[00:10] <PDG1> I'm without internet right now so searching forums is hard.  anyone know if you can combine keyboard and mouse button presses for shortcuts?
[00:10] <PDG1> on the ol android phone :p
[00:16] <charlie-tca> SHould be able to; there are some already such as right-shift + left-mouse button to move a window
[00:18] <PDG1> okay.  my mouse also has forward and back buttons.  how would I map those.
[00:19] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[00:19] <PDG1> its flipping hard to type as fast as a real keyboard with this virtual keyboard. so sorry if I'm slow to respond
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Mine mapped themselves in apps that will use them
[00:20] <PDG1> shoot.  maybe ill just have to wait till I get internet again
[00:20] <charlie-tca> I think they are mapped in /etc/xorg.conf, so it will take some research to find it
[00:22] <PDG1> so can you change what your mouse shortcuts do?
[00:24] <PDG1> where do You see those?
[00:25] <PDG1> oh... xorg
[00:25] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I think mouse buttons are done through xorg.conf. You probably have to create one, though
[00:25] <PDG1> so its something like editing a file not changing a setting in A GUI
[00:26] <charlie-tca> AFAIK
[00:26] <PDG1> well ill look in xorg.conf
[00:28] <PDG1> awe Poo... there's nothing in there :(
[00:29] <charlie-tca> thus the "it'll take some research to find it" ...
[00:29] <PDG1> and I have no idea what to put in there
[00:30] <PDG1> yeah... and using my phone isn't exactly convenient. looks like I'll have to wait
[00:30] <charlie-tca> !info xorg.conf
[00:30] <PDG1> but as far as you know this is possible?
[00:30] <charlie-tca> yes
[00:30] <charlie-tca> I checked when I bought the Logitech Track Ball
[00:31] <charlie-tca> got like 7 buttons
[00:31] <PDG1> I guess anything is possible with enough patients and determination
[00:32] <charlie-tca> !xorg
[00:32] <charlie-tca> nope
[00:33] <PDG1> so what kind of shortcuts do You have setup?
[00:33] <charlie-tca> This should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTroubleshooting
[00:33] <charlie-tca> It gives some samples of xorg.conf
[00:34] <charlie-tca> I have forward and back, and scroll forward and back on buttons
[00:34] <PDG1> I'm specifically looking to do something like super forward to do next song in exaIle
[00:35] <charlie-tca> All you need is to hit the ffw button in exaile with the left mouse button, it jumps to the next song
[00:36] <PDG1> lol
[00:36] <jst> Could someone tell me what the default music player is?
[00:36] <PDG1> but I don't want the window open
[00:36] <charlie-tca> exaile
[00:36] <charlie-tca> jst: exaile
[00:37] <jst> Thanks.
[00:37] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[00:37] <charlie-tca> sure, make it complicated
[00:37] <PDG1> what's listen for?  is it just another option?
[00:37] <PDG1> lol
[00:37] <charlie-tca> yes, it is another music player. We used it as default in 9.04
[00:38] <PDG1> it doesn't work too well for me so I just use exaile
[00:38] <charlie-tca> right, that was one of the reasons we switched to exaile in 9.10
[00:40] <PDG1> beauty :p
[00:40] <jst> Also, is ALSA still used in Xubuntu 9.10?  "alsaconfig" is not installed.
[00:40] <PDG1> I think so...
[00:40] <march> n8
[00:41] <PDG1> the other option is oos isn't it?
[00:41] <jst> Whoops, i meant "alsamixer."
[00:42] <charlie-tca> Alsa-player and alsa-utils are used
[00:42] <charlie-tca> but we are using Xfce4-mixer
[00:42] <charlie-tca> PDG1: oos?
[00:43] <PDG1> I can't remember what its called
[00:43] <charlie-tca> i see
[00:44] <PDG1> its an option other than alsa
[00:44] <PDG1> But I think most systems use alsa
[00:45] <charlie-tca> oss, I believe. That is quite old and not as good
[00:48] <PDG1> yeah.  so I've heard
[00:49] <PDG1> no idea why someone would use it
[00:50] <charlie-tca> because it works
[00:51] <PDG1> but so does alsa on most machines. would oss work better on some older hardware do You think?
[00:52] <charlie-tca> alsa works now, but oss is great for a fallback. Some of the old hardware won't use alsa
[00:53] <PDG1> didn't know that.  I thought alsa worked on pretty much anything
[00:53] <charlie-tca> Well, old = isa
[00:53] <charlie-tca> My systems may not be quite new anymore
[00:54] <PDG1> I see
[00:54] <charlie-tca> They only issue I ran into is an old ISA network card that won't work
[00:55] <knome> charlie-tca, did they EVER work?
[00:55]  * knome hides
[00:56] <charlie-tca> of course
[00:56] <PDG1> yeah, that's why I like Xubuntu. works well on most of my cheap as free computers that are usually pretty old
[00:56] <charlie-tca> somebody gave me a new system, and most of the components appear to be bad
[00:57] <charlie-tca> new = amd 32 bit 1000MHz cpu, 384MB ram, ...
[00:57] <charlie-tca> cost me ram, hard drives, and cd drive so far
[00:57] <PDG1> I was looking for a buntu to run on my old Craptop I just got 'for free' but view all seen to run too many resources
[00:58] <knome> charlie-tca, hey! that has barely more ram than my GC
[00:58] <knome> :]
[00:58] <charlie-tca> increased ram to 512
[00:58] <knome> ooooooooh :o
[00:58] <PDG1> zoom
[00:58] <charlie-tca> but all these bad parts... Why would you give away a broken system?
[00:58] <Pres-Gas> Gaaaaaa!!! Jury Duty!!!!
[00:59] <Pres-Gas> This is not the time for that!
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Pres-Gas: ha! have fun with that. Last time I got called they said no when I tried to explain that if they didn't do it, why were they going to trial?
[01:00] <Pres-Gas> heh, nice
[01:00] <charlie-tca> That seemed to be considered a bad thing to think
[01:01] <Pres-Gas> Maybe it is just bad to think.
[01:01] <knome> ...think? what's that?
[01:01] <PDG1> any idea if there's a buntu that will run well with 128 RAM?
[01:01] <knome> is it edible?
[01:01] <Pres-Gas> I am interested, and yet...wanting to actually work.
[01:01] <charlie-tca> PDG1: server only
[01:01] <knome> charlie-tca, or the minimal with CLI ;)
[01:02] <knome> might actually run better...
[01:02] <charlie-tca> well, yeah. either way there is no GUI
[01:02] <PDG1> right now I've got puppy... but I grow tired of the system
[01:02] <charlie-tca> hmmm, can a bad zip drive take out the cd drive?
[01:02] <Pres-Gas> Minimal...
[01:02] <Pres-Gas> Server still installs more software
[01:02] <knome> anything is possible...
[01:03] <knome> Pres-Gas, i'd be surprised if it didn't ;)
[01:03] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca, is it in the same ata chain?
[01:03] <charlie-tca> yes
[01:03] <Pres-Gas> lol, knome
[01:03] <PDG1> well... is there like... something with openbox maybe...
[01:03] <charlie-tca> cd primary, zip secondary on the same controller
[01:03] <PDG1> anyways... extended away = me
[01:04] <knome> PDG1, minimal + install openbox packages :P
[01:04] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca, I have seen that happen...one device in the chain blowing the whole thing
[01:04] <knome> Pres-Gas, can't promise it runs well with openbox installed though.
[01:04] <Pres-Gas> I would unplug the zip from both power and ata cable and see if the CD recovers, charlie-tca
[01:04] <charlie-tca> I seen it blow out the floppy, and the floppy take out the zip. I just didn't realize it would take out the cd drive
[01:04] <charlie-tca> yeah, I already tried that
[01:05] <Pres-Gas> Did the CD recover?
[01:05] <charlie-tca> noo
[01:05] <knome> fail :)
[01:05] <Pres-Gas> epic fail
[01:05] <charlie-tca> same results both ways. Put a different cd drive in without the zip drive connected, it works
[01:06] <Pres-Gas> Power surge?
[01:06] <charlie-tca> killed it, huh?
[01:06] <Pres-Gas> Prolly
[01:06] <charlie-tca> no power surge that I know of
[01:06] <Pres-Gas> hmmm, charlie-tca
[01:07] <charlie-tca> Might be just a bad cd drive, but I can't take a chance on killing another one yet
[01:07] <Pres-Gas> I have seen stranger things....then again I have seen those CRT iMacs blackened on the inside from smoking run like a champ.
[01:07] <knome> charlie-tca, i can send a few replacement drives in the mail
[01:07]  * Pres-Gas vomits thinking about that
[01:07] <charlie-tca> you got that many?
[01:08] <knome> charlie-tca, yeah. going to throw lots of old stuff away.
[01:08] <knome> well, not throw away but give away
[01:08] <charlie-tca> Costs a lot to send in the mail. I'll probably go pick a couple again
[01:09] <knome> i used to like to play with them but i don't seem to have that enthusiasm or the time anymore
[01:09] <knome> you have to let go
[01:09] <charlie-tca> I know, but I am trying to build a media center pc
[01:09] <charlie-tca> and I want lots of storage options
[01:10] <knome> didn't mean you. you still seem to have fun with those, that's great. i don't, so better give the stuff away
[01:10] <Pres-Gas> Time to go...have fun gentlepeeps
[01:10] <charlie-tca> I don't do anymore that needed now, myself
[01:10] <knome> get more storage space as well, but different type ;)
[01:10] <charlie-tca> Yeah, probably pick up a dvd-rw for this machine too
[01:11] <knome> well, i'd have at least one of those.
[01:11] <charlie-tca> got one yesterday for US $40.00
[01:11] <knome> too bad you're so far away
[01:11] <charlie-tca> I got three now
[01:11] <knome> those cost about 22 euros here
[01:11] <charlie-tca> I just been replacing the cd drives with them
[01:11] <knome> == 31.5$
[01:11] <charlie-tca> not bad
[01:11] <knome> yeah
[01:12] <knome> rather just buy a new one if one breaks up
[01:12] <charlie-tca> Yeah, but at one point I had about 12 sitting on the shelf
[01:12] <charlie-tca> Now I got one
[01:12] <knome> heh
[01:13] <knome> i've been giving or throwing stuff away for the last year
[01:13] <knome> i still want to get rid of more.
[01:13] <knome> i really don't need all that.
[01:14] <charlie-tca> I done some of that myself. I am down to two spare motherboards, finally
[01:14] <knome> hah
[01:14] <knome> i'm talking about everything else as well
[01:14] <knome> like non-computer stuff
[01:14] <knome> like... books
[01:14] <knome> clothes
[01:14] <knome> wife's
[01:14] <knome> oh wait
[01:15] <charlie-tca> I never give books away. I got reference books going back to the 1950's
[01:15] <knome> i don't have a spare one
[01:15] <charlie-tca> heh
[01:15] <knome> no wife's given away ;)
[01:15] <knome> you want a cobol-85 book?
[01:15] <charlie-tca> got one
[01:15] <knome> though i think i dumped it on the grabage bin already :P
[01:15] <charlie-tca> good thing I didn't want it, then,
[01:16] <knome> hehe yeah
[01:16] <knome> would have had to track it down
[01:25] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4BYMvVvMg0 <- that's quite cool
[01:27] <charlie-tca> I don't remember seeing a two-man guitar before
[01:27] <knome> me neither
[01:28] <charlie-tca> That's pretty good :-)
[01:28] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdt4i3oyDJA ;)
[01:28] <knome> even more weird
[01:30] <knome> watch until ~1:10 when the second player starts also taking notes from below the neck
[01:34] <charlie-tca> Okay, enough of that. It makes the head hurt watching it
[01:34] <knome> hah
[01:34] <knome> what about one man and two guitars? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqTd-CEjHM
[01:34] <charlie-tca> Nah, my grandfather used to do that. Also, guitar, harmonica, and banjo together
[01:36] <charlie-tca> new cd drive works; got a good install
[01:36] <knome> good :)
[01:36] <charlie-tca> yeah, it helps to be able to run two or three at a time on hardware
[01:43] <knome> i think i'm heading to bed now
[01:43] <knome> see you later and have a nice day/evening
[01:56] <charlie-tca> goodnight, knome
[05:32] <foxxspirits> hi all. anyone available to help out a newbie real quick?
[05:35] <cody-somerville> foxxspirits, whats the question?
[05:38] <foxxspirits> having an issue with my sound. Although pulseaudio is showing that I should be getting some sound, nothing is coming from the speakers. I have tried going into the alsa mixer and changing the volume there to no effect, installed the libraries, and removed and reinstalled pulseaudio all to no effect. I had sound about 3 days ago, but when I turned off the computer and started it the next day, the sound was gone again :P
[05:39] <cody-somerville> Can you check that the volume isn't muted? (its a bug that it gets muted on reboot)
[05:40] <foxxspirits> yea. I noticed that, but it doesn't seem to make a difference one way or the other
[05:42] <foxxspirits> I also tried removing pulseaudio and installing esound, but again to no avail :P
[05:43] <cody-somerville> Tricky since who knows what sort of state your system is with audio related packages
[05:47] <foxxspirits> yea. its a rather old laptop from HP too... gotten everything else to work just fine. can't seem to get the sound working to save my life tho.
[06:02] <Cubey> hello
[06:03] <Cubey> Does anyone know of a fix for this? When I hit mute on the keyboard, it mutes... by putting the volume all the way down. When I hit mute again, it does nothing to unmute. I have to then hit volume up to restore it to the level it used to be
[06:10] <Cubey> ah ha, i think I got it..
[06:11] <Cubey> ok, well it's half working
[06:12] <Cubey> now I have mute working and down, but not up..
[06:18] <Cubey> looks like i fixed it with a script online, and with some modding to it :)
[06:18] <Cubey> hi
[07:35] <kazec> hey, I'm having some trouble getting an ssh (and/or FTP) connection to my new server, I keep getting the 'connection refused' error
[09:35] <howdeep> how can i restore the taskbar in xfce, it has disappeared
[09:42] <Tutattis> hi . when i create a user besides root, does this user take space in my hdd?
[09:54] <_Pete_> Tutattis: yes it does
[09:54] <Tutattis> _Pete_, about how much?
[09:55] <_Pete_> home directory + some entries in /etc/ files
[09:55] <_Pete_> couple of KBs
[09:55] <Tutattis> i installed the system on my 8gb flash
[09:55] <Tutattis> as a guide told me
[09:56] <Tutattis> but the man at the guide says to delete normal user after the installation to free up some space
[09:56] <Tutattis> (ubuntu 8.10 i used)
[09:56] <_Pete_> what guide?
[09:56] <Tutattis> http://www.infosecramblings.com/backtrack/backtrack-4-bootable-usb-thumb-drive-with-full-disk-encryption/
[10:00] <_Pete_> so the guy in guide always runs root account
[10:00] <_Pete_> "Most the time I end up running things as root anyway with Backtrack so why mess around? "
[10:01] <_Pete_> which is still a bad idea
[10:10] <Tutattis> maybe because bt4 has some tools
[10:10] <Tutattis> that require root
[10:11] <Tutattis> and most people using it dont use it for everyday use
[10:11] <Tutattis> just for those tools
[10:20] <n0-n4m3> XUBUNTU 9.10 ROCKS!!!!!
[10:21] <Ov3rf10w> xubuntu 9.10 is sucks xD
[10:25] <n0-n4m3> ;_;
[10:25] <n0-n4m3> whats the best one?
[10:26] <knome> uhm
[10:27] <n0-n4m3> or, which do you prefer
[10:28] <n0-n4m3> brb
[10:29] <n0-n4m3> Ov3rf10w, which version do you prefer?
[10:29] <Ov3rf10w> 9.04
[10:29] <n0-n4m3> mmk
[10:30] <n0-n4m3> what is it about 9.10 that makes it sucks?
[10:30] <knome> i'm running 9.10 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it
[10:30] <n0-n4m3> he was probably just being silly :)
[10:32] <knome> well jaunty (9.04) was quite a lot better than intrepid (8.10), but karmic (9.10) wasn't *that* much better than jaunty which might lead somebody feeling that karmic would be a bad release
[10:32] <n0-n4m3> ok
[10:32] <knome> but it definitely brought improvements
[10:32] <knome> ...and if you install karmic, you can once skip one step in upgrading to ludid, 10.04, the lts release
[10:33] <n0-n4m3> whats lts?
[10:34] <n0-n4m3> (sorry i am noob to linux)
[10:34] <knome> !lts | n0-n4m3
[10:34] <n0-n4m3> ^_^
[10:35] <n0-n4m3> can you define support?
[10:36] <knome> support means updates in repositories
[10:36] <knome> plus paid user support
[10:36] <n0-n4m3> ic
[10:36] <knome> community user support will *probably* last longer than that
[10:36] <knome> i have to go now
[10:36] <n0-n4m3> ciao
[10:37] <knome> but have fun with xubuntu (and with whichever version you decide to choose)
[10:37] <n0-n4m3> so if you were to do a fresh install of a distro that was no longer 'supported' you wouldn't be able to get any updates
[10:37] <n0-n4m3> thanks =)
[13:12] <Ov3rf10w> does anyone know how to install the system sounds?
[13:12] <Ov3rf10w> on xubuntu 9.04
[14:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello
[14:07] <Sysi> !hi
[14:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> I run Xubuntu and installed the HP software for my HP Printer. The installation goes fine but when it prints, it doesnt print anything.
[14:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> the printer just swallows the paper and spits it back out. I hear "printing noise" but there is no ink on the paper. when I do test print, it prints, but the quality is bad (B/W)
[15:00] <bittin|_> somone know how i write floppies in Xubuntu?
[15:15] <TheSheep> !mtools
[15:15] <TheSheep> !info mtools | bittin|_
[15:17] <karmina> hello
[15:18] <karmina> i have a panasonic lumix dmc-ls70 digital camera
[15:18] <karmina> and xubuntu 9.10 doesn't recognise it
[15:19] <karmina> what can i do so i can acces it?
[15:28] <ablomen> karmina, you could try using gthumb to import the photos, always works for me, though i use a canon
[15:28] <karmina> ok i'll try
[15:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello I just wanted to move huge date (7 gbyte) from HD to USB memory stick...after a long while I got an error message that several data could not be moved and since then my USB stick is not recognized
[15:31] <ablomen> Sachse_Siechtum, well dont know about it not being recognized, but next time you try make sure it isnt formated as fat since this has a 2gb limit for single files
[15:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> it had format as fat 32 since I also use the usb memory stick with windows
[15:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> now I don't know how to access the usb stick
[15:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> its shown nowhere
[15:34] <karmina> ablomen, it's not working... it doesn't recognise it and it doesn't appear in the software's catalog of cameras either
[15:35] <ablomen> hmm, well you can always try and just mount the sdcard in it, if you have a card reader that is
[15:38] <karmina> well unfortunately i don't have a card reader :(
[15:38] <karmina> itsn't there a way to like "install it's driver" just like in win or something?
[15:54] <karmina> any suggestions anyone?
[16:16] <Timewarper> hi
[16:17] <Timewarper> i did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but some of the packages it tried to upgrade werent fetched correctly
[16:18] <likemindead> That happens sometimes if a server is down or something.
[16:18] <Timewarper> so i tried to do apt-get upgrade again
[16:18] <likemindead> I'd recommend you go to Synaptic and change servers under the Repositories tab.
[16:18] <likemindead> You can greatly speed up your downloads that way too.
[16:18] <Timewarper> to get the 1 missing file samdump2
[16:19] <Timewarper> the upgrade failed again,couldnt get samdump2 or it was broken or osmething
[16:19] <Timewarper> so i did a apt-get remove samdump2
[16:19] <Timewarper> and an apt-get autoremove
[16:20] <Timewarper> which removed all no longer needed packages
[16:20] <Timewarper> (the last one removed about 1500mb)
[16:20] <Timewarper> how do i fix it now?
[16:20] <Timewarper> (btw i did an apt-get clean at some point)
[16:21] <likemindead> Uh... why did you remove samdump2?
[16:21] <Timewarper> cause the apt-get upgrade said
[16:21] <Timewarper> it cant be upgraded
[16:21] <Timewarper> or something
[16:22] <Timewarper> so i wanted to clean it and reinstall it
[16:22] <likemindead> Well, follow my advice above first, then reinstall the package.
[16:24] <Timewarper> so i reinstall samdump2
[16:24] <Timewarper> run apt-get upgrade
[16:24] <Timewarper> and i am done?
[16:24] <Timewarper> all removed packages will come back?
[16:25] <Timewarper> does apt-get solve missing dependancies?
[16:25] <Timewarper> with apt-get install?
[16:25] <likemindead> No... you'd have to install each package individually. But if apt-get autoclean removed them, you don't need them.
[16:25] <likemindead> And yes, apt-get solves dependencies.
[16:26] <Timewarper> i did an apt-get remove samdump2
[16:26] <Timewarper> and then an autoclean
[16:26] <Timewarper> did the autoclean remove all samdump2
[16:26] <Timewarper> dependancies?
[16:26] <Timewarper> so if i reinstall it automatically they will come back?
[16:27] <likemindead> Yes. Just sudo apt-get install samdump2 (I don't even know what that package is)...
[16:27] <Timewarper> btw the autoclean i did afterwards
[16:27] <Timewarper> remove 1500mb of packages
[16:29] <Timewarper> 3000mb
[16:29] <Timewarper> around 560packages
[16:29] <Timewarper> how arent those needed?
[16:29] <Timewarper> and how do i get them back
[16:30] <spacitymedic> HELP! My mic is not being recognized....
[16:30] <spacitymedic> anyone?
[16:31] <likemindead> Calm down there, spacitymedic.
[16:31] <likemindead> Give me a second to point you to some help.
[16:33] <spacitymedic> sorry.... lol My internet is acting wacky.
[16:33] <spacitymedic> But totally calm.. so what are my mic settings supposed to be?
[16:34] <Timewarper> likemindead, i get this error when i try to install postgresql
[16:34] <Timewarper> Starting PostgreSQL 8.3 database server: main* The PostgreSQL server failed to s
[16:34] <Timewarper> 2010-01-08 11:33:39 EST FATAL:  could not load server certificate file "server.c
[16:34] <Timewarper>  failed!
[16:34] <likemindead> Have you checked all the audio settings? You should be able to select the hardware and various software options (ALSA, PulseAudio, OSS).
[16:36] <Timewarper> could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory
[16:36] <likemindead> Timewarper, did you try a different server yet?
[16:37] <Timewarper> the problem is not the server
[16:37] <Timewarper> but this
[16:37] <Timewarper> could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or director
[16:38] <Timewarper> 08 11:37:28 EST FATAL:  could not load server certificate file "server.crt": No such file or directory
[16:38] <Timewarper>  failed!
[16:38] <Timewarper> Starting PostgreSQL 8.3 database server: main* The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output:
[16:42] <Timewarper> likemindead, any idea?
[16:43] <likemindead> Yes. Try switching servers in Synaptic. Then, if that doesn't work, we'll go from there.
[17:26] <nuker> y0
[17:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> jo
[17:27] <nuker> how to install englightment in xubuntu ?
[17:27] <nuker> Sachse_siechtum :D
[17:27] <charlie-tca> !enlightment
[17:28] <nuker> :0
[17:28] <nuker> ???
[17:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> what is enlightment?
[17:28] <nuker> lol i don't know in irc ppl are talking about lol
[17:28] <charlie-tca> not in synaptic; you need to ask where you got it from...
[17:28] <knome> ubottu, PING
[17:29] <knome> !info enlightenment
[17:29] <knome> !info e18
[17:29] <nuker> :0
[17:29] <knome> hmmh
[17:29] <charlie-tca> isn't it a wm?
[17:29] <nuker> :((
[17:29] <knome> charlie-tca, yes.
[17:30] <charlie-tca> !wm
[17:30] <nuker> how can find that which version of ubuntu i am using ?
[17:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just lost a USB 8Gbyte stick in Xubuntu :-(
[17:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> shows in the grub bootmanager
[17:30] <charlie-tca> nuker: lsb_release -rd  in a terminal
[17:31] <nuker> Linux Mint 8 Helena sorry but its based on his dad ubuntu
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Sachse_Siechtum: what version of Zubuntu are you using?
[17:31] <knome> charlie-tca, zubuntu? :)
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu
[17:32] <charlie-tca> keyboard rearranged itself
[17:32]  * charlie-tca hates when the keys move around
[17:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm using Xubuntu 9.10
[17:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> 9.10.16
[17:33] <charlie-tca> And what do you mean "lost a USB stick"? It just didn't show up?
[17:33] <charlie-tca> You may have to manually mount it
[17:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just moved about 6 gbyte from HD (vfat) to USb stick...and at the last files...I got an error message..."couldnt copy" ...and then my USB stick vanished
[17:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> in windows XP it shows as "unknows device" in hardware manager"
[17:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> unknown
[17:34] <Sysi> is it formatted to fat32?
[17:34] <Sysi> \was
[17:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[17:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know the limit for fat 32 is 2 gbyte
[17:35] <Sysi> fat32 can't handle over 4gb files
[17:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> but there wasnt a file over that limit
[17:35] <Sysi> have you tried to format that dire?
[17:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> I cant format what I cant see...
[17:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I wanna save the data on it...because its pretty valuable
[17:42] <nuker> :S
[17:49] <Pres-Gas> Jury duty done.  W00t!
[17:49] <charlie-tca> yay
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> jury duty?
[17:50] <charlie-tca> it's an american thing
[17:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see
[17:51] <charlie-tca> the people are called to be the jury in a criminal/civil court trial
[17:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah I know. :-)
[17:52] <Pres-Gas> Sachse_Siechtum: http://www.familyfriendlyjuryduty.org/JuryDutySystem/JuryDutySystem.htm
[17:52] <Pres-Gas> Sorry for the off topic messages.
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> np
[17:54]  * Pres-Gas resumes support/lurk mode
[18:15] <Pres-Gas> Looks like VMware Workstation, the VMware tools are now distro agnostic.
[18:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> Is there any USB flashdrive compression tool for Xubuntu?
[18:34] <Sysi> gparted
[18:35] <Sysi> i think it comes by default
[18:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm ok :-)
[18:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> Thanks. :-)
[18:53] <oorah> is there an xubuntu netbook edition?
[18:53] <pingu> How do I make my terminal look like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tar_screenshot.png
[18:54] <likemindead> Change the font and colors.
[18:54] <TheSheep> pingu: what do you mean? it looks normal
[18:54] <likemindead> Use Tilda, FTW.
[18:57] <pingu> TheSheep: I have only white text
[18:58] <TheSheep> pingu: use some programs that use colors
[18:58] <pingu> Which?
[18:59] <oorah> is there an xubuntu netbook edition?
[18:59] <TheSheep> you can enable color ls for example with 'alias ls=ls --color=auto'
[19:00] <TheSheep> you can have a colorful prompt by redefinign the PS1 environment variable
[19:01] <TheSheep> for example http://forums.vandyke.com/archive/index.php/t-1366.html
[19:01] <knome> oorah, no, just the default ubuntu one.
[19:02] <oorah> knome, i wondery why
[19:02] <TheSheep> oorah: nobody made it
[19:03] <knome> oorah, you can install the netbook remix apps into xubuntu, afaik.
[19:03] <knome> oorah, i'm not sure if they work with xfce, though :P
[19:03] <knome> oorah, it's not a small job and xubuntu has a small memory footprint anyway
[19:04] <pingu> How did the user make everything appear in a different color? Isn't there a theme i can choose similar to sytax hightlighting in text editors?
[19:05] <TheSheep> pingu: no, each program is configured separately
[19:05] <pingu> But that's the standard terminal?
[19:06] <TheSheep> pingu: you can tweak tearminal's colors in the terminal settings, but changing them completely is usually a bad idead
[19:06] <TheSheep> pingu: more or less yes, maybe a different font and some changed colors
[19:07] <pingu> There is no option for giving special words or symbols special colors TheSheep
[19:08] <pingu> I can only change text and bg TheSheep
[19:08] <TheSheep> pingu: the colors are displayed by the program that you run
[19:08] <TheSheep> pingu: like 'ls'
[19:09] <TheSheep> pingu: it's not a feature of the terminal
[19:09] <pingu> And why is the user's nick displayed in green general?
[19:09] <pingu> And Dollar in blue
[19:10] <TheSheep> pingu: because that uses changed his PS1 environment variable to customize his prompt
[19:10] <TheSheep> pingu: and added some color codes to it
[19:10] <TheSheep> pingu: as it is explained at the link I gave you
[19:11] <pingu> TheSheep Is there any terminal which uses theme scripts?
[19:11] <TheSheep> I don't think so
[19:11] <pingu> Ugh
[19:12] <TheSheep> there might be some shells that do
[19:15] <pingu> TheSheep i found this: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bash/Prompt
[19:39] <oorah> how do i add pictures for user login?
[19:42] <TheSheep> oorah: you save them in a file called .face in the user's home directory
[19:42] <knome> TheSheep, what if i want pictures of... other body parts?
[19:42] <knome> do i name them .hand
[19:42] <knome> ;)
[19:42] <TheSheep> knome: gdm currently only supports faces
[19:43] <knome> damn.
[19:43] <TheSheep> knome: file a feature request
[19:43] <knome> do you think they will support feces in the future?
[19:43] <TheSheep> they do everywhere else, so why not
[19:43] <knome> yeah
[19:43] <knome> ;)
[19:43] <Sysi> if facebook don't own the license for faces
[19:43] <oorah> TheSheep, what do i do after i make the directory and put pictures there?
[19:44] <knome> oorah, /home/user_1/.face == user_1's face
[19:44] <TheSheep> oorah: it's not a directory, just name the picture file '.face'
[19:44] <knome> oorah, /home/user_2/.face == user_2's face
[19:45] <TheSheep> knome: they actually used to use ~/.gnome/photo, but switched to ~/.face because some users wanted to use drawings instead of photos ;)
[19:45] <oorah> so all i gotta do is name a picture .face?
[19:45] <TheSheep> yes
[19:45] <oorah> ok thanks brb
[19:46] <knome> TheSheep, right. how important the change was... i hope they fixed a ton of other bugs - i mean, it must have taken forever to settle and agree on a new filename..
[19:47] <TheSheep> do I detect irony?
[19:47] <oorah> ok have a picture saved as .face now what?
[19:47] <TheSheep> oorah: you are done
[19:47] <knome> TheSheep, oh no, not in the slightest amount.. ;)
[19:47] <oorah> TheSheep, so i login and its automatically set?
[19:48] <TheSheep> oorah: magic :)
[19:48] <oorah> that was easy, thanks
[19:48] <TheSheep> I actually just googled for it, btw
[19:48] <TheSheep> I'm not that smart really
[19:48] <oorah> i'm about to try out moblin, hope it works on my msi  wind u100
[19:48] <oorah> haha i do that a lot
[19:49] <Sysi> i didn't like moblin
[19:49] <TheSheep> disconnect me and my iq drops by 400
[19:49] <oorah> should it work on msi wind u100?
[19:49] <TheSheep> let me google that ;)
[19:49] <Sysi> oh, i tested just the desktop
[19:49] <oorah> i took an i.q. test and the results came back negative
[19:49] <Sysi> on fedora with eee-kernel
[19:49] <TheSheep> oorah: good, you'll live!
[19:50] <oorah> with a low i.q., i sure hope so
[19:50] <oorah> i start school monday
[19:50] <oorah> gonna be a medical assistant
[19:50] <TheSheep> if ignorance is bliss, it is fooly to be wise
[19:50] <knome> oorah, oh i thought the first class :P
[19:51] <oorah> my last day at work was yesterday, so gotta get a weekend job cause the G.I. bill pays for school and for living expenses its only 966/month which i can live on but wanna save as much as possible
[19:52] <TheSheep> ah, paid school, you have that weirdness in there, poor you
[19:52] <oorah> whoever said words for the wise when its the ignorant people that need the advice?
[19:53] <oorah> what is daylight savings time? and if we're saving so much of it, who's got it all?
[19:53] <TheSheep> I'm afraid we only answer xubuntu-related questions here
[19:53] <oorah> i know just being funny
[19:53] <knome> TheSheep++
[19:53] <knome> TheSheep, THAT was funny :P
[19:54] <oorah> i'm putting up a mean lookin picture for the login
[19:54] <charlie-tca> :-)
[19:55] <TheSheep> oorah: sorry
[19:55] <oorah> TheSheep, what weirdness in me? lol
[19:56]  * TheSheep goes to xubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <Sysi> hmm, i may should join there also
[19:56] <Sysi> too many channels :/
[19:56]  * charlie-tca thinks it's lonely there
[19:57] <oorah> i like the look of xat chats better
[19:57] <oorah> i might make an xubuntu xat chat
[19:57] <knome> xat?
[19:58] <TheSheep> hint: /j #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <TheSheep> nudge nudge
[19:58] <knome> mah
[19:58] <knome> wink wink
[19:58] <knome> you know what i mean, eh?
[19:58] <oorah> yeah
[19:59] <oorah> its a cool lookin chat thing
[19:59] <oorah> xat.com always has a featured user chat on the home page, anyone can join or make one
[19:59] <Balsaq> hi knome, would it be possible for me to get a cloak that includes the name xubuntu instead of this unafilliated one i am sporting now?
[20:00] <oorah> Balsaq, hey good to see ya again, and yes you can have stuff custom made at different stores
[20:00] <knome> Balsaq, the ubuntu cloaks can be acquired by ubuntu members
[20:00] <knome> !membership | Balsaq
[20:00] <oorah> i live just down the road from varietee's, they make custom stuff
[20:00] <Balsaq> oorah!
[20:00] <oorah> brb yall
[20:00] <Balsaq> i prefer an xubuntu cloak knome
[20:01] <knome> Balsaq, xubuntu cloaks are not available, and will not be. ask the ubuntu irc team if you need more explanations.
[20:01] <Balsaq> o
[20:02] <oorah> hey the picture thing didn't work
[20:02] <oorah> there is still no picture at login
[20:02] <knome> TheSheep, oorah: looks like gdm only supported feces, not faces
[20:02] <oorah> yeah right lol
[20:03] <oorah> Balsaq, can i use your name for my ps3 online?
[20:03] <TheSheep> oorah: you can use the gui to set it up too
[20:03] <oorah> TheSheep, how do i do that?
[20:03] <Balsaq> what is that oorah?
[20:04] <TheSheep> oorah: no, wait, it was with the old gdm
[20:04] <knome> TheSheep, you mean the sucky gdmsetup gui that has what... two options? :P
[20:04] <TheSheep> they 'improved' new gdm by removing all features from it
[20:04] <knome> yeah
[20:04] <knome> what... features? boring.
[20:05] <oorah> hey, its not showing up where i saved a picture online
[20:05] <Sysi> features still are there, there just isn't setup
[20:05] <oorah> i saved it to pictures, nothing there
[20:06] <oorah> is it possible to right click and save pictures anymore? this is weird
[20:08] <oorah> Balsaq, can i use your nickname for online games on my ps3?
[20:10] <Sysi> why you don't get own?
[20:11] <Sysi> Balsaq's not that special :P
[20:13] <oorah> right now i'm using robertzaccour
[20:16] <oorah> is it possible to select a picture for users at startup?
[20:22] <Balsaq> my name will be famous!
[20:34] <oorah> hey yall i'm back
[20:34] <oorah> did yall miss me?? lol jk
[20:34] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:35] <oorah> how do i put up a picture for the login screen?
[20:44] <Balsaq> i-kirjain raivo sisu kas noin. i-kirjain osata se on haikea aika ainoastaan ajaa ei murheissaan , i-kirjain jälkisäädös edestakainen aikaisin.
[20:45] <charlie-tca> did it hurt?
[20:45] <TheSheep> nie rozumiem ani słowa z tego, co on powiedział :)
[20:45] <charlie-tca> that hurt
[20:50] <knome> that didn't make any sense.
[20:50]  * charlie-tca thinks so too
[20:52] <knome> ugh, it's cold here
[20:53] <charlie-tca> yeah, that seems like it is all over the world now. We are kinda warm, though. 26 degrees F
[20:54] <knome> charlie-tca, -17c (1.4F) here
[20:54] <TheSheep> uhm
[20:54] <TheSheep> wrong channel
[20:54] <charlie-tca> ouch. They got that 200 miles east of me
[20:54] <charlie-tca> sorry, TheSheep
[21:46] <javatexan> help...if I install the nvidia version 185 in the "hardware drivers", I cannot login to my computer afterwards...the only way back seems to be sudo apt-get purge and then rm the xorg.conf.   I am running latest 9.10 Xubuntu with xfce on Dell E6500.  Unfortunately I need the nvidia drivers to work with monitors at work
[21:47] <javatexan> anyone else seeing similar behavior?  I login it looks like it is going to work and the returns to the login screen....
[21:49] <TheSheep> javatexan: try disabling compositing
[21:50] <javatexan> TheSheep: the xfce compositing is off
[21:50] <TheSheep> anything in logs?
[21:50] <javatexan> in the "window manager tweaks"
[21:51] <TheSheep> /var/log/Xorg.something and ~/.xsessionerrors
[21:52] <javatexan> guess I will have to try it again to get those... ;)
[21:53] <TheSheep> dmesg may have something too
[22:36] <javatexan> TheSheep: that was weird. Its working now.  I had to delete my xorg.conf and let it create its own at login to work.
[22:37] <javatexan> I guess we will see how long it works.  ;)