[00:20] hi nayone can help right a script backing file usng SFTP by mobing it to a windows cleint pc === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:38] heyho, i have a problem, tomcat does not resolv localhost, please see this pastebin for more details -> http://pastebin.ca/1750421 === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:17] smoser: hi! [01:17] smoser: I've noticed you've send the minutes for the meeting [01:18] smoser: I don't think you have access to the ubuntuserver blog [01:18] smoser: do you have a wordpress.com account? [01:22] hi guys [01:22] can someone help me look through a strace log? http://codepad.org/0NKWBlJH - the O_TRUNC line doesn't make sense and is giving me grief [01:23] *make sense to me === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === LyghtFyre is now known as Aiden [02:08] guys, there are some important options missing (imho) in the jvm options for tomcat inside the initscripts -> -DenableLookups=true -Dsun.net.spi.nameservice.provider.1=dns,sun === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [02:28] crazy_im1: file a bug report [02:29] is there any specific bugtracker related to the ubuntu-server distribution? [02:30] Ubuntu uses launchpad. [02:30] There's a GUI tool called "apport" you can use to help you report bugs, I don't know if it has a tty version. [02:31] hmpf [02:31] btw, why is there no sshd installed by default? [02:31] Why should sshd be installed by default? [02:33] because, if you setup a server installation, you normally just say, go and come back later using ssh? [02:33] If you say so. [02:33] You can of course check the "be an SSH server" during the tasksel step, near the end of the install. [02:34] and using dhcp is a nice feature, but i would expect to have a choice between static ip and dhcp if i setup something, maybe i've got asked and didn't noticed it, dunno right now [02:34] just saw tomcat and hit go ;) [02:35] sorry for the rant, but this system eat away some hours of my time :/ [02:39] twb: how do you manage your headless machines? [02:42] i'm having trouble setting up bind9 on ubuntu server 9.x anyone listening? [02:42] crazy_im1: It's Ubuntu policy to have the default installation have no open ports listening to the outside world. That's why no sshd by default. [02:42] ScottK: how about installing it anyways, so you just have to enable it? [02:43] Not any difference between the access you need to start it and to install it. It's also policy that packages should be operational after install except in the unusual case where there is no sane default. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [02:44] crazy_im1: with SSH, puppet, or a serial console. [02:45] FWIW, I would prefer if openssh-server was *not* installed by default, *and* only bound to the loopback interface by default. [02:45] cannot remember that i've changed the interface for sshd [02:46] crazy_im1: it's not the case. [02:47] bind9. anyone know anytthing about bind9? [02:52] laughyNinja: sorry, I use dnsmasq. [02:59] k. i'll go jump back into the dogfight that is bind9 setup [03:00] laughyNinja: have you read the Admin Guide that's linked from topic? [03:01] Sorry, it's http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserverdoc. My brain is stuck calling it a "SAG". [03:44] i need help with transmission or torrentflux everytime i try to connect to the port it says secure connection failed [03:45] its very annoying to to learn linux and get pretty far and then get hit in the face with this [03:47] get fuckt [03:59] those of you that run snot, what mode do you run it in? [03:59] snot = snort [04:11] laughyNinja: I know something a bit about bind9... but you should ask a specific question about it, not "does anyone know anything" generic stuff. What is the specific problem you are having? You installed bind9 and bind9utils packages, and then what did you do, and what failed or broke or disappointed you in what way? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === jasonb_ is now known as jasonb === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [06:07] I've been trying all evening to get 9.10 installed on a system with more than one hard drive, and it just refuses to work :/ [06:08] grub2 just will not cooperate [06:10] I'd like to do a remote install of a soon to be headless server. [06:10] Is it possible to install over ssh? [06:11] you need physical access to start the process, but once it's up and running ssh, you can [06:11] alternatively I can forward to a serial console attached via ./screen. [06:12] qman__: so I have that, I just got concerned that once I selected Install Ubuntu Server, it looked like the process auto started. [06:17] I always just do it locally, so I'm not sure how you go about it in the latest versions [06:17] it only takes ten minutes or so anyway [06:22] Is there a way to run the installer from another live cd, eg boot into a gentoo live cd, start ssh, go to remote pc, download ubuntu iso, start install? [06:23] gnac: you can build a pre-seeded d-i that automates all steps up to the installing the ssh udeb, and then complete the install over ssh [06:24] gnac: installation from another Unix system (even another Ubuntu system) is much more of a pain in the arse, though it is possible. [06:25] gnac: normally I would just download the netboot d-i kernel and ramdisk, add a preseed file to the ramdisk, and then teach your gentoo (or whatever) bootloader to boot that kernel/ramdisk. They then load into memory, proceed through to installing the ssh udeb, and then you can log in and blat the existing install. [06:29] hmm ... [06:30] well, it looks like I'm mostly through? I'm downloading the files after selecting what services (eg ssh/LAMP) I wanted installed. [06:31] It would have been nicer to do this from my laptop on the couch though ;~) [06:34] can I just install ssh and then restart the "installer" from the base system once ssh is running? [06:35] gnac: no [06:36] I guess I'd have to use apt-get and manually configure then. [06:37] uhuo, I got an install grub loader failure. [06:37] '"grub=pc" package failed to install into /target/' [06:39] What should I look for to always prevent my server from installing a specific package? apt pinning? [06:39] "grub" doesn't work either. [06:40] alkisg: what package? [06:40] twb: e.g. gdm [06:40] Pinning would work. [06:40] I'm not sure how you'd ACCIDENTALLY install gdm, though [06:40] So that I could run e.g. tasksel install ubuntu-desktop but prevent gdm from being installed === kisielk_home_ is now known as kisielk_home [06:41] Thank you :) [06:41] alkisg: Might be easier to instal ubuntu desktop and then apt-get purge gdm :) [06:42] jmarsden: I'd like to prevent end users from getting gdm on updates after the initial installation [06:42] Or even just aptitude --schedule-only install ubuntu-desktop && aptitude --schedule-only purge gdm && aptitude install [06:42] alkisg: Once you purge it, they shouldn't get updates fot it... [06:42] Or aptitude --without-recommends install ubuntu-desktop [06:43] (e.g. some user may decide to `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop` for some reason, and that would break his system) [06:43] alkisg: User have root and know apt-get but cannot be trusted with info such as "do not install gdm"? Strange set of parameters, but OK. [06:44] jmarsden: yeah, I know :D It's for a fat client deployment [06:44] If apt pinning would work, I think it's the best option [06:44] It should work fine. [06:44] Just arrange to auto-reimage their machines from an SOE every saturday [06:45] Thanks again guys [07:14] any known reason why the grub-pc package would fail to install from the livecd? [07:40] gnac: one easy way would be if you confused its module auto-detection by placing /boot on LVM on RAID [07:41] soren: Server ISOs were respun, so we need to do ISO testing again. [07:41] soren: did you solve your LVM install issue ? [07:43] It staggers me sometimes how many people still use optical media [07:50] ttx: morning [07:50] kirkland: yo [07:50] ttx: how's UEC looking? [07:51] looking good [07:51] on yesterday's candidate, but they were respun [07:51] nothing should have changed for UEC though [07:51] but we still need to redo the ISO test [07:51] kirkland: all passed yesterday, except I've been hitting bug 503180 every time [07:51] Launchpad bug 503180 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus-cloud doesn't reply to requests" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503180 [08:01] ttx: alrighty, had a bit of insomnia, heading back to bed now ;-) [08:02] kirkland: gdnite [08:40] good morning folks [08:42] jiboumans: o/ === rphwrk_ is now known as rphwrk [09:48] ttx: I need a name suggestion for the team that will own the regression test build ppa. [09:48] ttx: The user who does the uploading is named ubuntu-server-autotest. [09:49] ttx: I realised, by the way, that I was simply being too impatient with my lvm installs. For some reason it takes a couple of minutes from "Loading GRUB" until anything else happens on the screen, but the timeout in my script was just a minute or so. [09:50] They're all running fine now. [09:51] soren: cool, you should rerun them, then :) [09:51] ttx: I will. Are we supposed to be testing the 20100114 images or the 20100113 images? [09:51] 20100114 [09:51] see iso tracker [09:52] Oh, right. [09:52] Of course. [09:52] * soren rsyncs [09:52] Man, I can't wait until I finish my server room. The noise in my office is really annoying. [09:54] Uhh.. Wow. [09:54] 708669440 100% 50.30MB/s 0:00:13 (xfer#1, to-check=1/2) [09:54] Did /anything/ change at all? [09:54] the only differences in contents between these images and the previous ones are the partman fix, and aoetools getting properly pulled in by the seed [09:55] ttx: Ah. [09:55] ttx: it's an opportunistic respin to fix bug #507059 [09:55] Launchpad bug 507059 in partman-base "After selecting the HD in expert mode, it enters an infinite loop" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507059 [09:55] ttx: What's "the partman fix"? [09:55] Ah, that. [09:55] Yeah, I don't do that. [09:55] There's no test case for it. :) [09:55] so nothing should change [09:55] Right. [09:55] * soren runs the test battery [09:56] It takes about an hour, currently. [09:56] Anyhow, as for my previous question: team name? [09:57] soren: on a call now, already multitasking, can't overcommit cpu [09:57] queuing task [09:58] ttx: No worries. === bjelle is now known as Bjelleklang [10:14] I don't get the whole 'nobootwait' discussion (or is it bootwait). Should you use the option or not? I just want to boot a system and have the drives mounted. Wait for /home and /srv without crashing and don't wait for the rest. [10:20] and what about _netdev? (How do you see what the 'defaults' option in /etc/fstab actually contains? [10:39] having some trouble with pinning. On hardy I have hardy-backports ... but I only want to use that for postgres as I need 8.4. What do I put in preferences to ignore all backports apart from postgres ? [10:51] i am having to use a ram drive to make a db fast enough to process, i am just a little worried about backing it up, is there anyway to sync the db to disk without using rsync or similar [10:58] incorrect: I could be wrong here, but if you dump the database, will it not be automatically synced? [10:59] not if the ram drive goes away [10:59] i guess i will just have to lock it and sync it to disk [11:29] Hi all. I'm planning on doing some ISO testing today and I noticed that there's no server ISOs for 20100114. Should I just perform the tests with the alternate ISO? [11:30] This is the site I'm using: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20100114/ [11:35] Can someone help me with setting up a mail server to i can send mail on my ubuntu server ? I have PHP applications that send out emails but i don't have a mail server listening on port 25 right now. [11:35] Help? :) [11:36] This is an ubuntu server installation but noting is listening on port 25 right now. [11:37] Looking here; http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/mailserver [11:37] It looks like this stuff is already built into ubuntu server but i need to activate it somehow? [11:37] Please advise [11:39] dr4g: This page appears to show you how to do it: [11:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer [11:39] I just pasted that link [11:39] Sorry i didn't, wrong paste actually. [11:40] Yes i'm already on that page, do you recommend i install postfix or exim4 ? [11:41] Postfix is the default and so you might as well go for that, although I'm afraid I couldn't give you any further advice. [11:42] alright i'll go with postix then [11:43] Do you recommend is etup authentication on my postfix server so people don't use my server to forward on spam ? [11:43] i setup * [11:44] Absolutely. [11:44] do you know what it means by this ? [11:44] Other destinations for mail: server1.example.com, example.com, localhost.example.com, localhost [11:45] it becoms this in the config file [11:45] mydestination = server1.example.com, example.com, localhost.example.com, localhost [11:45] Although if you're having to ask questions like that it might be worth using another mail host rather than setting one up yourself. [11:45] Omahn: this will be the new mail server for the company. [11:46] In that case I would certainly get a professional in, or at least read up a bit more on email servers before proceeding. It's not something you want to mess up. [11:48] ok thanks. [12:04] hi [12:04] is there a way to email exceptions occuring in catalina.out file in tomcat application server ? [12:22] kaushal: write a cronjob that regularly looks into the file and mails out a report ? Use customized logwatch ? [12:25] ttx: any example ? [12:25] kaushal: haven't any [12:26] http://www.logwatch.org/tabs/docs/ might be a starting point [12:51] morning [12:52] morning zul [12:53] hey jiboumans [12:59] Hi...I have 2 servers with 8 GB RAM each and i would like to up 1 only VM with 12 GB RAM. Is it possible ? [13:02] soren: how is your testing doing ? No result landed on the tracker yet [13:07] Hello! [13:08] does anyone know why my swap ist full but my cache still has 1GB free? http://pastebin.com/d5692c9e8 [13:13] <_ruben> Guest_188: im not aware of any virtualization solution that offers that feature [13:14] <_ruben> it'd share memory over the network, i doubt that'd be of much performance :p [13:16] _ruben: The cloud computing dont join the hardware of servers ? [13:16] ttx: I've had a few hiccups along the way. [13:16] ttx: ...and every time, I start the whole thing over to make sure I didn't break anything while fixing something else :) [13:17] ttx: So I'll be reporting in bulk shortly. [13:17] ttx: I'm guessing 20 minutes from now. [13:17] soren: on i386/minimal virtual mode, I get a -generic-pae kernel [13:17] http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerMinimalVirtualInstall says I should get a -server one [13:17] but I suppose the instructions are wrong for i386 now [13:22] whats the best virtualization software for 2.6 + ultrasparc? (openvz doesn't support sparc anymore :( ) [13:22] <_ruben> Guest_188: it offers a big "pool", from which multiple vms can take their resources, but each vm's max resources is atmost one physical server's resources (afaik) [13:23] ttx: You get -server? Really? Hm.. ok. [13:23] no. [13:23] ttx: As reported by dpkg or by uname? [13:23] I get -generic-pae reported by uname [13:23] ttx: Err.. Right, my bad. [13:23] ttx: That's expected. [13:23] ttx: Check what dpkg says. [13:23] ok, editing test instructions [13:23] ttx: It was renamed, wasn't it? [13:24] I killed the vm already [13:24] ttx: Do you still have the install available? [13:24] ttx: Ok. Don't edit the test case just yet. [13:24] ok, marking passed with a comment then [13:24] running the amd64 equivalent now [13:24] ttx: You're supposed to get the -virtual kernel. The -virtual kernel will appear as something other than -virtual in uname. This has been the case since... Err.. intrepid, I think.. [13:25] Instructions say "Check that the uname -r returns a -server kernel" [13:25] It's been -server so far, but that may be different now. dpkg is what you need to check. [13:25] ttx: Oh, right. Did you check dpkg as well? [13:25] _ruben: Thank you! [13:25] soren: I checked "dpkg -l linux-virtual" [13:25] ttx: and? [13:25] and it's installed. [13:25] ttx: Ok, good. [13:26] ttx: In that case, I think everything is fine. [13:26] ttx: -virtual was probably changed to be a sub-arch of generic-pae. [13:26] you fix the instructions ? Or should I ? [13:26] intentionally, I mean. [13:27] Done. [13:29] hi, does anyone know how to link Tomcat and Eclipse ? [13:31] lyhana8: would https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat6/+bug/375493 describe what you're after ? [13:32] Launchpad bug 375493 in tomcat6 "tomcat6 needs debug start mode with jpda" [Wishlist,Fix released] [13:32] lyhana8: if so, follow the instructions in that bug -- or test lucid :) [13:32] well I just manage to make it appear in the server list, I guess some variables/plugins were missing [13:33] lyhana8: ah. I guess eclipse doesn't like our FHS directory layout. I'd recommend using the tomcat6-user package and set up a specific instance [13:34] Somethign like http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/tomcat-6-lands-in-intrepid/ [13:38] ttx: I'm simply looking for a way to make tomcat show up in eclipse server list (which I just managed) and make it work... [13:39] lyhana8: then I don't know what that involves, it's been a long time since I last used Eclipse [13:47] zul: could you cover the upgrade testing on the ISO tracker ? [13:47] istr you signed up for that one in the past :P [13:48] (if it makes any sense to tset it now) [13:48] ttx: i have questions regarding logwatch. can i discuss it now ? === alex88[sleep] is now known as alex88 [13:49] soren: is your testing expected to cover all the gaps of the tracker ? I think I covered all the odd ones [13:49] kaushal: i'm kinda busy -- and I don't really know logwatch customization [13:49] ttx: sure [13:49] just looks like the tool I'd use in your situation (though I'd probably do a custom cronjob) [13:49] zul: thx [13:50] soren: also refreshed ETA would be great [13:50] soren: slangasek wants to release not too late. [13:56] ttx: Hang on, let me check. [13:57] ttx: I have the following tests automated: [13:57] ttx: default install [13:57] ttx: mail server [13:57] ttx: lamp server [13:57] ttx: bind9 server [13:57] ttx: lvm [13:57] ttx: on both amd64 and i386. [13:58] hi all, just installed Ubuntu on my server as Etch is end of life soon, thatnks [13:58] ttx: I'm expecting to split it into two stages, so that I get the cartesian product of {i386,amd64}/{regular partitioning,lvm}/{basic,lamp,bind9,mail} [13:59] ttx: Is my notation making sense? [13:59] so we need coverage on ssh/samba/print/postgres [13:59] seems to be pretty much the same [13:59] ttx: Yes. I'll get to work on those after these are working as expected. [13:59] soren: but too late for alpha2, meguesses [14:00] ttx: Yes. It's a bit time consuming at this stage. [14:00] anyone running Boinc on UServer? [14:02] da65: In many respects it's quit similar to Debian, but if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features - almost all those features are not in Debian. [14:03] ttx: sure [14:03] no issues [14:03] cool [14:05] used Deb for years, only came to UServer because Lenny not ok with Plesk at the moment, good move by the looks [14:05] nice to have root in ssh too, thought Ubuntu would not alow that [14:07] 2013 end of life is very nice too [14:12] is Boinc in the packaging, cant seem to find it? [14:16] New bug: #507490 in libapache-mod-auth-kerb (main) "credentials cache file not created" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507490 [14:24] zul, smoser: please cover as much of the missing tests in the ISo tracker as you can... Looks like we won't be able to wait on mathiaz before release. [14:24] we need coverage on ssh/samba/print/postgres [14:24] I'll be doing ssh [14:24] ack [14:25] da65: http://packages.ubuntu.com/boinc [14:25] <_ruben> !info boinc [14:27] ttx, i'm going to finish doing the ami pages updates for alpha2 (preparing them) then i'll start on those tests. [14:27] smoser: perfect, thanks [14:27] ty [14:28] smoser: just sync with the tracker status so as to not duplicate any test :) [14:31] right === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew [15:01] hello [15:02] how do i get the MySql username and Password with Database Name ? [15:03] anyone ? [15:05] while creating mysql user check the box create database with same name ( in phpmyadmin) [15:06] where is the phpmyadmin ? [15:06] :-/ === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:06] you need to install it [15:06] ahem [15:06] brb then [15:16] When I start my server it says I have like 30 security updates. What's the command to download and install them? [15:16] jerico: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [15:17] jpds: Doesn't that just update the source list? [15:17] jerico: No. [15:18] kirkland, ping. [15:19] smoser: kirkland won't be available today [15:19] k === jsalisbury_ is now known as jsalisbury [15:19] oh, in route to down under [15:19] yep [15:19] smoser: maybe will connect 2 min from the airport [15:21] When I do apt-get upgrade it gives me a list of packages that were held back. Why? and how do I not hold them back? [15:22] jerico: 'upgrade' will not install new packages, only upgrade existing ones [15:22] jerico: Try: sudo apt-get install . [15:22] It'll tell you why the package is held back. [15:22] jerico: 'update' updates your database of what's available [15:23] jerico: on a server, typically do something like: [15:23] apt-get update [15:23] apt-get upgrade [15:23] apt-get dist-upgrade # if anything was held back [15:23] soren: about the other-cloud-providers spec, iiuc it's more about reaching out and see image convergence opportunities, right [15:24] georg, i have installed the phpmyadmin [15:24] soren: so it's rather open-ended, or do you already know what will be needed [15:24] but cant find the username or passworrd anywhere [15:24] ttx: That's half of it. [15:24] jdstrand: ok, thanks [15:24] Server: localhost (MySQL host info: localhost via TCP/IP) [15:24] soren: the other being... the client part ? [15:24] jerico: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/package-management.html [15:24] ttx: The other half is seeing if there's anything we can do easily to make it easier to work with other provider /from/ Ubuntu. [15:24] ttx: Right, the client part. [15:24] AkhlD, what are you tryng todo ? [15:25] georg, im tryin to set up Word Press [15:25] AkhlD, do you know your mysql-server root password ? [15:25] ttx: I've already been working some on this. I've implemented a CLI tool for libcloud. [15:25] soren: if we target Rackspace, do you already know how far we are from what they use ? [15:25] yes georg [15:25] ttx: It's perfectly functional (I use it quite a bit myself), but it can still be made lots better. [15:25] AkhlD, now loing with them via phpmyadmin [15:25] login* [15:25] ttx: Using libcloud gives us a bunch of providers for free. [15:25] there is no login option in the phpmyadmin [15:25] ttx: Among them, rackspace. [15:26] AkhlD, http://yoursite.com/phpmyadmin [15:26] and you get no login screen ? [15:26] i do [15:26] it shows a pag [15:26] page* [15:26] ttx: Additionally, I've put the python bindings for Rackspace's cloud files into universe. [15:26] soren: right. I'm trying to understand how much work it represents. The client part is pretty self-contained. The server part looks more open-ended [15:26] with # Server: localhost (MySQL host info: localhost via TCP/IP)# Server version: 5.1.36-community-log [15:27] also User: root@localhost [15:27] ttx: Right. the server part involves getting an account with as many providers as possible and learn from what they're doing with our images. [15:27] ttx: ...and try to make sure we have a decent kernel story on as many as possible. [15:27] ttx: The latter being the trickiest bit, but so far, people are very happy to discuss things. [15:28] georg, may i pm ? [15:28] AkhlD, go ahead === genii_ is now known as genii [15:45] ttx: ping [15:45] zul: pong [15:45] ttx: are you using kvm to run the iso tests? [15:45] zul: depends [15:46] ttx: are you getting a login prompt? [15:46] zul: UEC installer tests are on real iron [15:46] ah, no. [15:46] wtf? [15:46] Alt-F1 [15:46] see the bug I reported on all my tests [15:46] http://launchpad.net/bugs/506297 [15:46] Launchpad bug 506297 in plymouth "Graphical Ubuntu logo enabled on servers, no more login prompt" [High,Triaged] [15:47] zul: sucks, but you get a graphical logo during boot ! [15:49] let it be known as "The Alpha2 Known Bug" [15:49] * zul doesnt like that at *all* [15:49] Foundations said, not fixable for alpha2 [15:51] I have a mailserver currently running example.com and I want to place a second server running zimbra holding about 4 of those example.com accounts at a remote location (saves wan speed). My main server is Kerio. Does anyone have an Idea about how i could host those 4 accounts on a different server? [16:00] is there any light webdav server, without apache? [16:01] you can try lighttpd [16:02] zul: I was going to try that. anything else besides that? [16:02] nope not that i know of [16:10] how do I boot into grub? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:37] detrate: I think that happens all the day. [16:37] time* [16:40] smoser: howdy, here now [16:40] ttx: I'm on and off today, between airports [16:41] kirkland, i was going to ask what you do for mirrors of daily/ [16:41] smoser: ah [16:41] sure ... [16:41] but not important. i put together a script [16:41] kirkland: cool [16:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/356647/ [16:42] smoser: i'll pastebin mine, if you like [16:42] kirkland: stay away of Oceanic 815 [16:42] ttx: :-) [16:42] no need. i'm good now. you mirror from cdimage for it though, right? [16:42] smoser: nice, yeah, yours looks fine [16:43] smoser: i use rsync -azP, FWIW [16:43] kirkland: bought that 500Gb traveldisk, btw [16:43] ttx: nice! should take about 7-8 hours to seed [16:43] ttx: i'll just loan you mine for a night [16:44] smoser: if you have $80 to spare, i recommend picking up a 500GB external hd, 2.5" [16:44] kirkland: sounds like a plan. How much do you need to download each day on average to stay current ? [16:44] smoser: bring it to PDX, and get a local mirror ;-) [16:44] ttx: hrm, good question ... [16:44] ttx: my cronjob fires at 6am my time [16:44] ttx: it's *rare* for it to take longer than 10-15 minutes [16:45] ttx: and that includes both syncing the debs and the isos [16:45] kirkland: yes, but you have texan-size download rates [16:45] i have mirrors of release/ archive/ and uec-images/ [16:45] ttx: :-) tbh, i'm not sure [16:45] and pulling daily now [16:45] smoser: gotcha, i was talking about pool/ :-) [16:46] i'd be interested in how ttx downloads anything [16:46] today i downloaded at ~ 1.7M for an iso from cdimage [16:46] the zsync, from an old image came in at ~ 300K [16:46] lftp rocks [16:46] * ttx just bought a very nice fanless box with a 2Tb WD Green drive [16:47] One of those: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T3N.html [16:47] ttx: I just snagged a Green drive the other day [16:48] got tempted by one of those: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/BAREBONE_SERVER_Series_2.html but they are far less power-efficient [16:48] wow. ttx, thats pretty nice. [16:48] ttx: let me know how you like that drive [16:48] yeah, I should have talked to you before xmas ttx [16:48]