[00:10] I'm without internet right now so searching forums is hard. anyone know if you can combine keyboard and mouse button presses for shortcuts? [00:10] on the ol android phone :p [00:16] SHould be able to; there are some already such as right-shift + left-mouse button to move a window [00:18] okay. my mouse also has forward and back buttons. how would I map those. [00:19] I don't know [00:19] its flipping hard to type as fast as a real keyboard with this virtual keyboard. so sorry if I'm slow to respond [00:19] Mine mapped themselves in apps that will use them [00:20] shoot. maybe ill just have to wait till I get internet again [00:20] I think they are mapped in /etc/xorg.conf, so it will take some research to find it [00:22] so can you change what your mouse shortcuts do? [00:24] where do You see those? [00:25] oh... xorg [00:25] Yeah, I think mouse buttons are done through xorg.conf. You probably have to create one, though [00:25] so its something like editing a file not changing a setting in A GUI [00:26] AFAIK [00:26] well ill look in xorg.conf [00:28] awe Poo... there's nothing in there :( [00:29] thus the "it'll take some research to find it" ... [00:29] and I have no idea what to put in there [00:30] yeah... and using my phone isn't exactly convenient. looks like I'll have to wait [00:30] !info xorg.conf [00:30] Package xorg.conf does not exist in karmic [00:30] but as far as you know this is possible? [00:30] yes [00:30] I checked when I bought the Logitech Track Ball [00:31] got like 7 buttons [00:31] I guess anything is possible with enough patients and determination [00:32] !xorg [00:32] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [00:32] nope [00:33] so what kind of shortcuts do You have setup? [00:33] This should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTroubleshooting [00:33] It gives some samples of xorg.conf [00:34] I have forward and back, and scroll forward and back on buttons [00:34] I'm specifically looking to do something like super forward to do next song in exaIle [00:35] All you need is to hit the ffw button in exaile with the left mouse button, it jumps to the next song [00:36] lol [00:36] Could someone tell me what the default music player is? [00:36] but I don't want the window open [00:36] exaile [00:36] jst: exaile [00:37] Thanks. [00:37] You are welcome [00:37] sure, make it complicated [00:37] what's listen for? is it just another option? [00:37] lol [00:37] yes, it is another music player. We used it as default in 9.04 [00:38] it doesn't work too well for me so I just use exaile [00:38] right, that was one of the reasons we switched to exaile in 9.10 [00:40] beauty :p [00:40] Also, is ALSA still used in Xubuntu 9.10? "alsaconfig" is not installed. [00:40] I think so... [00:40] n8 [00:41] the other option is oos isn't it? [00:41] Whoops, i meant "alsamixer." [00:42] Alsa-player and alsa-utils are used [00:42] but we are using Xfce4-mixer [00:42] PDG1: oos? [00:43] I can't remember what its called [00:43] i see [00:44] its an option other than alsa [00:44] But I think most systems use alsa [00:45] oss, I believe. That is quite old and not as good [00:48] yeah. so I've heard [00:49] no idea why someone would use it [00:50] because it works [00:51] but so does alsa on most machines. would oss work better on some older hardware do You think? [00:52] alsa works now, but oss is great for a fallback. Some of the old hardware won't use alsa [00:53] didn't know that. I thought alsa worked on pretty much anything [00:53] Well, old = isa [00:53] My systems may not be quite new anymore [00:54] I see [00:54] They only issue I ran into is an old ISA network card that won't work [00:55] charlie-tca, did they EVER work? [00:55] * knome hides [00:56] of course [00:56] yeah, that's why I like Xubuntu. works well on most of my cheap as free computers that are usually pretty old [00:56] somebody gave me a new system, and most of the components appear to be bad [00:57] new = amd 32 bit 1000MHz cpu, 384MB ram, ... [00:57] cost me ram, hard drives, and cd drive so far [00:57] I was looking for a buntu to run on my old Craptop I just got 'for free' but view all seen to run too many resources [00:58] charlie-tca, hey! that has barely more ram than my GC [00:58] :] [00:58] increased ram to 512 [00:58] ooooooooh :o [00:58] zoom [00:58] but all these bad parts... Why would you give away a broken system? [00:58] Gaaaaaa!!! Jury Duty!!!! [00:59] This is not the time for that! [00:59] Pres-Gas: ha! have fun with that. Last time I got called they said no when I tried to explain that if they didn't do it, why were they going to trial? [01:00] heh, nice [01:00] That seemed to be considered a bad thing to think [01:01] Maybe it is just bad to think. [01:01] ...think? what's that? [01:01] any idea if there's a buntu that will run well with 128 RAM? [01:01] is it edible? [01:01] I am interested, and yet...wanting to actually work. [01:01] PDG1: server only [01:01] charlie-tca, or the minimal with CLI ;) [01:02] might actually run better... [01:02] well, yeah. either way there is no GUI [01:02] right now I've got puppy... but I grow tired of the system [01:02] hmmm, can a bad zip drive take out the cd drive? [01:02] Minimal... [01:02] Server still installs more software [01:02] anything is possible... [01:03] Pres-Gas, i'd be surprised if it didn't ;) [01:03] charlie-tca, is it in the same ata chain? [01:03] yes [01:03] lol, knome [01:03] well... is there like... something with openbox maybe... [01:03] cd primary, zip secondary on the same controller [01:03] anyways... extended away = me [01:04] PDG1, minimal + install openbox packages :P [01:04] charlie-tca, I have seen that happen...one device in the chain blowing the whole thing [01:04] Pres-Gas, can't promise it runs well with openbox installed though. [01:04] I would unplug the zip from both power and ata cable and see if the CD recovers, charlie-tca [01:04] I seen it blow out the floppy, and the floppy take out the zip. I just didn't realize it would take out the cd drive [01:04] yeah, I already tried that [01:05] Did the CD recover? [01:05] noo [01:05] fail :) [01:05] epic fail [01:05] same results both ways. Put a different cd drive in without the zip drive connected, it works [01:06] Power surge? [01:06] killed it, huh? [01:06] Prolly [01:06] no power surge that I know of [01:06] hmmm, charlie-tca [01:07] Might be just a bad cd drive, but I can't take a chance on killing another one yet [01:07] I have seen stranger things....then again I have seen those CRT iMacs blackened on the inside from smoking run like a champ. [01:07] charlie-tca, i can send a few replacement drives in the mail [01:07] * Pres-Gas vomits thinking about that [01:07] you got that many? [01:08] charlie-tca, yeah. going to throw lots of old stuff away. [01:08] well, not throw away but give away [01:08] Costs a lot to send in the mail. I'll probably go pick a couple again [01:09] i used to like to play with them but i don't seem to have that enthusiasm or the time anymore [01:09] you have to let go [01:09] I know, but I am trying to build a media center pc [01:09] and I want lots of storage options [01:10] didn't mean you. you still seem to have fun with those, that's great. i don't, so better give the stuff away [01:10] Time to go...have fun gentlepeeps [01:10] I don't do anymore that needed now, myself [01:10] get more storage space as well, but different type ;) [01:10] Yeah, probably pick up a dvd-rw for this machine too [01:11] well, i'd have at least one of those. [01:11] got one yesterday for US $40.00 [01:11] too bad you're so far away [01:11] I got three now [01:11] those cost about 22 euros here [01:11] I just been replacing the cd drives with them [01:11] == 31.5$ [01:11] not bad [01:11] yeah [01:12] rather just buy a new one if one breaks up [01:12] Yeah, but at one point I had about 12 sitting on the shelf [01:12] Now I got one [01:12] heh [01:13] i've been giving or throwing stuff away for the last year [01:13] i still want to get rid of more. [01:13] i really don't need all that. [01:14] I done some of that myself. I am down to two spare motherboards, finally [01:14] hah [01:14] i'm talking about everything else as well [01:14] like non-computer stuff [01:14] like... books [01:14] clothes [01:14] wife's [01:14] oh wait [01:15] I never give books away. I got reference books going back to the 1950's [01:15] i don't have a spare one [01:15] heh [01:15] no wife's given away ;) [01:15] you want a cobol-85 book? [01:15] got one [01:15] though i think i dumped it on the grabage bin already :P [01:15] good thing I didn't want it, then, [01:16] hehe yeah [01:16] would have had to track it down [01:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BYMvVvMg0 <- that's quite cool [01:27] I don't remember seeing a two-man guitar before [01:27] me neither [01:28] That's pretty good :-) [01:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdt4i3oyDJA ;) [01:28] even more weird [01:30] watch until ~1:10 when the second player starts also taking notes from below the neck [01:34] Okay, enough of that. It makes the head hurt watching it [01:34] hah [01:34] what about one man and two guitars? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqTd-CEjHM [01:34] Nah, my grandfather used to do that. Also, guitar, harmonica, and banjo together [01:36] new cd drive works; got a good install [01:36] good :) [01:36] yeah, it helps to be able to run two or three at a time on hardware [01:43] i think i'm heading to bed now [01:43] see you later and have a nice day/evening [01:56] goodnight, knome === Fluffy94 is now known as Awesome3000 [05:32] hi all. anyone available to help out a newbie real quick? [05:35] foxxspirits, whats the question? [05:38] having an issue with my sound. Although pulseaudio is showing that I should be getting some sound, nothing is coming from the speakers. I have tried going into the alsa mixer and changing the volume there to no effect, installed the libraries, and removed and reinstalled pulseaudio all to no effect. I had sound about 3 days ago, but when I turned off the computer and started it the next day, the sound was gone again :P [05:39] Can you check that the volume isn't muted? (its a bug that it gets muted on reboot) [05:40] yea. I noticed that, but it doesn't seem to make a difference one way or the other [05:42] I also tried removing pulseaudio and installing esound, but again to no avail :P [05:43] Tricky since who knows what sort of state your system is with audio related packages [05:47] yea. its a rather old laptop from HP too... gotten everything else to work just fine. can't seem to get the sound working to save my life tho. [06:02] hello [06:03] Does anyone know of a fix for this? When I hit mute on the keyboard, it mutes... by putting the volume all the way down. When I hit mute again, it does nothing to unmute. I have to then hit volume up to restore it to the level it used to be [06:10] ah ha, i think I got it.. [06:11] ok, well it's half working [06:12] now I have mute working and down, but not up.. [06:18] looks like i fixed it with a script online, and with some modding to it :) [06:18] hi [07:35] hey, I'm having some trouble getting an ssh (and/or FTP) connection to my new server, I keep getting the 'connection refused' error [09:35] how can i restore the taskbar in xfce, it has disappeared [09:42] hi . when i create a user besides root, does this user take space in my hdd? [09:54] <_Pete_> Tutattis: yes it does [09:54] _Pete_, about how much? [09:55] <_Pete_> home directory + some entries in /etc/ files [09:55] <_Pete_> couple of KBs [09:55] i installed the system on my 8gb flash [09:55] as a guide told me [09:56] but the man at the guide says to delete normal user after the installation to free up some space [09:56] (ubuntu 8.10 i used) [09:56] <_Pete_> what guide? [09:56] http://www.infosecramblings.com/backtrack/backtrack-4-bootable-usb-thumb-drive-with-full-disk-encryption/ [10:00] <_Pete_> so the guy in guide always runs root account [10:00] <_Pete_> "Most the time I end up running things as root anyway with Backtrack so why mess around? " [10:01] <_Pete_> which is still a bad idea [10:10] maybe because bt4 has some tools [10:10] that require root [10:11] and most people using it dont use it for everyday use [10:11] just for those tools [10:20] XUBUNTU 9.10 ROCKS!!!!! [10:21] xubuntu 9.10 is sucks xD [10:25] ;_; [10:25] whats the best one? [10:26] uhm [10:27] or, which do you prefer [10:28] brb [10:29] Ov3rf10w, which version do you prefer? [10:29] 9.04 [10:29] mmk [10:30] what is it about 9.10 that makes it sucks? [10:30] i'm running 9.10 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it [10:30] he was probably just being silly :) [10:32] well jaunty (9.04) was quite a lot better than intrepid (8.10), but karmic (9.10) wasn't *that* much better than jaunty which might lead somebody feeling that karmic would be a bad release [10:32] ok [10:32] but it definitely brought improvements [10:32] ...and if you install karmic, you can once skip one step in upgrading to ludid, 10.04, the lts release [10:33] whats lts? [10:34] (sorry i am noob to linux) [10:34] !lts | n0-n4m3 [10:34] n0-n4m3: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04). The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [10:34] ^_^ [10:35] can you define support? [10:36] support means updates in repositories [10:36] plus paid user support [10:36] ic [10:36] community user support will *probably* last longer than that [10:36] i have to go now [10:36] ciao [10:37] but have fun with xubuntu (and with whichever version you decide to choose) [10:37] so if you were to do a fresh install of a distro that was no longer 'supported' you wouldn't be able to get any updates [10:37] thanks =) === petsounds_ is now known as petsounds [13:12] does anyone know how to install the system sounds? [13:12] on xubuntu 9.04 [14:06] Hello [14:07] !hi [14:07] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines . Enjoy your stay! [14:08] I run Xubuntu and installed the HP software for my HP Printer. The installation goes fine but when it prints, it doesnt print anything. [14:12] the printer just swallows the paper and spits it back out. I hear "printing noise" but there is no ink on the paper. when I do test print, it prints, but the quality is bad (B/W) === hhlp_ is now known as hhlp [15:00] somone know how i write floppies in Xubuntu? [15:15] !mtools [15:15] !info mtools | bittin|_ [15:15] bittin|_: mtools (source: mtools): Tools for manipulating MSDOS files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.10-1 (karmic), package size 180 kB, installed size 464 kB [15:17] hello [15:18] i have a panasonic lumix dmc-ls70 digital camera [15:18] and xubuntu 9.10 doesn't recognise it [15:19] what can i do so i can acces it? [15:28] karmina, you could try using gthumb to import the photos, always works for me, though i use a canon [15:28] ok i'll try [15:30] Hello I just wanted to move huge date (7 gbyte) from HD to USB memory stick...after a long while I got an error message that several data could not be moved and since then my USB stick is not recognized [15:31] Sachse_Siechtum, well dont know about it not being recognized, but next time you try make sure it isnt formated as fat since this has a 2gb limit for single files [15:32] it had format as fat 32 since I also use the usb memory stick with windows [15:32] now I don't know how to access the usb stick [15:33] its shown nowhere [15:34] ablomen, it's not working... it doesn't recognise it and it doesn't appear in the software's catalog of cameras either [15:35] hmm, well you can always try and just mount the sdcard in it, if you have a card reader that is [15:38] well unfortunately i don't have a card reader :( [15:38] itsn't there a way to like "install it's driver" just like in win or something? [15:54] any suggestions anyone? === hhlp_ is now known as hhlp [16:16] hi [16:17] i did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but some of the packages it tried to upgrade werent fetched correctly [16:18] That happens sometimes if a server is down or something. [16:18] so i tried to do apt-get upgrade again [16:18] I'd recommend you go to Synaptic and change servers under the Repositories tab. [16:18] You can greatly speed up your downloads that way too. [16:18] to get the 1 missing file samdump2 [16:19] the upgrade failed again,couldnt get samdump2 or it was broken or osmething [16:19] so i did a apt-get remove samdump2 [16:19] and an apt-get autoremove [16:20] which removed all no longer needed packages [16:20] (the last one removed about 1500mb) [16:20] how do i fix it now? [16:20] (btw i did an apt-get clean at some point) [16:21] Uh... why did you remove samdump2? [16:21] cause the apt-get upgrade said [16:21] it cant be upgraded [16:21] or something [16:22] so i wanted to clean it and reinstall it [16:22] Well, follow my advice above first, then reinstall the package. [16:24] so i reinstall samdump2 [16:24] run apt-get upgrade [16:24] and i am done? [16:24] all removed packages will come back? [16:25] does apt-get solve missing dependancies? [16:25] with apt-get install? [16:25] No... you'd have to install each package individually. But if apt-get autoclean removed them, you don't need them. [16:25] And yes, apt-get solves dependencies. [16:26] i did an apt-get remove samdump2 [16:26] and then an autoclean [16:26] did the autoclean remove all samdump2 [16:26] dependancies? [16:26] so if i reinstall it automatically they will come back? [16:27] Yes. Just sudo apt-get install samdump2 (I don't even know what that package is)... [16:27] btw the autoclean i did afterwards [16:27] remove 1500mb of packages [16:29] 3000mb [16:29] around 560packages [16:29] how arent those needed? [16:29] and how do i get them back [16:30] HELP! My mic is not being recognized.... [16:30] anyone? [16:31] Calm down there, spacitymedic. [16:31] Give me a second to point you to some help. [16:33] sorry.... lol My internet is acting wacky. [16:33] But totally calm.. so what are my mic settings supposed to be? [16:34] likemindead, i get this error when i try to install postgresql [16:34] Starting PostgreSQL 8.3 database server: main* The PostgreSQL server failed to s [16:34] 2010-01-08 11:33:39 EST FATAL: could not load server certificate file "server.c [16:34] failed! [16:34] Have you checked all the audio settings? You should be able to select the hardware and various software options (ALSA, PulseAudio, OSS). [16:36] could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory [16:36] Timewarper, did you try a different server yet? [16:37] the problem is not the server [16:37] but this [16:37] could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or director [16:38] 08 11:37:28 EST FATAL: could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory [16:38] failed! [16:38] Starting PostgreSQL 8.3 database server: main* The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output: [16:42] likemindead, any idea? [16:43] Yes. Try switching servers in Synaptic. Then, if that doesn't work, we'll go from there. [17:26] y0 [17:27] jo [17:27] how to install englightment in xubuntu ? [17:27] Sachse_siechtum :D [17:27] !enlightment [17:28] :0 [17:28] ??? [17:28] what is enlightment? [17:28] lol i don't know in irc ppl are talking about lol [17:28] not in synaptic; you need to ask where you got it from... [17:28] ubottu, PING [17:28] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [17:29] !info enlightenment [17:29] Package enlightenment does not exist in karmic [17:29] !info e18 [17:29] Package e18 does not exist in karmic [17:29] :0 [17:29] hmmh [17:29] isn't it a wm? [17:29] :(( [17:29] charlie-tca, yes. [17:30] !wm [17:30] how can find that which version of ubuntu i am using ? [17:30] I just lost a USB 8Gbyte stick in Xubuntu :-( [17:30] shows in the grub bootmanager [17:30] nuker: lsb_release -rd in a terminal [17:31] Linux Mint 8 Helena sorry but its based on his dad ubuntu [17:31] Sachse_Siechtum: what version of Zubuntu are you using? [17:31] charlie-tca, zubuntu? :) [17:31] Xubuntu [17:32] keyboard rearranged itself [17:32] * charlie-tca hates when the keys move around [17:32] I'm using Xubuntu 9.10 [17:32] 9.10.16 [17:33] And what do you mean "lost a USB stick"? It just didn't show up? [17:33] You may have to manually mount it [17:33] I just moved about 6 gbyte from HD (vfat) to USb stick...and at the last files...I got an error message..."couldnt copy" ...and then my USB stick vanished [17:34] in windows XP it shows as "unknows device" in hardware manager" [17:34] unknown [17:34] is it formatted to fat32? [17:34] \was [17:34] yes [17:35] I know the limit for fat 32 is 2 gbyte [17:35] fat32 can't handle over 4gb files [17:35] but there wasnt a file over that limit [17:35] have you tried to format that dire? [17:35] I cant format what I cant see... [17:36] and I wanna save the data on it...because its pretty valuable [17:42] :S [17:49] Jury duty done. W00t! [17:49] yay [17:49] jury duty? [17:50] it's an american thing [17:50] I see [17:51] the people are called to be the jury in a criminal/civil court trial [17:51] ah I know. :-) [17:52] Sachse_Siechtum: http://www.familyfriendlyjuryduty.org/JuryDutySystem/JuryDutySystem.htm [17:52] Sorry for the off topic messages. 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