Riddelldhillon-v10: do you know anything about security and PHP?00:00
dhillon-v10Riddell, php yes, security depends :)00:00
Riddelldhillon-v10: hmm well launchpad is down so I can't find the details currently00:04
dhillon-v10Riddell, okay :) well edge seems to be fine here and working faster than usual00:06
nixternalRiddell: I have experience developing drupal modules00:10
dhillon-v10nixternal, hi :)00:11
dhillon-v10nixternal, sorry I couldn't finish my docs in due time, just busy with school, will finish by tuesday00:12
RiddellCouloir Slideshow "00:12
ryanakcaI can find you two a link to the source if you want00:12
Riddell"$caption and the JS display of $file name are not escaped, which could lead to XSS when file names are not trusted (fixing this should be trivial, but will likely break the display of offending images, so instead of filtering, I would recommend just dropping from the list any filenames that do not match their escaped text)."00:12
Riddellthat's the feedback we got00:12
dhillon-v10ryanakca, sure :)00:12
ryanakcahttp://blazingwolf.com/drupal/couloir_slideshow.zip and http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/couloir_slideshow-5.x-1.7.tar.gz and the two blurbs00:13
ryanakcathe css and js folders from the zip file need to be copied into the couloir_slideshow folder from the tarball00:13
ryanakcas/and the two blurbs//00:13
nixternalryanakca: why use the couloir one? the regular drupal slideshow is a) pretty good, and most importantly, b) updated00:15
QuintasanRiddell: the upgrade was so flawless I want to cry :)00:16
ryanakcanixternal: Please link00:16
nixternaloh, make go googling will you :p00:16
ryanakcanixternal: We're still on Drupal 5.1300:16
nixternalthat was easy00:16
nixternalslideshow will work with it00:17
nixternalNOTE: The Drupal 5 version will not receive new features. It will however get security fixes if necessary until Drupal 7 is released.00:17
ryanakcanixternal: I don't remember it having a block (if I remember correctly, I last tried a pile of them a while back)00:18
nixternalI would just use a little bit of ajax and create a block for it00:19
ryanakcanixternal: Feel like writing that little bit of ajax? I've never used it00:19
nixternaldo we link to ajax js or mootools at all?00:19
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ryanakcanixternal: we have access to mootools00:20
nixternalhttp://www.google.com/uds/solutions/slideshow/index.html  <- there you go actually00:20
nixternalahh, ok mootools00:20
nixternalis it already linked though in the header?00:20
ryanakcanixternal: At the moment it isn't included (<!--<script type="text/javascript" src="/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/mootools.v1.00.js"></script>--!> in the source), but it is in the theme directory00:20
dhillon-v10nixternal, so I guess you are going to take care of that :)00:21
nixternalnew Slideshow('show', ['1.jpg', '2.jpg', '3.jpg'], { controller: true, hu: 'images/' });00:21
dhillon-v10* the drupal module00:21
nixternalthere is the code for mootools to do a slideshow :)00:21
RiddellQuintasan: please cry onto https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging00:22
Riddellat the bottom00:22
ryanakcanixternal: Awesome. Will it work with v1.00 ?00:22
nixternalI don't know00:23
* ryanakca still has 25 minutes before 4.4 RC finishes downloading00:23
* ryanakca tests00:23
nixternalcan we use at least 1.2?00:23
nixternalwtf are we restricted to old stuff?00:23
ryanakcanixternal: Because each upgrade gets to undergo a long, long, long audit by Canonical's security team.00:24
nixternalmore than likely it will not work00:25
nixternalas it seems 1.0 has no support now for 2 years?00:25
nixternal1.1 is the minimum supposedly00:25
nixternalwhy not just us static HTML then, and do everything with css hacks :p00:25
nixternalryanakca: it seems that ubuntu.com uses yui3 library, I think we should be able to easily use that instead00:27
ryanakcanixternal: the above mootools slideshow is an addon to mootools.00:29
ryanakcanixternal: http://freshcutsd.com/yui-slideshow/00:30
nixternallooks pretty nice00:34
ryanakcanixternal: No licensing on it though :/00:35
JontheEchidnawhee: http://www.kde.org/info/4.3.90.php#binary00:35
* Quintasan hands cookies and vodka to JontheEchidna00:36
JontheEchidnaa bit young for vodka yet ;-)00:37
nixternalI'm not, give it to me :)00:37
Quintasanhell no00:37
nixternalwe can share then?00:37
Quintasanbetter now :P00:37
nixternaljust give me some damn vodka!!! hurry, I am starting to itch :p00:37
nixternalI hate our PPAs00:38
nixternalwhy? because I am confused right now00:38
* Quintasan pours some vodka for nixternal00:38
nixternalwe have KOffice2 in backports with wv2 package which is great00:38
nixternalbad thing is, koffice2 will not work with 4.4*00:38
nixternalso, I am building koffice2 with a dep on the backports ppa for wv2 and the beta backports ppa for libkdcraw800:39
nixternalwtf am I going to put this when it is done?00:39
nixternalbecause in backports, it is 4.3.4 on the kde front00:39
RiddellNightrose, markey: is there an amarok 2.2.2 tar?00:40
NightroseRiddell: yes on ktown00:40
Riddellhmm, I seem to have missed that00:41
RiddellNightrose: when is release due?00:41
Nightrosemonday late evening00:41
JontheEchidnanixternal: obviously we need a new stable-backports-that-need-beta ppa00:41
nixternaldamn, just saw an upload on ktown for koffice 2.1.1, but that isn't getting released until next week according to pkgr00:41
nixternalJontheEchidna: I was thinking similar actually00:42
Riddellnixternal: I never bother with release protocol for koffice, if there's a tar we can upload it00:42
nixternalor ppas based on version00:42
nixternalRiddell: I am going to build it, but I am building it against libkdcraw8 instead of 700:42
nixternalI guess I could always build it in my ppa and then copy it00:42
nixternalor, we can add a koffice2 ppa :p00:44
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nixternalI notice we haven't packaged the translations for koffice2 as well...any reason behind that?00:48
Riddellnixternal: on the todo list along with replacing koffice 1 with 200:50
nixternalahh, ok...i was just looking at the ppa00:50
nixternalgrrr, double grrr00:54
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* ScottK tries to pong _Groo_, but he's not here.01:04
ScottKRiddell: Help! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu1/+build/1438608/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.kdelibs_4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz01:11
RiddellScottK: libtool segfaulting doesn't sound easy to fix01:13
RiddellNCommander: help!01:13
ScottKParticularly since it's kdelibs embedded copy of libtool and not the system one.01:13
* ScottK is glad he saw NCommander re-commit to all of Main building on armel recently.01:14
ScottKRiddell: The good news is that packages that were suddenly FTBFS with the previous revision of kdelibs build with this one.01:15
RiddellKDE 3 kdelibs will move to universe anyway, I'm not sure I'd care much about it01:15
nixternalhrmm, koffice in bzr is a bit nuts...i think with all of the changes that were made, it shouldn't have been left unreleased, or at least unfinished...the current changes don't build anyways, plus they are older than the version in the repos01:24
dhillon-v10nixternal, just finished another doc. for support about to push it01:25
nixternalwishlist: launchpad, get rid of karma please!01:27
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ryanakcaRiddell: Upgrade went smoothly. Should nepomuk recommend virtuoso-{drivers,server} ?01:32
Riddellsoprano probably should01:32
JontheEchidnasoprano-daemon would be the correct package to add such dependencies, imo01:32
nixternalJontheEchidna: I was thinking, maybe a PPA for dependencies like wv2 and such, that doesn't depend on kdelibs or such...that would make it a bit easier01:32
RiddellJontheEchidna: kde-l10n going into kubuntu-ppa/beta now01:33
nixternalthat way there we could have koffice in backports that builds against 4.3.4 and one in experimental that builds against 4.4*01:33
RiddellJontheEchidna: think I can move over the other packages?01:33
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-rc-101:33
ScottKBecause we don't have enough PPAs already?01:34
* nixternal goes to update to rc1...brb01:34
RiddellJontheEchidna: I'm behind the times01:35
ryanakcaAlso, staring strigi indexation from the Nepomuk/Strigi config app (not sure what it is in English, in French: "Rechercher sur le bureau; Configuration du serveur Nepomuk / Strigi") without virtuoso installed caused 15 identical windows saying "Nepomuk Indexing Disabled" to pop up.01:35
JontheEchidnathe nepomuk/akonadi stack is much to verbose in general, imo01:36
RiddellJontheEchidna: that story missed how to add the archive, and there's no context for the "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta" line at the bottom01:36
ryanakca... *and* they refuse to close from a right click the window's entry in the task manager and select close. I have to bring the window up and click OK, repeat with the next one, and on and on and on.01:37
Riddell"kde-l10n-bg_4.3.90-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1.dsc: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in karmic"  darn01:37
JontheEchidnaRiddell: ok, I'll add some more instructions. I modeled it after the beta announcement that never got published, which only gave the ppa url, so I thought that the lack of instructions might have been intentional. Guess it was just incomplete ;-)01:39
ryanakcaWhere should I report bugs? Upstream KDE?01:40
RiddellJontheEchidna: hmm, we should sort our PPA story template to have what it needs01:40
JontheEchidnaryanakca: that's preferrable, yes01:41
RiddellJontheEchidna: it should link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:41
JontheEchidnaOk, updated01:43
txwikingerubuntuone breaks my kde on the mac01:48
Riddellhugs to JontheEchidna for doing RC 101:51
* Riddell snoozes01:51
* JontheEchidna feels hugged :)01:51
=== ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 1 Released! | mesa starting to look fixed on Lucid, so 4.4 RC1 ought to start making progress again shortly. Be careful out there | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01
NCommanderRiddell, *cries*02:02
* NCommander cries hard02:02
txwikingerNCommander: Riddell probably sleeps02:04
NCommanderhe does?02:05
txwikingerIs 2am in Scotland02:06
ScottKMore likely he saw that satellite photo of Great Britain completely white that was on BBC the other day and thought "great time for a canoe".02:06
txwikingerScottK: Put some Huskeys in fornt of the canoe and you have a treat02:06
* txwikinger thinks McNabb needs to run a bit more02:11
macoScottK: nah he was whinging to me the other day that he couldn't canoe because the canal was frozen and couldn't jog because the sidewalks were frozen and couldn't swim because the pools close for the holidays02:12
macothoen again, could be cabogganing...02:12
txwikingerWell.. if the canal is frozen you can skate on it02:13
macodepends how thick the ice is though02:13
txwikingershould be good enough02:13
macoyeah i guess if it was thin he'd just break the ice and canoe like he did last week02:14
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* txwikinger needs to geet some crosscountry skis02:15
* txwikinger wonders where all the snow is... last year we had a lot more snow02:16
txwikingerah I remember in UK and Europe02:16
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JontheEchidnayay, mesa fix built on i38603:11
JontheEchidnapublished too03:13
* daskreech hugs JontheEchidna03:13
* JontheEchidna didn't do anything :)03:13
daskreechI didn't say I hugged you for anything :)03:15
ScottKJontheEchidna: I already started retrying stuff.03:16
=== ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 1 Released! | Nevermind, mesa still broken on Lucid, so 4.4 RC1 stuck. Be careful out there | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01
nixternalScottK: did you break mesa?03:24
ScottKnixternal: I did not.03:24
ScottKOur beloved X maintainers broke it.03:25
nixternalsneaky koffice devs ripped out krita docs, which wasn't in a changelog :)  found that out after upping to a PPA...funny thin is amd64 and lpia built without any problems, but i386 died on the krita docs, but neither amd64 nor lpia built the koffice-doc-html-kde4 package03:25
nixternaltselliot or bryce?03:25
nixternalI need to pick on somebody, and they are both fun to poke fun at03:26
ScottKI didn't assign specific blame, but I think bryce is on a rotation, so I'd pick tseliot.03:26
nixternalit is sad, I think more money is spent on cialis and viagra commercials than what is spent on cancer and aids cures03:28
nixternali just had cialis, viagra, and extenz commercials within the past 30 minutes on tv03:28
nixternalI want to punch that little smiling guy...he gets on my nerves03:28
ScottKnixternal: Survey says tseliot: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/7.6.1~rc3-1ubuntu203:30
daskreechnixternal: I love his wife03:32
dhillon-v10nixternal, lol punch him03:32
* ScottK recalls a conversation his wife had with the eldest daughter recently when she was so upset with someone at school, she said she was going to punch the other girl.03:33
ScottK"Dear, you're 18 now, it's not just a fight, it's assault and battery."03:34
nixternalbah, it's only a misdameanor if the other person presses charges03:37
dhillon-v10ScottK, :)03:37
daskreechAssault is a misdemeanor?03:37
nixternalit is actually simple battery03:38
nixternalunless of course she stomps a mudhole in the other person, then they will go for assault03:38
nixternalwhen I was in school, it was better to fight inside the school instead of going outside...inside you wouldn't be arrested just suspended, outside you would be both arrested and suspended03:39
dhillon-v10nixternal, that's actually smart thinking03:39
nixternalI always found it best to fight on the monday before winter or spring breaks...that way there you got 3 weeks off03:40
daskreechPeople thought in school?03:40
nixternaldid I say though?03:40
nixternalhad me confused for a second03:40
nixternalmy senior year the principle caught on, and made me come to school every day for 8 hours of detention during spring break03:41
JontheEchidnakubuntu-devs don't have the shiny retry buttons for Main packages they can upload to anyways :(04:54
ScottKJontheEchidna: That's a bug then.05:10
ScottKYou should be able to retry any package you can upload.05:10
ScottKJontheEchidna: What package?05:10
JontheEchidnaplasma-addons, for one05:12
JontheEchidnawould that be a soyuz bug or a launchpad bug?05:12
* ScottK looks05:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: I'd guess soyuz.05:13
JontheEchidnabug 505385 if anybody is interested in following it05:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 505385 in soyuz "Can't retry builds for per-package upload-right packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50538505:24
nixternalI have koffice 2.1.1 for karmic in my ppa...I have it build against libdcraw8 which is 4.4 rc1...should I just put it in the beta backports ppa and then repackage it to build against libdcraw7 and put it in the backports ppa?07:13
nixternalwe will have it in 2 locations, but one works with 4.4 and one works with 4.3.407:13
ejat+1 nixternal :)07:17
nixternalJontheEchidna: approve my ppa membership please07:22
nixternalwould be nice if kubuntu-members was a member of ~kubuntu-ppa07:23
nixternalat least kubuntu-devel07:24
nixternalRiddell: if you wake up first, I joined ~kubuntu-ppa but need to be approved. Wouldn't it make sense to at least add ~kubuntu-dev?07:57
MamarokOK, we have a problem here:10:44
MamarokSomebody using Gnome wants to try Amarok 2.2.2 beta without installing KDE 4.4 RC 110:45
Mamarokand since I guess (and hope) you did build Amarok 2.2.2 beta gainst KDE 4.3.x and not KDE 4.4 we have a problem here10:45
Mamarokhow does he get the KDE 4.3.3 or 4.3.4 libs needed by Amarok without pulling in the KDE 4.4. RC 1 versions?10:46
MamarokI assume he needs to download the deb files, right?10:46
tsimpsonadd the repository, install amarok, remove the repository?10:49
Mamarokwell, he needs the libs from KDE 4.3.4, is it for sure not going to install KDE 4.4?10:50
Mamarokmaybe I just didn't have enough coffee yet10:50
Mamarokthe most important question is to know if Amarok 2.2.2 beta is build against KDE 4.3.x, then it should work, right?10:51
tsimpsonif it's built against 4.3.x, then it should work10:51
MamarokOK, will check that, I very much hope so10:52
Mamarokbut as it is in the Beat PPA, I fear the worst10:53
Mamarokwe recommend KDE 4.3.2, and 2.2.1 was build against 4.3.3 already...10:53
tsimpsonyeah, is built requires >= 4:4.3.8010:55
Mamarokwho on earth had this totall stupid idea to build Amarok against KDE 4.4 neta?11:05
Mamarokthis is crazy :(11:05
Mamarokwe depend on Qt 4.5, and please do build Amarok against that, *not* Qt 4.611:06
tsimpsonJonathan Riddell  (2009-12-22) ;)11:06
Mamarokwho is not around today I guess..,11:06
tsimpsonit's probably more to do with that it was built in that PPA, rather than explicitly built against 4.411:07
Mamarokwell, it is just wrong11:08
RiddellMamarok: I'm afraid we only have so many PPAs, people complain and get confused by the number we have anyway11:15
RiddellMamarok: but why shouldn't amarok be build against qt 4.6?  in lucid that's what'll happen11:15
Mamarokwell, Lucid is not out yet, but 2.2.2 final needs to be built against Qt 4.5, there are so many bugs in Qt 4.6 it is pure hell11:17
Mamarokfor Karmic11:17
MamarokRiddell: I don't think Amarok should have been in that PPA for start, currently people are on Karmic11:18
Riddell2.2.2 final will go in the backports PPA (or indeed backports proper) where it'll have qt 4.511:18
Mamarokgood, just to make sure we don't have bug reports galore because of Qt 4.611:18
Mamarokwhich is already hell11:18
Riddellthat is the current version of qt, and KDE will be released with qt 4.6 by the end of the month so that's what is going to be used in a lot of places11:19
Mamarokyeah, unfortunately, we will be drowning in Qt 4.6 related bug reports, rejoice!11:19
MamarokRiddell: sorry for my wording earlier, I was just not happy at all when I found out the 4.6 dependency, it is causing problems all over11:23
Mamarokand by the time Lucid is out we will have Amarok 2.2.3 released anyway11:24
Mamarokoh, and how do people who have installed the beta version go back to Qt 4.5 for 2.2.2 final?11:28
Mamarokreinstalling I guess...11:28
Riddellno easy way to do that11:28
Mamarokwell, there we will have a problem, then, at least good to know the reason for it11:31
Mamarokwhat would be the easiest way to solve that?11:34
Riddellthe kubuntu.org news is pretty clear that they all the betas come together11:35
Riddellapt-get remove libqtcore4; remove beta PPA, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:36
MamarokOK, will prepare a sticky forum post for that, then :)11:37
Mamarokthanks a lot11:37
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neversfeldewhat is the mail with subject "A new settings file for the neversfelde@kubuntu.org mailbox" about?12:30
neversfeldelooks like Spam and my spamassassin does not like it too :)12:30
Riddellneversfelde: probably spam then12:43
neversfeldeRiddell: ok, so there was no change of the mailbox settings. I do not know what happens, when clicking the link, but probably this is a security issue12:47
Riddellit's spam, everyone gets it, quite a lot of it12:54
ryanakcaFor those interested, http://jshaver.com/bin/kubuntu-910-review/12:58
Riddell "Great Job Kubuntu and KDE Teams!" sweet13:45
ryanakcaRiddell: Aye, I linked to it from the reviews and he accepted to be our "User of the Moment" for a while once the sysadmins pull the theme. He also said he was interested in helping out, so I've forwarded him here and to the ML.14:47
macoskype integration with kopete?14:50
* ryanakca shrugs14:50
macosomeone *may* have just given me a reason to switch from pidgin14:50
JontheEchidnaI think it's only skype text chat at the moment14:51
Daskreechmaco: Integration is a strong word14:51
DaskreechIt's awrapper IE you need to have skype installed and running14:51
ryanakcaGoogling shows http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/ ... but it also says that it is no longer being developed because of incompatibility issues14:52
Daskreechbut then you can treat skype as if it's a kopete protocol14:52
macoDaskreech: oh14:52
macoi thought maybe i didnt need to have it running :(14:52
ryanakcaIs anybody else experiencing plasma-desktop with >50% cpu usage since upgrading to RC?14:53
ryanakcaAlso, could someone apply http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/soprano.diff to the soprano package please?15:13
Daskreechmaco: yeah i thought as well but I have grown to quite like it15:55
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JontheEchidnakdebase-workspace needs retried16:14
RiddellJontheEchidna: done16:20
JontheEchidnaugh, mesa still busted16:33
DaskreechWhat's the deal with Mesa?16:40
JontheEchidnaMoved libGl.so to another directory, the linkers can't find it so nothing can link against it16:46
ScottKThe #ubuntu-x people have a solution that requires making changes to every single package that builds against mesa.16:47
ScottKI'ts been suggested they go try again.16:48
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Riddelloh how things have changed, this is what the entire breezy cycle was like16:50
JontheEchidnathat would involve carrying patches for half the packages in the archive16:50
JontheEchidnado not want16:50
DaskreechScottK: oh not as as in rebuilding? as in patching every single codebase?16:53
ScottKDaskreech: Yes.16:53
ScottKLooks like 4.3.90 is a built as it can get until mesa gets sorted (on all archs)17:05
alwhere was libGL moved to?17:10
ryanakcaForgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't a symlink from the old location to the new fix it?17:11
alwas thinking the same17:12
alesp. since it's usualy dpkg-diverted anyways17:12
ScottKal: They are trying to switch to using update-alternatives instead of a dpkg-divert.17:13
ScottK(or something like that)17:13
ScottKThre are a number of possibilities, none of them great.17:13
ScottKWhine in #ubuntu-x for details.17:13
alwell, makes sense, kind of17:13
albut then again i don't switch my video hardware constantly17:13
ScottKWe're just the victim here.17:14
* ScottK doesn't care beyone he wants KDE stuff to build without having to make changes to every singe package in the archive that builds against mesa.17:14
alsince i'm not using *ubuntu atm, i don't care so much ;)17:14
ScottKSo you switched to BSD?17:15
ali noticed a significant difference between my slow kubuntu and the faster gentoo flavor i'm using atm17:15
ScottKI see.17:15
alnope, couldn't be bothered to change the filesystem17:15
alkubuntu used a newer x.org with the new radeon driver that used EXA (sp?) 2d acceleration17:16
alwhere my gentoo's still at the old method (XAA ?)17:16
alanyway, all the rendering work is done by libpixman's pixman_fill_sse2() and libxaa's XAAMoveDWORDS()17:17
ScottKIt's uxa in Karmic17:17
ScottK(I think)17:17
alwhile kubuntu's method caused a lot more mem(cpy|move)s17:18
* ryanakca will pick near instant KDE installs over compiling for a couple of days any day of the week, even if it means a small speed difference when running it. But that's just me :)17:18
alhaven't tried reverting kubuntu's driver version to the old method yet17:18
alryanakca: i'd agree17:19
ScottKIf you come up with something that would be potentially suitable for the archive, please let us know.17:19
albut kubuntu is really *that* slow on this hardware17:19
ali'm still running it on the office machine though17:20
alworks like a charm there17:20
ryanakcaScottK: bangarang is ready to get uploaded to Debian, I'm just waiting for someone to sponsor it. Bangarang 1.0 should be released some time this week I believe.17:21
JontheEchidnaScottK: I noticed you did the last upload to krecipes to fix a ftbfs. Were you planning on merging the latest debian upload?17:23
ScottKJontheEchidna: No.  I'm pretty much off merges right now.  Feel free to grab it.17:29
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JontheEchidnaWhen mesa is finally fixed, I have a kdeplasma-addons upload I'd like to do in lieu of a rebuild17:32
JontheEchidnaoh cool, we can sync krecipes now17:36
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=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
neversfeldeRiddell: I had a look at choqok alpha, seems that there is no way to add new accounts at the moment. I did not talk to upstream yet, but I think we should not use it before this problem is solved, especially for a LTS.18:27
Riddellneversfelde: ok, thanks for looking into that18:42
neversfeldeRiddell: I'll ask upstream, if they get it fixed till April18:42
nixternalneversfelde: are they still working on choqok? I have noticed that development was either stalled or very slow about a month ago...tis the reason I went to twirssi for socializing...fits into irssi quite nice :)18:53
neversfeldenixternal: mtux, the lead developer has to absolve military service, i think it might not be fun in Iran. I noticed some dents about new plugins, but I guess the developement is slow.18:54
DaskreechPlus the time that they stopped ssh out of IRan18:57
nixternalwow, that is crazy, didn't know all of that19:04
Daskreechnixternal: join identi.ca :-P19:04
DaskreechIt's hte new blog :)19:05
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nixternal                                                                                 felipe_20:10
nixternal12:04:11              >>> xerosis_!n=kieran@188-220-85-59.zone11.bethere.co.uk                                                                                                                                                                                          flacoste20:10
nixternal12:05:48              ~   yofel_ is now yofel                                                                                                                                                                                                                           freeflying20:10
yofelmiddle click paste used by mistake?20:15
nixternalI guess so20:15
nixternalsorry about that20:15
nixternalI wasn't even paying attention to yakuake...I was messing around in browsers, so my fingers must have hit something20:15
nixternalthankfully I didn't highlight my pr0n list :p20:16
Daskreechecho fatbottomedgirls >> ~/.secretpasswordbackupfile20:26
DaskreechWhoops middle click paste error :-p20:26
crimsunI bet you have queen songs for all your passphrases20:27
Daskreechone is Iarethechampions20:28
nixternalgood ol' queen :p20:28
nixternalfreddy ftw!20:28
nixternalnobody has been able to sing like that guy20:28
DaskreechDespite PS3 saying otherwise20:30
crimsunI presume it's intentional that ~ubuntu-core-dev is not a member of ~kubuntu-members?20:35
jussi01crimsun: but its a member of ubuntu members, yes?20:37
* jussi01 notes its ~*ubuntu*-core-dev20:37
crimsunjussi01: I'm trying to figure out how to push a bug fix into lp:~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu20:38
ScottKcrimsun: IIRC, we just add someone like you when they ask.20:38
jussi01yeah, thats what I was about to say20:38
jussi01ScottK: meantime you could probably push crimsun's bug fix, no?20:39
ScottKjussi01: So could you.20:40
ScottKcrimsun: If you want  to push a branch somewhere I'll merge it while the bureacracy gets figured out.20:40
crimsunnixternal: hi, is there any reason why kdm.upstart isn't "mostly" synced with its gdm counterpart?20:43
nixternaldunno, haven't looked at it since I created it originally...it has been changed since then by others20:44
ScottKBack later.20:44
jussi01crimsun: actually, if youve the time, it could be good for me to learn how to do this push thing.20:45
* jussi01 hasnt touched such items for a very long time20:46
crimsunsure, one sec20:47
crimsunI'll do the minimal fix first and look more closely at resyncing kdm.upstart later20:47
jussi01ok :)20:47
crimsunjussi01: https://code.launchpad.net/~crimsun/kdebase-workspace/remove_hal_dep_from_kdm_upstart/+merge/1710620:55
crimsunsorry, https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/+merges is probably more appropriate20:56
jussi01looking now20:58
jussi01ok, Im going to have to trust you. :D is there a particular commit message I should put?20:59
crimsunjussi01: I don't know offhand if there is protocol for Kubuntu devs for such21:00
crimsunFWIW, this change was tested by yofel21:01
ScottKUsually I put the debian/changelog entry as the commit message, but that's just me.21:01
jussi01ok, /me is trying to fgure out how to actually do this21:01
crimsunyeah, I use debcommit21:01
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jussi01ScottK: crimsun care to help me here? :D21:02
jussi01Ive added the commit message, what now?21:03
nixternalbzr push that badboy21:03
macoif you put something in debian/changelog then do "debcommit" it fills in your commit message for you21:04
nixternalmaco: ahh good pointer, I didn't know that21:04
nixternalthen again, I just bzr very simplisticly as I am still so used to svn21:04
jussi01ok, I think Im going to have to let someone else sort this as Im probably not set up to do this... Im just looking at the LP webpage.... :/21:05
ScottKOK.  I'll do it.21:06
nixternalNightrose: is there an agenda for the kde-edu meeting this week?21:10
ScottKcrimsun: Merged.  Thank you.21:11
crimsunScottK: thanks/yw21:12
Nightrosenixternal: discussing the results of the survey we did, plan the IRL meeting in switzerland, discuss future video content that could be done, see what new people turn up21:12
Nightroseand then whatever else people come up with21:12
nixternalgroovy, I am going to try and make it...I passed the info on the rest in Edubuntu as well21:15
ulysses__bug 50565322:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 505653 in soprano "make soprano depending on virtuoso-opensource" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50565322:29
ofirkI read that it isn't safe to upgrade to 4,4 RC1 on Lucid but is it safe on Karmic?22:49
Riddellofirk: right22:52
ofirkRiddell: so is it safe or not?22:53
Riddellulysses__: that's waiting on virtuoso getting main inclusion22:53
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ryanakcaofirk: It is safe on Karmic22:55
ofirkryanakca: thanks :)22:56
ulysses__Riddell: so should I care for it, or not? (I think I can make a debdiff for that if it's neccessary)22:56
ryanakcaulysses__: I made one earlier, http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/soprano.diff ... however, that was for virtuoso-drivers/virtuoso-server ...22:58
Riddellulysses__: can't do anything until pitti approves this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtuoso-opensource/+bug/50377422:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 503774 in virtuoso-opensource "main inclusion request for virtuoso" [Undecided,Incomplete]22:59
ulysses__Riddell: ok22:59
nixternalScottK: maybe you can answer this for me, as I am to lazy to really research it right now, and I can't remmeber off hand, but is the archive reorg going to fix issues with us having to MIR this or that, ie. we won't have to have something in main and what not for builds?23:28
nixternalshoot, I sent out a big email and forgot one thing...and now I can't remember that one thing I forgot23:28
Riddellnixternal: no archive reorg has happened and isn't related to main inclusion23:31
claydohnixternal: you forgot the part about cookies and tea for all :)23:36
macocookies and tea?23:36
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claydohmaco: it might bring in more to the party23:37
claydohI'll buy23:37
macoclaydoh: i was wondering where they were :P23:37
claydohI have licorice-spice, lemon-ginger, some green tea of some sort, and  peppermint, but no cookies23:40

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