[00:01] how can I turn on/off the on screen display connected to turning volume up or down? [00:10] ehc? [00:10] ilumi: yes? [00:10] maybe ecs? [00:12] ilumi: should the be visible as a process under system activity? [00:14] ilumi: ecs? i'm googling "kde ecs" and not finding much info. does it have a web page or longer name? [00:14] no meant escapte key [00:15] but look for process that has osd in it [00:15] escape [00:23] privet [00:31] privet tovarish [00:38] anyone know how well (or badly) kubuntu runs on the new lenovo edge laptop? [00:40] anyone have an x1200 radeon gfx card... i have one and can't find the drivers [00:40] Hey, when I boot the cd (kubuntu 9.10) I get the menu, but when I press "Install Kubuntu" it freezes, then unfreezes in a minute or so, but nothing happens... === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:46] jce0694: it should just install and work [00:47] iconmefisto: u mean when i install kubuntu os it should have already installed the drivers for the gfx card? [00:47] jce0694: exactly [00:48] iconmefisto: but why the slow frame rate for glxgears? everybody has way faster fps [00:49] if you do apt-cache search radeon, you'll find xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon which should be installed [00:50] ctrl-esc and see if there are any processes that are hogging resources [00:50] there's no way to check with gui's... i'm not really good with konsole yet [00:51] you can search for "radeon" in kpackagekit. that should show the same packages [00:52] iconmefisto: you're a bit too far ahead of me... i don't know where kpackagekit is [00:52] iconmefisto: or what it is [00:52] ubuntu 9.10 has the x1200 driver as native. [00:53] jce0694: just type it in the search window [00:53] systemsettings, add/remove software, or just alt-F2 and type kpackagekit [00:56] Daughain: native... that means it automatically supports the gfx card? [00:56] jce0694: yes. [00:57] ubuntu 9.10, not 9.04 [00:57] an I dont know about kubuntu. [00:58] low level things like drivers are the same between ubuntu and kubuntu [00:58] default apps are the difference [00:58] Maco thanks/ [00:58] iconmefisto: ok thanks guys... i think it's installed... [00:59] jce0694: this is what kpackagekit shows is installed on mine (searching for "radeon"): http://imagebin.ca/view/rmwDq4J.html [01:00] iconmefisto: ok... mine looks similar... i have another question about installing software and removing it [01:01] iconmefisto: how come when i open kpackagekit and look at software management i don't see all programs that i have installed... specifically i installed matlab a while back and want to remove it but it does not show up as an installed program [01:03] did you install it manually? or through kpackagekit or apt-get install ... ? [01:04] iconmefisto: i did not install the software through kpackage or apt-get [01:05] iconmefisto: i guess that is why it does not show up huh? [01:05] probably [01:06] how did you install it? there's probably an uninstall that came with the download (if you downloaded it from somewhere) [01:06] i installed the software to the wrong directory... since i didn't install through kpackage or apt-get would i just delete the directory and all sub directories manually to "uninstall" it? [01:08] jce0694: I don't know what matlab is or what it does, so I don't really know. if you delete the directory, you'll remove the files, but the install may have changed some system settings too. [01:09] iconmefisto: matlab is a psuedo type of programming language for computations but without all the heavy syntax... similar to mathematica or maple (u may have heard of those) [01:10] did you run a script to install it? or just unpack an archive and nothing more? [01:10] a script installed it i think [01:11] is there a readme file? if so, it may explain how to uninstall [01:12] iconmefisto: illsearch for one... do most programs have an uninstall script/executable thingie [01:15] jce0694: usually yes, if there is an install script [01:15] iconmefisto: ok... i'll poke around and see what i find [01:30] is there a way to tell MonoDevelop to generate a make file for a .desktop file? I'm running into problems creating a .deb because it doesn't know what to do with the .desktop [01:40] hi evreybody [01:40] supsup [01:40] j'ai un probleme je peux le poser? [01:40] french? [01:41] thelinuxexperime: I don't know MD well, but you could always create/modify the appropriate debian/foo.install [01:41] ok j'ai installé le bureau kde sous ubuntu gnome ,c marche bien mais au demarrage de grub ca plante [01:42] je dois choisir un autre kernel pour que ca marche [01:43] crimsun: the weird thing is when I ran dh_make it didn't create a .install file [01:44] thelinuxexperime: it shouldn't. [01:44] crimsun: oh. haha sorry I am very new to this, actually very new to Linux in general [01:45] crimsun: is there a web resource I can look at to find the format of a .install file? [01:46] thelinuxexperime: man 1 dh_install [01:46] thelinuxexperime: or, search for "man dh_install" [01:46] anybody know about the lmdown command...i'm trying to uninstall matlab from my laptop and it says to use this command (http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/en/data/1-17VR3/index.html?solution=1-17VR3) [01:47] hi , i tried installing kubuntu 9.10 on my tower machine but the installer could see my partitions. I have that drive set for cable select should i just make it master? [01:47] crimsun: :P thanks [01:47] could mot see [01:49] it has Sabayon on it atm woou like to put kubuntu on it instead [01:51] Just installed proprietary graphics driver for ati and it says it is activated but not in use how do I fix this problem? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:52] nathan__: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Now_you.27ll_have_to_edit_your_xorg.conf [01:52] nathan__: applies to 9.10 or other as well [01:52] genii: I am using karmic [01:53] nathan__: See my second remark. 9.10 is karmic [01:55] genii: any help for me? [01:56] alien64: Hardware wise it's best to set both drives on an IDE cable to "cable select" and then put the master on the end of the ribbon [01:57] only the one drive [01:57] not 2 in the machine [01:57] Hello, is there a way to force Kubuntu to use my HDMI as sound output and not my sound card? [01:57] the installer doesnt see it at all [01:57] genii: Does this apply even if I installed the driver through hardware drivers [01:58] alien64: Then end of the ribbon if it has space on the ribbon for 2 drives, either cable-select or master jumpers usually although some drives require all jumpers removed in this config [01:58] PengytheDuckwin: choose it as the preferred output device in Phonon [01:59] crimsun: I know I sound very noobish like this, but the command phonon only brings me to choose the sound deinterlacer. [02:00] moohaww hawww...welbekomen, yo!!! [02:01] anyone know where I get an illegal copy of kubuntu? [02:01] ... [02:01] uh, no actually [02:02] hehe [02:02] PengytheDuckwin: System Settings > Multimedia [02:02] crimsun: changing it there doesn't do anything, even though the "test" function works perfectly [02:03] PengytheDuckwin: for which apps? [02:04] crimsun: no sound works on any app, because I think it's directiing to my sound card for some reason, though the HDMI is top on my preferred list. [02:05] PengytheDuckwin: does speaker-test work after you've configured Phonon? [02:05] e.g., speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav [02:07] :~$ speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav [02:07] speaker-test 1.0.20 [02:07] Playback device is default [02:07] Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels [02:07] WAV file(s) [02:07] PengytheDuckwin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:07] ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave [02:07] whoops [02:08] crimsun: phonon's testing works, though [02:09] PengytheDuckwin: does restarting the desired audio app(s) suffice? [02:09] crimsun: you mean closing and reopening? no, but I might have to restart X. [02:10] that would be silly, but...ok [02:11] crimsun: I know, but I've tried everything else already, unless I take out my sound card completely. [02:13] crimsun: well what do you know, it actually worked! [02:14] sounds like a bug in Phonon, then [02:14] crimsun: nevermind, apparently the boot-up sound only worked, not flash video [02:26] hello] === sea is now known as sea__ [02:29] hello [02:32] supsup [02:33] hi === Surion_ is now known as Surion [02:59] Hey all, how do I change my clock, my computer says it's 2:59pm, when my localtime is actually 8:59pm [03:00] gkffjcs: rightclick on clock, "Adjust Date and Time" option [03:12] Flash has no sound. [03:13] I can use other things, and the system has sound, but not flash === shicmap_ is now known as vlukman === vlukman is now known as shicmap === nicholas_ is now known as twobits [03:40] forgive me for a perhaps noobish questions, but is there anyway to make amarok just play a file when I click on it from the right sidebar instead of adding it to a playlist? [03:43] twobits: not that I know of. When I want to play just a single song, I usually use vlc or smplayer. Amarok will allow you to replace the current playlist with one song, though. [03:44] e_t_: ah, thanks [04:05] Anyone good with tftp awake? === matt__ is now known as handlesss === ilumi is now known as werfact === pyro_17 is now known as pyro17 [05:08] hi [05:08] good morning everybody [05:08] anybody here? [05:19] hey huys [05:19] *guys [05:19] just installed 9.04, went fine, ati 9.12 went fine [05:19] compiz+emerald install went fine [05:20] then I downloaded and installed kubuntu's recommended updates [05:20] and now I have no window borders when using compiz [05:20] any help? [05:21] if you switch back to kwin, do the borders come back? [05:21] yeah [05:21] tried removing compiz, emerald, and fusion icon [05:21] and then reinstalling [05:21] to no avail [05:21] same problem [05:22] only happened after updating [05:23] try entering this command: ps ax | egrep '(decorator|emerald)' [05:25] tried it and then switched to compiz, same [05:25] should I switch to compiz then try it? [05:25] yes [05:26] nope [05:26] same thing [05:26] what output do you get from the command? [05:26] 4944 ? S 0:01 emerald --replace [05:27] 6260 pts/2 S+ 0:00 egrep (decorator|emerald) === ilumi is now known as werfact [05:30] did you install compiz-kde? [05:30] think so- here's the command I used [05:30] sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager emerald [05:30] and I got the fusion icon from the package manager [05:31] it worked just fine through a few restarts, and I didn't make any changes to it before installing the updates [05:31] then after update restart it wouldn't work [05:35] Run the compiz settings manager and make sure window decoration is enabled. [05:35] it is [05:36] does anything happen if you run "emerald --replace"? [05:37] I got a problem when I booted ubuntu 9.10 pc http://i45.tinypic.com/2zhnuqe.jpg [05:37] no [05:37] but this is weird [05:37] it must have something to do with one of the plugins I was using [05:38] I restored everything to default and started compiz and I have borders back [05:38] hmmm [05:39] I guess then, you should activate your plugins one at a time to find the offending one. (Or just be happy it worked and move on ;) [05:39] weird [05:40] wish that had occurred to me sooner [05:40] thanks anyway et [05:40] I got a problem when I booted ubuntu 9.10 pc http://i45.tinypic.com/2zhnuqe.jpg [05:40] :) [05:41] porki: can you describe what the problem is? [05:41] please see the ss - http://i45.tinypic.com/2zhnuqe.jpg [05:41] when i boot the pc the graphics stopped working [05:42] So they worked before, you rebooted, and now they don't work? [05:42] yes [05:42] did you do any updates? [05:43] nope [05:43] look at your xorg conf [05:44] see if its loading the nvidia driver [05:46] how to look the xorg.conf ? [05:46] open it with kate [05:46] or any text editor [05:47] Any help for tftp issues? [05:47] porki: have you ever used the terminal before? [05:48] yes [05:48] I opened the xorg.conf [05:49] it should tell you what driver its loading [05:49] it seems that its not loading - http://pastebin.com/d69a1c3fc [05:50] yeah its not loading nvidia [05:51] you need to reconfigure the xserver, but i dont know how because they got rid of the old command [05:53] try "sudo dpkg --configure xserver-xorg" [05:54] or Xorg -configure [05:55] that might not work while X is running [05:57] when I restarted the pc then i got message that kernel not loaded and to restart x server [05:58] (porki: I was addressing you in the other channel) [06:02] porki: what dod you do? [06:03] ? [06:03] did [06:17] brb, power cut :-( [06:28] hi. what package i should install to get a minimal installation of kubuntu on top of ubuntu, i mean just kde. thanks [06:31] petsounds: someone had suggested kde-core [06:31] but it dint work for me [06:31] petsounds: you could try [06:34] titan_ark, thanks. but no thanks, if it's doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for me either :) [06:35] :D [06:35] you could try googling abt it [06:35] i just decided to install kubuntu :P [06:38] !info kde-minimal [06:38] kde-minimal (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment, minimal applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:50ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 7 kB, installed size 36 kB [06:39] * genii sips [06:40] genii, merci beaucoup ;) [06:42] genii: why werent you in the room on that fateful day :P [06:44] It was probably around this hour. I'm not normally around now [06:44] oh and one more question, i add the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta and do i get kde 4.4 rc1 if i install kde-minimal? [06:45] Sorry, don't know :) Probably [06:46] ok, thanks anyway [06:47] !puregnome [06:48] If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal === david is now known as david_ === david_ is now known as david__ === david__ is now known as david___ [06:59] geez lots of davids === david___ is now known as nugnug === nugnug is now known as franxavior [07:00] hi there [07:00] i was wondering how to change the "preview" thing when your cursor if over a desktop item [07:00] so it doesnt show up [07:01] ? [07:05] franxavior: Dig through system settings?? =) [07:06] Daughain: im trying! [07:12] hi [07:12] any1 there?? [07:16] ubuntu: usually here's someone [07:19] damn, mic is not working again [07:19] what crap :( [07:22] franxavior: Click on the wrench on the side of the "Desktop Folder" Choose Display ... uncheck Previews box [07:25] titan_ark: Hopw'd ya lose it this time?? :P [07:26] Daughain: i have no clue [07:27] probably the kernel upday xjjk suggested [07:27] titan_ark: LOL, though I do understand. I'm still trying to get this damn istall done. =( [07:27] i wonder why linux needs to be so hard on somone who really wants to get it :P [07:27] sorry, what's up? [07:28] xjjk: hey :) nm [07:28] microphone not working! [07:28] hrm [07:28] not working, meaning, you're getting an in-use error? [07:29] well i was trying skype and no voice :( [07:29] does anything not skype work [07:29] skype is a flaming piece of #$% [07:29] sype seems ot have a few issues.... [07:29] it was working reasonably (read: with lot of noise) before [07:30] need to install a voice recorder tool to check [07:30] i think there is no default tool, right? [07:30] no clue [07:30] I never use my microphone... [07:31] hmm okay [07:31] i need to, to speak to folks back home [07:32] damn, bad day for it to stop working [07:32] titan_ark: You using the biult in mic on the laptop? [07:32] already aheving a bad day [07:32] Daughain: tried both, the built in mic array and my headphones [07:33] titan_ark: Neither working, I take it? [07:33] yeah [07:33] You try changing hardware in alsa? [07:33] the damn thing was working until yesterday x( [07:33] Daughain: yeah tried almost all combinations [07:33] actually the options seem to have reduced from what they were before [07:33] Well....sitting. [07:34] I get to see a preveiew of what is ahead of me......And, I'm using BT, not hardwire... =) [07:34] hmmm [07:34] any suggestions for a voice recording tool? [07:35] And, whats the liklihood kde will make it easier??=) [07:35] ubuntu has a default one [07:40] !info qarecord [07:40] qarecord (source: qarecord): audio recording tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 220 kB [07:41] 9.10 changed a lot of BT reosaurces and stuff...Irritatig, but true. [07:41] Already started looking into it. =( [07:42] rww All I have is a /etc/inetd.conf [07:42] Oops. [07:42] any idea how i can check the latest version of alsa and if i have got it right? [07:43] hmmm [07:44] Me? No clue. =( [07:44] genii: i installed qarecord, but cant find it [07:45] Daughain: =) np, thx [07:46] !als [07:46] !alsa [07:46] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [07:46] titan_ark: Kmenu...Multimedia [07:47] Where Dragonplayer, K3B, KMix are [07:47] genii: hmm got it [07:48] installed audacity [07:48] all i get is noise [07:48] Daughain: woki, shall chk that [07:53] Step #1: Open the pulseaudio record meter (pavumeter --record) [07:53] and this itself fails [07:53] x( [07:59] titan_ark: Is Mic or Front Mic unmuted in kmix? [08:00] kmix does not even seem to start [08:01] i start it and i can see the tab in the panel below and then it goes away [08:01] same is the case with pulse audio device chooser [08:03] genii: pulseaudio volume control shows no input devices! [08:04] titan_ark: No idea, offhand [08:04] genii: sigh :( [08:05] In KDE 4.4 RC1, where can the Akonadi Settings be found? [08:07] alvin: systemsettings -> advanced tab -> Akonadi settings [08:08] Tm T: That was the case in KDE 4.3.x, but it isn't there anymore in 4.4 RC1 [08:08] titan_ark: That sound slike bad install or missing dependencies.....???? [08:08] alvin: if not, you don't have it properly installed [08:08] alvin: Start up akonadi tray, rightclick on it [08:09] Tm_T: Yes, they do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362487 [08:09] genii: oh? thanks [08:09] np [08:09] Daughain: i dont understand [08:09] Daughain: are you suggesting i reinstall something? alsa? [08:09] Oh, break akonadi? What morons are we? [08:10] genii: shame on me, as I cannot use those packages I don't know how they are if they differ from my system ): [08:10] What if you need to add another calendar source, or an addressbook? (ok, there is a way) [08:10] titan_ark: It sound slike kmix is not fully starting, and my guess as to why would be bad install, or bad(missing) dependencies.....Just throwi9ng a thought out there, nothing more. [08:10] Daughain: okay so il prolly try reinstalling em [08:10] They are 'advanced' settings. Can we have an extra tab in system settings 'super advanced settings'? [08:11] Daughain: it says its in the newest version. how do i reinstall? [08:12] titan_ark: I dunno, I was just throwing it out there hoping one of the bog brains would have something more useful to say. [08:12] Daughain: hmm k thx :) [08:12] need to check how to re install a package [08:14] sudo apt-get install --reinstall something [08:15] titan_ark: Did you do stuff with alsa earlier like asoundconf or something? === gamgron is now known as Wizo [08:15] genii: nope i just did a kernel update yesterday [08:15] a "vanilla" kernel [08:16] Oi, this install thing is getting hairy. [08:17] titan_ark: What soundcard you have? [08:17] Daughain:? [08:18] genii: its an intel HDA something [08:18] Sup? [08:18] how do i get the exact info? [08:18] some grep command :P [08:18] titan_ark: lspci | grep Audio [08:19] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [08:19] If on a previous kernel you followed the !intelhda instructions and it worked then, you need to do those after every kernel update [08:19] reinstalled kmix, and of no use [08:19] !intelhda [08:19] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [08:19] eg [08:20] genii: i dint do nothing the first time, it just worked fine after the alsa install [08:20] titan_ark: I appreciate you trust I have a clue, but I really dont. =) I just try. [08:21] Daughain: :D okay [08:21] genii: prolly cos its a vanilla kernel, it just does not include something that was there in the previous kernel i was using [08:21] titan_ark: I know a bunch of these ommands, but, not lkie genii or some of the others, who can rattle em off. I'm ucky if I can remember then when *I* need them.=) [08:22] lol [08:22] titan_ark: Does: lsmod| grep snd_hda_intel show that module is loaded? [08:22] at least u can, i only remember a small part [08:23] I would suspect kmix, pulse etc work right and don't need any reinstall but that they just can't find what to use if it's driver isn't loaded [08:23] this is what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/355939/ [08:23] cant make sense out of it [08:24] titan_ark: It means the driver IS loaded [08:24] hmmm [08:24] which line told you that? [08:24] titan_ark: how new is the laptop [08:24] i bought it in august' [08:25] new enough... do you know if the driver is just plain buggy [08:25] my laptop, for example, would lose sound whenever coming back from suspend [08:25] WHOOT!!!! [08:25] titan_ark: All of them :) But mostly: snd_hda_intel 26287 5 [08:25] it was fixed in ALSA's development trunk [08:25] but it took almost a year for it to show up in Ubuntu [08:26] xjjk: hmmm i just booted into kubuntu now, dint get hibernate! [08:26] genii: ah okay [08:26] titan_ark: so, yeh, odd bugs here and there [08:26] xjjk: ah okay [08:27] well, even when i was using it in the previous kernel, the audio recording was very very noisy [08:27] but just a day earlier when i was using Ubuntu karmic, i was able to set it to crystal clear recording [08:28] titan_ark: yeh... that's the fun part about kernel development [08:28] and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop screwed it up :P [08:28] latest alsa fixes, for example, won't be in the latest kernel [08:28] because alsa develops their stuff separately [08:28] hmm okay [08:28] it takes X weeks/months for the latest alsa stuff to become part of the kernel [08:28] and then X weeks/months for distributions to start using that kernel [08:29] phew [08:29] titan_ark: you can download the alsa drivers separately and compile them [08:29] i actually noticed that the options in alsa are far lesser in the kde than in ubuntu [08:30] and after last nights kernel update, some recording options have reduced [08:30] xjjk: how could i do that [08:30] ? [08:30] i have no clue [08:30] titan_ark: mmm, have you fiddled with everything else [08:30] i would appreciate it if you could run me through the steps [08:30] xjjk: i guess o [08:31] o == so [08:31] I'll take your word for it, I've never had serious sound problems [08:32] hmmm [08:32] the audio o/p works perfectly [08:32] its the mic recording that is causing all the trouble [08:32] titan_ark: does the mic work fine in windows? [08:32] titan_ark: I used on Jaunty the !intelhda instructions. Right now I use Jaunty and am testing Lucid, so have no Karmic install, etc where it might have odd issues. Exact same hardware on my box as yours [08:33] yes, crystal clear. in fact a few days back i was using Ubuntu and i could configure it in that too [08:33] just wondering, do you have an option called "mic gain" [08:33] and that's turned OFF, right? [08:34] xjjk: where exactly do you want me to check that? [08:34] alsamixer in terminal? [08:34] genii: okay [08:34] titan_ark: kmix, alsamixer, etc [08:34] xjjk: kmix just doesnt seem to come up [08:35] everytime i start it, i can see its tab open and close that is all [08:35]