[00:01] paulsomebody: i downloaded it but i dont know how t ouse [00:01] PEPPINO: Downloaded what source tarball or binary? [00:02] hi [00:02] PEPPINO: If it's *.tar.gz then it is source package. [00:02] !hi | baxeico_ [00:02] baxeico_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines . Enjoy your stay! [00:02] paulsomebody: source [00:02] sakoman_: im workind in the directory [00:02] I upgraded yesterday to KDE 4.3.4 from backports [00:03] plasma and kwin seems way slower than before (4.3.2) [00:03] aperson: 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file modules/misc/notify/notify.c [00:03] i'm using nvidia binary driver [00:03] aperson: this is the error I have using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc [00:03] e.g. if I toggle the plasma dashboard it take about 5 seconds to show up [00:04] PEPPINO: If you are new to GNU/Linux it is probably not the best idea to compile packages youself. Are you sure this is necessary? [00:04] and i see Xorg using 90% cpu in between [00:04] somebody else noticed some problem after upgrade to 4.3.4? [00:05] paulsomebody: I have already compiled it and it work fine..... the only think i m not able to do is to generate a .deb file [00:05] PEPPINO: I have never debianized packages myself. [00:06] I've only done it with checkistall [00:06] which works pretty well for me [00:06] paulsomebody: I saw in the INSTALL FILE THAT IT SHOULD BE POSSIBILE and so i tried [00:06] aperson: whichh is the command string [00:06] PEPPINO: Of course that is possible. No need to shout. [00:07] PEPPINO: If you still have source you can do 'make uninstall' in the source directory. Works the same way as 'make install'. [00:07] PEPPINO: At least I think so. [00:08] is it possible to safely downgrade to 4.3.2 again from 4.3.4 backports? [00:08] paulsomebody: yes you are right but i prefer to remove the source directory...it is too big [00:09] aperson: are you still there [00:09] PEPPINO: If you want to remove it cleanly you could download it again if it is not too much traffic. [00:09] PEPPINO, yessir [00:09] aperson: Sir? [00:10] aperson: how can i use checkinstall [00:10] aperson: thanks for the sir [00:10] PEPPINO, ./configure; make; checkinstall [00:10] PEPPINO, just use it in place of make install === szadek_ is now known as Szadek [00:11] anyone upgraded to 4.3.4 backports from 4.3.2 using nvidia binary driver? [00:11] aperson: which should be the result? [00:12] PEPPINO, well, it'd build the package and install it [00:12] aperson: a .deb package? [00:12] PEPPINO, yep. [00:12] aperson: ohhhhhhhhhhh [00:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall [00:13] aperson: i dont beleave it [00:13] ok guys, I'll go to sleep. I'll try again tomorrow to poke you here [00:13] belief is not neccessary for something to exist [00:15] paulsomebody: thanks for your time [00:15] aperson: im trying [00:15] baxeico_: You could also post on the forums. [00:16] baxeico_: ubuntuforums.org [00:18] thanks [00:18] goodnight [00:22] sziasztok [00:23] Beszél valaki itt magyarul? === javier_ is now known as Toru [00:23] hey did anyone just recently start having problems with flash and sound? [00:24] define "recently" [00:24] like in the past few days [00:24] !hu | timber [00:24] timber: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál [00:24] i just started having a problem today [00:24] speak hungarian? [00:24] soulsurfer, turn up your pcm volume [00:24] that's not it [00:24] timber: Try #ubuntu-hu as the bot says [00:25] i start firefox with flash and it starts playing sound and then just stops [00:25] the video keeps playing but sound disappears [00:25] and vlc has choppy sound [00:25] where it was smooth before [00:25] are you using the latest flash? [00:25] yeah i believe so [00:25] I can't say I have any issues [00:25] unctions, but it eems like a problem I had in the past, I'm willing to bet that if flash player and vlc and mplayer start producing sound, then Amarok and KDE === Daugha|n is now known as Daughain [00:25] oops [00:26] 10.0.42.34 [00:26] is my vlc version [00:26] i mean flash [00:26] soulsurfer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:28] the amount of time before sound cuts off in flash changes as well [00:28] does anyone here have a solid understanding of the kde sound system? [00:29] I'm guessing it goes (app) -> sound server for some apps and then (app) -> phonon -> backend(xine) -> pulseaudio [00:29] is that right? [00:31] aperson: it seem to be created... thanks for your time Sir [00:31] aperson: goodnight [00:32] PEPPINO, no problem [00:32] as a side note, skype sound works which has the audio set to pulseaudio [00:32] so i guess that proves pulseaudio is working alright [00:38] ok if anyone is interested, i found 2 things out [00:38] one - the sound of flash is driven through "ALSA plug-in [firefox]" [00:39] two, I was able to get it to play smoothly by changing the Internal Audio Profile in the Volume Control of padevchooser [00:42] whoa the power management says that i have no battery inserted! [00:43] any idea why this has happened? [00:44] the driver that reads the battery information is down? [00:45] ah, i dunno how to verify that. [00:45] !scan [00:45] Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR [00:45] it was working fine, i had just left the notebook and gone to make myself some lunch! [00:46] hmm [00:46] did you try just restarting? [00:46] i returned to see that the notebook was probably in sleep and when i logged in i had to plug in power, so i thought the battery got entirely discharged [00:46] no i have not [00:47] i should not have to restart everytime i leave the notebook for about an hour! [00:48] no you shouldn't [00:48] i guess going into sleep is causing that module to close [00:49] okay, how to i restart it? [00:50] unfortunately, i dont know the module that manages battery monitoring [00:50] oh okay [00:50] np, thx [00:51] sure === root is now known as Guest23762 === jono_ is now known as jono [02:25] hi [02:38] hi peter_ [03:08] Recently, my usb drives have stopped showing up when I attach them. Can anyone offer any suggestions on why that may be or how I can fix it? [03:09] If I plugin a device and reboot it shows up properly in Dolphin. [03:22] michael____: does it work on other machines? [03:25] OK...SO...i start KStreamRipper and i put in a .pls and another with the ip address and port and all it says is BUFFERING... [03:27] ON occasion....i can get it to connect and rip....where do i start to look for a problem [03:27] Empty_foo: yes, and worked on this one as recently as last week [03:28] OK...SO...i start KStreamRipper and i put in a .pls and another with the ip address and port and all it says is BUFFERING... [03:28] ON occasion....i can get it to connect and rip....where do i start to look for a problem [03:32] OK...SO...i start KStreamRipper and i put in a .pls and another with the ip address and port and all it says is BUFFERING... [03:32] ON occasion....i can get it to connect and rip....where do i start to look for a problem [03:32] anyone have any ideas?? [03:33] semistud2354: run it from a console and see if you have any errors [03:33] what would the command be? [03:34] streamripper http://83.133.126.55:8904 [03:34] ?? [03:34] do you use streamripper [03:34] i guess KStreamRipper [03:35] i did i quick internet check and didnt find anything of value [03:37] no i never used KStreamRipper [03:38] is there anything else you use...that you would recomend...or just in general you dont use that type of program [03:38] what do you use it for? [03:39] recording internet music... [03:39] ex. SHOUTCAST [03:39] that ip address... [03:39] its to a radio station... [03:39] listen to it...if you like techno [03:39] its good === darren is now known as A3K_One [03:40] but besides that...im having trouble trying to get this darn program to connect to the server... [03:40] Can someone help me troubleshoot an audio problem? [03:41] if i said....SWITCH TO WINDOWS...how fast would i get booted from the server...lol [03:41] just curous [03:41] semistud2354: i read that audacity works, also amarok(but guess you cant listen while recording) [03:42] amarok 2 [03:42] I just moved to kubuntu karmic, and I can't for the life of me get audio multiplexing between apps. Tried with/without pulseaudio, installing different alsa flavors...still locked to one app [03:42] really!!! is it a plugin [03:42] whichever app takes control of sound first has control [03:43] A3K_One: i guess also first [03:43] A3K_One: alsa [03:44] semistud2354: maybe you can find a newer version of streamriper? [03:44] I have alsa installed :/ [03:45] nobody? [03:46] semistud2354: also check out StreamJacker, Icecream, [03:46] A3K_One: what is audio multiplexing? [03:47] sharing the audio output device with multiple apps ie: program x/y/z all have the ability to play audio at the same time. [03:48] as it is, I launch program X and then Y, only X has audio. [03:48] I had this problem with an old release of Ubuntu, and just removed pulse and it fixed it [03:50] A3K_One: im on kde, but not ubuntu, and multiplexing works [03:51] A3K_One: probably configs messed up [03:52] real world example: I have dual monitors. If I want to play MMORPG in one and youtube vid in the other, only the first app has audio [03:53] or streaming radio and another app tries to use sound it does not work, [03:56] A3K_One: check this http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/AlsaSharing [04:00] HOw about tftp, ilumi? [04:02] I keeo getting "sendto: invalid argument" error, anythoughts? [04:05] Anyone? [04:05] Daughain: hello [04:06] Heya, titan_ark [04:06] errors? i have one too :P [04:06] :P [04:07] What ya got, titan_ark ? [04:07] power management says there is no battery [04:07] Uplug it? [04:07] Or, shut it down and unplug, then reboot? [04:08] it was unplugged and when i came back saw it in sleep and this error and no battery, plugged in and it still says no battery. [04:08] plugged out now and its working but says no battery :P [04:08] dint reboot cos i wanted to chk if i could find someone to help me sort out the problem w/o rebooting [04:08] Daughain: u using tftp from a command line? [04:09] ilumi: I didnt know there was another wAY TO DO SO. =) [04:09] Sorry. [04:09] titan_ark: Try a full reboot. [04:09] Daughain: invalid argument probably means the command isnt typed up right [04:10] ilumi: I'm running out of ways to type the command. =) And, the one way that is getting anything, bears no relation to the commands according to the man page. [04:11] Daughain: hmmm i can do that, but i dont want to be rebooting every time the notebook goes into sleep :P [04:11] titan_ark: Disable sleep. :P The reason I'm suggesting it is to find out if the issue involves the sleep mode, or not. If you ave a battery after full reboot, that helps narrow down where the problem may lie. :P [04:11] Daughain: whats the command u are using? [04:12] get : [04:12] Daughain: hmm okay shall do [04:12] tada [04:12] * Daughain chuckles... [04:13] ilumi: get : [04:14] you mean tftp get [04:14] No, tftp command puts you into the command interface for tftp, once there you execute your command. [04:14] ok [04:15] ilumi: You need to quit from tftp interface to get back to normal command line. [04:15] try putting the ip into the tftp [04:16] tftp [options] [host [port] [04:16] then [04:16] get filename [04:17] Daughain: back after a reboot and it says 98% battery! [04:17] ilumi: Thats the 'connect' command, and, it doesnt work properly. I input an IP, then use the get command (since I am accessing a windows box) get C:\ and it tells me C: isnt a host. [04:17] titan_ark: Now put it to sleep mode manually. [04:17] Give it 5 min, then wake it up again. [04:18] ilumi: It requires me to manually input the IP on each 'get'. [04:18] wokay [04:18] titan_ark: This is called testing. :P [04:18] lol okay [04:18] tada [04:18] I am having problems with kubuntu on my pc. [04:19] Macintosher: State ya prob. =) [04:20] Every 10 minutes, a window keeps poping up saying I have been rick rolled and I did a clean install today, and it still gives me that problem. [04:21] Macintosher: "rick rolled'??? [04:21] Yes, Like that prank people pull all the time. [04:21] I gots no clue what ya are talking about [04:22] Daughain: i dont see anywhere that says you can do what you are doing, but dont know [04:22] Ok, now I have a lot of packages for kubuntu on one cd and after installing the google chrome package i have, it starts giving me this problem. [04:22] ilumi: ??? As in connect to a windows box, or use the command line I am using? [04:23] Macintosher: Remove google chrome? [04:23] Daughain: to use get the way you are using [04:23] No, I do that and it still does that rick roll thing. [04:23] I think the one I doenloaded was infected. [04:24] ilumi: If it was working, I wouldnt be worried.=) I cant seem to get it to work using the dirs from the man page......This is the closest I can come to getting it to connect.=( And, I need the sucker working for an install. =( [04:24] Daughain: it says no battery now! [04:24] Macintosher: You can try cleaning out any folders and files left over from the chrome install manually. [04:25] in fact it sent me back into sleep again! [04:25] I tried that and it still does that rick roll thing. [04:25] Daughain: maybe try to specify the port if you know which port [04:25] whats up guys [04:25] titan_ark: Ok, so now we know the sleep function is the issue, right? CHeck and see if sleep uses the swap partition like hibernate does. [04:25] sup sup [04:26] is there a command line script for cleaning junk files and memory? [04:26] or a program? [04:26] ilumi: Ya...Dunno the port though. =( [04:26] Roasted: Morning. [04:26] I actually instaid usually try to clean it out myself. [04:26] Macintosher: Ok, see if ilumi has any ideas for ya. [04:26] Daughain: how do i do that? esp cos this is a wubi install! [04:26] I think kleansweep might be able to help in the junk files dept. [04:26] so tempted to install kubuntu on my rig again [04:26] mandriva is giving me a headache [04:27] Daughain: hey i guess you are a bit tied down with your issue, il wait a while [04:27] teage: you mean in ram? [04:27] kleansweep, thanks [04:27] titan_ark: wubi?? windows may be the culprit then. I'm really not familiar with how wubi works, other than I know it uses windows functions for a lot of things, rather than the linux ones. [04:28] ilumi> i guess, i want to clean everything. [04:28] and maybe free up some memory [04:29] Daughain: ah okay. the only reason i used wubi was cos every time something gets screwed up, i dont want to end up doing too much housekeeping [04:29] teage: you shouldnt mess with ram, you can do apt-get autoclean to clean some unused files, thats all i know [04:29] any idea if there is a wubi channel :P [04:29] Ok, so is anyone going to help with this rick roll thing i mentioned earlier? [04:29] titan_ark: windows may be the reason everything keeps getting screwed up. =) You are still relying on windows for your linux install. Set up a part, and do a true dual boot, if you really need to keep windows. [04:30] ilumi> i had read somewhere for a script for just that (ram) and i just cant for the life of me find it. I have used it before. Have had no issues . [04:31] Daughain: i need it for certain reasons/ applications. the last time i did dual boot i had so many driver issues and was bugged restoring and reinstalling irritating windows [04:31] well [04:32] thanks for the help guys [04:32] teage: linux does the memory management, no need for a script [04:32] titan_ark: I can understand that, but dont know what to say. I keep an XP machine for the few things that do *not* run in linux, and will never be ported for it. [04:32] and still nobuddy's helping me? [04:33] Macintosher: I did, to the extent that I could. :P [04:33] Daughain: yeah, i know, but cant afford the luxury of 2 boxes :( [04:34] power management says it runs a daemon called power devil, can i just restart it? [04:34] can i talk to ilumi please [04:34] Macintosher: whats the problem? [04:34] titan_ark: Find a cheap $100 Pent M like I did for windows. =) [04:35] titan_ark: You can try just restartinbg power devil and see if that solves the issue, yeah. [04:35] Daughain: $100 is quite a bit for an unemployed grad student like me :'( [04:35] how do i restart it? [04:36] hoping i dont get slashed for thi sn00bness [04:36] titan_ark: I'm currently an unemployed mechanic, I traded for that system, and had to rebuild this one since the OS had crashed when I bought it. =) [04:37] titan_ark: Ummm......This wil prly require sudo , but it should be sudo stop [04:38] Daughain: whoa nice :) [04:38] hmm will try [04:39] titan_ark: Google dbusdaemon and see if thats it. [04:41] titan_ark: I gotta h=go for a bit.....If ya dont have it figgered out when I get back, I'll see what I can do to help.=) [04:42] Daughain: sure shall check [04:42] ah okay :) [04:42] tc [05:04] damn, no one with suggetsions on restartig daemons :P [05:05] whats up? [05:07] ilumi: my power managemnt says that i have no battery everytime the notebook goes into sleep [05:07] i just thought i could restart the powerdevil daemin [05:08] do a locate service [05:08] but either i am doing it wrong, or something is wrong :P [05:08] am a n00b! [05:08] type in console locate service [05:08] could you please be a lil more elaborate? [05:08] oki [05:09] whoa huge list [05:09] ok, [05:10] go to your sbin/ and see if there is a file or script called service [05:10] i found this: /usr/share/kde4/services/powerdevilconfig.desktop in the result of locate service [05:11] thats not it [05:11] ah [05:11] amit@ubuntu:~$ ps -ef | grep powerdevil [05:11] amit 2955 1695 0 20:54 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kcmshell4 [kdeinit] powerdevilconfig [05:11] amit 2960 1 0 20:55 ? 00:00:02 /usr/bin/khelpcenter help:/kcontrol/powerdevil/index.html [05:11] amit 3057 1695 0 21:05 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kcmshell4 [kdeinit] powerdevilconfig [05:11] amit 3081 2777 0 21:11 pts/2 00:00:00 grep --color=auto powerdevil [05:11] titan_ark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:11] does this help? [05:12] ah sorry [05:12] go to your /sbin/ folder and see if there is a file or script called service [05:12] okay [05:12] in a min [05:13] ilumi: sorry, but what is its path? [05:13] there are any prog like googe earth but with true satelites??? [05:13] got it [05:13] in console do cd /sbin/ [05:14] then ls s* [05:14] or just open the file manager, go to root aka / then sbin [05:14] no, there is nothing as service [05:15] ilumi: yes, that way i can see service [05:16] so from that directory do sudo service servicename restart [05:17] powerdevil: unrecognized service [05:17] that is what it throws at me [05:17] probably has a different name? [05:18] wont "ps -ef | grep powerdevil" give its process id? [05:18] if it existed [05:18] ? [05:18] open system monitor, and see what the name of it is [05:21] there is nothing by the name power! [05:22] i can see a kcmshell4 process when i search for the keyword "power" [05:22] that is it [05:22] well if you have the id, just match the id with namw [05:22] name [05:23] it does not show any id [05:23] will top help? [05:23] in terminal? [05:23] top is the same as system monitor [05:24] ok, but the gui does not show the pid [05:24] just right click on top of the columns and select show pid [05:24] ah :P [05:26] yes, i can see that kcmshell having same pid as when i did the ps -ef | grep powerdevil command [05:27] titan_ark: maybe the powerdevil isnt started, thats why it shows no battery [05:27] oh [05:27] so how can i start it? [05:28] just type powerdevil in console and see what happens [05:28] command nt found [05:28] type locate devil [05:29] i can see quite a few things [05:29] do i pastebin it? [05:29] sure [05:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/355346/ [05:32] try alt +f2 and powerdevil [05:33] nothing [05:33] that's now how you start powerdevil [05:33] there is a power management [05:33] xjjk: how do i do it? [05:34] titan_ark: check power management first [05:34] everytime i go into sleep it says no battery [05:34] AFAIK if nothing is there, then powerdevil isn't working [05:34] but to start/stop powerdevil [05:34] go to System Settings > Service Manager [05:34] under "Startup Services" you'll see Powerdevil [05:36] i cant see Service manager in System in settings [05:36] titan_ark: it may be under advanced [05:36] yes i see it. [05:36] it says power devil is running [05:37] xjjk: do you know the service name for powerdevil? [05:37] ilumi: it's called "Power Devil" in KDE"s service manager; I don't know what it's called outside [05:37] it's sort of a pain to work without the GUI, since it's not a normal daemon but a dbus desktop session thing [05:38] titan_ark: what did stuff in the power management applet look like [05:38] i did a stop and start but no change === mike is now known as Guest98203 [05:39] xjjk: it says everything is okay, just that number of batteries = 0 [05:39] titan_ark: that implies there's a problem with HAL somewhere [05:39] not KDE [05:39] ah [05:39] titan_ark: on the command-line, type "acpi" [05:39] you may also need to install that application; sudo aptitude install acpi to do that [05:39] yeah i need to install it === mike is now known as Guest78579 [05:40] okay done [05:41] acpi gives no result but [05:41] titan_ark: it should, that's a low-level tool [05:41] titan_ark: try acpi -b just to be sure [05:41] I get: [05:41] $ acpi -b [05:41] Battery 0: Unknown, 78% [05:41] you should too [05:42] xjjk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:42] it says command not founf [05:42] titan_ark: er, check if you installed it correctly [05:43] did it again, says it is installed, but why dies not ask a Y/N before the install? [05:43] oh the command not found was because of a missing space, did acpi -b and still no result [05:44] titan_ark: it tends to ask y/n only when it's pulling in more packages than you specified, or something like that [05:44] or if packages are not signed [05:44] ok [05:44] titan_ark: OK, so, time to go more low-level [05:44] heh, okay [05:44] bring it on :P [05:45] titan_ark: what brand laptop is this? [05:45] its an HP [05:45] titan_ark: open a terminal, go to /sys/class/power_supply [05:46] what do you see there? you should see AC and BAT0 [05:46] i just see AC [05:46] hrm, that's bad [05:46] so, it appears to be a kernel/driver problem [05:46] it doesn't detect a battery at all [05:46]