[00:02] <titan_ark> Ah finally have it all working :)
[00:07] <Izinucs> coreyB libdvdcss or something like that. Ubottu will give you the link
[00:07] <Izinucs> !dvd | coreyB
[00:07] <Izinucs> !medibuntu | coreyB
[00:07] <coreyB> thanks
[00:08] <Izinucs> np
[00:09] <newbie123abc> where are KDE 4.4 RC1?
[00:10] <newbie123abc> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Available-Now-KDE-Software-Compilation-4-4-RC1-131604.shtml
[00:10] <newbie123abc> say that packages are avaliable
[00:10] <newbie123abc> on ppa
[00:10] <newbie123abc> but don't appear, here
[00:11] <fire`lalala> newbie123abc: I don't think that info is correct
[00:11] <fire`lalala> kubuntu.org has no news, yet
[00:12] <fire`lalala> therefore I think it's not built/not uploaded or something like that
[00:12] <newbie123abc> on Fedora out, OpenSuse out, but us... :P
[00:14] <mochilero> Hi people. Can someone remind me where I go to change the number of recent items on the standard K menu, please?
[00:19] <mochilero> Anyone?
[00:19] <Dragnslcr> Right-click the icon and go to settings
[00:20] <mochilero> Dragnslcr: Thanks. Pretty obvious now I know where it is. For some reason I thought it was in System Settings...
[00:27] <Zhenya> hi guys, i have some quick questions. I've played around with kubuntu on live drive and ready to use it on my main machine, i will however like to keep xp for excel and some dj software. When i got install kubuntu i get 2 options 1 is to overwrite the whole drive (no way!) and the other is manually do the partitions can someone walk me through that so i dont destroy something but get two working oses on my machine!!
[00:32] <titan_ark> Zhenya, why dont you try the wubi installer? It is much safer.
[00:33] <Zhenya> titan_ark: i read that with the wubi it is not as stable, is that true? (sorry total n00b here)
[00:33] <titan_ark> I have been trying to install Kubuntu on my nitebook and something or the other doesn't seem to work. Finally gave up and using Ubuntu.
[00:33] <titan_ark> Well, I am a n00b myself. :P
[00:34] <titan_ark> Zhenya, I did do a dual boot a few years back. Really dont remember the steps. Its quite simple, you just need to be careful in one place where you are selecting the partitions.
[00:35] <titan_ark> Better still why dont you use a 3rd party tool in windows, create the swap and ext partition for Kubuntu and then start installing./
[00:35] <Nete> Is there any way in firefox to have pics download to pictures and everything else to downloads?
 is there some GUI tool for QoS????
[00:37] <titan_ark> Zhenya, in case you need help just ping, I could be able to take you through most of the way.
[00:37] <Zhenya> titan_ark: THANK YOU!
[00:38] <titan_ark> np :)
[00:38] <Zhenya> just moving some media files over to my extarnal drive to allow for more partition space:D
[00:38] <Zhenya> have you ever used linux mint?
[00:38] <titan_ark> but before you do anything, please back up all data :)
[00:38] <titan_ark> ah, nope. quite a n00b myself.
[00:38] <Zhenya> gotcha
[00:38] <Zhenya> i've been reading that mint is ever MORE for n00bers
[00:38] <Zhenya> but i think i'll try kubuntu
[00:39] <titan_ark> Used xubuntu for a few months on my old box and after I moved out my notebook has been totally incompatible
[00:39] <Zhenya> hmmm
[00:39] <titan_ark> well ubuntu and its variants are not very troublesome either :)
[00:39] <Zhenya> btw do you know if you can install Ubuntu Software center on Kubuntu?
[00:40] <titan_ark> IMO Ubuntu is best supported, its easier to find a solution on it
[00:40] <faileas> Zhenya: no reason you shouldn't be able to
[00:40] <titan_ark> sorry, no idea
[00:40] <Zhenya> ok cool :D
[00:40] <Zhenya> how come this channel is so much more dead than the ubuntu channel?
[00:40] <faileas> that i have no idea about
[00:41] <titan_ark> lol
[00:42] <Torch> Zhenya: there are a no problems with KDE ;-))
[00:42] <Zhenya> haha
[00:43] <faileas> lol
[00:43] <Zhenya> the ubuntu guys think that ubuntu is better
[00:43] <Zhenya> i just want the most stable modern looking thing that a n00b can use
[00:43] <titan_ark> :D
[00:43] <faileas> well personally, i suggest trying both if you can
[00:43] <titan_ark> No offence, but I would reccomend Ubuntu, especially if you are going to use it on a notebook.
[00:43] <faileas> *chuckles*
[00:44] <Torch> titan_ark: why's that?
[00:44] <titan_ark> Torch, I have been struggling with getting it going on mine to no avail.
[00:44] <faileas> i'm not fond of the two panel approach ubuntu uses. I also prefer konversation over xchat, and kopete over pidgin (haven't tried telepathy yet). Gnome didn't have a reasonable drop down terminal app till recently
[00:44] <titan_ark> Finally gave up and got Ubuntu on ow,
[00:44] <titan_ark> *now
[00:44] <fire`lala> I use kde on my notebook, and it work's fine
[00:45] <Torch> .. same here, obviously.
[00:45] <fire`lala> most of my problems were not kde specific
[00:45] <titan_ark> I too like the KDE flavor and spent all day yesterday.
[00:45] <titan_ark> I dunno if they were kde specific or not but
[00:45] <titan_ark> :P
[00:45]  * faileas has his box working well enough not to need help on this one ;p
[00:46] <titan_ark> :D
[00:46] <faileas> i actually am on cause i needed some help with my mongrel ubuntu system, and asked on the general channel (i call it emu. its an openbox based build ;p)
[00:46] <titan_ark> konversation looked and felt better on kubuntu than on Ubuntu
[00:47] <titan_ark> :(
[00:47] <faileas> cause its native
[00:48]  * faileas uses lostirc on non kde boxen. its lighter than xchat ;p
[00:49] <BluesKaj> I fail to see the appeal of xchat on any OS
[00:49] <faileas> BluesKaj: eh, its what almost every linux system comes with. its also half decent on some other OSes.
[00:49] <titan_ark> I am actually hoping to find someone help me get the kde on this Ubuntu install.
[00:49] <titan_ark> Is it possible?
[00:49] <OxDeadC0de> what the heck, in 9.10 the clock is skipping over all the 3's in the seconds, anyone else experience this?
[00:50] <faileas> titan_ark: sure. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , then use your desktop manager to choose which to boot into. However, i think *all* your apps, kde, or gnome will be in both, so your menus might be a little messy/full
[00:51] <faileas> titan_ark: if you just want basic kde, and don't mind adding what you need as you go along, swap kubuntu-desktop with kde-core - then install kde specific stuff as needed
[00:51] <titan_ark> faileas, hmmm thx :) and I will be able to roll back (just in case) right?
[00:51] <faileas> titan_ark: well, you can uninstall what was installed.
[00:52] <faileas> titan_ark: not sure if there's an automagical way to remove a metapackage tho
[00:52] <OxDeadC0de> srsly that's a little un nerving, my clcok skips all 3's in the seconds, makes me wonder if I'm time traveling or something skipping all the 3's.....
[00:52] <titan_ark> I am tired of the numerous reinstallaions of Win and (K)ubuntu over the last few days
[00:52] <OxDeadC0de> clock*
[00:52] <Torch> titan_ark: kde and gnome desktops are just packages within ubuntu. you can always switch between the two.
[00:52] <faileas> OxDeadC0de: are you working in a temporal anomaly? or is it a VM?
[00:52] <OxDeadC0de> neither afaik
[00:52] <titan_ark> Torch, hmmm
[00:52] <faileas> hmm
[00:52] <faileas> thats odd then
[00:52] <faileas> is it an old box?
[00:53] <OxDeadC0de> not really, it's running at 1.8ghz dual core
[00:53] <OxDeadC0de> not under a heavy load right now
[00:53] <faileas> naw, i was thinking maybe a cmos battery issue
[00:53] <OxDeadC0de> oh, well, it's about 2 yrs old laptop
[00:53] <fire`lala> why should that affect the clock?
[00:54] <Torch> faileas: that's only used as long as the system is off
[00:54] <faileas> Torch: hmm, point.
[00:54] <titan_ark> I wanted to verify if there are any issues with the kernel 2.6.31-17?
[00:54] <Torch> titan_ark: like?
[00:55] <Torch> (there are always issues with any kernel version so the question is bit broad...)
[00:55] <titan_ark> Cos, on a perfectly working system, on updating the kernel, I end up with a filesystem error and then cannot boot in.
[00:55] <titan_ark> Pardon such queries, I am quite a n00b
[00:56] <Torch> titan_ark: but you can boot with the older kernel again?
[00:56] <titan_ark> Yes.
[00:56] <Torch> titan_ark: ouch.
[00:56] <titan_ark> This is something I just noticed on my friend's notebook. He was working fine on 31-16 and when he updated to 17, it went kaboom.
[00:57] <titan_ark> Now he can boot into 16 but not 17.
[00:57] <Torch> titan_ark: but the only affected machine you saw is this notebook?
[00:57] <ilumi> anyone know how to force a resolution that is not available in the control panel?
[00:58] <titan_ark> We both have an almost same config. I was facing this issue too after a fresh install and doing all updates. when my friend updated to 17 and he got teh same error i thought of skipping it and now I am able to log in perfectly fine.
[00:59] <Torch> titan_ark: so i get this right, you did the upgrade to 17 and it works?
[00:59] <Roasted> what command can I run to generate an MD5 of a DVD? I want to check the MD5 sums before/after of this burn.
[00:59] <titan_ark> No, sorry for the confusion. When I upgrade to 17 even I cant boot in.
[00:59] <titan_ark> I am on 14 now,
[00:59] <titan_ark> Cos that is what was installed from the iso I DLed.
[01:00] <Torch> titan_ark: sounds bad.
[01:01] <Torch> titan_ark: fwiw i am on 17 and it works fine (the booting part... suspend is broken, but that's another story.)
[01:01] <titan_ark> hmmm
[01:01] <titan_ark> We seem to be getting a filesystem error on booting.
[01:01] <titan_ark> Hey, I also wanted to point out a wubi bug I came across yesterday.
[01:02] <Torch> Roasted: md5sum /dev/dvd
[01:02] <titan_ark> darkdelusions helped me find a workaround.
[01:02] <Torch> Roasted: be aware it will take a very long time
[01:02] <Roasted> :(
[01:02] <Roasted> long as in hours?
[01:02] <Torch> Roasted: depends. probalby not. but 20 minutes wouldn't be surprising.
[01:02] <titan_ark> In fact it is a reported bug, but still the new wubi is not on the Kubuntu site.
[01:02] <Roasted> ah, that aint so bad
[01:02] <Roasted> I was just hoping you werent referring to "let it run overnight" thing
[01:03] <Torch> Roasted: well, if your machine is 10 years old... ;-)
[01:03] <Roasted> 1 year :P
[01:05] <titan_ark> Torch, the wubi for kubuntu seems to be buggy :P
[01:05] <Torch> titan_ark: i have no idea about wubi, sorry. it's some ms windows try-out-thing, right?
[01:05] <titan_ark> yeah :D
[01:06] <titan_ark> Was trying it yesterday and it does not do its job right
[01:07] <titan_ark> darkdelusions helped me find a solution, it is a reported bug but still the corrected thingy is not on the site!
[01:07] <titan_ark> It would spare a lot of n00bs a lot of trouble.
[01:07] <Xaositect_> somewhy i think wubi have beed developed to work under wine xD
[01:08] <titan_ark> Isnt there a lubi for linux ? :D
[01:09] <titan_ark> My mic and webcam dont seem to be working :(
[01:09] <Xaositect_> ask them kindly xD
[01:10] <fire`lala> titan_ark: what mic do you use?
[01:10] <fire`lala> some onboard device?
[01:10] <fire`lala> or something "weird" like a bluetooth-thingie
[01:10] <titan_ark> I have an integrated array, (dunno which one) and also the 3.5 mm plug in
[01:11] <titan_ark> both dont work
[01:11] <fire`lala> perhaps you have to turn up the volume with alsamixer?
[01:11] <titan_ark> hmm gotta chk that
[01:13] <Xaositect_> so have anyone encounter gstreamer errors in songbird? >.<
[01:14]  * Xaositect_ plugs amp into flash mp3 T_T
[01:14] <OxDeadC0de> ilumi: you can add your own mode lines to xorg.conf but it always confused me what all the numbers were
[01:14] <ilumi> OxDeadC0de, i figured it out , thanks
[01:18] <titan_ark> fire`lala, no luck
[01:26] <titan_ark> gtg
[01:26] <titan_ark> cya everyone
[01:26] <contrast> What up, everyone...
[01:27] <contrast> Anyone using the 4.4 pre-release? I'm curious as to whether I should be patient and wait for the official release, or go ahead and take the plunge.
[01:53] <mefisto__> trying to use kdenlive, I can't play the project without kdenlive grinding to a halt and either freezing or crashing within a few seconds. also, audio is choppy. anyone have a clue?
[02:11] <contrast> mefisto__: What are your specs, and how "heavy" is the video you're trying to play (resolution, effects and transitions you've added, etc.)?
[02:13] <mefisto__> contrast: thanks, I solved it. it's a pulseaudio-related thing. installing libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio (which removes and replaces libsdl1.2debian-alsa) makes it work smoothly
[02:28] <contrast> mefisto__: good to know. btw, are you using the version from the Ubuntu repos? from my experience, 0.7.6 in the PPA is much more stable.
[02:28] <mefisto__> yes, from repos, but I think I'll try the PPA now. do you have a link handy?
[02:29] <contrast> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa
[02:30] <contrast> mefisto__: I'm guessing you have PulseAudio selected as the preferred output device in System Settings -> Multimedia?
[02:30] <contrast> (Just wondering, in case I ever run into the issue you were having.)
[02:30] <mefisto__> contrast: well I couldn't get any sound at all unless I left it at "automatic"
[02:30] <contrast> ~_^
[02:31] <mefisto__> I might try pulseaudio now and see what happens
[02:31] <contrast> pulseaudio's not installed by default in Kubuntu, although...
[02:31] <contrast> nope, nor is it a dependency of the package you just mentioned
[02:32] <contrast> if you wanna see how pulse fares on your system, just "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio" first.
[02:32] <mefisto__> ok, now all audio settings work
[02:33] <mefisto__> I have pulse installed. I believe it's installed by default in karmic
[02:34] <contrast> in ubuntu, maybe, but not in kubuntu.
[02:35] <contrast> (this is coming from a guy that's done ~a dozen kubuntu 9.10 installs between setting up friends and breaking his own systems. :P )
[02:38] <contrast> anyway, i'm off. g'nite.
[02:38] <mefisto__> contrast: well my experience tells me otherwise
[02:43] <_2> hmmm is there a package for jaunty of shrip ?
[02:45] <mefisto__> what's shrip?
[02:46] <_2> sh rip   dvd riping cli frontend
[02:46] <_2> links http://trac.handbrake.fr/browser/trunk/doc/BUILD-Linux
[02:47] <_2> err sorry shorten that to just the domain
[02:47] <mefisto__> nothing in repos. you can search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:29] <titan_ark> nice and quiet
[03:31] <happy> ECHO
[03:32] <happy> Echo
[03:32] <happy> echo
[03:33] <_2> echo -e '\a'
[03:37] <DAskreeCH> while 1
[03:41] <iatd> has anyone seen that avatar movie yey?
[03:43] <AABBCC> hiiiiiiii
[03:43] <happy> I am going to see it tomorrow
[03:43] <happy> hi
[03:43] <JCDG> At the end he dies...
[03:44] <Nafri> i am using kubuntu 9.10, when i use kaffeine media player, i can't Rewind/Forward flv.... but when I use smplayer flv works fine...
[03:44] <faileas> yes, but thats something for the offtopic channel ;p
[03:44] <AABBCC> first time using linux ;)
[03:44] <Nafri> is there anything wrong with kaffeine?
[03:44] <Fanfare> JCDG: spoiler
[03:44] <DAskreeCH> Nafri: Which version of Kaffiene ?
[03:44] <DAskreeCH> AABBCC: Welcome to Kubuntu
[03:44] <DAskreeCH> AABBCC: Welcome to Linux
[03:45] <Fanfare> Nafri: kaffeine -> dragonplayer (in KDE4 SC)
[03:45] <AABBCC> thank you
[03:45] <AABBCC> I am just doing some updates... any newbie advice?
[03:45] <Nafri> kaffeine -1.0 pre2
[03:46] <DAskreeCH> AABBCC: Lots What would you like to know from the newbies? :)
[03:46] <DAskreeCH> Nafri: Well that is a prerelease of a new software :)
[03:46] <Nafri> dragon can't fwd/rewind flv too... none of the xine front-end seems to work :(
[03:46] <Nafri> but smplayer works perfectly
[03:46] <AABBCC> well i need some apps how do i find them?
[03:47] <Nafri> sudo apt-get install <YOUR_APP>
[03:47] <Fanfare> AABBCC: kpackagekit
[03:48] <Fanfare> Nafri: noobs tend to not know the app/pkg names :-)
[03:49] <AABBCC> thanks
[03:50] <AABBCC> im not shure all the drivers were installed how can i check?
[03:52] <_2> heh.   ubuntu suggests  apt    and debian forbids apt and insists on aptitude   heh.      personally i prefer  apt     but i'm using debian
[03:52] <Fanfare> AABBCC: what device do u think is not working?
[03:52] <maco> _2: we dont recomment a specific one
[03:52] <maco> _2: which version you see in documentation or on IRC is based on the preferences of whomever was at the keyboard
[03:53] <AABBCC> no sound for one thing
[03:54] <_2> Fanfare apt-cache [search,show] bash   AABBCC you could look at the install logs   less /var/log/dpkg.log       maco, acc
[03:54] <Fanfare> AABBCC: do u have a mixericon in the taskpanel?
[03:54] <AABBCC> yes i do
[03:55] <Fanfare> _2: sure there are many ways to search for app names and install them...
[03:55] <AABBCC> it says nvidia for some reason
[03:56] <Fanfare> AABBCC: open the mixer and check all levels are up! also check the hidden channels!
[03:56] <Fanfare> AABBCC: kubuntu suggests to install the proprietary/binary driver... it comes with the open source driver
[03:58] <AABBCC> all the levels are up.. i checked
[03:58] <AABBCC> where do i find the proprietary driver
[03:59] <DAskreeCH_> AABBCC: You have the GUI way and the CLI way
[03:59] <DAskreeCH_> Gui = Graphical User interface and CLI = Command Line interface
[03:59] <AABBCC> GUI is fine
[03:59] <DAskreeCH_> AABBCC: basically the Point and click way and the terminal way
[03:59] <Fanfare> u can autoinstall the binary driver witth jockey-kde
[04:00] <_2> !restricted
[04:02] <AABBCC> ok im downloading the kubuntu restricted extras
[04:03] <Fanfare> AABBCC: sadly this is a good thing... :-)
[04:04] <AABBCC> y?
[04:05] <_2> good in what sense tho.
[04:05] <Fanfare> Sad because there are too many widespread proprietary formats out there.
[04:06] <Fanfare> good to have binary drivers and formatsupport around.
[04:06] <Fanfare> somewhere...
[04:06] <Fanfare> !medibuntu
[04:08] <AABBCC> ok thank you
[04:08] <DAskreeCH_> Fanfare: There is good there is good and there is good
 good to have binary drivers and formatsupport around. <<< sad that they can't be opensource and included though.
[04:08] <Fanfare> DAskreeCH_: May the good win over the evil
[04:09] <DAskreeCH_> Fanfare: Yes once you know who is defining what is good and what is evil
[04:09] <_2> DAskreeCH_  :)  yeah that !
[04:09] <Fanfare> _2: just what i sayd! [05:03:42] <Fanfare> AABBCC: sadly this is a good thing... :-)
[04:11] <DAskreeCH_> Fanfare: :-) Good is very relative for a statement like that
[04:11] <jacob_> hi
[04:11] <jacob_> when i open a window
[04:11] <jacob_> i want it to open in the same spot
[04:11] <DAskreeCH_> I can say it's very good that all FOSS is being banned
[04:11] <jacob_> not in different places
[04:11] <Fanfare> DAskreeCH_: everyone has to define for himself.
[04:11] <FloodBotK1> jacob_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <jacob_> like when i open multiple pictures i want them all to be opened in the same spot
[04:12] <DAskreeCH_> since it helps to stimulate the economy and people must pay developers. Which helps overall cashflow
[04:12] <Fanfare> jacob_: rightclick titlebar > advanced
[04:12] <DAskreeCH_> jacob_: Not in the same window? but in the same place?
[04:12] <jacob_> yea
[04:12] <jacob_> i want all to open aligned ni the bottom right corner
[04:12] <Izinucs> I've read !medibuntu and installed all codecs necessary for commercial dvd playback, read !dvd,.. however dvd's will still not play.  cd that I burn are recognized with no issue.. what should I check next?
[04:13] <DAskreeCH_> Then see Fanfare's suggestion
[04:13] <jacob_> what do i click
[04:13] <jacob_> after that
[04:13] <Fanfare> jacob_: settings for window / App
[04:13] <Fanfare> jacob_: try window first if thats not doing ok, use app
[04:14] <Fanfare> Izinucs: is that only some DVDs not playing or all?
[04:15] <Izinucs> Fanfare: I've tried Riddick which plays in 8.10 ubuntu.. I've also tried Minority Report.. neither work..
[04:15] <JCDG> Hello Fanfare
[04:15] <jacob_> ..
[04:15] <jacob_> this is confusing
[04:15] <jacob_> it still opens in the same place
[04:16] <JCDG> I want to set up my mouse so I can use the horizontal scroll bar, but in the mouse options there's not any option to set it up...
[04:16] <titan_ark> hey if i want to install the kde core do i need to add something to the software sources also?
[04:16] <Fanfare> Izinucs: try lsdvd /dev/<DVD>
[04:16] <titan_ark> i get a could not find kde-core error
[04:17] <Fanfare> titan_ark: what is kde core?
[04:17] <Fanfare> titan_ark: try kubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <titan_ark> Fanfare I am presently on Ubuntu
[04:18] <titan_ark> well kubuntu-desktop will get a lot of softwares on and I will have a tough time disabling what all i do not need
[04:18] <titan_ark> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[04:19] <titan_ark> Someone else here also suggested kde-core first
[04:19] <Fanfare> titan_ark: hm, kdebase is some sort of a core :-)
[04:20] <titan_ark> hmmm'
[04:20] <JCDG> I want to set up my mouse so I can use the horizontal scroll bar, but in the mouse options there's not any option to set it up...Where Can I find this option?
[04:21] <jwill> JCDG: Is it a mouse, or a touchpad?
[04:21] <Fanfare> JCDG: <alt>+scroll scrolls horicontal!
[04:22] <JCDG> touchpad sorry...
[04:22] <jwill> JCDG: I was assuming you meant your mouse/touchpad supported physically scrolling sideways.
[04:22] <Izinucs> Fanfare: results.. "Using libdvdcss vs. 1.2.10 for dvd access.. Could not open /dev/sr0 w/libdvdcss
[04:22] <Izinucs> Fanfare: I'm using the 64 bit vs. of kubuntu and the 64 bit version of libdvdcss from medibuntu
[04:22] <jwill> JCDG: I know it's an option in the synaptics touchpad driver.  So we need to make sure you have that kind of touchpad, and how to change that setting.
[04:23] <JCDG> Fanfare, jwill , the vertical scrolling is working fine...but not the horizontal...
[04:23] <Fanfare> Izinucs: 64bit should not be a prob...
[04:23] <JCDG> jwill, uhmmm where can I find the synaptics touchpad setup? if there's one...
[04:23] <jwill> JCDG: I know this is a setting in Gnome, so KDE probably has it.
[04:24] <Izinucs> I know.. but
[04:24] <jwill> JCDG: so you've looked in here for an option: http://imagebin.ca/view/YSUuQjJ.html ?
[04:25] <Fanfare> Izinucs: i cant help then...
[04:25] <JCDG> jwill, yeahh and the only avaiable option is to reverse scroll direction,and it only affects the vertical scroll
[04:26] <Izinucs> Fanfare: thanks for the shot at it. :(
[04:27] <Fanfare> JCDG: if u have vertical scroll, use <alt>+scroll to horicontal scroll
[04:27] <jwill> JCDG: sudo aptitude install gsynaptics
[04:28] <jwill> JCDG: It's a config tool for synaptics touchpads.  I'm assuming you have a synaptics one, since they're very common and the other type isn't supported well.
[04:28] <JCDG> Fanfare, jwill let me try both of them
[04:29] <JCDG> yeah, it is a synaptics
[04:29] <jwill> Good, that should work, then.
[04:30] <jwill> JCDG: Um, if you're planning to use sleep, you should have a look at the script someone posted here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:30] <jwill> JCDG: Apparently gsynaptics needs help resuming after sleep
[04:32] <JCDG> Incredible but I can't find a web page to test it...
[04:33] <Fanfare> JCDG: <ctrl>+scroll to zoom in konq
[04:35] <JCDG> Fanfare, it worked, but shouldn't it be able to work as the vertical scroll??? without the need to press alt?
[04:36] <Fanfare> JCDG: i dont know synaptics too much, i do scroll with mouse <cttrl> = zoom, <alt> = horicontal
[04:37] <JCDG> Fanfare, jwill, and what about modifying the xorg??
[04:38] <jwill> JCDG: Didn't gsynaptics work?
[04:38] <jwill> Fanfare: He wants to be able to move his fingers sideways on the touchpad, and scroll sideways.
[04:38] <JCDG> I haven't tried...sorry...I forgot...
[04:39] <jwill> JCDG: It's to do with the touchpad driver, not xorg, so I don't think you can change it in xorg.conf.
[04:41] <Izinucs> might be a .vdi file
[04:44] <JCDG> jwill, Fanfare I have to reboot, be back in a secs...
[04:44] <jwill> k
[04:49] <JCDG> just curious but why in Linux, almost every program has a numeriation of 0.9.XXX, why don't the use 1.XXX, 2.XXX??
[04:50] <KDesk> hi, I saw that kde 4.4 rc was released a few days ago, but in the kde info page the aren't packages for kubuntu, anyone know where can I find packages for kde 4.4rc?
[04:50] <Fanfare> KDesk: no packs jet
[04:50] <Fanfare> y
[04:50] <KDesk> JCDG: That is know commercial
[04:50] <KDesk> JCDG: That is <only> commercial
[04:51] <JCDG> How's that?
[04:52] <Dragnslcr> JCDG- because a lot of programmers don't like to label something 1.0 until they feel that it's completed
[04:52] <KDesk> Fanfare: ah, do you know when will they be packeged?
[04:52] <Fanfare> because floss devs are more reliable :-)
[04:52] <Fanfare> KDesk: dont know , guess these days...
[04:52] <Fanfare> got to go, bb
[04:52] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[04:52] <KDesk> Fanfare: ok, then i will wait :) thanks for the info
[04:55] <JCDG> jwill, uhmmm now the alt+scroll does not move the horizontal scroll and the horizontal scroll does not work yet...
[04:55] <jwill> JCDG: You might need to reload the module?
[04:55] <Zhenya> file:///media/IBM_PRELOAD/Documents and Settings/ZhenyaK/Desktop/Juvenile-Gotta_Get_It_Feat_Gucci_Mane_1.mp3nfile:///media/IBM_PRELOAD/Documents and Settings/ZhenyaK/Desktop/Ludacris_and_Shawnna-How_Low.mp3nfile:///media/IBM_PRELOAD/Documents and Settings/ZhenyaK/Desktop/jason derulo - watcha say.mp31261228683_[mp3.teledyski.info].mp3n
[04:55] <JCDG> uhmmm how do I do that?
[04:55] <Zhenya> fark
[04:56] <jwill> JCDG: modprobe -r <name of synaptics module>
[04:56] <Zhenya> ave kubuntu installed and running. When i try to install firefox from the buil in package i get "requested packages already installed"
[04:56] <jwill> JCDG: then modprobe <name...>
[04:56] <JCDG> jwill, how can I find the name of the module?
[04:56] <Zhenya> and then when i go to the terminal and do a sudo apt-install and pick a package
[04:56] <Zhenya> no go at all
[04:56] <jwill> JCDG: Might be synaptics?
[04:56] <Zhenya> any ideas?
[04:57] <JCDG> jwill,  I don't know...
[04:57] <jwill> JCDG: Watch out though, you won't be able to use touchpad between those commands
[04:57] <jwill> JCDG: Just try "synaptics"
[04:57] <JCDG> jwill, "FATAL: Module synaptics not found."
[04:58] <jwill> JCDG: K, so that's not the name :P
[04:58] <Zhenya> guys any ideas?
[04:58] <JCDG> jwill, hehehe noup...
[04:59] <ilumi> anyone know how to enable boot log?
[04:59] <JCDG> jwill, I think i'm gonna send a bug to launchpad, but the problem is how I can gather information about that issue?
[04:59] <jwill> JCDG: Trying to google it... I think you can get a list of currently loaded modules, and grep it for synaptics
[05:00] <JCDG> jwill, How can I do that?
[05:00] <jwill> JCDG: Um, you don't know it's a bug.  Wishlist would be to have horizontal scrolling option in mouse options like in gnome.
[05:01] <Izinucs> I've figured out how to add a drive to the sidebar in Dolphin but where is the icon stored for a drive?  It's not in System icons or Other icons..
[05:01] <jwill> JCDG: OK, type lsmod | grep "synap"
[05:02] <Izinucs> Never mind.. I found the drop down menu for other locations.. :(
[05:02] <jwill> JCDG: And paste the output here
[05:03] <JCDG> jwill nope, anything...look this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1217386
[05:03] <jwill> JCDG: Then just type lsmod and look though the output for a likely module
[05:03] <Izinucs> I've added another partition to fstab and mounted it.. How do I check the owner and permission on the drive?
[05:04] <jwill> JCDG: Yeah, do that.
[05:04] <jwill> JCDG: And do aptitude remove gsynaptics
[05:04] <jwill> JCDG: Since you won't be using it.
[05:05] <JCDG> jwill remove or purge???
[05:05] <jwill> JCDG: purge, actually
[05:06] <JCDG> jwill, look this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400
[05:06] <eneng> .....
[05:07] <jwill> JCDG: Well that's easier.  Good googling.
[05:07] <JCDG> jwill, I have the same laptop, uhmm but the fix tells me to modify "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" but when I do a sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the file is empty...
[05:08] <JCDG> jwill, did they change the location of the xorg???
[05:09] <jwill> JCDG: Nope, mine is there.
[05:09] <jwill> JCDG: http://pastebin.com/m5a9f3d73
[05:10] <jwill> JCDG: I know X got rid of a lot of the conf needed there, reasonably recently.
[05:10] <JCDG> jwill, look http://imagebin.ca/view/plgYJg3.html
[05:11] <faileas> the xorg.conf file is empty by default, unless you add anything to it iirc
[05:12] <JCDG> faileas, so should I paste some line and them comment it to get it working???...
[05:12] <JCDG> faileas, comment it is not the same as it were not there?
[05:12] <jwill> JCDG: you could try setting it to one?
[05:13] <jwill> JCDG: A commented line won't do anything.
[05:14] <JCDG> here it says that :In order to get it working you must comment this line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: but if there's not any line, how am I gonna comment it?
[05:14] <jwill> JCDG: It's out of date.
[05:14] <faileas> JCDG: er... there's a command to generate an xorg.conf file
[05:14] <faileas> but i can't remember what that is
[05:15] <jwill> faileas, JCDG: Xorg -configure?
[05:16] <Izinucs> whats the version of gksudo for kde?
[05:17] <jwill> Izinucs: kdesu
[05:17] <JCDG> jwill, I did that and this is what i got, Fatal server error:
[05:17] <JCDG> Server is already active for display 0
[05:17] <JCDG> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[05:17] <JCDG> 	and start again.
[05:17] <FloodBotK1> JCDG: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <jwill> JCDG: Log out, get to a virtual terminal, and run the same thing
[05:17] <daskreech> !vt
[05:17] <JCDG> ok...i'll do it...
[05:17] <Izinucs> jwill: not available but "is referred to by another package.. this may mean that the package is missing , has been obsoleted etc....
[05:18] <jwill> JCDG: CTRL + ALT + F7 to get back, CTRL + ALT + 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 to get to a virt term
[05:18] <jwill> Izinucs: O_o
[05:18] <jwill> Izinucs: That is weird.
[05:19] <Izinucs> I know.. another thing I discovered today was ksynaptics is also not available.. only gsynaptics
[05:19] <daskreech> jwill: Little late :)
[05:19] <jwill> daskreech: :D yeah
[05:19] <Triggz> hey every1
[05:19] <jwill> daskreech: Better than when you tell a noob to do ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a virtual terminal without saying how to get back
[05:20] <jwill> Izinucs: You installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu?
[05:20] <Izinucs> jwill: yep.. 64bit version
[05:20] <iatd> how do you get back?
[05:20] <jwill> Izinucs: It sounds like you're missing a bunch of kubuntu-desktop packages.  Try reinstalling.
[05:20] <Izinucs> k
[05:20] <jwill> Izinucs: sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <JCDG> jwill,  the same thing...
[05:21] <jwill> JCDG: Um.
[05:21] <jwill> JCDG: Is another user logged in?
[05:21] <jwill> JCDG: You need to run that before X starts
[05:21] <Izinucs> jwill: however I'm using apt-cache search to look for those packages and they are not in the repos.. of course I've sudo apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade already
[05:21] <JCDG> It's incredible that something so simple can be so difficult to set up...no, I'm the only one on my machine..
[05:22] <Triggz> i just switched to linux, how do i update my dragon player?  the update notifier gave me a list of 7 updates, codex and whatever when i put my password in it doesnt get them
[05:23] <jwill> JCDG: type: ps -aux | grep "xorg"
[05:24] <jwill> Speaking of ps -aux, why does it say ba syntax?
[05:24] <jwill> bad*
[05:24] <Izinucs> jwill: searched again using apt-cache search kdesu and it returns that the package is called kdesudo.  maybe I had a typo before
[05:24] <jwill> Izinucs: You should not install it directly.
[05:24]  * Kage is going to sleep... Night!
[05:25] <jwill> Izinucs: It should be installed with kubuntu-desktop.
[05:25] <jwill> Izinucs: So reinstalling did nothing?
[05:25] <JCDG> jwill, jonas     2196  0.0  0.0   3052   824 pts/1    S+   00:54   0:00 grep --color=auto xorg
[05:25] <Izinucs> jwill: didn't do that yet
[05:26] <Izinucs> jwill: trying returns "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version".. as I remember in gnome it was a package that wasn't installed by default..
[05:27] <jwill> JCDG: Try running telinit 3
[05:27] <Izinucs> jwill: edit: kdesudo was installed but doesn't activate with kdesu only kdesudo.. weird.. my machine was a fresh install so maybe something is left behind with an upgrade.
[05:27] <jwill> JCDG: If that fails, just stop the X server
[05:27] <JCDG> jwill, nothing came up...
[05:27] <jwill> Izinucs: Ah, what version are you running?
[05:28] <jwill> Izinucs: It's probably just a version change
[05:28] <Izinucs>  jwill 9.10
[05:28] <jwill> JCDG: Re-run the ps command (press up)
[05:28] <jwill> Izinucs: Weird, that's the same as me, and it's called kdesu
[05:28] <JCDG> jwill, jonas     8761  0.0  0.0   3052   808 pts/1    R+   00:58   0:00 grep --color=auto xorg
[05:28] <daskreech> jwill: They should be smlinked to each other
[05:29] <jwill> Izinucs: kdesudo also works.  Perhaps kdesu is deprecated or something, and it's only on mine because I installed it earlier?
[05:29] <jwill> JCDG: Right, just kill it
[05:29] <jwill> daskreech: Yeah, weird, right?
[05:29] <JCDG> jwill, how do I kill it??
[05:30] <jwill> JCDG: man slaughter!
[05:30] <jwill> JCDG: type "man kill" into the terminal
[05:30] <Izinucs> jwill: could be.. I also just found that the partition that I created with partitionmanager for Data is owned by root.. figures since you need to be root to do that..
[05:30] <JCDG> crtl+alt+backspace??'
[05:30] <jwill> JCDG: Um, no.  You are at a black screen with no GUI, right?
[05:31] <JCDG> hehehehe....jwil, that was somekind of joke, jejejeje...
[05:31] <Izinucs> jwill: now how do I get rid of the "lost+found" folder when viewing the drive?
[05:31] <jwill> JCDG: Oh, I see :D
[05:31] <jwill> Izinucs: Bad idea.  That stores lost disk sectors, I think.  It's a filesystem thing.
[05:31] <Triggz> can any1 see me?
[05:31] <JCDG> jwill, so it'll be "kill 8761"??
[05:32] <jwill> Triggz: No
[05:32] <jwill> JCDG: Yep.
[05:32] <Triggz> :)
[05:32] <Triggz> wasnt sure
[05:32] <Izinucs> jwill: It doesn't show up on other drives.. namely /home .. so do they hide it ??  should I rename it with a "." at the beginning ?
[05:32] <JCDG> jwill, it says no such process :S
[05:33] <jwill> Izinucs: If you need root to do it, you shouldn't.
[05:33] <jwill> Izinucs: Rule of thumb, don't touch anything outside your home dir.
[05:33] <jwill> JCDG: ?_?
[05:34] <JCDG> jonas@JKingdom:~/Documentos$ sudo kill 3052; kill: No such process
[05:34] <Izinucs> jwill: It's a 300gig partition for pics and music.. since I now "own" it, it allows me to rename the directory with a . in the front.
[05:34] <jwill> JCDG: 3052?
[05:34] <Triggz> how do i find out what version kde i have?
[05:35] <JCDG> jwill, with both 3052 and 8761...
[05:35] <jwill> JCDG: 8761...
[05:35] <JCDG> jonas@JKingdom:~/Documentos$ sudo kill 8761; kill: No such process
[05:35] <jwill> JCDG: Ugh, just restart and drop to a maintainance prompt at grub
[05:36] <JCDG> jwill, ok I'll wait a few secs, I'm upgradid the kernel...
[05:37] <JCDG> Is there an incon In KDE like the one that kills the crashed windows in gnome=
[05:37] <Izinucs> How do I add a "Trash" Icon to the Desktop folder? or better yet what is the location of trash?
[05:37] <jwill> JCDG: That button is the same as the command "xkill"
[05:38] <JCDG> Izinucs, uhmmm, In gnome I used ubuntu tweak hehehe
[05:38] <jwill> JCDG: Just making sure, you were in a full-screen black terminal with no mouse when doing those commands, right?
[05:38] <JCDG> nop, I was on the beautiful KDE desktop...
[05:38] <jwill> Izinucs: trash:
[05:38] <Izinucs> JCDG: yea.. it's a little different getting use to kde after 5 years of gnome :).. but I like the new kde
[05:38] <jwill> JCDG: Ummm
[05:38] <jwill> JCDG: THERE'S OUR PROBLEM
[05:39] <jwill> JCDG: You remember the part where I said to log out and go to a virtual terminal?
[05:39] <jwill> JCDG: You have to be logged out, otherwise X is running.
[05:39] <jmcantrell> is there a way to add actions to the actions menu in dolphin?
[05:39] <jwill> jmcantrell: Yes.
[05:39] <JCDG> jwill, yeah, but...uhmmm how do I chat and write the commands on the same machine at the same time?
[05:40] <jmcantrell> jwill: can you point me in the right direction?
[05:40] <jwill> JCDG: You could use irssi, but that would be complicated.  I'll just tell you what to do, then you can come back once you've done it.
[05:40] <jwill> jmcantrell: I know you can, but I forget how.
[05:41] <Izinucs> jwill: in the process of doing that I just managed to remove the "Desktop" .. how do I replace it
[05:41] <jwill> jmcantrell: It might involve bash scripts.
[05:41] <daskreech> Izinucs: lost+foound just means the drive has been checked for errors. One of those is made on the first check to put any errant files inside
[05:41] <jmcantrell> jwill: that's totally fine, i just need to know how to do it
[05:41] <JCDG> jwill, as soon as I can I'll do it...:D...
[05:41] <Izinucs> daskreech: thanks!
[05:41] <jmcantrell> anyone know how i can add actions to the menu in dolphin?
[05:41] <jwill> Izinucs: Right click on dekstop, select unlock.  Right click, select add widgets.  Find folder view, drag it onto desktop.
[05:42] <Bonster> is there a way to make Bash Alias work in Krunner?
[05:42] <daskreech> JCDG: alt+ctrl+Esc gets you the kill program icon
[05:42] <JCDG> jwill, I'm gonna reboot the pc, 'cause the kernel upgrade...
[05:42] <JCDG> thanks daskreech
[05:43] <Izinucs> jwill: that did it.
[05:43] <daskreech> Izinucs: trash is just a .Desktop with the url trash:/
[05:43] <jwill> Izinucs: You might want to relock it, too.  So you can't accidentally delete stuff/move it.
[05:44] <daskreech> jmcantrell: Check the Userbase page for Dolphin I think
[05:44] <daskreech> Bonster: Write a runner for it?
[05:44] <jmcantrell> daskreech: userbase? i just started using kde today.
[05:45] <jwill> jmcantrell: Here's a good-looking tutorial for service menus: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-create-open-as-root-service-menu.html
[05:45] <Bonster> daskreech, what u mean by that
[05:45] <daskreech> jmcantrell: http://userbase.kde.org Hold on let me check if i it's there
[05:45] <Izinucs> jwill: now I have to customize the folder I just replaced.. previously I had added a url location so the only thing showing was a folder representing my /home directory and not the folders *in* /home.. now I'm having problems reproducing that..
[05:46] <jmcantrell> jwill: cool. thanks
[05:46] <daskreech> Bonster: Krunner works with Runners who check if what you typed corresponds with something. There isn't one for a Bash Alias as far as I know so just get one and install it
[05:47] <Izinucs> daskreech: shouldn't I be able to right mouse click the newly created trash and "empty" ?
[05:47] <jwill> Izinucs: You just want a link to your home?  You don't need a full desktop view for that, just drag your home dir onto the desktop (while it's unlocked)
[05:47] <daskreech> jmcantrell: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088743.0
[05:47] <Izinucs> jwill: got it.. right mouse click the folder and add url /home/<user>
[05:47] <jwill> Izinucs: If you use the plasmoid on the desktop or toolbar, you can.
[05:47] <jmcantrell> daskreech: thanks
[05:47] <daskreech> Izinucs: mebbe I dunno I've never tried it :)
[05:50] <Izinucs> daskreech: I had the url wrong for it.. didn't put the colon and / at the end.. when I did that the empty option appeared when right mouse clicked however the icon changed so I had to modify that.
[05:50] <jmcantrell> is there any way to keep wallet from asking me for my password every time i login?
[05:51] <daskreech> Izinucs: Ah there is a trash widget :)
[05:51] <[jwill_is_afk]> jmcantrell: Without massively compromising security, no.
[05:52] <daskreech> jmcantrell: Tell it always allow ?
[05:52] <daskreech> jmcantrell: Oh wait that's your master password
[05:52] <jmcantrell> there's no way to tie it to the login password?
[05:52] <Izinucs> daskreech: but I don't think you can place it *in* the Deaktop folder.. it seems to live as a widgit on the desktop
[05:52] <jmcantrell> like gnome?
[05:52] <jwill> jmcantrell: You should have different passwords.
[05:53] <jwill> jmcantrell: But maybe, I don't know.
[05:55]  * Izinucs is really learning to LOVE this new kde.. polished, smooth, flexable .. but wonders what will happen when upgraded to the next LTS (shudders with that prospect)
[05:56] <daskreech> Izinucs: Ah.. Not sure why you would want that :) but Yeah make a special link to trash:/
[05:56] <daskreech> jmcantrell: I think you can but then why bother use kwallet?
[05:57] <Izinucs> daskreech: I guess I'd rather have it there then anywhere else :) ... or "because I can?"
[05:57] <daskreech> Izinucs: Because I can. Welcome to Linux Sub section KDE
[05:57] <Izinucs> :)
[05:58] <Izinucs> daskreech: ok.. another question.. is there an easy setup to sync a folder to Ubuntu One? perhaps even including contact from Kontact?
[06:01] <daskreech> Izinucs: Yes
[06:01] <daskreech> ish
[06:01] <daskreech>  :)
[06:02] <Izinucs> daskreech: what.. I have to install couchdb, configure etc ??
[06:03] <daskreech> Izinucs: google apachelogger ubuntu one
[06:03] <daskreech>  He made a KDE system for it
[06:03] <Izinucs> daskreech: cool
[06:05] <Izinucs> Is copying a large amount of files with dolphin something that slows the system down? Is it better to do it via cli?
[06:06] <darkdelusions> jwill: thanks for the open with root trick :)
[06:07] <jwill> darkdelusions: Google is your friend :)
[06:07] <jwill> Izinucs: No.
[06:07] <JECHO> hey fellas
[06:07] <darkdelusions> jwill: I never acutally thought of it :)
[06:07] <darkdelusions> rofl
[06:08] <JECHO> just officially switched over to kde from gnome :)
[06:08] <jwill> JECHO: KDE SC is fun.
[06:09] <JECHO> jwill: oh yes
[06:09] <JECHO> bespin snv is making me wet my pants
[06:09] <JECHO> bespin svn*
[06:09] <jwill> I dislike that widget theme.
[06:10] <JECHO> bespin?
[06:11] <jwill> The scrollbars, mostly.
[06:11] <JECHO> ah, got it
[06:12] <jwill> JECHO: Have a problem?
[06:13] <JECHO> no problem at all :) got everything running smoothly
[06:13] <JECHO> oh actually, there is something
[06:14] <jwill> System Settings
[06:14] <jwill> Right click on desktop, unlock
[06:14] <JECHO> jwill: the default wireless network manager in kde 4.3 is not picking up any networks, but when i run iwlist scan in the terminal, i am seeing networks
[06:15] <JECHO> any idea how to get the network manager in kde to see them too?
[06:15] <jwill> JECHO: Now that is puzzeling.
[06:15] <JECHO> jwill: thats what i said lol, not really a big deal since its a desktop machine and im wired in jsut fine
[06:16] <jwill> I have no idea.  If you came over from gnome, you could just use NetworkManager (the gnome one)... but still
[06:16] <JECHO> also, gnomes default net manager works just fine... only having issues with KDE
[06:16] <JECHO> yeah, i was going to try that as a last resort
[06:16] <jwill> JECHO: You don't have it running, do you?
[06:16] <JECHO> gnome?
[06:17] <jwill> JECHO: The gnome networkmanager
[06:17] <jwill> JECHO: Both at the same time might cause issues
[06:17] <JECHO> no, i dont have both running. jsut did a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10
[06:18] <jwill> JECHO: Oooh, k.  Assumed you just installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu.
[06:18] <jwill> JECHO: You haven't fixed strigi yet?  That's something else for you to do :D
[06:18] <JECHO> thats what i did earlier, and i had the same problem im having now... thought a clean install might correct it but nope
[06:18] <JECHO> haha whats strigi?
[06:19] <jwill> JECHO: What did you do earlier?
[06:19] <jwill> JECHO: The file indexer, like, umm... the gnome file indexer
[06:19] <JECHO> installed the kubuntu desktop with ubuntu
[06:19] <jwill> JECHO: Kubuntu breaks it by having some missing packages.
[06:19] <JECHO> ah
[06:19] <jwill> JECHO: Ah, I've had issues with that.
[06:20] <jwill> JECHO: Don't know what to do about the wireless.  You might try entering a network in by hand, from the command line info, and seeing if it works.
[06:21] <jwill> JECHO: Looking at bugs.kde.org, or the kubuntu site could uncover a workaround.
[06:21] <JECHO> ah, good call. ill have to check that out
[06:21] <JECHO> im going to try working on it on my own for a bit longer
[06:22] <JECHO> ill conquer it :)
[06:26] <jwill> konquer*
[06:26] <daskreech> Izinucs: Umm I would say that cli is always better but that's me :)
[06:27] <jwill> daskreech: I'm sure dolphin uses the same backend as cp.
[06:27] <daskreech> JECHO: use KDE 4.4 !
[06:28] <jwill> daskreech: Sure, cli would be faster sans the overhead from dolphin.  But not enough to bother switching if you primarily use graphical file management.
[06:28] <daskreech> jwill: but cp doesn't have to paint the screen and update. so it would use less RAM so it would be less resources
[06:28] <jwill> JECHO: Yeah, that could fix it.  On the other hand, you'd run into more bugs, probably.
[06:28] <daskreech> jwill: You can press F4 in dolphin.
[06:28] <daskreech> :-)
[06:28] <jwill> daskreech: Overhead.
[06:29] <JECHO> yeah im on a pretty built gaming machine so im not worried about resources
[06:29] <jwill> daskreech: Dolphin is running in the background anyways.  Insignificant, especially since copying files isn't that CPU intensive in the first place.
[06:29] <JECHO> and KDE 4.4 looks like its coming along quite well but i agree with jwill, too many additional issues
[06:29] <jwill> daskreech: And everyone has way too much RAM by this point
[06:29] <daskreech> jwill: I have about 600
[06:29] <jwill> JECHO: Yeah, I'm waiting for feb 8.
[06:29] <jmcantrell> anyone know how to get google calendar working with akonadi? i've added the resource and configured it, but i'm not seeing anything in kontact
[06:30] <daskreech> jwill: I'll find bugs and report them so you can have a better feb 8 :)
[06:30] <jwill> jmcantrell: Now that's something it might be worth upgrading to 4.4 for... Akonadi is a bit flakey in 4.3, in my experience.
[06:30] <jwill> daskreech: Thank you :D
[06:30] <jmcantrell> jwill: how do i upgrade?
[06:31] <jwill> jmcantrell: Well, you probably shouldn't.
[06:31] <daskreech> jmcantrell: It's on the Kubuntu website
[06:31] <Izinucs> jmcantrell: yep.. can't tell you though.. I set it up the other night.. took me 30 minutes.. did contacts too!  I didn't write it down.. got the instruction from google.
[06:31] <daskreech> Izinucs: the worst problem with Linux
[06:31] <jwill> Izinucs: Really, google has instructions for KDE??
[06:31] <Izinucs> amazing isn't it jwill!?
[06:31] <jwill> Izinucs: Yeah O_O
[06:32] <daskreech> Not ubuntu in general since they are nice enough to break things regularly but still one of the worst things about Linux :)
[06:32] <jwill> Izinucs: I thought linux support for chrome was cool.
[06:32] <daskreech> Seeing as how they hosted the KDE 4.0 party I think Google has some knowledge of KDE :)
[06:32] <Izinucs> jwill: haven't tried that in linux yet.. windows sure.. at work
[06:32] <daskreech> ha ha
[06:33] <jwill> daskreech: I really miss the integration of konq, but chrome is still a very nice browser.  And none of the picasa-like wine crap.  Completely natice (to gnome).
[06:33] <jwill> native*
[06:33] <jmcantrell> jwill: are you talking about the ppa?
[06:33] <Izinucs> slowly getting some opensource in the work environment.. got the boss using FF and chrome and convinced him I could put a company site up after he got a 8k quote to do Joomla...
[06:34] <jwill> jmcantrell: What ppa?  The google one?
[06:34] <daskreech> jwill: They still should have done it in Qt
[06:34] <jwill> daskreech: Yeah...
[06:34] <jwill> daskreech: Would be so cool.
[06:38] <daskreech> jwill: And easier on them
[06:38] <nirjhor> I'm having a problem
[06:38] <nirjhor> my resolution always gets back to 1024*768 when I turn my pc on
[06:38] <daskreech> nirjhor: Good thing that you are in the support channel :)
[06:38] <nirjhor> I'm using kubuntu 9.10
[06:38] <jwill> daskreech: Right, crossplatform right out of the box.  They said they wanted windows/mac versions to be completely native, though.
[06:39] <daskreech> jwill: Right. So... Qt ?
[06:39] <Izinucs> Ok.. I just installed Digikam but it's not showing on the menu's.. what now?
[06:39] <nirjhor> with the kernel 2. 6.33 rc2
[06:39] <jwill> Whoa, we had someone with that exact problem in here 2 days ago, nirjhor.
[06:39] <daskreech> Izinucs: might just be that they didn't refresh the menu
[06:39] <nirjhor> so what to do now?
[06:39] <daskreech> nirjhor: Kernel isn't a problem X and Driver would be the problem
[06:40] <Izinucs> daskreech: can I do that from cli? or do I have to log out and in or "edit" the menu to see if it's sitting there like I had to in gnome?
[06:40] <nirjhor> I'm using intel dg41rq express onboard grapgics
[06:41] <Izinucs> daskreech: got it..
[06:42] <jmcantrell> 4.4 is in beta right?
[06:42] <daskreech> jmcantrell: RC
[06:43] <jmcantrell> do you know what the specific version number is?
[06:43]  * daskreech puts a feather in bigbrovar's hair
[06:43] <daskreech> jmcantrell: If you are in Koala then it's 4.3.85
[06:43] <nirjhor> brb
[06:44] <daskreech> RC hasn't hit the Koala Repos yet
[06:44] <bigbrovar> daskreech: :p
[06:45] <bigbrovar> daskreech: well am still on  3.4.4 :p
[06:45] <daskreech> bigbrovar: Holy Hell man At lest upgrade to 3.5 :)
[06:46] <bigbrovar> daskreech: hope to try out 4.4 again, the last time was a bit of a buggy experience, but I have a spare machine I can try out
[06:46] <bigbrovar> daskreech: oh my bad I mean 4.3.4 :p
[06:46] <bigbrovar> daskreech: the 3 should be in the middle
[06:49] <daskreech> bigbrovar: Yeah yeah cover your shame man :)
[06:49] <bigbrovar> daskreech: :p
[06:50] <bigbrovar> am sure 4.4 RC is being packaged as we speak
[06:50] <nirjhor> back
[06:50] <daskreech> It's packaged already for Lynx
[06:50] <bigbrovar> daskreech: how has it been generally the beta, last time I tried it, it was very crashy.. but that was a long time ago
[06:51]  * daskreech shrugs. I don't use Plasma which people are saying is crashy
[06:51] <daskreech> I don't know what I did today cause things are crashing all over the place but that includes non KDE apps and hardware
[06:54] <daskreech> bigbrovar: but then again I can live without any GUI at all so I'm less picky than most people
[06:55] <bigbrovar> daskreech: my life is both gui and cli and N900 :p
[07:00] <daskreech> bigbrovar: How's KDE on that?
[07:02] <bigbrovar> daskreech: I havent tried, but I heard the next version of maemo wouldbe running Qt
[07:09] <daskreech> bigbrovar: That's the plan
[07:10] <bigbrovar> daskreech: yep thats  the plan, I also heard Nokia got the Koffice dudes to dev a version for maemo
[07:10] <bigbrovar> daskreech: Nokia is really doing some good stuff for the open source and kde, especially with their work on QT
[07:11] <daskreech> bigbrovar: More like Nokia deved a Koffice for Maemo and gave it to KDE
[07:11] <daskreech> Qt
[07:11] <daskreech> QT is owned by Apple
[07:12] <bigbrovar> typo
[07:12] <bigbrovar> :p
[07:12] <daskreech> :-)
[07:12] <bigbrovar> and apple sucks ( you forgot to had that)
[07:13] <daskreech> Ha ha Why the hate man? :)
[07:19] <titan_ark> Hi.
[07:20] <titan_ark> What are these additional passwords that I am asked to enter when I connect to my wifi netowrk?
[07:21] <titan_ark> No one active today?
[07:22] <Izinucs> titan_ark: perhaps the passwords for your router if you have encryption on
[07:23] <titan_ark> lzinucs, yes I do have 1 and I entered that, but I am still being asked for some passkeys again and again
[07:23] <faileas> titan_ark: could it be they are incorrect?
[07:23] <Izinucs> I've no idea
[07:24] <titan_ark> Ah, cant be!
[07:28] <jwill> daskreech: Umm, QT is owned by Nokia.
[07:29] <faileas> er
[07:29] <faileas> there's quicktime, and there's Qt.
[07:29] <daskreech> jwill: No Qt is made by Trolltech who is owned by Nokia
[07:29] <daskreech> QT is the trademark name of Quicktime owned by Apple
[07:29] <jwill> daskreech: QT is owned by Nokia
[07:29] <daskreech> jwill: Did Nokia Buy Apple today?
[07:30] <jwill> daskreech: QT was originally developed by Trolltech before it was absorbed by Nokia.
[07:30] <daskreech> titan_ark: kwallet
[07:30] <faileas> jwill: i the t is a small t
[07:30] <faileas> *i think the
[07:30] <jwill> daskreech:Thought you were ta;king about Qt, not quicktime.  This being a kde channel and all.
[07:30] <daskreech> jwill: again QT is the legal trademark of QuickTime which is owned by Apple
[07:31] <jwill> daskreech: Yeah.
[07:31] <daskreech> Qt is the trademark owned by Trolltech which is now the software division inside Nokia
[07:31] <jwill> daskreech: Really?
[07:31] <daskreech> Really
[07:31] <jwill> daskreech: Would you stop now?
[07:32] <daskreech> I have
[07:33] <daskreech> titan_ark: kwallet is a password/identity manager
[07:33] <daskreech> With the idea that you put in a single password once when you login to KDE and then it auto enters your password for all other places where you need one
[07:34] <titan_ark_> Well is there a way I can install the wireless manager of Ubuntu?
[07:34] <jwill> The Gnome NetworkManager, titan_ark_?  Why?
[07:35] <titan_ark_> jwill, this one is just not letting me get through
[07:35] <titan_ark_> I have 2 routers and I am unable to connect to either. I can get through an unsecure one.
[07:35] <jwill> titan_ark_: Do you have the right encryption type set?
[07:35] <titan_ark_> Ah, that I cant remember :(
[07:36] <titan_ark_> Doesnt it select it by default?
[07:36] <jwill> titan_ark_: Could be your problem.  You might as well check.
[07:36] <jwill> titan_ark_: Yeah, it does.  But ^
[07:37] <jwill> titan_ark_: You can install networkmanager; it's in the repos.  Not sure how well it integrates with KDE, but it does work (as I recall from the dark ages before KNetworkManager)
[07:39] <titan_ark_> hmmm
[07:41] <titan_ark_> damn the NetworkManager closed unexpectedly
[07:41] <titan_ark_> :(
[07:41] <jwill> titan_ark_: K?
[07:41] <titan_ark_> yeah KNetworkManager
[07:41] <jwill> titan_ark_: :(
[07:41] <jwill> titan_ark_: You're upgraded?
[07:42] <jwill> titan_ark_: Wait, you can get to an unsecured one?  Hmm...  Might be a wallet problem?  I have experienced the same bug on Gnome, but not KDE.
[07:42] <titan_ark_> No, I wanted to get the wireless first. Have been struggling since yesterday
[07:43] <titan_ark_> Yes it asks me abt the wallet and all :P
[07:43] <titan_ark_> Gnome I could get in easily in the morning
[07:43] <titan_ark_> I just like the kubuntu so much i want this more
[07:44] <titan_ark_> I have traced another problem. the kernel ending 30-17 is unstable on my notebook.
[07:44] <titan_ark_> If i upload to that then there is some filesystem error and I cant boot in
[07:45] <jwill> titan_ark_: Ouch.  Upload what to what?
[07:45] <titan_ark_> the latest kernel
[07:45] <jwill> Oh, upgrade?
[07:45] <titan_ark_> I dont remember the full version number.
[07:45] <titan_ark_> Yeah
[07:45] <titan_ark_> It ends 30-17
[07:46] <jwill> Hm.
[07:46] <jwill> Did you run fsck?  That often fixes filesystem stuff.
[07:46] <titan_ark_> nope
[07:47] <titan_ark_> I am quite a n00b
[07:47] <titan_ark_> dunno much
[07:47] <titan_ark_> just rying to get a hang of it
[07:47] <jwill> Does it drop you to a maintainance shell after the filesystem error?
[07:47] <titan_ark_> nope
[07:47] <titan_ark_> just cannot boot in that is it
[07:47] <jwill> What happens?
[07:47] <titan_ark_> the upgrade goes on fine
[07:47] <titan_ark_> I then reboot
[07:47] <titan_ark_> and then cant boot in
[07:48] <jwill> Does it say "press Ctrl + D to repair" or something like that?
[07:48] <titan_ark_> no
[07:48] <titan_ark_> just gives a file system error and nothing to go forward
[07:48] <jwill> What error message do you get, and what happens afterwards?
[07:48] <titan_ark_> have to force shutdown
[07:48] <jwill> Does it say 'doing a regular filesystem check' or something similar, under the kubuntu loading logo?
[07:48] <titan_ark_> I do not remember exactly, it is some kind of a "filesystem error"
[07:48] <titan_ark_> no i dont get to the logo
[07:49] <titan_ark_> btw I am running wubi
[07:49] <jwill> Well, you'd have to write down what the error is, so people can help you
[07:49] <jwill> If you can't boot into linux... why are you trying to fix something else?
[07:50] <jwill> Or can you boot with an earlier kernel?
[07:50] <titan_ark_> hmmm my friend too got the same thing after he upgraded, but he can boot into his earlier kernel
[07:50] <titan_ark_> Well, i just got bugged and reinstalled.
[07:50] <jwill> Oh.  I thought it was a current problem.
[07:50] <jwill> Well, I'm going to sleep.  Maybe someone else can help you?
[07:51] <titan_ark_> Okay
[07:51] <titan_ark_> Thank you.
[07:51] <titan_ark_> Good night
[07:51] <jwill> _magez_, afink, aishumoorthy, AllYourBases, amgarching, amichair, anasha_, Authority, want to help titan_ark_?
[07:51] <jwill> Yay for spamming names!
[07:51] <titan_ark_> lol :D
[07:56] <titan_ark_> any idea how i can do an upgrade without upgrading the kernel?
[07:56] <titan_ark_> :(
[07:56] <titan_ark_> God I am tired
[08:00] <titan_ark_> no one around?
 can someone help me get my microphone work correctly? it sounds like cr*p and it didn't on windows
[08:24] <Peace-> Alan502: well
[08:24] <Peace-> Alan502: give me a screenshot of alsamixer -V all
[08:25] <Alan502> yes Peace- ?
[08:25] <Alan502> ok
[08:28] <Alan502> Peace-, uploading now... my microphone initially it didn't even work, but playing with the capture bars i could get some to record some noise
[08:28] <Alan502> Peace-, it seems that replacing esound for pulseaudio also help
[08:29] <Peace-> Alan502: oh pulse is a crap
[08:29] <inteliwasp> is there a graphical partition manager on the live cd?
[08:29] <Alan502> http://imgur.com/dIVRz.png
[08:29] <Peace-> inteliwasp: you need partitionmanager
[08:29] <phant0m> hi im using tiger to scan my system and when i try to access the log in root it says permission denied
[08:30] <phant0m> can someone help pls?
[08:30] <Alan502> Peace-, since i replaced esound for pulseaudio i can't hear something in amarok lol
[08:30] <phant0m> intelliwasp use gparted
[08:31] <Peace-> phant0m: you use gparted on kubuntu ?
[08:31] <Peace-> there is partition manager that works fine.
[08:31] <phant0m> gparted is what you use prior to boot
[08:31] <Peace-> never used gparted on kubuntu
[08:32] <phant0m> ?
[08:32] <phant0m> why
[08:32] <inteliwasp> i do not see partitionmanager, is it in an odd place?
[08:32] <Alan502> Peace-, http://imgur.com/dIVRz.png, any ideas?
[08:32] <Peace-> Alan502: yeah 1 moment
[08:32] <Peace-> Alan502: first CAPTURE SHOULD NOT TO MAX
[08:33] <Peace-> Alan502: *be
[08:33] <Peace-> then try to install
[08:33] <Peace-> this
[08:33] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all
[08:33] <Peace-> then you will be able to record with konsole
[08:33] <Peace-> by typing
[08:33] <Peace-> rec out.wav
[08:33] <Alan502> if i lower capture, there's still a lot of noice
[08:33] <Alan502> *noise
[08:33] <Alan502> lol
[08:33] <Alan502> how so?
[08:34] <Alan502> like loquendo software on windows?
[08:34] <Peace-> to stop recording just press CTRL C
[08:34] <Peace-> then play out.wav
[08:34] <Peace-> change capture level
[08:34] <Peace-> and increase boost level
[08:34] <Peace-> you card should works fine
[08:34] <Alan502> it only makes it worse
[08:34] <Alan502> ah ok
[08:35] <Peace-> inteliwasp: seach on the bar partition
[08:35] <inteliwasp> do i need to install it?
[08:35] <Peace-> inteliwasp: yea
[08:36] <inteliwasp> figures
[08:36] <Peace-> i used a usb live
[08:36] <Peace-> and have installed you could try too
[08:37] <Alan502> still, Peace- , it doesn't sound like it did on windows
[08:37] <Alan502> Peace-, eve tho, i get a much better sound running a VM lol
[08:38] <Peace-> Alan502: i think you have only to set well your levels
[08:38] <Peace-> because alsa driver seems it's working ifne
[08:38] <Peace-> and still you have messed up something
[08:38] <Peace-> here on kubuntu i have not esound or pulse
[08:38] <Peace-> i have only alsa
[08:38] <Peace-> and everything is workinf very fine
[08:38] <Alan502> should i uninstall esound then?
[08:38] <Peace-> Alan502: how did you install kubuntu ?
[08:38] <Alan502> what is weird is that capture on a vm is much better
[08:39] <Peace-> ubuntu+kde?
[08:39] <Alan502> no, kubuntu amd cd
[08:39] <Alan502> *amd64
[08:39] <Peace-> so why you have said you had pulse?
[08:39] <Peace-> kubuntu has not pulse by default
[08:41] <Alan502> i asumed i had pulse because i followed a guide in the ubuntu documentation to improve skpe, and one of it sections had changing pulse for esound
[08:41] <Peace-> omg
[08:41] <Peace-> so you have messed up
[08:42] <Peace-> ubuntu tutorial are not so good for kubuntu
[08:42] <Peace-> a lots can be used but some no
[08:42] <Alan502> but it was only sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio
[08:42] <Alan502> and then
[08:42] <Alan502> sudo apt-get install esound
[08:42] <Peace-> ok
[08:42] <Alan502> pulse audio DID remove tho
[08:43] <Alan502> now i get a message "would you like kubuntu to forget about this devices?"
[08:44] <Peace-> Alan502: alan i have an intel alc861 you have an alc888
[08:44] <Peace-> and it's working fine your card i have seen a lots of time
[08:44] <Peace-> and should work without problems
[08:44] <Alan502> :sigh:
[08:44] <Peace-> i guess there is only something messed up
[08:45] <Peace-> some settings
[08:45] <Peace-> i mean
[08:45] <Peace-> esound for example i ahve never used
[08:45] <Alan502> the alsamixer?
[08:45] <Peace-> well i guess yes
[08:45] <Peace-> for example if i increase too much capture level i get a lots of noises
[08:45] <Peace-> and it seems you have internal microphone too
[08:46] <Peace-> so you have 2 controll for capture
[08:46] <Peace-> one for internal microphone and another for the external
[08:46] <Peace-> you could upload on www.mediafire.com
[08:46] <Peace-> some recording
[08:46] <Peace-> then you could give me the link
[08:46] <titan_ark> Peace-: drivers?
[08:47] <Peace-> titan_ark: no i guess it's not drivers that card should work
[08:47] <Alan502> Peace-, one minute
[08:47] <titan_ark> I just joined, so i was asking what you are discussing abt?
[08:48] <Peace-> titan_ark: audioo recording
[08:48] <titan_ark> I maneged to configure my mic, webcam on Ubuntu and now cant figure how to do it on Kubuntu.
[08:48] <Peace-> with a lots of noises
[08:48] <titan_ark> ah okay
[08:48] <Peace-> i think three are only some level to set
[08:48] <Peace-> on alsamixer
[08:49] <titan_ark> hmmm, n00b here :P
[08:49] <Peace-> xD ahahha
[08:49] <Peace-> old user here
[08:49] <titan_ark> the software manager on ubuntu is easier to work with
[08:50] <Peace-> point of view
[08:50] <Peace-> !offtopic
[08:50] <Mamarok> titan_ark: it has a serious downside: it doesn't tell you if something is already installed
[08:50] <titan_ark> Peace- :)
[08:50] <titan_ark> Mamarok hmmm
[08:51] <Peace-> Mamarok:  xD i have made my own service menu for apt xD
[08:51] <faileas> titan_ark: donno. i've been using apt all along, from cli ;p
[08:51] <Mamarok> but Peace- is right, let's take that discussion to -offtopic
[08:51] <titan_ark> hola faileas :)
[08:51] <titan_ark> I am back now on Kubuntu
[08:51] <titan_ark> kubuntu-desktop screwed up my ubuntu install :D
[08:51] <faileas> owwie
[08:51] <faileas> how?
[08:52] <Mamarok> titan_ark: please, this is offtopic, take it to the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[08:52] <titan_ark> I think it did a kernel upgrade also and the 30-17 is not working right on my notebook. I get a filesystem error and cant boot in then
[08:53] <titan_ark> Mamarok, okay. Wont discuss that here. My apologies.
[08:53] <titan_ark> Are there any reported problems with the kernel version ending "30-17"
[08:53] <titan_ark> ?
[08:55] <zan__> hi
[08:56] <titan_ark> By the way, I also wanted to know how to install the skype package here?
[08:56] <Alan502> Peace-, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QKZZC7WO
[08:56] <titan_ark> Total n00b here so please dont fire :P
[08:57] <Peace-> Alan502: downloading
[08:59] <Peace-> Alan502: i am waiting the 30 secodns...
[09:00] <Alan502> Peace-, thanks :)
[09:01] <Peace-> Alan502: ya you have only some problems settings levels
[09:01] <Peace-> Alan502: try to change something on alsamixer
[09:01] <Alan502> should i uninstall esound?
[09:01] <Peace-> well the microphone is working so ..
[09:02] <Alan502> damn i've tried with several combinations
[09:02] <Alan502> anyways
[09:02] <Alan502> thanks
[09:02] <Alan502> i'll keep trying
[09:02] <FloodBotK1> Alan502: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:02] <Peace-> Alan502: but you can also go on alsa channel
[09:02] <Peace-> #alsa
[09:03] <Peace-> they can help you
[09:03] <Peace-> if you can't find a way to get it working properly
[09:04] <Alan502> i'll see what they come with
[09:04] <Alan502> thanks man
[09:04] <Alan502> have a good night
[09:04] <Alan502> take care, thanks again
[09:05] <Peace-> :) here is morning anyway seeyou
[09:27] <titan_ark> any idea on how to install .deb package?
[09:28] <Peace-> titan_ark: right button on the file open with gdebi
[09:28] <Peace-> or sudo dpkg -i pathdebianpackage
[09:29] <titan_ark>  Peace-: Thx :) working
[09:34] <titan_ark> damn, audio not working :(
[09:35] <Peace-> xD
[09:35] <Peace-> titan_ark: what's the prloble m?
[09:35] <Peace-> -.-''
[09:35] <Peace-> problem
[09:35] <titan_ark> no audio at all :P
[09:35] <titan_ark> its a bit difficult finding my way
[09:36] <titan_ark> need to install alsa i think
[09:36] <Peace-> titan_ark: alsamixer on konsole screenshot :)
[09:36] <Peace-> lspci | grep -i Audio
[09:37] <titan_ark> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:37] <titan_ark> Alsa is not installed!
[09:37] <titan_ark> Need to do that
[09:40] <Peace-> titan_ark: then use sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[09:40] <titan_ark> installing using KPackageKit
[09:40] <Peace-> i use konsole the most of time
[09:41] <Peace-> it's faster xD
[09:41] <titan_ark> hmmm Im quite used to windows :P
[09:41] <titan_ark> embarrasing to admit
[09:42] <Peace-> everyone here used windows before
[09:42] <titan_ark> hehhe
[09:43] <Zhenya> guys
[09:43] <Zhenya> having problems downloading and installing flash. when i do apt there is no association
[09:43] <Zhenya> any help?
[09:43] <Peace-> Zhenya: ?
[09:43] <Zhenya> Peace-: i'm here
[09:44] <Peace-> !flash
[09:44] <titan_ark> Zhenya just do it using Konqueror
[09:44] <titan_ark> It will work fine
[09:44] <Zhenya> let me ltry ok
[09:44] <titan_ark> Peace- How do I post the screenshot?
[09:44] <luxack> ciao
[09:44] <titan_ark> Ah! Audio is on!
[09:44] <titan_ark> :D
[09:45] <luxack> !list
[09:45] <Peace-> titan_ark: right butto add widget then-search paste----- drag and drop on the widget screenshot
[09:45] <Zhenya> in konqueror  i get themessage "the channel 'karmic-partnet' is not known
[09:47] <basil> hi, everybody, have problems with grub. after booting windows xp grub cannot load and says "grub loading"
[09:47] <basil> i restore it with "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda  where /media/root is sda6 my linux partition , but after windows its gone agin
[09:50] <titan_ark> cant figure it :|
[09:50] <Peace-> basil: maybe you could try sudo update-grub2
[09:51] <basil> @peace: this gives me: Generating grub.cfg ...
[09:51] <basil> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic
[09:51] <basil> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-16-generic
[09:51] <basil> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[09:51] <basil> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
[09:51] <FloodBotK1> basil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <basil> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[09:52] <basil> sry
[09:52] <Peace-> it printed something about windows?
[09:53] <basil> yeah windows is there, and also 2 kubuntus, but i knw just about one
[09:53] <Peace-> no
[09:54] <Peace-> i mean sudo update-grub2 has printed something about windows or not?
[09:54] <titan_ark> okay time to get to bed
[09:54] <titan_ark> :P\
[09:54] <titan_ark> cya Peace-
[09:55] <Peace-> sy
[09:55] <titan_ark> thx a bunch
[09:55] <basil> yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/353858/
[09:55] <Peace-> one moment i am on lucid and i have some "little problem" opening linsk
[09:56] <Peace-> basil: ok now *should * be added on grub.cfg
[09:56] <Peace-> windos
[09:56] <Peace-> so rebboting it should appear windows stuff
[09:56] <Peace-> on  grub menu
[09:57] <Peace-> anyway good documentation can be read here
[09:57] <Peace-> !grub2
[09:57] <Peace-> !grub
[09:58] <basil> thanks for the links, but thats what i'm doing after each time i use windows
[09:58] <basil> but the next time i boot windows it says "grub loading"
[10:07] <Peace-> basil: mmm try to read some stuff on the wiki i am sorry but i have deleted windows :) and i don't remember well the issue with that OS
[10:08] <basil> yeah i will, or i setup the whole laptop with windows 7
[11:09] <cxku> hi! when will kde 4.4 rc1 be avaliable from ppa?
[11:20] <Peace-> cxku: on lucid we are on 4.4 rc1
[11:20] <Peace-> cxku:  it's a time issue wait :)
[11:21] <fire`lala> Peace-: I'm jealous!
[11:21] <cxku> Peace-: lucid you say.. I have no time to wait, will upgrade it now :D
[11:21] <Peace-> cxku: no
[11:21] <Peace-> cxku: it's not very stable lucid
[11:21] <Peace-> it's an alpha
[11:21] <Peace-> i have karmic and lucid
[11:22] <Peace-> karmic for everyday use
[11:22] <Peace-> lucid for test
[11:22] <ikonia> lucid discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:22] <cxku> Peace-: I know, but my Karmic with KDE4.4b2 is not very stable either (KDE, not the system itself)...
[11:22] <cxku> Peace-: you know maybe when rc1 will be avaliable for Karmic?
[11:22] <Peace-> cxku: that's because i have kde 4.3.3 on karmic
[11:23] <Peace-> 4.3.4
[11:23] <Peace-> cxku: you should think next time and install a stable system like karmic with kde 4.3.4 and then if you want lucid with kde 4.4 rc1
[11:24] <Peace-> you get a instable system .... :)
[11:24] <Peace-> cxku: i don't know abot when it will be on ppa repository ti could take few hours or days
[11:25] <cxku> you are right... I could do a separate lucid install
[11:26] <cxku> Peace-: are there any daily/weekly builds of Kubuntu Lucid? or is there only the first alpha?
[11:26] <Peace-> there are daily builds
[11:27] <Peace-> anyway like said before it's better on offtopic
[11:27] <Peace-> !offtopic
[11:27] <Peace-> or in
[11:27] <Peace-> !lucid
[11:29] <miniBill> Hi. My kde keymap is gone wrong and I dunno how to fix it!
[11:30] <Peace-> miniBill: systemsettings..... input action or keyborad
[11:31] <miniBill> Peace-: I did it, but the keymap is still completely wrong
[11:31] <Peace-> miniBill: mm you are from ??
[11:31] <miniBill> italu
[11:31] <miniBill> *italy
[11:32] <miniBill> I set and italian keymap, but some keys are wrong.
[11:32] <Peace-> miniBill: ma allora che cazzo vieni in #ubuntu-it
[11:32] <miniBill> LOL
[11:43] <ryrych> hello :)
[11:45] <ryrych> I have kubuntu 9.10 and problem with my microphone - it's dead (in Windows everything is OK) - can anyone help me?
[11:45] <Peace-> dead?
[11:46] <ryrych> silent
[11:46] <Peace-> alsamixer - V all
[11:46] <Peace-> alsamixer -V all
[11:46] <Peace-> post a screenshot
[11:46] <Peace-> !imagebin
[11:50] <ryrych> Peace: here you go: http://imagebin.org/79032
[11:52] <Peace-> ryrych: looking
[11:53] <Peace-> ryrych: you have the same audio card tha i have
[11:54] <Peace-> ryrych: ok lets test
[11:54] <Peace-> ryrych: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all
[11:54] <Peace-> then rec out.wav
[11:54] <Peace-> CTRL C to stop recording
[11:54] <Peace-> then play out.wav
[11:54] <ryrych> Peace: ok, let me see :)
[12:05] <ryrych> Peace: strange, mic behaves as if it was broken - when I tap on it - I can't hear kind of "boom" in the speakers
[12:05] <ryrych> Peace: I plugged in microphone in the front of my computer
[12:11] <ryrych> Peace: I even filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/469176
[12:12] <Peace-> ryrych: write my name better or i can't read you
[12:13] <ryrych> Peace- ok :)
[12:14] <Peace-> ryrych: laptop?
[12:14] <ryrych> Peace- no, normal PC
[12:15] <dsadasdsasdadd> hi all
[12:16] <Peace-> ryrych: mm but with rec
[12:16] <Peace-> rec out.wav
[12:16] <Peace-> you get mute file?
[12:18] <Peace-> ok i have to go
[12:18] <Peace-> sorry :)
[12:19] <ryrych> Peace- no sound :(
[12:29] <ward__> Hello, My mysql has stopped working ... I can't start it anymore an no logs are made (maybe due update ?) anybody had this before ?
[12:36] <ward__> you can find my mysql error debig output here debug output http://pastebin.com/m4e024ce1
[12:49] <przemek_> hello
[12:50] <shadeslayer> przemek_: hi
[12:50] <przemek_> I need help, I need new icon add to Docky drop and drag don't
[12:52] <shadeslayer> przemek_: docky drop?
[12:53] <przemek_> drop Do not works
[12:54] <shadeslayer> przemek_: um could you explain a bit more clearer?
[12:54] <shadeslayer> przemek_: do you mean the fancy panel in kde?
[12:55] <przemek_> Drag the menu (KDE) does not add a new shortcut
[13:32] <afief> Anybody else noticed Konqui and Dolphin being sluggish when displaying large folders? (200 files take about 2 seconds to display, 2000 about 10 seconds)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> afief: sometimes
[13:33] <shadeslayer> afief: though it largely depends on your HD speed
[13:34] <afief> shadeslayer: that might be the issue:) Any filesystem changes I can do to make things better?
[13:35] <afief> currently I'm running Ext3
[13:35] <shadeslayer> afief: upgrade to ext4,its fast
[13:35] <shadeslayer> dont know why though :P
[13:35]  * Kolia heard the same thing :)
[13:37] <afief> shadeslayer: is there a way to do that without reformatting my partition?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> afief: yeah i was getting to that,and yes
[13:37] <shadeslayer> one sec
[13:38] <shadeslayer> afief: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Creating_ext4_filesystems
[13:39] <shadeslayer> afief: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4 is more appropriate
[13:43] <mauri> im not able to see teletext vith vlc
[13:44] <Alarm> anyone knowing how to change that ? http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1730/snapshot5t.jpg . the text in the drop down list has the same colour as the button. i see the same thing also in the update dialog box and cant figure out what is writen. all other window buttons are normal
[13:45] <afief> shadeslayer: how safe is it to do that stuff?
[13:45] <DataByte> hello
[13:45] <shadeslayer> afief: um its written on the official wiki,so ill have to say its pretty safe
[13:46] <DataByte> m
[13:49] <DataByte> i have a little question... i installed kubuntu on my notebook... it worked... but today it dont want to boot :( ...to start i choose kubuntu in the grub-menu... but after this only an black screen appears... ( additional info: i have also windows 7 installed )
[13:49] <DataByte> and i dont now how to fix it...
[13:49] <Alarm> any error messages ?
[13:49] <Kolia> DataByte: can you boot in recovery mode in grub-menu?
[13:49] <Alarm> drivers (vga) not installed well ?
[13:50] <DataByte> i treied it... but then the black screen appeard again... no text...
[13:50] <Alarm> did u press "enter" a couple of times ?
[13:50] <Alarm> happens to me too
[13:50] <Alarm> when i press enter it goes on
[13:51] <DataByte> yes i pressed enter a lot
[13:51] <Alarm> can u boot in recovery mode ?
[13:51] <Alarm> check error logs ?
[13:52] <DataByte> i tried to install it again... but then it didnt even booted the first time
[13:52] <DataByte> where can i see the logs ?
[13:52] <Alarm> in /var/log
[13:53] <DataByte> hmmmm mom i will change to my other laptop...^^
[13:54] <Alarm> i find it strange that you installed them again and it did not boot
[13:54] <Alarm> but what do you mean it did not boot ?
[13:55] <shadeslayer> DataByte: press ctrl+alt+F2
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Alarm: its pretty simple
[13:55] <Alarm> shadeslayer,  tell me
[13:55] <Funatom> so hello again
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Alarm: xserver started but kdm didnt (probably)
[13:55] <mauri> j-b: in the next version of vlc could it be possible to have it enabled?
[13:56] <Alarm> oh i thought you had a solution to my problem :)
[13:56] <shadeslayer> Funatom: ok are you at the PC which has the problem
[13:56] <shadeslayer> Alarm: thats your problem?
[13:56] <DataByte> no on my other pc
[13:56] <Alarm> no . my problem is here: <Alarm> anyone knowing how to change that ? http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1730/snapshot5t.jpg . the text in the drop down list has the same colour as the button. i see the same thing also in the update dialog box and cant figure out what is writen. all other window buttons are normal
[13:56] <shadeslayer> DataByte: ok do you have the PC which has the problem with you?
[13:57] <DataByte> öhh... no works... hää ? i changed nothing....
[13:57] <DataByte> *now it works
[13:57] <Alarm> DataByte,  thank shadeslayer  :)
[13:57] <shadeslayer> DataByte: yeah,did you recently upgrade a video driver?
[13:58] <shadeslayer> Alarm: well i kinda have the same problem
[13:58] <DataByte> dont think so...
[13:58] <shadeslayer> Alarm: its a small problem in the colors_ file of the aerzzo theme
[13:58] <Alarm> its good i am not the only one. i changed the "colours" from system settings but didnt help at all
[13:58] <DataByte> 1 question...
[13:58] <shadeslayer> DataByte: shoot
[13:58] <shadeslayer> Alarm: yeah,its not the system colors but the themes colors
[13:59] <Alarm> just dont shoot as all :)
[13:59] <Alarm> ok its not such a big problem , but wanted to fix it as well
[13:59] <shadeslayer> Alarm: its also seen in glassified :P
[13:59] <DataByte> where can i see my root-passwort ;) .... i had no chance to set it
[13:59] <shadeslayer> Alarm: you can try out different RGG values in the colors file of aerzzo
[13:59] <Alarm> ok, i will try that . thanks :)
[14:00] <shadeslayer> Alarm: its a config file you have to manually edit...
[14:00] <TheKro> DataByte: you can't see it - usually it's not set, but you can set it with sudo su root, then running  passwd (assumig you have sudo privileges)
[14:00] <Alarm> i will find it . its good that i now know where to spot the problem
[14:03] <DataByte> TheKro: ahh cool it worked
[14:03] <DataByte> ^
[14:15] <jgt157_> morning, can someone help with a runlevel issue?
[14:18] <jgt157_> lots of people in here, but no one that can help with a run level issue?
[14:19] <crimsun> would you be more detailed, please?
[14:20] <llutz> !anyone | jgt157_
[14:21] <jgt157_> I have changed my network manager to network-manager-gnome.  Problem is now the system doesn't start in runlevel 2.
[14:21] <jgt157_> If you run runlevel it says unknown
[14:22] <jgt157_> sudo init 2 starts up runlevel 2, but I need to find out why the nm-applet isn't starting in runlevel 2
[14:22] <crimsun> how did you change to n-m-g?
[14:22] <jgt157_> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[14:22] <crimsun> nm-applet is normally started by your graphical session
[14:23] <crimsun> it really is unrelated to runlevels (aside from single and multiuser, which in Debian/Ubuntu is just 1 vs 2-5)
[14:23] <jgt157_> I guess the question is, why isn't the system starting runlevel 2 anymore and can any help fix it
[14:24] <crimsun> err, it should be starting in multiuser unless you've changed something in /etc/inittab
[14:24] <crimsun> I presume this is an upstart-enabled version of Kubuntu?
[14:24] <jgt157_> I'm running karmic
[14:25] <crimsun> ok, and /var/run/utmp is readable?
[14:25] <dagon_> hey you guys :D
[14:25] <jgt157_> I didn't change anything except the network manager
[14:26] <crimsun> jgt157_: I'm trying to address your symptoms individually
[14:26] <crimsun> jgt157_: first, the runlevel "unknown" one, so I need to know the permissions and/or existence of said file
[14:27] <crimsun> it should be owned by root:utmp in mode 0664
[14:27] <crimsun> and, 'last -x' should corroborate your experience
[14:28] <jgt157_> which file are you referring to crimsun?
[14:29] <crimsun> 09:25 < crimsun> ok, and /var/run/utmp is readable?
[14:29] <dagon_> I've got an annoying problem with flash(?). I can't watch videos on YouTube with sound..
[14:32] <jgt157_> yes /var/run/utmp is 0664
[14:33] <crimsun> ok, does last -x also not give you runlevel info?
[14:34] <ToxinPowe> dagon_, look at your Kmixer
[14:35] <jgt157_> I've run sudo init 2, so yes I get runlevel 2 now.  I would need to reboot to start with no runlevel
[14:35] <alienkid10> I want to try KDE but I don't have enough bandwidth for kubuntu-desktop what are the essential packages I need to log in to a KDE session?
[14:36] <crimsun> jgt157_: the failure to switch to runlevel 2 would still be logged
[14:37] <jgt157_> in last -x?
[14:37] <crimsun> yes
[14:37] <jgt157_> runlevel (to lvl 2)   2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:59 - 09:33  (00:34)
[14:37] <jgt157_> reboot   system boot  2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:59 - 09:33  (00:34)
[14:37] <jgt157_> jim      pts/0        :0               Sat Jan  9 08:22 - crash  (00:36)
[14:37] <jgt157_> jim      :0                            Sat Jan  9 08:22 - crash  (00:36)
[14:37] <jgt157_> shutdown system down  2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:21 - 08:59  (00:37)
[14:38] <FloodBotK1> jgt157_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <jgt157_> runlevel (to lvl 6)   2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:21 - 08:21  (00:00)
[14:39] <dagon_> ToxinPowe: There not problem with muted sound. It just lags
[14:39] <jgt157_> looks like something is crashing when it tries to enter a runlevel?
[14:39] <Alarm> is it possible to make icons not to go behind widgets ? for example some files/icons on my desktop go behind the Clock widget
[14:39] <ToxinPowe> dagon_, ok then
[14:39] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:40] <dagon_> the sound kinda freezes
[14:41] <BluesKaj> dagon_, using pulseaudio?
[14:44] <jgt157_> crimsun, looks like something is crashing during reboot to prevent the system from booting into runlevel 2
[14:45] <jgt157_> http://paste.ubuntu.com unlevel (to lvl 2)   2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:59 - 09:33  (00:34)
[14:45] <jgt157_> reboot   system boot  2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:59 - 09:33  (00:34)
[14:45] <jgt157_> jim      pts/0        :0               Sat Jan  9 08:22 - crash  (00:36)
[14:45] <jgt157_> jim      :0                            Sat Jan  9 08:22 - crash  (00:36)
[14:45] <jgt157_> shutdown system down  2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:21 - 08:59  (00:37)
[14:45] <FloodBotK1> jgt157_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <jgt157_> runlevel (to lvl 6)   2.6.31-16-generi Sat Jan  9 08:21 - 08:21  (00:00)
[14:46] <jgt157_> I removed some unneeded scripts from runlevel 2.  I'm going to try rebooting and see if the crash happens again.
[14:50] <alienkid10> Hi How can I install a minimal amount packages and still get into a KDE session?
[14:52] <vinnie_> trying to install kdelibs5-dev. and I get this. http://pastebin.com/m1e28cb31 can someone please help me?
[14:53] <alienkid10> would installing KDEcore do it?
[14:54] <alienkid10> kdecore doesn't exist?
[14:54] <jgt157_> crimsun_: I just rebooted my machine.  Here's what runlevel last -x shows jim      pts/0        :0               Sat Jan  9 09:50   still logged in
[14:54] <alienkid10> so how can I log in with minimal package installation?
[14:55] <jgt157_> the runlevel command shows unknown as the runlevel
[14:56] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: try : kde-minimal
[14:56] <alienkid10> ok
[14:56] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: kde-minimal - the K Desktop Environment, minimal applications
[14:56] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: also the deafault CD contains the minimal packages
[14:57] <alienkid10> it says it needs more then kdebase
[14:57] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: what needs more than kdebase?
[14:57] <alienkid10> space/download
[14:58] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: eh?
[14:58] <alienkid10> will I beable to log in with kdebase?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> alienkid10: um this is more of a question for #kde
[14:59] <alienkid10> k
[15:00] <dagon_> BluesKaj: yup, never been any problem before
[15:02] <BluesKaj> dagon_, does the sound lag in all applications like dragon and amarok or whatever media players you're using ?
[15:02] <thegatekeeper> hey i have kubuntu installed and the screen is blurry any ideas?
[15:03] <shadeslayer> thegatekeeper: whats the resolution set at?
[15:03] <thegatekeeper> 720p
[15:03] <BluesKaj> thegatekeeper, that's a pretty general statement , more deatil like graphics card /driver res settings , monitor ..it all helps
[15:03] <shadeslayer> thegatekeeper: thats the max res for the screen?
[15:04] <thegatekeeper> yes
[15:04] <thegatekeeper> its a HDTV
[15:04] <thegatekeeper> it does 1080i
[15:04] <thegatekeeper> but the recommended res is 720p
[15:04] <thegatekeeper> here is the screen
[15:05] <serraemeira> Hello people, please help, my kubuntu 9.10 doesnt shutdown or reboot anymore
[15:05] <shadeslayer> thegatekeeper: well im going offline,maybe someone will help you :)
[15:06] <thegatekeeper> Panasonic TH - 50PX80U
[15:07] <thegatekeeper> Graphics card is nvidia 8500GT PCI-Express
[15:07] <serraemeira> Hello people, please help, my kubuntu 9.10 doesnt shutdown or reboot anymore
[15:07] <thegatekeeper> 256MB
[15:07] <thegatekeeper> using latest nvidia driver
[15:07] <thegatekeeper> and its at 720p res
[15:08] <n8wulf> serrameira, what is the last thing you did
[15:08] <n8wulf> did u install something new? change a setting?
[15:10] <ngong> just installed 9.10, now I want to add e.g. Konversation, however KPackageKit tells me "Package cache could not be opened". Is this ok? Shall I goon in terminal with apt-get? Or there a serious problem?
[15:12] <n8wulf> ngong, as fa as I know, if the repositories are not available, the needed dependancies wont be installed, for instance
[15:12] <thegatekeeper> n8wulf: any ideas about my situation?
[15:12] <thegatekeeper> could it be the DPI setting?
[15:12] <thegatekeeper> its hooked up the tv via a DVI to HDMI Cabke
[15:12] <thegatekeeper> Cable
[15:13] <n8wulf> I'm not sure if running a apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will fix it later on
[15:14] <ngong> n8wulf: that is I've got a serious problem?
[15:14] <ngong> n8wulf: connection to the internet is workin
[15:14] <n8wulf> gatekeeper, I see all the Specs of a sCREEN  IT SEEMS, BUT i DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?
[15:14] <thegatekeeper> why the caps?
[15:15] <n8wulf> sorry about the caps
[15:15] <thegatekeeper> hmm
[15:15] <n8wulf> stupid k/board
[15:15] <thegatekeeper> ok
[15:16] <n8wulf> ngong, try just the sudo apt-get update first, maybe any repositories not updated yet, will get refreshed
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ngong, just check your sources.list and make sure the deb lines are uncommented (no#s) in front , then in the konsole, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install konversation
[15:17] <BluesKaj> that kpackagekit seems flaky and they still haven't fixed it
[15:18] <n8wulf> gatekeeper, I came in late, what is the problem mate?
[15:18] <ngong> n8wulf: I did a sudo aptitude which could not understand line #5 of sources.list, that is: "deb karmic main restricted" that I do not understand
[15:19] <ngong> n8wulf: it's a very fresh installation, done no changes so far
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ngong, for everyones's benefit , pastebin your sources.list
[15:20] <n8wulf> good idea
[15:20] <ngong> BluesKaj: sorry, what is the pastebin command on ubuntu?
[15:21] <n8wulf> he said that: "I did a sudo aptitude which could not understand line #5 of sources.list, that is: "deb karmic main restricted" that I do not understand"
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !paste
[15:21] <ngong> !pastebininit
[15:28] <ngong> BluesKaj: maybe I'm too blind: I do not understand how to pastebin from the commandline and I can not lokate a simple texteditor (for cut'n paste from the screen)
[15:30] <ngong> BluesKaj: lokate <- locate
[15:30] <Kolia> ngong: can you add the pastebin plasmoid to your desktop?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ngong, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <ngong> Kolia: till now I can not install anything new
[15:31] <Kolia> you can see the desktop?
[15:32] <ngong> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1267d620 - source.list
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ngong , in edit find select all then copy , go to  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste the entry
[15:32] <leetbeguinner774> someone speak french?
[15:33] <maco> !fr
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ngong, uncomment lines 38, 39, 45, 46
[15:33] <leetbeguinner774> ok thanks
[15:33] <Kolia> leetbeguinner774: #ubuntu-fr is very active
[15:34] <ngong> BluesKaj: are you sure? It's a very fresh installation.
[15:34] <Kolia> ngong: i agree with BluesKaj
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ngong, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install konversation
[15:34] <dagon_> BluesKaj: nope, just using flash
[15:35] <BluesKaj> ngong, they are commented out for legall reasons
[15:35] <BluesKaj> err legal
[15:35] <ngong> BluesKaj: even apt-get update tells me that line #5 is wrong
[15:36] <ngong> BluesKaj: "URI parse"
[15:37] <ngong_> BluesKaj: I may comment out #5 and #6, may that hurt?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ngong_, that's because there's no proper url for the repository , it should look like this  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted
[15:40] <BluesKaj> those are  2 lines btw
[15:41] <ngong_> BluesKaj: I commented out any line that contains "karmic" (about 15 lines), now it does some update. I wonder if this is ok.
[15:43] <ngong_> BluesKaj: could you paste me a sources.list that works with 9.10?
[15:43] <ma_> aiutoooooooooooooooooooo ! ! ! !
[15:43] <ma_> ma cos'è questo????
[15:44] <BluesKaj> ngong_, ok ..wait for a minute or 2
[15:44] <ma_> c'è nessuno che parla italiano qua dentro?
[15:44] <ma_> chi pò aiutarmi?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ngong_, this site will generate a sources list for your particular needs, http://techie-buzz.com/linux-tips/generate-a-sources-list-with-the-ubuntu-sources-list-generator.html
[15:45] <Kolia> !it |ma_
[15:46] <ma_> grazie ... e scusate
[15:46] <Kolia> no problemo ;)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ngong_, just rename your old list etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak , in case you need it if the new one doesn't do what you want
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ngong_,  correction , /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[15:49] <n8wulf> ngong, although commenting out anything with Karmic in it fixed your problem for now, read the earlier post about the URI that's incorrect
[15:49] <intech> hallo wo bin ich gelandet
 ngong_, that's because there's no proper url for the repository , it should look like this  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted
[15:50] <BluesKaj> oops i'm mixed up here , ngong_ too many ppl at once /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[15:50] <n8wulf> ngong just needs to fix that 2 lines as pointed out
[15:50] <ward__> :au VimEnter * NERDTree in my vimrc --> to open a nerdTREE when starting
[15:51] <ward__> but is it possible to set it also when a new tab is opened ?
[15:51] <ward__> :au TabEnter * NERDTree
[15:51] <n8wulf> ?
[15:51] <ward__> but that's when you enter the tab so multiple trees open
[15:51] <BluesKaj> n8wulf, well the site i posted is fine for karmic , if you guys are afraid of new repos then that's a different matter
[15:53] <BluesKaj> I still recommend saving the old source.list as /etc/apt/sources.list.bak , then you can always revert to it idf the newly generated one doesn't work
[15:54] <n8wulf> Howto "whisper" pls?
[15:54] <maco> whisper?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> I hit the wrong key and pm'd him'
[15:55] <n8wulf> yeah, send a msg to  user or PM them, but not in a separate Room
[15:55] <n8wulf> how to PM then
[15:56] <n8wulf> ?
[15:56] <Kolia> n8wulf: /query username
[15:56] <BluesKaj> right click on the nick in the chat text ,open query
[15:57] <BluesKaj> anyway I have errands to run ...bbl
[16:04] <anna_> BluesKaj: thats me again ngong on the laptop of my daughter, please see http://pastebin.ca/1744197 and http://pastebin.ca/1744179
[16:04] <anna_> BlueEagle: from the generator I got some entries with missing keys, how to get them?
[16:04] <n8wulf> ngong/anna , bluesKaj went offline for a while
[16:05] <n8wulf> as I have to do, time to make dinner
[16:06] <Alarm> is it possible to make icons not to go behind widgets ? for example some files/icons on my desktop go behind the Clock widget
[16:06] <anna_> n8wulf: thank you so far, I can install now, and I may figure out the error messages later
[16:06] <n8wulf> yes, you move the Clock out of the Way
[16:08] <ngong_> bye from here
[16:22] <njathan> is there a way to transfer files from windows share with 'resume' later support?
[16:23] <Alarm> is it possible to use shadows on my windows ? i use oxygen widget style
[16:26] <Izinucs> Where are wallpapers stored after you've used Desktop Settings to download a couple? I don't see what I downloaded in /usr>share>wallpapers>Air>contents.... just the original Air wallpaper
[16:29] <Swinger> i IRC therfore i am
[16:29] <njathan> Izinucs: its in /home/<uname>/.kde/share/wallpapers/
[16:29] <Swinger> how can i join other IRC networks?
[16:32] <Izinucs> njathan: thanks! that worked like a champ
[16:38] <Izinucs> Ok .. here's something irritating in Dolphin.  Using split screen and moving a file from one directory to another results in a dialoge box asking if you want to "move, copy or link here" and next to each of those option is the shortcut key.   Ctrl click drag doesn't work for "copy".  With a single file the file ends up un-selected... with multiple files it unselects the one you were pointing at when you hit CTRL.. Any solutions? or am I
[16:38] <Izinucs>  doing something wrong?
[16:42] <philyaw> I'm having trouble installing applications in Kubuntu
[16:42] <Izinucs> philyaw: how so?
[16:42] <qwertz> hi, i've a problem with the nepomuk search in dolphin in kde sc 4.4 rc1
[16:42] <philyaw> I want to install ndiswrapper, I am in the terminal in the ndiswrapper directory
[16:42] <qwertz> dolphin: symbol lookup error: dolphin: undefined symbol: _ZNK7Nepomuk5Query5Query11toSearchUrlEv
[16:43] <philyaw> when i type sudo dpkg -i ndisgtk_*.deb it says sudo dpkg -i ndisgtk_*.deb
[16:43] <philyaw> sorry, it says no such file or directory
[16:43] <philyaw> Here are the files it shows
[16:43] <philyaw> AUTHORS    driver   INSTALL           Makefile       ndiswrapper.spec  utils
[16:43] <philyaw> ChangeLog  drivers  loadndisdriver.8  ndiswrapper.8  README
[16:43] <Izinucs> philyaw: don't paste here
[16:43] <philyaw> sorry
[16:43] <philyaw> where would i paste
[16:44] <Izinucs> that's not bad.  it doesn't show a .deb in that listing..  larger paste's can be done at pastebin.com
[16:44] <philyaw> alright
[16:44] <philyaw> should I re-download it or something?
[16:45] <Izinucs> philyaw: what you have there is what looks like the source code that needs compiling.. That I can't help you with..
[16:46] <Alarm> are plasmoids related to widgets ?
[16:46] <philyaw> What should I google to figure this out
[16:46] <maco> Alarm: mostly theyre the same thing
[16:46] <maco> plasmoid is the technical term
[16:46] <maco> widget is the user-friendly one
[16:46] <maco> and then what language is used to write them has some bearing
[16:47] <Alarm> strange, i try to install this one : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Customizable+Weather+Plasmoid+%28CWP%29?content=98925 which is a widely used one
[16:47] <newbie123abc> where are KDE 4.4 RC1?
[16:47] <Alarm> from the widget application but i cant
[16:47] <maco> the widget application?
[16:47] <Alarm> i look for a good weather forecast widget
[16:47] <fire`lala> newbie123abc: still nothing there for karmic :-(
[16:47] <maco> oh get hot new stuff?
[16:47] <Alarm> yes, i mean the one you install remove widget from the desktop
[16:47] <newbie123abc> fire`lala: f............. grrrrrrrrrr
[16:47] <maco> it only shows a small handful of items
[16:48] <philyaw> When I'm trying to install a package and it tells me to insert the cd... and I have the Kubuntu cd in the tray.... and it keeps repeating to me to insert it and press enter...
[16:48] <Alarm> and going back to supercaramba is not an option
[16:48] <philyaw> What can I do?
[16:48] <newbie123abc> fire`lala: a lots of bugs on beta2....somebody savemeeeeeeeeeee
[16:48] <maco> if you choose different things between "recent" "popular" etc in that drop down, different ones show up
[16:48] <Alarm> i know, but nothing good for weather
[16:48] <philyaw> It says media change
[16:48] <maco> i dont know how to change which ones show up in ghns
[16:48] <philyaw> For unknown reasons
[16:49] <Mamarok> newbie123abc: what are you doing on Beta 2 if you are new? This is not meant for productive use
[16:49] <maco> philyaw: do you have internet access? just disable the cd and use the online repositories
[16:49] <Alarm> thats why i am trying to download theoone from kde-look
[16:49] <maco> philyaw: it may be assuming you have a *set* of cds with all the repos
[16:49] <philyaw> ah
[16:49] <philyaw> I pointed Kubuntu to several repositories
[16:49] <philyaw> I typed in Cancel
[16:49] <philyaw> and i think it did something
[16:50] <maco> but itll try to use the cd instead of the repositories if you have it enabled
[16:50] <maco> so disable the cd
[16:50] <philyaw> oh
[16:50] <philyaw> i see
[16:50] <philyaw> In that panel where I added repos
[16:51] <philyaw> Is this the official Kubuntu channel?
[16:51] <luis_> Sup Ubuntu I need your help: where is the option to make the openoffice calc sheet horizontal? thanks!
[16:52] <maco> philyaw: for user support, yeah
[16:52] <maco> luis_: format -> document, i think
[16:53] <maco> or format -> page
[16:53] <e01> hello
[16:53] <maco> one of those is OOo, one is MS Office for Mac...and i dont remember which is which at the moment
[16:53] <e01> i have kubuntu 9.10 on dell mini 9, but i can`t find wlan0
[16:53] <e01> there is only eth0 and eth1
[16:53] <maco> eth1 is it
[16:53] <e01> how can i add driver for wireless with monitor support
[16:54] <maco> some drivers name it eth1 some name it wlan0
[16:54] <philyaw> Apparently my wireless card doesn't work on my old inspiron laptop
[16:54] <philyaw> With Kubuntu
[16:54] <philyaw> Is there an easier way to get it to work than ndiswrapper?
[16:54] <maco> you'd have to tell us what it is
[16:54] <maco> Mamarok: are you around? i have to head out
[16:54] <philyaw> What what is?
[16:55] <maco> what the wireless card is
[16:55] <Mamarok> maco: not really, about to leave in a few minutes
[16:55] <e01> maco, yes eth1 is wireless to but haven`t monitor support
[16:55] <maco> e01: i dont know what you mean by monitor support, sorry
[16:55] <philyaw> Inspiron 1501 the card is Broadcom 1395 chipset
[16:55] <e01> i was reading in forum something for other broadcom driver
[16:55] <maco> philyaw: bcmwl driver should work
[16:55] <maco> bcmwl-kernel-source and bcmwl-modaliases
[16:55] <philyaw> It doesn't show any networks under wireless
[16:56] <maco> Mamarok: ok
[16:56] <maco> well those wireless questions can be answered in #ubuntu
[16:57] <maco> as they're not kde-specific
[16:57] <philyaw> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu/
[16:57] <maco> default applications
[16:57] <philyaw> I finally got through a guide to make it work and I'm gonna restart now
[16:57] <maco> and desktop environment
[16:57] <philyaw> Wish me luck
[16:57] <maco> gl
[17:04] <anna_> what is the recommended partition editor for kubuntu? gparted?
[17:05] <anna_> or is there an alternative?
[17:05] <Zorael> anna_: There is a Qt-based one simply called partitionmanager (in the repos), but I'd recommend you use gparted anyway
[17:07] <martijn> hi i want the nvidia driver to be installed, but i have no clue howto, seeing that every distro has another way to do this, anyone knows?
[17:09] <philyaw> I'm connected to my wireless network and my wifi light is illuminated!
[17:09] <philyaw> But.... Still can't pull up a webpage
[17:10] <martijn> i cannot get compositing to work currently
[17:11] <rama_> Hello. I am having trouble installing 9.10 on a desktop, because of the classical "sr0 I/O error". I have checked the jumpers of the optica drive and the hard drive, and the CD reader is at the far end of its cable. The md5 of the CD checks out and I have sucessfully installed a box from this CD. Anything else I should have tried ?
[17:21] <shadeslayer_> hey has anyone tried to install digikam and koffice-kde4 side by side?
[17:21] <newbie123abc> RC1 out?
[17:21] <shadeslayer_> newbie123abc: nope
[17:21] <newbie123abc> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:22] <newbie123abc> someone get me out overrrhere
[17:22] <newbie123abc> lol
[17:22] <shadeslayer_> newbie123abc: um there wont be ALOT of difference b/w beta 2 and RC1
[17:27] <newbie123abc> out?
[17:27] <shadeslayer_> newbie123abc: NO!!
[17:27] <newbie123abc> :P
[17:27]  * newbie123abc installing gentoo
[17:28] <shadeslayer_> newbie123abc: sure go ahead :D
[17:32] <gigi_> Hi is anyone out there who can help me installing a stupid new game?
[17:34] <gigi_> Hello? Tiny help please..
[17:34] <rork> gigi_: which game and from which source?
[17:34] <gigi_> Hi rork..thanks..
[17:34] <gigi_> ok..
[17:34] <gigi_> I am new so I'll try to explain
[17:35] <gigi_> source is..
[17:35] <gigi_> hold on..
[17:35] <gigi_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tressette
[17:36] <gigi_> game is tressette
[17:36] <gigi_> already downloaded
[17:36] <gigi_> extracted
[17:36] <gigi_> and followed stupidly instrunctions
[17:36] <gigi_> but doesn't work
[17:37] <rork> I guess the instructions are run "make" and "make install"?
[17:37] <gigi_> YESS
[17:38] <ilumi> is there an easy way to enable boot log on 9.10?
[17:38] <rork> did you get an error at either of them?
[17:38] <llutz> consider using checkinstall instead of just "make install"
[17:39] <gigi_> don't understand : what does "easy way to enable boot log on 9.10" mean?
[17:40] <llutz> ilumi: /etc/default/bootlogd set "BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes"
[17:40] <ilumi> llutz, did that, but still no log
[17:40] <ilumi> llutz, empty file
[17:41] <shadeslayer> yeah sorry for that
[17:41] <llutz> ilumi: not sure about karmic, but you need package sysvinit for bootlogd
[17:41] <llutz> ilumi: i guess it will interfere with upstart
[17:41] <shadeslayer> gigi_: whats the last message you got from me?
[17:42] <ilumi> llutz, ok, i found a post that talks about that, but that's not an easy way to get it to work
[17:43] <llutz> ilumi: hopefully there will be an easier one, when *buntu stops integrating upstart or upstart reaches a usable level
[17:43] <gigi> what..?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> gigi: untar the folder and check for any README and CMake files
[17:44] <ilumi> llutz, thanks
[17:44] <gigi> here you have the readme file text
[17:45] <gigi> Basic Installation
[17:45] <gigi> [17:45] <gigi>    These are generic installation instructions.
[17:45] <gigi>    The `configure' shell script attempts to guess correct values for
[17:45] <gigi> various system-dependent variables used during compilation.  It uses
[17:45] <FloodBotK1> gigi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <shadeslayer> gigi: please pastebin it
[17:45] <Bonster> morning
[17:50] <gigi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/354039/
[17:51] <shadeslayer> gigi: do you have the build files?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> like dev packages etc
[17:52] <shadeslayer> gigi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:52] <shadeslayer> gigi: that installs the required basic dev packages
[17:55] <shadeslayer> gigi_:there?
[17:55] <gigi_> yeah
[17:55] <gigi_> do you need again the url?
[17:55] <gigi_> or the explanation?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> gigi_: did you install the package?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:55] <gigi_> no!!!
[17:56] <gigi_> need the paste bin?
[17:56] <shadeslayer> gigi_: can you also pastebin any other INSTALL files?
[17:56] <gigi_> hold on
[17:56] <gunsofbrixton> hi, what's a good vector drawing software?
[17:56] <shadeslayer> gigi_: please install the build-essential package for compiling
[17:56] <gigi_> which means??
[17:57] <shadeslayer> gunsofbrixton: one sec
[17:57] <gunsofbrixton> shadeslayer: sure :)
[17:57] <shadeslayer> gunsofbrixton: for kde : karbon-kde4
[17:58] <shadeslayer> gigi_: its a basic package which has the CMake compiler and some standard stuff.... 5 MB download
[17:58] <shadeslayer> gunsofbrixton: there might be better ones out there,but karbon is KDE specific
[17:58] <gigi_> how do I get it and then which instructions do I have to give to the terminal?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> gigi_: um im telling you as we go along,you can read the README you just posted carefully if you want to cross check...
[17:59] <gunsofbrixton> shadeslayer: ok cool, I'll give that a try
[18:00] <shadeslayer> gigi_: well run ./configure in the unpacked folder and that should configure everything for you
[18:00] <shadeslayer> !vector
[18:00] <gigi_> did it many times
[18:00] <gigi_> doesn' work
[18:01] <shadeslayer> gigi_: yeah you need build-essential first
[18:01] <gigi_> well how
[18:02] <shadeslayer> gigi_: >< use : sudo apt-get install build-essential : in a terminal
[18:02] <shadeslayer> !compile | gigi_
[18:03] <shadeslayer> gigi_: better be quick ill be offline in 20 mins
[18:03] <gigi_> build-essential already in
[18:03] <shadeslayer> and you might have to wait for a long time before someone can help you :D
[18:04] <gigi_> it's at its last ver
[18:04] <gigi_> so now what?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> gigi_: ok now cd to the directory and pastebin any error it spits out
[18:04] <gigi_> right
[18:04] <shadeslayer> gigi_: (after running ./configure)
[18:04] <gigi_> Permesso negato
[18:05] <gigi_> denied
[18:05] <gigi_> access denied
[18:05] <gigi_> should I use sudo?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> gigi_: uh.. please pastebin the complete error
[18:05] <shadeslayer> gigi_: and where did you untar it? did you use sudo to untar it?
[18:05] <gigi_> bash: ./configure: Permesso negato
[18:06] <gigi_> it was not a tar
[18:06] <gigi_> it was a zip
[18:06] <gigi_> and no I did not use sudo
[18:06] <gigi_> I used gnome
[18:07] <shadeslayer> gigi_: where did you unzip it?
[18:07] <gigi_> normal graphic interface
[18:07] <gigi_> in the Tressette directory
[18:07] <gigi_> in which I am now
[18:07] <gigi_> the files are all there
[18:07] <shadeslayer> gigi_: ok,um try : chmod a+x (configure file here)
[18:08] <gigi_> done
[18:08] <shadeslayer> gigi_: now try to run it
[18:09] <gigi_> I wrote chmod a+x configure
[18:09] <gigi_> run what
[18:09] <gigi_> install?
[18:09] <gigi_> or make install?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> gigi_: now : ./configure
[18:10] <gigi_> bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: interprete errato: Nessun file o directory
[18:10] <shadeslayer> gigi_: um?
[18:10] <gigi_> no file or directory
[18:10] <tsimpson> it's a DOS formatted file, it needs to be converted to Unix style
[18:10] <shadeslayer> gigi_: are you in the directory where the unzipped files are?
[18:10] <gigi_> yes
[18:11] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: eh?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> (im just downloading the source)
[18:12] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: that ^M is the character Windows (and DOS) used to delimit lines
[18:12] <tsimpson> well, one of them anyway
[18:12] <shadeslayer> oh..
[18:12] <gigi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/354048/ this is the list of files
[18:12] <tsimpson> the tool tofrodos can be used to convert it to unix style
[18:12] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: so just chage the first line?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> gigi_: can you pastebin INSTALL too?
[18:13] <gigi_> yeah
[18:13] <gigi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/354052/
[18:14] <shadeslayer> gigi_: wasnt that the readme you posted?
[18:14] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: the whole thing needs converting, you install tofrodos and use "dos2unix <filename>" to convert
[18:14] <gigi_> yes
[18:14] <shadeslayer> gigi_: yeah so i need the INSTALL file mentioned in the list
[18:15] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: just the ./configure script?
[18:15] <gigi_> that is that one
[18:15] <draik> How can I get my old config of GRUB?
[18:15] <gigi_> it is called INSTALL
[18:15] <tsimpson> hopefully just that
[18:15] <draik> The new version of GRUB isn't being updated with new kernels
[18:15] <gigi_> but it's a text
[18:15] <shadeslayer> gigi_: and what about the README.txt?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> nevermind i downloaded it
[18:16] <gigi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/354056/
[18:16] <gigi_> it doesn' say anything
[18:16] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[18:16] <gigi_> does it?
[18:17] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:18] <gigi_> suggestions?
[18:18] <shadeslayer> gigi_: ok install tofrodos
[18:18] <gigi_> how??
[18:18] <shadeslayer> gigi_: i m trying to compile it here
[18:18] <shadeslayer> gigi_: same way as build-essential,swap build-essential with tofrodos
[18:18] <shadeslayer> gigi_: sudo apt-get install tofrodos
[18:19] <gigi_> done
[18:19] <shadeslayer> gigi_: dos2unix configure
[18:19] <gigi_> done
[18:20] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: http://pastebin.ca/1744358
[18:20] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: there are so many packages with SDL.... which one?
[18:20] <shadeslayer> gigi_: now : ./configure
[18:21] <shadeslayer> gigi_: any errors? please pastebin
[18:21] <gigi_> That's what happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/354057/
[18:21] <shadeslayer> gigi_: yeah im working on that
[18:22] <gigi_> Great!!!
[18:23] <shadeslayer> gigi_: you might need : libsdl-net1.2-dev : not sure though
[18:23] <gigi_> so?
[18:23] <gigi_> where do I get it?
[18:23] <shadeslayer> gigi_: just a sec,im installing the dev packages myself and ill let you know :D
[18:23] <shadeslayer> gimme 2 mins :P
[18:23] <gigi_> you're coooool!!!!
[18:24] <shadeslayer> thats cuz its 4oC outside
[18:25] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: libsdl1.2-dev
[18:25] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: not libsdl-net1.2-dev?
[18:25] <tsimpson> !find sdl-config
[18:26] <shadeslayer> ah..
[18:26] <shadeslayer> gigi_: install libsdl1.2-dev,thanks to tsimpson
[18:26] <tsimpson> if you type a command in a shell, and it's not install, it should tell you what package(s) has it
[18:26] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: libsdl-net1.2-dev worked too
[18:27] <gigi_> so what do I exactly do now?
[18:27] <tsimpson> because libsdl-net1.2-dev depends on libsdl1.2-dev, so you basically installed both
[18:27] <shadeslayer> gigi_: install  libsdl1.2-dev with : sudo apt-get install  libsdl1.2-dev
[18:27] <Izinucs> How do I configure "Forward" email in Kontact to include the original text?  It's currently defaulting to an attachment of the forwarded message.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: gah... make errors :P
[18:28] <gigi_> doin'
[18:28] <gigi_> workin' hard
[18:28] <tsimpson> put them on paste.ubuntu.com and I'll take a look
[18:28] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: http://pastebin.ca/1744374
[18:29] <gigi_> wow!
[18:29] <gigi_> 3 minutes remaining
[18:29] <Izinucs> There's a widget you can get that will put pastbin.com on the desktop.. drag file and drop
[18:30] <tsimpson> hmm missing .po files
[18:30] <Daughain> Such a useful widget, that.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> yep... theres no deps folder yet make looks for them
[18:30] <shadeslayer> Daughain: yeah
[18:31] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: checkout the out folder
[18:31] <shadeslayer> .dll's and .exe's
[18:32] <gigi_> done http://paste.ubuntu.com/354060/
[18:32] <shadeslayer> gigi_: now : ./configure
[18:33] <gigi_> done http://paste.ubuntu.com/354061/
[18:34] <shadeslayer> gigi_: now run : make
[18:35] <gigi_> error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/354063/
[18:35] <shadeslayer> gigi_: yeah tsimpson is checking that out :)
[18:36] <gigi_> thanks to you both guys!!
[18:37] <naftilos76> hi everyone, is there a subtitle editor for KDE ?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: i think there is one... one sec
[18:38] <naftilos76> i just can't remember which one...
[18:40] <naftilos76> shadeslayer - found anything?
[18:41] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: nope
[18:41] <shadeslayer> !find subtitle
[18:41] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: this source is really broken
[18:42] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: hmm... tell that to gigi_ :P
[18:42] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ksubeditor/
[18:42] <gigi_> what guys?
[18:42] <naftilos76> i know that - i was just wondering whether they have anything for KDE in the repos...
[18:42] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Subtitle+Composer?content=69822
[18:42] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: nope
[18:43] <gigi_> Help! You left me alone?
[18:44] <u19809> hi all, is there any OpenOffice specific channel ? After kubuntu upgrade my master pages no longer show when editing slides (they show in the slide show though)
[18:44] <shadeslayer> gigi_: the source is borked
[18:44] <shadeslayer> naftilos76: http://ppa.launchpad.net/goliash/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/s/subtitlecomposer/ << PPA for second link
[18:44] <gigi_> shit! so I have to give it up?
[18:45] <naftilos76> shadeslayer - thanks man!
[18:45] <shadeslayer> gigi_: afraid so.. unless tsimpson can come up with something magical
[18:45] <gigi_> :-(((((((((((((((((
[18:45] <gigi_> Thanks anyway guys, for the big effort.
[18:45] <shadeslayer> gigi_: why not try some other game?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> gigi_: from the repos
[18:45] <gigi_> there's not tressette
[18:46] <tsimpson> gigi_: looks like it's really only meant to compile on Windows
[18:46] <gigi_> whaaaaa!!!! :-(
[18:46] <shadeslayer> gigi_: lol...
[18:47] <tsimpson> and (speaking as someone who codes), it's poor quality
[18:47] <tsimpson> looks like it was written by a poorly educated child
[18:47] <tsimpson> on a bad day
[18:47] <gigi_> thanks again and again..
[18:47] <gigi_> by guys
[18:47] <gigi_> bye bye
[18:47] <shadeslayer> gigi_: bye :)
[18:53] <dod> buna
[18:54] <dod> am o prob cu ubuntu
[18:54] <draik> How can I revert to have GRUB which worked?
[19:01] <soee> hi
[19:01] <Pavel_S> hi
[19:02] <soee> guys why theres no kde 4.4 rc1 in ppa yet?
[19:03] <Quintasan> soee: nope, mesa was broken, fix was submitted and now it's building, when it's done we will probably get it released
[19:04] <soee> Quintasan: how lonk does it usualy take to build ?
[19:04] <soee> *long
[19:12] <Wolfcastle> hello
[19:12] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems installing a new icon theme in kubuntu karmic
[19:13] <Wolfcastle> when clicking install the mouse icon changes to busy
[19:13] <Wolfcastle> and after a while I get a message
[19:13] <Wolfcastle> saying "can't install icon theme"
[19:18] <Kqz> kompozer have syntax highlight??
[19:35] <Izinucs> How do I move all my Evolution contacts to Kontact?
[19:40] <milan> hi guys
[19:40] <milan> I need some graphic adapter help here
[19:40] <milan> its to damn confusing
[19:41] <milan> By default radeon is used, but no compositioning for kwin
[19:41] <milan> fglrx brought too much instability
[19:41] <mauri> how can activate zvbi in my karmic?
[19:44] <Wolfcastle> hello
[19:44] <Wolfcastle> how do you install a kdm theme?
[19:44] <Wolfcastle> it's in tar.gz format
[19:48] <froglet> I take it bugs in Jaunty are not being fixed, is that correct?  I still have a problem not being able to encrypt files with kgpg
[19:49] <froglet> Karmic is too unstable
[19:51] <froglet> I would put my netbook on the LTS version but nothing prior to Jaunty will install on my netbook
[19:51] <newbie123abc> RC1 out?
[19:57] <cybeh> hey all can anybody help me with xorg.conf issue with DVI output
[19:57] <cybeh> am getting a resolution for 1280x720
[19:58] <Izinucs> cybeh: what kind of card are you using?
[19:58] <cybeh> its a Intel DG35 Mainboard
[19:58] <cybeh> x3500
[19:58] <cybeh> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3109456.0
[19:58] <Izinucs> cybeh: ati x3500?
[19:59] <cybeh> nopes Intel has a manborad with onboard DVI
[19:59] <cybeh> read the forum post it will help
[20:01] <Izinucs> cybeh: did.. was just looking for the vid card type.. Intel cards are pretty well supported but have had some issues with the driver in the last couple of releases.. 9.10 I think is much better and will be better still in 10.04.  The thing is xorg.conf isn't really used unless you custom write one.. the entire vid system is controlled by xrandr and can be manipulated via cli for adding resolutions that are not immediately recognized.
[20:03] <Izinucs> cybeh: type xrandr into a terminal and it will output what resolutions are currently listed for xrandr to make use of.
[20:06] <Izinucs> cybeh: check out http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[20:09] <cybeh_> Izinucs: sorry lost the PPP link
[20:10] <cybeh_> do you have any suggestion?
[20:10] <Izinucs> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12  check out this link.. xrandr controls the video system.. xorg.conf is only used if you want to write a custom one..
[20:10] <Izinucs> cybeh: type xrandr into a terminal and it will output what resolutions are currently listed for xrandr to make use of.
[20:10] <Izinucs> cybeh: did.. was just looking for the vid card type.. Intel cards are pretty well supported but have had some issues with the driver in the last couple of releases.. 9.10 I think is much better and will be better still in 10.04.  The thing is xorg.conf isn't really used unless you custom write one.. the entire vid system is controlled by xrandr and can be manipulated via cli for adding resolutions that are not immediately recognized.
[20:10] <Izinucs> cybeh: those were the posts you might have missed
[20:11] <cybeh_> thanks
[20:11] <cybeh_> currently the DVI is disconneted should i Connect it
[20:14] <cybeh_> thanks Izinucs can I delete the existing modes
[20:14] <cybeh_> DVI1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1280x720       60.0 +   50.0 640x480        60.0
[20:15] <Izinucs> cybeh_: you mean what's listed in xrandr?
[20:15] <newbie123abc> RC1 out?
[20:16] <pinkisntwell> how can i set the mouse to scroll more than 12 lines each time/
[20:16] <pinkisntwell> ?
[20:16] <cybeh_> Izinucs: i added the 1024x768 mode
[20:16] <cybeh_> now its showing it in the xrandr
[20:17] <Izinucs> cybeh_: ok.. I'm confused as to what you're asking me
[20:18] <cybeh_> thanks mate looks like this should work
[20:18] <cybeh_> coz now i get the option of choosing the correct resolution
[20:18] <Izinucs> cybeh_: cool.. It's a different way of doing things..
[20:18] <cybeh_> in the DVI
[20:18] <cybeh_> yeah didnt know that its that simple
[20:18] <cybeh_> lemme restart xorg and come back
[20:19] <cybeh_> do i need to restart xorg
[20:19] <Izinucs> but not overly intuitive.. you have know about it then search for the how to's.. for a new user that can be problemmatic.. (one reason why I stick with nvidia)
[20:19] <cybeh_> coz I think I just got an error of mode not supported
[20:20] <cybeh_> its flashing mode not supported on the screen when I switch to HDMI
[20:23] <iconmefisto> have you created your own xorg.conf? or running without one?
[20:27] <soee> kubuntu.org: KDE SC 4.4 Release Candidate 1 packages available :D
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> wow, that was quick
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> I just posted that :)
[20:27] <soee> i dont have them in updates :/
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> hmm, might be a few minutes more
[20:28] <soee> ok
[20:28] <soee> ok theyr here :D
[20:28] <soee> thanx a lot !! :D
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> :)
[20:29] <soee> updating, we will see how it works now -.-
[20:29] <JontheEchidna> oh, almost forgot to add a note about virtuoso....
[20:34] <Izinucs> what's available for kde that is similar to Picasa?  cataloging, tagging etc
[20:38] <soee> brb
[20:41] <soee> i have a feeling that with rc1 kubuntu works a bit faster
[20:43] <iconmefisto> JontheEchidna: maybe you can give me a definitive answer. is pulseaudio installed by default in kubuntu karmic?
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> iconmefisto: It is not installed by default.
[20:43] <iconmefisto> thanks
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> no prob
[20:43] <soee> hmm, there are still some annoying bugs :(
[20:44] <iconmefisto> soee: such as?
[20:44] <JontheEchidna> Izinucs: maybe digikam is what you're looking for?
[20:45] <Laeborg> !compiz
[20:46] <Laeborg> How does this works with KDE ?
[20:46] <iconmefisto> soee: plasma UI bugs, or worse?
[20:46] <soee> inclement: i have 2 panels on my desktop, if i click the one @ the top and open bar with widgets then if i close it there are some artefacts after this bar
[20:46] <Tm_T> Laeborg: works
[20:46] <Tm_T> soee: blame might be in graphicsdrivers
[20:47] <soee> inclement: now after updates there are also some strange signs on top panel background
[20:47] <Tm_T> Dekans: please don't use awaynicks
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> oh, actually I think that's not a graphics driver bug. let me see if I can find the kde bug
[20:47] <Laeborg> just apt-get install compiz ?
[20:47] <soee> inclement: also on the tool box background
[20:47] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: you know there are kwin desktop effects, right?
[20:48] <Laeborg> nope
[20:48] <Laeborg> ah
[20:48] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: right-click the titlebar of a kde window, configure desktop behaviour
[20:49] <inclement> soee: I'm not sure you mean 'inclement' there
[20:49] <soee> inclement: wait a moment
[20:51] <Laeborg> http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/402529051bd.png/
[20:51] <Izinucs> JontheEchidna: I have that and it's a great program but doesn't do what Picasa does.. could be I just haven't found all its features yet..
[20:53] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: what version kde/kubuntu?
[20:53] <soee> inclement: look @ the 1st screen: http://yfrog.com/j0zrzutekranu6dp (the top bar)
[20:53] <Laeborg> kde 4.3.2, kubuntu 9.10
[20:54] <Laeborg> I guess it could something with my dual monitor ?
[20:54] <JontheEchidna> soee: I seem to remember seeing a but about that at bugs.kde.org, but I can't find it at the moment
[20:54] <JontheEchidna> *a bug about that
[20:55] <soee> JontheEchidna: ok, ill show u the tool box, wait a moment
[20:56] <iconmefisto> Laeborg: I've had some effects not activating before, but cube, login and logout, fade, window switching ones, they've always worked for me
[20:56] <soee> inclement, JontheEchidna: this happens sometimes: http://yfrog.com/e5zrzutekranu7p but usually it looks like.. (wait a moment -:)
[20:58] <soee> inclement, JontheEchidna: http://yfrog.com/2dzrzutekranu8ip this is how tool box looks like (look @ background)
[20:58] <soee> those whote shapes can be faund also @ the top bar background
[20:58] <soee> *white
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> the square in the box is a change to the air theme: http://imagebin.ca/view/Fsgv9sju.html
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> it used to be circles
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> my toolbox looks like this, I think the square placement is semi-random: http://imagebin.ca/view/1CHOhWk.html
[21:00] <soee> JontheEchidna: your tb looks good, but with mine there is something wrong i think :/
[21:04] <soee> can u tell me, how can i turn off white "shadows" around texts in infoboxes (the ones you when you hover icon etc)
[21:04] <soee> *ones u see
[21:10] <philyaw> how do i download the latest headers?
[21:13] <Izinucs> philyaw: typically you use the update manager.. if they are there then there's no issue.. if they are not and you're getting them from someplace else then you need to know what you're doing.  If you have to ask you shouldn't
[21:13] <Izinucs> philyaw: maybe.. I miss read.. headers for an existing kernel? not a kernel?  then it will be in the package manager..
[21:14] <philyaw> Eh, I'm trying to get my wireless card to work in Kubuntu and I get error messages when following any guide
[21:14] <philyaw> All guides I'm following are specific for Ubuntu
[21:15] <philyaw> Could the fact I'm using Kubunt affect the installation process?
[21:15] <Izinucs> philyaw: nope.
[21:15] <Izinucs> philyaw: headers should be in the repo's for your kernel though.. they have to be matched to your kernel..
[21:16] <philyaw> lzinucs, "You need a recent kernel, at least 2.6.16, with header files for the
[21:16] <philyaw> kernel. Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules
[21:16] <philyaw> directory should have at least 'include' directory and '.config' file."
[21:17] <philyaw> I have most recent headers yet I don't have the .config file
[21:17] <Izinucs> philyaw:  are you running the 9.10 release?
[21:17] <philyaw> Yes
[21:17] <Izinucs> philyaw: what kernel are you running the 15 or 17?
[21:18] <philyaw> lzinucs, Not sure, how can I tell?
[21:19] <iconmefisto> uname -r
[21:19] <philyaw> 2.6.31-14-generic
[21:19] <Izinucs> philyaw: on my system I have both the .16 & the newer .17 .. open kPackageKit and search for "headers" the packages with an "X" next to them on the right means they are installed.. If you havent done your updates yet do that.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. and you should receive them
[21:23] <philyaw> I'm getting error messages every time I try to do something
[21:23] <philyaw> I can't set up ndiswrapper because of this
[21:23] <philyaw> How do I reinstall Kubuntu?
[21:23] <LostCause> whats the error?
[21:24] <philyaw> just a sec
[21:24] <iconmefisto> philyaw: tried installing linux-headers-generic ?
[21:24] <philyaw> Yeah, i have the latest of pretty much everything
[21:24] <Izinucs> I don't think he has an internet connection on that computer.
[21:24] <philyaw> I am online on it now
[21:24] <philyaw> I just have to have it plugged in
[21:24] <Izinucs> oh.. ok
[21:25] <datr> wow
[21:25] <philyaw> I got my light to come on and it says im connected to my network
[21:25] <soee> do u know how can i turn off this background around texts: http://img31.yfrog.com/i/62010128.png/?
[21:25] <philyaw> But the DCHP isn't coming through
[21:25] <LostCause> this is the computer your on right now?
[21:26] <philyaw> Yeah
[21:26] <LostCause> did you give it a static address?
[21:26] <philyaw> I don't know
[21:27] <philyaw> The problem I"m having during install is when i use the "make" command
[21:28] <philyaw> home/philyaw/ndiswrapper-1.55/driver/ntoskernel.h:905: error: implicit declaration of function ‘cmpxchg8b’
[21:30] <Izinucs> philyaw: the problem is you can't get to the net and update your system.. once that done you'll have the right headers etc. AND you may discover that your wireless will "just work"
[21:30] <philyaw> lzinucs, I'm online on the computer right now and have updated headers
[21:30] <iconmefisto> soee: are you using folder view on your desktop?
[21:30] <philyaw> I also have some distros as well
[21:31] <soee> iconmefisto: yes i do
[21:31] <philyaw> sorry, repos
[21:31] <iconmefisto> soee: right-click on desktop, folder view activity settings
[21:31] <iconmefisto> soee: then go to display, and turn off "shadows"
[21:33] <iconmefisto> soee: let me know if that fixed it
[21:33] <soee> iconmefisto: this option allows me to turn off shadow under icon names only
[21:33] <iconmefisto> soee: did you try it?
[21:33] <soee> iconmefisto: yes
[21:34] <soee> iconmefisto: maybe i have to logout or reboot also ?
[21:34] <iconmefisto> soee: on mine it changes when I click OK on the dialog. and it doesn't seem to affect icon text, just the popups when hovering
[21:35] <philyaw> How do I search for non-application type files
[21:35] <philyaw> like driver/ntoskernel.h
[21:35] <soee> :/
[21:35] <soee> iconmefisto: u are on 4.4 rc1?
[21:36] <iconmefisto> soee: yes, just installed. maybe I should log out/in
[21:36] <soee> iconmefisto: im after reboot
[21:36] <iconmefisto> soee: ok I'll reboot and see what happens
[21:36] <soee> iconmefisto: ok
[21:39] <philyaw> Someone on a forum had  a crazy fix that made the "make" command work for me
[21:43] <ahsan> hello
[21:43] <ahsan> can anybody help
[21:43] <ahsan> i just upgraded my hardy to karmic
[21:43] <Kolia> !ask - ahsan
[21:44] <ahsan> n den installed firefox 3.5 over 3
[21:44] <Kolia> !ask |ahsan
[21:45] <iconmefisto> soee: same as before, but you're right, that setting only affects icons, not plasma widget text
[21:46] <soee> iconmefisto: and u have this shadow also ?
[21:47] <ahsan> ok after upgrading to karmic i tried to upgrade firefox from 3.5 to 3, but none of em r working neither i m geting any icon in list of internet programmes, n my kpackagekit is not working after tat, its givivg msg to install apt or synaptic n try to resolve brken dependencies
[21:47] <ahsan> i m new t linux
[21:48] <iconmefisto> soee: on widgets yes, on icon text on the desktop no, but on text when hovering on desktop icons, yes. when I turn off shadows, the shadows on hovered icons disappears, but not the text on other widgets
[21:48] <soee> iconmefisto: ok
[21:49] <iconmefisto> soee: maybe the plasma widgets don't know about that setting in 4.4RC and will eventually be updated?
[21:50] <soee> iconmefisto: do u have some eee... bug maybe? when iresizing some program widnow - a bit transparent blue area?
[21:51] <Daatr> i have ubuntu. i installed kubuntu, now i want uninstall it. how?
[21:51] <iconmefisto> window resizing seems fine here. in what window does this happen? all windows?
[21:52] <LostCause> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:52] <LostCause> or you could just select a gnome seesion at the login window
[21:52] <LostCause> session
 tnx
[21:53] <ahsan> my kpackagekit is not working
[21:53] <iconmefisto> Daatr: that won't remove much at all. look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:54] <Daatr> tnank you
[21:55] <Daatr> hm... sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <soee> iconmefisto: yes all windows when im holding mouse button pressed and resizing
[21:55] <Daatr> Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[21:55] <Daatr> but i still have kde session
[21:56] <ahsan> my software management kit is not working n i m not able to open hotmail  in konqueror
[21:58] <dthacker> Hi,  I'm trying to connect my printer to my Kubuntu system, but I'm unable to print a test page.
[21:58] <dthacker> The printer is communicating, but wants me to PC LOAD EXEC
[22:00] <soee> ok here is the tip how to crash program luncher: run pl using alt+f1, type some text and hold right arrow, it will crash, run it again and o the same, this time its dead for good :/
[22:00] <iconmefisto> Daatr: you have to remove the packages that the kubuntu-desktop meta-package installed. follow the link I posted ^^
[22:00] <soee> *alt+f2
[22:00] <Daatr> thank you! :)
[22:07] <Xnet0> Hello, I am having problems with the GRUB bootloader. Could anyone help?
[22:07] <soee> someone who is using vlc ?
[22:08] <iconmefisto> Xnet0, soee: details?
[22:08] <ahsan> plz  help me wid Kpackagelist
[22:09] <iconmefisto> ahsan: what's wrong?
[22:09] <soee> inclement: if i run vlc (doesnt matter if it plas something or not) there are some lags when i draw selection on desktop
[22:10] <Xnet0> iconmefistom, Error: 17 (which i know to be related to partition tables. After looking at the partitions on my hard drive, the Windows XP partition is black coloured and has a warning sign. The name is "unknown". I am unable to boot into both Liinux and Windows. Also, Linux cannot recognise the harddrive.)
[22:10] <Xnet0> I feel as if a major error has occured. I think I lost all of my stuff.
[22:12] <iconmefisto> Xnet0: karmic 9.10 ?
[22:12] <Xnet0> No, its actually 9.04, but the issue is with grub.. I cant seem to recover my files.
[22:13] <Xnet0> The Windows partition is unaccessable.
[22:13] <iconmefisto> Xnet0: so you haven't installed grub2, right?
[22:13] <iconmefisto> !grub
[22:14] <Xnet0> thx ill check it out
[22:15] <siegie> I can't transfer files from my phone with bluetooth, to my notebook. I must give an access code. Communication from my notebook to the phone works fine. Does anyone know the default code?
[22:18] <iconmefisto> soee: seems you have quite a few desktop-related quirks. maybe try creating a new user and see if it's still the same there. or rename ~/.kde/share/config to ~/.kde/share/config.backup and log out/in and see if there is any difference with new settings
[22:18] <soee> iconmefisto: ok ill try
[22:19] <iconmefisto> soee: if you do the renaming of config folder, to restore your old desktop settings you should rename config.backup when kde is NOT running, then log in
[22:22] <siegie> problem solved  Its 0000
[22:24] <Philyll> What was the command to remove the Linux partition?
[22:27] <newbie123abc> hi roman
[22:27] <newbie123abc> s
[22:28] <newbie123abc> RC1 out?
[22:28] <Tm_T> newbie123abc: see topic
[22:28] <ahsan_> hello
[22:28] <newbie123abc> ops
[22:29] <ahsan_> kpackagelist not working , giving msg to use apt or synaptic yo resolve broken dependencies so temme how can i resove broken dependencies
[22:31] <newbie123abc> Great
[22:31] <newbie123abc> rs
[22:42] <ceo> Greetings
[22:42] <Daughain> Mortning.
[22:42] <ceo> so what is the purpose of this system
[22:43] <ceo> im a newbie
[22:43] <Daughain> To runb a computer?
[22:43] <solaris> saludos
[22:44] <Daughain> Well, Ibguess tehcnically to allow a human useable interface for silicon chips.
[22:44] <ahsan_> kpackagelist not working , giving msg to use apt or synaptic yo resolve broken dependencies so temme how can i resove broken dependencies
[22:44] <Daughain> ahsan_: Try update manager?
[22:46] <soee> iconmefisto: ok im on new settings and the problem with resizing dissapeard but thr vlc still makes lags with selection, maybe its the program fault ?
[22:51] <xixor> Howdy, just to confirm, the kubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso image will be the 64 bit image for intel processors as well right?  Not just AMD?
[22:58] <supermagnum> hi, do anyone know how i can load s19 files in to a megasquirt with linux ?
[23:10] <newbie123abc> nepomuk doesn't work.
[23:10] <newbie123abc> Virtuoso RDF server required...what is that?
[23:12] <soee> newbie123abc: tid u installed virtuoso-server and driver ?
[23:12] <soee> *did
[23:13] <newbie123abc> soee: which packages?
[23:13] <soee> newbie123abc: virtuoso-server  and virtuoso-driver
[23:13] <newbie123abc> soee: srry
[23:15] <soee> guys do still have networkmanager crash when loggin out.rebooting etc ?
[23:16] <newbie123abc> soee: networkmanager appear at top left side
[23:16] <newbie123abc> soee: strageous
[23:16] <newbie123abc> strangeous
[23:16] <newbie123abc> mixer too
[23:17] <soee> newbie123abc: i have mixer on the right position but networmmanager is in upper left corner :/
[23:17] <soee> and still crashing plasma when turning off
[23:17] <sourcemaker_> are you using ext4 as your default file system?
[23:17] <soee> sourcemaker_: who ?
[23:17] <newbie123abc> soee: in the 4.4 beta 2 mixer appear on the correct position
[23:17] <newbie123abc> soee: but RC1 not
[23:17] <sourcemaker_> soee: all of you :-)
[23:18] <soee> sourcemaker_: yes im on ext4
[23:18] <newbie123abc> sourcemaker_: me too
[23:18] <sourcemaker_> soee: do you think it is really faster?
[23:20] <soee> sourcemaker_: i dont know im using it long time and works fine for me :)
[23:20] <sourcemaker_> soee: ok thanks
[23:26] <max_> Can anyone help me get MIDI working in kubuntu? I'm trying to update some musical gear with a MIDI to USB cable, but when the program that updates it tries to connect it tells me that the "MIDI Device is Busy"
[23:32] <philyaw> how do I remove ubuntu?
[23:33] <philyaw> or kubuntu
[23:41] <newbie123abc> okular bug persists
[23:42] <Quintasan> newbie123abc: might being more precise? what bug and when? can you reproduce it?
[23:42] <newbie123abc> when a file is saved, okular refreshs at top of document
[23:42] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: ^
[23:42] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: lastest version that works is 4.3.4
[23:43] <Quintasan> newbie123abc: and you are running?
[23:43] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: 4.3.90
[23:43] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: kde's version
[23:43] <Quintasan> newbie123abc: well, check KDE bugzilla for it
[23:45] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: how could i force a version without kde-full bug me?
[23:45] <Quintasan> newbie123abc: wait, what? I somehow fail to follow your thought proccess
[23:46] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: i wold like to just install okular 4.3.4 n' lock at that version
[23:47] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: kde-full 4.3.90 pseudo-require okular 4.3.90
[23:48] <Quintasan> sudo apt-get install okular=<theversionyouwant>
[23:49] <newbie123abc> Quintasan: but, every time i want upgrade system, aptitude: or remove kde-full, or remove updates okular
[23:49] <newbie123abc> ", or updates okular"*
[23:49] <Quintasan> newbie123abc: hmm, beats me then :(
[23:57] <Shaun32> what's up