[00:46] <pH> hey guys
[00:47] <pH> my new ruby library to implement notify-osd notifications
[00:47] <pH> http://github.com/pedrofranceschi/notify-osd-ruby
[00:54] <kees> should debian bug 562048 be merged with the collection in 130876 ?
[00:56] <kees> cjwatson: ^^   sorry, missed prefixing that question.
[01:01] <cjwatson> kees: certainly not completely.
[01:01] <cjwatson> kees: I'd rather leave that cluster alone, TBH. :-)
[01:03] <kees> cjwatson: oh, okay.  how is that different?  Seems to be the same original issue?
[01:03] <kees> doko_: can you approve my membership to the openjdk LP team?
[01:12] <cjwatson> kees: huge bugs with lots of people reporting lots of different things.  Not all of them are covered by this and I really don't want to go and unpick them.
[01:12] <kees> cjwatson: cool, yeah, that's fine by me.  just curious.
[01:12] <cjwatson> kees: some bits are fixed and some are wontfix.  A task for another day.
[01:12] <kees> heh, understood.
[01:15] <bryyce> hmm, I took karmic's miro package, updated it to lucid with no other changes, and put it into a lucid ppa, and it is failing to build now
[01:15] <bryyce> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37943965/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.miro_2.5.3-1ubuntu2~bryce_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[01:16] <bryyce> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_python-mt
[01:16] <bryyce> ^ anyone have clues on this?
[01:16] <kees> there's a boost transition, iirc.
[01:16] <slangasek> there's always a boost transition
[01:16] <kees> haha
[01:16] <bryyce> okay...
[01:16] <bryyce> g++ -pthread -shared -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,--as-needed -g -O2 -g -Wall -O2 /build/buildd/miro-2.5.3/./build/temp.linux-x86_64-2.6/build/buildd/miro-2.5.3/portable/fasttypes.o -lboost_python-mt -o /build/buildd/miro-2.5.3/./build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.6/miro/fasttypes.so\
[01:17] <bryyce> how's that going to need changed?
[01:17] <kees> the build-deps need to be changed most likely.  but in what way, I don't know.
[01:17] <crimsun> libboost-python1.40-dev: /usr/lib/libboost_python-mt-py26.a
[01:17] <crimsun> libboost-python1.40-dev: /usr/lib/libboost_python-mt-py26.so
[01:17] <kees> if you can find what has libboost_python-mt.so in it now...
[01:17] <kees> oh
[01:17] <kees> there it is.  :)
[01:18] <slangasek> yeah, it's not a build-dep problem
[01:18] <kees> oh ew, really?
[01:18] <slangasek> the package needs to change the way it looks for libboost-python - see the above name change
[01:18] <kees> ew
[01:18] <slangasek> libboost_python-mt-py26, not libboost_python-mt
[01:18] <bryyce> miro's build-depends include:
[01:18] <kees> -py26 that's cute.
[01:18] <bryyce>                libboost-python-dev,
[01:18] <bryyce>                libboost-filesystem-dev,
[01:18] <bryyce>                libboost-date-time-dev,
[01:18] <bryyce>                libboost-thread-dev,
[01:18] <bryyce>                libboost-serialization-dev,
[01:19] <bryyce> do I need to make them specify a version, or is this something that needs changed in libboost-python-dev?
[01:19] <slangasek> neither, see above
[01:19] <slangasek> the python ABI version has to be specified as part of the linker line now
[01:20] <slangasek> (we could change it, but this is courtesy of the Debian maintainers, and the last thing you want to do is be responsible for a boost delta ;)
[01:20] <bryyce> hm
[01:20] <kees> doesn't it provide a pkgconfig file?  wtf
[01:20] <bryyce> so leave debian/control as is, and update rules?
[01:20]  * slangasek nods
[01:20] <slangasek> kees: have you met boost?
[01:20] <kees> apparently not.
[01:21] <bryyce> urf.  miro uses cdbs and doesn't explicitly mention boost anywhere in rules
[01:21] <slangasek> well, you might have to patch the upstream makefile anyway
[01:21]  * kees runs screaming from boost
[01:22] <slangasek> good call
[01:26] <bryyce> intriguing
[01:26] <bryyce> miro hasn't any makefile or autoconfage, it does all the g++ stuff from python
[01:27] <bryyce> which automagically figures out which boost library to use.  mmph
[01:27] <bryyce> brain hurt :-(
[01:28] <bryyce> ok well at least I know now the build breakage isn't my own fault :-)
[01:43] <Sarvatt> bryyce: changing line 308 in platform/gtk-x11/setup.py to return "%s-mt-py26" % s let it build here  locally
[01:45] <bryyce> Sarvatt, thanks
[02:28] <hggdh> question: would Debian be insterested on updated debian/patches for coreutils-8.4?
[04:18] <crimsun> ion: I'm happy to reenable flat volumes for PA, but I don't know a good way of evaluating whether it's suitable for an LTS
[04:18] <crimsun> ion: my instinct is that it isn't (suitable)
[04:19] <ScottK> crimsun: If you consider that enabling PA by default was considered suitable for an LTS, I think the bar is pretty low.
[04:19] <crimsun> ScottK: right, this would be the second LTS
[04:20] <ScottK> Well whatever the arguments for against PA, I thought an LTS was an odd place to start.
[04:20] <ScottK> I guess we're trying to do better this time around.
[04:20] <crimsun> one could say that, yes.
[08:20] <Dhaval23> can anybodu know how to connect samsung s3310 in ubuntu9.10 for mobile broadband
[08:22] <Dhaval23> hello
[08:57] <ulaas> hi. hal is to go away right.? i have upgraded from karmic to give the current devel a look. hal packages stays on the system. is it ok to remove them? including libhal?
[08:59] <ulaas> or hal only dropped from power management.? so the rest of the system needs it?
[09:01] <siretart> ulaas: there are still some package that have not been ported to libudev, e.g. pcscd, but there are also others
[09:04] <ulaas> siretart, so libhal will always be a dependency? or it will also go away?
[09:04] <siretart> ulaas: eventually, it will go away AFAIUI
[09:05] <siretart> maybe
[09:05] <ulaas> siretart, thank you sir. :)
[09:05] <Guest86434> my glib is latest 2.23.1,. but i git this error in ubuntu 9.10  /x/git2/nautilus/src/nautilus-pathbar.c:1380: undefined reference to `g_mount_get_default_location'
[09:05] <Guest86434> when i want to compile
[09:05] <rauch> I would like to participate in some OpenSource project in Team to get skill and knowledge. I know C++ and Java. What can you sugest for me? May be you know that teams? I have now experience.
[09:06] <rauch> *no experience
[09:07] <Guest86434> how can i compile nautilus on ubuntu,?
[09:11] <alkisg> Guest86434: apt-get build-dep nautilus ?
[09:12] <alkisg> rauch: the #ubuntu-motu channel might be a better place to start...
[09:14] <slacker_nl> hello everyone, hoe can I create a source package with pbuilder? I've used pdebuild --use-pdebuild-internal, and documenation states that this behaviour doesn't create source packages..
[09:15] <slacker_nl> is there a way to create a source package even when using --use-pdebuild-internal? or should I use hooks to satisfy dependencies so I don't have to use use-pdebuild-internal?
[09:16] <Guest86434> alkisg,making....
[09:18] <Guest86434> alkisg, same problem http://pastebin.com/m461fe7dd
[09:18] <Guest86434> making nautilus but this errot message, http://pastebin.com/m461fe7dd , i don't know what remain to od
[13:24] <etuken> hello, I found bug in Alpha2 installer but don't know how to file bug for it
[13:26] <persia> toruk: We generally discuss bug management in #ubuntu-bugs.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs is the documentation on filing bugs.
[14:17] <lfaraone> Uh, I just realized a package I had gotten sponsored to proposed A) doesn't fix the problem, because I forgot to include simple-patchsys in rules, and B) the patch I created would cause a syntax error on execution.
[14:17] <lfaraone> When I upload a debdiff to lp that fixes this, should I bump the 0.x rev number, and should I debdiff against the one in karmic or the one in -proposed?
[14:23] <persia> lfaraone: See -motu
[14:25] <lfaraone> persia: mk.
[15:27] <pitti> RainCT: ergh, terribly sorry; I'll fix it up now
[15:30] <RainCT> pitti: not a big deal :)
[15:30] <pitti> RainCT: branch fixed, uploaded; thanks for pointing out
[15:31] <pitti> apw: yes, it does; see http://macaroni.ubuntu.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-kernel-team.html
[15:32] <pitti> asac: it's not picker about syntax, but about assignment and team membership
[15:32]  * persia idly wonders if we ought make `dch -i`have special handling when the target of the previous changelog entry is "UNRELEASED"
[15:33] <pitti> slangasek: I regenerated all old alpha-2 reports
[16:13] <pitti> slangasek: about https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lucid-ubuntu-one-symlinks-and-udfs -> that's an OLS spec, it's on http://macaroni.ubuntu.com/~pitti/workitems/ubuntuone-hackers.html
[17:48] <tweakt> I'm trying to preseed the user creation but with a locked password, and I'm going to automatically install an authorized_keys file for access.
[17:49] <tweakt> tried "d-i passwd/user-password-crypted password !"
[17:49] <tweakt> but still prompting
[19:05] <slangasek> pitti: yes, it's an UbuntuOne spec, but who's responsible for ensuring it's on track for Lucid?  UbuntuOne is an "upstream" team, isn't it?
[19:05] <slangasek> pitti: regenerated>  thanks!
[19:59] <sroecker> hi, is there a way to compile the i915 module with only kernel headers?
[20:07] <siretart> superm1: ffmpeg that build depends on libvdpau uploaded to lucid
[20:26] <crimsun> slangasek: / cjwatson: do I need an MIR bug report to promote libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio to main?
[20:36] <c_korn> what do I have to do to get a package (scilab 5.2.0-1) synced from experimental ?
[20:37] <geser> file a sync request as usual but also state why it should be synced from experimental
[20:38] <c_korn> geser: ok, I think I am expected to have tested it. so I first build it in a PPA and test it in the current lucid version.
[20:38] <geser> yes
[20:42] <c_korn> geser: ok, thanks.
[20:50] <neXyon> hi there
[20:51] <neXyon> crimsun: are you there?
[20:59] <mkaduk> Hi, how to remove pulseshitaudio without losing volume control applet ?
[20:59] <mkaduk> Is there a way not to use this buggy software?
[21:00] <mkaduk> why its forced in distribution ?
[21:00] <jbicha> mkaduk: try using KDE, but seriously, ask support questions in #ubuntu
[21:00] <mkaduk> I hope someone wise will remove it soon from Ubuntu official releases
[21:01] <mkaduk> jbicha, the problem is that when I remove pulseaudio I get no volume control applet
[21:01] <mkaduk> so its more Ubuntu development releated problem. Why this is forced to use PA, most people dont want it, cause its not working
[21:03] <jbicha> mkaduk: PulseAudio is the standard for Linux audio these days, at least with GNOME, if you're having sound problems, #ubuntu is really a more appropriate chatroom than here
[21:03] <neXyon> urgh, pulse sucks
[21:03] <neXyon> xD
[21:04] <mkaduk> neXyon, I agree, most of software does not work correctly because of it, is that standard now these days to have not working audio in gnome?
[21:05] <Hellow> It's a matter of personal opinion.
[21:05] <neXyon> Hellow: sure, but the default should be pulse OFF as it suits the needs for MOST if not all users
[21:06] <Hellow> That would break a lot of applications included in the Ubuntu distribution.
[21:06] <neXyon> one example that might be interesting to read: http://audaspace.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/the-pulseaudio-pain/
[21:06] <mkaduk> neXyon, is common topic
[21:08] <mkaduk> Hellow, 99.999% applications are not pure Pulseaudio apps and can use alsa. The problem is that Ubuntu removes volume control from gnome packages so you're forced to use PA if you want that
[21:10] <mkaduk> and most of people dont want not working software, which is PA in this case. Even with external sound card it does not work properly I have Sound Blaster X-Fi and it has problems selecting device all the time. I blacklisted integrated sound module and removed PA, works fine.
[21:11] <neXyon> yeah
[21:11] <neXyon> alsa can do everything I want
[21:11] <mkaduk> moreover Skype, Empathy does not work properly with it and you need "Perfect Setup" entire website with walkarounds how to make things like flash etc.. working
[21:11] <neXyon> I even have sound working over hdmi to my TV and I configured alsa to play to my TV as well as to my subwoofer connected to the PC, when watching movies :D
[21:14] <mkaduk> neXyon, I am guessing even package maintainer is not using it
[21:14] <mkaduk> neXyon, anyway lets move discussion to #ubuntu
[21:19] <neXyon> I wonder if ubuntu devs update the openal version to 1.11 on all affected ubuntu versions when it's out
[21:19] <neXyon> what will be today...
[21:41] <neXyon> can I somehow check the patches that are applied to a specific ubuntu package when being compiled?
[21:44] <geser> sure, grab the source package and look at the included patches or look at the .diff.gz for directly applied changes (not every package uses patches)
[21:44] <Tm_T> or
[21:44] <Tm_T> neXyon: for example, http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/karmic/qt4-x11
[21:45] <Tm_T> neXyon: in far right there's links to debian source repository, which contains packaging information and patches
[22:44] <hspaans> g'day all
[22:46] <hspaans> is there someone here with an IBM or Lenovo laptop?
[22:54] <trewq> http://www.pandamailer.de/?bettel=pimbolli
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