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mdkenixternal: actually wiki.ubuntu.com isn't licensed at all. It's a bit of an issue - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiLicensing13:40
mdkeRocket2DMn: hi :)14:27
Rocket2DMnhey mdke14:29
Rocket2DMnlong time no chat buddy14:29
Rocket2DMnhow are you?14:29
mdkevery well thanks, you?14:29
mdkeI'm just preparing an upload of ubuntu-docs but it is taking me ages because you've fixed so many bugs!14:29
Rocket2DMndoin ok, just woke up and ready to rock n roll14:29
mdkeawesome work14:29
Rocket2DMncool, thanks, I've been able to enlist a bit of help, though I haven't gotten much back from those people yet14:30
mdkeSomeone called Scott Shields seems to appear a fair bit14:32
mdkebut your name is all over this changelog :)14:33
Rocket2DMnYes, Scott has done some work, Vikram is also trying to get started, though I think he is mainly tasked with kubuntu-docs right now14:34
mdkegood stuff14:35
mdkeafter the upload is done and the bugs are closed, it might be worth having a quick sweep for bugs still marked as "Fix Committed" to see if I missed any in the changelog14:35
Rocket2DMnok14:35
Rocket2DMnmost of the bugs that were fixed were not complicated ones, there are still quite a few outstanding14:36
Rocket2DMnI also closed off a number of help requests and upgrade crash reports over a period of time (most of them were "short reads")14:36
mdkegreat, thanks14:38
mdkewonder why we get so many of those14:38
Rocket2DMnwell ubuntu-docs is a failry large package isnt it?14:40
Rocket2DMnwe also have a fair number of files included, so i wouild expect we would get more than others14:41
mdkeyes, the upgrade seems to take quite a long time14:42
Rocket2DMnI also prioritized that majority of remaining bugs which helps give us a clearer idea of where we need to focus attention.  There shouldn't be any more High priority bugs by the time we release for Lucid and most or all of the medium ones should be fixed as well14:42
mdkeawesome work dude14:42
mdkeright, a test build and then I'll do the upload14:43
Rocket2DMnI was able to find more time than I expected over the holidays, but I can't maintain that level at this point14:43
* mdke nods14:43
mdkeok, I'm going to leave this build running and come back later14:45
Rocket2DMnok14:46
Rocket2DMnmdke, do you have instructions anywhere on how to do the build and deploy process for ubuntu-docs? Not that I want to do it ( I dont!), but it would be good to have that info somewhere14:46
Rocket2DMnincluding what needs to be done to get updates pushed to the web14:46
Rocket2DMnk i gotta run some errands mdke , i'll bbl, feel free to leave messages and i'll check them out when i can14:56
mdkeRocket2DMn: for the package, it's nothing special, just basic level packaging. You need specific upload rights to upload it though15:32
mdkeRocket2DMn: for the website, it's set out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/BuildingDocumentation15:32
Rocket2DMnthanks mdke , on that topic see bug 50229916:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 502299 in ubuntu-docs "The Ubuntu Installer documentation translations aren't published online" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50229916:03
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Rocket2DMnmdke, Vikram asked me to have you look at his latest patch for bug 38165017:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 381650 in ubuntu-docs "help.ubuntu.com does not tell you how to determine which version you have" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38165017:37
Rocket2DMnlol that fixed 40 bugs19:24
Rocket2DMn41 actually19:24
Rocket2DMnmdke, looks like we missed a few, there are some bugs still marked as Fix Committed19:32
Rocket2DMnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/49491219:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 494912 in ubuntu-docs "9.10 Help Documentation error >> Internet and Networks>> Chapter 2. Connecting" [Low,Fix committed]19:36
Rocket2DMnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/45226219:36
Rocket2DMnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/44966719:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 452262 in ubuntu-docs "Wrong apt: link in musicvideophotos" [Medium,Fix committed]19:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 449667 in ubuntu-docs "Small mistake in chapter "Hardware" in the Ubuntu documentation" [Medium,Fix committed]19:36
Rocket2DMnmdke, is there anything you need to do with those? Or do we just mark them as Fix Released manually19:38
mdkeRocket2DMn: as long as you are satisfied that the fix actually is in the package, please just mark them as fix released. If you like you can state that it is released in version 10.04.120:06
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Rocket2DMnok mdke , i know they are in the ubuntu-docs branch, i can update my lucid install and check there too20:07
mdkeRocket2DMn: as long as they are in the lucid branch, that's fine.20:08
Rocket2DMnok, i'll mark them, i did double check that they are in the branch20:08
mdkethanks, sorry for missing em20:08
Rocket2DMnmdke, can you let me know about bug 460365 - I think we already have this, but it's the way we export that causes the problem20:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 460365 in ubuntu-translations "Create a separate license document and include it in all documents" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46036520:08
Rocket2DMnno problem20:08
Rocket2DMnhmm i dont see ubuntu-docs in lucid yet, either its still pending or the mirror im using isnt up to date yet20:10
mdkeit will take some significant time to build20:11
Rocket2DMnits ok20:12
mdkeas to bug 460365, I don't think that there is a simple solution for that. It's because we include the legalnotice file as an entity, and when translations are generated, entities are expanded so that they are incorporated directly into the translation file20:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 460365 in ubuntu-translations "Create a separate license document and include it in all documents" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46036520:13
Rocket2DMnthat's what I thought20:14
Rocket2DMnDoes Rosetta force you to re-translate strings in separate documents even if they are exactly the same?20:15
mdkeyes, but it offers suggestions for identical strings so it can just be copy/pasted20:16
Rocket2DMnunderstood20:18
dhillon-v10mdke, hi, happy new year, there were some other little bugs in the docs, that I attached a patch to, can you review them when you get some time20:20
dhillon-v10Rocket2DMn, hi :)20:20
Rocket2DMnhey dhillon-v10 , whats up20:22
mdkedhillon-v10: happy new year to you. yep, I have a few bugs on my todo list that Rocket2DMn has kindly sorted for me :)20:22
dhillon-v10mdke, thanks a bunch :)20:22
dhillon-v10Rocket2DMn, nothing much, how about you20:22
Rocket2DMnhehe, any ideas on that license bug mdke ?  Is there anything we can actually do about it?20:22
dhillon-v10Rocket2DMn, how about we just mark it invalid because it a *lot* of work20:23
Rocket2DMndhillon-v10, just talkin to mdke about some bugs, we have quite a list20:23
dhillon-v10Rocket2DMn, okay :)20:23
Rocket2DMnlol dhillon-v10 , i don't think so.  If it's something we decide not to fix, we could close it as Won't Fix, but if we think it is something that could be adjusted to make life easier for translators, we should see what we can do20:24
mdkeRocket2DMn: I'm posting to the bug and will have a think about it20:24
mdkemaybe David will have some ideas20:25
Rocket2DMnsounds good mdke20:25
Rocket2DMnwell mdke since you're still here, i'll keeping throwing bugs at you :)20:28
Rocket2DMnin my email i mentioned bugs open for stable releases (esp. Intrepid)20:29
Rocket2DMnwhat would you like to do with those?20:29
Rocket2DMnwe can address them individually of course20:29
mdkeI'm going to have a poke around with this translation item20:33
Rocket2DMnmdke, on the topic of translations - bug 362871 - does that need to be open against Ubuntu Translations project?20:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 362871 in ubuntu-docs "Main Page and Windows Glossary aren't RTL in Arabic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36287120:47
mdkeok, can't think of anything for the legalnotice one20:51
* mdke gives up20:51
mdkeI wonder if 362871 is a yelp bug20:52
dhillon-v10mdke, could it be a problem in rendering20:53
mdkehmm20:54
Rocket2DMnhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57315921:02
ubot4Gnome bug 573159 in stylesheets "rtl problems rendering tables of contents in yelp" [Blocker,Needinfo]21:02
Rocket2DMni'm gonna re-assign the bug to yelp and request the OP to test it in 9.1021:03
shaunmif somebody could attach a docbook file to an upstream yelp bug, it would help me fix it21:06
Rocket2DMnshaunm, what bug?21:06
Rocket2DMnthat one i just mentioned?21:07
shaunmhmm21:08
Rocket2DMni dont have any in other languages i dont think21:08
shaunmthis looks like a different rtl issue than that bug21:08
shaunmthere was another bug open about rtl issues, but it was closed recently21:08
shaunma new bug would be easiest21:08
Rocket2DMnshaunm, let's see if the reporter sees the problem in 9.10.  if it's still an issue, we can open a new bug upstream21:09
shaunmok21:15
shaunmI did do a lot of RTL fixes in yelp 2.2821:15
mdkethanks Rocket2DMn21:22

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