[00:59] Shiran_: we have a todo list of the most obvious things at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [01:00] yea i saw it [01:01] but i dont know how all this business works === Shiran_ is now known as Shiran [01:19] Shiran: you just pick a todo item with no one assigned and have at it :) [01:33] interesting quote: "It's too complicated for a third party to act as an intermediary between developer and user." === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [02:49] ScottK: thanks === Shiran_ is now known as Shiran [03:39] ScottK: If bangarang builds on Debian without shared-desktop-ontologies, is there any reason to add it as a B-D? (~beta3 built without it, even after it had appeared on packages.d.o and I'm testbuilding ~RC-1 at the moment) [03:40] nepomuk in 4.4 needs it [04:05] ryanakca: It would be better to b-d against it since we are using the in KDE. [04:06] ScottK: OK. I'll add it and rebuild. Should be uploaded some time tomorrow === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [07:35] hi, i'm having a bug with amarok, and so the amarok people told me to upgrade to the latest version, so i tried first http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-beta-2 then i tried following the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.2.1 and it says that amarok (and a bunch of other packages) have been held back, both times. [07:36] lucky: Did you try dist-upgrade? [07:38] ooh, that works. thank you. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [10:04] hello all, is here a pykde-dev to find? i've some pykde-akonadi-questions [10:05] Trying to install libxml2 from jriddells ppa I get this: http://dpaste.com/141999/ It's karmic packages any I'm using jaunty. Is there a quick fix? [10:05] skamster: Hi. [10:06] hello :) [10:06] Did you see this form a few years ago? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/20484 [10:06] I got that working somewhat and have screenshots somewhere to proove it... [10:07] i also get that working, but i couldn't access to akonadi [10:07] :( [10:07] steveire: do you develop with pykde? [10:08] skamster: Nope., but that uses kross. Ping me on akonadi if you think I can help later. [10:09] (and kross uses pykde) [10:09] ah, ok [10:09] thx for the hint [10:11] steveire: there is python-kde4-dev [10:11] Riddell: And libxml2 for jaunty? Is that possible? [10:12] bug 503766 [10:12] Launchpad bug 503766 in kde-l10n-de "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-de_4%3a4.3.3-0ubuntu1~+karmic1_all.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/kimagemapeditor.mo', which is also in package kde-i18n-de 4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503766 [10:13] steveire: wget https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/libxml2_2.6.32.dfsg-5ubuntu4.2_i386.deb; dpkg --install libxml2_2.6.32.dfsg-5ubuntu4.2_i386.deb [10:15] Riddell: Thanks. What's the 64bit url? replace i386 with x86_64? [10:15] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/libxml2_2.6.32.dfsg-5ubuntu4.2_amd64.deb [10:16] Thanks. That worked. === mgraesslin___ is now known as mgraesslin [10:26] Riddell: exiv2 library transition would appreciate your ubuntu-archve powers: bug 503289, bug 504008, bug 503990 [10:26] Launchpad bug 503289 in rawstudio "Sync rawstudio 1.2-5 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503289 [10:26] Launchpad bug 504008 in geeqie "Sync geeqie 1:1.0~beta2-9 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504008 [10:26] Launchpad bug 503990 in pyexiv2 "sync pyexiv2 0.1.3-6 from debian sid main" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503990 [10:56] I should really upgrade this computer to karmic [10:58] steveire: it's a load better than jaunty [10:58] Lure: I'm onto it [10:59] Riddell: Yeah, I use it on two out of 3 computers. Just always have real work to do on this one... [11:00] oh steveire, are you going to fosdem? [11:01] Not sure. [11:01] 7-9th, right? [11:01] I'm going to camp kde then taking a week off in the states. [11:06] yeah [11:07] guess I can't hassle you for a talk then :) [11:11] Lure: pyexiv2 you need to do manually [11:19] Riddell: manually? [11:21] Riddell: so basicaly take ubuntu orig.tar.gz + debian dir from debian and upload as build1? [11:21] Lure: yes [11:32] Hello, there is a problem while upgrading to KDE SC 4.3.4 from karmic-backports: the kde-l10n-* package conflicts with the kde-i18n-* package. There's some bugreport on Launchpad for different language packs, but these problem affects all KDE language pack. [11:32] exactly, there're 8 bug reports with the same content [11:33] for example bug 503070 [11:33] Launchpad bug 503070 in kde-l10n-nl "kde-l10n-** 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 fails to install (tries to overwrite kimagemapeditor.mo from kde-i18n-**)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503070 [11:34] however I want to help to fix them if it is possible ;) === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [12:14] ulysses__: the kde-i18n packages are for KDE 3 apps only which in karmic was quanta and some other kdewebdev bits and kdevelop [12:14] kdevelop is due to be KDE 4 and all of kdewebdev is around except for quanta [12:14] I wonder if it's worth keeping kde-i18n in lucid [12:15] we could just include the .po files in quants directly [12:15] quanta [12:15] ulysses__: anyway, 4.3 adds some more bits back from kdewebdev so that's why its overwriting [12:15] probably best to add Replaces: kde-i18n-xx on the kde-l10n packages if you want to fix them [12:17] I want to help if I could [12:19] ulysses__: for each of the languages in kde-i18n-xx do an apt-get source kde-l10n-xx (makeing sure it gets the ones from backports), add a Replaces: kde-i18n-xx run dch -i for a changelog and take a debdiff [12:23] like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/352876/ [12:25] ulysses__: yes [12:31] another (perhaps stupid) question: is this a right changelog? http://paste.ubuntu.com/352886/ [12:33] oh, I found a mistake [12:33] my e-mail address should be add, right? [12:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/352887/ [12:33] ulysses__: yes that should be your e-mail address next to your name [12:34] ulysses__: that's the version from lucid which we do want to fix, you also wanted to do the version in karmic-backports too I expect [12:34] yes, karmic-backports [12:34] ulysses__: so do it for both lucid and karmic-backports if you can [12:35] oh kde-l10n-af has no karmic-backports [12:35] oh, I see [12:36] ulysses__: so for kde-l10n-af the version needs to be 4:4.2.96-0ubuntu1.1 and karmic-backports in the first line of the changelog and 4:4.2.96-0ubuntu2 and lucid in the first line of the changelog [12:37] moving files is hassle in packaging :( [12:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/352890/ [12:40] I get the list of kde-l10n-* packages from packages.ubuntu.com, so I will fix them if I learn how can I do it:) [12:40] ulysses__: that's good [12:40] so make a debdiff of that [12:40] then do the same for lucid [12:45] I'm in the directory in which I downloaded the source package with apt-get source, and debdiff can't read the changelog [12:46] ulysses__: did you build the source package? debuild -S then in the parent directory debdiff .dsc .dsc [12:51] some user error occured, I've not installed every package that needed;) [12:52] you'll need devscripts [12:57] * Riddell syncs attica from Debian, our first source format 3 package? [12:58] hmm, failed, hmm [13:02] Riddell: I made the debdiff [13:04] ulysses__: let's see === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [13:05] Riddell: what? [13:05] ulysses__: let's see the debdiff [13:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/352899/ [13:08] ulysses__: looks good [13:08] ulysses__: so save that to say kde-l10n-af_4.2.96-0ubuntu1.1.debdiff [13:08] then edit the changelog to have the right version number and distro for lucid [13:09] make a debdiff of that [13:09] repeat for every other language [13:09] send me all the debdiffs and I'll upload [13:09] send me the list of kde-i18n-xx packagse and I'll remove them from the archive [13:09] you'll be a fully fledged ninja by the end of the day :) [13:10] I think I'll have some more stupid question today:) [13:13] I want to control myself, so this is the changelog for lucid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352902/ [13:14] ulysses__: don't include the karmic-backports bit [13:14] so remove that middle entry [13:15] ok, I removed the middle entry [13:29] seaLne: ping? [13:36] Riddell: I sent an e-mail with debdiffs for kde-l10n-ar, could you check it please? [13:37] sec [13:38] ulysses__: kde-l10n-ar_4.3.4-ubuntu2.debdiff is missing the Replaces [13:38] ulysses__: kde-l10n-ar_4.3.4-ubuntu2.debdiff was a debdiff compared to the karmic-backports version [13:38] ulysses__: you want it to be a debdiff compared to the lucid version (which happens to be the same as karmic) but not karmic-backports [13:45] Riddell: plop! [13:45] Riddell: did you found the time for the patches I sent to you yesterday? [13:48] agateau: I'll do those as part of the RC packages which are due to be uploaded today or tomorrow [13:49] Riddell: ok [13:49] Riddell: there may be some conflicts because I think some of the changes I sent to you are already in rc1 (but not beta2) [13:50] Riddell: plasma-widget-kubuntu-feedback could stand some Newing (I uploaded it, so I can't). [13:55] ScottK: fix for #502409 is in Quassel master [13:55] agateau: Thanks. Would you please reassign the bug back to quassel and mark it fix committed then. [13:55] ScottK: sure [13:55] Thanks. [13:56] agateau: Is the dbus-menu stuff ready for committing to trunk now that it's 4.5? [13:56] Riddell: So I remove the karmic-backports changes from the changelog, then add the lucid, debuild -S and debdiff? [13:56] ScottK: I want to get it into trunk asap yes [13:56] ScottK: but it needs a proper review before [13:57] ScottK: Quassel bug reassigned [13:57] ScottK: meh I need to reject plasma-widget-kubuntu-feedback, the debian/copyright file hasn't been filled in [13:57] ulysses__: yes [13:57] such a beautiful blizzard of a morning here today [13:57] Riddell: Thanks. I knew that (and then forgot). [13:57] Arghh. [13:58] nixternal: ^^^ [13:58] hahaha [13:58] is there a bug state in launchpad to confirm a fix actually worked? [13:59] ScottK: I forgot to tell you about that in the revu package, that I didn't have the completed copyright in there [13:59] Yeah and I noticed and then forgot [13:59] al: No. [14:00] hehe, you confused me when you asked about uploading cuz we were doing the l10n crap, and I just said, "I guess" [14:00] :) [14:00] hahahaha, pwnd [14:01] Riddell: I sent the new debdiff for lucid [14:01] Riddell: can the same version still be uploaded, or does that need to be bumped after a reject? [14:01] nixternal: needs to be a newer version since the source was accepted [14:01] thought so, I think that is silly, but ok [14:03] ulysses__: you're still debdiff'ing against the karmic-backports version [14:03] ulysses__: it should be against the karmic version [14:04] debdiff .dsc .dsc [14:04] (normally you would debdiff against the version from lucid, but there hasn't been an update in lucid for kde-l10n-af) [14:04] s/af/ar/ [14:11] Riddell: I hope I understand it at last [14:21] * ulysses__ search some food, and then return === fjlacoste is now known as flacoste [14:36] do we have any merges that need to get done? [14:37] let me rephrase that, is anyone in here doing merges? if not, I am about to step on your toes [14:38] I've done all mine and I didn't spot any KDE ones that seemed worth doing [14:38] e.g. kplayer is listed but it doesn't give us any gain except a version bump [14:38] I think I am seeing that as well, but I think there are merges that are kde-based that aren't showing up [14:39] agateau: dbusmenu changes for plasma/framesvg.cpp and plasma/widgets/signalplotter.cpp are in 4.4? [14:39] patch says reverse patch detected for those [14:39] Riddell: yes [14:39] otherwise kdelibs patch applies [14:39] They are not related to dbusmenu, but plasma kept crashing without them :/ [14:42] agateau: hmm, this'll need dbusmenu-qt in main [14:42] Riddell: yes [14:46] I believe I've done all of mine that are worth doing. (Filing a sync request for qjson right now) [14:46] JontheEchidna: all your which? [14:46] all my merges [14:48] nixternal: scribus-ng could stand a merge probably. [14:50] agateau: bug 504267 [14:50] Launchpad bug 504267 in libdbusmenu-qt "libdbusmenu-qt main inclusion request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504267 [14:50] agateau: it might help to politely ping a member of ubuntu-mir [14:51] Riddell: ok [14:51] Riddell: any suggestion on who to ping? [14:53] agateau: loic maybe? [14:53] yes, following the french conspiracy :) [14:54] he is the one I know best [14:54] Riddell: what's about the last version of debdiffs? [14:54] nixternal: kredentials too [14:56] 14:03 < Riddell> ulysses__: you're still debdiff'ing against the karmic-backports version [14:56] 14:03 < Riddell> ulysses__: it should be against the karmic version [14:56] again?:( [14:57] 46 minutes ago I sent a new version [14:58] ulysses__: latest e-mail I have is Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:00:48 +0100 [14:59] with to debdiff? [14:59] two* [14:59] one [15:00] hm, I send two after that one, maybe I should send it again [15:00] ulysses__: yeah try again [15:02] mail sent [15:06] <_Groo_> hi/2 all. are the kde 4.4 rc packages coming out? latest libamsn broken the wlm kopete plugin :P [15:07] ulysses__: nothing [15:07] :( [15:07] ulysses__: however I had a thought, I'm going to upload kde-l10n for the RC anyway so I may as well do this change as part of that [15:07] ulysses__: so you can just do the karmic-backports packages if you like [15:07] I like [15:10] <_Groo_> Riddell: hi Riddell [15:10] _Groo_: yes we're working on RC [15:10] I'll probably upload tonight === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: great :D will it have kdebindings for the first time? [15:14] no :( [15:14] <_Groo_> Riddell: could you sponsor my http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7320 [15:14] still not compiling [15:14] <_Groo_> Riddell: damn [15:14] ScottK: roger that [15:14] <_Groo_> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/503539 [15:14] Launchpad bug 503539 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] wally" [Wishlist,In progress] [15:15] _Groo_: that package is a native package [15:15] _Groo_: it needs to be done as a .orig.tar.gz and diff.gz [15:15] <_Groo_> Riddell: explain? [15:16] the upstream tar needs to be called wally_2.3.1.orig.tar.gz before you run debuild -S [15:16] that'll make the .diff.gz and keeps a nice separation between upstream and packaging [15:17] if you don't name it exactly that it'll put everything in a .tar.gz and there's no separation of the packaging (which is used for apps made only for debian or ubuntu, hense the name native) [15:20] you should always check the .changes file before upload that it hasn't accidently made a native package [15:20] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok uploading ro revu [15:21] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok, i didnt knew that :) [15:21] <_Groo_> done [15:22] * ScottK catches all kinds of dumb things he's done by reading the .changes before upload. [15:22] kdebase-workspace lost two 2560x19** wallpapers in RC1, hopefully that'll help with CD space [15:23] definately worth checking the distro release you're upload to as well [15:23] As recently as last night checking that the changelog entry was the one I wanted to upload was helpful. [15:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: pls check http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7331 [15:25] oh, but kdebase-workspace-wallpapers isn't seeded in the first place... nevermind. [15:25] _Groo_: that .orig contains a debian directory [15:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:25] * _Groo_ is remaking the damn package [15:26] _Groo_: "Homepage: http://www.becrux.com" that should be part of the Source information not the package information these days [15:27] _Groo_: "KDE3, KDE4, XFCE4" -> "KDE 3, KDE 4, XFCE 4" [15:27] _Groo_: LICENCE says GPL 2 but debian/copyright says GPL 3 [15:28] "This package was debianized by Harald Sitter" you're not harald sitter I suspect [15:28] <_Groo_> Riddell: where did you found that? [15:28] _Groo_: debian/copyright hasn't been updated for this package [15:29] <_Groo_> Riddell: whats the sintax for the origin? Origin: http://blah? [15:29] <_Groo_> Riddell: ah ok, changing copyright too [15:30] origin? [15:30] <_Groo_> Riddell: its my first oficial package :P [15:30] <_Groo_> i mean source [15:30] <_Groo_> sorry [15:36] why does strigi continuously index the same shit over and over, especially when none of it has changed? [15:36] JontheEchidna: ^^ you notice that as well? [15:36] nixternal: there is a new release of strigi I believe [15:36] nixternal: yeah [15:37] wanted to make sure you computer wasn't on them drugs again :) [15:37] what? [15:37] wanted to make sure _MY_ computer wasn't on drugs again [15:37] jeesh [15:37] lol [15:37] It seems that 5 minutes after indexing finished it starts all over again [15:37] <_Groo_> btw i made an unofficial virtuoso 5.0.12 package is anyone is interested, till 6.0.1 is out.. works like a charm [15:37] yeah, but it doesn't take as long [15:38] _Groo_: Riddell has virtuoso packages as well [15:38] <_Groo_> nixternal: 6.0.1? [15:39] ScottK: kredentials merged [15:39] Thanks [15:39] 5.0.12-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 [15:39] _Groo_: ^^ [15:39] _Groo_: yeah I saw that, based my virtuoso 5.0.12 packages off it, it's now in the archive [15:39] but not main, sigh [15:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: really? based on my work? who was based on someone elses? lol.. nice [15:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: see now http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7332 [15:41] ScottK: interesting thing, is the bzr way of merging, doesn't work with these 2 packages btw [15:41] out of all the merges I attempted to do the other day with the bzr way, only 1 worked [15:42] _Groo_: hmm, that .orig still contains a debian directory [15:42] they need to upgrade that bzr pipe too, to something a bit faster than 100k/s [15:43] scribus-ng will take a week to get here [15:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: )(*#(@*#)(@ the rest is fne? [15:44] _Groo_: "It was downloaded from" don't put the exact URL there, you'd need to change it every release, just the download webpage [15:44] _Groo_: licence is GPL 2, debian/copyright says GPL 3 [15:45] jjesse: any news on your chapter? [15:46] holy schnikeys...I could have done a grab-merge by now, and had the package uploading...but now, I have to wait for a bzr branch first, and now I have to do bzr merge-package [15:46] * nixternal cocks the gun before hand [15:48] Warning: criss-cross merge encountered. See bzr help criss-cross [15:48] there isn't a virtuoso backend for soprano for 4.4b2 yet? [15:48] * nixternal pulls the trigger [15:48] nixternal: nope [15:49] still waiting [15:49] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok, should be fine now [15:49] freinhard: yes [15:50] Riddell: just needs packaging or not possible? [15:50] <_Groo_> freinhard: its in lucid, i could put one in my ppa if the damn dput didnt locked at the last byte [15:51] _Groo_: .orig is good [15:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: \o/ finally [15:51] _Groo_: but.. [15:51] * _Groo_ dances around is chair.. co-workers are used to that :P [15:51] 15:44 < Riddell> _Groo_: "It was downloaded from" don't put the exact URL there, you'd need to change it every release, just the download webpage [15:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: oO [15:51] 15:44 < Riddell> _Groo_: licence is GPL 2, debian/copyright says GPL 3 [15:51] those still apply [15:52] virtuoso is in my ppa https://edge.launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa [15:52] for karmic [15:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: i already uploaded a new one, check again, with the afomentioned changes [15:52] _Groo_: why not put it into the beta-ppa and add it as dependency since nepomuk/strigi won't work without it? [15:52] <_Groo_> freinhard: nepomuk /strigi do work without it, its akonadi who doesnt [15:53] freinhard: I expect we will for the RC, needs more testers first, want to test? [15:53] Riddell: shure [15:54] damn microphone producer ;) [15:54] ScottK: scribus-ng has a sync-req filed for it [15:54] Easy one then [15:55] ya, wait for someone to sync it [15:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i jump around my chair now? [15:57] _Groo_: not yet, I'm test compiling it :) [15:57] <_Groo_> Riddell: i mean the debian part... it compiles ¬¬ [15:57] <_Groo_> Riddell: ;) [15:58] anyone willing to package some recent opensync stuff? [15:59] nixternal's all about packaging stuff today. [16:00] i guess they need to be done from scratch, i think they changed to cmake [16:00] i think Quintasan already had a look at it and gave up because of that [16:00] W: wally: copyright-without-copyright-notice [16:01] W: wally: spelling-error-in-description XFCE Xfce [16:01] _Groo_: ^^ [16:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: aaaaaaaahhhhhhh picky picky.. the first one im not quite understanding what the system wants.. the second one is plain evil :D [16:01] _Groo_: You should probably use lintian or so [16:02] <_Groo_> genii: i do [16:02] <_Groo_> genii: but i didnt recompile after i did the debuild -S [16:02] Aaah [16:04] Copyright: section should say "Copyright 2009 Antonio Di Monaco " [16:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: in debian/control? [16:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: or debian/copyright? [16:05] debian/copyright [16:05] Riddell: started nepomuk+strigi in systemsettings, started to convert the nepomuk-db, finished but still states that strigi isn't running. changed back to the systemsettings-overview, then again to nepomuk/strigi-settings, activated strigi once again, apply, started to index. [16:06] the tricky part is getting it to stop :) [16:06] looks like strigi doesn't get activated in case the nepomuk-db needs to be converted [16:06] _Groo_: shouldn't the app have a .desktop file so you can launch it? [16:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: true... the author forgot and i didnt bother to check.. gonna fix that... [16:08] Riddell: and finally crashed. that's what i found in .xsession-errors: http://dpaste.com/142119/ [16:08] ScottK: nah, just had to do some stuff for debian, and since I had my pbuilders all warmed up, figured I would ask :) [16:09] freinhard: possibly the libxml2 from my PPA will help [16:11] Riddell: is installed [16:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: whats the proper way to add a .desktop file without polluting the orig? [16:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: or any file by that matter [16:14] _Groo_: put it in the debian/ directory and add debian/install [16:14] containing "debian/wally.desktop usr/share/applications/wally.desktop" [16:21] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok uploading [16:23] <_Groo_> Riddell: done :) [16:23] <_Groo_> Riddell: and tested [16:23] <_Groo_> brb [16:23] Riddell: looks like strigi crashes upon a file, starts again and againd and stops allways in the same folder [16:24] freinhard: worth waiting for the new strigi then reporting a bug if it still happens [16:25] new strigi=4.4rc1? [16:25] no 0.7.1 I think [16:26] when do i get it from where? [16:26] i think strigi never worked for me because of some file in that folder [16:26] dunno doesn't seem to be on vandenoever's page [16:27] but debian have it http://incoming.debian.org/strigi_0.7.1-1.dsc [16:27] fabo: where is that from? [16:27] Grab it from there quick before it dissapears. [16:28] dget http://incoming.debian.org/strigi_0.7.1-1.dsc [16:29] Riddell: ping [16:29] hi jefferai [16:30] Riddell: I'm trying to track down a problem people seem to have in Amarok with Qt 4.6 and/or KDE 4.4 beta -- so I enabled a few repositories (beta and backports) [16:31] problem is, after doing that and a dist-upgrade, I can no longer compile amarok because it can't find phonon headers [16:31] what changed? [16:32] jefferai: oh yes, that's the problem Stecchino was having, you need do ln -s /usr/include/qt4/phonon /usr/include/phonon [16:32] for reasons I havn't quite worked out yet [16:32] hm [16:32] ok [16:33] so it switched from kde's phonon to qt's? [16:33] amarok in lucid is probably broken, I synced liblastfm from debian yesterday, it'll need a rebuild [16:33] jefferai: we've used qt's phonon for a while now but they change the headers with every release and things get confused [16:34] ah [16:34] so amarok probably needs some cmake-foo? [16:36] I'm not sure /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon/Effect is '#include "../../phonon/effect.h"' which to me should end up with /usr/include/qt4/phonon/effect.h but for some reason the compiler wants /usr/include/phonon/effect.h [16:36] something to do with /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon being a symlink [16:36] hm [16:37] mm [16:37] * jefferai looks [16:38] it might be because it's looking relative to where cmake finds things? [16:38] I dunno [16:38] I'll take a quick lookaround [16:39] jefferai: do you want any Kubuntu CDs for camp KDE? [16:39] um, sure? [16:40] are you coming? [16:40] * jefferai forgets who is and isn't [16:40] I'm afraid not [16:40] aww [16:40] jefferai: e-mail me a postal address and phone number where they could be delivered and I'll see if I can order some [16:41] ok, cool [16:42] Riddell: so a few things [16:42] not sure if they're related [16:42] one is [16:42] amaroklib links in KDE4_PHONON_LIBRARY [16:42] which may be empty, if qt is being used [16:42] not sure [16:42] another is that it doesn't explicitly include phonon headers, although that's probably part of QT_INCLUDES [16:45] let me see if it's broken in lucid [16:46] * jefferai notes that it's saying it can't find the file Phonon/Effect [16:46] it's not saying that it can't find what that file links to [16:46] it can't find that file, period [16:47] <_Groo_> Riddell: remove with purge (delete dir) and reinstall the phono-devs.. i had the same problem, it should compile fine afterwards [16:47] _Groo_: ah really? [16:48] * jefferai tries [16:48] <_Groo_> Riddell: aparently during the upgrade some leftovers still remain that confuses the amarok cmake [16:48] <_Groo_> Riddell: i had this problem about 2 weeks ago.. [16:48] * _Groo_ builds a lot of packages :P [16:48] I wonder what's being left over [16:49] could be that /usr/include/qt4/phonon/Phonon symlink, it is actually packaged as a directory [16:49] ah [16:49] could be [16:50] _Groo_: how do I tell apt not to remove the things depending on libphonon-dev? [16:50] like, some --no-deps thing or anything? [16:50] jefferai is not KDE Phonon newer (or have more features) then than QT's [16:51] <_Groo_> jefferai: use dpkg --purge --force-all package [16:51] verbalshadow: wuh? [16:51] we patch the Qt phonon to make it the same as the standalone releases [16:51] ah, force-all [16:51] that's it [16:52] Riddell ok [16:52] and we don't want to use the standalone releases because qt depends on phonon [16:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: can you check wally now? should be ok now [16:54] <_Groo_> Riddell: btw the wally packahe also contains a plasma plugin, since the plasma part doesnt actually do anything if the wally binarie isnt active, i didnt separated it into a plasma package.. it would be overkill and confusing to the user. [16:55] _Groo_: hooray, it worked [16:55] too bad it's building on the world's slowest machine [16:55] but it's building [16:57] <_Groo_> jefferai: whos the man? ;) [16:57] You are [16:57] * jefferai kisses [16:58] <_Groo_> jefferai: lol, less, less... a thankyou is enough :D maybe a COOKIE! [16:58] _Groo_: are there any porn filters on this thing? webcollage screensaver did a similar thing and people got upset when their screensaver suddently poppup with with photos of people doing strange things to each other [16:59] <_Groo_> Riddell: yes, every single backend has a tagging filter with strong pr0n filter. i used it at worked and never got fired... [16:59] Riddell: for a moment I thought your first question there referred to my interaction with Groo [16:59] I haven't done anything hardcore...yet [16:59] <_Groo_> jefferai: nor you will, not with me anyway :D [16:59] we allow kissing in this channel, we're very friendly [17:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: cookie, me wants a cookie [17:00] <_Groo_> ubottu: cookie? [17:00] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:00] _Groo_: I has pretty wallpaper! [17:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: did you activate the the plasmoid too? [17:01] yes [17:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: should be there in the desktop settings now... [17:01] it doesn't do much without that [17:01] yes it's working [17:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah, it gives lots of pretty pictures [17:01] _Groo_: You could work at a porn store. Which would say a lot about you never getting fired :) [17:02] <_Groo_> Daskreech: hmmm true... but they allow chair dancing at pr0n stores? [17:02] * Daskreech will go and do hands on research and report [17:03] _Groo_: shall I upload? [17:03] <_Groo_> Riddell: upload to where, what? [17:04] _Groo_: wally to ubuntu [17:04] <_Groo_> btw are you guys using lucid, i have stranbge bugs this week.. locale stopped working properly and init never goes beyond 2... i need to start kdm via rc.local. [17:04] <_Groo_> very strange [17:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: you a MOTU is asking me a mere peon... by all means do! [17:06] I may have to fix this "W: wally: spelling-error-in-description XFCE Xfce" issue first, that's very important, don't want to upset xfce [17:06] <_Groo_> Riddell: ehehehehe [17:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i have acess to the kde 4.4 rc builds to start testing [17:18] <_Groo_> lol the moment i got the invite my evil ati crashed [17:41] <_Groo_> compiling rekonq 0.3.28... tagged today [17:42] <_Groo_> which fixes finally the adblock bug... [17:42] Hmm Wasn't there a daily build ppa? [17:42] <_Groo_> Daskreech: there is? for rekonq? [17:43] <_Groo_> i usually build it with any new tag and send to my ppa [17:44] <_Groo_> pls some motu update koffice in lucid to 2.1!!! or ill have to build 2.2 svn :D [17:45] _Groo_: yeah search for daily rekonq ppa [17:45] there is one for chromium as well [17:46] <_Groo_> Daskreech: yeah, iuse the chromium one, i didnt knew there was one for rekonq... oh well.. [17:47] :-) [17:47] * Daskreech grumbles about not having one for KDE :) [17:48] <_Groo_> yeah... me wants nightly fixes.. i miss my daily fix === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [18:55] Riddell: could you fix kde bug 221701 for me? :D [18:55] KDE bug 221701 in feeds "Please add my blog to Planet KDE " [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221701 [19:01] Riddell: in karmic-backports the version is '4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1', what have to replace, '4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic2' ? [19:03] ulysses__: yes [19:03] jussi01: ok [19:05] Riddell: thanks :) [19:06] hmm, no, I've run out of disk space [19:09] doh [19:10] So is anyone going to organise a KDE 4.4 release party? [19:10] (its a good excuse for a party :D ) [19:21] what's debian/[compat|pycompat] for? [19:23] debian/compat is the debhelper version [19:24] debhelper is the scripts that do much of making the package, sometimes the behavour changes with new releases [19:24] so that specifies what version it should behave as [19:24] pycompat is something for python packaging [19:24] but python packaging keeps changing and I don't do enough of it so I forget [19:25] NCommander: rumours of a new binary incompatible sip release due says kde-packager list [19:25] Riddell: and what's the current version it should be set to? [19:26] debian/compat should be 7 these days [19:26] shtylman: nice kdm theme :) [19:32] is there a howto for packaging cmake projects? [19:46] can anyone tell me the status of timelord? [19:48] mcas: We are working towards it with the resources we have. Care to volunteer. [19:48] thx ScottK [19:51]