[00:00] <Sysi> crap, again this happens
[00:00] <Sysi> (sorry for language)
[00:30] <knome> Sysi, lol. and you also typoed :P
[00:31] <Sysi> i meant to say it like that
[00:33] <knome> :P
[00:33] <knome> reminds me of jussi01 saying things in finnish
[00:33]  * knome hides
[00:38] <jarnos> Question about UI colors in Karmic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8638829#post8638829
[02:35] <subspider> hello everybody
[02:36] <subspider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297676 i tryed these but now my amsn doesn't work
[02:36] <subspider> how can is fix it
[02:36] <subspider> ???
[02:41] <psycho_oreos> run amsn through terminal and see if there's any error messages
[02:42] <psycho_oreos> and you're not being clear, which version is yours
[02:44] <subspider> psycho_oreos, it gives me these error Application initialization failed: Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories:
[02:44] <subspider>     /usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tk8.5 /usr/local/lib/tk8.5 /usr/lib/tk8.5 /usr/local/library
[02:45] <psycho_oreos> which version is your distro
[02:45] <subspider> of xubuntu
[02:45] <subspider> ??
[02:45] <psycho_oreos> of the one you're currently running for amsn
[02:46] <subspider> 0.98.1
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> that's not the distro version
[02:47] <subspider> i tryed to reinstall
[02:47]  * psycho_oreos waits
[02:47] <subspider> ok
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> I'm after the distro version of your currently running linux distro which is the one that you want to run amsn on
[02:47] <psycho_oreos> its a simple question
[02:48] <psycho_oreos> don't confuse the matter
[02:48] <subspider> ok man but i do i know that
[02:48] <subspider> is there a comand for that
[02:49] <psycho_oreos> lsb_release -c
[02:50] <subspider> karmic
[02:50] <psycho_oreos> and you do realise that thread is not for karmic?
[02:51] <subspider> yes i do
[02:51] <subspider> but i want to fix
[02:51] <psycho_oreos> and this is why you borked up your msn
[02:51] <subspider> can you help me
[02:51] <psycho_oreos> amsn
[02:51] <psycho_oreos> maybe
[02:54] <psycho_oreos> this might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315426
[03:10] <subspider> no i can't fix it
[03:11] <craigbass1976> How do I shut sounds off in xubuntu?  Not all sound, just some event sounds.  I can't find anything.
[03:24] <subspider> can someone help me please
[03:24] <craigbass1976> what od you need?
[03:24] <subspider> amsn is broken how can i fix it
[03:25] <craigbass1976> What broke?
[03:27] <subspider> amsn the program you know what is that
[03:27] <subspider> ??
[03:27] <subspider> it's broken
[03:28] <subspider> i want to fix dependencies and install the program
[03:28] <craigbass1976> Did it ever work?  How did you install it in the first place?
[03:30] <subspider> synaptic
[03:30] <subspider> but i tryed to make these
[03:30] <subspider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297676
[03:30] <subspider> and it broken my amsn
[03:39] <craigbass1976> I've never tried what's on that post.  I can't help.
[03:56] <subspider> i know how to mage i solved it
[03:56] <subspider> hehehe
[03:56] <subspider> it's easy
[03:56] <subspider> lol
[03:56] <subspider> i will make topic on my blog
[03:56] <subspider> hehehe
[04:02] <steven__> hello.  i am running xubuntu and i am having a hard time installing flash player
[04:03] <subspider> it's simple
[04:03] <steven__> go ahead listenting
[04:03] <subspider> steven__, wait
[04:03] <steven__> ok
[04:03] <steven__> i am using a imac 600 mhz G3
[04:03] <steven__> crt model
[04:05] <subspider> ok no problem
[04:06] <steven__> still here
[04:06] <subspider> steven__, press alt +f2
[04:06] <steven__> now?
[04:06] <subspider> steven__, type console
[04:07] <steven__> ok
[04:07] <subspider> presse enter
[04:07] <steven__> ok
[04:07] <subspider> then  in console type : sudo apt-get install flashpulgin-installer
[04:08] <steven__> ok.. old on i will try
[04:08] <steven__> hold on
[04:08] <subspider> ok
[04:08] <subspider> i' here
[04:09] <steven__>  sudo apt-get install flashpulgin-installer
[04:10] <steven__> it said it couldn't find package flashplugin-installer
[04:10] <steven__> i couldn't open console. i had to open a terminal
[04:10] <subspider> ok ok
[04:10] <subspider> wait
[04:11] <steven__> ok thanks
[04:12] <steven__> The command "console" failed to run:
[04:12] <steven__> thats what i got when i hit alt and f2
[04:12] <steven__> and then typed console
[04:12] <steven__> Failed to execute child process "console" (No such file or directory)
[04:13] <steven__> but there is a box for run in terminal
[04:13] <steven__> i hit that and a terminal opened
[04:14] <subspider> press alt +f2
[04:14] <steven__> ok
[04:14] <subspider> type synaptic
[04:14] <steven__> it says starting w/o administrative privilges
[04:15] <subspider> ok
[04:15] <steven__> ok it is open
[04:15] <subspider> then try to search
[04:15] <subspider> for
[04:15] <subspider> flashplugin-installer
[04:15] <steven__> ok hold on
[04:15] <subspider> instal the one that is free ok
[04:15] <subspider> thats all
[04:17] <steven__> there is no flashplugin-installer on this xbuntu. i know they have it on ubuntu
[04:18] <subspider> i have xubuntu
[04:18] <subspider> and i have it
[04:18] <subspider> what is your version
[04:18] <steven__> you found flashplugin-installer in the synaptic package manager?
[04:19] <subspider> type these in console lsb_release -c
[04:19] <subspider> yes i did
[04:19] <steven__> console doesn't open.. terminal does though
[04:20] <subspider> in terminal type lsb_release -c
[04:21] <subspider> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-flash-player-10.html
[04:21] <subspider> try that
[04:22] <subspider> i have mine olling with that
[04:22] <subspider> steven__,
[04:24] <subspider> steven__, sorry you right
[04:24] <subspider> it's not on yours
[04:24] <subspider> do these
[04:24] <subspider> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/flash_firefox_linux.html
[04:24] <subspider> ok
[04:24] <subspider> and you will get it it's really easy
[04:26] <sparvin> Hello, everybody.
[04:27] <sparvin> I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to allow me to pick at their brains for a little bit?
[04:29] <steven__> back. i have  2 year old running around..
[04:29] <steven__> is erolupin a link?
[04:31] <EroLupin> am i a link?
[04:33] <EroLupin> When my son types on our laptop, he constantly hits the touchpad...
[04:34] <EroLupin> I tried downloading gsynaptics, but it gives me some error.
[04:34] <EroLupin> any suggestions?
[04:41] <sparvin> I'm trying to install 9.10 alongside windoze as a test.  The install inside windoze took over an hour (it was stuck mostly on "making virtual disks").  It got past that, and during the reboot, it seems to be hanging on the "Completing the Ubuntu installation." screen.
[04:42] <sparvin> This is an ancient hard drive, so if that's the problem, I'm more than willing to ditch it.
[05:32] <Balsaq> hello
[07:02] <pteague> no cups-pdf in koala?
[07:52] <Daughain> Can anyone tell me where I might find a install resource I can use for a sstem w/o removable ,media?
[07:53] <_Pete_> see this
[07:53] <_Pete_> !usb
[08:06] <Daughain> I thought I mentioned NO removable media.
[08:07] <nigel_nb> Daughain, network install?
[08:07] <Daughain> Nope, screwed up XP install wont connect with mylinux network. I can manage inet, and thats it.=(
[08:08] <Daughain> NOt even sure I have a man option on the mobo, for that matter.
[08:08] <Daughain> man==lan
[09:11] <gnomad> hello
[09:12] <gnomad> i just installed xub and am having trouble booting dual booting with xp. when i select xp from the  list all i get is: GRUB_ .. does anyone know of a fix? ive never had trouble with grub legacy / other distros...
[09:13] <gnomad> hrm
[09:13] <hatake_kakashi> gnomad, ouyes from the other channel typed out some pointers
[09:13] <gnomad> thanks
[12:56] <faheem_> Hello i'm using xubuntu but having a problem concerning screen size, i cant seem to see the bottom panel im thinking the screen resolution is perhaps too high can anyone help me
[13:12] <z0man> Hey Xubuntu ppl, I have been using Xubuntu on my nice slow laptop and I have bumped into a problem with Konversation.
[13:12] <z0man> sorry Konquorer
[13:12] <z0man> Automatic thought typin
[13:12] <z0man> anyway... The FTP system on Konqueror works in Ubuntu but not in Xubuntu
[13:12] <z0man> Any help much appreciated :)
[13:13] <lukinfore> there is an option to start some kde jobs
[13:13] <lukinfore> mb it could help
[13:13] <z0man> Hmmm
[13:14] <z0man> When you install Konqueror and Konversation.... There is settings... Can't be a passive thing
[13:14] <lukinfore> no
[13:14] <lukinfore> xfce option
[13:14] <z0man> It has permission denied for my FTP access see.
[13:15] <z0man> ah
[13:15]  * z0man looks in xfce options
[13:15] <lukinfore> sesssions & startup
[13:15] <lukinfore>  //additionsl
[13:15] <lukinfore> if right translated
[13:15] <z0man> Ahh I see this ....
[13:16] <z0man> "Launch KDE Services on startup
[13:16] <lukinfore> yep
[13:16] <z0man> for compatibility
[13:16] <z0man> should i tick that?
[13:16] <lukinfore> u can try
[13:16] <lukinfore> then restart session
[13:16] <z0man> By gully I think I will :)
[13:16]  * z0man pats Lukinfore on the back
[13:16] <lukinfore> np
[13:17] <crow> Hi, i have POV ION-330-1 board and when i boot kernel .31; 32 i always get this in dmesg/syslog http://paste.debian.net/56206/ , in .32 which i use is patch from here included http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=16058 any suggestion on this
[13:17] <z0man> i r will blog this :)
[13:18] <z0man> err is restarting xfce similar to gdm?
[13:19] <z0man> think ill just restart :)
[13:22] <z0man> oooo
[13:23] <z0man> I'll love u lukinfore if this works
[13:23] <lukinfore> does it?
[13:23] <lukinfore> love is too much
[13:24] <z0man> i love u lukinfore ^^
[13:24] <z0man> I have this problem for like days
[13:24] <z0man> and thought KDE just naturally worked like in Gnome
[13:25] <z0man> And you resolved this issue in seconds!
[13:25] <z0man> thank you sooo soo much {{{{{lukinfore}}}}}
[13:25] <z0man> Now I can do my web development at my parents house... on this relic IBM thinkpad
[13:26]  * lukinfore glad to be helpful
[13:26] <z0man> think ill put a mental note in my blog to concrete this new found setting
[13:36] <faheem_> Hello i'm using xubuntu but having a problem concerning screen size, i cant seem to see the bottom panel im thinking the screen resolution is perhaps too high can anyone help me
[13:37] <vinnl> faheem_, have you tried the buttons on your monitor?
[13:37] <faheem_> its a lapop...
[13:37] <faheem_> ancient...
[13:37] <faheem_> no buttons on the monitor lol
[13:37] <vinnl> Well, have you tried the buttons on the laptop?
[13:37] <vinnl> That edit the display settings?
[13:37] <faheem_> yeah i have...
[13:38] <faheem_> not really helping
[13:38] <faheem_> im wondering if theirs a way
[13:38] <faheem_> to edit the resolution
[13:38] <vinnl> Yes, but that isn't the problem I think
[13:38] <vinnl> If there is a bottom panel it should be at the bottom of your screen regardless of resolution
[13:39] <vinnl> Have you tried adding a new panel and moving it to the bottom?
[13:39] <faheem_> i dont see the right end of the top panel either :)
[13:39] <faheem_> so i can only guess
[13:39] <vinnl> Hmm :S
[13:39] <faheem_> that the screen settings is to big to see the bottom and left end
[13:39] <faheem_> lol
[13:39] <vinnl> Ah
[13:39] <vinnl> I believe you have to go to Applications->Settings->Display
[13:40] <faheem_> i dont see any display option
[13:40] <vinnl> Hmm, and if you open the Settings Manager?
[13:40] <faheem_> closest thing to it is settings manager
[13:40] <vinnl> Open that and click Display there
[13:41] <faheem_> ok...
[13:41] <faheem_> it only has gamma correction
[13:41] <faheem_> i've been here before..
[13:41] <faheem_> and a check box stating "sync sliders"
[13:41] <faheem_> under resoluton
[13:41] <vinnl> Which version of Xubuntu are you using?
[13:42] <faheem_> it has the option default
[13:42] <faheem_> not sure..
[13:42] <faheem_> Xfce 4
[13:42] <faheem_> is all i can figure lol
[13:42] <vinnl> You can check under Applications->System->System Monitor
[13:43] <vinnl> And then the System tab
[13:43] <faheem_> ok
[13:43] <faheem_> wait a sec
[13:43] <vinnl> There you should see Release x.xx (<codename>)
[13:44] <faheem_> no systems tab...
[13:44] <faheem_> only a process able
[13:44] <faheem_> table
[13:44] <vinnl> On top of the window
[13:44] <faheem_> and sensor load
[13:44] <vinnl> Oh, hmm
[13:44] <vinnl> Could you open Applications->Accessories->Terminal then?
[13:44] <faheem_> sorry im making this hard
[13:45] <faheem_> yeah i can do that :)
[13:45] <vinnl> I suspect you're running a very old release
[13:45] <faheem_> shit...
[13:45] <faheem_> ok terminal is open
[13:46] <vinnl> OK, can you type "lsb_release -a"?
[13:46] <vinnl> Then press Enter and tell us what it says after Release
[13:46] <faheem_> No LSB modules are available.
[13:46] <faheem_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[13:46] <faheem_> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
[13:46] <faheem_> Release:	8.04
[13:46] <faheem_> Codename:	hardy
[13:46] <vinnl> Hmm OK
[13:47] <vinnl> And did you do something special before half the screen disappeared?
[13:47] <faheem_> no.. its been like this since installation :)
[13:47] <faheem_> im running it on a.. old laptop
[13:47] <vinnl> When did you install it?
[13:47] <faheem_> ab 2 weeks back
[13:48] <vinnl> Hmm, OK
[13:48] <faheem_> but i figured i could fnd a way to fix it
[13:48] <faheem_> been tougher than i thought
[13:48] <faheem_> lol
[13:48] <vinnl> Yeah I suppose it could be fixed, it's just that someone needs to drop by that knows how to ;-)
[13:48] <vinnl> !xorg
[13:48] <faheem_> yeah.. xorg.conf
[13:48] <vinnl> faheem_, OK, perhaps you can check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[13:48] <faheem_> i have been reading alot abt it
[13:49] <faheem_> ok thanks :)
[13:49] <faheem_> u been a great help
[13:49] <vinnl> Oh, and what also could help is trying Applications->System->Hardware Drivers (or Restricted Drivers)
[13:50] <faheem_> dont think so.. i dont have a graphics card or anythiing of the sort on something this old lol
[13:51] <vinnl> There probably is some sort of graphics card in there, and the chance is big that there are better vendor drivers
[13:51] <vinnl> Never hurts to try ;-)
[13:53] <faheem_> true...
[13:54] <faheem__> sorry dc vinnl
[13:56] <faheem__> !xorg
[14:29] <garythi> sure is quiet in here...69 people too...8-)
[14:38] <Sysi> xubuntu don't have problems :)
[15:17] <TheSheep> I actually have some, but I don't think anybody will be able to help.
[15:19] <vinnl> Sucks :S
[15:19] <Ov3rf10w> xD
[15:21] <TheSheep> for example this one: after waking up from suspend my laptop (with an intel graphics card) often doesn't turn the backlight on, and the brightness keys of course don't work since karmic, so I have to suspend it again and wake up again until I hit it
[15:21] <TheSheep> any takers? :)
[15:22] <vinnl> Damn, nope, no laptop ;-)
[15:22] <TheSheep> I knew it.
[15:32] <garythi> tried many distros lately, and i wanted to mention how much i like this one! (been using it exclusively for a week now) maybe this is finally the end of windows for me :)
[15:34] <_Pete_> garythi: so what was the final nail for that decicion?
[15:35] <vinnl> Nice :)
[15:35] <garythi> fed up with microsoft
[15:36] <garythi> feels so much freer here
[15:37] <TheSheep> nope, you will still be fed up with intel, nvidia, adobe and sun
[15:37] <TheSheep> their software is horrible and you are pretty much forced to use it
[15:37] <Sysi> intel used to work :/
[15:38] <TheSheep> new kernel, new problems
[15:38] <TheSheep> that's how it works with binary blobs
[15:38] <garythi> also the new win7 explorer.exe was crashing on right clicks....got tired of being their beta tester (without my permission)
[15:39] <TheSheep> better be our beta tester *with* your permission ;)
[15:39] <garythi> yes!
[15:40] <Sysi> better when they actually fix bugs
[15:40] <TheSheep> speaking of which, if you use chromium, don't update today
[15:40] <vinnl> TheSheep, oops I just did, why?
[15:40] <TheSheep> vinnl: takes 100% cpu for a couple of seconds each time you open a new tab
[15:41] <TheSheep> vinnl: but maybe it's again my intel driver...
[15:41]  * vinnl is trying it out
[15:42] <TheSheep> I feel so tired, each time I upgrade I tell myself that it's the last time, and each time I finally break my word and regret
[15:42] <vinnl> It only start a bit slow for me, but new tabs are working fine :)
[15:42] <vinnl> Haha :P
[15:43] <TheSheep> plus, they broke my laptop's sound during warranty repair of the lcd...
[15:44] <TheSheep> I can send it for repair again, but that means weeks without a computer
[15:44] <TheSheep> life sucks
[15:44] <vinnl> :P
[15:45] <vinnl> Could be worse
[15:45] <TheSheep> plus, I looked at sony vaio p, and it looks so cool, but of course the hardware is not supported on linux
[15:45] <TheSheep> stupid intel again
[15:45] <Sysi> you talked about nolife earlier :P
[15:48] <TheSheep> I don't know what I'ddo if I had to deal with microsoft on top of that
[15:50] <_Pete_> I think where $soft is needed is for games
[15:50] <_Pete_> that is sad true
[15:50] <TheSheep> _Pete_: bullshit, consoles are much better for that
[15:50] <TheSheep> _Pete_: and console emulators on linux :3
[15:50] <_Pete_> no they arent
[15:50] <_Pete_> for everygame
[15:50] <garythi> gaming on linux is getting better though...slowly
[15:50] <TheSheep> I don't play every game
[15:51] <_Pete_> fact is that for PC(windows) new more powerfull hw is coming up allthe time
[15:51] <_Pete_> consoles are stick to that what they had when launched
[15:51] <TheSheep> and how is that related to the fun you get from playing a game?
[15:52] <_Pete_> not to mention playing FPS game with pasd
[15:52] <_Pete_> gamepad
[15:52] <TheSheep> console games are designed for their particular hardware, never too slow
[15:52] <_Pete_> yes and for cost
[15:52] <TheSheep> leave fps for teenagers
[15:52] <_Pete_> I do not
[15:52] <TheSheep> do
[15:53] <_Pete_> no I leave it for my linux
[15:53]  * TheSheep shrugs and goes to play rogue
[15:53] <Sysi> i'm teenager
[15:53] <Sysi> i don't play anything
[15:54] <_Pete_> then you are gay or nerd or both
[15:54] <TheSheep> freak
[15:54] <TheSheep> :P
[15:54] <_Pete_> ... stupid "joke"
[15:54] <vinnl> TheSheep has never been a teenager, he was born a grownup ;-)
[15:55] <Sysi> or he never grow up :D
[15:55] <TheSheep> grew
[15:56] <_Pete_> TheSheep: but even with ps3/xbox they are getting trouble getting games work flawlessly in fullhd
[15:56] <_Pete_> which highend pc's do very easily
[15:56] <TheSheep> _Pete_: dunno, I'm a nintendo fanboy :)
[15:57] <_Pete_> then you like supertux2 ?
[15:58] <_Pete_> which is excellent copy of mario
[15:58] <_Pete_> which is good copy of giana sisters
[15:58] <TheSheep> never tried it, but I like the giana sisters ds
[15:58] <_Pete_> ds?
[16:00] <_Pete_> but for top end pc gaming you need like this: http://www.jimmspc.fi/tuote/JIMM-PG-295%2BNV3D
[16:00] <_Pete_> or something better
[16:01] <TheSheep> I never play the top games, I always wait 3 or 4 ears, they are still as fun as they were, but cost almost nothing and run on every hardware available
[16:01] <TheSheep> years*
[17:01] <pteague> anybody know why i might be having issues with certain buttons in eclipse? i'm wondering if i'm missing a gtk &/or java library...  i was stupid & updated to koala & the latest eclipse without bothering to test something that was working first
[17:02] <vinnl> What issues do you have?
[17:03] <Ov3rf10w> [18:01:38] <pteague> anybody know why i might be having issues with certain buttons in eclipse?
[17:04] <vinnl> Yeah, so...What issues?
[17:05] <Ov3rf10w> pteague: ?
[17:05] <Ov3rf10w> xD
[17:05] <pteague> clicking certain buttons in certain popup windows it ends up not completely registering the click
[17:05] <vinnl> Consistently?
[17:05] <vinnl> And only in Eclipse?
[17:06] <pteague> i.e. it does the button down, but doesn't register the button up & so therefore doesn't allow me to actually click the button
[17:07] <pteague> yeah, i noticed it when trying to install some packages... i clicked the next button & waited & nothing... kept clicking it & even tried to right click on it
[17:07] <vinnl> If it's only in Eclipse then it's probably an Eclipse bug (also try other Java applications if you have them). I'd report it by running "ubuntu-bug eclipse"
[17:07] <pteague> it consistently happens on the install new software popup window & the new project wizard popup windows so far
[17:08] <pteague> ah, found libswt-gtk-3.5-java ... let me see if that helps
[17:10] <pteague> heh, nope... doesn't seem to help... ok, i wasn't sure if this might be an issue with koala... i'll check #eclipse & see if anybody else has run into the same issue
[17:24] <sparvin> Hello, is anyone around today?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[17:26] <sparvin> 2 reasons.  First, I did that last night and got no answer, and second, I thought that might've been rude.
[17:26] <TheSheep> no worries
[17:26] <TheSheep> and you probably got no answer because you stayed too short
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Sometimes no one has an anwser, too
[17:27] <TheSheep> yeah, existential questions are tricky
[17:28] <vinnl> Speaking of which, does anyone know the answer to life, the universe and everything?
[17:28] <sparvin> I thought of those.  I hung around for at least a half hour, I think.  I'm a newbie to Linux, but not to IRC.  :)
[17:28] <TheSheep> vinnl: 42
[17:28] <sparvin> 42
[17:28] <vinnl> See, even existential questions are not that difficult ;-)
[17:29] <sparvin> Cool.
[17:29]  * TheSheep falls asleep
[17:30] <vinnl> Anyway, what is your question? ;-)
[17:30] <TheSheep> give him some time
[17:30] <sparvin> Ok, so, I'm trying to install xubuntu next to windoze, and it takes about an hour to complete.  Is that normal?
[17:30] <TheSheep> if it has to resize the windows partition, it can take even more
[17:31] <sparvin> I was installing in windoze.  It hung on "Creating virtual disks".
[17:32] <vinnl> I'm off, later
[17:32] <TheSheep> you used wubi?
[17:32] <sparvin> My hope was to get into xubuntu and resize the partition with gparted, then install from there.
[17:33] <sparvin> Yes, I used wubi.
[17:33] <TheSheep> you can run gparted from a livecd, btw
[17:33] <sparvin> Oddly enough, my daughter's favorite blanket is named "wubi".
[17:33] <TheSheep> no experience with wubi on my part, sorry
[17:34] <charlie-tca> wubi installs inside windows, so it has to resize to install xubuntu
[17:34] <sparvin> I tried to use the livecd, but that didn't work, so I tried wubi.
[17:34] <TheSheep> charlie-tca: as far as I know it just creates a file in the windows filesystem and treats it as a virtual disk
[17:34] <charlie-tca> Wubi should make xubuntu a windows program, more or less. It should be in Add/Remove programs so you can remove it there
[17:34] <TheSheep> !doesn't work
[17:35] <LetsGo67> How do I watch TV using my TV Tuner Card in Ubuntu?
[17:35] <charlie-tca> mythtv
[17:35] <charlie-tca> !mythtv
[17:35] <LetsGo67> charlie-tca then what?
[17:35] <TheSheep> !tv|letsgo67
[17:35] <charlie-tca> I would click the help links, and see
[17:36] <charlie-tca> Then I would try For discussion and specific support, try #ubuntu-mythtv
[17:36] <charlie-tca> where they know about such things
[17:36] <LetsGo67> Using S-Video?
[17:36] <sparvin> Well, it does tend to sit on my desk all day.
[17:38] <sparvin> First attempt at using livecd on another machine turned off the monitor then locked up after the initial screen asking if I wanted to run livecd or install from cd.
[17:38] <TheSheep> ouch
[17:40] <sparvin> 2nd attempt from this particular machine gave a similar respopnse.  I reburned the cd and windfoze wouldn't recognize the newly burned disk, so I downloaded again and reburned.  Windozw regignizes the disk and can run wubi, but when I reboot with cd in the drive, it goes str8 to windoze.
[17:41] <TheSheep> the cd has an option for checking it for defects
[17:41] <sparvin> Ok, so if I can get it to boot, I can have it check itself before livecd or installing?
[17:41] <TheSheep> you can also check the downloaded image
[17:41] <TheSheep> !md5
[17:42] <LetsGo67> Thanks.
[17:42] <sparvin> Ok, thank you.
[17:42] <TheSheep> also, make sure you have booting from cd enabled in bios
[17:42] <TheSheep> but you probably know that
[17:44] <sparvin> The next step I was thinking would be to use another livecd (Puppy and Knoppix work fine), use gparted, and then install from livecd.  Does that sound plausible?
[17:44] <TheSheep> you still need to boot the livecd to install from it
[17:44] <sparvin> Yes, I do know that, and have it set, but it's always a good idea to bring that up (especially for me).
[17:45] <sparvin> Yes.  I got that screen up before, so I'
[17:45] <sparvin> m fairly confident I can get there again (eventually)
[17:47] <TheSheep> if you get the livecd to run the installer, it runs gparted as one of its steps, I think you can resize there
[17:48] <sparvin> Cool.  I did not know that.
[17:49] <TheSheep> do make a backup of important data before that
[17:50] <charlie-tca> Could download the alternate cd and use it, too
[17:50] <charlie-tca> but I don't know what that does with windows
[17:50] <sparvin> Already done.  :)  Nothing left on there I can't replace.
[17:51] <TheSheep> charlie-tca: I don't think the alternate cd can resize ntfs partitions
[17:51] <charlie-tca> I don't know, myself
[17:51] <sparvin> Only thing left is that I seem to have ran out of blank cd's.
[17:58] <sparvin> Thank you for the help.  I will keep plugging away.
[18:26] <sparvin> Ok, I got it to boot from cd.  It locks when I try to run livecd and when I try to get it to check itself (md5 did check out).  So, I think I can assume that I've got some piece of hardware that it doesn't like.
[18:27] <cody-somerville> no
[18:28] <cody-somerville> or maybe
[18:28] <cody-somerville> you say all the md5sums do match?
[18:28] <sparvin> Maybe sounds better.
[18:28] <sparvin> Yes.
[18:36] <shamimzaki> Hi, I have installed xfce using "aptitude install xfce4 xfc4-goodies" on a command line xubuntu installation. icons are missing on menus and taskbar. any help ?
[18:37] <cody-somerville> you probably need tango icons
[18:40] <shamimzaki> cody-somerville: let me try
[19:24] <steven__> hi out there.. does anyone know how to increase the colors.  right now it is very low.. i am on xubuntu
[19:25] <steven__> <running xubuntu on a iMac 600 mhz, G3, Crt.. I installed but the colors need to be increased
[19:36] <steven__> right now i have 256 colors.. how do u increase it on xubuntu
[19:38] <sparvin> I tried using the livecd with a boot parameter of BOOT_DEBUG=2, and still all I have is a flashing cursor.  I also tried it with fb=false.  Does anyone have any other suggestions, please?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> before starting, hit F4 and choose safe graphics mode
[19:40] <sparvin> I did that before with the same reults.
[19:41] <sparvin> *results
[19:43] <sparvin> No, wait, I just got something.
[19:44] <sparvin> I removed "quiet" and replaced that with "BOOT_DEBUG=2 fb=false" and it looks like I have something to work with.
[19:46] <becker_11> 2 questions if I may 1st I've just switched to xubuntu and I'm missing the windoze screen lock winkey + L feature which I use to lock my pc when I walk away from it
[19:46] <becker_11> How can I get this feature again ??
[19:47] <Sysi> ctrl + alt + del
[19:47] <Sysi> does same thing
[19:47] <Sysi> or you can change hotkeys in settings
[19:47] <becker_11> Sysi, just tried that and it worked a treat thankyou
[19:49] <becker_11> 2ndly I installed ubuntu and then removed gnome fully after trying xfce but now I have the gnome volume control on my panel and no way to remove it .... it doesn't have the optiion in the right click menu any ideas??
[19:50] <charlie-tca> It may still have gnome-alsamixer installed; you would need to remove that to remove the gnome volume control
[19:51] <Sysi> becker_11: kill the process in system monitor
[19:51] <becker_11> charlie-tca,  when I try to run sound prefs it says failed to start child process gnome-volume-control file missing
[19:54] <becker_11> Sysi, I killed the process but strangely now the system monitor refuses to close.... weird!
[19:54] <sparvin> It seems to be choking on a scsi device.  There is none in here that I'm aware of.  Is there a boot param so it won't check for scsi devices?  I didn't find one in the docs.
[19:56] <becker_11> Ok I seem to remember a way to kill a process through the terminal if you have the process id I've just checked and sys monitor is 5150 could someone please tell me the command to use ??
[19:57] <raevol> hey all, where is the meeting going to be held?
[19:57] <knome> raevol, #ubuntu-meeting
[19:57] <charlie-tca> becker_11: sudo kill 5150
[19:57] <raevol> knome: thanks
[19:57] <knome> Xubuntu Team meeting in 3 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting!
[19:57] <becker_11> charlie-tca,  thanks
[19:57] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:58] <Sysi> knome: everyone are welcome?
[19:59] <charlie-tca> yes, Sysi
[19:59] <Sysi> eho cares :P
[19:59] <Sysi> *who
[20:00] <becker_11> I've been a windoze user all my life but I've got a mate who's a linux convert so when I bought my 9in Eeepc I dumped windows fdr UNR and loved it and now I've gone the xubuntu route on my desktop pc as well ....
[20:00] <becker_11> and Haven't looked back
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Great! Welcome to the group
[20:11] <becker_11> Cool I'm subed to the xubuntu mailing list. I'm off to watch a movie. Thanks everyone
[20:25] <steven__> does anyone know how to increase the colors from 256 to 16 . i am on xubuntu 600 mhz imac, crt G3
[20:26] <charlie-tca> steven__: you may have to try #ubuntu-powerpc or #ubuntu-ppc
[20:26] <charlie-tca> they might have more knowledge of imac then us
[20:27] <steven__> i am  having a hard time.. after installing xubuntu, it has 256 colors as default, and i don't see any type of change in the settings
[20:27] <charlie-tca> I don't know how to change it
[20:28] <steven__> when i had mac software, 10.4.1, the colors were fine
[20:28] <charlie-tca> But those channels on IRC have the powerpc/g3 people
[20:28] <steven__> ok.. let me look
[22:05] <heroid> hey guys please help me i have  Problems mounting a nokia 6233 phone with cable  My brothers phone's memory card gets mounted in gNewSense but not in xubuntu 9.04 nor in 9.10 any help, it shows up in lsusb as Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0421:0492 Nokia Mobile Phones
[22:24] <highvoltage> hey!
[22:24] <highvoltage> will there be notes from tonight's meeting? I had a family matter that I had to tend to
[22:27] <charlie-tca> There should be, posted on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[22:29] <knome> i will post them once the meeting ends first.
[22:36] <simple_> what about xubuntu lucid
[22:37] <simple_> im downloading now
[22:37] <simple_> is it stable
[22:37] <simple_> :s
[22:46] <TheSheep> simple_: it will be stable in April
[22:46] <TheSheep> simple_: at the end of it
[23:05] <knome> the minutes, agenda and logs are up at the wiki.
[23:06] <knome> (the xubuntu team meeting)
[23:33] <simple_> TheSheep, can u help me
[23:33] <simple_> how can i install xmms on xubuntu
[23:36] <TheSheep> simple_: xmms is not continued anymore, use audacious instead
[23:36] <TheSheep> !info audacious
[23:38] <garythi1> xmms2?
[23:38] <balvonas> audacious is crap
[23:38] <garythi1> !info xmms2
[23:38] <balvonas> xmms2 is crap without GUI
[23:39] <TheSheep> balvonas: do you have anything to say?
[23:39] <garythi1> oh...thanks
[23:39] <balvonas> TheSheep: yes, i have
[23:39] <garythi1> exaile?
[23:39] <balvonas> exaile is not bad
[23:40] <garythi1> my fave so far
[23:40]  * TheSheep likes quodlibet
[23:40] <TheSheep> mpd with a good client is nice too
[23:41] <garythi1> being new i'm interested in this conversation
[23:41] <garythi1> any others?
[23:41] <knome> banshee is also an option
[23:41] <balvonas> youki is nice too
[23:41] <knome> and rhythmbox
[23:42] <balvonas> decibel is usable
[23:42] <balvonas> ;]
[23:42] <simple_> i like exaile and rythymbox but i wonder how xmms2
[23:42] <TheSheep> xmms2 is something like mpd
[23:42] <TheSheep> a daemon
[23:42] <balvonas> simple_: xmms2 have nothing in common with xmms
[23:44] <simple_> hmm
[23:45] <simple_> i will install lucid now, and i will add this options to my favourite programm list :)
[23:49] <balvonas> what is the point of installing unstable version?
[23:49] <simple_> i cant add terminal shortcut to the desktop
[23:49] <simple_> i cant add anything else
[23:50] <simple_> i cant move icons on start bar
[23:54] <garythi1> off to check out quodlibet...thanks
[23:56] <simple_> balvonas
[23:56] <simple_> can u add any item to the desktop ?
[23:57] <simple_> a shortcut