[00:03] <Misio> Ok, I will survive without them :)
[00:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello folks
[00:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> I need some help.
[00:11] <charlie-tca__> !help
[00:13] <VickKleen> say isn't xubuntu suppose to have /etc/X11/xorg.conf after the installation of Xubuntu? I'm running this on an old box that's going to use vesa, but there isn't any xorg.conf, so not sure X got setup correct
[00:13] <lighta> how does I remove ttf-mscorefronts-installer from symantic ?
[00:14] <VickKleen> I tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't do anything, then I booted into recovery mode to try and run it as root, still nothing
[00:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok. I have a problem. I use xubuntu karmic koala. I have the nvidia drivers installed....and on every start I login, and the screen goes black and then I'm back at the login screen.
[00:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> after several tries I finally manage to login.
[00:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> the number differs...sometimes I need 5 tries sometimes 20...
[00:16] <Sachse_Siechtum> automatic login doesnt work too...
[00:16] <VickKleen> uninstall the drivers and try another version to see if that helps
[00:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> I tried ...I used to have version 185 active...now I have version173 active....no change...not even sure, if the driver is the cause...
[00:18] <VickKleen> look at the logs
[00:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> where do I find them?
[00:20] <VickKleen> ---> open a terminal ---> cd /var/log/
[00:20] <VickKleen> then
[00:20] <VickKleen> sudo nano dmesg
[00:20] <VickKleen> if nothing in there then:
[00:21] <VickKleen> sudo nano messages
[00:21] <VickKleen> if nothing in there then:
[00:21] <VickKleen> sudo nano Xorg.0.log
[00:21] <VickKleen> hopefully in one of them you'll get an error about booting in
[00:21] <VickKleen> actually CHECK Xorg.0.log first
[00:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> .just a moment...
[00:26] <VickKleen> Sachse_Siechtum: so you don't have to dig through the whole thing, check just the last 20 lines like this
[00:26] <VickKleen> ----> tail -n 20 Xorg.0.log
[00:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[00:26] <VickKleen> but if there is nothing there increase the number from like 20 to 30
[00:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> xorg.0 is empty
[00:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> nano dmesg is huge.
[00:27] <VickKleen> my bad, look to see if your Xorg file is just Xorg.log is all
[00:27] <VickKleen> type ---> ls
[00:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[00:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> what do I type to get out of the text editor?
[00:27] <VickKleen> in nano ctrl x
[00:29] <VickKleen> at the bottom of nano screen shows the prompts the ^ means ctrl
[00:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok got it :-)
[00:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> xorg.log is empty too...checking nano messages
[00:30] <VickKleen> so you have xorg.log?
[00:30] <VickKleen> you've never logged in before to xubuntu?
[00:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> dunno..there is no text in it
[00:30] <VickKleen> cause if you had then the log should be full
[00:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm...
[00:31] <VickKleen> make sure you type 'sudo'
[00:31] <VickKleen> hehe
[00:31] <VickKleen> sudo nano Xorg.log
[00:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> I got text in messages
[00:34] <VickKleen> k
[00:34] <VickKleen> but have you ever logged in before?
[00:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> xorg.log is empty.
[00:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[00:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> as root and with my username
[00:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> in the login screen
[00:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> Jan  6 00:49:51 jurek-desktop Thunar: Trash directory /media/3CE8AB8BE8AB424E/.Trash-1000 exists, but didn't pass the sec$
[00:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> Jan  6 00:49:51 jurek-desktop Thunar: Trash directory /media/3CE8AB8BE8AB424E/.Trash-1000 exists, but didn't pass the sec$
[00:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> ??
[00:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm...random
[00:36] <VickKleen> not sure about those entries
[00:36] <VickKleen> looks like something to do with trash is all
[00:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> so the trash function might cause the login problem?
[00:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> because I got this message several times in a row
[00:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I got this: Jan  6 00:46:48 jurek-desktop kernel: [   84.268563] ondemand governor failed, too long transition latency of HW, fallbac$
[00:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> Jan  6 00:46:50 jurek-desktop kernel: [   85.113799] agpgart-nvidia 0000:00:00.0: AGP 3.0 bridge
[00:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> Jan  6 00:46:50 jurek-desktop kernel: [   85.113816] agpgart-nvidia 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
[00:40] <VickKleen> trash I doubt it, but never know
[00:40] <VickKleen> that ondemand could be more of a problem actually
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> I think so too
[00:40] <VickKleen> that's to help with cpu scaling and if not working then well not sure, but don't see why that would stop X from booting
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> I have no clue what that message means, btw.
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> started using Xubuntu 2 Months ago.
[00:41] <VickKleen> possibly that the scaling isn't supported on your cpu is all
[00:41] <VickKleen> do you have the two latest kernels installed?
[00:42] <VickKleen> 14 & 16
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> oh yeah...before it goes into login screen I see a message shortly...something with...splash....1600x1400 failed
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[00:42] <VickKleen> that fail is ok
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[00:42] <VickKleen> try booting the other kernel
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> well I had this problem the other kernel also...
[00:42] <VickKleen> ok
[00:43] <VickKleen> because you are at the login I suspect it's the video is all
[00:44] <VickKleen> I know in Ubuntu you can run this to reconfigure X at least in Kola you could, for Karmic not sure
[00:44] <VickKleen> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> what does that command do?
[00:44] <VickKleen> I tried that in xubuntu and it did nothing
[00:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok a moment...
[00:44] <VickKleen> for configuring X if you need to reconfigure it
[00:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> oh I have compiz and cairo dock installed...
[00:45] <VickKleen> compiz could be causing a problem
[00:45] <VickKleen> do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> a moment
[00:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> oh cant exec reconfigure xserver..have to be root
[00:46] <VickKleen> yeah run as sudo
[00:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> I have that file
[00:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> xorg.conf
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> Section "Screen"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	DefaultDepth	24
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> EndSection
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> Section "Module"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	Load	"glx"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> EndSection
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> Section "Device"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	Identifier	"Default Device"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	Driver	"nvidia"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> 	Option	"NoLogo"	"True"
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> EndSection
[00:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just exec the reconfigure command with sudo...nothing happened...
[00:49] <VickKleen> change Driver "nvidia" to ----> Driver "nv"
[00:49] <VickKleen> then see if you can login with that, nv is the default X driver for nvidia
[00:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> damn I cant save it....
[00:50] <VickKleen> sudo nano xorg.conf
[00:50] <VickKleen> LOL
[00:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just wanted to do that *g*
[00:51] <VickKleen> you have to sudo all the time to gain root access
[00:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah I know what sudo means.....I read about it....temp root rights :-)
[00:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok done.....
[00:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> reboot?
[00:56] <charlie-tca__> That only works if you have the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file built already
[00:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> well it is saved....
[00:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> built?
[00:57] <charlie-tca__> sorry, meant that for VickKleen
[00:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah ok
[00:57] <charlie-tca__> Xubuntu quit building the file in about version 9.04
[00:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> what does building mean?
[00:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> like compiling?
[00:59] <charlie-tca__> In this case means putting that file in by default
[00:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see
[01:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> so the xorg.conf is not used by Xubuntu when it boots?
[01:00] <DKre8ive1> anyone here know what setting I have to put in Mplayer prefrences for audio and video on a ps3 xubuntu 9.10 install
[01:00] <VickKleen> so what's the replacement now for xorg.conf, how is the stuff loaded?
[01:01] <charlie-tca__> It is all automatic loading. There is no replacement.
[01:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok so I gonna reboot now.
[01:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> right?
[01:04] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok brb
[01:05] <charlie-tca__> VickKleen: the only time xorg.conf is used now is if the user builds it. Most of the time, things just work without it.
[01:06] <VickKleen> ok
[01:06] <VickKleen> bbl
[01:06] <charlie-tca__> Couple of pages I found helpful are : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution
[01:06] <charlie-tca__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[01:06] <charlie-tca__> although it seems really hard to make work sometimes, too.
[03:14] <aletheia8556> can anybody help me with a screen resolution problem??
[05:08] <owen1> i can't remove any file on my shuffle since it's all read-only. how to change it? sudo chmod 777 *  is not doing it.
[05:28] <Venim> hey guys, my xfce is all borked up and i can't seem to figure out why
[05:28] <Venim> first off, my windows open on the top panel
[05:28] <Venim> so i can't move them
[05:28] <Venim> also, my desktop isnt' allowing the for the space provided by the panel
[05:28] <Venim> and my workspaces won't work
[05:29] <pegassus> seems to be a compiz trouble
[05:29] <Venim> compiz is gone
[05:29] <Venim> at least i thought it was
[05:29] <pegassus> install the icon compiz and reload your windows manager via compiz icon
[05:30] <Venim> apt-get install icon compiz?
[05:31] <pegassus> or in synaptic
[05:31] <Venim> fusion-icon
[05:31] <Venim> yeah, i think i didn't restart since i uninstalled compiz
[05:32] <Venim> or 'uninstalled'
[05:32] <Venim> ah, there we go
[05:33] <pegassus> ok
[05:33] <Venim> now is there a way to make that not happen?
[05:35] <pegassus> only isf you put on starup sesion
[05:36] <Venim> how would i go about that?
[05:37] <Venim> like, i had compiz installed
[05:37] <Venim> and i want to completely get rid of it
[05:38] <pegassus> as you see I don't speak english very well. but I try to explain
[05:38] <Venim> ok thanks
[05:39] <Venim> as long as you help, you can insult me all you want
[05:40] <pegassus> well, in youmenu aplication there are a menu named administratoof configuration of xcfe4
[05:40] <pegassus> then an icon starup sesion
[05:40] <Venim> ok, you don't have to be an asshole about it
[05:41] <pegassus> jajajaja ok
[05:41] <pegassus> you don't beleive me that I don know english
[05:41] <Venim> ooooo\
[05:42] <Venim> i thought that you said I don't know how to speak english
[05:42] <Venim> my bad
[05:42] <pegassus> I kearn only reading tutos
[05:42] <pegassus> ok in that icon ther a tabs
[05:43] <Venim> i've lost you
[05:43] <pegassus> ok
[05:43] <pegassus> open you app menu and then go to config
[05:43] <Venim> what app menu
[05:44] <Venim> theres no config in that menu
[05:45] <pegassus> lok for menu that siad configuration of xcfe4
[05:45] <Venim> ok, i think i found it
[05:45] <pegassus> config or preference don't kow in engkish
[05:45] <Venim> what exactly do i need to change
[05:46] <pegassus> startup sesion
[05:46] <pegassus> a tab named autostar aplications
[05:46] <Venim> o, i have to make xfwm start?
[05:47] <pegassus> you don't use xubuntu?
[05:47] <Venim> i do
[05:47] <Venim> that's why i'm here
[05:47] <pegassus> ok
[05:48] <Venim> i'll put xfwm4 in there and hopefully that should work
[05:48] <pegassus> in that tab you can put an aplication to automatic starup whit you system
[05:48] <Venim> yeah, i know
[05:48] <Venim> i don't know why the window manager isn't starting up
[05:48] <pegassus> uuffffff
[05:48] <Venim> you think it would
[05:49] <mavyrick> does anyone here have a 13" macbook pro???
[05:51] <Venim> no, why?
[05:52] <mavyrick> nvm then
[05:52] <Balsaq> gotta 13" g4...
[05:54] <pegassus> if you choose emeral like your windows manager, that why
[05:54] <Venim> mavyrick: why the 13" specifically
[05:54] <Venim> i have a macbook pro
[05:54] <Venim> ok
[05:54] <Venim> thanks
[05:57] <Balsaq> nice job pegassus...
[05:57] <pegassus> Hoo thanks
[05:57] <Balsaq> i try to understand what the problems is and...BANG you already know and nailed it!
[05:58] <pegassus> well I don't know everything but if I can help
[06:34] <sunny6789> hi
[06:35] <sunny6789> some times my computer just freezes up and i have to restart , no other key would work ,can ne1 tell me whts wrong?? i have 512 RAM and using Xubuntu
[06:36] <sunny6789> 9.10
[06:38] <sunny6789> ne one in th r?????
[07:27] <drcode> hi all
[07:27] <drcode> whats up
[11:33] <jarnos> Why shutdown is behind password in Karmic?
[11:58] <mkultra_> why did xubuntu go to install only
[11:59] <mkultra_> must have xubuntu in live cd form
[12:07] <jarnos> mkultra_: Desktop cd is a live & install cd
[12:07] <mkultra_> hmmm
[12:07] <mkultra_> i told someone on net diagnosing pc issues to get xubuntu
[12:08] <mkultra_> they said no live cd
[12:08] <mkultra_> i even pointed them at images of the live boot they said it was install only
[12:57] <rapii701> 하이~
[12:57] <knome> !!-
[14:36] <tavasti> where I can find bluetooth client program for transfering pictures from mobile phone
[14:36] <tavasti> using Xubuntu Karmic
[14:57] <jarnos> sudo sdparm --command=stop <disk> used to work in intrepid; no more in jaunty.
[14:57] <jarnos> It should stop disk from spinning.
[15:05] <jarnos> Also usb disk can't be auto mounted after it has been ejected by sudo sh -c 'echo 1 >/sys/block/$1/device/delete' goodbye "$diskname"
[15:13] <R4v> Hey
[15:13] <R4v> Can someone help me with something? =]
[15:13] <Sysi> @ask
[15:13] <Sysi> !ask
[15:13] <Pres-Gas> tavasti, you could try blueman http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/blueman and http://blueman-project.org/
[15:14] <R4v> I'm trying to install xubuntu on a 2gig usb key.
[15:14] <Pres-Gas> tavasti, gigolo also seems to do obex connections and should already be installed
[15:14] <R4v> So i can save files on it, updatet he software i want, remove what i don't, etc.
[15:15] <R4v> is this the right thing:
[15:15] <Sysi> "install" with unetbootin or install, with booting to installer?
[15:15] <R4v> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-xubuntu-9-10-flash-drive-using-windows/
[15:15] <R4v> Sysi, AFAIK unetbootin isn't persistant is it? so i wont be able to save files, etc.
[15:15] <Sysi> but usb-creator etc
[15:16] <R4v> Also, i HAVe to do this from window.
[15:16] <tavasti> Pres-Gas, ok, thanks
[15:16] <R4v> I don't understand this casper thing.
[15:16] <tavasti> for now solved problem with installing gnome-bluetooth, but it wants to use nautilus
[15:37] <Pres-Gas> tavasti, that was why I pointed to the other solutions above
[15:54] <tavasti> also blueman opens nautilus...
[15:58] <tavasti> 'Using gconf config backend'
[16:05] <Pres-Gas> hmmmm...that was the debug output, tavasti?
[16:06] <Pres-Gas> I would say that either gconf needs to be modified or update-alternatives needs to be used.
[16:19] <al2cand> Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to install a wireless router WRT120N from linksys on my xubuntu?
[16:36] <tavasti> Pres-Gas, I started blueman-applet from command-line, and when I say 'browse device' that appears on terminal
[16:41] <genii> al2cand: Since it has a web-based control panel, I'd hazard "yes". Plug it in wired first time, configure it thru the it's control panel for the wifi setup, etc
[16:42] <petsounds> good evening. i just install xubuntu karmic. i can't make thunar open a new tab with ctrl-t. what did i miss? thanks
[17:07] <Pres-Gas> petsounds, Thunar does not support tabs  http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=4780.0
[17:21] <petsounds> Pres-Gas, ok thanks
[17:37] <likemindead> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/tips_tricks_and_scripts_thunar_file_browser
[17:40]  * petsounds checks the link
[17:42] <Pres-Gas> likemindead, I am not seeing tab action in that article.  Hold my hand?
[17:47] <TheSheep> The file canvas (background) is not configurable, there is no tab facility, no split screen option or many of the other features you find in other file managers. Nor should there be.
[17:50] <likemindead> :-\
[17:51] <Pres-Gas> I like a nice, trim file manager
[19:25] <Airris> hi
[19:26] <Ov3rf10w> hi Airris
[19:28] <Airris> um, I just had a hopefully quick question, assuming that I can get this computer to boot properly again, how do I find the error log or what not for ubuntu. Something is occasionally causing this other computer not to boot properly and I want to try and figure out what's up
[19:29] <Airris> It's a computer I salvaged out of electronic recycling so I wouldn't be surprised if there's more hardware elements that I need to replace :P
[19:29] <TheSheep>  /var/log/* generally
[19:30] <Airris> ah. K
[19:31] <ron_o>  /var/log/messages   and I had to initiate bootlogd
[19:34] <Airris> at least recovery mode still boots so I have options *starts to tinker*
[19:37] <Airris> woh. ok, there's a lot of logs in here, any idea which one i should be looking at? It gets to the xubuntu mouse, then near the end of it quickly throws some kind of message then the screen goes black and the system just sits there. If I could just read whatever that was saying it'd probably clear this up
[19:39] <likemindead> Airris, can you "Alt+Ctrl+F2" to a command line? If so, I'd do that & then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to see if it sorts out your problem.
[19:40] <Airris> i can give that a shot.
[19:40] <Airris> hmm, also. note to self: "cat messages" = useless idea :P
[19:46] <Airris> running those commands presently. It looks like it did find some things to update
[19:52] <Airris> updates done: hmm. it can normal boot to a commandline out of recovery mode, but still that black screen problem for a completely regular boot. This time it did not appear to throw any kind of message before the black screen
[19:57] <benchik>  hello
[19:57] <Airris> hi
[19:57] <Airris> right, ok now onto ron's suggestion, turning on bootlogd and seeing if that generates any useful feedback
[19:57] <benchik> so... Xubuntu is less light than Ubuntu. Has Xubuntu lost its' edge?
[19:57] <Airris> huh?
[19:59]  * likemindead thinks benchik is quite mistaken.
[20:00] <Airris> um, ok how do I turn on bootlogd so it logs things the *next* time the system starts to boot. I turned it on and it did a lovely recording... of me shutting down the system so i could try and reboot it normally
[20:00] <Airris> :P
[20:01] <benchik> likemindead: well when i check RAM usage, Xubuntu uses same or more than Ubuntu
[20:01] <Ov3rf10w> benchik, no
[20:02] <benchik> Ov3rf10w: i checked and that's what i saw
[20:02] <Ov3rf10w> gnome takes more RAM than a Xfce and KDE
[20:03] <Ov3rf10w> xubunu is a lightweight os
[20:03] <Ov3rf10w> xubuntu*
[20:05] <benchik> Ov3rf10w: ok, i know what it SHOULD be, and once it was. But it's no longer lighter than Gnome
[20:06] <Ov3rf10w> why is not?
[20:06] <benchik> i.e. Xubuntu typically uses about 350MB while Ubuntu 280MB
[20:07] <Ov3rf10w> hmmm....
[20:08] <Ov3rf10w> Most people would agree with that
[20:08] <Ov3rf10w> wouldn't*
[20:09] <benchik> wonder what happened?
[20:10] <Ov3rf10w> i don't know
[20:10] <Airris> perhaps depending on what things you have installed and running
[20:11] <Ov3rf10w> maybe some  application use much of ram
[20:11] <Airris> since there's also sorts of background widgets and doodads
[20:11] <Airris> *all sorts
[20:11] <benchik> I still like xfce cause  it's very stable and has it's own compositor. but on my laptop i use Ubuntu cause it has better battery management over GUI
[20:11] <benchik> Ov3rf10w: actually i googled and found several posts of people stating what i said
[20:12] <Ov3rf10w> Most people today do not know what is Xubuntu :D
[20:13] <Airris> can I interrupt for a sec, still not sure how to get bootlogd to keep running after i reboot
[20:13] <Airris> well not keep running i guess, but have it start up when i reboot
[20:13] <benchik> i see
[20:14] <benchik> didn't check one against the other out of the box
[20:14] <benchik> another thing:
[20:15] <benchik> i was wondering whether to upgrade to 10.04 alpha, since i have my laptop as a production system. depending how stable is the alpha (relatively)
[20:15] <Ov3rf10w> ....
[20:16] <Ov3rf10w> i don't know
[20:16] <Ov3rf10w> :D
[20:16] <Airris> always good to be honest
[20:17] <Ov3rf10w> i use 9.04 :D
[20:17] <Airris> hmm, possible alternative solution, i'm in the commandline mode, is there a way to start up xcfe from here? I'm starting to suspect the problem might be with running the gui
[20:18] <Airris> so if I just turn logging on then try and turn that on, it might bug out and I can catch the error messages since i'll have previously ran bootlogd
[20:19] <benchik> Ov3rf10w: i use 8.04
[20:20] <Ov3rf10w> very old :D
[20:20] <Ov3rf10w> 9.04 is the much better
[20:21] <Ov3rf10w> i tried karmic but don't like it
[20:21]  * petsounds agrees
[20:22] <Airris> hmm, i'm running karmic
[20:22] <Airris> what don't you like about it
[20:22] <Ov3rf10w> all
[20:22] <Ov3rf10w> xD
[20:22] <Ov3rf10w> lot of bugs
[20:22] <Airris> other than the problems i'm having which i think are more this computers fault than the software, I haven't found anything disagreeable
[20:22] <Airris> like I said: this is a salvaged computer, I'm expecting that this problem is due to a hardware failure, I just need to figure out *what* is failing :P
[20:23] <Airris> hehe
[20:23] <Ov3rf10w> :D
[20:23] <Airris> it's really hard to narrow that down too since it only bugs out like this erratically
[20:23] <Airris> if i change some of the parts around it might boot up right
[20:23] <Airris> but there's no telling if it just decided to boot up correctly that time and would have worked without any part changing :P
[20:25] <Airris> huh, that is *wierd* ok so I figured out on my own how to turn on the GUI, and it worked just fine. Perhaps lets see if it boots completely normally if i restart now
[20:26] <Airris> it's back to booting again *shrug*
[20:26] <Airris> drat. I can't diagnose this problem anymore then until it starts to break again :P
[20:29] <Airris> although: theory based on symptoms. I remember when we were trying to get this computer to run a knoppix live cd (to see what was on the harddrive before i blanked it), knoppix kept having problems recognizing the display mode. Now we have the apparent thing that when this computer decides to not boot, it can boot commandline but not a normal boot with the GUI.
[20:29] <Airris> This computer has some integrated graphics that might be a little funky and perhaps xubuntu can't reliably handle it or something???
[20:29] <Airris> just a guess until i can find some way to confirm it
[20:38] <knome> Airris, try the live cd
[20:53] <Airris> it seems to be taking quite some time to consider the live cd
[20:55] <Airris> and now appears to have hung up
[20:55] <Airris> hmmm
[21:00] <Airris> and we're back to the same problem if i try and boot it up normally
[21:00] <Airris> huh.
[21:06] <Airris> and yet if i go in through recovery mode, then do the normal boot option and turn on the gdm manually
[21:06] <Airris> it works
[21:06] <Airris> a bit of an extended/annoying process but hmm
[21:28] <Airris> ah well, i'll worry about it later
[21:28]  * Airris bows and exits
[22:47] <Edo> anyone have experience in openvpn?
[23:40] <Andrew__> Hello, can anyone help me?
[23:41] <Andrew__> ...
[23:41] <Andrew__> ?
[23:41] <Andrew__> Anyone?
[23:41] <Andrew__> :/
[23:46] <fabio> Hi
[23:46] <fabio> has anyone here installed xubuntu on a dell mini 9?