[00:02] <knome> jst, i don't think that is going to be a thunar feature, at least in the near future.
[00:03] <jst> Okay, thanks.  No patches or anything I could use?
[00:06] <Rascal999> right, got an interesting problem. I need a netbook that WoL. I would like there to be no password protection when awoken via WoL, *but* would like password when booted normally
[00:06] <Rascal999> if this is not possible, is it possible to boot without password whilst in proximity of a wireless router? Just an idea
[00:10] <knome> jst, i suppose not. thunar 1.1.0 was just released and there's no such feature.
[00:11] <knome> Rascal999, sounds like something you should do and something you probably are not able to do with some heavyish hacking
[00:11] <jst> knome, okay, thank you.
[00:12] <Rascal999> knome, the router sounds easier and imo more secure against those with limited experience of linux
[00:12] <Rascal999> it would increase boot time, but a single script which scans for wireless devices then goes from there will probably suffice
[00:13] <knome> Rascal999, feel free to hack that in. that's probably never going to be uploaded into the official ubuntu repostories, though :)
[00:14] <Rascal999> lol yeah, its very specific ;)
[00:15] <jst> Anyone else realize that Pidgin's icon is Yahoo's?
[00:15] <jst> Very strange.
[00:15] <knome> jst, that's the pidgin icon from the elementary theme
[00:16] <Rascal999> i think i'll just wait the extra minute for computer to boot than WoL, i'd do it more for the awesomeness factor of waking up to a prebooted machine than for practical use
[00:16] <jst> Ahh, yes.
[02:37] <Gbotno> YO-MOMMA-SO-DAMMNED-FUCKED-UP,FREENODE-WAS-JEALOUS-CUZ-FREENODE-SUKS-COCK-A-WHOLE-LOT.YEP-FREENODE-REALLY-SUCKS-A-LOT!!YO-MOMMA-SO-DAMMNED-FUCKED-UP,FREENODE-WAS-JEALOUS-CUZ-FREENODE-SUKS-COCK-A-WHOLE-LOT.YEP-FREENODE-REALLY-SUCKS-A-LOT!!YO-MOMMA-SO-DAMMNED-FUCKED-UP,FREENODE-WAS-JEALOUS-CUZ-FREENODE-SUKS-COCK-A-WHOLE-LOT.YEP-FREENODE-REALLY-SUCKS-A-LOT!!YO-MOMMA-SO-DAMMNED-FUCKED-UP,FREENODE-WAS-JEALOUS-CUZ-FREENODE-SUKS-COCK-A-WHOLE-LOT.
[04:29] <sojo> how to maximize an apllication in system tray with terminal?
[04:39] <cody-somerville> depends on the application
[06:09] <Flea_> Does anyone know the difference between wine and Qemu?
[06:12] <psycho_oreos> wine isn't a windows emulator and qemu can handle other platforms when configured correctly
[06:12] <Sysi> qemu is used for virtualisation
[06:13] <psycho_oreos> qemu is the equivalent level of vmware or virtualbox, etc
[06:14] <Flea_> I see. So for just running windows programs, like a game or something, I should just use wine?
[06:15] <Sysi> yes, but everything don't work with it
[06:16] <psycho_oreos> more like don't expect everything to work with wine
[06:16] <Flea_> I see. So i may need to use Qwmu? Or am I just SoL?
[06:18] <psycho_oreos> you haven't described what your usage is for with either of these programs.. and no Qemu can't handle games well
[06:18] <genii> Flea_: Check the appdb of wine like I told you already in #ubuntu
[06:18] <genii> The ubottu messaged you the info
[06:19] <Flea_> I see that now, genii, sorry!
[06:19] <Flea_> Thanks for the help, everyone!
[11:31] <rkruse> Hello all
[11:32] <rkruse> test
[11:32] <rkruse> test
[15:47] <Rascal999> i installed network-manager-pptp and it works on ubuntu laptop but not on xubuntu netbook, any ideas?
[15:55] <knome> Rascal999, different version of xubuntu?
[15:55] <knome> Rascal999, maybe ubuntu has some packages that xubuntu don't?
[15:56] <Rascal999> knome, restart solved
[16:05] <simple_> slm opensors
[16:52] <tasos> hey
[16:52] <tasos> can somebody help me install wifi drivers? :|
[16:56] <likemindead> What chip, tasos?
[16:56] <tasos> intel 3945abg
[16:56] <tasos> do you know about this chip?
[16:58] <tasos> guess not :/
[17:08] <likemindead> Sorry, I was away, tasos.
[17:09] <likemindead> Let me look into it. I thought Intel chips "just worked." I have a couple that do.
[17:09] <likemindead> What version of Xubuntu?
[17:37] <gizmobay> Anyone know how to reset mousepad? As root it looks good, as a user it's zoomed funky and the navigation tab is gone. I didn't see a .mousepad file
[17:46] <charlie-tca> remove the file ~/.config/mousepad
[17:46] <charlie-tca> There is a mousepadrc file in there that should be causing the issue
[17:58] <gizmobay> thanks charlie-tca, that solved the problem
[17:58] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:58]  * charlie-tca finally got one right again
[18:00] <knome> charlie-tca, you have to get, it's against all odds you will get all of them wrong ;)
[18:00] <charlie-tca> Thanks, knome
[18:00] <charlie-tca> you seem to be right again!
[18:00] <Redaxxx> Help! I got a xubuntu laptop infront of me and I forgot the login password -facepalms- any way to get in without having to reinstall xubuntu?
[18:00] <knome> yeah. seems i can't be wrong so i must be an exception to the previous case :P
[18:01] <charlie-tca> yes, Redaxxx
[18:01] <charlie-tca> there is
[18:01] <Redaxxx> Oh, could you guide me? or link me to a guide?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> you have to go in using recovery mode and change it using passwd
[18:03] <Redaxxx> alright... How do I get the GRUB menu to show? It showed once but now it doesn't show up anymore when booting.. do I need to press anything?
[18:03] <Redaxxx> nvm, got it
[18:04] <Redaxxx> Should I 'Drop to root shell prompt'?
[18:04] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords will help,
[18:04] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:04] <charlie-tca> That should give you a root prompt, with no password required
[18:05] <Redaxxx> yeah, managed to change the pw now... thanks a lot!
[18:05] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:07] <knome> i think i'll hit the sofe.
[18:07] <knome> *sofa
[18:07] <knome> see you later
[18:08] <Sysi> sofairc ftw
[18:08] <knome> nah
[18:08] <knome> sofasnore ftw
[18:08] <knome> ->
[18:23]  * charlie-tca is frustrated; whoever decided the grub menu MUST be hidden never had problems with it. 
[18:25]  * likemindead still doesn't understand the rationale behind the new GRUB stuff...
[18:26] <charlie-tca> I don't understand the rationale behind making it more like windows
[18:26] <charlie-tca> I just broke the keyboard trying to get the grub menu to show up at all
[18:27] <Sysi> it can't be kicked of from xubuntu?
[18:27] <Sysi> the splash screen
[18:28] <Sysi> it's eyecandy, but meh
[18:28] <charlie-tca> I need the grub menu, did an encrypted install, then a normal install, no way to see the menu now
[18:28] <charlie-tca> I don't need a splash screen
[18:29] <charlie-tca> Can  not start the encrypted session, because there is no way to choose it
[18:38] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca, you able to get to the GRUB 2 menu?
[18:39] <charlie-tca> no
[18:39] <Pres-Gas> Hold down the shift key
[18:39] <charlie-tca> not even a little bit
[18:39] <charlie-tca> I changed the options in /etc/default/grub and still can't get it
[18:39] <Pres-Gas> Left shift
[18:39] <Pres-Gas> Do it just before the bios hands off to grub
[18:40] <charlie-tca> Left shift, right shift, esc, fkeys, option to show it, nothing works
[18:40] <Pres-Gas> Your window of time is not big, but it works
[18:40]  * charlie-tca thinks the broken coffee cup did not help, either
[18:41] <charlie-tca> It won't work, not even changing options to show the menu worked
[18:42] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca, I suspect you may have these docs, but for the benefit of those in the audience:
[18:42] <Pres-Gas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[18:42] <Pres-Gas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:35] <faheem_> anyone awake?
[19:35] <cody-somerville> Sure.
[19:36] <faheem_> Hello i am using Xubuntu, my screen resolution seems to be too high as i cant see the entire desktop on my laptop screen.. any ideas on how to solve
[19:37] <faheem_> any ideas cody-somerville?
[19:37] <cody-somerville> faheem_, Applications > Settings > Display
[19:38] <cody-somerville> That'll let you change your resolution.
[19:38] <faheem_> no display cody-somerville
[19:38] <cody-somerville> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[19:38] <faheem_> has settings manager though
[19:38] <faheem_> no idea lol...
[19:38] <cody-somerville> Okay, click that and click display in there
[19:40] <pdg1> anyone who has used rtorrent understand what a session is?
[19:40] <faheem_> ok awesome
[19:41] <faheem_> i sorted it... i didnt realise that when i updated my ubuntu it allowed me to change resoltion
[19:41] <faheem_> on 8.04 it didnt allow me to change it
[19:42] <faheem_> thanks cody-somerville and bye
[19:43] <pdg1> cool
[19:44] <pdg1> I'm guessing that means everyone else uses something else for torrents or nothing at all
[19:49] <Flea_> Having trouble installing Wine. Can anyone help me?
[19:52] <Flea_> Is anyone here? I really need help
[19:52] <Sysi> !ask
[19:53] <Flea_> Ok, sorry.
[19:54] <Flea_> When I try to install wine, i get a message that says "Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first." I'm not sure why this happens and I asked on the wine channel. They told me to come here.
[19:55] <genii> Flea_: sudo apt-get install -f                     then go back to trying to install wine
[19:55] <Flea_> Thanks, genii. I'll try that
[19:56] <Flea_> That did not work, genii.
[19:57] <Flea_> I got the same error message when trying to install.
[19:57] <genii> Flea_: Did it give you some error in the apt-get install -f, or just go back to $ prompt?
[19:58] <Flea_> no, it said that 0 packages were removed.
[19:59] <genii> Flea_: OK. So EXACTLY what is the error it says?
[20:00] <Flea_> Well, i'm getting some support from the wine channel now. They intially turned me away but then someone else came in and said it was a bug and that I would need to install it from the source?
[20:01]  * jarnos just lost audio when he installed gnome-media in Karmic. Uninstalling does not help.
[20:05] <charlie-tca> pdg1: ask SiDi when he's around.
[20:58] <pdg1> thanks charlie-tca
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Now the problem is to catch up with SiDi
[21:18] <simple_> hi there
[21:18] <simple_> how can i install my microsoft media center edition keyboard set on ubuntu
[21:19] <vinnl> !keyboard
[21:19] <vinnl> Hmm, should just work I suppose
[21:21] <simple_> no it doesnt work yet
[21:21] <simple_> i install lirc
[21:21] <simple_> trying
[21:21] <charlie-tca> Might be one of those hardware items that not everything will work. Maybe you can only use it as a keyboard?
[21:24] <simple_> i think i found a solution
[21:24] <simple_> just trying, if i can, i will inform you
[21:41] <jj3> hi guys.  i am trying to set up xubuntu on a poweredge sc1450.  the hard drive is not seen in hardware raid 1.
[21:42] <chippanfat> using ubuntu server 9.04, with xubuntu desktop installed, I have an ethernet cable in the back but the icon at the top of the screen next to the time says that the machine isnt connected to the internet, I tried editing the /etc/network/interfaces file to see if my dns address was wrong but thats all fine. Any one have any idea ? :(
[21:43] <charlie-tca> chippanfat: that's because the network manager in 9.04 is looking at the wireless connections and DHCP only
[21:44] <charlie-tca> It is possible to have a good connection with the icon showing you have none
[21:44] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: how would i go about sorting that out? :) and it cant display any pagess
[21:45] <charlie-tca> How do you connect? Do you use a static IP?
[21:45] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: in firefox that is. last time i had this problem i just unplugged and plugged the ethernet cable back in
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Sounds like it worked, right?
[21:45] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: thats what i done on my ftp server
[21:46] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: and i'm trying to set up a proxy server this time, and i'm having no luck with the connections
[21:46] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: i know how to set a static Ip, but at this point in time it is still dynamic
[21:46] <charlie-tca> I think to set that up, you have to set up the firewall, don't you?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu has no open ports as installed, so if you need to, you have to open the port for the proxy
[21:48] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: sorry, i've not explained it rightt. its still a fresh install of ubuntu server 9.04 with the gui installed ontop. But i've been trying to get the connection to work for most of the night
[21:48] <charlie-tca> jj3: you may find the poweredge hardware raid doesn't work at all in this. You would then have to use a software raid instead, I think
[21:49] <charlie-tca> chippanfat: I set all of mine up static
[21:49] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: is it worth me trying that first? :)
[21:50] <charlie-tca> I would. Don't you plan to use static ip's?
[21:51] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: I do :) all the machines are static and my ftp server is static
[21:51] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: but i'm trying to sort this net connection before I start doing the other stuff :)
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Then why would you expect this one to connect without setting that up?
[21:51] <charlie-tca> You need to set it up first.
[21:52] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: awhh right, the only reason i thought i was in a pickle is because when i started doing the ftp server, the connection was detected straight away and the icon showed me that it was connected too
[21:53] <chippanfat> charlie-tca: then i started going about static ip's and installing gadmin
[21:53] <jj3> can anyone help me?
[21:53] <charlie-tca> NM lies
[21:53] <charlie-tca> jj3: you may find the poweredge hardware raid doesn't work at all in this. You would then have to use a software raid instead, I think
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Also, jj3, the server section might be more help on that. You can ask them on freenode at #ubuntu-server
[21:54] <charlie-tca> jj3: We don't have much experience here with poweredge
[21:54] <jj3> can i use the redhat or suse drivers on xubuntu
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Not that I know of
[21:55] <jj3> why not
[21:55] <charlie-tca> I don't think it is compatible
[21:56] <charlie-tca> You can try if you want, but I don't think it will work
[21:56] <knome> charlie-tca, maybe with the driver source and hacking skills?
[21:56] <charlie-tca> You might ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:57] <charlie-tca> knome: if you have the skills, anything is possible. People have even upgraded from debian-unstable to xubuntu. That doesn't mean it is supported, and it doesn't mean I can.
[21:57] <charlie-tca> Thus, "I don't think it..."
[21:57] <knome> well of course you could write the drivers for ubuntu on your own, but maybe porting existing drivers would still be easier
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Comes back to the same thing. Can I use...? not that "I" know...
[21:59]  * charlie-tca thinks that "not that I know" indicates lack of knowledge by me
[21:59] <knome> well what DO you know anyway ;)
[21:59] <knome> mm, some prepared juice
[22:00] <charlie-tca> knome: can you help jj3 on the poweredge raid issue?
[22:00] <knome> charlie-tca, no, not really.
[22:00] <knome> i lack knowledge as well :)
[22:25] <BeepBeep> How does one change the name of a "Workspace" in the panel?
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Workspaces
[22:28] <BeepBeep> Thanks appreciate it..
[22:28] <charlie-tca> no problem
[22:56] <becker_11> hey charlie-tca
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Hello, becker_11
[22:58] <becker_11> I'm looking for a way to mount my windows drives in xubuntu when I had gnome installed they showed up in the places menu and when I clicked on them I had to supply a password to mount them but nothing like that seems to be included in Xu
[23:02] <charlie-tca> xubuntu is slightly more work. You create the directory where you want to mount them, then add them to fstab, then they should automoutn
[23:04] <becker_11> charlie-tca,  okay I'm not too familiar with the file system yet is there a place I should mount the drives? the prefered folder or something?
[23:04] <knome> becker_11, /mnt or /media would be "preferred"/"usual"
[23:05] <knome> no limit though.
[23:05] <becker_11> thanks knome
[23:05]  * charlie-tca thinks spilling the coffee today was really bad
[23:05] <knome> charlie-tca, um? :)
[23:06] <becker_11> charlie-tca, you shouldn't waste coffee mate
[23:06] <charlie-tca> spilled my coffee and broke the cup doing it. All over my desk; two keyboards, 1 monitor, 1 mouse, two speakers
[23:06] <charlie-tca> Seems to have broken things
[23:06] <knome> charlie-tca, sorry to hear.
[23:06] <charlie-tca> me too
[23:07] <charlie-tca> Hate wasting the coffee (hated breaking the cup even)
[23:07]  * charlie-tca thinks in all fairness, the desk needed to be cleaned
[23:08]  * becker_11 thinks coffee isn't the best cleaning agent :-)
[23:09] <charlie-tca> it depends... it was hot, it was black, no sugar
[23:09] <charlie-tca> and the desk is dark brown
[23:09] <charlie-tca> :-)
[23:09] <knome> hehe
[23:09] <knome> good choice then
[23:10] <becker_11> ma grandma always had black coffee but I've never liked it .....
[23:10] <charlie-tca> It is a plus when you spill it. Sugar is real sticky
[23:11] <becker_11> true
[23:11] <charlie-tca> of course, the phone, speakers, etc, did not care either way
[23:28] <becker_11> okay I found a ubuntu tutorial for adding files to the fstab and created the folders etc and mounted everything but the mount points are empty
[23:28] <becker_11> here is the fstab line I entered /dev/sda1 /media/win_c ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_AU.utf8 0 0
[23:28] <charlie-tca> you remembered to add /media/win_c as directories?
[23:29] <becker_11> yeah
[23:29] <charlie-tca> in terminal, enter 'mount -a'
[23:29] <becker_11> seems to have worked
[23:30] <charlie-tca> Then it should work when you restart
[23:30] <becker_11> awesome! opened thunar and everything is there
[23:30] <charlie-tca> but if it don't...
[23:30] <charlie-tca> :-)