| mhall119 | sbalneav, do I remember correctly that you're a Gnome developer? | 00:01 |
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| Ahmuck | any suggestions for webdav/caldav/groupdav? | 00:54 |
| Ahmuck | i've looked at a couple, sogo, bedework | 00:55 |
| Ahmuck | iirc, one of them can work in conjuction with moodle | 00:55 |
| Ahmuck | and schooltool | 00:55 |
| mhall119 | I think there is an apache module for webdav | 01:57 |
| sbalneav | mhall119: Yes | 05:15 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: we have an issue ;) | 05:15 |
| sbalneav | what's up? | 05:16 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: basically, if sabayon is installed you never get to a gnome desktop | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | !? | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | I've got it installed right now | 05:16 |
| stgraber | I've been doing test rebuild for the last 2 hours and I'm currently dropping sabayon off the seed and meta so we can get a working alpha-2 | 05:16 |
| stgraber | yeah, on a desktop it's fine | 05:16 |
| stgraber | it's failing in the live environment | 05:17 |
| sbalneav | Oh, ok, I've never tested it there. | 05:17 |
| stgraber | only issue is that it's extremely difficult to debug ... | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | does the current dvd have it on? | 05:18 |
| stgraber | if you happen to have the image 20100103 you'll notice the issue, for testing I rebuilt that same image myself => still the use, then without sabayon => working desktop | 05:18 |
| stgraber | yeah, that's why I've been rushing to drop it so we at least have a bootable alpha-2 | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | k, how do I rsync the current dvd so I can test it. | 05:19 |
| stgraber | actually, I've been spending two hours trying to debug it before choosing to drop it off the dvd ;) | 05:19 |
| sbalneav | it's the apply that'll be failing | 05:19 |
| stgraber | that's what I suspected too but it's not the case and that's where it gets very very weird | 05:19 |
| stgraber | I have an image here with sabayon installed, the Xsession.d script removed and it's still failing to load a desktop | 05:20 |
| sbalneav | well, it has to be the sabayon-apply, that's the only thing that would get run | 05:20 |
| alkisg | Good morning guys. What ltsp version is in alpha-2? Is the one with the ldm segfaulting problem fixed? (the 2 nbd-client processes) - some people are asking to test the fat clients script... | 05:20 |
| stgraber | alkisg: I didn't upload a new ltsp yet, I'll be doing that after alpha-2 is released | 05:20 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: rsync -tzhhP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/edubuntu/dvd/20100113/lucid-dvd-i386.iso . | 05:21 |
| stgraber | that'll get you the broken image | 05:21 |
| stgraber | it's been confirmed on both amd64 and i386 | 05:21 |
| alkisg | Ugh so it's broken :( ok I'll tell them to wait for a new LTSP upload, and to update before installing ltsp. | 05:21 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: ok, rsyncing now | 05:21 |
| sbalneav | just go ahead and drop it, I'll figure out what's causing the failure. | 05:22 |
| alkisg | stgraber: I'd like to test and do the 010-fat-client => 030-fat-client commit before your next ltsp upload, do I have 1-2 days to do so? | 05:22 |
| stgraber | alkisg: I'm planning on uploading it tomorrow afternoon, once I've nbd-proxy running properly, so for you that's almost a day ;) | 05:23 |
| alkisg | It'll suffice, thanks :) | 05:24 |
| sbalneav | I was figuring if it was on the disk it would install on the text based installer. I wasn't expecting it to be in the live environment. | 05:24 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: we added it to the edubuntu-desktop package as a recommends, so it's everywhere | 05:24 |
| sbalneav | ah | 05:24 |
| sbalneav | well, if it's breaking things on live, by all means, ditch it. | 05:24 |
| * sbalneav scratches head | 05:25 | |
| alkisg | sbalneav: there isn't any >= 1000 uid user on the live cd, would that matter? | 05:25 |
| stgraber | I'm doing some tests here, trying to alter a broken image during its boot sequence so I can debug it | 05:25 |
| sbalneav | sabayon-apply pretty much just bails if there's no users.xml or groups.xml | 05:25 |
| stgraber | regenering a whole DVD image takes me almost an hour so it makes debugging extremely painful ;) | 05:25 |
| sbalneav | right. | 05:25 |
| sbalneav | for debugging, could we mount -bind something ? I'm assuming you can log in on a text console | 05:26 |
| stgraber | you can't logon | 05:26 |
| stgraber | vt1 is a broken X, vt2 is some console showing "Authentication failure", vt7 is another broken X | 05:26 |
| stgraber | other VTs are dead | 05:27 |
| sbalneav | ouch | 05:27 |
| stgraber | yeah, I'm really wondering how sabayon can do that ;) | 05:27 |
| stgraber | because I get all VTs working correctly once it's gone ;) | 05:27 |
| sbalneav | shouldn't be possible | 05:27 |
| stgraber | ok, found a way to change a broken DVD at boot time, let's try to get some debug info ;) | 05:27 |
| sbalneav | geez, teach me to take an evening off to go to Robbie Burns night at lodge :) | 05:28 |
| stgraber | only thing I get is "Authentication failure" repeated 10 times on vt1 and broken X ... | 05:29 |
| stgraber | let's reboot and drop sabayon, then I'll try dropping the sabayon user and group, then the python code, then ... | 05:29 |
| stgraber | alkisg: we'll need some iso testing during night here in Canada, will you be able to test the Edubuntu DVD images ? | 05:30 |
| stgraber | alkisg: if you have already one somewhere, you can use the command I gave sbalneav to update it | 05:31 |
| stgraber | alkisg: I'd really like to have an Edubuntu alpha-2 release as we didn't have alpha-1 and we are very very close to release time | 05:31 |
| alkisg | stgraber: will do. When should I rsync? In a few hours? | 05:32 |
| stgraber | alkisg: look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/edubuntu/all | 05:33 |
| alkisg | OK, I have the amd64 version, I'll test that. | 05:33 |
| stgraber | I just marked them both as invalid, they'll be marked as ready for testing once they are rebuilt | 05:34 |
| stgraber | ok, Xsession.d is really not at fault, trying to drop the user and group now | 05:34 |
| sbalneav | if [ "$1" = "configure" ] ; then | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | if ! getent group sabayon-admin >/dev/null; then | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | groupadd --system sabayon-admin | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | fi | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | if ! getent passwd sabayon-admin >/dev/null; then | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | useradd --system --home /var/run/sabayon-admin \ | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | -c "Sabayon user" --gid sabayon-admin sabayon-admin | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | mkdir -p /var/run/sabayon-admin | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | chown sabayon-admin:sabayon-admin /var/run/sabayon-admin | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | fi | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | fi | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | that's the postinst for sabayon | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | which is what it's been, packaging wise, for a while | 05:38 |
| sbalneav | the only thing I've done to the postinst is add --system | 05:39 |
| sbalneav | since the user and groupids should be < 1000 | 05:39 |
| sbalneav | I notice on my system the userid and groupid are 999, which is unusual for a system id | 05:42 |
| sbalneav | could that be a problem? what's the live user's id? | 05:43 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: on removal, it says that the sabayon-admin group doesn't exist | 05:45 |
| stgraber | and if I remove sabayon after the initramfs script it still doesn't work | 05:45 |
| stgraber | so something is conflicting with sabayon inside the initramfs ... | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | Well, I don't know how live cds actualy work, but as a normal package, it doesn't put anything anywhere CLOSE to an initramfs. | 05:46 |
| stgraber | ok, seems like the ubuntu user isn't getting created for some reason | 05:47 |
| sbalneav | it's gotta be something with the userids and group ids or homedir it creates | 05:47 |
| stgraber | uid is 999 | 05:49 |
| stgraber | for the livecd user | 05:49 |
| stgraber | and so is sabayon-admin's | 05:49 |
| stgraber | the uid for the livecd user is hardcoded in the script | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | how's sabayon getting 999 | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | hmm | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | other scripts seem to use adduser | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | wheras the sabayon postinst uses useradd | 05:51 |
| stgraber | no idea but that's the uid it got when installed in the live environment ... | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | ok, if I update the postinst, and push something to my ppa, do we have enough time to try? | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | or are you ready to collapse | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | this can wait 'till the next alpha | 05:52 |
| stgraber | we won't make it for alpha-2, the DVD is already building and it takes at least two hours before we can retry another one | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | ok, well, we know what the problem is: faulty sabayon postinst | 05:52 |
| stgraber | though I'd like to have that fixed ASAP so the next DVD build after alpha-2 can be tested to make sure we have that fixed | 05:53 |
| sbalneav | I'll fix it right now | 05:53 |
| sbalneav | gimme 10 | 05:53 |
| stgraber | well, calling useradd isn't "wrong", adduser is a debian-specific script on top of useradd | 05:54 |
| stgraber | what I just don't get is why --system assigns the highest uid and not the lowest | 05:54 |
| stgraber | though all packages seem to use adduser | 05:57 |
| stgraber | so let's use adduser and it'll fix everything (at least it should) | 05:57 |
| stgraber | oh, or just add: -K UID_MIN=1 | 05:58 |
| stgraber | that should fix the issue | 05:58 |
| stgraber | nope, doesn't work, just use adduser ;) | 06:00 |
| sbalneav | yep, one sec | 06:00 |
| stgraber | and also use addgroup instead of groupadd | 06:01 |
| stgraber | as the gid will be the next issue we'll have otherwise ;) (I noticed it's also 999 so would also conflict) | 06:01 |
| sbalneav | I've just converted it to a adduser --group | 06:03 |
| sbalneav | single lne | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | Stole it from the nbd postinst script | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | package is building now | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | works | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | uids are low now | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | 118 or so | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | on my box here | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | what's faster, grabbing something from my ppa, or me pasting the postinst here | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | #!/bin/sh | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | set -e | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | if [ "$1" = "configure" ] ; then | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | if ! id sabayon-admin >/dev/null 2>&1; then | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | adduser --system --group --home /var/run/sabayon-admin \ | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | sabayon-admin | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | fi | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | fi | 06:08 |
| sbalneav | #DEBHELPER# | 06:08 |
| stgraber | I can upload that in like 10s | 06:08 |
| stgraber | though we found what was causing useradd to use 999 | 06:08 |
| stgraber | it's a bug in /etc/login.defs | 06:08 |
| sbalneav | ah, so we've uncovered a bug in another program with our packaging :) | 06:09 |
| sbalneav | geez, stgraber, this has caused you a headache for sure. Man, am I sorry. | 06:09 |
| stgraber | no problem ;) | 06:10 |
| stgraber | slangasek and persia are now debating about adduser and useradd not respecting /etc/login.defs and having their own configuration ;) | 06:11 |
| sbalneav | the original packaging from the old programs used useradd, but before, they didn't use --system | 06:11 |
| stgraber | something is clearly broken and will need fixing | 06:11 |
| sbalneav | you must have had that convo in the secret ubuntu-dev channel | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | it's not in regular ubuntu-devel :) | 06:12 |
| stgraber | it's in ubuntu-testing actually ;) | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | ah | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | heh | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | so does that seem to fix things? | 06:15 |
| sbalneav | spose we'll have to wait till the next daily build :( | 06:15 |
| stgraber | it should | 06:15 |
| sbalneav | so we won't have this for alpha 2 then. | 06:16 |
| stgraber | ok, sabayon uploaded | 06:16 |
| stgraber | nope, we won't have it for alpha-2 but we'll have the build just after and people updating their alpha-2 will get it too | 06:17 |
| sbalneav | perfect. | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Well another bug squashed. | 06:18 |
| sbalneav | Sabayon seems cursed. | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | broken like heck, fix it. | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | Sabayon works, gksu breaks. | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | fix that | 06:19 |
| sbalneav | sabayon works, gksu works, useradd breaks :) | 06:19 |
| stgraber | hehe | 06:20 |
| * stgraber goes to revert his change on the seed + meta | 06:21 | |
| stgraber | seed done | 06:22 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: Next BTS, all your drinks and dinners are on me :) | 06:28 |
| sbalneav | ok, the old fart's exhausted | 06:28 |
| sbalneav | I'm off to bed, you get some sleep too | 06:28 |
| stgraber | good night :) | 06:29 |
| stgraber | drings and dinners, sounds interesting :) I'll need to make a note of that ;) | 06:29 |
| stgraber | *drings (yeah, it's late) | 06:30 |
| stgraber | *drinks (..... keyboard) | 06:30 |
| alkisg | highvolt1ge: I think the edubuntu live dvd is still broken due to sabayon, can you help? (e.g. remove it from the seeds)? | 10:54 |
| alkisg | Or should we wait for stgraber? | 10:54 |
| alkisg | (it'll be too late then, won't it?) | 10:54 |
| highvolt1ge | alkisg: my sync will finish shortly then I could test as well, but stgraber will have to make the seed changes | 12:25 |
| alkisg | highvolt1ge: ok, that was with the i386 build, I'll try now with the amd64 one | 12:26 |
| ogra | you guys should really subscribe to lucid-changes ;) | 12:27 |
| ogra | edubuntu-meta (1.76) lucid; urgency=low | 12:27 |
| ogra | * Refreshed dependencies | 12:27 |
| ogra | * Added sabayon to desktop-gnome-recommends | 12:27 |
| ogra | seems he just added it today | 12:28 |
| alkisg | ogra: he removed it because it broke autologin and then added it right afterwards because they supposedly found a fix :-/ | 12:29 |
| ogra | ah | 12:29 |
| alkisg | But that fix was in useradd or something like that (stgraber talked to some ubuntu devs in #ubuntu-testing, I didn't see the convo) | 12:30 |
| ogra | sabayon (2.29.5~rc1-0ubuntu2) lucid; urgency=low | 12:30 |
| ogra | * Change postinst to user adduser instead of useradd (by Scott Balneaves). | 12:30 |
| ogra | (Fixes Live CD bug where sabayon would have the same UID as the live user) | 12:30 |
| alkisg | Anyway now sabayon user id = 999, the same as the live user id, and that makes login impossible | 12:30 |
| ogra | check if your iso has that sabayon version on it | 12:30 |
| alkisg | k | 12:31 |
| mhall119 | sbalneav, jono just posted that Canonical is looking to hire a couple Gnome devs | 12:31 |
| alkisg | ogra, I got a question though, "how can I check sabayon version in a CD where I cannot login?" :D | 12:32 |
| alkisg | Mount iso, mount squashfs and chroot? | 12:32 |
| ogra | the manifest file | 12:33 |
| alkisg | Ah, looking... | 12:33 |
| ogra | on cdimage where you downloaded your iso ;) | 12:33 |
| ogra | (manifest for live, .list file for alternate) | 12:33 |
| alkisg | sabayon 2.29.5~rc1-0ubuntu1 | 12:34 |
| alkisg | Hmmm so the cd spin whatsyamacallit that stgraber did before he slept didn't get the new version | 12:35 |
| alkisg | highvolt1ge: so we need to request a new build of the dvd... | 12:37 |
| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| highvoltage | stgraber: eek, did you get much sleep at all? | 12:53 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: a bit over 4 hours ;) | 13:15 |
| stgraber | alkisg: I requested another respin, we should have another image in 1-2 hours including a working sabayon | 13:16 |
| stgraber | sbalneav will be happy ;) | 13:16 |
| alkisg | stgraber: nice! Now get back to bed :) | 13:17 |
| stgraber | nah, I'm at the office now, starting to work for a full day + server hardware change this evening so I'll be leaving quite late ;) | 13:19 |
| alkisg | While trying the new fat client script, I'm getting a lot of those messages, should I be worrying? | 13:24 |
| alkisg | debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3) | 13:24 |
| stgraber | as long as it's during ltsp-build-client, that's fine | 13:26 |
| alkisg | Yes, and it complains about initializing the passthough environment. Thanks, I'll ignore it | 13:26 |
| dgroos | Good morning | 13:48 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: any objections on commiting this updated fat client script in a while, when I'm done testing? http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m7bc4e0c5 | 13:50 |
| dgroos | I'm still getting no success with iTALC--I still get the message: Somebody tried to access this computer but could not authenticate itself successfuly! I've done a complete removal of iTALC, I've tried installing both on the server and on the client--no luck. Currently I'm installed on the client. | 13:50 |
| dgroos | googling hasn't helped, nor has this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc. I'm guessing it's a key problem, but don't know how to check/fix. | 13:55 |
| alkisg | dgroos, alpha 2 is to be out in a few hours, so if you don't get enough help on troubleshooting iTalc today, try again tomorrow | 13:55 |
| alkisg | That wiki page needs to be deleted :D | 13:55 |
| alkisg | Usually `sudo apt-get install italc-master` on the server, and logoff/logon is ALL that is needed. | 13:55 |
| alkisg | But people start installing it to the chroot and things get complicated... :) | 13:55 |
| dgroos | I'll purge and give a re-try, thanks. | 13:56 |
| dgroos | Good luck everyone on alpha 2--Thanks for your work! | 13:56 |
| alkisg | Also try a complete reboot to make sure there aren't hang processes around | 13:56 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: that looks much nicer! | 14:03 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: thanks | 14:03 |
| * sbalneav hugs stgraber | 14:50 | |
| sbalneav | stgraber: how late were you up last night? | 14:50 |
| sbalneav | ogra | 14:51 |
| sbalneav | alkisg | 14:51 |
| alkisg | Hi sbalneav | 14:52 |
| sbalneav | the problem was, sabayon was using useradd for adding users | 14:52 |
| sbalneav | but useradd wasn't respecting login.defs, and so was creating the sabayon user as uid 999 | 14:52 |
| sbalneav | which is what the live cd's hard-code the live id to be. | 14:52 |
| alkisg | I saw that much, but was useradd fixed?!! | 14:52 |
| sbalneav | No, don't think so. | 14:53 |
| alkisg | I thought the debian utils didn't respect login.defs by design... | 14:53 |
| alkisg | (/etc/adduser.conf) | 14:53 |
| * ogra loks up from bootloader hacking | 14:53 | |
| ogra | oh, hi sbalneav :) | 14:53 |
| alkisg | ogra, bootloader? Are we going to have a new syslinux version? :P :D | 14:53 |
| ogra | alkisg, u-boot ... | 14:54 |
| ogra | all ARM stuff | 14:54 |
| * alkisg gets his arm dictionary... | 14:54 | |
| sbalneav | anywho, most other postinsts seem to use adduser and not useradd, so I just converted it to that. | 14:55 |
| sbalneav | I've never changed much in the packaging, other than the deps as they've changed. | 14:55 |
| sbalneav | so that's a bug that's been there a while. | 14:56 |
| sbalneav | but seeing as how sabayon's been broken for 3+ years... :) | 14:56 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: 2am or so | 14:57 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: well since postinst is a debian thing anyway, it makes sense to use adduser... I'll resync in a few hours and test again :) | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: You young kids and your stamina :) | 15:02 |
| alkisg | Hmm can some guru help here? http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m2f291da6 | 15:04 |
| alkisg | That's right after the fat client script tries to run `tasksel install ubuntu-desktop` | 15:04 |
| alkisg | 030-fat-client: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m21c6359a | 15:05 |
| ogra | alkisg, isnt APT_GET_OPTS already set properly ? | 15:09 |
| ogra | oh, you re-enable it | 15:09 |
| ogra | nm | 15:09 |
| alkisg | ogra, it is, should I use apt-get $APT_GET_OPTS install ubuntu-desktop instead of tasksel? | 15:10 |
| ogra | n o, tasksel is the right way | 15:10 |
| ogra | i wonder if you couldnt do the last step a bit more elegantly with a file in /usr/share/gconf-defaults/ | 15:12 |
| stgraber | Edubuntu 14.1 is on the mirror now | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | so we made it in for alpha-2 even with the sabayon respin? | 15:14 |
| ogra | sbalneav, non-official distros can even make A2 tomorrow | 15:15 |
| * sbalneav dances with ogra maniacally | 15:15 | |
| * sbalneav give stgraber a big wet sloppy kiss | 15:15 | |
| sbalneav | \o/ | 15:15 |
| * ogra grins | 15:15 | |
| stgraber | sbalneav: looks like we did yeah | 15:16 |
| ogra | congrats guys ! | 15:17 |
| alkisg | ogra, about the file, that's why I put a # TODO there. The problem is the apt dying without explanations :-( | 15:17 |
| alkisg | Congrats everyone :) | 15:19 |
| alkisg | Can I spawn a shell with all the environment variables at that point? | 15:19 |
| ogra | alkisg, well, "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" ... why did it fail, the error must be either above or in a log | 15:20 |
| ogra | the umount is only fallout | 15:20 |
| ogra | just add a line to your plugin that does it ... | 15:20 |
| ogra | before the tsksel runs | 15:20 |
| ogra | then run it manually | 15:20 |
| * alkisg looks at /opt/ltsp/i386/var/log/apt/history.log ... | 15:21 | |
| alkisg | Ugh, I can't find anything useful there, so I'll just call a `sh` at that point. | 15:22 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: so these are the 14.1 images right? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ | 15:58 |
| stgraber | yep | 15:58 |
| highvoltage | it should be a quick sync at least :) | 15:59 |
| alkisg | Damn when I spawn a shell during ltsp-build-client, and run tasksel manuall from there, everything works fine, I even get a whiptail GUI... :-/ | 16:23 |
| sbalneav | ok, I've officially (in my upstream roll) released 2.29.5 | 17:08 |
| sbalneav | or sabayon | 17:08 |
| highvoltage | my rsync is taking way longer than expected :/ | 17:13 |
| ogra | you wanted a DVD ;) | 17:17 |
| highvoltage | heh :D | 17:20 |
| stgraber | sent 448.44K bytes received 359.61M bytes 261.94K bytes/sec | 17:25 |
| stgraber | so you need 360MB to get from 13.1 to 14.1 | 17:25 |
| highvoltage | I synced with 14.0 earlier though | 17:27 |
| alkisg | stgraber: I tested the amd64 version and seems fine, do I need to "submit" my test results somewhere? | 17:36 |
| highvoltage | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/edubuntu/all | 17:36 |
| ogra | alkisg, isotracker | 17:36 |
| alkisg | Uh, I prolly have to test teh "Install (debian-installer LTSP)" stuff as noone did it yet | 17:37 |
| alkisg | "Enter your Ubuntu QA username." ? | 17:39 |
| ogra | thats where you type in your ubuntu QA username :) | 17:40 |
| alkisg | So much for the openid launchpad stuff :) | 17:40 |
| ogra | finally a proper avatar summary http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz268/fotoslamenza/Fotos-fds/43/photopodborka_152.jpg :) | 17:44 |
| highvoltage | *g* | 17:46 |
| * alkisg gives up on `tasksel install edubuntu-desktop-gnome`, I can't find any logs about the "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" problem anywhere... :( | 18:59 | |
| highvoltage | so alternate i386 fails | 21:23 |
| highvoltage | (with LTSP installation) | 21:23 |
| highvoltage | it can't find the package ltsp-server-standalong | 21:23 |
| ogra | is it in the pool dir ? | 21:24 |
| ogra | or completely missing from the CD | 21:24 |
| highvoltage | one moment... | 21:24 |
| highvoltage | ogra: seems that it's not in the pool directory | 21:25 |
| ogra | well, then its missing from the seed somehow | 21:25 |
| highvoltage | ogra: in pool/main/l/ltsp there's an ltsp-client-builder and ltsp-server, but not ltsp-server-standalone | 21:25 |
| ogra | at this point thats rather something for a release note though, talk to slangasek (when he gets up again) | 21:26 |
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| highvoltage | ok | 21:27 |
| ogra | and prepare some text for a note :) | 21:27 |
| highvoltage | "Whatever you do, don't choose the LTSP option from the installer!!!!" | 21:28 |
| ogra | heh | 21:28 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: we shouldn't even have that LTSP install option anymore, so it's really not an issue, we should just release note it | 22:08 |
| stgraber | we only have ltsp-server on the DVD as it's what will be needed for LTSP once it's moved to the live environment and dropped from the on-dvd archive | 22:08 |
| stgraber | and only reason why the on-dvd archive still contains everything is because I haven't found a way to get rid of that extra 1.5GB of package ... | 22:08 |
| nixternal | oi oi edubuntu'erz!! | 22:13 |
| nixternal | I have had the week from hell...I have done so much work, but I couldn't tell you what the heck I did :/ | 22:14 |
| nixternal | I checked out Edubuntu docs and started to cry a little bit :( needs a bit of work, but I don't think it needs a ton of work, considering we can leverage ubuntu-docs, though we might want to actually fork their docs and change screenshots, or something like that | 22:15 |
| nixternal | actually, not fork them, because they have translations, maybe have edubuntu-docs install ubuntu-docs first, and then replace screenshot images...if it is at all that important, as they look the same except for color | 22:16 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: ok | 22:23 |
| highvoltage | nixternal: I don't think people are too picky about wallpapers, since that's the first thing most people change anyway | 22:25 |
| highvoltage | nixternal: I guess we should have a docs day too | 22:25 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: we did mention planning one at some point after FF | 22:26 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: indeed, wow and it's crawling closer ever faster | 22:26 |
| highvoltage | nixternal: I think it's just been one of those kind of weeks | 22:27 |
| nixternal | that it has...trying to finish up a ton of stuff before FF | 22:34 |
| nixternal | have about 10 MIRs I have yet to do :) | 22:34 |
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