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funkyHatI'm getting "Not allowed here" on this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506656 (a link I clicked on on the Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 release page)01:36
ubottuError: This bug is private01:36
funkyHatOh I see01:37
funkyHatThe error page doesn't make that particularly clear01:37
Some_PersonHow can I roll back to an earlier version of a package (still on launchpad)? It says the status is "superseded"02:59
Some_PersonI already deleted the newer one (which failed to build)02:59
bigjoolsSome_Person: what do you mena by roll back, exactly?04:47
bigjoolsmean*04:47
Some_PersonI deleted a version of a package I uploaded last night (it failed to build), and I want the old version to no longer be superseded04:51
bigjoolsSome_Person: go to copy packages and copy the superseded package back into the PPA04:55
bigjoolswith binaries04:55
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asabilhi all09:08
asabilcan someone fix the ownership of this project: https://code.launchpad.net/vala ?09:09
asabilit should belong to ~vala-team09:09
persiaasabil: file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad so the request can be tracked.09:12
adeuringasabil: the current owner can to this09:12
adeuring...can do this09:12
asabiladeuring, I contacted the owner about 3 times, no replies09:13
asabilpersia, I think I already did last year09:13
adeuringpersia, asabil: yes, filing a question is another option. But: this should normally be done by the project owner.09:14
adeuringasabil: can you give me a URL?09:14
asabiladeuring, I am looking for the question09:14
asabilthe question I asked was about the broken vcs import09:15
asabilI will create a new one09:15
adeuringasabil: OK, I understand09:19
asabiladeuring, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/9748309:21
adeuringasabil: ok, thanks. Let me ask the current owner another time what he thinks and if he doesn't replay within a few days, let's change the ownership09:22
asabilok that's perfect09:23
asabilthanks a lot09:23
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didrockshey launchpad guys. Any idea why my email is not linked to my profile? (I've added my canonical one this morning and push the branch after): https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session11:31
jussi01Hrm, who is responsible for packaging launchpadlib?11:40
jussi01hrm... looks like its james_w ...11:49
jussi01james_w: you around atm?11:49
* jussi01 assumes not, its probably a little early. in any case, james_w could you please ping me when you wake up?11:50
adeuringdidrocks: I can see your canonical email address on your LP page. What exactly is your problem?11:55
didrocksadeuring: it's just not linked with my lp account (you can't click on my name and head to my LP page)11:58
adeuringdidrocks: sorry, on which page(s) do you miss the click possibility?11:59
didrocksadeuring: if you head to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session, you can, for instance, click on "Mario Limonciello"'s name at commit 3655 for instance12:01
didrocksbut you can't on mine next to commit 365612:01
didrocksis that more clear?12:01
adeuringdidrocks: ah, thanks, now I understand! that something for the code hosting guys... rockstar: ^^^12:04
didrocksadeuring: sorry for not being clear enough at first glance :)12:06
adeuringdidrocks: np -- I'm sometimes a bit slow...12:06
wgrantdidrocks: The Code guys are hopefully all asleep by now, but try waiting a day or two.12:28
wgrantdidrocks: Revisions are linked to new email addresses only daily.12:28
persiaDoes that happen retroactively as well?12:28
wgrantYes.12:28
didrockswgrant: ok, I'll wait over the week-end so, and will see. Thanks :)12:29
persiaNifty trick that.12:29
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zekopeko_hi16:13
zekopeko_is there a bug about launchpad and having your team members displayed in the assign dialog?16:13
zekopeko_i don't see why i need to search when in 95% of the cases i want to assign my own team members16:14
idnarif you're in several teams that could be quite a long list16:18
persiazekopeko_: For some people it's harder to make that choice.  For instance, I'm on a lot of different teams, so it's not clear in what capacity I'm interacting with LP.16:18
zekopeko_persia, but in great majority of cases the project == team16:35
zekopeko_i'm not saying remove the search16:35
zekopeko_but give me the last 10 people that i assigned to bugs from this project16:35
zekopeko_or if it's my first time give me 10 people from the team that is related to the project16:36
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adeuringzekopeko_: I think you make a good and valid point. While persia and idnar are right that it is sometimes difficult to figure out the right team, an improved person selection dialog would often be really nice. For example, we could store the 5 or 10 most recently selected persons in a cookie. Fancy to file a bug about it?16:52
zekopeko_yup16:53
zekopeko_just give me a good title16:53
* zekopeko_ sucks at bug titles16:53
idnarfwiw, I like that idea too16:53
adeuringzekopeko_: I'm not really better in finding useful bug titles ;) Anyway, what about "selecting persons as bug asignees is cumbersome"16:55
zekopeko_cool16:55
geserfor subscriptions please too as I usually only subscribe a few different teams16:56
* adeuring had exactly the pleasure to assign the same people again and again the last days.16:57
adeuringgeser: yeah, I think if we work on the person selection dialog, it will affect all dialogs at once.16:57
zekopeko_https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/50800517:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 508005 in launchpad "Selecting persons as bug assignees is cumbersome" [Undecided,New]17:01
zekopeko_any suggestions?17:01
adeuringzekopeko_: sounds good17:04
maxbI'd like it if it didn't bother to search if you actually typed a full team name including the ~ into the box17:12
cody-somervilleor for projects if you enter in the actual codename of a project17:13
cody-somerville(or atleast shows that project first)17:13
adeuringmaxb, cody-somerville: add your suggestions to the bug filed by zekopeko_ ;)17:17
maxbWe probably shouldn't conflate it17:18
maxbActually, reading zekopeko_'s bug, I strenuously disagree17:18
maxbWe don't want inexperienced users to assign bugs, and this seems to be making that a little too easy17:19
zekopeko_maxb, allow teams to lock that part from editing by non-members?17:20
zekopeko_and just because noobs MIGHT assign someone doesn't mean we shouldn't implement it17:20
zekopeko_but even if a noob assigns someone its at least easier for you to change it ;)17:21
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Flare183What does this error mean and how can I fix it? bzr: ERROR: xmlrpc protocol error connecting to https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: 401 Unauthorized18:10
marsFlare183, what were you trying to do when you saw that error?18:11
Flare183mars: I was trying to register a new bzr branch via the terminal18:12
sfearsis launchpad the best place to report bugs?18:12
marsFlare183, just looking at the bzr help docs.  Maybe you are not logged in using bzr, or it does not have your keys.18:13
Flare183hm ok18:13
marsFlare183, have you successfully pushed a branch before?18:13
Flare183mars: Yes, many times18:13
marssfears, that is a pretty vague question :)  What kind of bugs are you reporting?18:14
marsFlare183, what was the bzr command you used?18:15
marsbzr push lp:~... ?18:15
Flare183bzr register-branch18:15
Flare183I just pushed up a revision to a different branch and it worked perfectly so I know something works18:16
sfearsusing file/add media in banshee the program terminates18:16
marsFlare183, ok, I'll defer to someone else on that one.  beuno, ^ ?18:16
marsFlare183, believe it or not, I have never used the register-branch command, so I am at a loss :)18:16
Flare183I understand. Its ok :)18:17
beunoI haven't either...18:17
Flare183:S18:17
marsFlare183, maybe they would know over in #bzr ?18:17
Flare183Yeah, let me try taht18:17
Flare183that*18:17
marssfears, yes, but there is an easier way: does Banshee have a "Report a Problem" menu item under the Help menu?18:19
sfearsi just found that.. i'm checking that now mars18:20
marssfears, also, you may want to check here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/banshee18:20
sfearswill check the web site.. there's no "report a problem" in banshee18:21
marsbeuno, on that banshee bugs page, the "Report a bug" link doesn't stand out, eh?  It just shows up as yet more red text, and worse, it is in the banner blindness area :(18:21
sfearsi see the report a bug on the web pages.. i meant that banshee doesn't have "report a bug" in the help menu18:23
marssfears, yep, I understand.  I was just pointing out the poor link colour to our user experience expert18:24
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blueyed"Internal server error" at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blueyed/b2evolution/dev/files18:43
marsbeuno, you know loggerhead well.  ^ is that normal? :)18:46
beunomars, no, it's hung and we need a LOSA to restart18:47
marsChex, ^ ?18:47
Chexbeuno: mars: on it now18:51
beunothanks Chex18:51
marsthanks Chex. blueyed ^18:51
blueyedthanks for the notification. Why is that not monitored correctly?18:53
blueyedAfter all, I need to use the web gui now, since bzr itself runs out of memory when checking out.. :/18:54
blueyedplease ping me, when this is fixed.18:54
blueyedChex: ^18:55
Chexbeuno: mars: blueyed: ok, it should be back now18:55
blueyedyes, thanks.18:55
marsChex, yep, works for me18:55
blueyedChex: please setup monitoring for it!18:55
Chexthat was an odd one, our nagios check showed it as  running18:55
blueyedthen fix it :)18:56
Chexand it was responding to some requests...18:56
marsChex, resource exhaustion leading to a trickling request throughput?18:56
ChexIll make a note of that in the incident log.18:56
beunoChex, I think it got updated recently, so it may be running a patch we're trying out18:56
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mnftHi Barry, are you listening?19:46
barrymnft: loud and clear19:46
mnftAndreas, from Berlin19:46
barrymnft: hi!  how's it going?19:46
mnftfine, thanks, and you? Got your mails python-mode19:47
frangorhi19:47
barrydoing good.  yep, i saw there were three branches that were waiting for review or merge, so i just wanted to comment on them to see if we could move them along19:48
mnftlast time it was fine with hs from mikail, btw dropped all my own stuff, so if you agree, starting again with hs on top of yours19:49
barrymnft: sorry, can you provide more context?  which branch are you talking about?19:50
mnfths means hide-show19:51
mnftwell, didn't start yet. just wanted to leave you a message saying i'm on it19:51
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barryah cool, i don't use hide-show :)  sounds great, thanks!19:53
mnfthide-show is much more advanced than outline IMHO, as its not restricted to the end of line19:55
mnftok, I'll leave that chat. have a nice day, bye19:56
barrycool, you too19:56
sinzuiedakiri: hi20:14
edakiriHi, about the recently created and disabled project named 'gpl', for a GPLv3 Licenced library,20:15
edakiriHi.  here is user kiri on LaunchPad.  Yes, I did and do wish to make the project with name gpl.  If you check in Branches, you will see that there is code, which I marked as Mature.  It was deliberate that I made an open team maintainer of the project in order to promote 'drive by contribution'.  I had just logged on to LaunchPad to write some short BluePrints.20:15
sinzuiedakiri: maybe the name needs to change. Why would any want to contribute to your project?20:16
edakiriI think I don't understand the question.  Rephrase with new aspect?20:17
edakiriaspect --> variation on perspective20:17
sinzuiedakiri: The name is what implies this project is for yourself, not the community. The project was named fnord with a description of "prime numbers", I would have approved it20:18
sinzuiedakiri: Every user has a private place to keep code. Projects are pubic for users to contribute to, to translate, to create packages from...20:19
sinzuiedakiri: the gpl team also has a +junk namespace to share code between team members20:21
edakiriI have no idea of why a project named 'gpl' would make the impression it is for 'myself'.  In fact, I don't understand how releasing code under GPL3 license and publishing it and making it writeable to by any willing participants could yield the impression of being 'for myself'.  In any case, that is not so.  I am seeking participation.  Otherwise I would not have: published it, made it writable to by an open team; written a description that w20:21
sinzuiedakiri: I reactivated https://launchpad.net/gpl so that we can look at it together20:22
sinzuiThe title "GPL 3 Licensed Code" does not look like a legitimate project. It does not appear to have a focus. What will your project produce?20:24
edakiriA library of GPL version 3 or licensed code in C++.   I have my own ideas for the future of it, for which I was going to write BluePrints, but I do not wish to restrict it to my own design, but rather hope to gather many small contributions in a SO library.20:27
sinzuiedakiri: The team (a group of people) has this description "Content Licensed under GPL3 and Later.", which is do not understand because teams are communication/ACL devices. They are not a representation of code that can have a license.20:28
edakiriImmediately, it has the code for finding primes and factors, and likely soon for an especially fast log2 calculation.20:28
maxbedakiri: I'm just another Launchpad user, but perhaps a 3rd party viewpoint can help unblock this discussion: Why do you think naming your library after the licence it is under is a sensible thing to do?20:29
maxbA project's name is vital part of people understanding what it is. To write a prime factoring library and to name it "General Public Licence" is just.... hugely confusing.20:30
sinzuiedakiri: I think you will attract more contributors if you can fins and name that explains goals or encapulates an idea the license and language was already on the page, and that information is not remarkable when there are 20,000 like it20:31
edakiriImagine a person who works full time not on a FLOSS project but has some code which is suitable for reuse in a library, but is not worth doing individual packaging for.  I wish to integrate that persons contributions.  If there were 20000 like it, I would not have created it. Or if there are then, point me to it, because I've looked for it and not found it.20:32
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ScottKThen name is Library of GPL LIbraries, not GPL20:33
ScottKis/it20:33
edakiriThat would be a good full name, ScottK20:33
edakiriThe full name is presently, "GPL 3  Licensed Code", but I am not set on that.20:34
edakiri"GPL3 licensed library(s)", perhaps better.20:34
ScottKCollection of ....20:35
sinzuiedakiri: That is an excellent background point. I approved your project. I think your project will be successful with a name and description that people can search for and find20:35
edakiriPresently, it is all C++, but I hope to get bindings for other languages.20:35
maxbedakiri: Is there to be no common theme connecting the bits of code in this project? Why are you lumping them all into one project rather than having separate projects?20:37
edakiriScottK: I imagine keeping it a single library.20:37
edakirimaxb: reduced overhead in publishing, packaging.20:38
maxbLeads to increased overhead and confusion for developers and consumers20:40
edakiriI guess you don't like "boost"?20:41
maxbThat is, at least, somewhat modular20:41
edakirimaxb: you might be right, but it is certainly far from certain for me.20:41
edakiriright now it is too small to warrant modularity.20:42
edakiriI would be glad if some day it becomes so large.20:42
ScottKboost would be OK if it had better API stability.20:46
A4TechAll greetings. Question: How long to wait until the launchpad compile the package after uploading sources, and where i can see the status or turn on the compilation. And should there come a letter if something goes wrong20:59
maxbA4Tech: By 5 minutes after uploading, you should be able to see information and progress in the pages for your PPA21:00
A4Techin my PPA no changes21:01
maxbCheck your email for a rejection notice.21:04
maxbCheck your .changes file to be absolutely sure it is correctly gpg-signed with a key known to launchpad, or Launchpad won't know who to send a rejection notice to21:05
A4Techmaxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357246/21:05
maxbA4Tech: You are launchpad.net/~rmpic30 ?21:07
A4Techmaxb: yes21:07
maxbThe key ID in your pastebin does not match the key ID on your launchpad profile21:08
A4Techgm21:08
A4Techo_O21:08
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A4Techmaxb: Unable to find distroseries: unstable; what is it mean?21:31
maxbIt means ubuntu has no such series called "unstable"21:31
maxbWhich ubuntu series did you actually want it built in?21:32
A4Techkarmic21:32
A4Techunstable => karmic? :)21:33
maxbThen you should say so in the changelog21:33
A4Techok21:33
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edakiriScottK: I retract what I said about a single library.  I really wanted to keep it to a single or few 'build systems'.  I was ruminating about how well the linker could handle 1 shared library per function or object type.21:58
james_wjussi01: hi22:54
james_wjussi01: email may be be best to contact me, as I am out of timezone right no22:54
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jussi01james_w: all sorted now, thanks23:13
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