[07:59] <vish> zniavre: the nautilus changes[extra pane and bunch of other stuff] landed in Lucid
[07:59] <zniavre> :o)
[07:59] <zniavre> vish what is the other stuff ?
[08:00] <zniavre> is  it rgba able now?
[08:00] <vish> zniavre: i think the RBGA and client side items landed too.. [i havent tried them though]
[08:00] <zniavre> haha ...
[08:00] <vish> bleh... nautilus feels weird now :/   they moved the zoom in the center of the toolbar buttons
[08:01] <zniavre> im so sad i can't try it with my comp > installing a small soft is already a nightmare i can't think installing a full OS
[08:01]  * vish turns off main toolbar :/
[08:02] <vish> zniavre: from the RBGA bug report is seems it has landed
[08:04] <vish> argh! two more context menu items :/   "copy to" and "move to"
[08:06] <darkmatter> vish: how many times have I told you. nautilus is a worthless and convoluted pile of **** ;)
[08:08] <vish> darkmatter: seriously... the context menu is like a takeout menu now! looks like a long list of everything i could try at some point !
[08:10] <darkmatter> vish: yes, plus if I wanted a split pane I'd use gnome commander or some other filer that does it correctly. I am REALLY starting to hate the half-hearted and careless approach to software design
[08:11] <thorwil> morning!
[08:12] <vish> hehe , now if someone wants to use the location using keyboard , they can do it _only_ with the keyboard ;)
[08:12] <thorwil> nautilus does split pane in an incorrect way?
[08:12] <vish> or i havent found a button to do it yet ;p
[08:13]  * vish starts cursing at the window!
[08:16] <thorwil> darkmatter: the currently popular approach to "design" seems to be taking a wild guess on what might be a good strategy to then run with with an implementation, talking about and tweaking details as you stumble over them
[08:17] <thorwil> vish: any news on the book cover?
[08:17] <darkmatter> thorwil: pretty much
[08:19] <darkmatter> vish: I've not seen the new context menu, so is it like a convoluted and redundant mess that does, like, copy/move with a file chooser/browse dialog while retaining copy and paste?
[08:20] <darkmatter> copy and cut*
[08:21] <thorwil> wtf: http://www.photo-editor-pro.com/
[08:22] <darkmatter> thorwil: it's GNU, deal with it :P
[08:23] <darkmatter> thorwil: I've seen worse. there was a company selling *their* office suite for $149.95 or something like that. bargain basement price for OO.o
[08:28] <vish> re
[08:28] <vish> just a sec let me get the default screenshots!
[08:36] <vish> darkmatter: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png
[08:36] <vish> thorwil: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-guest-home.F839KN%20-%20File%20Browser-1.png
[08:36] <vish> thorwil: cover this was the final versioni ended up with > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Cover.png
[08:37] <wolter> oh lord.. I hope i can disable some of those
[08:37] <wolter> like copy to and move to
[08:37] <wolter> thats so.. windows
[08:37] <darkmatter> vish: yeah. pretty much the convoluted approach I thought
[08:38] <vish> thorwil: is how they want to use it > http://imagebin.ca/view/Is-TiOI.html
[08:39] <wolter> yeah well, a bit changed
[08:39]  * vish scratches head... :/ needs to fix the "home" icon.. seems like a dwarf there ;p
[08:39] <wolter> we made the white strip in the head more triangular, the lower "beard" a bit darker, and the "Created by" is now well aligned
[08:41]  * vish bbiab
[08:41] <thorwil> i think the shape of the eye is way off. outer corner much too high/sharp
[08:42] <thorwil> wolter: do you happen to know the page size and margins for the content?
[08:43] <wolter> thorwil, well, I use the US Letter size inkscape provides
[08:43] <thorwil> wolter: the book is in US letter format?
[08:44] <wolter> thorwil, yes
[08:44] <wolter> thorwil, is it strange?
[08:45] <thorwil> wolter: i don't know how (un)common that is. there's obviously quite some variation in book formats
[08:46] <thorwil> will be fun if someone tries to print that on din a4
[08:47] <thorwil> us letter: 215.9 × 279.4 , din a4: 210 x 297 mm
[08:48] <thorwil> wolter: what's your role in the manual project?
[08:50]  * thorwil does household chores
[08:53] <wolter> thorwil, i am helping making chapter 9
[08:53] <wolter> and also making the cover
[08:53] <wolter> well, a version of it
[08:53] <wolter> and i made the lynx