| freinhard | i did, but as before: just warnings ;) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| neversfelde | warnings are not good :) | 00:00 |
| neversfelde | you should solve everything and if there is something that cannot be solved ad an override | 00:01 |
| freinhard | btw that watch file doesn't work if there is no directory index for the target location? | 00:02 |
| freinhard | uuscan jus failed. | 00:03 |
| neversfelde | freinhard: for some hosters you cannot add a watch file | 00:03 |
| freinhard | so i'll drop it | 00:04 |
| neversfelde | I would find another package, which is in the archive and also hosted on code.google and use the watch file, if it is there, as an example | 00:04 |
| neversfelde | but I have always problems with creating proper watch files, too | 00:05 |
| neversfelde | probably someone else can give you better help there | 00:05 |
| freinhard | k, no more lintian errors. no i just upload it once again? | 00:11 |
| neversfelde | yes | 00:11 |
| neversfelde | and find two motus who advocate the package | 00:11 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| ScottK | freinhard: Also build the package and check the .debs with lintian too | 00:45 |
| pgquiles | how much disk space do I need for a full mirror of Karmic i386 (binary and source) ? | 00:49 |
| freinhard | pgquiles: why would one want to do that? | 00:50 |
| pgquiles | freinhard: because I'm creating my own distribution, based on kubuntu, for a very specific use case | 00:55 |
| freinhard | pgquiles: creating some sort of overlay with a ppa doesn't cut it? | 00:56 |
| pgquiles | freinhard: no, it does not. I'm customizing the boot, heavily modifying ubiquity and more | 01:00 |
| pgquiles | I just want to know if 25 GB (all the free space currently in my current hard disk) will be enough | 01:01 |
| freinhard | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror/1 | 01:03 |
| freinhard | 40gb | 01:03 |
| pgquiles | freinhard: thank you | 01:04 |
| ScottK | freinhard and pgquiles: That's all archs. For a single arch and source, 25 GB should be fine. | 01:22 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 2 Released! | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html | Meeting scheduling http://doodle.com/xyea69z37v4wrkb9 | ||
| Riddell | kubuntu.org/news/lucid-alpha-2 | 01:35 |
| ScottK | kubuntunetbook has already tweeted and dented. | 01:39 |
| Zorael | kubuntu.org link to release notes page seems borked? Missing http://. | 01:51 |
| Riddell | Zorael: fixed | 01:52 |
| Zorael | much better. :3 | 01:53 |
| maco | Riddell: i thought that silly picture of rod with the funny wig was supposed to be on the alpha 2 release blog post? | 02:01 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| JontheEchidna | I have received 623 rosetta translation template import messages \o/ | 02:08 |
| * JontheEchidna is glad he didn't upload l10n packages | 02:08 | |
| * ScottK didn't count, just deleted | 02:11 | |
| JontheEchidna | they all go straight to trash, and since I never read them they show up in nice bold letters in the trashcan in KMail | 02:13 |
| * ScottK usually hits mail on his phone first and it doesn't filter so well. | 02:14 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: How would you feel about removing koffice2 source? That would get rid of one of my few remaining boost1.38 reverse-build-depends. | 02:26 |
| JontheEchidna | for what it's worth the current koffice2 binary packages are broken anyways | 02:34 |
| JontheEchidna | or at least krita is | 02:35 |
| ScottK | The next upload will be as koffice anyway, so the koffice2 source is pointless | 02:35 |
| ScottK | There's already a koffice2 as koffice upload. | 02:36 |
| ScottK | seele: Jono founded the KDE usability project? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/speakers/jono-bacon | 03:18 |
| seele | ScottK: he did? lol | 03:28 |
| ScottK | I know he did have some involvement with KDE a long time ago | 03:28 |
| seele | oh, the KDE Usability Study | 03:28 |
| seele | that's different | 03:28 |
| ScottK | Oh. OK. | 03:28 |
| seele | there was some formal usability study he organized | 03:28 |
| ScottK | Fair enough | 03:28 |
| seele | dont know if the report is even around | 03:28 |
| seele | that's pretty strange to put in your bio though | 03:29 |
| seele | i guess for a while he was pushing usability testing so maybe that's part of the promo | 03:29 |
| JontheEchidna | isn't the kde usability study what eventually spawned kickoff? | 03:35 |
| nixternal | i hope not | 03:48 |
| daskreech | Wasn't the Suse? | 03:53 |
| nixternal | yes | 03:54 |
| nixternal | hey, you see the kio_imap4 fix in packagers? a must have like he said for 4.3.x users as well | 03:54 |
| JontheEchidna | I've an SRU mostly finished for that | 03:55 |
| JontheEchidna | just need to go through all the red tape | 03:55 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 350902 | 03:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 350902 in kdepimlibs "[ubuntu 8.10] kio_imap4 hangs" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350902 | 03:57 |
| nixternal | "wrote some KDE applications" <- ScottK should read "wrote _a_ KDE application" and an application that I used :) | 03:58 |
| JontheEchidna | A core-dev-ish person confirming the karmic nomination would be helpful | 03:58 |
| ScottK | Looking | 03:58 |
| nixternal | actually, we did write an applet and the first ever build script for KDE trunk checkouts | 03:59 |
| JontheEchidna | Should I be able to confirm SRU nominations as a kubuntu-dev? | 03:59 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Done | 04:00 |
| JontheEchidna | (in theory, aside from launchpad failure) | 04:00 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: If you can upload the package, you should be able to approve the nomination. | 04:00 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: thanks | 04:00 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 507773, which only had to have "rebuild" changed to "confirm/reject SRU nominations" from his report about the latter :/ | 04:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 507773 in launchpad "Cannot confirm SRU tasks for packages I have upload rights to." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507773 | 04:05 |
| JontheEchidna | *the former | 04:05 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: we would want this to go into backports as well, yes? | 04:12 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Yes. | 04:12 |
| ScottK | Open a task against karmic-backports and then find someone in ubuntu-backporters to approve it. | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | would subscribing ubuntu-backporters do the trick? | 04:13 |
| ScottK | Possibly. Asking me would probably be faster though. | 04:13 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: karmic-backports task opened | 04:14 |
| ScottK | Looking | 04:14 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Approved. You can upload to karmic-backports and then ping me and I'll accept it. | 04:15 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: I've tried uploading to karmic-backports before. It appears the per-package upload rights aren't backwards-compatible | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | will try again to see if things have changed | 04:16 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: OK. Fling me a debdiff after you test it and I'll upload it if it doesn't work. | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | rejected | 04:25 |
| JontheEchidna | so cruel... | 04:25 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: http://pastebin.com/f45f596a0 | 04:25 |
| ScottK | Looking. File another bug for that one then. | 04:26 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Uploaded. Once it appears, I'll accept it. | 04:30 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 507779 | 04:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 507779 in soyuz "Cannot upload packages for which I have upload rights for to karmic-backports " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507779 | 04:30 |
| JontheEchidna | yet another copypasta, replacing "confirm/reject SRU nominations" to "upload things to -backports" | 04:31 |
| JontheEchidna | My lack of attention to detail in writing a fresh report each time reflects the lack of attention to detail soyuz has for supporting per-package upload rights :P | 04:32 |
| crimsun | I just closed 76 bugs with one upload. Nice. | 04:33 |
| maco | ~order vegan low-sugar cookies for crimsun | 04:34 |
| * kubotu slides vegan low-sugar cookies down the bar to crimsun | 04:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | epic | 04:34 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Accepted. | 04:37 |
| JontheEchidna | We need to get a KDE guy on ubuntu-sru | 04:37 |
| ScottK | Nah, just ping jdong. He'll approve anything. | 04:37 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Get someone else (like nixternal) to upload that one so I can accept it (backports isn't strict about that) | 04:45 |
| daskreech | I need to stop reading that as j-dong | 04:45 |
| JontheEchidna | giggidy giggidy | 04:45 |
| crimsun | (ping if you still need it done) | 04:46 |
| maco | daskreech: but that is how it's read.... j for john, and dong for...dong | 04:47 |
| daskreech | maco: Ah I read it as japanese | 04:47 |
| maco | no, i think he's chinese | 04:48 |
| daskreech | Chon Wang? | 04:51 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: jdong says upload first, so crimsun, if you're still available .... | 04:53 |
| JontheEchidna | jdong has ack'd | 04:57 |
| * crimsun scrollls | 04:58 | |
| crimsun | -l | 04:58 |
| JontheEchidna | crimsun: thanks for the sponsor | 05:11 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: it's waiting for approval now | 05:12 |
| JontheEchidna | yay | 05:12 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Done | 05:13 |
| JontheEchidna | This has been perhaps the speediest SRU I've taken part in | 05:13 |
| ScottK | They go faster late at night when no adults are around. | 05:17 |
| JontheEchidna | the buildds are nice and empty too | 05:21 |
| ScottK | I think I have the last two uploads before I ask for boost 1.38 removal test building. Neither of them are short, so I think I'll head off to bed. | 05:35 |
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| jussi01 | has someone got a vanilla or almost vanilla lucid going? | 08:33 |
| === Tm_Tr_ is now known as Tm_Tr | ||
| apachelogger | Riddell: corporate identity | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that is re: what does CI stand for | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | markey: ahoy, well, kind of recovered, its not like you ever get true rest when you are me ;) | 09:46 |
| markey | hehe | 09:47 |
| markey | I know this condition | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how did the interview go? | 09:49 |
| Quintasan|Szel | anyone knows how can I display list of AP's near me in command line? | 10:18 |
| agateau | Riddell: ping | 10:45 |
| agateau | message indicator widget has been renamed | 10:45 |
| agateau | https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-message-indicator | 10:45 |
| agateau | I just made a new release | 10:45 |
| Riddell | agateau: yay :) | 10:51 |
| agateau | Riddell: the only new "feature" is the ability to embed the widget in the systemtray | 10:52 |
| agateau | Speaking of which, I think it would make the system look cleaner if the default configuration used embedded widgets whenever possible | 10:53 |
| Riddell | groovy, I'll update that package later today | 10:53 |
| Riddell | embedded widgets? | 10:53 |
| agateau | In the systemtray settings, there is a new page | 10:53 |
| agateau | which lets you embed plasma widgets inside the tray | 10:54 |
| agateau | they take less space this way (good for netbooks) | 10:54 |
| Riddell | oh yes we want to do that, we list that in one of our specs | 10:56 |
| agateau | cool! | 10:56 |
| agateau | so you can now embed the m-i as well | 10:56 |
| Riddell | lovely | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan|Szel: iwlist device scan | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | e.g. iwlist wlan0 scan | 11:04 |
| ghostcube | jussi01: the ubuntu-devel guys are not so friendly like our ones in here :D | 12:22 |
| * ghostcube hides if anyone is cross joined :D | 12:23 | |
| Tm_T | ghostcube: who isn't? | 12:26 |
| ghostcube | no one likes my jokes today :| | 12:26 |
| Tm_T | I liked it, didn't you see me almost smile (;) | 12:27 |
| ghostcube | :D | 12:28 |
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| * Riddell has a crack at the new sip/python-qt | 12:46 | |
| Riddell | agateau: I think I found a bug, you can't right click on message indicator if there's no indicator applications running | 13:07 |
| Riddell | bug 507905 | 13:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 507905 in plasma-widget-message-indicator "can't right click if no apps running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507905 | 13:09 |
| ScottK | Perhaps it should just dissappear in such cases. | 13:11 |
| Riddell | maybe, that is what the decide notifier does if it's embedded in systray | 13:11 |
| Riddell | device | 13:11 |
| ScottK | Oooh. /me wants. | 13:12 |
| ScottK | That's been my main bitch about the device notifier. | 13:12 |
| Riddell | the device notifier also seems to use an alarming exclamation mark icon these days when it pops up | 13:12 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| agateau | Riddell: oh, you found it as well :) | 13:23 |
| Riddell | hmm, turns out if you remove sip then KDE breaks | 13:29 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| JontheEchidna | good morning everybody | 13:39 |
| Riddell | it's jonathan! | 13:40 |
| JontheEchidna | hi jonathan | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | so... anybody up for sponsoring a kde4libs/kdebase-workspace/kubuntu-default-settings/kdepimilbs quadruple upload? :D | 13:42 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I'm onto it as we speak | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | nice | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | The Todo is filling out quite nicely, for the point in the cycle we're in | 13:44 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: quadruple uploaded! | 13:51 |
| JontheEchidna | rock | 13:52 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-runtime needs an upload too, come to think of it | 13:52 |
| JontheEchidna | kdeplasma-addons also has some substantial changes in bzr | 13:53 |
| Riddell | ok, let's make it a sextuplet upload | 13:54 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 13:54 |
| Riddell | glatzor says he'll look at updating packagekit stuff this weekend | 14:04 |
| JontheEchidna | awesome | 14:04 |
| JontheEchidna | webkitkde is looking pretty good. I have high hopes for it for lucid+1 | 14:11 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: just if all that would compile in kdenetwork too (; | 14:11 |
| Tm_T | atleast here it fails to build nicely | 14:12 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: watch out for text fields suddently deleting themselves, I've been caught out by that a couple of times and there's no undo | 14:14 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: all what? | 14:15 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: kget konqueror plugin doesn't build here with webkit kpart, nor does babelfish konqueror extension | 14:20 |
| Tm_T | I haven't had much time to investigate this, but it started when there were header renaming in webkitkde svn | 14:21 |
| Tm_T | and simply fixing includes doesn't work | 14:21 |
| Tm_T | but are we interested about kget integration with webkitpart? | 14:23 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: will give exact errors as soon as I get that far in my builds | 14:28 |
| Tm_T | building after Qt update | 14:29 |
| sebas | How will the removal of HAL affect Solid's functionality in Lucid? | 14:29 |
| sebas | Or will you just install HAL as KDE dependency? | 14:29 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: I doubt upstream expects them to compuile | 14:31 |
| Riddell | compile | 14:31 |
| Riddell | sebas: where's this? | 14:31 |
| Riddell | sebas: since KDE needs hal still we'll need to keep it as a dependency | 14:31 |
| sebas | ah, so it won'tbe in Ubuntu, but will be in Kubuntu? | 14:31 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: but did (: | 14:32 |
| Riddell | sebas: hal is directly in our seeds | 14:33 |
| sebas | ah | 14:33 |
| sebas | thanks for the answer :) | 14:33 |
| sebas | Just wondered when I read the Lucid Alpha announcement | 14:33 |
| Riddell | sebas: it does raise the risk that if hal breaks nobody except us will care about it, and we're not experts at maintaining hal | 14:35 |
| sebas | How is that is different from the situation since ~two years? | 14:35 |
| Riddell | ubuntu desktop was still using hal for something so more people cared about it | 14:36 |
| sebas | Danny Kukawka has taken over maintainance of HAL, no? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | I mean care about it as packagers within ubuntu | 14:36 |
| sebas | Riddell: maybe we can skip devicekit and use whatever tech David comes up with when devicekit is "kind of working" and he moves on to rewrite that stuff again ;) | 14:37 |
| Riddell | sebas: I believe devicekit is already dead | 14:37 |
| Riddell | it's all udev now, or something | 14:37 |
| sebas | ok, skip two iterations then :) | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | devicekit's already dead? Oo | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | they should make up their minds | 14:38 |
| * sebas notes that this is the exact thing that drives 3rd party developers nuts | 14:38 | |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: and miss all the fun? | 14:38 |
| sebas | where s/nuts/away | 14:38 |
| Tm_T | sebas: and this is exactly why KDE/whatever should provide abstraction layer, so 3rd party developers doesn't have to follow things themselves | 14:39 |
| sebas | It's also the exact reason for having Solid | 14:39 |
| Tm_T | and does | 14:39 |
| Tm_T | sebas: that | 14:39 |
| sebas | same goes for pol(icy)kit, btw | 14:39 |
| sebas | that's also an utter mess, dead in the water before a stable API is there | 14:39 |
| Tm_T | packagekit? | 14:40 |
| Riddell | feel free to package shaman | 14:40 |
| allee-k | sebas: afair devicekit was just a temp. workaround until udev supports multiplexing and can feed devicekit-* modules itself | 15:09 |
| Riddell | that might be how it ended out but it wasn't the intention at the start I'm pretty sure :) | 15:10 |
| sebas | allee-k: right, hence deprecating HAL was a mistake | 15:10 |
| sebas | same goes for policykit, gstreamer, networkmanager, ... | 15:10 |
| sebas | all unstable APIs | 15:10 |
| allee-k | sebas: teaching linux to be more dynamic as disks/sticks/networks is still work in progress :( | 15:12 |
| allee-k | disk/sticks/networks come and go ... | 15:13 |
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| ScottK | agateau: Still around. I have some indicator feedback for you. | 15:18 |
| agateau | ScottK: phone call, will be available in a few minutes | 15:19 |
| ScottK | agateau: Great. Let me know when | 15:19 |
| sebas | allee-k: I know ... doesn't mean that "change API at will" is a good idea | 15:21 |
| sebas | That's actually something Windows does really well | 15:22 |
| sebas | keeping backwards compatibility | 15:22 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 15:25 |
| _Groo_ | any word from the street saying when koffice 2.1.1 will be in lucid? :) | 15:25 |
| Riddell | nixternal has the lock | 15:26 |
| agateau | ScottK: I am all hears | 15:32 |
| agateau | ears* | 15:32 |
| ScottK | OK | 15:32 |
| ScottK | I've been using the indicator since I switched to Karmic and have some conclusions for you. | 15:32 |
| ScottK | I'm sure you recall my concerns about being one click away from getting to an IRC highlight versus two. | 15:33 |
| agateau | yes | 15:33 |
| ScottK | What I've found is that if I'm at my computer and I get highlighted, I much prefer clicking on the Quassel icon, but if I've been away and I may have multiple highlights, I like the indicator. | 15:34 |
| ScottK | The indicator does a good job of giving me overall 'situational awareness' of who's been talking to me. | 15:34 |
| agateau | because it gives you more with one click I guess | 15:34 |
| ScottK | Yes, because it gives me who, what channel, and how long ago. | 15:34 |
| agateau | interesting | 15:35 |
| ScottK | If I'm sitting here, I don't care about that because I know which message I care about. The one that just happened. | 15:35 |
| ScottK | So I was thinking about what it would take for me to completely switch to the indicator. | 15:36 |
| ScottK | I have a couple of ideas .... | 15:36 |
| agateau | auto-popup? | 15:36 |
| ScottK | What if it did something like on click went to the last event directly and on shift-click raised the menu? | 15:36 |
| ScottK | Maybe, but that could get a little distracting I think. | 15:37 |
| agateau | true | 15:37 |
| agateau | shift-click is like a handy shortcut, I would maybe do the opposite | 15:37 |
| ScottK | Except that (from my view), that's still a step back from just clicking on the icon. | 15:38 |
| agateau | a new user won't have a chance to know about the menu because he won't try shift-click | 15:38 |
| agateau | I see your point | 15:38 |
| ScottK | The second issue is the menu when I right click on the icon. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | That's how I normally connect my client to the core. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | It occurs to me that now that we have dbus menu, the indicator could support that too. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | Right click on the indicator opens the dbus menu for selected apps or something. | 15:40 |
| agateau | I think the plan for Lucid (at least on the GNOME side) is to be able to show some actions in the m-i message | 15:40 |
| agateau | we could imaging a "Connect to core" for Quassel | 15:40 |
| agateau | imagine* | 15:40 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 15:40 |
| agateau | but that's what was rejected before: launchers | 15:41 |
| ScottK | Connecting isn't launching | 15:41 |
| agateau | true, but we are getting close | 15:41 |
| Sput | wouldn't a new user expect to open a menu with right click? | 15:41 |
| agateau | Sput: on plasmoids, right-click is more usually associated with configuring the plasmoid itself | 15:42 |
| Sput | at least a new user coming from windows or KDE | 15:42 |
| ScottK | Which is why I was thinking the the indicator could be configured to open the dbus menu for selected apps it's 'replacing' in the systray | 15:42 |
| agateau | it's not intended for "normal" interaction | 15:42 |
| Sput | agateau: hmmm... Menu -> "Configure"? :) | 15:42 |
| agateau | ScottK: wow, interesting! need to think about that a bit | 15:42 |
| Sput | well, dunno. don't have much experience. but I'm used to left-click to execute some activation or default action, and right-click to get a context menu | 15:42 |
| Sput | for tray icons | 15:43 |
| ScottK | Sput: Agreed. | 15:43 |
| agateau | Sput: for tray icons, yes, but for things like K menu, battery applet... it's different | 15:43 |
| agateau | device notifier | 15:43 |
| ScottK | agateau: Certainly. It just occurs to me that with dbus menu it doesn't always have to be the actual application's icon in the systray that triggers the menu. It's more of a separate front end/back end. | 15:43 |
| agateau | ScottK: I agree | 15:44 |
| ScottK | agateau: So those are me thoughts. I hope they are useful. | 15:44 |
| ScottK | me/my | 15:44 |
| agateau | They are, thanks for sharing | 15:45 |
| ScottK | No problem | 15:45 |
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| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| nixternal | _Groo_: I am not rushing KOffice...since it is now in main, to upload it means stripping it of a lot of dependencies...not going to waste my time for that...more important to get the dependencies up to date and MIR'd than it is to package 2.1.1 right now | 16:40 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Don't forget to switch to boost1.40. Koffice will shortly be the last boost.138 user in Main | 16:41 |
| nixternal | yup | 16:41 |
| nixternal | LTS is all about fixing stuff :) I kind of like LTS | 16:43 |
| nixternal | ScottK: did you reboot the Mac last night by chance? | 16:43 |
| nixternal | I heard the sound | 16:43 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I did. | 16:43 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 16:44 |
| ScottK | There were security updates .... | 16:44 |
| nixternal | I was watching TV and heard it | 16:44 |
| _Groo_ | nixternal: well ok, is there any ppa i could get it from? or should i do it myself? | 16:44 |
| nixternal | put it in a ppa if you need it I ugess | 16:44 |
| nixternal | wow, guess | 16:44 |
| mellhen | i read something about nepomuk search will be integrated in dolpin in kde4.4RC1. i cant find it in kubuntu 10.04A2. How to activate it? | 16:44 |
| _Groo_ | mellhen: its there in beta 2 and rc1, just open dolphin and search in the menus, its like the normal search but wehn you typue stuff a drop down appears | 16:45 |
| ScottK | mellhen: We don't have it yet. Still issues with getting the back end database packaged. | 16:46 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: you mean virtuoso or sesame2? | 16:46 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Virtuoso | 16:46 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: ah but isnt virtuoso 5.0.12 in lucid now? | 16:46 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: IIRC not in Main yet. | 16:47 |
| mellhen | 16:47 | |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: yes but in universe :) | 16:48 |
| mellhen | ScottK: but it will make it into release? | 16:48 |
| ScottK | mellhen: Definitely. | 16:48 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Do we need to build depend on it for it to work? | 16:48 |
| ScottK | mellhen: _Groo_ may have a better status on it than I do. | 16:49 |
| mellhen | ScottK: it should be easier to find. maybe a searchbar which is always visible. | 16:49 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: no, just install it, and relog into kde, it will start the anokadi server, also use akonadiconsole and config to check the input | 16:50 |
| ScottK | mellhen: There you go I guess you can use it. | 16:50 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: its working very well, sincronizing my google contacts and calendar and othe stuff :) | 16:50 |
| mellhen | ScottK: is it allowed to ask about some minibugs here. i also published it at launchpad but feel itl get lost there, | 16:51 |
| ScottK | mellhen: To a limited exent. | 16:52 |
| _Groo_ | btw i just built kcm_touchpad for lucid, and its working very well with 4.4 rc1 :) | 16:52 |
| _Groo_ | its in my ppa | 16:52 |
| mellhen | ScottK: its about kdebluetooth. if your bluetooth divice is switched off while starting kubuntu. kdebluetooth will not start after you turns the device on. you have to manually do it (krunner: kbluetooth) | 16:54 |
| mellhen | _Groo_: so who is the guy who is able to change this behaviour? | 16:54 |
| ScottK | mellhen: I'd report that to bugs.kde.org. | 16:54 |
| ScottK | mellhen: For nepomuk it's just work we know we still have to do. | 16:55 |
| Tscheesy | Hi - writing a News about Alpha2. _ has HAL now completly gone and is replaced by udev-extra ? | 16:55 |
| mellhen | ScottK: are bugs reported on launpad send to bug.kde.org? | 16:55 |
| ScottK | mellhen: Not automatically. Someone needs to do it. The odds of it getting done go way up if you do it yourself. | 16:55 |
| ScottK | Tscheesy: Not in KDE. | 16:56 |
| Tscheesy | ah k.. still used for input-devices? | 16:56 |
| mellhen | ScottK: who decides if a bug goes to bugs.kde.org. is it possible to decide this as a usuall launchpad user? | 16:57 |
| ScottK | mellhen: You have to refile the bug. There is no automatic export, so anyone can do it. | 16:58 |
| ScottK | Our bug triage team is very small, so the more help the better. | 16:58 |
| mellhen | ok | 16:58 |
| mellhen | ScottK: ok | 16:58 |
| mellhen | ScottK: i would like to help. but i dont know if iam advanced enough | 17:00 |
| ScottK | mellhen: I can already tell you are. | 17:01 |
| ScottK | mellhen: You can join #kubuntu-bugs | 17:01 |
| mellhen | ScottK: the triaged status means, that sb is working on this bug or that this bug is reported to kde? | 17:01 |
| ScottK | mellhen: Triaged means it has enough diagnostic information for a developer to solve it. | 17:02 |
| * ScottK gives JontheEchidna a gentle kick for not being in #kubuntu-bugs | 17:02 | |
| JontheEchidna | now that the crash is fixed we can finally see what the default desktop looks like :P | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imagebin.ca/view/Pc1i1o.html | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | (there's a new wallpaper coming for RC2 though) | 18:14 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: uh, really? | 18:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Tm_T: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/Ethais/ | 18:16 |
| JontheEchidna | kde svn 1073351 | 18:19 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1073351&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1073351 | 18:19 |
| nixternal | that wallpaper reminds me of the wold compaq wallpapers for windows xp | 18:21 |
| nixternal | s/wold/old/ | 18:21 |
| JontheEchidna | the one that came with my PC had a blueish background with a bunch of pills :x | 18:22 |
| nixternal | those square things, that is the Compaq Q, just without making it a Q | 18:24 |
| Sput | oh, so that's not the 4.5 wallpaper? | 18:30 |
| Sput | I was wondering, but I don't have any 4.4 boxen left to check :) | 18:31 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: ah, missed that one, thanks | 18:31 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: I was already hoping cubes would stay | 18:31 |
| * Sput didn't like Quadros | 18:31 | |
| Sput | the new one is a masterpiece though | 18:31 |
| Tm_T | Sput: but it will motivate users to change wallpaper to something their own choice (; | 18:31 |
| Sput | poor pinheiro, quadros was his baby :/ | 18:32 |
| verbalshadow_ | yeah double logins are fixed :) | 19:08 |
| ulysses__ | \o/ | 19:09 |
| verbalshadow_ | now i just need my white "scanlines" with hardlock issue fixed :P | 19:10 |
| _Groo_ | ppl im building the ktorrent 4 beta 1 packages, how do i disable the stupid test runs of cmake in the rules file? (/usr/bin/ctest --force-new-ctest-process) | 20:13 |
| freinhard | has anyone else seen a corrupted plasma tray/bar like this? http://imagebin.ca/view/qE4ciKS.html | 20:58 |
| ulysses__ | I had this: http://noob.hu/2010/01/15/lucid3.png | 20:59 |
| ulysses__ | Lucid alpha 2 in VirtualBox | 20:59 |
| neversfelde | freinhard: no, but I can confirm that the new widgets for systray like weather and pastebin are grayed out in Karmic | 21:02 |
| neversfelde | you have to add a new widget to configure it and it is grayed out again after a restart | 21:02 |
| neversfelde | no Lucid yet, so I cannot confirm it for 10.04 | 21:02 |
| freinhard | if waiting for 4.4rc2 dixes the issue i'll just wait? | 21:03 |
| neversfelde | freinhard: looks like a custom design, does the problam also appear with standard oxygen? | 21:07 |
| freinhard | neversfelde: erm that black you see should be grey, and i deleted all plasma config files and that's how it looks like | 21:08 |
| neversfelde | freinhard: ok, than it is probably the panel geomatry bug mentioned in the release notes? | 21:09 |
| neversfelde | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LucidLynx/Alpha2/Kubuntu | 21:09 |
| neversfelde | s/geomatry/geometry | 21:09 |
| neversfelde | freinhard: looks like a different bug | 21:11 |
| freinhard | and it's already fixed | 21:11 |
| neversfelde | mhh yes | 21:14 |
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| freinhard | well since intel started screwing their driver i'm never sure whether graphics issues are qt, kde or driver related | 21:19 |
| nixternal | yet another wtf cares moment on the list...$X does this better than $Y, but I won't provide you any information to either a) prove this statement or b) if statement is true I won't provide information that might lead to a possible solution | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | the reply-to-the-digest mail? | 21:41 |
| nixternal | yeah | 21:42 |
| nixternal | that statement is bullshit, because I run openSUSE, Fedora, Arch, and Kubuntu...and they are all the same speed, abuse teh same amount of memory, and crash in the same exact areas | 21:42 |
| jussi01 | and? | 21:43 |
| * jussi01 deleted the mail tihout reading... was there a point? | 21:43 | |
| JontheEchidna | The first email was understandable. The reply-to-digest followup was just somebody trying to bash Kubuntu. | 21:43 |
| nixternal | and not the first time that person has done that | 21:44 |
| JontheEchidna | first time somebody's misread top or the first time somebody's tried to bash Kubuntu? :P | 21:44 |
| JontheEchidna | (guessing neither) | 21:44 |
| nixternal | FUCK! can we get a social/tweeting/denting application that works already? | 21:44 |
| nixternal | I am starting to think the web is the only way to go | 21:45 |
| nixternal | everything I have tried this week bombs | 21:45 |
| Tm_T | sorry... | 21:45 |
| JontheEchidna | even KDE microblog plasma widget? | 21:45 |
| nixternal | twirssi, choqok, some air one, gwibber | 21:45 |
| nixternal | they all bomb | 21:45 |
| nixternal | doesn't that widget only work with twitter? | 21:45 |
| JontheEchidna | it got identica support in 4.1 or 4.2 | 21:46 |
| nixternal | orly, I shall try it then | 21:46 |
| Tm_T | I use typically Kopete | 21:46 |
| neversfelde | choqok 0.6.6 and alpha2 works for me without problems | 21:47 |
| neversfelde | only identi.ca | 21:48 |
| nixternal | once choqok pukes once, it will continuously puke | 21:49 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: so, to have twitter and identica at the same time, I have to run 2 of these plasmoids? | 21:49 |
| JontheEchidna | dunno, I don't microblog | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | I have a hard enough time regular blogging :P | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | well, finding stuff to blog about/being motivated to | 21:50 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: it's not always about writing yourself (: | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | The irc /me command is my microblogging client :D | 21:51 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: you can use some ircbot for that too, yes | 21:52 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: if you really like, I can make some irssi alias to make all your /me posts to be posted to identi.ca too | 21:53 |
| * jussi01 smacks nixternal's hand :P | 21:55 | |
| JontheEchidna | my thoughts on microblogging: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/ (minor language) | 21:56 |
| JontheEchidna | obviously it's a tool that can equally be used properly and abused | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | but I don't see the need for me to use it, personally | 21:57 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: I use it mostly to follow others | 21:58 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe I'll try that | 21:59 |
| nixternal | don't smack my hand | 22:06 |
| Tm_T | yeah, hug whole man instead | 22:06 |
| * Tm_T hugs nixternal | 22:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | So how to I follow people? | 22:07 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, nice subscribe buttons on the profile pages | 22:09 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: for example, go to http://identi.ca/tmt/ and click subscribe | 22:09 |
| Tm_T | bah, you got it already | 22:09 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: and FYI I'm totally lost with these | 22:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm http://identi.ca/jontheechidna | 22:13 |
| neversfelde | what is flag? | 22:18 |
| neversfelde | seems to be new | 22:19 |
| nixternal | lol | 22:26 |
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