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| alkisg | I'm having problems with sdl sound in edubuntu Lucid (while plain Ubuntu Lucid works fine). | 15:32 |
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| alkisg | Could it be that phonon somehow messes with the backends? | 15:32 |
| sbalneav | dunno, never played with phonon | 15:37 |
| alkisg | It gets installed by default in edubuntu, unfortunately :( | 15:39 |
| sbalneav | hm | 15:39 |
| alkisg | (either that or I did something wrong) | 15:39 |
| ogra | likely by kdeedu | 15:40 |
| highvoltage | I just checked the rdepents and it is indeed kdeedu apps that depend on it | 15:40 |
| alkisg | I heard that kde won't use pulseaudio as the default backend in Lucid, it'll be ready for pulseaudio but won't use it due to lack of testing. Maybe we should test/make it as the default backend in edubuntu (if that's actually the problem, that is...) | 15:41 |
| alkisg | As gcompris, tux* etc all use sdl | 15:41 |
| * alkisg will test more to pinpoint his problem | 15:42 | |
| highvoltage | wow, rsyncing from the karmic dvd to the latest daily build is quite faster than I thought it would be | 15:44 |
| highvoltage | (just started a few minutes ago and it's already on 9%) | 15:44 |
| alkisg | Karmic? Wow... | 15:44 |
| alkisg | I use dl-ubuntu-test-iso, it's handy for syncing daily builds | 15:44 |
| highvoltage | I'll look into that, in the old days I used one of ogra's scripts | 15:45 |
| highvoltage | I don't want to sync every day though, it would make me poor :) | 15:45 |
| highvoltage | (I mean, poorer) | 15:45 |
| alkisg | How much do you pay to e.g. download a full dvd? | 15:46 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: around 25 euro | 15:48 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: I'm trying out a new ISP that's a bit cheaper atm, I think with them it will be around 15 euro instead. | 15:49 |
| alkisg | Wow internet is *really* expensive there... You'd be better off with freenx and a report VM | 15:50 |
| highvoltage | yeah | 15:51 |
| highvoltage | I like having it here though :) | 15:51 |
| highvoltage | and that's just for bandwidth, we also have to pay extra DSL rental on top of our phone line rental costs | 15:51 |
| alkisg | *remote, not report. What's wrong with me today? | 15:51 |
| highvoltage | so before I even transfer a bit my dsl line already costs me around 50 euro | 15:51 |
| alkisg | So what people percentage actually has internet? 1 out of 100?!!! | 15:52 |
| highvoltage | possibly quite a bit more than that, but when it comes to broadband internet... it's probably less than 1 out of a 100 | 15:52 |
| highvoltage | most people connect using GPRS/EDGE/3G/HSDPA since there's no fixed monthly rental charges | 15:53 |
| highvoltage | so lots of people do that and pay 0.20 euro per MB for whatever amount of bandwidth they can afford | 15:53 |
| alkisg | I see... we mostly use that method for GPRS/3G here, as broadband is quite common/cheap. I only pay 20€ per month, and that includes my phone bill & internet access (6 mbps) | 15:55 |
| highvoltage | that seems quite common in europe | 15:56 |
| highvoltage | our expensiveness is purely due to our telecoms monopoly here | 15:56 |
| highvoltage | we had a competitor join in recently, but Telkom still controls pretty much everything (they're the only ones who can still provide DSL, for example) | 15:57 |
| alkisg | We had monopoly maybe 5 years ago, and _now_ the main provider starts lowering its prices :-/ | 15:58 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: the ldm-crashing problem I was experiencing was because of LP #505787. I worked around the problem, and also I have FAT_CLIENT=True in my lts.conf, but I'm logging on normally (as a thin client) instead. Any hints? | 16:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 505787 in ltsp "nbd-client /dev/nbd0 is ran twice, causing ldm to segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/505787 | 16:03 |
| * alkisg tries with LTSP_FATCLIENT=True instead of FAT_CLIENT=True... | 16:22 | |
| highvoltage | alkisg: working? | 16:27 |
| alkisg | Yup, finally! | 16:27 |
| alkisg | phone, brb... | 16:28 |
| * stgraber bangs his head on the wall ... that CD building thing is really really complicated ... | 16:40 | |
| stgraber | stgraber@castiana:~/data/code/ubuntu-cdimage$ find . | wc -l | 16:40 |
| stgraber | 1635 | 16:40 |
| stgraber | that's all the scripts used to build a CD image ;) | 16:40 |
| highvoltage | wow. with that many files there's probably a lot of sourcing and run-partsing, etc | 16:42 |
| * alkisg hugs stgraber as well :) | 16:44 | |
| stgraber | yep, lots of sourcing + it's debian packaged + there's a Makefile ;) | 16:45 |
| stgraber | just poked ubuntu-release about it, let's hope someone knows how that magic works (cjwatson is way too busy to look at it now) | 16:45 |
| alkisg | Wouldn't it be a good idea to install by default (in 010-fat-client) all the langpacks that the server has? | 16:46 |
| highvoltage | that's a good idea, I guess some people might like the chroot a bit smaller by default, but perhaps it should be an option | 16:47 |
| alkisg | Or at least the one that matches the server locale... | 16:48 |
| alkisg | Hmm maybe that switch could be handled by 030-late-packages... | 16:51 |
| highvoltage | sent 477715 bytes received 2234932395 bytes 307589.97 bytes/sec | 17:42 |
| highvoltage | total size is 3336513536 speedup is 1.49 | 17:42 |
| highvoltage | that's between karmic release and the latest alpha iso | 17:42 |
| highvoltage | or at least, daily build | 17:42 |
| * stgraber is making progress on getting LTSP in the DVD image | 18:59 | |
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