[00:01] <_diablo> that is ridiculous
[00:01] <_diablo> copyright law annoys me so much
[00:13]  * Takyoji copyrights diablo
[00:14]  * Takyoji spraypaints Mickey Mouse on a wall, and runs off chased by lawyers of Warner Chappell
[00:15] <jenkinbr> lol
[00:15]  * jenkinbr eats RIAA
[00:38] <Takyoji> Any thoughts on the Nexus One?
[00:46] <_diablo> it's sexy as hell
[00:48] <Takyoji> I wonder if Windows Mobile will continue to supposedly decline. :P
[00:48] <_diablo> I would guess so
[00:48] <_diablo> it's awful
[00:48] <_diablo> they have to rewrite it
[00:49] <Takyoji> hah http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices
[00:53] <Takyoji> Gotta love how companies try to sue in the consideration of being a "DMCA violation" of something leaked.
[00:54] <_diablo> haha, yeeeeah
[02:13] <__diablo> anyone here using lucid yet?
[02:17] <Takyoji> I think I downloaded the ISO a while ago of Alpha 1 to poke at in a VM, but haven't done much since with it
[02:18] <_diablo> Takyoji: you don't know off hand if it's still alpha-1, do you?
[02:18] <Takyoji> I think it's still Alpha 1
[02:18] <_diablo> because I seem to recall Snoopy saying he was excited for 10.04a4
[02:18] <Takyoji> I can check infact
[02:18] <_diablo> okay, that was a weird comment
[02:18] <_diablo> yeah, it's on my calendar
[02:18] <_diablo> lucid A2 was scheduled for jan 14
[02:19] <_diablo> is there a torrent location for the alpha? I found the direct, but I like sharing ;)
[02:19] <Takyoji> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/
[02:19] <_diablo> Takyoji: beautiful. thanks a bunch!
[02:25] <Takyoji> #ubuntu is a blackhole; it just sucks me in and doesn't let me out..
[02:25] <Takyoji> Because I'm too compelled to help others
[02:28] <_diablo> I understand :) I do that on fedora sometimes
[02:28] <_diablo> luckily I'm ignorant enough to not be much help to anyone
[02:28] <_diablo> so I just word vomit all over it
[02:38] <Takyoji> otherwise apparently nobody had a response for my question about the lack of write-ability for SD cards. :P
[02:39] <Takyoji> Shall I harass the mailing list about it to see if anyone has an idea?
[02:39] <Takyoji> (the Minnesota mailing list)
[02:42] <_diablo> I would
[02:42] <_diablo> People there are very good with very technical stuff. Put as much info in the first email as possible
[20:03] <JChristensen> Hi I'm new
[20:05] <mr_steve> JChristensen: hi!
[20:06] <JChristensen> I was looking at starting a LoCo team but i see it has already been done
[20:09] <mr_steve> Yep, that's how I found this team, I was doing some research on starting a local group and found someone had already done it
[20:09] <JChristensen> have you gone to any events?
[20:10] <mr_steve> No, not yet. There was an installfest a while ago, but other than that we haven't had many in-person type events
[20:11] <mr_steve> But I and perhaps _diablo will be trying to do fairly regular "Ubuntu Hour" events at coffeeshops in Minneapolis at least
[20:11] <JChristensen> Oh ok, I started a consulting firm last august and i'm looking to get do some community events to get the word out about free software
[20:12] <JChristensen> its amazing how many people i've talked to have never even herd of linux ubuntu etc.
[20:13] <mr_steve> Yeah, that's the idea behind the Ubuntu Hour, to just sort of sit at a coffeeshop with a bunch of Ubuntu stuff on the table and engage people in conversation
[20:13] <mr_steve> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[20:14] <mr_steve> You might want to check out these guys too, they actually have regular in-person meetings: http://www.penguinsunbound.org/
[20:14] <JChristensen> ok thank you
[20:15] <JChristensen> you ever think about doing a community ed class?
[20:15] <mr_steve> Personally I haven't, I don't know if the idea's been kicked around here before or not
[20:16] <mr_steve> tonyyarusso would probably know, but he seems to be away at the moment
[20:16] <JChristensen> i've been working on that idea for a while
[20:17] <mr_steve> Oh, before I forget, I should mention that we are now trying to have regular IRC meetings in this channel, on the first monday of every month at 7PM CST
[20:17] <mr_steve> Anyone is basically welcome to contribute topics for the agenda
[20:17] <JChristensen> i'll have to put that on my agenda
[20:19] <mr_steve> Yeah, it's not always that active in here, but most of us try to participate in the meetings. It's usually more active in the evenings, too.
[20:20] <tonyyarusso> JChristensen: I'm not aware of any type of community ed class effort yet, no.
[20:20] <mr_steve> ah there he is, hey :)
[20:21] <JChristensen> what do you think of the idea?
[20:21] <tonyyarusso> Could be interesting - do you have more details of what you have in mind?
[20:23] <JChristensen> would have to come up with a curriculum, start out with an introduction into free software, offer liveCD's, get into openoffice a little...
[20:23] <JChristensen> maybe do an install
[21:36] <Takyoji> Oh come on, nobody Slashdotted news of my birthday; geez! :P
[21:43] <Snoopy> So the 64-bit Ubuntu is supposed to be faster but it had too many bugs to tell
[21:44] <Snoopy> I so then I installed the 32-bit 9.04
[22:27] <_diablo> mr_steve: you and definitely _diablo :)
[22:28] <_diablo> Snoopy: hi
[22:29] <_diablo> 64 will be faster. did you say that 64 10.04 had bugs? I mean, it's an alpha
[22:29] <_diablo> 64 bit 9.04 will be as stable as 32 bit 9.04
[22:29] <_diablo> although, may I ask why you're not using 9.10?
[22:29] <_diablo> it's stable as well
[22:29] <Snoopy> 9.10 has less stuff
[22:29] <Snoopy> like the screensavers
[22:29] <_diablo> Snoopy: like what?
[22:29] <_diablo> you can install those you know...
[22:30] <Snoopy> I did not know that
[22:30] <_diablo> but about the shirt: we don't know that information yet. tonyyarusso is the one in charge I believe, but we don't have a critical mass yet. We're going to wait a few days. We should know by next monday or tuesday
[22:30] <Snoopy> 10.04 is so unstable, the restart after the upgrade was bad... I had trouble getting to the log in page
[22:30] <_diablo> we want to give people at least a week to respond
[22:31] <_diablo> Snoopy: yeah, that's what happens with an alpha1 release. it won't be partially stable until a release candidate
[22:31] <_diablo> even the beta won't be stable
[22:31] <_diablo> stick with 9.10 unless you're looking for pain like me ;)
[22:32] <Snoopy> You have 10.04?
[22:33] <_diablo> Snoopy: in a virtual box
[22:36] <Snoopy> _diablo: How is the virtual box working for you then?
[22:37] <_diablo> well, I have only installed it and haven't played with it yet
[22:37] <Snoopy> ok
[22:37] <_diablo> but I ran 10.04 for a week or two before the alpha came out
[22:37] <Snoopy> how?
[22:37] <h00k> daily builds!
[22:38] <Snoopy> oh
[22:38] <Snoopy> I still do not know much about Ubuntu
[22:39] <Snoopy> But I am trying to not have to rely on windows
[22:41] <Snoopy> I am having trouble playing videos that need the windows speech decoder
[22:42] <_diablo> h00k: also, 9.10 using lucid repos :)
[22:42] <h00k> or this,sure
[22:43] <_diablo> Snoopy: honestly, if you're looking to move from windows, it will be much easier to just use a stable release. set up a virtual box to test experimental stuff
[22:43] <_diablo> also, make a lot of backups :)
[22:43] <Snoopy> how can I make backups to a usb hard drive?
[22:44] <_diablo> Snoopy: do you mean automatically, or manually?
[22:44] <_diablo> also, what do you want backed up?
[22:44] <Snoopy> I want everything backed up and it would be nice to have it automatic. I would like to boot off of the backup
[22:45] <_diablo> define everything. your entire operating system?
[22:46] <_diablo> i mean, you can copy your entire filesystem... but you might as well just install your OS to a portable drive like an sd card
[22:46] <Snoopy> Everything on my hard drive
[22:47] <Snoopy> what would the easiest way be to have everything on an external hard drive and be able to boot up from the hard drive on a mac?
[22:48] <_diablo> oof. I don't have much experience with Macs but from what I know, they are hard to configure
[22:49] <_diablo> and don't interface well with PCs. I am not the right person to ask though.
[22:49] <_diablo> ummm, I would ask on the #ubuntu channel. Or ask again when someone else is on here
[22:50] <Snoopy> they can't be that much different because of the intel processor
[22:50] <_diablo> sorry I couldn't help with that
[22:50] <_diablo> ahhhh, how wrong that is.
[22:50] <_diablo> they have weird MBR settings on their hard drives.
[22:50] <_diablo> and I'm not sure their BIOS allow external boot devices without serious hacking
[22:50] <_diablo> the CPU isn't the issue, it's the peripherals.
[22:50] <_diablo> but I gtg, dinner. sorry I couldn't help.
[22:51] <Snoopy> bye