[11:38] <Ryan11> There's a broken image link on this page: http://www.canonical.com/services/certification
[11:38] <Ryan11> It links to www-admin.canonical etc
[11:41] <Ryan11> Also, the image src is a PDF file
[16:38] <cjohnston> newz2000: ping
[17:02] <cjohnston> newz2000: whenever you come around.. on https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/index.html it states that if your version of ubuntu is not listed above, it is no longer supported.. 6.06 server is still supported, but desktop is not... therefore, the link to 6.06 (imho) should be changed to link directly to the server version, and it should be noted that it is server only.
[17:03] <cjohnston> also bug 504333 I just created..
[17:04] <cjohnston> bug #504333
[17:04] <cjohnston> hmm.. what happened to the little buggy bot..
[17:19] <newz2000> hi, sorry, been in meetings all morning (and have another in 10min)
[17:22] <cjohnston> np
[17:22] <cjohnston> :-)
[17:24] <cjohnston> newz2000: something else cool: (or not cool) http://dump.chrisjohnston.org/
[17:24] <cjohnston> look at the image.. thats zoomed out in firefox
[17:24] <newz2000> oh, yeah, good catch
[17:25] <cjohnston> want me to make a bug out of it?
[17:25] <jpds> bug #463849
[17:25] <jpds> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/463849
[17:26] <cjohnston> thanks jpds
[17:28] <cjohnston> jpds: think this is related: http://dump.chrisjohnston.org/ubuntu_main_page_2.png  ?
[17:29] <jpds> cjohnston: Don't think so.
[17:30] <jpds> cjohnston: Looking at your status bar, I think you might be interested in the ASNumber extension though.
[17:31] <cjohnston> ?
[17:32] <jpds> cjohnston: http://www.asnumber.networx.ch/
[17:33] <cjohnston> cool
[17:33] <cjohnston> ill give it a try.. thanks
[17:50] <cjohnston> ahh... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/376919 newz2000 easy fix..
[17:50] <cjohnston> mdke: thanks for your response
[17:52]  * newz2000 fixed the link to PDF mentioned by Ryan11
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[19:24] <cjohnston> newz2000: you still in meetings?
[19:24] <newz2000> cjohnston: no, just munching on a banana
[19:24] <newz2000> what's up?
[19:25] <cjohnston> fridge.ubuntu.com
[19:26] <cjohnston> you could be my kids best friend with a banana
[19:26] <newz2000> :-)
[19:26] <cjohnston> do you see the background issue?
[19:26] <newz2000> fridge needs a lot of love
[19:26] <newz2000> oh, interesting
[19:26] <cjohnston> I know they were talking about WP'ing it
[19:26] <newz2000> I don't remember that being there before
[19:26] <cjohnston> I believe there is a bug already filed on it.. I just dont remember which one
[19:27] <cjohnston> its similar to the one i filed earlier..
[19:27] <newz2000> I'm guessing there used to be a <div style="clear:both">&nbsp;</div> somewhere inside #contentr
[19:28] <cjohnston> down to 66 new bugs... ;-)
[19:28] <newz2000> you're awesome
[19:28]  * cjohnston wishs he had bug control access
[19:28] <cjohnston> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/499383
[19:28] <newz2000> cjohnston: what do you mean by bug control access?
[19:28] <cjohnston> would make my life with you easier
[19:29] <newz2000> I'm not sure what this capability is, is it a permission I can grant?
[19:29] <cjohnston> give me a sec.. im lookin for the docs
[19:30] <newz2000> I can make you a member of the ubuntu-website-editors team, that may do it
[19:30] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[19:31] <cjohnston> no.. i dont think that would
[19:31] <cjohnston> cause its a LP thing
[19:31] <cjohnston> set statuses and such
[19:31] <newz2000> is this you: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston
[19:32] <cjohnston> yessir
[19:32] <newz2000> ok, see if you have the permission now?
[19:32] <cjohnston> I do
[19:32] <cjohnston> hey dhillon-v10
[19:32] <newz2000> great
[19:33] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, hey what's up :) happy new year
[19:33] <newz2000> cjohnston: I'm going to reply to your email about editing the website but my unoffical response is inline with what Matt East said...
[19:33] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, hi :D
[19:33] <newz2000> hey dhillon-v10
[19:33] <cjohnston> you don't need to reply for me..
[19:33] <newz2000> we're getting ready to overhaul Canonical.com and ubuntu.com will be affected signficantly by this
[19:34] <newz2000> some of the changes we're working on are an approval queue for website changes. This will definitely go live by Lucid release (probably Beta 1)
[19:34] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, i have the same kind of same question as cjohnston, we can fix bugs, but where can we get the sources, and do we submit the patches to you (if any)
[19:34] <newz2000> but it may take a little time to get our standards and processes in line before we can let many people in
[19:34] <cjohnston> hmm.. I guess by making me a website editor, I have more control over website bugs, but my access hasnt changed in regular bugs
[19:34] <cjohnston> cool
[19:35] <newz2000> To make matters slightly more difficult for everyone in the short term (but better in the long term) we'll be doing a freeze on the website on Monday until Beta period
[19:35] <newz2000> So we probably won't be able to close many bugs in that time period
[19:35] <cjohnston> like to me the fridge thing should atleast be set to medium.. probably high.. and that should also make your job easier because you can then sort by priority..
[19:35] <newz2000> yeah
[19:35] <cjohnston> thats quite a while
[19:35] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, alright that works too, so after the beta period we can pick up bugs and work on them
[19:35] <newz2000> yeah
[19:36] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: some time after that, yes, but it likely won't happen right away
[19:36] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, okay :) I am currently working over at the edubuntu website stuff any ways
[19:37] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: what sources do you need? I can likely get you whatever you want
[19:37] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, oh and something really important, sorry i had to to do a clean install of my system, and I lost the instructions for planet planet theme sorry, so what was I supposed to do there
[19:37] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, just for the bugs so that we can make changes, is it in a branch of core-docs
[19:38] <newz2000> it's all in a CMS
[19:38] <newz2000> There is no way easy way to dump the source nor to apply patches
[19:39] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, ahh okay, possible to give me the instructions again for the planet planer theme porting that we were talking about a while ago :)
[19:39] <cjohnston> you didnt by chance read what I said about 6.06 on help.ubuntu.com did you newz2000
[19:39] <newz2000> I don't think I"ve read that yet cjohnston
[19:39] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: give me a moment to find it
[19:40] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, sorry for bothering you :)
[19:42] <cjohnston> hmm.. newz2000 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/106056  - mdke's question..
[19:42] <cjohnston> if not, easy fix
[19:42] <cjohnston> (if you know the answer off the top of your head)
[19:43] <newz2000> ah, that's an interesting one
[19:43] <newz2000> where'd our bug bot go?
[19:43] <newz2000> :-(
[19:43] <cjohnston> i dunno
[19:43] <cjohnston> thats what i asked earlier
[19:43] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: what's your email again?
[19:43] <cjohnston> when he didnt talk to me
[19:44] <cjohnston> newz2000: do you want me to use priorites (high/med/critical/etc?)
[19:45] <newz2000> cjohnston: yeah, that would be good…
[19:45] <cjohnston> ok.. cool
[19:46] <newz2000> Use your best guess, but roughly,
[19:46] <newz2000> if it seriously imparis users accessing the site or downloading ubuntu, critical, if it makes ubuntu look bad then high
[19:46] <cjohnston> everything critical.. it is the face of ubuntu after all
[19:46] <cjohnston> yessir!
[19:46] <newz2000> yeah, and we should all start writing in UPPER CASE. :-)
[19:46] <cjohnston> ups is here
[19:46] <cjohnston> hmm
[19:48] <cjohnston> by looks bad.. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/463849 ?
[19:49] <cjohnston> or by looks bad https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/267235 ?
[19:50] <cjohnston> (define makes ubuntu look bad, would be my question)
[19:51] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, the bug cjohnston mentioned here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/267235 is a super easy one, how do I go about fixing it
[19:51] <cjohnston> dhillon-v10: basically.. we cant.. yet
[19:51] <newz2000> cjohnston: a typo or broken graphic in a conspicuous area of the site that many people will see
[19:51] <cjohnston> I asked the same question with the same bug
[19:52] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, oh yah you are right sorry I forgot about that :P
[19:52] <cjohnston> lol
[19:52] <newz2000> that page is quite old. It really needs to be moved ot the wiki
[19:53] <newz2000> and maintaned by the team in charge of the mirrors
[19:55] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, hey until the freeze is going on, can i triage the bugs and reject others that aren't needed
[19:55] <cjohnston> dhillon-v10 is tryin to steal my job
[19:55] <cjohnston> lol
[19:55] <cjohnston> :-P
[19:56] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, oh if you want to do it, then okay :) I'll find something else then, maybe the kubuntu website bugs :P
[19:56] <newz2000> Two can't hurt. :-)
[19:56] <cjohnston> I'm just messing with him..
[19:56] <newz2000> Can one of you see if there's a team in charge of mirrors and assign the bug to them to move the docs onto the wiki and maintain it?
[19:57] <newz2000> that hasn't been touched in at least 18 months and the person who was in charge of it has been gone from canonical over a year
[19:57] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, I think we can move the bug/assign the ubuntu-docs team to this one maybe ?
[19:57] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, :)
[19:57] <newz2000> it may not be the right team, I think there was at one time a team in charge of mirrors
[19:57] <newz2000> if so, they may be the best bet
[19:58] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, yah the Ubuntu Mirror Admins is that it
[19:58] <newz2000> I'd suspect so
[19:59] <newz2000> I've asked in #ubuntu-irc to get our bug bot back
[19:59] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mirror-admins I think we may have to talk to people over at #launchpad
[19:59] <cjohnston> i want mr. buggy!
[19:59] <cjohnston> lol
[19:59] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: there may be an irc channel for them
[20:00] <newz2000> feeling like investigating?
[20:00] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, sure :)
[20:00] <cjohnston> figure out who is on the team, what their irc nicks are and start /whois'in em
[20:00] <cjohnston> hehe
[20:00] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, yup #ubuntu-mirrors
[20:01] <newz2000> ok, I've got to knuckle down and get a few things done but if you need me, ping me or leave a message and I'll catch up in about an hour
[20:01] <newz2000> by the way, I'd call the 463849 high priority
[20:01] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, alright
[20:01] <newz2000> but it's border line because it doesn't affect a lot of people (need a very wide screen to see it)
[20:06] <cjohnston> dhillon-v10: https://forms.canonical.com/landscapetrial/thanks/   - are you able to pull up that page without filling out the forum
[20:06] <cjohnston> form
[20:07] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, what form ?? I see something like this:
[20:07] <dhillon-v10> Search this site:
[20:07] <dhillon-v10> Thank you for completing our Landscape trial registration form.
[20:07] <cjohnston> right.. is the footer layout messed up
[20:08] <cjohnston> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/504333 does it look like the attachment on this bug report?
[20:09] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, precisely, I was just about to upload the screenshot to imageshack and send it to you :)
[20:09] <cjohnston> can you confirm the bug then please
[20:09] <cjohnston> ;-)
[20:10] <cjohnston> also, if you are talking to the mirrors people, may want to point them to this one: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/162865
[20:10] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, done :) I think I should apply for bug-control for some time soon
[20:11] <cjohnston> dhillon-v10: newz2000 gave me bugcontrol access for the website project only.. so i dont have it for regular bugs
[20:11] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, ahh nice :) I have triaged a *lot* of bugs so I though I might apply
[20:12] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: I'll make you a member of the team to triage, what's your launchpad id?
[20:12] <cjohnston> are you a bugsquad member?
[20:12] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, dhillon-v10, also where do i go for kubuntu website, can you do that one too
[20:13] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, not yet all the applying thing takes effort and I am lazy :P
[20:13] <newz2000> dhillon-v10: I'd speak with ryanakca on that. I don't keep in touch w/ their processes and procedures
[20:13] <newz2000> I may be able to grant it but would prefer to get the OK from them
[20:13] <dhillon-v10> newz2000, alright I'll ask nixternal then :)
[20:16] <newz2000> ok. /join #drupal-support
[20:16] <newz2000> grr
[20:17]  * cjohnston wonders whats goin on in #drupal-support
[20:17] <cjohnston> heh
[20:17]  * newz2000 is asking for drupal help
[20:18]  * cjohnston doesnt like drupal
[20:18] <cjohnston> although i probably need to learn it.
[20:20] <newz2000> there is a good book by O'Reilly called "Using Drupal" by the lullabot team
[20:21] <newz2000> if you are a membere of a LUG or someuser group that has a relationship w/ O'Reilly you can probably get them to give you a copy for free
[20:21] <cjohnston> hmm
[20:22] <cjohnston> I doubt my loco would.. and im not a member of a lug
[20:22] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, i am currently learning drupal, from this good book, do you need it, I can send a link to you
[20:22] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, your loco might :D
[20:22] <cjohnston> sure
[20:22] <cjohnston> isnt it yours too?
[20:23] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, lol yah :)
[20:24] <cjohnston> ill ask itnet
[20:24] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, just a sec.
[20:24] <newz2000> cjohnston: your loco should apply w/ Oreilly to be an offical user group. Free stuff in exchange for reviews on amazon and etc.
[20:25] <cjohnston> hmm.. newz2000 you dont by chance have a link handy for info on that do you? I'll talk to our leader about it..
[20:25] <newz2000> in gmail everything is handy... :-)
[20:25] <cjohnston> lol
[20:26] <newz2000> http://ug.oreilly.com
[20:26] <cjohnston> maybe i just need a copy of your gmail then.. lol  if everything is handy maybe it could help me pass nursing school
[20:26] <newz2000> I don't have much in there that would help with that. :-)
[20:26] <cjohnston> :-(
[20:26] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, what's your email pm me
[20:26] <cjohnston> you said everything
[20:27] <cjohnston> chrisjohnston@ubuntu.com
[20:27] <cjohnston> if i spelled all that correct
[20:27] <cjohnston> hey.. i actually did
[20:27] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, off to eat lunch, expect an email some time soon :D
[20:27] <cjohnston> I guess we are members...
[20:28] <cjohnston> its 330 dhillon-v10 lunch is long over
[20:28] <cjohnston> lol
[20:28] <cjohnston> im killing myself with email from all this bug stuff
[20:28] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, nah i just got back from school so my lunch is now :)
[20:28] <cjohnston> lol
[20:28] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, I get over 1000 messages per day from the LKML and its hard to keep up
[20:29] <cjohnston> lkml?
[20:29] <dhillon-v10> cjohnston, Linux Kernel Mailing List, the largest mailing list in the world, that's where most of my work is in
[20:30] <cjohnston> im out
[20:30] <cjohnston> lol
[20:30] <cjohnston> i am actually gonna start unsubscribing from some stuff for the next year
[20:51] <cjohnston> newz2000: whenever you get time.. my loco leader doesnt know anything about getting stuff to review.. just about getting the discount price.. you dont by chance have any other info I could tell him do you?
[20:51] <newz2000> When you sign up for that program you'll get contacted. Just ask them if they have review copies.
[20:51] <newz2000> apress also has a program like this. I get tons of books to hand out.
[20:52] <newz2000> well, not tons, but in the last 6 months probably 10 − 12 books.
[20:53] <newz2000> the bot is back
[20:54] <cjohnston> bug 254973
[20:54] <ubot3> Malone bug 254973 in ubuntu-website "Text in "Get Ubuntu" tabs falls off when zoomed in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254973
[20:54] <cjohnston> YAY!!
[20:54] <cjohnston> lol
[21:02]  * cjohnston is gonna use my friend ubot3... newz2000 bug #255527 - we wouldnt provide an ubuntu studio md5sum on the hashes page, correct?
[21:02] <ubot3> Malone bug 255527 in ubuntu-website "WinMD5SUM wrong for Ubuntu Studio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255527
[21:06] <newz2000> cjohnston: we won't put any hashes on ubuntu.com. So few people need them and they're easily findable using the site search or google.
[21:06] <newz2000> you can reject any bugs about hashes
[21:07] <cjohnston> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  ?
[21:08] <cjohnston> expecially with the very last line
[21:18] <cjohnston> hmm.. why does http://help.ubuntu.com/community redirect to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  - or is it just me
[21:19] <cjohnston> ok.. on another system it redirects to SwapFaq
[21:19] <cjohnston> hmmmm
[21:59] <cjohnston> newz2000: fwiw, im getting to the point with the 'new' bugs, where I don't know enough on the subjects to be able to comment on them/confirm/invalid.. do you want a tag for those, or want me to just leave them as new or..?
[21:59] <newz2000> cjohnston: I'd say leave them for new
[21:59] <cjohnston> okie..
[22:00] <newz2000> after Monday I won't have much luck in closing out bugs so I/we can hammer the new ones and get them organized
[22:00] <cjohnston> cool
[22:00] <cjohnston> whats the reason for the freeze?
[22:00] <cjohnston> that doesnt make sense?
[22:00] <newz2000> we'll be moving the content to multiple servers and updating it there so any changes made to live will need to be replcated to staging and testing
[22:00] <newz2000> tedious so will be limited
[22:00] <cjohnston> i gotcha
[22:01] <cjohnston> is the wiki gonna get a newer bigger better faster server? please? please? :-P
[22:01] <newz2000> I don't think the wiki's speed is because its not on a big enough server...
[22:01] <cjohnston> BW issues, or just moin limitations
[22:01] <newz2000> I think the problem is that when you save content it has to scan all the files in the wiki to see who subscribed to each
[22:02]  * newz2000 assumes the performance prob you refer to is the slow saving
[22:02] <cjohnston> its more than just slow saving.. but yes
[22:02] <cjohnston> slow loading too
[22:02] <cjohnston> sometimes more than others.. but ya
[22:03] <newz2000> I don't have any hope that it will improve because of what the web team is working on
[22:03] <cjohnston> gotcha