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AhmuckXsession: unable to launch "/usr/bin/startldxe" X session --- "/usr/bin/startldxe" not found; falling back to default session. [okay] - Lubuntu Lucid Lynx Alpha104:37
Ahmucknew install04:37
micahgAhmuck: check #ubuntu+104:37
hggdhmicahg: what is the PPA for the mozillateam?04:38
micahghggdh: the daily one?04:38
micahghggdh: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa04:38
hggdhI need an example of a complex get-orig-source04:38
micahghggdh: you want the bzr branch then04:38
hggdhthank you04:39
* micahg thinks it's in devscripts04:40
hggdhso, should be part od ./debian/rules04:40
micahghggdh: nope04:42
* micahg is looking04:43
micahghggdh: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/mozilla-devscripts/annotate/head%3A/README04:43
hggdhah, it is included in debian/rules04:47
hggdhI mean via include <yaddayadda>04:47
hggdhinstalled. Now, to decipher it ;-)04:51
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om26erwhat status can be given to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/50551008:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 505510 in hundredpapercuts "Make random file selection easier in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Invalid]08:26
thekornom26er, hi, I don't get what this bugreport is about, multiselection with ctrl works for me in nautilus08:38
thekornom26er, anyway, this bug has no ubuntu task, so we should not really care about the status of upstream tasks08:39
LimCoreI found yet another bug in kmail09:04
LimCoreanyone uses kmail and wants to help me?09:04
LimCorekmail says invalid passphrase, wthout ever asking for the passphrase. It happens sometimes, not always09:06
persiaLimCore: Is this after doing something to fix kmail-crashes-when-passphrase-is-cancelled, or something else?09:16
LimCorepersia: no, its on another box09:31
LimCoreclean install there09:31
LimCoreand this bug happens only on that box09:31
persiaBugs that only happen on one box are extra annoying :)  I'd recommend starting by checking the package installation set: perhaps there's something affecting pinentry that's missing.09:32
LimCorehmm wait wait09:32
LimCoreno, this happens on 2 boxes09:33
LimCoreone is clean ubuntu administrated by me, other is clean box administrated by someone else09:34
LimCoreand it seems this bug is known:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/29797609:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 297976 in kdepim "kmail: cannot sign emails after upgradind to intrepid ibex" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:34
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LimCorepersia: it appears to be well confirmed bug known from 2008... :<10:02
persiaLimCore: Is it well documented, or just well complained?10:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 297976 in kdepim "kmail: cannot sign emails after upgradind to intrepid ibex" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:03
LimCorepersia: we will try now both workarounds there and inform does they work or not etc10:04
persiaI'm not sure that more confirmation of the workarounds helps.10:05
persiaI think the right answer is to find some way to make sure any necessary initialisation is occuring appropriately.10:05
LimCorepersia: I can contribute some amount of testing; Could seomeone point me thought to explanatinon how exacly openpgp works, like, which application is execute to sign (or kamil internally?) how to debug that, who is storing passphrase, how to debu that, and so on10:06
persiaI'd recommend starting with the pinentry-qt documentation to try to get that info.10:08
LimCoreanother coworker have this problem10:08
* LimCore is so embarassed10:08
LimCoressh -X appears to be causing this,  then you have to execute the php agent by hand. Perhaps kmail autostarting pgp agent if it is not running would be helpfull10:18
Kermiacmorning/evening everyone :) Does anyone think bug 506260 is due to hal deprecation in lucid?10:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 506260 in hal "hald-probe-input assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/hal/hald-probe-input: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x080492f9 ***" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50626010:22
seb128Kermiac, can't be say from a quick look, the bug has been retraced and somebody needs to look at the code10:31
seb128it's a real bug though10:31
Kermiacok, ty seb128 :)10:31
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arykalin1985hy, have anybody problems with svn after recent update?13:13
LimCorearykalin1985: in 9.10?13:14
LimCoresvn works for me after today update... how old is that update/13:14
arykalin1985it's inhibits sometimes at svn up, but svn ls and svn st works fine13:16
LimCorewell... I don't know aobut svn13:23
LimCorebut while updating apt-get...13:23
LimCoreapt crashed.. lol13:23
ubot4Launchpad bug 506415 in apport "apport crashed in *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x000000000197ecb0" [Undecided,New]13:30
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hggdhthis is not apt crashing, but apport14:07
hggdhah, you named it wrong14:09
hggdhLimCore: without a backtrace there is not much that can be done14:09
hggdh(and this is where apport would help)14:10
LimCorehggdh: but it seems there was a backtrace and even memmap14:26
vishboo hoo15:16
LimCorebddebian: did I startled you successfully?15:22
komputesnpviewer.bin segfaults when firefox/flash content is present, this seems to be reported in two major bugs: who can confirm a proposed merge?15:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 141613 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed]15:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 178038 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV " [Medium,Confirmed]15:24
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bddebianLimCore: Yep :)15:27
yofelanyone an idea what package this should be? bug 40399716:04
ubot4Launchpad bug 403997 in ubuntu "Icons on desktop are being drawn with flickering and alpha-channel ignorance when moved around" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40399716:04
micahgyofel: probably the graphics driver16:07
micahgyofel: nm16:08
micahgyofel: idk, read the comments...16:09
micahg*I read16:09
yofelyeah, now I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next16:09
dpmmicahg, is the bugsquad meeting not happening today (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting), or did I just get confused with the times16:10
micahgdpm: heh16:10
* micahg forgot about it16:10
micahgbdmurray: ??16:10
micahgor rather bdmurray ^^16:10
dpm(I might not be able to participate much, unfortunately, I'm on a call)16:10
* yofel forgot the meeting too ^^16:11
qenseI set a warning in Evolution, but I just booted. ;)16:11
* bdmurray did too16:11
bdmurrayShall we have one or postpone 'til the 19th?16:11
yofelhi hggdh ^^16:12
qenseI think there was someone from Translations who said he'd join the meeting to discuss some things regarding translation bug reports.16:12
hggdhsorry,  just logged in. Postpone what?16:12
yofelhggdh: meeting16:12
dpmhi qense, the translations guy was me :-)16:12
hggdhadiroiban, I think16:13
dpmbut I'm happy if you guys postpone it as well, since I'm on a call right now16:13
happyarondpm: hi, I am here16:13
hggdhK. I have nothing against16:13
* happyaron rushing in just now16:14
qenseWell, if no one is ready then it would probably be better to postpone the meeting.16:14
hggdhdo we have quorum?16:14
* hggdh will just wait and see -- was late, anyways, battling a nervous GDM16:15
jibelyofel: you should ask to attach  /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of lspci -nn16:15
yofeljibel: ok, will do, thx16:15
hggdhFWIW -- I am OK with either. 19th might be a bit complex, since we will have done an upgrade on the weekend on a prod system, but such is life16:17
qenseI vote for the 19th in that case.16:18
yofel+1 for 19th16:18
jibelyofel: the OR said it happens with compiz turned off so ask for the output of the command gconftool -g /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager16:19
qensehggdh: you use nvidia on lucid?16:19
yofeljibel: ah ok, didn't know where that was set, thx16:20
hggdhno, I have an ATI (which, BTW, is not working)16:20
hggdhqense: ^16:20
hggdh+1 on the 19th.16:20
hggdhbdmurray: ^ we postpone, I guess16:21
yofelqense: I use nvidia on lucid, didn't reboot for a wihle though and can't say if the new driver works or not16:21
qenseah, I had GDM troubles as well, but a new upload of the nvidia drivers solved it. Maybe similar to the prolems with your ATi?16:21
bdmurrayhggdh: got it, thanks!16:21
hggdhqense: IDK... ATI is broken for about a month, but this issue on X was new, after today's upgrades (and two bugs opened for it)16:22
qenseah, maybe I'll experience it as well soon then16:22
hggdhI have been running VESA since ATI croaked16:22
qenseVesa? :O16:22
hggdhbetter than VGA ;-)16:22
qenseand I was thinking ATi was improving on Linux16:22
hggdhit was/is/will/would be16:23
hggdhbut I got ATI, the display is absolutely corrupted16:23
micahghggdh: free drivers or fglrx16:24
hggdhmicahg: free drivers. fglrx is another I gave up about 6 months ago :-)16:24
hggdhX autosenses it as a radeon16:25
micahghggdh: maybe try the latest fglrx directly from ATI, it's fixed my issues in the past16:25
hggdhmicahg: good idea, will try.16:25
micahghggdh: tha ATI package can generate .debs16:26
hggdhoh, even better, then I can (hopefully) have a clean uninstall16:28
hggdhcuz, right now, VESA sucks ;-)16:29
thekornkomputes, I've one question about the mail you sent to the ML about the nspluginwrapper bugs, what do you mean by 'merge'?16:58
thekornchoosing one as master and marking the other as duplicates?16:58
komputesthekorn: yes, marking the two newer ones as duplicates of the first one reported.16:59
komputesthekorn: since they affect many people i thought I would check with the team first17:00
komputesthekorn: they seem to be the same bug17:00
thekornkomputes, I personally don't care, but this would generate alot of bugmail noise,17:01
thekornwhich might anoy some unlucky people17:01
thekornand I'm not sure if this is worth it17:01
thekornso I personally think we should leave it as it is right now17:02
thekornbut ask the mozilla-team if this bugs are on their radar17:02
thekornand ask them to leave an official statement on the bugreports about their plans17:03
micahgkomputes: bug #?17:08
thekornmicahg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/14161317:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 141613 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed]17:09
ubot4thekorn: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/178038)17:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 192270 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,New]17:09
micahgkomputes: please don't mark duplicate unless you verified the cause in the stacktrace is the same17:10
komputesmicahg: thats where i was hesitant, stacktrace looks similar but not identical17:11
micahgthekorn: komputes: I'll take a look at these later tonight17:11
komputesasac: ^ these bugs on your radar?17:11
thekornmicahg, super, great thanks17:11
komputesmicahg: thank you17:11
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om26er_what should i do with a bug saying 'no gchat' and in description 'i cannot use gchat' and was asked to provide further info and did not reply in 2moths. i can use gtalk so should i mark it invalid?17:53
bdmurrayDo these linux mint people have a bug tracker?17:54
bdmurrayom26er_: yes, that sounds reasonable17:54
hggdhom26er_: follow the standard replies, please17:56
pedro_bdmurray, seems they're using launchpad17:56
om26er_hggdh, you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses ?17:56
pedro_bdmurray, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/linuxmint17:57
hggdhom26er_: yes, sorry for missing to provide the link17:58
bdmurraypedro_: ooh, awesome thanks17:58
om26er_hggdh, actually i got the link from you in the email i think17:58
hggdhheh. Age is kicking in, I guess ;-)17:59
xteejxHi guys18:05
xteejxNeed help with triaging bug 115967, I don't know ldap at all, but this bug is from 2007 but still a problem in Karmic, any help please?18:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 115967 in sudo "sudo-ldap not working with ldaps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11596718:07
om26er_how old should a bug be to close it if no reply from the reporter/any other confirmer18:13
xteejxom26er_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Incomplete%20bugs%20without%20a%20response%20from%20submitter18:14
xteejxanyone able to help triaging sudo/ldap?18:23
xteejxalso, at what point is a good time to start pointing people to test a Lucid live CD? alpha 1/2/3, etc or beta/rc??18:31
xteejxill be here for a bit someone say my name ill grab the message/reply :)18:34
xteejxmicahg, sorry to bother you, are you busy/able to help at all?18:43
micahgxteejx: maybe18:44
xteejxmicahg, its bug 115967, the bug is from 2007 but still a problem in Karmic, don't know where to go from here with triage as I don't know ldap at all18:45
ubot4Launchpad bug 115967 in sudo "sudo-ldap not working with ldaps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11596718:45
micahgxteejx: maybe check in #ubuntu-server18:47
hggdhbdmurray: why is the bug-control ML receiving apport-generated email? -- telepathhy, ubiquity, and others18:47
micahghggdh: 10 or more dups18:47
bdmurraythose bugs need a bug pattern18:48
xteejxmicahg: Didn't realise there was a ubuntu-server will have an ask in a bit18:48
xteejxi had them through as well18:48
hggdhI had forgotten :-(18:48
hggdhmemory, Brian, memory, and a customer that gets more and more confusing18:48
hggdhBTW, bdmurray, I agree that the bughelpers ML can be discontinued18:50
bdmurrayI'm gonna work on a pattern for screenlets bug 23884118:53
ubot4Launchpad bug 238841 in screenlets "SysmonitorScreenlet.py crashed with TypeError in on_draw()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23884118:53
bdmurrayit looks like 503983 could use one too18:53
xteejxI'm guessing my bug 115967 might have enough information to step it up to Triaged... not 100% sure though18:53
ubot4Launchpad bug 115967 in sudo "sudo-ldap not working with ldaps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11596718:53
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xteejxbdmurray: is there an apport hook for pm-utils?19:14
thekornwow, the retracers seem to be on fire today ;)19:53
macodid it just discover a masterbug and dup 45-ish bugs to it? or were those all duping to other bugs? i didnt pay that close of attention as i went "AHHH!"19:54
vishcould someone make https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/281717 , public? my bug just got duped to it20:10
ubot4vish: Error: This bug is private20:10
vishyeah yeah... !  ;p20:10
vishwe should make the bots know when the user says its private :)20:11
hggdhvish: done. I beieve you will not mark it confirmed, etc, etc ;-)20:14
vishhggdh: hmm.. i'm confused now after you said that... am i allowed to mark it or ... forbidden :s20:16
hggdhvish: now that it is public, yes. If your bug is the same issue, then the bug is certainly confirmed20:17
vishhggdh: hehe , you were mocking me from the other bug... lol ;)20:17
hggdhnot really mocking, though, just prodding you in the Right Direction (TM) for triage work ;-)20:18
qensemaco, thekorn: the bugcontrol mailist is subscribed to every bug with 10 or more duplicates until a bug pattern has been written. That bug pattern should prevent the bug from being reported again and instead redirect the people to the existing master bug report.20:20
macothekorn: jynx you owe me a soda20:21
thekornokidoki, deal20:22
* micahg never understood what they were for before...20:22
macodoes "jynx" (or something similar) exist over there, thekorn?20:22
thekornhmm, no, but I've heard this phrase before20:24
* hggdh is lost20:24
macoin the US if 2 people say the same thing at the same time you shout "jynx!" and then the person who wasnt first to say it has to be silent20:28
macostandard end of the jynx is a soda20:28
hggdhoh. Native customs.20:32
xteejxhey guys20:36
xteejxbug 124113, should I close this bug report, the reporter hasn't answered the question and I don't know if this was ever implemented20:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 124113 in iputils "ping6 doesn't support ICMPv6 Node Information DNS Name queries" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12411320:37
xteejxmaco: we do that in the UK too lol20:39
macoxteejx: ok. i didnt know how far it went, just that apparently not in germany since thekorn doesnt know it20:40
xteejxmaco: stops at the east of the pond, although it wouldnt surprise me if they did it in oz too, british commonwealth20:41
qensein the Netherlands some people scream 'citroen!' (citron!) when it happens, but most people just find it a bad joke :P20:42
xteejxqense: citron? doesn't that mean lemon?20:42
qenseno, it's the yellow kind20:43
jpdsxteejx: No, it's a car.20:43
macoqense: lemons are the yellow kind20:43
qensethe man who founded the company was named Citroen but changed his name to Citroën when he moved to France because it sounded more french20:43
macothe green ones are limes20:43
xteejxjpds, i know citroen is a car maker we have them in the UK, just zitronen in german means lemon lol20:43
BUGabundoqense: ahahahh20:44
xteejxsounds similar20:44
qenseCitroen was a common Jewish surname until the WWII20:44
xteejxanyway......forget citroen, buy an aston martin db9 ;)20:45
macoin aruba they mostly only have limes, no lemons, so most people there dont even know the word "lemon" and in the rare case that a bar has them, they refer to them as "yellow limes"20:45
qenseI have heard of limes before, but I never new the citrons were the green ones20:45
xteejxmaco: seriously? haha20:45
xteejxin england we have custard, but the french call it creme anglais....english cream, they dont believe custard exists20:46
macodont they call mince pies like "tarts anglais" too?20:47
xteejxyeah i think so haha20:47
xteejxhow grinchy :)20:47
qenseWell, we have Filet Amèricain (in the Netherlands, it's not known in France), but no American has ever heard of it.20:47
xteejxfilet? as in a fillet of chicken or fish or something?20:47
qensechopped and minced meat chopped in small pieces and then made into small pieces20:48
macoground beef?20:48
qensethis stuff: http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&source=hp&q=filet+americain&btnG=Afbeeldingen+zoeken&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=20:48
xteejxjust wiki-ed it.....its made from horse meat....banned in the EU lol20:48
qensebanned? Not here :P20:48
qensemaybe made from fake horse meat nowadays20:48
xteejxnetherlands is EU isnt it?20:49
xteejxits prob beef20:49
qenseyes we are!20:49
macolooks like burgers20:49
xteejxmaco: it does a bit20:49
qensenah, it's raw meat20:49
macoer, carpacio, i mean20:50
xteejxraw meat!?20:50
macobut carpacio wouldnt be ground...20:50
xteejxwth is carpacio?20:50
macoslices of raw beef20:50
qenseAccording to Wikipedia NL it's this in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare20:50
macotheres also salmon carpacio, it hink20:50
qensebut Filet Americain looks different20:50
qensemade from raw lean beef20:51
macowell salmon carpacio's no different than super-super-thinly sliced sashimi20:51
xteejxits like we have "burger sauce" which is for chips (thick fries) to dip in, its only seen in the SE of england, no-one else in the world knows what it is....its like tomato puree and apricot sauce stuff20:52
qenseIs it any edible? I've never had sushi and no salmon carpaccio either.20:52
xteejxsushi is really nice20:52
qensePM sauce! :P It's from a Dutch company now, iirc20:53
qenseor was it MP sauce?20:53
macosalmon is MUCH better raw than cooked20:53
macotuna too20:53
xteejxi agree20:53
xteejxand dolphin..... theres enough in tuna!20:54
macoO_O dolphin's a mammal!20:54
xteejxbuger sauce = american fry sauce + mustard! wow didnt know that20:54
macooh wait... that probably doesnt matter to you20:54
qenseMember of Parliament sauce. Very famous English sauce named after its first noteworthy users and said to be horrid.20:54
xteejxmaco: fished from Japan20:54
xteejxmaco: it does20:54
xteejxqense: never heard of it lol20:54
macothe uh..vegetarian in me gaped at "dolphin"20:55
qenseA friend of mine whose mother is English knew it and was offended by the comment of the newspaper said it was a combination of watery ketchup and liquorice/licorice/drop (no proper English word?) water20:56
macooh um, i do not recommend shark.20:56
xteejxmaco: I'm not vegetarian, but very compassionate to animal welfare :)20:56
xteejxqense: we have licorice lol and its HP sauce or commonly known as just "brown sauce" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce20:56
qenseah, HP sauce20:56
macomy dad once served shark when i was a kid. was not tasty. even my siblings (who generally enjoy eating meat and fish and things) did not like it20:56
qenseHouses of Parliament?20:56
qenseshark? that is a weird dish!20:57
xteejxqense: ohhhhhhhhhh omg i never made that connection!!! hahaha probably only person in britain that knows20:57
qenseIt stood in the newspaper here!20:57
qensewait! did you recognise it from my description? :P20:57
xteejxqense: no i googled it hahah :P20:58
xteejxits really steak sauce20:58
xteejxor in greece....teriyaki20:58
chrisccoulsonbdmurray - bug 503983 was caused by the recent glibc breakage by the way, which is fixed now21:00
ubot4Launchpad bug 503983 in gnome-menus "update-gnome-menus-cache crashed with Error in setlocale()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50398321:00
chrisccoulsonit's actually a duplicate of bug 504198, but i'm not sure if there's any easy way of relinking all those duplicates21:01
ubot4Launchpad bug 504198 in eglibc "locale support broken on upgrade to latest eglibc" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50419821:01
bdmurraychrisccoulson: I meant have something lying around but it'd just cause more e-mail to 50419821:01
bdmurrayer might! ;-)21:02
chrisccoulsonbdmurray - no worries. i'll just close that one as fix released now and add a comment with the master bug number in21:03
bdmurraythat seems best, thanks!21:03
bdmurraychrisccoulson: would a launchpad search for setlocale() be a good idea too?21:04
xteejxbdmurray: as i asked earlier, you were prob busy....is there an apport hook for pm-utils, seems that there would be to replace acpi-support but there isn't one listed in the wiki21:04
chrisccoulsonbdmurray - yeah, possibly. i think the glibc breakage caused quite a few things to crash, so there might still be a few open bugs, even though it was only broken for a short period21:04
xteejxsoooooooooo many bugs LP janitor has missed....doesn't it prune and invalidate old incomplete bugs?21:06
bdmurrayxteejx: no that is turned off atm21:07
xteejxthe pruning or the apport hook?21:07
bdmurraythe janitor21:07
bdmurrayand there is no hook for pm-utils21:07
xteejxoh :( on both21:09
xteejxoh well, "-p linux" i guess then21:09
yofelcould someone set bug 504116 to Medium/Triaged? Thx.21:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 504116 in apport "apport-collect returns incorrect name with -h option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50411621:10
bcurtiswxanyone know why as bug control i can not access https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/50389521:11
ubot4bcurtiswx: Error: This bug is private21:11
xteejxbcurtiswx: can't access that either21:12
* bcurtiswx shrugs21:12
bcurtiswxbdmurray: ^^21:13
hggdhthe bug is probably waiting for apport-retraces to do its magic21:13
hggdhit is apport-retracer that assigns the bug triagers group(s)21:14
hggdhfor our own bug, we have access, but not for others'21:14
bdmurrayI can't see it either fwiw21:14
xteejxthought bug control had unrestricted access...maybe not21:14
bdmurrayxteejx: well it is possibly not an Ubuntu bug ;-)21:15
bdmurrayadditionally a bug can be private and not an apport crash21:15
bcurtiswxit was marked a duplicate of an ubuntu bug...21:15
xteejxbdmurray: trust the brains of the outfit to think the obvious leaving us sratching our heads hehe :)21:15
bcurtiswxhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/computer-janitor/+bug/503656 marked as dup of that21:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 503656 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with KeyError in create_column()" [High,Confirmed]21:16
bdmurraybcurtiswx: hmm, I'd check with pitti then21:17
yofeland bug 505671 to Whishlist/Triaged21:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 505671 in apport "Redundant "Tags" field is added to bug descriptions in Launchpad" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50567121:18
bdmurrayyofel: I'd Won't Fix bug 50567121:19
yofelbdmurray: well, I'm not sure, It has some documenting value, but it indeed it duplicate information21:20
bdmurrayyofel: I biased since I likely asked for it21:20
thekornhmm, the bug above (bug 503656) looks similar to another one, /me tries to find it21:20
ubot4Launchpad bug 503656 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with KeyError in create_column()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50365621:20
yofelbdmurray: ah ok ^^21:21
bcurtiswxthekorn: there are quite a few since it crashes easily in lucid21:21
yofelwell, I personally don't care if it's there or not, so feel free to do what you want with the bug21:21
thekornbcurtiswx, right, bug 503727 is the one, which as also a good number of dups21:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 503727 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with KeyError in create_column()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50372721:22
thekornmaybe another candidate for a bugpattern ;)21:22
thekornlet's try to write one!21:22
bcurtiswxthekorn: 656 has a launchpad janitor entry that said its a dup of 727 BUT it couldn't do it either (which I was trying to do manually but ran into my original problem) :D21:22
xteejxbdmurray: forgot to ask, when would you suggest we begin to ask bug reporters to test Lucid live/daily CDs for current hardware issues? I mean now or when beta comes out?21:23
xteejxits not really documented21:23
thekornbcurtiswx, ok, I think I will just un-private the one bug and mark the other one as duplicate21:24
thekorn..and write a pattern for it21:25
bcurtiswxpitti said the bug i mentioned earlier was only accessible to apport.. hes looking into it21:25
thekornbcurtiswx, oh, you already did it21:25
thekornbcurtiswx, aha, now I got what your original problem was21:26
thekornsorry, did not pay attention21:26
yofelbdmurray: but can you set bug 504116 to Medium/Triaged? The help output has nothing to do with the actual used command21:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 504116 in apport "apport-collect returns incorrect name with -h option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50411621:27
bcurtiswxwell i was originally going to manually dup the 656 to 727 and carry on some manual bug dup moving.. beh, its hard to describe :P21:27
xteejxwhen should we be directing people to test Lucid Live/daily CDs for hardware support issues, now or when a future alpha or beta comes out??21:35
yofelbdmurray: thanks :)21:36
bdmurrayxteejx: if its is possible with the live cd now would be great21:38
xteejxbdmurray: cool no probs, will start directing peeps to a daily live CD then - thanks for clearing that up :)21:39
bcurtiswxok, someone want to introduce me to this bug pattern thing we can do now.. whats involved?21:39
thekornbdmurray, hey, is it poosible to search for a string in an attachement in a bugpattern?21:40
thekornlike in the Traceback.txt added by apport21:40
bdmurraythekorn: yes, see ubuntuone-client for an example21:50
thekornbdmurray, sorry, now I'm lost ;) I don't see a pattern for ubuntuone-client on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns/files21:52
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bdmurraythekorn: oh, I must not have checked it in.  see gnome-menus.xml then ;-)22:08
bdmurraybasically the key will be Traceback22:10
bdmurraybcurtiswx: its just writing a simple xml pattern22:13
bcurtiswxok, what is a pattern?22:13
bcurtiswxif its a dumb question please feel free to mock me and shame me for it :P22:14
bdmurraythat's one what looks like22:14
bdmurraywhen apport is filing a crash it first checks to see if the crash matches a pattern like the following22:15
bdmurraythen it directs the reporter to the pattern url instead of filing another bug report22:15
bcurtiswxah, easy enough22:16
bcurtiswxthekorn, were you working on one for the bugs I mentioned earlier?22:16
bdmurrayso you copy an existing one and modify the relevant bits22:16
bcurtiswxbdmurray: thanks. i do that for a lot of things :D22:16
bdmurraythen you check the "master bug" using test-local22:16
bcurtiswxtag it test-local?22:17
bdmurraythe check all the bugs for the package using search-bugs to cleanup duplicates and look for false positives22:17
bdmurraybugpatterns/master] ./test-local 50372722:17
bdmurrayits a script in the bugpatterns bzr branch22:17
bdmurrayI'd be happy to review any patterns for people22:20
xteejxcan anyone have a look at bug 115967 please, am stuck on triaging I don't know the package, its in Karmic, is this enough to go to Triaged? I feel it might be but want a 2nd opinion22:23
thekornbdmurray, I think writing a one for bug 503727 should be easy, but maybe bcurtiswx is doing it right now ?22:23
ubot4Launchpad bug 115967 in sudo "sudo-ldap not working with ldaps" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11596722:23
ubot4Launchpad bug 503727 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with KeyError in create_column()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50372722:23
bcurtiswxthekorn: yes i am attempting to :D22:24
bdmurrayxteejx: I check in #ubuntu-server maybe22:25
bdmurrayer I'd22:25
xteejxbdmurray: asked a while ago, no response22:25
thekornbcurtiswx, this is how I would do it, what do you think? http://paste.ubuntu.com/355755/22:26
bcurtiswxthekorn: lol i just made http://paste.ubuntu.com/355756/ to see if i fail or not22:28
bdmurraybcurtiswx: you'd have to escape the parens in yours22:29
bdmurrayso \(\)22:29
bcurtiswxah darn \(\)22:29
xteejxtrying again in server, maybe get a response this time22:29
bcurtiswxok so since im gonna play the dumb card here.. how do I put that into the codebase?22:29
bdmurraybzr add, bzr commit -m "blah", bzr push22:30
bcurtiswxim used to svn... same?22:30
thekornyay for meaningful commit messages ;)22:30
bdmurrayI'd use bcurtiswx's pattern since it is more specific just to be safe22:30
bcurtiswxis there a specific way to co the code?22:31
thekornI'd take a combination of both ;)22:31
bdmurraywell when I said blah I meant something like mine ;-)22:31
bdmurraymaking a gnome-menus pattern for LP: #50398322:31
thekornhis Title node and my Taceback one ;)22:31
bdmurraythekorn: ah, yeah that'd be ideal22:32
bcurtiswxthekorn: ok i'll do22:32
thekornbcurtiswx, super, great22:32
bcurtiswxis there a web address to co with..? im used to svn co http://url.to.code.here/22:33
bcurtiswxco = checkout .. sorry22:33
thekornbzr branch lp:~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns   to get the source22:34
thekorn...amke your changes ...22:35
thekornbzr add; bzr commit -m "blah ;)"; bzr push :parent22:36
bcurtiswxthekorn: thx22:37
bcurtiswxdone :D22:42
* bdmurray claps22:42
bcurtiswxyeah, im a no0b.  :P22:43
bcurtiswxnow to test?22:43
bdmurraytesting before committing / pushing is really the right thing to do22:44
bdmurrayas is this could block all bug filing for a package22:44
bcurtiswxi know.. i realized this too late22:44
bdmurraybut ./test-local 13456 where that is your master bug number22:44
bcurtiswxLP: #503727: Matched bug pattern: https://launchpad.net/bugs/50372722:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 503727 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with KeyError in create_column()" [Undecided,New]22:46
bdmurraythen you could use test-local with some duplicates of it or doing something like22:46
bdmurray ./search-bugs --tags apport-crash --package computer-janitor22:46
bdmurrayI'm working on software-center now fwiw22:47
bcurtiswxReached master bug LP: #50372722:48
bdmurrayokay, so there likely aren't any more to consolidate22:48
thekornI think you should also try ./search-bugs --tags apport-crash --package computer-janitor -d22:48
thekornto check if it works with already marked duplicates22:49
bdmurraythat just leaves unsubscribing the team from the bug and updating the tag22:49
bdmurraythekorn: oh, that's a good idea ;-)22:49
bcurtiswxyeah, it's catching them all :D cool22:50
bcurtiswxalrightie, dinner time here.. bbs22:53
xteejxwishlist bug 144793, would this be an implemented feature now?23:17
ubot4Launchpad bug 144793 in partman-auto-loop "Use dd with bs=4k when creating disk images" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14479323:17

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