[00:26] Good morning [00:27] ??????????????' [00:30] any Questions? [00:32] Nope. [00:33] our time GMT +8 === ^V^ is now known as Guest13909 === Guest13909 is now known as ^V^ === ^V^ is now known as Guest53589 [00:41] hey guys i have a ? i have wine 1.0.1 and trying to install wow but it seems i need to update wine i have alot of wow installed and dont want to start over so if i delete or unistall wine and reinstall from tar.bz will i lose all i have installed under wine [00:42] stormbringer: I can save you a lot of time... money.... and possibly save your life.... don't play WoW [00:44] greetings [00:46] anyone having problems w/ the xorg drivers for "karmic"? [00:47] anyone in here play wow [00:47] foghorn: No-one, ever. [00:47] lol [00:48] stormbringer: You can get wine 1.2 from the wine ppa. [00:49] stormbringer: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb under "Adding the WineHQ APT Repository:" [00:49] i tryed to get it via ppa but it still says i am useing 1.0.1 [00:49] You tried to get it through that ppa? You're still using 1.0.1? [00:50] Sounds like you forgot to install 1.2. [00:51] and kage i am 38 years old i dont think i am going to have that problem lol [00:51] let me see but i am sure i did install it [00:51] is there any reason i should be having an error installing Kubuntu? [00:52] I installed Kubuntu 64-bit on my machine that is 32-bit, and later realized it. Now I'm trying to install Kubuntu 32-bit over the 64-bit [00:52] stormbringer: Yeah.... I didn't think I would have a problem with it anyways... [00:52] Is there any reason this should give me an error? [00:52] stormbringer: took me 1 year to admit I had a problem... [00:52] Zeppelin: What error are you getting? [00:52] only error i have ever seen has been when i tryed to install the version i have on my daugthers box just to find out she does not have a 64 bit system lol [00:53] well [00:53] I'm not getting any error speficially [00:53] just after i select 'English' and select 'Install Kubuntu' [00:53] it shows me the splash screen for a little bit [00:53] then it just shows nothing [00:54] try running the live cd and installing from the GUI [00:55] i am showing a update for wine 1.1.335 but it is blocked [00:57] stormbringer: The package is called wine1.2, I believe. [00:57] stormbringer: You might have to remove wine 1.1.x first, though === crissi_ is now known as CrissiD [00:58] shit that is what i was afraid of i just hope i dont lose all the programs i have installed via wine [00:58] stormbringer: Pretty sure that won't happen. [00:59] kk [00:59] stormbringer: Reasonably [00:59] wow [00:59] did the same thing [00:59] went to the screen of nothing ness [01:00] Zeppelin: Try pressing CTRL + ALT + F1 [01:00] not like i got much of a choice now do i lol [01:00] what would that do? [01:00] shuts down xserver [01:00] stormbringer: If you're really concerned, you could rename the .wine dir [01:01] stormbringer: Actually, removing programs doesn't remove their .dirs unless you use "apt-get purge" [01:01] stormbringer: So you're safe. [01:01] Zeppelin: See if you can get to a virtual terminal [01:01] iwill: kk will try that [01:01] Zeppelin: Actually, you should check disc integrity, first. [01:02] Zeppelin: Most likely, your cd has some errors on it. [01:02] i'm checking atm [01:02] say there are errors [01:02] will i have to redownload the iso itself? [01:02] or just re-burn it? [01:03] Zeppelin: You should checksum the downloaded iso (takes 2 seconds) and reburn it. [01:03] make sure you are downloading the proper version for your box [01:03] reburn works for me...usually [01:03] Zeppelin: If checksum fails, you'll have to redownload, though if you did it through a torrent, you just have to redownload the corrupted bits. [01:03] foghorn: Problem is when it doesn't :P [01:04] jwill [01:04] Zeppelin: ? [01:04] is checking the integrity and checksumming at all different? [01:04] Zeppelin: There are two ways your disc could have gotten corrupted [01:04] Zeppelin: A) When you were downloading it B) when you were burning it [01:04] md5 as you said [01:05] i was too slow typing [01:05] Zeppelin: Checksumming the .iso checks for A, checking the disc checks for B [01:05] Zeppelin: "Verifying the disc integrity" is just checksumming the disc, so they're the same thing, just to different things. [01:07] how do i checksum [01:07] Zeppelin: For the disc, it's on the menu below 'install ubuntu' [01:07] i'm checking the disk with Check Disk for Defects [01:07] atm [01:07] i wanna checksum the iso [01:07] ok now it says i am running 1.1.35 i insatlled the ver. wine1.2 1.1.35 so i hope it is the right one [01:08] Zeppelin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM [01:08] my KGpg wont launch - anyone else have this problem with 9.10? [01:08] Zeppelin: At the bottom are the kubuntu iso checksums: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [01:09] spider: Don't have it installed [01:10] HOLY SHIT MY WOW CAME UP LOL [01:10] !language [01:10] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [01:10] sorry wont happen again [01:10] :D === jwill is now known as jwill_is_afk [01:10] brb [01:11] finally! a civilized group of ppl! [01:11] what checksum should I be getting jwill [01:11] Zeppelin: At the bottom are the kubuntu iso checksums: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [01:12] OMG my ulitimate boot loader cd fixed my 'operating system not found' problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:13] yea [01:13] my checksum is ok [01:13] and the disk intergrity check found no error [01:13] i think it's because I'm trying to install a 32-bit over a 64-bit kubuntu [01:14] I want to try VM on my linux box to access WinXP, is it best to start with an empty partition? === jwill_is_afk is now known as jwill [01:15] you don't really need to create a partition for VM, it stores the hard drive as a file - a virtual hard drive [01:15] Planetary: !!! [01:16] ok got to log for now so i can reboot and tweek someone lol later guys and thanks for the help [01:16] Zeppelin: That wouldn't explain why it doesn't load. [01:16] meh [01:16] :-( [01:16] So the 64 bit livecd worked, but 32 bit doesn't? [01:16] yessir [01:17] Want to try the 64 bit live cd again to see if it works? [01:17] i guess whay i am asking is that i dual boot and my xp install is currently borked, i would like to try and fix it from linux if possible, perhaps I am going about it the right way [01:17] I don't see why 32 bit wouldn't work while the other does... [01:17] foghorn: You want to convert your old winXP install into a virtual machine? [01:18] is that not smart? [01:18] With vmware? [01:18] speaking of bits. if you have a system with dual 32bit cpus on it can you run a 64 bit os? i dont think so but... [01:18] yes [01:19] brb [01:19] basically I am done with dual booting, I use Sun VirtualBox and VM my Vista [01:19] Planetary: No. [01:19] spider: Yeah, virtualbox is win. [01:19] jwill: figured. [01:20] back [01:20] so can i finally lose the NTFS partition? :) [01:21] foghorn: Does vmware have free a converter now? [01:21] ...free a* [01:21] ......................a free* [01:22] what's a good video editing software tha can capture from firewire? [01:22] dunno, i have never done this b4, but am dying to try [01:22] Virtualbox is easier to set up than VMWare [01:22] i think thats what i d/l'd [01:23] foghorn: You'd probably have to do a fresh install inside a new virtual machine [01:23] vmware is mostly oriented towards enterprise and is hard for single users. Virtualbox is much better. Also it's open source. [01:23] has an open source version without usb* [01:23] yes that is what i have [01:24] virtualbox is a little slower though [01:24] speed is of no concern, i just want to lean how to do it [01:24] coreyB: Windows. XP. [01:24] coreyB: OS from 9 years ago. [01:24] lol [01:25] lol? [01:25] a os that still works without all the junk 7 has [01:25] aye but 7 is cleaner that vista [01:25] ...*than [01:26] jwill: Wanna be my friend? [01:26] lol. [01:26] jwill, may i pm ya? [01:27] ftw foghorn i like vista better. [01:27] I don't think quanta has that feature, Zeppelin D: [01:27] coreyB: really? [01:28] yup. [01:28] i had no problems with it, and even if i did, i actually know how to fix things unlike some people that just instantly jump on the vista hating boat. [01:29] this is true, many things changed w/ vista. [01:30] later all, got company [01:30] thanks all for your help! === irfan_ is now known as nafri === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:41] When I try to delete files I get the error: "Access denied to /home/z3r0/.local/share/Trash/files/[FILE TO DELETE] " Google offers no help, already manually deleted all the files in the trashcan. [01:41] Any ideas from the group> [01:41] is the file in use..? [01:43] should not be, will check with lsof [01:44] according to lsof, no. Not open/ in use. it is only this one directory. Everything else deletes perfectly fine. [01:45] does anyone know how to block microsofts BING from the the browsers [01:46] what_if, have you tried restarting? [01:46] Krezkey, sec [01:47] Krezkey, /etc/hosts [01:47] yes, have restarted already. Earlier the whole system locked while deleting a 4+GB folder from the trash. [01:47] add the following line : 127.0.0.1 bing.com [01:47] ok cool. just like windows [01:47] yuppers [01:48] sweet...thanks coreyB [01:48] what_if, well keep in mind thats a lot of data, and if you have a slow hard drive, its gonna happen [01:51] Not really. Shouldn't. [01:51] dropped to a console and rm'd it. Still no idea why dolphin could not delete the folder (either to trash or actually delete) [01:51] what_if: Strange. [01:52] what_if: Did you see any error output? [01:52] what_if: You could try searching kde for a bug with the error popup string. [01:53] when putting in trash error was "Access denied to /home/z3r0/.local/share/Trash/files/[filename]" [01:53] yes, an access denied error to the trashcan files directory [01:54] . [01:55] I was not seeing my own entries to the chat... Did you get the info about the error messages? [01:55] what_if: I'd look for a bug with that as a search (bugs.kde.org). Might find an explanation. [01:55] what_if: Yes. [01:56] well coreyB I found the host file but it's locked up and can't change properties [01:56] I looked earlier but only found errors relating to the quota management... which I may have encountered. Have deleted at least 10GB from this system today. I followed a howto to manually delete the files and info, but this last file's error persisted. All better now [01:57] hi!someone could tell me how to order files in k3b DVD project before recording? [01:57] hello evrybody [01:57] Krezkey, you gotta open it with root priv [01:58] i dont know the default text editor for kubuntu, so sudo apt-get install gedit [01:58] then, sudo gedit /etc/hosts [01:58] so log out and log in as root ? [01:58] No. [01:59] kate is default editor [01:59] ah [01:59] i believe it would be sudo kate /etc/hosts then [02:00] ok i'll give it a try [02:02] javier_: Order files? [02:02] javier_: Oh, for music CDs... I don't know. [02:03] guess i need more command line for terminal...that did not work [02:03] oh jwill whats the command to install kubuntu restrictions or w/e so i can play dvds? [02:03] jwill: no, not for music [02:03] for data [02:05] it orders them (if you have 12 files with names 1,2,3,4,...) like 1,11,12, 2,3,4,5,... [02:05] jwill: i would like them in logical order [02:05] javier_: ... [02:05] jwill: or you think they will appear later in the computer just in the order you give them in your sistem= [02:05] ? [02:05] javier_: Order on the filesystem has nothing to do with displayed order. [02:06] ok :) [02:06] so it was a stupid question :) [02:06] thanks anyway, i burn it safer now :) [02:06] You can sort things by name or other stuff by clicking on the colums tops (click on the name column header, for example) [02:07] yes, i thought that was going to be, but wasnt totally sure [02:10] jwill: thanks! [02:19] aw my key board wont work, its an old usb. it even wont work in ps2 port. though a ps2 keybord will. i had them both pluged in too. why no work? === eric_ is now known as eric === eric is now known as Guest14915 [02:20] woops === Guest14915 is now known as eric_ [02:20] Planetary: its tired [02:21] haha.... it works now i pluged in into a usb 2.0 card [02:21] yay [02:22] hi all [02:22] hi [02:22] hey [02:22] does annyone know a cool looking irc client for linux? [02:23] ? [02:23] cool looking? [02:24] yes somthing that is nice with a transparent background for instance [02:25] just did a fresh install with an ati video card computer. it defaults to full resolution at start up, but when i click display in system settings ti goes to the res i want. strange... [02:26] I'm not sure, cooper..I'm using Konversation, it looks nice I guess === eric_ is now known as Eric [02:26] hmm yes i am too can you custumise konversion? (srry im new to this) [02:27] I think so === Eric is now known as Guest99352 [02:27] and how would i do that? [02:34] how do i change login menu resolution? [02:35] I think it's auto set to max res [02:36] it is but i want to drop it down. i feel it will fix my res when i log in [02:36] You want a lower res? Why? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === eric is now known as Guest15 === Guest15 is now known as eric_ === eric_ is now known as Ericw [02:42] ya i guess ill try it up high. myself and other users were used to lower [02:49] Planetary: ATI has lots of bugs and whatnot [02:49] Planetary: You can increase font size, since that's the main thing with high resolutions [02:50] ya i try to use nvidia [02:50] yep i did that thanks [02:50] Planetary: That's pretty weird though... [02:50] Planetary: Actually, you could probably have a one line script in ~/.kde/Autostart that just sets the resolution to what you want every login [02:51] Planetary: As a workaround [02:51] jwill: ok ill remember that [02:51] jwill. i did find a thread about it but havent read it [02:52] Planetary: 1 sec, looking at xrandr man page [02:52] (it's probably what you want) [02:53] Okay, you could try a script like this: sleep 1 [02:54] the next line: xrandr -s 456x123 [02:54] where 456 is width and 123 is height [02:54] sleep is in seconds, and it probably needs to be more like 5, depending on your system. [02:55] ok thanks === jwill is now known as jwill_is_afk [03:01] how does one use kbluetooth? [03:02] it wont connect to my G1 [03:02] BUT my vista partition will use my phone as a audio device [03:06] anyone there? [03:11] anyone who know how to set raid 0 in ubuntu server 8.04 lst [03:13] what key is meta? [03:14] any smartone [03:29] can anybody point me at the correct file to modify in order to change the users' default kickoff/kmenu? === jwill_is_afk is now known as jwill [03:39] hjw: To change the launcher menu a user uses, or to change the _default_ for newly created users? [03:41] jwill: I'd like to set the default for all of my users. I'm moving them all over from kde3 [03:43] hjw: Then sorry, don't know. Could try #kde, but it's pretty dead right now. [03:43] hjw: More people there than here, though, and it's a KDE, not kubuntu question. [03:43] Kmenu defaults to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kickoffrc, is there some place it would look after that? [03:44] hjw: Again, don't know. It would have something to do with the default plasma layout, not the specific widgets. [03:44] hjw: Figure out where the default layout is, and you can probably edit it. [03:45] the default layout is in kubuntu-defaults but I assume if I edit that any updates will override it [03:45] hjw: Alternatively, you just write a script that runs on creating a new user. Not as elegant, but would definitely work. [03:46] hjw: I know where the current plasma rc is, just a sec [03:48] hjw: Okay, I think it's ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc [03:49] hjw: The people in #kde might have a better solution, though. [03:49] yes, thats the personal one for each user, if they don't have anything in their home it pulls it from /usr/share/kubuntu-defaults...config/ but I can't seem to override that [03:50] hjw: I don't know how to override it, just mentioning a workaround. [03:51] thanks jwill, I'll keep searching.... there's no info on kubuntu sites other than referring to kde.org, who specifies directories which should work but they don't/ I'm doing something wrong. [03:52] hjw: Probably kubuntu screwing it up. [03:52] hjw: Knowing kubuntu... [03:53] jwill: ouch, that's not what I expected to hear on #kubuntu [03:54] eh.. eh.. [03:54] pulling my tongue [03:54] and good timing too because this "beta" is acting more like pre-alpha.. ffs [03:54] good on me for taking the chances and it shoving me a big fat finger [03:55] hjw: I avoid distro betas as much as possible. The KDE betas are the only ones with new features, anyways. [03:55] I mean memenode... [03:55] it's a kde beta.. [03:56] and feature freeze is in effect from what I heard.. [03:57] memenode: As of November. [03:57] memenode: RC is out today or tomorrow, so I'm not bothering with the beta. [03:58] eh I didn't know :S [03:59] looks like some dbus issue.. plasma crashes on its start and complains of no reply from dbus [03:59] memenode: Hey, we had someone in here a while ago with a similar problem in 4.3 [04:00] It might have been solved. You'd have to look in the logs. [04:00] hm they don't go that far back probably [04:03] memenode: They do. [04:05] memenode: I think it's "u19809", but it must span into the next day: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/05/%23kubuntu.txt [04:05] how do i delete without moving to trash? [04:05] ...nevermind, it must have happened in #kde [04:06] ilumi: You can enable it as a right-click option in dolphin general settings [04:06] jwill: shift used to work, not now [04:07] oh [04:07] jwill: might be helpful, thanks [04:07] jwill, where to be exact? [04:07] coreyB: delete? [04:07] yeas [04:07] yes* lol [04:08] coreyB: General category in settings in dolphin [04:08] coreyB: Oops, not there, nvm [04:08] coreyB: General in 'context menu' tab [04:09] take a screenshot jwill i cant find it [04:09] http://imagebin.ca/view/27nTJBJK.html [04:13] * Kage is going to bed... night [04:15] night kage === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [04:42] hi [04:46] hi to all [04:46] can any body temme which is the best antivirus n spyware software for kubuntu [04:52] ahsan: clamav is the only one I know of [04:53] thanks [04:54] ahsan: btw, the only good reason to use it with kubuntu is to protect windows machines you may be sending files to [04:54] actually i cant open my hotmail account using firefox [04:55] i called my isp [04:55] they r saying scan ur computer [04:55] ahsan: ok, it won't hurt, but I doubt very much that is the problem [04:56] ahsan: have you tried creating a new firefox profile and trying hotmail? [04:56] nope :$ [04:56] at the moment i m uninstalling firefox [04:57] n den reinstalling it [04:57] btw konqueror is also unable to open ma hotmail account [04:57] n yes i m also in doubt tat my machine is infected [04:58] caz i m dowloading file n browsing net normally otherwise [05:02] ahsan: if you're going to reinstall firefox, delete the ~/.mozilla folder to remove your old profile [05:02] thnx [05:05] say my friend wants to change his Kubuntu cursor [05:05] how would my friend do this? [05:06] Zeppelin: your friend could go to systemsettings, keyboard and mouse, cursor theme tab [05:08] my friend says thank you [05:09] you can find cursor themes on http://www.kde-look.org [05:14] joining [05:14] how can i find where a file or program installed? [05:15] ilumi: whereis firefox [05:15] for example [05:16] iconmefisto: that doesnt always work sometimes it just returns the same name(only) [05:17] i tried whereis locate and find, none do what i want [05:17] what are you searching for? [05:18] lmt [05:18] what is that? [05:19] some multimedia framework [05:19] liblmt [05:20] libmlt1 [05:20] hello, i can't see video in dragon player audio is ok, video is black screen only [05:21] reybul: you see a blue icon pop up by the clock? [05:21] no [05:21] reybul: you need codecs [05:23] hey [05:24] hey [05:24] ok, but after all work fine, and i install vlc player [05:25] just installed kubuntu. now it asks for a password... what can i do? [05:25] and now not work vlc player o dgragon player [05:25] hello room! [05:25] hello zagrot [05:25] !codecs [05:25] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [05:25] i'm a noob... sry [05:26] codecs ok, tks [05:26] i didn't give a pass for kubuntu [05:26] try blank [05:26] i'm on windows xp pro now [05:26] I have a quick question, is there a konsole command to find the version of kubuntu that i'm running? similar th the ver command in dos? [05:26] everything blank(2 lines)? [05:27] ok [05:27] i'll check that [05:27] what did you put for username? [05:27] thats your username [05:27] for password is whatever you put in or blank? [05:27] zagrot: uname -a and kded4 -version [05:28] i didn't give it a username as i can remember... i had hard work last days [05:28] thanks a ton iconmefisto [05:28] kamola: it wont install without it [05:29] zagrot: there's also lsb_release -a [05:29] ok, brain get up now! thx [05:29] wa's lsb? [05:30] sorry, what's lsb? [05:30] big thx ilumi! [05:30] zagrot: stands for Linux Standard Base, but I don't really know what it means [05:31] sounds meaningful [05:31] i like to know my acronyms, it helps figure things ou when they get complicated [05:31] *gets pen and paper* [05:32] man lsb_release might explain (or might not) [05:32] tks, i'll check codecs and links ubottu [05:33] it gave me the information i was looking for [05:34] the previous two as well, but in a bit more cryptic form [05:34] they tell you different things, linux kernel that is running, distro version, and kde version [05:35] reybul: ubottu thanks you [05:36] i really wanted distro version so i can look for a tutorial to modify my grub menu [05:36] but i'm not very knowelegable of the *nix command line yet [05:37] i did not want to find outdated information and screw up my new installation [05:38] zagrot: ok, there are now 2 versions of grub. you'll likely find lots of info about grub, but from 9.10 karmic, grub2 is installed by default [05:38] that is good to know [05:39] !grub2 [05:39] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [05:39] i already found a grub tutorial, but the menu.1st file did not exist in /boot/grub [05:39] try that link ^^ [05:39] and then i realised that i downloded the kubunu iso maybe three months ago [05:40] wasn't sure if here had been a release since then [05:41] back in a few mines [05:41] minutes === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [05:46] back again. i really don't remember my loginnick for kubuntu now... is there any other choice to remember that? [05:47] ---hard work-- and i'm a noob [05:48]