[10:27] lamont: I noticed that davis is back on dapper. what needs to happen for lucid so we can get the ppc boxes running a recent LTS? [12:01] TheMuso: we need a stable kernel [12:02] Apple Xserve vs >= hardy is not stable [12:10] hrm ok [12:44] TheMuso: when eglibc regressed on dapper kernels, we took a stab at the karmic kernel... it failed to be stable. [21:22] lamont: How is it not stable? [21:23] TheMuso: crashes in filesystem space (mostly OOPSes, iirc), throws random SIGSEGVs, etc. [21:23] Not sure what it is about the Apple Xserves, but they haven't liked anything since hardy... not sure about edgy-gutsy, either [21:24] since we ran dapper until hardy came out, then hardy one place for about a day or two, then punted. [21:24] lamont: Hrm ok. [21:24] and we have now confirmed that karmic is in the same boat [21:24] Kinda sucks, because I have ppc64 hardware that runs karmic and doesn't miss a beat. [21:25] I got a good 10-12 minutes into simultaneous builds of linux, gcc-4.4, and eglibc before it paniced [21:25] ouch [21:25] well, it oopsed shortly before that, then died several seconds later [21:25] Hrm ok. We need to get something sorted soon if ppc is to survive the next year or so. [21:25] i.e get the kernel sorted. [21:43] ah, come on, it still has 17 months of support... :-p [21:43] but yeah, a working Xserve kernel for lucid would be most lovely