[02:24] <joshua__> I've a recommendation: make a thing similar to ubuntu-minimal but for use in a chroot enviornment
[02:24] <joshua__> otherwise, do-release-upgrade inside a schroot = bye bye host bootloader
[10:43] <mdke> does anyone know who maintains http://patches.ubuntu.com/?
[11:06] <Laney> mdke: I think it is linked with MoM, so Keybuk
[11:06] <Laney> (is it out of date?)
[13:35] <mdke> Laney: thanks. Not sure if it's out of date but I had a bug report about it that I want to reassign
[14:15] <ScottK> mdke: MoM is currently unmaintained, so that is too.
[14:16] <mdke> ScottK: I see. Well I've reassigned the bug reports anyway and I sent Keybuk an email to confirm
[14:16] <ScottK> OK.  Good luck.
[14:16] <mdke> :)
[16:13] <tweakt> How can I use python-apt (or apt-get) to download udebs?
[16:50] <tweakt> got it...  need main/debian-installer in compontents for sources.list
[17:11] <dotblank> Hello can anyone help me with building PA from apt-get source
[17:11] <dotblank> I need to compile a jack-module-sink module that the official debs do not have
[17:15] <ScottK> dotblank: This isn't a support channel.
[17:16] <dotblank> Oh ok.. sorry I was hoping some of you would have some Ideas.. Also why is there no jack module for pulse in the repos..
[17:25] <cody-somerville> pitti, lp #476530 looks like it should be a backport and not an SRU.
[17:30] <ScottK> dotblank: It's not in the repos because JACK isn't in Main, so pulse can't build-depend on it.
[17:30] <Chipzz> mdke: MoM is unmaintained and KeyBuk doesn't care; I suggest not bringing up the subject unless you want to hear him rant about it
[17:30] <Chipzz> (and that's in no way meant negatively about KeyBuk; he just has too much other work)
[17:31] <ScottK> Chipzz: I don't think he doesn't care.  If he didn't care, you'd get silence, not the rant.
[17:32] <Chipzz> s/doesn't care/doesn't have the time/
[17:33] <Chipzz> same difference, I'ld suggest not bugging him about it
[17:33] <geser> does an easy way exist to see all Ubuntu delta for a package? I used the linked patch on PTS when sponsoring syncs or merges
[17:33] <dotblank> well I figured it all out but maybe there should be a pulseaudio-module-jack not in main.. Its just bothersome to this everytime I want to set up jack... oh well
[17:33] <dotblank> to do this*
[17:34] <ScottK> dotblank: There is some work ongoing to get JACK in Main for Lucid.  Not sure if it will pan out or not.
[17:53] <mdke> Chipzz: well, I'm not too bothered - I've just reassigned bugs from the wrong project to the right one. If the right one isn't maintained, there isn't anything I can do about that
[18:13] <machina> /debian Should I reassign this bug to unclutter or mark it as a wishlist? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384428
[18:14] <machina> Maybe I should reassign it because it's present in many GTK+ apps? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=266118
[18:34] <bsmith093> will lucid and jaunty coexist fine with grub 2
[18:35] <napsy> Hello. What kernel will the upcomming ubuntu have?
[18:35] <bsmith093> has anyone spoken yet bc i only see system astuatu messages
[18:35] <bsmith093> nevermind
[18:35] <micahg> napsy: I think 2.6.32
[18:36] <napsy> hm I've read somewhere that 2.6.33 will be used?
[18:38] <bsmith093> can i dual boot jaunty with lucid and grub2
[18:38] <bsmith093> or will there be problems
[18:39] <sebner> napsy: nah, it'll be .32
[18:39] <napsy> oh ok
[19:48] <kkszysiu> hello
[19:48] <kkszysiu> is possible to specify id using DesktopCouch?
[19:49] <kkszysiu>         r = Record(defaults, id = self.id)
[19:49] <kkszysiu>         record_id = self.database.put_record(r)
[19:49] <kkszysiu> not working :/
[21:09] <lamont> new lucid chroots, btw
[21:12] <ScottK> lamont: Is that why artigas is off the job?
[21:22] <soren> geser: Are you running Lucid? Does your gnupg work for you these days
[21:22] <soren> ?
[21:23] <soren> geser: Er... OpenPGP card, I mean.
[21:27] <lamont> ScottK: nah - that's unrelated
[21:27] <ScottK> OK
[21:28] <lamont> ScottK: yeah - looks like artigas fall down go boom.
[21:28] <lamont> let me go stab it
[21:33] <lamont> ScottK: either artigas is on the way back, or it needs more love than I care to give it on a sunday afternoon
[21:34] <ScottK> Thanks
[21:49] <geser> soren: I don't have yet lucid on my desktop but I could attach my smart card reader to my netbook where I have already lucid and test it.
[22:08] <soren> geser: I just seem to have to kill scdaemon every once in a while, which I've never had to do before.
[22:21] <cjwatson> Chipzz: capitalising it as KeyBuk indicates an unawareness of the source of the nick, so maybe it would be better to use the same capitalisation he uses. :-)
[22:49] <superm1> i'm trying to join this distributed development bandwagon, but when i try to follow the last step from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/UploadingAPackage: bzr: ERROR: Unknown target distribution: lucid
[22:49] <superm1> do you have to be on lucid to be uploading to a lucid branch?
[22:52] <geser> either use "debcommit -r" or the patch from bug #476530
[22:54] <superm1> oh is that all that mark-uploaded does?
[22:55] <superm1> will do that then, thanks
[22:57] <Chipzz> cjwatson: hrrrrm, I thought that was how it was capitalized :)
[22:57] <Chipzz> guess that shows you can't know it all :)
[23:00] <Chipzz> cjwatson: I hope you don't mean this? http://www.earth.li/projectpurple/progs/keybuk.html
[23:00] <Chipzz> :)P
[23:04] <cjwatson> Chipzz: I believe it was the older DOS command rather than that particular program, but yes