[13:40] <mdke> nixternal: actually wiki.ubuntu.com isn't licensed at all. It's a bit of an issue - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiLicensing
[14:27] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: hi :)
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> hey mdke
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> long time no chat buddy
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> how are you?
[14:29] <mdke> very well thanks, you?
[14:29] <mdke> I'm just preparing an upload of ubuntu-docs but it is taking me ages because you've fixed so many bugs!
[14:29] <Rocket2DMn> doin ok, just woke up and ready to rock n roll
[14:29] <mdke> awesome work
[14:30] <Rocket2DMn> cool, thanks, I've been able to enlist a bit of help, though I haven't gotten much back from those people yet
[14:32] <mdke> Someone called Scott Shields seems to appear a fair bit
[14:33] <mdke> but your name is all over this changelog :)
[14:34] <Rocket2DMn> Yes, Scott has done some work, Vikram is also trying to get started, though I think he is mainly tasked with kubuntu-docs right now
[14:35] <mdke> good stuff
[14:35] <mdke> after the upload is done and the bugs are closed, it might be worth having a quick sweep for bugs still marked as "Fix Committed" to see if I missed any in the changelog
[14:35] <Rocket2DMn> ok
[14:36] <Rocket2DMn> most of the bugs that were fixed were not complicated ones, there are still quite a few outstanding
[14:36] <Rocket2DMn> I also closed off a number of help requests and upgrade crash reports over a period of time (most of them were "short reads")
[14:38] <mdke> great, thanks
[14:38] <mdke> wonder why we get so many of those
[14:40] <Rocket2DMn> well ubuntu-docs is a failry large package isnt it?
[14:41] <Rocket2DMn> we also have a fair number of files included, so i wouild expect we would get more than others
[14:42] <mdke> yes, the upgrade seems to take quite a long time
[14:42] <Rocket2DMn> I also prioritized that majority of remaining bugs which helps give us a clearer idea of where we need to focus attention.  There shouldn't be any more High priority bugs by the time we release for Lucid and most or all of the medium ones should be fixed as well
[14:42] <mdke> awesome work dude
[14:43] <mdke> right, a test build and then I'll do the upload
[14:43] <Rocket2DMn> I was able to find more time than I expected over the holidays, but I can't maintain that level at this point
[14:43]  * mdke nods
[14:45] <mdke> ok, I'm going to leave this build running and come back later
[14:46] <Rocket2DMn> ok
[14:46] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, do you have instructions anywhere on how to do the build and deploy process for ubuntu-docs? Not that I want to do it ( I dont!), but it would be good to have that info somewhere
[14:46] <Rocket2DMn> including what needs to be done to get updates pushed to the web
[14:56] <Rocket2DMn> k i gotta run some errands mdke , i'll bbl, feel free to leave messages and i'll check them out when i can
[15:32] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: for the package, it's nothing special, just basic level packaging. You need specific upload rights to upload it though
[15:32] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: for the website, it's set out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/BuildingDocumentation
[16:02] <Rocket2DMn> thanks mdke , on that topic see bug 502299
[16:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 502299 in ubuntu-docs "The Ubuntu Installer documentation translations aren't published online" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502299
[17:37] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, Vikram asked me to have you look at his latest patch for bug 381650
[17:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381650 in ubuntu-docs "help.ubuntu.com does not tell you how to determine which version you have" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381650
[19:24] <Rocket2DMn> lol that fixed 40 bugs
[19:24] <Rocket2DMn> 41 actually
[19:32] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, looks like we missed a few, there are some bugs still marked as Fix Committed
[19:36] <Rocket2DMn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/494912
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 494912 in ubuntu-docs "9.10 Help Documentation error >> Internet and Networks>> Chapter 2. Connecting" [Low,Fix committed]
[19:36] <Rocket2DMn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/452262
[19:36] <Rocket2DMn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/449667
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 452262 in ubuntu-docs "Wrong apt: link in musicvideophotos" [Medium,Fix committed]
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 449667 in ubuntu-docs "Small mistake in chapter "Hardware" in the Ubuntu documentation" [Medium,Fix committed]
[19:38] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, is there anything you need to do with those? Or do we just mark them as Fix Released manually
[20:06] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: as long as you are satisfied that the fix actually is in the package, please just mark them as fix released. If you like you can state that it is released in version 10.04.1
[20:07] <Rocket2DMn> ok mdke , i know they are in the ubuntu-docs branch, i can update my lucid install and check there too
[20:08] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: as long as they are in the lucid branch, that's fine.
[20:08] <Rocket2DMn> ok, i'll mark them, i did double check that they are in the branch
[20:08] <mdke> thanks, sorry for missing em
[20:08] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, can you let me know about bug 460365 - I think we already have this, but it's the way we export that causes the problem
[20:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 460365 in ubuntu-translations "Create a separate license document and include it in all documents" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460365
[20:08] <Rocket2DMn> no problem
[20:10] <Rocket2DMn> hmm i dont see ubuntu-docs in lucid yet, either its still pending or the mirror im using isnt up to date yet
[20:11] <mdke> it will take some significant time to build
[20:12] <Rocket2DMn> its ok
[20:13] <mdke> as to bug 460365, I don't think that there is a simple solution for that. It's because we include the legalnotice file as an entity, and when translations are generated, entities are expanded so that they are incorporated directly into the translation file
[20:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 460365 in ubuntu-translations "Create a separate license document and include it in all documents" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460365
[20:14] <Rocket2DMn> that's what I thought
[20:15] <Rocket2DMn> Does Rosetta force you to re-translate strings in separate documents even if they are exactly the same?
[20:16] <mdke> yes, but it offers suggestions for identical strings so it can just be copy/pasted
[20:18] <Rocket2DMn> understood
[20:20] <dhillon-v10> mdke, hi, happy new year, there were some other little bugs in the docs, that I attached a patch to, can you review them when you get some time
[20:20] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn, hi :)
[20:22] <Rocket2DMn> hey dhillon-v10 , whats up
[20:22] <mdke> dhillon-v10: happy new year to you. yep, I have a few bugs on my todo list that Rocket2DMn has kindly sorted for me :)
[20:22] <dhillon-v10> mdke, thanks a bunch :)
[20:22] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn, nothing much, how about you
[20:22] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, any ideas on that license bug mdke ?  Is there anything we can actually do about it?
[20:23] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn, how about we just mark it invalid because it a *lot* of work
[20:23] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, just talkin to mdke about some bugs, we have quite a list
[20:23] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn, okay :)
[20:24] <Rocket2DMn> lol dhillon-v10 , i don't think so.  If it's something we decide not to fix, we could close it as Won't Fix, but if we think it is something that could be adjusted to make life easier for translators, we should see what we can do
[20:24] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: I'm posting to the bug and will have a think about it
[20:25] <mdke> maybe David will have some ideas
[20:25] <Rocket2DMn> sounds good mdke
[20:28] <Rocket2DMn> well mdke since you're still here, i'll keeping throwing bugs at you :)
[20:29] <Rocket2DMn> in my email i mentioned bugs open for stable releases (esp. Intrepid)
[20:29] <Rocket2DMn> what would you like to do with those?
[20:29] <Rocket2DMn> we can address them individually of course
[20:33] <mdke> I'm going to have a poke around with this translation item
[20:47] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, on the topic of translations - bug 362871 - does that need to be open against Ubuntu Translations project?
[20:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 362871 in ubuntu-docs "Main Page and Windows Glossary aren't RTL in Arabic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362871
[20:51] <mdke> ok, can't think of anything for the legalnotice one
[20:51]  * mdke gives up
[20:52] <mdke> I wonder if 362871 is a yelp bug
[20:53] <dhillon-v10> mdke, could it be a problem in rendering
[20:54] <mdke> hmm
[21:02] <Rocket2DMn> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573159
[21:02] <ubot4> Gnome bug 573159 in stylesheets "rtl problems rendering tables of contents in yelp" [Blocker,Needinfo]
[21:03] <Rocket2DMn> i'm gonna re-assign the bug to yelp and request the OP to test it in 9.10
[21:06] <shaunm> if somebody could attach a docbook file to an upstream yelp bug, it would help me fix it
[21:06] <Rocket2DMn> shaunm, what bug?
[21:07] <Rocket2DMn> that one i just mentioned?
[21:08] <shaunm> hmm
[21:08] <Rocket2DMn> i dont have any in other languages i dont think
[21:08] <shaunm> this looks like a different rtl issue than that bug
[21:08] <shaunm> there was another bug open about rtl issues, but it was closed recently
[21:08] <shaunm> a new bug would be easiest
[21:09] <Rocket2DMn> shaunm, let's see if the reporter sees the problem in 9.10.  if it's still an issue, we can open a new bug upstream
[21:15] <shaunm> ok
[21:15] <shaunm> I did do a lot of RTL fixes in yelp 2.28
[21:22] <mdke> thanks Rocket2DMn