[00:52] <Venim> hey, anyone know hwo to get a wallpaper stretched across 2 screens?
[02:00] <n0-n4m3> how do you customize the applications menu in xubuntu?
[02:42] <jroc> hey guys
[02:45] <jroc> want command is to see what runs on what levels
[03:15] <Jp82191> hello all
[03:32] <n2diy>  My landlord needs a computer, and I offered to sell him my test box. The test box is my backup box, so I need to clean it up before I sell it. This is a first for me, I have a couple of boxes in the wild, but they were clean installs, how should I prep./clean my test box before letting it loose?
[03:59] <jung_> hallo
[03:59] <jung_> i'm new to xubutu
[03:59] <jung_> i just installed it and i have problem with cd-rom
[04:00] <jung_> it won't detact my cd-rom
[04:00] <jung_> help
[04:41] <oorah> well, i tried out moblin, and hated it
[04:42] <oorah> i felt like i had almost no control of the system lol
[04:42] <oorah> and it doesn't boot up much faster
[05:22] <Balsaq> good morning to all of you who reside here in the land of xubuntu
[05:35] <Balsaq> haluta käsittää itunes kotona lähinnä xubuntu ohjelmoida ilmaista koodikielellä polveutua Suomi!
[05:51] <petsounds> Balsaq, itunes program?
[05:51] <Balsaq> yes it seems to be in great demand
[08:45] <jst> Does anyone know if there's a gadget that can interface with parole (the multimedia player?
[12:33] <FelpsJ> How can I create a shortcut for terminal on my panel?
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> right click on the panel
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> add item
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> launcher
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> command
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> xfce4-terminal
[12:35] <Ov3rf10w> you can select icon for terminal
[15:12] <sim642> would pentium II 450mhz 128mb ram be enough for xubuntu?
[15:17] <Ov3rf10w> hmm...
[15:17] <Ov3rf10w> no
[15:19] <Ov3rf10w> sim642 maybe for linux without X :D
[15:33] <lighta> I need some help to install libpcap and ttfmscorefront librairie from an archive
[15:58] <s_> Hello, in xubuntu is gdm resposible for  the close/minimize bar?
[15:58] <vinnl> s_, no, that's xfwm4
[15:58] <s_> vinnl, thanks!
[16:06] <jarnos> Why is shutdown behind a password in Karmic?
[16:07] <vinnl> Probably has to do with preventing people from shutting down from a remote connection
[16:09] <oorah> i recently installed a distro i didn't like, and the only disc i have is Ubuntu 9.04. I use Xubuntu so what I did was install the disc, upgrade to 9.10, and then removed all gnome packages by the command in this link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce is this just as good as making a Xubuntu 9.10 disc and installing? any cons?
[16:10] <vinnl> oorah, that should be good enough, you might have some stuff left from 9.04 but nothing terrible
[16:10] <oorah> vinnl, oh ok thanks. just didn't feel like making a disc so i just installed 9.04, upgraded, left home and came back, then applied that command
[16:11] <vinnl> Yeah, if you do happen to experience serious issues you might still consider burning another disk, of course, but I strongly don't expect any issues to come up
[16:13] <oorah> what i did, did it upgrade the grub also?
[16:13] <vinnl> No I don't think it did
[16:13] <oorah> how do i update the grub?
[16:14] <vinnl> !grub1
[16:14] <vinnl> !grub2
[16:14] <vinnl> oorah, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Installing%20/%20Upgrading
[16:32] <oorah> vinnl, it says sudo-upgrade-from-grub-legacy command not found
[16:34] <vinnl> oorah, you did do sudo apt-get install grub2?
[16:35] <oorah> vinnl, yes thats the first thing i did
[16:36] <vinnl> oorah, and that installed successfully?
[16:37] <oorah> sudo apt-get install grub2
[16:37] <oorah> Reading package lists... Done
[16:37] <oorah> Building dependency tree
[16:37] <oorah> Reading state information... Done
[16:37] <oorah> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[16:37] <oorah>   libicu40 python-evince python-gtksourceview binutils-static unixodbc
[16:37] <oorah>   python-gnomedesktop odbcinst1debian1 python-gnomeprint libpt2.6.4-plugins
[16:37] <oorah>   python-bugbuddy libpt2.6.4 python-totem-plparser xfce4-power-manager-data
[16:37] <oorah>   python-wnck python-nautilusburn python-gtop
[16:37] <oorah> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[16:37] <oorah> The following extra packages will be installed:
[16:37] <oorah>   grub-pc
[16:37] <oorah> Suggested packages:
[16:37] <vinnl> !paste | oorah
[16:37] <oorah>   desktop-base
[16:37] <oorah> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:37] <oorah>   grub
[16:37] <oorah> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[16:37] <oorah>   grub-pc grub2
[16:37] <oorah> 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:37] <oorah> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:37] <oorah> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[16:37] <oorah> did it?
[16:37] <oorah> well, not a lot of chatter, its not like i was intruding lol
[16:37] <vinnl> A lot of lines, I got ~20 beeps in a row because of that :S
[16:37] <vinnl> Anyway
[16:38] <vinnl> Do you happen to have Synaptic, Update Manager or something like that open?
[16:39] <oorah> vinnl, yes i do
[16:39] <vinnl> You have to close them first, or install grub2 through that :)
[16:40] <oorah> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:40] <oorah> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[16:41] <oorah> vinnl, you get beeps?
[16:41] <vinnl> oorah, yes for every message in the channel. Anyway, have you closed the other package management applications?
[16:41] <oorah> terminal?
[16:42] <oorah> closed it and still says the same thing
[16:44] <vinnl> No Synaptic and whatever
[16:45] <oorah> well, synaptic is open of course, thats how i'm trying to install
[16:45] <vinnl> oorah, oh and Synaptic gives you that error message?
[16:46] <oorah> vinnl, yep
[16:46] <oorah> i think i should just do a fresh install
[16:46] <vinnl> oorah, no
[16:46] <oorah> i had the download goin while i was tryin to figure it out lol
[16:46] <oorah> is there a fix?
[16:46] <jurek_> Hello
[16:46] <vinnl> oorah, you were doing something concerning software installation that crashed, or something. Have you rebooted the computer since the upgrade?
[16:46] <vinnl> !hello | jurek_
[16:47] <jurek_> hello
[16:47] <oorah> vinnl, not since i got the error
[16:47] <jurek_> I got a problem...I cant seem to get my mic working...
[16:47] <oorah> i'll try that brb
[16:47] <vinnl> !microphone
[16:47] <vinnl> !mic
[16:48] <jurek_> in the terminal?
[16:49] <vinnl> No sorry
[16:49] <vinnl> I was trying to see if ubottu knew anything about mics
[16:49] <vinnl> ...because I don't
[16:49] <jurek_> ah
[16:51] <oorah> back it worked thanks
[16:51] <oorah> i didn't know what to put for chain load menu list so i left it blank
[16:52] <oorah> vinnl, it worked thanks
[16:53] <vinnl> oorah, great :)
[16:56] <oorah> might as well make a startup disc with the iso i downloaded. i wonder why unetbootin isn't default? the official one is a lot more buggy
[17:02] <jurek_> ok solved it :-)
[17:08] <dbdii407> Excuse me for asking this question (once again) What's that app that shows the windows borders in xUbuntu?
[17:08] <jurek_> compiz fusion?
[17:08] <dbdii407> Cause it never launched
[17:09] <dbdii407> No. Nothing with effects
[17:09] <dbdii407> It's comes with xfce
[17:09] <jurek_> hmm I dunno
[17:09] <jurek_> maybe in the settings?
[17:10]  * dbdii407 needs his window borders. D:
[17:10] <jurek_> hehe
[17:10] <dbdii407> I made a fresh install of this just now, logged in. No borders. I always have this issue
[17:11] <dbdii407> So now all new windows are stacked upon another in the top left
[17:11] <jurek_> I see I never had that
[17:12] <vinnl> dbdii407, xfwm4 by default
[17:13] <dbdii407> I'll try. I have to close this to check
[17:15] <dbdii407> Yep. That's it. Ty
[17:15] <vinnl> yw :)
[17:19] <dbdii407> Now to add all my regular Freenode channels to xChat
[17:21] <Dracco> Hello everybody. I have basicly 2 problems with my xubuntu, one with sound and other one with dual monitor. Anybody got a moment? ^^
[17:21] <vinnl> !sound
[17:21] <vinnl> Dracco, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting should already help a lot
[17:21] <vinnl> Also:
[17:21] <vinnl> !ask
[17:21] <vinnl> :)
[17:22] <Dracco> uhm ok so:
[17:22] <Dracco> my sound problem is that i hear it, its perfect, music from exaile or vlc plays, got sound in browser, but TS, mangler and cvoicecontrol do not detect sound card
[17:23] <Dracco> dual monitor problem: when i plug additional monitor to my laptop, it just does not detect it
[17:23] <vinnl> Hmm, sounds like you can better ask in their channels
[17:23] <vinnl> !xrandr
[17:23] <Dracco> thanks :)
[17:25] <vinnl> That's all I know about it, though, I only have one screen and no sound problems ;-)
[17:25] <Dracco> going to get no sound problem too :P
[17:25] <vinnl> Haha, I hope so :)
[17:26] <Dracco> ok switching to my ubuntu, cya and once again thanks :)
[18:30] <Xfact> can I take support of xubuntu from Ubuntu because both are much same...
[18:30] <likemindead> Eh?
[18:31] <likemindead> They are similar, but there are many differences between Xfce & GNOME.
[19:10] <charlie-tca> bottom line is yes, you can take support from ubuntu as long it is for non-xfce specific items
[19:42] <Balsaq> Sysi? Sysi? where are you Sysi?
[20:14] <javatexan> anyone using touchfreeze with xubuntu 9.10?
[20:15] <simple_> selam hepinize.
[20:27] <simple_> how can i edit txt files on xubuntu
[20:27] <simple_> Can't open file to write
[20:28] <Ov3rf10w> simple_  with mousepad
[20:28] <simple_> it says that
[20:28] <Ov3rf10w> oh
[20:28] <Sysi> from where you are opening that?
[20:28] <Ov3rf10w> you need to be root for some files
[20:28] <charlie-tca> If it is not in your /home, use Alt+F2, gksu mousepad FILENAME
[20:28] <simple_> nautilus doesnt work on xubuntu ?
[20:29] <Ov3rf10w> xubuntu have thunar
[20:29] <charlie-tca> Nautilus should work, if you install it.
[20:29] <charlie-tca> Nautilus is part of Gnome, which Xubuntu does not use.
[20:30] <simple_> oh i did it thanks
[20:30] <simple_> it works great :)
[20:30] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:30] <simple_> thnks
[20:30] <simple_> i had some sound from the speakers
[20:30] <simple_> "cat - cut - cat"
[20:31] <simple_> i thinks its power save problem
[20:31] <simple_> i changed powersave from 10 to 0
[20:31] <simple_> and it works now
[20:31] <simple_> hmm
[20:32] <simple_> im a newbie on xubuntu
[20:32] <simple_> what must i install after format
[20:32] <simple_> codecs
[20:32] <simple_> ?
[20:32] <charlie-tca> It just takes time to learn
[20:32] <charlie-tca> codecs if you need them.
[20:32] <simple_> yeap
[20:32] <simple_> i cant play mp3 files
[20:32] <simple_> what can i install
[20:35] <charlie-tca> make sure lame is installed
[20:35] <simple_> lame ?
[20:35] <simple_> all ubuntu commans are working on xubuntu ?
[20:35] <charlie-tca> in a terminal, apt-get install lame
[20:35] <simple_> sudo apt- ...
[20:36] <charlie-tca> oh yeah, sudo...
[20:36] <charlie-tca> yes, all ubuntu commands should work
[20:36] <simple_> yeap lame is installing now
[20:36] <simple_> then ?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I don't use mp3
[20:37] <simple_> :)
[20:37] <simple_> thnks for help
[20:37] <charlie-tca> no problem
[20:37] <charlie-tca> hopefully, they will work after lame installs
[20:37] <simple_> but i like xubi :)
[20:38] <Sysi> install xubunru-restricted-extras
[20:38] <Sysi> *xubuntu
[20:39] <simple_> yeap im installing now
[20:40]  * charlie-tca never thinks of xubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:41]  * Ov3rf10w P53uD0-C0D3 tatatatira xD
[21:47] <jung_> i'm new to xubuntu and i eed help...plz..
[21:47] <charlie-tca> !hi | jung
[21:47] <Sysi> what's the matter?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question, all on one line, and anybody that can will try to help you
[21:48] <jung_> i have problem with cd-rom it won't read on xubuntu
[21:48] <Sysi> music, software, video?
[21:49] <jung_> all fo them
[21:49] <jung_> i mean all of them
[21:49] <jung_> i insert cd and  notthing happened
[21:49] <jung_> it read flash drive and floppy but not cd-rom
[21:50] <simple_> i cant install xmms on xfce
[21:50] <simple_> can u help me
[21:51] <charlie-tca> jung_: for music, put the cd in, go to Applications -> Multimedia -> Exaile
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Then on the left side in exaile, choose audio disk
[21:51] <simple_> i want to install xmms2 on xfce
[21:51] <simple_> i asked it
[21:51] <simple_> not "how can i play sounds"
[21:51] <jung_> what about data file???
[21:51] <charlie-tca> click on the big PLUS sign, and it should add the audio files to be played
[21:52] <charlie-tca> for data, go to /media/cdrom0 and look for them
[21:52] <Sysi> filemanager don't show cd?
[21:52] <charlie-tca> If they are not there, you will need to mount the cd
[21:52] <charlie-tca> not always, Sysi
[21:52] <charlie-tca> for some reason, they don't always mount
[21:53] <jung_> i found infomation for sudo command  and try to mount  and  didn't work also my slave drive is  gone after i ran command
[21:53] <Sysi> charlie-tca: but in current case, question for simple_
[21:53] <charlie-tca> simple_: go into Synaptic Package Manager, search for xmms, and install it there
[21:53] <Sysi> it doesn't exist
[21:53] <simple_> there is not
[21:53] <charlie-tca> what command did you give, jung_
[21:53] <Sysi> audacious replaced it
[21:54] <charlie-tca> If xmms is not there, it is not available any longer. Installing it would be futile
 sudo mount /dev/cd-rom /media/cdrom
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[21:55] <charlie-tca> note the no dashes after /dev
[21:56] <charlie-tca> simple, I would use vlc instead
[21:57] <jung_>  so should type in like this sudo mount /dev cdrom media cdrom
[21:57] <charlie-tca> no, just remove the - in cd-rom that you had
[21:57] <charlie-tca> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[21:57] <jung_>  i don't how to to remove
[21:58] <jung_> i stat using this yesterday
[21:58] <jung_> i was using widnow
[21:58] <jung_> xp
[21:58] <charlie-tca> It's okay, you will do fine
[21:58] <jung_> so everyting is new to me
[21:58] <jung_> i iave 2 cd-rom
[21:58] <jung_> is that matter
[21:59] <charlie-tca> you can use "sudo umount /dev/cd-rom /media/cdrom" without the quotes to fix it
[21:59] <charlie-tca> yes, it matters. one should show up as /media/cdrom0 and the other as /media/cdrom1
[22:00] <charlie-tca> We are mounting the master drive.
[22:00] <jung_> i have to prob;em it said  "/media/cdrom: not mounted"
[22:00] <charlie-tca> which command?
[22:00] <charlie-tca> the umount?
[22:00] <jung_> yup
[22:01] <charlie-tca> okay, now do the other one "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[22:01] <charlie-tca> You do have the data disc in the drive, right?
[22:01] <jung_> yup
[22:03] <jung_> do i hsve to wait  ??
[22:03] <charlie-tca> no, if it is done, try to open /media/cdrom0
[22:04] <charlie-tca> sorry, I am running a backtrace now
[22:04] <jung_> messge said "/dev/sr1: unknown device
[22:04] <jung_> "
[22:05] <jung_> and i won't eject
[22:05] <charlie-tca> type eject in the terminal and hit enter
[22:05] <charlie-tca> but it might be reading the disc, too
[22:06] <charlie-tca> Was that message in terminal?
[22:06] <jung_> it open slave cd-rom
[22:06] <jung_> not master
[22:07] <charlie-tca> do you have /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 ?
[22:07] <jung_> cdrom0 and 1
[22:07] <jung_> yes
[22:08] <charlie-tca> in the terminal, type "cd /media/cdrom0" and hit enter
[22:08] <charlie-tca> then type "ls" and hit enter
[22:09] <jung_> i did
[22:09] <charlie-tca> anything?
[22:09] <jung_> notthing
[22:10] <jung_> just blinking on cd-rom one that i insert cd
[22:10] <charlie-tca> type "cd /media/cdrom1" and hit enter
[22:10] <charlie-tca> give it a minute
[22:10] <charlie-tca> If the light is blinking, it is trying to read the cd
[22:11] <jung_> still blinking
[22:11] <charlie-tca> it is still trying then
[22:11] <charlie-tca> wait for the light to quit
[22:12] <jung_> this happened yesterday  i had to reboot  so i can take cd out
[22:12] <charlie-tca> type cd /media and hit enter
[22:12] <jung_> hold on it eject
[22:12] <Ov3rf10w> jung_ you cant't eject cd rom?
[22:12] <charlie-tca> it can't read the cd then
[22:13] <jung_> it just eject t self
[22:13] <charlie-tca> because we told it too way back when you typed 'eject'
[22:13] <jung_> maybe my  master cd-rom is bad
[22:13] <charlie-tca> But it can not read the disc, for some reason
[22:13] <charlie-tca> put it in the other drive, let's find out
[22:14] <jung_> i just insert cd
[22:14] <charlie-tca> okay, is the light blinking?
[22:15] <jung_> light
[22:15] <jung_> and eject again
[22:15] <jung_> it self
[22:15] <charlie-tca> What kind of data cd is that?
[22:16] <jung_> gq
[22:16] <jung_> i got this cd from fry's
[22:16] <jung_> u want me to try differnt cd
[22:16] <charlie-tca> you have recorded it or they did?
[22:23] <jji> i try other disk
[22:23] <jji> it show blank
[22:24] <charlie-tca> it shows the disc is blank?
[22:24] <charlie-tca> What data is this? Is it windows data on the disc?
[22:28] <jji> it was avi file
[22:29] <charlie-tca> and it shows blank on both drives?
[22:29] <jji> yes
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Do you have a Xubuntu cd?
[22:30] <Ov3rf10w> jji what version of xubuntu you have?
[22:31] <charlie-tca> your turn, Ov3rf10w. Maybe a xubuntu cd will show up.
[22:31] <Ov3rf10w> :D
[22:31] <jji> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr1,
[22:31] <jji>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[22:31] <jji>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[22:31] <jji>        dmesg | tail  or so
[22:31] <Ov3rf10w> if use karmic i'm out xD
[22:31] <jji> it's 9.10
[22:31] <Ov3rf10w> bump
[22:31] <charlie-tca> should be the same
[22:32] <Ov3rf10w> i hate 9.10
[22:32] <Sysi> i mostly works on my laptop
[22:32] <Sysi> *it
[22:32] <charlie-tca> Wonder what the file system is?
[22:33] <Carnophage> is ureadahead installed by default in xubuntu 9.10?
[22:33] <charlie-tca> let me look
[22:34] <charlie-tca> I think so
[22:35] <Sysi> !ureadahead
[22:35] <Sysi> bot don't know
[22:36] <charlie-tca> I show it installed from main, it should be default installed
[22:36] <jji> sman
[22:36] <jji> /dev/sr0': No medium found
[22:36] <Carnophage> charlie-tca: thx, just added it to my xubuntu, now it's time to see if it changes anything ;-)
[22:37] <jji> when i tried to mount with (by-path)
[22:37] <charlie-tca> jji: I don't know  why it won't read the discs. /dev/sr0 is not able to read the discs at all
[22:37] <jji> ls /dev
[22:37] <charlie-tca> which drive was that?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> sr0 won't do a direct read.
[22:38] <charlie-tca> Try cdrom or dvd in /dev
[22:40] <Ov3rf10w> i can't figureout what he do with cdrom xD
[22:41] <Ov3rf10w> figure out*
[22:41] <charlie-tca> He has two drives, and they are not reading the avi files on the disc
[22:41] <Ov3rf10w> ok
[22:42] <Carnophage> nice, 20 sec quicker, I wonder why ureadahead wasn't installed while upgrading to 9.10
[22:42] <charlie-tca> but he seems to be trying to read them directly in /dev, and I think that is causing issues
[22:42] <Ov3rf10w> maybe have a bad cd xD
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Carnophage: don't know  why, let me look in a clean install
[22:43] <charlie-tca> mine is a little past that point
[22:44] <Carnophage> charlie-tca: my xubuntu is upgraded since 7.10, and 9.10 was the first one not to install all the software I don't use (default image viewer etc)
[22:44] <jji> solved it
[22:45] <jji> my friend helped me
[22:45] <charlie-tca> did you upgrade after the final came out?
[22:45] <charlie-tca> jji: what was it?
[22:45] <jji> had to guess hte right device in /dev
[22:45] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:45] <jji> cdrom was sr0
[22:45] <jji> partitions were sda1, sda5
[22:45] <jji> thx
[22:45] <charlie-tca> That's different.
[22:47] <charlie-tca> Carnophage: I do show ureadahead installed by default in 9.10
[23:15] <jroc> hey guys
[23:59] <Sysi> np: Aerosmith - Beyond Beautiful
[23:59] <Sysi> olipa hyvä kaakau