[08:39] <CIA-6> ubiquity: evand * r3650 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): Handle transitioning away from plymouth in ubiquity-dm.
[11:24] <CIA-6> grub-installer: cjwatson * r831 no-device-map/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):
[11:24] <CIA-6> grub-installer: Use grub-probe to convert device names rather than relying on
[11:24] <CIA-6> grub-installer: device.map.
[11:36] <CIA-6> ubiquity: evand * r3651 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[11:36] <CIA-6> ubiquity: * Use new URL format introduced by the latest ubiquity-slideshow.
[11:36] <CIA-6> ubiquity: * Support RTL text in the Kubuntu slideshow.
[11:44] <CIA-6> grub-installer: cjwatson * r832 no-device-map/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Only add removable devices to device.map if using GRUB Legacy.
[12:35] <CIA-6> ubiquity: evand * r3652 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py):
[12:35] <CIA-6> ubiquity: Bring the KDE frontend slideshow handling into line with GTK
[12:35] <CIA-6> ubiquity: frontend.
[12:48] <CIA-6> ubiquity: evand * r3653 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.1.10
[12:54] <ogra> cjwatson, i assume you do a d-i upload to fix the unifont.bgf issue, could you bump the imx51 kernel version with that upload as well ?
[12:54] <cjwatson> er what?
[12:54] <cjwatson> what unifont.bgf issue?
[12:54] <ogra> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37711810/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.debian-installer_20081029ubuntu78_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:55] <cjwatson> oh you mean the installation-locale bug. I already uploaded installation-locale and was just going to give-back d-i.
[12:55] <cjwatson> hadn't got round to that yet though
[12:55] <ogra> oh
[12:55] <cjwatson> I'll do that first, and then do armel kernel bumps after that
[12:55] <ogra> thanks :)
[12:55] <ogra> i dont think dove needs bumping
[12:56]  * ogra checks -changes
[12:56] <ogra> no, there was no upload
[12:59] <CIA-6> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1227 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel/imx51.cfg debian/changelog): Move iMX51 images to 2.6.31-602 kernels.
[15:43] <ara> ev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/506475
[15:47] <ev> ara: can you please attach the logs from that install attempt?
[16:26] <ara> ev, sure
[16:27] <ev> thanks
[16:27] <ara> ev, I have uploaded them now
[16:58] <davmor2> ev: is that you evan?
[16:58] <ev> yes
[16:59] <davmor2> ev: on usb-creator does it support netboot iso's?
[17:00] <ev> assuming the netboot isos don't depend on symlinks, it should.
[17:06] <davmor2> ev: does u-c have a debug mode? so we can see why it fails and if it is the iso at fault?
[17:07] <ev> davmor2: it keeps a log in ~/.usbcreator.log
[17:07] <ev> davmor2: what exactly is the problem you're having?
[17:08] <davmor2> ev: I'm not yet, I'm going to try it in a second.  the issue is being had by komputes on the testing channel.
[17:08] <davmor2> he is just saying that it is failing
[17:10] <davmor2> ev: I've just asked him to add the log to his bug report 506441
[17:21] <davmor2> ev: thanks
[17:22] <michaelforrest1> cjwatson: I hesitate to ask, but did you get a chance to look at that installer mockup I did at the end of last year?
[17:23] <cjwatson> michaelforrest1: not at all I'm afraid, I've been absolutely buried in a contract project
[17:23] <cjwatson> money and all that
[17:24] <ev> michaelforrest1: for what it's worth, I've been giving it a read over and adding some thoughts in the form of notes to a copy I made of it.  However, I've been consumed by trying to catch up with our burndown chart since the holiday and have not finished yet.
[17:32] <michaelforrest1> ev that's good to hear
[17:33] <michaelforrest1> ev: I did see in the doc history that you'd added comments but couldn't seem to find them in the actual document — will look again no
[17:33] <michaelforrest1> *now
[17:33] <ev> michaelforrest1: oh, I accidentally saved the original without actually making any changes.  My comments are in a copy of the document that I'll paste back in just as soon as I'm done.
[17:34] <michaelforrest1> ev: you don't want to just edit the document directly? :)
[17:37] <ev> michaelforrest: sure, will do
[19:50] <davmor2> cjwatson: is the fact that you can't delete partitions in manual partitioning in ubiq known at all?
[19:50] <cjwatson> I don't know, sorry
[19:50] <davmor2> cjwatson: no probs :)
[20:14] <CIA-6> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1228 ubuntu/ (build/config/amd64.cfg debian/changelog):
[20:14] <CIA-6> debian-installer: Use mklibs-copy on amd64. I'm not quite sure what's wrong here, and it
[20:14] <CIA-6> debian-installer: needs further investigation.
[20:14] <CIA-6> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1229 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu79
[22:08] <superm1> ev, i forget, what was the reason to expose both the full device and each of it's partitions in usb-creator (eg /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1)?
[22:09] <ev> superm1: so we can support disk images, and because some usb disks come with a vfat filesystem written directly to the disk
[22:09] <ev> the UI could use a fair amount of love there
[22:10] <ev> it really shouldn't say "you need to format this device" when it's entirely unnecessary
[22:10] <superm1> do any of the *buntus that are generated still come in disk image format though?  i thought they were all .iso now
[22:10] <superm1> but i guess you can argue you'd want to support older releases too
[22:12] <ev> superm1: the mobile team wanted it
[22:12] <ev> I've asked as recent as this past UDS, if memory serves, and davidm still wanted it
[22:13] <superm1> Hm.  Well maybe would if be sufficient then to filter /dev/sdb itself if you currently have an iso format image selected?
[22:14] <superm1> or if you detect that it's one of these full filesystem devices, don't offer the individual partitions
[22:21] <ev> it used to have code similar to that
[22:21]  * ev briefly ponders
[22:24] <ev> expanding on what you're saying, how about the frontend doesn't show any device that's not a partition when an ISO is selected, unless that device is a filesystem directly on a disk (which I believe dk-disks marks as a 'loop' partition table format).  Though actually, this doesn't handle the case of a device that needs to be formatted.
[22:30] <ev> any time there's a new possible target or the source selection changes, if the source is an iso, set the list of targets to all the vfat partitions and vfat filesystems on disk.  If a parent device has no vfat partitions in this scenario, show it as needing to be formatted.
[22:30] <ev> I think I need a pen and paper and some time
[22:31] <superm1> yeah that sounds good
[22:32] <superm1> what was the other thing I was thinking... Oh yeah, so in doing that, you can probably also ditch the /dev/sdb1 etc nomenclature and just show the "pretty" name of the device
[22:34] <ev> yeah, I absolutely want to do that
[22:35] <ev> superm1: by the way, thanks for the bug fixes and attention to usb-creator
[22:36] <ev> I very much appreciate it
[22:36] <ev> gotta run