[00:00] i did, but as before: just warnings ;) [00:00] warnings are not good :) [00:01] you should solve everything and if there is something that cannot be solved ad an override [00:02] btw that watch file doesn't work if there is no directory index for the target location? [00:03] uuscan jus failed. [00:03] freinhard: for some hosters you cannot add a watch file [00:04] so i'll drop it [00:04] I would find another package, which is in the archive and also hosted on code.google and use the watch file, if it is there, as an example [00:05] but I have always problems with creating proper watch files, too [00:05] probably someone else can give you better help there [00:11] k, no more lintian errors. no i just upload it once again? [00:11] yes [00:11] and find two motus who advocate the package === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:45] freinhard: Also build the package and check the .debs with lintian too [00:49] how much disk space do I need for a full mirror of Karmic i386 (binary and source) ? [00:50] pgquiles: why would one want to do that? [00:55] freinhard: because I'm creating my own distribution, based on kubuntu, for a very specific use case [00:56] pgquiles: creating some sort of overlay with a ppa doesn't cut it? [01:00] freinhard: no, it does not. I'm customizing the boot, heavily modifying ubiquity and more [01:01] I just want to know if 25 GB (all the free space currently in my current hard disk) will be enough [01:03] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror/1 [01:03] 40gb [01:04] freinhard: thank you [01:22] freinhard and pgquiles: That's all archs. For a single arch and source, 25 GB should be fine. === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Lucid Alpha 2 Released! | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html | Meeting scheduling http://doodle.com/xyea69z37v4wrkb9 [01:35] kubuntu.org/news/lucid-alpha-2 [01:39] kubuntunetbook has already tweeted and dented. [01:51] kubuntu.org link to release notes page seems borked? Missing http://. [01:52] Zorael: fixed [01:53] much better. :3 [02:01] Riddell: i thought that silly picture of rod with the funny wig was supposed to be on the alpha 2 release blog post? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [02:08] I have received 623 rosetta translation template import messages \o/ [02:08] * JontheEchidna is glad he didn't upload l10n packages [02:11] * ScottK didn't count, just deleted [02:13] they all go straight to trash, and since I never read them they show up in nice bold letters in the trashcan in KMail [02:14] * ScottK usually hits mail on his phone first and it doesn't filter so well. [02:26] Riddell: How would you feel about removing koffice2 source? That would get rid of one of my few remaining boost1.38 reverse-build-depends. [02:34] for what it's worth the current koffice2 binary packages are broken anyways [02:35] or at least krita is [02:35] The next upload will be as koffice anyway, so the koffice2 source is pointless [02:36] There's already a koffice2 as koffice upload. [03:18] seele: Jono founded the KDE usability project? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/speakers/jono-bacon [03:28] ScottK: he did? lol [03:28] I know he did have some involvement with KDE a long time ago [03:28] oh, the KDE Usability Study [03:28] that's different [03:28] Oh. OK. [03:28] there was some formal usability study he organized [03:28] Fair enough [03:28] dont know if the report is even around [03:29] that's pretty strange to put in your bio though [03:29] i guess for a while he was pushing usability testing so maybe that's part of the promo [03:35] isn't the kde usability study what eventually spawned kickoff? [03:48] i hope not [03:53] Wasn't the Suse? [03:54] yes [03:54] hey, you see the kio_imap4 fix in packagers? a must have like he said for 4.3.x users as well [03:55] I've an SRU mostly finished for that [03:55] just need to go through all the red tape [03:57] bug 350902 [03:57] Launchpad bug 350902 in kdepimlibs "[ubuntu 8.10] kio_imap4 hangs" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350902 [03:58] "wrote some KDE applications" <- ScottK should read "wrote _a_ KDE application" and an application that I used :) [03:58] A core-dev-ish person confirming the karmic nomination would be helpful [03:58] Looking [03:59] actually, we did write an applet and the first ever build script for KDE trunk checkouts [03:59] Should I be able to confirm SRU nominations as a kubuntu-dev? [04:00] JontheEchidna: Done [04:00] (in theory, aside from launchpad failure) [04:00] JontheEchidna: If you can upload the package, you should be able to approve the nomination. [04:00] ScottK: thanks [04:05] bug 507773, which only had to have "rebuild" changed to "confirm/reject SRU nominations" from his report about the latter :/ [04:05] Launchpad bug 507773 in launchpad "Cannot confirm SRU tasks for packages I have upload rights to." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507773 [04:05] *the former [04:12] ScottK: we would want this to go into backports as well, yes? [04:12] JontheEchidna: Yes. [04:13] Open a task against karmic-backports and then find someone in ubuntu-backporters to approve it. [04:13] would subscribing ubuntu-backporters do the trick? [04:13] Possibly. Asking me would probably be faster though. [04:13] ;-) [04:13] heh [04:14] ScottK: karmic-backports task opened [04:14] Looking [04:15] JontheEchidna: Approved. You can upload to karmic-backports and then ping me and I'll accept it. [04:16] ScottK: I've tried uploading to karmic-backports before. It appears the per-package upload rights aren't backwards-compatible [04:16] will try again to see if things have changed [04:16] JontheEchidna: OK. Fling me a debdiff after you test it and I'll upload it if it doesn't work. [04:25] rejected [04:25] so cruel... [04:25] ScottK: http://pastebin.com/f45f596a0 [04:26] Looking. File another bug for that one then. [04:30] JontheEchidna: Uploaded. Once it appears, I'll accept it. [04:30] bug 507779 [04:30] Launchpad bug 507779 in soyuz "Cannot upload packages for which I have upload rights for to karmic-backports " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507779 [04:31] yet another copypasta, replacing "confirm/reject SRU nominations" to "upload things to -backports" [04:32] My lack of attention to detail in writing a fresh report each time reflects the lack of attention to detail soyuz has for supporting per-package upload rights :P [04:33] I just closed 76 bugs with one upload. Nice. [04:34] ~order vegan low-sugar cookies for crimsun [04:34] * kubotu slides vegan low-sugar cookies down the bar to crimsun [04:34] epic [04:37] JontheEchidna: Accepted. [04:37] We need to get a KDE guy on ubuntu-sru [04:37] Nah, just ping jdong. He'll approve anything. [04:45] JontheEchidna: Get someone else (like nixternal) to upload that one so I can accept it (backports isn't strict about that) [04:45] I need to stop reading that as j-dong [04:45] giggidy giggidy [04:46] (ping if you still need it done) [04:47] daskreech: but that is how it's read.... j for john, and dong for...dong [04:47] maco: Ah I read it as japanese [04:48] no, i think he's chinese [04:51] Chon Wang? [04:53] JontheEchidna: jdong says upload first, so crimsun, if you're still available .... [04:57] jdong has ack'd [04:58] * crimsun scrollls [04:58] -l [05:11] crimsun: thanks for the sponsor [05:12] ScottK: it's waiting for approval now [05:12] yay [05:13] JontheEchidna: Done [05:13] This has been perhaps the speediest SRU I've taken part in [05:17] They go faster late at night when no adults are around. [05:21] the buildds are nice and empty too [05:35] I think I have the last two uploads before I ask for boost 1.38 removal test building. Neither of them are short, so I think I'll head off to bed. === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [08:33] has someone got a vanilla or almost vanilla lucid going? === Tm_Tr_ is now known as Tm_Tr [09:45] Riddell: corporate identity [09:45] Riddell: that is re: what does CI stand for [09:46] markey: ahoy, well, kind of recovered, its not like you ever get true rest when you are me ;) [09:47] hehe [09:47] I know this condition [09:49] Riddell: how did the interview go? [10:18] anyone knows how can I display list of AP's near me in command line? [10:45] Riddell: ping [10:45] message indicator widget has been renamed [10:45] https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-message-indicator [10:45] I just made a new release [10:51] agateau: yay :) [10:52] Riddell: the only new "feature" is the ability to embed the widget in the systemtray [10:53] Speaking of which, I think it would make the system look cleaner if the default configuration used embedded widgets whenever possible [10:53] groovy, I'll update that package later today [10:53] embedded widgets? [10:53] In the systemtray settings, there is a new page [10:54] which lets you embed plasma widgets inside the tray [10:54] they take less space this way (good for netbooks) [10:56] oh yes we want to do that, we list that in one of our specs [10:56] cool! [10:56] so you can now embed the m-i as well [10:56] lovely [11:04] Quintasan|Szel: iwlist device scan [11:04] e.g. iwlist wlan0 scan [12:22] jussi01: the ubuntu-devel guys are not so friendly like our ones in here :D [12:23] * ghostcube hides if anyone is cross joined :D [12:26] ghostcube: who isn't? [12:26] no one likes my jokes today :| [12:27] I liked it, didn't you see me almost smile (;) [12:28] :D === Pici` is now known as Pici [12:46] * Riddell has a crack at the new sip/python-qt [13:07] agateau: I think I found a bug, you can't right click on message indicator if there's no indicator applications running [13:09] bug 507905 [13:09] Launchpad bug 507905 in plasma-widget-message-indicator "can't right click if no apps running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507905 [13:11] Perhaps it should just dissappear in such cases. [13:11] maybe, that is what the decide notifier does if it's embedded in systray [13:11] device [13:12] Oooh. /me wants. [13:12] That's been my main bitch about the device notifier. [13:12] the device notifier also seems to use an alarming exclamation mark icon these days when it pops up === hunger_t is now known as hunger [13:23] Riddell: oh, you found it as well :) [13:29] hmm, turns out if you remove sip then KDE breaks === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:39] good morning everybody [13:40] it's jonathan! [13:41] hi jonathan [13:42] so... anybody up for sponsoring a kde4libs/kdebase-workspace/kubuntu-default-settings/kdepimilbs quadruple upload? :D [13:43] JontheEchidna: I'm onto it as we speak [13:43] nice [13:44] The Todo is filling out quite nicely, for the point in the cycle we're in [13:51] JontheEchidna: quadruple uploaded! [13:52] rock [13:52] kdebase-runtime needs an upload too, come to think of it [13:53] kdeplasma-addons also has some substantial changes in bzr [13:54] ok, let's make it a sextuplet upload [13:54] hehe [14:04] glatzor says he'll look at updating packagekit stuff this weekend [14:04] awesome [14:11] webkitkde is looking pretty good. I have high hopes for it for lucid+1 [14:11] JontheEchidna: just if all that would compile in kdenetwork too (; [14:12] atleast here it fails to build nicely [14:14] JontheEchidna: watch out for text fields suddently deleting themselves, I've been caught out by that a couple of times and there's no undo [14:15] Tm_T: all what? [14:20] Riddell: kget konqueror plugin doesn't build here with webkit kpart, nor does babelfish konqueror extension [14:21] I haven't had much time to investigate this, but it started when there were header renaming in webkitkde svn [14:21] and simply fixing includes doesn't work [14:23] but are we interested about kget integration with webkitpart? [14:28] Riddell: will give exact errors as soon as I get that far in my builds [14:29] building after Qt update [14:29] How will the removal of HAL affect Solid's functionality in Lucid? [14:29] Or will you just install HAL as KDE dependency? [14:31] Tm_T: I doubt upstream expects them to compuile [14:31] compile [14:31] sebas: where's this? [14:31] sebas: since KDE needs hal still we'll need to keep it as a dependency [14:31] ah, so it won'tbe in Ubuntu, but will be in Kubuntu? [14:32] Riddell: but did (: [14:33] sebas: hal is directly in our seeds [14:33] ah [14:33] thanks for the answer :) [14:33] Just wondered when I read the Lucid Alpha announcement [14:35] sebas: it does raise the risk that if hal breaks nobody except us will care about it, and we're not experts at maintaining hal [14:35] How is that is different from the situation since ~two years? [14:36] ubuntu desktop was still using hal for something so more people cared about it [14:36] Danny Kukawka has taken over maintainance of HAL, no? [14:36] I mean care about it as packagers within ubuntu [14:37] Riddell: maybe we can skip devicekit and use whatever tech David comes up with when devicekit is "kind of working" and he moves on to rewrite that stuff again ;) [14:37] sebas: I believe devicekit is already dead [14:37] it's all udev now, or something [14:37] ok, skip two iterations then :) [14:37] devicekit's already dead? Oo [14:38] they should make up their minds [14:38] * sebas notes that this is the exact thing that drives 3rd party developers nuts [14:38] JontheEchidna: and miss all the fun? [14:38] where s/nuts/away [14:39] sebas: and this is exactly why KDE/whatever should provide abstraction layer, so 3rd party developers doesn't have to follow things themselves [14:39] It's also the exact reason for having Solid [14:39] and does [14:39] sebas: that [14:39] same goes for pol(icy)kit, btw [14:39] that's also an utter mess, dead in the water before a stable API is there [14:40] packagekit? [14:40] feel free to package shaman [15:09] sebas: afair devicekit was just a temp. workaround until udev supports multiplexing and can feed devicekit-* modules itself [15:10] that might be how it ended out but it wasn't the intention at the start I'm pretty sure :) [15:10] allee-k: right, hence deprecating HAL was a mistake [15:10] same goes for policykit, gstreamer, networkmanager, ... [15:10] all unstable APIs [15:12] sebas: teaching linux to be more dynamic as disks/sticks/networks is still work in progress :( [15:13] disk/sticks/networks come and go ... === ykozlov is now known as yuriy [15:18] agateau: Still around. I have some indicator feedback for you. [15:19] ScottK: phone call, will be available in a few minutes [15:19] agateau: Great. Let me know when [15:21] allee-k: I know ... doesn't mean that "change API at will" is a good idea [15:22] That's actually something Windows does really well [15:22] keeping backwards compatibility [15:25] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [15:25] <_Groo_> any word from the street saying when koffice 2.1.1 will be in lucid? :) [15:26] nixternal has the lock [15:32] ScottK: I am all hears [15:32] ears* [15:32] OK [15:32] I've been using the indicator since I switched to Karmic and have some conclusions for you. [15:33] I'm sure you recall my concerns about being one click away from getting to an IRC highlight versus two. [15:33] yes [15:34] What I've found is that if I'm at my computer and I get highlighted, I much prefer clicking on the Quassel icon, but if I've been away and I may have multiple highlights, I like the indicator. [15:34] The indicator does a good job of giving me overall 'situational awareness' of who's been talking to me. [15:34] because it gives you more with one click I guess [15:34] Yes, because it gives me who, what channel, and how long ago. [15:35] interesting [15:35] If I'm sitting here, I don't care about that because I know which message I care about. The one that just happened. [15:36] So I was thinking about what it would take for me to completely switch to the indicator. [15:36] I have a couple of ideas .... [15:36] auto-popup? [15:36] What if it did something like on click went to the last event directly and on shift-click raised the menu? [15:37] Maybe, but that could get a little distracting I think. [15:37] true [15:37] shift-click is like a handy shortcut, I would maybe do the opposite [15:38] Except that (from my view), that's still a step back from just clicking on the icon. [15:38] a new user won't have a chance to know about the menu because he won't try shift-click [15:38] I see your point [15:39] The second issue is the menu when I right click on the icon. [15:39] That's how I normally connect my client to the core. [15:39] It occurs to me that now that we have dbus menu, the indicator could support that too. [15:40] Right click on the indicator opens the dbus menu for selected apps or something. [15:40] I think the plan for Lucid (at least on the GNOME side) is to be able to show some actions in the m-i message [15:40] we could imaging a "Connect to core" for Quassel [15:40] imagine* [15:40] Sure. [15:41] but that's what was rejected before: launchers [15:41] Connecting isn't launching [15:41] true, but we are getting close [15:41] wouldn't a new user expect to open a menu with right click? [15:42] Sput: on plasmoids, right-click is more usually associated with configuring the plasmoid itself [15:42] at least a new user coming from windows or KDE [15:42] Which is why I was thinking the the indicator could be configured to open the dbus menu for selected apps it's 'replacing' in the systray [15:42] it's not intended for "normal" interaction [15:42] agateau: hmmm... Menu -> "Configure"? :) [15:42] ScottK: wow, interesting! need to think about that a bit [15:42] well, dunno. don't have much experience. but I'm used to left-click to execute some activation or default action, and right-click to get a context menu [15:43] for tray icons [15:43] Sput: Agreed. [15:43] Sput: for tray icons, yes, but for things like K menu, battery applet... it's different [15:43] device notifier [15:43] agateau: Certainly. It just occurs to me that with dbus menu it doesn't always have to be the actual application's icon in the systray that triggers the menu. It's more of a separate front end/back end. [15:44] ScottK: I agree [15:44] agateau: So those are me thoughts. I hope they are useful. [15:44] me/my [15:45] They are, thanks for sharing [15:45] No problem === njpatel_ is now known as njpatel === yofel_ is now known as yofel === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [16:40] _Groo_: I am not rushing KOffice...since it is now in main, to upload it means stripping it of a lot of dependencies...not going to waste my time for that...more important to get the dependencies up to date and MIR'd than it is to package 2.1.1 right now [16:41] nixternal: Don't forget to switch to boost1.40. Koffice will shortly be the last boost.138 user in Main [16:41] yup [16:43] LTS is all about fixing stuff :) I kind of like LTS [16:43] ScottK: did you reboot the Mac last night by chance? [16:43] I heard the sound [16:43] nixternal: I did. [16:44] hahaha [16:44] There were security updates .... [16:44] I was watching TV and heard it [16:44] <_Groo_> nixternal: well ok, is there any ppa i could get it from? or should i do it myself? [16:44] put it in a ppa if you need it I ugess [16:44] wow, guess [16:44] i read something about nepomuk search will be integrated in dolpin in kde4.4RC1. i cant find it in kubuntu 10.04A2. How to activate it? [16:45] <_Groo_> mellhen: its there in beta 2 and rc1, just open dolphin and search in the menus, its like the normal search but wehn you typue stuff a drop down appears [16:46] mellhen: We don't have it yet. Still issues with getting the back end database packaged. [16:46] <_Groo_> ScottK: you mean virtuoso or sesame2? [16:46] _Groo_: Virtuoso [16:46] <_Groo_> ScottK: ah but isnt virtuoso 5.0.12 in lucid now? [16:47] _Groo_: IIRC not in Main yet. [16:47] [16:48] <_Groo_> ScottK: yes but in universe :) [16:48] ScottK: but it will make it into release? [16:48] mellhen: Definitely. [16:48] _Groo_: Do we need to build depend on it for it to work? [16:49] mellhen: _Groo_ may have a better status on it than I do. [16:49] ScottK: it should be easier to find. maybe a searchbar which is always visible. [16:50] <_Groo_> ScottK: no, just install it, and relog into kde, it will start the anokadi server, also use akonadiconsole and config to check the input [16:50] mellhen: There you go I guess you can use it. [16:50] <_Groo_> ScottK: its working very well, sincronizing my google contacts and calendar and othe stuff :) [16:51] ScottK: is it allowed to ask about some minibugs here. i also published it at launchpad but feel itl get lost there, [16:52] mellhen: To a limited exent. [16:52] <_Groo_> btw i just built kcm_touchpad for lucid, and its working very well with 4.4 rc1 :) [16:52] <_Groo_> its in my ppa [16:54] ScottK: its about kdebluetooth. if your bluetooth divice is switched off while starting kubuntu. kdebluetooth will not start after you turns the device on. you have to manually do it (krunner: kbluetooth) [16:54] _Groo_: so who is the guy who is able to change this behaviour? [16:54] mellhen: I'd report that to bugs.kde.org. [16:55] mellhen: For nepomuk it's just work we know we still have to do. [16:55] Hi - writing a News about Alpha2. _ has HAL now completly gone and is replaced by udev-extra ? [16:55] ScottK: are bugs reported on launpad send to bug.kde.org? [16:55] mellhen: Not automatically. Someone needs to do it. The odds of it getting done go way up if you do it yourself. [16:56] Tscheesy: Not in KDE. [16:56] ah k.. still used for input-devices? [16:57] ScottK: who decides if a bug goes to bugs.kde.org. is it possible to decide this as a usuall launchpad user? [16:58] mellhen: You have to refile the bug. There is no automatic export, so anyone can do it. [16:58] Our bug triage team is very small, so the more help the better. [16:58] ok [16:58] ScottK: ok [17:00] ScottK: i would like to help. but i dont know if iam advanced enough [17:01] mellhen: I can already tell you are. [17:01] mellhen: You can join #kubuntu-bugs [17:01] ScottK: the triaged status means, that sb is working on this bug or that this bug is reported to kde? [17:02] mellhen: Triaged means it has enough diagnostic information for a developer to solve it. [17:02] * ScottK gives JontheEchidna a gentle kick for not being in #kubuntu-bugs [18:13] now that the crash is fixed we can finally see what the default desktop looks like :P [18:13] http://imagebin.ca/view/Pc1i1o.html [18:14] (there's a new wallpaper coming for RC2 though) [18:16] JontheEchidna: uh, really? [18:16] Tm_T: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/Ethais/ [18:19] kde svn 1073351 [18:19] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1073351&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1073351 [18:21] that wallpaper reminds me of the wold compaq wallpapers for windows xp [18:21] s/wold/old/ [18:22] the one that came with my PC had a blueish background with a bunch of pills :x [18:24] those square things, that is the Compaq Q, just without making it a Q [18:30] oh, so that's not the 4.5 wallpaper? [18:31] I was wondering, but I don't have any 4.4 boxen left to check :) [18:31] JontheEchidna: ah, missed that one, thanks [18:31] JontheEchidna: I was already hoping cubes would stay [18:31] * Sput didn't like Quadros [18:31] the new one is a masterpiece though [18:31] Sput: but it will motivate users to change wallpaper to something their own choice (; [18:32] poor pinheiro, quadros was his baby :/ [19:08] yeah double logins are fixed :) [19:09] \o/ [19:10] now i just need my white "scanlines" with hardlock issue fixed :P [20:13] <_Groo_> ppl im building the ktorrent 4 beta 1 packages, how do i disable the stupid test runs of cmake in the rules file? (/usr/bin/ctest --force-new-ctest-process) [20:58] has anyone else seen a corrupted plasma tray/bar like this? http://imagebin.ca/view/qE4ciKS.html [20:59] I had this: http://noob.hu/2010/01/15/lucid3.png [20:59] Lucid alpha 2 in VirtualBox [21:02] freinhard: no, but I can confirm that the new widgets for systray like weather and pastebin are grayed out in Karmic [21:02] you have to add a new widget to configure it and it is grayed out again after a restart [21:02] no Lucid yet, so I cannot confirm it for 10.04 [21:03] if waiting for 4.4rc2 dixes the issue i'll just wait? [21:07] freinhard: looks like a custom design, does the problam also appear with standard oxygen? [21:08] neversfelde: erm that black you see should be grey, and i deleted all plasma config files and that's how it looks like [21:09] freinhard: ok, than it is probably the panel geomatry bug mentioned in the release notes? [21:09] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LucidLynx/Alpha2/Kubuntu [21:09] s/geomatry/geometry [21:11] freinhard: looks like a different bug [21:11] and it's already fixed [21:14] mhh yes === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [21:19] well since intel started screwing their driver i'm never sure whether graphics issues are qt, kde or driver related [21:39] yet another wtf cares moment on the list...$X does this better than $Y, but I won't provide you any information to either a) prove this statement or b) if statement is true I won't provide information that might lead to a possible solution [21:41] the reply-to-the-digest mail? [21:42] yeah [21:42] that statement is bullshit, because I run openSUSE, Fedora, Arch, and Kubuntu...and they are all the same speed, abuse teh same amount of memory, and crash in the same exact areas [21:43] and? [21:43] * jussi01 deleted the mail tihout reading... was there a point? [21:43] The first email was understandable. The reply-to-digest followup was just somebody trying to bash Kubuntu. [21:44] and not the first time that person has done that [21:44] first time somebody's misread top or the first time somebody's tried to bash Kubuntu? :P [21:44] (guessing neither) [21:44] FUCK! can we get a social/tweeting/denting application that works already? [21:45] I am starting to think the web is the only way to go [21:45] everything I have tried this week bombs [21:45] sorry... [21:45] even KDE microblog plasma widget? [21:45] twirssi, choqok, some air one, gwibber [21:45] they all bomb [21:45] doesn't that widget only work with twitter? [21:46] it got identica support in 4.1 or 4.2 [21:46] orly, I shall try it then [21:46] I use typically Kopete [21:47] choqok 0.6.6 and alpha2 works for me without problems [21:48] only identi.ca [21:49] once choqok pukes once, it will continuously puke [21:49] JontheEchidna: so, to have twitter and identica at the same time, I have to run 2 of these plasmoids? [21:50] dunno, I don't microblog [21:50] I have a hard enough time regular blogging :P [21:50] well, finding stuff to blog about/being motivated to [21:50] JontheEchidna: it's not always about writing yourself (: [21:51] The irc /me command is my microblogging client :D [21:52] JontheEchidna: you can use some ircbot for that too, yes [21:53] JontheEchidna: if you really like, I can make some irssi alias to make all your /me posts to be posted to identi.ca too [21:55] * jussi01 smacks nixternal's hand :P [21:56] my thoughts on microblogging: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/ (minor language) [21:57] obviously it's a tool that can equally be used properly and abused [21:57] but I don't see the need for me to use it, personally [21:58] JontheEchidna: I use it mostly to follow others [21:59] maybe I'll try that [22:06] don't smack my hand [22:06]