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| uvirtbot | New bug: #507728 in openldap (main) "man page missing for slapo-nssov" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507728 | 00:26 |
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| pting | this is probably totally preference, but where would you guys mount an EBS device in amazon's EC2? a directory in /mnt or a directory in / ? | 01:25 |
| twb | pting: what does FHS 2.3 say? | 01:26 |
| twb | IIRC it says that /media is for removable media, and /mnt is for temporary sysadmin mounts. | 01:26 |
| twb | Personally, I would typically (ab)use /srv/<type of service> or even just /srv, since Debian Policy requires that packages leave that directory alone. | 01:27 |
| pting | twb, i see. thanks. i've never read the FHS docs before.. i'll read through it. thanks. | 01:29 |
| twb | It's only a couple of pages. | 01:29 |
| twb | The wikipedia article is probably easier to read, though | 01:30 |
| pting | cool | 01:30 |
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| pting | how do i apt-get install mysql server without having it prompt for a root password? i'm using puppet to deploy these things and it's failing because of the password prompt | 03:46 |
| twb | pting: pre-seed the answer. | 03:51 |
| pting | twb, thanks. i couldn't seem to figure out the right term to google for | 03:59 |
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| twb | pting: apt-get install installation-guide, read the appendices | 04:00 |
| twb | pting: also debconf-[gs]et-selections | 04:00 |
| pting | twb, awesome, thanks | 04:01 |
| imrazor1 | Anybody here ever get Ubuntu up as a WAP/firewall/router? | 04:12 |
| Elad | I am trying to restart apache and am getting the following error: * Restarting web server apache2 | 04:33 |
| Elad | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 | 04:33 |
| Elad | no listening sockets available, shutting down | 04:33 |
| Elad | Unable to open logs | 04:33 |
| Elad | ...fail! | 04:33 |
| Elad | any ideas? | 04:33 |
| qman__ | Elad, find out what else is bound to 0.0.0.0:80, use netstat or your favorite tool | 04:35 |
| qman__ | because it also erred opening the log file, it's probably another apache process that wasn't started with the init script | 04:36 |
| qman__ | find out what process it is and kill it off | 04:36 |
| Elad | when I do ps aux|grep apache, there are a couple of apache things running, should I kill them off | 04:37 |
| Elad | ? | 04:37 |
| qman__ | if you don't need it running, yes | 04:38 |
| Elad | wow, thanks for the prod | 04:38 |
| qman__ | then try restarting the apache process | 04:38 |
| Elad | I killed them and now it works | 04:38 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #506862 in apache2 (main) "Please merge apache2 2.2.14-5(main) from debian squeeze(main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506862 | 04:55 |
| NDNWebmaster | good evening everyone | 05:02 |
| NDNWebmaster | so I am happy to be building my first ubuntu web server and was wondering if anyone had any pointers | 05:05 |
| NDNWebmaster | im not sure if i should try hosting my own dns or depend on a service like dyndns for that | 05:06 |
| NDNWebmaster | i just finished my server install..i have so far run update and upgrade | 05:06 |
| NDNWebmaster | also during install i let the installer install dns/lamp/openssh/apache2 | 05:07 |
| NDNWebmaster | so no server gurus with any pieces of advice out there? | 05:11 |
| osmosis | NDNWebmaster, what do you want to know? | 05:29 |
| osmosis | NDNWebmaster, general pointers? read docs | 05:30 |
| osmosis | NDNWebmaster, help.ubuntu.com/community is your friend | 05:30 |
| DasEi | NDNWebmaster: crossposting.. , see topic, also | 05:30 |
| osmosis | NDNWebmaster, id proably go with hosted dns | 05:30 |
| twb | !anyone > imrazor1 | 05:30 |
| ubottu | imrazor1, please see my private message | 05:30 |
| imrazor1 | Does anyone know why i get this error when starting hostapd? | 05:33 |
| imrazor1 | Failed to create interface mon.wlan0. | 05:33 |
| imrazor1 | nl80211 driver initialization failed. | 05:33 |
| pradalvr | I need to configure my phh.ini file on Ubuntu | 05:38 |
| pradalvr | php.ini | 05:38 |
| pradalvr | and i don't know how | 05:40 |
| leftyfb | pradalvr: you've already been given the answer in #ubuntu on EFNet even though you actually already know the answer. | 05:44 |
| pradalvr | leftyfb: do you have to .. you were the one who told me to come here and ask | 05:45 |
| pradalvr | go play with ferro | 05:46 |
| leftyfb | for general help with server related issues. Not ones that have already been answered. | 05:46 |
| pradalvr | i didnt ask in here | 05:46 |
| leftyfb | 12:00AM <pradalvr> this is why i need to be here... damn it .. i am getting a Could not save the file /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini. because of permissions | 05:46 |
| leftyfb | 12:00AM <plytro> did you sudo edit it? | 05:46 |
| leftyfb | 12:00AM <leftyfb> pradalvr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 05:46 |
| leftyfb | Jan 15 00:20:17 <pradalvr>i tried to get my cousin to say Sudo and she cried | 05:46 |
| marshall | i've created a folder at /var/svn, and a group called 'devs' and added myself to it. I've changed the group for /var/svn to 'devs' and added write privileges to group on /var/svn. for some reason it says that i dont have permission to create folders in there. any idea why? | 05:52 |
| leftyfb | marshall: did you log out and back in after adding yourself to another group? | 05:54 |
| marshall | leftyfb: oh, thanks | 05:56 |
| pradalvr | strange how men love helping out other men.. oh well, i don't care.. I normally figure this all out on my own anyway | 06:05 |
| ScottK | pradalvr: I find that a remarkably odd comment. | 06:07 |
| pradalvr | not me | 06:07 |
| ScottK | We I've no idea what your gender is. From what was copied from the other channel, I think leftyfb is right, you've had your question answered. | 06:09 |
| pradalvr | do i just add "bind-address = 127.0.0.1" anywhere on the my.cnf? | 06:19 |
| ScottK | I don't know. Sorry. | 06:21 |
| pradalvr | thats what i am talking about... strange | 06:22 |
| pradalvr | will you ever get a girlfriend? doubt it | 06:22 |
| cnp2001 | hi | 06:27 |
| cnp2001 | i have setup dns server on ubuntu 9.04 i need some help in regards with using dydns with the same is this the appropriate place to ask for the same | 06:28 |
| ScottK | pradalvr: You have probably been treated roughly in other places but that kind of unpleasantness is not appropriate here. If you want to go talk to other women about it, I suggest you try the #ubuntu-women channel where they try and encourage women to get involved in Ubuntu. | 06:29 |
| ScottK | Maltreatment elsewhere does not give you the right to speak to me that way. | 06:30 |
| leftyfb | ScottK: she might be actually looking for help, but once she gets going she's a troll | 06:30 |
| ScottK | leftyfb: That's not particularly helpful either. | 06:31 |
| pradalvr | thank you ScottK | 06:34 |
| pradalvr | Btw... wants to jump up and down.. i fixed it | 06:34 |
| ScottK | Congratulations | 06:36 |
| pradalvr | thanks.. i shocked myself | 06:36 |
| pradalvr | all i simply asked in the other channel was... how can i configure the php.ini file using Ubuntu.. here also.. all anyone had to type was gksudo gedit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini in the terminal. things can not be changed by going to the file like in Microsoft.. | 06:40 |
| pradalvr | conversation over .. instead, i decided to give my opinion about creating a game for little girls to learn the Ubuntu command line | 06:41 |
| ScottK | I'm glad you worked it out. | 06:41 |
| ScottK | The answer was also in what was pasted. | 06:41 |
| pradalvr | then i was banned because my idea seemed stupid | 06:42 |
| ScottK | From #ubuntu? | 06:42 |
| pradalvr | no.. i would've had to read threw a bunch of things | 06:42 |
| pradalvr | yes on efnet | 06:43 |
| ScottK | Sometimes the help you get is like that. I'll often give people a hint that will help them learn more than the precise answer for the precise issue. | 06:43 |
| ScottK | I see. | 06:43 |
| ScottK | You might find that idea is precisely on topic in #ubuntu-women. | 06:43 |
| pradalvr | why? | 06:44 |
| pradalvr | because women give birth and father take off | 06:44 |
| pradalvr | father | 06:44 |
| pradalvr | s | 06:44 |
| ScottK | Because the purpose of that project is to work on getting more inovled in Ubuntu. | 06:44 |
| ScottK | I think something like what you are suggesting would fit with that goal. | 06:44 |
| pradalvr | for the women? | 06:45 |
| pradalvr | and not the men | 06:45 |
| ScottK | There are both women and men in there, but the men that are there are supportive of their goals. | 06:45 |
| ScottK | It's mostly women. | 06:45 |
| pradalvr | smart guys | 06:45 |
| pradalvr | they know where to go | 06:45 |
| ScottK | I'd encourage you to visit. | 06:46 |
| pradalvr | are you there | 06:46 |
| ScottK | Yes | 06:46 |
| pradalvr | am i a troll ScottK | 06:50 |
| ScottK | pradalvr: You were more hostile than we like here when you arrived, but I would not go that far. | 06:52 |
| ScottK | Good night. | 06:52 |
| gnac | I still can't seem to get grub to install (9.10). I'm getting an error that "The 'grub' package failed to install into /target/." | 06:52 |
| gnac | I tried grub 2 and legacy grub. | 06:52 |
| pradalvr | thankyou.. probably after being banned | 06:52 |
| gnac | twb: I don't have any LVM or raid in use. | 06:52 |
| twb | gnac: context, please | 06:52 |
| gnac | two lines up: 22:52:09 < gnac> I still cant seem to get grub to install (9.10). ... | 06:53 |
| twb | gnac: why are you telling me? | 06:53 |
| gnac | I asked this question last night, and you responded, but by that time I had called it a night. | 06:54 |
| gnac | 23:40:47 #ubuntu-server: < twb> gnac: one easy way would be if you confused its module auto-detection by placing /boot on LVM on RAID | 06:54 |
| twb | Ah. | 06:55 |
| twb | gnac: is the installer still running? | 06:55 |
| twb | gnac: if so, switch to vt2 and copy the contents of /proc/mounts somewhere, then pastebin it. | 06:55 |
| gnac | k one sec. | 06:56 |
| gnac | http://pastebin.com/d6f4e4aa7 | 06:57 |
| gnac | fwiw, I found option in the advanced installer to let me do most of the install over ssh. I have two ssh sessions open to the server, one the installer, one a simple shell | 06:58 |
| gnac | oh, I guess I take that back about the raid (on /) but I tried it last night with a monolithic non-lvm partitioning scheme and had the same problem. | 07:00 |
| twb | gnac: you're using ext4. Does grub support that? | 07:00 |
| gnac | twb: yep, all of my other sabayon and gentoo systems are using /ext4 for /boot and /. It didn't use to, but it has for a little while now. | 07:04 |
| twb | gnac: are they running the same version of grub? | 07:05 |
| gnac | what question does 9.10 use? FWIW, when I did my test run last night, I let ubuntu pick the partitioning etc and it defaults to one partition on / with ext4 | 07:07 |
| gnac | I'm using grub-0.97 here. I tried the "legacy" (non grub 2) install as well. both grub and grub 2 failed. | 07:09 |
| gnac | I could always continue without a boot loader, boot into a gentoo live cd, then install grub into the MBR from the live cd, at least to see if it works. | 07:12 |
| twb | gnac: grub 0.97 *is* grub legacy | 07:14 |
| twb | I'd be very surprised if grub legacy supports ext4 at all | 07:15 |
| gnac | I'm speaking to you from a computer with grub legacy and ext4 on /boot | 07:17 |
| twb | gnac: does tune2fs -l report that ext4 features are actually in use on that /boot? | 07:17 |
| twb | Also, #grub can help with grub-2 | 07:18 |
| gnac | twb: So I should clarify, the computer I'm typing on, is a sabayon install with grub 0.97 and ext4. | 07:18 |
| gnac | the ubuntu-server installer failed on both grub-2 and grub install. | 07:18 |
| gnac | Which version of legacy grub does ubuntu server use? | 07:18 |
| twb | http://packages.ubuntu.com/grub-legacy | 07:19 |
| gnac | IIRC, my kubuntu netbook also uses grub and ext4 | 07:19 |
| twb | http://packages.ubuntu.com/grub, maybe | 07:19 |
| gnac | karmic uses .97 as well | 07:20 |
| gnac | bah, now the installer is asking me to insert the cd again. I never took it out. I unmounted it and remounted it, but I cant get out of this screen. i.e. neither <continue> or <go back> works. | 07:24 |
| gnac | Perhaps I'll try again tomorrow . | 07:24 |
| alkisg | How can I do what "language-selector" does from the command line? I.e., what are the needed packages for complete support for some language? | 08:02 |
| alkisg | E.g. sudo apt-get install language-pack-el language-pack-gnome-el language-pack-kde-el language-support-el openoffice.org-l10n-el | 08:02 |
| alkisg | (or is that kde-l10n-el instead?) Anything missing there? | 08:02 |
| twb | Noble: the recommended solution is KVM | 08:16 |
| twb | Noble: but there are lots of virtualization techniques, and most would work | 08:16 |
| Noble | Say I need max 3 servers | 08:19 |
| Noble | Could I use virtualbox | 08:19 |
| Noble | or is that a bad idea? | 08:19 |
| twb | You could use virtualbox, yes. | 08:21 |
| twb | However, Ubuntu recommends KVM. | 08:21 |
| Noble | I see. Follow me on this. | 08:21 |
| Noble | The host is also gonna be a workstation, for echonomical reasons. | 08:22 |
| Noble | Then, would virtualbox, or KVM be the best? | 08:22 |
| Noble | Virtualbox is not recommended because of the non GPL extensions, or is there something else? | 08:22 |
| twb | Well, KVM is also endorsed by Linux and (via libvirt) Red Hat. | 08:24 |
| twb | I personally don't approve of virtualbox because the *existence* of proprietary components indicates the project isn't committed to being a good FOSS citizen. | 08:24 |
| twb | It also seems oriented toward deployment on single-user-laptop rather than the headless multi-user servers I care about. | 08:25 |
| Noble | Do you know if its possible to import virtual machines between for instance KVM and Virtualbox? | 08:26 |
| Noble | twb, i see | 08:26 |
| simplexio | vbox is probably best when you want get virtual desktop and features needed in that | 08:29 |
| simplexio | when talkin about virtualizationfor server quests, then there is Xen which has lost lately to kvm | 08:30 |
| Noble | how will it work to connect to a deamon running on a virtual machine? | 08:31 |
| Noble | I'm planning to move the MS SBS 2008 install to a virtual machine | 08:32 |
| Noble | Is that an issue? | 08:32 |
| jiboumans | good morning folks | 08:39 |
| twb | Noble: dunno, I don't do Microsoft. | 08:45 |
| twb | Neither KVM nor (I think) Virtualbox will care what kind of OS is being virtualized. | 08:45 |
| twb | Xen, VMWare Server and OpenVZ *do* care, but I don't know if they support Microsoft products. | 08:46 |
| da65 | I noticed on my server that the Bind dns server is not running and it will not start, any ideas? | 08:46 |
| twb | Of course, if your SBS server is exporting its display over RDP, you don't *need* to ever display its "local" screen, so KVM would be perfectly adequate | 08:47 |
| da65 | having probs with websites resolving correctly so I guess this the problem | 08:47 |
| twb | da65: did you look at the log files? Did you turn on debugging? | 08:47 |
| da65 | no and not sure will take a look | 08:48 |
| da65 | its a fresh insall | 08:48 |
| da65 | install even | 08:48 |
| twb | da65: that would depend on whether resolv.conf goes through your local bind service. | 08:48 |
| twb | da65: bind is not installed on a fresh install | 08:48 |
| da65 | oh, it seems to be there but will not start, from Plesk control panel | 08:49 |
| twb | da65: then whatever plesk gives you is not standard | 08:49 |
| da65 | is there a command to see if it is installed | 08:50 |
| simplexio | isnt vbox rdp feature in binary only version? | 08:50 |
| twb | simplexio: if the virtualized server exports RDP, then vbox wouldn't need to do anything | 08:50 |
| twb | Other than bridging/NATting the network, that is | 08:51 |
| twb | simplexio: I suspect you're confusing that with vbox providing its own RDP service to the virtual machine's physical keyboard/video/mouse | 08:51 |
| twb | s/physical/emulated/ | 08:52 |
| twb | da65: there is. | 08:52 |
| simplexio | yeah. i know | 08:53 |
| simplexio | umm.. well ( ihavent used) but vbox has "own" rdp server i think, attleast there is conf in GUI, then like we all kno you can run anything what you want in quest. so that what i meant | 08:54 |
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| twb | Contrariwise, qemu (kvm) has the ability to display the local screen/keyboard using curses, stdio or on new ptys | 09:10 |
| twb | For me, that is FAR FAR better than rasterizing the 80x25 head that I'm talking to. | 09:11 |
| twb | (Of course, you have to fight with gfxboot and grub-pc, but this is not too difficult.) | 09:11 |
| Birmaan | morning | 09:15 |
| soren | ttx: So... A name for the team that will own the regression test build? ubuntu-server-qa? | 09:25 |
| ttx | ah | 09:25 |
| ttx | soren: yes, that sounds perfect. | 09:27 |
| * ttx feels uncreative today | 09:27 | |
| soren | ttx: Hm.. I want to make it open so as many people as possible can "subscribe" to the build failure e-mails from the ppa.. | 09:30 |
| soren | ..but membership of the team (currently) implies ability to upload to the ppa. | 09:30 |
| ttx | hm hm | 09:31 |
| ttx | so you can't get the PPA email without the ability to break everything ? | 09:31 |
| soren | While I don't expect anyone to add this ppa to their sources.list, it still seems undesirable. | 09:31 |
| soren | Perhaps I'm making a big deal out of nothing. The possible impact is miniscule, I suppose. | 09:31 |
| soren | ttx: Hmm... Well.. Heh. | 09:32 |
| soren | ttx: I /could/ change the contact e-mail for the user in the team to that of the ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list, for instance. | 09:32 |
| ttx | would there be a way to add some gateway as a member ? | 09:32 |
| ttx | right | 09:33 |
| soren | AFAICT, the criteria for receiving the e-mails and for being able to upload are identical. | 09:33 |
| soren | ...except if we do the mailing list trick. | 09:33 |
| ttx | I suggest we do. | 09:33 |
| soren | Hm, hm.. | 09:35 |
| soren | There's still an attack vector if someone really wanted to mess with things. | 09:35 |
| soren | Oh, no, there's not. | 09:35 |
| soren | my bad. | 09:35 |
| soren | Well, then we don't even need the team. | 09:35 |
| da65 | all sorted, thanks. | 09:36 |
| soren | ttx: Darn it. | 09:41 |
| soren | This is always so tricky. | 09:41 |
| soren | ttx: Only one user or team can have a particular e-mail set in Launchpad. ubuntu-server already has ubuntu-server-bugs as its contact e-mail, so ubuntu-server-qa can't as well. | 09:41 |
| ttx | soren: and I'm sure it's a feature, not a coincidence :) | 09:42 |
| soren | Screw it, I'll just let people who care join ubuntu-server-qa. | 09:43 |
| soren | ttx: Yeah :) | 09:43 |
| soren | ttx: Done. https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-qa open for business. | 09:46 |
| soren | ttx: Should I just force-add canonical-server? | 09:47 |
| ttx | I want a funny badge. | 09:47 |
| ttx | that makes sense. | 09:47 |
| soren | Of course you do. | 09:47 |
| soren | Invitation sent. | 09:48 |
| soren | ttx: Only you and jiboumans can accept it these days. | 09:48 |
| ttx | looking | 09:49 |
| * jiboumans pushes ttx under the bus^W^W^W^Wvolunteers ttx | 09:49 | |
| ttx | done | 09:49 |
| soren | Neat. | 09:50 |
| * soren triggers an upload. | 09:50 | |
| maxagaz | hi, after changing /boot/grub/menu.lst, do i need to restart grub ? | 09:54 |
| soren | maxagaz: "restart grub" makes very little sense. grub is the bootloader. Anything you change in its configuration will only affect the boot process. | 09:55 |
| maxagaz | soren, ok, so i don't need to reload anything after making change in this this file, right ? | 09:56 |
| soren | maxagaz: You need to reboot to see the changes in effect (such is the nature of bootloaders), but otherwise, no. | 09:56 |
| maxagaz | soren, thanks | 09:57 |
| soren | maxagaz: Sure. | 09:57 |
| * soren likes it when PPA buildds aren't congested | 09:59 | |
| soren | ttx: http://people.canonical.com/~soren/autotest-results/default/results.html | 10:04 |
| * soren runs a larger test battery | 10:04 | |
| ttx | cool. | 10:06 |
| * soren glances at uvirtbot` | 10:06 | |
| da65 | is there a ubuntu-server security alert mail list I can join, I just unsubscribed from Debian one? | 10:07 |
| da65 | suprising how busy the Deb one was actually | 10:08 |
| jiboumans | soren++ sweet | 10:09 |
| da65 | anyone running Boinc here? | 10:15 |
| soren | jiboumans: Making all those step files was rather tedious, but the result is pretty slick :) | 10:15 |
| ulaas | hi, member:what is the best way to assign eth0 name to any adapter i choose on 9.10 | 10:28 |
| soren | ulaas: Look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 10:43 |
| soren | ulaas: If it's not immediately obvious what to do, just ask again. | 10:43 |
| ulaas | soren: is it the recommended way, or a hack only? | 10:44 |
| soren | ulaas: It's /the/ way. | 10:44 |
| soren | That is the authoritative definition of the device<->name mapping. | 10:45 |
| ulaas | thanks | 10:45 |
| soren | sure. | 10:45 |
| soren | ttx: Yay, first build failures trickling in. | 10:47 |
| soren | fsvo "yay". | 10:47 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | I want to put this controller card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124023 in an old machine, Pentium III, running hardy. Will I have problems getting ubuntu to "recognize" the card? | 10:53 |
| soren | Italian_Plumber1: Any particular reason you want that card? | 11:02 |
| soren | Italian_Plumber1: If it's because it does "RAID", don't bother. | 11:02 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | I'm looking for a card under 25, mainly. | 11:03 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: prbly not, but check by the chipset /compare to known working models | 11:03 |
| soren | Italian_Plumber1: Is it because you've used up the existing connections in the system? | 11:03 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | raid would be nice but just an added bonus really. I'm only getting one HD to go with it. | 11:03 |
| soren | That card doesn't actually do RAID. | 11:04 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | no it's because the existing system has no SATA ports | 11:04 |
| soren | Ok. | 11:04 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | it doesn't do RAID? | 11:04 |
| soren | If it's less than $300, there's no way it actually does RAID. | 11:05 |
| soren | And at $300 it would be a steal. | 11:05 |
| soren | They say they do RAID, but all they really do is provide a BIOSy kind of looking frontend for configuring software raid. | 11:05 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | heh... well if I wanted RAID I'd buy a real NAS, not try to make my own with old crappy equipment | 11:05 |
| soren | ..and let the OS read that information to actually do the raid thing on their behalf. | 11:06 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: if you just want sata, get an adaptor for it | 11:06 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | an adapter isn't a PCI controller card? | 11:06 |
| soren | Hardware that actually does RAID is /expensive/. | 11:06 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | yeah I knwo we have some at work | 11:07 |
| soren | Italian_Plumber1: You know.. At $16 I wouldn't even bother with research. I'd just buy the thing, plug it in, and see if it worked :) | 11:07 |
| soren | If not, it's probably a half decent door stop. | 11:08 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: no, they are cheaper and you can run sata on ide with that, but check size limits of bios for that | 11:08 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | can you point me out an example? | 11:08 |
| DasEi | second | 11:08 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | cause I had no idea that kind of thing existed | 11:09 |
| DasEi | http://tinyurl.com/yb8m3qf | 11:10 |
| DasEi | http://www.rexstone.de/_detail_40947.html ,sorry, missed a line | 11:15 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: ^ | 11:15 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | yeah I would guess there's a bios limit on the machine of way less than 1TB, which is the size drive I wanna put in there. | 11:18 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: so a card will be the better choice, bringing own bios | 11:21 |
| * soren lunches | 11:25 | |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: one last . if you want to boot from it, also make sure that bios is capable of scanning ( least plgnPlay option) | 11:33 |
| Italian_Plumber1 | no I won't be booting from it | 11:42 |
| DasEi | so should be no problem then, for compatability : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport | 11:46 |
| DasEi | Italian_Plumber1: | 11:46 |
| === georg is now known as kwork | ||
| Italian_Plumber | wow. there's only one SATA controller ther. | 12:31 |
| KTL2 | i had a question. while formulating it i solved it. thanks. this is such a helpfull place. | 12:37 |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| uvirtbot | New bug: #507906 in minicom (main) "Please merge minicom 2.4-1(main) from debian squeeze(main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507906 | 13:21 |
| Italian_Plumber | heh... and this will not go in my Abit BH6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116025 | 13:31 |
| Parabola | sup mario | 13:32 |
| Italian_Plumber | what kind of expansion slot IS that? :) | 13:32 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| Italian_Plumber | 'sup, half-oval | 13:32 |
| Parabola | :) | 13:32 |
| Italian_Plumber | ...er... half-ellipse | 13:33 |
| Italian_Plumber | sorry | 13:33 |
| Parabola | its quite alright | 13:33 |
| Parabola | its also a song by TOOL | 13:33 |
| Parabola | so either response is acceptable | 13:33 |
| zul | morning | 13:36 |
| Italian_Plumber | Sorry. Anything after "Nirvana" I've never heard of :) | 13:38 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| acalvo | hi | 13:49 |
| acalvo | which is the default charset for ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10? | 13:49 |
| acalvo | UTF-8? | 13:49 |
| Italian_Plumber | when I run the latest openssl update on my desktop ubuntu, it tells me I need to restart. There is no corresponding notice when upgrading the server. Is this normal? | 14:02 |
| === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew | ||
| * zul shoots amazon in the head | 14:03 | |
| zul | ttx: the amazon ec2 libraries doesnt have a license file | 14:04 |
| BrixSat | hello | 14:04 |
| BrixSat | what should be the permitions of user public_html so the apache and php can create folders inside and read files | 14:05 |
| BrixSat | i need users to upload files to their home and if in public_html apache needs to read the files and also php and it does happens permition denied or error 505 depending on the operation | 14:09 |
| sommer | BrixSat: you can try giving www-data group rwx on the directory | 14:23 |
| BrixSat | sommer with chown? | 14:23 |
| sommer | chgrp is what I usually use | 14:24 |
| BrixSat | but if i do that will the user have access using ftp to write and read fils | 14:25 |
| sommer | BrixSat: sure if the user owns the directory | 14:26 |
| sommer | you can have different owner and group permissions | 14:26 |
| BrixSat | nice :D can you give me a hint on the chgrp | 14:26 |
| sommer | sudo chgrp www-data /home/$user/public_html, or whatever the path is | 14:26 |
| sommer | basically the same as a chown | 14:27 |
| BrixSat | You don't have permission to access /~tiago/ on this server. | 14:28 |
| BrixSat | :/ i have the folder to 604 should it be 755? | 14:28 |
| sommer | BrixSat: you might try 775 | 14:30 |
| sommer | that'd give the owner and group rwx and world rx | 14:31 |
| BrixSat | and if i want to deny world to rx only owner rwx and apache rwx and others none | 14:32 |
| BrixSat | is it 750? | 14:32 |
| sommer | yep, but you want the www-data group to have write so it'd be 770 | 14:32 |
| BrixSat | ok :) | 14:33 |
| BrixSat | 770 wont work | 14:33 |
| BrixSat | i get an error | 14:33 |
| BrixSat | You don't have permission to access /~tiago/ | 14:34 |
| Parabola | do 755 | 14:34 |
| BrixSat | ok working | 14:34 |
| BrixSat | but if i upload a file using ftp i can edit it using apache and php going to see permiton on ftp server | 14:36 |
| BrixSat | nice :D | 14:43 |
| BrixSat | my octal mask in proftp is 022 should i change it also to 755 ? | 14:50 |
| jiboumans | ttx, smoser: use (sprint) ... | 14:56 |
| jiboumans | ttx: bluesprint? | 14:57 |
| BrixSat | no it is not correct i edited /etc/adduser.conf and added the EXTRA_GROUPS= www-data but still not working new user wont be able to view its public_www | 14:57 |
| BrixSat | my mistake a mising permition :p | 14:59 |
| BrixSat | working ok now :d | 14:59 |
| ttx | zul: which libraries ? | 15:03 |
| zul | the php libraries from amazon should I talk to chunger to get amazon to add that? | 15:04 |
| refnumzx | trying to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 during the do-release-upgrade console-setup freezes everything else seems to work except for the items that depend on console-setup. ideas? | 15:19 |
| === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ | ||
| ttx | zul: well, asking them to license their stuff properly can't hurt | 15:38 |
| zul | ttx: k ill bug chunger about it when he wakes up | 15:38 |
| refnumzx | trying to resolve this console-setup issue. ubuntu-minimal depends on it, and it keeps on freezing. | 15:57 |
| === MTeck-engaged is now known as MTecknology | ||
| zul | mathiaz: hey did you know that mario already converted mysql to upstart? | 16:35 |
| mathiaz | zul: I noticed that on the BP whiteboard - that's I know it | 16:36 |
| mathiaz | zul: I haven't seen the upstart job (neither how mario is) | 16:36 |
| zul | it looks sparse but i havent tried to run mysql on lucid yet | 16:37 |
| zul | still running the frigging testsuite | 16:38 |
| genii | refnumzx: Does: locale show LANG and LC_CTYPE as set to something? | 16:38 |
| refnumzx | genii: yupen_us.utf8 | 16:44 |
| soren | ?!? | 16:51 |
| soren | jiboumans: I'm assigned to this: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-puppet-etckeeper-integration | 16:51 |
| soren | jiboumans: Is that intentional? | 16:52 |
| jiboumans | ?!?!?! soren: yes | 16:52 |
| soren | Fascinating. | 16:52 |
| possumguy | hey all, is it safe to set parameters via tune2fs on a mounted filesystem? | 16:55 |
| dasunsru1e32 | not the best idea | 16:57 |
| possumguy | well after asking i found a mailing list entry from the almighty Theodore Tso saying it is safe. if im not back in 5, then my filesystems are fine. :P | 16:59 |
| TNorbut | Need help with an ACPI issue on boot. acpi: i/o resource piix4_smbus [0x1040-0x10471] conflicts with acpi region smb_ | 17:03 |
| BrixSat2 | . /home/aromacri/public_html/.htaccess: Options not allowed here --> http://pastebin.com/f672ee374 | 17:05 |
| Jeeves_ | AllowOverride | 17:07 |
| === cyphermo1 is now known as cyphermox | ||
| ivoks | hi | 17:20 |
| ivoks | we are aware that lucid has significant regression in postgresql performance? | 17:22 |
| jiboumans | ivoks: i'm not part of that we at least | 17:22 |
| jiboumans | what's going on? | 17:23 |
| ivoks | kernel issue | 17:23 |
| ivoks | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_perf_regressions&num=1 | 17:23 |
| ivoks | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_lucid_alpha2&num=3 | 17:23 |
| jiboumans | sounds pretty bad -- good opportunity to file a kernel bug if we dont have one already | 17:24 |
| ivoks | apparently, this is the issue: | 17:28 |
| ivoks | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=5f3481e9a80c240f169b36ea886e2325b9aeb745 | 17:28 |
| ivoks | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_perf_regressions&num=2 | 17:29 |
| ivoks | ext4 is killing us | 17:29 |
| ivoks | maybe we should stay with ext3 as default for servers :) | 17:29 |
| * ScottK has exactly zero ext4 systems. | 17:30 | |
| ivoks | eh, how about putting different defaults for server and desktop filesystems? | 17:32 |
| === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew | ||
| Sam-I-Am | i'm a fan of xfs | 17:37 |
| ivoks | me too | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | been using it for 10 years now without any problems | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think it was way too early for ubuntu server at least to adopt ext4 as the default | 17:37 |
| refnumzx | i was considering using ext4 on a media drive. what problems do we have with it? | 17:46 |
| refnumzx | i did a release-upgrade from jaunty to karmic console-setup is hanging on keymap install. ubuntu-minimal and kbd are not installing because of it. i want to be able to reboot into the new kernel. advice? i have resarted all the consoles, made sure locale returns en-us.utf8, but no go. | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | refnumzx: i heard it has issues with large files | 17:51 |
| TNorbut | Need help with an ACPI issue on boot. acpi: i/o resource piix4_smbus [0x1040-0x10471] conflicts with acpi region smb_ | 17:52 |
| refnumzx | sam-i-am: large files? 2tb or 2gb? | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think 500 mb | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | although i heard that was fixed in an update, you'd need to search around the bug reports | 17:53 |
| refnumzx | hmm. well i don't have any files larger then that video/music. i like the snapshot features in ext4 | 17:53 |
| ivoks | ext4? | 17:53 |
| ivoks | ext4 doesn't have issues with large files :) | 17:53 |
| zul | google is using it so everyone must use it | 17:53 |
| ivoks | not yet :/ | 17:54 |
| zul | but but google! | 17:54 |
| ivoks | google doesn't use latest kernel probably | 17:54 |
| zul | ivoks: google! | 17:56 |
| === greenfly_ is now known as greenfly | ||
| === vog-work is now known as Vog | ||
| ruben23 | hi guys, how do i mount cifs on windows client pc so i can see its share file or drive | 18:25 |
| ruben23 | may puprpose actually is to copy a backup file form my linux server to windows client pc drive.. | 18:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #508043 in ntp (main) "NTP Service crashed in Lucid Alpha 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508043 | 18:31 |
| refnumzx | during an upgrade from jaunty to karmic, console-setup hangs during install. i have restarted tty1-6 and tried setup again. locales are configured properly, but it still fails. | 18:42 |
| genii | ruben23: Make sure smbfs is installed. Then like: sudo mount -t cifs //x.x.x.x/sharename /local/mountpoint -o username=valid-windows-box-username where x.x.x.x is the IP of the windows machine, sharename is what the Windows box is calling it's exported share, /local/mountpoint is the directory in your linux machine to mount the contents into, etc | 18:45 |
| genii | ruben23: man mount.cifs has much info on options | 18:46 |
| nikolaj_basher | Hi :D I have a problem with DAVical anyone who can help?? please | 18:58 |
| === aubre is now known as aubre_afk | ||
| zul | mathiaz: can you look over server-lucid-improve-testcases real quick/ | 19:37 |
| mathiaz | zul: right - what do you want feedback on? | 19:39 |
| zul | mathiaz: overall feedback would be good | 19:39 |
| mathiaz | zul: Need more feedback on Mathias ISO testcoverage? | 19:39 |
| zul | yep | 19:40 |
| mathiaz | zul: I think the list of test cases to be added is good | 19:40 |
| zul | sounds good to me | 19:41 |
| zul | thanks! | 19:41 |
| === aubre_afk is now known as aubre | ||
| zul | mathiaz: can you add that to the whiteboard? | 19:44 |
| mathiaz | zul: sure | 19:44 |
| Skaag | Can LVM be used to create a Raid5 volume? | 19:54 |
| Skaag | or do I have to use the standard Raid physical partition? | 19:54 |
| neonfreon | make a regular raid device first and then lvm on top ofit | 19:55 |
| firekool | on ubuntu server I can not seam to install gnome-desktop get Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 19:55 |
| Skaag | gotcha | 19:56 |
| firekool | after apt-get update get a can not find package gnome-desktop | 19:56 |
| mjeanson | firekool: usually means your apt mirror is not responding | 20:00 |
| mjeanson | or you are using a version of ubuntu that is not supported anymore | 20:01 |
| firekool | using ubuntu 9.10 default sources list | 20:02 |
| Skaag | hm... | 20:02 |
| Skaag | I created two partitions on each of the 4 drives | 20:02 |
| Skaag | one uses 99% of the drive, the second 1% for swap | 20:02 |
| Skaag | (resulting in 7.5gb of swap per drive) | 20:02 |
| Skaag | I set both partitions, on all 4 drives, to be physical device for raid | 20:03 |
| Skaag | now I went into lvm and setup volume groups, primary using the large 4 partitions on all 4 drives | 20:03 |
| Skaag | and another volume group called swap, that uses the smaller 4 partitions on those drives | 20:03 |
| Skaag | and lvm converted those partitions to 'lvm' type | 20:03 |
| firekool | thanks mjeanson your hint helped me figure out the issue | 20:04 |
| Skaag | so they can no longer be used for raid | 20:04 |
| firekool | silly me put the gateway address wrong | 20:06 |
| mjeanson | skaag: you will have to create a raid array first with mdadm, then create a volume group on top of that | 20:06 |
| kirkland | jcastro: yeah, he's aliguori in #ubuntu-virt | 20:06 |
| Skaag | I see | 20:07 |
| mjeanson | skaag: an interresting read: http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/ | 20:12 |
| Skaag | mjeanson: I have 4 drives, and I want raid 5, would you use 3 and make the fourth a hot-spare if you were me? :-) | 20:20 |
| Skaag | I can afford to sacrifice the space | 20:20 |
| mjeanson | then I'd go for it | 20:20 |
| pting | so i'm using puppet to deploy mysql on an amazon ec2 instance. how do i tell apt-get to not start mysql after installing? | 20:26 |
| pting | hum, maybe it's in one of the in one of the preseed questions or something... | 20:27 |
| Skaag | no it's not | 20:27 |
| Skaag | maybe you can create a file in /etc/default that tells it not to start automatically | 20:27 |
| Skaag | but I can tell you for sure it doesn't ask whether or not to start the instance | 20:28 |
| Skaag | at the very least it must start it to create the debian-sys-maint user | 20:28 |
| pting | Skaag, doh, ya.. i think im gonna have to do some custom script... i'm basically trying to puppet deploy it, but the datadir is pointed to a directory that first needs to be mounted, but i want to ensure the owners of the directory is mysql:mysql, but i can't ensure that cause mysql user/group hasn't been created yet without first apt-get installing heh | 20:29 |
| Skaag | you can create them | 20:30 |
| Skaag | it will use them | 20:30 |
| Skaag | just make sure to use the right uid/gid for it | 20:30 |
| pting | oh, explicitly creating them.. i see.. ya should have thought about that first | 20:31 |
| Skaag | then you will be sure the permissions on your mount will persist | 20:31 |
| pting | cool, thanks | 20:31 |
| Skaag | mjeanson: ok so now I have two raid devices, one is 1.5TB, another is 15GB, and they both have LVM on them | 20:32 |
| Skaag | now I'm stuck not knowing how to get the first one to be the / partition, and the second one to be used as swap ;-) | 20:33 |
| mhall119|work | good afternoon | 20:33 |
| Skaag | this is all in the 9.10 server installer | 20:33 |
| mhall119|work | so I have a 9.04 server that's been running along like a champ, but I'd like to upgrade to 9.10 for some newer packages | 20:33 |
| mhall119|work | in desktop, you're supposed to use update-manager for upgrading releases | 20:33 |
| mhall119|work | is there is a similar something for ubuntu server? | 20:33 |
| Skaag | do-release-upgrade | 20:34 |
| mhall119|work | awesome, thanks | 20:35 |
| mhall119|work | anything I should be aware of before doing this? | 20:35 |
| mjeanson | do-release-upgrade -m server | 20:35 |
| mhall119|work | -m? | 20:35 |
| mhall119|work | ah, okay | 20:36 |
| mhall119|work | does the sandbox stuff work? | 20:36 |
| mjeanson | skaag: first, I would go with only one raid device with lvm on top | 20:38 |
| cab938 | anyone running esxi? | 20:46 |
| cab938 | got a quick question on management | 20:47 |
| Skaag | mjeanson: which means it can't be the root mount point | 20:52 |
| Skaag | So the way to go is a small raid ext4 or ext3 partition for / | 20:52 |
| Skaag | then an lvm partition for /home or /var | 20:52 |
| sub | cab938: I'm not running ESXi currently but I have in the past, what is your question? | 20:53 |
| mjeanson | skaag: I tough you were adding storage to an existing server | 20:53 |
| Skaag | nope this is a new install :-) | 20:53 |
| mjeanson | skaag: then you will need a normal partition out of lvm to boot | 20:54 |
| Skaag | but I can boot from a raid partition right? | 20:54 |
| mjeanson | sure | 20:54 |
| Skaag | with 9.10 | 20:54 |
| Skaag | so i'll keep that for now | 20:54 |
| Skaag | it's too simple a server to make it complicated | 20:54 |
| mjeanson | not sure about raid5, I used nly mirror | 20:54 |
| Skaag | I mean the job it needs to do is rather simple and non-critical | 20:54 |
| Skaag | well we're about to find out :-) | 20:55 |
| mjeanson | I don't think grub can read from a raid5 partition | 20:56 |
| Skaag | hm. | 20:59 |
| Skaag | crapola. | 20:59 |
| Skaag | I'm screwed then. | 20:59 |
| === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez | ||
| Skaag | mjeanson: right it doesn't boot from raid5 :-) | 21:25 |
| Skaag | mjeanson: oh, ok, it somehow booted! | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #507886 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "package mysql-server-5.0 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: 子进程 新的 pre-installation 脚本 返回了错误号 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507886 | 21:37 |
| erichammond | pting: Did you figure out how to install mysql without starting the server? | 21:41 |
| erichammond | pting: I point out one way to avoid this in the comments on this article: http://alestic.com/2010/01/vmbuilder-ebs-boot-ami | 21:43 |
| erichammond | pting: Search for policy-rc.d | 21:43 |
| TimoH | Hi there! I spent most of my week to one of our projects from several servers (Apple XServe & Linux) into one VMWare Server 2.0.2 VM using Ubuntu Server 9.10 Server 64bit. Everything is working now, but the file systems are not unmounting properly on shutdown. On every startup I get msgs from fsck. Not sure where to start. | 22:02 |
| TimoH | (gpmpf, wanted to say "to move one of our projects...") | 22:02 |
| TimoH | I'm not up to date on linux, having spent most of the last years solely on Mac OS X Server, so please forgive me some basic questions. | 22:04 |
| TimoH | Let's start with this one: I cannot find out in which file I can find the messages displayed on console during boot-up (fsck, etc.). At least I couldn't find them in /var/log/** and dmesg also doesn't include them. | 22:06 |
| mjeanson | timoh: there is no bootlog in ubuntu | 22:09 |
| TimoH | ok, not good for copy&paste... | 22:10 |
| bogeyd6 | TimoH, i got you | 22:10 |
| mjeanson | the best you get is /var/log/kern.log but it's only the kernel messages | 22:10 |
| bogeyd6 | TimoH, its /var/log/boot | 22:11 |
| bogeyd6 | TimoH, /var/log/dmesg is next | 22:12 |
| bogeyd6 | TimoH, /var/log/fsck if related to that | 22:12 |
| TimoH | wait a minute, this dreaded vmware "web" console is not working nurrently... (argh) | 22:12 |
| guntbert | TimoH: mjeanson you can enable the boot log by editing /etc/default/bootlogd | 22:13 |
| bogeyd6 | TimoH, you need to clear the browser cache and reopen the browser | 22:13 |
| bogeyd6 | you are a lucky man, i just happen to be an ubuntu expert on vmware | 22:13 |
| TimoH | guntbert: Thanks. Changed and rebooting now. | 22:14 |
| guntbert | TimoH: Good luck :-) | 22:14 |
| mjeanson | guntbert: I'm pretty sure it's broken on hardy, not sure about newer versions | 22:14 |
| guntbert | mjeanson: maybe - but in newer versions it is disabled by default too - hence my hint :) | 22:15 |
| mjeanson | guntbert: yeah, the initscripts are provided by the initscripts package but the bootlog package doesn't exist | 22:17 |
| mjeanson | there are a lot of longstanding bootlog bugs in launchpad | 22:18 |
| guntbert | mjeanson: well in karmic there I have it | 22:18 |
| mjeanson | guntbert: I was reffering to hardy, good to know about karmic | 22:20 |
| TimoH | (have a local "emergency": daughther vomits, BRB, thx for your help) | 22:20 |
| bogeyd6 | how polite | 22:21 |
| bogeyd6 | we need more of that in the linux world | 22:21 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| chmac | Does ext3 track the file creation time as well as the modified and accessed times? | 22:48 |
| chmac | Nope, found the answer... :-) | 22:48 |
| === WaVeR` is now known as WaVeR | ||
| TimoH | ok, back in business. anyone wants to swap memes for the last hour or so? I'm not so sure I want to keep mine... | 23:23 |
| TimoH | re: politeness in communities: Is it that bad in the linux universe? As mentioned before, haven't been "here" for a while.... | 23:23 |
| TimoH | re: politeness in communities (again): If you want a real nice community, become a WebObjects developer. You'll be a bit lonesome, though. | 23:23 |
| === soren` is now known as soren | ||
| === stew_ is now known as Guest52559 | ||
| mathiaz | soren: hey | 23:30 |
| mathiaz | soren: I'm forwarding you the emails related to puppet-etckeeper integration | 23:30 |
| TimoH | Ok, obviously no one from the previous conversation is online anymore. So let's try again: | 23:31 |
| TimoH | I installed Ubuntu Server 9.10 into a VMWare Server 2.0.2 VM. | 23:31 |
| TimoH | I haven't used Linux for quite a while, so I mostly went with the defaults during installation (LVN & ext4) | 23:32 |
| TimoH | Now that all of my apps are working fine, I have the problem, that the file systems are not unmounted cleanly on shutdown. | 23:33 |
| TimoH | And I have no idea where to start searching. | 23:34 |
| TimoH | Anyone? | 23:34 |
| === viezerd_ is now known as viezerd | ||
| === Guest52559 is now known as stew | ||
| soren | mathiaz: Thanks. | 23:44 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #508179 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "MySQL 5.0 install error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508179 | 23:46 |
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