i am trying to play full screen videos on a 24 inch toshiba monitor, the video is very sluggish but plays fine not at full screen
[23:39] <Ilmatic> that's exactly what it says
[23:39] <dim3000> Ilmatic: u sue u have it?
[23:39] <dim3000> sure*
[23:39] <blakkheim> hanophix33: what video player and what cpu
[23:39] <Ilmatic> I clearly have it under my internet thing
[23:39] <hanophix33> hulu.com
[23:39] <mauri> when will a new kernell be released for karmic
[23:39] <mmvx> Steve132 not certain whether it will work though as it is effectively already mounted...
[23:39] <dim3000> does it run?
[23:40] <Ilmatic> nope
[23:40] <dim3000> try this: whereis xchat-gnome
[23:40] <mmvx> mauri there was an update today I think
[23:40] <mmvx> mauri only incremental though
[23:40] <hanophix33> blackkhelm, pentium 4
[23:40] <Steve132> ok, its mounted
[23:40] <Steve132> sudo apt-get update in the chroot?
[23:40] <mauri> mmvx: yes.... you are right
[23:40] <blakkheim> hanophix33: flash, especially fullscreen flash, is pretty cpu intensive
[23:40] <dirkson> .... Please tell me apt-url isn't enabled by default in ubuntu?
[23:40] <Ilmatic> xchat: /usr/bin/xchat /usr/lib/xchat /usr/include/xchat /usr/share/man/man1/xchat.1.gz
[23:40] <Ilmatic> gnome: /etc/gnome /usr/share/gnome
[23:41] <LA-Snow> I'm dual booting with Windows 7.  The menu gets longer and longer as I do updates with Ubuntu and now there's 3 different Ubuntus listed along with the safe modes.  How I remove the older 2 from the list of OS's I can boot into?
[23:41] <syockit> Steve132, mmvx: hmmm if I'm not mistaken, you can install grub on a linux partition without chrooting it, by specifying the mounted partition as root directory
[23:41] <mmvx> Steve132 you may need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, there should be an entry for it in there but it may be pointing at the wrong place
[23:41] <Ilmatic> Can you make sense of that?
[23:41] <Ilmatic> I sure can't..
[23:41] <mmvx> syockit cool
[23:41] <dim3000> how about xchat-gnome as one thing?
[23:41] <hanophix33> blackkhelm, trying to turnm my old laptop into something useful
[23:41] <hanophix33> any better ideas
[23:41] <Steve132> mmvx: Ok, working
[23:41] <blakkheim> hanophix33: dunno.. server?
[23:41] <dim3000> whereis xchat-gnome
[23:42] <hanophix33> i mean, like a boxee
[23:42] <Ilmatic> xchat-gnome: /usr/share/xchat-gnome
[23:42] <unimatrix> mkanyicy: it worked, thank you very much! :)
[23:42] <catlady> old laptops are good with puppy linux
[23:42] <mmvx> Steve132 as syockit says it may be possible to install grub from the livecd without the chroot
[23:42] <syockit> Steve132, mmvx: in http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2, see the 3 lines under section "Normal Recovery with Multislot USE flag enabled", starting with mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/gentoo
[23:42] <Yoman> mmvx, I have read that ssh is the same as telnet, only the information is encrypted. Why can't I connect to e.g. google in the way that I can with telnet? Is it because google isn't running ssh?
[23:42] <dim3000> Ilmatic: u dont have it then
[23:43] <Ilmatic> Seriously?
[23:43] <Ilmatic> Hmm..
[23:43] <dim3000> Ilmatic: the icon in the menu must have been kept back somehow
[23:43] <mkanyicy> unimatrix, np
[23:43] <Ilmatic> Oh..
[23:43] <dim3000> Ilmatic: try installing it
[23:43] <dim3000> Ilmatic: then remove it
[23:43] <syockit> Steve132, mmvx: well, at least, that's how I fixed my grub on this PC (after failing to get dual-boot Vista working over and over again)
[23:43] <Ilmatic> Oh okay.
[23:43] <Steve132> ok
[23:43] <Steve132> syockit
[23:43] <hoppelhoppel> about update-grub do not find my installed win partition, what can i do now?
[23:43] <schnoggo> syockit:  Good call. Never thought of that. All levels in alsamixer were 0. Cranked everything up, but still not hearing anything on any port. I try changing output device to analog and see if I can get anything there.
[23:43] <Ilmatic> Well I mean, if it's not taking up space, then it's fine with me.
[23:44] <mmvx> Steve132 looks like a good grub2 howto, thanks syockit
[23:44] <Steve132> syockit: so we use the chroot location to install grub too?
[23:44] <techgeek> im trying to the restricted modules for my kernel and when i do
[23:44] <stubuntu> How can I add a 1920x1080 mode for my display?
[23:44] <mmvx> Steve132 it may be worth umounting the cd
[23:44] <LA-Snow> I'm dual booting with Windows 7.  The menu gets longer and longer as I do updates with Ubuntu and now there's 3 different Ubuntus listed along with the safe modes.  How I remove the older 2 from the list of OS's I can boot into?
[23:44] <mmvx> Steve132 in the chroot
[23:45] <techgeek> 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) apt cant find the package
[23:45] <syockit> Steve132: umm, this doesn't involve chrooting. I don't know your chroot location, but yeah might be the same, for example if you mounted your partition on /mnt/yadayada, the root directory should be /mnt/yadayada
[23:45] <hanophix33> how do you make a secondary monitor the main monitor with the task bar?
[23:45] <Ilmatic> Hey dim, when I start up my computer, it has a list of OS to go to. There's this other version of ubuntu that freezes up when you go onto it. How can I take that down?
[23:45] <catlady> stubuntu: display settings, xorg conf files, check drivers
[23:45] <nteon> hi folks.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec notes that its possible to install 32-bit packages on 64bit 9.10.  can anyone point me further in that direction?
[23:46] <dim3000> Ilmatic: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome && sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome
[23:46] <dim3000> do this first to reinstall the remove it
[23:46] <dim3000> to make sure its deleted
[23:46] <Ilmatic> Okay.
[23:47] <schnoggo> syockit:  Yay. Now that levels are up, I have audio on analog ports! Thanks so much. I'll figure out the S/PDIF tomorrow :)
[23:48] <DubAndy> >	I've installed minidlna. I ran "usr/sbin/minidlna -f /etc/minidlna.conf" from my /home/minidlna. In the activity monitor I have 3 minidlna process running with id's: 1916 1908 1903. but it says they are sleeping. and I cannot get my samsung blueray to find it. Also at the end of the terminal command I can type another command I cannot press ctrl+c to quit the process? What does this...
[23:48] <DubAndy> ...normally mean
[23:48] <hanophix33> anyway of putting the task bar on a secondary monitor?
[23:49] <Yoman> is there a good program which allows me to analyze information sent to the internet from a specific program?
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> hanophix33: click and drag it over?
[23:49] <hanophix33> ?
[23:50] <Steve132> syockit: So, I ran that grub-install on the mounted root
[23:50] <dim3000> Ilmatic: u wanted to remove old kernels?
[23:50] <faileas> Yoman: wireshark
[23:50] <Ilmatic> Yeah, well it's actually more updated than mines I think but I want to remove it because I can't use it without it freezing on startup.
[23:50] <Steve132> and it said "error, no mapping exists for `nvidia_egicfjeg2`, auto-detection of a filesystem module failed, Please specify the module with the option --modules explicitly
[23:50] <Ilmatic> So to answer your question, yes. : )
[23:50] <mmvx> Yoman google servers (and most other servers) disallow any sort of ssh or telnet access as it is a security risk
[23:51] <syockit> Steve132: you may restart it to see if it works. my hunch tells me it won't bcause RAID kind of have special configurations, but whatever
[23:51] <miihackwii> hi all
[23:51] <mmvx> Steve132 I have a feeling that the command you just ran is looking for a config file in the mounted partition
[23:51] <Ilmatic> Hey dim, I installed and uninstalled, the application image is still there under internet.
[23:51] <Ilmatic> ughhh
[23:51] <Steve132> ok
[23:51] <mmvx> Steve132 and the install never got that far
[23:51] <dim3000> pastebin this: aptitude search linux-image
[23:51] <Steve132> ok
[23:51] <Yoman> faileas, ok thx will have a look at it
[23:52] <miihackwii> need help im getting an error when trying to install via apt-get the error im getting is.
[23:52] <syockit> Steve132: oops didn't read the later part
[23:52] <miihackwii> error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libssh2_1.2.2-bt0_all.deb (--unpack):
[23:52] <miihackwii>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libssh2.so.1', which is also in package libssh2-1
[23:52] <miihackwii> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[23:52] <miihackwii> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:52] <miihackwii>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libssh2_1.2.2-bt0_all.deb
[23:52] <FloodBot3> miihackwii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <faileas> mmvx: SSH is reasonably secure. however, there's no reason to leave it exposed to the outside world in many cases
[23:52] <Yoman> mmvx, ok, but it seemed to work fine connecting with telnet
[23:52] <Lyra> Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone could help me with a sound issue. I'm using 9.10 and the sound control tool on the panel doesn't adjust sound and plugging in headphones doesn't mute the onboard speakers. also in the sound preferences windows there are no devices listed under the hardware tab.
[23:53] <mmvx> faileas Yoman asked: "Why can't I connect to e.g. google in the way that I can with telnet? Is it because google isn't running ssh?"
[23:53] <faileas> lol
[23:53] <Ilmatic> Holy crap.
[23:53] <miihackwii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352588/
[23:53] <Ilmatic> There's a really long list.
[23:53] <faileas> ahh
[23:53] <dim3000> Ilmatic: have u tried removal in synaptic?
[23:53] <mmvx> Yoman http can be accessed using telnet
[23:53] <faileas> anything can be accessed through telnet ;p
[23:53] <mmvx> Yoman but all http will give you are the web pages
[23:53] <faileas> even irc
[23:54] <agent_j> i'm using hardy and i have epiphany-browser 2.22.2. i want to get epiphany 2.28.1; is there a way to do this which doesn't involve source?
[23:54] <dim3000> Ilmatic: pastebin the list
[23:54] <mmvx> Yoman and file downloads, such are configured on the server
[23:54] <miihackwii> need help im getting an error when trying to install via apt-get
[23:54] <miihackwii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352588/
[23:54] <Ilmatic> On here?
[23:55] <mmvx> Yoman basically no self respecting server admin is going to allow just anyone to connect to the server to run commands
[23:55] <hanophix33> i cant add a panel to the secondary screen
[23:55] <Ilmatic> lol@mmvx
[23:55] <Steve132> Yeah this isn't working
[23:55] <Ilmatic> No server admin would do that period.
[23:55] <git__> anyone here have a nexus one?
[23:55] <Yoman> mmvx, I understand that, but shouldn't I be able to view only the webpage with ssh? I mean, since ssh is kind of the same as telnet?
[23:55] <faileas> nope
[23:55] <mmvx> Ilmatic you try
[23:56] <faileas> Yoman: ssh, is a lot more complex than telnet
[23:56] <Chaz> How can you tell which packages are installed from which software source? (I.E. which packages are installed from universe, multiverse ect..)
[23:56] <miihackwii> need help im getting an error when trying to install via apt-get
[23:56] <dim3000> Ilmatic: goto paste.ubuntu.com and paste it there, then send me the link
[23:56] <miihackwii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352588/
[23:56] <Steve132> Can I use old grub?
[23:56] <Steve132> or something?
[23:56] <Ilmatic> Okay.
[23:56] <dim3000> miihackwii: clear the cache?
[23:56] <miihackwii> how do you do that
[23:57] <agent_j> Chaz: packages.ubuntu.com?
[23:57] <mmvx> Steve132 did you manage to do an update with the live cd mounted in the chroot?
[23:57] <dirkson> .... Please tell me apt-url isn't enabled by default in ubuntu? Oh. It is. Because THAT'S obviously not a security hole. Not a massive security hole. Right. Right. Of course. Just teach people to install random crap of the internet. Perfect.
[23:57] <dim3000> sudo apt-ge clean
[23:57] <Yoman> Ok what I am trying to do is to see if I can connect to a chess server and login there directly from shell. This worked fine using telnet, but I can't seem to get it working with ssh. And I'd like to, as I don't want anyone to intercept my password
[23:57] <Chaz> agent_j: That are already installed on my system.
[23:57] <syockit> Steve132: i wonder what nvidia_egicfjeg2 is
[23:57] <dim3000> sudo apt-get clean
[23:57] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:57] <mmvx> Yoman I understand
[23:57] <Ilmatic> Hey dim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/352590/
[23:58] <dim3000> ok good
[23:58] <mmvx> Yoman the chess server needs to be running ssh as a service
[23:58] <miihackwii> doesent do anything
[23:58] <mmvx> syockit grub2 has loads of modules
[23:58] <Steve132> syockit: nvidida_egicfjeg is the name it gave to my drive
[23:58] <Steve132> raid mirror
[23:58] <dim3000> Ilmatic: have u tried using synaptic?
[23:58] <agent_j> Chaz: i may be wrong, but doesn't synaptic have that kind of functionality?
[23:58] <Steve132> mmvx: yes, I did get an update
[23:58] <Ilmatic> I haven't actually. To be honest, I don't even know what that is.
[23:58] <Yoman> mmvx, ok, and it won't need to run a telnet service?
[23:58] <Steve132> mmvx: it failed to fetch a ton of stuff
[23:58] <mkanyicy> Yoman, maybe the chess server does not have ssh server
[23:58] <Ilmatic> Is it the package manager thing?
[23:59] <wookienz> hello. can comeone confirm my understanding of kernels and modules. 1. modules can be either compiled into the kernel or loaded via modules? 2. lsmod shows only those modules that have been loaded, or does it contain those loaded outside the lernel + those compiled in the kernel? thanks
[23:59] <agent_j> Chaz: you can browse for what is installed, and you can also view by repo. but i don't think you can do both at once.
[23:59] <mmvx> Steve132 ok, it is quite possible that would not have worked then
[23:59] <wookienz> via modules/via modprobe
[23:59] <Chaz> agent_j: Yes you are correct. I overlooked it, thank you.
[23:59] <Yoman> mkanyicy, is there any way I can tell?
[23:59] <mmvx> syockit what are your thoughts?
[23:59] <dim3000> Ilmatic: yes
[23:59] <Steve132> mmvx: well, it looked like it failed to fetch the internet repos, but successfully fetcched the CD repos
[23:59] <miihackwii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352588/
[23:59] <dim3000> Ilmatic: it install/removes app in a graphical way