| === eeejay is now known as eeejay_away | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 07:44 |
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| kenvandine | hey pitti | 08:14 |
| * kenvandine just released 0.2 of xchat-indicator :) | 08:14 | |
| kenvandine | time to crash! | 08:14 |
| kenvandine | good night all | 08:14 |
| pitti | yay | 08:41 |
| pitti | kenvandine: good night! | 08:41 |
| glatzor | morning pitti and mvo | 08:46 |
| mvo | hey glatzor! good morning! | 08:53 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 08:53 |
| seb128 | hey mvo! | 08:54 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:54 |
| pitti | hey glatzor, hey mvo, hey seb128 | 08:54 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:55 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:55 |
| mvo | seb128: tired, but otherwise good | 08:55 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, hey, do you know what happened to dxteam weekly tarballs? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, I've seen no upload yesterday | 09:08 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, good, thank you, what about you? | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i'm ok thanks. i've just got in to work, i had a few car issues this morning which delayed me | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | and my breakfast has just arrived now | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | perfect timing :) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | urg | 09:10 |
| seb128 | you have no luck with cars | 09:10 |
| seb128 | or is that still the same one which let you down in december? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | enjoy breakfast | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, mine is a pain in the cold. it's still the same car. there is a relay in the windscreen wiper motor which ices up in the cold, and i have to use a hair-dryer on it to warm it up ;) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | brb, reboot after daily dist-upgrade | 09:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, urg, you deserve coffee and breakfast now then ;-) | 09:12 |
| davidbarth | seb128: not ready yesterday, postponed to today | 09:32 |
| seb128 | hum, ok | 09:32 |
| seb128 | or next week then | 09:32 |
| * seb128 doesn't like things landing on friday evening | 09:32 | |
| seb128 | when everybody is away for the weekend | 09:32 |
| davidbarth | seb128: well, for a2, it's today the latest | 09:32 |
| seb128 | let's see | 09:32 |
| davidbarth | seb128: next week is another story, it will be the beginning of a3 | 09:32 |
| seb128 | you will get tarballs today | 09:33 |
| seb128 | we will see when we upload to lucid | 09:33 |
| seb128 | I don't push new versions on friday afternoon usually | 09:33 |
| seb128 | that's a receipt to have a broken distro until after weekend | 09:33 |
| davidbarth | seb128: ok, i understand | 09:33 |
| davidbarth | seb128: yeah | 09:33 |
| davidbarth | seb128: but yesterday we didn't have enough new features for the app indicators, and the community needs that | 09:34 |
| davidbarth | seb128: so we're pushing a bit more to get that in a2 proper | 09:34 |
| seb128 | I understand don't worry | 09:34 |
| seb128 | I'm just saying that might land on monday in lucid | 09:34 |
| seb128 | which is fine for alpha2 | 09:34 |
| huats | morning everyone | 09:35 |
| pitti | I'm off for some two hours for an appointment | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, see you later | 09:42 |
| seb128 | huats, hey | 09:42 |
| huats | seb128, hello ! | 09:43 |
| seb128 | bah | 10:20 |
| seb128 | indicator-application is too buggy to be used | 10:20 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, is ted working on fix it for alpha2? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | I don't see any commit for 3 weeks | 10:21 |
| seb128 | you can't call set_menu, set_icon, etc several time | 10:21 |
| seb128 | so it's not possible to do any update which sort of limit the use | 10:22 |
| davidbarth | seb128: yes, is been working on it the week of christmas and this week of course | 10:39 |
| davidbarth | seb128: update, you mean sending a menu update, right? | 10:40 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:40 |
| seb128 | menu or icon | 10:40 |
| seb128 | there is a bug with a testcase for the icon issue | 10:41 |
| seb128 | the api is buggy too | 10:41 |
| davidbarth | that's right; bug with test case ok | 10:41 |
| davidbarth | i mean, good to have a test case | 10:41 |
| seb128 | it would explain why the rhythmbox icon doesn't change on play or pause | 10:41 |
| seb128 | (though it would be broken if it changed due to the custom theme dir) | 10:42 |
| davidbarth | the api is new, but it's similar to the kde one; i don't think it's that buggy, it needs more work, but the number of ported, and so impacted, applications so far is limited | 10:42 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, no sorry, I mean there is a bug in the documentation | 10:43 |
| seb128 | I will do a patch for it now | 10:43 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, it has "These are the states that the indicator can be on in the user's panel. The indicator by default starts in the state APP_INDICATOR_STATUS_OFF and can be shown by setting it to APP_INDICATOR_STATUS_ON." | 10:44 |
| davidbarth | seb128: bratsche is looking at the right signal to connect to to get the updates to be propagated | 10:44 |
| seb128 | where it's _ACTIVE and _PASSIVE in the neum | 10:44 |
| seb128 | enum | 10:44 |
| seb128 | and the default state is wrong too | 10:44 |
| seb128 | if you don't call set_status on ACTIVE it's displayed anyway | 10:45 |
| seb128 | hey agateau | 10:45 |
| seb128 | nothing too specific or that can't wait for ted | 10:45 |
| seb128 | I was saying that "These are the states that the indicator can be on in the user's panel. The indicator by default starts in the state APP_INDICATOR_STATUS_OFF and can be shown by setting it to APP_INDICATOR_STATUS_ON." | 10:45 |
| seb128 | is wrong | 10:45 |
| seb128 | the enum has _ACTIVE and _PASSIVE there and no _ON and _OFF as values | 10:46 |
| seb128 | and the default seems to be ACTIVE | 10:46 |
| seb128 | since if you don't cann set_status it does display the indicator anyway | 10:46 |
| seb128 | call | 10:46 |
| agateau | seems to be consistent with the spec | 10:46 |
| davidbarth | seb128: hmm, that must be a mismatch between a spec element and the implementation; thanks for spotting this one | 10:46 |
| seb128 | I will open a bug now | 10:46 |
| davidbarth | seb128: call? you mean you're on a call; ping us back then | 10:47 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, no "cann" was a typo for "call" | 10:47 |
| seb128 | sorry ;-) | 10:47 |
| seb128 | cf line before the "call" | 10:47 |
| davidbarth | k | 10:48 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, agateau: bug #504700 | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504700 in indicator-application "inconsistant status documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504700 | 10:50 |
| davidbarth | seb128: about the inability to call set_menu or icon multiple times, it's all about supporting updates, right? or did you spot other issues in the code, like statics, or wrong create/destroy cycles? | 10:52 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, updates | 10:52 |
| davidbarth | seb128: ok | 10:52 |
| seb128 | davidbarth, agateau: I've added a small testcase to bug #504699 to show the default value issue too | 10:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504699 in indicator-application "inconsistant status documentation" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504699 | 10:53 |
| seb128 | bug #504700 rather | 10:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504700 in indicator-application "inconsistant status documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504700 | 10:56 |
| seb128 | sorry I opened it twice | 10:56 |
| seb128 | closed the dup | 10:56 |
| JamieBennett | I need to determine if we have 3D acceleration capabilities to install either a 2D or 3D netbook-launcher for UNE on ARM. | 11:44 |
| JamieBennett | glxinfo | grep 'renderer string' would do it but apparently there is a better way? Anyone know what that is? | 11:44 |
| seb128 | JamieBennett, hi, I don't know but bryyce or mvo might know | 11:45 |
| seb128 | they are probably not around right now, it's lunch time for mvo and early for bryyce | 11:45 |
| seb128 | you can wait there though | 11:46 |
| * JamieBennett hangs around | 11:46 | |
| mvo | JamieBennett: hi, in compiz we use http://paste.ubuntu.com/353425/ | 11:49 |
| seb128 | mvo, wb, I guess that s-c crashing on exit is known? | 11:56 |
| seb128 | mvo, it's very noticable now that apport is running again in lucid | 11:56 |
| JamieBennett | mvo thanks | 11:57 |
| mvo | seb128: what is the backtrace? | 11:58 |
| seb128 | mvo, a NoSectionError | 11:58 |
| seb128 | let me check again | 11:58 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #494899 | 11:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494899 in software-center "software-center crashed with NoSectionError in set()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494899 | 11:59 |
| seb128 | bug #495698 | 11:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 495698 in software-center "ConfigParser.NoSectionError error on exit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495698 | 11:59 |
| seb128 | bug #495698 | 11:59 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks, I fix it today | 12:00 |
| seb128 | mvo, I think those 3 bugs are duplicate and the same issue | 12:00 |
| seb128 | bug #504057 | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504057 in software-center "software-center crashed with NoSectionError in set()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504057 | 12:00 |
| seb128 | sorry I had the same number twice before | 12:01 |
| mvo | np | 12:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ those are the 3 matching | 12:01 |
| mvo | thanks, milestoned | 12:01 |
| seb128 | thank you | 12:01 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | I get the bug if you need testing | 12:01 |
| seb128 | it happens when closing s-c | 12:01 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks, I will come back to you about it | 12:02 |
| asac | plymouth officially busted? | 12:09 |
| tseliot | asac: ? | 12:10 |
| seb128 | asac, Keybuk should know | 12:10 |
| asac | i get reports that we always get error messages at boot about it | 12:10 |
| asac | one sec | 12:10 |
| asac | 13:10 < JamieBennett> asac: Its mountall: Could not connect to Plymouth | 12:10 |
| tseliot | I haven't had the time to do further work on it but yes, Keybuk should know about that | 12:10 |
| tseliot | asac: maybe because plymouth is not installed? | 12:11 |
| asac | good idea ;) | 12:11 |
| tseliot | (not that if installed that would work correctly) | 12:11 |
| asac | heh | 12:13 |
| asac | takes a bit ;) | 12:13 |
| asac | 13:14 < ogra> ii libplymouth2 0.8.0~-6 graphical boot animation and logger - shared | 12:14 |
| seb128 | asac, what about the plymouth binary? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | asac, the lib is probably not enough | 12:15 |
| asac | yeah | 12:15 |
| asac | seems to be not installed. isnt that in the desktop seed? | 12:15 |
| JamieBennett | seb128 no binary | 12:15 |
| seb128 | asac, not yet | 12:16 |
| * asac has no clue about plymouth ;) | 12:16 | |
| asac | ah ok | 12:16 |
| seb128 | asac, Keybuk mentioned yesterday to have to do that for next week | 12:16 |
| asac | then its expected | 12:16 |
| asac | ok. when do you plan to | 12:16 |
| seb128 | before flying on tuesday I think | 12:16 |
| seb128 | I don't plan anything | 12:16 |
| seb128 | Keybuk said it's an alpha2 goal | 12:16 |
| seb128 | so before tuesday I expect | 12:16 |
| seb128 | lunch time there | 12:17 |
| seb128 | bbl | 12:17 |
| asac | flying? | 12:17 |
| asac | sprint? | 12:18 |
| JamieBennett | Looks like a glxinfo | grep "direct rendering: Yes" (or glxinfo | grep 'renderer string' differing opinions on which is best) is the way to detect 3D acceleration. Where do I look to integrate this into GDM so the right one (2D/3D) is launched on login? | 12:19 |
| asac | thats the brute force approach. too bad i cant remember. i was told that its important to check for a certain extension ;) | 12:21 |
| asac | JamieBennett: i would think its in the session script | 12:22 |
| JamieBennett | asac: I talked to MacSlow and a few guys in #ubuntu-x seems there is no real nice way of detecting it on all platforms | 12:24 |
| asac | ok we will see. | 12:24 |
| mvo | JamieBennett: there is no nice and easy way, but just checking for directrendering will miss use cases like ltsp that works ok with gl over the network iirc | 12:25 |
| asac | maybe we should check the UDS session notes again | 12:25 |
| asac | maybe i commented i tthere | 12:25 |
| asac | mvo: do you know which extension we need to probe for? | 12:25 |
| mvo | asac: I pasted what we do in compiz | 12:26 |
| asac | where? | 12:26 |
| mvo | basicly we check for software raserization and if that is present we bail out | 12:26 |
| mvo | in lucid in code | 12:26 |
| * asac searches for glasses | 12:26 | |
| asac | mvo: we want to check for UNE launcher | 12:27 |
| mvo | in karmic we do it with a script | 12:27 |
| mvo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/353425/ | 12:27 |
| asac | might not be the same as compiz | 12:27 |
| mvo | you also need to be careful because some HW supports acceleration only on the first head | 12:27 |
| mvo | so e.g. the guest session will be slow if you try 3d on it | 12:27 |
| asac | yeah. well. at best we would have a strict check | 12:27 |
| asac | its ok for us to bail out | 12:27 |
| asac | on arm | 12:27 |
| asac | actually we expect that to happen in most cases | 12:28 |
| mvo | LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT is also something that may be tested (not sure if that is still relevant) - so once with that set and once without | 12:28 |
| mvo | Amaranth: recently ported all the checks to C, he knows best currently what to check for | 12:29 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| asac | mvo: but is compiz even related to UNE/clutter? | 13:08 |
| * asac lunch | 13:09 | |
| kenvandine | pitti, have you seen the branch for jockey adding appindicator support? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine | 13:35 |
| pitti | kenvandine: Conor was talking to me about it, yes | 13:36 |
| seb128 | is that working? | 13:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yes | 13:36 |
| seb128 | trying to stop displaying the icon there is a fail, weird | 13:36 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering what you do to get that working | 13:36 |
| kenvandine | it displays the icon | 13:36 |
| seb128 | well it should stop once the driver is installed | 13:36 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 13:36 |
| seb128 | I've not managed to get that working | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | humm | 13:37 |
| seb128 | the set_status just does nothing there | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | once jockey marks it as seen, it doesn't notify | 13:37 |
| seb128 | I had a go to gnome-bluetooth today | 13:37 |
| seb128 | how to you get the icon to go away from the indicator? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | calling set_status on passive doesn't do anything | 13:37 |
| seb128 | calling set_status on passive doesn't do anything there | 13:37 |
| seb128 | calling set_status on passive doesn't do anything there | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | when i tested the appindicator branch it goes away when you click it | 13:38 |
| seb128 | ups wrong screen | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | which opens jockey | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | the icon goes away | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | pitti, did he do a merge proposal yet? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:39 |
| seb128 | I will have a look to the code, thanks | 13:39 |
| pitti | kenvandine: didn't see one yet (at least I didn't get mail) | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | oh, he added a patch to the bug instead of doing a merge proposal | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | he says it has my changes included, but LP isn't responding... | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | pitti, bug 497879 | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 497879 in jockey "Support Application Indicators" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497879 | 13:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, does jockey exit if there is nothing to do? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | tedg, good morning | 13:43 |
| tedg | Good morning seb128 | 13:43 |
| pitti | seb128: on --check? yes | 13:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, so that's why no icon is displayed, you don't hide it but just exit? | 13:44 |
| * tedg assumes it's good, he hasn't opened his e-mail yet :) | 13:44 | |
| pitti | seb128: exactly; why should I leave the process running? | 13:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, no reason, I was wondering why masking the icon worked in the jockey case and not there | 13:46 |
| seb128 | tedg, I sent you a small patch in a bug I opened | 13:46 |
| seb128 | tedg, should $ python -c 'import gobject, gtk, appindicator; ind = appindicator.Indicator ("example-simple-client", "indicator-messages", appindicator.CATEGORY_APPLICATION_STATUS); ind.set_status (appindicator.STATUS_PASSIVE); ind.set_menu(gtk.Menu()); gtk.main()' work | 13:46 |
| seb128 | tedg, ie should that display no icon? or did I not understand the status thing? | 13:46 |
| tedg | seb128: It should, but that branch is not merged yet. It's getting into some sort of infinite signal loop :( I hope to have it merged today. | 13:47 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:47 |
| seb128 | tedg, otherwise lp #504700 | 13:48 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/504700) | 13:48 |
| seb128 | bah launchpad today | 13:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it works for jockey because it exit when there is nothing to do | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 13:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, so it doesn't actually have to hide the icon | 13:48 |
| JamieBennett | Anyone around knows how netbook-launcher is selected in UNE? Does it use gnome-session or some other mechanism? | 13:50 |
| mvo | seb128: could you quickly check if software-center gives you a debian placeholder thumbnail for missing images? or a (correct) ubuntu one? | 13:50 |
| mvo | (or someone else :) ? | 13:51 |
| seb128 | mvo, trying | 13:51 |
| mvo | btw, gio == love | 13:51 |
| tedg | seb128: Cool, yes I had originally wanted the status to be more informative, but I stuck with making it match the spec. | 13:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, debian in current lucid | 13:52 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks, I just wanted to be sure its not me (or my squid) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, you're welcome | 13:53 |
| seb128 | tedg, in the indicator design, should toggle visibility icons work that way or have a menu with one show or hide entry? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | tedg, in the indicator design, should toggle visibility icons work that way or have a menu with one show or hide entry displayed? | 14:18 |
| tedg | seb128: Menu item | 14:19 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 14:19 |
| seb128 | well that's blocked on set_status to do something | 14:19 |
| seb128 | ie having a way to stop showing the icon | 14:19 |
| seb128 | but I will look at doing the nautilus change | 14:20 |
| seb128 | it's only one icon for the copies there | 14:20 |
| * seb128 waves to launchpad, hello? | 14:21 | |
| seb128 | tedg, btw do you want me to turn my typo fix in a proper merge request? | 14:21 |
| tedg | seb128: You can, but I already merged it in :) | 14:22 |
| seb128 | ok, I will not bother then | 14:22 |
| seb128 | is there any way to do that from the command line? | 14:22 |
| seb128 | or is that a launchpad ui thing? | 14:22 |
| tedg | There is, but I've not gotten it to work. | 14:22 |
| * seb128 is launchpad bzr newbie | 14:22 | |
| tedg | You have to send a bundle via the e-mail interface. | 14:22 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:23 |
| seb128 | seems the ui thing is easier ;-) | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | tedg, i never got that stuff working either | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | statik tried coaching me, but it was complicated | 14:23 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, xchat-indicator, please use a 0ubuntu1 version | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | i think once you get all that stuff setup it could be quite convienent | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | for ubuntu i will | 14:23 |
| tedg | I think that the there is probably an issue with using the GUI mail tools like Evo that makes it complicated. I think it's simple if you have a local mail server configured. | 14:23 |
| seb128 | tedg, kenvandine: hey | 14:27 |
| seb128 | tedg, will checkboxes in the indicator menu work soon too? | 14:29 |
| tedg | seb128: Yes. Today. | 14:32 |
| seb128 | excellent | 14:32 |
| seb128 | the "hey" was to test kenvandine's xchat-gnome indicator thing | 14:33 |
| seb128 | seems to work fine | 14:33 |
| seb128 | xchat-gnome still claims for attention though | 14:33 |
| seb128 | ie the taskbar entry does its effect thingy | 14:33 |
| james_w | "bzr send lp:<project> --mail-to merge@launchpad.net" IIRC | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | seb128, himm... to you think i should change that? | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | i can | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | now that i figured out i can get a pointer to the window in the plugin | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | pitti, about jockey... do you want me to just distro patch that for now? | 14:35 |
| pitti | kenvandine: fine for me | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:36 |
| seb128 | james_w, nice | 14:41 |
| seb128 | slomo, hey | 14:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no strong opinion but I though the point of queuing things was to avoid active annoyance like the blincking | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | empathy still does that | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | and i think pidgin does too | 14:42 |
| seb128 | ie the taskbar flashed I don't really need the indicator icon change | 14:42 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you jabber ping me now? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | just to test something | 14:43 |
| pitti | seb128: done | 14:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no empathy doesn't | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | humm | 14:43 |
| seb128 | I got the notify bubble and that's all | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | did you have the chat window open? | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | mine just did it | 14:44 |
| seb128 | no dialog opening nor blinking | 14:44 |
| seb128 | no | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | leave the chat window open | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | it will | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | just not focused | 14:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:44 |
| seb128 | I tend to close my im dialgos | 14:44 |
| seb128 | dialogs | 14:44 |
| seb128 | using pidgin they just auto-open | 14:44 |
| slomo | seb128: hi :) | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | i think the difference is xchat you never close | 14:44 |
| seb128 | and empathy they just queue | 14:44 |
| seb128 | well I fail to see the point of the indicator | 14:45 |
| seb128 | if you have a task blinking to indicate that anyway | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | queue of things that need your attention | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | i am all for not blinking the taskbar | 14:45 |
| seb128 | well the tasklist queue them too | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | i just hadn't considered it | 14:45 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:45 |
| seb128 | in any case packaging looks good | 14:45 |
| seb128 | and it worked directly | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | cool :) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | I didn't need to restart xchat-gnome | 14:46 |
| seb128 | is there any way to active it when installed? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | without having to do that manually | 14:46 |
| seb128 | if you install it that's probably to use it | 14:46 |
| seb128 | or is that some sort of gconf list you would need to edit? | 14:46 |
| kenvandine | i think gconf | 14:47 |
| seb128 | ok, that sucks | 14:47 |
| seb128 | anyway it's a good start | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | so we would need to change that in xchat-gnome and make it depend/recommends etc | 14:47 |
| seb128 | let me know when you want sponsoring | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I would be in favor of no blinking too | 14:47 |
| seb128 | if you want to fix that | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I think that's the main interest of the indicator | 14:48 |
| seb128 | to avoid having things stressing you | 14:48 |
| seb128 | they just go there | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:49 |
| chrisccoulson | wow, my DSL connection is no faster than dial-up this afternoon! | 14:54 |
| vish | mpt: hi...around? | 14:55 |
| mpt | hi vish | 14:55 |
| vish | mpt: Bug 194472 is awaiting your higher intervention ;) | 14:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, very fast dial-up or very slow dsl? ;-) | 14:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 194472 in hundredpapercuts "Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194472 | 14:55 |
| vish | mpt: i asked matthiaz he mentioned he wasnt very sure of what you suggested | 14:56 |
| vish | mpt: he said your comments on the bug were a bit unclear ... he wasnt sure if the need to change the default behavior in sudo or to change the behavior in the other apps | 14:57 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i'm getting about 40kbps at the moment ;) | 14:58 |
| pitti | seb128: do you happen to know when the next gst release will be? (for bug 460535) | 14:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 460535 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "Unable to play any but the first track of CD" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460535 | 14:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, no | 15:00 |
| seb128 | slomo, ^ | 15:00 |
| === robbiew1 is now known as robbiew | ||
| pitti | bryyce: WDYT about the patch for bug 494627? it sounds important to get into a2 | 15:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494627 in xorg-server "nv driver crashing with segmentation fault in libpthread.so.0" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494627 | 15:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, it has been uploaded | 15:03 |
| seb128 | xorg-server (2:1.7.3.902-1ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low | 15:03 |
| seb128 | [ Michael Vogt ] | 15:03 |
| seb128 | * Add 101_nv-crash-fix.diff: Do not crash if gamma_set is NULL. | 15:03 |
| seb128 | (LP: #494627) | 15:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, no? | 15:03 |
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| pitti | seb128: hm, the bug is still open | 15:07 |
| pitti | ah, someone reopened it apparently? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | I didn't look at the bug | 15:08 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, seb128: are there branches for karmic packages? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | just lucid-changes | 15:08 |
| slomo | seb128: pre-releases should be there in a few days iirc | 15:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 15:08 |
| pitti | yay | 15:08 |
| seb128 | slomo, thanks | 15:08 |
| rodrigo__ | that is, I'm going to submit a lucid package, but I'm wondering what to do if I later have a karmic change, since trunk would be lucid | 15:08 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: not for ~ubuntu-desktop, just the auto-imports; feel free to create a branch if you need one, though | 15:08 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti: not for now, just want to submit a lucid package | 15:08 |
| rodrigo__ | so I'll create one if I need to | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | pitti: right, closed again | 15:11 |
| pitti | tjaalton: heh, me too | 15:11 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:14 |
| seb128 | I'm away for some erands | 15:15 |
| seb128 | bbl | 15:15 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, let me know if you need any sponsoring or anything | 15:16 |
| seb128 | I will read backlog later | 15:16 |
| seb128 | bbl | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | ok, i need to run out in a few too | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | driving my daughter to school... they delayed school 2 hours because of snow... which never happened | 15:17 |
| rickspencer3_ | I did a dist-upgrade yesterday, and my window manager is hilariously messed up | 15:18 |
| * rickspencer3_ switches to compiz | 15:19 | |
| rickspencer3_ | much better | 15:20 |
| mvo | compiz ftw ;) | 15:20 |
| pitti | davidbarth, kenvandine: would you mind updating the DX integration status on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus ? | 15:27 |
| * kenvandine runs out for a few... back in about 30m | 15:28 | |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, I guess that's a "no" from kenvandine | 15:31 |
| rickspencer3_ | ;) | 15:31 |
| pitti | heh | 15:31 |
| Hobbsee | well, that all depends on how long you want to wait ;) | 15:31 |
| pitti | seb128: do you happen to know what happened DX integration-wise this week? | 15:31 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: 29 minutes :) | 15:31 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: then he'll have 2 mins to do it :P | 15:32 |
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| mpt | vish, done | 15:32 |
| Hobbsee | should be no great problem, on that basis | 15:32 |
| vish | mpt: awesome.. thanks :) | 15:32 |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, check out what bdmurray did for us: | 15:35 |
| rickspencer3_ | http://people.canonical.com/~brian/tmp/canoncial-desktop-team-assigned.json | 15:35 |
| rickspencer3_ | it runs once per night | 15:35 |
| rickspencer3_ | and is integrated with bughugger | 15:36 |
| davidbarth | pitti: updating the work items atm, will do next | 15:39 |
| pitti | davidbarth: cheers | 15:40 |
| pitti | rickspencer3_: sweet! | 15:40 |
| davidbarth | pitti: if you want to trigger your scripts to rebuild the b-down charts, the dx graph should look different | 15:41 |
| vish | mpt: I'm confused... you want the feedback shown ... or is the comment to leave the behavior as it is now... shall I unassign the papercut bug? | 15:41 |
| mpt | vish, I'm saying it should depend on what server administrators want, not on what desktop users want. | 15:41 |
| pitti | davidbarth: rebuilding | 15:42 |
| pitti | davidbarth: (note that it always takes some 10 minutes before whiteboard changes propagate to production DB) | 15:42 |
| vish | mpt: since papercuts are for the desktop users .. so the bug is not a papercut it that sense..right? | 15:42 |
| pitti | davidbarth: ERROR: dx-lucid-application-indicator: invalid state "inprogress (blocked in the packaging queue)" for work item "[agateau] add dbusmenu support to kdelibs" | 15:43 |
| mpt | vish, I don't know. I think the Server team has been doing papercuts, but I don't know whether they use a project for it, and if so, what one. | 15:43 |
| pitti | davidbarth: otherwise, updated | 15:43 |
| vish | mpt: ok... thanks... | 15:44 |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, to entice you to take a look at bughugger: | 15:46 |
| rickspencer3_ | http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/01/more-bug-reporting-tools.html | 15:46 |
| asac | pitti: will there be a run for work items in 10 minutes? | 15:52 |
| asac | ;) | 15:52 |
| pitti | asac: yes | 15:53 |
| pitti | rickspencer3_: *excited* gravity column? sweet! | 15:54 |
| pitti | rickspencer3_: although arguably that's not really useful for assigned bugs | 15:54 |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, not *as* useful for sure | 15:54 |
| pitti | I'd love to sort by gravity for untriaged/unassigned bugs in my packages | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, you can totally do that with bughugger | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | bzr branch lp:bughugger | 15:55 |
| pitti | Package: bughugger | 15:55 |
| pitti | Status: install ok installed | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | cd bughugger | 15:55 |
| pitti | :) | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | quickly run | 15:55 |
| pitti | ah, for crack of the day | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | pitti, you want to use the branch, the PPA is a bit out of date | 15:55 |
| rickspencer3_ | I'm going to just try to get it strait into universe next week | 15:55 |
| * pitti does that the | 15:56 | |
| djsiegel | seb128: is gwibber still shipping? | 16:09 |
| rickspencer3_ | djsiegel, maybe I don't understand your question, but we are expecting to put it onto the CD in main to support the Me Menu | 16:13 |
| djsiegel | rickspencer3_: ah, ok | 16:13 |
| djsiegel | I just meant, is gwibber going to be a standalone, user-facing application in Lucid | 16:13 |
| rickspencer3_ | djsiegel, I' | 16:14 |
| rickspencer3_ | m sure how we are going to handle the UI part, but I assume it will be a stand alone app so there is some way to view your microblog feeds | 16:14 |
| rickspencer3_ | also, the configuration components are needed for Me Menu | 16:14 |
| djsiegel | ok | 16:14 |
| djsiegel | itorrey: http://github.com/phl/Fadomatic | 16:29 |
| geser | does somebody know of any objections to not sync/merge mutter from Debian testing? I'd ask didrocks as he did the Ubuntu packages but he doesn't seem to be here | 16:40 |
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| asac | geser: maybe check with njpatel ... not sure if he knows anything about mutter | 17:13 |
| asac | geser: also maybe check with pauliu ... he did that for OEM afaik | 17:14 |
| asac | paulliu actually | 17:14 |
| njpatel | asac: geser: I haven't tested out mutter from testing, but this would be the time to get it in I think | 17:15 |
| asac | is mutter used anywhere on images? | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | tseliot, ping | 17:15 |
| tseliot | kenvandine: pong | 17:16 |
| pitti | don't think so; it's still in universe | 17:16 |
| asac | geser: otherwise, just go ahead | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | tseliot, there are unreleased changes in the bzr branch for jockey | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | tseliot, can those get uploaded? | 17:16 |
| * kenvandine needs to get a patch uploaded | 17:16 | |
| asac | if you could check if all build depends for carrick are in debian i would be even happier | 17:16 |
| asac | ;) | 17:16 |
| * asac feels to ask for too much | 17:16 | |
| tseliot | kenvandine: not without the new nvidia common which in turn requires my nvidia drivers | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | ok, i will do a debdiff without your changes then :) | 17:17 |
| tseliot | kenvandine: good | 17:18 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:18 |
| tseliot | thanks for asking ;) | 17:18 |
| pitti | good bye everyone, have a nice weekend! | 17:37 |
| rickspencer3_ | see you in Paris pitti! | 17:45 |
| djsiegel | cassidy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/217582/Files%20Shared%20from%20GNOME%20Do/Screenshot-2-1213890507.png ? | 17:57 |
| mpt | mvo, Empathy now has buttons in rows too: ^^ | 18:01 |
| vish | mpt: thats a mockup ;) | 18:01 |
| mpt | It is? | 18:01 |
| mpt | durn | 18:01 |
| vish | mpt: djsiegel fooled me too :) | 18:01 |
| djsiegel | mpt: yeah, sorry | 18:02 |
| djsiegel | I am trying to persuade them not to put buttons-that-look-like-icons-that-reveal-a-small-context-menu-when-clicked | 18:02 |
| djsiegel | in ever row | 18:02 |
| djsiegel | every* | 18:02 |
| seb128 | re | 18:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, I see davidbarth did it | 18:32 |
| seb128 | geser, go for it that will fix gnome-shell | 18:33 |
| seb128 | geser, you might need replaces in ubuntu so no sync | 18:33 |
| seb128 | djsiegel, what rickspencer3 replied | 18:33 |
| rickspencer3 | hi seb128 | 18:33 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 18:33 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 18:34 |
| rickspencer3 | excited | 18:34 |
| rickspencer3 | looking forward to Paris | 18:35 |
| seb128 | about? | 18:35 |
| seb128 | oh right ;-) | 18:35 |
| rickspencer3 | haven't been there in 24 years! | 18:35 |
| rickspencer3 | (well, except the airport) | 18:35 |
| rickspencer3 | and looking forward to seeing didrocks, and pitti and Neil, and davidbarth, etc... | 18:35 |
| seb128 | (which we will not talk about right? ;-) | 18:35 |
| seb128 | is your french ready for that now you think? ;-) | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, sadly not | 18:36 |
| seb128 | yeah | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | I was practicing, though | 18:36 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering joining for a day | 18:36 |
| seb128 | I will see next week how the week turns | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, sounds good | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | no pressure | 18:36 |
| seb128 | I don't need to book anything in advance if I want to come | 18:36 |
| seb128 | I just have to catch a train | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | kewl | 18:36 |
| rickspencer3 | looks like the desktop team did quite a good job for a2 | 18:38 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 18:38 |
| rickspencer3 | very good progress | 18:38 |
| seb128 | I'm just slightly unhappy about login speed | 18:38 |
| seb128 | we still have lot to win there | 18:38 |
| rickspencer3 | this is keeping me away at night | 18:38 |
| rickspencer3 | I did discuss this with robbiew at length | 18:38 |
| asac | away ;)? | 18:38 |
| asac | hehe | 18:39 |
| rickspencer3 | I don't know what is going to happen | 18:39 |
| seb128 | I don't think the target is doable to be honest | 18:39 |
| seb128 | but let's see what we manage to do | 18:39 |
| rickspencer3 | but we had to cut touch UI, a lot of social from the start features, etc... | 18:39 |
| seb128 | there is just a limit of what you can do on a sucky cpu in a few seconds | 18:39 |
| rickspencer3 | so I am wondering if we've hit the point of diminishing returns in terms of user benefits | 18:40 |
| asac | how much time is currently needed/wanted? | 18:40 |
| rickspencer3 | asac, we're supposed to be down to 4 seconds, and we are 10+ now | 18:40 |
| asac | (just curious) | 18:40 |
| asac | ouch. ok | 18:40 |
| asac | so maybe dont start nautilus ;) | 18:41 |
| asac | or isnt that even in that time? | 18:41 |
| rickspencer3 | well, that 10+ is like half of where we used to be | 18:41 |
| asac | j.k. | 18:41 |
| rickspencer3 | asac, I think we would also have to not start gnome panel | 18:41 |
| asac | yeah. feels like a good improvement if it doesnt get better | 18:41 |
| rickspencer3 | so, the desktop wouldn't have too much value in that state ;) | 18:41 |
| asac | gnome panel is indeed kind of slow | 18:41 |
| rickspencer3 | in the meantime, it is still our goal to hit the target | 18:42 |
| seb128 | asac, well not starting nautilus is an option | 18:42 |
| seb128 | we still have some 8 seconds | 18:42 |
| seb128 | nautilus is not the limiting part | 18:42 |
| asac | thats why i mentioned it first ... on my desktop nautilus startup time is really annoying sometimes | 18:42 |
| seb128 | and those take some 8 seconds on the atm | 18:43 |
| seb128 | atom | 18:43 |
| asac | like i start working and then at some point mounts auto pop up etc. | 18:43 |
| seb128 | but 3 seconds on my 2 years old laptop config | 18:43 |
| seb128 | that's not nautilus | 18:43 |
| rickspencer3 | a3 is start up time, proprietary driver robustness, a couple of social from the start items, firefox support mdoel, and UNE | 18:43 |
| seb128 | that's probably the devicekit layer events coming late | 18:43 |
| rickspencer3 | at a high level | 18:43 |
| asac | the popping up certinaly doesnt happen before nautilus is loaded. for me it felt that it happens exactly when the nautilus stuff finished | 18:43 |
| asac | but right. could be independent | 18:44 |
| seb128 | if you have good cpu nautilus start in some 3 seconds | 18:44 |
| seb128 | at least on my dua centrino 2.4G | 18:44 |
| asac | which can be much if gnome-panel is also still rumbling | 18:44 |
| seb128 | the mini atom takes 8 seconds | 18:44 |
| asac | or isnt that in parallel (felt that way) | 18:44 |
| seb128 | it is | 18:44 |
| seb128 | but you might have a slow disk and hit io limits? | 18:45 |
| asac | could be. its a X61 lenovo ... so not that old | 18:45 |
| asac | but disk is definitly not fastest | 18:45 |
| asac | but i hope i can say that i have a good average computer for our market :) | 18:45 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/bootchart/seb128-dellmini-lucid-20100106-2.png | 18:45 |
| asac | but my nautilus and gnome-panel are customized ... so not comparable to clean install | 18:46 |
| seb128 | it's where we stand now on the mini | 18:46 |
| asac | otoh, i hate windows for getting slower over time ... this isnt the same in that it doesnt get worse at some point, but feels a bit like it if you start with aclean system | 18:46 |
| seb128 | asac, you take that laptop at the sprint? | 18:47 |
| seb128 | we can have a look to login speed there if you want... | 18:47 |
| asac | hmm. the bootchart doesnt show when a process is in io wait? | 18:48 |
| asac | or is it just not recognizable? | 18:48 |
| seb128 | asac, it does | 18:48 |
| seb128 | it's red on the bars | 18:49 |
| seb128 | the mini is ssd drive | 18:49 |
| seb128 | there is no io issue there | 18:49 |
| seb128 | the issue is purely cpu use | 18:49 |
| seb128 | see the charts | 18:49 |
| seb128 | graphs | 18:49 |
| asac | i dont say io throughput, but waiting on io ... like sleeping on a select/poll | 18:49 |
| seb128 | the first one, blue, is cpu | 18:49 |
| asac | i would think all white areas are like that | 18:49 |
| seb128 | oh, I don't think bootchart can tell that | 18:49 |
| seb128 | but I don't know about better tools either | 18:50 |
| seb128 | so we use that for now | 18:50 |
| asac | point is if there are is like white areas in the middle of blue ones, that usually means its waiting for sometihng | 18:50 |
| asac | if that is paired with no red anywhere, its not optimally scaled | 18:50 |
| mvo | mpt: hey, its easy to add those buttons when not in fixed-height mode | 18:50 |
| mpt | mvo, I guess contact lists don't get nearly as long | 18:51 |
| mvo | mpt: its really only a issue with very big datasets that are displayed | 18:51 |
| mpt | yah | 18:51 |
| mvo | mpt: yeah | 18:51 |
| mvo | mpt: I haven't had time yet, but it should be easy to write something to try it out | 18:51 |
| mvo | mpt: then we test performance on a netbook, if its reaonsable there, then we can do it | 18:51 |
| seb128 | asac, well the blue curve indicates it's 100%cpu all time | 18:51 |
| seb128 | so I would think it's cpu bounded | 18:52 |
| seb128 | why would it sit there doing nothing? | 18:52 |
| rickspencer3 | hiya didrocks | 18:53 |
| mvo | mpt: actually that is a interessting mockup, because AFAIK there are still no real buttons available, I can only do the fake buttons (as the arrow buttons we have currently) that are close to the real thing | 18:53 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3 | 18:53 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, do you use evo? | 18:53 |
| didrocks | hey mvo and seb128 :) | 18:55 |
| asac | seb128: so what is gnome-panel doing in the 2/4 section where is so much white? | 18:56 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks | 18:57 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, yes | 18:57 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, is there a function to archive a folder on a disc locally? | 18:58 |
| seb128 | asac, dunno, I've been profiling nautilus so far | 18:58 |
| rickspencer3 | like export to a .gz? | 18:58 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, not that I know | 18:58 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, I usually create a mbox account and creates folders there | 18:58 |
| seb128 | and copy emails to that | 18:58 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 18:58 |
| seb128 | it give you files in a dir | 18:59 |
| seb128 | one mbox file by box | 18:59 |
| rickspencer3 | makes sense | 18:59 |
| seb128 | box = folder | 18:59 |
| mvo | hey didrocks, happy new year! | 18:59 |
| rickspencer3 | I tried dragging the emails to a directory and evo went all nutty | 18:59 |
| seb128 | asac, the cpu is still at 100% though | 18:59 |
| seb128 | asac, so it might be waiting on applets to load | 18:59 |
| seb128 | that's done in a sync way | 19:00 |
| didrocks | mvo: happy new year to you too :) | 19:00 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, weird | 19:00 |
| seb128 | sorry I've to go for dinner | 19:00 |
| seb128 | see you laer! | 19:00 |
| seb128 | later | 19:00 |
| rickspencer3 | bye bye seb128 | 19:00 |
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| === mac_v is now known as vish | ||
| baptistemm | pitti, about hal deprecation I don't remember you mentionned cheese | 19:16 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| baptistemm | hmm, hal is not a debian dependence of cheese | 19:17 |
| rickspencer3 | baptistemm, there is a bug on cheese depending on hal | 19:19 |
| rickspencer3 | I think seb128 mentioned that hal dependency is removed in upstream git | 19:19 |
| baptistemm | because I can see it crying because of missing hal :) | 19:19 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 19:19 |
| rickspencer3 | you have to install hal and then run sudo hald :/ | 19:19 |
| baptistemm | okay cheese has switched to libgudev I guess | 19:20 |
| rickspencer3 | so the plan is, I think, to get the halectimized version into lucid, and if we can't do that, then we'll have to figure out how to start hal from a dbus signal | 19:20 |
| bryyce | rickspencer3, wow that'd suck if we brough back hal for cheese, after all the pain we've taken getting X to not need it ;-) | 19:22 |
| rickspencer3 | bryyce, well, we wouldn't "bring it back" in it's current form | 19:22 |
| rickspencer3 | but I seriously doubt this is going to happen | 19:23 |
| rickspencer3 | my point was just, we'll support cheese | 19:23 |
| rickspencer3 | it would suck to not have cheese for netbooks | 19:23 |
| bryyce | rickspencer3, btw dunno if you saw my blueprint update, but wacom tablets are still broken from the hal removal | 19:26 |
| * mvo celebrates commit r500 in software-center | 19:28 | |
| rickspencer3 | bummmer | 19:29 |
| rickspencer3 | bryyce, what's the plan? | 19:29 |
| * rickspencer3 high fives mvo | 19:30 | |
| bryyce | rickspencer3, I added a note about it in the release notes | 19:30 |
| rickspencer3 | bryyce, do you envision being fixed for a3? | 19:31 |
| bryyce | rickspencer3, I hope so. We're stuck waiting on upstream to do the development work to move from hal to udev | 19:31 |
| * rickspencer3 nods | 19:32 | |
| rickspencer3 | bryyce, let's strive to hold back on commitments to make sure we have bandwidth post a3 to address issues like this | 19:32 |
| * rickspencer3 subtly reinforces point from last team meeting | 19:33 | |
| bryyce | I notice from the burn-down charts that we still have more tasks to do than we've done so far ;-) | 19:33 |
| rickspencer3 | bryyce, right | 19:34 |
| rickspencer3 | so we know for a fact we aren't going to get them all done | 19:34 |
| rickspencer3 | so we should decide now what's not going to get done | 19:34 |
| rickspencer3 | dissapoint people now, rather than suprise and piss them off later | 19:35 |
| rickspencer3 | ;) | 19:35 |
| bryyce | yeah... and I know I've been neglecting bug triaging in order to get all the a2 tasks done | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | sigh | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | seb128, seems some of the DX packages aren't uploadable by ~ubuntu-desktop for lucid, but they are for karmic | 19:47 |
| seb128 | re | 19:56 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I can sponsor but not fix upload rights | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah, i asked cjwatson | 19:56 |
| seb128 | I noticed | 19:56 |
| seb128 | but in case he can't fix it today I can upload | 19:57 |
| seb128 | it's late in the week for new sources though | 19:57 |
| seb128 | we need an uploader and a reviewer to accept it | 19:57 |
| seb128 | and I think pitti left for the weekend | 19:57 |
| geser | yes, he left 2 hours ago | 19:59 |
| seb128 | ok... | 20:01 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, didrocks: where is the sprint next week btw? | 20:01 |
| seb128 | where in paris to be specific | 20:02 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | Hotel Caumartin | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | 29 Rue de Caumartin | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | 75009 Paris | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | we're actually staying at the hotel next door | 20:11 |
| baptistemm | nice place to stay it seems :) | 20:16 |
| baptistemm | lucky you | 20:16 |
| rickspencer3 | baptistemm, as I say, we are staying next door | 20:20 |
| rickspencer3 | probably a campground or something ;) | 20:20 |
| baptistemm | I'm not sure you can find one in Paris :) | 20:20 |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 20:20 |
| baptistemm | perhaps on the Champs de Mars :) | 20:20 |
| * rickspencer3 lunches | 20:20 | |
| rickspencer3 | bbl | 20:20 |
| baptistemm | just under the Effeil Tower feets :) | 20:21 |
| seb128 | lol | 20:22 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, thanks | 20:22 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, I think I will come for at least one day | 20:22 |
| seb128 | I might stay one night somewhere | 20:22 |
| seb128 | since return option suck for dinner | 20:22 |
| seb128 | ie train is 20:30 | 20:22 |
| seb128 | anyway we can discuss that next week | 20:23 |
| seb128 | enjoy lunch | 20:23 |
| seb128 | I will probable come on tuesday or wednesday | 20:23 |
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| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 20:35 |
| baptistemm | hey chrisccoulson | 20:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hey baptistemm, how are you? | 20:37 |
| baptistemm | fine, we reached the week end | 20:37 |
| chrisccoulson | baptistemm - yeah, i like the weekend :) | 20:40 |
| chrisccoulson | right, time for me to terminate my contract with my DSL provider :( | 20:42 |
| ccheney | asac: hmm maybe you were right about OOo, apparently it can't build because arm is in a bad state atm, kdelibs5-dev is uninstallable | 21:20 |
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| kenvandine | ccheney, i am actually having the same problem on amd64 | 21:20 |
| ccheney | OOo itself shouldn't take too long to build but requires things be installed, heh | 21:20 |
| ccheney | kenvandine: oh so just general kdelibs5-dev breakage i guess? | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | couldn't build jockey because it can't get kdelibs5-data | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | ccheney, sounds like it | 21:21 |
| ccheney | ok | 21:22 |
| ccheney | well OOo should be able to build by next thur hopefully | 21:23 |
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