[00:00] going for a.u.c [00:00] hopefully there were late a2 landings [00:00] ok apt-get install -f fremoves two things that fix it hopefuly [00:01] compiz-wrapper and libmetacity0 gone [00:09] ccheney: ok. so hte hidden thing [00:09] someone said we included stuff from old compiler or toolchain for arm last cycle, what was that? [00:09] ccheney: ? [00:09] is that gone? [00:13] micahg: hi whats the status on tbird 3? [00:13] same, still need to add the targetted bugs and test [00:14] been finishing something for work [00:15] ok. [00:15] asac: are we in a rush? [00:15] are you doing the package rename? [00:15] yes [00:16] that's done, jsut needs to be tested [00:16] well. i think we should get this up. if you push your branch i can finish that [00:16] or rather [00:16] push it somewhere [00:16] i can review [00:16] k, well, it's thunderbird [00:16] not thunderbird-3.0 [00:16] I migrated it in [00:16] so its up? [00:16] not yet [00:16] I'll try to finish tonight... [00:16] and push up for review [00:17] ok. but dont refrain from pushing to the branch because its not ready [00:17] its ready [00:17] err the branch is dead otherwise [00:17] k [00:17] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.dev ? [00:17] yep [00:17] hmm [00:17] oh [00:17] thats not existing [00:17] wait [00:18] I think I moved it [00:18] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.head [00:18] yep [00:18] kk [00:18] ok, so I should just push up once I confirm it works? [00:18] yes [00:18] k [00:18] well push now [00:18] i can take a look already [00:18] ok [00:18] ;) [00:19] probably helps me to understand how much work it is ;) [00:21] asac: pushed [00:22] I still have to clean up the changelog as well [00:22] cleanup? generate? [00:22] thats ok [00:22] no, stuff's in there [00:22] i can check the bzr commits [00:22] it just needs to be cleaned [00:31] asac: BTW, we have 2 langpack bugs in lucid [00:31] actually one is Lucid/Karmic [00:34] which one is in karmic? [00:34] tbird langpacks? [00:34] no, apparently, the FR langpack is still brokenb [00:34] for firefox [00:34] ? [00:34] fr? [00:34] yep [00:34] what symptoms? [00:35] same as before, entities [00:36] i dont know about thta [00:36] ;) [00:36] whats the bug number? [00:36] entities can be everything [00:36] but what i dont believe that fr can be badly broken. [00:36] well there's at least one [00:37] bug 472327 [00:37] Launchpad bug 472327 in langpack-o-matic "Firefox Language Packs not updated in final round for language-pack-ast" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/472327 [00:37] i would have received direct bugging ... [00:37] idr if fr is broken in karmic [00:37] thats not fr ;) [00:37] ok [00:37] lucid is normal to be broken [00:37] we have devmode again. someone needs to fix the po2xpi transformer [00:38] hmm. thought ast was whitelisted [00:38] someone just reported a broken fr: bug 507404, but I don't know if it's the langpack [00:38] Launchpad bug 507404 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox 3.5.7 not localized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507404 [00:38] maybe a bug [00:38] then there's bug 502932 [00:38] Launchpad bug 502932 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox 3 Langpacks in Lucid" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502932 === SuBmUnDo_ is now known as SUBMuNdO__ === SUBMuNdO__ is now known as SuBmUNDo`OuTzZ === SuBmUNDo`OuTzZ is now known as SUBMuNdO__ [01:14] hey all, how can i upgrade to thunderbird 3 on karmic 9.10 ? [01:14] im here https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/ but not sure how to start [01:15] Bashar: that's a daily build [01:15] it will install thunderbird 3.0 side by side with 2.0 [01:15] there's no official upgrade yet [01:15] i'm having serious problem since i moved from 8.10 to 9.10 now my 2.0 thunderbird can't stay online for more than 5 minutes, it will segfault [01:16] Bashar: try with a clean profile [01:16] i've been suffering for the past week without a solution [01:16] one of your extensions might be causing it [01:16] but even on -safe-mode its segfaulting [01:16] try thunderbird -ProfileManager [01:17] i have mor ethan 20GB worth of data can't start clean profile [01:17] Bashar: do you have lightning installed? [01:17] yes [01:18] Bashar: from ubuntu or addons.mozilla.org? [01:18] i removed tunderbird and reinstalled it without lightning same issue [01:18] from ubuntu [01:18] hmmm [01:18] can you file an apport bug? [01:19] it doesn;t work automatically always timeout at the end [01:19] i'm trting to upload the file i found at /var/crash/ [01:19] its taking forever to upload it [01:19] ah [01:19] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [01:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/500321 [01:19] Ubuntu bug 500321 in thunderbird "Thunderbird segfaults, gdb says "file format not recognised"" [Undecided,Invalid] [01:20] you were the one who asked about glib... [01:20] yes thinking its from it [01:20] i forced version 2.22 still same issue [01:20] so it clearly not glib issue [01:20] went to 2.22 uninstalled TB, reinstalled same issue [01:21] that's probably not causing it [01:21] yeah seems not [01:21] I ran TB2 under karmic for more than a month with no issues [01:21] my colleague does too no issues === SUBMuNdO__ is now known as SuBmUNDo`OuTzZ [01:21] well, try a new profile to see if it crashes [01:21] the difference i did is i tried to move to TB3 then tons of issues happened (running from the profile folder) [01:21] or have you tried disabling all the extensions? [01:22] so i went back to ubuntu's install using the same profile [01:22] and it seems this is what caused it [01:22] something related to v3 is saved somewhere in the file or so [01:23] yeha, you shouldn't use the same profile for both [01:23] Anyone know how to allocate an nsAString from a plugin? I tried nsEmbedString, but it requires external symbols such as NS_StringContainerInit. I'm not sure if I need to use that and link to some lib or use something else? [01:24] there are instructions on the PPA page how to add it, but you should be aware that it's dailies [01:24] i *think* i didn't because i did a copy first, but i'm assuming i did a mistake and worked on the not copied version [01:24] so if i download linux version 3 tarball from mozilla website thats stable version? better than the dailies ? [01:25] well, I have the release version built in my beta PPA, but it's still called shredder [01:25] what does shredder mean? [01:25] Bashar: https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-beta [01:25] shredder is the codename [01:26] please excuse my experience, whats the difference between this one and the one from mozilla's tarball ? [01:26] Bashar: functionally, nothing, our version uses Ubuntu's libraries where possible [01:27] and is managed in the apt repository [01:28] Bashar: I'll tell you how to get a gdb backtrace... [01:29] ok [01:29] here's the path to the binary /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird [01:29] i started newer profile and added one of my file [01:29] yes [01:29] i found it [01:31] if you can attach a full gdb backtrace, that might help [01:32] what/how todo gdb backtrace [01:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [01:45] its surely a profile issue [01:45] the newly created profile for my email and another account still up and running [01:45] k [01:45] this is a major issue now [01:46] how d o i copy mail emails, mailboxes, passes, settings without copying the crashed thing :( [01:46] it should be in the Mail profile in the profile [01:46] settings idk [02:00] just Mail folder ? [02:00] nothing else ? [02:00] that's where the local mail is [02:01] but smtp/pop/passwods/digital certificate/thunderbird settings, all these will be gone ? [02:01] yes [02:01] ImapMail also has stuff [02:01] prefs.js [02:01] cant afford that [02:01] my entire business relay on email [02:02] well, you can try the tb3 which makes a copy [02:02] from my ppa [02:02] and create new profile and point it to the same folder ? [02:02] Bashar: no, it'll do it for you [02:02] you can see if it works [02:03] otherwise, maybe try the upstream version since that might have been what corrupted it [02:03] as in the profiles aren't necessarily compatible [02:03] whats different between urs and the daily builds ? [02:04] yours is the stable release from mozilla source ? [02:04] they're both from mozilla source [02:04] mine was the release version unbranded [02:04] the daily changes when upstream 3.0 development branch changes [02:09] Bashar: I have to go, any last questions, I'll be back in about 2 hrs or so [02:10] ill add it to apt source and install and see how it goes :) [02:10] thanks for the help [02:10] np, come back if you need anything === asac_ is now known as asac [02:44] starting Shredder gives this error: Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXMLHttpRequest.send] [03:02] never mind seems worked [03:02] thanks [05:30] asac: I'm test building TB3, I'll talk to you in the morning === ripps is now known as ripps|sleep === SuBmUNDo`OuTzZ is now known as GotchA [09:49] morning [09:49] asac: ping [09:49] sorry missed your chat yesterday [09:49] don't have logging turned on for this server [09:52] * mattmac increases his scrollback size [09:53] ehe [11:24] BUGabundo_work, can you block that viagra guy? [11:25] who?? [11:25] http://identi.ca/fta/all 3 out of the last 4 [11:28] can't figure out how to do that with the web interface [11:28] too cluttered [11:28] fta: go to his profile and press block? [11:28] and now, it's in french for me, but i don't understand those translations [11:29] humm [11:29] your timeline is clear! [11:29] whats wrong with it? [11:29] fta: change to english [11:29] lol [11:30] i've flagged his profile for review by admins === BUGabundo_work is now known as BUGabundo_lunch === gandi_ is now known as gandi === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_work === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine [14:09] hi micahg [14:09] hi [14:09] so, TB didn't build [14:09] still same issue? [14:09] no, this was my merged version [14:09] merged [14:09] ? [14:09] ah [14:09] ok [14:09] I forgot the man page apparently [14:09] i know [14:09] micahg: if you have the build tree you can go in there [14:09] change stuff in debian/ [14:09] and do debuild -nc [14:10] to test stuff without a full rebuild [14:10] thats usually the right way to develop stuff in debian/ [14:10] k [14:11] micahg: you deleted the -3.* files and then added the files without -3.0, right? [14:11] if I do 2>&1 | tee on the debuild command will it give me the whole log? [14:11] if you had used bzr mv for that [14:11] yes [14:11] i could have checked the diff easily [14:11] or rather [14:11] no [14:11] ? [14:11] I renamed them [14:11] using bzr mv? [14:11] no [14:11] * micahg didn't know about bzr mv [14:12] right. you should have used that [14:12] now I know for the next merge [14:12] yeah. [14:12] i will probably redo that commit if you don thav etime [14:12] its much easier to review if you missed something etc. [14:12] but maybe i will not ;) [14:12] TBD [14:13] I did this before you showed me about the merge stuff actually [14:13] ok. [14:13] maybe I should go back and do it right [14:13] maybe i will do everything [14:13] but it'll be much later [14:13] right [14:13] i tried it [14:14] i can do it [14:14] and copy your stuff [14:14] will take me 1h [14:14] should I push the rest of the fixes [14:14] sure [14:15] whatever you have ;) [14:18] fta: asac: http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2010/01/forum-fonts.html [14:18] is stacking the updates per file in the changelog ok, or filename after each change? [14:18] like I have 2 updates to debian/control [14:19] can I do * Update 1\r\n* Update 2\r\n - update debian/control? [14:20] BUGabundo_work, so what? [14:21] so nothing [14:21] just leting u know [14:21] dont kill the messenger [14:27] micahg: if its two different changes to the same file you can have two changelog lines [14:27] its fine to have more than one bullet point for one file [14:27] if thats the question [14:27] k [14:27] yes [14:27] also, is debcommit in that situation ok? [14:27] or do I need to show the file [14:28] micahg: well [14:28] you can have [14:28] * this was done [14:28] - update control [14:28] * and this was done [14:28] - update control [14:29] so no need to merge the entries [14:29] so debcommit should just work (TM) [14:29] ah, that's what I was wondering... [14:29] right [14:29] * micahg must have misunderstood [14:29] will uncommit :) [14:29] i guess most likely i mistalked ;) [14:29] too [14:29] asac: also, is the way I did the bug closes ok? [14:30] not sure ;) [14:30] the syntax for contribution markings is a bit different though: [14:30] yep [14:30] I'm fixing that now [14:30] [ Alex Sutter ] [14:30] at least the whitespaces [14:30] does that need a separate commit? [14:30] before and after name [14:31] micahg: i will replay with merge and stuff anyway, so just get it up somehow [14:31] bzr merge and mv ;) [14:31] oh, I didn';'t know we need a spave before the name [14:31] not sure we need, but its the standard and looks ugly if not [14:35] asac: was I supposed to write the man page? [14:36] no [14:36] there was a manpage, wasnt there? [14:36] thats in the old tbird 2 package [14:36] you can resurrect that [14:37] * micahg wondes how he lost that... [14:37] *wonders [14:37] you removed all files from debian/ first [14:37] didnt you? [14:37] no [14:38] was it really in tbird 3 branch? [14:38] I see the file, I must not be installing it properly... [14:38] probably [14:38] hmm [14:38] the file isn't there... [14:38] needs to be in debian/thunderbird.docs [14:39] or even thunderbird.manpages [14:39] yeah, it says thunderbird.1 [14:39] I just can't ifnd the file [14:40] micahg: it wasnt in the 3.0 branch [14:40] heh [14:40] I found it [14:40] so that needs to be kept from the 2.0 branch [14:40] it's generated from sgml [14:40] also in teh past we generated it from sgml [14:40] yeah [14:40] so it might have slipped through [14:41] yep === ripps|sleep is now known as ripps [16:01] crimsun, when mplayer/lucid starts, it now shows a bunch of "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)" what is that? bt as in bluetooth? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:29] asac: sorry, your previous comment scrolled out of my buffer before I saw it [16:29] what version should I use to build Prism? [16:30] the one that we use? 1.9.1? [16:30] try that [16:30] if not go for 1.9.2 [16:31] no I mean which Ubuntu version [16:31] I'm building on top of 1.9.2 btw [16:31] should I build on the very latest greatest Ubuntu or are users of older versions gonna to be missing libraries or something? [16:32] mattmac: build on the lowest ubuntu version you want to support [16:32] otherwise you cannot use it in older versions [16:32] e.g. use hardy [16:32] ok fair enough [16:32] if you want it to have chance to work everywhere [16:32] thanks... hardy sounds good to me [16:32] also use 1.9.1 [16:32] otherwise it wont work on ffox 3.5 [16:32] only 3.6 [16:33] why's that? [16:33] same reason as why you need to build for hardy [16:33] if you biuld for xulrunner 21.9.2 it wont work on 1.9.1 [16:34] even if I ship all the libraries with it? [16:34] all the XULRunner libraries I mean [16:34] that's what I do on other platforms [16:35] yes [16:35] well no [16:35] you cant do that [16:35] you should ship a .xpi or a minimal webapp [16:35] if you try, maybe it works, but we cant help you on that [16:35] ;) [16:36] alright well I just package it like the previous release and we'll see what happens [16:36] 3.6 is supposed to be out soon anyway [16:37] what do you mean by: "package it" ... in .debs? [16:39] it's a bz2 file [16:39] just a zip of the binary directory [16:49] kk === cyphermo1 is now known as cyphermox === micahg1 is now known as micahg [18:24] crimsun, strangely, since today's upgrade, my sound regressed [18:51] asac, metacity? [19:14] i had lastlog in desktop to grab the link ;) [19:14] and thought we talked there [19:15] anyway off === and`_ is now known as and` [20:41] what happened to the old file manager? it is now called PCMan File Manager 0.5.2? [20:41] is this something i installed or new file manager? [20:44] something you did, mine is still nautilus [20:45] fta: ok thanks [21:16] freenode is changing :( [21:19] gnomefreak: to what? [21:20] sevens [21:20] BUGabundo: http://freenode.net/seven-for-hyperion-users.html [21:21] * gnomefreak needs to update my scripts soon [21:55] fta: regressed in what sense? I know about the pacmd poll() issue. [21:57] crimsun, sdl is taking 100% cpu like in karmic (it was fine yesterday) and gives a much slower experience (probably due to syncs) but i hear no gliches (like in karmic) === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [21:58] fta: ah. [21:58] well, I need to back out one commit, so I'll roll another package tonight after chasing the pacmd bug. [22:03] crimsun: is there a way to enable system beep? i removed the blacklist entry and still not happening but on power down system beep works [22:04] gnomefreak: I don't know what you mean by system beep, which is unfortunately pretty ambiguous [22:05] crimsun: the "system beep" the beep/ping from pcskr(or something spelled like it) [22:07] as in the massive libgnome bug? [22:07] pcspkr [22:07] need to run now, back later [22:07] crimsun: not sure. the only one i found is trying to disable it [22:17] * ccheney managed to get all of the easy to copy bits done, now have to determine how to copy the get_type parts [22:18] is up to ~ 2100 lines now === micahg1 is now known as micahg [22:55] * gnomefreak forgot how entertaining bugs can be :) [22:55] lol [23:00] its better than tv. people arguing about should be be open or closed but not arguing so much on the bug itself [23:02] asac: is it possible to make notify-osd work over an app in full screen? [23:04] BUGabundo: see bug 375272 [23:04] Launchpad bug 375272 in ubuntuone-servers "Server software is closed source" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375272