[00:01] yep, that line is purposely before the next, which does the translation [00:03] I didnt' [00:03] oops [00:03] I didn't paste the full paste, but translate_widget(child) seems to be calling itself a few times [00:04] maybe that's related? [00:04] it's a recursive function, to translate all children, but no element should be translated more than once [00:21] woo, just did another bzr merge-package successfully [00:24] Riddell, nixternal: kdebase-workspace built too :-) [00:25] so did glew :) [00:26] yay [00:27] I think I can go to bed now [00:27] 01:27 AM here [00:27] good night everyone [00:28] going to bed before 2 in the morning? lightweight [00:28] Heh [00:39] nixternal: I'm helping out with the koffice bug cleanup, hope you don't mind [00:51] hmm, 3 is about all I can do without a working koffice :( [00:51] nixternal: bah [00:52] I just spent four hours fixing bug #505712, and now I get to rebase [00:52] Launchpad bug 505712 in glew "libglew1.5-dev package does not include pkgconfig file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/505712 [00:52] thanks! :-) [00:53] ah well, pull-lp-source it is [00:53] also, I may as well roll in the rest of the changes I have for 1.5.2 === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 1 Released! | mesa apparently fixed, 4.4 RC1 building again. Be careful out there | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01 [01:42] * claydoh wonders what our release notes for Alpha2 should be; Yay mesa is fixed! :) [01:44] * ScottK awaits the results of claydoh's genius. [01:44] will 4.4 final be in alpha2 [01:45] rc1 [01:45] ScottK genius? hah [01:48] Arghhhhh! [01:48] Riddell or JontheEchidna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.3.90-0ubuntu2/+build/1440998/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kde4libs_4:4.3.90-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:49] We'll need another kde4libs upload before we can properly get started. [01:54] ScottK: I can get a testbuild running without that file in the .install file [02:01] Riddell: I think you forgot to bzr add the knewstuff patch [02:07] ugh, where'd my lucid pbuilder go === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 2 is Soon | mesa apparently fixed, 4.4 RC1 building again. Please don't change anything that's not needed to get it build before Alpha 2 | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01 [02:20] crimsun: ooh, sorry about that, but yeah, my next step was to eventually update it with 1.5.2, but it is all yours now :) [02:22] JontheEchidna: I got a test build started, but go ahead. With your supercomputer laptop, you'll probably still finish first. [02:23] heh, it's not that fast. Just really a lot faster than my old piece of crap computer was [02:24] it was like upgrading from Big Wheels to a 3-speed normal bike [02:24] still ain't a 10-speed, but you fly in comparison [02:25] ...plus the internet is being slow so my lucid pbuilder is still downloading [02:50] OK. It's a race. [03:35] Riddell or ScottK: bug 506246 - if either of you can do the sync that would be great...fixes a bug...then I will MIR [03:35] Launchpad bug 506246 in getfem++ "Sync getfem++ 4.0.0-3 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506246 [03:36] nixternal: I can't sync any differently than you can (needs shell access). I'll ask. [03:36] oh, thought you had that [03:37] Only when I cheat [03:37] I will do the MIR tomorrow anyways, as I will probably be heading to bed shortly [03:37] like I cheat :) [03:37] ScottK: 89% [03:37] so leaving it for JR is fine, unless someone gets to it [03:37] JontheEchidna: You'll finish first. [03:37] nixternal: slangasek is doing it now. [03:38] JontheEchidna: I'm at 65% [03:38] I can build small packages...big packages killed my build machine, and this laptop comes to flames almost when I try and build anything substantial on it [03:38] Progress indicators is CMake's killer feature, aside from not sucking as hard as autotools [03:38] Not having kdelibs ship an embedded copy of libtool is nice too. [03:39] copy/fork [03:39] eww [03:39] This is why I'm reasonably certain the kdelibs build failure on armel won't get fixed. It's a sefault in the embedded libtool. [03:39] nixternal: Done [03:40] * txwikinger hands a fire extinguisher to nixternal === stalcup is now known as vorian [03:45] ScottK: thanks! [03:50] JontheEchidna: Didn't you do the last quassel upload? [03:51] the double build one [03:51] ScottK: yeah [03:51] * JontheEchidna got your lart :P [03:51] JontheEchidna: bzr branch needs updating [03:51] OK [03:51] oh, I forgot to push [03:53] all taken care of now [03:53] Thanks. [03:54] lzma still takes forever on this laptop, though at least it remains functional while it lmza's [03:54] ScottK: kde4libs finished, build was successful and list-missing was happy [03:54] JontheEchidna: OK. And you just removed the one file? [03:54] yes [03:54] OK. Here goes. [03:55] Gone. [04:26] JontheEchidna: IIRC, you're our kdeartwork FTBFS expert... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/4:4.3.90-0ubuntu1/+build/1436106/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.kdeartwork_4:4.3.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:39] ugh, with that package the buildd conditions are somehow different than a main-only pbuilder [04:44] !find /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/boing.desktop [04:44] Package/file /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/boing.desktop does not exist in karmic [04:44] !find /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/boing.desktop lucid [04:44] File /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/boing.desktop found in kscreensaver [04:44] gah! [04:44] see, it was even in the last upload [04:45] that package changes its mind at whim [04:52] Right, I knew you'd know how to solve it. [04:59] How, yes. Why it works, no [05:06] Good enough [05:07] this package seriously shouldn't have built for the past two releases [05:17] ok, this *should* fix it [05:20] I think we might be missing a few screensavers in the kscreensavers-xsavers-extra package, but I know good an well touching those at this point is a really bad idea [05:23] Not critical for Alpha 2, so don't mess with it. [05:37] JontheEchidna: Libs built on i386. Thanks for your help. I think your artwork upload is the last source upload we need to be able to build ISOs again (a bunch of retries yet). [05:38] just failed on amd64 after 20sec [05:38] (artwork) [05:38] needs workspace published [05:38] That'll be a while. [05:39] I think armel is the only arch it'll build on right now... [05:39] It can wait until tomorrow. [05:40] Oh, I see you uploaded. [05:40] Then we'll see what we get from armel. === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 2 is Soon | 4.4 RC1 building again. Please don't change anything that's not needed to get it build before Alpha 2 | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01 [05:49] nighty-night [05:54] Good night. [05:54] * ScottK is off to bed too. === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === giLL0r_ is now known as giLL0r [11:27] Any ideas where to get 30MB off the live CDs? [11:33] ScottK: use a plane and spindle arm attached to a drill. Put the cd on the arm switch on the drill gently position the plane on the extremities until you have shaved off the desired 30 meg :) [11:34] Of course [11:36] ScottK: any other duplicated libs that can be dropped? [11:37] Riddell: Thanks for getting rid of the libsensors3 dependency:-) [11:37] hunger: anything you desire sir [11:38] * jussi01 waits for hunger to exploit that sentence... :P [11:38] davmor2: We'll get rid of some when the OOo build finishes, but not nearly enough [11:38] btw, does anyone know are there any applications in the archive capable of opening .stp files? [11:39] * hunger wonders why there is a ld.so.conf in /usr/lib/mesa. [11:39] where do i see what gets on the live CDs? [11:42] i noticed i have 40 MB worth of /usr/share/doc/*/copyright files, but of course they're smaller when compressed in a .deb [11:45] al: You mean like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-i386.manifest [11:45] ScottK: yep, thanks [11:46] we have a legal obligation to carry those [11:47] yea but maybe there's other stuff in doc/ like examples/ that could go [11:48] al: examples isn't that big and is useful for testing though [11:49] 4 MB on my installation [11:49] with packages from that manifest [11:49] /usr/share/doc$ while read PKG REST; do [ -d $PKG/examples ] && echo $PKG/examples; done < /tmp/lucid-desktop-i386.manifest | xargs du -hsc | tail -n 1 [11:49] 4.2M total === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [12:10] Will lucid enable nepomuk by default? virtuoso seems to be in the repos now, but does not seem to get installed by kubuntu-desktop yet. [12:11] hunger: it's waiting on a main inclusion review, must poke pitti about that [12:11] great! [12:13] dpm: do you know a way to convert from translations in .desktop files to a translated .po file? [12:25] Riddell, intltool does that [12:26] i.e. extract translations from the.desktop file and create a .pot file [12:27] dpm: ah but that's not what I asked [12:27] I want to make a .po file with translations [12:27] not a template [12:27] Riddell, oh, I see, sorry, now I see what you mean. [12:28] it's not normally done in that direction so I don't know if it's possible with intltool or other scripts [12:32] Riddell, I've asked danilo to come here when he's ready with his call. He's the co-maintainer of intltool and might be able to better help. [12:53] freinhard: did anyone look at your opensync packages? [12:55] freinhard: strigi is compiled in the PPA if you want to test it === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [12:57] Riddell: thx for strigi, already tested, one segfault gone, found the next one ;) [12:57] Riddell: got no feedback on the opensync packages yet [12:57] hmm, I think we maybe shouldn't have strigi on by default [12:58] freinhard: what needs testing with opensync? do I need fancy devices? [12:58] freinhard: presumably this shouldn't go in the main archive [12:58] Riddell: it's just about the packaging it's self. opensync 0.39 isn't considered to be stable by it's developers. i just packaged it since i couldn't sync my cell phone with opensync 0.22 [12:59] (and maybe this get's more testers and a earlier release of 0.40 ;) ) [12:59] new stable opensync has been a long time in coming [13:01] freinhard: you'll report that new strigi issue upstream? [13:05] hi [13:05] Riddell, dpm tells me you are interested in extracting translations from .desktop files with intltool [13:05] Riddell, could you ask your question again? I'm sure danilos will be able to help [13:06] Riddell: already reported [13:08] 12:13 < Riddell> dpm: do you know a way to convert from translations in .desktop files to a translated .po file? [13:08] danilos: currently we download desktop .po files from upstream but that isn't entirely reliable or complete [13:09] Riddell, so, intltool doesn't support extracting translations from .desktop files [13:09] we generate the .pot files from .desktop files in the packages, but not the .po files [13:09] Riddell, i.e. so this is not where intltool can help [13:10] danilos: do you know anything that can do it? [13:10] Riddell, it shouldn't be too hard to write a script that would support this though [13:10] Riddell, it might be worth checking if there isn't already something in translate-toolkit [13:10] or po4a [13:11] danilos: ok I'll look at those [13:12] danilos: also what is the status, if anything, of the upstream langpacks to ubuntu langpacks comparison QA tool? [13:12] Riddell, that's my main priority for this week so we can have the results by the end of it [13:12] Riddell, sorry it didn't get done sooner, my health didn't really allow it for the last few weeks [13:15] danilos: oh great, so long as it hasn't been forgotten [13:15] Riddell, also, it might be quicker if you just wrote a quick script for extracting translations yourself [13:15] Riddell, oh, not at all [13:16] I might be able to adept KDE's createdesktopcontext.pl script [13:19] danilos, if you are working on the langpacks comparison, the uploaded tarballs are now here: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/kde-l10n/ [13:19] dpm, yeah, found them :) [13:20] dpm, btw, where did you get them? (I know there are links somewhere in package build pages, but I can never find those pages when I need them :) [13:20] dpm, (just to check if there hasn't been any later upload since Dec 24th) [13:22] danilos, I first built them myself, but I realised that for some packages the translations were fetched directly from kde's 'stable' svn and would not be the same ones as the uploaded ones. I then used a LP API script from pitti to get the LP librarian upload URL, and finally I just fetched them. Let me point you to the script... [13:23] dpm, ah, cool, thanks [13:24] danilos, here's the script -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~arnegoetje/+junk/translation-tarballs [13:24] dpm, I think the easiest ones to compare will be sr@latin and uz@cyrillic because those can't get any changes in LP [13:25] dpm, ta [13:26] dpm, ah, yeah, and ca@valencia as well (there's another KDE @locale, can't remember it just now) [13:28] Riddell: asac basically said that the kde integration patch has to be broken down into seperate patches that fix specific integration bugs [13:29] otherwise mozilla probably won't approve the firefox package [13:29] danilos, the Lucid uploads for the 4.3.85 snapshot did not seem to contain any of the @locales, so you might want to start with the karmic uploads [13:29] not sure why suse got it approved though [13:29] dpm, right [13:30] dpm, are they maybe inside other generic language codes? [13:30] danilos, no, I noticed that the 4.3.85 tag there were a few languages missing, let me check again... [13:30] debfx: might be worth having him ask mozilla directory what the deal is [13:32] dpm: We're at 4.3.90 now, so perhaps worth a recheck. [13:32] good point ScottK, thanks. [13:33] danilos, perhaps I can look at uploading new tarballs for the 4.3.90 uploads tomorrow [13:33] http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.3.90/kde-l10n/ looks better in terms of languages than http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.3.85/kde-l10n/ [13:35] dpm, right, at the moment, I just care to confirm that we've got a superset of translations in ubuntu compared to last package upload, and I want to make it a tool that makes it easy to compare in the future as well [13:35] dpm, so, @ languages are good because there shouldn't be any changes in them [13:36] dpm, but, I can test those for karmic for now [13:37] danilos, yeah, I think for now karmic might be the best bet, since upstream translations are stable and if the tool is generic, I guess it can then be used for Lucid comparison without much change [13:37] ScottK, Riddell, dpm: changelog on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-l10n-sr/4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic2 confuses me a bit though: wasn't change from i18n to l10n done in 4.0? [13:37] dpm, right, that's my point [13:38] danilos: Yes, but there are people that have the old packages still installed due to upgrades [13:38] danilos: the last bits of kde-i18n (kdewebdev) got moved to kde-l10n recently [13:38] ScottK, ah, right, so it was about changing a "Replaces:" line or something like that [13:38] Yes [13:38] so we added the replaces and kde-i18n will die [13:39] ok, thanks, now it's clearer :) [13:39] danilos, also, you'll find more info and the links to the relevant kde translation branches at [13:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/KDE/KubuntuTranslationsLifecycle and [13:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/KDE [13:41] Riddell: he also said that we'd have to actively work on getting these patches into mozilla trunk [13:53] rbelem: welcome along [13:53] thanks Riddell :-) [13:53] rbelem here is working on Ubuntu Liquid, which is a project using Plasma Mobile to make a variant for small form factor devices without accelaration [13:57] Hello rbelem [13:57] hi ScottK :-) [14:00] here the wiki page about liquid https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/UbuntuLiquid [14:00] any help would be greatly appreciated [14:00] :-) [14:04] that's pretty neat [14:07] rbelem: btw, in KDE 4.4 the regular device manager plasmoid has mounting capabilities built in so mountoid will probably not be needed [14:07] JontheEchidna, cool! [14:08] screenie: http://imagebin.ca/view/m_zmPD.html [14:08] we should decide if we want to turn that on or not [14:09] * Riddell wonders what "share this widget on a network" does [14:10] JontheEchidna, probably there more things that must be updated in the wiki [14:10] Riddell: remote plasma, let's say another desktop in your home network can show that plasma [14:11] Riddell: so collect all network access logs to one desktop in plasma widgets (: [14:12] Tm_T: over what protocol? [14:13] ^I seem to remember it being zeroconf or something, could be wrong [14:13] Riddell: I don't know what plasma does use for that [14:14] + wlan0 IPv4 Device Notifier on wido _plasma._tcp local [14:15] it there a "not" for "find . -name filename.ext"? (result should be any file except filename.ext [14:17] freinhard: probably needs regex [14:19] Riddell: "man find" states that it matches "shell pattern" no idea if that can be done with a shell pattern [14:19] don't think so [14:20] you can also do find . | grep -v filename.ext [14:20] but usually that's hard to feed into rm because of whitespaces and other chars that need escaping [14:21] find . -type f | grep -v filename.ext | xargs rm [14:23] nice! thank you! [14:24] should have read the xargs man page a long time ago ;) [14:26] freinhard: your opensync package is lacking the python bindings that the current version has, is that deliberate? [14:26] Riddell: there are no python bindings for opensync 0.39 [14:27] fair enough [14:27] * ScottK suggests perhaps an opensync-ng package [14:27] upstream's website seems pretty insistent that it's not for general use [14:28] seems we need the ipodslave package for iPhone support in Karmic, any idea where I can find it? [14:29] Mamarok: Amarok in question? [14:29] Riddell: Which is why I think a separate package with lots of scary warnings is the most we should provide. [14:30] Mamarok: I have vauge recollections of that from years ago, didn't it die? [14:30] Mamarok: ipodslave is an old kde3 utility that no longer works in kde4 [14:30] i guess almost everything could be installed in parallel, because 0.22 ships libopensync0 and 0.39 libopensync1 [14:30] the only thing that might overlap is the /usr/lib/libopensync.so symlink [14:30] freinhard: COPYING in libopensync-plugin-file is GPL 2 but source files say LGPL 2 (that's not critical, you can upgrade LGPL to GPL but would be good to get upstream to sort that out) [14:31] Riddell: well, apparently it is needed for iPod Touch and the iPhone in Kubuntu, only distro where those two devices are not mountable [14:31] seems the others have it [14:31] if I understood the various forum threads correctly [14:32] well my packages weren't intended for mainstream use, just for those having problems with 0.22 or willing to test 0.39 [14:32] I can only find old stuff from Gutsy so far [14:33] freinhard: I don't think they need to be co-installable. I'd imagine people would only need one or the other. [14:34] freinhard: libopensync-plugin-xmlformat misses a copy of the LGPL [14:37] ScottK: as far as i've read on the wiki the complete libopensync api is new. so if there are any programms linking to that oldlib, that might be an issue. [14:37] So give your -dev package a different name so that doesn't happen by accident [14:38] freinhard: packging looks good apart from those licencing issues, can you report those upstream? [14:38] Riddell: i reported it on irc, if i don't get a response i'll file a bug or two. [14:38] thanks === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 2 is Soon | 4.4 RC1 built on i386, almost there on amd64. | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01 === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Main frozen for Lucid Alpha 2 | 4.4 RC1 built on i386, almost there on amd64. | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to jussi01 [14:56] just checked the todo. i vote for kaffeine :) got myself a dvb-s2 reciever. built the driver. plugged in, fired up kaffeine, works. no crash ever since then. [14:57] * jussi01 loves it that he gets congrats from the channel topic everyday :D rock on :) [15:00] Anyone using lucid amd64 in karmic virtualbox? [15:01] I get as far as choosing whether I want to install or boot from cd, then I get stuck [15:01] ScottK: the -dev package is called libopensync1-dev (vs libopensync0-dev) so there shouldn't be a problem. [15:02] agateau: this is an install or from an ISO? [15:02] Riddell: from an iso [15:02] agateau: daily ISOs won't work yet, it's all still building [15:02] Riddell: oh [15:03] Riddell: should I install from alpha1 then? [15:03] agateau: that's the last known working ISO, or wait a few hours and maybe we'll have an alpha 2 candidate to test (or maybe not) [15:03] Riddell: ok thanks [15:19] agateau, Riddell: latest updates broke KStatusNotifierItems, they're all KSystemTrayIcons now :( [15:20] JontheEchidna: are you still running the same session as before update? [15:20] agateau: is restarting plasma-desktop enough? [15:20] JontheEchidna: no, you need to restart kded4 [15:20] kk === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:25] all better after a reboot [15:25] good [15:26] "The release of Kaffeine 1.0 is delayed for personal reasons (and I don't really want to release a half-baked version). The new target date is 1st August, stay tuned and thanks for your understanding." hmm, that's a long time away, guess we'll be using dragon === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:28] Riddell: or http://bangarangkde.wordpress.com/ and switch again next release? [15:28] * Lure hides ;-) [15:30] none of them can use dvb-c|s|t sticks [15:30] I thought that was a music player [15:30] ..besides kaffeine [15:30] Riddell: it plays video clips too [15:30] Riddell: but not really in kaffeine level [16:11] Riddell: re kcm-touchpad, it was rejected for a debian/copyright issue. Is this better? http://pastebin.com/f3469793c [16:12] JontheEchidna: that looks good (assuming it's an accurate reflection) [16:12] oh, there's a new upstream release now. I'll update the packge and upload it [16:18] heh, it was released in the past hour in fact [16:36] Riddell: kcm-touchpad is in new [16:39] Yay, kdm works again! [16:39] \o/ === verbalshadow_ is now known as verbalshadow [16:55] genii: what happened? [16:56] glatzor: JontheEchidna's wiki update reminds me that packagekit is due to be updated to 0.5, would that be something to look at once alpha 2 is out? [16:57] Riddell: I'm on 10.04, was having to "sudo start kdm" until after todays updates [16:58] that's promising [16:59] is service the new blessed way of starting and stopping things [17:00] someone in #kubuntu was telling me that /etc/init.d was telling them that they shouldn't use that but sudo service [17:00] or just use upstart commands [17:01] yeah. start and stop work now too [17:01] sudo start kdm [17:01] sudo stop kdm [17:01] Oh [17:01] hmm [17:01] ok [17:02] is that bashified so I can say sudo start and get a list of services? [17:02] I'm on a mac now so I can't check [17:02] Work machine [17:03] btw rc1 works fine guys good work [17:03] :) [17:03] Nepomuk? [17:03] havent checked [17:03] :) [17:03] i will test later i hope so [17:08] agateau: should gwenview share its ratings and comments with dolphin? [17:09] Riddell: yes [17:09] nepomku ftw! [17:13] agateau: hmm, they seem not to here [17:13] Riddell: gwenview may require a restart to see updated nepomuk info from Dolphin [17:13] (need to fix that) [17:14] Dolphin should see the changes from Gwenview as soon as they are done [17:17] Riddell: it does [17:18] alteroo: what does? [17:19] Dolphin and gwenview sharing. I haven't tried gwenview and dolphin open at the same time but certainly one then the other in any order shows up [17:20] alteroo: karmic or lucid? [17:20] karmic right now [17:20] me too, curious [17:20] ratings sharing works here too in lucid [17:21] Riddell: which nepomuk backend? [17:22] agateau: virtuoso [17:22] mmm should work fine according to sebastien trueg [17:23] I have yet to test it though [17:23] (hopefully tonight) [17:23] is there a way to see what's in the nepomuk database? I expect I'd need to write sparql or something scary [17:23] Riddell: you can start with nepomuksearch:/ in Gwenview or Nepomuk [17:24] getting deeper will probably need sparql indeed [17:55] anyone having issues getting strigi to working, i have virtuoso ( and driver) installed. enabled then in systemsettings and it flutters between indexing, no service in desktop file, idle , and finally stops on service not running. i deleted my ~/.kde/share/config/nepomukserverrc & ~/.kde/share/config/nepomukstrigirc files and after that deleted ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ in hopes that would fix it [17:55] what i'm i missing [18:01] verbalshadow: it doesn't seem to be in a great mood for most people, usually is keep indexing even when you don't want it to [18:02] :( [18:03] hrmm, looks like in lucid we have the ubuntu splash thing [18:03] alpha 2 candidates for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20100112.3/ [18:03] oh wow, I am having some craziness with lucid...going into kdm I get either the "out of range" message on my monitor, or my monitor goes all war games like [18:04] and that ubuntu splash is messed up [18:06] * JontheEchidna begins iso download [18:07] does the iso have updated kde4 JontheEchidna ? [18:08] if so, I will probably just go that route instead of trying to fix this one [18:08] .manifest says yes [18:08] verbalshadow: Do you have the strigi process running? [18:08] hrmm, why am I getting xx_XX.UTF-8... done messages on update? [18:09] nixternal: presumably some locale installed [18:09] never saw that before...just noticed it on my netbook [18:11] alteroo no i don't [18:12] verbalshadow: you have nepomuk server [18:12] anyone done an upgrade on lucid yet? [18:12] not recently [18:12] hrmm, I wonder if plymouth is messing me up here on my desktop [18:12] alteroo yes and stub [18:13] I can't get to KDM, my machine just freezes [18:13] then again, I wonder if that might be due to some sort of hardware failure, as it is my build box and it does seem to be dying [18:13] verbalshadow: do you have ratings working in Dolphin? [18:14] alteroo no errors when i star [18:14] yowsers, I am getting all of the language-pack-kde packages [18:14] verbalshadow: what does that mean? [18:14] agateau: what's the magic command for using zsync on ISOs? [18:15] Riddell: zsync http:// [18:15] have to go [18:16] alteroo it means that i gave a file a rating without error and i checked the rating remains after closing are restarting dolphin [18:17] bbs [18:17] ah right :) can you see that rating in something else? [18:37] alteroo yes gwenview can see it [18:39] verbalshadow: ok cool So that works fine [18:43] alteroo i'm at a complete loss :( [18:44] verbalshadow: strigi and tags are a little broken now [18:44] Which virtuoso are you using? [18:45] alteroo the one in lucid's repos [18:45] Riddell: which one is that? 5.0.12 or 6.0.1 rc ? [18:49] alteroo 5.0.12 is what it shows me [18:51] only 5.0.12 has any chance of working [18:56] 6.0.1 rc was tried and it's broken/ [18:56] ? [19:09] it didn't work [19:09] bleah. Errors? [19:11] dunno [19:11] there's packages in a PPA [19:12] yeah ok [19:12] I'll try it later [19:17] Riddell: what is needed for a plymouth splash for Kubuntu? [19:18] nixternal: I don't know, we need to talk to keybuk about it [19:18] roger that [19:18] who is buying lunch? I am quite hungry right now [19:19] sorry, I finished my hoummous [19:19] nixternal: the first person to say who is buying lunch? [19:19] nice try, but I am broke :( [19:20] finished current daily install, worked like a champ [19:21] why do we have kglobal notices like mad? [19:21] by default [19:21] who knows, not our doing [19:21] nixternal: please fill in iso.qa.ubuntu.com [19:21] Riddell: doing so now :) [19:22] nixternal: was that amd64 or i386? [19:22] amd64 [19:23]