dhillon-v10ryanakca_, hi, there's this one link on the website for kubuntu screenshot tour which still links to 9.04 tour, so can you point me to where I can find the source of that page and update the link, this will have to be taken care for 9.10 and lucid as well00:41
ryanakca_dhillon-v10: Do you have access to the drupal admin interface?00:43
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dhillon-v10ryanakca_, don't know should I :)00:43
Riddellryanakca: feel free to give him the details if you trust him00:44
dhillon-v10Riddell, there's a little bug, let me give you the link in a sec.00:44
* ryanakca doesn't remember talking to dhillon-v10 before, but I've seen him around... If anybody can vouch for him, I'll give him the details00:45
Riddelldhillon-v10: do we trust you?00:45
* maco snorts00:45
dhillon-v10Riddell, depends on you, I never break anyone's trust so :) i'll be responsible00:45
dhillon-v10Riddell, nixternal can00:46
Riddellwheesht maco, this is a failsafe security method00:46
dhillon-v10nixternal, ping00:46
freinhardhow do i get rid of that? "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libopensync1-dev which is a virtual package."00:46
dhillon-v10ryanakca, you can ask nixternal, I have been working with him for a while now, let me pm him00:47
ryanakcamaco: According to the Urban Dictionary: buy wheesht mugs, tshirts and magnets00:47
ryanakca(Verb, Scottish slang) Quiet.00:47
ryanakcaoops, ignore the buy blurb00:47
JontheEchidnafreinhard: that means that the package doesn't exist00:47
JontheEchidnamaybe you want libopensync-dev?00:48
crimsunthis is a new source + binary, no?00:48
dhillon-v10ryanakca, can we wait for sometime until nixternal responds00:48
freinhardno, i dont, i want libopensync1-dev, that's in my ppa00:48
macoryanakca: thanks00:48
JontheEchidnayou'd have to add the ppa to the pbuilder (sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login, then edit the sources.list)00:48
JontheEchidnathen "pbuilder update" if you don't have a hook that does pbuilder update each build00:49
freinhardJontheEchidna: i added it with --othermirror, and /etc/pbuilder/apt.config is a symlink to /etc/apt so pbuilder should use any repository my system uses?00:50
ryanakcadhillon-v10: Sure00:50
maconote that "edit the sources.list" means "make sure you know how to use echo and | to add things to sources.list00:50
JontheEchidnafreinhard: dunno, I've never tried a method like that. But one would assume that it's not working :P00:50
freinhardJontheEchidna: is there any editor in base.tgz?00:51
JontheEchidnaNot that I can recall00:51
crimsunthere should be.00:52
freinhardi can edit the files from outside00:52
dhillon-v10ryanakca, have a look here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/494214 since the website is going to get a whole new look, can we just close this one or should I leave it alone00:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 494214 in kubuntu-website "Kubuntu website is poorly designed in terms of navigation" [Undecided,New]00:52
ryanakcadhillon-v10: I would mark it in progress saying that we'll have a whole new look in the near future00:53
JontheEchidnayay, tags are working again with 4.3.9000:53
* ryanakca sighs at one of his HDs dying01:01
freinhardJontheEchidna: works, thx!01:02
JontheEchidnano prob01:03
dhillon-v10Riddell, my apologies for the delay, here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/48129401:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 481294 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu website doesn't have a single screenshot" [Undecided,Invalid]01:05
freinhardgot a file that get's installed by default to usr/etc/foo, how do i get it to be installed to etc/foo ?01:08
freinhardcan .install do some magic?01:08
dhillon-v10ryanakca, my apologies for bothering you, I know you are pretty busy, but have a look here: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kubuntu.org and this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/47292801:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 472928 in kubuntu-website "Homepage claims to be XHTML 1.0 strict but is not" [Undecided,New]01:09
ryanakcadhillon-v10: No worries. Yes, that will be fixed shortly, the fixes / front page content on http://drupal.ryanak.ca will be transfered to www.kubuntu.org01:12
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pyklerI just updated to 4.4 using the ppa and my systemray doesnt show many of the icons :s03:52
pykleris anybody else having this issue, or should i clear my 4.3 config, and if i should, how do i only clear the plasma config03:52
pyklertis any1 here03:55
pykleranyone know what happened to the desktop switcher in kde 4.403:57
pyklerits not in my applet list03:57
pykleri really like 4.4 but man i hate that i upgraded03:57
pykleris there a better channel to go to03:59
jjesseis konqueroror removed from kde4.4 ?04:00
pyklerlol, when i do help about it still says 4.3.85 (KDE 4.4 Beta 2)04:01
pykleri have konqy but i do not have an answer to ur q04:01
pyklersomeone help!!!11104:03
shtylmanneversfelde: :) thx04:08
nixternalwe got another foot of snow, and I have to drag the garbage from the back to the front, and there is anywhere between 2 and 3 feet of snow in the route :/04:42
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dhillon-v10Riddell, hey I fixed that bug, and when you go to the admin interface, you will a comment that has the link to the bug, now I going to work on some other outdated links that were there05:13
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ghostcubeehlo humans :)08:28
jussi01Riddell: I seem to have an extra "m" on planet, is this a typo?08:35
faboRiddell: I've done the tarball from svn. I guess Jos forget to release it.08:50
freeflyingRiddell: are you going to upload qt before alpha2?10:38
Riddellfreeflying: should I?10:39
Riddellwhat's needed?10:39
freeflyingRiddell: I added two patch for bold style fonts10:40
Riddellah yes, ok I can upload that10:40
freeflyingRiddell: thanks10:40
ghostcubehttp://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0356   for all of you coding outside the walls :D11:35
ulysses__Riddell: have you uploaded the debdiffs for karmic-backports?11:41
Riddellulysses__: no still working on qt and kdegames currently, but it's high on my list of many things to upload today11:42
ulysses__Can I assign bug 503070 to me, and set status in progress?11:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 503070 in kde-l10n-ptbr "kde-l10n-** 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 fails to install (tries to overwrite kimagemapeditor.mo from kde-i18n-**)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50307011:50
Riddellulysses__: sure11:50
freinhardhow can i figure out why a orig.tar.gz does not show up in the changes file?12:12
freinharddpkg-genchanges sais it doesn't add the orig archive, no idea why12:13
freinhardi did a "debuild -S"12:13
Riddellfreinhard: you need  debuild -S -sa12:14
Riddellthe -sa makes it appear, otherwise it guesses what to do and usually doesn't include it12:15
freinhardworks, thx!12:15
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seelehow many people would you estimate use chokoq?13:58
Riddellthat's a very hard thing to estimate14:02
Riddelltwitter would know how many people post from it but I doubt there's anything public14:02
Riddellyou could try looking at popcon data14:02
jussi01seele: me!14:03
Riddellyou could try asking identi.ca if they have figures, they're probably more friendly than twitter since ubuntu drives half their traffic14:03
alnot sure how accurate those numbers are, seem a little jumpy14:11
jussi01you know, the details section in kpackagekit is rather pointless... no?14:21
jussi01or is it just my macine?14:21
jussi01(I have a nice progress bar that goes from side to side when installing packages)14:22
seeleal: useful, but i was looking for a number of persons. 10 people or 1000 people is more useful than .02% for what i need to do14:26
seeleRiddell: what is popcorn?14:26
Riddellseele: package popularity stats for ubuntu14:28
Riddellcan be a bit hard to read and it's only for people who turn it on manually so it's not a great sample14:28
Riddellbut we don't have choqok on the CD so any installs there will be people who actively use it I'd expect14:29
seeleis this all-time or just for karmic?14:29
seelehmm.. gwibber is like 4x more popular14:32
Riddellthat is installed by default14:33
Riddellso lots of people will have it installed and not use it14:33
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ScottKAlso last time I looked, the ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop ratio in popcon was ~ 6:1, so if gwibber:choqok is ~4:1, that's actually pretty good.14:44
RiotingPacifisthow long will it take to package 4.4rc1 for the ppa? (like no pressure i'm just looking into an upstream bug and want to know if it's worth me waiting, either way i appreciate all the effort you guys put in)14:58
JontheEchidnaat the moment it's just me working on the karmic packages. 12 hours might be a fair estimate if it stays that way15:00
jjesseJontheEchidna: sorry you are working by yourself, that's pretty amazing then it will be ready in 12 hours15:01
RiotingPacifistJontheEchidna:  cool, 12hrs is pretty good thx15:02
JontheEchidnaoh noes, now I just gave myself a deadline :P15:03
jjessehaha no pressure from me :)15:03
Riddellulysses__: your launchpad karma is about to get a boost15:04
RiotingPacifistit's cool with any luck i'm going to be drunk in 12hrs time so will do the reporting tomorow15:04
ulysses__Riddell: due to the translations15:04
tsimpsonzegenie: it'll be ready when it's ready :)15:18
ScottKRiddell and JontheEchidna: kees said he'd accept libssh in Main if the test suite were enabled at build time.  I fiddled with it last night and couldn't seem to come up with the right CDBS magic.  Could one of you have a look?15:42
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RiddellScottK: did you get this test suite to compile?  I'm unconvinced it does16:12
RiddellSSH_OPTIONS is undeclaired16:14
ScottKRiddell: I did not.16:15
jussi01can anyone tell me a command for putting a firefox shortcut to the desktop? (ive ssh to a machine and Ive got to fix it for my inlaws...)16:51
Riddellcp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop ~/Desktop16:52
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jussi01Riddell: thank you... I probably should have known that... :D16:54
Daskreechwhere ~ is ~inlaws/Desktop16:55
jussi01Daskreech: hehe16:56
* Daskreech goes to see where Rc1 is 16:58
ScottKkde4libs built, so we are on our way ....16:59
jussi01ScottK: does that hit the beta ppa? or is there an RC ppa also?17:07
* jussi01 turns the sarcasm off...17:08
mcasdoes anyone know were jwisser is17:11
jussi01mcas: nickserv tells me that nick is not registered...17:12
ScottKRiddell: Reply in the libssh MIR bug says it's not an actual test suite.18:50
ScottKJontheEchidna and Riddell: libssh MIR approved19:12
ScottKWhich packcage(s) need update for that?19:14
JontheEchidnajust runtime19:14
macohrmph. thats silly.  any of you seen kmail sort mail into the "unknown" date when it clearly shows the date of the email right next to the subject?19:15
ScottKWe don't want to upload it until the existing ones have a chance to build as it will depwait on libssh and they'll be a build for superceded source.19:15
ScottKmaco: Yes.19:15
macoScottK: know if a bug's been filed?19:16
ScottKIt happens when stuff is still 'this week' but is also 'last month' or something.19:16
ScottKRiddell: Doesn't the attica source need promotion to Main?19:20
geniiFor the interested, Chuvalo's interview is playing right now on thatchannel19:37
geniioops, wrong chan, sorry19:37
geniiWhy doesn't npviewer.bin have a taskbar entry? Also why doesn't it auto focus, have to alt-tab to it after maximizing a video... I know, I should be bugging Adobe about it and not here, probably19:52
ScottKNCommander: Looks like Ross is hung.  Any chance you can get someone to give it a good hard kick.20:20
sistpotyRiddell: around? I think I just found a bug in kdelibs with a kubuntu patch, as ScottK pointed me to investigate the klamav build failure21:14
sheytanHI, i've got a kubuntu web page mockup. Who's the related person of kubuntu's web page? D:21:15
sistpoty(but I don't dare to upload kdelibs myself though :P)21:15
Nightrosesheytan: you want ryanakca21:16
sheytanNightrose: Ok, thanks :D Wann see it? :D21:16
Nightrosealready seen it on identi.ca ;-)21:16
Nightroselooks nice21:16
sistpotyRiddell: the problem seems to be that kubuntu_62_flash_installer.diff adds a new source file, and also a patch to reference the symbols therein21:17
sheytanGood, thanks  :D21:17
sistpotyRiddell: however no patch actually updates the Makefile.in's so that the new knsplugininstaller.cpp is actually compiled21:18
ScottKsistpoty: What's up?21:34
ScottKsistpoty: Nice.21:34
ScottKsistpoty: So drop the patch?  We certainly don't need a KDE3 flash installer anymore.21:35
sistpotyScottK: could imo work as well, or just rerun autotools after all patches are applied21:35
DarkwingDuckYay! Desktop back online21:36
geniiDarkwingDuck: kdm/hal thing fixed?21:36
sistpotyScottK: however dropping the patch entirely might be an abi breakage, in case earlier kdelibs versions did in fact provide the new symbols21:36
DarkwingDuckI just patched a computer back together21:36
DarkwingDuckgenii: Not sure, netbook went out when the kid dumped water on it21:37
sistpoty(no clue about libkhtml rdepends)21:37
geniiAaah, OK. <goes back to sudo start kdmhttp://www.cygwin.com/>21:37
geniiBleh touchpad21:37
sistpotyScottK: I believe it should be safe to drop the patch afaik, as it looks that only kdelibs itself refers to the added symbols... however that's an unsafe assumption21:38
ScottKsistpoty: I suspect that function has been broken for some time (for a variety of reasons), so I think removing it and than dealing with rdepends if they show up is the best answer.21:39
ScottKSince it's a distro specific patch, in theory no upstream would rely on it.21:39
ScottKI know none of our distro specific stuff does anymore.21:40
sistpotyScottK: whatever you think is best... I lack experience with the kde stack to come to a conclusion21:40
* ScottK will give Riddell a little bit to disgree and if he doesn't, I'll upload it.21:40
sistpoty(and if it's true that only kdelibs itself refers to the added symbols the abi breakage is imho ok to be done)21:41
RiddellScottK: hmm?21:41
ScottKRiddell: Any reason not to drop the flash installer from kdelibs?21:41
Riddellkde 3?21:42
Riddellthat can go for sure21:42
ScottKThere we go.21:42
ScottKsistpoty: Thanks for looking into it.21:43
sistpotyScottK: no problem... watch out for dpkg-shlibdeps warnings in the build log though, not that my theory is entirely wrong ;)21:43
ScottKWill do.21:43
ZoraelOnce ready, will RC1 hit the ppas for Karmic? (Just asking so I don't give bad advice out of ignorance.)22:03
Riddellit'll go in the beta PPA22:03
ZoraelGreat, thanks.22:03
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://pastebin.ca/174326022:12
JontheEchidnagive hugs to aseigo, he fixed the startup crash22:12
JontheEchidnaoh, we do seem to be adding the systray twice in the default layout patch22:12
ScottKProbably not good22:12
JontheEchidnathat's probably what was exposing the bug22:13
RiddellJontheEchidna: what was the fix?22:13
JontheEchidnakde rev 107184122:13
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1071841&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1071841 | it is possible to not be on the scene yet22:13
JontheEchidnaOh, I also discussed using scripted layouts with aseigo, seems that they're totally supported :)22:17
JontheEchidnawell, totally recommended22:17
JontheEchidnathey obviously won't support bad scripts :P22:17
QuintasanUrgh, I just need to endure this hell in school for next week and I'm free (almost).22:19
JontheEchidnalooks like we can just have a script that adds our extra applets to the layout22:20
JontheEchidnaalpha 3 is next week?22:23
ulysses__14th january22:23
ulysses__so next week, yes:P22:24
shtylmanRiddell: if kde doesn't include the new kdm theme with 4.4 should we look into doing so?22:26
Riddellshtylman: yeah can do, preferably with pinheiro's blessing22:26
shtylmank... pinheiro does like it btw22:27
Riddellshtylman: but I think it can still go into KDE, release-team probably don't have an opinion, it's up to the oxygen team22:27
shtylmanhe suggested I straighten the K, but I think I can convince him of my ways :)22:27
shtylmanahh ok... as was explained to me by pinheiro was that because it is feature freeze it can't go in now22:28
shtylmanso I emailed kde-core-devel22:28
Riddellmaybe, I don't remember the rules for art freeze22:28
shtylmanfor clarification22:28
JontheEchidnaugh, kdebase-workspace isn't finding regular libpolkit-qt22:29
JontheEchidnaeven though libpolkit-qt-dev is installed22:30
JontheEchidnaoh, karmic might need the new release come to think of it22:30
Tscheesywe wanted to release a News about digiKam at -de.org - for how long is digiKam1.0.0 available in Backports now?22:30
* JontheEchidna decides to worry about backports after dinner22:30
JontheEchidnaTscheesy: about a week22:31
* shtylman thinks this weekend I will make a screensaver similar to: http://www.ilounge.com/images/uploads/photo-flip-clock-1.jpg23:33
* JontheEchidna notes that there's a plasmoid flip clock in playground23:35
shtylmandid not know that :)23:36
shtylmanmakes me happy23:36
shtylmanI will take a look at that23:36
shtylmanit would be a cool screensaver23:36
JontheEchidnaand hey, you can have plasmoids on the screensaver23:40
_Groo_hi/2 all23:57
Riddellevening _Groo_23:58
_Groo_Riddell: hey riddell23:58
_Groo_Riddell: i confirmed that fancy plasmoid is broken with kde 4.4 rc1... well have to wait23:59
_Groo_Riddell: pitty cause im used to it :P23:59
_Groo_Riddell: ive seen you guys started uploading rc1 to lucid23:59

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