[01:36] <funkyHat> I'm getting "Not allowed here" on this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506656 (a link I clicked on on the Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 release page)
[01:37] <funkyHat> Oh I see
[01:37] <funkyHat> The error page doesn't make that particularly clear
[02:59] <Some_Person> How can I roll back to an earlier version of a package (still on launchpad)? It says the status is "superseded"
[02:59] <Some_Person> I already deleted the newer one (which failed to build)
[04:47] <bigjools> Some_Person: what do you mena by roll back, exactly?
[04:47] <bigjools> mean*
[04:51] <Some_Person> I deleted a version of a package I uploaded last night (it failed to build), and I want the old version to no longer be superseded
[04:55] <bigjools> Some_Person: go to copy packages and copy the superseded package back into the PPA
[04:55] <bigjools> with binaries
[09:08] <asabil> hi all
[09:09] <asabil> can someone fix the ownership of this project: https://code.launchpad.net/vala ?
[09:09] <asabil> it should belong to ~vala-team
[09:12] <persia> asabil: file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad so the request can be tracked.
[09:12] <adeuring> asabil: the current owner can to this
[09:12] <adeuring> ...can do this
[09:13] <asabil> adeuring, I contacted the owner about 3 times, no replies
[09:13] <asabil> persia, I think I already did last year
[09:14] <adeuring> persia, asabil: yes, filing a question is another option. But: this should normally be done by the project owner.
[09:14] <adeuring> asabil: can you give me a URL?
[09:14] <asabil> adeuring, I am looking for the question
[09:15] <asabil> the question I asked was about the broken vcs import
[09:15] <asabil> I will create a new one
[09:19] <adeuring> asabil: OK, I understand
[09:21] <asabil> adeuring, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/97483
[09:22] <adeuring> asabil: ok, thanks. Let me ask the current owner another time what he thinks and if he doesn't replay within a few days, let's change the ownership
[09:23] <asabil> ok that's perfect
[09:23] <asabil> thanks a lot
[11:31] <didrocks> hey launchpad guys. Any idea why my email is not linked to my profile? (I've added my canonical one this morning and push the branch after): https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session
[11:40] <jussi01> Hrm, who is responsible for packaging launchpadlib?
[11:49] <jussi01> hrm... looks like its james_w ...
[11:49] <jussi01> james_w: you around atm?
[11:50]  * jussi01 assumes not, its probably a little early. in any case, james_w could you please ping me when you wake up?
[11:55] <adeuring> didrocks: I can see your canonical email address on your LP page. What exactly is your problem?
[11:58] <didrocks> adeuring: it's just not linked with my lp account (you can't click on my name and head to my LP page)
[11:59] <adeuring> didrocks: sorry, on which page(s) do you miss the click possibility?
[12:01] <didrocks> adeuring: if you head to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session, you can, for instance, click on "Mario Limonciello"'s name at commit 3655 for instance
[12:01] <didrocks> but you can't on mine next to commit 3656
[12:01] <didrocks> is that more clear?
[12:04] <adeuring> didrocks: ah, thanks, now I understand! that something for the code hosting guys... rockstar: ^^^
[12:06] <didrocks> adeuring: sorry for not being clear enough at first glance :)
[12:06] <adeuring> didrocks: np -- I'm sometimes a bit slow...
[12:28] <wgrant> didrocks: The Code guys are hopefully all asleep by now, but try waiting a day or two.
[12:28] <wgrant> didrocks: Revisions are linked to new email addresses only daily.
[12:28] <persia> Does that happen retroactively as well?
[12:28] <wgrant> Yes.
[12:29] <didrocks> wgrant: ok, I'll wait over the week-end so, and will see. Thanks :)
[12:29] <persia> Nifty trick that.
[16:13] <zekopeko_> hi
[16:13] <zekopeko_> is there a bug about launchpad and having your team members displayed in the assign dialog?
[16:14] <zekopeko_> i don't see why i need to search when in 95% of the cases i want to assign my own team members
[16:18] <idnar> if you're in several teams that could be quite a long list
[16:18] <persia> zekopeko_: For some people it's harder to make that choice.  For instance, I'm on a lot of different teams, so it's not clear in what capacity I'm interacting with LP.
[16:35] <zekopeko_> persia, but in great majority of cases the project == team
[16:35] <zekopeko_> i'm not saying remove the search
[16:35] <zekopeko_> but give me the last 10 people that i assigned to bugs from this project
[16:36] <zekopeko_> or if it's my first time give me 10 people from the team that is related to the project
[16:52] <adeuring> zekopeko_: I think you make a good and valid point. While persia and idnar are right that it is sometimes difficult to figure out the right team, an improved person selection dialog would often be really nice. For example, we could store the 5 or 10 most recently selected persons in a cookie. Fancy to file a bug about it?
[16:53] <zekopeko_> yup
[16:53] <zekopeko_> just give me a good title
[16:53]  * zekopeko_ sucks at bug titles
[16:53] <idnar> fwiw, I like that idea too
[16:55] <adeuring> zekopeko_: I'm not really better in finding useful bug titles ;) Anyway, what about "selecting persons as bug asignees is cumbersome"
[16:55] <zekopeko_> cool
[16:56] <geser> for subscriptions please too as I usually only subscribe a few different teams
[16:57]  * adeuring had exactly the pleasure to assign the same people again and again the last days.
[16:57] <adeuring> geser: yeah, I think if we work on the person selection dialog, it will affect all dialogs at once.
[17:01] <zekopeko_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/508005
[17:01] <zekopeko_> any suggestions?
[17:04] <adeuring> zekopeko_: sounds good
[17:12] <maxb> I'd like it if it didn't bother to search if you actually typed a full team name including the ~ into the box
[17:13] <cody-somerville> or for projects if you enter in the actual codename of a project
[17:13] <cody-somerville> (or atleast shows that project first)
[17:17] <adeuring> maxb, cody-somerville: add your suggestions to the bug filed by zekopeko_ ;)
[17:18] <maxb> We probably shouldn't conflate it
[17:18] <maxb> Actually, reading zekopeko_'s bug, I strenuously disagree
[17:19] <maxb> We don't want inexperienced users to assign bugs, and this seems to be making that a little too easy
[17:20] <zekopeko_> maxb, allow teams to lock that part from editing by non-members?
[17:20] <zekopeko_> and just because noobs MIGHT assign someone doesn't mean we shouldn't implement it
[17:21] <zekopeko_> but even if a noob assigns someone its at least easier for you to change it ;)
[18:10] <Flare183> What does this error mean and how can I fix it? bzr: ERROR: xmlrpc protocol error connecting to https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: 401 Unauthorized
[18:11] <mars> Flare183, what were you trying to do when you saw that error?
[18:12] <Flare183> mars: I was trying to register a new bzr branch via the terminal
[18:12] <sfears> is launchpad the best place to report bugs?
[18:13] <mars> Flare183, just looking at the bzr help docs.  Maybe you are not logged in using bzr, or it does not have your keys.
[18:13] <Flare183> hm ok
[18:13] <mars> Flare183, have you successfully pushed a branch before?
[18:13] <Flare183> mars: Yes, many times
[18:14] <mars> sfears, that is a pretty vague question :)  What kind of bugs are you reporting?
[18:15] <mars> Flare183, what was the bzr command you used?
[18:15] <mars> bzr push lp:~... ?
[18:15] <Flare183> bzr register-branch
[18:16] <Flare183> I just pushed up a revision to a different branch and it worked perfectly so I know something works
[18:16] <sfears> using file/add media in banshee the program terminates
[18:16] <mars> Flare183, ok, I'll defer to someone else on that one.  beuno, ^ ?
[18:16] <mars> Flare183, believe it or not, I have never used the register-branch command, so I am at a loss :)
[18:17] <Flare183> I understand. Its ok :)
[18:17] <beuno> I haven't either...
[18:17] <Flare183> :S
[18:17] <mars> Flare183, maybe they would know over in #bzr ?
[18:17] <Flare183> Yeah, let me try taht
[18:17] <Flare183> that*
[18:19] <mars> sfears, yes, but there is an easier way: does Banshee have a "Report a Problem" menu item under the Help menu?
[18:20] <sfears> i just found that.. i'm checking that now mars
[18:20] <mars> sfears, also, you may want to check here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/banshee
[18:21] <sfears> will check the web site.. there's no "report a problem" in banshee
[18:21] <mars> beuno, on that banshee bugs page, the "Report a bug" link doesn't stand out, eh?  It just shows up as yet more red text, and worse, it is in the banner blindness area :(
[18:23] <sfears> i see the report a bug on the web pages.. i meant that banshee doesn't have "report a bug" in the help menu
[18:24] <mars> sfears, yep, I understand.  I was just pointing out the poor link colour to our user experience expert
[18:43] <blueyed> "Internal server error" at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blueyed/b2evolution/dev/files
[18:46] <mars> beuno, you know loggerhead well.  ^ is that normal? :)
[18:47] <beuno> mars, no, it's hung and we need a LOSA to restart
[18:47] <mars> Chex, ^ ?
[18:51] <Chex> beuno: mars: on it now
[18:51] <beuno> thanks Chex
[18:51] <mars> thanks Chex. blueyed ^
[18:53] <blueyed> thanks for the notification. Why is that not monitored correctly?
[18:54] <blueyed> After all, I need to use the web gui now, since bzr itself runs out of memory when checking out.. :/
[18:54] <blueyed> please ping me, when this is fixed.
[18:55] <blueyed> Chex: ^
[18:55] <Chex> beuno: mars: blueyed: ok, it should be back now
[18:55] <blueyed> yes, thanks.
[18:55] <mars> Chex, yep, works for me
[18:55] <blueyed> Chex: please setup monitoring for it!
[18:55] <Chex> that was an odd one, our nagios check showed it as  running
[18:56] <blueyed> then fix it :)
[18:56] <Chex> and it was responding to some requests...
[18:56] <mars> Chex, resource exhaustion leading to a trickling request throughput?
[18:56] <Chex> Ill make a note of that in the incident log.
[18:56] <beuno> Chex, I think it got updated recently, so it may be running a patch we're trying out
[19:46] <mnft> Hi Barry, are you listening?
[19:46] <barry> mnft: loud and clear
[19:46] <mnft> Andreas, from Berlin
[19:46] <barry> mnft: hi!  how's it going?
[19:47] <mnft> fine, thanks, and you? Got your mails python-mode
[19:47] <frangor> hi
[19:48] <barry> doing good.  yep, i saw there were three branches that were waiting for review or merge, so i just wanted to comment on them to see if we could move them along
[19:49] <mnft> last time it was fine with hs from mikail, btw dropped all my own stuff, so if you agree, starting again with hs on top of yours
[19:50] <barry> mnft: sorry, can you provide more context?  which branch are you talking about?
[19:51] <mnft> hs means hide-show
[19:51] <mnft> well, didn't start yet. just wanted to leave you a message saying i'm on it
[19:53] <barry> ah cool, i don't use hide-show :)  sounds great, thanks!
[19:55] <mnft> hide-show is much more advanced than outline IMHO, as its not restricted to the end of line
[19:56] <mnft> ok, I'll leave that chat. have a nice day, bye
[19:56] <barry> cool, you too
[20:14] <sinzui> edakiri: hi
[20:15] <edakiri> Hi, about the recently created and disabled project named 'gpl', for a GPLv3 Licenced library,
[20:15] <edakiri> Hi.  here is user kiri on LaunchPad.  Yes, I did and do wish to make the project with name gpl.  If you check in Branches, you will see that there is code, which I marked as Mature.  It was deliberate that I made an open team maintainer of the project in order to promote 'drive by contribution'.  I had just logged on to LaunchPad to write some short BluePrints.
[20:16] <sinzui> edakiri: maybe the name needs to change. Why would any want to contribute to your project?
[20:17] <edakiri> I think I don't understand the question.  Rephrase with new aspect?
[20:17] <edakiri> aspect --> variation on perspective
[20:18] <sinzui> edakiri: The name is what implies this project is for yourself, not the community. The project was named fnord with a description of "prime numbers", I would have approved it
[20:19] <sinzui> edakiri: Every user has a private place to keep code. Projects are pubic for users to contribute to, to translate, to create packages from...
[20:21] <sinzui> edakiri: the gpl team also has a +junk namespace to share code between team members
[20:21] <edakiri> I have no idea of why a project named 'gpl' would make the impression it is for 'myself'.  In fact, I don't understand how releasing code under GPL3 license and publishing it and making it writeable to by any willing participants could yield the impression of being 'for myself'.  In any case, that is not so.  I am seeking participation.  Otherwise I would not have: published it, made it writable to by an open team; written a description that w
[20:22] <sinzui> edakiri: I reactivated https://launchpad.net/gpl so that we can look at it together
[20:24] <sinzui> The title "GPL 3 Licensed Code" does not look like a legitimate project. It does not appear to have a focus. What will your project produce?
[20:27] <edakiri> A library of GPL version 3 or licensed code in C++.   I have my own ideas for the future of it, for which I was going to write BluePrints, but I do not wish to restrict it to my own design, but rather hope to gather many small contributions in a SO library.
[20:28] <sinzui> edakiri: The team (a group of people) has this description "Content Licensed under GPL3 and Later.", which is do not understand because teams are communication/ACL devices. They are not a representation of code that can have a license.
[20:28] <edakiri> Immediately, it has the code for finding primes and factors, and likely soon for an especially fast log2 calculation.
[20:29] <maxb> edakiri: I'm just another Launchpad user, but perhaps a 3rd party viewpoint can help unblock this discussion: Why do you think naming your library after the licence it is under is a sensible thing to do?
[20:30] <maxb> A project's name is vital part of people understanding what it is. To write a prime factoring library and to name it "General Public Licence" is just.... hugely confusing.
[20:31] <sinzui> edakiri: I think you will attract more contributors if you can fins and name that explains goals or encapulates an idea the license and language was already on the page, and that information is not remarkable when there are 20,000 like it
[20:32] <edakiri> Imagine a person who works full time not on a FLOSS project but has some code which is suitable for reuse in a library, but is not worth doing individual packaging for.  I wish to integrate that persons contributions.  If there were 20000 like it, I would not have created it. Or if there are then, point me to it, because I've looked for it and not found it.
[20:33] <ScottK> Then name is Library of GPL LIbraries, not GPL
[20:33] <ScottK> is/it
[20:33] <edakiri> That would be a good full name, ScottK
[20:34] <edakiri> The full name is presently, "GPL 3  Licensed Code", but I am not set on that.
[20:34] <edakiri> "GPL3 licensed library(s)", perhaps better.
[20:35] <ScottK> Collection of ....
[20:35] <sinzui> edakiri: That is an excellent background point. I approved your project. I think your project will be successful with a name and description that people can search for and find
[20:35] <edakiri> Presently, it is all C++, but I hope to get bindings for other languages.
[20:37] <maxb> edakiri: Is there to be no common theme connecting the bits of code in this project? Why are you lumping them all into one project rather than having separate projects?
[20:37] <edakiri> ScottK: I imagine keeping it a single library.
[20:38] <edakiri> maxb: reduced overhead in publishing, packaging.
[20:40] <maxb> Leads to increased overhead and confusion for developers and consumers
[20:41] <edakiri> I guess you don't like "boost"?
[20:41] <maxb> That is, at least, somewhat modular
[20:41] <edakiri> maxb: you might be right, but it is certainly far from certain for me.
[20:42] <edakiri> right now it is too small to warrant modularity.
[20:42] <edakiri> I would be glad if some day it becomes so large.
[20:46] <ScottK> boost would be OK if it had better API stability.
[20:59] <A4Tech> All greetings. Question: How long to wait until the launchpad compile the package after uploading sources, and where i can see the status or turn on the compilation. And should there come a letter if something goes wrong
[21:00] <maxb> A4Tech: By 5 minutes after uploading, you should be able to see information and progress in the pages for your PPA
[21:01] <A4Tech> in my PPA no changes
[21:04] <maxb> Check your email for a rejection notice.
[21:05] <maxb> Check your .changes file to be absolutely sure it is correctly gpg-signed with a key known to launchpad, or Launchpad won't know who to send a rejection notice to
[21:05] <A4Tech> maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357246/
[21:07] <maxb> A4Tech: You are launchpad.net/~rmpic30 ?
[21:07] <A4Tech> maxb: yes
[21:08] <maxb> The key ID in your pastebin does not match the key ID on your launchpad profile
[21:08] <A4Tech> gm
[21:08] <A4Tech> o_O
[21:31] <A4Tech> maxb: Unable to find distroseries: unstable; what is it mean?
[21:31] <maxb> It means ubuntu has no such series called "unstable"
[21:32] <maxb> Which ubuntu series did you actually want it built in?
[21:32] <A4Tech> karmic
[21:33] <A4Tech> unstable => karmic? :)
[21:33] <maxb> Then you should say so in the changelog
[21:33] <A4Tech> ok
[21:58] <edakiri> ScottK: I retract what I said about a single library.  I really wanted to keep it to a single or few 'build systems'.  I was ruminating about how well the linker could handle 1 shared library per function or object type.
[22:54] <james_w> jussi01: hi
[22:54] <james_w> jussi01: email may be be best to contact me, as I am out of timezone right no
[22:54] <james_w> w
[23:13] <jussi01> james_w: all sorted now, thanks