[01:33] Is there anyway to stop the terminal from scrolling down back to the bottom when new info comes? [01:49] dbdii407, right-click -> preferences -> check out "scroll on output" checkboc from the "general" tab. [01:50] knome: Ty very much [01:50] np. have fun [01:51] Got very annoying during my development [01:51] that happens [02:12] good night. [02:33] Is this where I get Xubuntu technical support? [02:34] Hello? [02:35] Ok nevermind, I will probably just go back to windows. [02:36] Good riddance then [03:02] Is this Xubuntu support? [03:02] Hello? [03:04] OK THIS IS NOT F***ING FUNNY! If i cant get xubuntu support, I will never use XUBUNTU EVER AGAIN! [03:06] hello...being a newbie, don't know if i can help much...better to wait a bit [03:09] some kind of bumping system? [03:09] !netsplit [03:09] Bah. bot is currently offline [03:09] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [03:09] Or just slow [03:14] never heard of xbuntu before.. what's the focus with this version? [03:15] lightweight desktop [03:16] that's what i was figgerin.. xfce kind of thing? [03:16] yep [03:16] cool.. [03:16] i like it too...enough to switch [03:16] <[mccracken]> It rocks. So much smoother than Ubuntu (for me). :D [03:16] <[mccracken]> Simple, but powerful. [05:39] good morning residents of xubuntu === tuvok302Lappy is now known as tuvok302 [08:25] where is my dvdrom [08:25] how can i see my dvdrom [08:25] how can i mount [08:51] !tab [08:51] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [09:04] hi everyone, i plan to use xubuntu, but i don not know which one to install, 8.04 9.04 or 9.10,( my laptop was crashed under 9.10 gnome [09:04] which are you using ?? [09:04] is it stable? [09:05] 9.04 is stable [09:06] 9.10 is too [09:07] i have bad expirience with karmic [09:08] works great here, havnt had a problem [09:25] the items on the Desktop have a white background, how to get rid of it ? [09:26] e.g. the filename are in white bar [09:43] Hi, anybody watch cbc.ca videos? i seem to be having a flash prob [09:44] yet flash works on everything else [09:46] http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_Passionate_Eye/ID=1377424366 [09:46] in case anyone wants to try [09:46] what is your problem, anyway ? [09:47] won't play [09:47] have you tried mozilla-vlc or something like that? [09:48] content is on cbc [09:49] oh, i think i know what you mean...i'll try [09:51] i copied the link into vlc...no luk [09:52] it's the only flash that doesn't work, might be a cbc thing [09:52] i think i used mplayer-plugin or something [09:53] i'll try that too then...thanks [09:55] nope...i'll have to watch it in windows...dam thanks for trying people [12:43] trying to copy from one disk to another, I'm in using a live cd, both hdds are mounted, but can't copy, can write to destination disk, but when I try to copy from source disk, permission is denied [12:43] tried to but user on source disk shows up as 1000 === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [13:22] I can't play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6GqYhh9gN0 after 0:46 in Karmic. What's wrong? [13:23] stupid video? :P [13:24] anyway, worksforme. [13:24] im sad to say i can [13:25] Oh well, I can, too, but in two parts. [13:25] Halme just died, btw. [13:25] ablomen: what is your software? [13:26] jarnos, really, nobody cares. #xubuntu-offtopic if you have to talk about that [13:26] karmic, flashplugin-nonfree from the repo's [13:27] knome: then don't say, it is stupid video ;) [13:33] ablomen: I use flashplugin-installer. [13:34] from multiverse/web [13:50] ablomen: it stucks at 0:46, if I let the video download from the beginning. If I move the pointer to say 0:40 and download begans from there, it can pass 0:46. Did you download from the beginning by flashplugin-nonfree? [13:52] no i didnt [13:53] ablomen: ok, thanks for letting me know. [16:31] hi im using xubuntu 9.10 on my mac book pro with nvidia 9400M. when i plug in my external monitor (native 1680x1050) and use the nvidia tool ican only choose resolutions up to 1280x1024. any idea how to fix this? [16:35] hyatt, unfortunately, are bound by the limits of the nvidia driver. It is not open source and no one in the community can modify the code or bugfix it. We get the perverbial "stone tablets" from the burning bush of Nvidia. [16:36] You could make sure you are using the latest driver or go on their discussion forum, hyatt. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 [16:37] Pres-Gas: true, but i think its not a problem with the driver itself, i just found a thread that said i have to add the monitor manually to the xorg conf [16:37] I comiserate with you, though. I would like to get more resolution as well, but not had enough time to really research it (or perhaps just too lazy). :P [16:53] The ONLY thing I like about windows is the shortcut that makes all windows minimize (windows key+ d) Is there a way to do this in Xubuntu? [16:55] yes i think so, just dont remember. let me look [17:00] winkey + e = explorer [17:00] alt+F4 = close / Shutdown (also works in ubuntu i noticed) [17:00] winkey + d = minimize all windows to desktop [17:00] ctrl+esc = winkey = start menu [17:00] winkey + l = lock computer [17:02] chech window manager settings [17:05] hal_9001, Aha... show desktop. Was Ctrl+Alt+d by default. Thanks. [17:06] Now, what did I want on my desktop that finally pushed me over the "go ask" edge... [17:07] ? [17:11] Nevermind, I'm numbing it. Thanks again. [17:12] ok [17:12] Unless you know where I adjust system sounds. Not volume, but event sounds. [17:13] In Jaunty. I looked all over yesterday to stop someone's laptop from beeping; couldn't find it anywhere in the forums or googling. [17:13] Forget it. Different project [17:15] no clue on that one. sorry [17:55] hello :) [17:56] samba, how? [17:57] !samba [17:57] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [17:57] charlie-tca, ...you were faster than me [17:57] you were busy [17:57] no, i wasn't :P [17:57] \o/ [17:57] i was just wondering if i could get some help, please? [17:57] i was thinking access [17:57] damn ;) [17:58] not host [17:58] !ask | East_Coast_Girl [17:58] East_Coast_Girl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:58] charlie-tca, 1-1 [17:58] ubottu: well i didn't want it to be a wall of text :D [17:58] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:58] Rascal999: you will have to expand on it then. That link tells quite a bit aouth how to [17:58] Rascal999, that tutorial coves accessing as well [17:58] charlie-tca, damn, 2-1 for you :) [17:58] * charlie-tca thinks "great minds think alike" [17:59] I installed Xubuntu 9.04 on my ps3 and it works beautifully (well except for no sound and no flash but i don't really mind that at the moment). I can update that with no issues. But as soon as I install 9.10, the USB ports crap out and the mouse and keyboard stop working about 10 seconds after the desktop fully loads. When the OS is loading, it says that the USB ports are deregisters but works fine in 9.04 but totally craps [17:59] out on 9.10. What's wrong and how can i fix it. Thanks :) [17:59] knome: I tried to say I came back, at least for a little while... [17:59] so you have to perma 'link'? What happened to smb://... [17:59] !ps3 | East_Coast_Girl [17:59] East_Coast_Girl: Aside from i386 and amd64 platforms, Ubuntu is also available for alternate platforms. Playstation 3 ( support in #ubuntu-ps3 ) Apple PowerPC ( support in #ubuntu-ppc ) [17:59] East_Coast_Girl: Are you using the port for 9.10? [18:00] I think the port was broken for 9.10 [18:00] East_Coast_Girl, i mean, you can try here as well but #ubuntu-ppc might give you better results :) [18:00] knome: ahhh okay thanks :) [18:00] Rascal999: Might only be a gnome desktop option [18:01] East_Coast_Girl, i mean #ubuntu-ps3 of course ... [18:01] charlie-tca, i suppose the new thunar (not in the repo's yet) support smb:// [18:01] knome: okay i'll ask there too, thanks :) [18:01] oh-oh, knome is slow and making mistakes? [18:01] Rascal999, that's a nautilus feature [18:01] charlie-tca, yeah. somehow i can't get that essay out of my mind :) [18:02] knome: I don't know, I just don't use samba yet [18:02] charlie-tca, i'll never use samba. :) [18:02] knome, nautilus available on xubuntu? [18:02] Rascal999, 'sudo apt-get install nautilus', but it will install a lot of gnome. [18:03] Rascal999, also, if you run without '--no-desktop', it will take control of your desktop [18:03] okay thanks a whole lot folks :) //waves// [18:05] knome, lol, defeats the point of xubuntu for me [18:06] Rascal999, exactly. [18:06] Rascal999, mr_pouit put the new thunar in a ppa yesterday, though [18:06] Rascal999, are you familiar with ppa's ? [18:11] knome, ish [18:11] Rascal999, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa [18:11] Rascal999, check that ppa out. you'll be able to install thunar 1.1.0 [18:11] Rascal999, which, iirc, supports smb [18:13] knome, ok i'll check it out sometime === hhlp_ is now known as hhlp [19:27] which release of xubuntu is the most stable ? and mot usable [19:28] Officially, 9.10 [19:28] no, 8.04 [19:28] its LTS [19:28] true [19:28] but i cant add items to the desktop in 9.10 [19:29] but only on a server, without all the gui updates [19:29] some hardware may work better on newer versions [19:29] i cant add any item to the panel [19:29] :( [19:29] What kind of items? [19:29] for examle shortcuts [19:30] like firefox or terminal or something else [19:30] You right click it, click add to panel, launcher, it fails? [19:31] i want to do it with drag item to the desktop [19:31] like ubuntu karmic [19:31] it doesn't happen with xfce [19:31] Drag and drop does not work the same in Xubuntu. That is a gnome feature [19:31] idk about kde [19:31] hmm [19:32] propably work on that also [19:32] Xubuntu has it's own features, which are not the same as Gnome [19:32] yes its so easy and so simple [19:32] and so fast [19:33] transparency settings ♥ [19:33] huh i dont know them :( [19:33] Not always simple, it can be harder to do things in Xubuntu, since we don't actually cater to the new user of Linux [19:33] how is lucid [19:33] can i use it ? [19:34] "Window manager tweaks", copositing [19:34] or is there any changes [19:34] lucid is unstable [19:34] not yet [19:34] Lucid can be used, but will break [19:34] It is not even alpha2 yet [19:34] in alpha 3 or 4 are all new features [19:35] so im installing 8.04 ? [19:35] or 9.10 ? [19:35] your decision [19:35] your advise ? [19:35] both have some problems [19:36] but 8.04 starts really to be old [19:37] (good to say, currently on centos) [19:37] or 9.04, but 9.10 has more new hardware in it [19:37] 8.04 will be supported on the desktop until april of 2011 [19:38] but 10.04 will officially replace it [19:38] Sysi: charlie-tca what u use ? [19:39] I use Ubuntu-Server 9.04 on my server, Xubuntu 9.10 with ext3 on this machine I use daily, and test 10.04 daily [19:39] ahem; fedora, centos, and 9.10 in testbox [19:40] centos for server ? [19:40] no, this desktop [19:41] woa [19:41] centos [19:42] fedora didn't like my sound card and i want to wait 10.04 [19:42] its interesting :) [19:42] this works like perfectly [19:42] I run Xubuntu on 5 systems, it works the best for me [19:43] hmm, i have it on old netbook too [19:46] thnks for all [19:48] Hello, I'm looking for the file that I've been told is located @ ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/chrome/userChrome-example.css [19:48] but the entire chrome folder is missing from my desktop xubuntu installation [19:49] I found it in the correct location on my netbook using UNR [19:50] the /chrome folder should be there [19:50] But you can create it, if needed [19:51] The files are the same on all versions of Ubuntu/Xubuntu [19:51] Hi charlie-tca yeah it should but it's not I've checked including trying ls -a [19:51] charlie-tca, They are? I wasn't sure if maybe they were moved somewhere else for some reason [19:51] hi charlie-tca [19:51] Hello, gandalph [19:52] becker_11: it should be there, it did not get moved. [19:52] so I can just create the folder and then make the file I need and everything will be sweet? [19:52] You just need to create it if you are going to customize thngs [19:52] charlie, i have tested lucid last day on my older pc [19:52] cool charlie-tca thanks [19:52] You are welcome [19:52] gandalph: how did it work? [19:53] lucid as rolling-release. full buggy [19:53] yup [19:53] It is alpha, that's why we say it will break your installation if you want to use it. [19:53] Did you file any bugs? [19:54] but after the base-installion from iso, lucid was with full function [19:54] no, i dont have files from or about bugs [19:54] That is what it should be. It just works off and on, depending on the day and the updates made [19:55] for examble: after full-upgrade or dist-upgrade hal without function yet [19:55] I will start using it this week, just to try and see what is working [19:56] hal has been stopped in it, so you get the warning about power-manager. They are trying to decide what to do with it [19:56] my usb-sticks, external usb-hdd were not mounted all the time [19:56] yes, powermanager is buggy yet [19:56] yeah, that should be in work, too [19:56] Hopefully, there will be a new build today or tomorrow to test [19:57] i have tested plymouth [19:57] in lucid [19:57] how is it? [19:57] no function befor or after the package-installation [19:58] sorry [19:58] nvidia geforce 5500: driver is broken yet [19:59] yes, nvidia is not working yet with the drivers. It is all of nvidia, though [19:59] Also, on the live cd's today, the package is missing completely [20:00] newer software was integrated in lucid: gigolo and software-center [20:00] gigolo was in 9.10, but most items in 10.04 are newer versions [20:01] hmm.. with freedriver of lucid my graficcard was supported, i have seen small effects on xfce. [20:02] Is there anyway to hide certain file types from showing in thunar? [20:02] hidden files can be made not to show [20:03] but I don't know anyway to stop someone from turning them on [20:03] oha, i didnt tested thunar [20:03] with more function [20:03] I want .pyc to not show. :P [20:04] gandalph: this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo/Short [20:04] dbdii407: not any way that I know of [20:05] charlie: thanks for the website [20:06] You are welcome [20:06] should have given it to you earlier [20:07] The ubuntu qa test-cases don't work for most of xubuntu; mine do [20:09] wonderfull, your name is on the website. ;-) [20:10] yeah, I may have written that page ;-) [20:10] you are a good man [20:11] just a busy one [20:12] charlie, does xubuntu without gimp in the future? [20:12] I don't know yet [20:13] let me see if I can find an answer [20:14] i read this question in german userforum and the answer were perhaps. [20:14] because, gimp is to heavy for beginners [20:14] * charlie-tca thinks perhaps leaves a pretty big gap; it is like maybe [20:15] yes maybe. [20:15] If it is removed from Ubuntu, it will make more space available on the cd image, which is greatly needed. [20:15] They have to remove an application or two, or languages [20:16] ok, can i install gimp in the next versions of ubuntu? [20:16] Gimp will still be in the repositories, so you can install it, yes [20:16] fine! [20:17] It just won't install as a default application [20:17] ok, ok [20:17] We will keep it for now [20:17] We have plenty of room on the cd [20:18] i understand. [20:21] hi people [20:21] !hi | nathan1 [20:21] nathan1: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines . Enjoy your stay! [20:22] charlie: you know, i have xubuntu. can i install and use packages from Mint-sources? [20:22] Mint should be using the ubuntu-repositories, last I looked, so it should work. Do they have some we don't? [20:23] No guarantees, though. If the repository is one Ubuntu does not use, it could break things [20:25] ok, only i have reportisories of xubuntu. mint has very many packages for multimedia. ;-) [20:25] Have you added medibuntu? [20:25] !medibuntu [20:25] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [20:25] That should be where most of them came from [20:26] I'll install mint and look [20:27] i know about medibuntu, but mint has more multimedia-tools [20:28] i'm installing now so I can see what they are doing [20:28] what do you install? mint or medibuntu? [20:28] It is based on Ubuntu, and uses the same repositories, but maybe they added some others [20:28] I am installing mint [20:29] it's what I do all day [20:29] ubuntustudio is a specialized distro for multimedia editing with real time kernel if remember well [20:30] mint is based on ubuntu, but the distribution is with a different build, other packages, more packages. [20:30] I like mythbuntu, too [20:30] for television and hdd-recorder? [20:31] yup [20:31] i didnt tested mythbuntu, yet. [20:31] mint is a little slow to install [20:32] mint is not stable, i think [20:32] I have tested almost everything, I think, except UNR [20:32] It is supposed to stable [20:32] It is based on 9.10, it should be stable [20:32] All they do is add things, and change it a bit [20:33] well, i think, LTS is stable? [20:33] Any release is stable here, LTS is Long Term Support [20:34] xubuntu 8.04 is stabler than 9.10? [20:34] xubuntu 8.04 is LTS [20:35] for servers, they seldom will update anything except security issues, which makes it very stable [20:35] the next LTS will be lucid 10.4? [20:35] yes [20:35] In actual day to day use, the user will normally update everything, so LTS becomes out of date for them [20:36] ok, 9.10 is a testing-version for LTS 10.04, only? [20:37] Linux mint has it's own repository for some stuff, that might break xubuntu. Here is the list: http://packages.linuxmint.com/ [20:37] gandalph: no [20:38] The rest come from medibuntu or Ubuntu [20:38] it's release of ubuntu [20:38] no, gandalph, 9.10 was released as a stable version [20:39] LTS is over 3 years for workstation, 5 years for servers? [20:39] yes [20:39] I have installed Mint on a lappie that came with ubuntu 8.04 desktop for the missus and it runs sweet ... [20:39] It isn't too bad, I just don't like the colors much [20:39] she grumbles occasionally about openoffice she is a diehard ms office user but other than that she is happy with it [20:40] Great! It keeps her in open source software, right? Every user counts [20:42] charlie-tca, I'm at a loss atm with a problem in firefox some of the fonts are invisible on web pages. I can see headings etc and sidebar stuff but not the main article I have to highlight the text to read it ..... I first had this problem with comment boxes when using a black xubuntu theme now I've changed to a light theme and it happens on the main pages .... [20:42] change the font to something else [20:43] yeah it's not the font it's the color but it's not happening on every page ... google is fine but this page http://www.blork.org/blorkblog/2009/03/10/optimize-firefox-for-your-netbook/ I can't see [20:43] for starters, in firefox, view -> Character encoding -> auto detect and utf8 [20:44] okay did that [20:44] it is a good page [20:44] any change? [20:45] If it still isn't visible, it might be a problem with the theme itself [20:45] gandalph: anything else? [20:46] fixed it .... I changed the defaults to black background and white text but that page must define a background but not a font so it was using my font color meaning I have white background and text .... changed it back to normal black font on white and it's good [20:46] duh! [20:46] that will do it, too [20:46] Why white background with white text? [20:47] Isn't that hard to see/ [20:47] charlie: thanks, i have got enought information about xubuntu from you :-) [20:47] no problem [20:47] That is what we are here for [20:48] yes, i know. [20:48] the page defined a background in this case white and my font/background was white/black so firefox used my white text on the specified background which being white caused the problem [20:48] hard to explain but simple once you work it out ..... [20:49] I see. I misunderstood [20:49] no prob. [20:49] Once again I had a problem caused by the fact I fiddle too much lol [20:49] if some user has a problem, so they can take help from irc here. [20:49] of course [20:50] irc rules gandalph [20:50] ok, becker_11. ;-) [20:51] although not every channel, the guys in #linux on dalnet are snobs and answer noobs questions rudely. The guys in here are awesome and don't mind helping [20:51] yes, some help is more polite that other help [20:52] Something I learnt on windows too if your not busy just sit in the channel and read you will be amazed what you pick up and you may find you can answer a question for someone too [20:53] some linux-developer are hardliner. so they expect you are a professional linux-user. [20:54] it's just that linux was a geek system for so long, and some of it still is. We all expect new people to try to find an answer first, then ask for help. [20:55] gandalph, true but the good thing is there are so many different channels on irc that you can look around to find one your comfortable with [20:57] charlie, becker_11: your are right! I think, ubuntu is for beginners at first, but professionals can use this distribution too. ubuntu has a very good hardwaredetection and the sofwareinstallation is simple. [20:58] other distributions, you must configurate more yourself. [20:58] Ubuntu was designed from the beginning to be easy to use and to try to help people move from windows to linux. [20:59] I downloaded my first version in 2005, Ubuntu 5.04 [20:59] this is the target of their project. [20:59] iam too! [20:59] is/was [21:00] Took me three days to download it back then [21:00] easy installation and use linux-system. [21:00] yes [21:00] gandalph, ubuntu is easy to use but the best thing is that once you are more comfortable you can change things by adding or removing what you like or don't like which is the beauty of linux [21:00] Then kubuntu was added. Xubuntu was started independently in 2006 [21:01] charlie-tca, I can remember downloading an iso on dial up I left it and went to bed now I can get one in 30minutes [21:01] hihi.. [21:02] it was a nice time [21:02] becker_11: that is what I did, but it took me three nights to get it all [21:02] Then within a month, 5.10 came out and I did it again [21:03] in the year 2005 i didnt have a dsl-network. [21:03] I was on cableone. and it was fast, too! [21:03] I still shake my head at how far we have come. Now I look at 150meg files and call them small and I have a 1Tb drive sitting on my desk .... [21:03] I know [21:04] hoary 5.04 was good, but the dist-upgrade was horrible with my modem. [21:04] I bought my first system with a whopping 65MB hard drive, and they said I threw my money away on it, because it would never fill up [21:04] that upgrade is why I downloaded the iso and installed again [21:04] :-) [21:04] hahaha my first comp had 40mg ... now patches are 10x bigger than that [21:05] yup :-) [21:05] my first real comp my parents bought it was a commodore 128D [21:06] my first laptop was a black/white-screen, 80 mb hdd, 4 mb ram [21:06] Hey, commodore was a good system. I upgraded from my c-64 to a 128 [21:06] my mate had the C64 with the tape drive [21:06] gandalph: was that the suitcase laptop? [21:07] I still my cassette drive [21:07] my/have my/ [21:07] wikipedia says it had 128k of ram in 2 64k chips [21:07] c-64? [21:07]