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gordMenZa, thats prolly not an appropriate link for -ot00:04
MenZagord: I disagree.00:04
MenZagord: it's of principled nature.00:04
MenZagord: also, note my sarcasm.00:04
gordMenZa, you can rally against other causes all you want but its still not appropriate for -ot, if it were anyone else i would of taken more action00:05
MenZagord: I still disagree heavily. I don't find it inappropriate in any way00:06
gord<context><MenZa> http://blog.lassehavelund.com/2010/how-to-make-a-pipe-bomb/ <3</context>00:06
MenZalast I checked, gord, computer-related politics was fair game in -ot00:07
gordits not the politics thats the problem MenZa00:07
gordobviously00:07
gordits the "how to make a pipe bomb" part00:08
MenZagord: what, coat a tube in pink and paint ponies on it, fill it with an explosive substance and light it on fire?00:08
MenZathat doesn't seem like a massive brainsqueezer.00:09
gordits still really not appropriate for -ot00:09
MenZaI wouldn't call it inappropriate.00:10
Seeker`haven;t looked at the link, but the URL seems like it would be unsuitable00:14
MenZaSeeker`: The URL does not explain what the post is about, at all.00:17
tritiumCosmicPizza (wanadoo.fr hostmask) is idle, and in 16 US LoCo channels, along with #ubuntu and #ubuntu-fr.  Any idea if it's a bot of some kind?00:48
Seeker`msg them with !google, see what happens (seen bots do that before)00:49
tritiumok00:50
tritiumNo response.00:50
nikohum00:52
nikogood catch00:52
nikohe didn't nothing, no message for months00:53
nikohis client is Xchat00:53
nikohis ctcp.00:53
nikosuspicious anyway00:59
MenZameh, as long as he/she/it doesn't do anything malicious, *shrug*01:00
nikodepends channels, in #ubuntu-fr we disallow any kind of bot01:01
nikobut will we see01:01
nhandlerI'm seeing a CosmicPizza that participated in a few discussions, for instance: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2007/10/21/%23ubuntu-georgia.html01:02
tritiumok01:03
tritiumIt just looked a bit odd, at first.01:03
nikothanks nhandler01:04
* jrib invites Amaranth_ to stay02:12
Amaranth_heh02:12
WireWulfthats odd i shouldnt be wirewulf07:52
dholbachgood morning07:59
FlannelHowdy dholbach08:00
dholbachhi Flannel08:00
MenZamorning dholbach08:14
dholbachhey MenZa08:15
elkymaco, are you still up?09:11
bazhangholy is sp0rtily13:04
topylioh13:05
bazhanggroovyOrange grow-as-apple etc13:05
topylioh yes, i remember n=ilya13:06
topylirealname, rather13:06
topylievading, it seems. i see bans in effect13:12
elkyi should hope they are. he's yet to acknowledge that creepiness isn't ok13:17
Piciso...13:19
topyliindeed13:20
topyliremove, invite, what13:21
bazhangwant me to PM him?13:21
elkyworth a fresh try13:22
elkyif it gets circular, bring him here13:22
jpdstsimpson: Can we have a way of pruning the bans database?13:31
jpdsbans.db : 384.36M13:31
jpdsI dunno, bans which have been removed and older than 2 years -> delete.13:32
tsimpsonwe should come up with a set period ban data is kept for, and a way to have exceptions13:32
bazhangholy, hi13:32
holyWhat?13:32
bazhangthanks for joining13:33
holythis is mIRC and it is very unusual. Although, I remember ikonia asked something in here...13:34
bazhangholy, you are ban-evading in #ubuntu-offtopic ; formerly user known as groovyOrange, grow-as-apples, and more13:35
holyThat's a crime! :)13:35
bazhangit's against network policy13:36
holyHe should grow as a good kid maybe. lol13:36
holyno13:36
holyI have asked for this set of names recently13:36
holystarting from ilya, ilya_13:36
bazhangit's best to discuss here to have the ban removed, rather than switch IP address and ban-evade13:37
holyAnd finally this name13:37
holyI can not switch IP, DNS are automatic or maybe some default ones. But let's unban me, OK.13:38
elkyholy, do you know why you're banned?13:39
holyno13:40
elkyare you sure? we talked to you a lot when you were using your fruity nicknames13:42
elkybazhang, are you still discussing with him or do you need another's input?13:44
holyi din't use anything.13:44
bazhangelky, he never responded to my PM, other than my asking to join here13:45
holyWhat? It's like you're talking about me!13:45
elkyholy, we keep records of our bans so we know why they are there when we have to deal with others bans. this means we have information about your past behaviour13:46
elkyi can paste a list of your old nicknames, but i'd rather not as this is a logged channel13:47
elkyhowever, we do need to discuss your behaviour. people find that you make them very uncomfortable13:47
elkycan you think why this may be?13:47
holyWhat do you mean by "logged channel"?13:47
elky!logs13:48
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/13:48
elkyeverything we say here is recorded in to "logs" which google can see.13:48
holyThe names contain words or phrases which are censored.13:48
elkythis is for your protection as much as mine13:49
elkyno, the logs are not censored13:49
elky#ubuntu is logged too.13:49
holyWe shall probably hide some bad names and discover another. This make sence if we're about the content which educates our children.13:50
elkyholy, please focus on the questions i am asking you13:50
holyIPs should generally be protected with a cloak, as folks at #freenode say.13:51
elkypeople find that you make them very uncomfortable. can you think why you might make them uncomfortable?13:51
holySo send me these names by an email. I pasted my Email at #. . . few times already -- so it's personal but it was seen by many people.13:52
holyyes13:52
elkyand why do you think that is?13:52
elkyholy, please answer me13:54
holyTonyyarusso, for example, usually doesn't get the fact I don't know many English words and talks with me just as I'm his 'English' pal. But I sometimes don't even have a dictionary.13:55
holyI don't know English and annoy people.13:55
elkyholy, what in *your* behaviour makes other people scared around you?13:55
elkyi can show examples. i want to see if you understand13:57
holyWhat?13:58
holyI think I may understand what you are about to try to say, but I don't want to spend your time.13:59
elkyholy, i can find examples of you asking people their weight in #ubuntu-offtopic13:59
elkydo you realise why this is bad?13:59
holyThey would go further in the stress and devotion?14:00
elkyyou also made some comments about stalking.14:01
elkydo you realise why this is bad?14:01
holystalking?14:02
elkyyes.14:02
holyno, I don't understand what do you mean by this word, stalking. The definition I find is weird14:03
elkywhat definition did you find?14:04
holyhunting for someone to, probably, talk to14:05
elkythat is correct.14:06
elkydo you know that following people can make them scared?14:06
holyThis sounds unnormal. So say what was it said about.14:07
elkyespecially when you ask them personal questions such as if they are fat or skinny14:07
holyelky chatting isn't so scaring.14:07
elkyit is when you want private information14:07
elkysomeone's weight is private information if you cannot see it14:07
elkydo you like it when people ask you things you do *not* want to say to them?14:08
holyI'm sitting sick at home because I fought with 10 drunken teenagers few days ago. they could kill me.14:08
elkythat's not what we're discussing14:08
holyFew days and I will go back to work. Although, will hve to walk at night, anyway..14:09
holyelky they always ask it.14:09
elkythat's not what i asked. i asked if you are happy for people to ask you information you want to keep private14:10
holymany people asked where am i live and i have given them some place i know about14:10
holyI was very inventing one, not the scary one... :)14:10
holyelky One person on IRC advised me to say something consistent but imaginery.14:11
holySo I do.14:11
elkysigh. since you cannot take seriously that you scare people by asking them *private* details they want to keep as secrets, then I cannot unban you.14:11
holyprivate information?14:11
elkyyes14:11
holylike weight?14:11
elkyi cannot see your weight from here. it is a secret. you cannot see mine. it is also a secret14:12
elkyi do not want to tell you that secret and would be scared of you if you asked14:12
holyand like what else?14:12
holyelky So these are probably people from some closed chats. Not from e.g. #english or #running.14:13
holyAlso, what if I have registered names after someone has asked it?14:14
elkyholy, you asked personal private information about people and you made them scared. you talked about stalking, and you made more people scared. you are not sorry for either. why would i be mean to the users and let you scare them again?14:14
holyI stalked ot talked about stalking? I don't understand, tell what you intended to say directly.14:15
elkyyou talked about it like it was good14:16
elkyand asked what people looked like. and whether they were fat or skinny. it is very very creepy to do that.14:17
holyProve it. Someone with this name, probably not even identified, were talking about something and I have to discuss it!?14:17
elkyyou called people tyrants for being scared of you14:17
holyI yes saw watch one time a sexual scene with male gays. But not more! :)14:17
Myrttiright14:18
holyI never ask this shit.14:18
MyrttiI think this discussion is over14:18
elkyMyrtti, agreed. holy, your ban will *NOT* be lifted.14:19
bazhangoh well worth a try14:19
MyrttiI wouldn't say that in the light of my backlog14:19
Myrttiutter waste of time14:20
ikoniahe/she speaks english fine under the other nicknames - so that's nonsense14:20
bazhangyep14:20
elkyit's probably a scrutiny thing. when it really counts, he chokes. the hesitations are there.14:22
jpdswut.14:23
elkyeither way, his attitude has not improved in the least14:24
elkyand i am so not going to point the creep to the people who he creeped out in 200814:24
elky.oO(It's been that long? lolwut where did my year go?)14:26
Myrttioh lol15:21
MyrttiI was just !attitude'd at #ubuntu15:21
Myrttiit made me lol15:21
geniiMyrtti: Me too15:22
ubotturedpages called the ops in #ubuntu ()15:28
tsimpsonMyrtti: at least it was by a troll :)15:28
PiciIt usually is.15:29
Piciikonia: thanks?15:38
ikoniasnigger15:38
* ikonia trolls pici15:38
* Pici suggests keeping an eye on irc915:47
ikonianoted15:48
ikonianice ident15:48
Piciyou mean host. But yes.15:48
ikoniayes15:48
tommy3can someone check to see why I am banned on #ubuntu, and if it can be cleared.18:13
jussi01tommy3: just a moment please18:14
tommy3jussi01: still there?18:28
Picitommy3: We just were discussing the issue, the ban has been removed.18:28
tommy3Pici: Thanks. I can only guess that someone in my company did something and got the ip banned. Dont remember doing anything myself.18:29
jussi01tommy3: possibly. In anycase it would be a good idea to peruse the guidelines a little and make sure everything is good ;)18:31
jussi01!guidelines18:31
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines18:31
Picijussi01: thanks, just distracted a bit here.18:31
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)18:31
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)18:31
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)18:31
Picier18:32
jussi01tommy3: Enjoy your stay in ubuntu :) If theres anything else you need from the ops, feel free to join back here :)18:33
jussi01tommy3: is there anything else you need from us?18:38
jussi01tommy3: ?18:40
Pici!away > Claudiu__18:40
jussi01hehe, I was just going to do that18:41
jussi01Bryanstein: is there something we can help you with?18:43
pressenterGood afternoob.18:54
pressenterI'm an op from #ubuntu-pl and we have a problem, cause our owner hasnt been showing like 4 or 5 months now and we pretty much cant do anything.18:54
pressenterIs there a way to do something with this, if we have no contact with the owner?18:55
tsimpsonpressenter: #ubuntu-irc is the best place to discuss this18:57
pressenterK, thanks.18:57
pressenterTake care.19:02
* Myrtti facepalms20:07
topyliBryanstein, can we help you?20:08
Myrttiidle 11hrs20:10
topylighrmfpf20:10
PiciThats why we use /remove and not /kick20:10
Myrttiyup20:10
Myrttiseems just weird that someone like a admin of a shell provider would have autojoin-on-kick on, though20:11
Myrttiold saying of the jungle "kick is not an invite"20:11
Myrtti"TUT-TUT"20:12
Myrttimneptok: I trust you are pm'ing him?20:14
mneptoknope20:22
mneptokbut i'll respond if he asks. and he's in another channel i'm in20:22
Myrtticould someone confirm what I just saw on #ubuntu?20:44
mneptokconfirmed.20:45
guntbertplease have someone an eye on master_: in #ubuntu? I'm not sure if he is only a little too eager to help...21:07
nhandlerAlright, thanks for the heads up guntbert21:11
guntbertnhandler: np :)21:11
Myrtti!cloak > Tayl21:28

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