[03:38] <nunyab_> Hello, does anyone know of a fix for the logon loop issue?
[03:44] <hggdh> what logon loop issue?
[04:15] <micahg> bdmurray: latest lp extension is awesome
[04:38] <bdmurray> micahg: thanks!
[04:39] <micahg> bdmurray: if I think of some other keywords I'll let you know
[07:16] <micahg1> bdmurray: greasemonkey shouldn't do its thing on the +edit page :)
[07:18] <micahg> bdmurray: it actually seems like it interferes with the LP AJAX stuff
[09:05] <Kermiac> Hi ppl. Anyone around I can ask about a problem I'm having with "Compiled LPGM Scripts"?
[09:06] <jmarsden> Kermiac: Unless your issue is related to bug triage, ask in #ubuntu not here.
[09:06] <Kermiac> ok, sorry mate
[09:09] <persia> OR file a bug, and we may be able to help triage it.
[09:10] <persia> The point being that this isn't a support channel.
[09:12] <Kermiac> Thanks persia. Well, I do use it to help automate some of the tasks for bug triage... but I also understand the point jmarsden made that this isn't a support channel. I was just wondering if anyone in here uses it.  i've filed a "question" https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts/+question/96514
[09:14] <persia> Kermiac: That looks like a bug either in launchpad or the LP_Karma_Sufix scripts.
[09:14] <persia> Dunno if LP_Karma_Suffix scripts have a bug tracker, but if they do, filing there would serve you best.
[09:16] <Kermiac> thanks for having a look persia. Yeah, I filed the question against their PPA. Now that someone else thinks it looks like a bug I'll go ahead & link a bug report to the question too. Thanks for the advice
[09:16] <persia> Well, the trick is figuring out where to put the bug.
[09:17] <persia> Last I knew, there wasn't a way to link a bug to a PPA, and we tend not to like bugs against PPAs filed against Ubuntu.
[09:18] <Kermiac> I installed it from their PPA, but the scripts are also on Launchpad
[09:18] <Kermiac> https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts
[09:20] <persia> That's a project!  File a bug there.
[09:20] <persia> And if you're lucky, somewhere on that project page it will explain how to contact the devs, and where to ask for support (I doubt #ubuntu is right for this case)
[09:20] <Kermiac> yeah, that's what I was going to do. Thanks again persia :)
[13:48] <LimCore> guys.. what is up with kgpg.. seriously
[13:48] <LimCore> like 5 crashes in 5 minutes, what ever I do
[13:52] <jpds> LimCore: Well, find out what's crashing it with debug/strace/...
[13:55] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/472530
[13:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 472530 in kdeutils "KGpg (kgpg), signal: Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:55] <LimCore> gpg crashes all the time for me and other reporters. Set priority perhaps?
[13:55] <LimCore> * kgpg
[15:01] <bddebian> Boo
[15:19] <thekorn> bddebian, what would I do without you, your daily "boo" tells me when it's time to go home ;)
[15:21] <bddebian> Heh :)
[16:05] <bdrung> seb128: can you have a look at bug #504153 and #503789 (you uploaded the lastest gtkmm2.4 package)?
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 504153 in libkml "Please sync libkml 1.1.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504153
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 503789 in gbgoffice "Please sync gbgoffice 1.4-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503789
[16:06] <seb128> bdrung, I just update the thing, code is come from upstream though
[16:08] <bdrung> seb128: do you think that this is an upstream bug or do the packages need an update to be compatible to the new version?
[16:09] <seb128> bdrung, seems rather an upstream bug
[16:09] <seb128> I've pinged the upstream maintainer on IRC
[16:09] <seb128> waiting for a reply now
[16:10] <bdrung> thanks. what's the name of their irc channel?
[16:13] <fujimitsu> limcore mentioned some kgpg segfault issue earlier. just installed kgpg myself and it fails to start at all, even from terminal, it throws me back at prompt with no errors..
[16:37] <jcastro> hggdh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Upstream/Contacts
[16:37] <jcastro> hggdh: I've been changing the tone to be not so strict-sounding
[16:47] <hggdh> jcastro: looking
[17:01] <hggdh> jcastro: may I add/change?
[17:03] <jcastro> hggdh: feel free!
[17:30] <hggdh> jcastro, changes saved
[17:31] <hggdh> jcastro: the most important (for me) was changing the tone on the first sentence
[17:52] <jcastro> hggdh: those changes are much better, thank you
[19:14] <cyan-spam> hi all. has anyone gotten a chance to look at the FindRightPackage improvements i mailed out a week or so ago?
[19:45] <Flare183> cyan-spam: Link?
[19:46] <cyan-spam> flare183: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2009-December/001719.html
[19:47]  * Flare183 reads it
[19:48] <Flare183> cyan-spam: I see what your saying about the Wiki Page.
[19:55] <cyan-spam> flare183: mhm. what do you think about my changes? do they help? do they target the right group of readers?
[19:55] <Flare183> hmmm
[19:56] <Flare183> cyan-spam: Think it does target the correct group of readers. I like the changes, but I also think you might want a second opinion too. Because like, I'm only one person so yeah.
[19:57] <cyan-spam> flare183: yeah. thank you :)
[19:57] <Flare183> cyan-spam: Your welcome :)
[20:00] <hggdh> cyan-spam: looking, and sorry for the delay
[20:08] <hggdh> cyan-spam: on the example for xprop -- you say " the slash is important", should be "the backslash ..."
[20:08] <cyan-spam> hggdh: ok. thank you for checking it out!
[20:08] <hggdh> cyan-spam: still going through it
[20:09] <hggdh> but I like it very much
[20:09] <cyan-spam> sweet
[20:11] <hggdh> on " finding the right package -- you might want to add in ' apt-file': " apt-file search picasa.exe", for example. apt-file works for all packages, even if not installed (and dpkg -S only works for installed packages)
[20:11] <cyan-spam> hggdh: hey, i didn't even know about that command. thanks!
[20:11] <hggdh> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[20:11] <cyan-spam> ah ok
[20:12] <hggdh> charlie-tca: around? what is the name for the display manager on xubuntu?
[20:13] <cyan-spam> hggdh: it uses gdm
[20:13] <hggdh> ah, thanks, I have all three installed, but under gdm, so I was not sure
[20:15] <hggdh> cyan-spam: marvelous, thank you very much. Please put it in place
[20:15] <cyan-spam> hggdh: will do, thanks so much for checking it out
[20:24] <hggdh> cyan-spam: are you interested if following coreutils bugs?
[20:25] <cyan-spam> hggdh: possibly, if you need help there. i do work on the command line enough
[20:27] <charlie-tca> hggdh: yeah, I am here. I had to grab food
[20:34] <hggdh> charlie-tca: cyan-spam already answered, thank you
[20:34] <charlie-tca> no problem
[20:34] <hggdh> cyan-spam: all help is welcome ;-)
[20:35] <hggdh> and I have been sorta busy lately, and there are some 80 bugs on coreutils to go through
[20:35] <cyan-spam> hm ok
[20:35] <cyan-spam> i assume this is in response to my mentor request?
[20:35] <charlie-tca> Please, as these pages get re-written, let's not forget the dirivatives. So much is being centered on Ubuntu only again
[20:36] <cyan-spam> charlie-tca: are there any glaring places i ignored derivatives?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> Haven't looked that over good yet. more and more, I see references to "in gnome" or "in ubuntu" and it leaves out kubuntu and xubuntu mythbuntu
[20:38] <charlie-tca> I'm trying to read it now
[20:38] <cyan-spam> charlie-tca: ok. i was about to submit... want me to wait?
[20:38] <charlie-tca> No, go ahead. We can add later if we need to.
[20:38] <cyan-spam> ok
[20:39] <charlie-tca> I think you waited long enough already... ;-(
[20:39] <cyan-spam> hehe
[20:39] <cyan-spam> i think this /page/ has waited long enough
[20:39] <hggdh> cyan-spam: yes, it can be in response ;-)
[20:40] <charlie-tca> yeah, that sounds right.
[20:40] <charlie-tca> hggdh: I am trying to get back up to par on bugs. Then I will take on mentee's.
[20:40] <cyan-spam> hggdh: haha, ok. i mentioned on my wiki page that i've been going through bugs without a package in my free time lately. it doesn't seem too many people have been working on that.
[20:41] <hggdh> charlie-tca: great news (cuz this means you are doing better)!
[20:41] <charlie-tca> This is true, too
[20:41] <hggdh> cyan-spam: OK. Would you like me as your mentor?
[20:41] <cyan-spam> hggdh: if you have time! i know you are involved in a lot
[20:43] <hggdh> cyan-spam: OK, I will accept you & mark the wiki accordingly
[20:43] <yofel> cyan-spam: heh, I look through no-package bugs too, now if that bug count would actually start decreasing...
[20:44] <cyan-spam> yofel: seriously. it's never-ending!
[20:44] <charlie-tca> cyan-spam: the parts about "Launch System - Preferences"; Xubuntu doesn't have that at all; I don't think kubuntu does either
[20:44] <cyan-spam> hggdh: sweet, thanks!
[20:44] <yofel> I'm looking though the older ones right now, there are a lot from the karmic testing phase that weren't looked at at all
[20:44] <charlie-tca> that whole paragraph applies to gnome desktop environment only
[20:45] <cyan-spam> charlie-tca: the "application without a menu" part? you're right.
[20:45] <charlie-tca> The first section under Determining the Executable Path
[20:46] <cyan-spam> after all, what /is/ the policy for derivatives? which derivatives are we supposed to include?
[20:46] <cyan-spam> i tried to stick with ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu since those are listed as "officially supported" on ubuntu.com
[20:46] <cyan-spam> though that section is obviously missing kubuntu.
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Official recognized derivatives stick to the wiki pages as much as possible
[20:47] <cyan-spam> so all wiki pages should support ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu studio, mythbuntu? (i know there's overlap)
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, Netmix, and I think Mythbuntu/mythtv now
[20:48] <cyan-spam> netmix forgot that one too
[20:48] <cyan-spam> that's quite a list...
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Yeah, and we all have to change how it works, just to make it worse
[20:48] <yofel> cyan-spam: the menu-editor in kde is launched with: right click the application launcher -> Menu Editor
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu has no menu-editor
[20:49] <cyan-spam> yofel: if you'd like to add instructions for kubuntu that would be awesome. i don't have kde installed
[20:49] <charlie-tca> That's why I said we will add/change it as needed. The main thing is get something usable out there
[20:49] <yofel> cyan-spam: might do that over the weekend, but it would be nice if your page could be uploaded first so I have a clean page to work with
[20:50] <yofel> cyan-spam: exactly
[20:50] <yofel> charlie-tca: ^^^
[20:50] <charlie-tca> I'll go through this weekend too
[20:50] <cyan-spam> charlie-tca: ok
[20:50] <cyan-spam> yofel: i've submitted it already
[20:50] <cyan-spam> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
[20:51] <charlie-tca> Great job on it, by the way
[20:51] <cyan-spam> charlie-tca: thank you :)
[20:51] <charlie-tca> We like usable pages
[20:51] <cyan-spam> haha me too.
[20:52] <cyan-spam> i hated telling bug reporters to look at that page when i could barely use it myself!
[20:55] <cyan-spam> hggdh: so what are the next steps?
[20:56] <hggdh> cyan-spam: you can pretty much keep on doing what you are doing now -- and, of course, you can ask any questions you want to, to myself or anybody else here.
[20:56] <hggdh> cyan-spam: meanwhile, I will be checking your bug work from now on :-)
[21:13] <cyan-spam> hggdh: ok, sounds good. i'll have to behave then ;)
[21:13] <cyan-spam> signing off for now
[21:13] <cyan-spam> see yall
[21:25] <yofel> bdmurray: again about the lp-scripts. The file that needs to be updated with a newer kernel response is http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/greasemonkey/bugsquad-replies.xml . I have no idea who has to do that and you're the only one I know I can ask ^^
[21:25] <bdmurray> yofel: please pastebin or e-mail me what you think the response should be and I'll look at changing it
[21:27] <yofel> bdmurray: all I want is it to use the response from the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Debugging%20Kernel%20General The one it uses right now is the old one.
[21:28] <hggdh> yofel: would you be willing to try bug 264313 fwith a coreutils from GIT?
[21:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 264313 in coreutils "ls --color hangs for directories linked from network " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264313
[21:29] <yofel> hggdh: sure
[21:29] <hggdh> (I mean, git clone git://git.gnu.org/coreutils, and go from there ;-)
[21:29] <yofel> though thinking a bit more about the issue I guess this is ls trying to find out if the link is broken or not and NFS hanging itself up to not lose data
[21:29] <hggdh> or I could start packaging it
[21:30] <hggdh> but only happens with --color, right?
[21:30] <bdmurray> yofel: okay, got it
[21:31] <yofel> hggdh: yes, but only --color actually cares if a link is broken or not (different color)
[21:31] <hggdh> ah, yes
[21:31]  * hggdh does not have any remote fs to test on
[21:31] <yofel> I'll test git now anyway
[21:32] <hggdh> yofel: you will also need automake 1.11.1, Lucid carries 1.11
[21:32] <hggdh> so... git clone git://git.gnu.org/automake
[21:33] <hggdh> upstream is going now to 8.3, and we are still at 7.4...
[23:48] <xteejx> hi all
[23:49] <xteejx> bug 228302, marked it as metabug - high chance of more dupes, but doesn't seem to be anyone taking a look at it, its prob a kernel bug
[23:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 228302 in baltix "[KARMIC] No DMA nor 32bits IO support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228302
[23:57] <micahg> xteejx: you might want to poke the kernel team
[23:57] <micahg> since it's triaged already
[23:57] <xteejx> micahg: Hi!! and irc you mean?#
[23:57] <micahg> xteejx: yep, in #ubuntu-kernel
[23:58] <xteejx> micahg: kool will do that if anyones awake and not snowed in!!