[02:14] Hi, I'm having trouble connecting a remote frontend to my backend. the frontend starts, but hangs after seemingly connecting to the DB [02:14] I see "Testing network connectivity to 'htpc00'; New DB connection, total: 1", then things stop [03:56] hello [04:12] hmm, got my earlier problem worked out, but still having problems [04:12] i can start the frontend, but it complains about connecting to the db [04:13] I have the remote hostname set correctly, but in the output, mythcontext is trying to connect to the localhost and fails [04:13] am I supposed to run mythtv-setup on frontends that have no local backend? [04:55] when was the last time channel.conf import worked? [04:55] ripper there is a setup inside the frontend [04:55] you tell it what db to connect ot [04:56] can you connect to the remote db with mysql client? [04:56] from the box your frontend is on [04:56] mysql typically comes only listening on localhost, you have to change the bind address [04:57] cmdln, yes, I've been working through problems. I had configured frontend in the setup page, but now it goes straight to that page whenever I start the frontend [04:58] can you connect with mysql cli? [04:58] working on mysql right now. I can connect local on the backend, but not from the frontend. looking at some web pages right now [04:58] edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf [04:58] yes, I commented out the bind line [04:58] change bind-address from 127.0.0.1 to either the ip of the interface [04:58] or to 0.0.0.0 [04:58] you gotta bind it to something [04:59] 0.0.0.0 is all interfaces [04:59] ok, will change it and give it another try [04:59] yeh change that [04:59] restart mysql [04:59] you should be ok then [04:59] as long as there is no firewall [04:59] ok [05:08] hmm, no luck yet [05:10] did you restart mysql? [05:13] see if you can telnet to 3306 (mysql port) from the frontend [05:14] mysql must be listening on the right interface [05:14] and you have to have a user on mysql with proper permissions to connect from that host [05:17] ok, I did restart mysql, although I see this output: [05:17] * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ] [05:17] * Starting MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ] [05:17] * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables. [05:18] that looks normal [05:18] ah that last line is fine, for some reason I was thinking it indicated it didn't close cleanly [05:18] ok, tried telneting in, get this (which may be normal): [05:18] Trying 192.168.1.11... [05:18] Connected to htpc00. [05:18] Escape character is '^]'. [05:18] = [05:18] 5.1.37-1ubuntu5�]d\$<@leV_X{$;?iu/ [05:18] thats good [05:18] you connected [05:18] now try with mysql client [05:19] ok, so that means mysql is configured correctly? [05:19] well it means mysql is listnedng and accepting connections from the other host [05:19] that dosnt mean its correct [05:19] from the frontedn [05:19] got it [05:19] ok, tried this: [05:19] mysql mythconverg -h htpc00 -u mythtv -p [05:19] Enter password: [05:20] and entered the password: [05:20] 5mRYWsZD [05:20] but I get: [05:20] ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.109' (using password: YES) [05:20] that should match what you see in /etc/mythtv/config.xml on the backend [05:20] the password that is [05:20] ok, let me check that to verify [05:21] ok, yes, that matches [05:21] guessing you dont have proper permissions for the user [05:21] on the db server [05:22] mysql -uroot -pmysqlrootpassword [05:22] grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv@%' identified by '5mRYWsZD'; [05:23] interesting, I was trying the same thing on the actual server [05:23] did it work ? [05:23] this works: mysql mythconverg -u mythtv -p [05:23] sure [05:23] this does not: mysql mythconverg -h htpc00 -u mythtv -p [05:23] ie, if I just do the localhost, it works fine, but I explicitly tell it the hostname/ip it does not [05:24] but your previous comment may be key [05:24] right [05:24] I saw that online, but was dumb and did 'password' rather than plugging in the actual password [05:24] I'll try that [05:24] because you only have a grant that allows access for the mythtv user from localhost [05:24] that grant should fix it [05:24] i think [05:24] not a mysql guru [05:25] sure, I'll give it a shot. understood. thanks for the help [05:25] will be close though [05:28] ok, made progress [05:28] I can connect via mysql cli on both systems [05:28] cool [05:28] mythfrontend starts properly again [05:28] now try the frontend [05:28] however I still get "could not connect to the master backend server -- is it running?" [05:28] let me get the output [05:29] you need to restart mythtv-backend [05:29] on the backend [05:29] ok, will try that [05:29] but in the mythfrontend output, I don't see the failure to connect to the DB, but I see: [05:30] MythContext: Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 1) [05:30] when the backend server should be on 192.168.1.11 [05:31] and in the frontend setup you have the right ip? [05:31] I should, but I'll double-check, just restarted the backend [05:34] hmm, yes, I have the right hostname (with the right ip/hostname translation in /etc/hosts) [05:34] mm [05:34] and I see the frontend output connecting the mysql server correctly [05:34] check /etc/mythv/ [05:34] it just looks like MythContext is configured differently/somewhere else [05:34] mmm [05:36] dunno [05:36] look in /etc/mythtv [05:36] on the frontend [05:36] see if there are any plain txt files that have some config in em [05:36] I checked through those, but they all looked correct. I'll keep digging around [05:37] thanks for helping out with the mysql stuff, that helped a lot [05:37] np [05:37] ripperda, Your backend is configured to run on 127.0.0.1 [05:37] run mythtv-setup on the backend, step 1, general [05:37] both IP addresses on that page must be externally accessible [05:38] (and in the case of a single backend, the same) [05:38] any idea what the best way to migrate channel data is? [05:38] cant import channels.conf, aparently thats busted [05:38] iamlindoro, thanks, looking at it right now [05:38] i tried just moving the channel table [05:38] that didnt work out well [05:38] couldnt tune [05:39] is there information elsewhere that I missed when I grabbed the channel table? [05:39] iamlindoro, do I need to enter the ip number there, or is a hostname valid? [05:39] hostname should be fine ripper [05:39] ripperda, IP address only [05:39] no, hostname is not fine [05:39] oh [05:39] interesting [05:40] oh its the address it binds to [05:40] ok, going with IP address [05:41] iamlindoro: any idea on moving the channel maps? [05:41] awesome, its working now [05:42] I can watch tv via the frontend now (if a little jerky) [05:42] thanks much guys [05:42] ! [05:42] Sorry I don't know about [05:42] cmdln, channel layouts aren't meant to be moved between systems-- the only supported method to do something like that is to backup and restore the database [05:42] channels are cross referenced among about a dozen database tables [05:43] i spent hours mapping that qam data [05:43] theres gotta be a good way [05:43] has the channels.conf import ever worked well? [05:43] I have a script that will generate a channels.conf from the db [05:43] What's wrong with restoring your database? [05:44] mmm [05:44] i guess i can do that [05:55] ok, now a (subjective) config question about dvds/videos [05:55] I've been ripping my dvds to iso images for use around the house by mythtv [05:55] I have a myth-backend, a NAS for the isos, and frontends [05:55] I was going to have the backend physically near the NAS and use storage groups to stream the videos to the frontends [05:56] but storage groups in 22 don't support streaming isos [05:56] so is the "right" thing to do to point all of the frontend filepaths to the NAS location? [05:59] ripperda, for .22, yes [06:00] ripperda, mount the nas to the frontends and point to that [06:00] foxbuntu, ok, thanks. do you have experience with that? how well does that work? [06:01] hmm, I was worried about network latency and pulling the file, but mythvideo should be able to pull parts of the iso as it plays back [06:01] I'll experiment and see how well it works [06:02] humm [06:02] i restored my database to my new backend [06:02] yay the channel map didnt get hosed [06:02] ripperda, it all depends on your network and nas [06:03] but boo, i cant tune [06:03] foxbuntu, understood [06:03] any idea what i might be overlooking? [06:05] cmdln, I assume you restored your DB for a reason other than fun, so I am wondering if your external channel changer script is still in place/tested/working [06:06] Im using an hdhomerun [06:06] cmdln, aright... [06:06] installing the frontend on the backend now to see if it works there [06:07] nop same [06:07] cmdln, usually when the HDHR doesnt tune its a connectivity issue [06:07] i didnt have to do anything special to get the hdhomerun working [06:07] cmdln, try this on the backend: hdhomerun_config discover [06:09] it found it [06:09] cmdln, ok, now try this [06:09] sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart [06:10] ok its restarted [06:10] cmdln, try tuning [06:11] cant from myth [06:11] i get the playback starting screen [06:11] then it hops back [06:11] aright [06:11] cmdln, cat /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log | pastebinit [06:12] provide me that url [06:13] foxbuntu: I have the HDHR config gui on the testing ppa, might help here [06:13] rhpot1991, maybe [06:13] rhpot1991, we' see what the logs have to say first [06:14] ha [06:14] thanks [06:14] just needed to look [06:14] couldnt creat ring buffer, perm issue on the recordings dir [06:14] cmdln, glad to help ;) [06:15] anyone know what the deal will be with the cable card version [06:15] thats supposed to come out sometime [06:15] ie if i have a cable card will the cable card be able to get the virtual channel map updates from the provider? [06:15] cmdln, well they were going to annouce at CES, but I havent heard more than that [06:16] cmdln, it will depend on your provider and how much cablecard support they will provide [06:16] mmm [06:17] cmdln, at this point very few of the cable providers offer/support the cablecard spec [06:18] cmdln, and more importantly the CableCard 2.0 spec [06:20] mmm [06:20] our cable provider usualy impliments stuff fairly fast [06:20] for a small town anyway [06:20] im just ticked they dont provide the qam mappings [06:21] cmdln, many dont [06:21] cmdln, thus Schedules Direct [06:21] schedules direct dosnt give you the qam channels though, just the virtual cable channels right? [06:22] its my understanding the providers will futz with the qam channels and move them around, but leave the virtual channel the same for all the cable boxes [06:22] i just dont think i should have to pay for cable boxes to find my channels [06:22] cmdln, well if th cable provider send the call sign schedules direct will match up in the db with it [06:22] and the one free one they provide dosnt work with HD [06:23] how can I tell if they send the call sign? [06:23] cmdln, I agree and wish I didnt, but there is allot of content that doesnt come on the QAM here [06:23] i didnt see it when i did a manual scan [06:23] cmdln, well somtimes the channel will show "ABCDT" or similar on the QAM [06:24] cmdln, but it will contain the QAM channel number [06:24] mmm [06:24] cmdln, if it doesnt even do that then, no, schedules direct is of no help [06:25] yeh where would the channel "show" that [06:25] when i was making my map i filled in the callsign [06:26] should i see it in the output when i do a hdhomerun_config scan? [06:26] not all of them will but it will be easily visible if the EIT data from the cable provider has it [06:26] cmdln, no [06:26] cmdln, channel scan in MythTV [06:26] er... mythtv-setup [06:28] so i shouldnt have to do anything special? [06:28] nope [06:28] ive seen a checkbox somewhere about eit [06:28] but i dont see it in the scan config [06:28] nope [06:29] just run a full scan on QAM 256 [06:29] mmm i know some people in the head end, maybe i can get them to start broadcasting that [06:29] cause when i did that the first time, i just got numbers for the call sign [06:29] so here is a good one for ya [06:29] yeah...if the callsign isnt there [06:29] i havent done the second tuner yet [06:30] what second tuner? [06:30] im just going to hook it to the same input [06:30] the other tuner in the hdhr [06:30] you dont have to scan both [06:30] thank god [06:30] you only need the data once [06:30] docs online seeemed to make it sound like that [06:30] ah [06:31] cmdln, the HDHR supports multirec as well since .22 [06:31] multirec? [06:31] cmdln, it can tune to multiplexes [06:32] cmdln, the HD signal for QAM/ATSC is broadcast on multiplexes which means several channels may be on the same multiplex [06:32] right [06:32] cmdln, I have my HDHR setup to record 6 channels at a time [06:32] 6? [06:32] yup [06:32] 3 per tuner [06:32] mmmmm [06:33] how [06:33] lol [06:33] you recording all the other programs on that channel? [06:33] or you pick 6 independant [06:33] if you look at the tuner config (I think the last page) it asks how many simultaious recordings this tuner can do, just shove a number in there...it will figure out which channels are on the same multiple [06:33] x [06:34] input groups? [06:34] cmdln, no, most of my local HD channels (ABC/FOX/NBC/ect) on QAM are on like 2 multiplexes [06:35] cmdln, nope, its on the tuner it self [06:35] in mythtv-setup [06:35] damn i need to hit wikipedia [06:35] cmdln: Please watch your language. [06:35] sorry [06:35] heh [06:35] cmdln, hes a bot [06:35] yeah [06:35] cmdln, but yes ; [06:35] :) [06:35] realized right after i appologised to him [06:35] heh [06:36] haha [06:36] so does it matter what you set max recordings to? [06:36] nope [06:36] in theory [06:36] hum [06:37] it will only record based on the multiplexes [06:37] i dont understand what the multiplexes are [06:37] I dont know of any negative results for setting it too high (if there is a too high) [06:38] cmdln, think of them as the next level up of containers for braodcast data [06:38] ok but how do i know what content is broadcast on what multiplex? [06:38] cmdln, the levels are TV Show -> Channels -> Multiplex [06:38] cmdln, you could look it up in the DB, but there is no need to know [06:38] ok and the multiplex is commonly reffered to as the "program id" [06:39] that right? [06:39] no [06:39] oh [06:39] it is a multiplex [06:39] program id is the episode information [06:39] recording date and so one [06:40] so my basic digital tv [06:40] i have qam channels [06:40] like 27.3 [06:40] or 27-3 [06:40] the 3? [06:42] nope its mre specific to the particular episode of a show that is playing [06:43] huh [06:43] ill have to dig around [06:43] right now its too much magic :) [06:44] im just happy to have my mythbox working again [06:44] been down for 2 years [06:44] heh [06:44] died before a move, decided id wait till after the digital switchover to mess again [06:44] boy have i missed it [06:44] this little hdhr is great though [06:45] just being able to use it with vlc is interesting [07:01] cmdln, geez, I would die without my myth at this point [07:01] lol [07:03] so I found that playing back movies works for some, but not others. most likely due to file size [07:03] so playing around with researching how to speed that up [07:04] I had my NAS share mounted via CIFS/SMB, so did a quick, dirty, non-scientific comparison between that and NFS [07:04] just copied multiple mp3/flac files [07:04] NFS is much faster, copies files in a little under half the time [07:05] eg. ~1.8 seconds on SMB for a 8 MB file, vs .77 on NFS [07:05] foxbuntu: yeh the only reason i didnt die is because i would just dl the shows i wanted to watch heh [07:05] a 40 MB file took ~8-10 seconds on SMB, vs 3.7 seconds on NFS [07:06] ripperda, this is known/common NFS is quite a bit faster than SMB [07:07] foxbuntu, I should have known, likely due to lighter-weight transactions w/ no access/security? [07:07] ripperda, thats part of it [09:20] Hallo has anybody got idle detection working with mythbuntu 9.10? [10:57] <]Oscar> !help [10:57] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [10:57] <]Oscar> !help [10:57] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [15:32] hello [15:42] i connected my pc with dvi to hdmi with the tv [15:42] and now the font size is very big [15:42] if i connect it with vga (same resolution) all is okay [15:42] idea? [17:09] hey [17:09] anyone getting a tvdb xml error as of late? [17:14] TVDB API is down [17:14] thus the error [17:14] a fairly common occurence, you just need to wait until it comes back up whenever that happens [17:27] thanks for the suggestion iamlindoro last night, moving the whole db was easy enough, but seems like would be useful to export/import channel lineups [17:28] any hardware recomendations for a frontend thats almost silent and can do HD plus scores high on the WAF [17:37] How do I configure my Hauppage card? [17:46] !frontend | cmdln [17:46] cmdln: Ion Boxes make a great frontend. http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2 [17:55] thanks rhpot1991 [17:55] that does look pretty good [17:55] I had heard that linux couldnt do audio over hdmi, looks like that was either stale or just wrong info [17:58] old info, it can now [18:07] now i just need to find the perfect remote [18:08] dont think they are quite making them [18:08] soon though [18:08] android devices [18:08] like the ipod touch but android based [18:08] so non-directional [18:08] multi room capable [18:09] get a harmony they are good [18:09] ive got one [18:09] need something to receive IR though [18:09] but what i dont like is waiting for the ir [18:10] the macros that turn on the tv and the stereo etc ... [18:10] error prone and slow [18:10] need to be able to control my tv power from the PC [18:10] stereo could just stay on all the time [18:24] cmdln, commandIR is a multi unit IR blaster with decent lirc support [18:25] yeah, the ir blaster dosnt have a high WAF [18:26] cmdln, what do you mean by WAF? [18:26] wife approval factor [18:26] ah [18:26] lol [18:26] heh [18:26] yeah [18:26] why not? [18:27] you can hide them pretty well [18:27] the wire running along somewhere [18:28] poking out [18:28] adhesive to the ir sensor [18:28] meh, tell her where her place is...that will help the WAF [18:28] lmai [18:28] LOL [18:28] lmao* [18:28] * foxbuntu understands WAF all too well [18:29] tvs need to have network capability and be able to be controlled with an api [18:30] i know you can control some tvs over usb [18:31] I can control mine via serial [18:31] even my 60 inch dosnt have serial [18:31] oh well [18:32] still not too bad to use 2 remotes one just to power on the tv [18:32] i like the way my harmony feels [18:32] but its too slow [18:33] id prefer to just use an android device [18:33] over the network [18:33] cmdln: do you have some old harmony or something? [18:33] i suppose [18:33] my 890 kills any other remote combo I've ever touched [18:33] its several years old [18:33] 880 correction [18:33] dont remember the model [18:34] going to hook up mymote soon [18:34] so i can use my iphone [18:34] but im chomping at the bit to get rid of my iphone [18:34] dont get me wrong, best phone ive ever had [18:34] but it just sucks in comparison to android [18:34] drmphone... [18:35] jailbroken its not bad [18:35] but still [18:35] i want an android device [18:35]