[00:24] <davidson_> Hello
[00:27] <lloowen> Hello all. I'm having problems getting the wifi on my acer extensa 5220 to connect to the internet. When I go to the network configuration GUI I can see that the wifi is working as it sees available networks. However the security settings used by my wireless router is 'wpa-psk' an option not available on the network configuration GUI. Please does anyone know how I can configure my wifi? I'm currently using another OS so as to be able to u
[00:29] <BluesKaj> lloowen, I have an extensa as well, and i use wpa2 on wicd network manager
[00:30] <BluesKaj> !wicd | lloowen
[00:30] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[00:34] <lloowen> BluesKaj: what do you mean '!info wicd'?
[00:37] <BluesKaj> exactly what it says , lloowen , download wicd and install, it will work. Make sure you remove network-manager before trying to use wicd .
[00:40] <lloowen> Thanks.
[00:47] <ilumi> whats the fix for encoding h264 with aac?
[01:07] <The_shark_001> does anyone use sleep mode?
[01:25] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Might someone point me in the direction of the chatroom for discussing nVidia cards?
[01:26] <yofel> Ertain: if it's kubuntu specific here, if you use the driver from the nvidia site #nvidia, if others: state the issue
[01:26] <Ertain> ok yofel
[01:27] <coreyB> yo Daughain  any idea how to run nautilus as root?
[01:30] <yofel> coreyB: a) why would you want to do that, b) sudo nautilus from konsole should work
[01:30] <coreyB> im tryin to install apache
[01:30] <coreyB> and im on the last instruction and it says ' PREFIX/bin/apachectl start' and i installed apache in /usr/local/apache2
[01:31] <coreyB> ok yofel  got it started :)
[01:32] <Daughain> Sorry, coreyB , Trying to learn perl scripting. =)
[01:32] <coreyB> ah
[01:32] <Daughain> AMong other things.. =)
[01:32] <coreyB> yofel,  now how do i edit files in /usr/local/bin?
[01:33] <carpii> in kde theres a system settings app where you can say files should be double clicked, rather than single clicked.
[01:33] <Daughain> Open em in kwrite or gedit?
[01:33] <carpii> how can i run this from cmdline?
[01:33] <coreyB> ah good idea Daughain
[01:34] <Daughain> coreyB:  I;ve been editing enough things recently. =)
[01:35] <Daughain> coreyB:   Is your install kubuntu, or ubuntu anyway?
[01:35] <coreyB> kubuntu
[01:35] <coreyB> i like using ubuntu commands :P
[01:35] <Daughain> lol
[01:35] <Daughain> coreyB:  I'm just not sure if gedit is in kubuntu.
[01:35] <coreyB> pst
[01:35] <coreyB> apt-get install gedit
[01:35] <carpii> anyone?  plz help :(
[01:36] <coreyB> =P
[01:36] <Daughain> lol.
[01:36] <Daughain> carpii:  No clue how to run it from command line.
[01:37] <carpii> :(
[01:37] <carpii> im running a kde app on mac, but of course ive no kde start menu
[01:37] <carpii> yet i need to tweak some kde settings
[01:37] <carpii> which is why im stuck
[01:37] <yofel> carpii: run 'systemsettings'
[01:38] <Daughain> Stick around and men=bbe someone whoknows more than me has an answer.
[01:38] <Daughain> See?
[01:38] <carpii> i tried that, but i think thats kde 4 only.
[01:38] <carpii> and i think my crap is kde 3.5x
[01:38] <yofel> oh, no idea then
[01:38]  * carpii weeps loudly
[01:38] <carpii> ok thx
[01:39] <jacob_> anyone wanna tell me why the hell my speakers aren't working
[01:39] <carpii> are you sure your ears are working?
[01:39]  * Daughain chuckles.
[01:40] <Daughain> Turn up the volume?
[01:41] <Derath-Srvr> jacob: check PCM level?
[01:41] <carpii> ok it seems on kde 3.5 the app i needed was kcontrol :)
[01:44] <tim_> my screen keeps blanking with the screensaver off and the power settings set to not blank. what's going on?
[01:45] <Fanfare> tim_: check also settings in powerdevil applet.
[01:47] <tim_> Fanfare: where can i find the powerdevil applet?
[01:55] <tim_> Fanfare: i see a "let powerdevil manage screen powersaving" in the power management, but not settings for powerdevil, can I just turn this setting off and call it good?
[01:59] <Fanfare> tim_: try to disable powerdevil if u dont use it anyways...
[02:00] <tim_> Fanfare: I guess I don't, I'll try it now. It will be a while to see if it works. Thanks.
[02:03] <JCDG> hellos friends
[02:05] <Fanfare> hi JCDG
[02:06] <JCDG> Hi Fanfare , I've got an issue with my start menu, I don't have an option to shutdown the machine, only, to hibernate, suspend, and change sessions...
[02:10] <rstob911> JCDG: are you using the live cd
[02:11] <Fanfare> JCDG: systemsettings > Advanced > loginmanager  there is a tab u can tell who is allowed to shutdown aso.
[02:13] <JCDG> rstob911, no I'm using the kububntu desktop, installed on ubuntu..., ok Fanfare I'll checkit
[02:14] <Fanfare> JCDG: are u loging in with gdm or kdm?
[02:15] <JCDG> Fanfare, with gdm, and in that tab you mentioned, it says that everyone can shutdown the machine...
[02:29] <spacitymedic> quick question... anyone able to tell me what is making my mic not work?
[02:32] <ilumi> whats the fix for encoding h264 with aac?
[02:38] <fel7pe> 123
[02:44] <Oxymis> does the cim8738 chipset work with linux?
[02:45] <Oxymis> for audio?
[02:53] <Fanfare> JCDG: that could be the reason! try switch to kdm.
[02:55] <Daughain> WHat package(s) do I need to compile C in ubuntu?
[03:03] <Daughain> Gonna be one of those days.
[03:18] <alexandernst> Just wondering what happened with 4.4 RC1. Anyone?
[03:18] <alexandernst> (according to Release Plans, is had to be out 2 days ago)
[03:20] <Scunizi> How do I restart the LPR system?
[03:21] <Scunizi> or is it LPRNG
[03:34] <ilumi> whats the fix for encoding h264 with aac?
[03:39] <ilumi> Daughain: build-essential
[03:39] <Daughain> ilumi:  Thanks, there an interface for it, or commandline only?
[03:40] <ilumi> Daughain: if you want an IDE get eclipse, but you still need the other package
[03:40] <Daughain> ilumi: IDE?
[03:41] <ilumi> Daughain:  Integrated development environment
[03:42] <Daughain> ilumi:  OK, I dont know anything about coding, just trying to get an add-on for xchat compiled.......So, what is the best way for someone like me to acheive this.
[03:43] <ilumi> Daughain: to compile get the build-essential,
[03:44] <Daughain> OK, I did that. how do I use it?
[03:44] <ilumi> Daughain: and read what you need to compile in the readme file
[03:44] <ilumi> usually just make to build and make install to install
[03:45] <Daughain> OK,  did that. Not sure what I am supposed to do with the command line. Use it in term and cd to the dir the file is in?
[03:45] <ilumi> yeah cd to the dir where the files are
[03:45] <ilumi> then make,
[03:46] <ilumi> there should ber a readme to tell you what you need and how to do it
[03:47] <Daughain> The readme does *not* appear to be written for newbs like me. Every time I have tried the command it gives me, I get a list of errors, and no compiled anything.
[03:47] <ilumi> because you need to install additional packages before you can build
[03:47] <Daughain> Here's the command I was given;  gcc -Wall -O1 -shared oper.c -o oper.so
[03:47] <Daughain> Mebbe you can tell me what else I need to compile it?
[03:48] <ilumi> the list of reuqired packages (libs) should be there
[03:48] <Daughain> Nope.......All it says is that it wil compile and run in 'linux'.
[03:49] <Daughain> Only reqs given are for xchat 2.x or newer. =(
[03:49] <ilumi> post hte readme to pastebin
[03:49] <Daughain> OK.
[03:50] <Daughain> http://pastebin.ca/1742283
[03:52] <Scunizi> Is there a different sane front end for kde besides xsane?
[03:54] <ilumi> Daughain: this is the command you need to run
[03:54] <ilumi> gcc -Wall -O1 -shared oper.c -o oper.so
[03:54] <ilumi> Daughain: from the directory where the files are
[03:55] <Daughain> Yup.  And when I run it I geta collection of errors, and no compile.
[03:55] <ilumi> pastebin
[03:55] <Daughain> Gimme a min......
[04:00] <Daughain> http://pastebin.ca/1742292
[04:04] <ilumi> Daughain: well all i can tell you is to try what is says, to recompile using the -fPIC option
[04:05] <Daughain> Ummmm......Did I mnetion how much of a newb I am??  Where do I put those modifiers?
[04:06] <ilumi> Daughain: try gcc -fPIC -Wall -O1 -shared oper.c -o oper.so
[04:07] <Daughain> Ok. =)
[04:07] <pykler> I upgraded to kde4.4 and i lost the desktop swwitcher, i had to manually ad plasma widgets that the thing said wer running but i couldnt see them and the sys tray doesnt show all the apps, and turning off autohide doesnt help
[04:08] <Daughain> I dont understand why it gives those undefineds, though, I checked the orig, and they are both defined, granted, as variables...
[04:08] <Daughain> OK, if compiled, it should be in the same folder, riught?
[04:08] <ilumi> Daughain: yeah
[04:08] <Daughain> Cool. =) That time it worked. =)
[04:09] <Daughain> Thanks, I spent an hour or more messing with it and getting nowhere.
[04:09] <ilumi> np
[04:09] <Daughain> NOw to see if it fails to load like everything else has. =)
[04:11] <Daughain> OK......That worked....Woohoo....
[04:11] <ilumi> what plugin is it?
[04:11] <Daughain> The opnly thing that loads is in C.
[04:12] <Daughain> An Operplugin
[04:12] <ilumi> i like xchat,
[04:12] <Daughain> None of the damn perl script I found would load.
[04:12] <ilumi> quassel kinda sucks
[04:12] <Daughain> I'm moving from mirc......And, I;ve been scropting that for years, so, stock clients are of no use to me...
[04:13] <Daughain> So need to learn perl or python or something...
[04:13] <Daughain> But, I cant even find a loadable script to see how it works yet.
[04:13] <Daughain> Half the shit on xchat.org are dead links.
[04:14] <ilumi> yeah, i guess the wizards use something else
[04:14] <ilumi> probably some command line irc clients
[04:14]  * Daughain shakes his head..
[04:14] <Daughain> I have no clue....
[04:15] <Daughain> I can learn it if I have something to tinker with, but, until I find my example, I'm stuck.
[04:15]  * Daughain is a mechanic by trade.
[04:16] <ilumi> examples of what?
[04:16] <ilumi> scripts?
[04:16] <Daughain> perl or python scripting.
[04:16] <Daughain> Trying to code in C is beyond me.
[04:16] <ilumi> there is a good tutorial on reddit, look up carlh
[04:17] <ilumi> but it's a lot of learning
[04:17] <Daughain> That will just bore me, and I wont learn......A bunch of scripts that I can dig through and edit and see what they do, that way I learn.
[04:18] <ilumi> you can just google for scripts
[04:19] <Daughain> Mebbe.....
[04:23] <jacob_> Daughain: Say little Johnny wanted to go on a mission
[04:24] <jacob_> Daughain: Say little Johnnies mission was to do this
[04:24] <jacob_> Make the KDE an EXACT replica of GNOME
[04:27] <nixternal> Daughain: if you can, a good book is "Python for Unix and Linux System Administration"
[04:27] <nixternal> I even think there is a website, probably O'reilly since it is their book, that has the scripts and what not to tinker with
[04:27] <nixternal> also check out Dive Into Python, it is a PDF and a good bit of info
[04:28] <Daughain> What is the differewnce tween perl and python?
[04:29] <nixternal> a lot :)  python is a bit more high level which is easier to learn that perl...
[04:30] <nixternal> if you have the patience and a high pain tolerance, go for perl...python is seriously really easy to learn, and you could be darn near an expert in a week with it, perl on the other hand is like drinking a gallon of moonshine and then trying to configure emacs perfectly
[04:30]  * Daughain nods..
[04:33] <Daughain> Which is closer to this: http://pastebin.ca/636198
[04:34] <Daughain> Thats not minem but an example of what I am used to writing.
[04:36] <nixternal> is that what I think it is? an antique mIRC script?
[04:36] <ilumi> i think c might be easier lol
[04:36] <Daughain> nixternal:  :P YTes, it is.
[04:36] <nixternal> mIRC scripts are close to shell scripts actually
[04:36] <Daughain> WHats a shell script?
[04:37] <nixternal> bash scripts, shell scripts...all the same....scripting you would do in your terminal with a bunch of shell commands
[04:37]  * Daughain is a mechanic.
[04:38] <ilumi> cars?
[04:38] <Daughain> Cars, semis and hi perf.
[04:38] <nixternal> http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/  <- good shell guide including scripting
[04:39] <Daughain> OK, lets try it this way. I dont evenknow enough to know what questions I should be asking in the first place hgere.
[04:39] <nixternal> that's why you are here :)  obviously you know enough to get yourself started
[04:39] <Daughain> I learned mirc scripting over the years by doing it,.
[04:39] <Daughain> nixternal: Actually, I dont, or I wouldnt be so fruystrated here....I dont know how or what to ask.
[04:40] <nixternal> right, and that is pretty much the same way you can learning shell scripting which is great for tinkering with your Linux box, python scripting, perl scripting, and so on
[04:40] <nixternal> you have to be patient, or yes, you will get frustrated easily
[04:40] <nixternal> what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:40] <Daughain> nixternal: Actually, I dont, or I wouldnt be so fruystrated here....I dont know how or what to ask.?
[04:40] <Daughain> Dammit, I hate that button.
[04:41] <nixternal> lol
[04:41] <nixternal> was going to say, that looked a bit familiar
[04:41]  * Daughain grins.
[04:41] <Daughain> That and csps lock, neeed to remove both those buttons... =)
[04:41] <nixternal> hehe
[04:42] <Daughain> OK, I do mirc scriopting, what languyage is closest to that?
[04:42] <JCDG> hello Daughain
[04:42] <Daughain> Heya, JCDG
[04:43] <nixternal> shell scripting looks fairly similar, but mIRC scripting is just for mIRC, shell scripting you would do in the Linux shell.... all it is, is taking a bunch of linux command line command, stringing them together, for whatever outcome you wnat
[04:43] <JCDG> How's everything Daughain? I come back with a new issue lol
[04:43] <Daughain> LOL, dont we all?? =-)
[04:45] <JCDG>  I've got an issue with my start menu Daughain , I don't have an option to shutdown the machine, only, to hibernate, suspend, and change sessio
[04:45] <Daughain> nixternal:  You mentioned earlier that python is a high level language, as opposed to perl being low level, mirc scripting (while being exclusive to mirc) is written like a high level language. Is python similar to it?
[04:45] <Daughain> JCDG:  As far as I know, in kde environ, there is no shutdown opition, unbkless you write an edit for one. And, if ya do, please let me have a copy., =)
[04:46] <nixternal> similar in easyness, yes...similar in functionality maybe a tad bit, but very different with syntax
[04:46] <JCDG> Daughain, so I can never shutdown my machine???...isn't that weird???...
[04:47] <ilumi> what? kde doesnt have shutdown?
[04:47] <Daughain> No, logout then choose shutdown from the power button icon on the bottom right of the screen.
[04:47] <nixternal> ilumi: alt+f2 then type shutdown :)
[04:47] <nixternal> or it is in the menu
[04:47] <ilumi> i have it in the munu
[04:47] <Daughain> No shutdown in the menu. =(
[04:47] <ilumi> menu
[04:47] <Daughain> You using kubuntu, ilumi?
[04:47] <nixternal> it should be under Leave in the menu
[04:47] <ilumi> yeah
[04:48] <nixternal> the bottom button
[04:48] <ilumi> k leave shutdown
[04:48] <nixternal> OK, I have to go out and make one more pass at this snow...when will it stop snowing in Chicago!!!
[04:48] <Daughain> Not all of us are using kubuntu. I'm sing ubuntu with kde installed afterwards.
[04:48] <Daughain> nixternal:  Send some down here, I wanna see these people in the snow. =)
[04:48] <ilumi> ah, prob something messed up
[04:49] <JCDG> Yeah It should be there...is it a desing flaw in Kde??? or is a "feautere"?
[04:49] <Daughain> Dunno.....I do know that I'm not the only one with this issue. =)
[04:49] <Daughain> I logout and use the power button icon on the bottom right corner of the change user screen to shut down.
[04:50] <JCDG> feature I meant...
[04:50] <Daughain> JCDG:  Dunno, may be as ilumi  said, somethng messed up, or a minor bug.
[04:51] <JCDG> I found an answer but it is by moidifing the gdm and replacing it with the kdm
[04:51] <Daughain> That makes sense....
[04:52] <JCDG> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:52] <JCDG> I have to study more about them, so I can understand why this is the fix...
[04:53] <Daughain> gdm would be the gnome desktop manager.
[04:54] <JCDG> So the DM manages even the shutdown option?
[04:54] <Daughain> I expect something was incomplete on install, so, kdm doesnt fully implement over gdm...
[04:54] <Daughain> Its is an option via the desktop, so yes.
[04:55] <JCDG> In the installation of kubuntu-desktop it asked me if i wanted to use kdm or gdm, but i chose gdm
[04:56] <JCDG> I did not know that I was going to have some issues like this one...:(
[04:56] <Daughain> That might be it.....gdm doesnt integrate with kde very well....My guess of course. May very well be a bug.
[04:57] <JCDG> So, should I report it to launchpad?
[04:57] <ilumi> why not just install kubuntu? unless you feel like messing around
[04:57] <Daughain> Because I already had ubuntu installed?
[04:57] <JCDG> Uhmmm I should do a backup of my 160GB of information, and then do the installation...
[04:58] <JCDG> and, I don't know, I think is better and faster to install the kubuntu desktop..
[04:59] <Daughain> And, the idea of learning while I grow my system is appealing. :P
[04:59] <JCDG> they should integrate in a veeery good way...
[04:59] <Daughain> Some days I hate being in help channels...
[04:59] <JCDG> Daughain, why so???...
[05:00] <Daughain> I soooooooo wanna scream 'dumb btch' right now...
[05:00] <JCDG> LOL...
[05:00] <Daughain> JCDG:  I op in a help chan on another server...O got some moron in there right now who doesnt een know what a file extension is.
[05:00] <ilumi> JCDG: you dont have to backup, you can reuse home partition
[05:01] <JCDG> ilumi, how Can I do That?....
[05:01] <JCDG> Daughain, just take a deep breath and count to 100000...
[05:01] <ilumi> JCDG: when you reinstall just assing /home to the same partition and DO NOT FORMAT
[05:02] <Daughain> JCDG:  I have been...
[05:02]  * Daughain grins.
[05:03] <ilumi> JCDG: also keep the same file system, but yeah, you should test it, you dont want to loose 100gigs of data
[05:04] <ilumi> lose
[05:04]  * Daughain did that last week. =)
[05:04] <JCDG> ilumi, hehehe yeah I should do a backup first...
[05:05] <JCDG> Daughain, and what happened???..
[05:05] <Daughain> I'm out about 100 movies. =)(
[05:06] <JCDG> Sheet!!!...That's a lot...
[05:07] <Daughain> JCDG: Tell me about it. )
[05:08] <Daughain> For some reASON WHEN i COPIED THEM BACK TO THE hd, they got moved  instead...I thought I still ad them backed up, so I went ahead with another reinstall.
[05:08] <Daughain> Oops. =)
[05:08] <Daughain> And some of them were dan ard to find in the first place. =(
[05:09] <JCDG> Uoops man!!! So sorry!!! like Begotten??? ehehehe...and BTW I can install gnome in Kubuntu like I did with kubuntu desktop on ubuntu?
[05:10] <Planetary> soo my sda is all windows and my sdb is mosly ubuntu it has a boot, / , /home , swap partions on it. when i boot from the ubuntu drive it says no operatings system found, but when i boot from the windows drive i get grub and can boot ubuntu. why is that and is that bad???
[05:10] <Daughain> NO, like 'Worlds Fastest Indian',
[05:10] <Daughain> And a few russian  and asian titles.
[05:11] <Daughain> DOnt ask what they were, I dont even have the fonts to spell em, if I remembered them. =)
[05:11] <JCDG> Planetary, the grub could somehow be installed on the windows partition???...
[05:12] <JCDG> Daughain, I've never ever heard of that movie...
[05:12] <faileas> JCDG: sure. that's what chainloading does
[05:13] <Daughain> JCDG:  I could prolly make a list of ones ya havent heard of. =)
[05:13] <Planetary> JCDG, i have no idea how it got there. i just installed ubuntu. is this going to be a problem? it annoys me I feel that somthing is wrong
[05:14] <ilumi> Planetary: yeah, grub installed on the sda
[05:14] <ilumi> Planetary: doesn't matter as long as it works,
[05:15] <JCDG> Daughain, do a list and send it to me...It would be good to see a few of them man...
[05:16] <Daughain> HOrror? And do they have to be american?
[05:16] <Planetary> ilumi: in terminal it says grub command not found
[05:17] <Daughain> JCDG: I have about 4 or 5 regions worth of movies, mostly horror, norror/comedy, and SF.
[05:17] <Daughain> JCDG:  So, if subtitles are bad, let me know. =)
[05:17] <JCDG> hehe for sure man...
[05:17] <ilumi> Planetary: grub is not a command
[05:17] <JCDG> Is there a shortcut on the keyboard to show the hidden files??
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[05:18] <ilumi> Planetary: dont worry about it
[05:18] <Planetary> ilumi: i mean its not installed
[05:18] <Daughain> For dolphin./
[05:18] <ilumi> Planetary: it's fine, do locate grub
[05:18] <Daughain> I forget the one for nautilus.
[05:19] <titan_ark> Hey everyone, I am facing trouble with the wubi installer. Unable to get the 64 bit version installed no matter what!
[05:19] <Daughain> Do you have an x64 chip?
[05:19] <titan_ark> yup
[05:19] <JCDG> Thanks, I was used to crtl+h on gnome
[05:19] <Planetary> ilumi: ok a bunch of stuff came up
[05:19] <titan_ark> running an Intel C2D T6550
[05:19] <titan_ark> and Win 7 home premium 64 bit on it
[05:19] <Daughain> You sure? Some of the hyperthreading P4's read as dual cores, but are still only 32 bit
[05:20] <Daughain> OK.....
[05:20] <ilumi> Planetary: if you can boot, means everything is ok
[05:20] <Planetary> ilumi: ok thanks. just seems a bit odd
[05:21] <Daughain> JCDG:  Remind me about that list when I am done with this moron.
[05:21] <ilumi> Planetary: not really, it took over the windows loader, or whatever it's called, you can choose windows or linux when you boot right?
[05:22] <Planetary> indeed
[05:23] <JCDG> Daughain, sure man...I hope I'm still here, 'cause my clock indicates 12:52am...LOL
[05:23] <Daughain> I have the same clock, JCDG ... =)   I'm'a gonna slap this stupid twat!!!!!
[05:23] <Daughain> Sorry.
[05:23] <JCDG> Daughain, man are you in LatinAmerica?
[05:24] <Daughain> JCDG:  USA, flip side. =)
[05:25] <titan_ark> I though mounting an image of the amd64 and trying the wubi from it would help, but it again starts DLing the i386 torrent else it gave me an error the 2nd time I tried.
[05:25] <titan_ark> :(
[05:25] <JCDG> hehehe...far away...:)..
[05:25] <Daughain> Same time, different place. =)
[05:25]  * Daughain chuckles.
[05:25] <JCDG> Yeah...:)
[05:26] <supermagnum> http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=131
[05:27] <Daughain> Wubi, thats the wierd windows+Linux instal thing, right?
[05:27] <Daughain> What windows ver are you using?
[05:28] <titan_ark> Win 7 Premium
[05:28] <Daughain> X86 or X64?
[05:28] <titan_ark> X64
[05:28] <Daughain> Hmmmm.......Wonder if this might be a new bug.
[05:28] <titan_ark> i am sure
[05:29] <Daughain> OK, how you doing the wubi? via dl? or cd?
[05:30] <titan_ark> first tried Dling wubi and then mounted  iso on a virtual driveand tried its wubi
[05:30] <d7gonzo> Hey everybody!
[05:31] <titan_ark> could i post the log file somewhere, if you wouldn minf looking at it?
[05:31] <titan_ark> *mind
[05:31] <Daughain> pastebin.ca is our freind here, titan_ark
[05:32] <Daughain> Just post the link when ya get it ul'd.
[05:32] <titan_ark> Daughain, http://paste.ubuntu.com/353299/
[05:33] <Daughain> Gimmea few while it loads.
[05:34] <titan_ark> Sure, thx a bunch
[05:34] <ilumi> d7gonzo: hey
[05:35] <d7gonzo> ilumi: how goes? i've never been here before. installed kubuntu a couple months ago on a laptop, and i'm lovin it. Came across Quassel and decided to give it a shot.
[05:36] <d7gonzo> i have used irc before though...many moons ago
[05:37] <Daughain> titan_ark:   How many of those drives are virtual?
[05:37] <d7gonzo> anybody have any hints about openning .daa files?
[05:38] <titan_ark> only 1 virtual drive and 1 iso on my system
[05:38] <titan_ark> I just made a clean install of win 7 feew hours back
[05:38] <Daughain> clean, as in full reformat?
[05:39] <titan_ark> yeah
[05:40] <Daughain> And drives G and H are virtual?
[05:41] <titan_ark> i was facing this trouble b4 and had quite a few isos so thought something is awry as I screwed up experimenting with virtual box and a few distros of ubuntu fedora and OS X so i made a clean install again.
[05:41] <titan_ark> G is physical, H is virtual
[05:41] <Daughain> LOL
[05:41] <Daughain> Ok....Well, considering the list, I had to ask, y'know? =)
[05:41] <Daughain> And the iso is mounted on H:?
[05:42] <titan_ark> Yeah.
[05:42] <titan_ark> haha
[05:42] <titan_ark> reading the log drives me crazy
[05:42] <Daughain> Look at lines 158 - 177
[05:43] <ilumi> d7gonzo: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
[05:43] <titan_ark> Yeah, I did see that
[05:43] <titan_ark> so something wrong with the image?
[05:43] <titan_ark> I DLed it thrice now!
[05:44] <Daughain> Either the image or the virtual drive........I used to use Alcohol 120%, you happen to have a copy?
[05:45] <titan_ark> using Daemon tools. Cant afford a paid version of Alcohol :P
[05:45] <Daughain> OK, I never heard anything bad about Daemon either....
[05:46] <titan_ark> Okay, so Il DL the trial alcohol and try again
[05:49] <Daughain> I know ya dont wanna hear this, but, ya might wanna dl the iso from another repo....Its looping trying to install, but keeps not finding the iso.....
[05:50] <Daughain> And, I did a wubi on XP a while back using alcohol, so I know it will install that way.
[05:50] <titan_ark> Okay that is possible. I DLed it both the times from the UCSB location.
[05:51] <Daughain> Save the alcohol dl for now..
[05:51] <Daughain> daemon tools is just as good.
[05:51] <titan_ark> Ah, just installed :P
[05:52] <Daughain> LOL
[05:53] <d7gonzo> ilumi: thanx!
[05:53] <titan_ark> gah when I have mounted the disk why in the world is it DLing the i386 again!
[05:53] <ilumi> d7gonzo: np
[05:53] <titan_ark> :x
[05:54] <Daughain> Errrrrr.......
[05:54] <titan_ark> Would a Jap repo be good?
[05:54] <titan_ark> Tired of doing this now :(
[05:55] <Daughain> No clue......I use US edu repos.
[05:55] <lordganesh> how to start internet using mobile in kubuntu
[05:55] <titan_ark> hmm same here
[05:55] <Daughain> lordganesh:   Buy a lot of ram?????
[05:59] <Daughain> Thought ya just said it was installing, titan_ark
[05:59] <faileas> lordganesh: you might want to be a bit more specific
[05:59] <faileas> what kinda mobile connection, what adaptor?
[06:00] <titan_ark> sick speeds x( will try torrent
[06:01] <d7gonzo> ilumi: perfect! thanks again. i was looking for a converter, but ended up trying to get acetone going, but it turned out to be a bit of a pain
[06:04]  * darkdelusions kicks Daughain
[06:05]  * Daughain bitchslaps darkdelusions 
[06:05] <Daughain> Sup, man.
[06:05] <darkdelusions> Nada
[06:05] <Daughain> Wish it were so here.....
[06:05] <darkdelusions> let move over to the off topic
[06:05] <Daughain> babying the computer lliterate through installing mirc.
[06:05] <Daughain> Illiterate, even.
[06:32] <titan_ark_> .
[06:37] <titan_ark_> Damn it, another image through torrents and the same problem :(
[06:38] <Daughain> OK, not the image then.
[06:38] <Daughain> Fresh install of daemon tools?
[06:39] <Daughain> Of course......
[06:39] <Daughain> Clean copy of deamon?
[06:39] <titan_ark_> Yeah
[06:39] <titan_ark_> Clean copy?
[06:40] <titan_ark_> Even if I DL the wubi installer and install I am facing the same problem
[06:40] <Daughain> As in no problems or issues with the install?
[06:40] <titan_ark_> I wonder what is wrong.
[06:40] <Daughain> The log show the same problem?
[06:40] <titan_ark_> Well, same thing happened even with alcohol.
[06:40] <titan_ark_> Okay.
[06:41] <titan_ark_> Holy crap, my stove is smoking.
[06:41] <Daughain> Ummm...
[06:41] <Daughain> Run?
[06:41] <titan_ark_> be back in a while
[06:41]  * Daughain nods.
[06:45] <titan_ark_> Damn
[06:45] <Daughain> ???
[06:45] <Daughain> Still have a stove?
[06:45] <titan_ark_> No OS no dinner :|
[06:45] <titan_ark_> Yeah
[06:45] <Daughain> Eeeeww..
[06:45] <titan_ark_> :D
[06:46] <Daughain> Least ya have a stove? =)
[06:46] <titan_ark_> lol yeah
[06:46] <Daughain> Why not just part the hd and install a true dual boot?
[06:47] <titan_ark_> I did that in Nov, but I dont get all drivers for my notebook.
[06:47] <Daughain> Which os?
[06:47] <titan_ark_> Ubuntu Karmic
[06:48] <titan_ark_> This is the latest log:
[06:48] <Daughain> What notebook?? 9.10 on my gateway had no issues..
[06:48] <titan_ark_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/353322/
[06:48] <titan_ark_> Ah, its an HP dv4t 1400 CTO
[06:48] <titan_ark_> I end up without audio, and wireless drivers keep giving up and I need to re package em
[06:49] <Daughain> This may take a min, I just shut down firefox. =)
[06:49] <titan_ark_> lol okay
[06:49] <titan_ark_> I need to do something for chow too :P
[06:49] <Daughain> Trying to figger out what is eating my ram.
[06:50] <titan_ark_> k
[06:50] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_:  are you still trying to install deamon tools?
[06:50] <darkdelusions> or what was the paste bin for
[06:51] <darkdelusions> Daughain: what is titan trying to do
[06:51] <titan_ark_> unable to get wubi to install the amd64 on my notebook. Tried DLing wubi and also by mounting the image and running wubi.
[06:52] <Daughain> Trying to figure out why his wubi install keeps failing.
[06:52] <titan_ark_> time after time it starts DLing the i386
[06:53] <Daughain> And, according to the log, it looks like it loops onto tryng to fnd the installer file.
[06:56] <Daughain> I'll stick with my all black. =)
[06:58] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_: are you running it under administrator
[06:58] <darkdelusions> or as administrator
[06:59] <darkdelusions> UAC might be killing it
[06:59] <titan_ark_> well i have just 1 log in
[06:59] <darkdelusions> go into the install
[06:59] <titan_ark_> i guess it should be as admin
[06:59] <darkdelusions> right click on wubi
[06:59] <darkdelusions> and select run as administrator
[06:59] <titan_ark_> ok
[07:00] <Daughain> Shit, i forgot about that in windows...
[07:00] <darkdelusions> I am going out ona limb there but its worth a try
[07:00] <darkdelusions> I disable it
[07:00] <darkdelusions> as soon as I install windows
[07:01] <titan_ark_> wat abt compatability with win 7?
[07:01] <titan_ark_> i am running it as vista compatible
[07:03] <titan_ark_> same sh** again
[07:05] <titan_ark_> log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/353330/
[07:08] <titan_ark_> I had even tried putting the ISO in the same location as the wubi i DLed and then ran it, but still it starts DLing the i386 iso
[07:09] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_: This one I am stumped on cause i have never tired to use wubi
[07:10] <darkdelusions> and google is comming up fail
[07:10] <titan_ark_> yeah
[07:11] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_: are u trying to get the 32 or 64 bit version?
[07:11] <titan_ark_> tried googling it a lot until I ended up using virtual box
[07:11] <Daughain> I'm out of ideas too.......
[07:11] <titan_ark_> I am trying the 64 bit version
[07:11] <Daughain> The one time I used wubi, it ran no issues, though, I was on an x86 system...
[07:12] <darkdelusions> are you using vista
[07:12] <titan_ark_> Nope, WIn 7
[07:12] <Daughain> He has 7, I was on XP.
[07:12] <titan_ark_> *Win 7
[07:12] <Daughain> I'm wondering if that is the issue....
[07:12] <darkdelusions> You said you where running it under compatibity mode right?
[07:12] <titan_ark_> Yeah
[07:13] <darkdelusions> did it do the same thing when you tired to run it under 7 as well
[07:13] <titan_ark_> I ran it as Vista compatible cos I read somewhere that wubi is unstable on 7
[07:13] <titan_ark_> Yes, same
[07:13]  * darkdelusions kicks Daughain agian
[07:14] <darkdelusions> ... hum
[07:16] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_:  I am still Consulting god on this one give me a few minutes
[07:17] <darkdelusions> err google :)
[07:17] <Daughain> Same thing. =)
[07:17] <titan_ark_> Trying again, without compatibility.
[07:17] <titan_ark_> :D okay
[07:17] <titan_ark_> thx
[07:17] <darkdelusions> Did you down the 32 or 64 version of the cd image?
[07:18] <titan_ark_> 64
[07:18] <darkdelusions> and your using wubi off the autorun right?
[07:19] <titan_ark_> Tried off the autorun and also after opening the image and then running it
[07:19] <noaXess> good morning..
[07:20] <noaXess> is it possible to start two different folders in dophin's split modus?
[07:23] <darkdelusions> noaXess: you mean by default
[07:23] <darkdelusions> or
[07:24] <darkdelusions> do you man can you navagate to another folder in split screen mode?
[07:24] <titan_ark_> Okay, now I tried putting the iso in partition D, and ran the wubi from there and get an error: "Coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found"
[07:24] <titan_ark_> And I see this in the log:
[07:24] <titan_ark_> 01-07 23:21 ERROR  CommonBackend: Invalid md5 for ISO D:\kubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso (18ecb71bff567ce7a91443720a86473e != 5a996e0d794e35509d0275d411a3e737)
[07:24] <titan_ark_> None
[07:25] <titan_ark_> 01-07 23:21 DEBUG  TaskList: ### Finished check_iso
[07:25] <titan_ark_> 01-07 23:21 ERROR  TaskList: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found
[07:25] <FloodBotK1> titan_ark_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <titan_ark_> oops!
[07:25]  * Daughain chuckles..
[07:26] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_:  did you get the image off kubuntu or ubuntu's site?
[07:26] <Daughain> Whats the md5checksum show?
[07:26] <titan_ark_> I have tried the Kubuntu site and also visa torrents
[07:26] <titan_ark_> this is the one I got thro torrent
[07:27] <darkdelusions> go to the offical site
[07:27] <titan_ark_> Daughain, its a huge file, and pardon my noobness, how do I figure it out
[07:27] <darkdelusions> :)
[07:27] <Daughain> DUnno, I honeslty never looked at one before... =)
[07:28] <Daughain> pastebin and lets take a look? =)
[07:28] <titan_ark_> darkdelusions, I did try one from the Kubuntu site first
[07:28] <titan_ark_> Daughain, sure
[07:29] <titan_ark_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/353336/
[07:29] <titan_ark_> this os the md5 file in the iso
[07:30]  * Daughain bitchslaps darkdelusions  a few times...
[07:30] <Daughain> I'm beginning to thin the issue isnt in the iso.....
[07:30] <darkdelusions> I am reading the launch pad on the check sum error
[07:31] <titan_ark_> DLing the iso again from another location off the Kubuntu site
[07:33] <Daughain> Check lines 27 and 28 on the md5, titan_ark_
[07:33] <darkdelusions> for the check some erro try this
[07:33] <darkdelusions> http://pastebin.ca/1742431
[07:34] <darkdelusions> or
[07:34] <darkdelusions> go https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/465936 and try the 168 version of wubi
[07:35] <titan_ark_> Daughain, okay.
[07:35] <darkdelusions> or get the latest wubu installer from http://wubi-installer.org/
[07:35] <darkdelusions> agian I am shooting in the dark here
[07:35] <Daughain> That was what I just found int he md5......./install/mt86plus
[07:35] <titan_ark_> darkdelusions, I have tried the latest from the site it starts DLing the i386 everytime no matter what
[07:36] <Daughain> Default install seems to be x86, not x64
[07:36] <Daughain> Theworkaround darkdelusions  found may be your key, titan_ark_
[07:37] <darkdelusions> Ya
[07:37] <darkdelusions> odd
[07:37] <titan_ark_> Yeah reading, both :)
[07:37] <darkdelusions> the wubi installer
[07:37] <darkdelusions> doesnt let you select which version of you want
[07:38] <darkdelusions> like 64 or x86
[07:38] <titan_ark_> No it doesnt
[07:38]  * Daughain nods.
[07:38] <darkdelusions> I am confused by that
[07:38] <Daughain> Lines 27 and 28..
[07:39] <titan_ark_> it does the 64 if you have a 64 bit processor and OS and if you want the x86 one should have the i386 iso in the same location.
[07:39] <darkdelusions> titan_ark_: I mean do you have more then 3 gigs of ram?
[07:39] <titan_ark_> Daughain, saw that they are totally different from the log file
[07:39] <titan_ark_> darkdelusions, yes, I have 4
[07:40] <Daughain> The md5 tels you what is loaded on the instaler package you are using.
[07:40] <titan_ark_> *4GB
[07:40] <Daughain> Least, thats my understanding, and this seems to bear that out.
[07:40] <titan_ark_> hmmm
[07:40] <Daughain> Tells you if your instaler is corrupt.
[07:41] <Daughain> It may default to i386 because a lot of people dont even know what kind of processor they have.
[07:41] <darkdelusions> I has an idea :)
[07:41] <Daughain> You do??
[07:41]  * Daughain runs and hides.
[07:42] <darkdelusions> It looks like there is a --32bit flag for the wubi installer
[07:42] <darkdelusions> I bet you there is a --64bit
[07:42] <titan_ark_> :-o
[07:42] <titan_ark_> n00b here :P
[07:42] <darkdelusions> go to dos
[07:42] <faileas> lol
[07:42] <darkdelusions> navigate to where the wubi installer is hidden :)
[07:43] <Daughain> darkdelusions:   Thats what the workaround ya found says. :P =)
[07:43] <faileas> its called command prompt. dos is mostly dead ;)
[07:43] <darkdelusions> faileas: meh :)
[07:43] <darkdelusions> faileas: is still dos in my book :)
[07:43] <darkdelusions> rofl
[07:43] <titan_ark_> brb
[07:43] <faileas> more precisely cmd.exe ;)
[07:43] <Daughain> Cept for the guy in here the other day wanting to create a bootable dos thumbdrive.
[07:43] <faileas> you could use run as well though
[07:43] <faileas> er.. that's easy
[07:44] <faileas> get the HP  disk tool. its what a lot of people prepping for a liveusb do
[07:44] <darkdelusions> faileas: I am a command line person :)
[07:44] <faileas> lol
[07:44] <faileas> some things an't as usable on cli ;p
[07:45] <darkdelusions> I use unetbootin to create my live usb :)
[07:45] <faileas> most newer drives are bootable
[07:45] <faileas> some older ones needed to be formatted a certain way to be
[07:46]  * Daughain goes for some food.
[07:46] <darkdelusions> I think i am gonna go stand outside in my wonderful 4 degree weather
[07:46] <darkdelusions> ....
[07:48] <harmagent> darkdelusions: I'm comming to where you are... because it's -10F here
[07:49] <harmagent> wind chill is -33
[07:49] <Daughain> I miss those days.
[07:50] <Daughain> 18 here.
[07:50] <harmagent> makes me glad I work from home :)
[07:50] <Daughain> lol
[07:50] <Daughain> I'm wokring on getting there.
[07:51] <darkdelusions> harmagent: I am a florida boy this below freezing for 3 days is gonna kill me :)
[07:52] <darkdelusions> The wind thou is the only thing that kills me
[07:52] <Daughain> Damn, Tn is warmer than Fl??
[07:52] <harmagent> hahah... yeah I'll bet
[07:52] <darkdelusions> Daughain: na i am in texas
[07:52] <darkdelusions> now
[07:52] <Daughain> Where in Tx, darkdelusions ?
[07:53] <Daughain> I just moved from the Dallas area.
[07:53] <darkdelusions> Frisco
[07:53] <harmagent> I would love to visit FL again... Id be in a t-shirt running around yelling "woohoo!! it's above 0!!!"
[07:53] <darkdelusions> North Dallas
[07:53] <Daughain> harmagent:  LOL
[07:53] <harmagent> tip: dont ever move to south dakota LOL
[07:53]  * Daughain nods to darkdelusions 
[07:53] <Daughain> You get fios.....
[07:54] <darkdelusions> No I am in an evil apartment
[07:54] <darkdelusions> and I am stuck with TWC
[07:54] <harmagent> what's the up/down speeds on fios?
[07:54] <darkdelusions> it depends on the package
[07:54] <harmagent> what do you get for around $55/month?
[07:55] <darkdelusions> I can't remember
[07:55] <darkdelusions> Well it look like titan might have gotten his stuff working
[07:55] <Daughain> a 20M duplex runs abput $70ish/mo
[07:55] <Daughain> I think 55 gets you a 10M
[07:56] <Daughain> Since I pay 70ish/mo anyway......
[07:56] <harmagent> if I dont have a verizon home phone it says I can get 15/5 for $55/month
[07:56] <harmagent> hrm
[07:56] <Daughain> Spring for the extra 20 and go 20M
[07:57] <harmagent> no doubt
[07:57] <harmagent> I have 25 down right now
[07:57] <darkdelusions> Ya we are gonna rint a house in april
[07:57] <darkdelusions> rent
[07:57] <darkdelusions> and I am gonna get a 20 down
[07:57] <Daughain> Ours us supposed to go up to aboput 18 down this month....
[07:57] <Daughain> Still only about 2M up, though.
[07:58] <harmagent> yea so is mine
[07:58] <Daughain> Next time i move, I think I am gonna call verizon first. =)
[07:58] <harmagent> but 250k/sec works for me
[07:58] <harmagent> (on the upstream side at least)
[07:58] <harmagent> the 25 down is really nice
[07:59] <Daughain> 20 down would make me happy, specially with 20M up on the other side.=)
[07:59] <Daughain> The hilarious part s, noone at comcast seems to kmnow what a duplex is.
[08:00] <Daughain> titan_ark: Any love?
[08:01] <titan_ark> :D
[08:01] <titan_ark> Yes
[08:01] <titan_ark> I am in!
[08:01] <Daughain> Cool. =)
[08:01] <titan_ark> The alternate wubi file worked :D
[08:02] <harmagent> Daughain: I'm sure someone does... but you cant reach them by phone. and it's just the one person. they work in a bunker deep underground :)
[08:02] <titan_ark> Wireless not working but :(
[08:02] <Daughain> harmagent:  No, they telecommute, and only pick up the phone if it is the owner of the company calling.
[08:02] <harmagent> LOL
[08:03] <Daughain> Hey, bet its true! =-)
[08:03] <harmagent> and even then they flip a coin to see if they are going to answer lol
[08:03] <Daughain> Prolly.
[08:03] <Daughain> And they still get away with it. =)
[08:03] <Daughain> titan_ark: what card do you have for wireless?
[08:04] <titan_ark> It is a broadcom
[08:04] <Daughain> brb
[08:04] <titan_ark> Okay
[08:04] <darkdelusions> !broadcom
[08:04] <Novice> Anyone know how to get radeon 1650 pro to work on kubuntu 9.10?
[08:04] <titan_ark> darkdelusions :) thx for the link! it worked
[08:04]  * darkdelusions flexs
[08:05] <titan_ark> I think this wubi file must be updated on the kubuntu site
[08:05] <titan_ark> rather than laving people frustrated :P
[08:06] <darkdelusions> titan_ark:  I told ya I consulted god aka google
[08:06] <darkdelusions> :)
[08:06] <titan_ark> :D
[08:06] <darkdelusions> do you know what broadcom card your using
[08:06] <titan_ark> ooh nope :P not now
[08:07] <titan_ark> can chk online from the HP site
[08:07] <darkdelusions> or you could right click on my network places
[08:07] <darkdelusions> and look for wireless
[08:07] <ubuntu> anyone RO ?
[08:07] <darkdelusions> its should say something like broadcom XXXXX
[08:07] <darkdelusions> ro?
[08:08] <ubuntu> ro = romania ... :|
[08:08] <titan_ark> I have enabled wireless connections, but it does not show me the wireless connection
[08:08] <titan_ark> or card
[08:08] <darkdelusions> broadcom card tend to be shortbus special
[08:08] <titan_ark> I am on a wired connection now
[08:09] <darkdelusions> from what i have gathered reading the forums
[08:09] <Daughain> ru hwinfo
[08:09] <Daughain> run, even./
[08:09] <Daughain> Oooh...May need to install it....
[08:09] <titan_ark> okay.
[08:09] <titan_ark> makes no sense to me :P
[08:09] <darkdelusions> or
[08:10] <Daughain> I *think* I have a braodcom on realtek controler.....
[08:11] <darkdelusions> you can try lspci | Wireless I think that the command I am thinking of
[08:11] <darkdelusions> errr
[08:12] <darkdelusions> you can try lspci | grep Wireless I think that the command I am thinking of
[08:12] <d__> ohk
[08:12] <d__> nice
[08:12] <d__> hehe... on kubuntu 9,10
[08:13] <d__> heil ubuntu!!
[08:14] <darkdelusions> hwinfo might be the best route
[08:14] <darkdelusions> cause atm I can't think of what I am trying to do :)
[08:14] <titan_ark> ah got it
[08:14] <titan_ark> BCM4312
[08:14] <darkdelusions> !broadcom
[08:15] <Daughain> lspci doesnt show wireless.
[08:15] <darkdelusions> use that link
[08:15] <darkdelusions> Daughain: ya it does :)
[08:15] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  It didnt for me. =(
[08:15] <titan_ark> just called my pal whoa lso has a broadcom card and said on his the B43 was instable (Ubuntu Karmic)
[08:16] <titan_ark> lspci just showed mine :P
[08:16] <darkdelusions> 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[08:16] <Daughain> The joys of using a different OS. =)
[08:17] <Daughain> lspci doesnt like me.
[08:18] <darkdelusions> Daughain: are u using lspci or the command I listed above
[08:18] <darkdelusions> with the grep statement
[08:18] <dmbkiwi> I'm trying to run a bash script as sudo, which contains a "let" command.  However, if I run it with sudo (via cron), I get an error "11: let: not found".  I know that let is an internal command, but is there a way around this?  I simply want to do "let a=a+1".
[08:19] <darkdelusions> titan_ark: the boardcom wiki i just linked you will get you up and going
[08:19] <Daughain> The one you listed above shows as 'Wireless: command not found'
[08:19] <darkdelusions> ya
[08:19] <darkdelusions> I messed up
[08:19] <Daughain> lspci simply does not include wireless.
[08:19] <darkdelusions> its lspci | grep  Wireless
[08:19] <darkdelusions> minus the xtra space
[08:19] <titan_ark> darkdelusions, yes I saw that. Just googling and supposedly the STA driver is better so just trying to find how to install it
[08:20] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi: paste bin you scrip and let me play with it
[08:20] <Daughain> http://pastebin.ca/1742453
[08:21] <Daughain> Thats the lspci output.
[08:21] <darkdelusions> Daughain: you lspci hate you
[08:22] <darkdelusions> wow
[08:22] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  Ayup
[08:22] <darkdelusions> your lspci hates you :)
[08:22] <darkdelusions> DD now with more engrish
[08:22] <Daughain> I got wireless, veen using it for a while now....Using it now. =)
[08:22] <Daughain> lol
[08:22] <dmbkiwi> darkdelusions: thanks - http://pastebin.ca/1742454
[08:22] <Daughain> Moree toys.
[08:23] <Daughain> Might be the difference tween kubuntu and ubuntu.....Not sure.
[08:23] <Daughain> Dont see why, though.
[08:25] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi:  you could run the hole script as root
[08:25] <Daughain> Ok, why use let in the first place??
[08:25]  * Daughain <[08:25] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi: on my lazy apt script I use sudo -v
[08:26] <Daughain> Looksllike you could remove the 'let' and it would read the same.
[08:26] <dmbkiwi> darkdelusions: but how do I do that from a cron job - I'm running the script from /etc/crontab with the following line:
[08:26] <darkdelusions> darkdelusions: ahh
[08:27] <darkdelusions> oops
[08:27] <Daughain> lol
[08:27] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi: ahh that is a good question :)
[08:27] <dmbkiwi> */10 * * * *    root    /usr/local/bin/spindowntv
[08:27] <darkdelusions> not sure if the guys in #bashscripts are awake but they might be more useful
[08:27] <dmbkiwi> darkdelusions:  thanks
[08:27]  * Daughain waits for an answer.
[08:27] <noaXess> is there an official mozilla firefor or thunderbird channel?
[08:28] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi: I have never try a cron job script before
[08:28] <darkdelusions> most of mine are HI I AM LAZY lets make this even more stupid simple
[08:28] <darkdelusions> like my lazyapt script :)
[08:29] <darkdelusions> so all i have to do is type in apt i for installs or apt p for purge :) or apt a for aptitude :)
[08:29]  * Daughain bitchslaps darkdelusions  again...
[08:30]  * darkdelusions opens up a fresh can of woop arse on Daughain..
[08:30] <dmbkiwi> darkdelusions: different issue - I think you are talking about aliases there.
[08:30] <Daughain> I still want to know why it wont run with the 'let' statement removed from the rest of the line.
[08:30] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi: its more then alias's but ya
[08:31] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: you can with "let a=0".  But changing "let a=a+1" to "a=a+1" gives an error.
[08:32] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: maybe I should write it in python.
[08:32] <Daughain> Strange, its the same either way.....
[08:33] <Daughain> Well......a=a+1 isan absolute, while let a=a+1 may be a variable....
[08:33] <Daughain> I think I need to learn python too.
[08:34] <darkdelusions> technical according to the bash scripting guide that would work
[08:34] <darkdelusions> let COUNTER=COUNTER+1
[08:34] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: try it in an interactive shell - a=a+1 results in $a being "a+1", as opposed to "1"
[08:35] <Daughain> dmbkiwi:   a+1 /= 1
[08:35] <darkdelusions> a = var
[08:36] <Daughain> Yes, allows progressive increase by '1' each iteration.
[08:37] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: what do you mean by a+1 /= 1
[08:37] <Daughain> I'm still stuck on the 'let' call.
[08:38] <darkdelusions> getting yelled at by the bot in 3 2 1
[08:38] <Daughain> Hmmm.
[08:38] <darkdelusions> The let command carries out arithmetic operations on variables. [3]  In many cases, it functions as a less complex version of expr.
[08:38] <Daughain> Oh...duh!!!
[08:38] <Daughain> '/=' means does not equal
[08:39] <Daughain> == does equal, or true..
[08:39] <Daughain> <=  less than or equal to.
[08:39] <Daughain> >=  greater than or equal to.
[08:40] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  OK, that explains it.=)
[08:40] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: am struggling with expr now - how does that work?
[08:41] <Daughain> dmbkiwi: No clue......I'm not a scripter, yet./
[08:41] <Daughain> dmbkiwi:   Thats why I am asking all kinds of dumb questions.=)
[08:41] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: ok - will fucking google it ;-)
[08:42] <Daughain> google likes me about as much as lspci does. :P
[08:43] <darkdelusions> dmbkiwi:
[08:43] <darkdelusions> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:44] <faileas> lol
[08:44] <darkdelusions> ?
[08:44] <faileas> Daughain: tools neither love or hate
[08:44] <faileas> you just need to learn their odd ways
[08:45] <Daughain> faileas: If I run a command, and it fails to produce the output it is supposed to, it hates me.
[08:45] <Daughain> :P
[08:46] <faileas> Daughain: what were you looking for?
[08:46] <faileas> and did you ask nicely?
[08:46] <Daughain> We were discussing lspci as a method of looking up wireless card data.
[08:46] <faileas> ahh
[08:46] <faileas> for that it sucks
[08:46] <Daughain> My lspci output has no listing for wireless.
[08:46] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: darkdelusions: got it - a=0 / a=`expr $a + 1`
[08:47] <faileas> you want LSHW
[08:47] <faileas> er
[08:47] <faileas> lshw
[08:47] <faileas> was it a pci wireless card?
[08:47] <faileas> lshw is a lot easier to read, and more comprehensive. though if its a USB card, lsusb might do too
[08:47] <Daughain> NIfty command.
[08:48] <Daughain> I tend toward hwinfo.
[08:48] <faileas> eheh. it is. one of the things i picked up along the way, along with htop
[08:48] <titan_ark> still discussing that? I got the sta drivers from the broadcom site but cant seem to find instructions to build it
[08:48] <titan_ark> :D
[08:48] <Daughain> conversations go round, titan_ark
[08:49] <titan_ark> :)
[08:49] <Daughain> Instaling htop now......
[08:49] <darkdelusions> rofl
[08:49] <Daughain> Will htop show ram users as well?
[08:50] <Daughain> Cool, it des....brb
[08:51] <darkdelusions> titan_ark:  where did you get the file from
[08:51] <darkdelusions> let me download it and look at it
[08:51] <titan_ark> from the broadcom site
[08:51] <titan_ark> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[08:52] <titan_ark> cant seem to find sensible instructions to get it working but
[08:52] <darkdelusions> ok
[08:52] <darkdelusions> the frist thing you need is build-essentials
[08:52] <darkdelusions> there might be a package for this some where thou
[08:53] <titan_ark> darkdelusions, I am a n00b trying to get around and learn :P
[08:53] <Daughain> faileas: Mebbe you can help me with a lmsensors issue...??
[08:53] <titan_ark> cant figure out how to do it
[08:53] <Daughain> titan_ark:  Do you have a readme file?
[08:54] <darkdelusions> titan_ark: rofl ok first thing
[08:54] <titan_ark> supposedly Ubuntu allows you to get the driver in its software listing
[08:54] <titan_ark> Daughain just lisence  :P
[08:54] <faileas> Daughain: the one tome i had a lmsensors issue, it was a box too old to support it ;p
[08:55] <titan_ark> I think I shall try an update and hope it sets it right
[08:55] <Daughain> faileas:  I need to be able to read the output from lmsensors and apply it to a karamba theme.
[08:55] <faileas> ok, outta my depth ;p
[08:55] <faileas> though pipes, and probably cut will be needed
[08:55] <Daughain> faileas:   Ya got my hopes all up..... =)
[08:56] <Daughain> faileas:   I'm editing an older script to work with my machine.
[08:56] <faileas> Daughain: well lets see. you need to take info from lm sensors. strip part of it (use cut) then pass it on the karamba?
[08:56] <titan_ark> My battery seems to drain really fast :-o
[08:57] <Daughain> faileas:  Actually, if you could just tell me what to use to display the sensors output, I can prolly get the rest.
[08:57] <darkdelusions> ok
[08:58] <darkdelusions> titan_ark:  ok battery thing first
[08:58] <darkdelusions> :)
[08:58] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: just use the command sensors
[08:58] <darkdelusions> left clik on you battery icon
[08:59] <faileas> sensors?
[08:59] <darkdelusions> and choose powersave
[08:59] <darkdelusions> so it will dim you screen
[08:59] <faileas> Daughain: the command is sensors, as dmbkiwi said
[08:59] <titan_ark> It is in powersave!
[09:00] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: to set up, run "sensors-detect" via sudo and just follow your nose
[09:00] <darkdelusions> titan_ark: go to the K menu>Applications>System>Hardware drivers
[09:01] <darkdelusions> and see if the Broadcom STA wireless driver is listed there
[09:01] <Daughain> I'm realy beginning to hate this bash shell.
[09:02] <dmbkiwi> Daughain: don't bash the bash
[09:02] <faileas> lol
[09:02] <faileas> Daughain: too used to dos? ;p
[09:02] <Daughain> No, gnome. :P
[09:02] <titan_ark> Yes! It is there.
[09:02] <titan_ark> I tried activating it and get an error.
[09:03] <faileas> Daughain: eh. i tend to use yakuake for my terminal needs
[09:03] <titan_ark> Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[09:03] <darkdelusions> do u have kpackage manager open
[09:03] <darkdelusions> or running updates?
[09:04] <titan_ark> running update
[09:04] <darkdelusions> wait till thats done
[09:04] <Daughain> faileas: I just installed kde, so, still getting used to it.
[09:04] <titan_ark> okay
[09:04] <Daughain> Though, I think I found the answer to my questions...
[09:04] <darkdelusions> once that is done do the hokey pokey and turn your self about
[09:04] <faileas> Daughain: yakuake is a drop down terminal. guake is the closest equivilent to it for gnome
[09:05] <darkdelusions> then go into the path i told you earlier
[09:05] <titan_ark> darkdelusions, dint get you
[09:05] <Daughain> faileas:  darkdelusions mentioned it earliere......Unfortumately, there are more things that I need/want to do/learn that I need to take a break and start concentrating on just a few. =)
[09:05] <darkdelusions> nothing I am being slap happy
[09:06]  * Daughain chucles.
[09:06] <faileas> Daughain: eh, if you need to use terminal, it'll make it WAY easier
[09:06] <Daughain> faileas:  I found a nifty plasmoid that puts term 1 click away.
[09:06] <faileas> f12 pulls down a window. do what you need, hit f12 again
[09:06]  * darkdelusions slaps Daughain with another cactus agian
[09:06]  * Daughain drops a snowman on darkdelusions 
[09:07] <faileas> hmm
[09:07] <darkdelusions> i have no clue why i like abusing you :)
[09:07] <titan_ark> okay update done, saving a reboot
[09:07]  * Daughain shrugs......
[09:07] <Daughain> I return the favor?
[09:07] <darkdelusions> rofl
[09:07]  * faileas ponders making a cd of the other varient of ubuntu he uses
[09:07] <Daughain> Bacups ever hurt, faileas
[09:08] <faileas> naw, i mean an actual CD
[09:08] <Daughain> Isnt that a backup?
[09:08] <darkdelusions> faileas: i stoped making CD's because i tend to loose them or cant find my sharpy
[09:08] <faileas> i use this wierd little mongrel distro on one of my systems
[09:08] <darkdelusions> he means burning another iso
[09:08] <faileas> with a few mods, i could probably whack it into a bootable cd with reconstructor, and put it on my dropbox if anyone needs it ;p
[09:09]  * Daughain chuckles..
[09:09]  * faileas wishes there was a properly skinny ubuntu varient like the one i use ;p
[09:09] <Daughain> I need another XP box.
[09:09] <faileas> lol
[09:09] <faileas> Most of my boxen dualboot
[09:09] <faileas> other than my server, and the one with no hard drive
[09:10] <Daughain> Actually, I just need another laptop.....
[09:10] <faileas> lol
[09:10] <darkdelusions> I have 2 hard drives i swap them if i want my windows box
[09:10] <Daughain> No...I do need another XP box....
[09:10] <faileas> never can have enough hardware ;)
[09:10] <darkdelusions> I just want a netbook
[09:10]  * faileas has *takes a look*
[09:10] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  So do I, actually.
[09:11] <Daughain> Waiting for those 2-4G SSD models come down to about $50.
[09:11] <darkdelusions> even with windows 7 i cant stay in windows for very long anymore
[09:11] <faileas> an xp box for gaming, a dualboot for everything else, and a old laptop i need to find space for in my room which runs my mongrel linux
[09:11] <darkdelusions> my linux drive is in my laptop more then my WIndows Drive
[09:12] <darkdelusions> but I am sadastic and like challanges
[09:12] <darkdelusions> so
[09:12] <Daughain> I keep one XP box for smartphone apps and three bots.
[09:13] <faileas> well, i use kubuntu mostly. I actually find not being able to do the middle mouse swipe and paste, the biggest pain in windows
[09:13] <darkdelusions> I find not being able to shade things in windows annoying
[09:13] <darkdelusions> without an xtra program
[09:14] <Daughain> I just find windows annoying.
[09:14] <faileas> lol
[09:14] <faileas> i never met an OS i truely hate
[09:14] <faileas> well OS X.. i have a mild dislike for
[09:14] <Daughain> I have an issue with a tihing telling me what I can and cannot do.
[09:15] <darkdelusions> Daughain: turning off uac make that problem go away quickly
[09:15] <Daughain> Getting rid of windows males it permanent. =)
[09:15] <Daughain> makes, even.
[09:15] <Daughain> And, linux is so much more flexible.
[09:15] <darkdelusions> well you could think of sudo as a kinda uac :)
[09:16] <darkdelusions> but no one complans about sudo :)
[09:16] <Daughain> uac wasnt the issue......updates that crash the system....."windows genuine advantage"......Need I say more?
[09:17] <darkdelusions> I just hate having to pay for 15 copies of windows :)
[09:17] <Daughain> Hell, my cell phone has better security than windows does.
[09:17] <darkdelusions> for each machine :)
[09:17] <Daughain> Ouch
[09:18] <Daughain> I dont pay.
[09:18] <darkdelusions> i have 5 computer tbh :)
[09:18] <titan_ark> back
[09:18] <darkdelusions> ok
[09:18] <titan_ark> System hangs if I try activating the STA ddriver
[09:18] <Daughain> Little thing called GA hack.
[09:19] <darkdelusions> well umm
[09:20] <Daughain> Anyway....
[09:20] <titan_ark> When I try sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[09:20] <Daughain> If rim would port BB desktop for linux, I would be set.
[09:20] <titan_ark> Then I get this error: Errors were encountered while processing: bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:20] <titan_ark>  fakeroot
[09:20] <pawel_121_> you can only imagine how insecure windowses are, if very old viruses steel feel good there must be enormous numbers of longstanding holes
[09:20] <darkdelusions> i mean titan_ark you try following this http://djkaos.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/installing-broadcom-80211-linux-sta-driver/
[09:21] <darkdelusions> Daughain:  I think I have a howto for BB on linux
[09:21] <Daughain> pawel_121_:  There are....And they just keep ading more.
[09:22] <pawel_121_> Daughain, yes and anti virs just try to workaround design problems
[09:22] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  Remoind me another day..... =) Thats just one in a long llist of things for me. =)
[09:22] <Daughain> pawel_121_:  I agree, thats why I'm here. =)
[09:22] <pawel_121_> Daughain glad to hear this :)
[09:23] <rohdef> how do I make Huawei E220 work in Kubuntu?
[09:23] <Daughain> And, as much as she hates it, so is the wife.
[09:23] <Daughain> pawel_121_:  There are exactly 3 apps that make me keep an XP box.
[09:24] <pawel_121_> Daughain, I also keep it, but only for some games
[09:25] <Daughain> BB desktop, BBSAK, and Blackra1n.
[09:26] <Daughain> Actually, if I could switch my old lappy to linux, I thikn I could get the DVD, flopy, and wireless back on it.
[09:27] <darkdelusions> Ok sleep need to be up and read to go do crap around 10 tomarrow
[09:27] <Daughain> Peace, darkdelusions
[09:27] <darkdelusions> titan_ark: send me a priviate message and let me know if the guide I sentyou works out for you
[09:28] <darkdelusions> night guys
[09:28]  * Daughain drops a snwball down darkdelusions  shirt
[09:29] <rohdef> how do I make Huawei E220 work in Kubuntu?
[09:30] <darkdelusions> Daughain: check out barry for your blackberry
[09:30] <darkdelusions> sudo apt-get install barry
[09:30] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  I have, like I said, thats for another day.
[09:30] <darkdelusions> DO IT NOW!
[09:30] <darkdelusions> :)
[09:30] <Daughain> :P
[09:30] <Daughain> lol
[09:30] <darkdelusions> na but look up barry
[09:30] <titan_ark> darkdelusions, sure shall try that now
[09:30] <titan_ark> gnite
[09:30] <titan_ark> :)
[09:31] <darkdelusions> I have never used it
[09:31] <Daughain> Good ole barry project.
[09:31] <darkdelusions> but i ditched by BB for android :)
[09:31] <Daughain> ANother iteration or two for android and I willas well.
[09:31] <darkdelusions> 2.1 is pretty much the cat meow :)
[09:31] <Daughain> I almost bought the G1. =)
[09:32] <darkdelusions> I have one of those collecting dust somewhere
[09:32] <Daughain> Seems to depend on the hardware it is running on from what I've seen.
[09:32] <darkdelusions> its my wireless modem :)
[09:32]  * Daughain chuckles..
[09:32] <Daughain> Good use.
[09:32] <darkdelusions> if your with t-mobile get nexus 1
[09:33] <darkdelusions> if your not with t-mobile get the nexus 1 :)
[09:33] <darkdelusions> well not really
[09:33] <darkdelusions> cause edge sucks
[09:33] <Daughain> After the fun I had hackingmy berry, I doubt I will buy another tmo branded phone again.
[09:33] <darkdelusions> Daughain:  the Nexus 1 is not a tmo branded
[09:33] <titan_ark> lol
[09:33] <Daughain> Baicaly, I have free web access.
[09:33] <darkdelusions> it sold by google
[09:33] <titan_ark> there seem to be so many bugs on the nexus 1
[09:33] <Daughain> Oh, ya. the new one...
[09:34] <titan_ark> at least thats what the many blogs say
[09:34] <Daughain> Havent looked too much into that one yet.
[09:34] <darkdelusions> but it only really worth a hoot if you have t-mobile
[09:34] <darkdelusions> sleeeeeeep
[09:34] <darkdelusions> ZzZzZzZz
[09:34] <Daughain> 3G phones useless if you dont have 3G locally. =)
[09:35] <Daughain> Peace, bro.
[09:35] <darkdelusions> true
[09:35] <darkdelusions> If i dont force myself to sleep I will till stay up till 5 talking to you like i did lastnight
[09:35] <darkdelusions> or the other night
[09:35] <Proxima> can anyone help me with ubuntu in private please
[09:35] <Daughain> Ask here, Proxima
[09:36] <darkdelusions> Proxima: its best if you ask in the channel and have a community effort at fixing your problem
[09:36] <darkdelusions> just ask titan_ark ;)
[09:36] <Proxima> ok when running a live cd the system asks for a username and password  what should i type
[09:36] <titan_ark> :D
[09:37] <Daughain> When does it ask this?
[09:37] <Proxima> ok thanks
[09:37] <Daughain> During the install?
[09:37] <titan_ark> Proxima, pls dont mistake the :D for your query, it was to what darkdelusion suggested. I am a n00b.
[09:37] <Proxima> When i boot from the cd...
[09:37] <Daughain> titan_ark:   Aret we all...?? =)
[09:38] <Proxima> it prompts for those
[09:38] <titan_ark> Daughain, well I am the lowest level.
[09:38] <Daughain> Just hit enter and see what happens.
[09:38] <Proxima> The very first display
[09:38] <Daughain> titan_ark:  Dont be so sure, I only instaled ubuntu a month ago. =)
[09:38] <titan_ark> whoa!
[09:38] <titan_ark> nice :)
[09:39] <Daughain> Proxima:  Umm....which OS?
[09:39] <titan_ark> I have been trying for a long time.
[09:39] <titan_ark> http://djkaos.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/installing-broadcom-80211-linux-sta-driver/
[09:39] <Proxima> ubuntu 9.04 desktop edition
[09:39] <titan_ark> has left me wondering :(
[09:39] <Daughain> titan_ark:  Well, that was Jaunty, tried the upgrade to Karmic, and that kinda failed, so, wernt with a fresh install.
[09:40] <Daughain> Oooohh....Leme think.....
[09:40] <darkdelusions> umm the live cd user name and password is ... let me look
[09:40] <Daughain> Only had Jaunty for a week....
[09:40] <titan_ark> Daughain, Ive used xubuntu 8.10 on my ol ol box after i got this notebook never was able to get ubuntu working fully
[09:40] <titan_ark> Now I am determined to do it!
[09:41] <Daughain> Cool. =)
[09:41] <darkdelusions> titan_ark:  I will help you with it tomarrow
[09:41] <darkdelusions> or at a later date
[09:41] <titan_ark> darkdelusions, sure :) I shall try as long as I can stay up
[09:41] <Daughain> I finally got pissed off after vista crashed wihtin 5 hours of my getting this lapy, and XP x64 had no drivers, so....Asked around and was pointed to ubuntu.
[09:42] <darkdelusions> some of the steps in that are not needed
[09:42] <darkdelusions> Proxima: what are you trying to do
[09:42] <Daughain> 9.04 had sound issues for me, but that was solved with 9.10
[09:42] <titan_ark> Daughain, thats 1 reason I hate notebooks, compatibility issues.
[09:43] <Daughain> I hate desktops, they take up too much room.
[09:43] <Proxima> To boot from the cd and install later but it wants username and password
[09:43] <titan_ark> I was running xubuntu on my 6 yr old box with just 256 MB RAM and a P4 1.9 :P
[09:43] <darkdelusions> the install should not be asking you for a password
[09:43] <titan_ark> I remember runing the live CD days back, no passwords asked.
[09:43] <darkdelusions> the live CD should automagicly load you into X
[09:43] <titan_ark> I am certain.
[09:43] <Daughain> No, which is what I am stil trying to fgure out....
[09:44] <Daughain> WHere did you get the cd, Proxima
[09:44] <Proxima> canonical
[09:44] <Daughain> ?!?!
[09:44] <Proxima> ltd
[09:45] <darkdelusions> he means cronical
[09:45] <titan_ark> I guess Proxima means, the CD they ship.
[09:45] <Daughain> Oh......
[09:45] <darkdelusions> the company behind ubuntu
[09:45] <Proxima> yes
[09:45] <tsimpson> darkdelusions: it is "Canonical Ltd."
[09:45] <Daughain> Proxima: dl the iso from the ubuntu site and burn your own cd.
[09:45] <tsimpson> not "cronical"
[09:46] <darkdelusions> tsimpson: i am tired :) spelling is not a skill i have when I am tired ;)
[09:46] <Proxima> ok thanks
[09:46] <tsimpson> Proxima: you could try the username "ubuntu" with no password
[09:46] <Proxima> let me see
[09:46] <darkdelusions> still odd that its asking for an L&P
[09:47] <tsimpson> it is odd, but it did happen to me once a few years ago
[09:47]  * Daughain nods.
[09:47] <darkdelusions> tsimpson: humm I will have to remember that thou ;)
[09:48] <Proxima> ek ook
[09:48] <darkdelusions> aka i will forget it in 5 minutes
[09:48] <Daughain> Proxima: That work?
[09:48] <darkdelusions> ok i am not kidding now
[09:48] <Proxima> ha ha dark
[09:48] <Daughain> darkdelusions:  Get ya ass to bed. :P
[09:48] <Proxima> its loading ill let you know
[09:50] <Proxima> ubuntu has its own formater ryt
[09:51]  * Daughain nods.
[09:51] <Daughain> It'll get to that after a bit.
[09:51] <Proxima> ill be with you now now
[09:52] <Daughain> ???
[09:55] <titan_ark> sigh
[09:55] <Daughain> Sup, titan_ark
[09:55] <titan_ark> struggling to get the wireless on
[09:55]  * Daughain nods.
[09:55] <titan_ark> sitting in the corner of the room with a wire plugged in hurts :P
[09:56] <titan_ark> wth cant install vlc!
[09:56] <titan_ark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:56] <titan_ark>  bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:56] <titan_ark>  fakeroot
[09:56] <titan_ark> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:56] <FloodBotK1> titan_ark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <titan_ark> :( oops
[09:56] <titan_ark> any idea what this means?
[09:57] <tsimpson> that says there was an error trying to install those packages, the errors were earlier in the output
[09:57] <Daughain> pastebin/imagebin is our freind.
[09:58] <titan_ark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/353390/
[09:58] <titan_ark> pls have a look
[09:59] <tsimpson> well, the good news is vlc was installed
[10:00] <titan_ark> yes I saw that
[10:00] <titan_ark> but what is with this error?
[10:01] <tsimpson> the errors are between line 138 and line 145
[10:01] <tsimpson> you should report a bug against those packages I guess
[10:03] <titan_ark> Okay.
[10:03] <Proxima> Tsimpson i did what u told me and it workd bt the screen doesnt display anythng
[10:03] <titan_ark> Any pointers on how to do that? (n00b here)
[10:04] <tsimpson> titan_ark: use the command "ubuntu-bug bcmwl-kernel-source" and "ubuntu-bug fakeroot", that will start a wizard to report the issues
[10:04] <tsimpson> Proxima: have you tried booting into "safe graphics mode"?
[10:05] <Proxima> no i booted normaly nw
[10:06] <Proxima> should i try safe graphic mode
[10:06] <Proxima> first
[10:06] <tsimpson> give it a go
[10:06] <titan_ark> I am getting "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 4313, errno = 11"
[10:07] <titan_ark> when I try those commands
[10:07] <tsimpson> did it still work though?
[10:09] <titan_ark> yes it has created a report
[10:09] <titan_ark> filling the forms now
[10:11] <titan_ark> aha at the end of filling the forma nd submiiting launchpad site gives an error!
[10:11] <titan_ark> wow what a day
[10:11] <faLUCE>  hi. do you know any good mini-itx product with ubuntu and a DVI video output?
[10:11] <tsimpson> titan_ark: try a longer summary
[10:13] <titan_ark> okay
[10:14] <tsimpson> or possibly a shorter summary, I can't remember which has the issue ;)
[10:14] <tsimpson> one of them often causes an OOPS error
[10:14] <titan_ark> well my summary was really short, I shall try a longer one
[10:14] <titan_ark> tsimpson, any suggestions on getting a  broadcom wireless driver on?
[10:15] <tsimpson> I've never owned a broadcom, so I can't really help
[10:15] <titan_ark> ah okay
[10:16] <titan_ark> I got the package and this: http://djkaos.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/installing-broadcom-80211-linux-sta-driver/
[10:16] <titan_ark> but dunno how to go about it
[10:16] <tsimpson> you can give the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx a go
[10:18] <titan_ark> bcmwl-kernel-source fakeroot E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:18] <titan_ark> I get this again
[10:28] <hazan> 7__++__0)&&&^%$$##@--00-09888
[10:29] <Daughain> The kanji looking thing is neat
[10:32] <titan_ark> damn, the driver is activated but still cant connect!
[10:32] <titan_ark> i keep getting the fakeroot error also
[10:36] <titan_ark> ............
[10:55] <Daughain> WHat command would i use to find my dl bandwidth?
[10:59] <harmagent> I use bwm to see current bandwidth being used on the network interface. its not pretty... and there are better tools out there but I mention that one because 1)  I use it frequently  and 2) I cant think of any of the other ones right now
[11:07] <Daughain> bwm doesnt do anything.
[11:08] <Daughain> Is that an app?
[11:09] <Daughain> faileas: Do you know what term command to use to pull up ul asnd dl stats?
[11:09] <Daughain> If ya still here.... =)
[11:10] <faileas> er
[11:10] <faileas> there was an app i used to use for that..
[11:10] <faileas> gimme a moment
[11:10] <Daughain> No worries.
[11:11] <faileas> my compy is a little slow cause i'm setting up a VM
[11:11] <Daughain> I know what its like. =)
[11:11] <faileas> and i can't remeber - using apt to jog my memory ;p
[11:11] <Daughain> Isnt there anything native?
[11:11] <faileas> nope
[11:11] <Daughain> ok....
[11:12] <QBee> wnas
[11:12] <faileas> eh, i can't remember. DOOM. must be old age catchin up on me
[11:12] <Daughain> wnas?
[11:12] <Daughain> faileas:  LOL
[11:12] <QBee> hi
[11:13] <Daughain> QBee: Morning.
[11:13] <faileas> Daughain: i'm SURE i have one installed
[11:13] <Daughain> faileas:  No worries, I'm still working on this karamba thee.
[11:13] <Daughain> theme.
[11:13] <Daughain> QBee: WHat can we do for ya?
[11:13] <QBee> sorry, 1st time i use quassel
[11:14] <QBee> just testing connection, dont worry, thanks anyway, ;)
[11:14] <faileas> ah hah!
[11:14] <faileas> Daughain: vnstat is what i use
[11:14] <Daughain> faileas: LOL and thanks. =)
[11:15] <faileas> Daughain: well, i'm proficient at 2 OSes. both of which run a crapload of non standard apps
[11:15] <Daughain> I'mproficient at 1 OS that I cant stand....And learning the one I like.
[11:15] <faileas> lol
[11:15] <Daughain> AMusing, and true. =)
[11:15] <faileas> i wouldn't mind a copy of 7
[11:16] <faileas> and its easier for me to get a linux install 'to spec' than windows
[11:16] <Daughain> I cringe at the thought of trying it.
[11:16] <faileas> for one thing, it handles more common archives
[11:16] <faileas> lol
[11:16] <faileas> its.. suprisingly good
[11:16] <Daughain> I beleive that.
[11:16] <Daughain> 7 or linux? =)
[11:16] <plan_rich> hey can somebody help me with the link command ln? basically i know to link files, but somehow this does not work ondirectories...
[11:16] <faileas> oh, hard choice
[11:16] <faileas> both! ;p
[11:17] <faileas> depends on the box tho
[11:17] <Daughain> I dont want to deal with the issues involved in windows anymore.....UNless I;m getting paifd. =)
[11:18] <Daughain> plan_rich: That would be a question for faileas
[11:18] <faileas> lol
[11:19] <faileas> i haven't needed to do links yet
[11:19] <faileas> so i can't help with this one
[11:19] <plan_rich> hm i got it :D ln -s -t /var/www /home/rich/link links directories
[11:19] <plan_rich> i missed that on the manual page
[11:19] <Daughain> lol
[11:19] <faileas> yay for TFA
[11:19] <Daughain> There never seem to be manual pages for what I want to do...
[11:20] <faileas> though --help would have shown you that too
[11:20] <faileas> Daughain: at some point irc and web are the best help. I totally love superuser (its a site) for that... especially when (and it happens sadly often) i can't get answer here
[11:21] <Daughain> faileas: There stands the chance that at some point I will know enough to need those resources, but not llikley anytime soon. =)
[11:21] <faileas> lol
[11:21] <faileas> I used to think that :)
[11:21] <Daughain> Abd, in this case, I doubt there is any kind of manual for how to rewrite someone elses script to fit your own system.
[11:21] <faileas> lol
[11:21] <faileas> beat it till it works
[11:21] <Daughain> Thats what I'm doing.=)
[11:22] <Daughain> And, in the process, learning a shitload.
[11:22] <faileas> lol
[11:22] <faileas> wait till the point you need to beat a whole system into working
[11:22] <Daughain> Hey, in a month, I went from my frst install to sutting here answering questions.....Not too bad.
[11:23] <faileas> i remember my first system
[11:23] <Daughain> That may be when I get around to putting kubuntu on my old toshi lappy.
[11:23] <faileas> mandriva, which my ex said was good... where the sound stopped working
[11:23] <faileas> now? i'm beating things into working like a pro ;p
[11:23] <Daughain> SOunds like my Jaunty instal. =)
[11:23] <Daughain> Soent a week trying to get sound.
[11:23] <Daughain> Spent, even.
[11:24] <Daughain> And, I'm using a gateway lapy.
[11:24]  * mostafa saying hello to all :)
[11:24] <faileas> i gave up
[11:24] <faileas> well there was other thing too
[11:24] <Daughain> Morning, mostafa
[11:24] <faileas> i think the turning point was my PIII ;p
[11:24] <mostafa> Daughain:  hello
[11:24] <faileas> nothing to lose, nothing to blow up :)
[11:25] <Daughain> faileas:  LOL....I didnt know these servers were here, so, I got my sound working using web only for info
[11:25] <faileas> !!!
[11:25]  * jussi01 reminds that chatter is in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:25] <Daughain> I was running mirc under wine, and hadnt found xchat yet.
[11:26] <Daughain> What ya need mostafa ?
[11:26] <faileas> Well, ubuntu lacked a manual till recently, so its not suprising
[11:27] <mostafa> Daughain:  I'm new in kubuntu
[11:27] <mostafa> Daughain:  I was using GNOME before
[11:27] <mostafa> Daughain:  I'm a little confused here :D
[11:27] <Daughain> Well, I'm new to kde as well, what ya need help with?
[11:27] <Daughain> jussi01: :P
[11:28] <Daughain> mostafa: Tell us what ya need, and someone will get ya squared away.
[11:29] <mostafa> Daughain:  firs I added my language , OK if I need something will let you know
[11:29] <Daughain> faileas:  vnstats may prove interesting to translate into this theme.
[11:30] <Daughain> mostafa:  NP.
[11:31]  * mostafa loves GNOME much more
[11:32] <Daughain> Take a few hours to meet kde, mostafa. I'm much happier with it, since I h=got all my workspaces set up the way I need them.
[11:33] <mostafa> Daughain:  I can't install updates !
[11:34] <Daughain> mostafa: Install what updates?
[11:34] <Daughain> Please be a little more specific.
[11:35] <mostafa> Daughain:  media codecs
[11:36] <Daughain> mostafa:  Also, are you using kubuntu, or rir you install kde in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Daughain> rir==did
[11:36] <mostafa> Daughain:  I'm using kubuntu
[11:36] <Daughain> mostafa: Ok, well, Ill try to help ya. =)
[11:36] <mostafa> Daughain:  THANKSSSSSSSSSSS
[11:37] <Daughain> mostafa:  You can use term, known as konsole in kde
[11:37] <Daughain> click on the little blue ball on the bottom left hand corner, that has all the contents you used to find at the top left.
[11:38] <mostafa> Daughain: KONSOLE ? WHERE IS?
[11:38] <Daughain> mostafa: Slow down and I will tel ya. :P
[11:38] <Daughain> That little blue ball is called Kickoff aplication launcher.
[11:39] <Daughain> click on it and go to applications.
[11:39] <mostafa> Daughain:  :p
[11:40] <Daughain> scroll up to system, and then scroll down to terminal
[11:40]  * mostafa getting familiar with kubuntu
[11:40] <Daughain> Hey I use a widget to give me one-click access to term.
[11:41] <Daughain> right click on the desktop, select add widgets, scroll down to konsole, click on it, click the button labaled add widget
[11:42]  * mostafa is updating his kubuntu 
[11:42] <mostafa> Daughain:  thanks :p
[11:42] <Daughain> That gives you a widget to access term. Very useful, too.=)
[11:43] <Daughain> Thats on workspace #4 for me.
[11:46] <Daughain> mostafa: Just use my name so I know ya askin a question. =)
[11:47] <mostafa> Daughain:
[11:47] <Daughain> Yup?
[11:49]  * mostafa faces the first bug in kubuntu !
[11:49] <Daughain> mostafa: could you add your question after my name? =) I'm editing a theme on another workspace
[11:49] <Daughain> What ya find?
[11:50] <mostafa> Daughain:  I installed a new theme and I clicked on folder view , the application crashes
[11:51] <Daughain> dolphin, or kde?
[11:51] <Bonster> how u fix this? http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9012/imageprw.jpg
[11:51] <mostafa> Daughain: KDE
[11:51] <Daughain> mostafa: Err......Is the theme you dl'd a kde theme?
[11:51] <Daughain> Bonster: Lemme take a look.
[11:52] <mostafa> Daughain: kde yes
[11:52] <Daughain> mostafa: OK, you are using kde4.3.2?
[11:53] <mostafa> Daughain:  I don't know , I installed kubuntu 9.10
[11:53] <enrold> hi
[11:53] <Daughain> mostafa:  Ok, did you make sure the theme was for kde4+?
[11:54] <mostafa> Daughain:  I clicked on new theme , and I installed one from the list
[11:54] <Daughain> Bonster: Search for the plugin and install it.
[11:55] <Daughain> enrold: WHat ya need?
[11:55] <enrold> nothing thx
[11:55] <mostafa> enrold: hello dude ;)
[11:55] <enrold> i only look around
[11:55] <enrold> hi mostafa XD
[11:56] <frchris> hi guys wondered if any1 here could help with tidying up my startup and shutdown sequences?
[11:56] <Daughain> mostafa: Try dling the theme from kde-look.org and instaling it m,anualy via the readme dirs.
[11:56] <Daughain> frchris: Thats out of my league, bug jussi01
[11:57] <jussi01> nope, out of my league also
[11:57] <Daughain> We runnin out of helpers tonight.....
[11:57] <mostafa> Daughain:  thanks
[11:58] <frchris> k just thought i'd try - installed Ubuntu 9.10, switched to KDE but startup insists on going via Ubuntu screen and have to power down via login screen
[11:58] <Daughain> faileas: you have any ideas for frchris ?
[11:58] <Daughain> Oh!!!
[11:58] <Daughain> fr
[11:58] <Daughain> frchris: That seems to be normal, happens to me as well.
[11:58] <frchris> cheers Daughain
[11:59] <enrold> bb guys XD
[11:59]  * mostafa respects kde but going back to gnome !
[11:59] <frchris> thought i might be missing something
[11:59] <Daughain> frchris: The fix involves editing the gdm and kdm.conf files, if I remember correctly.
[11:59] <Daughain> I just havent gotten that far yet. =)
[11:59] <frchris> ooh - ok...
[11:59] <frchris> must admit i'm a bit of a Linux newbie
[11:59] <frchris> have to look that one up
[12:00] <Daughain> frchris: Goes like this, replace the contents of the gdm with the contents of the kdm
[12:00] <Daughain> frchris: I think.
[12:00] <mostafa> Daughain:  thanks :) , I go to reinstall ubuntu :)
[12:00] <frchris> lol
[12:00] <Daughain> mostafa:  lol, well, ya can always install kde via synaptics.
[12:00] <Daughain> In some ways it seems that method is more stable.
[12:01] <Daughain> frchris: gdm== gnome desktop manager
[12:01] <faileas> frchris: remove gdm, install kdm
[12:01] <faileas> and it should ask you whuch one you want
[12:01] <mostafa> Daughain:  the gnome is much easier for me :)
[12:01] <Daughain> frchris: kdm ==KDE desktop manager
[12:02] <faileas> er... actually it should ask you which one you want, the moment you have more than one DM installed
[12:02] <Daughain> Doesnt, bug.
[12:02] <faileas> wierd
[12:02] <frchris> oh excellent i'll go give it a try :)
[12:02] <Daughain> Most bugs are. =)
[12:02]  * mostafa bye all
[12:02] <faileas> it seems to for me
[12:02] <Daughain> faileas: That one just doesnt bother me that much.
[12:02] <Daughain> Safe travels mostafa
[12:03] <frchris> Thanks Daughain and faileas - off to play with my gdm and kdm lol
[12:03] <faileas> Daughain: you only see your desktop manager if you switch off ;p
[12:03] <memenode> dolphin wont connect to sftp.. "URL cannot be listed"
[12:04] <Daughain> faileas: Yup, and, once I solve this ram issue, I prolly wont reboot more than once a week or so.
[12:04] <faileas> lol
[12:04]  * faileas tends to average months
[12:04] <Daughain> faileas: If it stays stable, months arent out of the question. =)
[12:05] <Daughain> Just wish I knew how to track what was using how much ram.....
[12:05] <faileas> hmm
[12:05] <faileas> how about..
[12:05] <faileas> htop?
[12:06] <Daughain> Tried it, cant make sense out of it.
[12:06] <faileas> lol
[12:06] <Daughain> Tons of numbers, but the tags at top are meaningles to me.
[12:06] <faileas> htop f6 select mem%
[12:06] <Daughain> Gimme a min. =)
[12:08] <faileas> mem% = memory percentage ;p
[12:08] <Daughain> I know what *that* means. :P f6 gives me an unknown flag error.
[12:11] <faileas> thats odd
[12:12] <Daughain> f6 as in the keystroke?
[12:12] <Daughain> or written out?
[12:12] <Daughain> They give me 2 diferent errors. =)
[12:12] <faileas> keystroke
[12:12] <faileas> er
[12:12] <faileas> wait
[12:12] <faileas> start htop
[12:12] <faileas> THEN f6
[12:13] <FloodBotK1> faileas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <faileas> oops >_> i didn't mean f6 as an arguement on the command line. its what you press in the app ;p
[12:14] <Daughain> OK, lemme try...
[12:14] <frchris> Hey there Daughain solved the problem and works beautifully
[12:15] <faileas> ^^
[12:15] <faileas> what did you do?
[12:15] <Daughain> frchris:  Cool...Eventualy I wil get around to doing it. =)
[12:16] <frchris> used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and then it allows you to select which manager you wish to use
[12:16] <faileas> ahh k
[12:16] <frchris> problem solved :-)
[12:16] <frchris> thanks guys
[12:16] <Daughain> Well, since I'm already in ter,..... =)
[12:16] <frchris> loving my new linux universe!!!
[12:16] <Daughain> Np, frchris
[12:16] <matty3269> Mornin all :-)
[12:17] <Daughain> HOw many workspaces you using?
[12:17] <Daughain> Morning, matty3269
[12:18] <Daughain> faileas: My ram hog is kde.
[12:18] <frchris> well off to play thanks again Daughain and faileas
[12:19] <memenode> wtf.. "Protocol not supported sftp"
[12:19] <memenode> says konq
[12:19] <Daughain> Who uses konq?
[12:19] <happy> memenode: fish?
[12:19] <happy> Daughain: eh hem
[12:20] <memenode> I've always used sftp
[12:20] <memenode> it's on KDE4.4
[12:20] <memenode> fish works..
[12:21] <happy> Daughain: old konq > new konq + dolphin
[12:22] <Daughain> happy: Dont like dolphin, dont like konqueror.
[12:22] <happy> lol
[12:22] <memenode> I like dolphin :P
[12:22] <memenode> when everything works
[12:22] <memenode> which often doesn't..
[12:22] <Daughain> Its ok, but I prefered the nautilus gui
[12:22] <memenode> cause KDE4 is still buggy
[12:22] <soee> hey guys when can we expect kde 4.4 rc1 in updates ?
[12:23] <Daughain> So I keep discovering....
[12:23] <Daughain> So far nothing to make me give up kde, though.
[12:23] <happy> Daughain: same here
[12:23] <memenode> yeah.. that was back on 4.1 and earlier :P
[12:23] <memenode> that was giving up worthy
[12:24] <Daughain> Ok, back to my editing.
[12:30] <Daughain> faileas:  Not so sure vnstats wll work for me....That grid layout makes it impossible for me to translate it how I need.
[12:41] <Daughain> Anyone know a non-graphical commandline app to view network traffic?
[12:41] <Vroomfondle> bwm will give you a rough overview
[12:42] <Daughain> Is that a non-graphical command line interface?
[12:42] <Daughain> And ascii counts as graphical.
[12:43] <Vroomfondle> oh.
[12:43] <Vroomfondle> tcpdump, then ;)
[12:43] <memenode> omg what idiot thought it's a good idea to make middle click copying be the same as ctrl-v copying.. what a huge usability regress
[12:43] <memenode> *ctrl-c
[12:43] <Daughain> memenode: lol
[12:43] <Daughain> Vroomfondle: OK, lemme try that and see what I get,
[12:44] <Daughain> Vroomfondle:  "no suitable device found" I thin I missed something there.
[12:44]  * Vroomfondle looks at OpenSUSE and notes that it distinguishes middle-click from ctrl-c/v, so can't be a KDE4 thing
[12:44] <memenode> now just selecting text is like you did ctrl-c, previously though it was selecting was pasted with middle click and ctrl-v was pasting only what you copied via ctrl-c
[12:44] <Vroomfondle> Daughain: yeah, IIRC you have to give it a network device e.g. /dev/eth0
[12:45]  * Daughain nods.../
[12:45] <Vroomfondle> memenode: probably configurable in System Settings?
[12:45] <memenode> looking now..
[12:51] <Daughain> OK, so much for that. Tired of searching for wlan0.
[12:52] <Daughain> Time for breakfast and a movie.
[12:56] <soee> im using oss for my sound card but when i try to play sound in my java program i get some errors with Pulse Audio, any idea how set oss of java ?
[13:26] <files22> NEW TORRENT SEARCH SITE http://Torrentpirates.org
[13:43] <erghezi> why google desktop dont index any file?
[13:44] <erghezi> Also, I can not enter to google desktop prefrences.
[13:49] <AlexZion> hi everyone, how can I set up my grub2 with acpi=off and noapic options ?
[13:49] <erghezi> AlexZion: #grub
[13:50] <AlexZion> erghezi: grub2 in Kubuntu karmic .....
[13:50] <erghezi> AlexZion: not important:D
[13:51] <AlexZion> I mean , should I edit the /etc/default/grub, or something else ?
[13:54] <AlexZion> erghezi: could you help me please .....
[13:55] <erghezi> AlexZion: I have a problem with GRUB too:D
[13:55] <AlexZion> ok , so we are on the same trouble ...
[13:56] <erghezi> AlexZion: i want to see theme on grub2
[13:56] <erghezi> AlexZion: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/make-grub-themes-beautiful-look-nicer.html
[13:56] <fujimitsu> AlexZion: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi=off" in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub or grub-mkconfig again
[13:57] <fujimitsu> i was told this at #grub
[13:57] <AlexZion> ahh ok , so after I change the file , I forgot to update the grub , that's why it didn't works ....
[13:57] <erghezi> fujimitsu: :D
[13:57] <AlexZion> I'll try again , thanks fujimitsu
[14:10] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:14] <nabil> has anyone had success in printing to HP laserjet 1600 using kubuntu 9.10
[14:16] <lear> ку
[14:17] <fire`lalala> nabil: I'm using a laserjet cp2025dn without problems
[14:17] <RiotingPacifist> nabil: not sure about the speific model but as long as i've had hpjip installed (and cups and all that) my hp inkjet has been fine, do you have hplip installed?
[14:18] <AlexZion> how can I remove grub2 from a partition ?
[14:18] <RiotingPacifist> how long till 4.4 rc1 is ready and packaged for the ppas?
[14:18] <RiotingPacifist> AlexZion: uninstalling grub2 should do it, but it may leave your system unbootable
[14:19] <fujimitsu> AlexZion: #grub is more appropriate for grub related questions
[14:19] <AlexZion> my problem is that trying to set it up , I install it in another partition for a mistake
[14:19] <lear> ау
[14:19] <AlexZion> ok , I'll try it
[14:22] <RiotingPacifist> AlexZion: in that case i think what you need to do is install it properly where you want it, then just remove it from the wrong partition when it's unused
[14:31] <JuJuBee_> I tried installing msttcorefonts yesterday but I think it did not work. Now when I try to install anything using apt-get it seems like it is trying to re-install msttcorefonts. How do i get this to stop.  this is the output anytime I use apt-get... http://paste.ubuntu.com/353492/
[14:37] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, remove the msfonts or try to repair
[14:40] <JuJuBee_> ilumi: how ?  I tried to apt-get remove msttcorefonts but it still happens
[14:41] <fujimitsu> is there a download source for it in your sources.list?
[14:42] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, try sudo apt-get -f remove purge msttcorefonts
[14:42] <JuJuBee_> fujimitsu: not sure... what should I look for?
[14:42] <JuJuBee_> I will try that
[14:43] <JuJuBee_> ilumi: without the remove...
[14:43] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, why
[14:43] <ilumi> you need to remove if you going to purge
[14:43] <JuJuBee_> it did not work as remove purge
[14:44] <ilumi> try remove -purge
[14:44] <Daughain> That was interesting....
[14:44] <fujimitsu> run kpackagekit > settings > edit software sources  - if there is one in there for those fonts, removing it might help
[14:44] <Daughain> Think I need to reboot.
[14:44] <Daughain> Just need to figure out how. =)
[14:44] <JuJuBee_> E: Command line option 'p' [from -purge] is not known.
[14:45] <ilumi> Daughain, still?
[14:46] <JuJuBee_> fujimitsu: doesn't look like anything there for msfonts
[14:46] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, maybe it's already removed
[14:47] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, do aptitude show msttcorefonts     , see what is says
[14:47] <fujimitsu> JuJuBee_: have you logged out since you first removed the fonts?
[14:47] <RiotingPacifist> just jumpinh half-way through here, but have you tried firing up aptitude as it has nice dependancy resolution principles
[14:47] <tsimpson> if a package is already removed (but not purged) you need to use dpkg: sudo dpkg --purge msttcorefonts
[14:48] <RiotingPacifist> *capabilities
[14:48] <JuJuBee_> fujimitsu: no
[14:48] <fujimitsu> i'd try logging out for good measure
[14:48] <JuJuBee_> fujimitsu: will do
[14:49] <fujimitsu> maybe something needs resetting . logging might do it
[14:50] <JuJuBee_> fujimitsu: no joy... I logged out and back in and tried installing something and at end it goes through the fonts again...
[14:51] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, do aptitude show msttcorefonts     , see what is says
[14:51] <JuJuBee_> ilumi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/353501/
[14:52] <RiotingPacifist> JuJuBee_: just fire up aptitude and see if it offers a good fix (sudo aptitude)
[14:53] <ilumi> JuJuBee_, well, its no longer installed
[14:53] <ilumi> so do the sudo dpkg --purge msttcorefonts
[14:55] <JuJuBee_> I purrged the ttf-mscorefonts-installer and that seems to have fixed it.  Thanks to both
[14:57] <BluesKaj> "fire up aptitude" , wow ,now there's a propellerhead expression :)
[15:00] <RiotingPacifist> what aptitude lacks in super cow powers it makes up for in it's tui that offers advanced apt features without needed to do them the hard way.
[15:01] <BluesKaj>  I use aptitude as well, but never heard it referred to like some barbeque :)
[15:07] <zegenie> soooo, how long before we have 4.4 RC1 packages available? :)
[15:10] <islington> zegenie: I joined to ask just that, the beta2 packages built remarkably quickly
[15:10] <tsimpson> as soon as they get packages made, built, and tested :)
[15:16] <BluesKaj> zegenie, someone mentioned yestrday that kde 4.4 RC  is delayed by 2 weeks...could be a rumour
[15:16] <zegenie> BluesKaj: it's not, it's out today
[15:16] <zegenie> there's a second RC coming out jan 20th, which was originally unplanned IIRC, but the RC release announcement is already out on kde.org
[15:16] <zegenie> tsimpson: thanks, that means absolutely nothing :)
[15:17] <tsimpson> zegenie: because there is no answer to your question :)
[15:17] <tsimpson> "it'll be ready when it's ready" is the only answer anyone can give
[15:17] <zegenie> good thing I also lurk in -devel then, so I could get an answer from someone that actually has something to do with it :)
[15:17] <zegenie> and not just someone who doesn't know
[15:18] <zegenie> "I don't know" is also a perfectly fine answer if you don't
[15:18] <zegenie> tho most people tend not to say anything if they don't know
[15:18] <zegenie> ;)
[15:18]  * tsimpson knows more than you know he knows
[15:19] <islington> zegenie: go take a look at the repo where the packages are building
[15:20] <arnaud__> test
[15:20] <tsimpson> Error: no error
[15:23] <zegenie> islington: I would if it showed anything ;)
[15:41] <RiotingPacifist> 4.4rc1 will probably be ready in ~12hrs
[15:43] <RiotingPacifist> so short of any hiccups it should be available by tomorrow
[15:44] <RiotingPacifist> :s how can you have a planned rc2? rc
[15:45] <RiotingPacifist> rcs >1 should always be unplanned but allowed for
[15:45] <human> Gentlemen!
[15:45] <human> I think, the repository is not working now!
[15:45] <human> I cannot get packages!
[15:46] <RiotingPacifist> human: it's working for me
[15:46] <human> I type sudo apt-get install kstars
[15:47] <human> and got "E: could not find package"
[15:47] <genii> !info kstars
[15:48] <genii> human: Did you do already the sudo apt-get update?
[15:48] <RiotingPacifist> human: actually i'm using the gb mirror, maybe the us mirror is down but ubuntu.com is doing fine
[15:49] <Nete> How do you get knetwork to run on startup
[15:49] <human> what?
[15:49] <human> I have reset my Xorg
[15:49] <RiotingPacifist> Nete:  system-settings has an autostart section add it to that
[15:50] <RiotingPacifist> human: before installing software you have to run apt-get update
[15:50] <arnaldo> can anyone help me to set my wireless in kubuntu
[15:50] <human> sudo apt-get update?
[15:50] <genii> human: sudo apt-get update                will get the list from servers of what there is to install, yes
[15:50] <Nete> RiotingPacifist: What category is it under?
[15:50] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: do you know what chipset you have? if not pastebin lspci
[15:51] <RiotingPacifist> Nete: advanced>advanced user settings
[15:51] <RiotingPacifist> !pastebin
 I am receiving the localization packages now
[15:52] <human> the system was broken when I have done it last time...
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
[15:52] <arnaldo> 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
[15:52] <FloodBotK1> arnaldo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <human> I have installed Kubuntu without sudo apt-get update a week ago
[15:53] <human> and could install kstars
[15:53] <arnaldo> ok
[15:54] <human> Oh! I can install kstars!!! Thanks!!!!
[15:56] <RiotingPacifist> !pastebin > arnaldo
[15:57] <RiotingPacifist> you got cut off before i saw your chipset
[15:58] <RiotingPacifist> human: package lists change over time, if your package list is old you can't install software that has changed since your packagelist was created
[15:59] <human> I have installed it successfully a week ago, and now I have package conflict with mysql-server5.0
[15:59] <RiotingPacifist> human: run sudo aptitude and look at fixes then pick one
[16:00] <arnaldo> sorry about it
[16:00] <vishesh> Hi. I want to include the the backports repository in order to get the latest updates. Could some one tell me what line to add. I'm a little confused.
[16:00] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: no problem but if i can't help you until you pastebin your lspci output
[16:00] <human> OK I'll do it now . I want to install "mysql-server-5.0" but system does not allow install it... It worked a week ago... I wonder)))
[16:01] <arnaldo> RiotingPacifist how can  I send you the chipset details?
[16:01] <RiotingPacifist> !pastebin
[16:01] <RiotingPacifist> ^copy and paste it to pastebin then post a link to the channel
[16:01] <arnaldo> ok
[16:02] <vishesh> Uhm anyone? Should I include the launchpad ppa or karmic-backports?
[16:02] <arnaldo> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3b268d0
[16:03] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: do you have a usb wireless chip, the lspci output doesn't have any wireless chips
[16:03] <human> Oh, I have to install mysql-server-5.1 instead of mysql-server-5.0))))) And no conflicts
[16:03] <human> the mysql-server-5.0 is obsolete?
[16:04] <human> d
[16:04] <EagleScreen> vishesh: it is not necessary to use the backports
[16:04] <RiotingPacifist> vishesh: i'm not 100% sure but i think karmic-backports is what you want, unless you want to be running beta software
[16:05] <EagleScreen> vishesh: packages in backports sometimes break things in the system
[16:05] <arnaldo> Rio- this is very old machine and I got the usb antenna to have wireless
[16:05] <vishesh> Yea. I know that. But I want to get ktorrent's latest version.
[16:05] <vishesh> Is their any other way? Without possibly breaking the system?
[16:05] <EagleScreen> vishesh: what version do you want?
[16:05] <arnaldo> it was working but now is kind of challege to make it works
[16:05] <iconmefisto> vishesh: you can do it easily in kpackagekit
[16:06] <vishesh> I have 3.2. I wanted 3.3. How?
[16:06] <Nete> RiotingPacifist: Thanks I got it....
[16:06] <iconmefisto> vishesh: in kpackagekit, go to settings, updates tab, "unsupported updates" is backports
[16:07] <BluesKaj> zeltak, got a site that has the whole RC 4.4 package not just individual apps etc ?
[16:07] <RiotingPacifist> vishesh: i don't think either backports or the ppa have 3.3, ktorrent is not part of kde
[16:07] <vishesh> iconmefisto: Yea. I got that. I meant is their any way to install the latest kTorrent without possible breaking the system or should I just take the leap?
[16:08] <vishesh> RiotingPacifist: Really?
[16:08] <Novice> I keep getting this http://pastebin.com/m3c1d3c79 error message whilr trying to install ati Catalyst any clues what I may be doing wrong?
[16:08] <EagleScreen> vishesh: it may be possible
[16:08] <arnaldo> ???
[16:09] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: i'm not sure about usb wireless
[16:09] <RiotingPacifist> !wireless
[16:09] <BluesKaj> oops wrong nick zeltak , sorry :p
[16:09] <genii> Novice: You're calling the shell script without arguments. Hangon a minut
[16:09] <RiotingPacifist> vishesh: yeah ktorrent isn't part of the main kde bulk, i have the 4.4beta2 installed but my ktorrent is still 3.2
[16:10] <EagleScreen> vishesh: would u like to try ktorrent 4.0~beta ?
[16:10] <vishesh> RiotingPacifist: Damn. I'll look for the lanchpad repository. Maybe .. I'm not too keen about compiling from source.
[16:10] <genii> Novice: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually                     if you have different than "jaunty" put that name in the command
[16:11] <Novice> genii: thx
[16:11] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: if you run lsusb you might be able to get the chipset of the usb pen that will help, but i can't be much use past that
[16:11] <genii> Novice: Yer welcome
[16:11] <EagleScreen> vishesh: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ktorrent
[16:12] <Pici> !nickspam > dendrobates
[16:12] <EagleScreen> vishesh, this is for 3.3.2 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ktorrent
[16:13] <vishesh> @EagleScreen : Thanks. I was still going through the launchpad page.
[16:13] <SkyBon> hi
[16:13] <arnaldo>  Rio pls look at ithttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m45471a7a
[16:13] <SkyBon> looks like RC1 has come out
[16:13] <arnaldo> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m45471a7a
[16:14] <SkyBon> when will packages be available?
[16:14] <RiotingPacifist> vishesh: https://launchpad.net/~mieszkoslusarczyk/+archive/kde-extras-snapshots https://launchpad.net/~baudm/+archive/backports?field.series_filter=karmic offer it for karmic
[16:14] <RiotingPacifist> SkyBon: tomorow
[16:14] <EagleScreen> vishesh: take care, newer packages for ktorrent in the beta backports of kubuntu PPA, may break your system because it depends on KDE 4.4beta2 and Qt4.6
[16:15] <SkyBon> oh damn great
[16:15] <SkyBon> kubuntu always lags behind openSUSE ((((
[16:15] <EagleScreen> SkyBon: yes, in all expect package management
[16:15] <vishesh> @EagleScreen : Thanks for the warning. I'm installing the backports as well. Worst case scenario ..I'll have to file a couple of bug reports, and use GNOME for a while.
[16:15] <RiotingPacifist> SkyBon: well probably in about 10hrs but definatly by tomorow
[16:16] <RiotingPacifist> SkyBon: if you love openSUSE so much why don't you marry it?
[16:16] <SkyBon> heh
[16:16] <SkyBon> buggy and bloated
[16:18] <arnaldo> ??
[16:18] <RiotingPacifist> vishesh: if you use aptitude or apt pinning or some of the guis you can roll back to previous versions of packages
[16:18] <arnaldo> no solution?
[16:18] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo: you have a Linksys chip but i don't know much about usb-wirelss, try the forums or google
[16:19] <RiotingPacifist> arnaldo:  the line "1737:0077 Linksys" will probably help on google
[16:21] <arnaldo> let me try
[16:21] <RiotingPacifist> !wireless > arnaldo might also help
[16:21] <SkyBon> @RiotingPacifist, but how can he roll back if not from package cache?
[16:22] <RiotingPacifist> SkyBon: well if hes enabeling the ppa the old packages will still be in the official repos
[16:22] <SkyBon> ah ok
[16:23] <spacitymedic> Hello! I need some help with the audio on my computer... my mic is not being recognized... any ideas?
[16:23] <SkyBon> but only if it doesn't depend on another ppa packages...
[16:23] <RiotingPacifist> SkyBon: aptitude / pinning / gui's can handle that for you
[16:24] <EagleScreen> KDE 4.4 RC1 will be uploaded to Beta PPA soon
[16:24] <SkyBon> spacitymedic, version of Kubuntu and KDE?
[16:25] <spacitymedic> 9.1 xubuntu
[16:25] <spacitymedic> err... i'm in the wrong channel right?
[16:25] <SkyBon> yep
[16:26] <SkyBon> let #xubuntu be with you ;)
[16:27] <spacitymedic> ah. ok.
[16:27] <spacitymedic>  how do i get to where ever it is I need to be?
[16:27] <SkyBon> just go to channel #xubuntu
[16:28] <SkyBon> you will get community support for Xubuntu and XFCE there
[16:29] <Icari|mac> i have a broadcom wired and wireless card [seperate cards] and after my internet died this morning it seems that i cant get an ip address on wireless, and on wired the system is not even finding that the cord is connected, any suggestions?
[16:30] <SkyBon> ver Kubuntu, KDE?
[16:30] <spacitymedic> Hey thanks a million
[16:30] <spacitymedic> !!
[16:30] <Icari|mac> 9.10
[16:30] <Icari|mac> using wicd
[16:30] <Icari|mac> kde 4
[16:30] <Icari|mac> desktop
[16:31] <SkyBon> ok, ok
[16:31] <SkyBon> any msgs from knetworkmanager?
[16:31] <Icari|mac> wicd cant get ip address
[16:32] <Icari|mac> i was trying to use knetworkmanager and i could not connect at all, wicd would connect atleast
[16:32] <SkyBon> installed anything lately?
[16:32] <Icari|mac> there was an update this morning, i dont know what was in it
[16:32] <SkyBon> so...
[16:33] <Icari|mac> but i dont think the update finished downloading
[16:33] <SkyBon> downloading or installing? Oo
[16:33] <Icari|mac> "unable to get ip address" is the error i get from wifi
[16:33] <Icari|mac> it was downloading then the system froze, so i am not sure how far it got
[16:34] <SkyBon> at least it didn't finish downloading, right?
[16:34] <Icari|mac> i dont think so
[16:34] <SkyBon> well
[16:34] <Icari|mac> sudo dpkg --configure -a is not showing any output
[16:35] <SkyBon> aptitude?
[16:35] <Icari|mac> sudo ifup eth0 outputs "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[16:35] <Daughain> Hey, I have a shutdown option now.
[16:35] <Icari|mac> it was automatic notification and i just installed it
[16:35] <Icari|mac> or told it to do so
[16:35] <SkyBon> hmmm ok
[16:36] <SkyBon> try aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade and we'll see if the problem vanishes
[16:36] <SkyBon> just because it could be broken packages as well
[16:37] <Icari|mac> even if i have NO internet access? wired is not even connecting for some reason
[16:37] <Icari|mac> wired connection is not showing up in wicd
[16:37] <SkyBon> hmmm
[16:37] <SkyBon> are you now here from another pc?
[16:37] <SkyBon> or just another os?
[16:37] <Icari|mac> my macbook
[16:37] <SkyBon> ah alright
[16:38] <SkyBon> do you have livecd?
[16:39] <Icari|mac> in live cd the network connected fine last week when i had a problem with wifi, but wired was working fine then
[16:39] <SkyBon> well, try now
[16:39] <SkyBon> maybe it is not an os issue
[16:39] <Icari|mac> well the broadcom restricted drivers will not install in live cd, but i can test wired network
[16:40] <SkyBon> at least this
[16:40] <Icari|mac> ok
[16:40] <SkyBon> as 2 problems appeared simultaneously
[16:41] <SkyBon> they are at least connected to each other
[16:41] <Icari|mac> i am not sure few days ago wifi worked when wired was not found
[16:41] <SkyBon> hmm
[16:42] <SkyBon> cords?
[16:42] <Daughain> Reboot router?
[16:42] <Icari|mac> done a few times today
[16:43] <SkyBon> maybe check cords connection?
[16:43] <SkyBon> too loose or smth like that
[16:43] <Icari|mac> the wired network lights dont appear to be on when the wired network cord is plugged in
[16:44] <Icari|mac> now in live cd i am seeing the lights on, around the network cord
[16:44] <SkyBon> internet ok?
[16:45] <Icari|mac> i am checking
[16:46] <EagleScreen> Icari|mac: I also use Broadcom Wifi
[16:46] <Icari|mac> yes wired is working in livecd
[16:46] <Icari|mac> nice
[16:46] <SkyBon> alright
[16:47] <SkyBon> it is a kubuntu issue
[16:47] <EagleScreen> Icari|mac: do you want to use it in Live CD? karmic?
[16:47] <SkyBon> no
[16:47] <SkyBon> he just checked hardware
[16:47] <Icari|mac> she
[16:47] <SkyBon> oh sorry :)
[16:47]  * Daughain chuckles.
[16:48] <SkyBon> *she just checked hardware
[16:48] <Daughain> Icari, not Icarus...??
[16:48] <Icari|mac> just Icari
[16:48] <SkyBon> let's boot back to kubuntu
[16:48] <Icari|mac> i am
[16:50] <Icari|mac> wired network is not being found in wicd
[16:50] <Icari|mac> on reboot
[16:50] <Icari|mac> and wireless is not getting an ip address
[16:51] <SkyBon> access to router?
[16:51] <Icari|mac> yea
[16:51] <Icari|mac> i am on wireless on my macbook
[16:52] <SkyBon> i mean access from desktop pc
[16:52] <SkyBon> a.k.a. kubuntu pc
[16:52] <Icari|mac> no it is not connecting to the internet in anyway, no network access
[16:52] <Icari|mac> wired is not found and wireless is not getting ip address
[16:52] <Icari|mac> but the wifi was fine this morning
[16:53] <Icari|mac> but i have had this ip address problem before, only fix was a reinstall of the os :(
[16:54] <SkyBon> hmmm
[16:54] <Icari|mac> when i do ifconfig, i see eth0 eth2 eth2:avahi and lo is that normal?
[16:54] <Icari|mac> where eth0 is wifed and eth2 is wifi
[16:54] <SkyBon> should bbe
[16:54] <Icari|mac> what is eth2:avahi?
[16:55] <DexterF_> hi
[16:56] <DexterF_> im on a 9.04 machine, owner says no updates in weeks. indeed manually updating from konsole pulled a lot of stuff but in systray no notifier showed up. did before.
[16:56] <DexterF_> what happened? how do I get notified of updates?
[16:57] <SkyBon> @IcariImac this means that eth2 runs via avahi
[16:57] <SkyBon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software)
[16:57] <Icari|mac> i have not seen that before
[16:58] <EagleScreen> DexterF_: check the config in Kpackagekit -> Configuration -> Updates or so
[16:59] <SkyBon> "i discovered that i have internet connection when there's no etho:avahi in the device list in network."
[16:59] <Icari|mac> how do i make it go away?
[17:00] <Icari|mac> i like using linux but this is making me want to go back to windoze :(
[17:03] <SkyBon> well
[17:04] <DexterF_> was there a inconsistency in the 9.04 mirror lately? got a kde4.2.2 package that can't be installed, no further reason
[17:04] <BluesKaj> time for my daily consitution/walk ...bbl
[17:05] <EagleScreen> DexterF_: what happens whith that package, any error message?
[17:05] <Icari|mac> no one has any other ideas/suggestions?
[17:05] <SkyBon> @IcariImac http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5766177&postcount=6
[17:05] <Icari|mac> "connection failed: unable to get IP addres"
[17:06] <SkyBon> tried anything like that in kubuntu?
[17:06] <Icari|mac> i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3013656&postcount=2 and no luck
[17:09] <SkyBon> actually the best thing here is to reinstall
[17:09] <SkyBon> just because I think it is related to a broken update installation
[17:09] <Icari|mac> i have had this machine for about 1.5 weeks and i have reinstalled/installed 2 times
[17:10] <SkyBon> what about the last time?
[17:10] <SkyBon> everything was the same?
[17:10] <Icari|mac> last time was one week ago
[17:10] <Icari|mac> when i got the wifi working the first time
[17:11] <SkyBon> did you have the same issue?
[17:12] <Icari|mac> yes, network was not connecting but wired network atleast worked then
[17:12] <SkyBon> ****
[17:13] <Icari|mac> maybe i should try changing my wifi channel, i dont know but worth trying i guess
[17:13] <SkyBon> everything is worth trying actually
[17:13] <Icari|mac> let me try that and i will return
[17:13] <SkyBon> okok
[17:18] <Icari|mac> no luck with changing the channel on the router
[17:20] <SkyBon> well
[17:20] <SkyBon> EagleScreen, are you here?
[17:21] <Icari|mac> i was here last friday talking with Jason__ when we got it working
[17:21] <SkyBon> I don't know much about Broadcom WiFi
[17:22] <SkyBon> we need someone who has experienced Broadcom WiFi troubleshooting
[17:22] <SkyBon> Icari, consider leaving a note at Ubuntu Forums, ok?
[17:23] <Buddha> hi
[17:23] <SkyBon> hi
[17:23] <Icari|mac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8604486#post8604486 was posted last friday by Jason__
[17:25] <Buddha> alcohol 52?
[17:25] <SkyBon> and it looks like that Broadcom is to blame...
[17:25] <Buddha> are u there?
[17:25] <SkyBon> but nvm
[17:26] <SkyBon> Icari, describe your issue at forums, hope smb will help...
[17:26] <Icari|mac> ok
[17:27] <devilMCacid> hey there. just wanted to reconfigure the x of my kub. 910 with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , nothing happended
[17:28] <devilMCacid> thought sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would work for sure but no window opens
[17:30] <human> how can I get sound in Youtube when I use Konqueror?
[17:32] <human> I could get in Firefox only when I use Gnome, but how to do it in Kubuntu?
[17:34] <human> Does anybody know that?
[17:36] <iconmefisto_> human: is it working in firefox?
[17:37] <human> only if I use GNOME, not in KDE...
[17:38] <iconmefisto_> how did you install flash plugin?
[17:39] <soee> human: u dont have sound in any browser ?
[17:40] <daly> hola
[17:44] <Guest47564> hello people i have some problem with some c code. can someone help me?
[17:48] <Icari|mac> looks like this morning in the updates that got downloaded/installed was a new kernel
[17:48] <human> no
[17:48] <human> I do not have
[17:48] <human> I'll reboot now
[17:49] <Icari|mac> the wifi does not work even with the old kernel
[17:50] <ngong_> upgraded to 9.10, boot stucks, any good advice other than: "save date and reinstall from sratch"?
[17:51] <ngong_> date <- data
[17:52] <Kolia> ngong_: when does it get stucked?
[17:52] <ngong_> Kolia: 1 get 3 messages:
[17:53] <alexb1> hello; I have a wacom bamboo tablet and I can't make it work on kubuntu karmic. Tried already http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7234134&postcount=176
[17:53] <ngong_> 1. usb_id[308]: unable to access '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.3/usb5/5-2
[17:54] <ngong_> 2. init: ureadahead main process (329) terminated with status 5
[17:54] <Icari|mac> i found out why wired network was not working, i had it hidden in wicd
[17:54] <ngong_> 3. fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16 \n /dev/sda1: clean, ....
[17:55] <ngong_> Kolia: than nothing, I can reboot with ctrl-alt-del
[17:58] <ngong_> google reports lots messages about getting stuck while upgrading to 9.10, however I did not find any solution or advice how to proceed
[17:59] <iconmefisto_> ngong_: tried booting older kernels?
[18:00] <ilumi> ngong_, when it gets stuck, whats on the screen
[18:02] <alexb1> the tablet doesn't appear on xsetwacom list
[18:03] <ngong_> iconmefisto_: pressing esc, I can see only 9.04, booting the newest .17 leads to this problem
[18:05] <iconmefisto_> ngong_: so you can boot from other kernels? or not?
[18:05] <ngong_> iconmefisto_: nope
[18:05] <ngong_> iconmefisto_: none is working, tried two
[18:07] <ngong_> ilumi: iconmefisto_: kubuntu welcome goes and than some messages: (1) unable to access some usb, (2) init: ureadahead main process (336) terminated with status 5, (3) fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16 ... clean ...
[18:08] <ilumi> ngong_, try to boot in "safe mode"
[18:09] <ilumi> ngong_, i guess you need to press esc when grub starts
[18:09] <ilumi> ngong_, to get the menu
[18:09] <ngong_> ilumi: you main (recovery mode) did so, same result
[18:10] <ngong_> ilumi: with lots of more messages, seems the disk has a problem
[18:11] <ilumi> ngong_, yeah, your best option is to start from scratch
[18:11] <ngong_> ilumi: eg.: ... name="/usr/sbin/tcpdump" name2="default" pid=326,
[18:11] <ilumi> ngong_, upgrading sucks
[18:12] <ngong_> ilumi: does this tell that the disk has a problem?
[18:12] <ilumi> ngong_, you can get into console?
[18:12] <ngong_> ilumi: no
[18:12] <ngong_> I can ctrl-alt-del to reboot
[18:13] <ilumi> ngong_, it doesnt look like a harddrive problem
[18:14] <ilumi> ngong_, how long do you wait before restart?
[18:14] <ngong_> ilumi: the longest was half an hour
[18:15] <ilumi> ngong_, ok, yeah it's messed up
[18:15] <ngong_> ilumi: but there is no disk access while waiting
[18:15] <ngong_> ilumi: ok, firstly I'll save the data with another computer
[18:15] <Fazer2> resolution on my laptop has changed to 1024x768, how can I change it to other? there is no other proper option in Screen settings, only 800x600
[18:16] <ilumi> ngong_, you mean you made a backup?
[18:16] <iconmefisto_> ngong_: maybe run fsck on your partitions from a livecd
[18:17] <ngong_> iconmefisto_: ok
[18:20] <BuGo_laptop> i am using ubuntu but i want to set theme for KDE applications. how can i do that?
[18:20] <Izinucs> Other than kmymoney is there anther program that also has invoicing? hopefully kde oriented
[18:21] <BuGo_laptop> any suggestions?
[18:22] <Fazer2> BuGo_laptop: you have to install gtk-engines
[18:22] <BuGo_laptop> and then?
[18:22] <Fazer2> BuGo_laptop: and then in Preferences change Qt Settings to use proper engine
[18:24] <Nete> Hello, When I start my laptop up it used to connect automatically to the internet but now it doesn't. I put Knetworkmanager to run on startup but it didn't. Any suggestions?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Nete, have you configured network-manager options?
[18:28] <Nete> BluesKaj: I have it set to automatically connect to a certain network
[18:28] <BluesKaj> auto connect but with what security options ?
[18:30] <Nete> BluesKaj: None
[18:30] <Nete> No security
[18:30] <javi> hola
[18:30] <javi> alguien me ayudaaaaaaaa
[18:30] <Kolia> !es |javi
[18:30] <javi> soy nuevo en esto  del ubuntu
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Nete, not a good idea , you should at least use wep encryption
[18:31] <Urthanhassen> tendrás más posibilidades si hablas en inglés
[18:31] <javi> gracias, pero mi inglkes es algo malo
[18:31] <Urthanhassen> entonces conectate a un canal como #kubuntu-es
[18:31] <Urthanhassen> o usa google para traducir (no recomendado)
[18:32] <javi> hols
[18:32] <BluesKaj> javi /join #kubuntu-es
[18:32] <Nete> BluesKaj: Do you mean as in passwording the wireless connection, or setting a password so I can't access it w/o authorization
[18:32] <javi> wenas a todos
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Nete, both
[18:32] <Urthanhassen> javi escribe lo que dice BluesKaj
[18:33] <javi> nete, both
[18:33] <javi> hola
[18:33] <BluesKaj> Urthanhassen ,  En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[18:34] <Nete> BluesKaj: thank you for trying to help me, but will this fix the auto-connect to what it used to be?
[18:34] <Urthanhassen> I'm only help Javi to join
[18:34] <javi> alguien me ayuda con una tarjeta bradcom para poner en mo modo monitor
[18:35] <BluesKaj> Nete, dunno for sure but not using any encryption on a wifi setup is asking for ppl to hack into your data
[18:36] <BluesKaj> javi, can you take a hint ?  En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[18:36] <Urthanhassen> he gone
[18:36] <BluesKaj> good
[18:37] <Nete>  BluesKaj: We don't live in the city, and we know all our neighbors. Someone in my family has a Win2000 Laptop and it won't take encrypted networks....
[18:37] <BluesKaj> you can stay if you use english , Urthanhassen
[18:37] <Urthanhassen> i'm doing iy
[18:37] <Urthanhassen> it
[18:38] <Urthanhassen> only use spanish for help somebody
[18:38] <BluesKaj> Nete, my laptop showed the same probs so I switched to wicd
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | Nete
[18:39] <BluesKaj> Urthanhassen, then help ppl in spanish at #kubuntu-es , not here
[18:40] <Urthanhassen> Is any way to install Wireless Manager on Kubuntu Karmic Koala 9.10?
[18:40] <Urthanhassen> not all knows how to do it
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Urthanhassen, read my post above about wicd
[18:41] <Urthanhassen> where is it?
[18:41] <human> Help!! no Sound in youtube
[18:42] <BluesKaj> www.wicd.net, Nete , Urthanhassen
[18:42] <human> but I have the computer with available sound (Kubuntu). I can not remember what had I done at the second!
[18:42] <Nete>  BluesKaj: Ok, I installed it. If I just use a passphrase for accessing the wireless then no one can actually hack my laptop, right?
[18:42] <Nete> w/o the wireless pass
[18:43] <BluesKaj> right
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Nete, remove network-manager before trying to use wicd
[18:43] <Kolia> actually installing wicd will remove network-manager no?
[18:43] <Kolia> BluesKaj: ^^
[18:43] <Nete> BluesKaj: Can I just disable it
[18:44] <BluesKaj> always use a pw , there ppl driving around in vehicles checking for unsecure networks even rural areas , Nete
[18:45] <BluesKaj> try to disable network-manager , but I don't think it will work
[18:46] <Nete> BluesKaj: I'll make a pw for my connection to the modem. My Dad's Win2000 doesn't really have personal info, and it can't connect if there is a pw
[18:46] <BluesKaj> I trust my neighbours too, but it's not the neighbours you should worry about
[18:47] <Nete> Kolia: KNetworkManager was uninstalled when wicd was installed
[18:48] <Kolia> Nete: i thought so. Now everything should be OK for you :)
[18:48] <Kolia> wicd works perfectly
[18:49] <BluesKaj> Nete, it didn't uninstall on my sons laptop when I installed wicd on his , if it was installed with a package manager ,make sure you use that to uninstall
[18:49] <Kolia> BluesKaj: you install wicd with apt-get install?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> Kolia, no I downloaded the app from the site
[18:49] <Nete> BluesKaj: I used adept to install wicd and I just checked on Knetwork and it was not installed
[18:50] <Nete> Kolia: Thanks. I'm going to see if when I start up my computer if I connect automatically.
[18:50] <Nete> Bye for now
[18:51] <BluesKaj> the guy has no patience
[18:52] <BluesKaj> wicd has to be configured , it doesn't work out of the box
[18:53] <Nete> BluesKaj, Kolia, I'm back and the connection was automatic! Thanks
[18:54] <Nete> wicd rules
[18:54] <BluesKaj> did you setup a pw ?
[18:54] <Nete> BluesKaj: No
[18:54]  * BluesKaj shakes his head
[18:55] <Nete> BluesKaj: I'll have to think of something 128 chars though, and that might take a while
[18:55] <Nete> BluesKaj: of course Kwallet takes care of that
[18:55] <Nete> BluesKaj: I'll have one generated
[18:55] <BluesKaj> no not necessary just think of a phrase in your life history that you won't forget
[18:56] <Nete> BluesKaj: It doesn't have to be 128 chars?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> no
[18:56] <Nete> oh
[18:56] <BluesKaj> 128 is the digital encryption
[18:56] <Nete> BluesKaj: What if I don't have a life history
[18:56] <BluesKaj> hehe
[18:58] <Nete> hmm...Year 1? No. Year 2? No. Year 3? No. Year 8? No. Year 11? No. Year 15? No.
[18:58] <Kolia> BluesKaj: when you install wicd from apt-get it removes automatically the network-manager
[18:59] <Nete> BluesKaj: seriously, though... Kwallet is going to remember any old thing I put
[18:59] <Nete> right?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> something that happened ...it doesn't matter what , as long as you can remember it letter for letter
[18:59] <BluesKaj> ans number
[18:59] <BluesKaj> and
[18:59] <BluesKaj> kwallet is evil , i don't trust it , but be my guest
[19:00] <BluesKaj> your passphrase is encrypted in wicd so no need for kwallet
[19:00] <Nete> BluesKaj: Ummm.... it was made by people like you...and me. it's open src isn't it? Should be to bad
[19:01] <Nete> BluesKaj: I shoot it the next time I see it pop up!
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Kolia, wicd should remove network manager with apt , yes i should have mentioned that. I've been using the app from the site because I transferred it to a USB stick for storage
[19:03] <Nete> Hello, Why does Windows slow down the more you use  it, and Linux speeds up?
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Nete, because it's windows and uses DLLs etc
[19:04] <BluesKaj> and needs defragging every week
[19:05] <Nete> BluesKaj: When I first stared Kubuntu it wasn't too fast... now after using it for a time, it is blazing! amazing!
[19:05] <Nete> faaast startups
[19:05] <Nete> gimp loads fast
[19:05] <BluesKaj> the devs are doing their best to make it fast,stable and reliable
[19:06] <BruceW> Hello is there anyway to get a hold of a old version of amarok?
[19:06] <BruceW> I liked how amarok was int Kubuntu Hardy Heron
[19:06] <BruceW> in
[19:06] <Nete> BluesKaj: nice
[19:08] <BruceW> Hello is there a way to get a hold of a old version of amarok?
[19:11] <Kolia> BruceW: some people did it, don't ask me how though :/
[19:11] <Kolia> BruceW: have you asked on #amarok?
[19:11] <marian> #kubuntu
[19:12] <adolfo> qualcuno mi puo aiutare? ho dei problemi a scarirare dalla rete IORC, sia con Konversation sia con xchat ed anche con Kvirc
[19:12] <BruceW> Kolia: no but I will do that now :)
[19:12] <BruceW> Kolia: I hate the new amarok :(
[19:12] <Pici> !it | adolfo
[19:12] <adolfo> excuse
[19:17] <coreyB> hey is there anyway to get gtk-recordmydesktop to record what i hear on my computer?
[19:19] <Peace-> coreyB: use recorditnow
[19:19] <Peace-> it's made in qt
[19:19] <Peace-> so for kubuntu
[19:20] <Peace-> or
[19:20] <Peace-> use this one
[19:20] <Peace-> http://cli-apps.org/content/show.php/arecordmydesktop?content=102911
[19:21] <coreyB> okie dokie thanks
[19:22] <Peace-> coreyB: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/recoditnow-screencast-kubuntu-9-10-kde4-series/
[19:22] <coreyB> wait
[19:22] <coreyB> so should i use the script of recorditnow?
[19:23] <Peace-> well arecordmydesktop creates better syncro video audio
[19:23] <Peace-> on my computer
[19:23] <Peace-> but if recordmydesktop working fine on your pc
[19:23] <Peace-> with nice audio you shoudl use only recorditnow
[19:23] <coreyB> okay man thanks mate :)
[19:24] <Peace-> np
[19:24] <marian> se
[19:25] <Peace-> coreyB: and arecordmydesktop was created by me xD
[19:28] <coreyB> O.O
[19:28] <coreyB> seriously? lol
[19:29] <Peace-> yea
[19:29] <Peace-> on my computer recordmydesktop doesn't work well on audio
[19:29] <Peace-> so i have fixed by myself
[19:29] <Peace-> using arecord  to record audio
[19:30] <Peace-> and recordmydesktop to record video
[19:30] <Bonster> try recorditnow
[19:30] <marian> set up
[19:30] <Peace-> no way man
[19:30] <soee> any inf when rc1 will be i repos?
[19:30] <human> hav
[19:30] <human> no sound
[19:31] <Bonster> RC1 is out?
[19:31] <Peace-> no the problem it's crappy audio
[19:31] <Peace-> that is a bug
[19:31] <soee> Bonster: yes kde 4.4 rc1
[19:32] <Bonster> soee, not for kubuntu tho
[19:32] <soee> Bonster: thats why im asking when do wee see it in repos
[19:32] <Bonster> Peace-, try the program recorditnow like i said b4, might be better
[19:32] <phoenixz> Im playing an mp3 with orpheus, command line mp3 player, it uses mpg123 to play the mp3's and the mpg123 is taking about 98% CPU on my dualcore 1.86GHz CPU.. if it cant get 90+%, it starts creating noise and skipping.. this is not normal, is it??
[19:33] <Peace-> Bonster: i am the one has said recorditnow
[19:33] <Peace-> Bonster: record it now uses recordmydekstop
[19:33] <Peace-> so it has tha bug too ...
[19:33] <phoenixz> Besides that, pulseaudio taking 50%... these values are nuts..
[19:33] <Peace-> i have spoken about that with the developer
[19:33] <Peace-> :D
[19:34] <Bonster> oh ppl had better luck with recorditnow then gtk-rmd
[19:34] <Peace-> Bonster: you should read what i have said to recorditnow developer on kde-apps
[19:35] <Peace-> Bonster: he said he will add arecod like audio recorder just for this situation...
[19:35] <Bonster> not sure usually gets tearing thats as much as i get when using gtk-rmd
[19:36] <Peace-> gtk.rmd it's only a gui
[19:36] <Peace-> like recorditnow
[19:36] <Peace-> the engine is always recordmydekstop
[19:36] <Peace-> .
[19:37] <Peace-> so a bug on recordmydekstop it's a bug for everyone if you use gtk.rmd or recorditnow
[19:37] <marian> nu stiu
[19:37] <Peace-> and this is the bug...
[19:37] <Peace-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/recordmydesktop/+bug/339648
[19:38] <Bonster> not really, my friend was using gtk it wasnt working for him, but recorditnow was very smooth , so there is a difference somehow
[19:38] <Peace-> you are a newbie
[19:38] <Bonster> im talking form experience
[19:38] <Peace-> i am talking like programmer
[19:39] <Peace-> ...
[19:39] <Bonster> not just codes or backends
[19:39] <Bonster> so then explain to me then why one works and the other doesnt
[19:39] <Bonster> if u say is the same backends
[19:39] <Peace-> mauybe 2 different audio card...
[19:39] <Bonster> same one
[19:40] <Peace-> different version...
[19:40] <Peace-> different settings?
[19:40] <Peace-> a lots of stuff you could get
[19:40] <Peace-> but recordmydekstop has a bug like i have posted before
[19:40] <Bonster> then like i said 2 different things
[19:41] <Peace-> stuff
[19:41] <Peace-> no time right now
[19:49] <craftyquack> does any one know how to install KDE 4.4 RC on KDE 4.3
[19:49] <craftyquack> i mean PPA for KDE 4.4 RC
[19:49] <Kolia> wait a few hours i guess?
[19:50] <craftyquack> hmmm
[19:50] <Bonster> did they fix the nepomuk search?
[19:52] <Kolia> Bonster: ?
[19:52] <Peace-> here nepomuck works
[19:52] <craftyquack> i don't know
[19:52] <shadeslayer> Peace-: :o
[19:52] <Peace-> just a little fix to do bu it works
[19:52] <shadeslayer> Peace-: on 4.4 beta 1?
[19:53] <Peace-> kde 4.3.4
[19:53] <Peace-> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/nepomuck-and-stringi-kubuntu-9-10-strigi-service-failed-to-initialize-most-likely-due-to-an-installation-problem/
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Peace-: ah that old problem ><
[19:53] <kriss3d> uhmm anyone here using virtualbox ? im having problems starting a machine
[19:53] <Peace-> ok :D
[19:53] <Peace-> kriss3d: which version ?
[19:53] <Peace-> 9.10?
[19:54] <kriss3d> it says 3.0.8 in the virtualbox version
[19:54] <kriss3d> OSE
[19:54] <Peace-> :) ok
[19:54] <kriss3d> when i try to start a machine it gives me the error of missing the kernel drivers.. and it tells me to install the Virtualbox-ose-source package
[19:55] <apparle> Peace-: but my RAM usage goes up slowly by 400MB when neopmunk is rnning
[19:55] <kriss3d> after doing so (via the kpackagemanager) it still gives me same error
[19:55] <Peace-> kriss3d: i guess you need to add the module on the kernel
[19:55] <Peace-> i try to remember
[19:56] <kriss3d> uhmm thats one of the things i havent ever done before.. at least i dont think i have
[19:56] <Peace-> kriss3d: have you upgraded ?
[19:56] <Peace-> or changed something in these days?
[19:56] <Peace-> lsmod | grep box
[19:56] <Bonster> anyone got this? http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9012/imageprw.jpg
[19:56] <kriss3d> hang on
[19:57] <Bonster> doesnt seems to have virtuoso in the repos
[19:57] <Peace-> Bonster: i think i have seen in some machine
[19:57] <Peace-> but i have not tested really well
[19:57] <kriss3d> Peace-:  doing a lsmod | grep box dont return anything
[19:57] <Peace-> kriss3d: yea you need of the module
[19:57] <Peace-> !virtualbox
[19:58] <Izinucs> Is there an installed or available tool to adjust the "tap" sensitivity of a laptop's touchpad?
[19:58] <kriss3d> ty
[19:58] <Bonster> get the vbox from the site is better
[19:58] <Kolia> Bonster: libvirtuoso? librdf?
[19:59] <Kolia> Bonster: libvirtuoso4, librdf0  Dunno if it will make the trick though.
[20:00] <kriss3d> Bonster:  well i just used the kpackagekit and got it from there
[20:00] <Peace-> kriss3d: try this sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[20:00] <Peace-> kriss3d: that could be enought
[20:00] <kriss3d> Peace-:  it doesnt return anything
[20:01] <Peace-> kriss3d: yea i know try to start virtualbxo
[20:01] <Bonster> Kolia, yea i dont got libvirtuoso, u have it in urs?
[20:02] <Kolia> Bonster: sorry i mixed it up with libsoprano4 :/
[20:02] <Kolia> no libvirtuoso
[20:02] <Kolia> Bonster: librdf installed?
[20:02] <Bonster> kriss3d, ppl usually use this vbox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:03] <Bonster> Kolia, yea i got that install
[20:03] <Guest94155> Helo
[20:03] <kriss3d> ty.. i was advised to add the repo first then try reinstalling..
[20:03] <kriss3d> aparently im missing some files which means a busted install
[20:04] <Kolia> Bonster: try asking on #kde
[20:04] <Guest94155> can I put my actual ubuntu ( with the programas etc...) on a ISO and install it into an other computer?
[20:04] <Bonster> Kolia, did they told me to go away
[20:04] <human_> I have local network with two kubuntu with apache+php+mysql and it works, but i cannot start sound on youtube at one of our comps
[20:04] <Kolia> Bonster: classic :)
[20:05] <Bonster> Kolia, yea im use to it
[20:05] <Kolia> well wait a bit, there must be someone able to help you
[20:05] <Izinucs> What happened to the ksynaptics tool for touchpad adjustments?  gsynaptics is still in main :(
[20:05] <Bonster> Kolia, does the search works for u tho?
[20:06] <Kolia> yep
[20:06] <Kolia> on 4.3.4 at least
[20:06] <Kolia> not checked in trunk
[20:14] <PerSeL> hello
[20:14] <PerSeL> I have a question
[20:14] <PerSeL> how do i install sh file?
[20:15] <Bonster> usually right click on it
[20:15] <Bonster> and allow executing
[20:16] <Bonster> then double click and it runs
[20:16] <PerSeL> ahh k
[20:16] <PerSeL> ;)
[20:17] <Bonster> same goes for other bin exe ..etc
[20:17] <Dekans> Bonster: exe are often widows binaries
[20:17] <Dekans> not linux
[20:17] <Bonster> yea i no
[20:17] <PerSeL> windows i know
[20:18] <PerSeL> i don't know kubuntu at all
[20:18] <PerSeL> :)
[20:18] <Bonster> but some requires permission also
[20:18] <PerSeL> guys what are the dif between the mind and kubuntu?
[20:18] <PerSeL> sry i mean mandvira
[20:19] <PerSeL> or it's mandvira or... lol
[20:19] <Bonster> man diva
[20:19] <PerSeL> i just know it isn't free
[20:19] <apparle> PerSeL: :D
[20:19] <PerSeL> but they both use kde
[20:20] <PerSeL> I just know that ubuntu is always updated from the server
[20:20] <Bonster> im guessing is debian/ red hat differences
[20:20] <PerSeL> well to be true I don't know them :)
[20:21] <Bonster> rpm vs deb
[20:21] <apparle> PerSeL: I read somewhere in a review its not that good...... the gui looks poor.... but I have not tried
[20:21] <Bonster> isnt OpenSuse the best KDE right now tho?
[20:22] <PerSeL> i just ubuntu is the easiest with drivers
[20:22] <PerSeL> because I tried it
[20:22] <PerSeL> I don't know how it goes with others
[20:22] <PerSeL> that's why I'm asking
[20:23] <Bonster> havent use the others
[20:23] <Bonster> them think they use yum
[20:23] <Bonster> instead of apt
[20:23] <soheyl> sh ./filename.sh
[20:24] <soheyl> ^^
[20:24] <apparle> PerSeL: I started on linux with kubuntu and am still using it..... I have  tried some other live CDs but I think kubuntu is the best
[20:24] <apparle> Bonster: depends on how you see it....... I don't like someone messing with the default look ........ also I love debian packaging
[20:25] <PerSeL> well i tried some bsd, some other unknown stuff, also ubuntu, never tried kubuntu, opensuse, mandriva,
[20:25] <FireCrotch> I've had an interesting phenomenon happening lately... quassel tries to send msgs to random nicks - most recent was "OMFG51995" and "OMFG59679"
[20:26] <FireCrotch> Not quite sure what is going on there
[20:26] <Bonster> apparle, is usually like that majority of the time
[20:27] <apparle> Bonster: :)
[20:34] <ngong> after upgrading disk had problems, fsck made it to be readable without errormessages, however, no data below my home directory is shown. Is there any recommendable recovery software for scanning the disk?
[20:39] <iconmefisto_> ngong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[20:40] <Bonster> use livecd
[20:57] <doomuser5> http://alienscapeserver.darkbb.com/
[20:57] <doomuser5> http://alienscapeserver.darkbb.com/
[20:57] <doomuser5> http://alienscapeserver.darkbb.com/
[20:57] <FloodBotK1> doomuser5: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <kaddi> i need help with kopete, anyone around?
[21:00] <kaddi> how do I join a group chat
[21:00] <apparle> guys how to setup dual monitors
[21:01] <apparle> !dual
[21:04] <iconmefisto_> !dualmonitor
[21:06] <apparle> !Xinerama
[21:06] <apparle> !dualhead
[21:06] <PerSeL> hello
[21:06] <PerSeL> again
[21:06] <PerSeL> I got 1 more question
[21:06] <PerSeL> how do i install nvidia driver?
[21:06] <PerSeL> it's .run
[21:07] <PerSeL> what I'm supposed to type in terminal?
[21:08] <happy_> PerSeL: you can install the nvidia driver with the restricted driver manager
[21:08] <iconmefisto_> have you tried installing from Hardware Drivers?
[21:09] <happy_> iconmefisto_: thats what I meant ^
[21:09] <happy_> lol
[21:09] <PerSeL> y
[21:09] <PerSeL> but there is nothing in the list
[21:09] <iconmefisto_> happy_: yeah you beat me to it
[21:09] <Izinucs> !ksynaptic
[21:10] <PerSeL> so how can I fix it?
[21:10] <PerSeL> i got 7300gt nvidia
[21:10] <iconmefisto_> !nvidia
[21:10] <PerSeL> just downloaded it from the official site
[21:11] <iconmefisto_> PerSeL: to run it type ./installer.run
[21:12] <Quintasan> hell no
[21:13] <Quintasan> PerSeL: you can install it via Jockey but you need to install jockey-gtk package because the KDE one somehow refues to work :S
[21:13] <iconmefisto_> PerSeL: you   can use jockey-text in CLI
[21:13] <genii> Theres also jockey-text , I believe
[21:15] <apparle> Quintasan: kde one works if you install the associated driver packages (like fglrx or nvidia-glx) and then use it just to activate the driver
[21:17] <PerSeL> well when I'm clicking on it i get nothing
[21:17] <PerSeL> and can't run it from terminal
[21:17] <PerSeL> well how can I install the driver :\
[21:18] <PerSeL> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-glx-173
[21:18] <PerSeL> well my card it listed here
[21:19] <iconmefisto_> PerSeL: try  sudo jockey-text -C   does that find the driver?
[21:21] <PerSeL> no
[21:21] <PerSeL> there is no available graphics drivers for your system etc.. etc...
[21:21] <PerSeL> it's nvidia 7300 gt
[21:22] <iconmefisto_> are you running intrepid?
[21:22] <PerSeL> what is that?
[21:22] <PerSeL> I'm just installed kubuntu
[21:22] <PerSeL> cause I wanted to try it with 1 game
[21:23] <iconmefisto_> it's an old version of ubuntu. the link you gave above is for intrepid
[21:23] <PerSeL> but somewhy I get no driver installed for my graphic card
[21:23] <PerSeL> i use the last kubuntu
[21:23] <PerSeL> 9.10
[21:23] <PerSeL> just dled and installed
[21:24] <PerSeL> other comp got ubuntu and there is not prob with drivers
[21:24] <PerSeL> so kinda strange
[21:24] <PerSeL> can't i install the driver i just dled from nvidia?
[21:24] <titan_ark> I tried all day yesterday to get Kubuntu on my notebooka nd something or the other doesnt seem to work right
[21:24] <Kolia> PerSeL: have you tried to install from the "hardware driver" dialog instead?
[21:25] <iconmefisto_> PerSeL: maybe try what apparle said, install nvidia-glx-173 and then try to activate it with Hardware Drivers
[21:25] <Kolia> PerSeL: oh sorry you tried already.
[21:25] <PerSeL> i opened this hardware and i see nothing there
[21:25] <PerSeL> just a window with no possibility to press on any key
[21:26] <PerSeL> how do i install this glx 173?
[21:26] <PerSeL> sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-173?
[21:26] <iconmefisto_> yep
[21:27] <iconmefisto_> assuming that's the one for your card
[21:27] <iconmefisto_> apt-cache search nvidia-glx   will show you others
[21:27] <Kolia> 185 is newer
[21:28] <PerSeL> when I type sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-173
[21:28] <PerSeL> it writes me invalid nvidia-glx-173
[21:28] <soheyl> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[21:29] <PerSeL> ahhh k running the install now... doing something there
[21:29] <PerSeL> numbers and text is running :)
[21:32] <emil> hi all
[21:32] <PerSeL> ok it did something
[21:32] <PerSeL> how do i know if it installed it?
[21:33] <PerSeL> i mean my driver card
[21:34] <emil> i've on my desktop some online stations,but i can't open them with amarok;why?
[21:35] <Kolia> PerSeL: alt+f2 -> start to type "Hardware.." to get the hardware drivers dialog
[21:35] <Kolia> it should be listed there now
[21:35] <Kolia> and maybe enabled. if not you can maybe activate it there
[21:36] <PerSeL> well now it found something in hardware drivers
[21:36] <PerSeL> so i'm installing the rec. one
[21:40] <BluesKaj> hmm, trying to figure out the /etc/network/interfaces settings for wifi rt2870 adapter/driver ...it's a toughy for the likes of me :)
[21:42] <BluesKaj> rt2870 is a ralink driver and there's not much documentation out there for setting up in  /etc/network/interfaces
[21:56] <michaeljwjr> Does anyone have a recommendation for video editing software that allows me to add captions and make titles and such. Kinda like Windows Movie Maker
[21:57] <apparle> michaeljwjr: I am not sure about features but kdenlive is a very good video editor
[21:57] <apparle> michaeljwjr: check the wesite
[21:58] <michaeljwjr> apparle: Thanks, installing it now
[21:59] <Nete> how to unistall konquerer?
[22:01] <matty3269> Nete: perhaps try sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[22:02] <matty3269> Nete: perhaps try sudo apt-get remove konquerer **
[22:03] <Nete> matty3269: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:03] <Nete> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:03] <matty3269> Nete: Do you have KPackageManager open?
[22:04] <Nete> No, adept
[22:04] <matty3269> Nete: ok close anything that will be using aptitude and try again.
[22:04] <Nete> matty3269: ok
[22:06] <Nete> matty3269: I retried removing it with Terminal. It says the package is not to be found.
[22:07] <Nete> matty3269: I'm trying to remove it because I'm having conflictions with firefox.
[22:08] <matty3269> Nete: just to make sure that it you have spelt it correct, it is konqueror
[22:08] <matty3269> Nete: I did spell it correct the first time but corrected myself wrongly, :)
[22:08] <Nete> matty3269: I did spell it wrong. LOL
[22:09] <matty3269> Nete: has it gone?
[22:09] <Nete> matty3269, Yes
[22:09] <Nete> Thanks
[22:09] <matty3269> Nete: yw
[22:11] <Xaositect_> perhaps anyone can suggest some foobar2000-like player? i don't feel like using amarok, though i wans some features like downloading/reading from tags lyrics / quick customizable search (facets in foobar)
[22:11] <Xaositect_> and customizable interface xD
[22:14] <matty3269> Xaositect_: are you a fan of iTunes? Im sure there is an app you can get that works very much like it
[22:15] <matty3269> Xaositect_: perhaps try songbird
[22:15] <Xaositect_> itunes. hmm not really. i just prefer ascetic interface..
[22:16] <Xaositect_> matty3269, ok, thanks... i'll check
[22:23] <Carlinha> hi! Alguém ai fala português?
[22:27] <Kolia> !pt | Carlinha
[22:46] <PerSeL> guys
[22:46] <PerSeL> if i'm in console
[22:46] <PerSeL> how do i restart comp?
[22:47] <soheyl> uff under ubuntu: sudo shutdown -h now ?
[22:47] <soheyl> ah dawn that is shutdown...
[22:47] <soheyl> sudo shutdown -r now
[22:48] <PerSeL> thnx
[22:52] <rudy> siemano
[22:52] <Guest18726> jest ktos z polski??
[22:52] <Mamarok> English, please!
[22:52] <Guest18726> anyone from poland?
[22:53] <maco> !pl
[22:53] <Guest18726> i just installed kubuntu 9.10 on my asus
[22:54] <Guest18726> it's great
[22:57] <Xaositect_> oO separate polish channel?
[22:57] <Kolia> why not?
[22:57] <Xaositect_> maybe i'll be lucky to find belarusian one xD
[22:57] <mauri> Im still continuing to receive this messegner when quassel starts "[NickServ] This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>."   help me please
[22:58] <coreyB> mauri,  did you register that nickname? if not, then you wont be able to use it
[22:58] <Xaositect_> lolyeah, 3 users
[22:58] <mauri> coreyB: but im writting here however
[22:59] <coreyB> mauri,  it changes the nick automatically within a minute
[22:59] <apparle> mauri: have you registered this nick?
[22:59] <mauri> apparle: i dont know
[23:00] <apparle> have you ever specified an email id or password here on IRC
[23:00] <mauri> apparle: no
[23:01] <mauri> apparle: im looking at
[23:01] <Mamarok> coreyB: it will only change it the owner is online
[23:01] <coreyB> ah
[23:01] <apparle> mauri: then you better choose a different username and you are going to come here frequently
[23:02] <coreyB> different from the other networks i suppose, Mamarok
[23:02] <mauri> apparle: okk
[23:03] <mauri> is someone tried the teletect with vlc?
[23:12] <mauri> has someone tried the teletect with vlc?
[23:14] <Xaositect_> err.... core error.... songbird can't play nor flac nor ogg nor mp3
[23:15] <Xaositect_> what am i doing wrong?... it's all ok with amarok
[23:19] <DexterF> hi
[23:20] <DexterF> after 804-910 upgrade my sounds seems a lot quieter than before, have to crank Master and PCM all the way up and still had to give my HiFi another notch.
[23:20] <DexterF> Any idea why?
[23:20] <DexterF> alsa, not pulse
[23:21] <crimsun> DexterF: which kernel are you using?
[23:22] <DexterF> 2.6.31-16-generic. crimsun
[23:22] <crimsun> DexterF: use http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, please .
[23:23] <DexterF> crimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=283d35eb875930ed00c5c7987c50305be2953d55
[23:25] <crimsun> DexterF: you need to increase you Wave* playback levels
[23:25] <crimsun> your Wave*, rather
[23:26] <DexterF> crimsun: what's it with the *? you mean all the Wave sliders? this is a 2.0 setup
[23:26] <DexterF> crimsun: DUH
[23:27] <DexterF> ok, thanks
[23:27] <DexterF> I totally neglected the "Wave" slider, thought "PCM" did that. Just wander what PCM is for then...
[23:27] <crimsun> the Tritech codec is completely screwed
[23:28] <DexterF> like how?
[23:28] <crimsun> well, the driver currently doesn't handle independent pcm volumes per-channel
[23:28] <crimsun> so PCM ties them all together based on certain register toggles
[23:28] <crimsun> IEC*
[23:29] <crimsun> if you're (un)lucky enough to have a 'Master', that really isn't a "master" so much as a "master front", and even then it isn't completely related to front because the IEC* controls affect it...
[23:29] <DexterF> are you a developer?
[23:30] <crimsun> (yes)
[23:30] <DexterF> thought so :)
[23:30] <DexterF> happen to know if the botched Terratec Cinergy .ko will be fixed in the next kernel update?
[23:31] <DexterF> had to compile v4l manually... at first didn't know where to start, so long since I ran a make menuconfig :)
[23:31] <crimsun> do you have a bug report I can reference?
[23:32] <DexterF> no, I just notived that it's a known issue.
[23:32] <DexterF> actually I now have 3 sliders that affect the final volume: Master, PCM and Wave. And "Wave" doesn't even appear in KMix, I only found that one in alsamixer...
[23:35] <DexterF> crimsun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/490099  not limited to the T2 then, I guess
[23:37] <crimsun> DexterF: I don't think so; there isn't any usable debugging information. "It froze" and "it doesn't work" are pretty useless. :/
[23:38] <DexterF> guess I'll file a bug report.
[23:38] <crimsun> if that one matches your symptom and hardware precisely, just add to that bug report
[23:39] <crimsun> the lack of a backtrace or serial console output or anything, really, makes it pretty dead as a defect report
[23:40] <newbie123abc> how can i get KDE 4.4 RC1?
[23:40] <DexterF> bah, bugger, what am I saying - it's fixed here. wouldn't even know how to revert, after all it went in "make install".....
[23:41] <DexterF> newbie123abc: even better: at pearsoncomputing.com you can get KDE*3* packages! yay!
[23:41] <DexterF> [/bitter]
[23:42] <newbie123abc> DexterF: deb packages
[23:42] <DexterF> now for some Glenmorangie.
[23:43] <DexterF> newbie123abc: uh huh. but if you're as newbie as your nick suggestes don't let me throw you off the track, kde4 is official and getting the old kde3 in is only for people like me who think that kde4 is a step in the wrong direction, nowhere near ready and a usability catastrophy
[23:44] <newbie123abc> DexterF: ZZZzzZZZzzZZZzzz...
[23:56] <coreyB> hey Daughain  whats the thing to install to watch bought DVD's?
[23:57] <coreyB> anyone?