/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/07/#ubuntu-website.txt

Ryan11There's a broken image link on this page: http://www.canonical.com/services/certification11:38
Ryan11It links to www-admin.canonical etc11:38
Ryan11Also, the image src is a PDF file11:41
cjohnstonnewz2000: ping16:38
cjohnstonnewz2000: whenever you come around.. on https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/index.html it states that if your version of ubuntu is not listed above, it is no longer supported.. 6.06 server is still supported, but desktop is not... therefore, the link to 6.06 (imho) should be changed to link directly to the server version, and it should be noted that it is server only.17:02
cjohnstonalso bug 504333 I just created..17:03
cjohnstonbug #50433317:04
cjohnstonhmm.. what happened to the little buggy bot..17:04
newz2000hi, sorry, been in meetings all morning (and have another in 10min)17:19
cjohnstonnp17:22
cjohnston:-)17:22
cjohnstonnewz2000: something else cool: (or not cool) http://dump.chrisjohnston.org/17:24
cjohnstonlook at the image.. thats zoomed out in firefox17:24
newz2000oh, yeah, good catch17:24
cjohnstonwant me to make a bug out of it?17:25
jpdsbug #46384917:25
jpdshttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/46384917:25
cjohnstonthanks jpds17:26
cjohnstonjpds: think this is related: http://dump.chrisjohnston.org/ubuntu_main_page_2.png  ?17:28
jpdscjohnston: Don't think so.17:29
jpdscjohnston: Looking at your status bar, I think you might be interested in the ASNumber extension though.17:30
cjohnston?17:31
jpdscjohnston: http://www.asnumber.networx.ch/17:32
cjohnstoncool17:33
cjohnstonill give it a try.. thanks17:33
cjohnstonahh... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/376919 newz2000 easy fix..17:50
cjohnstonmdke: thanks for your response17:50
* newz2000 fixed the link to PDF mentioned by Ryan1117:52
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cjohnstonnewz2000: you still in meetings?19:24
newz2000cjohnston: no, just munching on a banana19:24
newz2000what's up?19:24
cjohnstonfridge.ubuntu.com19:25
cjohnstonyou could be my kids best friend with a banana19:26
newz2000:-)19:26
cjohnstondo you see the background issue?19:26
newz2000fridge needs a lot of love19:26
newz2000oh, interesting19:26
cjohnstonI know they were talking about WP'ing it19:26
newz2000I don't remember that being there before19:26
cjohnstonI believe there is a bug already filed on it.. I just dont remember which one19:26
cjohnstonits similar to the one i filed earlier..19:27
newz2000I'm guessing there used to be a <div style="clear:both">&nbsp;</div> somewhere inside #contentr19:27
cjohnstondown to 66 new bugs... ;-)19:28
newz2000you're awesome19:28
* cjohnston wishs he had bug control access19:28
cjohnstonhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/49938319:28
newz2000cjohnston: what do you mean by bug control access?19:28
cjohnstonwould make my life with you easier19:28
newz2000I'm not sure what this capability is, is it a permission I can grant?19:29
cjohnstongive me a sec.. im lookin for the docs19:29
newz2000I can make you a member of the ubuntu-website-editors team, that may do it19:30
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl19:30
cjohnstonno.. i dont think that would19:31
cjohnstoncause its a LP thing19:31
cjohnstonset statuses and such19:31
newz2000is this you: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston19:31
cjohnstonyessir19:32
newz2000ok, see if you have the permission now?19:32
cjohnstonI do19:32
cjohnstonhey dhillon-v1019:32
newz2000great19:32
dhillon-v10newz2000, hey what's up :) happy new year19:33
newz2000cjohnston: I'm going to reply to your email about editing the website but my unoffical response is inline with what Matt East said...19:33
dhillon-v10cjohnston, hi :D19:33
newz2000hey dhillon-v1019:33
cjohnstonyou don't need to reply for me..19:33
newz2000we're getting ready to overhaul Canonical.com and ubuntu.com will be affected signficantly by this19:33
newz2000some of the changes we're working on are an approval queue for website changes. This will definitely go live by Lucid release (probably Beta 1)19:34
dhillon-v10newz2000, i have the same kind of same question as cjohnston, we can fix bugs, but where can we get the sources, and do we submit the patches to you (if any)19:34
newz2000but it may take a little time to get our standards and processes in line before we can let many people in19:34
cjohnstonhmm.. I guess by making me a website editor, I have more control over website bugs, but my access hasnt changed in regular bugs19:34
cjohnstoncool19:34
newz2000To make matters slightly more difficult for everyone in the short term (but better in the long term) we'll be doing a freeze on the website on Monday until Beta period19:35
newz2000So we probably won't be able to close many bugs in that time period19:35
cjohnstonlike to me the fridge thing should atleast be set to medium.. probably high.. and that should also make your job easier because you can then sort by priority..19:35
newz2000yeah19:35
cjohnstonthats quite a while19:35
dhillon-v10newz2000, alright that works too, so after the beta period we can pick up bugs and work on them19:35
newz2000yeah19:35
newz2000dhillon-v10: some time after that, yes, but it likely won't happen right away19:36
dhillon-v10newz2000, okay :) I am currently working over at the edubuntu website stuff any ways19:36
newz2000dhillon-v10: what sources do you need? I can likely get you whatever you want19:37
dhillon-v10newz2000, oh and something really important, sorry i had to to do a clean install of my system, and I lost the instructions for planet planet theme sorry, so what was I supposed to do there19:37
dhillon-v10newz2000, just for the bugs so that we can make changes, is it in a branch of core-docs19:37
newz2000it's all in a CMS19:38
newz2000There is no way easy way to dump the source nor to apply patches19:38
dhillon-v10newz2000, ahh okay, possible to give me the instructions again for the planet planer theme porting that we were talking about a while ago :)19:39
cjohnstonyou didnt by chance read what I said about 6.06 on help.ubuntu.com did you newz200019:39
newz2000I don't think I"ve read that yet cjohnston19:39
newz2000dhillon-v10: give me a moment to find it19:39
dhillon-v10newz2000, sorry for bothering you :)19:40
cjohnstonhmm.. newz2000 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/106056  - mdke's question..19:42
cjohnstonif not, easy fix19:42
cjohnston(if you know the answer off the top of your head)19:42
newz2000ah, that's an interesting one19:43
newz2000where'd our bug bot go?19:43
newz2000:-(19:43
cjohnstoni dunno19:43
cjohnstonthats what i asked earlier19:43
newz2000dhillon-v10: what's your email again?19:43
cjohnstonwhen he didnt talk to me19:43
cjohnstonnewz2000: do you want me to use priorites (high/med/critical/etc?)19:44
newz2000cjohnston: yeah, that would be good…19:45
cjohnstonok.. cool19:45
newz2000Use your best guess, but roughly,19:46
newz2000if it seriously imparis users accessing the site or downloading ubuntu, critical, if it makes ubuntu look bad then high19:46
cjohnstoneverything critical.. it is the face of ubuntu after all19:46
cjohnstonyessir!19:46
newz2000yeah, and we should all start writing in UPPER CASE. :-)19:46
cjohnstonups is here19:46
cjohnstonhmm19:46
cjohnstonby looks bad.. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/463849 ?19:48
cjohnstonor by looks bad https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/267235 ?19:49
cjohnston(define makes ubuntu look bad, would be my question)19:50
dhillon-v10newz2000, the bug cjohnston mentioned here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/267235 is a super easy one, how do I go about fixing it19:51
cjohnstondhillon-v10: basically.. we cant.. yet19:51
newz2000cjohnston: a typo or broken graphic in a conspicuous area of the site that many people will see19:51
cjohnstonI asked the same question with the same bug19:51
dhillon-v10cjohnston, oh yah you are right sorry I forgot about that :P19:52
cjohnstonlol19:52
newz2000that page is quite old. It really needs to be moved ot the wiki19:52
newz2000and maintaned by the team in charge of the mirrors19:53
dhillon-v10newz2000, hey until the freeze is going on, can i triage the bugs and reject others that aren't needed19:55
cjohnstondhillon-v10 is tryin to steal my job19:55
cjohnstonlol19:55
cjohnston:-P19:55
dhillon-v10cjohnston, oh if you want to do it, then okay :) I'll find something else then, maybe the kubuntu website bugs :P19:56
newz2000Two can't hurt. :-)19:56
cjohnstonI'm just messing with him..19:56
newz2000Can one of you see if there's a team in charge of mirrors and assign the bug to them to move the docs onto the wiki and maintain it?19:56
newz2000that hasn't been touched in at least 18 months and the person who was in charge of it has been gone from canonical over a year19:57
dhillon-v10newz2000, I think we can move the bug/assign the ubuntu-docs team to this one maybe ?19:57
dhillon-v10cjohnston, :)19:57
newz2000it may not be the right team, I think there was at one time a team in charge of mirrors19:57
newz2000if so, they may be the best bet19:57
dhillon-v10newz2000, yah the Ubuntu Mirror Admins is that it19:58
newz2000I'd suspect so19:58
newz2000I've asked in #ubuntu-irc to get our bug bot back19:59
dhillon-v10newz2000, here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mirror-admins I think we may have to talk to people over at #launchpad19:59
cjohnstoni want mr. buggy!19:59
cjohnstonlol19:59
newz2000dhillon-v10: there may be an irc channel for them19:59
newz2000feeling like investigating?20:00
dhillon-v10newz2000, sure :)20:00
cjohnstonfigure out who is on the team, what their irc nicks are and start /whois'in em20:00
cjohnstonhehe20:00
dhillon-v10newz2000, yup #ubuntu-mirrors20:00
newz2000ok, I've got to knuckle down and get a few things done but if you need me, ping me or leave a message and I'll catch up in about an hour20:01
newz2000by the way, I'd call the 463849 high priority20:01
dhillon-v10newz2000, alright20:01
newz2000but it's border line because it doesn't affect a lot of people (need a very wide screen to see it)20:01
cjohnstondhillon-v10: https://forms.canonical.com/landscapetrial/thanks/   - are you able to pull up that page without filling out the forum20:06
cjohnstonform20:06
dhillon-v10cjohnston, what form ?? I see something like this:20:07
dhillon-v10Search this site:20:07
dhillon-v10Thank you for completing our Landscape trial registration form.20:07
cjohnstonright.. is the footer layout messed up20:07
cjohnstonhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/504333 does it look like the attachment on this bug report?20:08
dhillon-v10cjohnston, precisely, I was just about to upload the screenshot to imageshack and send it to you :)20:09
cjohnstoncan you confirm the bug then please20:09
cjohnston;-)20:09
cjohnstonalso, if you are talking to the mirrors people, may want to point them to this one: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/16286520:10
dhillon-v10cjohnston, done :) I think I should apply for bug-control for some time soon20:10
cjohnstondhillon-v10: newz2000 gave me bugcontrol access for the website project only.. so i dont have it for regular bugs20:11
dhillon-v10cjohnston, ahh nice :) I have triaged a *lot* of bugs so I though I might apply20:11
newz2000dhillon-v10: I'll make you a member of the team to triage, what's your launchpad id?20:12
cjohnstonare you a bugsquad member?20:12
dhillon-v10newz2000, dhillon-v10, also where do i go for kubuntu website, can you do that one too20:12
dhillon-v10cjohnston, not yet all the applying thing takes effort and I am lazy :P20:13
newz2000dhillon-v10: I'd speak with ryanakca on that. I don't keep in touch w/ their processes and procedures20:13
newz2000I may be able to grant it but would prefer to get the OK from them20:13
dhillon-v10newz2000, alright I'll ask nixternal then :)20:13
newz2000ok. /join #drupal-support20:16
newz2000grr20:16
* cjohnston wonders whats goin on in #drupal-support20:17
cjohnstonheh20:17
* newz2000 is asking for drupal help20:17
* cjohnston doesnt like drupal20:18
cjohnstonalthough i probably need to learn it.20:18
newz2000there is a good book by O'Reilly called "Using Drupal" by the lullabot team20:20
newz2000if you are a membere of a LUG or someuser group that has a relationship w/ O'Reilly you can probably get them to give you a copy for free20:21
cjohnstonhmm20:21
cjohnstonI doubt my loco would.. and im not a member of a lug20:22
dhillon-v10cjohnston, i am currently learning drupal, from this good book, do you need it, I can send a link to you20:22
dhillon-v10cjohnston, your loco might :D20:22
cjohnstonsure20:22
cjohnstonisnt it yours too?20:22
dhillon-v10cjohnston, lol yah :)20:23
cjohnstonill ask itnet20:24
dhillon-v10cjohnston, just a sec.20:24
newz2000cjohnston: your loco should apply w/ Oreilly to be an offical user group. Free stuff in exchange for reviews on amazon and etc.20:24
cjohnstonhmm.. newz2000 you dont by chance have a link handy for info on that do you? I'll talk to our leader about it..20:25
newz2000in gmail everything is handy... :-)20:25
cjohnstonlol20:25
newz2000http://ug.oreilly.com20:26
cjohnstonmaybe i just need a copy of your gmail then.. lol  if everything is handy maybe it could help me pass nursing school20:26
newz2000I don't have much in there that would help with that. :-)20:26
cjohnston:-(20:26
dhillon-v10cjohnston, what's your email pm me20:26
cjohnstonyou said everything20:26
cjohnstonchrisjohnston@ubuntu.com20:27
cjohnstonif i spelled all that correct20:27
cjohnstonhey.. i actually did20:27
dhillon-v10cjohnston, off to eat lunch, expect an email some time soon :D20:27
cjohnstonI guess we are members...20:27
cjohnstonits 330 dhillon-v10 lunch is long over20:28
cjohnstonlol20:28
cjohnstonim killing myself with email from all this bug stuff20:28
dhillon-v10cjohnston, nah i just got back from school so my lunch is now :)20:28
cjohnstonlol20:28
dhillon-v10cjohnston, I get over 1000 messages per day from the LKML and its hard to keep up20:28
cjohnstonlkml?20:29
dhillon-v10cjohnston, Linux Kernel Mailing List, the largest mailing list in the world, that's where most of my work is in20:29
cjohnstonim out20:30
cjohnstonlol20:30
cjohnstoni am actually gonna start unsubscribing from some stuff for the next year20:30
cjohnstonnewz2000: whenever you get time.. my loco leader doesnt know anything about getting stuff to review.. just about getting the discount price.. you dont by chance have any other info I could tell him do you?20:51
newz2000When you sign up for that program you'll get contacted. Just ask them if they have review copies.20:51
newz2000apress also has a program like this. I get tons of books to hand out.20:51
newz2000well, not tons, but in the last 6 months probably 10 − 12 books.20:52
newz2000the bot is back20:53
cjohnstonbug 25497320:54
ubot3Malone bug 254973 in ubuntu-website "Text in "Get Ubuntu" tabs falls off when zoomed in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25497320:54
cjohnstonYAY!!20:54
cjohnstonlol20:54
* cjohnston is gonna use my friend ubot3... newz2000 bug #255527 - we wouldnt provide an ubuntu studio md5sum on the hashes page, correct?21:02
ubot3Malone bug 255527 in ubuntu-website "WinMD5SUM wrong for Ubuntu Studio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25552721:02
newz2000cjohnston: we won't put any hashes on ubuntu.com. So few people need them and they're easily findable using the site search or google.21:06
newz2000you can reject any bugs about hashes21:06
cjohnstonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  ?21:07
cjohnstonexpecially with the very last line21:08
cjohnstonhmm.. why does http://help.ubuntu.com/community redirect to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  - or is it just me21:18
cjohnstonok.. on another system it redirects to SwapFaq21:19
cjohnstonhmmmm21:19
cjohnstonnewz2000: fwiw, im getting to the point with the 'new' bugs, where I don't know enough on the subjects to be able to comment on them/confirm/invalid.. do you want a tag for those, or want me to just leave them as new or..?21:59
newz2000cjohnston: I'd say leave them for new21:59
cjohnstonokie..21:59
newz2000after Monday I won't have much luck in closing out bugs so I/we can hammer the new ones and get them organized22:00
cjohnstoncool22:00
cjohnstonwhats the reason for the freeze?22:00
cjohnstonthat doesnt make sense?22:00
newz2000we'll be moving the content to multiple servers and updating it there so any changes made to live will need to be replcated to staging and testing22:00
newz2000tedious so will be limited22:00
cjohnstoni gotcha22:00
cjohnstonis the wiki gonna get a newer bigger better faster server? please? please? :-P22:01
newz2000I don't think the wiki's speed is because its not on a big enough server...22:01
cjohnstonBW issues, or just moin limitations22:01
newz2000I think the problem is that when you save content it has to scan all the files in the wiki to see who subscribed to each22:01
* newz2000 assumes the performance prob you refer to is the slow saving22:02
cjohnstonits more than just slow saving.. but yes22:02
cjohnstonslow loading too22:02
cjohnstonsometimes more than others.. but ya22:02
newz2000I don't have any hope that it will improve because of what the web team is working on22:03
cjohnstongotcha22:03

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