[00:01] <val|> how can i find where/why/how a dpkg configure script is locked up?
[00:01] <daftykins> jongbergs: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<version here> then after that, sudo apt-get autoremove usually takes out unnecessary headers etc
[00:02] <kwtm_> hello?  netsplit?
[00:02] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: sorry lol
[00:02] <xtjacob> for some reason when i try to install grub to a flash drive with BT4 i get "sed:read error /media/yada yada/grub/device.map input/output error" does anyone know hoe to fix this?
[00:02] <val|> running dpkg --configure -a in gdb, when i break once it freezes it just says "__kernel_vsyscall", no idea what that means.
[00:02] <val|> er, when i backtrace (bt) it.
[00:03] <lyrae> is there a program out there like Cheese, but that allows you to adjust brightness, contrast, etc?
[00:03] <val|> ... i wish i knew why ubuntu embraced broken software like upstart and pulseaudio, they just don't work reliably...
[00:04] <kgs> lyrae, You can do that with Cheese. I did it just now.
[00:04] <lyrae> kgs, ah crap. thank you
[00:04] <lyrae> i see
[00:04] <kgs> Cool
[00:04] <kwtm_> am I still here or do I need to identify myself?
[00:04] <kgs> Yeah, for some reason the default settings are not bright enough.
[00:05] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: Got the answer to your question.  Can you still hear me?
[00:05] <lyrae> what if i skype? i dont think skype has brightness options. is there a program that can fix that?
[00:05] <WAIXEN> hi
[00:06] <WAIXEN> hi
[00:06] <kgs> lyrae, I have no idea... I never use webcams. I was just using Cheese to screw around with the built-in one on this laptop.
[00:06] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: yup
[00:06] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: ive been backslashing my butt off and i cant get it right for some reason
[00:06] <AmateurUser> I've created a 1.5TB EXT4 partition but forgot to create a swap space. How do I shrink a 1.5TB EXT4 partition without it taking all week?
[00:07] <tucemiux> which version of virtualbox will allow me to use usb devices?
[00:07] <jrib> AmateurUser: gparted?
[00:07] <lyrae> kgs, hehe. no prob. still, thanks for the help
[00:07] <AmateurUser> jrib: Won't that take weeks?
[00:07] <jrib> tucemiux: the non-free one on their website
[00:07] <jrib> AmateurUser: shouldn't
[00:07] <tucemiux> jrib, the OSE version?
[00:07] <jrib> tucemiux: no
[00:07] <AmateurUser> jrib: How long do you think it'd take to shrink a 1.5TB EXT4 partition by about 2 GBs?
[00:08] <jrib> AmateurUser: I don't know, but not weeks
[00:08] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: It turns out you CAN use ASCII hex.  So, instead of '>', use '\x3e' etc.
[00:08] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: What was that sequence again?
[00:08] <syn-ack> AmateurUser: SHouldnt take that long at all... maybe a couple minutes
[00:08] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: setTimeout('TINY.box.show("session.php?suid=<?php echo $id; ?>",1,200,200,1,0);', <?php echo $timeLeft; ?>);
[00:08] <AmateurUser> jrib: I remember resizing a 200GB EXT4 partition a while back, and it took hours!
[00:08] <AmateurUser> syn-ack: It took hours last time.
[00:08] <jrib> AmateurUser: I resized ~400gb and it took minutes
[00:09] <syn-ack> Amaranth: I have a 160 here and it only took a couple minutes
[00:09] <AmateurUser> jrib: You shrank it?
[00:09] <tucemiux> jrib, i see, the one released under the PUEL
[00:09] <syn-ack> if it did take that long there's something wrong somewhere in your hardware
[00:09] <jrib> tucemiux: yeah
[00:09] <kgs> AmateurUser, is there any alternative? No. So just do it.
[00:09] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: setTimeout\x28\x27TINY\.box\.show\x28\x22 etc.
[00:09] <kwtm_> Holy net-split-join-split!
[00:10] <lyrae> lol
[00:10] <AmateurUser> kgs: I'm not going to start a process, which could take an extremely long time, and risk losing a lot of my data, which can't be backed up.
[00:10] <jrib> AmateurUser: data that is not backed up is not important data
[00:10] <kgs> Haha
[00:10] <Undertow> wow
[00:10] <syn-ack> jrib: as a matter of fact that's something I call an RGE
[00:10] <indrora> How do I make Java work on karmic?
[00:10] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, it all depends on your hard drive, I partitioned my SATA hard drive with an ntfs partition and the rest for linux within minutes, IDE hard drives have taken quite some time just to format but not as long as in windows
[00:11] <Undertow> what the hell is going on
[00:11] <B3rz3rk3r> whats up Undertow ?
[00:11] <indrora> Undertow, net services going up and down?
[00:11] <syn-ack> jrib: AKA Resume Generating Event
[00:11] <tucemiux> underdog7, netsplit
[00:11] <clement_> hi
[00:11] <tucemiux> !netsplit
[00:11] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: This 1.5TB partition is full of data.
[00:11] <jrib> syn-ack: heh
[00:11] <Undertow> I never have seen freenode split I guess
[00:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[00:11] <indrora> Supersaiyan_IV, I have java installed.
[00:11] <kgs> data = porn?
[00:11] <maco> kgs: no
[00:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin ← if you want the firefox java plugin
[00:12] <kgs> Damn
[00:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, is it sdk related?
[00:13] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, if you want to resize the hard drive it can take a very **long** time, if you want to erase the hard drive then it will take a matter of minutes, resizing has always taken a lot of time but I do know that it works, it hasn't crashed on me and ive done it plenty of times, i even restored a partitioned after I deleted it by mistake
[00:13] <Parabola> i havent seen a netsplit since DALnet
[00:13] <Parabola> is DALnet even around anymore?
[00:13] <AbolishSocialism> Yep
[00:13] <AbolishSocialism> I'm on there right now
[00:13] <RAWR> can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy
[00:13] <RAWR> can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy
[00:14] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I don't have a UPS. :(
[00:14] <Parabola> lol
[00:14] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: If I get a power cut whilst resizing my partition, I'm fucked.
[00:14] <Parabola> AbolishSocialism, wow thats awesome
[00:14] <IdleOne_> !ot > RAWR
[00:14] <Parabola> AbolishSocialism,  i havent been on dalnet since 2004
[00:14] <Parabola> if that late
[00:14] <RAWR> k sori =/ do u kno a hack channel?
[00:14] <RAWR> =/
[00:14] <AbolishSocialism> Parabola, it's never too late
[00:14] <jongbergs> hi, how do i remove old kernels and related files using aptitude?
[00:14] <AbolishSocialism> that place is like a fungus infection
[00:15] <Parabola> haha
[00:15] <IdleOne_> RAWR: ##windows
[00:15] <AbolishSocialism> It just never goes away
[00:15] <Parabola> OWNT
[00:15] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, do you have a lot of data?  you might consider backing it up to servers on the net if it's not sensitive data
[00:15] <Flare183> !ot
[00:15] <kgs> LOL
[00:15] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: It would take months to upload to the net.
[00:15] <Flare183> !netplsit
[00:15] <kgs> sensitive data = porn?
[00:15] <Flare183> !netsplit
[00:15] <Flare183> !ops | kgs move it
[00:15] <Parabola> !queef
[00:15] <Parabola> srsly, no queef entry?
[00:15] <Murphy_55> hi
[00:16] <Parabola> hahaha
[00:16] <Parabola> [00:16] <Tm_T> kgs: please try to behave
[00:16] <Undertow> man
[00:16] <Flare183> !ot | Undertow, Parabola
[00:16] <kgs> Sorry... I don't know why I think this is so funny.
[00:16] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, so do it when you know Mr. Chavez wont be cutting the electricity
[00:16] <tucemiux> kgs, precisely!
[00:16] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I have tons of films, games and TV shoes unbacked up.
[00:16] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I have, however, backed up my photographs, music collection and documents. :)
[00:16] <AmateurUser> I lack the capacity to back everything up.
[00:16] <AmateurUser> So unless I get a UPS, I'm not making a swap space.
[00:16] <Murphy_55> cool, this chat works on my palm pre!!
[00:17] <Undertow> off topic?
[00:17] <Undertow> whats off topic about my question
[00:17] <Parabola> everyone should have a UPS
[00:17] <Undertow> I got my nVidia GeForce 9800 working with X11 (i.e., startx works fine), but when I boot, it still keeps getting this white circle ubuntu logo, is that gdm?  Do I need to reconfigure gdm if I changed the video drivers and xorg.conf?
[00:17] <AmateurUser> Parabola: Students struggle to afford them.
[00:17] <Homely_Girl> Greeting brainy ones!!
[00:17] <mneptok> !offtopic | Parabola
[00:17] <leeo> hola
[00:17] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, a UPS or another hard drive to use as back up would do the trick, whatever is cheapest or more convenient for you
[00:17] <Parabola> mneptok,  how is a UPS off topic?
[00:18] <kgs> Haha
[00:18] <Homely_Girl> Is there any software available on Karmic that will allow me to send text msg's from my Three mobile b/band dongle??
[00:18] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I guess buying more DDR RAM would probably be cheaper.
[00:18] <Homely_Girl> Pleased I got the dongle working.....
[00:18] <mneptok> Parabola: everything elese wo've said is.
[00:18] <leeo> alguien de argentina?
[00:18] <mneptok> *you've
[00:19] <Parabola> right, and someone already warned me, i was confused by the redundancy
[00:19] <Undertow> hah
[00:19] <Undertow> -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, as you may be aware one of the reasons we're changing ircds is because hyperion attracts bugs like nectar does bees -- the recent splits were caused by software issues which I believe we have ironed out, and hyperion should just about manage to last us these last two weeks. Apologies for the inconvenience and good night!
[00:19] <Parabola> sweet
[00:19] <leeo> alguien que hable español?, necesito una ayuda
[00:19] <Undertow> its funny how they take IRC serious
[00:19] <Homely_Girl> Is there any software available on Karmic that will allow me to send text msg's from my Three mobile b/band dongle??
[00:19] <IdleOne_> !es | leeo
[00:19] <mneptok> !es | leeo
[00:19] <Parabola> Undertow, is your name a TOOL reference?
[00:19] <jeiworth> leeo: /j #ubuntu-mx
[00:19] <Undertow> yes
[00:19] <Parabola> good man :)
[00:20] <lyrae> christel, what?
[00:20] <mneptok> Parabola: and that's on-topic?
[00:20] <Parabola> of course it is
[00:20] <Undertow> a good album
[00:20] <mneptok> Parabola: do i need to tell you again?
[00:20] <Parabola> we are discussing getting audio to play in ubuntu
[00:20] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: It's REALLY annoying when Ubuntu runs out of RAM and doesn't have any swap.
[00:20] <Homely_Girl> I guess no one can answer, ciao
[00:20] <Undertow> I like Flood the best off that album though
[00:20] <Parabola> Undertow,  is helping with my xmms
[00:20] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Hold on, I know the best solution. I should just create a swap file!
[00:20] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, I was talking about another hard drive,  if you buy another hard drive you can back up your data to that hard drive and repartition the hard drive in your system without any worries
[00:20] <Undertow> I like Aenma the best though
[00:21] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Yeah, or I could just make a swap file.
[00:21] <Parabola> Undertow,  me too
[00:21] <indrora> Augh, I still cant get java working in SeaMonkey
[00:21] <Undertow> I sorta like that stupid carnival music during intermission then next song comes on its badass
[00:21] <mneptok> !offtopic | Undertow
[00:21] <Undertow> mneptok: chill out yo
[00:21] <AmateurUser> Is Freenode under attack or something?
[00:22] <kgs> We're not allowed to talk about anything other than Linux?
[00:22] <AmateurUser> kgs: Nothing other than Ubuntu.
[00:22] <AmateurUser> kgs: Otherwise, take it to another channel.
[00:22] <tucemiux> kgs, please, that is very distracting, there are users that need the channel to post their questions, this channel is the official channel for ubuntu support
[00:22] <kgs> Ack! I'm going to start my own Ubuntu channel! I'll name it #Ubuntu-OT
[00:22] <soreau> kgs: Specifically, ubuntu
[00:23] <soreau> ! ot | kgs
[00:23] <Riverthief> Sup guys, I was just wondering if anyone here has successfully port forwarded in virtualbox with an ubuntu 9.10 hots. Guest is XP SP3
[00:23] <AmateurUser> kgs: That's fine. Go ahead.
[00:23] <Riverthief> *host
[00:23] <kgs> lol
[00:23] <Flare183> !lol | kgs
[00:23] <mneptok> kgs: actually, it's not fine. #ubuntu* is Ubuntu IRC namespace, and cannot be used except by official channels.
[00:24] <jongbergs> hi, how do i remove old kernels and related files using aptitude?
[00:24] <seryl> Does anyone know of a ruby or python replacement for piwik?
[00:24] <kgs> This is hilarious...
[00:24] <Supersaiyan_IV> jongbergs, sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[00:24] <soreau> kgrandis_: No one is laughing
[00:25] <AmateurUser> soreau: Tab-complete fail.
[00:25] <jrib> jongbergs: just remove the corresponding package, linux-image-whatever
[00:25] <soreau> AmateurUser: This channel = fail
[00:25] <AmateurUser> soreau: Why?
[00:25] <soreau> AmateurUser: FAIL!
[00:26] <tucemiux> jongbergs, if youre using karmic there's a utility called janitor or something like that
[00:26] <jrib> seryl: moinmoin?
[00:26] <raul_> I used the xvidcap to make an video, but I don't know where my video was saved...
[00:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> Anyone experiencing iwlagn kernel panics and or disconnects on 64bit?
[00:26] <tucemiux> jongbergs, computer janitor
[00:26] <seryl> jrib: it's analytics software, not a wiki :)
[00:26] <jrib> seryl: oops
[00:26] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Don't very old kernels automatically get removed when using update-manager?
[00:26] <soreau> AmateurUser: Nope
[00:27] <AmateurUser> soreau: I could have sworn it did it for me before.
[00:27] <raul_> I made a video with xvidcap... where is the video that I made? I cannot find it...
[00:27] <Riverthief> VMware is available for Ubuntu right?
[00:28] <jrib> Riverthief: yes
[00:28] <soreau> raul_: Did you check the CWD?
[00:28] <kgs> Riverthief, of course. But as far as I know it is not free. I don't believe it is in the package tree.
[00:28] <raul_> soreau: I'm sorry, but I don't what CWD is.
[00:28] <soreau> raul_: Current Working Directory
[00:28] <Riverthief> Ok, ty
[00:29] <raul_> soreau: thanks!
[00:29] <ardchoille> !info vmware-package
[00:29] <Riverthief> Do any of you know how to port forward to VirtualBox? I need port 8000 :P
[00:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, that's a router issue i persume?
[00:29] <onetinsoldier> it's interesting that 'echo $CWD' doesn't show anything though. you have to do 'echo $PWD' :-|
[00:30] <Indy^> I saw a big article on that on the web
[00:30] <calliscope> Riverthief> you can use virtualbox-ose, which is the reps and will build you it's module nicely on each kernel update
[00:30] <evanthia> I'm trying to get the hotkeys to work on my laptop. Isn't the /etc/acpi events working in Karmic?
[00:30] <Riverthief> Yea but I can't seem to forward ports using the NAT thing in VirtualBox :S
[00:31] <evanthia> I mean I have use acpi_listen to get key id but when I correct the ID in the event still nothing happens even after reboot
[00:31]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[00:31] <javatexan> I am trying to do some web development.  I want to use php/ajax/js/etc and I know that I can install LAMPP....the question is, is there an easy way to only allow localhost connections?
[00:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, do it manually, login into your router according to steps on http://portforward.com/ and forward it manually
[00:33] <Riverthief> I already have the ports forwarded, but for some reason it isn't forwarded in my guest OS
[00:33] <Riverthief> Something to do with VirtualBox
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: use a firewall. i'm using fwbuilder-3.07 and get the feeling you can do just about anything with it, after learning how to use it of course
[00:33] <Riverthief> and NAT configurations
[00:34] <jrib> Riverthief: did you read the virtualbox documentation?  It explains how to do that and provides an example for ssh
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: right now, my macing only allows SSH on localhost after the firewall i made
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: machine*
[00:35] <Riverthief> Yes, I read the documentation for my exact version, it shows me a little setting in the NNAT configuration, but it isn't there lol. I have also manually done the "all-version" fix from terminal, but to no avail :S
[00:35] <Riverthief> *NAT
[00:36] <jrib> Riverthief: what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:37] <Riverthief> A home RAT network
[00:37] <javatexan> k...gotcha...thanks.  I think I have ufw installed right now...just didnt want my local machine being pwnd!
[00:37] <javatexan> :)
[00:37] <Riverthief> Sec
[00:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, is this relevant? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682519
[00:38] <dtcrshr> i need help with this error -  Depende: wine (=1.0.0-1ubuntu4~hardy1) but 1.1.28-1~hardy1 is to be installed
[00:38] <dtcrshr> how can i fix it to install wine-dev ?
[00:40] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: you could just remove wine, but it is weird that it wants to install wine stable rather than wine daily
[00:40] <dtcrshr> well, actually im using ubuntustudio
[00:41] <dtcrshr> and i need wine to use vst plugins
[00:41] <Mahal> Hi channel!
[00:41] <delfick> hello, does anyone know what could cause this error http://pastebin.com/m7612bb93 ??
[00:41] <dtcrshr> so i can install fst
[00:42] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: well, it wants to to downgrade your wine, which is unsupported.  So it stops.  If you remove wine, it will just reinstall it.  Im sure there is a way to force it...  Im not sure how to do it with apt though
[00:43] <dtcrshr> hmm good point
[00:43] <poseidon> Anyone know how I could edit a pdf file or convert it to an odf
[00:43] <Mahal> I have some trouble setting up a Karmic laptop for a friend here. I have a router with broken IPv6 support, but after disabling IPv6 with Firefox I get online on web and can ping. But I still cant get any contact with apt-get, synaptic or updates. I tried to set both local and main servers in software sources.Any tips?
[00:43] <maco> poseidon: install openoffice.org-pdfimport
[00:43] <CAPcap_> So when Empathy is open, I don't have a bar for it on my lower panel. This is a problem because it makes it hard to switch to quickly and a real pain to get to if I minimize it. How can I fix this?
[00:43] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: but maybe you are working with the wrong wine-dev
[00:43] <Riverthief> Well what I need to do is, forward port 8000, which is already forwarded on my host, but doesn't seem to be on my guest. I am making a home RAT network to test a program of my own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Administration_Tool
[00:44] <Dunkirk> ChogyDan, apt-get install <package>=<version>
[00:44] <ChogyDan> Dunkirk: ah, cool! thanks
[00:44] <dtcrshr> well, removed wine and tryed again - wine-dev:
[00:44] <dtcrshr>   Depende: wine (=1.0.0-1ubuntu4~hardy1) but 1.1.28-1~hardy1 is to be installed
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> use aptitude
[00:45] <Dunkirk> Mahal, Can you go to, say, google.com?
[00:45] <Riverthief> Now what the [articular one I am using does, is it uses a "reverse connection". I have a client on my computer(VM), and need to "listen" on port 8000 for my servers.
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> open up aptitude and search on the package that's giving you trouble(use '/' to start a search). press enter when you have the package highlighted. aptitude will probably show you what the conflict is... in detail
[00:46] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Yes, no problem
[00:46] <pH> hey guys
[00:46] <poseidon> maco, after I install it how do I import the pdf into open office?
[00:46]  * Dunkirk scratches his head.
[00:46] <maco> poseidon: file -> open
[00:46] <CAPcap_> When Empathy is open, I don't have a bar for it on my lower panel. This is a problem because it makes it hard to switch to quickly and a real pain to get to if I minimize it. How can I fix this?
[00:47] <poseidon> maco, oh, just had to restart open office
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> CAPcap: use alt-tab to switch to it?
[00:47] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Can not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), time out
[00:47] <pH> if somone is interested in ruby + notify-osd notifications, please take a look at my lib: http://github.com/pedrofranceschi/notify-osd-ruby
[00:48] <zetheroo> I am trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop but the sound quality is pretty shabby ... I have tried to change the area I am recording to a smaller area and took the video quality down as well .. did not change anything ... anyone have an idea of how to get the audio to flow nicely?
[00:48] <CAPcap_> onetinsoldier, i could do that... i still want a button in my tray though....
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> CAPcap: roger
[00:48] <CAPcap_> Actually i cant
[00:49] <CAPcap_> just tried it, it doesnt come up as something open with alt tab
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> darn
[00:50] <AegNuddel> My hard disk is reporting an error
[00:50] <AegNuddel> I can't remember the correct thing after fsck
[00:50] <gdiz> hello everyone, I want to change permissions to a file hierarchy so that all files are read only and all directories allow for files to be added, but the directories themselves cannot be removed.  Is there a way to do that?
[00:50] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work. help??
[00:50] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: yeah, I can confirm it is broken.  You should ask the wine people.  Wine-dev is a blank package in the wine repos
[00:50] <Dunkirk> Mahal, Sounds like a name resolution problem. What's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:51] <AegNuddel> So that's what I need to know...
[00:51] <powersource> is my computer 32 or 64 bit? http://pastie.org/780340
[00:51] <mothersofinventi> hello! please, I need help with blender in karmic. it simply crashes, how can I fix it?
[00:51] <Mahal> Ill check
[00:52] <ak5> hello, is there ppa anyone knows of with wine with the acceptex patch ??
[00:52] <Dunkirk> powersource, The one you're already running linux on?
[00:53] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[00:53] <Mahal> Dunkirk: nameserver 192.168.1.1 - which is my router
[00:53] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Sounds right, but archive.ubuntu.com ought to come back as something other than 1.0.0.0...
[00:53] <CAPcap_> So can anyone help my with my Empathy problem?
[00:54] <Mahal> Dunkirk: yeah I also though that sounds a bit strange
[00:55] <Dunkirk> Mahal: It's a long shot, but it sounds like your upstream provider's DNS servers aren't resolving ubuntu.com names.
[00:55] <AegNuddel> think I git it
[00:55] <AegNuddel> got
[00:55] <Dunkirk> Mahal: How about this: `dig @208.67.220.220 archive.ubuntu.com'
[00:55] <AegNuddel> nm
[00:56] <Mahal> Dunkirk: hmmm where do you mean to put that? Im quite a newbie.
[00:56] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Open a terminal and paste that.
[00:56] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[00:57] <mazda01> ne1, please help me figure out how to make my usb install completely persistent. changes like /etc/fstab and /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hostname are not being saved.
[00:57] <Dunkirk> Mahal: It will resolve archive.ubuntu.com to an IP address by OpenDNS servers.
[00:57] <NoCode> What's the command to start the gnome network manager?
[00:57] <NoCode> In Jaunty.
[00:58] <mazda01> NoCode, i think it's nm-applet. well, that will start the network manager applet at least
[00:58] <NoCode> ohh yes it is!
[00:58] <^paradox^> i have a small image thats 336 x 192 pixels, the size of a business card. how do i print it to be that size instead of like twice that size which its doing now?
[00:58] <NoCode> Thanks
[00:58] <mati_croce> hi
[00:59] <Mahal> Dunkirk: 1 server found, got answer, and a list of 5 IPs
[00:59] <mati_croce> do anybody have problems whit audio inputs??
[00:59] <Dunkirk> Mahal: That's good. Use `nameserver 208.67.220.220' in your /etc/resolv.conf and try the update again.
[00:59] <mothersofinventi> anyone has an idea why blender is crashing? I have an output of "blender -d"...
[01:00] <Louiie> Can Sims2 be played on Ubuntu?
[01:00] <Pici> !appdb | Louiie
[01:00] <mazda01> Mahal, you can add this line to your /etc/network/interfaces file.  dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220    at the end of your interface info.
[01:01] <mazda01> Mahal, but also update your /etc/resolv.conf file also.
[01:01] <mazda01> ne1, please help me figure out how to make my usb install completely persistent. changes like /etc/fstab and /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hostname are not being saved.
[01:01] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Right. The update to /etc/network/interfaces will only take effect on reboot or a `/etc/init.d/networking restart'
[01:01] <sinster-helix147> any pro users of aircrack that can help me understand it?
[01:02] <mazda01> using a casper-rw image versus doing a full install so that I can save the usb stick from all the read/writes
[01:02] <courpse> Ahh.
[01:02] <courpse> I get: Bus error when ever i try to load vlc.
[01:02] <ChogyDan> mazda01: did you try pendrivelinux.com?
[01:02] <Dunkirk> sinster-helix147: Aircrack is probably a little hard to dissect on IRC. You're better off to ask a specific question, take it to a group for that, or just read their docs.
[01:02] <^paradox^> anyone? how i print my image actual size?
[01:02] <enzo3070> ciao
[01:03] <sinster-helix147> thanks
[01:03] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[01:03] <mazda01> ChogyDan, yeap. that's what I am using. my changes to fstab, interfaces, and hostname are not saved. i know that its probably because the /  filesystem is mounted to ram and it must not get saved back into the casper-rw image
[01:03] <Dunkirk> sheena1: Try running the program that's formatting the stick as `sudo <program'?
[01:03] <sheena1> thanks. i can try that
[01:03] <Louiie> If been told Sims2 doesn't work with Ubuntu, is this true?
[01:04] <^paradox^> i sized it to be 336 x 192 pixels. it should print that size, but its printing much larger
[01:04] <sheena1> Dunkirk: still no response :(
[01:04] <CAPcap_> Louiie, Unless you can get it to run in Wine or another windows emulating program, then you wont be able to uses Sims
[01:04] <psycho_oreos> Louiie, check for winedb for app compatibilities, normally it would be cedegar that would provide support
[01:05] <mothersofinventi> anyone could help me with blender?
[01:05] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Great! update manager got connected. Now, should I add another IP in there for the local norwegian package server, or should that one do?
[01:06] <max1234> is lubuntu gnome?
[01:06] <nils-> just upgraded to karmic, it's pretty amazing, especially the time it took for it to boot
[01:06] <^paradox^> someone must know how to print an image in actual size
[01:06] <Sanleis> nyone woul know why my sshd is closing connection so -> http://pastebin.com/m79676ba5?
[01:06] <Dunkirk> Mahal, that should do it for now, but you should follow mazda01's advice too.
[01:07] <^paradox^> help?
[01:07] <Counterspell> I just installed 9.10 and I'm locked out of root
[01:07] <Counterspell> How do I boot into single user mode?
[01:07] <ak5> Sat Jan 16 02:07:35 CET 2010
[01:07] <Counterspell> there is no Grub menu or option to open a Grub menu
[01:07] <mazda01> Mahal, that will ensure if your resolv.conf gets overwritten, that whenever that interface is used, you'll always use the opendns server
[01:08] <mothersofinventi> help! what's wrong with blender in karmic?
[01:08] <NoCode> Could someone tell me what the name of the gnome sound volume applet is?
[01:08] <CAPcap_> I need some help here with an issue I'm having with empathy. When the chat client is open, my contacts list (the main window of the program) doesnt have a button in my lower panel/tray. This causes me not to be able to switch to it quickly because i have to min all other open programs to get to it. also i cannot use alt tab to get to it. also it means once minimized i have no easy way of getting it back
[01:09] <hattoricaca> moyhersofinvent: runs fine here, whats the problem?
[01:09] <mothersofinventi> it simply crashes. but I use ubuntu studio.
[01:10] <gdiz> does anyone know of an id3 tagger that would do something like this:  get path of .mp3,  e.g. /path/artst/albm/file.mp3 and set comment field of id3 tag to /artst/albm/file.mp3
[01:10] <mothersofinventi> I have the output of "blender -d", may I paste it here? it's short.
[01:10] <userfriendly> hey. i'm trying to install something that needs java. i've set JAVA_HOME in the bashrc file. i've set it in the init.d script. but it's still telling me "Cannot locate Java Home". >.< i'm going bonkers. can someone please help me out?
[01:10] <^paradox^> a hand please? i really need to get this image done
[01:10] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventI: try at your on risk :D
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Blender 2.49 (sub 2) Build
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> argv[0] = blender-bin
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> argv[1] = -d
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Compiled with Python version 2.6.4.
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Color depth r 8 g 8 b 8
[01:11] <FloodBot2> mothersofinventi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <ambossarm> userfriendly: what says "echo $JAVA_HOME"
[01:11] <zetheroo>  I am trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop but the sound quality is pretty shabby ... I have tried to change the area I am recording to a smaller area and took the video quality down as well .. did not change anything ... anyone have an idea of how to get the audio to flow nicely?
[01:11] <kostkon> !paste > mothersofinventi
[01:11] <userfriendly> ambossarm: it says /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[01:11] <Mahal> mazda01: dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 - this in one line or am I supposed to split it in two lines?
[01:12] <Swian> anyone run ubuntu on a netbook NOT using the remix?
[01:12] <ambossarm> userfriendly: that means your java_home is set, seems to be another problem
[01:12] <James_-_> Ok I know this is bare bones basics here but I need a little help... I need to create a user and password that can NOT have any root access even with sudo.... I want this so that i can enable SWAT on my new SAMBA file/print server and us the web interface from within my local network to modify smb.conf file..... here is the suggestion from a tutorial " SWAT doesn't encrypt your login password. Because this could be a security concern in
[01:12] <James_-_>  a corporate environment you might want to create a Samba administrator user that has no root privileges "
[01:12] <CAPcap_> ^paradox^ what program are you using?
[01:12] <^paradox^> i have an image thats 336 x 192. it wont print to that size. instead it prints much larger. how can i make it print to business card size which is how big it really is?
[01:12] <userfriendly> yes. it's so set, it's not even funny anymore. >.<
[01:12] <userfriendly> i really can't explain that message.
[01:12] <^paradox^> i tried printing it with gimp larger than actual size
[01:12] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/357324/
[01:13] <^paradox^> i tried with gthumb larger than actual size
[01:13] <^paradox^> what do i do?
[01:13] <mazda01> Mahal, this is what my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like.  http://pastebin.com/f75e455e5
[01:13] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: i have more output invoking it with -d
[01:14] <CAPcap_> ^paradox^ PM
[01:14] <Mahal> mazda01: Ah I see. Miine only contained auto lo & iface lo inet loopback. Added your line now, thanks
[01:14] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: i see, it segfaults
[01:14] <userfriendly> google gives me 3.5 pages of results for that exact message. half of them in spanish or chinese, the other half suggesting various ways of setting JAVA_HOME. i've been through all of them. but the thing is still insisting that it "Cannot locate Java Home" >.<
[01:14] <mothersofinventi> how could I fix it?
[01:15] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: you can try reinstalling it, and maybe its deps too
[01:15] <Newky_> userfriendly: sorry i only logged in, are u tryin to install java
[01:15] <mothersofinventi> ok, gonna try.
[01:16] <userfriendly> no, i installed java. i'm trying to run something that requires it.
[01:16] <ambossarm> userfriendly: I never needed JAVA_HOME on this PC and I find no config, but  I think to remember that jvm/java.../bin was the right dir to send and I found PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ in bashrc, too
[01:16] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: be sure to purge the pkgs with --purge
[01:17] <userfriendly> i've also appended the bin dir to PATH, yes. and adding bin to JAVA_HOME doesn't seem to make any difference. :(
[01:17] <James_-_> can what i was asking be done? that is make a user that can't have any root access even with sudo ?
[01:17] <maco> James_-_: yes, simply dont put them in the admin group
[01:18] <ambossarm> james: does this user need a shell? if not, just use an invalid/false shell and you are on the secure side
[01:18] <meddy> wanna add ubuntu on my 80GB PATA HDD , Knowing that I have already win installed on my 640GB SATA drive
[01:18] <maco> James_-_: i believe the user admin setup thingy calls this simpy "desktop user" instead of "administrative user"
[01:18] <James_-_> mace ok using 'useradd' what is the syntax for that
[01:18] <James_-_> this is a non-GUI box
[01:18] <meddy> I tried b but ruined win7 b boot
[01:18] <meddy> Any idea?
[01:18] <adix> Hi. Anyone know stuff about sounds? When i boot to ubuntu and start playing a movie wich has DTS or DD passtrough the sound is great and surround works. but if i watch a video on youtube or play stuff that is not DD or DTS the sound gets broken and i have to reboot to get surround working again..
[01:18] <maco> James_-_: you could just add them as usual then double check in /etc/groups that theyre not on the admin line
[01:18] <hattoricaca> James_-_: if you add with useradd it won't be in admin group by default
[01:18] <James_-_> maco this is Ubuntu Server 9.10 running the latest SAMBA
[01:19] <Dunkirk> meddy: You can edit your /etc/grub/menu.lst file in Ubuntu to add a Windows stanza.
[01:20] <vbteage> May i ask a question regarding Virtualbox, or is this not the place for such?
[01:20] <meddy> Dunkirk: how to edit it specifically?
[01:21] <daftykins> vbteage: #vbox for help i believe
[01:21] <Dunkirk> meddy: I'd open a terminal, and type `nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:21] <Dunkirk> You can add lines like from here: http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/84/Add-windows-to-grub-menu
[01:21] <vbteage> daftykins-thanks
[01:21] <Dunkirk> meddy: Just add them at the end, and be sure to get the hard drive right.
[01:22] <meddy> Dunkirk: thanx
[01:22] <fiber> hello.... i have a remote computer with a TV card.... right now the cable company just moved to digital TV and I can't watch any stations... is there any way i can make the box simulate a digital box?
[01:22] <Scarra3> Is there a program that I can use for ubuntu that downloads internet tv
[01:22] <Dunkirk> meddy: There's also a tool called `update-grub' that may or may not do this for you.
[01:23] <Dunkirk> fiber: You'll need a digital tuner card now.
[01:23] <userfriendly> also, why is JAVA_HOME set in the init.d script, when it's already an existing environment variable?
[01:23] <userfriendly> isn't that kind of redundant?
[01:23] <fiber> Dunkirk: aw, that's a shame
[01:23] <Dunkirk> fiber: Or, if your cable box has an analog out, you can use it, but then you'll need an infrared repeater to have the computer change the channel like using a remote.
[01:23] <EmLeX> y0
[01:24] <harris> spankin new noob to ubuntu lookin for help with openVPN,cant figure out how to configure.already looked in forums
[01:24] <ambossarm> Does anyone know if ubuntu is planning on updating KVIrc in lucid?
[01:24] <Kurlon> Got a bt of an odd issue, installed nvidia-96, dkms builds a module... but any attempt to load it via modprobe results in 'Module not found' even when I specify a full path?
[01:24] <CAPcap_> I need some help here with an issue I'm having with empathy. When the chat client is open, my contacts list (the main window of the program) doesnt have a button in my lower panel/tray. This causes me not to be able to switch to it quickly because i have to min all other open programs to get to it. also i cannot use alt tab to get to it. also it means once minimized i have no easy way of getting it back
[01:24] <fiber> Dunkirk: right now it goes wall to computer... i think getting a new card would be less hassle... would you recommend any good digital cards with good linux compatibility?  it just needs one coax and one rca input
[01:25] <Dunkirk> fiber: I don't think you can go wrong with Hauppage cards. They're really well supported by Linux and the ivtv drivers.
[01:26] <fiber> Dunkirk: yea, that's what i'm using now... thanks for the tips
[01:28] <gdiz> hello everyone I have a couple samba shares that I am trying to modify so I can put in a create and directory mask...this might be a dumb question, but I set sharing via samba through nautilus but I don't see those shares in the smb.conf...should they not be there?
[01:29] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: you mean there is no icon at all in your tray?
[01:29] <harris> can i block users in empathy? on my settings on Yahoo I specified that anyone not on my friends list is blocked,yet when I signed in to empathy I got a mssg from someone that was sposed to be blocked
[01:29] <Counterspell> I am trying to mount an smb share that is open to everyone for read access. I am giving the command "mount -v -t cifs //$IP/$SHARE -r -o guest /mnt/windows" the command runs and no error message is produced however the filesystem is not mounted!
[01:29] <mazda01> Mahal, well, it didn't even contain anything about eth0 or wlan0 or anything but lo and the loopback interface? are you using network manager? i don;t use it because i hate it. i just always configure my interfaces file myself
[01:29] <CAPcap_> Correct ChogyDan
[01:30] <EmLeX> yeye
[01:30] <James_-_> before i do this can you all check my syntax ...  useradd -r USERNAME  to create a user not in a admin group WITHOUT a home dir...  then how would i use the passwd command to create a password for that account
[01:30] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: well, funny thing is that it doesn't even start for me, o well!
[01:31] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: hey, do any apps iconify to your bar?
[01:31] <EmLeX> xD
[01:31] <Dunkirk> James_-_: sudo passwd <newuser>
[01:31] <EmLeX> yep
[01:31] <EmLeX> yep
[01:32] <devunt> hello
[01:32] <James_-_> Dunkirk thanks... and i guess everything else was fine
[01:32] <devunt> good morning!
[01:32] <userfriendly> and why isn't JAVA_HOME set once i install either the JRE or the JDK?
[01:33] <CAPcap_> ChogyDan everything but empathy
[01:33] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: you could try adding a notification area to one of your panels, oh, nvm
[01:33] <k> any chinese
[01:34] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: try pidgin
[01:34] <Guest25380> i install bitdefender
[01:34] <CAPcap_> ok chogydan
[01:34] <Guest25380> but it starts to scan when i start the pc, how can i stop it
[01:35] <Guest25380> can anybody show me a solution
[01:35] <devunt> How can I make
[01:35] <EmLeX> sp whats up?
[01:36] <ambossarm> Guest25380: delete it from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:36] <Dunkirk> ambossarm: update-rc.d?
[01:37] <Guest25380> delete what?
[01:38] <userfriendly> ambossarm: could it be that the package is simply broken?
[01:38] <ambossarm> Dunkirk: no clue what you want to tell me with that, if you mean that rename from S to K would be better, ok.
[01:38] <ambossarm> userfriendly: I even do not know what you are trying to use, sure there could be an error, but not likely
[01:39] <Indy^> was pageant ever get ported for Linux like Putty did?
[01:40] <userfriendly> ambossarm: well... it's cassandra. going by this neat little how-to here: http://dustyreagan.com/installing-cassandra-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:40] <EmLeX> yeye
[01:43] <spridel> is there a way that i can repartition my drive without data loss, similar to install?
[01:43] <infid> i attached a 500gb external usb hdd to my ubuntu desktop. I can see it in nautilus but how do i access it from the command line?
[01:43] <pretender_> need a avi to iso script that can do bath job eg 5 avi;s one directory
[01:44] <daftykins> infid: type "mount" and see where it's mounted too
[01:44] <userfriendly> weird. simply installed the JRE now, got the current binary from the apache incubator website, and that is working.
[01:45] <jpzhu_> sudo mount to see its location
[01:45] <userfriendly> at least it doesn't throw any errors in my face.
[01:45] <sw5133> hi
[01:45] <ambossarm> userfriendly: seems like the right path would be /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.15/jre/
[01:46] <userfriendly> believe me, i've tried that :D
[01:46] <infid> daftykins: thanks
[01:46] <userfriendly> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.15/jre for the JRE, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.15 for the JDK, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.15/bin ... every single even remotely possible path...
[01:47] <ambossarm> userfriendly: if you had no JRE installed, how could you have jre as path? but if it works now - FINE ;)
[01:48] <userfriendly> i did have the JRE installed.
[01:48] <userfriendly> the JRE, the JDK, then both...
[01:48] <userfriendly> none of it worked with the debian package.
[01:48] <userfriendly> now with the current binary, it works just fine.
[01:49] <userfriendly> so i'm guessing the package is borked.
[01:49] <BillaBong-> i have a genius webcam eye 312 and this don't work
[01:49] <ambossarm> you have debian and ubuntu mixed and wonder that something does not work? It should be that they are incompatible due different changes...
[01:50] <userfriendly> please, just look at the URL
[01:50] <userfriendly> http://dustyreagan.com/installing-cassandra-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:50] <userfriendly> this was supposed to work on ubuntu. :)
[01:55] <cwheeler> does Ubuntu use metacity and if so where do I configure it?
[01:56] <max1234> all the wallpapers I download for lubuntu come up as unknown files, what package can I download to fix this?
[01:57] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!
[01:58] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!  I am burning a 9.04 livecd as we speak on another computer, to access the things by there...
[02:00] <ChogyDan> max1234: Im guessing lubuntu is in a different chan
[02:00] <ChogyDan> FAJ: you may have lost your data
[02:00] <FAJ> ChogyDan: !!! :|
[02:00] <FAJ> ChogyDan:  how can i check??? just through the other livecd???
[02:01] <ChogyDan> cwheeler: probably gconf somewhere, I would search the web to see if you can find specific examples.
[02:01] <max1234> ChogyDan, I can't find a lubuntu channel with anyone in it. do you know anywhere else I could find help?
[02:02] <ChogyDan> max1234: maybe an lxde specific channel?
[02:03] <ChogyDan> FAJ: Ive no idea, but there are always warning with partitioner errors.  If an error, you can loose everything.  I would bank on the livecd myself
[02:03] <andyl> hello
[02:03] <happy> hi andyl
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[02:03] <xztakdsb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <neil_d> when vlc says that FFMPEG is missing the "MPEG-4 Video" encoder what package should I install?
[02:04] <andyl> what are some modest machine specs for a system that will be used for software development mainly in java and python, and also run a windows Vm from time to time
[02:05] <happy> andyl: you can have a really old machine do everything except the VM
[02:05] <CHC> thats a hell of a lot of klines
[02:05] <happy> what version of windows?
[02:05] <CHC> oh i neglected to look up and see spamming
[02:05] <Flare-Laptop> !feedthetroll
[02:05] <happy> CHC: if they all came from the same source, it is not surprising
[02:05] <CHC> oh :P, i didn't see that either
[02:06] <neil_d> when vlc says that FFMPEG is missing the "MPEG-4 Video" encoder what package should I install?
[02:06] <geitenneuker> high
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> duckinator: They were everywhere
[02:06] <geitenneuker> i got a segway fault when i start AMSN
[02:06] <blakzet> hi
[02:06] <duckinator> Flare-Laptop: "they"?
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> duckinator: trolls
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> >.>
[02:07] <blakzet> someony help me to configure mac keyboard?
[02:07] <duckinator> heh
[02:07] <baddog> spambots, evven
[02:07] <baddog> even*
[02:07] <geitenneuker> mac donalds, mac keyboard?
[02:07] <baddog> McKeyboard
[02:07] <blakzet> apple keyboard
[02:07] <blakzet> ;D
[02:07]  * Flare-Laptop eats the keyboard
[02:07] <Flare-Laptop> Sorry I couldn't resist
[02:07] <blakzet> i want change a function key :(
[02:07] <happy> neil_d: try sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-51
[02:08] <geitenneuker> ok whats wrong witn your keyboard?
[02:08] <blakzet> i want change cmd key(right) for altgr
[02:08] <happy> neil_d: you here?
[02:10] <geitenneuker> just dissasemble the keyboard, connect the wires of the cmd key to the altgr key
[02:10] <geitenneuker> with a solder iron
[02:10] <neil_d> happy: yes still looking for it.
[02:10] <happy> neil_d: try sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-51
[02:10] <geitenneuker> or try to find a keyboard remapping tool
[02:10] <blakzet> geitenneuker: i tried with xmodmap and xev
[02:11] <geitenneuker> and?
[02:11] <blakzet> nothing
[02:11] <blakzet> xD
[02:11] <blakzet> cmd key (right) is special
[02:11] <razertek> anyone have trouble getting the proprietary drivers working for ati on lucid?
[02:11] <geitenneuker> it sends some garbage to the 8051
[02:12] <Flare-Laptop> !lucid | razertek
[02:12] <astrojp> I need to put something on my path using a symlink. How do I do this? Specifically, I need to put 'django-admin.py' on my system path.
[02:12] <neil_d> happy: apt-get said "Couldn't find package libavcodec-unstripped-51"
[02:12] <blakzet> if i pulse cmd right, xev dont give me the keycode, but i hold ctrl or alt, or cmd left and after pulse cmd right then xev appear keycode 116....
[02:12] <happy> then just install ffmpeg. It should work
[02:13] <happy> neil_d: ^
[02:13] <neil_d> neil_d: its appears to be libavcodec-unstripped-52
[02:16] <pilif12p> whats the apt-get for Java SE Development Kit 6u18 ?
[02:19] <pilif12p> unusually quiet...
[02:22] <evanandersen> hey does anyone know if it is possible to login to ubuntu with a script? I have an RFID reader that returns a value in a script, is it possible to configure my login to log me in when that value is printed from the script?
[02:23] <undecim> evanandersen: You would need to set up a pam module for that.
[02:23] <evanandersen> okay i research that
[02:23] <evanandersen> ty
[02:24] <undecim> evanandersen: I think there may be a PAM that runs a script, but I'm not sure.
[02:24] <evanandersen> well its actually a program
[02:24] <evanandersen> i compiled it from c+
[02:24] <pilif12p> !package Java SE Development Kit
[02:24] <kostkon> Fetching info for Java...
[02:24] <kostkon> Description not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Unstable:  Not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Testing:   Not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Stable:    Not available
[02:24] <FloodBot3> kostkon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <kostkon> Ubuntu Hardy:     Not available
[02:24] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!  I am burning a 9.04 livecd as we speak on another computer, to access the things by there...  I am into the livecd,,,, but i am not able to even mount t
[02:24] <kostkon> pilif12p, you activated one of my scripts
[02:25] <kostkon> i'll fix it
[02:25] <Flannel> kostkon: Please turn that (and any other scripts) off, thanks.
[02:25] <pilif12p> oh
[02:25] <kostkon> Flannel, yeap. no prob
[02:25] <pilif12p> Flannel: do you know the command for packages like that?
[02:25] <protojay> !package
[02:25] <protojay> !package
[02:26] <pilif12p> ah
[02:26] <Flannel> !info sun-java6-sdk | pilif12p
[02:26] <Flannel> oh, bother.
[02:27] <pilif12p> okay
[02:27] <Flannel> oh, right, jdk
[02:27] <Flannel> !info sun-java6-jdk | pilif12p
[02:27] <pilif12p> sun-java6-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files)
[02:27] <pilif12p> ah
[02:28] <FAJ> Flannel: i have some data here from dmesg.... but i can't copy and paste it....
[02:29] <evanandersen> @FAJ you can copy and paste into pastebin? you can select text in terminal then hit shit control c to copy it
[02:29] <FAJ> evanandersen: on a livecd, w/ no internet currently.
[02:30] <FAJ> mainly;  ext4-fs: error loading journal
[02:30] <evanandersen> have a usb?
[02:30] <FAJ> ah.
[02:30] <usr13> evanandersen: Or he can use pastebinit
[02:30] <evanandersen> no internet
[02:30] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i reallllly messed this up....
[02:30] <evanandersen> he has two computers
[02:30] <evanandersen> FAJ copy the text into a text file, copy text file to other comp over usb, pastebin it.
[02:31] <FAJ> evanandersen: right yah.
[02:31] <evanandersen> and your goal is to recover data right?
[02:31] <FAJ> evanandersen:  my goal is to make it work like it was before i stupidly decided to resize ext4 with non ext4 compatible livecd...
[02:32] <evanandersen> so you dont mind wiping it?
[02:32] <userfriendly> heh
[02:32] <GSF1200S> I cannot mount a drive I have no matter what I do
[02:32] <FAJ> evanandersen:  if WORSE comes to worse... :\  i would rather not...
[02:32] <GSF1200S> when I try to mount, it says its already mounted
[02:32] <GSF1200S> when i try to umount, it says it isnt mounted
[02:32] <usr13> GSF1200S: mount
[02:33] <evanandersen> GSF1200S: sudo mount -a
[02:33] <usr13> GSF1200S: mount | pastebinit
[02:33] <GSF1200S> I can hdparm -Tt the drive, but I cant mount it in any directory
[02:33] <GSF1200S> ok
[02:33] <evanandersen> so with a pam module I can bypass typing in my password at the login screen through validation with my RFID script?
[02:34] <osmosis> any tips for getting sound working on a dell studio xps?
[02:34] <nils-> GSF1200S: what kind of filesystem?
[02:34] <GSF1200S> no need to pastebin- it just says it cant mount because /dev/sda1 is already mounted or the directory is busy
[02:34] <FAJ> evanandersen: well flash drive isn't working; but wifi may be otb
[02:34] <GSF1200S> ext3 on the backup /dev/sda1
[02:34] <nils-> GSF1200S: does fsck work?
[02:35] <FAJ> pastebin.com/m2f25368d
[02:35] <FAJ> evanandersen: ^
[02:35] <evanandersen> undecim: so with a pam module i could bypass using a password to login
[02:35] <GSF1200S> nils: nope... device busy, mounted, in use by another program
[02:35] <GSF1200S> umount says its not mounted
[02:35] <GSF1200S> its not even IN fstab
[02:36] <undecim> evanandersen: I don't really know without some googling.
[02:36] <undecim> evanandersen: I just know that pam modules control log in and authentication.
[02:36] <evanandersen> undecim: oh sorry. thought u knew more about the project.
[02:37] <undecim> evanandersen: You would probably get more specific advice from the forums.
[02:37] <evanandersen> undecim: i already did. I'll give it some more time though
[02:38] <GSF1200S> brand new install, and it cant handle a backup drive
[02:38] <GSF1200S> nice
[02:38] <FAJ> evanandersen: ? anything?
[02:38] <evanandersen> FAJ: using google right now
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen:
[02:39] <evanandersen> FAJ: it's not looking good.....
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen: ok
[02:39] <Guiri> There's no community documentation page for SElinux. I don't know how to administer it. how can I set it up?
[02:39] <evanandersen> FAJ: are you comfortable downloading and compiling software?
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen: not particularly but i can
[02:39] <syn-ack> Guiri: why don't you check out apparmor instead as its the default MAC system in use on Ubuntu...
[02:40] <syn-ack> Guiri: if you prefer SElinux though the red hat docs ought to do fairly well...
[02:40] <Guiri> thanks
[02:41] <FAJ> evanandersen:  is there a way to reset the fs type??? b/c it seems like it is trying to load it as ext3....
[02:41] <syn-ack> Guiri: personally I find SElinux to be too much of a pain in the ass... AppArmor is much nicer, imo
[02:41] <evanandersen> FAJ: you're booted onto a live CD with EXT4 support now right?
[02:41] <FAJ> evanandersen: yes
[02:42] <evanandersen> FAJ: EXT3 is forwards compatible with EXT4.. you can upgrade an old EXT3 file system to EXT4. did you do this?
[02:42] <cmwslw> it seems to me like rsync is used a lot more than rdiff-backup
[02:42] <cmwslw> how can you prevent rsync from copying corrupt data and destroying uncorrupt data
[02:42] <syn-ack> Guiri: and to add it off, Many of the former Novell Developers on app armor are now Canonical employees and that particular project is by far more mature on Ubuntu than SEl is
[02:42] <cmwslw> like what happened to m.agno.lia
[02:43] <FAJ> evanandersen: yes, originally; and then i used an ibex disk to try and get the shrink/expand the ext4 fs....  it shrunk /  but then only errors; /home was not touched,,, so maybe luck there.
[02:43] <Guiri> Thanks. I haven't looked into it but I'll read the community docs on it
[02:43] <evanandersen> FAJ: ouch... never had any problems with gparted before
[02:43] <evanandersen> FAJ: this may help
[02:43] <evanandersen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188782&page=2
[02:43] <evanandersen> oops
[02:44] <evanandersen> FAJ: go to page 1
[02:44] <FAJ> evanandersen:  well the main problem was that i was trying to play with the ext4 fs on a gparted livecd that did not know ext4
[02:44] <FAJ> so maybe if i try to like retell it it is ext4....
[02:45] <evanandersen> hopefully their is a copy of the superblock that has not been corrupted somewhere in the filesystem that you can restore from
[02:45] <evanandersen> essintially your "book" has lost it's table of contents
[02:45] <FAJ> evanandersen:   how would i find that superblock
[02:46] <FAJ> evanandersen: thanks that makes sense :)  i like that analogy.... now to rewrite the toc?
[02:46] <evanandersen> FAJ: e2fsck -b 32768 -B 4096 /dev/sda1
[02:46] <evanandersen> replace the /dev/sda1 with ur drive path
[02:46] <FAJ> right kk
[02:46] <FAJ> just wanted to make sure those numbers were right.
[02:47] <blendmaster1024> what's the irc channel for ubuntu testing?
[02:47] <FAJ> evanandersen: e2fsck:  Invalid argument while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sda2
[02:47] <FAJ> BUT IT'S EXT4 :\ ?
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: something else is wrong... i wish I could see your screen
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: have you tried fsck?
[02:48] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i can't mount either of the partitions?
[02:48] <syn-ack> You don't mount a part to fsck it
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: fsck doesnt mount partitions
[02:48] <evanandersen> ninja'd
[02:49] <bobbytek2> if you download emails from a http server like hotmail, and it removes them, can you put them back?
[02:49] <FAJ> evanandersen: so how could i tell it to fsck...?
[02:49] <FAJ> evanandersen: normally fsck s have worked for me *crosses fingers***
[02:49] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: check u trash folder
[02:49] <evanandersen> like on hotmail.com
[02:49] <bobbytek2> evanandersen, thanks
[02:49] <FAJ> sudo fsck /dev/sda2:  Invalid argument while reading block 4227072
[02:50] <evanandersen> how long did it go before hitting that/ did anything else print to console?
[02:50] <FAJ> evanandersen:  /dev/sda2:  Invalid argument reading journal superblock
[02:50] <evanandersen> yeah
[02:50] <evanandersen> see the superblock is messed
[02:50] <FAJ> evanandersen: apart from fsck and e2fsck no.
[02:50] <FAJ> fsck.ext4:  Invalid argument while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sda2
[02:50] <FAJ> last line.
[02:50] <bobbytek2> sadness, not there
[02:50] <neil_d> trying to use vlc to capture a webcam (on local computer) :(  I can get video to a mpg/divx file but all attempts to get the audio also has failed.  I am using the Media->Streaming menu item.. can anyone help?
[02:51] <bobbytek2> You think contacting hotmail might help?
[02:51] <syn-ack> haha
[02:51] <syn-ack> bobbytek2: no chance
[02:51] <bobbytek2> :(
[02:51] <FAJ> evanandersen: aahhhh!  but ran fsck on /dev/sda3 (/home) and all is clean; soo  only one system messed!  good to know
[02:51] <FAJ> !
[02:51] <bobbytek2> I have them locally, but I want them on the server :(....
[02:51] <evanandersen> FAJ: yep
[02:52] <evanandersen> FAJ: at this point, if you just need to reinstall your system files
[02:52] <evanandersen> FAJ: unless you've installed a big list of programs, it may be easier to just reinstall. And then you will get a fresh ext4 installation of 9.10 :P
[02:53] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i would rather tryyyy to fix / first?  i know this may be more work, but i would rather try this, to know what is wrong. and i would stick to 9.04; not a big fan of 9.10, running it now... and welll some stuff is messed and i don't wanna dea lit.
[02:53] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: once their gone from hotmail
[02:53] <FAJ> evanandersen:  it's ironic b/c gparted sees the corrupted one as ext4... but just can't act oni t...
[02:54] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: there gone.... so keep them locally.  you could  compress the emails and then send it to yourself as an attachment if you wanted a backup to be on hotmail.com
[02:54] <evanandersen> FAJ: yeah
[02:54] <syn-ack> FAJ: try sudo fsck -r
[02:54] <FAJ> evanandersen:  so how can i force fsck to check it as ext4?  syn-ack ok
[02:55] <FAJ> syn-ack: same error
[02:55] <syn-ack> you don't force it as ext4 since the FS is NO ext4, its 3 merely mounted as 4
[02:55] <syn-ack> rather NOT
[02:55] <bobbytek2> evanandersen, aye, well thanks for the info!
[02:56] <FAJ> syn-ack: but it IS ext4
[02:56] <FAJ> lol
[02:56] <syn-ack> Did you format it as ext4?
[02:56] <syn-ack> or 3?
[02:56] <evanandersen> he upgraded from ext3
[02:56] <evanandersen> to ext4
[02:56] <syn-ack> it's not an upgrade
[02:56] <FAJ> evanandersen:  yes but this was a LONG time ago.
[02:56] <FAJ> idk if that makes a diff?
[02:57] <evanandersen> arent the old files left as they are and new files are written as EXT4?
[02:57] <syn-ack> not a proper one at least... all he did was mount the part as 3 so it is still, in fact a 3
[02:57] <syn-ack> no
[02:57] <evanandersen> idk much about the method
[02:57] <syn-ack> when you "upgrade" all you're doing is using the new driver... you still have the same FS underlying it
[02:57] <FAJ> syn-ack: i followed the tutorial from ubuntu i think to upgrade it.... oh....
[02:58] <evanandersen> http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21
[02:58] <syn-ack> for you to get a proper ext4 FS reformat it. ;)
[02:58] <evanandersen> thats what i said
[02:58] <syn-ack> aye, and I'm reinforcing it. :D
[02:58] <evanandersen> reinstall the system since you have ur home folder safe anyays
[02:58] <FAJ> ok well right now i would just rather not format anything but to just get it to work :D
[02:58] <syn-ack> FAJ: your chances of getting it to work right now are slim to none
[02:59] <syn-ack> Reformat it, man
[02:59] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  and how do i keep it from shutting off the display permanetly if i hit the internal/external monitor key?
[02:59] <syn-ack> FAJ: This is one of the bad parts to using the "upgraded" ext4 FS
[02:59] <FAJ> syn-ack: but /home is still fine... right?  like ok is 10.0 gb enough space for / ?
[03:00] <happy> does anyone know how to disable an upstart program without editing a script in /etc/init? I want to stop kdm from auto booting.
[03:00] <syn-ack> I don't see why not, I use 20 myself but I have a lot of the ubuntu dev tools and such installed
[03:00] <happy> All I have found is what looks like a quick hack
[03:01] <lucky> FAJ: depends how much software you use
[03:01] <lucky> FAJ: i'm something of a major power user and my / is 9 GB used
[03:01] <syn-ack> happy: man update-rc.d
[03:01] <FAJ> syn-ack: i just tried running the steps to upgrade it and then ran fsck... nothing haha
[03:01] <FAJ> darn
[03:02] <happy> syn-ack: it is actually a friend who is having the prob. and that is the first thing he tried
[03:02] <evanandersen> anyways
[03:02] <evanandersen> i gtg bye everyone! thanks for help. hope ur computer gets fixed FAJ
[03:02] <FAJ> syn-ack:  evanandersen:  anything ?
[03:02] <syn-ack> happy: theres also a curses app you can install I think it's called sysvconf or something, you'd have to look it up
[03:02] <happy> syn-ack: I gave him the same response... and all of the forums online have no idea
[03:03] <FAJ> thanks evanandersen
[03:03] <happy> syn-ack: sysv-rc-conf. that was the next thing I told him...
[03:03] <syn-ack> hdh
[03:03] <syn-ack> heh
[03:03] <FAJ> syn-ack:  ok if i format the / and then using gparted expand my /home/ will it all be okay?
[03:03] <happy> syn-ack: I later figured out I can not do it in 9.10. And that scares me :-\
[03:03] <FAJ> syn-ack: is there any way to make it look for hte superblock?
[03:03] <syn-ack> happy: hrm... odd
[03:04] <syn-ack> FAJ: your superblock is toast dude, you need to reinstall
[03:04] <FAJ> grar!!!
[03:04] <FAJ> ok
[03:04] <happy> syn-ack: I want you to try it. Then you will be scared that you can not do that simple thing either. My current way involves adding "and runlevel 5" to the script...
[03:05] <melwtech35> hello, how can i remove the excess virtual terminals that ubuntu has by default? i noticed their not in /etc/event.d/
[03:05] <syn-ack> happy: considering that debian doesnt use rc5 like red hat does duh. :P
[03:05] <TimothyA> anyone here knows where fail2ban keeps its list of banned IP's?
[03:06] <happy> syn-ack: I mean to disable it. I know it does not use rc5, that is the point
[03:06] <psycho_oreos> TimothyA, iptables
[03:06] <syn-ack> happy: debian uses rc2 as its multi-user gfx mode... hell I'd just kill it with service (gdm|kwin) stop
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy: it's temporary but it'd work till the next reboot at least
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy give me a sec, mmkay
[03:07] <happy> syn-ack: the point is to disable it at boot. I know how to stop a service ;-)
[03:07] <TimothyA> psycho_oreos; i didn't have iptables installed
[03:07] <melwtech35> TimothyA, are you sure about that its installed by default
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy:  which is why I said hold up. :P I'm checking lp right now
[03:08] <TimothyA> it wasn't installed
[03:08] <TimothyA> I just installed it 5 minutes ago
[03:08] <happy> syn-ack: lp?
[03:08] <quiche>  rfid
[03:08] <syn-ack> launchpad. :D
[03:08] <psycho_oreos> TimothyA, its installed, you need super user privileges to access it
[03:09] <TimothyA> ....well ,I just installed it 5 minutes ago as before that it wouldn't recognize the command
[03:09] <melwtech35> lol
[03:10] <melwtech35> where does 9.10 Karmic keep its Virtual terminals located? i noticed its not event.d/
[03:10] <Izinucs> How do I change the default paper size in Xsane?
[03:11] <TimothyA> odd, my IP isn't in the logs either...
[03:11] <TimothyA> now why is vsftpd dropping the connection on me on purpose...
[03:11] <happy> syn-ack: have I offically freaked you out? lol
[03:11] <syn-ack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305659 < check that out
[03:11] <syn-ack> happy: that is
[03:12] <happy> syn-ack: read it
[03:12] <syn-ack> happy: it should work with kubuntu too afaik..
[03:13] <happy> syn-ack: my hack is the cleanist...
[03:13] <syn-ack> happy: how about this one? http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322949
[03:13] <happy> syn-ack: but it still feels too hackish
[03:14] <syn-ack> happy: Welcome to linux. Home of The Classic Hacks(TM)
[03:14] <happy> syn-ack: trust me, I looked... I was doing support the same as you. and those freaked me out
[03:15] <happy> syn-ack: you are repeating exactly what I went through. In the same order...
[03:15] <syn-ack> happy: hrm... Sorry dude.
[03:16] <happy> syn-ack: no problem. Now it is your job to spread the pain to someone else. So they can spread it :-P
[03:16] <melwtech35> ok if anyone wanted to know the answer, 9.10 uses getty, disable excess virtual terminals by editing the config files in /etc/init/tty* put a # infront of the lines
[03:16] <syn-ack> melwtech35: linux has always used gettys
[03:17] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i expected to find the actual tty files in event.d/]
[03:17] <melwtech35> event.d/  *
[03:17] <syn-ack> melwtech35: and actually gettys go all the way back to sysv
[03:17] <melwtech35> cool
[03:17] <ae86-drifter_> hey can someone please tell me where i can find old versions of packages?
[03:17] <melwtech35> i should rephrase it then
[03:18] <melwtech35> disable excess virtual terminals by editing the tty files in /etc/init/ ;}
[03:18] <iflema> ae86-drifter_ http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:18] <syn-ack> happy: check this out: did you see this one? http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?26,36202
[03:19] <melwtech35> then reboot and use ps -ef | egrep 'tty[1-6]' to see if you have eradicated this pestilence from your system
[03:19] <ae86-drifter_> iflema, there are no results
[03:19] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you really don't want to go messing with that though since it WILL fsck up your minGetty's as well
[03:19] <syn-ack> which are your X terms
[03:19] <happy> syn-ack: no, but same info
[03:20] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i dont know what minGetty is but i assume X terms are on tty7
[03:20] <melwtech35> only because i press ctrl+alt f7 to get back to it
[03:20] <nils-> melwtech35: well it's X terminals, every time you open a console in X
[03:20] <syn-ack> you assume wrong... X terms are virtual terms in and of them selves
[03:20] <melwtech35> hmm
[03:21] <syn-ack> melwtech35: keep at least 3 of them and you should be fine
[03:21] <syn-ack> getty's that is
[03:21] <trism> happy: instead of runlevel whatever, I believe you can use "never", haven't really had a chance to mess with it yet myself though
[03:21] <melwtech35> well , worst case senario i can just reeddit the tty config files and reboot
[03:21] <happy> trism: how do you specify never?
[03:21] <trism> happy: just like the runlevels, you could throw in an "and never" at the end
[03:22] <happy> trism: no matter what, you need to edit a script. Which automatically clasifies it as a hack.
[03:22] <trism> happy: yeah I agree
[03:22] <nils-> editing a script is a hack?
[03:22] <happy> trism: that is the same hack, just different way of doing it
[03:23] <happy> nils-: inorder to control what boots up?
[03:23] <trism> happy: I do agree with you that start on/stop on should be separate from the scripts themselves
[03:24] <AegNuddel> ok
[03:24] <AegNuddel> swo I know about sudo and al
[03:24] <AegNuddel> all
[03:24] <happy> trism: thanks for the help. I was just freaked out when I had no idea how to do a simple administration task...
[03:24] <AegNuddel> so*
[03:24] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you can also lock certain user's gnome sessions down so they cant exit out of Gnome and to a VT
[03:24] <AegNuddel> but what if I need to access fie folders, and not terminal commands?
[03:25] <melwtech35> syn-ack, this laptop is a single user environment will i still run into that issue?
[03:25] <syn-ack> happy: I'm sorry those pages didn't do it how you wanted but yeah
[03:25] <happy> syn-ack: np.
[03:25] <syn-ack> melwtech35: yeah since you wont be able to generate a tty when you open an Xterm
[03:26] <trism> happy: didn't read all of the links in the discussion, but you can also rename the script to disable it, but then you can't start it manually (it won't run anything that doesn't end in .conf)
[03:26] <ae86-drifter_> iflema, ok i found the package i need, (libpoppler 0.11.0) i uninstalled libpoppler 0.12.0, but it removed all the dependencies, and when i installed libpoppler 0.11.0 it didnt add all the ghostscript printing packages etc
[03:26] <melwtech35> syn-ack, is that each terminal window or is it each instance? (dont know if this makes sense but i only open terminals within a tab)
[03:26] <syn-ack> happy: honestly if you're the only one using the system and no one else has access to the pc there really is no need to disable your getty's and shit l;ike that
[03:27] <syn-ack> each instance is a getty
[03:27] <happy> syn-ack: I am not disabling getty. I like getty
[03:27] <melwtech35> now im confused
[03:27] <ae86-drifter_> theres about 15 packages that it removed and i need them back for printing
[03:27] <melwtech35> heh
[03:27] <syn-ack> happy: wrong nick. :D
[03:27] <happy> syn-ack: I was talking about kdm. getty is my friend
[03:27] <AegNuddel> spa getty
[03:27] <melwtech35> ah now i get it
[03:28] <syn-ack> thats why I usually one help one person at a time since my multitasking skills, even after all these years sucks
[03:28] <syn-ack> only help one person, that is
[03:28] <melwtech35> i admit, i just want to slim down ubuntu so i started googling suggestions
[03:28] <Dracofodder> is there an easy way for me to get and install a newer version of flash than what came down in the repo? (10.0.42.34)  getting some weird stuff on some websites, and read one blog talking about a beta flash with fixes but I cannot get it to work installing manually.. and that didnt work for me
[03:28] <syn-ack> melwtech35: getty's are the least of your concerns on "sliming down" ubuntu
[03:29] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i read from the top of a page ;P
[03:29] <happy> melwtech35: there is no reason to ever disable getty. It is your friend. Or just there.
[03:29] <AegNuddel> I just need to put some files it says I am not permitted to enter
[03:29] <Zer> Howdy all. On AppArmor, I am having a problem that a program (in complain mode) shows original/path//null-40 ... I am guessing this is from forking?
[03:29] <syn-ack> Zer: sure is
[03:29] <melwtech35> happy, ok i will move onto the next thing....swapiness. lol
[03:30] <AegNuddel> can I "unlock" them somehow
[03:30] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:30] <Zer> How can I make it so AppArmor follows the program through the fork, still recognizing it as the original?
[03:30] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, did you try flash-nonfree
[03:30] <syn-ack> melwtech35: /dev/sda1              19G  4.1G   14G  24% / thats my primary system part. :P
[03:30] <binMonkey> my desktop takes 2 - 3 minutes to shutdown.  what log file do i look at to see what it's sticking on?
[03:30] <melwtech35> syn-ack, im guessing your not using ubuntu
[03:30] <syn-ack> Zer: it does it automatically
[03:30] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: no I did not, I thought the flashplugin-installer uninstalled that one by default.
[03:30] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I am.
[03:31] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, hmm, ive been having issues with flash also but the 64bit version plugin
[03:31] <syn-ack> Zer: you have auditd installed and running?
[03:31] <ae86-drifter_> even though i locked the old poppler version every time i reinstall ghostscript it reinstalled the new poppler
[03:31] <Zer> The profile name has changed to the original//null-40, though. And it is complaining about simple things which <abstractions/base> contain
[03:31] <Zer> auditd? No. I am typing 'less /var/log/messages' :)
[03:31] <melwtech35> syn-ack, do you have a nice wiki for how to effectively slim down ubuntu? =p
[03:31] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: mine is 64bit too.
[03:31] <melwtech35> ahhh
[03:31] <Zer> That said, I am also using it with authbind, which does odd things to library loading
[03:31] <Zer> (at least, I think it does :)
[03:32] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:32] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, sometimes i cant click on flash things in firefox! the mouse over activates but it doesnt do anything when i click
[03:32] <syn-ack> Zer: install auditd so it will output your aa mesages there, it makes it a ton easier to read
[03:32] <syn-ack> melwtech35: this is a fairly stock lucid install. ;)
[03:32] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: at least I think it is.  how to tell after its installed. Thats exactly the issues I have been having... and its not all the time, but when it starts I can't get it to do anything
[03:32] <melwtech35> two things i hate on PC: Flash and Java
[03:32] <Zer> syn-ack: I can see them in either case, though :) but, let me go look
[03:32] <syn-ack> Zer: you're still gonna have to give it access to some directories
[03:33] <syn-ack> regardless if they're in your abstractions
[03:33] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, i wish i could help, i haven't been able to solve the issues it gives me, but in firefox config:plugins should let you know whats isntalled
[03:33] <melwtech35> syn-ack, what do you think about editing sysctl to improve performance ?
[03:34] <AegNuddel> is there a way I can make my permissions higher so i can drag and drop files into a folder?
[03:34] <syn-ack> Zer: check out #ubuntu-hardened. thats the more appropriate place for aa talk. :D
[03:34] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: yea, beenthere... sigh.. I stumbled on this site talked about a beta, but coudlnt get it to work http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-install-flash-player-101-beta-2.html
[03:34] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:34] <Zer> Hmm, I'll look
[03:34] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you're not gonna gain all that much out of it
[03:34] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: I guess the quest is on now.
[03:34] <melwtech35> i tried the beta it made youtube work but thats about it
[03:34] <melwtech35> syn-ack, swappiness on a 4gb system?
[03:35] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I mean, it's a start but you're not gonna gain nearly what you're hoping for
[03:35] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i guess a long day of googling to gain 1.3% speed ;)
[03:36] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I mean, you have 4 gigs of ram already you're rarely going to touch swap as it unless you're running it as a server
[03:36] <melwtech35> well, i have 2 VB's running constantly
[03:36] <syn-ack> and even then if you're running a server, you're gonna need to run something large like a could SQL instances or something
[03:36] <syn-ack> ah well
[03:36] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:37] <melwtech35> syn-ack i see, but does ubuntu know not to touch swap unless it needs it? guessing it does
[03:38] <syn-ack> melwtech35: for the most part, I mean they do use some pretty generic settings, but for what they are they work very well
[03:38] <melwtech35> hmm ok
[03:38] <majorjunk0> need help plz, i just installed ubuntu using the windows installer and it cant finish confirming the install, i get the error "no root file system is defined, please correct this from the partitioning menu". IM me if you can help (im currently running in demo mode)
[03:39] <melwtech35> syn-ack, so on my quest to make ubuntu 9.10 work properly and be a little bit (a lot) slimmer, do you have any pointers on where to start? naturally i dont want to be recompiling the kernel with CPU tweaks and such =P
[03:39] <AegNuddel> majorjunk0, what partition size did you put/
[03:39] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:39] <majorjunk0> 20 gig
[03:39] <AegNuddel> hmm
[03:39] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you shouldnt have to do that anyway
[03:39] <AegNuddel> should be plenty
[03:39] <AegNuddel> I made the mistake of too small once
[03:40] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working...try3
[03:40] <syn-ack> melwtech35: tweak your swap, that's a good idea now that I know what you're running on it, and look into tweaking your fs ops
[03:40] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: what guides have you followed so far?
[03:40] <syn-ack> that'll speed you up some... let me think of some other things off the top of my head
[03:41] <syn-ack> well heck I cant think of anything else atm. :|
[03:41] <majorjunk0> aegnuddel, is there a way i can delete ubuntu from from hardrive and try agian using the USB install (im out of CDRs)
[03:41] <nils-> melwtech35: the thing is, it might be smarter to swap out programs for file cache on desktop systems
[03:41] <melwtech35> syn-ack, well i installed 9.10 karmic amd64 on a very recent HP laptop, wondering why it takes even 1 second to open firefox i would have hoped it would take not even a blink, (this is when load is like 8%)
[03:41] <yo2boy> there
[03:41] <nils-> melwtech35: sys.vm.swapiness controls that
[03:42] <ChogyDan> melwtech35: use chrome
[03:42] <syn-ack> OH
[03:42] <melwtech35> nils-, i see
[03:42] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  peepingtom had one i found on forum...i could use the adapter just fine before upgrading to 9.10...using ndiswrapper
[03:42] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: That will work.
[03:42] <AegNuddel> Does it not have an uninstaller as well?
[03:42] <melwtech35> nils-, individual swap allocation for higher memory apps
[03:42] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: so ndiswrapper is not working?
[03:42] <syn-ack> melwtech35: and another thing you can tweak is your readahead settings.,... the reason firefox takes a second to load is because the libs wernt precached by readahead
[03:43] <majorjunk0> aegnuddel, i haven't found one (haven
[03:43] <majorjunk0> 't looked to hard either though)
[03:43] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: Make an USB installation. When it came down to partitioning the drive, make a new one -- overwrite the old one.
[03:43] <syn-ack> melwtech35: not swap, memory.
[03:43] <melwtech35> ah
[03:43] <nils-> melwtech35: hmm well it depends on the app, apps can set their memory allocations not to be swapped out
[03:43] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  no...i get errors such as...rtl819xU:ERR!!! _rtl8192_up(): initialization is failed! from dmesg
[03:43] <majorjunk0> kinja-sheep, how do i make sure i only overwrite my ubuntu partion and not my windows?
[03:43] <melwtech35> ah
[03:44] <melwtech35> !readahead
[03:44] <nils-> syn-ack: hmm don't you mean prelinking?
[03:44] <melwtech35> !prelinking
[03:44] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: If you're using LiveCD Desktop CD/USB, you should get the GUI and obvious messages (ie Windows partition or NTFS partition).
[03:44] <syn-ack> nils-: you are correct. prelinking
[03:44] <syn-ack> melwtech35: google for "ubuntu sreadahead"
[03:45] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver
[03:45] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: Linux filesystems are usually in multiple partitions -- ext2,ext3 or ext4, and also swap.
[03:45] <nils-> or just buy an intel x25-m, my box boots in like 3 seconds
[03:45] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: have you tried...   reinstalling?  I don't know.  I could search google if you give me the device model
[03:45] <melwtech35> syn-ack, will do
[03:45] <majorjunk0> kinja, ok ill try to follow the usb steps
[03:45] <ChogyDan> syn-ack: I thought sreadahead is for boot
[03:45] <melwtech35> nils-, my laptop should be capable of faster boot i feel ubuntu does a lot of helper shit it doesn't really need to
[03:46] <syn-ack> nils-: c2d  64 here and I have it down to about 6 second boot
[03:46] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: Watch your language. Thanks. :o
[03:46] <syn-ack> ChogyDan: it is.
[03:46] <melwtech35> currently my boot is about 30 seconds
[03:46] <blakkheim> melwtech35: ubuntu isn't exactly the fastest, most optimized distro
[03:46] <syn-ack> well it's readahead anwya
[03:46] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  i have try every forum's advice i could find...seems many have same problem...dev from lsusb is "050d:805e Belkin Components"
[03:46] <nils-> melwtech35: that's unacceptable.
[03:46] <melwtech35> blakkheim, heh yeh but i wanted to install something that had lots of support because its a work laptop
[03:46] <nils-> melwtech35: don't know the specs for that laptop though
[03:46] <blakkheim> melwtech35: if you know what you're doing and need the most speed.. gentoo is the way
[03:47] <melwtech35> nils-, tell me about it, it threw me some fstab error after i did the latest update
[03:47] <syn-ack> nils-: and thats from booting from a HDD and not a SSD
[03:47] <nils-> melwtech35: hmm yeah I had that too
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: thats not true
[03:47] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: If you need a car analog, there are many fastest cars in the world and yet everybody are buying stock factory cars. :-)
[03:47] <nils-> syn-ack: yeah
[03:47] <melwtech35> blakkheim, i cant afford to spend hours stuffing round with gentoo
[03:47] <blakkheim> syn-ack: oh? what would you recommend then?
[03:47] <nils-> syn-ack: upstart really makes a difference
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: I use Ubuntu.
[03:47] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, hehe
[03:47] <blakkheim> syn-ack: lol ok
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: like I said, I have about a 6 second coldboot
[03:47] <melwtech35> nils-, its a core2duo 2.53ghz 4gigram
[03:48] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  i currently have the .inf file that i used before installed via ndiswrapper....rt2870.inf
[03:48] <syn-ack> blakkheim: on a c2d 2 GHz with 2 gigs ram and 100 gig hdd
[03:48] <syn-ack> blakkheim: running Lucid 64, btw
[03:48] <nils-> melwtech35: well I think you need a more analytical approach, meaning that you need to find out what exactly takes long when booting, otherwise you are just optimizing in the microsecond area
[03:49] <syn-ack> exactly
[03:49] <melwtech35> nils-, this is true
[03:49] <syn-ack> Thats where bootchart comes in handy
[03:49] <melwtech35> ahh
[03:49] <melwtech35> ok sounds like i have a lot to do
[03:49] <melwtech35> hehe
[03:49] <melwtech35> syn-ack, sreadahead or readahead
[03:50] <syn-ack> melwtech35: check them both out
[03:50] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: I don't use swap myself. If anything, you should make swap file instead of partition. Also, I have 2GB and it's using 28% of the memory now.
[03:50] <melwtech35> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-March/027726.html i guess ;.>
[03:50] <syn-ack> sreadahead is for precaching on boot and readahead is caching after boot
[03:50] <Zer> Huh. syn-ack, apparently once all the other errors were out of the way, the odd ones with the null profile went away as well. Very handy, auditd, as well
[03:50] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver
[03:50] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, interesting, so turning off swap may be benefitial
[03:50] <syn-ack> Zer: aye. :D
[03:51] <melwtech35> syn-ack, so ill install both ;D
[03:51] <Zer> though, much more useful in auditd -f than as a startup feature :) I can't imagine why anyone would want the latter
[03:51] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Not if you want to hibernate or suspend, you need a swap part
[03:51] <nils-> also under ram pressure kswapd can go nuts if there is no swap to draw from
[03:52] <melwtech35> ah i dont have kswapd is kde i guess
[03:52] <syn-ack> well, if you have a swap file its kswap doesnt care
[03:52] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Kernel swap
[03:52] <melwtech35> ah , i have no idea about that then :(
[03:52] <syn-ack> heh
[03:52] <syn-ack> kswapd is the kernels swap manager
[03:52] <melwtech35> i normally see "K" prefix and freak out thinking its kde4 or something
[03:53] <ae86-drifter_> anyone got the RADEON HD 5650 to work?
[03:53] <melwtech35> alright so, best to limit the swapiness but not to disable it completely
[03:53] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Thats correct
[03:53] <nils-> melwtech35: yeah if you really have issues with swapping swappiness is the thing to look at.
[03:54] <melwtech35> syn-ack, swapiness to 10 instead of 60
[03:54] <AegNuddel> Is there anyway to make the whole session su/
[03:54] <AegNuddel> su?
[03:54] <melwtech35> sudo su maybe
[03:54] <syn-ack> melwtech35: thats a start
[03:54] <kinja-sheep> AegNuddel: sudo -i
[03:54] <rhamptonii> sudo su works
[03:55] <AegNuddel> Will that change the window manager as well
[03:55] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:55] <syn-ack> no
[03:55] <syn-ack> bbl
[03:55] <blakkheim> most ubuntu people tell you never use root, never use su, use gksudo for graphical apps etc
[03:56] <AegNuddel> gksudo?
[03:56] <iflema> !su
[03:56] <melwtech35> AegNuddel, use gksudo for graphical apps
[03:56] <AegNuddel> There's a folder I need to copy data into
[03:56] <AegNuddel> it says so
[03:56] <Tw|sT> !gksudo
[03:56] <AegNuddel> for a game
[03:57] <AegNuddel> but the permissions are locked
[03:57] <kinja-sheep> AegNuddel: "gksudo nautilus" (And be careful). :(
[03:57] <melwtech35> nils-, how did you fix your fstab issue? i checked blkid against fstab and saw no anomolies
[03:57] <melwtech35> anomalies
[03:57] <hapt1K> hi all, whats a good stand alone .flv player ?
[03:58] <kinja-sheep> hapt1K: I don't know if there are a such thing as a standalone FLV player but many video player might have the capability to play it.  Also, any web browser too. :o
[03:58] <nils-> melwtech35: well I forgot to install mdadm but that has nothing to do with your problem probably ;)
[03:59] <ae86-drifter_> hapt1K, flvstreamer
[03:59] <ae86-drifter_> CLI only
[03:59] <melwtech35> ah my issue was DEF after a ubuntu update
[03:59] <hapt1K> kinja-sheep, i was thinking that too, but mplayer is trying to play it in my firefox and vlc seems to be unable to handle it
[03:59] <hapt1K> ae86-drifter_, i will try that, thank you
[03:59] <lollan> hello, I have to work on Windows at work so I need to have a good ssh client, is there only putty ?
[04:00] <kinja-sheep> lollan: putty +1
[04:00] <ae86-drifter_> lollan, puTTY is pretty good
[04:00] <hapt1K> putty is great
[04:00] <nils-> lollan: never heard of another...
[04:00] <ae86-drifter_> why would anyone bother competing ?
[04:01] <redfive> lollan: i supposed you could use cygwin or something, but putty is great in my opinion
[04:01] <kinja-sheep> Advancements toward greater good for mankind.
[04:01] <lollan> ae86-drifter_, kinja-sheep, hapt1k yes I know, just wanted yo check if there was another, it just seem weird that only one is good
[04:01] <ae86-drifter_> lollan,  or you could run a VM and use ssh
[04:01] <maverick140991> if i want to remove the help entry from the xfce start menu should i delete this line? <Filename>xfce4-help.desktop</Filename>
[04:01] <nils-> kinja-sheep++
[04:01] <lollan> ae86-drifter_, I'll probably do that ae86-drifter_  ^^
[04:01] <lollan> thanks !
[04:02] <kinja-sheep> lollan: Perhaps because anybody using Windows OS for life have little or no need for SSH. :'(
[04:02] <ae86-drifter_> could someone help me with this ATI grphics card please :(
[04:02] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver, i dont even have an AMD processor..
[04:03] <rhamptonii> anyone using a belkin wireless n usb adapter on 9.10?
[04:03] <ae86-drifter_> rhamptonii, what chipset has it got?
[04:03] <melwtech35> teraterm is good aswell but putty is best
[04:03] <jriehle87> how can i create a shortcut that acctualy works
[04:04] <jriehle87> actually*
[04:04] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, create launcher?
[04:04] <rhamptonii> ad86-drifter: rtl8192u
[04:04] <jriehle87> so ill google laucher :)
[04:04] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Have you read http://tinyurl.com/hu35m ?
[04:04] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, no, right click somewhere and click create launcer
[04:04] <lollan> yep kinja-sheep  I agree except that many companies use, source version system, and less gui version than console
[04:05] <lollan> by example
[04:05] <gsal> first timer, here...need help....updated netbook and now, after a restart I don't see the nice desktop with big icons...just a plain windows with no menus...but when I shut down...the other screen shows up momentarily, as if it was behind this boring one...how can I switch back to it?
[04:05] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_:  i did that
[04:05] <k0ala> yay got it finally!
[04:05] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_: and i still recieve no response it spins for a moment, and nothing.
[04:05] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, in the 'command' box, type the command u wish to issue...
[04:06] <k0ala> whats the difference between nick password and server password?
[04:06] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: yes but after the update...  : (  i had it working just fine before upgrade
[04:06] <kinja-sheep> gsal: Screenshot. I wanted to see the illusion of bored desktop.
[04:06] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, paste the command for the launcher
[04:06] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_:  ive made 2 of them , 1 was a shortcut 1 was a copy, copy i came into a problem with it not finding path, i made a shortcut and it spins to nothing :P
[04:06] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: Worked out-of-the-box in Jaunty, not after update to Karmic
[04:07] <jriehle87> oh in the panel?
[04:07] <gsal> just background and two icons...Home and Trash can.
[04:07] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, regardless of in the panel or not
[04:07] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: What make/model?
[04:07] <iflema> gsal whats the model/manu of ya netbook
[04:07] <jriehle87> oh i see
[04:07] <jriehle87> im sorry
[04:07] <jriehle87> i shoulda noticed that on my own, sorry for your time.
[04:08] <rhamptonii> belkin n wireless usb output from lsusb:  050d:805e Belkin Components
[04:08] <jumoit> hey...after creating a git user by the commands of "sudo adduser git" with the --disabled-password option under ubuntu, how should i switch to the user from another?
[04:08] <rhamptonii> model F5D8053
[04:08] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: "lshw -c network"
[04:08] <gsal> ASUS eeepc   1005
[04:09] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:*-network DISABLED
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        description: Wireless interface
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        physical id: 1
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        logical name: wlan0
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        serial: 00:e0:4c:81:92:00
[04:09] <FloodBot3> rhamptonii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[04:09] <melwtech35> nils-, ok fstab error mysteriously gone...
[04:09] <kinja-sheep> !pastebin | rhamptonii :)
[04:09] <nils-> melwtech35: another problem solved
[04:09] <rhamptonii> my bad
[04:09] <nils-> nils-++
[04:09] <melwtech35> hehe
[04:10] <melwtech35> nils-, still taking a while to boot, i managed to get a bootchart now though
[04:10] <osmosis> can someone help me getting ati proprietary drivers installed?
[04:10] <gsal> when people send me messages, my name show up first in their message...how do I do that?
[04:10] <kinja-sheep> !tab | gsal
[04:10] <jumoit> any ideas on that??
[04:11] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357369/
[04:11] <gsal> ubottu: thanks...got it
[04:11] <iflema> gsal does it work if you run from a live image? live cd/usb?
[04:11] <nils-> gsal: your irc client alerts you when your name is mentioned, same happens for people you mention
[04:11] <ae86-drifter_> ubottu, you suck
[04:11] <klappi> !turing
[04:11] <k0ala> !ubottu
[04:11] <gsal> iflema: it used to work...but it seems that every time I update, it goes away...eventually it comes back. I think
[04:11] <etfb> Just installed Karmic on a new second-hand desktop.  Resolution is stuck at 800x600.  It worked at 1280x1024 in the live CD.  What do I do to make Jockey find a better driver?
[04:12] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Is that all it is displaying?
[04:12] <gsal> iflema: it is almost as if it had something to do with my wireless...I know it does not make sense but it happens...
[04:13] <ae86-drifter_> after enabling the ATI driver, i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is , its a RADEON mobility HD 5650, on a intel core i3
[04:13] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  no there is the eth0 adapter also...only copied the part with wireless...you need to see all?
[04:13] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Yeah. Yes, just paste it all.
[04:14] <k0ala> is it possible to change desktop from gnome to kde without installing kubuntu ?
[04:14] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357372/
[04:14] <melwtech35> nils-, http://imagebin.org/80098 what do you think
[04:14] <gsal> k0ala: you mean simpy changing your window manager?
[04:14] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:15] <etfb> k0ala, yeah, I did that when I first started, after I realised how limited Gnome is.  Just install the KDE window manager.
[04:15] <nils-> melwtech35: that I need more screen real estate
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> gnome limited ???
[04:15] <melwtech35> nils-, heh
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> how?
[04:15] <k0ala> etfb, i like the gnome manager but i havent seen kde
[04:15] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Oh okay. I was under the impression that you took some chunk out of Wireless Interface.
[04:15] <k0ala> ae86-drifter_, is that all?
[04:15] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Very.  Lots of decisions are made "at the factory" and you don't get to configure them.
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, yep
[04:15] <katyl> Anyone know how to keep a specific user from showing on the GDM login screen on Karmic?
[04:15] <k0ala> gsal, yes
[04:16] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Belkin USB F5D8053 ?
[04:16] <melwtech35> nils-, i have a lovely image but no knowledge on how to interpret the results
[04:16] <k0ala> thanks people
[04:16] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: correct
[04:16] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, then when u login u can choose KDE session and set as default
[04:16] <etfb> k0ala, After you do it, you have to choose your preferred wm at startup.
[04:16] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: You're using ndiswrapper for that one?
[04:16] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Snap!
[04:16] <nils-> melwtech35: yeah I just realized that a bottle of wine will not help the analysis either
[04:16] <ae86-drifter_> hehe
[04:16] <k0ala> okay
[04:16] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: correct again
[04:17] <melwtech35> heh nils- dw i wll find someone who has a bigger screen and alcohol limit
[04:17] <etfb> How do I find out if my Intel graphics driver is supported in Karmic?
[04:17] <nils-> melwtech35: good luck ;)
[04:17] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: rt2870 : driver installed.....
[04:17] <ae86-drifter_> okay so should i assume that this ATI 5650 is unsupported on linux?
[04:17] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Hmm. "ndiswrapper -l" say anything?
[04:17] <melwtech35> ill ask kinja-sheep he\she seems smart; kinja-sheep are you able to help me interpret this and work out why my boot is so slow? http://imagebin.org/80098
[04:18] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: rt2870 : driver installed
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, what card is it?
[04:18] <k0ala> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop :(
[04:18] <ChogyDan> k0ala: try kubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, uhh try apt get install kubuntu :)
[04:18] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Intel 82945G/GZ
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> oh yeah.. what ChogyDan said
[04:19] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Not a very new machine, so you'd expect it would be supported.
[04:19] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'm reading it off ndiswrapper-wiki since I had no need for ndiswapper. You did "sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" too ?
[04:19] <ae86-drifter_> etfb,  sounds like an onboard card true?
[04:19] <k0ala> what do u think is the approx size of the download?
[04:19] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, yes.
[04:19] <gsal> I just updated and lost the nice remix desktop, just have background with trash and home icons...anybody know how to get back to the remix desktop?  it seems to be behind
[04:20] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes...i followed the same guide that i did before, only not working this time...seems others are having the same issue...not seen a solution yet
[04:20] <ae86-drifter_> i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945 and i965 series chipsets are supported
[04:21] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: I'm under the impression that you wanted a fast machine yet you have many silly things like usplash and xsplash (imo).
[04:21] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, default install
[04:21] <MasterShrek> so my friend has an ubuntu server set up, noticed that he was spamming and started looking at log files, hes seeing alot of attempts to log into his server as root (which he never does) wondering if anyone knows a way to stop this from happening, like say after a bunch of failed logins, to block the ip
[04:21] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Latest answers often can be found on launchpad. I'll try and search for one. You should try there too.
[04:21] <k0ala> are c-media audio driver alternates avilable for linux?i found on their website that they make it only for windows
[04:22] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: okay...looking now
[04:22] <nils-> MasterShrek: easiest solution: Change the ssh port
[04:22] <wwwbryan> Hey, I am having a problem in Ubuntu 9.10 (not the prev versions) and my monitor cannot seem to auto adjust the screen correctly. It keeps adjusting it the wrong way almost every time. For example, my monitor is supposed to position the screen to meet all four sides of the screen. But it does not do that correctly with Ubuntu 9.10. The previous version worked fine. Is there a fix for this? Will Ubuntu fix it or wil I have to wa
[04:22] <wwwbryan> it until 10.04 comes out?
[04:22] <MasterShrek> nils- interesting idea, thanks
[04:23] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, I know it works because it ran fine with the live CD.  Once I installed Ubuntu, it stopped working.
[04:23] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  new issue...was working on reinstalling ndiswrapper and when issued modprobe got:  FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[04:23] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, It's aggravating.  I have better things to do.
[04:24] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[04:24] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, yes.
[04:24] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[04:25] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, is it enabled in hardware drivers?
[04:25] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, jockey-gtk just says there are no proprietary drivers in use, but doesn't give me any options.
[04:26] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: It worked now?
[04:26] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  and how do i keep it from shutting off the display permanetly if i hit the internal/external monitor key?
[04:26] <minimec> etfb: There are no restricted (closed source) drivers for intel GPU
[04:26] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: i issued the complete command before...gave normal warning about .conf and then the fatal error
[04:26] <etfb> minimec, are there any FLOSS ones that work?
[04:27] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, is ntupdate reasonably safe to disable
[04:27] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357375/
[04:27] <etfb> minimec, (note: dictionary definition of "work" does not include a max resolution of 800x600)
[04:27] <FAJ> Ok I need some help now; i am to the point where I can get into my filesystem, buuuuut i need help now making it so i am able to access my home directory.. help?
[04:28] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'll be back in 10ish.
[04:28] <melwtech35> sorry ntpdate
[04:28] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: okay...i need a restart anyways
[04:28] <anonbadger> FAJ: why can't you?
[04:28] <FAJ> anonbadger: permissions stuff;   right now what is the command so i can create a user and put him in sudo
[04:28] <wwwbryan> Ok, I guess nobody will answer my question.
[04:28] <FAJ> ?
[04:29] <anonbadger> put him sudoers... I would have to look it up
[04:29] <paulmer> Sigh. I updated packages on a ubuntu machine and it wouldn't boot after that
[04:29] <FAJ> something like sudo useradd...
[04:29] <paulmer> got stuck at grub menu
[04:29] <paulmer> did ls / and saw initrd.old/kernel.old
[04:29] <minimec> etfb: If you have some problems with your GPU in combination with linux, i guess it would be good a try to install newer kernels from here (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/) in combination wuth the intel driver ppa (I do so for specific ati GPU). There is so much going on ... You cannot imagine... ;)
[04:29] <paulmer> but no /kernel
[04:30] <paulmer> Fail.
[04:30] <paulmer> Why didn't it install the new kernel properly?
[04:30] <etfb> minimec, I have a friend who works for IBM.  he tells me horror stories.  The Intel PPA sounds like a goer though.
[04:30] <FAJ> anonbadger: sorry
[04:30] <etfb> minimec, Except: it worked fine with the live CD.  Why would it fail when I install?
[04:30] <anonbadger> sorry for what?
[04:31] <minimec> etfb: That is in fact a good question...
[04:31] <etfb> minimec, Why thank you.  I thought so too.
[04:31] <FAJ> anonbadger: ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...
[04:31] <anonbadger> ah yes
[04:32] <anonbadger> ok well your old /home will be on a separate partition
[04:32] <anonbadger> so mount it and move it to your new /home
[04:32] <FAJ> anonbadger: soooo what to do to make it use it?
[04:32] <minimec> etfb: When you load the live CD... Why don't you simpy do a sudo X --configure and save the xorg.conf.new on a stick? ;)
[04:32] <herpez> hi. i have a hp tablet tx2000 and i installed ubuntu 9.10. I updated, reboot and now the screen is black
[04:32] <minimec> etfb: Like that you should have a working xorg.conf...
[04:33] <anonbadger> FAJ: do you want the config files in there too?
[04:33] <etfb> minimec, interesting idea.  But I thought it didn't use xorg.conf any more.
[04:33] <FAJ> anonbadger: i want it just as it was :)
[04:33] <FAJ> anonbadger: so yes i guess.
[04:33] <ae86-drifter_> anybody using the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 GPU
[04:33] <minimec> etfb: If you put one in /etc/X11/ it will be used. Besides... Would it would give you something to pastebin here ;)
[04:34] <Zer> Does anyone know a way to make an arbitrary-IP loopback interface?
[04:34] <Zer> I'd very much like to test something on a particular IP from the same machine
[04:35] <ae86-drifter_> Zer, edit the host file!
[04:35] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  it also doesn't wake up from sleep.
[04:35] <Zer> IP address not domain name :)
[04:35] <melwtech35> is it safe to apt-get remove xsplash
[04:35] <anonbadger> cp -PR /mountpoint/home/FAJ /home/FAJ
[04:36] <Zer> I mean, say I want IP 1.2.3.4 to be loopback as well...
[04:36] <FAJ> nope that's not it anonbadger... sorry
[04:36] <Zer> Not a domain name pointing to 127.0.0.1. I need to bind to it :)
[04:36] <anonbadger> FAJ what do you mean?
[04:36] <anonbadger> do you know how to get to the old /home?
[04:36] <etfb> minimec, OK, I'll give it a whirl.  It's on this machine, so I won't be back until I've rebooted again...
[04:37] <FAJ> anonbadger: i am in the computer... i came across this before.......... but i don't remember how to fix it.... it's it's like adduser, and then you tell it to keep the old directory... but i think permissions are messed toooo.'
[04:37] <anonbadger> oh
[04:37] <lucky> can anyone give me any advice on how likely it is ubuntu will support my machine? :(
[04:37] <anonbadger> sorry man I am not sure
[04:37] <minimec> etfb: no problem... remeber... you will have to <ctrl><alt>f1 and sudo stop gdm, to configure X
[04:37] <anonbadger> I haven't played with users
[04:38] <anonbadger> I'll check my book of tricks
[04:38] <ae86-drifter_> Zer, add 1.2.3.4 localhost
[04:38] <FAJ> Flannel: can you help me out?
[04:38] <Zer> Won't that just make localhost point to something on the Internet?
[04:38] <lucky> if i return this one, are there any lists of netbooks which are highly or fully compatible with ubuntu?
[04:39] <anonbadger> lucky doesn't the nebook come with xandros?
[04:40] <Zer> oooo
[04:40] <Zer> I fund a way
[04:40] <Zer> ifconfig lo add 1.2.3.4
[04:40] <lucky> anonbadger: no.
[04:40] <ae86-drifter_> Zer oh u probs need to do IP Aliasing
[04:40] <anonbadger> there is a netbook OS for the eeepc
[04:40] <anonbadger> based on xandros
[04:40] <herpez> please, help me to solve this, i guess the problem is this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/358643
[04:41] <lucky> anonbadger: it's not the eeepc heh
[04:41] <anonbadger> yeah ok nvm
[04:41] <Zer> Yep that looks right ae86. Thanks
[04:42] <anonbadger> lucky what have you tried?
[04:42] <anonbadger> to get ubuntu working?
[04:42] <lucky> anonbadger: ubuntu does start but like i said, it doesn't wake from sleep, i can't adjust screen brightness, bluetooth doesn't work... there's probably other problems but i haven't discovered them yet.
[04:43] <lucky> i don't know what to try, i've googled this extensively and it seems i'm the only person on the planet to have tried to put ubuntu on this machine.
[04:43] <FAJ> ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...
[04:43] <anonbadger> you might be the oly one
[04:44] <punto> hi.. which package provides 'asoundconf'?
[04:44] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i am back
[04:44] <lucky> anonbadger: yeah, great :(
[04:44] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Welcome back.
[04:45] <Vbitz> anyone know what is ipv6 format prefix 000 is
[04:45] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Take a look in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper -- It is complaining because the file does not have ".conf" at the end. Also, what is in that file?
[04:46] <anonbadger> punto: The program 'asoundconf' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[04:46] <anonbadger> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: You're in root mode. "aptitude search ndiswrapper" It displayed installed?
[04:46] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i have seen there .conf complaint before...the file has one line:  alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[04:46] <FAJ> ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...  I am trying to work in adduser to get a user to do this; but i don't remember the command line :( help?!
[04:47] <anonbadger> FAJ: have you asked ##linux ?
[04:47] <FAJ> anonbadger:  people in here normally know...
[04:47] <punto> anonbadger: but it doesn't come with alsa-utils
[04:47] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes all installed...
[04:47] <punto> anonbadger: root@charly:/espacio/mp3# dpkg -L alsa-utils | grep conf
[04:47] <punto> that gives me nothing
[04:48] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Add ".conf" will fix that "WARNING" message btw.
[04:49] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  it creates the .conf file when it does it...so there are ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper.conf with same info in that dir
[04:50] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  okay....modprobe came back clean this time...after complete ndiswrapper install
[04:50] <MrSun> Hi people, How many of you have used irc.everywherechat.com? Don't use it again. There are corrupt operators on it. I just got banned from their server support room by stating that one of the operators calling me a girl was insulting.
[04:50] <Coded1> i have an nvidia 6200 running on nvidia proprietary version 185, wanted to play with some desktop effects ... any suggestions?
[04:50] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  also changed .inf file from advice on a forum....ndiswrapper now shows device present...still not working
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: This is frustrating. "lsmod | grep ndis" display anything?
[04:51] <protojay> MrSun that is T
[04:51] <protojay> OT
[04:51] <anonbadger> punto: https://code.launchpad.net/~crimsun/asoundconf-ui/asoundconf-trunk
[04:51] <anonbadger> maybe?
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> protojay: The girl left.
[04:51] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  tell me about it...been at this for days....output:  ndiswrapper           185532  0
[04:52] <scunizi> Coded1: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:52] <FAJ> can someone please tell me how to create a new user in ubuntu???? one that will be in admin, and that i can use to copy preferences and whatnot to this user directory??? please help :(
[04:52] <FAJ> or how to specify a home directory for an existing user????
[04:52] <punto> funny
[04:53] <melwtech35> theres a small delay for my touchpad to move again after i type, how do i change this delay time (usually in xorg.conf but theres none on 9.10)
[04:53] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  still getting the firmware error in dmesg....   : (
[04:53] <Bacta> MrSun: The same could be said of most networks
[04:53] <Coded1> scunizi, ill give it a shot
[04:53] <Coded1> ty
[04:53] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: adduser or useradd (in CLI). There are GUI somewhere in System --> Admin --> ?
[04:54] <FAJ> kinja-sheep: can't get to gui
[04:54] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: What error?
[04:54] <anonbadger> man useradd
[04:54] <spersaud> melwtech35: X -configure as root
[04:54] <scunizi> Coded1: that's basically the tool to manipulate the effects
[04:54] <sje46> How do I make a command to mount my Windows partition?  I can't even find where it is.  It isn't in /media like it is after I mount it through the GUI
[04:54] <ChogyDan> FAJ: have you looked at the permissions?
[04:54] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i copied the .bin file over to /lib/firmware/RTL8192SU, but still get rtl819xU:ERR!!! _rtl8192_up(): initialization is failed!
[04:54] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo fdisk -l
[04:54] <sje46> thanks!
[04:55] <anonbadger> find the partition with ntfs format
[04:55] <spersaud> melwtech35: to generate one
[04:55] <FAJ> ChogyDan: kinda.... i am kinda all over the place... and nothing seems to be working...
[04:55] <FAJ> it just says no home directory is found.
[04:55] <melwtech35> spersaud, is there another way? i dont want to kill my gdm session
[04:55] <paulmer> Wow, ubuntu sucks.
[04:55] <ChogyDan> FAJ: did you use the same username?
[04:55] <paulmer> Updated a fresh install.
[04:55] <paulmer> Won't boot now
[04:55] <FAJ> ChogyDan: i can create a new username if needed...
[04:55] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  output from dmesg http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357385/
[04:55] <paulmer> "Failed to boot default entries"
[04:56] <spersaud> melwtech35: just go to runlevel 1, init 1
[04:56] <scunizi> FAJ: I missed most of this .. is this for the primary user? and on install did you make a seperate /home partition for that user?
[04:56] <paulmer> what a piece of junk.
[04:56] <paulmer> this is the second time it's done this
[04:56] <paulmer> I guess I'll just have to update the kernel by hand because ubuntu is too much of a piece of shit
[04:56] <paulmer> to do make install
[04:56] <FAJ> scunizi: no i didn't mean to; but yes it did; then i tried to change the primary user to the /home directory i wanted to,,, and now totally messed up....
[04:56] <scunizi> paulmer: probably a conflict with a piece of hardware..
[04:56] <Alan502> Good day, my samba stoped working... Some days ago i could still access my shared files on other computers but i don't know what did i touch that now i can only access those files if i boot from windows. Would someone help me?
[04:56] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'm reading this. You want to try it? http://tinyurl.com/yk282rq
[04:56] <paulmer> scunizi, it's a EEEpc
[04:56] <paulmer> nothing exotic....
[04:57] <paulmer> S
[04:57] <paulmer> Seriously frustrating
[04:57] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Are you sure it should be rtl819xU? Not rt2870sta?
[04:57] <paulmer> What a joke, no wonder Linux will never become popular. Can you imagine windows becoming non-functional after running Windows Update?
[04:57] <paulmer> No.
[04:57] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Wrong driver (or) file, perhaps?
[04:57] <scunizi> FAJ: so you created a seperate partition for a user(s).. all users live in the same partition (usually).. so how did you identify the new /home partition in /etc/fstab?
[04:58] <FAJ> scunizi: i tried something along the lines of sudo adduser louisold --home /home/louis --no-create-home... no luck :(
[04:58] <scunizi> FAJ: so louisold is a 2nd user on the system?
[04:59] <sje46> anonbadger, there are two "NTFS" decides
[04:59] <sje46> /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: just did sudo adduser louisolds --home /home/louis --no-create-home
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: and so it says it worked... should i try to log in to louisolds?
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: yes, second user(s)
[04:59] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. try to log into it
[05:00] <anonbadger> is sda2 quite large?
[05:00] <FAJ> scunizi: is it okay just to do a gdm resart?
[05:00] <anonbadger> well well mount sda2
[05:00] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes reading it now...thanks for the link
[05:00] <scunizi> FAJ: yep
[05:00] <FAJ> scunizi: it tells me that /home/louis does not appear to exist BUT I KNOW IT DOES! :\
[05:00] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Np. Keep me posted.
[05:00] <sje46> sda1 is the big one, anonbadger
[05:00] <FAJ> maybe permissions?
[05:00] <melwtech35> is speech-di in sysv for text to speech?
[05:01] <anonbadger> ok we'll mount the larger one
[05:01] <scunizi> FAJ: you trying to get louisolds to use the same location as louis?
[05:01] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo chown louisolds /home/louis; sudo chmod -R 644 /home/louis
[05:01] <Darkedge> I had the idea of writting a script to automaticly check for updates to World of Goo, Where would I start to write a script to check if a certain charactor on a webpage has changed and place the needed .DEB Package in the update manager?
[05:01] <FAJ> scunizi: i just want a user that has all the same prefs that i had before the clean install :)
[05:01] <anonbadger> I am not sure... but I think it would be sudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/
[05:02] <FAJ> scunizi: does that make sense?
[05:02] <microhaxo> Does ubuntu offer good SSD support for Intel x25 ssd's ?
[05:03] <scunizi> FAJ: what are you trying to log into as? louisolds? or louis?  and to chown it's "sudo chown louisolds:louisolds /home/louis
[05:03] <FAJ> scunizi: just tried louisolds.  i want to login as louie in the end.... so have louie as username; home directory of /home/louis
[05:03] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:04] <ChogyDan> paulmer: looks like a grub2 error
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: Me think "sudo useradd -d /home/louis -m louie"
[05:04] <paulmer> ChogyDan, why is grub2 in synaptic if it's causing errors
[05:04] <paulmer> Where is Q&A on this
[05:04] <paulmer> Epic fail.
[05:04] <FAJ> kinja-sheep: right now i am logged in as louie in tty0,,, log out of it firstA?
[05:04] <scunizi> FAJ: so you have 2 users .. louisolds & louie .. and ultimately you want louie to log in and own /home/louis? did I get that right?
[05:05] <paulmer> It's a 100 percent default install
[05:05] <FAJ> scunizi: yes'sir
[05:05] <paulmer> on very mainsteam hardware
[05:05] <paulmer> Ridiculous.
[05:05] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: Uh. I'm not sure. Better safe than sorry.
[05:05] <ChogyDan> paulmer: well, that's the curse of linux I suppose.  Whats your partition makeup?
[05:05] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit.
[05:05] <paulmer> ChogyDan, I made seperate partitions for /var, /boot and swap
[05:05] <paulmer> You know, having something to automatically update the kernel is stupid anyway..
[05:05] <scunizi> FAJ: and can you log in at this point as louie right now? .. regardless of the /home errors?
[05:06] <paulmer> I
[05:06] <ChogyDan> paulmer: hmmm, well, there is a bug against the separate boot partition: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?26834
[05:06] <paulmer> I haven't had an issue with gentoo
[05:06] <neil_d> I heed help!  using vlc for working a webcam.. if I useing "Media->Open Capture Device"  I can get both video and audio :)    but using "Media->Streaming" I can't get the audio to work (even with the same parameters) :(    why?
[05:06] <paulmer> in like 5 years
[05:06] <paulmer> ;)
[05:06] <FloodBot3> paulmer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <FAJ> scunizi: no; only into command line tty- where i am using / as home dir.
[05:06] <paulmer> Try out this distro that's supposed to be "easy" to use
[05:06] <paulmer> and it bricks out on me
[05:06] <paulmer> Funny.
[05:06] <paulmer> Very funny.
[05:06] <FloodBot3> paulmer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <bazhang> paulmer, here is not the place to rant
[05:06] <anonbadger> sje46: what happened?
[05:07] <sje46> anonbadger, it's...not working
[05:07] <sje46> it has a bunch of code
[05:07] <anonbadger> yeah
[05:07] <sje46> output*, but the partition still doesn't show up
[05:07] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. so with you logged in as louie in a tty can you mount the /home/louis partition (doesn't matter if you can actually access a file.. just mount the drive/partition)
[05:07] <paulmer> bazhang, grub sucks anyway.
[05:07] <paulmer> Is lilo in the pacakge thing
[05:07] <paulmer> whatever it's called on ubuntu
[05:08] <FAJ> scunizi: the /home partition is set as /home from the install.
[05:08] <scunizi> FAJ: can you rename the /home/louis to louie to match the user name you want to log in as?
[05:10] <ChogyDan> paulmer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/grub2/+bug/403408        that's the ubuntu bug that I found, sorry things didn't work out
[05:10] <FAJ> scunizi: i can try;...... shooot,,, see now i have a /home/louie a /home/louis/ a /home/test/ and a /home/louiOLD
[05:10] <scunizi> FAJ: which one has the files in it you want?
[05:10] <FAJ> scunizi: prettttty sure /home/louis
[05:10] <jjmartin> every time i login a terminal either by byobu or alt+crtl+F1 i get this http://pastebin.com/mf831822. how do i prevent that from being displayed
[05:11] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. sudo mv /home/louis /home/louie
[05:11] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/
[05:11] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit. ?
[05:11] <FAJ> scunizi: how can i be for sure...... should i first sudo mv /home/louie /homelouiebad?
[05:11] <sje46> anonbadger, no such directory
[05:12] <FAJ> ok just did what you said scunizi
[05:12] <sje46> usually it's /media/55435bunchofnumbers58493
[05:12] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit. In ubuntu 9.04 there was a file some where in /boot/grub/
[05:12] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. now sudo chmod louie:louie /home/louie
[05:12] <FAJ> scunizi:  so now have a /home/louie, louiebad, louie old, test
[05:12] <FAJ> scunizi:  kk
[05:13] <FAJ> scunizi:  i am logged in as louie currently... fyi? keep going?
[05:14] <scunizi> FAJ: now it's probably best to sudo restart now .. and log in as louie.. see if gui comes up and you have access to the files.
[05:14] <FAJ> scunizi: after running command above?
[05:14] <calliscope> hi
[05:14] <scunizi> yep..
[05:14] <scunizi> FAJ: you could try a startx or sudo service gdm start
[05:15] <FAJ> scunizi:  chmod ; invalid mode: 'louie:louie'
[05:15] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:15] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[05:15] <scunizi> FAJ: are  you logged in as louie or louis?
[05:15] <anonbadger> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/
[05:15] <FAJ> louie
[05:15] <scunizi> FAJ: and chmod failed?
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi: chmod: invalid mode:  'louie:louie'
[05:16] <JoshDreamland> Can anyone tell me where to get Flurry?
[05:16] <blakkheim> FAJ: i think you're looking for chown not chmod
[05:16] <scunizi> FAJ: my mistake.. sudo chown louie:louie /home/louie
[05:16] <scunizi> FAJ: forget chmod right now.
[05:16] <JoshDreamland> I tried downloading from the Ubuntu forum. Prompted for login, so I made an account. Permission denied.
[05:16] <scunizi> use chown
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi:  ahhh :)  thank you for your help sooo much, seriously
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi: chown worked
[05:17] <scunizi> FAJ: cool.. you could try startx and see what happens
[05:17] <sje46> anonbadger, wow, that worked!  I'm surprised
[05:17] <anonbadger> haha
[05:17] <anonbadger> I knew we would get it to work
[05:17] <JoshDreamland> People have been screaming about the Flurry screensaver being CPU intensive and even volatile, but I've run it before, a million years ago, and I'd like to run it again
[05:17] <FAJ> scunizi: even while logged into louie in tty- with / as ~ ??
[05:17] <anonbadger> sje46: wanna make a script?
[05:18] <scunizi> FAJ: you might need to restart.. better on a fresh slate so to speak
[05:18] <sje46> anonbadger, is it possible to mount it again, though?  Because usually it's /media/585943/
[05:18] <FAJ> scunizi: restart sounds good
[05:18] <sje46> anonbadger, well, I think I already have the command
[05:18] <anonbadger> yes just mkdir /media/585943
[05:18] <anonbadger> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/585943
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: so then try to logon as louie, correct?
[05:19] <scunizi> FAJ: yep
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: "your home directory is listed as : '/home/louis' but it does not appear to exist....
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: ok so now we need to make /home/louie the home directory, not home louis...
[05:20] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. rename it again.. sudo mv /home/louie /home/louis .. hopefully that will work
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> Can someone please mirror this for me?
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107327&d=1237772181
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> even just for five minutes
[05:20] <FAJ> scunizi: kk
[05:21] <FAJ> scunizi: kk restarting
[05:21] <neil_d> is there a command I can run to log-out gnome ?
[05:22] <FAJ> scunizi: same error.....
[05:22] <scunizi> neil_d: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop .. or maybe sudo service gdm stop
[05:23] <acclaimtech> what is up with having to go through all the registration bs?
[05:23] <scunizi> FAJ: do you have a second user that you can log into as and get the gui? one that actually has a functional /home
[05:23] <Darkedge> im kinda concerned my computer is not using all the power it can, I got a gig of RAM, I have Firefox and irssi open and its lagging.
[05:23] <Darkedge> Any ideas?
[05:23] <sje46> anonbadger, how do I, like, combine commands?  Because I have to do mkdir first
[05:23] <FAJ> scunizi: i could create one? :\
[05:24] <blakkheim> Darkedge: are you using ubuntu? are you using gnome/kde?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  flash can be a laggy  bit of work.
[05:24] <scunizi> FAJ: sure just don't do the --no-create-home thing again
[05:24] <Darkedge> blakkheim: GNOME, Ubuntu.
[05:24] <anonbadger> sudo mkdir /media/585943; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/585943
[05:24] <blakkheim> Darkedge: are you playing flash in firefox when it lags?
[05:24] <FAJ> scunizi: sooo what would the command be, i wanna get it right...
[05:24] <Darkedge> blakkheim: Yes.
[05:24] <scunizi> FAJ: I'll have to google
[05:24] <acclaimtech> anyone know how to get the 3d working in vmware workstation 7 on Karmic?
[05:25] <blakkheim> Darkedge: ok and what cpu do you have
[05:25] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo adduser tester --no-create-home
[05:25] <FAJ> ?
[05:25] <acclaimtech> all my guests have no 3d capability
[05:25] <Darkedge> blakkheim: I dell demison 2400 with an upgraded 512MB of RAM, I baught the RAM cause I thought it would solve the lag, but it feels like $50 was waste.
[05:25] <blakkheim> Darkedge: none of that answered the question i asked
[05:26] <Darkedge> blakkheim: you asked what CPU I have, I have a Dell Demison 2400..?
[05:26] <neil_d> scunizi: thanks trying those.
[05:26] <blakkheim> Darkedge: that's a computer model, not a cpu
[05:26] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:26] <scunizi> FAJ: forget the --no-create-home thing.. you want to have a functional home for a user
[05:26] <Alan502> it's just samba! help!!!
[05:26] <Darkedge> blakkheim: oh, how do I check my CPU?
[05:27] <blakkheim> Darkedge: grep name /proc/cpuinfo ; grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[05:27] <etfb> How do I create an xorg.conf file in Karmic, so I can override the stupid auto-detect settings with better ones?
[05:28] <Darkedge> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[05:28] <Darkedge> cpu MHz		: 2790.586
[05:28] <scunizi> FAJ: useradd mytest .... then passwd mytest
[05:28] <acclaimtech> etfb: do this
[05:28] <acclaimtech> sudo -i
[05:28] <blakkheim> Darkedge: not exactly the newest cpu, but it should play flash for sure. flash is proprietary and uses a lot of resources since it's very unoptimized
[05:28] <acclaimtech> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <blakkheim> Darkedge: if you aren't using flash does it lag?
[05:29] <FAJ> scunizi: sigghhh.
[05:29] <acclaimtech> adobe has problems with flash on linux
[05:29] <etfb> acclaimtech, I want to make one that has all the current auto-detected settings in it already, so I can find which one is wrong.
[05:29] <FAJ> scunizi: idk what i am doing.... i am messing this up.
[05:29] <scunizi> etfb: google xrandr for cli tools to change your configuration
[05:29] <lordmortis> how can i manually set a screen resolution in 9.10 ?
[05:30] <FAJ> scunizi: adduser testy then follow what it says?
[05:30] <lordmortis> (the display i'm using sends bad EDIDs)
[05:30] <acclaimtech> yes that will allow you to edit your current config of X
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> lordmortis: Use TwinView if possible. Perhaps via xorg.
[05:30] <scunizi> FAJ: naw.. what you're doing is creating a functional user and password for that user..
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> !fixres | lordmortis
[05:30] <lordmortis> i'll take a look, cheers
[05:30] <acclaimtech> make sure you copy your old config file to a safe place
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> lordmortis: No problem. Good luck.
[05:30] <scunizi> FAJ: yep.. but I thought the commnad was "useradd testy"
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi: same error as before....
[05:31] <acclaimtech> anyone in here good with vmware workstation running on a Karmic host?
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi: ok testy....
[05:31] <FAJ> scunizi,,, same error...
[05:31] <scunizi> FAJ: sudo useradd testy
[05:32] <kinja-sheep> tasty
[05:32] <FAJ> scunizi: it says it created a home directory /home/testy
[05:32] <scunizi> FAJ: cool.. now sudo passwd testy
[05:33] <FAJ> scunizi: but if/when i try to log in, it gives me that error about it not existing...
[05:33] <scunizi> FAJ: this was after creating a user and password for that user?
[05:34] <acclaimtech> There's too much confusion... I can't get no relief
[05:34] <FAJ> scunizi: yes....
[05:34] <acclaimtech> ;)
[05:34] <etfb> scunizi, Woohoo!  it works!
[05:34] <FAJ> scunizi: and then a load of other errors about this and that...
[05:34] <etfb> scunizi, Not exactly what I'd call "ready for the desktop" yet, but hell, it beats Vista...
[05:34] <Out_Cold> just got me a new eeepc XD
[05:35] <acclaimtech> etfb: oh I think this is 100 times better than 7 or vista
[05:35] <scunizi> FAJ: let's backtrack a little.. you originally had your /home in the same partition that housed your / (root)?  and then you created a new partition to move /home there?
[05:35] <acclaimtech> it does exactly what i tell it to
[05:35] <acclaimtech> and nothing more
[05:35] <scunizi> etfb: so xrandr worked?
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi:  no /home has always had it's own partition.
[05:35] <acclaimtech> and doesn't need rebooted 10 times a day or anything
[05:35] <scunizi> FAJ: did it move ?
[05:35] <tarski> how can i get gstreamer in firefox to stop asking if i want to search for a suitable plugin?
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi: home is owned by root..... with drw0r00r00
[05:35] <FAJ> scunizi: i made it bigger
[05:36] <etfb> scunizi, Yep.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[05:36] <scunizi> FAJ: ah.. perhaps the uuid for the partition changed.. try .. sudo blkid .. and then compair the uuid of the /home partition to what is listed in /etc/fstab for that same parititon with the /home setting..
[05:36] <osmosis> i got no microphones working with a Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audi
[05:36] <Out_Cold> tarski, install the suitable plugin from synaptic?
[05:37] <etfb> scunizi, Now rebooting to see if it sticks, but I'd say we're done here.  Thank you!
[05:37] <tarski> Out_Cold: no, there's no plugin i want to install for that codex i just want it to STOP prompting me
[05:37] <scunizi> etfb: cool.. xrandr is suppose to make things easier.. but.. when you're use to xorg it's somewhat a mystery
[05:37] <FAJ> scunizi: same....
[05:38] <JohnTeddy> What is the best music client to use with ubuntu 9.10?
[05:38] <FAJ> !best
[05:38] <scunizi> FAJ: when you made the drive bigger did you stretch it on the beginning side or the end of the partition.. (not sure that will tell us anything though)
[05:38] <JohnTeddy> What is the best music client to use with ubuntu 9.10 according to whoever answers this question?
[05:39] <FAJ> scunizi: stretched it on the beginning, stretched it towards the front of the drive...
[05:39] <syn-ack> JohnTeddy: Please reread the message.
[05:39] <scunizi> JohnTeddy: depends on what you like.. Rhythmbox, Amorak, songbird etc..
[05:39] <acclaimtech> What's the maximum color depth available in Karmic?
[05:39] <scunizi> FAJ: do you have an external HD that we can copy your data to?
[05:39] <JohnTeddy> I'll try amorak and songbird, thanks.
[05:39] <acclaimtech> is it 16.7 million colors?
[05:39] <FAJ> scunizi.... not on me right now... i have an internal with room....
[05:40] <scunizi> acclaimtech: might say 24 but it's really 32 bit.. with the appropriate drivers..
[05:40] <FAJ> /dev/sdb1
[05:40] <acclaimtech> how do I configure the nvidia X server driver to be 32 bit?
[05:40] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. I've forgotten .. where's the data living? /home/louie or /home/louis
[05:40] <FAJ> scunizi: but i am not sure which... yah idk...
[05:40] <FAJ> scunizi: louis
[05:40] <scunizi> acclaimtech: check in System>Admin>Hardware drivers and activate the nvidia driver.
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo mv /home/louis /media/Misc./home/louis
[05:41] <FAJ> ?
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi: should i pop in a livecd and do it from there?
[05:41] <scunizi> FAJ: try sudo ls /home/louis and see what that produces
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i cheat and use the mc file manager FAJ  :)
[05:41] <FAJ> scunizi:  yah that's the one.
[05:41] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: does that work on cli?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  of course. its a text based file manager
[05:42] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. and what is the other partition?  /media/?????
[05:42] <FAJ> Misc.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  i always use it for my 'root' file manager needs
[05:42] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo mv /home/louis /media/Misc./home/louis
[05:42] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: didn't know that
[05:42] <acclaimtech> scunizi: this is weird I have installed the latest nvidia driver downloaded from nivida's website (190) but it says in hardware drivers that 185 is activated
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  great for ssh ussage also. its a top 10 must have tool. :)
[05:42] <FAJ> scunizi: thatsa gonna take some time...
[05:42] <scunizi> FAJ: no.. sudo cp -R /home/louis /media/Misc./louis
[05:43] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: in the repos? if so sodo apt-get install mc?
[05:43] <ubuntu0o1> interestingly laborious way to reach the support channel
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yep
[05:43] <FAJ> scunizi:  ok added a v so i could watch and see how far it is....
[05:43] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: thanks!  new toy to pla with
[05:43] <acclaimtech> brb
[05:43] <FAJ> scunizi: will take some time...
[05:44] <KayAteChef> ubuntu0o1: what?
[05:44] <FAJ> scunizi: brb
[05:44] <scunizi> FAJ: ok..
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yep - it can do ssh/sftp/other things also
[05:44] <TangentCollision> hello
[05:44] <TangentCollision> I am having trouble with the alternate install from USB
[05:44] <Darkedge> blakkheim: uhm not really, it only lags when the website is a flash page, or it uses alot of flash objects...
[05:44] <ubuntu0o1> KayAteChef: reg this, confirm that,,,,
[05:44] <blakkheim> Darkedge: then there's your problem
[05:44] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: running on the remote server? or local and copy to remote?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yes to both :)
[05:45] <KayAteChef> oh on the web forum
[05:45] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: cool
[05:45] <KayAteChef> yeah I never log in
[05:45] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:45] <ubuntu0o1> i don*t remember these channels being overloaded with spam before - did something happen?
[05:45] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: gad.. it's been a while since I've used screen and "split" the screen to have a terminal on bottom and irssi on top :).. almost forgot how.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu0o1:   only seen some idiot dcc spammer here the last fe3w days
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  mc has a terminal built in. :)  i rarely split screen screen howver.
[05:46] <FAJ> scunizi:  will it copy in any order?
[05:46] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:46] <scunizi> FAJ: not that I'm aware of
[05:47] <FAJ> scunizi: well it's copying away,,, idk if this is the best way to do it... we will seee...
[05:48] <ubuntu0o1> shame about the spammers, at least the instructions are crystal clear (i think)
[05:48] <Darkedge> blakkheim: *coughsisthereanywaytostopthemasivelagcoughs*
[05:48] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:48] <blakkheim> Darkedge: don't use flash / steal the source code from adobe and GPL it / get a better cpu
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  how did you make the usb flash device bootable?
[05:49] <scunizi> FAJ: perhaps.. after it copies you'll have to .. sudo chown -R testy:testy /home/testy .. or similar syntax to make sure testy owns all the files.
[05:49] <Darkedge> blakkheim: -_-
[05:49] <TangentCollision> Dr_Willis: tried unetbootin and ubuntu's "USB installer (pendrivelinux.com) for 9.10"
[05:49] <blakkheim> Darkedge: it's proprietary software, there's nothing else you can do
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> its amazing  how much CPU flash can steal.
[05:49] <TangentCollision> neither of which work
[05:49] <FAJ> scunizi:  didn't we already try that....
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  ive seen others with similer issues.. but no idea on the fix. ive never had he issue.
[05:49] <TangentCollision> how did you manage to do it then?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  unetbootin worrked for me last i tried it with alternative installer.
[05:50] <Darkedge> blakkheim: -_- is there some alternitives to doing basic things like Youtube? >.>
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  or you could try making a grub2 boot usb that uses the iso file i guess
[05:50] <blakkheim> Darkedge: afraid not bro. you can look into gnash but it's pretty sucky
[05:50] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, did you make the usb while in the live cd?
[05:50] <scunizi> FAJ: then if you can login as testy and get a gui AND use the files as testy's own.. then you can either keep that account and delete the others or delete the others and then recreate the one you want.. copy the data back to the right user .. rinse and repeate
[05:50] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: no
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  google was working on its own openm video format i recall.
[05:50] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, try that
[05:50] <Darkedge> blakkheim: is it as slow? >.>
[05:50] <blakkheim> Darkedge: never tried it
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  and the divx guys have decent streaming features also
[05:51] <Darkedge> Dr_Willis: ok thanks :)
[05:51] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: there's not really much of a "liveCD" here, man
[05:51] <blakkheim> Darkedge: you can download every youtube video and then play it locally in mplayer, that shouldn't lag
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  so yes. there are alternatives to using flash video. LOADS of alternatives
[05:51] <TangentCollision> Out_Cold: and what EXACTLY would you accomplish by "making the USB in the liveCD"
[05:51] <ubuntu0o1> not sure what youre looking for, TangentCollision - any chance you could recap for us who recently joined?
[05:52] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: you were here :P
[05:52] <TangentCollision> The Alternate install requests the CD to be inserted, I've tried directing it to the USB device, but I get nothing, what should I do?
[05:52] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, while in the cd, you can make a casper (persistent) usb. I've tried without and couldn't do it until i was live
[05:52] <TangentCollision> so you say I should casper it?
[05:52] <TangentCollision> I can remake with casper
[05:53] <Out_Cold> TangentCollision, why not? that way you can customize
[05:53] <TangentCollision> ...?
[05:53] <FAJ> scunizi:  did that, not in.
[05:53] <ubuntu0o1> ok i got that, but what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <Out_Cold> i think you can install still
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin really needd a feature to make a casper-rw save file
[05:53] <scunizi> FAJ: done copying? and tried to get in? resulting in no gui?
[05:53] <TangentCollision> I'm trying to alternate install for minimal, ubuntu0o1
[05:53] <FAJ> scunizi: just went to another tty-
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> TangentCollision:  it could be the alternative installer cant handle it.. i dont recall using the alt installer on usb. I THINK i tried it once ages ago and it worked.. but its been at least  a year ago
[05:54] <scunizi> FAJ: you might need to reinstall ubuntu desktop.. not a full install.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: ok.. got mc loaded and can't seem to figure out how to exit.. hint?
[05:54] <FAJ> scunizi: but that's not what's wrong; it doesn't recognize my /home....
[05:54] <TangentCollision> that would be the only way I can use the alternate installer
[05:54] <TangentCollision> great
[05:54] <scunizi> FAJ: hang on.
[05:55] <TangentCollision> that's just amazing
[05:55] <acclaimtech> Scunizi: I rebuilt the nvidia driver but it still says only version 185 is able to be activated
[05:55] <ubuntu0o1> maybe i missed a meeting - but, alternate install on usb?
[05:55] <acclaimtech> should I revert back to version 185?
[05:55] <scunizi> acclaimtech: rebuilt with what? the binary direct from nvidia?
[05:56] <acclaimtech> yes
[05:56] <TangentCollision> only bloody ubuntu would make the one iso that caters to minimal install, but is limited by needing a CD
[05:56] <FAJ> scunizi:  what should the perms on /home be?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  hit the f key that corsponds to the 'edit; item at the bottom;
[05:56] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: or usb drive?
[05:56] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: one, I'm surprised you have the only ubuntu name in here. two, I'm trying to alt-install FROM usb TO usb
[05:56] <scunizi> acclaimtech: you can't have the ubuntu driver installed while you install the nvidia binary.. you have to remove the ubuntu supplied one and then reinstall the nvidia binary
[05:56] <aalex_> hello
[05:56] <acclaimtech> ah
[05:57] <Alan502> Someone help me get my samba back!
[05:57] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: it "requires" a cd drive
[05:57] <tarski> anyone know how i can get gstreamer to stop prompting me to install plugins for codex that I dont want to install?
[05:57] <aalex_> How long does it take for a package to appear in a PPA ?
[05:57] <scunizi> FAJ: not sure.. 755?
[05:57] <aalex_> on https://launchpad.net/~alexandre-quessy/+archive/sat
[05:57] <FAJ> scunizi:  and on /home/louis
[05:57] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: i used a usb drive to do a minimal install on a system
[05:57] <TangentCollision> 's what I'm trying to say
[05:57] <acclaimtech> ok I'll just remove all nvidia from synaptic and then install the 190
[05:57] <acclaimtech> brb
[05:57] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: what ISO?
[05:57] <tarski> anyone know how i can get gstreamer to stop prompting me to install plugins for codex that I dont want to install? It happens in firefox, and I want it to stop
[05:57] <ubuntu0o1> okey dokey, i did guess right then
[05:57] <ubuntu0o1> persistent usb install
[05:57] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[05:58] <TangentCollision> netboot doesn't come with wireless drivers
[05:58] <ubuntu0o1> from alternate iso
[05:58] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: lol, you didn't say anything about that
[05:58] <TangentCollision> blakkheim: the alternate ISO doesn't NEED wireless drivers, the information is all there
[05:58] <FAJ> scunizi: getting somewhere; that isn't showing up, now it's just ~/.dmrc
[05:58] <TangentCollision> it just won't access it because it's not on a CD-ROM
[05:58] <TangentCollision> which is absolutely infuriating
[05:59] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: F10 doesn't work.. F9 does.
[05:59] <scunizi> FAJ: /home/louis also 755 for the owner.. I would think
[05:59] <FAJ> scunizi: almost there.
[05:59] <FAJ> tty is now open in ~ not /
[06:00] <ubuntu0o1> why does it have to be the alternate iso, TangentCollision?
[06:00] <FAJ> scunizi: just chmodded ~/.dmrc to what they wanted
[06:00] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: because netboot has no wireless drivers
[06:00] <TangentCollision> therefore, netboot won't work
[06:00] <kinja-sheep> !alternative | ubuntu0o1
[06:00] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  no dice still...think i will give up for the night
[06:00] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: "a wider range of hardware" :o
[06:00] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. I really don't know what ~/.dmrc is.. so you're ahead of me there.
[06:00] <TangentCollision> !minimal
[06:01] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Sorry. :\
[06:01] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  still getting the firmware errors in the logs
[06:01] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: maybe because I'm running it in screen ??
[06:01] <djdarkman> hello, is this the place to ask Ubuntu Netbook questions?
[06:02] <FAJ> scunizi: so now i just need to have the /home/louis to be owned by louie,  which i am doing now with a chown -R
[06:02] <kinja-sheep> djdarkman: Yes. And welcome.
[06:02] <TangentCollision> djdarkman: UNR is horrible for netbooks ironically
[06:02] <blakkheim> TangentCollision: true
[06:02] <EmLeX> yeye
[06:02] <EmLeX> :)
[06:02] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. :)
[06:03] <ubuntu0o1> alternate, then minimal - and then wireless
[06:03] <FAJ> scunizi: well that may have been stupid, we will seee thouigh.
[06:03] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: got it.. had to unsplit screen and then use F9 to get to the menu and find exit
[06:03] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: that right there makes no sense
[06:04] <FAJ> scunizi: well half way there..... no errors this time, but it's not loading...
[06:04] <scunizi> FAJ: :(
[06:04] <castle`> hello, could someone help me with F2 + gconf-editor?  I made my home directory my desktop, but I wanted to change it back to Directory, and when I unchecked "desktop _is_ home directory" nothing changed
[06:04] <FAJ> scunizi: but its still copying all of my /home/ too, so it might be working uber hard...
[06:04] <ubuntu0o1> do we know why a live cd is of no use?
[06:05] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: because it's a live CD
[06:05] <ubuntu0o1> if the wifi drivers are on there?
[06:05] <TangentCollision> and wants a CD
[06:05] <scunizi> FAJ: yes.. while copying things move a LOT slower..
[06:05] <ubuntu0o1> ok
[06:05] <TangentCollision> if I had a CD, I could load the madwifi or ath5k driver
[06:06] <TangentCollision> and net install from there, but this is not the case
[06:06] <ubuntu0o1> so, persistent usb install of live cd
[06:06] <FAJ> scunizi: idk how can i check how much longer on the cp???
[06:06] <FAJ> i mean it's just cping away...
[06:07] <FAJ> onto .wine.... if that shows a difference.
[06:07] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: enlighten me, what the hell are you talking about?
[06:07] <scunizi> FAJ: nope.. there isn't a way as far as I know
[06:07] <castle`> hello, could someone help me with F2 + gconf-editor?  I made my home directory my desktop, but I wanted to change it back to Directory, and when I unchecked "desktop _is_ home directory" nothing changed
[06:07] <ubuntu0o1> im trying to work out what youre on about, but forget it
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> castle`:  you may need to logout/back in for that.  the 'ubuntu-tweak' tool also lets you change that and more
[06:08] <ubuntu0o1> look at backtrack install docs, you might work out what you need from there
[06:09] <castle`> Dr_Willis, i have tried logging in/out as well as rebooting, but I have not seen the ubuntu-tweak tool so I'll check it out
[06:09] <castle`> thanks
[06:09] <rcscomp> my ubuntu 9.10 system just crashed.  What logs would I look at to try and trace down the problem?
[06:09] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: I'm trying to install ubuntu from the livecd that was converted using unetbootin then copied onto the USB stick. The USB stick was booted flawlessly, but when I get to the third step "Detect and mount CD-ROM" it will not mount the non-existant CD-ROM or the USB stick I have right in front of me
[06:10] <TangentCollision> ubuntu0o1: that is "what [I'm] on about"
[06:10] <FAJ> scunizi:  done copying
[06:11] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. we just got done copying everything to a seperate partition.. right?
[06:11] <TangentCollision> is just everything about ubuntu completely arbitrary?
[06:11] <FAJ> scunizi: yes......  and when logging in... no errors, but it just doesn't work...
[06:11] <scunizi> FAJ: you gotta live cd there?
[06:11] <FAJ> mhmm
[06:12] <FAJ> scunizi: boot into it?
[06:12] <TangentCollision> then thank you all for reminding me why I stopped trying to use ubuntu, good bye
[06:13] <lgc> How is it that when I iconize a window it gets lost on the right of my panel?
[06:13] <ubuntu0o1> good luck with your next choice of distro then :D
[06:14] <scunizi> FAJ: what I'm thinking is to boot to it.. reinstall.. using the initial user setup as louie as a user name and do manual partitioning so you can avoid formatting the /home partition.. just make sure you name it or tag it as home during the install.. shouldn't take that long really.
[06:14] <ubuntu0o1> i wonder what the fateful "third step" was on his odyssey?
[06:14] <FAJ> scunizi: louis is in /home/louis
[06:14] <scunizi> FAJ: yea.. louis or louie.. your choice.. :)
[06:15] <FAJ> scunizi: no not that; what do i need; do i want it to match it as /home/louis or not?
[06:15] <FAJ> b/c if i say /home/louie it will make a new /home
[06:16] <lgc> Yo! Where can I tweak in order to avoid my iconized windows disappear on the right of the panel?
[06:16] <scunizi> FAJ: yes.. on install it will ask for the users name.. enter louis.. create a password.. choose manual partitioning so you can point the partitioner to the /home partition.. and set the / and /swap where they currently are.. DONT format /home for format the others..
[06:16] <xangua> ¿¿
[06:17] <FAJ> scunizi: i am in livecd; i mounted /home, can i delete all the other users?
[06:17] <scunizi> FAJ: sure
[06:17] <a2f> anyone have a newzbin invite? could reeeeeally use one :)
[06:21] <herpez> hi, on grub 2 i want to comment the old kernels and recovery, how can i do it?
[06:22] <FAJ> scunizi: working now.
[06:23] <scunizi> FAJ: GREAT
[06:23] <FAJ> scunizi: yah... if it works.  i was not expecting to do this at all....
[06:24] <FAJ> scunizi:  but now i know if i need to i have my /home backed up, so i can rm if i really need to
[06:24] <scunizi> FAJ: I was running out of ideas.. yep. you're right
[06:24] <dbm> oi oi
[06:24] <FAJ> scunizi: i had this problem before; there was an easier way around it; but i didn't remember what it was i did. and i was frustrated b/c it was like ppl on here who helped me fix it...
[06:25] <dbm> whats ya doing ing down town..
[06:25] <dbm> ubuntu rox
[06:25] <dbm> \m/
[06:25] <lucky> Ubuntu simply will not wake up from sleep on my Toshiba NB305 :(
[06:25] <dbm> 9.04 i mean.. 9.10 its crap
[06:25] <dbm> ;p
[06:26] <scunizi> dbm: please... you're trolling
[06:26] <ie> when is the next kernel
[06:26] <ie> april?
[06:27] <rww> ie: The next version of Ubuntu is coming out in April.
[06:28] <scunizi> ie: that doesn't mean that your version of ubuntu won't get a kernel upgrade between now and then..
[06:28] <ubuntu0o1> i cant even get a kernel after 24 to boot on my jaunty laptop
[06:28] <ie> heh I didint install 9.10 yet, I can wait 3 months i guess lol
[06:28] <scunizi> ie: but it won't be a huge leap..
[06:29] <DNS777> 9.10 rox :)
[06:30] <ie> you dont want an OS that rocks
[06:30] <nigtv> Hi, I was having trouble with the split command, I have tried a good number of arrangements, the latest 'split -b 1250 m file prefix" and keep getting either an "extra operand prefix" or "invalid bite size" or "cannot open m"
[06:31] <nigtv> also tried split --bytes=1250M (and a bunch of other arrangements of that) etc
[06:31] <DNS777> i dont want an system with an IE, i mean internet explorer lol
[06:31] <One``> Ugh, being re-directed to another channel is annoying. I didn't realise it wasn't the correct channel
[06:31] <DNS777> btw why you have this nick, ie?
[06:32] <One``> So here's my question (again). I am having difficulty accessing my computer via the Internet. I can't access it at all.. it's never been set up to be accessed before. I've set everything up in port forwarding. I disabled ufw which I don't think was on to begin with and had a look at iptables and everything looks friendly
[06:32] <Flannel> One``: How are you trying to access it?
[06:33] <One``> I am trying to access the Transmission web interface in a browser
[06:33] <One``> I also tried setting up SSH
[06:33] <FAJ> scunizi: kk restarting.
[06:33] <nigtv> hey i got it yay
[06:33] <One``> It all works with localhost.. but not on the net.
[06:34] <Flannel> One``: I'm not familiar with transmission, but if it's just a web interface, that's simple enough.  Can you access them from another computer within the LAN?
[06:34] <ie> DNS777 something that rocks, it will hurt you
[06:34] <ubuntu0o1> hehe, transmission web interface
[06:34] <ie> DNS777 because its two letters lol
[06:34] <One``> LAN is ok.
[06:34] <scunizi> FAJ: ? how did it go?
[06:34] <One``> I swear the port forwarding is correct.. but it doesn't seem to be working
[06:35] <FAJ> scunizi: logging in now...
[06:35] <FAJ> nope.
[06:35] <FAJ> same thing as last time...
[06:35] <Flannel> One``: You're using 22 and 80?  Try changing ssh to something else, and forwarding that.  Some ISPs block things from 22 and 80
[06:35] <scunizi> arg.. sorry I'm out of ideas FAJ .. I hope you run into someone that can help.. perhaps Flannel ? :)
[06:35] <One``> 9091 for transmission
[06:35] <FAJ> Flannel: can you help me out; i am able to log in, but nothing ever shows up?
[06:35] <scunizi> FAJ: I gotta go.. nighty night.. good luck
[06:36] <FAJ> thx scunizi
[06:36] <Diverdude> I am using thunderbird, and I want to start using evolution. How do I port my entire email databse from thunderbird to evolution?
[06:36] <Flannel> FAJ: What do you mean nothing shows up?
[06:36] <FAJ> Flannel: i get a background..... and nothing else loads...
[06:37] <Flannel> FAJ: Hm.  At GDM, under sessions, choose "safe gnome" or whatever it's called (is it still called that? heh)  Does that help?
[06:37] <Flannel> FAJ: does this affect all users or just you?
[06:37] <ubuntu0o1> what does transmissionbt forum say about the web interface? does it work again/still?
[06:37] <FAJ> Flannel: only one user
[06:38] <FAJ> Flannel: sigh no same thing; generic background; no loading.
[06:38] <Flannel> FAJ: Alright, well, since its only one user, you know its a configuration something or other.  You can certainly log in if you removed (by moving/renaming) the gnome config folders.
[06:39] <FAJ> Flannel: idk how to do that?  sorreee.
[06:40] <Flannel> FAJ: You'll need to log in to the terminal (ctrl-alt-f1, then log in) and use mv (mv source destination) to move some of your folders.  I'm... not really sure which ones.  But we can look once we're there.
[06:41] <Flannel> FAJ: `ls -al` while in your homedir will list things, they'll be .gnome* or maybe .g* I'm not really up to date on what config files gnome handles.  Someone else would be able to check with their own systems and tell you for su
[06:41] <Flannel> for sure
[06:42] <FAJ> Flannel: looks like connection refused. opened up failsafe terminal and fails to get connection.... should i try to create a new user....?  and then copy and paste stuff??? i have done that before.... can you walk me through that please?
[06:43] <Flannel> FAJ: Connection refused?  What?  You can't get a connection refused to a tty.  Is this remote or something?
[06:43] <FAJ> Flannel: no in failsafe terminal trying to run nautilus
[06:44] <Flannel> FAJ: We're not going to use a GUI to move those files.  We're going to drop into the terminal to do so.  Another user wouldn't be able to either.
[06:44] <FAJ> Flannel: ok in tty
[06:45] <FAJ> Flannel: i already have this whole home folder backed up...
[06:45] <Awesome3000> I have a problem with my sound volume reseting to zero
[06:45] <Flannel> FAJ: Alright, mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2bak; mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconfbak
[06:45] <Flannel> FAJ: then ctrl-alt-f7 and try logging in again
[06:45] <FAJ> will that then recreate the other ones?  ok will do
[06:46] <Flannel> FAJ: That will copy them to somewhere they won't be used
[06:46] <Flannel> FAJ: Gnome will recreate what it needs when it starts up and sees there's nothing there
[06:46] <FAJ> done
[06:47] <FAJ> ahhhh
[06:47] <FAJ> Flannel: that worked.... kinda... well like all my prefs are gone..... :\
[06:48] <Flannel> FAJ: Indeed.  We took that all away to make sure you could log in.  If you want now, you can pick through those old config files and try and figure out exactly what was causing the problem through process of elimination
[06:48] <FAJ> Flannel: there is nothing in the other files...
[06:50] <FAJ> Flannel: do you think it would be prudent to try to copy all from my backup into the new dirs and see what happens?
[06:50] <Flannel> FAJ: Which new dirs?
[06:50] <FAJ> into .gconf and .gnome2
[06:50] <chen> my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help?
[06:51] <FAJ> Flannel: like i want my theme etc back...
[06:52] <Flannel> FAJ: If you want to try it, sure, go ahead.  You'll eventually find the thing that caused it to break, and next time you'll have to remember to not add that back in
[06:52] <FAJ> Flannel: do you know where stuff like my prefs would be saved...
[06:52] <Flannel> FAJ: Those two folders, that's as specific as I know.
[06:52] <Flannel> Also, it really depends on what kind of preferences
[06:53] <chen> my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help please?
[06:53] <tarski> is there a way using synaptic to install older versions of apps in the repository
[06:54] <usrv> Anyone: I am having issues with a 9.10 server install. Details: raided home directory with root and swap on a separate drive. When I boot I get a black screen with a blinking prompt. I think it's a grub issue because of the raid but don't know how to fix it.
[06:56] <chen> Flannel: my panals keep disappearing and when they reappear my alltray minimizied applications are gone. any help please?
[06:59] <FAJ> Flannel: now whenever i try to do stuff, i am told permission denied
[07:00] <FAJ> like put a folder on my desktop.
[07:00] <dahlia> how can I disable pulseaudio and still use gnome?
[07:02] <kinja-sheep> dahlia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[07:04] <FAJ> HELP
[07:05] <Colloguy> how can I play an HDVD-9 disk on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <geitenneuker> heh ubuntu devs. please remove this daily update crap xupdate xapi
[07:05] <Colloguy> apparently some wierd format in-between DVD and HD-DVD ...
[07:05] <geitenneuker> nobody needs a daily upgrade check, weekly is OK
[07:06] <geitenneuker> and start this crappy update-xapi crap with priority 19, not with 0 its a cpu hog crap
[07:08] <petsounds> geitenneuker, just open software sources>updates tab and change automatic updates to weekly.
[07:08] <geitenneuker> petsounds: it should be default weekly
[07:08] <geitenneuker> i know how to change this stuff
[07:09] <geitenneuker> but my friends get mad with such a setting
[07:10] <geitenneuker> the script who calls update-xapi should be started with nice 19 update-xapi whatever
[07:10] <ubuntu0o1> or just disable auto check, it'll still go off the scale whenever it feels like it
[07:10] <Coded1> I am getting wifi on my ubuntu 9.10 box but want to share it with multiple computers via ethernet to a small switch.  I was reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and it has a vague explanation in telling me which connection (LAN/WAN) you have to set to "Shared to other computers"
[07:11] <geitenneuker> ubuntu: i solve the problems by fixing it. i think the ubuntu developers should know about this crappy xapi issue
[07:11] <geitenneuker> it makes a 1.8ghz laptop busy for 10 minutes
[07:11] <ubuntu0o1> amen to that
[07:12] <geitenneuker> yeah amen
[07:13] <geitenneuker> god praise the dog
[07:13] <geitenneuker> if i said that in ireland, i made a major felony
[07:15] <geitenneuker> is there a setting to increase the file cache?
[07:16] <Awesome3000> geitenneuker  Do you mean SWAP
[07:17] <geitenneuker> no
[07:17] <geitenneuker> file cache
[07:17] <geitenneuker> swap is virtual memory
[07:17] <geitenneuker> i know how to use mkswap
[07:18] <Awesome3000> What do you mean by file cache
[07:18] <geitenneuker> exactly what it explains
[07:18] <geitenneuker> caching files into the ram
[07:19] <Awesome3000> Sorry i don't understand
[07:19] <geitenneuker> is there such a volatile setting to reserve more memory for the file caching?
[07:21] <Coded1> geitenneuker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182764
[07:22] <settntrenz> upgrade to karmic broke vmware server 2.0.1, I'm currently downloading 2.0.2. To upgrade should I uninstall old version first?
[07:23] <geitenneuker> ah
[07:23] <geitenneuker> i do not need a ramdisk
[07:24] <anto9us> geitenneuker, /etc/sysctl.conf add vm.swappiness=0
[07:24] <zetheroo> does anyone know why gtk-recordmydesktop is not keeping the audio synced with the video?
[07:24] <geitenneuker> yeah and if the server is out of mem, it crashes
[07:25] <geitenneuker> no thank
[07:25] <Coded1> geitenneuker, you can basically just copy straight to /dev/shm and it will automatically expand to %50 of your physical ram, if thats what you wanted to do.
[07:25] <anto9us> The number at the end of this line can be between 0 and 100. At 100 the Linux kernel will prefer to find inactive pages and swap them out, while value 0 gives something close to the old behavior where applications that wanted memory could shrink the cache to a tiny fraction of RAM.
[07:28] <geitenneuker> that helps a lot thanks
[07:28] <anto9us> geitenneuker, cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[07:28] <zetheroo> does anyone know why gtk-recordmydesktop is not keeping the audio synced with the video?
[07:29] <anto9us> geirha, sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=(value)
[07:29] <anto9us> oops, geitenneuker
[07:29] <MrBrotato> I am confused... I want to install Ubuntu but when I boot the CD and choose install, it just boots the live version exactly as if I chose to run it without making changes...
[07:29] <tkmr> zetheroo: your comp can't handle it? =o what's your resource usage like?
[07:30] <MrBrotato> 1.5ghz 256mb ram... I wasn't sure if it could handle it or not... runs XP fine, just wanted to try somethign different.
[07:31] <zetheroo> tkmr: Intel C2D 2.5GHZ, 3GB RAM, 100GB 7200 RPM HDD .... I doubt my computer is without capabilities to handle something this simple ... my resource usage is so little ....
[07:31] <geitenneuker> i used tmpfs the temp in shared memory for video editing, now it works a lot faster with just 12gb ram
[07:32] <Bacta> Is Ubuntu a good distro to set a kid up with?
[07:32] <zetheroo> Bacta: sure
[07:32] <Bacta> sans sugar?
[07:33] <geitenneuker> maybe someone create a min and maxsize of this feature
[07:35] <IP-v6> !panel
[07:35] <IP-v6> !gnome-panel
[07:36] <r4ban> i can't play sound on my AC'97 onboard audio, here's the alsa information script report: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=082577b6bbcce5e66fbcb3e525a862d79b84e810
[07:37] <r4ban> it seems my video capture board is the culprit, but i don't know how to fix this
[07:39] <SikEnCide> hm
[07:41] <IP-v6> is it possible to change font of  only second panel which i have added ?
[07:41] <xjolynnx> Is there a way to disable my internal wlan card, and only have an external wlan adapter enabled?
[07:43] <wolter> Hi, will somebody help me get my touchpad scroll horizontally and not vertically when I want it to?
[07:44] <wolter> It has 2 "sliders"
[07:44] <wolter> but the h one scrolls vertically too
[07:44] <wolter> which is... very annoying
[07:44] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, sudo ifconfig deviceid down may help you
[07:44] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, eg. sudo ifconfing wlan0 down
[07:46] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Use a finger at a time.
[07:46] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no, it used to work. But I think I did some tweaking where it was unneeded and now it doesn't work well
[07:46] <wolter> kinja-sheep, but I don't remember the file I modifies
[07:46] <wolter> d
[07:47] <wolter> it was some X11 thing
[07:47] <wolter> where the synaptics where loaded and stuff
[07:47] <mrselfpwn> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <wolter> no
[07:47] <mrselfpwn> hal?
[07:47] <wolter> another one.. far deeper into my system's folders
[07:47] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Hmm. It worked fine for me here. Undo the tweaking, maybe.
[07:48] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yeah, but I don't remember which file I changed
[07:48] <kinja-sheep> (If you can!)
[07:48] <wolter> haha
[07:48] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Try "history"
[07:48] <wolter> Well, its been weeks since I did it
[07:48] <wolter> hm not there
[07:48] <wolter> are there logs of history?
[07:48] <mrselfpwn> wolter: /etc/hal/fdi?
[07:48] <wolter> nah
[07:48] <xjolynnx> IP-v6 t hat does it. how then do i start it back up? for future reference.
[07:48] <xjolynnx> *that
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Command history, yes. I guess you don't have your enabled. I have mine set to 50000, I think. :o
[07:49] <mrselfpwn> wolter: you do know about synclient and man synaptics right?
[07:49] <IP-v6> xjolynnx, eg. sudo ifconfing wlan0 up
[07:49] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yes I have it enabled, but I guess I don't have it set to remember that much lines
[07:49] <wolter> or as much lines as would be needed
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> wolter: There also are .bash_history as well.
[07:50] <xjolynnx> thanks
[07:50] <IP-v6> you're welcome
[07:51] <IP-v6> I've got a question about gnome-panel ?
[07:51] <IP-v6> is it possible to change font of  only second panel which i have added ?
[07:51] <Miracle> hi folk can I get help mounting my iPhone?
[07:52] <kinja-sheep> !iphone | Miracle
[07:52] <wolter> ah found it guys
[07:52] <Miracle> thx ninja
[07:52] <wolter> its under /etc/hal/fdi/policies/<some other stuff?
[07:52] <mrselfpwn> what did i say?
[07:53] <wolter> you were very close mrselfpwn
[07:53] <wolter> but there were a lot more folders to navigate
[07:53] <mrselfpwn> i just gave you the starting point ;)
[07:53] <wolter> thats why it didn't seem familiar enough
[07:54] <IP-v6> wow ! ubottu knows so much : )
[07:54] <wolter> kinja-sheep, i might need your's
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Which file?
[07:54] <wolter> kinja-sheep, hold... I thought I found it when I had not
[07:56] <Miracle> if you have a older version of a package must you uninstall it in order to install the new one?
[07:57] <wolter> so kinja-sheep should I infer that you have two-finger scrolling enabled?
[07:57] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Uh-uh.
[07:58] <Miracle> are there guideline to asking questions on this channel?
[07:58] <kinja-sheep> !ask | Miracle
[07:58] <geitenneuker> yeah the first important thing is you have to ask to ask
[07:58] <kinja-sheep> That, my friend, is the answer to your question about the question.
[07:59] <geitenneuker> but you also have ask to ask if you can ask to ask
[07:59] <Miracle> lol
[07:59] <ubuntu0o1> how do you ask that?
[08:00] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh nice.. very nice. Can you tell me what steps did you follow? The file is need is this one by the way: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[08:00] <majorjunk0> when creating a new partition what do i need to set the file system as so that i can install ubuntu on to it?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: http://pastebin.com/f9293cc4
[08:01] <mrselfpwn> majorjunk0: depends on your purpose with the machine
[08:01] <wolter> kinja-sheep, did you only modify your xorg.conf?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I toggled it in the Mouse <something>
[08:01] <wolter> kinja-sheep, and, are you running karmic?
[08:01] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Karmic. Yes.
[08:02] <geitenneuker> im running lunatic lemur
[08:02] <wolter> lol
[08:02] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Nothing significant in xorg.conf
[08:02] <wolter> that one's not out yet
[08:02] <wolter> kinja-sheep, can you pastebin that too?
[08:02] <majorjunk0> mrselfpwn, trying to have window (untill i make the full transfer to ubuntu) and ubuntu on the same HD, not trying to do anything special besides that
[08:02] <ubuntu0o1> is there a way to scroll through all the ctrl+r 'sudo command switches parameters' when command is the same?
[08:02] <kinja-sheep> wolter: http://pastebin.com/f3c27035f
[08:03] <mrselfpwn> majorjunk0: i'd go with ext3 if you want to access your linux partitions in windows with a special driver ext4 if you don't care because of it's better features.
[08:04] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: Dunno but sometimes I do this --> history | grep "sudo lol"
[08:04] <wolter> thanks kinja-sheep
[08:04] <kinja-sheep> wolter: You got it fixed? Was it in that hal policy thing?
[08:05] <majorjunk0> mrselfpwn, so ext4 is better than ext3?
[08:05] <mrselfpwn> feature wise yes.
[08:05] <wolter> kinja-sheep, well, i have to restart computer to find out
[08:05] <wolter> kinja-sheep, will you still be here?
[08:06] <mrselfpwn> and with data-writeback enabled it's smokin fast
[08:06] <majorjunk0> ok thnx
[08:06] <mrselfpwn> no problem
[08:06] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Sure.
[08:06] <wolter> ok, brb
[08:07] <ubuntu0o1> well at least 'history' is a good suggestion for somebody who forgets all this stuff - thx kinja-sheep :)
[08:07] <kinja-sheep> ubuntu0o1: :)
[08:07] <mrselfpwn> watch out for the oooze
[08:08] <kandinski> I have compiled and installed a chunk of drivers, but now I want to revert to the ones that come with the distro (9.10 32bit). How can I do that?
[08:09] <kandinski> erm, where I say "drivers" they are actually modules
[08:10] <wolter> hey kinja-sheep it worked =D
[08:10] <Diverdude> When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:10] <wolter> now I'm going to try to enable 2 finger scrolling
[08:10] <kinja-sheep> wolter: ^)^
[08:11] <wolter> hm, you seem to not have modified your xorg.conf
[08:11] <wolter> kinja-sheep,
[08:11] <Chiku> hello
[08:12] <Diverdude> anyone?
[08:12] <wolter> kinja-sheep, so... can you remember what did you do?
[08:12] <kinja-sheep> wolter: iirc karmic does not use xorg.conf -- what did you modify yours though? Everything worked fine for me here.
[08:12] <wolter> iirc?
[08:12] <wolter> but yes karmic does use xorg.conf
[08:12] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I toggled on h scroll under Mouse settings. That was it.
[08:12] <Chiku> how many pass there are for 2efsck? now it's Pass 1D: Reconciling multiply-claimed blocks
[08:12] <wolter> really
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> wolter: if I recall correctly.
[08:13] <wolter> what kernel are you uding?
[08:13] <r4ban> i'm having trouble with my AC'97 onboard audio. here's the ALSA diagnostic script output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a2a2da081bf6df59d609fdaae337637493b12169
[08:13] <wolter> using*
[08:13] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh.. but I mean, you do have 2 finger scrolling?
[08:13] <mrselfpwn> wolter: which file are you editing?
[08:13] <Diverdude> ??
[08:13] <wolter> as in you put your 2 fingers and press to scroll?
[08:13] <r4ban> it seems karmic can't recognize my sound card
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> !info linux-generic | wolter (this)
[08:13] <wolter> mrselfpwn, none at the moment
[08:13] <wolter> mhm
[08:13] <mrselfpwn> wolter: what are you asking about? the mouse
[08:13] <kinja-sheep> wolter: 2 Finger Scrolling? no.
[08:14] <mrselfpwn> wolter: what file in /etc/hal/fdi did you change or are attempting to change?
[08:14] <wolter> kinja-sheep, oh... i had understood that you had.. no worries then
[08:14] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I use Microsoft BT Notebook 5500 for scrolling most of the time. I <3 that biased mouse.
[08:14] <wolter> my problem is fixed
[08:14] <wolter> which is all that matters
[08:14] <Diverdude> can anyone help me?
[08:14] <kinja-sheep> wolter: 2-Finger Scrolling worked for you? I don't mind trying it. :)
[08:14] <wolter> mrselfpwn, i had modified a /usr/shar/hal/fdi file
[08:15] <mrselfpwn> ay
[08:15] <wolter>  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[08:15] <wolter> that one
[08:15] <Diverdude> hallo?
[08:15] <wolter> that is why I thought your suggestion was not right
[08:15] <wolter> Diverdude, whats your problem?
[08:16] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Reboot Required?
[08:16] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Care to paste the modified file?
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no, i did not modify it
[08:17] <wolter> i copied yours into mine
[08:17] <wolter> so that it worked again
[08:17] <wolter> and it sure did
[08:17] <wolter> ;)
[08:17] <FloodBot3> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Oh gotcha (but 2-finger scrolling does not?)
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, no
[08:17] <wolter> no yet ;D
[08:17] <Diverdude> wolter: When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:17] <wolter> kinja-sheep, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=639943&postcount=7
[08:17] <wolter> maybe going to do that... change the thing in my xorg
[08:17] <kinja-sheep> wolter: In the future references, do back up your files first before modifying. :)
[08:17] <wolter> now that nvidia-xconfig made room for my input device thing
[08:18] <wolter> kinja-sheep, yeah.. I just commented where i started the modification and then commented where it ended
[08:18] <wolter> i could have just erased all between the comments and the problem would've been fixed, but now that you are here i prefered to compare files and then I just replaced
[08:18] <Diverdude> wolter, can you help me out?
[08:19] <wolter> Diverdude, not if I do not know what your problem is
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, i just wrote it again
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, When i press alt+tab in ubuntu, and hold down alt, i am able to cycle through all open apps by pressing tabs. I am however only able to cycle forward, and not backward by holding alt+shift and repeatedly press tab. How can I enable both forward and backward cycling?
[08:19] <Diverdude> wolter, there it is again
[08:20] <wolter> Diverdude, thanks, and sorry for not paying attention to your issue earlier
[08:20] <wolter> I was fixing my own back then
[08:20] <wolter> Diverdude, are you using compiz?
[08:20] <geitenneuker> someone playing pong?
[08:20] <AkhlD> hello when i tried to install phpmyadmin it says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:21] <Diverdude> wolter, ohh no worries mate...
[08:21] <Diverdude> Diverdude, yes i am
[08:21] <Diverdude> wolter, Yes I am
[08:22] <AkhlD> brb
[08:22] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Rebooting the laptop. :x
[08:22] <wolter> Diverdude, well, did you try playing around with the settings in config?
[08:22] <wolter> kinja-sheep, you?
[08:22] <wolter> kinja-sheep, to test it i guess
[08:23] <Diverdude> wolter, yes, but I cant seem to find the right place
[08:23] <wolter> should I reboot to try out xorg.conf changed?
[08:23] <wolter> s?
[08:23] <iWolf> Question
[08:23] <kinja-sheep> wolter: If you want to be persistent to get the feature, I wouldn't want to be in your path.
[08:23] <wolter> Diverdude, go to "Window management"
[08:23] <Diverdude> wolter, yes ok
[08:23] <iWolf> I'm running Ubuntu via VM [VirtualBox]
[08:23] <wolter> kinja-sheep, ok, I just thought you were going to test it, as you said "Rebooting... "
[08:24] <Topy44> i just switched from intrepid-based "easypeasy" to karmic UNR, and i am trying to get the look back to the way i like it... and i am not really getting anywhere
[08:24] <Diverdude> wolter, and then Application switcher?
[08:24] <wolter> like it so far iWolf ?
[08:24] <iWolf> And I need to make the screen bigger
[08:24] <iWolf> It's 800x600
[08:24] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I'm on the PC.
[08:24] <iWolf> wolter
[08:24] <iWolf> Advanced Linux User
[08:24] <iWolf> :)
[08:24] <wolter> Diverdude, yes, it can be either that one or the "Satic Application Switcher"
[08:24] <wolter> play around with both
[08:24] <wolter> kinja-sheep, what did you mean then?
[08:24] <Topy44> first of all, all but the active icon in the window-picker-applet are desaturated. i dont like that, how can i get rid of that?
[08:25] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I'm on the computer and I'm trying for 2-finger scrolling on my laptop. (I see what you mean, that feature isn't enabled on my laptop).
[08:25] <lorph> how do I set a timeout for the grub menu that pops up when you need to reboot after a filesystem check?
[08:25] <Topy44> all in all the look of the panel changed a lot and i am trying to get it back to what it looked like before
[08:26] <Topy44> i am not sure if the changes are intrepid -> karmic related, or easypeasy -> plain UNR
[08:26] <iWolf> Ahhh
[08:26] <iWolf> Just make it Fullscreen mode
[08:26] <kinja-sheep> lorph: in /etc/default/grub
[08:26] <wolter> kinja-sheep, should I need to restart to test changes on my Xorg?
[08:26] <wolter> Diverdude, so?
[08:26] <gareth__1> The following packages have been kept back: cryptsetup linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse
[08:26] <gareth__1> why.. and how do i fix it?
[08:26] <lorph> kinja-sheep: which section do I edit?
[08:26] <iWolf> Oh
[08:26] <iWolf> no
[08:26] <lorph> kinja-sheep: my GRUB_TIMEOUT is already "10"
[08:26] <kinja-sheep> wolter: Best to be sure. Okay. I suppose.
[08:27] <lorph> kinja-sheep: but when I tested it, it wouldn't automatically proceed even after 10 seconds
[08:27] <wolter> so, Ill be back in a short time
[08:27] <Diverdude> wolter, ahh yes ok now it works
[08:27] <Diverdude> wolter, thx a lot mate
[08:27] <wolter> good
[08:27] <wolter> no problem
[08:27] <wolter> thats a simple problem :_
[08:27] <wolter> :)
[08:27] <FloodBot3> wolter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <kinja-sheep> lorph: After you edit the file, run "update-grub" afterward to udpate /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:28] <Diverdude> wolter, yeah but thats the problem with guis...if you dont know where to look, you are totally lost
[08:28] <lorph> kinja-sheep: what setting am I supposed to edit though?
[08:28] <lorph> kinja-sheep: by default the grub file already says grub-timeout="10"
[08:28] <gareth__1> sudo apt-get upgrade is giving me The following packages have been kept back: cryptsetup linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse
[08:29] <gareth__1> how do i figure out what's causing the problem?
[08:29] <mneptok> gareth__1: there is no problem
[08:29] <Diverdude> wolter, hmm but it does not seem possible to set the icon size in there
[08:29] <kinja-sheep> lorph: All I know is that you set the configuration file to your liking, update the grub. That's it. Change another settings (then update again). If you want, you can do "grub-mkconfig" too. Also, there are #grub channel. ;o
[08:29] <gareth__1> mneptok: yes there is.. those packages arent updating
[08:29] <mneptok> gareth__1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:30] <mneptok> gareth__1: you need to dist-upgrade to update those packages
[08:30] <gareth__1> im ON 9.10!
[08:30] <mneptok> dist-upgrade is NOT a version upgrade
[08:31] <wolter> oh well, it did not work
[08:31] <gareth__1> oh well.. it's a vm.. if it goes fubar i'll just reinstall
[08:31] <mneptok> gareth__1: i dist-upgrade 9.10 every day
[08:31] <mneptok> gareth__1: and have been using dist-upgrade for years
[08:32] <gareth__1> mneptok: stop flooding x.x
[08:32]  * IP-v6 is back (gone 00:35:01)
[08:32] <mneptok> gareth__1: excuse me?
[08:32] <kinja-sheep> !away > IP-v6
[08:33] <isolat3dsh33p> :)
[08:33] <gareth__1> !enter > mneptok
[08:33] <kinja-sheep> gareth__1: mneptok was not flooding. He was merely passing on the useful information on you.
[08:33] <mneptok> gareth__1: you're now traveling down a very dangerous road.
[08:33] <kinja-sheep> s/on/to
[08:34] <ghostknife> I have a bunch of packages rebuilt from source. Though everytime I get the upgrade screen for updating packages, these packages are displayed (same version). So have package X-1.0 installed, and then rebuilding+installing from source, apt will continue to ask to update it to X-1.0 from the repositories
[08:34] <mneptok> gareth__1: if you'd like to /join #ubuntu-ops and tell my fellow channel operators that i'm flooding, feel free. :P
[08:35] <gareth__1> kinja-sheep: 4-5 messages too me in a minute and a half.. 2 of which are continuated.. last i checked counted as flooding in #ubuntu.. if policies have changed in recent weeks, i appologise
[08:35] <majorjunk0> i created a partition on my hard drive and the ubuntu installer cant seem to find it
[08:35] <isolat3dsh33p> !test
[08:36]  * IP-v6 is away: "trying slient away"
[08:36] <ghostknife> Why does it do this, and how can I get around it, without preventing the package from ever upgrading again?
[08:36] <mneptok> IP-v6: fail.
[08:36] <ardchoille> !away > IP-v6
[08:36] <jongbergs> hi, i really have forgotten how to remove old kernel images and related file using aptitude command, i seemed cannot remember exactly the arguments something like this sudo aptitude purge '~2.6.31-15-generic' ??
[08:37] <mneptok> ghostknife: research "pinning" packages in apt/dpkg
[08:37] <kinja-sheep> ghostknife: See !pinning too
[08:37] <kinja-sheep> wolter: I think I found something.  Will try.
[08:39] <ghostknife> !pinning
[08:39] <wolter> kinja-sheep, keep me notified
[08:40] <majorjunk0> i created a partition on my hard drive and the ubuntu installer cant seem to find it when it gets to step 4 "prepare partitions"
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> odd.. I get put in #ubuntu-unregistered even tho i got auto-identify to nickserv setup
[08:42] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I've been in #ubuntu-unregged for years even tho I ID before joinging
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  yea. its odd.. onluy recently started happening.  Wonder if its lagged services or what
[08:44] <Myrtti> well we do have +R on the channel
[08:45] <ghostknife> mneptok: I went through the guide, though they're unclear about the following. I have grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386 installed. Now I get the source, modify, rebuild and installed my own grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb. From now on, apt tries to update it to their own grub-pc_1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1_i386. If I pin my "release", and a newer version of grub is released, will it again prefer the
[08:45] <ghostknife>  newer release? which is my intention
[08:45] <walkie> hello, i use ubuntu 9.04 on eee701, last day i did connect usb keyboard to it, today i found what eee's own keyboard is misconfigured, (and i have external keyboard away) how to configure eee's keyboard back?
[08:48] <IP-v6> kinja-sheep, when i tryed /away <reason> it prints reason on channel(s), i am using xchat
[08:48] <mneptok> ghostknife: no, your self-built package will be pinned.
[08:48] <IP-v6> how can set slient away ?
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> IP-v6: Disable "Channel announces" in Preferences.
[08:48] <verb3k> is there a way to increase bass in ubuntu?
[08:48] <Miracle> !iphone
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> IP-v6: "Announce all away messages" under General (in Preference).
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  ive seen some mixer controlls  you can install. but they are not instaled by default, or in teh repos.
[08:49] <ghostknife> mneptok: yes, but what does that mean? the same as having it locked, where it will never upgrade to a newer version again?
[08:49] <IP-v6> thanks, i'm trying now : )
[08:49] <IP-v6> it works : )
[08:49] <kinja-sheep> :o3
[08:50] <ghostknife> mneptok: when running: apt-cache policy grub-pc, I noticed there are multiple releases with the number "500", where the older versions are listed lower. I'm hoping this means a newer version with the same pin priority will take higher preference?
[08:50] <ghostknife> mneptok: or rather, newer version with lower pin priority
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer-for.html
[08:51] <context-> anyone know why ssh gets started, then restarted when i boot this x64 9.10 box
[08:51] <ghostknife> mneptok: it should if I understand these apt-cache policy outputs. many of them have older versions with higher pin priorities, listed lower in the list than a newer version/higher priority
[08:51] <ghostknife> *newer version/lower priority
[08:51] <ghostknife> One more thing, if I rebuild a package, how do I pin it? iow. what value do I give for it's "release" ?
[08:52] <infid> anyone know how to get truecrypt working with ext4? i keep getting /dev/mappter/truecrypt1 errors but truecrypt1 doesn't even exist
[08:52] <verb3k> Dr_Willis, thanks, but which parameter is bass? seems technical to me
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> verb3k:  no idea. try the thing and see.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> BASS = low frequencies i guess.
[08:55] <ghostknife> infid: which errors?
[08:55] <ghostknife> infid: are you using a file ON the ext4 volume?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: yes
[08:56] <ghostknife> infid: in other words, your volume is something like /home/myhome/volume.tc, which /home/myhome is on an ext4 fs?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/truecrypt1, missing codepage or helperp rogramer..'
[08:56] <ghostknife> infid: you using the truecrypt gui?
[08:56] <infid> ghostknife: yeah, it's /media/usb/test.tc which is an ext4 system
[08:57] <infid> yeah the gui
[08:57] <infid> and i'm trying to mount to /media/tc
[08:57] <ghostknife> infid: oh, so the volume itself is formatted with ext4?
[08:57] <ghostknife> infid: let me give it a go quickly.
[08:57] <infid> the volume was created in windows version of truecrypt, so ntfs
[08:58] <infid> but i'm using the mount options: "rw,sync,utf8/uid=1000,umask=0000"
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: ok, so let me get this straight. it's a tc volume, created in windows, formatted with NTFS, and stored on an ext4 partition?
[08:59] <infid> yes
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: shouldn't be a problem
[08:59] <infid> i have since ditched windows for ubuntu, so i need to use linux/truecrypt from now on :)
[08:59] <ghostknife> infid: the source filesystem shouldn't make a difference, because it's "abstracted" away from the userspace utilities
[09:00] <infid> yeah, i was able to mount a truecrypt'd ntfs usb drive onto linux/ext3 once
[09:01] <infid> but i'm starting to think truecrypt doesnt like ext4
[09:01] <ghostknife> infid: try and put the file onto usb-drive and see if it mounts then
[09:01] <infid> i can't, it's a 50gb file
[09:01] <ghostknife> infid: hmm
[09:01] <infid> well
[09:01] <infid> it is on a usb harddrive right now actually
[09:01] <ghostknife> then create a 60gb loopback, format with ext3, put it on there, and then try and mount it
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> infid:  i bet the dog ate it.
[09:01] <infid> just not a flash drive, same difference though. the drive is external usb drive is ntfs formatted
[09:02] <ghostknife> infid: so where does the ext4 come in?
[09:02] <ZeekDaGeek> Is there a tool to fix bad hard drive sectors in Ubuntu?
[09:02] <infid> the file was created in vista/truecrypt. then mv'd to an external 500gb usb harddrive, which linux sees as /media/usb. ext4 comes into play as /media/tc
[09:03] <infid> since my / is all ext4
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: ok, but the TC volume is physically stored on an NTFS drive?
[09:03] <infid> correct
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: get your story straight then
[09:03] <ghostknife> infid: either way, the problem isn't the filesystem it's stored on
[09:04] <ghostknife> infid: try and run truecrypt from a terminal
[09:05] <infid> i dont know what the .tc file is formatted as. does tc even format as nfts, ext, etc? i can't remember. i just know for sure the .tc file is stored on an nfts drive
[09:05] <ghostknife> infid: TC can format as fat, and ext2/3
[09:05] <ghostknife> infid: In Linux at least. On windows it might be able to format as NTFS
[09:05] <infid> not sure how to run truecrypt from a terminal. never did it
[09:05] <aprilus> wc
[09:06] <infid> ghostknife: well i know it can when it's formatting a partition but i didnt do that. i just created a file container
[09:06] <ghostknife> infid: the option to format is part of creating the container.
[09:06] <ghostknife> infid: another option is "cross platform" support. maybe you didn't enable that
[09:06] <infid> ok, then i probably did ntfs
[09:07] <infid> do i have to install somethin special to use truecrypt from the cli? i just have the gui .deb package installed
[09:07] <ghostknife> infid: running it from the cli with --help will show the options
[09:07] <ghostknife> infid: it also gives better output
[09:09] <ghostknife> infid: truecrypt --mount <volume> <mount point>
[09:10] <infid> truecrypt --mount /media/usb/foo.tc /media/tc?
[09:11] <ghostknife> infid: OR truecrypt -t -v --mount <volume> <mount point>
[09:11] <infid> worked :D thanks
[09:11] <ghostknife> infid: ok, well. you must have done something wrong then. if you dismount it, it should work through the GUI as well
[09:12] <ghostknife> infid: I'm glad it worked. It would suck loosing a TC volume
[09:12] <infid> googling around is showing that the gui is doing weird stuff behind the scenes
[09:12] <Leoneof`> hi
[09:12] <infid> possibly
[09:12] <Leoneof`> isn't possible to install any software to my special path?
[09:13] <ZeekDaGeek> Ubuntu is saying one of my hard drives has bad sectors, is there an Ubuntu tool to fix / mask them?
[09:13] <schultza> I have an HP Pavilion dv7-2185dx with audio problems when pluggin in my headset. Audio stays coming out of speakers, even though the headset is plugged in correctly. Even in Windows, I had to install drivers to recognize that I have headset connections. I'm currently using Ubuntu 9.10.
[09:13] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: the ubuntu live cd has a check disk program that should try to fix them
[09:13] <Leoneof`> hi linus
[09:14] <schultza> My research lead me to install Realtek HD Manager. That kept coming up for windows. Any help/ideas?
[09:14] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: does it need to be loaded off the live CD or can I use it from an actual installed version.
[09:15] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:15] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: from the live cd, since you wont want anything else loaded onto the disk
[09:15] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: even if you do a chkdisk in windows, it only schedules you to run chkdisk when you reboot, for that very reason
[09:15] <schultza> I have an HP Pavilion dv7-2185dx with audio problems when pluggin in my headset. Audio stays coming out of speakers, even though the headset is plugged in correctly. Even in Windows, I had to install drivers to recognize that I have headset connections. I'm currently using Ubuntu 9.10.
[09:15] <schultza> My research lead me to install Realtek HD Manager. That kept coming up for windows. Any help/ideas?
[09:15] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: Ubuntu's not on the same drive that's failin.
[09:15] <ZeekDaGeek> failing*
[09:16] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: ah, then idk, maybe you can using fsck
[09:16] <schultza> Sorry for any double posts, but I have a slow/sat connection.
[09:16] <geitenneuker> huh
[09:16] <geitenneuker> please fix the 2.6.33 in the ubuntu mainline vanilla kernel
[09:16] <geitenneuker> http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/ae785252f4bf2d3a
[09:16] <geitenneuker> the firmware is not in the kernel
[09:18] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: man badblocks
[09:18] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[09:18] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: I know its probably going to die soon.
[09:19] <infid> ZeekDaGeek: you could always pay geeksquad to run spinrite or somethin professional if it's really important, otherwise trye badblocks or somethign. idk, ive honestly never had to do it myself
[09:19] <infid> ie dont take my advice without a second opinion ;p
[09:20] <ZeekDaGeek> infid: I back up all my data and the drive still mounts so I can get all the data off. The problem is if I start up Windows XP with the bad sectors it takes 20 minutes to boot up at least and 5-10 minutes to open any program
[09:20] <schultza> What mixer do I need to install to get my headset working?
[09:21] <infid> alsa?
[09:22] <schultza> Just alsa or a specific package?
[09:22] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[09:22] <zetheroo> we seriously need an application for converting video from one format to another that actually works ... :(
[09:22] <infid> idk, i came here to get help myself, and am only trying to ansser because theres 5 billion people in here but no one is responding right now and i feel bad for you :p
[09:23] <zetheroo> not to mention a screencast app that also actually works ...
[09:23] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:23] <infid> you're probably better off with google right now until people wake up
[09:23] <zetheroo> anyone know how to convert an AVI to an FLV?
[09:23] <schultza> I'm glad I work the night shift then. I'll wait until I'm at work at 1800. Current it'
[09:24] <schultza> I'm glad I work the night shift then. I'll wait until I'm at work at 1800. Current it's 1354.
[09:24] <schultza> zetheroo: Have you tried Handbrake?
[09:24] <infid> yeah it's 1:30am here, i'm just taking notes on the solution someone just gave me so i wont forget. i've been doing that for years and have never had to ask the same question twice, which is nice
[09:24] <schultza> I wouldn't know of any other program, but apparently Handbrake is popular where I am.
[09:24] <zetheroo> schultza: i have had it before but was not impressed as things were not working without a lot of tweaking ...
[09:25] <schultza> Oh wait. Something about FLV being a .mp4 format, or something like that.
[09:25] <zetheroo> schultza: Avidemux is supposed to do it as well but in Karmic its messed up for converting to FLV
[09:25] <infid> ive only converted video files in windows. is time i learn how to do it in linux
[09:25] <zetheroo> infid: :) don't rush - ha
[09:26] <kwtm> If I mainly want to hang out socially and have no question to ask, what's the appropriate channel?  Is it #ubuntu-I-just-want-to-chat or what?
[09:26] <infid> are there any good video editing apps yet for linux?
[09:26] <infid> kwtm i think it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <infid> yeah
[09:27] <kwtm> infid: How long ago did you check?   I like avidemux, but apparently that's not good enough nowadays
[09:27] <zetheroo> infid: Avidemux is very good :) when it works ...
[09:27] <infid> kwtm, 1999 or so heh
[09:27] <infid> ie when there was nothing
[09:27] <infid> cool i'll try that
[09:28] <infid> i've always had both linux and windows and used windows for most media, but now i'm full linux so i'm tryin to find the alternate apps for everything
[09:28] <kwtm> infid: I've used avidemux to cut and splice video.  But no fancy effects like transition/crossfades, etc.
[09:28] <zetheroo> infid: also cinelerra ..
[09:28] <infid> ie i've only used virtualdub
[09:28] <schultza> Hmm.. Alsa is already installed.
[09:28] <kwtm> infid: Also good for splicing audio
[09:29] <infid> is there audacity for linux? i've used that in windows and iirc it was open source
[09:30] <nixjr> how do i stop desktop icons appearing for all my sata drives, but still make them appear for usb/cd?
[09:31] <zetheroo> infid: yes .. very good too
[09:31] <etfb> Can anyone tell me where Evolution stores its configuration?  I copied the .evolution directory from my backup to my new computer, but it's not being noticed.  Evolution still thinks the inbox and everything else is empty.
[09:32] <infid> i dont use evolution but typing 'locate evolution' only shows files in ~/.evolution for me
[09:32] <geitenneuker> debian ubuntu is fast, i like that
[09:32] <Topy44> hm, for some reason clicking the "home" icon on my UNR netbook takes rather long to display the launcher
[09:33] <Topy44> on intrepid, it was instant
[09:33] <geitenneuker> debora and ian married mr. ubuntu
[09:33] <Topy44> also, clicking any other program is instant
[09:33] <infid> topy44 yeah thats why idsable the UNR interface on my netbook
[09:33] <Andorin> Hey, guys, can somebody help me troubleshoot wireless? I'm pretty sure my software (Karmic) is fine... it's my modem/router, and I'm wondering if anyone here is knowledgeable enough about home networking in general to help me out.
[09:33] <Topy44> but i like the unr launcher a lot
[09:33] <etfb> geitenneuker, Mr Ubuntu is Deb and Ian's golden-haired child.  Or maybe dark-haired, given the African connection...
[09:33] <jerkface> anyone using the alpha?
[09:34] <infid> i prefer gnome-do, way faster to launch stuff
[09:34] <Topy44> but i dont see why it takes longer to switch to it then to switch to any other app
[09:34] <infid> topy44 is your /home on a different partition /filesystem?
[09:34] <Topy44> no
[09:34] <_Darkstar_> Hi i'm using Xubuntu on my laptop, looking to decrease resource usage, already used Boot Up Manager, simple theme and no wallpaper, i'm wondering if anyone knows a link to lightweight apps as i'm using a close to ancient laptop
[09:35] <dahlia> is there a way I can set up synergy so I can control my desktop from another computer before I log in?
[09:35] <jerkface> guess not
[09:35] <infid> maybe there's files in your home that take a while to scan or something
[09:35] <Jasonrj> I've got an issue with my wireless. I'm a newbie, so I don't really know what to do. According to the lspci command, the OS can see my wireless adapter, but I see that I have no network connection. I'm using Xubuntu on an Acer TravelMate 2300, it's pretty old.
[09:35] <infid> dahlia: synergy works for me before i login by default, to enter my password at the gnome login screen
[09:35] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: For media playback if you are happy with the commandline there is mplayer-nogui
[09:35] <dahlia> infid, how did you set it up?
[09:36] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: thanks dude
[09:36] <infid> dahlia, but you have to have synergc running already on the client machine
[09:36] <dahlia> mine wont work until I start quicksynergy and then execute it
[09:36] <infid> dahlia: google 'ubuntu synergy howto' there's details in it
[09:36] <dahlia> ty
[09:37] <Topy44> what i dont get is: using the unr launcher is perfectly quick, everything is really responsive, its just switching to it from another app that takes forever
[09:37] <Topy44> i am running on an ancient first generation eee pc btw
[09:38] <infid> dahlia: i dont use quicksynergy. quicksynergy is fine for intially creating a synergy.conf but once it's working move it to ~/.synergy.conf then just use the command line 'synergys' and 'synergyc'
[09:38] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: and I see you are using x-chat, you might find irssi is lighter?
[09:38] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: its the gnome light version... naaa irssi isnt my style i needsome eyecandy :P
[09:38] <infid> once you go irssi you never go back :)
[09:38] <dahlia> I want the ubuntu box to run synergyc at boot up. I have a windows laptop which is the server
[09:39] <blackest_knight> For some reason I can only tab (alt or super tab) between windows on the same workspace how do I tab between windows in all work spaces (gnome)
[09:39] <dahlia> +1 irssi :)
[09:39] <andrew_46> _Darkstar_: irssi can be prettied up .... a little :)
[09:39] <infid> dahlia:  yeah the howto explains different ways of launching synergyc during system startup
[09:39] <jerkface> i updated the alpha today, and now i have no sound, and I can't reboot or mount anything from gnome. Guess i will install 9.10
[09:40] <Topy44> switching to the unr launcher is not causing much of a cpu surge, so i dont think thats the problem either...
[09:40] <blackest_knight> jerkface: lucid alpha?
[09:40] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: i like the xchat plugins as i run my own irc server and simplifies my job :P
[09:40] <jerkface> right
[09:40] <_Darkstar_> andrew_46: all im doing is trying to cut my laptop resources down lol
[09:41] <infid> blackest_knight: Super+E?
[09:41] <infid> in compiz anyway
[09:41] <infid> my favorite command :)
[09:41] <iceroot> jerkface: because of that noone is using an alpha as a real system of course
[09:42] <blackest_knight> infid: I like super tab
[09:42] <nomnex> What is the number after the permission - here 5 ? > drwxr-xr-x 5 mt mt 4.0K 2010-01-16 18:40 Test
[09:42] <infid> with 3d cube/rotate cube you can ctrl+alt+drag across workspaces
[09:42] <iceroot> nomnex: the count of hardlinks
[09:43] <blackest_knight> infid can do that with the window panel selector
[09:43] <iceroot> nomnex: ah sorry its a dir
[09:43] <iceroot> nomnex: its the number of files inside imo
[09:43] <Seveas> iceroot, nope
[09:43] <nomnex> iceroot, sub folder, files or both?
[09:43] <infid> helping peoples feels good. i should start coming here more often to answer instead of just ask, although i dont know that much. i should also try seeding on transmission to. this could be a whole new life of giving
[09:44] <infid> gnight and goodluck
[09:44] <Seveas> infid, that's the spirit!
[09:44] <andrew_46> infid: night :)
[09:44] <blackest_knight> infid: your getting it
[09:45] <jerkface> ugh, university of oregon is only giving me 1400 kB/s download. this is taking forever.
[09:46] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[09:46] <etfb> Ah! Found the solution to my problem with Evolution not recognising my backed-up files.  Turns out I backed them up as root.  chown -R etfb .evolution was all it took.
[09:47] <jerkface> That 6 minutes was brutal. They should make a minimal install cd like gentoo.
[09:48] <kwtm> etfb: sounds like it's not a good habit to backup as root ... at least not when someone else owns the files.
[09:48] <geitenneuker> jerkface you should take time
[09:49] <jerkface> :-?
[09:49] <geitenneuker> yeah what would you do with a packet radio controller? with only 1200 baud?
[09:49] <devunt> Witty Woodpecker is good for code name
[09:49] <timClicks> what is the package name for python's easy-install
[09:50] <devunt> isn't it?
[09:50] <geitenneuker> just type sudo apt-get install python*
[09:50] <geitenneuker> it installs everything
[09:50] <timClicks> ;)
[09:50] <kwtm> _Darkstar_: for a REALLY low resource environment, take out X windows and just use text.  Hmm, not sure exactly *how* light-resource you want to go
[09:50] <timClicks> there are over 1000 python packages
[09:50] <jerkface> damn, i can't eject either. worked great yesterday :D
[09:51] <geitenneuker> yeah its funny to see all those things
[09:51] <phaese> is this a correct place to ask for help troubleshooting problems?
[09:51] <Seveas> phaese, it is
[09:51] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[09:52] <toman> someone who can help me install BENQ scanner 5000 under ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:52] <jerkface> geez, I downloaded the 32 bit version. There's 6 minutes I'll never get back.
[09:52] <toman> XSane does not work
[09:55] <nomnex> Any advance Bash user around here? ls -l output > drwxr-xr-x 34 mt mt 4.0K 2010-01-16 17:23 Software. I need to know exactly what's the number 34 after the permissions. These numbers do not reflect my folders or documents, I could not find any clear explanation on the web. Thanks
[09:55] <Andorin> Hey, guys, can somebody help me troubleshoot wireless? I'm pretty sure my software (Karmic) is fine... it's my modem/router, and I'm wondering if anyone here is knowledgeable enough about home networking in general to help me out.
[09:56] <phaese> okay, thanks. i'm running 9.10 on a vaio sz7xx and i'm running into some problems with gnome-power-management. for some reason, it is not recognizing when ac power is connected or disconnected. this problem also occurs in devkit-power, but the information in /proc/acpi/ is properly updated and correct. this leads me to believe that devkit-power is not functioning correctly. if anyone has any suggestions, i would appreciate it.
[09:56] <vyazovoi> nomnex: info ls
[09:57] <kinja-sheep> System --> Preferences --> Encryption/Password.  What is the command for that?
[09:57] <devunt> oh, one of 10.10 DevelopCodeName is Microsoft Murderer
[09:58] <siggy> Andorin: just ask your question, it worked fine for me in karmic. did you enable wireless in your router?
[09:58] <nomnex> vyazovoi, nothing about the numbers after the permissions there, man ls, ls --help, etc. I don't find.
[09:58] <vyazovoi> nomnex: afair "number of hard links"
[09:58] <vyazovoi> info ls
[09:58]  * devunt is away: sudo /etc/init.d/devunt away
[09:58] <vyazovoi> info and man are two different things
[09:58]  * devunt is back (gone 00:00:02)
[09:58] <llutz> nomnex: [10:58:07] <vyazovoi> nomnex: afair "number of hard links"      <- it is
[09:58] <nomnex> vyazovoi, yes, but the folders do not contain any hard links command "ln"
[09:59] <Andorin> siggy: Yeah. The problem is this: LAN connections from the router will work fine, but with wireless, I can connect to the router but not the Internet. The router is set up in front of a modem/router device with DHCP disabled because the wireless on the modem/router is crap. And the wireless was working fine earlier today when I set it up, but then I wake up and can't connect.
[10:00] <llutz> nomnex: "Directories - The amount of links or directories within the directory. The default amount of directories is going to always be 2 because of the . and .. directories"
[10:02] <nomnex> llutz, thanks. do you know why the numbers does not update when I remove a dir or two in the GUI and pass the ls-lh command again? They add fine when I create a new folder, but the numbers do not change during the same session when I delete (trash) a folder. Is it because it is in the trash and not shift deleted?
[10:03] <Topy44> how can i change the cpu speed of my eee pc 4g/701 with ubuntu karmic? under intrepid i used eee-control, but i heard the functionality was integrated into karmic?
[10:03] <llutz> nomnex: no idea, sorry
[10:03] <nomnex> llutz, thanks anyway.
[10:04] <petsounds> Topy44, you can use eeepc-acpi-utilities
[10:06] <Topy44> hm, i just noticed:
[10:06] <ssn> hi guys. I am part of a ubuntu install party. my question: how well does the ubuntu install handle resizing / dualbooting with windows vista and windows 7? i remember problems with past installations, but i dont know about karmic
[10:07] <Topy44> clicking the "home" icon to get back the unr launcher takes forever as said - but: minimizing the current program switches instantly!
[10:07] <Topy44> so something really is weird
[10:07] <kgs> what is an install party?
[10:08] <phaese> ssn, are you aiming to use grub or the windows bootloader
[10:08] <Seveas> kgs, bunch of people coming together and helping each other install Ubuntu
[10:08] <phaese> just out of curiousity
[10:08] <llutz> kgs: something like IRC, but real-life
[10:08] <kgs> Ah...
[10:08] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: I don't have that menu entry here
[10:09] <kgs> lol
[10:09] <flexible> grub will not load passed the GRUB Loading display... i'm stuck, unable to load my OS, i've tried using the live cd to reinstall grub but it hasn't helped... any suggestions?
[10:09] <kinja-sheep> friends don't let friends install windows
[10:09] <kgs> I've installed Ubuntu for several friends... never was it anything like a party.
[10:09] <jerkface> dude, i love windows 7
[10:09] <phaese> yea
[10:09] <phaese> i've been pleased with 7
[10:09] <guntbert> !ot
[10:09] <nixjr> ive been using ubuntu for 2 days now, i had no reason to switch from windows, i just felt like a change
[10:09] <flexible> me too actually.
[10:10] <flexible> w7 pulled through
[10:10] <toman> someone have any idea how to install benq 5000 image scanner on my ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:10] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Meh. I'm trying to set up gnome-pam-keyring so I don't get that pesky nm-applet asking for password. (it is under accessories, maybe?)
[10:10] <flexible> so can anyone help me with my GRUB problem?
[10:10] <Topy44> hm, the unr launcher really is behaving strangely. half the time when i click a program it doesnt start it
[10:10] <toman> someone have any idea how to install benq 5000 image scanner on my ubuntu 9.10 ? XSane does not work. All I found in google was a broken link from a guy who said he fixed it ...
[10:10] <diverse_izzue> flexible, what exactly have you tried to reinstall grub?
[10:11] <kinja-sheep> toman: Paste out the broken line.
[10:11] <devunt> It's  ₥i€Ro$o₣₮
[10:11] <edakiri> flexible: do you have a USB drive?
[10:11] <loquitus> Is it safe to upgrade to 9.10? I know that there were serious issues with upgrading to it initially...
[10:11] <flexible> diverse_izzue: grub-install or whatever the command is... and followed the appropriate steps with the live cd
[10:11] <devunt> or ₥i€Ro$o₣₮ ₩i₦₫o₩$
[10:11] <diverse_izzue> loquitus, i think it is safe
[10:11] <toman> it's not recodnising it at all kinja-sheep
[10:11] <flexible> edakiri: yeh i do
[10:11] <bazhang> devunt, stop that
[10:12] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: you are looking for applications/accesories/passwords and encryption
[10:12] <devunt> ok.
[10:12] <devunt> sorry
[10:12] <kinja-sheep> Is it safe to drive? I know that there were serious issues with driving on roads initially.
[10:12] <llutz> devunt: /j #fanboys and go on
[10:12] <diverse_izzue> flexible, you should run update-grub and then grub-install <your-drive> from a chroot environment
[10:12] <loquitus> diverse_izzue: but you know then about all the issues and are saying those problems are not prevelent anymore?
[10:12] <diverse_izzue> you'd have to specify the issues, i haven't personally run into any
[10:13] <flexible> but how is that method any different to what i did aside from the update... i'm using the latest ubuntu release, so grub can't be that dated
[10:13] <loquitus> diverse_izzue: well I upgraded one machine and mid upgrade it gave an error and the machine was incapable of booting in anymore.
[10:13] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: and it it called seahorse
[10:13] <guntbert> *it is
[10:13] <schultza> Now i have sound working on the headset, but it will not seperate from the speakers. Argh!
[10:13] <loquitus> Another machine appeared to have completed, but it too would not reboot
[10:14] <phaese> ioquitus: personally, i just installed 9.10 on what was an 8.4 machine, everything works the same for me except one major problem has been fixed (standby issues) and one minor problem has been introduced (power management issues)
[10:14] <diverse_izzue> drat then you seem indeed to have bad luck with it. i don't know how many fixes have gone into it since reboot
[10:15] <phaese> ioquitus: (if you're looking for anecdotal answers :P)
[10:15] <edakiri> flexible: if you install while USB drive is attached, it causes a problem.  When booting, it will search and eventually time out and continue normally.  To solve, install without USB drive attached.
[10:15] <diverse_izzue> flexible, are you in the live environment still?
[10:15] <toman> kinja-sheep,  error is "Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:006:002':Invalid argument."
[10:16] <nixjr> i have an issue with my sound, when compared to windows, all my music is missing almost all of the middle and bass tones
[10:16] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, that happens with several playback applications, not just one?
[10:16] <flexible> diverse_izzue: no i am not... i can boot it up again though...
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: i did not a usb flash drive attached on boot though
[10:17] <edakiri> nixjr: maybe on MS you have an equalizer active.  It does not sound like a likely software problem.
[10:17] <phaese> if anyone is familiar enough with devkit-power to help me troubleshoot an issue i'm having, i would appreciate it
[10:17] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, it happens with the two ive tried
[10:17] <edakiri> flexible: did you have it attached while installing?
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: no
[10:17] <pentanol>  hi 2every1! anybody use sasc-ng or something else so as to watching encoded dvb-s?
[10:17] <AkhlD> hello
[10:17] <flexible> edakiri: grub used to work, then all of a sudden it wouldn't boot
[10:17] <nixjr> edakiri, ive tried with eq on and off, when the eq was on, i imported the same eq settings i had in winamp
[10:17] <diverse_izzue> flexible, why don't you do that, then maybe people can help
[10:18] <AkhlD> i cant remove phpmyadmin this s wht happens http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:18] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, do you know what kind of sound chip you have? is it something exotic?
[10:18] <edakiri> since Ubuntu does not usually use loadkeys to set the keymap, what does it use?
[10:18] <flexible> diverse_izzue: well i'm tempted to just do a clean install of ubuntu, as all my files and the like are on a seperate partition '/home' anyway
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> flexible, always a good idea too :-)
[10:19] <kinja-sheep> flexible: And /etc.
[10:19] <AkhlD> anyone ?
[10:19] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, i dont think so, ive got an asus p45 chipset mobo and am using onboard sound
[10:19] <bashca> hi there  please  help me ( Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal )
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> nixjr, sounds very exotic your problem, cannot help
[10:20] <flexible> kinja-sheep: no /etc is not in a seperate partition... should i do that on the new install?
[10:20] <zetheroo> is there a way to make an image of my entire Hard Drive so that I can just restore my new HDD with a replica of my current setup?
[10:21] <nixjr> diverse_izzue, is there a way to bring up exactly what kind of sound chip i have from within ubuntu?
[10:21] <kinja-sheep> flexible: It is only 10-12MB at most. It is where worldwide settings and sources.list, personal ppa, and whatnot. Not a big deal. :)
[10:21] <guntbert> zetheroo: look at clonezilla
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> flexible, i would in any case keep a backup of /etc. i would not necessarily keep it when reinstalling, you also risk keeping old cruft
[10:21] <zetheroo> guntbert: ah yes .. thanks
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> bashca, what package is that? which application gives you that error message?
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> hello people
[10:22] <AkhlD> help meeeeeee http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> I want to know why loading firefox takes longer
[10:22] <Pathero-ng> when running as user then root
[10:23] <nixjr> Pathero-ng, i dont use ff but could plugins be user specific? i think each plugin adds to the load time
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> Pathero-ng, I don't know, but you should most certainly not run it as root
[10:23] <Pathero-ng> it use to run fast as user too
[10:23] <guntbert> nixjr: why do you run FF as root?
[10:23] <Pathero-ng> until I changed the firefox executabvle to fire
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> one thing you could try is clean it's database, or create a new profile for your user
[10:23] <kinja-sheep> Pathero-ng: "firefox -safe-mode" and see if that's about same as root.
[10:24] <nixjr> guntbert, i dont use ff at all, i think you mean Pathero-ng
[10:24] <Pathero-ng> I
[10:24] <guntbert> nixjr: yes, sorry - clumsy finger syndrome :-)
[10:24] <Pathero-ng> heard running a graphical program with sudo messes it up
[10:25] <ardchoille> !gksudo | Pathero-ng
[10:25] <Topy44> hm, i am getting this error on apt-get update, but i cannot figure out where it gets that repository address from: "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"
[10:25] <nixjr> Pathero-ng, use gksudo
[10:25] <_Darkstar_> Pathero-ng: download Firefox 3.0 the beta, really fast browser
[10:25] <_Darkstar_> much lighter too
[10:25] <Pathero-ng> 3.0? I got 3.5
[10:26] <diverse_izzue> Topy44, have a look through your /etc/apt/sources.d/
[10:26] <guntbert> _Darkstar_: are you really suggesting an ancient beta?
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> I run firefox as root
[10:26] <AkhlD> _Darkstar_, please help me to uninstall phpmyadmin it show this error http://pastebin.com/d299611eb
[10:26] <_Darkstar_> oops sorry... havent updated in a while lol.... using windows since im at my parents
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> changing the icon properties I don't use console
[10:26] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: That's extremely dangerous
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> extremly?
[10:26] <Pathero-ng> like how
[10:27] <bashca> sorry  d/c  back
[10:27] <bashca> diverse_izzue: flashplugin-nonfree
[10:27] <Pathero-ng> is it the same as using gksudo running as root off the icon
[10:27] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: trust me, you don't want to run any internet apps as root user.
[10:27] <diverse_izzue> bashca, have you tried doing what it says? sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Are you familiar with seahorse or libgnome-keyring?
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> ,,,, people
[10:28] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: because when someone attcks your browser he will work with root permissions - so have immediate access to your whole system
[10:28] <bashca> yes  also  i tried  fix broken pack
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> ok and another thing is
[10:28] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, disable all plugins
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> it loads slower
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> how
[10:28] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: if you want to remove the wlan passphrase question - yes
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> loads slower when run as user after I renamed firefox to fire
[10:28] <Pathero-ng> in an attempo to identiy what exe the icon was pointnto
[10:29] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Okay. Could you tell me what I'm doing it wrong? I followed the instruction from LifeHacker and whatnot. Can't get it to work so far.
[10:29] <AkhlD> Pathero-ng, can u help me with http://pastebin.com/d299611eb ?
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> for waht
[10:29] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, you never need to run firefox as root. disable plugins and see which one is causing the slowdown
[10:29] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: http://tinyurl.com/2lwj6a
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> ok man
[10:29] <Pathero-ng> u mean flash
[10:29] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, not really
[10:30] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: you probably have an extension that is slowing down firefox
[10:30] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes  and  i tried  fixing  broken pack >>>>>>>>>
[10:30] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, there are tons of extensions that slow it down as they are badly written
[10:30] <Topy44> diverse_izzue: hm, i removed the files i found there containing it, and the error still shows. do i need to tell apt to re-read its sources list somehow?
[10:30] <Pathero-ng> addon?
[10:30] <nixjr> are firefox plugins user specific?
[10:30] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: yes
[10:31] <bashca> diverse_izzue: ?
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> ok I removed noscript
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> tthat's the only addon
[10:31] <Pathero-ng> but still slow
[10:32] <Pathero-ng> I just disabled plugins
[10:32] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: my only advice is to rename ~/.mozilla, open the browser with a fresh config and set it up again
[10:32] <diverse_izzue> bashca, back, sorry
[10:32] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: I use adblock and noscript and my firefox is fast
[10:33] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: ah I see - I did it the easier way - as I have no passwords stored in that keyring I removed the password from the keyring
[10:33] <diverse_izzue> bashca, what happened when you execute the  command i wrote?
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> I use noscript to block google cookies
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> on pages where it has nothing to do with it
[10:33] <Pathero-ng> such as text translators
[10:33] <bashca> diverse_izzue: I wasn't able to locate file for the flashplugin-nonfree package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package
[10:33] <guntbert> !enter | Pathero-ng
[10:33] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: you can go into your firefox options and block 3rd party cookies, that will help with that
[10:34] <bashca> diverse_izzue: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
[10:34] <siggy> Andorin: I'm not sure if I get your setup right http://pastebin.com/d2a25a565 care to tell exact models of routers?
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> seems like a good idea renaming mozilla ~
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> do I do it as root
[10:34] <ardchoille> no
[10:34] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: If you think your approach will help, by all means, free feel to guide me. I didn't have seahorse installed (in first place). I'll purge all passwords in seahorse.
[10:34] <Pathero-ng> should I make firefox be owned by user
[10:34] <diverse_izzue> bashca, does the package installation work for other packages?
[10:35] <ardchoille> Pathero-ng: nothing in your home diredtory should be owned by root
[10:35] <bazhang> Pathero-ng, you say it is slow, as compared to what? before you started running it as root? On another OS?
[10:36] <bashca> diverse_izzue: nope
[10:36] <diverse_izzue> bashca, ah so effectively your apt is broken :-(
[10:36] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: open seahorse - use the first tab (passwords) - right click on passwords:login - select change password
[10:36] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:37] <Topy44> hm, also ubuntu is constantly telling me that my battery is "old or broken", but as i still get like 3 hours out of it i would hardly call it broken...
[10:37] <Andorin> siggy: Hang on, I'll show you what it's like
[10:37] <diverse_izzue> does dpkg seem to work though? can you e.g. search for packages with dpkg: dpkg -s firefox
[10:38] <wakatake> hi, how do i reduce ubuntu memory footprint?
[10:38] <wakatake> i currently have 86 running processes..some might be unnecessary..how to tell which are relevant and which are not?
[10:39] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:40] <kinja-sheep> wakatake: 86 processes? Are you running a server or something?
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> can you refresh your packages lists with apt? sudo aptitude update?
[10:40] <wakatake> kinja-sheep, yea sir
[10:40] <wakatake> 9.10 LTS
[10:40] <ardchoille> wakatake: 9.10 is not an LTS
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> wakatake: 9.10 is not LTS. It is either 8.04 or 10.04. For starters, you could pastebin some information (ie, installed packages or running services).
[10:41] <wakatake> okie give me a second
[10:41] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes (Reading package lists... Done)
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: It does not work. I kept getting prompted.
[10:41] <geitenneuker> 9.04 is lts i think
[10:42] <diverse_izzue> bashca, does removing work now. sudo aptitude remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:42] <ardchoille> geitenneuker: no
[10:42] <bashca> diverse_izzue: nope
[10:42] <kinja-sheep> geitenneuker: It is not. See above. :O
[10:42] <diverse_izzue> what does it say if you try to install some new package, that you havne't had installed before?
[10:42] <ardchoille> iirc, the only LTS that is supported now are 6.06, 8.04 and 10.04 will be out in April
[10:42] <bashca> diverse_izzue:  package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[10:42] <napsy> Hello. I'm thinking to install arch over my ubuntu installation. The only problem is I have my home encrypted wen installing ubuntu. Can anyone tell me if the ubuntu encryption is compatible with other distributions?
[10:43] <geitenneuker> i wonder why they change the release cycle instead of partial upgrades
[10:43] <bashca> diverse_izzue: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> napsy: How did you encrypt your home? Via cryptsetup?
[10:43] <napsy> kinja-sheep: setup did that for me
[10:43] <diverse_izzue> bashca, can you try opening synaptic
[10:43] <bashca> diverse_izzue: ok
[10:44] <kinja-sheep> napsy: Which one? There are two -- Home encryption (eCrypts) or full-system encryption (found in minimal+alternative disc).
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> then go to "custom filters" in the lower left
[10:44] <wakatake> kinja-sheep, http://pastebin.com/md5e5ac6
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> and finally choose "broken" on the left side
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> does it show you any broken packages?
[10:44] <napsy> kinja-sheep: only home encryption when installing ubuntu
[10:44] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes  same  pacakge
[10:44] <bashca> pack..
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> the flashplugin one?
[10:44] <aliquerer> I have a blog in XML format, exported from blogger.com. how do i open it in ubuntu?
[10:44] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:45] <ardchoille> aliquerer: open it in gedit
[10:45] <diverse_izzue> reinstalling from synaptic doesn't work either i guess?
[10:45] <bashca> diverse_izzue: yes
[10:45] <kinja-sheep> napsy: Err, I'm not sure. "Encrypt home directory" is what you mean? Either way, by all means, you should make backup. cryptsetup is nice and linux-native (if that's not what you're using).
[10:45] <diverse_izzue> bashca, hmmm, try removing it with dpkg directly. sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[10:46] <aliquerer> ardchoille: it wont open correctly
[10:46] <napsy> kinja-sheep: yes I've checked "encrypt home directory" during the installation
[10:46] <bashca> diverse_izzue: dosn't work
[10:46] <bashca> also
[10:46] <aliquerer> ardchoille: i want it to be viewed as a blog or diary
[10:46] <ardchoille> aliquerer: if you're wanting it to look exactly like it looks in blogger, that won't happen
[10:46] <diverse_izzue> bashca, dpkg -S flashplugin-nonfree
[10:47] <napsy> kinja-sheep: now ~/.Private is mounted to my ~/ as "encryptfs"
[10:47] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ok, then how can i do to continue my blogging in a new software?
[10:47] <ardchoille> aliquerer: you'll have to open it from your blogger.com page
[10:47] <bashca> diverse_izzue: in  procressing
[10:47] <ardchoille> aliquerer: see if blogger.com allows "export", and then use that to import it to new software
[10:47] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: the correct place to set the password: http://imagebin.org/80130 (you must set the keyring password!)
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> napsy: I see. I'm not familiar with that one (but cryptsetup is in one of the dependencies).
[10:48] <aliquerer> ardchoille: yes it allows export. that gets me the xml file
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> sorry, bashca, what i wanted was dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> napsy: I don't know if ecryptfs is supported by Arch either.
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> does it list the files belonging to that package?
[10:48] <ardchoille> aliquerer: then see if the new software allows importing of xml files
[10:48] <bashca> diverse_izzue: no  problem  u  r  helping me  don't sorry again ;)
[10:48] <napsy> kinja-sheep: ok thanks anyway ... I think I found a way
[10:49] <bashca> diverse_izzue: iguess  with  L  option  worked  let me tryy it  again
[10:49] <aliquerer> ardchoille: do you know any good software for ubuntu which does that?
[10:50] <ardchoille> aliquerer: no, I use blogger.com because it's easy and I don't have to maintain any software for it, plus I can access my blogger.com account from anywhere in the world
[10:50] <aliquerer> ardchoille: yes thats true, my concern is i dont want others to read my notes
[10:50] <bashca> diverse_izzue: it show me list  ??  what after that
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> bashca, i just wanted to see if the database "knows" what files belong to that package, so that seems to work
[10:51] <ardchoille> aliquerer: if you're wanting something like a wiki-style diary, then try tomboy or gnote.. it's like a desktop wiki
[10:51] <bashca> diverse_izzue: so ?? what next
[10:51] <ardchoille> aliquerer: for personal diary, I simply use gedit and keep a folder of diary pages for each day
[10:52] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Not working. That was the same thing I did. On the side note, I don't have login.keyring under ~/.gnome2/keyrings but default.keyring --> login.keyring does not work either.
[10:52] <diverse_izzue> bashca, i found some guy describing what he did to get out of that problem on his blog: http://casedogdesigns.com/wordpress/ubuntu-inconsistent-apt-get-state/
[10:52] <aliquerer> ardchoille: I c, maybe i do that. but it would be good if i could import all my entries somehow :/
[10:52] <silv3r_m00n> how to run quanta plus on kde 4 ?
[10:53] <aliquerer> Need diary software which can imprt XML-files
[10:53] <bashca> diverse_izzue: thanks  i will  visit   it
[10:53] <ardchoille> aliquerer: I wrote a small tutorial about daily journals/dairies: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-daily-journal-with-panel.html
[10:53] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: then I don't know - sorry
[10:53] <diverse_izzue> bashca, good luck
[10:54] <phaese> is anyone familiar with devkit-power?
[10:54] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ty, seems a bit complicateed though :/
[10:55] <papul> hi. i want to uninstall and then reinstall openssl without uninstalling its dependencies
[10:55] <lanoxx> hi, i have an ntfs partition mounted and everytime i delete a file it is copied to /<ntfs-root-folder>/.Trash-1000
[10:55] <lanoxx> but if i empty the trash in nautilus then nothing gets removed from there
[10:55] <lanoxx> do i have to empty this folder by my self?
[10:56] <lanoxx> or is there another way?
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> bashca, let me know if that helps
[10:56] <Andorin> lanoxx: I think so. That's what I've had to do before.
[10:56] <ardchoille> aliquerer: once it's all set up, the work is over and you only need to edit the journal. the work takes four minutes
[10:56] <Andorin> I manually find the deleted files and try to delete them. It warns you that it can't send them to Trash and asks if you want to delete them straightaway.
[10:56] <lanoxx> Andorin, so i just remove the whole folder or just its subfolders? I was a bit confused because there are two subfolders info and files
[10:56] <ardchoille> aliquerer: there are other diary/journal apps in the repos. open a terminal and run:  apt-cache search diary
[10:57] <aliquerer> ardchoille: ok thank you very much :)
[10:57] <bashca> diverse_izzue: sudo dpkg –force-remove-reinstreq –remove flashplugin-nonfree   dosn't work also
[10:57] <Andorin> lanoxx: I never tried just deleting .Trash-1000... I go through the folders until I find the files themselves, or their parent directories, and just erase those.
[10:57] <ardchoille> aliquerer: rednotebook is pretty good too
[10:57] <diverse_izzue> bashca, I'm sorry I'm out of ideas.
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin, hmm, my .Trash-1000 is already about 8.8 gb
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> anybody a dpkg-guru and can help bashca??
[10:58] <bashca> diverse_izzue: thanks
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin,  deleting each file by hand might be a bit of work
[10:58] <lanoxx> Andorin, do you thing its save to just delete the contents of info and files?
[10:59] <Andorin> lanoxx: What do you see in .Trash-1000/files?
[10:59] <papul_> hi. i want to uninstall and then reinstall openssl without uninstalling its dependencies
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> papul_: "sudo aptitude reinstall openssl" ?
[11:00] <papul_> kinja-sheep, i dunno
[11:00] <papul_> is that correct?
[11:00] <kinja-sheep> papul_: The manual say "reinstall    - Download and (possibly) reinstall a currently installed package
[11:00] <kinja-sheep> "
[11:00] <Topy44> how can i control my eee pc 701/4g cpu speed on karmic?
[11:00] <lanoxx> Andorin, hundreds of files
[11:01] <Andorin> lanoxx: Ctrl+A and hit Delete
[11:01] <evanthia> notify-send is not using milliseconds as said in the man. why is that. I want to reduce the time the notification is showing as it is annoyingly long now. Is something else overriding it?
[11:01] <lanoxx> Andorin, what about the info folder?
[11:01] <Andorin> lanoxx: How big is the folder?
[11:03] <lanoxx> .Trash-1000/files is 8.8 gb and .Trash-1000/info is 6mb
[11:03] <lanoxx> it seems to be some kind of meta data folder
[11:03] <lanoxx> because all the files there have the same nam
[11:03] <lanoxx> name
[11:03] <lanoxx> Topy44, atom cpus are missing speed control afaik
[11:04] <Topy44> its not an atom
[11:04] <Andorin> Sooo erase everything in /files and see if /info empties automatically
[11:04] <Topy44> first generation eee, so its a celeron m
[11:04] <meowbuntu> hi finally i have been able to get in.
[11:05] <meowbuntu> i have just installed ubuntu studio for testing. and i was not allowed to get into the server without regestering. i nevercame accrosss this when using ubuntu
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: The changes took places within 24 hours ago.
[11:06] <meowbuntu> y is that
[11:06] <troopperi> Topy44, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/eee-control-utility-for-controlling-eee-pc-hardware.html, i dont know if that works, i use eeebuntu ( eeebuntu.org )where it is allready on system
[11:06] <meowbuntu> its annoying and a pain for new users
[11:06] <meowbuntu> there was no clear instrustions on how to regester
[11:06] <kinja-sheep> !register | meowbuntu
[11:06] <Topy44> troopperi: my whole point is that eee control doesnt exist for karmic
[11:07] <meowbuntu> i am regestered now arnt i
[11:07] <Topy44> its what i used on intrepid, but there is no karmic version, and someone said that its not needed as the karmic kernel would have the functionality included already
[11:07] <Topy44> but i dont know how to use it
[11:07] <meowbuntu> there should be this info on #ubuntu-unregged
[11:07] <zetheroo> anyone here familiar with using Clonezilla?
[11:07] <Andorin> lanoxx: Any luck?
[11:07] <meowbuntu> ^ kinja-sheep
[11:07] <troopperi> Topy44, is there packet name eee-control?
[11:07] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: It is not you. This channel have different modes now. Forget it. Got any support/questions? :)_
[11:08] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[11:08] <meowbuntu> yes is there a channel for ubuntu studio or is this where i come
[11:08] <Topy44> troopperi: umh, do you want me to repeat my answer? :)
[11:08] <lanoxx> Andorin, yeah files are gone now
[11:08] <Topy44> no karmic version, therefore no paket, obviously :)
[11:08] <Topy44> thats the whole point
[11:08] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: #ubuntu-studio (but you knew that).
[11:09] <troopperi> Topy44, no need... :)
[11:09] <meowbuntu> yes joined just after
[11:09] <Andorin> lanoxx: Great. It's weird that it doesn't ask to clear the trash on that partition when you unmount the partition... it's what the storage partition on my HD, and now my portable hard drive, do.
[11:09] <lanoxx> hmm, it gets mounted at boot time with fstab
[11:09] <Andorin> And the trashed files generally show up in my Trash directory regardless of the device.
[11:10] <lanoxx> hmm
[11:10] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[11:10] <lanoxx> Andorin, yeah thats strange
[11:10] <lanoxx> i also just saw that i have 20 broken file in the info directory and im unable to delete them
[11:10] <babalu> hello, i'm trying to create an ad-hoc network to share my internet connection, i managed to create an ad-hoc network with ubuntu, but the windows computer does not see it; with ubuntu, i created the ad-hoc network using command-line, and i'm now able to ping myself, but windows does not see the ad-hoc network :(
[11:11] <lanoxx> Andorin, they look like this on the terminal: -????????? ? ?               ?        ?                ? duplicates.txt.trashinfo
[11:11] <simba_> amd64.iso or i386.iso for intel 64bit cpu's?
[11:11] <uchimata> hi, has anyone an idea which global settings file has to be adjusted to define the keymap for a newly created user -- cli based? or any documentation about the gconf schema files in /usr/share/gconf?
[11:11] <Andorin> lanoxx: Strange. When I delete a file from /files the relevant files in /info gets deleted too.
[11:11] <evanthia> is there a way to change the annoying 10s timeout notify-osd uses?
[11:12] <bashca> diverse_izzue: dpkg: need an action option  ( i did  the corect  command  dpkg --force -remove-reinstreq flashplugin-nonfree )
[11:12] <Andorin> evanthia: Good question. I want to know this too.
[11:13] <siggy> diverse_izzue: add --remove that's the action option
[11:13] <lanoxx> Andorin, im going to boot xp and run chkdsk
[11:13] <Andorin> k
[11:14] <diverse_izzue> bashca, ^ (siggy)
[11:14] <bashca> siggy: same  things
[11:14] <Starcraftmazter> how do I get rid of things on the bootlist in grub2?
[11:14] <bashca> siggy: dpkg --force -remove-reinstreq -remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:15] <lanoxx> Starcraftmazter, afaik there is a tool you can run
[11:15] <zetheroo> Dextronaught: not normal
[11:16] <zetheroo> Dextronaught: are you using the Adobe flash plugin for FF?
[11:16] <siggy> bashca: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:18] <bashca> siggy: siggy siggy tahnks  100 times
[11:18] <bashca> thanks
[11:18] <diddy> Is there a chat program that does not require a server? I want to chat with my friend and we know each others IPs.
[11:18] <bashca> siggy: but also  wont resolve me  problem :(
[11:18] <siggy> bashca: you're welcome
[11:19] <Diverdude> if i am in a multiuser system, is it possible to see who has been doing operations on my files/folders, or if there has been done operations on these?
[11:19]  * bashca still  have the same  problem  :( 
[11:20] <bashca> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing
[11:20] <VCoolio> Diverdude: 'stat file' gives a modification date
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, and if a user just did an ls in my folder?
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, can i detect that?
[11:21] <Diverdude> VCoolio, or copied or opened a file
[11:22] <VCoolio> Diverdude: I don't know if that's a possibility; maybe there is a very detailed logging app that will keep track; that's all I got
[11:22] <nixjr> wky does openoffice for unbuntu only require a ~15mb download, but on windows it took hundreds of mb?
[11:26] <wakatake> nixjr, a propaganda
[11:27] <kinja-sheep> nixjr: Cos I canz EMAIL in word. Cos I canz DATABASE in word. Cos I canz GAME in word. http://tinyurl.com/ya4b6wm
[11:28] <nefele> If I install lucid alpha 2, will I be able to seamlessly apt-get upgrade to the release version once it comes out in April?
[11:28] <pentanol> hey, anybody use encoded dvb-s channels on x86_64 arch? which client you use for cccam?
[11:29] <kinja-sheep> nefele: Yes.
[11:30] <nefele> kinja-sheep, thanks
[11:32] <meowbuntu> the app hydrogen only available for ubuntu 9.10 64bin ??? any ideas how i can get it for i386.i686 http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:35] <guntbert> !info hydrogen | meowbuntu
[11:36] <meowbuntu> guntbert,  there is no 32bit 4 9.10 http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:36] <guntbert> meowbuntu: why don't you use the one from the repos?
[11:36] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Dear $DEITY, I have completed my quest. Leave the password blanks for profile:login. You did it that way too?
[11:36] <meowbuntu> repos there is not one there
[11:37] <meowbuntu> i looked in synaptic ok
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> !latest | meowbuntu
[11:37] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: yes - I thought I told you so - but maybe I didn't - glad it worked out for you
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: It'll be in Lucid.
[11:37] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: I wished I knew that (or you telling me). Either way, it was hassle begone.
[11:38] <meowbuntu> kinja-sheep, lucid ?????? check out there site http://www.hydrogen-music.org/?p=download
[11:38] <silv3r_m00n> if I install all packages of synaptic how much space will that require approx. ?
[11:38] <silv3r_m00n> 100gb , 200gb ?
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> !lucid | meowbuntu
[11:38] <Pure> Hey
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: In three months time.  Or somebody will make a PPA/deb for it.
[11:38] <meowbuntu> kinja-sheep, if it is there wont work on karmic will it
[11:39] <Pure> Camn I install the server edition of ubuntu from within windows?
[11:39] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: :) - looking back I see what happened - before I could tell you to leave it blank you told me "didn't work" - so I assumed you  were doing the right thing :)
[11:39] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu: For one application, it should be okay, but you're welcome to test it.
[11:39] <uchimata> hi, has anyone an idea which global settings file has to be adjusted to define the keymap for a newly created user -- cli based? or any documentation about the gconf schema files in /usr/share/gconf?
[11:39] <guntbert> meowbuntu: hydrogen is definitely in the repos for karmic
[11:40] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: The instruction were told to make the keyring password same as the login/user password.  Arrrg! :-)
[11:40] <meowbuntu> guntbert, kinja-sheep i found one for i386 strange its ino in offical hydrogen site though ay https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/i386/hydrogen
[11:41] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: thats what usually works - *if* you login with your password - but otherwise ...
[11:42] <guntbert> meowbuntu: please tell my, why you don't use hydrogen from the repos!
[11:42] <guntbert> *me
[11:42] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Within Windows? If you mean !virtual, you can. Have fun playing with it.
[11:42] <error404notfound> I have a free partition of about 4G, What if i dd chrome os image on that? what entry should i add to my grub?
[11:42] <Pure> No, I mean over my current install
[11:42] <Akkernight> how is ubuntu support for tablets?
[11:42] <Pure> Replacing windows
[11:43] <meowbuntu> gun its not in synaptic ok
[11:43] <meowbuntu> ^ guntbert
[11:43] <meowbuntu> guntbert, i do not know where reop is for it ok
[11:44] <Pure> I've seen programs that do it, but I want to install server over XP
[11:44]  * Pure doesn't like GUI
[11:44] <iceroot> meowbuntu: apt-cache search hydrogen
[11:44] <guntbert> meowbuntu: it is - did you enable universe? then "reload"
[11:45] <kinja-sheep> error404notfound: Ask in #grub.  If I remember it correctly, use "update-grub" or "grub-mkconfig" -- There are os-prober script that will search for linux and other OS which will generate the result in grub.cfg.
[11:45] <error404notfound> kinja-sheep, thanks
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Grab Ubuntu-Server ISO. Burn the disc. Pop it in. Reboot. Install Server. (Bye bye Windows).
[11:47] <Pure> I don't have any cds
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> Pure: How about USB? There are many ways to install.
[11:48] <Pure> How would I install from usb?
[11:48] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: btw I actually told you to remove the password <guntbert>  ... I removed the password from the keyring
[11:48] <kinja-sheep> Pure: unetbootin, maybe. Is this the only machine you own? (ie, any other way for you to stay on #ubuntu with us).
[11:49] <vlt> Hello. I have several ubnutu servers in my network. Now my (maybe stupid) question: How could someone attack google's servers with a Browser? What do I have to do to protect my systems?
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> guntbert: Well, I apologized for not paying attention.
[11:49] <Pure> I have 3 machines
[11:49] <Pure> This is my main one, I'm keeping it windows
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Okay. unetbootin should be able to get the job done.
[11:49] <Pure> One has 20GB HDD with XP on, I want to put server on that
[11:49] <kinja-sheep> !unetbootin | Pure
[11:49] <meowbuntu> hi is there a list of apps where i can find all the aps useful for creating backing tracks for musicians
[11:49] <guntbert> kinja-sheep: :) - no problem at all - it was more a question of my mental sanity :-))
[11:50] <vlt> meowbuntu: Look at what comes with !ubuntustudio
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> Pure: I like zcat the 12MB-something tar.gz to usb and install it over network myself. You can try that if unetbootin does not work.
[11:50] <guntbert> meowbuntu: did you get hydrogen yet?
[11:50] <Pure> Do I need to kill my flash drive?
[11:51] <zetheroo> I am converting an AVI to FLV but the output file is really bad quality ... how do people get mice crisp videos up on YouTube?
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> Pure: Formatting. That will happen, yes.
[11:51] <Pure> Erf
[11:51] <silv3r_m00n> I want to create 4 partitions on a 1Tb hd.... like 250x4 .... so shud I make all of them primary ....or first one primary and rest 3 inside an extended partition ?
[11:51] <meowbuntu> gun yes i found it was already installed. i forgot i had installed all the packds when installing
[11:51] <vlt> zetheroo: Maybe by uploading mp4/h264 video and let yt convert it
[11:51] <Pure> Would I be able to use Symantec Ghost?
[11:51] <iceroot> !tab | meowbuntu
[11:52] <Pure> or similar
[11:52] <andyl> do you guys think running a ubuntu on a quad core cpu (core 2 quad) is overkill ?
[11:52] <zetheroo> vlt: MP4? ok ... will try .. it might be a big file though ...
[11:52] <meowbuntu> iceroot, thansk i have been using irc for 7 months i know that
[11:52] <iceroot> meowbuntu: then use it :)
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> andyl: You'll have fast time encoding videos. How is that not overkill? Also, operating systems are more of personal choices, not competitions.
[11:53] <meowbuntu> i do just sometimes it will not work
[11:53] <meowbuntu> iceroot, i know what you mean. dont be all i am better than you
[11:54] <andyl> ok
[11:54] <meowbuntu> iceroot, we are all equal here.
[11:54] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: That depends on what you want to do with the partitions. (In most cases I'd recommend using LVM anyway)
[11:54] <iceroot> meowbuntu: dont flame me, just use complet nicks in this chat because of highlight
[11:54] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: lvm ?
[11:55] <vlt> !lvm | silv3r_m00n
[11:55] <meowbuntu> iceroot, whatever
[11:55] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: For simple setups ignore the RAID part ;-)
[11:55] <Pure> What do most bioses mean by network boot?
[11:55] <iceroot> Pure: booting an os over the network using PXE (thin clients do it)
[11:55] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: But you should know first what you're actually need
[11:56] <vlt> Pure: PXE I think
[11:56] <Pure> I'm wodnering if the computer supports it
[11:56] <iceroot> Pure: the bios has to support it
[11:56] <Pure> So, could I boot the installer over PXE?
[11:57] <iceroot> Pure: no
[11:57] <Pure> Ghost it?
[11:57] <iceroot> Pure: you need a terminal-server for that
[11:57] <Pure> Any thing over the network?
[11:57] <vlt> Pure: You can also install a tiny PXE boot image to another bootable medium like floppy, usb or even the network card's ROM. See www.etherboot.org for example
[11:58] <kinja-sheep> Pure: PXE is more complicated than USB installation. It works by having one machine serving boot files and any other machines with PXE-capable booting (then obtain files from the first machine)... to install stuffs.
[11:59] <Pure> I wonder if that 1GB flash drive still works...
[11:59] <vlt> Pure: PXE is a collection of protocols. First the client does DHCP, then TFTP for the kernel
[11:59] <guntbert> iceroot: thanks for trying - you didn't deserve the harsh words from meowbuntu :)
[11:59] <iceroot> guntbert: i dont care :)
[11:59] <guntbert> iceroot: :)
[12:00] <Pure> I might see if I can find some floppies later
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: over here http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MfwRx_4ERx8/Sa6_NX-VJ2I/AAAAAAAAAxI/m5gNeh84icA/s400/ubuntu-partition-9.jpg   how to do lvm or raid ?
[12:01] <Pure> Might be a bit of overkill on the number of floppies
[12:02] <iceroot> Pure: why not using a normal installation? or the netinstall image?
[12:02] <Pure> Because I'm REALLY awkward
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Grab another hard drive. Something small for Core. Use 1TB for Media.  Keep things separate and clean.
[12:02] <Pure> netinstall?
[12:02] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: What exactly do you need?
[12:02] <iceroot> !netinstall | Pure
[12:03] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: I want to create 4 partitions 250gb each on a 1tb hdd.....now shud all 4 be primary or 1st shud be primary and rest 3 logical into 1 extended
[12:03] <silv3r_m00n> e.g. http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/images/install-new-partition-second-div.png
[12:03] <kinja-sheep> iceroot: He want to install server edition, not desktop. I advised him to use USB. It is also fast too.
[12:04] <jeeez> is there any tool(s) for monitoring network usage? i want an hourly report on how much data was uploaded/downloaded
[12:04] <Pure> Ah, I see
[12:04] <schultza> !sound
[12:05] <meowbuntu-afk> is it ok to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in ubuntu studio.
[12:05] <iceroot> kinja-sheep: imo there is also netinstall for server
[12:05] <iceroot> meowbuntu-afk: sure
[12:05] <ruohki> i used usb-modeswitch to set it into the right mode
[12:06] <ruohki> damnit... this goes first =) i used usb-modeswitch to set it into the right mode
[12:06] <ruohki> ...
[12:06] <ruohki> hello, got a little problem with my umts-stick its huawai k3765.
[12:07] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: I use nethogs but I don't know if it is capable of outputting (for scripts).
[12:07] <vlt> silv3r_m00n: That depends on what you want to do with the partitions.
[12:07] <jeeez> kinja-sheep: i don't need it to be too detailed! visual output would do :)
[12:08] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: It is CLI command. From the point you ran the command, you can see how many MB it collects up to.
[12:09] <jeeez> thats awesome! i think  its exactly what i'm looking for. let me check it out
[12:09] <schultza> Grrr. I really dont want to get another computer just for linux.
[12:10] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: Press m to switch between total and kb/s mode
[12:10] <schultza> Who's good with audio? I'm having problems with an HP dv7-2185dx where I plug in the headset, and it still plays on the speakers. It plays on the headset at the same time. Computer is only seeing one Analog audio card on lspci.
[12:10] <jeeez> kinja-sheep:  you read minds, dude?
[12:11] <kinja-sheep> jeeez: If I could, I would have scared you by answering your question before you asked. Fortunately, no.
[12:12] <jeeez> kinja-sheep: will look forward to that! thanks man :)
[12:12] <kinja-sheep> schultza: You might want to try padevchooser
[12:12] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: ubuntu on first and backups on rest
[12:12] <schultza> installed. How do I access it?
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> schultza: Application --> Sound --> Have fun.
[12:13] <Real_Ubot> I can't login to my ssh server using keys. I get "Permission denied (publickey)." Anyone know why I get this message?
[12:13] <aliquerer> I need to create a serveron my desktop, so that i can start a blog for personal use only. How do I do?
[12:14] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: Will your blog be accesible from internet?
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: https://www.blogger.com/
[12:14] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: no i dont want it to be accesible from internet
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> BlouBlou: Personal Use? You want Tomboy.
[12:15] <silv3r_m00n> vlt: ?
[12:15] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: In that case install wordpress
[12:16] <meowbuntu-afk> is this a valid command in ubuntu. .      sudo aptitude install (apname)
[12:16] <BlouBlou> kinja-sheep: Thanks, but I am helping to aliquerer, he is who wants it, not me :)
[12:16] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: yes that was my intention :) but i need to install a server on my computer to use wordpress. Right?
[12:16] <guntbert> meowbuntu-afk: yes - aptitude is another packet manager like apt-get
[12:17] <schultza> I even turned on notifications. It's not seeing when I [un]plug the headset
[12:17] <c0ndr> Request: does someone suggest me a free web hosting? thanks
[12:17] <iflema> meowbuntu-afk yes
[12:17] <BlouBlou> aliquerer: That depends, apache is good server, but it's used for internet connections (or local), if you want be accesible from your pc only just install wordpress, and open blog with firefox via "file://"
[12:17] <meowbuntu-afk> guntbert, aptitude does more than apt-get right
[12:17] <Real_Ubot> I think ssh-copy-id hasn't added a public key to my ssh server authorization file. Why isn't ssh-copy-id working?
[12:18] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu-afk: aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, software center, gdebi -- all valid.
[12:18] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu-afk: Whoops, I forget dpkg.
[12:19] <schultza> I think I may go back to the last LTS and see if it works.
[12:19] <guntbert> meowbuntu-afk: they are both frontends to the same back-end - they do some things different - I prefer aptitude (one thing - it autoremoves packages which where only pulled in for a dependency when you remove the dependant app)
[12:19]  * meowbuntu-afk laughs at the ripp-off nickname of Real_Ubot 
[12:19] <schultza> Where can I find the Alsa mixer?
[12:20] <guntbert> *were
[12:20] <kinja-sheep> schultza: It is matter of configuration before you get it working. alsamixer is in alsa-utils.
[12:21] <meowbuntu-afk> schultza, in terminal type alsamixer
[12:21] <meowbuntu-afk> schultza, i use gnome-alsamixer its a fruntend for alsamixer just easier to use
[12:21] <schultza> Sound is coming out of both speaker and headset. It's a mixing issue.
[12:22] <schultza> Yes. Where is the GUI for this. Front and Speaker are listed in Alsamixer.
[12:22] <aliquerer> BlouBlou: i dont get it the installation seems very complicated. How do i install it on my omputer?
[12:23] <iflema> schultza in the sound preferences, on the output tab, do you have an option to select connector?
[12:23] <schultza> sound pref? hmmm
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> !info lighttpd | aliquerer
[12:24] <iflema> System / Preferences / sound
[12:24] <schultza> Nope.... Only lists one item. Internal Audio Analog Stereo.
[12:24] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: It is minimal. Just put stuffs in /var/www or set up symbolic links to a folder.
[12:24] <aliquerer> ubottu: i dont want to create a webserver i want to keep the blog on my computer
[12:25] <aliquerer> kinja-sheep: i dont want to create a webserver i want to keep the blog on my computer
[12:25] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: You can configure the webserver to serve localhost or LAN.
[12:25] <iflema> schultza System / Preferences / sound, output tab, connector selector?
[12:25] <schultza> iflema: Nope. Only lists one item. "Internal Audio Analog Stereo".
[12:26] <schultza> iflema: No. It just says Choose a device for sound output (which lists one). Settings for selected device shows Balance only. No other options on that tab.
[12:27] <aliquerer> kinja-sheep:: how do i install lighttpd?
[12:27] <kinja-sheep> aliquerer: sudo aptitude install lighttpd
[12:28] <iflema> schultza switching between different settings under the hardware tab may open this option
[12:29] <schultza> Internal Audio vs ATI Video card's HDMI... nope.. staying Internal Audio... profile lists several options...
[12:30] <schultza> Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo Output, Digital Stereo (IEC958) Ouput + Analog Stereo Input, Digital Stereo Duplex (IEC958), Analog Stereo Input, and Off.
[12:31] <schultza> None of which changes the Output tab to where you were talking about.
[12:32] <melfy> so i just plugged up an external hdd to ubuntu and nothing pops up any suggestions?  it's a 40gb formatted ntfs and ntfs-3g was already installed =/
[12:32] <ikonia> melfy: does it not show an icon on the desktop /
[12:32] <kinja-sheep> melfy: Does "sudo fdisk -l" list a new hard drive?
[12:32] <melfy> nothing, and nothing under mnt or media
[12:33] <melfy> doesn't look like it
[12:34] <kinja-sheep> melfy: Meh, try different USB port or if your external HDD need to be powered on? (missing power cable?)
[12:34] <melfy> will check diff port, it has power adaptor and light is on
[12:36] <melfy> that worked, asking me to force mount now... that was odd thanks :O lol
[12:38] <petsounds> hi. does anybody use gmameui for playing games? i have donwload gmameui but i don't know how can i play classic game on it. i try to load the roms but it doesn't work.
[12:38] <bazhang> petsounds, downloaded from where
[12:39] <silv3r_m00n> does the ubuntu live cd have gparted
[12:39] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[12:39] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, yes
[12:39] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Yes.
[12:39] <petsounds> bazhang, gmameui from synaptic and the roms from googling.
[12:40] <floating_> I installed lxde, and tried to remove gdm from starting at boot, but still it starts. Tried removing it with update-rc.d and rconf. any ways I know why it still starts ?
[12:40] <floating_> rcconfrcconf
[12:41] <bazhang> petsounds, not sure sdlmame has worked here in the past
[12:42] <bazhang> floating_, what version of ubuntu
[12:42] <floating_> 9.10
[12:42] <bazhang> floating_, lubuntu-desktop package ?
[12:42] <kitikri> hey guys, something really weird happening with my box - Alt+Fn changes consoles. for example, Alt-F4 closes a window and immediately after that changes to VTY4. any hints? :/
[12:43] <c3l> What program would be best for ripping cd's to various mp3 qualities? flac should be possible too
[12:43] <floating_> bazhang: nope. I installed lxde though after adding the ppa with lubuntu-desktop packages. So when I just did apt-get install lxde, I think it picked up a newer pcmanfm from that ppa maybe?
[12:43] <guntbert> kitikri: is <ctrl> active/locked/... ?
[12:44] <edakiri> what is the default firefox homepage for KK?
[12:45] <floating_> bazhang: I guess I can try install that package instead of lxde, first purging the lxde ?
[12:45] <kitikri> guntbert, I'm not sure, but it definitely isn't stuck lol. sticky keys are off, if that's what you mean
[12:45] <bazhang> floating_, not sure about that PPA; wish I could advise better, sorry
[12:46] <floating_> I wonder if I can uninstall lxde with just apt-get remove lxde, or do I need to purge something
[12:46] <bazhang> installed with aptitude?
[12:46] <HypothesisFrog> hi. I would like to get one of those printers that has a CD tray, and can print directly to a CD face. Can ubuntu drive those things easily? Is there a printer you can recommend?
[12:47] <guntbert> kitikri: it could be a bit of dust too - I'm asking because usually you get that behaviour with <ctrl><alt>
[12:47] <kinja-sheep> edakiri: Kubuntu does not use firefox by default. Look in Komposer (sp) web browser.
[12:47] <floating_> bazhang: I installed with apt-get
[12:47] <kitikri> guntbert, yep, i double checked :D all is working as usual, ctrl+c copies, etc. I think the X configuration might have something to do with
[12:47] <guntbert> kitikri: then no more ideas - sorry
[12:47] <bazhang> kinja-sheep, kongueror you mean? or other
[12:48] <edakiri> I'm not using Kubuntu.
[12:48] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Yes, that is it. :)
[12:48] <kitikri> guntbert, thanks anyway :]
[12:48] <kinja-sheep> HypothesisFrog: I think any LightScribe printer will work since LightScribe have provide a driver for it -- http://tinyurl.com/us5un
[12:49] <kinja-sheep> HypothesisFrog: You'll have to get a special dust color discs.
[12:49] <iflema> c3l try sound-juicer
[12:49] <c3l> iflema, ty
[12:49] <HypothesisFrog> kinja-sheep special dust colour?
[12:50] <kinja-sheep> HypothesisFrog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightScribe#Other_uses
[12:50] <creatrixsblood> can anyone help me with kdenlive issues?
[12:50] <HypothesisFrog> kinja-sheep thanks
[12:50] <kinja-sheep> HypothesisFrog: Look at the whole thing. It is not your everyday discs.
[12:51] <silv3r_m00n> kinja-sheep: any idea on my earlier query .... 4 primary partitions or 2 primay + 2 logical or 1 primary + 3 logical ?
[12:51] <TimothyA> how do i check all text files on the system for a specific word?
[12:51] <Riverthief> Sup guise
[12:52] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Grab small hard drive for Core(OS). Use 1TB for Storage(Media).  Keep things separate and clean.
[12:52] <Riverthief> I was wondering, how do I setup Tor in Ubuntu 9.10? Or any good VPN for that matter
[12:52] <iceroot> TimothyA: grep -ir *.text /  i would use  if the ending is text
[12:52] <silv3r_m00n> I have only 1 hdd
[12:52] <silv3r_m00n> that's a 1TB
[12:52] <iceroot> TimothyA: ah wrong mom
[12:52] <iceroot> TimothyA: grep -ir string-to-find /  i would use  if the ending is text
[12:53] <c3l> iflema, how do I set that I want to use V0 as encoding, or 320kbps or so=
[12:53] <iflema> TimothyA find
[12:54] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: You're having hard time deciding what to set up for partitions. I say forget it. What if you want to format and reinstall? Then you'll have to deal with partitioning and workaround (as not to lose data).
[12:54] <Riverthief> So...anyone know?
[12:54] <kitikri> Riverthief, hamachi is a nice and easy way to use vpn :]
[12:54] <Riverthief> So...it's a VPN on it's own?
[12:54] <silv3r_m00n> kinja-sheep: hmm
[12:55] <kitikri> yep, although it's not the same as Tor
[12:55] <creatrixsblood>  can anyone help me with kdenlive issues?
[12:55] <kitikri> tor just bounces your connection through multiple nodes, thus hiding your ip
[12:55] <Riverthief> Yup
[12:56] <kitikri> I use hamachi all the time to connect to pcs behind NAT
[12:56] <kitikri> you should check it out :)
[12:56] <Riverthief> So, hamachi is a VPN, Onion network, squid proxy, or......?
[12:56] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: I have a machine dedicated to HTPC (Home Theater PC) running XBMC, I have 20GB for that plus 2TB for media. Also, I have a home machine using 20GB for core, and 3 of 300GB.
[12:56] <TimothyA> how do i check all text files on the system for a specific word?
[12:56] <kitikri> hamachi is a vpn
[12:56] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: It is easier if you format the whole hard drive and use folders instead of partitions.
[12:57] <kitikri> links a couple of pcs as if they're in the same LAN
[12:57] <Riverthief> Is it in the repositories? I can't find it anywhere lol
[12:57] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: This way, it is cheap and worth in the long run.
[12:57] <vlt> TimothyA: grep, maybe in combination with find
[12:57] <LjL> kitikri: well, tor does more than that, although that might not be relevant
[12:57] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:58] <kitikri> LjL, yes, I'm not very familiar with Tor anyway :)
[12:59] <kitikri> Riverthief, use http://tinyurl.com/ydwk6th
[12:59] <iflema> TimothyA find / -type f -exec grep "text-" {} /dev/null \;
[13:00] <soopos> What is the encoding that has tags "<80>" and "<98>"?
[13:00] <kitikri> there also must be a howto on installing it in the forums :]
[13:00] <Riverthief> Tyvm kitikri :)
[13:00] <userfriendly> 'ello. i need libboost for thrift, at least version 1.34.0 - is it recommendable that i stick with that version or use one of the available newer ones? the karmic repo sure has a lot of them, up to 1.40.0
[13:00] <Indy^> I gonna ask a very newbie question here but Im trying to start Putty on startup to run in the background after the internet connect starts...so I have sleep:60; Putty -load Proxy but this will attach to a terminal window what is the command line to run it in the brackground
[13:00] <iflema> c3l  select ouptput format then edit... then do homework ;)
[13:00] <Riverthief> URL of forums?
[13:00] <c3l> iflema, ooowh, i dont understand how to set those settings. is there some example or so that I can look at?
[13:01] <Riverthief> All I see is some page with no forum link lol
[13:01] <Riverthief> Like, on hamachi.cc
[13:02] <iflema> TimothyA yeah
[13:03] <TimothyA> can I have an example? :)
[13:03] <TimothyA> ah, it's up there
[13:03] <TimothyA> wait, what's the /dev/null about?
[13:04] <hatake_kakashi> a device where nothing exists, so if you send anything there, you won't get it back
[13:04] <Craig_Dem> What is the ubuntu info package called?
[13:04] <Craig_Dem> That gives the distro name and software sources correctly.
[13:05] <iflema> TimothyA put ya word where it says text.... dont ask me how it works... it just does
[13:06] <TimothyA> iflema; it doesn't
[13:06] <TimothyA> it just throws everything at me
[13:06] <TimothyA> instead of what I'm looking for
[13:06] <iflema> does 4 me
[13:07] <TimothyA> guess I'll just reset my IP
[13:07] <iflema> TimothyA you want to find a file by searching one word? yes/no.
[13:07] <kitikri> Riverthief, http://tinyurl.com/y8lrsyw it's a bit old, but it should give you some guidance
[13:08] <iflema> TimothyA one word contained in a file?
[13:08] <TimothyA> yep
[13:08] <iflema> TimothyA find / -type f -exec grep "text-" {} /dev/null \;
[13:08] <iflema> TimothyA put ya word where it says text.... dont ask me how it works... it just does
[13:08] <TimothyA> but it doesn't!
[13:08] <Riverthief> K man, ty :). Now, just so I know we're on the same wavelength, this will hide my ip address, right?
[13:09] <iflema> TimothyA ok
[13:09] <jrib> iflema: what is the /dev/null for?
[13:10] <iflema> jrib as i said... dont ask me how it works... it just does
[13:11]  * jrib does not believe one should run commands he does not understand
[13:11]  * kinja-sheep randomly start nuking his machines
[13:13] <jrib> iflema: seems like it was a trick to get grep to print filenames if grep didn't have -H
[13:14] <iflema> jrib you wanna make it look pretty?
[13:14] <jrib> iflema: hmm?  no, I just like to understand things :)
[13:15] <iflema> jrib do you know of /dev/null?
[13:15] <jrib> iflema: yes
[13:16] <TimothyA> I suddendly have 60% more harddisk space
[13:17] <iflema> lol
[13:23] <iflema> one for the hackers toolkit ;)
[13:24] <Sturskycz> hello
[13:24] <Sturskycz> i need help
[13:25] <Sturskycz> how can I ask help?
[13:25] <iflema> !ask
[13:25] <Sturskycz> excuse me
[13:26] <Sturskycz> but i'm novel
[13:26] <Sturskycz> !ask
[13:26] <LjL> Sturskycz: ask your question.
[13:26] <Sturskycz> in english or in italian?
[13:26] <LjL> in english
[13:26] <Sturskycz> ok
[13:26] <LjL> if you want to ask it in italian, join #ubuntu-it
[13:31] <meowbuntu-afk> hi is there a command to terminate all running apps at once
[13:32] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: there is one to terminate all running *processes*, but processes are more than just your graphical apps, so you may not want to do that
[13:32] <Sturskycz> I have a hardisk of 500 GB. First, I have installed ubuntu 8.10 on 50 gb and then i have installed xp pro sp2 on 450 gb. My problem is that when i turn on pc it starts with xp. So with live cd ubuntu I have typed in terminal a series of strings, and now my pc starts with ubuntu, but I don't see xp. help help
[13:33] <meowbuntu-afk> LjL, well all running apps then
[13:33] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: isn't that similar to logging out?
[13:33] <soopos> How can you solve the permission denied about cython at http://dpaste.com/146011/ ?
[13:34] <Sturskycz> now I have upgraded ubuntu version to 9.04
[13:34] <Sturskycz> but i don't see xp the same
[13:35] <iflema> Sturskycz in a terminal type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. edit this you will
[13:35] <jrib> !info cython | soopos
[13:35] <jrib> soopos: use the repositories grasshopper
[13:35] <meowbuntu-afk> oh you mean Ctrl+Alt+backspace or menu>exit>logout
[13:35] <meowbuntu-afk> ^ LjL
[13:35] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: yes - although ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't really work anymore, so now that would be alt+sysrq+k
[13:37] <ChogyDan> Sturskycz: you could upgrade to grub2, that should give you the os detection script, which will automate adding windows to your menu
[13:37] <meowbuntu-afk> sysrq = ??????
[13:37] <soopos> jrib: What is "repositories grasshopper"?
[13:37] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: it's usually on the printscreen key
[13:37] <bazhang> !repos | soopos
[13:37] <Sturskycz> ok
[13:37] <Sturskycz> I try grub2
[13:37] <soopos> jrib: Do you mean to get the tarball of cython at its homepage and then install it manually?
[13:38] <Sturskycz> how can i upgraded to grub2?
[13:38] <LjL> soopos: no, he means the exact opposite
[13:38] <jrib> soopos: no, do you know about Synaptic?
[13:38] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install cython
[13:38] <meowbuntu-afk> LjL, do i need to press shift to use sysrq
[13:38] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: no
[13:39] <ChogyDan> !grub2 | Sturskycz
[13:39] <soopos> jrib: Yes, I do
[13:39] <jrib> soopos: I mean for you to use it
[13:40] <meowbuntu-afk> LjL, well all alt+sysrq+k is doing is printing screen
[13:40] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: uh, weird.
[13:40] <meowbuntu-afk> nope
[13:41] <soopos> jrib: I already reinstalled the package with synaptic, but the problem seems to remain as there is no cython at /usr/local/bin/
[13:41] <jrib> soopos: there shouldn't be any cython in /usr/local/.  Why are you looking for it there?  Pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy cython »
[13:43] <soopos> jrib: http://pastebin.com/f2630358d
[13:43] <meowbuntu-afk> ctrl+alt+backspavce dont work y
[13:44] <meowbuntu-afk> * backspace
[13:44] <jrib> soopos: and my first question?
[13:45] <Powderking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server to an embedded system (Alix2d2 with AMD Geode). I described my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381446. What is the best way to do this?
[13:45] <meowbuntu-afk> LjL, what about ctrl+alt+F1
[13:46] <LjL> meowbuntu-afk: that doesn't kill anything, it just *switches* to a textmode terminal, but X and all apps are still there
[13:46] <soopos> jrib: The installation seems to refer to it
[13:46] <jrib> soopos: that's for manual installation.  You have installed it already by installing the cython package.  Move on to actually using cython
[13:48] <soopos> jrib: But what about the permission denied message in the install.log
[13:48] <soopos> jrib: Why is the system trying to install cython as I have it?
[13:48] <jrib> soopos: well that's part of "installing".  Move on to "using".  Here: http://docs.cython.org/src/quickstart/build.html
[13:48] <jrib> soopos: your system doesn't do anything you don't tell it to
[13:49] <jrib> soopos: is there something other than using cython you are trying to do?
[13:50] <e-i-k-e> can someone help me tih this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188099
[13:50] <e-i-k-e> Run a particular program but prevent it from accessing the Internet
[13:51] <soopos> jrib: I am trying to build my first deb package by upgrading SageMath 3.x to 4.x.
[13:51] <e-i-k-e> i made exactly what written but when doing sudo /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables_no-internet_rule
[13:51] <e-i-k-e> i only get this result
[13:51] <ruadh> Hi. Can anyone tell me if there is a good publisher available for Ubuntu. I am using version 9.10
[13:51] <e-i-k-e> iptables v1.4.4: owner: Bad value for "--gid-owner" option: "no-internet"
[13:51] <e-i-k-e> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[13:51] <jrib> soopos: sage isn't a great first package, iirc it's a pain to package
[13:52] <jrib> !packaging | soopos
[13:52] <soopos> jrib: It has take me now about two one weak in understanding the code, it just so large
[13:53] <soopos> jrib: Where should I get the ouput of the command :!packagin | soopos"?
[13:53] <LjL> soopos: here.
[13:53] <jrib> soopos: it isn't a command.  It just asked ubottu to give you some info
[13:53] <kinja-sheep> !info scribus | ruadh (maybe)
[13:53] <soopos> jrib: It gives me nothing
[13:54] <meowbuntu-afk> btw is there a webbrowser that uses less resoruces than firefox that can stil handle everthing ff can
[13:54] <jrib> soopos: read what ubottu said to you above
[13:54] <ruadh> thanks :
[13:54] <kinja-sheep> meowbuntu-afk: epiphany or midori -- What do you mean handle everything FF can?
[13:54] <soopos> jrib: ubottu has said me nothing at all
[13:54] <jrib> soopos: scroll up then
[13:55] <soopos> jrib: lastloging does not find any entry by ubottu
[13:55] <jrib> soopos: then your lastlog is broken
[13:55] <LjL> soopos: [14:52:11] <ubottu> soopos: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[13:57] <meowbuntu-afk> sh: inxi: not found
[13:57] <meowbuntu-afk> sh: inxi: not found
[13:58] <ben_germany> hi guys!
[13:58] <ben_germany> does anyone have a little time to help me with a problem?
[13:59] <[NL]Tjibba> just ask
[14:00] <ben_germany> alright
[14:00] <ben_germany> i just installed ubuntu
[14:00] <ben_germany> and i have an ati graphics card, so i downloaded the drivers from their website
[14:00] <ben_germany> afterwards ubuntu told me it wanted to update some stuff
[14:00] <ben_germany> so i did that
[14:00] <ben_germany> and now after the reboot, the ati driver seems kind of messed up
[14:00] <Diverdude> I am running matlab. It seems that when I have done some very heavy calculations in matlab, the entire linux system starts to lag and the header disappears from the windows so I cannot move them around and basically I have to restart the machine before its good again. This happens even if I close matlab after the calculations. What is the cause of that?
[14:01] <ben_germany> i can still use the hdmi port and all resolutions, but i cannot use desktop effects on normal or high, and the scrolling is awfully slow
[14:01] <soopos> jrib: My irssi is running at my Uni's server. They are very paranoid. It is apparent that they have blocked something which blocks the piping to me
[14:01] <ruadh> kinja-sheep, ubottu: got it, d/l it and it looks good. Thanks
[14:02] <HypothesisFrog> where's a good place to store fonts on ubuntu? /usr/share/fonts ?
[14:02] <kinja-sheep> ruadh: Great. There also are inkscape and gimp but that's more of artistic. However, I find inkscape to be easy after few hours of practices and I was able to make a nice restaurant meal out of it.
[14:02] <jrib> soopos: there's no piping, ubottu just sends you text the same way I do
[14:02] <ben_germany> should i just reinstall the ati drivers?
[14:02] <jrib> kinja-sheep: wait.  I can make /meals/ in inkscape?
[14:02] <ben_germany> or would that be bad^^
[14:03] <kinja-sheep> jrib: Make a brochure. Chomp chomp it away.
[14:03] <jrib> ben_germany: if you installed the ati drivers manually by downloading them, then you need to always reinstall them after a kernel upgrade.  It's easier if you just use the repositories
[14:03] <jrib> !ati > ben_germany
[14:03] <Diverdude> I am running matlab. It seems that when I have done some very heavy calculations in matlab, the entire linux system starts to lag and the header disappears from the windows so I cannot move them around and basically I have to restart the machine before its good again. This happens even if I close matlab after the calculations. What is the cause of that?
[14:03] <jrib> !repeat | Diverdude
[14:03] <meowbuntu-afk> Sensors:   Error: You do not have the sensors app installed.
[14:03] <ben_germany> alright :)
[14:03] <ben_germany> thank you ;)
[14:03] <meowbuntu-afk> Audio:     Card C-Media Electronics CM8738 driver C-Media PCI
[14:03] <meowbuntu-afk>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.20
[14:04] <meowbuntu-afk> System:    Host stubuntu Kernel 2.6.31-9-rt i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[14:04] <bullgard5> '~$ gdb ekiga 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-ekiga.txt; ... Reading symbols from /usr/bin/ekiga...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb)' gdb stays at this prompt. How to quit gdb?
[14:05] <jrib> bullgard5: 'quit'
[14:06] <bullgard5> jrib: Thank you very much for your help.
[14:08] <fmagno> Hi, I'm trying to remove some shortcuts that remain in   "Applications->Others", but when I press right-button on "Applications" and try to click on "Edit Menus" nothing happens (no menu appears)... How can I manually erase these files? Where are these files resident?
[14:08] <fmagno> btw, I have Ubuntu 9.10
[14:08] <jiohdi> I screwed up my gnome... says your last session was only 10 sec... and something about re-installing... xfce works, kde works, openbox works, but gnome only goes back to log in window
[14:08] <jiohdi> help?
[14:09] <kinja-sheep> fmagno: On left pane (Menus), be sure to highlight either "Applications" and untick "Other" on right pane.
[14:09] <kinja-sheep> fmagno: Or on left pane "other" then untick whatever (on right).
[14:10] <vinnie_> i just loaded kubuntu daily live on to my usb drive with unetbootin. when i boot into it and come to kdm screen, whats the user and password im supose to login with?
[14:11] <dKingston> question
[14:12] <dKingston> is there a video to audio converter somewhere
[14:15] <Powderking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server to an embedded system (Alix2d2 with AMD Geode). I described my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381446. What is the best way to do this?
[14:17] <vlt> dKingston: How do want to make audio from video data?
[14:17] <LjL> dKingston: ... http://www.seeingwithsound.com/
[14:17] <vinnie_> dKingston: avidemux will allow you to save the audio file
[14:18] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[14:18] <vinnie_> dKingston: avidemux will allow you to save the audio file
[14:18] <vlt> dKingston: Ah, I see ... ffmpeg can do that to
[14:19] <bullgard5> [Karmic] The DEB program package ekiga-dbg is installed. '~$ gdb ekiga 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-ekiga.txt; GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0-ubuntu; (no debugging symbols found)...done.' What went wrong?
[14:20] <Tm_T> bullgard5: ekiga uses some libraries which -dbg packages you need then
[14:21] <Powderking> For me the best way seems PXE installation. I have a running DHCP server on my computer and a TFTP-server. The client gets an IP but stucks afterwards. Do I need to activate serial output over RS232 anyhow?
[14:22] <vlt> Powderking: Did the dhcpd tell the client what file to load?
[14:22] <bullgard5> Tm_T: But gdm does not tell me what libraries it needs additionally. How should I proceed?
[14:23] <mikeyfbi2> i'm in failsafe terminal, is there any command to boot from cd?
[14:24] <mikeyfbi2> can you force boot from cd, from terminal?
[14:24] <Tm_T> bullgard5: see to which libraries ekiga package depends
[14:24] <vlt> mikeyfbi2: Not from the shell you're on now. Your BIOS should do that or something like ultimatebootcd.com
[14:24] <mikeyfbi2> vlt, yeah bios fails ... it's set to boot first, but never does ... i'll check that link
[14:25] <Powderking> vlt: Yes, my /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357580/
[14:26] <B3rz3rk3r> mikeyfbi2, that is a BIOS option. If its not working then the either the disk doesnt work (corrupt/not properly burned), or something else is trying to take priority in which case remove all other option from the list
[14:26] <mikeyfbi2> B3rz3rk3r, this is definitely the case, i just dont know how to fix it ... so im looking for a way around it
[14:26] <B3rz3rk3r> mikeyfbi2, you could also just manually choose to boot from disk during POST
[14:26] <vlt> mikeyfbi2: wait, I think ubcd doens't help when you can't boot from CD ;-)   There's something you can load from grub, but I forgot the name.
[14:26] <flexible> hey, about a week ago i stopped being able to boot into Ubuntu, GRUB failed to load the menu and just forever stayed at "GRUB Loading" - i've given up trying to fix the bootloader... i'm struck another problem. i'm unable to reinstall as the installer either restarts when it begins copying files, or i get an error message saying something along th elines of "unable to copy files to /"
[14:27] <Powderking> Or is there a way to install ubuntu without cd-rom from another linux running on the embedded system?
[14:27] <B3rz3rk3r> flexible, sounds like you need to format the drive and start again
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> !test
[14:28] <mmaruseacph2> hi, i have a fujitsu mobile note taker and i want to use it on ubuntu
[14:28] <BitByte> human resource management?
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> !netboot > Powderking
[14:28] <dinosaurvskitten> anyone have any luck with gecko-mediaplayer? Here there's a lot of flickering and there is no audio at all.
[14:28] <mmaruseacph2> are there any drivers or applications that i need to install?
[14:29] <dinosaurvskitten> mozilla-mplayer at least sort of worked
[14:29] <mmaruseacph2> it doesn't seem to be working as it is now
[14:29] <arvind_khadri> BitByte, no :)
[14:29] <bullgard5> Tm_T: I scrutinized Synaptic for libraries (having 'lib' in their name) on which ekiga depends. I could not find a single one.
[14:30] <Zanti_nix> What is a good DVD authoring tool to use?
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, apt-get depends ekiga on the terminal grep it with lib
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, sorry apt-cache depends
[14:33] <erUSUL> bullgard5: apt-cache depends ekiga
[14:34] <bullgard5> arvind_khadri, erUSUL: This obtains 27 hits.
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, what exactly are you searching for, it also includes dependencies of libnotify
[14:35] <erUSUL> bullgard5: yes; so? what are you trying to do? i just joined
[14:36] <Gesi> hi
[14:36] <arvind_khadri> !hi
[14:36] <bullgard5> arvind_khadri: Exactly to "see to which libraries ekiga package depends" as Tm_T suggested.
[14:36] <Gesi> can someone help me with tar.gz installing
[14:36] <jrib> Gesi: what are you installing?
[14:37] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, they are the libs on which ekiga depends
[14:37] <Gesi> later have to go
[14:37] <Gesi> sorry
[14:37] <jrib> !software > Gesi
[14:37] <bullgard5> erUSUL:  [Karmic] The DEB program package ekiga-dbg is installed. '~$ gdb ekiga 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-ekiga.txt; GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0-ubuntu; (no debugging symbols found)...done.' What went wrong?
[14:37] <bullgard5> arvind_khadri: Yes.
[14:38] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, ekiga-dbg, is useful when you are debugging ekiga
[14:39] <bullgard5> arvind_khadri: I knew that already before I posted here.
[14:39] <powerproblem> anyone here built a computer or fond of building computers?
[14:40] <MORPHEUS> salve
[14:40] <arvind_khadri> bullgard5, ok, what are you trying to achieve, i wasnt here, when you asked what you wanted...
[14:40] <bullgard5> powerproblem: I built severalo computers. I am not fond of it and not fond of discussing this here.
[14:40] <arvind_khadri> powerproblem, do you have a support question?
[14:41] <bullgard5> s/severalo/several/
[14:41] <bullgard5> arvind_khadri: [Karmic] The DEB program package ekiga-dbg is installed. '~$ gdb ekiga 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-ekiga.txt; GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0-ubuntu; (no debugging symbols found)...done.' What went wrong?
[14:42] <powerproblem> well I built a pc from spair parts but I have no way to connect to the towers power button and was just wondering if there was any way to turn it on without using the towers power button.
[14:42] <Zeonisis> Are there any photo smoothers, like to even skin tone or remove blemishes, for ubuntu?
[14:42] <arvind_khadri> Zeonisis, gimp
[14:42] <powerproblem> I plan to put Ubuntu on it since my last pc with ubuntu was awesome I was making it for a friend
[14:42] <Zeonisis> Can it automate the task?
[14:44] <erUSUL> bullgard5: sorry my router died
[14:44] <llutz> r.i.p.
[14:44] <mmaruseacph2> does anyone know how to integrate a fujitsu note taker on ubuntu?
[14:44] <herpez> hi. when i log in to ubuntu 9.10 the keyring asks for password (i need to define it when i added wireless password), how can i remove keyring?
[14:45] <IdleOne> Zeonisis: you can try Picasa for linux
[14:45] <powerproblem> can someone link me to a hardware support irc?
[14:45] <Zeonisis> Can THAT automate the task?
[14:45] <bazhang> ##hardware powerproblem
[14:45] <powerproblem> thank you
[14:46] <kinja-sheep> Hi -- What is the command that will search for text "keyword" inside files?
[14:46] <llutz> kinja-sheep: rgrep
[14:46] <unop> kinja-sheep, grep
[14:46] <IdleOne> Zeonisis: I am not sure, looking right now to see
[14:48] <bullgard5> erUSUL:   [Karmic] The DEB program package ekiga-dbg is installed. '~$ gdb ekiga 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-ekiga.txt; GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0-ubuntu; (no debugging symbols found)...done.' What went wrong?
[14:48] <tps_> Hi, pidgin does not support web cam, anyone know of any IM client that support web cam?
[14:48] <MORPHEUS> quale il canale italiano?
[14:48] <IdleOne> Zeonisis: I don't see anything that might do what you want but you could do it with GIMP.
[14:48] <erUSUL> bullgard5: you have to install the gdb versions of the main libs the program uses if i read here correctly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSeahorse?highlight=%28gdb%29
[14:48] <arvind_khadri> tps_, it supports cam on xmpp that is google talk
[14:48] <hhlp> !it | MORPHEUS
[14:49] <discoteka> tps.. skype?
[14:49] <erUSUL> bullgard5: debugging seahorse and ekiga should be pretty similar both are gnome programs
[14:49] <MORPHEUS> lo so ogni volta non so quale server utilizare :)
[14:49] <Zeonisis> GIMP does PwNxOr, but It doesn't have a color smoothing tool.
[14:49] <mmaruseacph2> oki, no one seems to see my questions here
[14:49] <Tm_T> !it | MORPHEUS
[14:49] <mmaruseacph2> this is the third day already
[14:49] <mmaruseacph2> :(
[14:49] <kinja-sheep> llutz, unop: Thanks for that rgrep + grep commands.
[14:50] <IdleOne> MORPHEUS: sopra questo server
[14:50] <bullgard5> erUSUL:  How can I identify _ the main libs the program uses_?
[14:50] <llutz> bullgard5: ldd $(which app)
[14:50] <erUSUL> bullgard5: see the ones for seahorse as both are gnome apps both use the same main libs
[14:51] <tps_> arvind_khadri: but do you know of any other IM client that support cam for say, hotmail, yahoo and stuff?
[14:51] <erUSUL> bullgard5: if you want to be 100% sure then install the gdb of the 27 libs ekiga usas
[14:51] <arvind_khadri> tps_, gyachi does it for yahoo
[14:51] <arvind_khadri> tps_, also kopete
[14:51] <unop> tps_, empathy too perhaps
[14:52] <IdleOne> pidgin and empathy do also?
[14:52] <arvind_khadri> but they are only for xmpp unop IdleOne
[14:52] <soopos> !packaging | soopos
[14:53] <unop> arvind_khadri, eh? are you sure? there are plugins for MSN, yahoo, etc IIRC
[14:53] <zoddan> Hi!
[14:53] <fariadantes> hello
[14:53] <IdleOne> !hi | zoddan
[14:53] <arvind_khadri> unop, afaik it doesnt, not very sure though
[14:53] <bullgard5> llutz: '~$ ldd $ekiga; ldd: missing file arguments'
[14:54] <unop> !info telepathy-butterfly | arvind_khadri
[14:54] <fariadantes> i am trying to recover some files from macoes x, using ubuntu live cd
[14:54] <fariadantes> could anyone help?
[14:54] <herpez> how can i rebuild pam.d/gdm to default?
[14:54] <arvind_khadri> unop, he is asking for video support :)
[14:54] <unop> arvind_khadri, i'm pretty sure I read that empathy does webcam for MSN
[14:55] <arvind_khadri> unop, maybe, am not sure
[14:55] <unop> arvind_khadri, in any case, it's not true that empathy does just XMPP
[14:55] <soopos> !gpg | soopos
[14:55] <arvind_khadri> unop, i meant video support, afaik it supports video on xmpp
[14:55] <arvind_khadri> !msgthebot > soopos
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> !msgthebot | soopos
[14:56] <soopos> arvind_khadri: For some unknown reason, I do not receive the bot messages
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> soopos, are you registered?
[14:56] <soopos> * my irssirc is empty, I have clean .irssirc
[14:57] <soopos> arvind_khadri: I am registered at freenode
[14:57] <soopos> arvind_khadri: and logged in so I see "soopos(+ei)"
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> soopos, ask in #freenode, why you dont get it
[14:57] <majukarma> hello, i've got a big problem to solve : Does anybody knows how to unformat a Reformated FAT32 HD ? (i'm trying testdisk package but without success)
[14:57] <F1NDU5> hi
[14:58] <F1NDU5> någon svensk ??
[14:58] <saba_> F1NDU5: ja
[14:58] <PointMan> Um my /usr/local/bin directory has  mode 040777, how do I fix this?
[14:58] <bazhang> !se | F1NDU5
[14:58]  * aprilus t
[14:58] <PointMan> !da
[14:59] <majukarma> Does anybody knows a ubuntu package to recover from damnaged disk ?
[14:59] <IdleOne> !recover
[14:59] <majukarma> thanx a lot !
[15:00] <mandark_aj> hello. I m trying to triple boot my pc with win 7 ubuntu 9.10, and fedora 12. But i am failing to boot from all the three oses. plz help
[15:00] <mandark_aj> hello. I m trying to triple boot my pc with win 7 ubuntu 9.10, and fedora 12. But i am failing to boot from all the three oses. plz help
[15:01] <mandark_aj> hello. I m trying to triple boot my pc with win 7 ubuntu 9.10, and fedora 12. But i am failing to boot from all the three oses. plz help
[15:01] <LjL> !repeat | mandark_aj
[15:01] <airstrike> mandark_aj: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[15:02] <airstrike> 1) follow instructions
[15:02] <airstrike> 2) ???
[15:02] <airstrike> 3) PROFIT!!!
[15:02] <FloodBot1> airstrike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <arvind_khadri> airstrike, lol :P
[15:04] <mandark_aj> airstrike: i have already tried what mentioned in the forum. but the problem is that when i have installed win7 then fedora then ubuntu i am not able to boot into fedora at all. then when i try to do chainlaoder thing, i am not able to find the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:04] <airstrike> arvind_khadri :)
[15:04] <airstrike> mandark_aj: try different set of instructions
[15:04] <djazman85> how to using floppy in ubuntu?
[15:04] <airstrike> mandark_aj: there are quite a few methods there
[15:05] <soopos> !msgthebot | soopos
[15:05] <IdleOne> mandark_aj: 9.10 uses grub2. see !grub2
[15:05] <soopos> !msgthebot | soopos
[15:05] <bazhang> soopos, /msg ubottu
[15:05] <Curly_Q> Has anyone here use Linux compilers that will compile Microsoft source code?
[15:06] <arvind_khadri> Curly_Q, as in ??
[15:06] <erUSUL> !find mingw
[15:06] <erUSUL> !find mingw | Curly_Q
[15:07] <Curly_Q> Is this mingw32 a POSIX compliant compiler?
[15:07] <IdleOne> !info mingw32
[15:08] <Computech> Hello, my floppy drive won't mount for some reason, when i open it it gives an error that it can't make a connection to the location. I believe i had this problem before and solved it with some kind of command to start the floppy drive or something. Does anyone have an idea?
[15:08] <CAPcap> Ekiga cannot talk to Skype right? What Windows programs can Ekiga talk to since it isn't available for Windows.
[15:08] <phox_> Hi! I just installed the nes emulator "fceu" from the software center. How do i open it now? I cant find it in applications, and writing "fceu" in terminal just gives me a bunch of text i dont understand :P
[15:08] <djazman85> how to using floppy drive in file browser?
[15:08] <CAPcap> its under games phox_
[15:08] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: as far as i know posix does not cover any C compiler
[15:09] <phox_> carcap: yeah i know its supposed to be, but it isnt. where else can i open it?
[15:09] <erUSUL> djazman85: is not in PLaces>Computer> ??
[15:09] <Curly_Q> Never heard of that erUSUL.
[15:09] <Taladan> Anyone here ever successfully install and run sql-ledger?
[15:09] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: heard of what?
[15:10] <erUSUL> CAPcap: ekiga works on windows afaik but any SIP client should do i guess
[15:10] <djazman85> i have try detect media, but files in my floppy not show
[15:11] <Curly_Q> Check this out erUSUL:   http://www.lynuxworks.com/products/posix/posix.php3
[15:11] <soopos> bazhang: Do you mean to ask ubottu by the syntax such as "/msg ubottu packaging"?
[15:11] <bazhang> soopos, correct
[15:11] <IdleOne> soopos: yes that is what he meant
[15:12] <jefinc> how do I make it so that I don't require a password everytime I want to mount my harddrives?
[15:12] <Taladan> Let me back up a bit and explain.  I'm thinking about starting my own home based business...and I currently use only (k)ubuntu on my home machines...I've been looking for a linux replacement for Quickbooks and every article I can find touts SQL-Ledger as the best out there.
[15:12] <grawity> jazwec: If they are internal, you should add them to /etc/fstab, to be mounted on boot.
[15:12] <grawity> eh.
[15:12] <grawity> He left :(
[15:12] <aperson> is it safe to clear /var/lib/apt/lists?
[15:13] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: yes i know what posix is, but again posix spec does not cover the compiler only the Operating system API and some tools. Linux is posix compliant bash can be. but there is no spec for a posix compliant C compiler
[15:13] <jazwec> grawity hi to you aswell =]
[15:14] <grawity> jazwec: Ignore that message :|
[15:14] <Curly_Q> What would you conclude in this matter as far as using a Linux compiler erUSUL?
[15:15] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: i dunno; what are you trying to do ? that would help me guess ehat you want to know
[15:15] <schay> hay
[15:15] <CAPcap> what windows based programs can ekiga talk to?
[15:16] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: writte posix compliant C programs in linux that will run unmodified in windows ??? then you can do that with mingw
[15:16] <Curly_Q> I was interested in the most compatible compiler whereas in most cases a C compiler is required for many Linux installations.
[15:16] <phox_> How do i see my local ip in terminal?
[15:16] <grawity> CAPcap: Any that uses SIP.
[15:16] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: the most used compiler in Linux is gcc
[15:16] <kinja-sheep> phox_: ifconfig
[15:16] <erUSUL> phox_: ifconfig
[15:17] <Curly_Q> I have had many compile with the GCC compiler erUSUL.
[15:17] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: if you want to program in linux in C you use gcc
[15:17] <Curly_Q> compile errors that is.
[15:17] <grawity> CAPcap: So, Ekiga, Gizmo, and a few others. ("Windows Messenger", which comes with WinXP, also has SIP support, though hard to find.)
[15:17] <mohamed> hola
[15:17] <erUSUL> !es | mohamed
[15:17] <CAPcap> thank you grawity
[15:18] <Curly_Q> I suppose the errors were in the source code rather than the compiler.
[15:18] <majukarma> Thx for all, for info i'm downloading unbuntu-rescue-remix iso that contains all tools i need
[15:18] <bullgard5> erUSUL: I have done as you suggested. I still obtain: '(no debugging symbols found)...done.'
[15:18] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: what are you compiling ?
[15:18] <Hanako> how do I list what security groups a user is part of?  I want to make "hanako" and "www-data" be in the same security group (so I can edit files without a sudo)
[15:18] <Curly_Q> I was compiling an old ircd with gcc for Linux Red Hat 9. It was a flop.
[15:19] <erUSUL> bullgard5: :( ; maybe you can ask in other channel... #ubuntu-devel  or #ubuntu-motu
[15:19] <Hanako> or rather.. how do I make sure they are both in the same group
[15:19] <bullgard5> erUSUL: I hope they will not beat me out there.
[15:19] <Xyzumi> hi all, I'm having problems in Opera Browser, because it does not have any sound (flash like youtube, myspace, etc) but it works in Firefox.
[15:20] <Curly_Q> I went to the Behemoth web site and they said that there were lots of bugs in the source code.
[15:20] <erUSUL> bullgard5: bad past experiences there ?
[15:20] <phox_> kinja-sheep: i cant see my local ip there, just all my mac-adresses..
[15:20] <brummba> how can I find out the current used graphics driver (via command line)?
[15:20] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: why not use a precompiled ircd ¿?
[15:20] <Xyzumi> any help???
[15:20] <Curly_Q> It is actually Bahamut.
[15:20] <erUSUL> brummba: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:21] <Powderking> I want to install Ubuntu Server on an embedded board with a CF card connected over IDE. Can I prepare the CF card under a running Ubuntu system where I can connect the CF card over USB? I think I have to prepare the CF card with GRUB, vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the iso file? But I don't know how to install GRUB on the card over USB on the running Ubuntu system :-(
[15:21] <Curly_Q> Well, erUSUL, Red Hat 9 will not compile the Bahamut ircd source code.
[15:21] <grawity> Hanako: Run "id" and it will list all groups you have currently. "id hanako" will list all groups user "hanako" has. (They are _usually_ the same.)
[15:21] <bullgard5> erUSUL: No, not in these 2 channels which you suggested. Rather, their topic is different.
[15:21] <bazhang> Curly_Q, does ubuntu enter into this somewhere?
[15:21] <erUSUL> Curly_Q: we do not support red hat here
[15:21] <grawity> Curly_Q: How about inspircd, charybdis, ircd-seven?
[15:21] <TrumpCard> Xyzumi: what's your problem: no sound or no flash in opera?
[15:22] <Hanako> grawity: groups=1000 for Hanako, 33 for www-data
[15:22] <Curly_Q> Yes. Bazhang, I was wondering if there were an ircd Bahamut server that can be compiled with Ubuntu.
[15:22] <grawity> Hanako: Then add 'hanako' to the www-data group?
[15:22] <grawity> Hanako: Use gpasswd.
[15:22] <poison_> selam
[15:22] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: tha problem is flash in Opera
[15:22] <Hanako> groupadd? useradd?
[15:22] <bullgard5> erUSUL: I will give it a try first in #ubuntu-bugs.
[15:22] <erUSUL> bullgard5: ok; good luck
[15:22] <jriehle87> hi guys, question. Whats the best screen recorder (similar to fraps?) for ubuntu 9.1
[15:22] <poison_> turk arkadaşlar yardım
[15:22] <bazhang> !tr | poison_
[15:23] <bullgard5> erUSUL: Thank you for your help.
[15:23] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: I can hear mp3 musica and see movies in VLC...
[15:23] <jriehle87> Whats the best screen recorder (similar to fraps?) for ubuntu 9.1
[15:23] <TrumpCard> Xyzumi: do you have the ffmpeg package installed?
[15:23] <aLeSD> brasero brokes my DVD/RW disks
[15:23] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: I think so, how can I make sure of that?
[15:23] <Curly_Q> Grawity, thanks for that lead. I just landed on that web site.   :)   http://wiki.inspircd.org/Comparison_Of_Features
[15:23] <IdleOne> jriehle87: try recordmydesktop
[15:24] <jriehle87> IdleOne: thanks, ill look into it
[15:24] <aLeSD> I mean after I clean a DVD/RW . My drive doesn't recognize the disk anymore
[15:24] <TrumpCard> Xyzumi: just open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ffmpeg;  it will install it if you don't have it and do nothing otherwise
[15:24] <aLeSD> the nautilus icon of the drive disappear when I insert a blanked disk
[15:25] <mircone> salve a tutti c'è qualcuno disposto ad aiutarmi ad installare la mia webcam trust in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:25] <aLeSD> mircone: inglese o ti cqcciano
[15:25] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: Ok, it installed 3 packages
[15:25] <guntbert> !it | mircone
[15:26] <mircone> tanks guys
[15:26] <Curly_Q> Grawity, is that ircd dependent solely by itself or is it dependent upon a network externally?
[15:26] <TrumpCard> Xyzumi: does it work now?
[15:27] <grawity> Curly_Q: ...what exactly do you mean by that?
[15:27] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: no... should I restart ubuntu?
[15:27] <Curly_Q> Is it a private server?
[15:27] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: I've just restarted Opera
[15:27] <Curly_Q> I am working on an IRC Server for my University students.
[15:28] <TrumpCard> Xyzumi: and?
[15:28] <grawity> Curly_Q: All IRC servers run just fine independently.
[15:28] <Curly_Q> Thanks for the info.
[15:28] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: still the same problem
[15:29] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: i open in firefox, it's ok, but in Opera, now sound
[15:29] <Xyzumi> TrumpCard: I can see the video, but with no sound
[15:30] <Curly_Q> My Network Academy teaches CISCO and A+ Certification as well as N+. I would like the students to keep in touch in real time.
[15:30] <fariadantes> btw - it is possibble - i repeat - it is possible to reach your macosx hdd after any problem with ubuntu disk : ))))
[15:30] <Curly_Q> I know that there are Jave applications that talk to IRC servers.
[15:31] <Curly_Q> Real time Java on a live web-site.
[15:33] <Curly_Q> Consequently, if a student does not want or does not have the skills to use IRC, the web site will suffice to make the connection from the Professor to the student.
[15:34] <Sunboy2> Hi. Has anyone had problems running rhythmbox and vlc in the same session?
[15:34] <jriehle87> does anyone know where recordmydesktop saves the videos?
[15:34] <Sunboy2> It seems that vlc makes rhythmbox suddenly forget how to play mp3s until I restart my xserver
[15:35] <Curly_Q> Grawity, thanks again for your time. God bless you.
[15:35] <Curly_Q> Take care.
[15:37] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if this would work with ubuntu?   Western Digital My Passport 320GB Essential Hard Drive
[15:37] <VirusTB> perlsyntax, ?
[15:38] <VirusTB> perlsyntax,  a USB ex-HDD right?  should just plug it in and it works
[15:39] <evergreenn> hello. all
[15:39] <perlsyntax> and a window pop up if i am right:)
[15:39] <perlsyntax> hehehe
[15:40] <meindian523> hello evergreenn
[15:41] <evergreenn> hello meindian523
[15:42] <evergreenn> is the possibility of connecting a scanner parallel, not USB Ubuntu 9.10?
[15:43] <meindian523> !ask
[15:43] <meindian523> !ask| evergreenn
[15:45] <evergreenn> connect parallel scanner, no USB on Ubuntu 9.10
[15:45] <evergreenn> snausages, hello
[15:45] <meindian523> evergreenn, do you mean you want to connect a scanner via the parallel port, and not via USB?
[15:46] <lynxsys> hey all
[15:46] <evergreenn> meindian523, yes
[15:47] <meindian523> evergreenn, isn't this a hardware issue, if your scanner has a parallel port connector, and your motherboard has the corresponding female port, you should be able to
[15:47] <lynxsys> If Ubuntu has no root user and pass then how would I change the file permissions on say a the /var/www forlder to allow users to upload to it via ftp?
[15:48] <IdleOne> lynxsys: using sudo
[15:48] <evergreenn> meindian523.  the scanner is connected, but xsane does not read, because the drivers are missing
[15:48] <lynxsys> i see
[15:48] <lynxsys> thanks
[15:49] <melvincv> someone tell the devs to include a autorepair or system restore feature to ubuntu...
[15:49] <coz_> hey guys   just did an xsplash --help and go   ERROR   failed to setresgid to `gdm`
[15:49] <coz_> any ideas?
[15:49] <ShapeShifter499> #help
[15:50] <ShapeShifter499> Hmm
[15:50] <meindian523> ShapeShifter499, you need !help
[15:50] <meindian523> !help
[15:50] <ShapeShifter499> What channel was it that would freak out if you typed #help?
[15:51] <coz_> ah nevermind
[15:51] <IdleOne> ShapeShifter499: this one might if you keep doing it :)
[15:51] <ShapeShifter499> Oh
[15:51] <meindian523> evergreenn, well, then you need to provide us the scanner specs
[15:51] <ShapeShifter499> But I though there was one that wiu
[15:51] <ShapeShifter499> Would kick u on contact
[15:52] <ShapeShifter499> Eg idc
[15:52] <guntbert> !bug | melvincv
[15:52] <ShapeShifter499> *eg
[15:52] <evergreenn> meindian523,  scanner acer scan prisa 320 p
[15:52] <ShapeShifter499> Darn u colloquy Ipod edition
[15:53] <meindian523> evergreenn, ubuntu version
[15:53] <meindian523> ?
[15:53] <evergreenn> meindian523  ubuntu 9.10
[15:53] <meindian523> evergreenn, have you tried hardware drivers from System>>Administration?
[15:54] <melvincv> how do you see what all processes are using network bandwidth?
[15:54] <lynxsys> anyone know why vsftpd would let a local authenticted user make a directory via ftp client?
[15:54] <lynxsys> wouldnt*
[15:55] <melvincv> :)
[15:56] <evergreenn> meindian523,  no proprietary driver is in use on this system
[15:56] <Ostlian_Bryffelk> Hm, when trying to connet to irc.freenode.net in irssi I get connection refused. :S Any clues?
[15:56] <Seveas> Ostlian_Bryffelk, try chat.freenode.net on port 8001
[15:56] <[Stonki]> Hi, accidently I run on a new server (not life yet) chown -R emails:emails on /var (instead of /var/emails). Is there any chance to reinstall all packages with the correct permissions ?
[15:56] <melvincv> how do you see what all processes are using network bandwidth?:-(
[15:56] <[Stonki]> or should I do a new install ?
[15:57] <Ostlian_Bryffelk> Seveas: nvm it worked now... S:
[15:57] <meindian523> evergreenn, does it work when plugged in via USB?
[15:57] <Powderking> I'm following the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromCForUSBStick). But since I have GRUB 2 on my system /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing. Can I simply use /etc/default/grub as a replacement? What else do I have to consider?
[15:58] <evergreenn>   meindian523.           the scanner is not USB
[15:58] <melvincv> how do you see what all processes are using network bandwidth?
[15:59] <llutz> melvincv: netstat, iptraf
[16:00] <pallkars> Yo. I have an ubuntu server that I want to use as a router. As I have understood, it is masquerading that I want to work with. Is there any good user friendly software for this purpose whit features so that I can use one network card as input for the computers in the network and one as output to the www? also to use my wireless card as well as input. Being able to determine IP-range, forward ports etc for the computers in the network would be cool as well
[16:00] <llutz> !ics | pallkars
[16:01] <pallkars> llutz: Thanks. :)
[16:03] <kbmaniac> possibly dumb question, are you supposed to be able to drag and drop apps to different workspaces via the workspace switcher ?
[16:04] <blendmaster1024> kbmaniac, yes....?
[16:04] <meindian523> blendmaster1024, well, I can't, and I'm assuming kbmaniac can't either
[16:04] <kbmaniac> OK so when I click and drag them they dont move ...
[16:04] <Hinata> Hi, is there a way to know what is using a certain port because it looks like my mpd is having someproblem with port 6600 http://pastebin.com/d6d5f1b08 ^ ^;
[16:05] <kbmaniac> so what is the secret button / tequnique ?
[16:05] <trism> kbmaniac: you can always right click on the title bar and select move to workspace
[16:05] <llutz> Hinata: lsof -i/netstat -tulpen
[16:05] <meindian523> evergreenn, dunno, couldn't find anything
[16:05] <erUSUL> Hinata: sudo lsof -i :port_number
[16:05] <|{oeN> hi all
[16:05] <kbmaniac> trism, yep do that but moving via switcher would be faster ...
[16:06] <kbmaniac> and looks like it should be possible
[16:06] <pluhngz> hello
[16:06] <gui7> does ctl+c stop a running command?
[16:06] <blendmaster1024> hmm, doesn't work for me either now that i try. it used to work, though, in older versions of ubuntu... try this, though: you know how you can switch workspaces with ctrl+alt+arrow?
[16:06] <blendmaster1024> yes, gui7
[16:06] <Hinata> gui7: normally yes
[16:07] <evergreenn> meindian523, I do not understand
[16:07] <blendmaster1024> what Hinata said
[16:07] <meindian523> evergreenn, I couldn't find anything related to your problem
[16:07] <gui7> crap, im used to using it to copy+paste, just ended a 1tb trasnfer halfway thru :-/
[16:07] <blendmaster1024> kbmaniac, add shift to that combination (shift+alt+ctrl+arrowkey) and the active window comes along
[16:07] <kbmaniac> blendmaster1024, did not know about ctrl-alt-arrow, cool,
[16:08] <pallkars> Hm, how can I list my ethernet controllers?
[16:08] <meindian523> blendmaster1024, didn't know about shift+ctrl+alt+arrow, cool
[16:08] <pallkars> I want to know which eth* is my wireless card
[16:08] <kbmaniac> blendmaster1024, it does too ... still the graphics seem to indicate that a drag drop should happen
[16:08] <Pathero-ng> hello ubanto users
[16:08] <llutz> pallkars: iwconfig
[16:08] <Pathero-ng> I want to know what if I want some documents to be rly secure would it be good to make them owned by root not by user
[16:08] <evergreenn> meindian523, ok thanks
[16:09] <cvbrg> pallkars: ifconfig -a
[16:09] <blendmaster1024> kbmaniac, that's what i thought.
[16:09] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, you would do better to encrypt them
[16:09] <evergreenn> meindian523.  We would like some guru
[16:09] <Pathero-ng> without encryption
[16:09] <jon5000> hello.  using ubuntu 9.10 and trying to set up printer: Brother MFC 685-CW to work.  I can find it in the network but the driver is not listed so I went to brother, followed the pre-req. directions/commands and opened the .deb driver file.  Received "dependency is not supportable" error.  I have a feeling brothers drivers may be old.  can anyone help?
[16:09] <Pathero-ng> can I make them readable by root only and no one else would that be aweoms
[16:09] <kbmaniac> blendmaster1024, googleing ...
[16:09] <Pathero-ng> that way only the user with the paswword can read it right
[16:10] <pallkars> llutz: http://pastebin.com/m5f9cc924   That is odd. I have a wireless card plugged in.
[16:10] <llutz> pallkars: lspci/lsusb
[16:10] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, you could set it read only by any user
[16:10] <gui7> what can i use to copy+paste in a terminal then if ctrl+c isnt an option?
[16:10] <meindian523> yourself for example
[16:11] <reverseblade> hello i mistakenly wiped out my ubuntu partition and i want to boot into windows . But when I boot up Grub gives an error. I am in live cd now. How do I fix ?
[16:11] <pallkars> llutz: http://pastebin.com/m2540a4b0   Here I can see all three
[16:11] <meindian523> gui7, select to copy, and middle click mouse to paste?
[16:11] <gui7> what can i use to copy+paste in a terminal then if ctrl+c isnt an option?
[16:11] <gui7> ah ok
[16:11] <kbmaniac> blendmaster1024, we are not alone ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395596
[16:11] <Pathero-ng> dude
[16:11] <gui7> thanks meindian523
[16:11] <Pathero-ng> read ? that's why I dont'w ant
[16:11] <Pathero-ng> any user to read it wtf
[16:11] <kbmaniac> blendmaster1024, looks like its a side effect of having eye candy
[16:12] <Hinata> gui7: ctrl + alt + c
[16:12] <llutz> Pathero-ng: lspci -v |grep 802.
[16:12] <llutz> pallkars: ^^
[16:12] <blendmaster1024> kbmaniac, makes sense
[16:12] <Hinata> gui7: that is if you are not using a tty...
[16:12] <gui7> ah, i am, thx tho Hinata
[16:12] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, I mean read only
[16:12] <Hinata> gui7: look for screen
[16:12] <pallkars> llutz: but I still don't know what eth* the wireless is at. xP
[16:13] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: did you enable the root account?
[16:13] <llutz> pallkars:  lspci -v |grep 802.
[16:13] <trism> kbmaniac: yeah it must be, cause I have compiz disabled and it seems to work fine
[16:13] <Pathero-ng> no I have not
[16:13] <Hinata> gui7: screen can copy and paste things
[16:13] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, by one user, so no other user can read it
[16:13] <Pathero-ng> I just want to know if I can set read by owner onlyt
[16:13] <llutz> pallkars: seems no driver is loaded, so no eth device created
[16:13] <Copter> hi guys, can i install ubuntu from a disc on key?
[16:13] <Pathero-ng> by root so in order to read I would sudo everytime nano
[16:13] <kbmaniac> trism, OK no problem can live with it, thought it was just me
[16:14] <Copter> (is it recommended?)
[16:14] <pallkars> llutz: I see. So I need to install a driver for it? How do I do that?
[16:14] <Pathero-ng> so then is a good idea
[16:14] <Hinata> gui7:  ctrl + a than [ to copy and ctrl + a + ] to paste (using screen)
[16:14] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: then where would be the added security?
[16:14] <Pathero-ng> the password
[16:14] <Pathero-ng> they have to enter to read my password
[16:14] <guntbert> !root | Pathero-ng
[16:15] <Pathero-ng> I had enable root account
[16:15] <Pathero-ng> the password is enfermo
[16:15] <centrodia> alguien me puede decir como puedo instalar pokerstars.es en mi linux por favor, estoy desesperado
[16:15] <thiebaude> !es
[16:15] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: 2 minutes ago you said "no" to my question
[16:15] <meindian523> Hinata, that doesn't work in gnome-terminal
[16:15] <llutz> pallkars: you have to find a suitable driver/kernel-module for that thingi
[16:15] <pallkars> llutz: Okay, I'll search. Thanks.
[16:15] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, congrats you just gave us the password to your root account
[16:16] <Pathero-ng> I thought this was a safe place
[16:16] <Pathero-ng> to disclose personal finromation
[16:16]  * thiebaude lol
[16:16] <Pathero-ng> hopefuly everyone is my friend
[16:16] <Hinata> meindian523: why wouldn't it work?
[16:16] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, this is a public channe
[16:16] <jon5000> any linux printing experts?
[16:16] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: this channel is publicly logged - please change the paswod immediately
[16:16] <guntbert> *password
[16:16] <Guest36888> why cant i access my ubuntu one files from other os?
[16:17] <Pathero-ng> so is it a good idea to set permirro read to root so everytime I want to read or soeon wansts to read that file they have to enter that password
[16:17] <Lostinspace_46> Am I correct that if I "mkdir" a folder named ~/bin that scripts in that folder will run at startup?
[16:17] <meindian523> Hinata, I don't know, I tried it, but it doesn't work
[16:17] <guntbert> Pathero-ng: no, it is no good idea
[16:17] <thiebaude> Pathero-ng: just use sudo
[16:17] <reverseblade> hello i mistakenly wiped out my ubuntu partition and i want to boot into windows . But when I boot up Grub gives an error. I am in live cd now. How do I fix ?
[16:17] <Pathero-ng> but then
[16:17] <Pathero-ng> is someone comes to my computer
[16:17] <Pathero-ng> no use in root owne it
[16:18] <Hinata> meindian523: in the bare on tope of you terminal click <View> than click "show bare" or something... the bare will disapear and all screen shortcut will work
[16:18] <meindian523> Pathero-ng, why don't you just encrypt the file?
[16:18] <thiebaude> Pathero-ng: setup a seperate user account
[16:18] <VirusTB> whats a transceiver when taling about Fiber internet?
[16:18] <VirusTB> *?
[16:18] <Pathero-ng> make a specific user own it?
[16:18] <llutz> VirusTB: the thing converting electric pulses into light and vice versa
[16:18] <F1NDU5> my mic doesn't work what should i do ?? should i install ?
[16:19] <thiebaude> !user
[16:19] <thiebaude> Pathero-ng:
[16:20] <CAPcap> Is there a way to determine what router i have set up from my computer? or do i have to get up and go look on the device itself?
[16:20] <meindian523> well, that still doesn't work
[16:20] <onur_> sie go
[16:20] <Pathero-ng> the route rmodel is displayed on their configuration server
[16:21] <CAPcap> Pathero-ng how do i look at that?
[16:21] <gui7> what does this tar error mean?: "tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options"
[16:21] <gui7> i got it after adding in -v for verbose mode
[16:21] <thiebaude> Pathero-ng: i dont even know what that is
[16:21] <llutz> gui7: that you havent read the manual
[16:21] <meindian523> llutz, lol
[16:21] <gui7> llutz, no, i haven't, but ive read onlien tutorials
[16:21] <llutz> gui7: what was you commandline?
[16:22] <llutz> your
[16:22] <Pathero-ng> CAPcap,
[16:22] <Powderking> I'm following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromCForUSBStick. But since I have GRUB 2 on my system /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing. What do I have to do instead to configure grub that I can boot from CF card?
[16:22] <gui7> llutz, i think i may have it figured out, i was missing a - before c
[16:22] <lynxsys> does ubuntu have an unzip application installed by default?
[16:23] <Pathero-ng> CAPcap,  have you ever got inside your router confirgatuion
[16:23] <thiebaude> !unzip
[16:23] <Pathero-ng> tar
[16:23] <meindian523> lynxsys, yes, it's called file-roller
[16:23] <thiebaude> !zip
[16:23] <Gesi> hi again
[16:23] <CAPcap> Pathero-ng um... not that u know of since i switched to linux
[16:23] <CAPcap> if ever
[16:23] <VirusTB> llutz,  so basically a transceiver jsut convets my light signals to my RJ45 plugs?  no sort of coding in between (say like cap limit . bandwith limit to users etcc) ??
[16:23] <lynxsys> so from the command line how would I unzip say 123.zip please?
[16:24] <iceroot> lynxsys: unzip 123.zip
[16:24] <Pathero-ng> why does it matter
[16:24] <Queops> Hello everyone. I have a problem: fresh instal of ubuntu, installed lampp (from xampp) I got all my files on the opt folder. However, I'd like to do some simple work with the default file managar, drag and drop files, change permissions etc etc, but of course, I don't have permissions to do so. I looked around in guides I can't find a way to fix this.
[16:24] <Pathero-ng> you can access your router via firefox
[16:24] <Pathero-ng> as in windows
[16:24] <Pathero-ng> unless it has a telnet server
[16:24] <CAPcap> ok... well i havent done anything with the router since i set it up ages ago.
[16:25] <CAPcap> nvm forget it
[16:25] <lynxsys> iceroot: tried that "The program 'unzip' is currently not installed"
[16:25] <Pathero-ng> cap
[16:25] <gui7> to make netcat even more verbose, would it be "nc -v -v etc"?
[16:25] <trism> lynxsys: sudo apt-get install unzip;
[16:25] <lynxsys> cool thanks
[16:25] <llutz> VirusTB: afaik yes, just media-conversion
[16:26] <VCoolio> lynxsys: install unp, will unpack archives with the same command, just 'unp file'
[16:26] <gharz> guys, i'm trying to download a file thru transmission.... port number has been correctly set in my router and in my transmission preferrence... but everytime i test the port it says it's closed. is there a need for me to modify my iptables? same port number and ip address are set in my window$ and the port is open... any idea?
[16:26] <burg> hello. my wireless is not managed by network manager. how can i change this
[16:26] <burg> ?
[16:26] <Pathero-ng> you wnat to find out about the router
[16:26] <Pathero-ng> you can find its brand via the first 3 octects of its nic
[16:26] <Pathero-ng> its mac
[16:27] <intru> p
[16:27] <Gesi> how can i install bittorrent.tar.gz
[16:27] <Gesi> ??
[16:27] <Gesi> >
[16:27] <CAPcap> basically i just wanted to know if there was a way i could easily scan to see what hardware i had
[16:27] <VCoolio> Gesi: it's an archive, extract it
[16:28] <CAPcap> what the device is
[16:28] <guntbert> !torrent | Gesi use one of those
[16:28] <CAPcap> doesnt sound like it, so i'll just go look at the thing
[16:28] <meindian523> Gesi, bittorrent is available through the repositories
[16:28] <onur_> fuck yuoı
[16:28] <lalo> hola
[16:28] <Queops> Can I get my question answered?
[16:28] <Pathero-ng> lalito
[16:28] <meindian523> Queops, repeat your question please
[16:28] <Queops> Hello everyone. I have a problem: fresh instal of ubuntu, installed lampp (from xampp) I got all my files on the opt folder. However, I'd like to do some simple work with the default file managar, drag and drop files, change permissions etc etc, but of course, I don't have permissions to do so. I looked around in guides I can't find a way to fix this.
[16:28] <Pathero-ng> and you question is?
[16:28] <dooglus> a long time ago I did a 'wubi' (?) install on a friend's laptop
[16:28] <lalo> como estan??
[16:29] <arvind_khadri> !grub2 > Powderking
[16:29] <dooglus> I used it for a while, now want to remove it
[16:29] <Gesi> ok ok
[16:29] <guntbert> !es | lalo
[16:29] <dooglus> is it safe to remove it?  will windows still boot?
[16:29] <llutz> !lamp | Queops:
[16:29] <Gesi> i mean how can i install one archive tar.gz
[16:29] <dooglus> !wubi
[16:29] <meindian523> Queops, well apparently, no one knows about it
[16:29] <jriehle87> how come i cannot view youtube videos, after installing the java, it says i have java disabled??
[16:29] <Gesi> anyone
[16:29] <Gesi> no problem
[16:29] <thiebaude> !flash
[16:29] <meindian523> Gesi, use sudo aptitude install bittorrent in the terminal
[16:29] <llutz> Queops: remove your xamp, it's not supported here.  use native installation
[16:29] <Queops> llutz: the problem isnt installing lampp
[16:30] <Queops> its the nautilus
[16:30] <thiebaude> jriehle87: is flash installed?
[16:30] <Queops> default manager of files in ubuntu
[16:30] <guntbert> Queops: xampp is not supported here - use lamp
[16:30] <Queops> im using lamp ;)
[16:30] <jriehle87> thiebaude: yea ive installed flash and java several times, it says its disabled
[16:30] <Queops> Again, the problem is with file action permissions
[16:30] <macman_> guys what is the name of teh gui in ubuntu that lets you share files or the network thing
[16:30] <macman_> im trying to share my folder with windows
[16:30] <Queops> Things like drag and drop
[16:31] <Queops> Copy here, copy there
[16:31] <Queops> create new folder
[16:31] <jriehle87> Hello, you seem to have JavaScript turned off.  Please enable it to see search results properly.
[16:31] <meindian523> macman_, Samba should work
  if you are using firefox try this...
[16:31] <duffer> !Restricted
[16:31] <guntbert> macman_: right click on a folder - select share properties
[16:31] <Pathero-ng> ok guys
[16:31] <Gesi> EDIT>PREFRENCES>CONTENT> (check enable java)
[16:32] <jriehle87> it is enabled
[16:32] <Gesi> what about java script
[16:32] <Gesi> ???
[16:32] <Queops> Okay I'll put the matter in other words, since you guys get blind about the support of this and that. Is nautilus not supported here? The default manager of Ubuntu?
[16:34] <zonema> anyone who can tell me what im douing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/d42560e44
[16:34] <zonema> it only reads firstline, and then exit
[16:34] <guntbert> Queops: one problem might be that your xammp install set permissions different that the default lamp install
[16:35] <arvind_khadri> zonema, #perl
[16:35] <zonema> okay arvind_khadri
[16:36] <Queops> guntbert: It's not about lampp, it's about nautilus. I want to manage my files on the usr, opt, proc, var, whatever its on the root folders, What should I do?
[16:36] <Queops> I want to drag and drop from Desktop to opt folder for example
[16:36] <Gesi> guys what about uninstalling form terminal , can it be done>
[16:36] <Gesi> ?
[16:36] <Lantizia> Using the normal install disc... can I tell Ubuntu to use a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[16:36] <maco> Gesi: sudo aptitude remove PACKAGE
[16:36] <maco> Gesi: or: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE
[16:36] <meindian523> macman_, +1
[16:36] <Lantizia> I'm hearing swap partitions are pointless when files are just as quick these days
[16:37] <meindian523> oops maco
[16:37] <Gesi> thanks
[16:37] <llutz> Lantizia: yes you can
[16:37] <Lantizia> llutz, during the install?
[16:37] <pluhngz> http://paulstamatiou.com/how-toreview-surf-securely-with-vyprvpn
[16:37] <pluhngz> im using that ,but why does it say
[16:37] <llutz> Lantizia: no
[16:37] <pluhngz> why does it say to use only mschapv2, and
[16:37] <guntbert> Queops: usually permissions are set so that only root may write to to those places - reconsider what you want to do
[16:37] <llutz> Lantizia: install without, change fstab later
[16:37] <oorah> i just installed xubnuntu and noticed grub and grub 2 are not installed. should i install one or both of these?
[16:37] <pluhngz> use stateful encryption
[16:38] <pluhngz> its vpn service
[16:38] <Lantizia> llutz, so if I just do a setup without a swap partition - are there instructions when inside to make a swap file (and if so how big should it be?)
[16:38] <Gesi> what about tor can i use it on ubuntu
[16:38] <Lantizia> llutz, I've been trying to find out what ubuntu does to calculate the swap partition if you just leave it to take over the whole disk
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> oorah, how did you boot into it? if you dont have a boot loader...grub2 is available only from 9.10
[16:38] <happy> Gesi: sure, why not?
[16:39] <Gesi> i meant is it possible :)
[16:39] <Queops> guntbert: I still want to have the power to manage files in there, since doing it from the terminal is quite the strain, I'm the only user, why not?
[16:39] <oorah> arvind_khadri, i have 9.,10
[16:39] <llutz> Lantizia:size depends on your needs, for 512MB:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile1 bs=1024 count=524288 ; mkswap /swapfile1; swapon /swapfile1
[16:39] <nozes> hi
[16:39] <arvind_khadri> oorah, are you on live cd?
[16:39] <Powderking> I'm following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromCForUSBStick. It describes how to configure GRUB 1 to boot from CF card. But since I use GRUB 2 the file "/boot/grub/menu.lst" is missing. The guide here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2) tells that I have to edit "/etc/default/grub" instead. But then I need to do "sudo update-grub". Will it update grub on the CF card too (located in the folder "/media/Bootie/boot/gr
[16:39] <happy> Gesi: yep
[16:39] <oorah> arvind_khadri, its installed
[16:40] <Gesi> is vidalia making the right work
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> oorah, so where are you talking from, are you using the live cd or the installed system?
[16:40] <Gesi> i found it at ubuntu software center
[16:40] <Gesi> ?
[16:40] <llutz> Lantizia: most likely you won't need more than .5 or 1GB
[16:40] <oorah> arvind_khadri, installed
[16:40] <guntbert> Queops: you might open a lot of security problems - your computer is "on the internet" - your browser might do nasty things ...
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> oorah, then grub2 is already installed
[16:40] <Gesi> or should i user tork
[16:40] <Queops> Hmmmm I see, thanks for the clarification guntbert
[16:40] <Queops> ^^
[16:41] <guntbert> Queops: you're welcome :-)
[16:41] <happy> Gesi: hilight me if you want to talk to me :-P
[16:41] <oorah> arvind_khadri, according to synaptic, neither grub nor grub 2 are installed, both empty boxes
[16:41] <IdleOne> oorah: are you able to boot xubuntu?
[16:42] <oorah> IdleOne, yes
[16:42] <IdleOne> oorah: then grub or grub2 HAVE to be installed
[16:42] <arvind_khadri> IdleOne, seems like a troll
[16:42] <meindian523> oorah, did you install inside Windows?
[16:42] <oorah> no
[16:42] <CAPcap> Ekiga wont work for me because of my router, is there any other program that will let me do video chats w/ other people?
[16:42] <oorah> IdleOne, according to synaptic, grub and grub 2 boxes are clear, not highlighted at all
[16:42] <meindian523> Hinata, that didn't work BTW
[16:42] <Gesi> happy, should i use tork or vidalia?
[16:43] <Hinata> meindian523: oh?
[16:43] <maco> CAPcap: empathy can do it between people who use jabber protocol (so @jabber.org or @gmail.com and various others)
[16:43] <happy> Gesi: I use tork, but I am on kubuntu
[16:43] <Hinata> meindian523: strange considering it does for me =(
[16:43] <Gesi> got it
[16:43] <Gesi> thanks
[16:43] <maco> CAPcap: there's also skype for linux if you dont mind proprietary software
[16:43] <CAPcap> thanks maco. can pidgin?
[16:43] <Gesi> happy, bye
[16:43] <Pathero-ng> there is teamspeak forlinux
[16:43] <Gesi> bye to everyone
[16:43] <maco> CAPcap: yes, for jabber as well i think
[16:43] <IdleOne> oorah: one of them should be green
[16:43] <macman_> question again if you don't mind .. what is the gui for ubuntu so i can see other people on the network ?
[16:43] <CAPcap> thanks maco
[16:43] <macman_> samba or something
[16:43] <Hinata> Does anyone has an idea as to why my mpd fails to bind to 127.0.0.1:6600? http://pastebin.com/d6d5f1b08
[16:44] <oorah> IdleOne, neither are. if you want i'll screenshot it for ya
[16:44] <IdleOne> oorah: do you have any other OS installed?
[16:44] <oorah> IdleOne, no
[16:44] <Lostinspace_46> Am I correct that if I "mkdir" a folder named ~/bin that scripts in that folder will run at startup?
[16:44] <buttons840> does anyone know of a basic hardware chat?  or perhaps someone can just answer my question quick: i have 4 dimm slots in a computer, do all ram chips in these slots need to have the same timings?
[16:44] <IdleOne> oorah: them your machine is magic
[16:44] <maco> Lostinspace_46: no
[16:44] <oorah> IdleOne, maybe it is lol
[16:44] <maco> Lostinspace_46: it'll be in your $PATH, that's all
[16:44] <IdleOne> then*
[16:45] <oorah> IdleOne, wanna screenshot for confirmation?
[16:45] <llutz> Lostinspace_46: check your ~/.profile or .bashrc if it will be taken into PATH if ~/bin exists
[16:45] <happy> buttons840: it all depends on your specific computer. Most need 2 or 4
[16:45] <meindian523> Hinata, let me clarify, I select what I want, press [, and place the curson where I want to paste and press ]?
[16:45] <oorah> IdleOne, what ya think i should do?
[16:45] <IdleOne> oorah: I believe you, just don't see how you were able to boot without a boot manager
[16:45] <kinja-sheep> Lostinspace_46: You can run the scripts that resides in ~/bin but it's not the startup scripts.
[16:45] <oorah> IdleOne, should i install one of these or leave it as it is?
[16:45] <happy> buttons840: but they have to be in the right slots. By 2 or 4 I mean that you must have them in pairs
[16:45] <meindian523> buttons840, same timings as in?
[16:45] <IdleOne> oorah: I say, leave well enough alone
[16:46] <fgreinus> hi @ all
[16:46] <meindian523> buttons840, they need to be of the same generation AFAIK
[16:46] <Ziber> !virtualbox
[16:46] <oorah> IdleOne, how am i booting without a bootloader?
[16:46] <happy> hi fgreinus
[16:46] <Hinata> meindian523: press ctrl + a than [ THAN select what you want using the keyboard (with the flashing rectangle) than press ctrl + a than ] to copy it
[16:46] <buttons840> meindian523, well, i have an old 512 ram stick in one slot, and i was wondering if i could put in 2 new 1 gig sticks (thus filling 3 of the 4 slots)
[16:46] <fgreinus> ugh, i'll chnge to the german ubuntu channel :D bye guys
[16:46] <IdleOne> oorah: I don't know but I suspect you have a boot loader installed. Lilo perhaps?
[16:46] <meindian523> Hinata, ah, let me try that
[16:46] <Lostinspace_46> So that dir isn,t read at startup?
[16:47] <Hinata> meindian523: to select with the flashing rectangle you might need to push space
[16:47] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: no, who told you so?
[16:47] <oorah> lilo isn't highlighted either
[16:47] <oorah> ok this is getting weird lol
[16:48] <pluhngz> oh wow
[16:48] <pluhngz> i just got an email that i got a new job heh............but it requires daily use
[16:48] <pluhngz> of toad
[16:48] <Pathero-ng> is the oracle
[16:48] <burg> how can i make network manager to manage my wireless networks?
[16:48] <pluhngz> yes an oracle job
[16:48] <pluhngz> * Proficiency in commercial database tools * Proficiency in implementing and maintaining relational databases, including normalization of data, development of user interfaces, development of customized scripts, and implementation of automated reported * Experience in performing data analysis to satisfy management information needs * Ability to work as part of a team to support accomplishment of team goals
[16:48] <FloodBot1> pluhngz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <IdleOne> !ot | pluhngz
[16:49] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert>  Actually, it occures to me I
[16:49] <oorah> are yall getting this? lol i'm running ubuntu here and the installation seems to forgot the bootloader
[16:49] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> misread a tut
[16:49] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: thought so :)
[16:50] <arvind_khadri> burg, it does it automatically, what exactly do you want it to do?
[16:50] <Spreadsheet_> I accidentally removed my menu
[16:50] <Spreadsheet_> How do I get it back?
[16:50] <meindian523> Hinata, how am I supposed to select using the keyboard, Shift+arrow keys doesn't work
[16:50] <IdleOne> arvind_khadri: I think you may have been right earlier :)
[16:50] <meindian523> Spreadsheet_, which menu?
[16:50] <Spreadsheet_> Applications, System, Places menu
[16:50] <arvind_khadri> IdleOne, hahaha :) i know, kick him
[16:50] <kris_> Hello
[16:51] <IdleOne> arvind_khadri: nahh, not disrupting
[16:51] <IdleOne> besides I can't
[16:51] <arvind_khadri> !panels | Spreadsheet_
[16:51] <burg> arvind_khadri: when i click now on network manager icon, it tells me: wireless networks: device not managed
[16:51] <Spreadsheet_> arvind_khadri: ok
[16:51] <meindian523> Spreadsheet_, right click on the panel>>Add to panel>>Main Menu
[16:51] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert>  This is what the tut said...If ~/bin does not exist, create it: Ubuntu will put that directory in your PATH. It's a good place to put personal scripts)
[16:51] <Hinata> meindian523: after ctrl + a [ move the cursor at the beginning (or the end) of what you want to past than push space than using the arrows you can move the other part of what you want to copy than repush space
[16:52] <Spreadsheet_> meindian523: That
[16:52] <Spreadsheet_> 's better
[16:52] <arvind_khadri> burg, is your device being recognized?? ifconfig must list wlan or whatever wireless device you have
[16:52] <Hinata> meindian523: (sorry for my bad english though ^ ^;)
[16:52] <meindian523> Hinata, np
[16:52] <oorah> i think i figured something
[16:52] <Spreadsheet_> Thank you
[16:52] <oorah> where it says grub2, it also says dummy package
[16:53] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert>  I see where I misread.
[16:53] <burg> arvind_khadri: ifconfig lists wlan0
[16:53] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: thats ok, but that doesn't mean those files get executed automatically, you must only type their name and not the complete path
[16:53] <burg> arvind_khadri: until today, wireless was being managed by network manager
[16:53] <oorah> and i scrolled down to grub-common and in the info it says version 2
[16:54] <meindian523> Hinata, well, apparently it works only in screen, or I can't understand what to do, but never mind
[16:54] <oorah> is it making any more sense now?
[16:54] <arvind_khadri> burg, switch over to wicd , network manager is kinda buggy :)
[16:54] <meindian523> I'll just use the select and middle click way
[16:54] <oorah> anyone?
[16:54] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> Right.  I see that now.
[16:54] <meindian523> oorah, does your machine work?
[16:54]  * arvind_khadri thinks someone must kick the troll :D
[16:54] <oorah> meindian523, yes
[16:55] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, dont feed the troll
[16:55] <meindian523> oorah, then just leave it well enough alone
[16:55] <Hinata> meindian523: screen only works with himself... but it's usefull if you get x problem and need helps ^ ^
[16:55] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, read ^^
[16:55] <oorah> grub-common is highlighted, and there it says version 2
[16:55] <kahen`> what does it mean when 'aptitude install <something>' responds with 'The following NEW packages will be installed: <stuff>{a}'. i don't get that "{a}"
[16:55] <oorah> so the one that says grub2 it says dummy package
[16:55] <JoeSomebody> hello all, how do i check if my hp laptop is ok for ubuntu? is there a compatiblity page somewhere? its a nc6230 business line unit
[16:55] <oorah> JoeSomebody, try a live cd or live usb
[16:55] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, it wont understand what you are saying, just dont pay attention
[16:55] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, point
[16:55] <minimec> JoeSomebody: www.tuxmobil.org
[16:56] <meindian523> argh, HP, they never provide the specs
[16:56] <meindian523> minimec, thanks :)
[16:56] <JoeSomebody> actually, i already installed it, how can i see if all my hardware is ok, how do i try out wireless?
[16:56] <minimec> JoeSomebody: www.tuxmobile.org ... sorry
[16:56] <oorah> JoeSomebody, live
[16:56] <oorah> oh ok
[16:56] <meindian523> minimec, both lead to the same
[16:56] <arvind_khadri> JoeSomebody, connect to a wi-fi and see :)
[16:57] <oorah> JoeSomebody, upper right side of screen
[16:57] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert>  So if I want a script to run at startup I should put it in ~/.bashrc?
[16:57] <maggs_> hey, i managed to bork my nm-applet on my netbook so i'm trying to reinstall it, i've got to synaptic and found network-manager is no longer installed it seems. I have a USB stick with a liveCD on ubuntu 9.10 on it, is there a way i can pulls network-manager off that and onto my netbook? (use the USB as the source in synaptic rather than the internet i can't connect to?)
[16:57] <oorah> JoeSomebody, if that don't work try ndisgtk and drag/drop .inf file from the drivers on the driver disk
[16:58] <meindian523> maggs_, nope, can't install packages from a liveCD,
[16:58] <arvind_khadri> seems like a brainy troll
[16:58] <meindian523> need an alternate CD image for that
[16:58] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: No, /etc/rc.local/
[16:58] <Prabz> Hi, I just finished restarting after installing updates, and am unable to use wireless at all. Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. Can anybody help?
[16:58] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: Sorry, /etc/rc.local, it's a file
[16:58] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: lets be specific - what are you trying to accomplish? within the GUI there are other possibilities
[16:59] <maggs_> bah, is there an easy way i can do it? download the package to my laptop and pput it on USB to transfer across meindian523?
[16:59] <meindian523> maggs_, try packages.ubuntu.com
[16:59] <maggs_> looking now meindian523, thank you
[17:00] <meindian523> np maggs_
[17:00] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> Set a few progs to run at startup
[17:00] <minimec> Prabz: open a console and type iwconfig in it. Do you see your device? If not, type dmesg paste.ubuntu.com the output...
[17:00] <rek> hei damn how the heck can i look the out put in the terminale modE? when the output is too long?
[17:00] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> xmodmap xbindkeys
[17:00] <rek> how can i scroll it?
[17:01] <JoeSomebody> all i did so far was install ubuntu and the updates, i dont know how to go and check my hardware, in xp i would go in device mgr and see what is missing, where in karmic to see similar info?
[17:01] <Prabz> minimec, i pasted output of lshw -c net here: http://pastebin.com/d6378d22b
[17:01] <arvind_khadri> rek, pipe it to more or less
[17:01] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: Then you want to run it while logging in. System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[17:01] <rek> arvind_khadri: ? what
[17:01] <mcramos> hello
[17:01] <rek> arvind_khadri: i wanna scroll
[17:02] <JoeSomebody> i dont think i have a wireless adapter yet
[17:02] <minimec> Prabz: and iwconfig?
[17:02] <plitter> does anyone have mathematica installed and it always adds a whitespace when you use the alt and another key? how do you fix that?
[17:02] <meindian523> rek, use the arrow keys to scroll
[17:02] <rek> meindian523: arrow keys = strange letters brackets etc as output
[17:03] <rek> i wanna scroll the page
[17:03] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: here  xmodmap gets started when the X Seession starts
[17:03] <maggs_> pg up and pg down rek?
[17:03] <Prabz> minimec,  as i can't use the internet without wireless, so i'm on windows. any thing else required too, please tell me
[17:03] <rek> maggs_: does not work
[17:03] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> I really would rather learn to do it with scripts.  For the learning.
[17:03] <rek> hi guntbert
[17:03] <meindian523> rek, what's the command who's output you want to scroll through?
[17:04] <jcorneli> can anyone here help me with xmodmap and keyboard layers?
[17:04] <jcorneli> it's driving me a bit bonkers
[17:04] <rek> meindian523:  command s bla bla bla in mldonkey gives a long output i want to see all the page
[17:04] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> You are right on the xmodmap.. I forgot
[17:04] <mcramos> I'm new here and I'm having trouble with my microphone in ubuntu 9.10. I'm looking for help...
[17:04] <rek> hi guntbert how can i scroll the pages in the terminal mode ctrl alt f1 ?
[17:05] <meindian523> rek, search for pipelines in man 1 bash
[17:05] <ritchje> Does the ATI 4850 have 3D acceleration yet?
[17:05] <jcorneli> is there a way to turn off the "third layer" stuff?
[17:05] <jcorneli> I don't want a "third layer"
[17:05] <rek> how
[17:05] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: ok - good for you - yes you should be able to start apps by putting them into .bashrc
[17:05] <arvind_khadri> rek, pipe that command, bla bla bla | more
[17:05] <minimec> Prabz: We need to know, if your device is recognized correctly... with iwconfig you should see, if the device is recognized. If not, with dmesg you should see, why your device is not loaded correctly. maybe you need a firmware file or so. We would need that output to continue to invetigate your problem.
[17:05] <m4bo> hi..i have an HP dv6-2016sl pavillon and i have an issue with the SD card. They are recognized only if once the kernel is loaded an SD card is inside of it, otherwise they aren't recognized. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
[17:05] <rek> what?
[17:06] <arvind_khadri> !info mldonkey
[17:06]  * meindian523 is more than willing to shout RTFM at rek now
[17:06] <rek> mldonkey-server
[17:06] <meindian523> but I would leave rather
[17:06] <arvind_khadri> !info mldonkey-server
[17:06] <Lostinspace_46> guntbert> Thanks.  You are always a source of info!
[17:06] <wesleyfoster> !quit
[17:06] <rek> meindian523: lol ol lol
[17:07] <guntbert> rek: its better to use less - so type <yourprog> | less     - leave less by pressing q
[17:07] <rek> i need to see all the pages
[17:07] <arvind_khadri> rek, whatever command it is , pipe it to more or less
[17:07] <guntbert> Lostinspace_46: you're welcome :-)
[17:07] <minimec> Prabz: You can copy/paste the output in a text file (gedit) and asve it on a stick or on the windows partition.
[17:07] <rek> ok arvind_khadri i don't know the meaning of that word but i  think i've understood
[17:07] <Prabz> minimec, ok, I'll be back. I also tried http://linuxfanatic.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/solved-wireless-driver-for-compaq-cq40-bcm4312/ but it wouldn't compile on 64 bit
[17:07] <rek> !pipe ubottu
[17:08] <dlcarot> hi .. which programming language is used to program any software run in ubuntu?
[17:08] <meindian523> !pip
[17:08] <meindian523> !pipe
[17:08] <rek> dlcarot: python and C
[17:08] <meindian523> !piping
[17:08] <tsimpson> dlcarot: many
[17:08] <gdiz> hey everyone.  I am having some trouble with permissions... I have a bunch of files on a external drive.  So, I did sudo chmod 777 -R   I changed the permissions in nautilus.  But the permissions are all along the lines of user rwx and everyone else just r.  What's up with that?  Am I missing something?
[17:08] <rek> !pipe
[17:08] <meindian523> !pipelines
[17:08] <guntbert> !askthebot | meindian523
[17:08] <maco> meindian523: what are you doing?
[17:08] <meindian523> no such factoid
[17:08] <minimec> Prabz: ok.
[17:08] <rek> !farts
[17:08] <llutz> gdiz: chown/chmod won't work on non-unix-fs
[17:08] <tsimpson> don't abuse the bot
[17:08] <guntbert> rek: behave!
[17:08] <rek> what?
[17:09] <meindian523> maco, well, I was looking for a factoid for pipelines
[17:09] <maco> dlcarot: it varies. python is popular. the kernel, of course, is C, much of GNOME is C... much of KDE is C++
[17:09] <arvind_khadri> tsimpson, :) what a surprise to see you here
[17:09] <tsimpson> meindian523: so use /msg next time
[17:09] <tsimpson> arvind_khadri: why a surprise?
[17:09] <Pathero-ng> anbydo here knows
[17:09] <maco> meindian523: 1) experiment with the bot in PM 2) what kind of pipelines? do you mean CPU pipelining? the | character in a shell? what?
[17:09] <arvind_khadri> tsimpson, never saw you here :)
[17:09] <dlcarot> rek : can I run same software written in python in both windows an ubuntu?
[17:09] <Pathero-ng> if I have my password in memory can it be hacked easier
[17:09] <arvind_khadri> dlcarot, yes
[17:09] <meindian523> maco, the shell pipeline
[17:10] <tsimpson> arvind_khadri: I'm always here, just not always "active" :)
[17:10] <meindian523> for rek
[17:10] <maco> meindian523: what about it?
[17:10] <gdiz> llutz, oh.  of course.  So, if I reformat the drive in a unix format, I should be fine?  Right now it's a FAT drive.  Would there be a format that would be unix while windows compatible?
[17:10] <rek> dlcarot: yes of course
[17:10] <tsimpson> Pathero-ng: not really, no
[17:10] <maco> meindian523: it passes stdout from one command to stdin of another
[17:10] <meindian523> maco, rek didn't understand it, I know it, so I tried a few options
[17:10] <arvind_khadri> tsimpson, oh :)
[17:10] <Pathero-ng> tsimpson, lets the world know
[17:10] <llutz> gdiz: use uid/gid/umask mount-options for vfat
[17:10] <maco> dlcarot: assuming you've got the same libraries, yeah
[17:11] <Pathero-ng> a fat drive?
[17:11] <gdiz> llutz, I don't think I follow
[17:11] <dlcarot> thanks guys :)
[17:11] <Pathero-ng> if I have my password in memory can it be hacked easier
[17:11] <tsimpson> Pathero-ng: you'd need to know the exact place in the memory it is and how long it is, and then break the kernel in to letting you have raw access to memory. if someone can do all that, they don't need your password ;)
[17:12] <mcramos> hello
[17:12] <saganbyte> Hello
[17:12] <Pathero-ng> tsimpson, that was impressive
[17:12] <Pathero-ng> I'll put that on my blog
[17:12] <arvind_khadri> tsimpson, are you into kernels too ??
[17:12] <mcramos> I'm looking for help..
[17:13] <arvind_khadri> !ask  | mcramos
[17:13] <mcramos> my microphone does not work...
[17:13] <maggs_> meindian523, thank you for pointing me in the right direction, looks like i have networking working happuily again on my netbook
[17:13] <saganbyte> In evolution>tasks, when creating a new task, after entering the task i hit enter, Evolution closes.... what could be wrong?
[17:13] <Pathero-ng> I'm into coronel
[17:13] <meindian523> maggs_, good, no problem :)
[17:13] <tsimpson> arvind_khadri: you use something long enough, you'll pick up information about it :)
[17:14] <maco> tsimpson: what about the cold boot attacks? where they steal your memory and freeze it?
[17:14] <meindian523> maco, AFAIK, physical access implies all bets are off
[17:14] <maco> meindian523: of course :)
[17:14] <mcramos> ok... I'm having problems with my microphone. It does not work. Any help  ?
[17:15] <tsimpson> maco: you'd still need to know where the data is and how long it is
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> mcramos, check the levels in alsamixer
[17:15] <maco> tsimpson: true, but i think the kernel protections would get out of the way
[17:15] <maco> tsimpson: and you can always just run "strings" on the memory, then sift through it later
[17:15] <mcramos> I'm new in Ubuntu. How can i do it ?
[17:16] <tsimpson> maco: it's possible that the data is not contiguous too
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> mcramos, open terminal and type alsamixer
[17:16] <maco> tsimpson: mm thats true. that makes it harder...
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> !terminal > mcramos
[17:16] <meindian523> !ot |tsimpson, maco
[17:16] <Prabz> minimec, I'm back
[17:17] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, you must be crazy to tell tsimpson to take this somewhere else :P
[17:17] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, why?
[17:17] <mbessjs3> Hi all, where can I find information about pulseaudio/alsa etc.  I just killed my sound trying to get Kino to be able to record.
[17:17] <minimec> Prabz: ok. results?
[17:17] <meindian523> AFAIK, there is no security related question here right now
[17:17] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, he is the one who coded the bot :)
[17:17] <unkmar> gah, I mean, like, gah.  somethings that are to make other things more secure/safe and simple.  gah.  They don't
[17:18] <Prabz> minimec, copying.
[17:18] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, so?
[17:18] <tsimpson> meindian523: there was actually
[17:18] <plitter> anybody use mathematica in ubuntu and get the space with the alt key? and know how to fix it?
[17:18] <meindian523> tsimpson, which was adequately solved, again AFAIK
[17:18] <unkmar> I decide to connect to my password protected network and then I get this request for another ****ing password.
[17:18] <tsimpson> meindian523: not necessarily, but new we are getting offtopic, aren't we :)
[17:19] <tsimpson> *now
[17:19] <maco> meindian523: i think arvind_khadri is laughing at you telling the rules to a op ;)
[17:19] <minimec> Prabz: so iwconfig didn't give you a wireless device?
[17:19] <meindian523> tsimpson, yes, we are
[17:19] <oorah> here's what i was talkin about http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq274/Knuckle_Brawler/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1.png
[17:19] <arvind_khadri> maco, exactly :)
[17:19] <unkmar> not my normal password.  NO. that would be too easy.  This was created out of (what?) thin air? when and where was that thing created cause.. I can't guess it.
[17:19] <meindian523> maco, well, op s aren't perfect are they?
[17:19] <JoeSomeLap> Ok so on this hp laptop, there are no drivers on the xp site for linux, i thought i would try anyway, i have no clue how to attempt wireless, can someone help?
[17:19] <maco> meindian523: not at all
[17:19] <Powderking> Where can I find information about the following line in GRUB: "kernel  (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz fb=false video=vga16:off root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=13000 quiet"?
[17:20] <arvind_khadri> JoeSomeLap, try using wi-fi
[17:20] <JoeSomeLap> easier now with lan connected :)
[17:20] <unkmar> I know what it is there.  It is there to secure my wireless passwords to all my wireless connections. but... Like, gahh. all it does is get in my way.
[17:20] <JoeSomeLap> arvind_khadri, ok how do i fire it up?
[17:20] <meindian523> JoeSomeLap, try checking System>>Administration>>Hardware Drivers
[17:21] <Prabz> minimec, that's right. even the wireless switch behaves differently than before. it shows "wireless disconnected" when i move the switch to ON, and tries to connect when i move it to "OFF"
[17:21] <unkmar> so, I end up ignoring it.  Only,,,,, I can't ignore the dang thing cause.  well, next time go to connect I have to put in my password again.  Which doesn't bother me.
[17:21] <JoeSomeLap> nothing in hardware drivers
[17:21] <unkmar> but that stupid keyring thing pops up again. so, I can't ignore it because it keeps annoying me.
[17:21] <meindian523> !ask | unkmar
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> JoeSomeLap, right click on the network-manager and connect to the wireless network you can see
[17:21] <unkmar> It won't take NO !!!!!!!!! for an answer.
[17:22] <minimec> Prabz: so paste.ubuntu.com the output of dmesg.
[17:22] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, its just a bot, :) dont worry
[17:22] <ChogyDan> unkmar: do you want a blank password?
[17:22] <opticon> how do i create shortcut for synaptic to desktop
[17:22] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, what is just a bot?
[17:22] <meindian523> :??
[17:22] <Prabz> minimec, http://pastebin.com/d68427121
[17:22] <unkmar> sure, how do i go about that?
[17:22] <arvind_khadri> meindian523, i mean its another bot, which is flooding
[17:23] <oorah> here's what i was talkin about http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq274/Knuckle_Brawler/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1.png
[17:23] <JoeSomeLap> network manager, is that the auto eth0 icon?
[17:23] <meindian523> arvind_khadri, ah
[17:23] <arvind_khadri> JoeSomeLap, yeah
[17:23] <oorah> see? grub and grub 2 are not highlighted
[17:23] <meindian523> opticon, drag from System>>Administration to the desktop
[17:24] <ViridianFire> my headphone jack doesnt work under ubuntu. Is this a common problem?
[17:24] <JoeSomeLap> under network connections everything is empty except the one
[17:24] <RandomUsr> where's the file that determines what programs/scripts/processes run when Ubuntu boots up?
[17:24] <JoeSomeLap> does that mean i have no wireless?
[17:25] <meindian523> JoeSomeLap, it probably means there is no network nearby
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[17:25] <FloodBot1> slzlsghc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <Threetimes> Hi, fglrx 9.12 won't build packages for me...
[17:25] <JoeSomeLap> there are 5 nearby
[17:25] <BrodeurPC> anyone know how to get the compiz screensaver? im using ubuntu 9.10
[17:25] <JoeSomeLap> i had xp on it before
[17:25] <meindian523> JoeSomeLap, dunno
[17:25] <meindian523> :(
[17:26] <RandomUsr> BrodeurPC, there's a Compiz screen saver?
[17:26] <soreau> BrodeurPC: You'd have to install it. You can use the script I wrote to install screensaver and other experimental unofficial compiz plugins http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012
[17:26] <soreau> RandomUsr: Yes
[17:26] <BrodeurPC> RandomUsr: yeah i see it in youtube
[17:26] <JoeSomeLap> oh well windows 7 didnt like it either
[17:26] <JoeSomeLap> nice machine too bad
[17:26] <RandomUsr> wow
[17:27] <RandomUsr> apparently, development stops for no one
[17:27] <error_name> hello i want to ask can switch my 32 bit OS into 64 one withous reinstalling
[17:27] <BrodeurPC> soreau: thank you i'll check it out
[17:27] <meindian523> error_name, nope, AFAIK
[17:27] <Threetimes> http://pastebin.com/fcf124b8
[17:27] <RandomUsr> where's the file that determines what programs/scripts/processes run when Ubuntu boots up?
[17:27] <Threetimes> Hi, fglrx 9.12 won't build packages for me... (see errors at http://pastebin.com/fcf124b8)
[17:28] <meindian523> opticon, why can't you use the GUI for creating a shortcut for synaptic?
[17:28] <error_name> meindian523: thanks. i also want to ask how to understand if my pc is capable with 64 bit OSs
[17:28] <minimec> Prabz: hmm... iwconfig shows a wireless device on eth2. Your device seems to be recogniced. Also, I don't see any wireless errors in dmesg.
[17:28] <RandomUsr> i think it's init.rc in other distro's, but maybe something that upstart uses in Ubuntu?
[17:28] <oorah> according to synaptic here, do i have a boot loader? http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq274/Knuckle_Brawler/?action=view&current=Screenshot-1-1.png&newest=1
[17:28] <error_name> is all about cpu
[17:28] <meindian523> error_name, what's your processor?
[17:28] <oorah> i meant grub
[17:28] <error_name> indel pentium dual core
[17:29] <JoeSomeLap> is there a usb wireless for linux machines?
[17:29] <meindian523> error_name, it is capable
[17:29] <minimec> Prabz: The link quality is rather bad though...
[17:29] <error_name> thanks
[17:29] <royk> hi all. trying to resize a partition from ubuntu, I can't see the whole dialog because this monitor is too small. how can I enable a larger virtual desktop? this is a netbook
[17:29] <error_name> and is there really a big difference
[17:29] <Threetimes> Hi, fglrx 9.12 won't install: http://pastebin.com/m579311c2
[17:29] <RandomUsr> ok, how about this - How can I configure what services and applications start on boot?
[17:29] <Prabz> minimec, So it must be a regression in an update of network manager yesterday?
[17:29] <Prabz> minimec, what you mean link quality?
[17:30] <royk> RandomUsr, /etc/rc2.d
[17:30] <meindian523> error_name, np
[17:30] <error_name> meindian523:  i also have a strange problem i think is connected with my CPU
[17:30] <RandomUsr> thanks royk, and you may want to use some sort of screen reader, but I wouldn't know where to start with that
[17:31] <Prabz> minimec, I'm using the same access point with windows, and it's like 90%
[17:31] <error_name> meindian523: my pc runs better and smoother if a game is running
[17:31] <royk> RandomUsr, what?
[17:31] <ViridianFire> My headphone jack doesnt work. Any advice?
[17:31] <RandomUsr> royk, you said you can't see the whole screen or something?
[17:32] <royk> yeah
[17:32] <soopos> What is wrong in the command "gvncviewer localhost:1" in connecting to VNC server instance started by "sudo pbuilder login"?
[17:32] <royk> I need to tell X "use a large virtual desktop"
[17:32] <royk> but I can't find the xorg.conf file and there's nothing in the fancy menus
[17:32]  * royk thinks menus belong in restaurants
[17:33] <minimec> Prabz: Did you ever had a working wifi connection with ubuntu with that device?
[17:33] <Prabz> minimec, I did follow instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8510764&postcount=12 but to no avail
[17:33] <meindian523> error_name, you didn't frame a question
[17:33] <RandomUsr> royk, when you say large, do you mean resolution?
[17:33]  * royk thinks error_name is erronous
[17:33] <royk> Ranakah, low resolution because of actual size
[17:34] <royk> 1024x600
[17:34] <error_name> meindian523: well as i said my pc runs better if a game is runnig.can it be cpu problem
[17:34] <royk> but the input dialogue is larger
[17:34] <Ranakah> what royk?
[17:34] <royk> meaning I can't see the bottom part of it
[17:34] <Prabz> minimec, I have been using ubuntu on my laptop for the last 2-3 months without problems, I did the update over wifi itself, but then it asked for a restart, after which wireless stopped working
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[17:34] <FloodBot1> zskksofey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <BrodeurPC> soreau: it works thank you again for the help
[17:35] <minimec> Prabz: It could be, that the network-manager is looking for eth1 as a wireless, and not eth2. I would check the network properties.
[17:35] <error_name> meindian523: any ideas?
[17:35] <ucfvil> Censor the spam -- respect LILO's memory!  http://peoplesprimary.com/users/dave0230/DSCF0356.jpg
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[17:35] <FloodBot1> ucfvil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <parapan> Hi there fellows ...I messed up the user/group permissions on a folder/subfolders/files structure ...how do I get back the control ? I made chmod -R o-x FOLDER being the root ....now i cannot restore the exute permision ...what should I do ????
[17:35] <Prabz> minimec, So how to reconfigure that?
[17:36] <meindian523> error_name, how did you verify the performance in a game versus when a game is not running
[17:36] <meindian523> ?
[17:36] <nbohaychuk> what is the command to register a nick?
[17:36] <LjL> !register > nbohaychuk    (nbohaychuk, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:36] <zpxiaxpnoqvl> Censor the spam -- respect LILO's memory!  http://peoplesprimary.com/users/dave0230/DSCF0356.jpg
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[17:36] <FloodBot1> zpxiaxpnoqvl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <meindian523> nbohaychuk, #freenode
[17:36] <ben_germany> hey, i have a question about multiple desktops
[17:36] <RandomUsr> royk, do you simply want to change the resolution of your laptop's video card to match the monitor's capabilities?
[17:37] <minimec> Prabz: Right click on the network-applet in the panel, then 'properties'. You could also try to load an older kernel (press and hold 'left shift' before grub starts).
[17:37] <RandomUsr> royk, is so, just go to system prefs > screen res
[17:37] <twig11> Why is Ubuntu One not connecting for me in Karmic on an iBook G4? When I start the client, a browser window pops up asking me to authorize my computer with my Ubuntu One account. I log in and am taken to my "Files" page on my Ubuntu One account. However, the client attempts to connect, then disconnects without syncing, and triggers the same authorization page in the browser again. The process repeats no matter how many times I re-authorize 
[17:38] <error_name> meindian523: well i just leave the game running in desktop 1,switch to desktop 2 and for example open terminal(faster),home folder(faster),firefox(faster) then effect of minimyzing is smoother
[17:38] <Prabz> minimec, if that doesnt work,  anything else that  i can try, before I come back here on windows?
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[17:38] <alejandro27> merida
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[17:39] <minimec> Prabz: first, try to reconfigure the network, then try to boot an older kernel --> current kernel -1
[17:39] <Prabz> minimec, alright, I'll be back.
[17:39] <minimec> Prabz: ok
[17:40] <Copter> Hey, can I install ubuntu from windows 7 to a seperate HD and I will be able to dual boot windows 7 / ubuntu ? Or do I have to use the live-cd ?
[17:40] <ViridianFire> is there a settings menu for PulseAudio?
[17:40] <royk> Copter, just boot on the ubuntu disc
[17:41] <edbian> Copter, You can't install ubuntu using windows 7 unless you're talking about wubi.  You do no need two harddrives to dual boot.
[17:41] <meindian523> Copter, you can do that, I forget the link, and I'm unsure whether it works from W7
[17:41] <Copter> well i used daemon tools and running ubuntu
[17:41] <Copter> and it says install from windows
[17:41] <edbian> Copter, You can however install ubuntu on another harddrive and boot from it
[17:41] <parapan> Hi there fellows ...I messed up the user/group permissions on a folder/subfolders/files structure ...how do I get back the control ? I made chmod -R o-x FOLDER being the root ....now i cannot restore the exute permision ...what should I do ????
[17:41] <meindian523> edbian, royk I think Copter wants to migrate a Wubi install to a true dual boot
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[17:41] <Copter> all i want is to skip the live-cd part becasue i dont have cds to burn at the moment
[17:42] <twig11> Why is Ubuntu One not connecting for me in Karmic on an iBook G4? When I start the client, a browser window pops up asking me to authorize my computer with my Ubuntu One account. I log in and am taken to my "Files" page on my Ubuntu One account. However, the client attempts to connect, then disconnects without syncing, and triggers the same authorization page in the browser again. The process repeats no matter how many times I re-authorize 
[17:42] <Copter> so im asking if i can install ubuntu directly from the iso using daemon tools with windows 7 , instead of burning it.
[17:42] <pqyohscqxfu> Censor the spam -- respect LILO's memory!  http://peoplesprimary.com/users/dave0230/DSCF0356.jpg
[17:42] <pqyohscqxfu> Censor the spam -- respect LILO's memory!  http://peoplesprimary.com/users/dave0230/DSCF0356.jpg
[17:42] <pqyohscqxfu> Censor the spam -- respect LILO's memory!  http://peoplesprimary.com/users/dave0230/DSCF0356.jpg
[17:42] <JoeSomeLap> OK can someone good on this area check this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel my card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05), i dont understand part of that page
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[17:46] <Real_Ubot> What's wrong with this line: scp -P 2222 /home/username/.ssh/authorized_keys username@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home/username/Desktop/
[17:47] <Pathero-ng> hello ubantors
[17:47] <Copter> I am going to use WUBI to install linux on a seperate HD. is that not going to be "true dual boot" ?
[17:47] <Pathero-ng> my battery says 116:20 hours left
[17:47] <Pathero-ng> what does ths mean
[17:47] <Pathero-ng> 116min?
[17:47] <Pathero-ng> or 116 hours? : /
[17:47] <protojay> hello fellow ubantor Pathero-ng !
[17:47] <Craig_Dem> 1 hour 54 minutes
[17:47] <Craig_Dem> wait
[17:47] <Craig_Dem> Yeah, thats like 4 days
[17:48] <Craig_Dem> I read it wrong >_>
[17:48] <Pathero-ng> can't be 4 days
[17:48] <Pathero-ng> is a standard battery I just bought
[17:48] <alsuren_> for some reason my screensaver sometimes stops working, so I end up with my screen always on and my status always set to online
[17:48] <Pathero-ng> perhaps is loaded
[17:48] <Pathero-ng> ecopunk ur using qwest too
[17:48] <alsuren_> is there any way I can find out what's stopping my screensaver working
[17:48] <alsuren_> ?
[17:48] <Pathero-ng> they have nice speeds hah the bad thig about it is that is MSN owned
[17:49] <Pathero-ng> and MSN is bill gates watching what I do
[17:49] <guntbert> !ot | Pathero-ng the foods are bad enough
[17:49] <Pathero-ng> not owned by pwnetned
[17:49] <guntbert> *floods
[17:49] <ecopunk> Pathero-ng: indirectly. my roommate has a qwest wireless modem.
[17:50] <Pathero-ng> I have the qwest modem too but asked not to have wireless capability
[17:50] <ecopunk> Pathero-ng: really not any more worried these days 'bout the gates than i am about google, yahoo, et al.
[17:52] <Pathero-ng> yes
[17:52] <Spreadsheet_> Is "software centre" going to replace synaptic?
[17:52] <Slart> Spreadsheet_: I doubt it..
[17:53] <Slart> Spreadsheet_: the software center and its predecessors have never had libraries, kernels and such.. just the plain apps
[17:53] <zagabar> Yo. I am trying to make an ad-hoc network so that my ubuntu server connects outwards and I can connect with wireless from my laptop to it. It is going pretty good, but I have some problems. I followed these guides: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless   I have gotten to the point where I can find the wi
[17:53] <Copter> is there any difference between installing ubuntu from windows using WUBI or using the live-cd? both are going to be installed on a seperate HD.
[17:53] <Spreadsheet_> I know
[17:54] <Spreadsheet_> I heard a rumor somewhere though
[17:54] <Spazholio> Does Karmic have HFSC support already in the kernel?  Or as a module?
[17:54] <Prabz> minimec
[17:55] <Prabz> minimec, i'm back
[17:55] <minimec> Prabz: and?
[17:55] <Prabz> minimec, no avail.. eth2 is selected as wifi adapter, and the older kernel doesn't detect any wireless adapter
[17:55] <Slart> Spreadsheet_: well.. google gives a few hits that discuss it http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-app-centre-%E2%80%93-replacing-addremove-synaptic-gdebi-update-manage.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360824  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center
[17:56] <minimec> Prabz: That is really strange...
[17:56] <Spreadsheet_> Slart: thanks
[17:56] <Prabz> minimec, would looking through what all was updated be of any help?
[17:56] <nbohaychuk> The Ubuntu Software Centre does not have much stuff, but is's pretty good....
[17:57] <Spreadsheet_> "The Software Center will replace Synaptic, Software Sources, Gdebi, and possibly the Update Manager." - wikipedia
[17:57] <arooni> how do i make a program the default handler for a file extension?  such as .torrent be opened by default by deluge?
[17:57] <Spreadsheet_> So it's supposed to be an all inclusive package handler
[17:57] <JoeSomeLap> OK https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel my card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05), i dont understand part of that page, am i going to be able to use wireless?
[17:59] <minimec> Prabz: well... maybe. Your problem is really strange,
[17:59] <Spazholio> What's the quickest way to determine how the Karmic kernel was compiled (modules, compiled in stuff, etc)?
[17:59] <JoeSomeLap> supports network install untested?
[18:00] <JoeSomeLap> meaning exactly?
[18:00] <Prabz> minimec, not only me, somebody else too faced the same problem...: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381560
[18:00] <llutz> Spazholio: less /boo/config-$(uname -r)
[18:00] <JoeSomeLap> maybe its not hopeless, but i need help here to enable it
[18:01] <llutz> boot*
[18:01] <Spazholio> llutz: awesome, thanks.  I'd like to pay you for your help.  If you'd like to give me your routing and account numbers, I'd be happy to put some money in your account.
[18:01] <Prabz> minimec, so how do i look through which all packages were updated?
[18:01] <Spazholio> *cough*
[18:01] <erUSUL> arooni: rght click on the file. Properties>Open with
[18:02] <nbohaychuk> is it possible to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix with a remote dvd/cd drive to an Acer Aspire One via network?
[18:02] <llutz> Spazholio: calm down :)
[18:02] <nbohaychuk> I have an external drive, but it's big, and it's a pain to drag around
[18:02] <Spazholio> llutz: It'll work one of these days....=)
[18:02] <Spazholio> Anyone familiar with traffic shaping voodoo magic under Karmic?
[18:03] <nbohaychuk> I am running Ubuntu Netbook Remix right now, but sometimes I have to reinstall it or load in a different OS and then go back to Ubuntu
[18:03] <minimec> Prabz: open synaptic and ckick on the file menu. It's in there... 'History' in english I think.
[18:03] <Prabz> minimec, I didn't use synaptic to update, I used the terminal
[18:04] <nbohaychuk> I like the Terminal update too
[18:04] <nbohaychuk> it's a bit more stable than the GUI
[18:04] <minimec> Prabz: --> apt-get --help. Maybe synpaptic uses the apt-get history.
[18:05] <nbohaychuk> I use "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:05] <JoeSomeLap> no one will help me today? :)
[18:05] <nbohaychuk> and it's good for my Ubuntu Server computer
[18:05] <nbohaychuk> JoeSomeLap: what was your question?
[18:05] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: what's up?
[18:05] <Prabz> nbohaychuk, :)..
[18:06] <Prabz> nbohaychuk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381560
[18:07] <JoeSomeLap> OK https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel my card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05), i dont understand part of that page, can i set up the thing, or not?
[18:07] <JoeSomeLap> i download ipw2200? and from where? how to install it?
[18:08] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: one moment, let me check...
[18:09] <JoeSomeLap> thanks
[18:09] <Prabz> minimec, i'll post the output of cat /var/log/apt/term.log
[18:10] <fluxw0rm> Will someone please recommend ext3 or ext4 with a new 9.10 install? According to a link I viewed earlier, ext3 came out on top as ext4 appears to be more buggy and slower with the current kernel release.
[18:10] <JoeSomeLap> i am thinking this - - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=11780&ProdId=1847&lang=eng
[18:10] <nbohaychuk> JoeSomeLap Google the wireless card and drivers that have been reported to work, then downgrade to the older working driver
[18:10] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: which version of ubuntu are you running, it should be available without download
[18:11] <JoeSomeLap> karmic
[18:11] <TopoMorto> how to wipe the end of the disk with dd??? (i have to override GPT...)
[18:12] <JoeSomeLap> i have downloaded it from that link, but i dont know how to "apply" it
[18:13] <nbohaychuk> JoeSomeLap: Can't help you much there, I have never done it before
[18:13] <tonsofpcs> just distup'd from Intrepid Ibex to Jaunty Jackalope.  On boot, I get fsck messages saying I have bad blocks, but it doesn't say which filesystem (yes, I read through the logs too).  I have checked the two filesystems that it failed to mount and both appear to be fine.  Is there a gui tool that will check but not change filesystems and show me what is wrong?
[18:14] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: cool, if you do a 'ifconfig' command in a terminal; do you see your wireless device listed?
[18:14] <Diverdude> how do i open the document explorer from the terminal?
[18:15] <Diverdude> ?
[18:15] <JoeSomeLap> i got eth0 eth1 lo
[18:15] <yoyoned> Diverdude: nautilus
[18:15] <ortsvorsteher> Diverdude, type nautilus in terminal
[18:16] <yoyoned> Diverdude: why cant you use the menu
[18:16] <JoeSomeLap> no desc so you tell me if i have it
[18:16] <JoeSomeLap> is one of them a wireless?
[18:16] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: those are wired
[18:16] <soopos>  What is the benefit of VNC over the procedure of "ssh -YC && nautilus"?
[18:16] <enthdegree> Are there any terminal push-email clients?
[18:16] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: no, it doesn't look like your wireless is being detected
[18:17] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: what model of PC are we working with?
[18:17] <JoeSomeLap> lsipc said it was there if that is any help
[18:17] <UbuN2> Hi all !!
[18:17] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: can you pastebin lspci
[18:17] <JoeSomeLap> hp nc6230 laptop
[18:17] <patoncito1> Hi there, somebody knows which argument may I pass on the grub in order to start a cpu cooling fan ??
[18:18] <nbohaychuk> Has anyone had success with installing Microsoft Office 2007 in Wine in Ubuntu 9.10?
[18:18] <nbohaychuk> I need it for school
[18:18] <Slart> !appdb | nbohaychuk
[18:19] <yoyoned> nbohaychuk: have you checked crossover office4
[18:19] <JoeSomeLap> yoyoned, http://pastebin.com/m6af20929
[18:19] <tim__b> anyone knowing some tool to cut hdtv h264 transport streams? :)
[18:19] <nbohaychuk> yoyoned: no, never heard of it.
[18:19] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: are wireless-tools installed?
[18:19] <JoeSomeLap> says Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[18:19] <Slart> nbohaychuk: and you have my sympathies for going to a weird school that requires you to use special software
[18:20] <nbohaychuk> I love OpenOffice, but I am having formatting issues with my school's Microsoft Office
[18:20] <JoeSomeLap> i only installed karmic and updates
[18:20] <JoeSomeLap> so i am guessing no
[18:20] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: do a 'sudo apt-get install wireless-tools' and see if it is there or go ahead and install them
[18:20] <xangua> nbohaychuk: thell your school to use ODF
[18:20] <nbohaychuk> lol
[18:21] <Slart> patoncito1: are you sure you're supposed to do that in grub? it sounds... odd
[18:21] <nbohaychuk> they definitely won't do that
[18:21] <yoyoned> nbohaychuk: it's not free, but it is you best chance at getting office running
[18:21] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: I don't see a wireless card in you lcpci
[18:22] <napurist> JoeSomeLap: if you run into very deep trouble here is a link that may get you going... I would suggest only as a last resort... http://modelr.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/how-to-get-wireless-network-on-ubuntu-server/
[18:22] <norbi905> Hello, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 x64.  I am trying to get sound working on an Audigy 2ZS.  From what I have read the driver should be built into the kernel.  However I do not get any sound.  If I go to "System -> Sound -> Hardware tab" It shows nothing.  Is there something I can do to make this work?  I'm new to Linux but not computers :)
[18:23] <JoeSomeLap> i am getting more confused
[18:23] <JoeSomeLap> lspci gave me the card name
[18:23] <JoeSomeLap> and now its not htere?
[18:23] <JoeSomeLap> i cant type wel on this thing
[18:24] <ubuntunewuser> Anyone help with wireless?
[18:24] <JoeSomeLap> from my lsppci...
[18:24] <JoeSomeLap> 02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[18:24] <ubuntunewuser> I cant seem to get it working :(
[18:24] <yoyoned> !wireless|ubuntunewuser
[18:24] <xangua> ubuntunewuser: what wireless card do you have¿¿
[18:24] <Slart> norbi905: I think I have the same soundcard.. also running 64bit 9.10... can you open a terminal and run "lspci" and see if you find your sound card in that list?
[18:24] <JoeSomeLap> ok
[18:25] <ubuntunewuser> xangua Broadcom?
[18:25] <ubuntunewuser> is that what you are looking for?
[18:25] <fluxw0rm> I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN card in my laptop. It uses the interface "wlan0", JoeSomeLap.
[18:25] <fluxw0rm> JoeSomeLap: Have you tried "ifconfig wlan0 up"?
[18:25] <xangua> ubuntunewuser: chec in Sis>Admon>hardware Support and see if you have aviable drives
[18:25] <Prabz> minimec, it's working on its own now.. :-/
[18:25] <zagabar> Anyone here who has gotten ics to work with a windows client to an ubuntu host?
[18:26] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: try sudo modprobe ipw2200
[18:26] <Slart> zagabar: yes
[18:26] <minimec> Prabz: ;) Praise tzhe lord! *rofl*
[18:26] <Prabz> minimec, lol.... but what went wrong, seriously i want to know
[18:26] <JoeSomeLap> fluxw0rm, no, more or less a linux newbie here
[18:27] <JoeSomeLap> yoyoned, ok
[18:27] <zagabar> Slart: Okay. I am having some problems. After following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing it still doesn't work. I cannot ping the host on the client side and vice versa after connecting
[18:27] <ubuntunewuser> ok well Xangua I have a Compaq Pressario R3000
[18:28] <norbi905> Slart: I get Host bridge, PCI bridge, USB controller, VGA controller, Ethernet controller, Firewire... nothing inregards to Sound Blaster
[18:28] <JoeSomeLap> yoyoned, ok that did nothing?
[18:28] <minimec> Prabz: I guess it's a eth1+2 thing. what does ifconfig say? I guess you get eth0 for the wired, eth2 for the wireless, and no eth1! ;)
[18:28] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: try ifconfig again to see if that created the wireless device
[18:28] <Slart> zagabar: I just followed that guide yesterday for two machines in virtualbox.. it worked for me.. I still have to enable ip_forwarding manuall after I reboot... but apart from that it should work
[18:28] <Prabz> minimec, that's right, no eth1 even now
[18:28] <JoeSomeLap> the install doc with the driver i downloaded is scary
[18:28] <ubuntunewuser> Grr anyone else having wireless problems??
[18:29] <JoeSomeLap> it di\dnt
[18:29] <Prabz> ubuntunewuser, just resolved mine, after 30 hours
[18:29] <zagabar> Slart:  Maybe I haven't enabled ip_forwarding? How do I do that?
[18:30] <minimec> Prabz: I don't know what changed it, but I guess until yestarday it was eth1 and the network manager wos configured to eth1.
[18:30] <Slart> norbi905: here's what my output looks like.. I can't really remember what model I have.. I think it's audigy 2 something.. http://pastebin.com/ffea56ec
[18:30] <ubuntunewuser> Usuing ubuntu 9.10. my laptop Compaq Pressario R3000. My wireless is on..but it cant find any wireless around?
[18:30] <Prabz> ubuntunewuser, it's working now, and i don't know how and why it stopped working,
[18:30] <Slart> zagabar: sudo -i      then    echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward       then exit    no reboot needed.. it should start working right away
[18:31] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: does your laptop have a button on the keyboard or switch that turns off the wireless?
[18:31] <ubuntunewuser> do you know how to fix it Prabz?
[18:31] <ubuntunewuser> yes
[18:31] <ubuntunewuser> but its on
[18:31] <ubuntunewuser> but on Ubuntu it wont scan for any channels
[18:31] <minimec> Prabz: You could replay ofn the forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381560&page=2), to check the eth1+2 thing.
[18:31] <Slart> norbi905: the creative card is at line 30
[18:31] <JoeSomeLap> yoyoned, that is ON NOW DOH (it was on my itself in xp)
[18:32] <Prabz> ubuntunewuser, which card do you have? pastebin output of lshw -c net
[18:32] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: sometimes it's the easy stuff
[18:32] <Prabz> minimec, I will
[18:32] <minimec> Prabz: Cool.
[18:32] <JoeSomeLap> well i am still without wireless
[18:32] <ubuntunewuser> Prabz you mean put lshw -c net in a terminal right?
[18:32] <JoeSomeLap> this is all new to me
[18:33] <Prabz> ubuntunewuser, yes
[18:33] <zagabar> Slart: Nope, still cannot ping. Maybe there is some problem with the eth1 device? Can I check that it is working correctly somehow?
[18:33] <yoyoned> JoeSomeLap: are you using the GUI
[18:33] <norbi905> Slart: here is mine    http://pastebin.com/m5d9f8965   as you can see, there is nothing in regards to a media controller
[18:33] <Prabz> JoeSomeLap, you have which adapter?
[18:33] <norbi905> Slart:  Maybe driver isn't installed?  Any suggestions?
[18:33] <yoyoned> !networkmanager
[18:33] <patoncito1> Slart: in fact i don't know very well, just think it was the appropriate place to modify the kernel during the boot to solve my pb
[18:33] <JoeSomeLap> 02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser> Prabz it says WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser>   *-network:0
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser>        description: Ethernet interface
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser>        product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[18:34] <ubuntunewuser>        physical id: 1
[18:34] <FloodBot2> ubuntunewuser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <Prabz> minimec, it's been keeping back the latest kernel updates
[18:34] <Slart> zagabar: ehm.. I'm not really sure.. network cards usually work if they are detected by lspci and such.. I don't really know how to "test" any other way
[18:34] <minimec> Prabz: So you are updating now?
[18:35] <zagabar> Slart: Okay.
[18:35] <OerHeks> !wpa
[18:35] <Prabz> minimec, yes, i get the daily chromium builds.. :)
[18:40] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[18:41] <Prabz> minimec, http://pastebin.com/d73fbfb9e
[18:42] <Prabz> minimec, libc caused the error, I guess?
[18:43] <mamooli> does anyone knows of xmind?
[18:43] <minimec> Prabz: I have enormous problems (lag) with freenode today...  Just checked your update history...
[18:44] <zagabar> Slart: Is a system reboot  required after that ics guide?
[18:44] <Hilikus> i have a script that constructs a call to rsync from variables and config files and a bunch of things but ultimately rsync runs and it needs to run as root. I want to cron it. what would be more secure: to cron with sudo myScript or to cron it to myScript and inside myScript call sudo rsync?
[18:44] <Slart> zagabar: nope.. it should work once you've run all the commands
[18:45] <minimec> Prabz: I cannot tell you.
[18:46] <zagabar> Slart: Wtf, it randomly started working now. : D Thanks for the help.
[18:46] <minimec> Prabz: ... what caused the error.
[18:46] <Slart> zagabar: hehe.. and they say computers are predictable.. =)
[18:46] <Prabz> minimec, thanks a lot for your help, though... :)
[18:46] <Hilikus> i have a script that constructs a call to rsync from variables and config files and a bunch of things but ultimately rsync runs and it needs to run as root. I want to cron it. what would be more secure: to cron with sudo myScript or to cron it to myScript and inside myScript call sudo rsync?
[18:46] <zagabar> Yeah... xD
[18:46] <fluxw0rm> wow
[18:47] <minimec> Prabz: np
[18:47] <yoyoned> If you have sudo in a cron job, you have to set sudo so it doesn't require a password.  I would call the script from roots crontab by running sudo crontab -e
[18:48] <Prabz> minimec, what do you do, btw?
[18:49] <minimec> Prabz: Right now? Watching tv on the left screen and chatting on the right one ... ;) For living? Law graduate.
[18:50] <Prabz> minimec, Wow, law graduate, and so much into ubuntu, cool
[18:50] <maco> Prabz: one of the ubuntuforums.org moderators is a law grad
[18:51] <maco> the licensing is probably fascinating
[18:51] <minimec> Prabz: My first Distro was SuSE 6.1 *rofl* I am addicted...
[18:51] <Prabz> maco: that's great...
[18:51] <arand> !ot
[18:52] <Prabz> minimec,  lol, nice
[18:56] <Pathero-ng> hello people
[18:56] <Pathero-ng> I have a problem loading firefox
[18:56] <Pathero-ng> when loading as user takes some extra time then when loading it as root
[18:57] <Prabz> minimec, so you must be using kde?
[18:57] <wolter> Pathero-ng, do you have many plugins?
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> just 2
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> I disabled them still no go
[18:57] <wolter> which?
[18:57] <wolter> oh
[18:57] <wolter> Hm, thats a weird problem Pathero-ng
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> default and shsckware
[18:57] <wolter> does it happen with other applications?
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> shockwave
[18:57] <fluxw0rm> Does anyone know how to change the GDM theme in Karmic, since the previous way of doing this has been taken out by Gnome unfortunantly.
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> not with other graphical gui loaded as user
[18:57] <Pathero-ng> just firefox this hapened
[18:58] <Pathero-ng> after I renamed firefox to fire
[18:58] <Pathero-ng> under su control
[18:58] <wolter> hm
[18:58] <guntbert> !enter | Pathero-ng
[18:58] <wolter> could you rewind that and test again?
[18:58] <Prabz> Pathero-ng, use chrome :)
[18:58] <wolter> fluxw0rm, I have always been able to drag a *.tar.* with a theme inside it to the Appearance app and change themes in no time
[18:59] <minimec> Prabz: Oh no! I always used gnome. With SuSE 6.1 we were using fwvm ... *rofl*
[18:59] <wolter> Pathero-ng, I also recommend chrome..
[18:59] <wolter> Pathero-ng, but anyway, if you cannot rewind those changes you can reinstall firefox
[18:59] <fluxw0rm> ls
[18:59] <fluxw0rm> woops
[18:59] <fluxw0rm> wolter: ah, thanks.
[19:00] <wolter> Pathero-ng, and next time, copy or link firefox to fire instead of moving (renaming) it
[19:00] <wolter> fluxw0rm, did it work?
[19:00] <blakkheim> Pathero-ng: you could mv your ~/.mozilla to a different backup directory and then start firefox. all settings will be reset..
[19:00] <wolter> Pathero-ng, good advice ^
[19:02] <fluxw0rm> wolter: it appears to be an invalid theme when dragging the .tar.gz file into the Appearance app.
[19:02] <fluxw0rm> Perhaps I can move the theme folder somewhere like ~/.themes or whatever directory GDM keeps its theme files.
[19:03] <Todd> evening
[19:03] <wolter> Thats what dragging to Appearance does
[19:03] <wolter> fluxw0rm, can you compare a theme that works by dragging with the one that does not? download both tar.gz files and observe the structure
[19:05] <gibsonf1> I'm having trouble get stunnel to find my SSL library installation on Ubuntu 7.1 with openssl 0.9.8e - does anyone have any ideas?
[19:05] <kevinp> Ok I am having a problems starting up Opnshot on Karmic and am running into this error can anyone point me in the right direction: *** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***
[19:05] <kevinp> *** ERROR: MLT Python bindings failed to import ***
[19:05] <kevinp> Exception in thread Thread-1:
[19:05] <kevinp> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:05] <kevinp>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 525, in __bootstrap_inner
[19:05] <kevinp>     self.run()
[19:05] <kevinp>   File "/usr/share/openshot/classes/thumbnail.py", line 174, in run
[19:05] <kevinp>     mlt.Factory().init()
[19:05] <kevinp> NameError: global name 'mlt' is not defined
[19:05] <kevinp> -------------------------------------------------------
[19:05] <protojay> FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
[19:05] <kevinp> Error:  OpenShot has not been installed in the Python path.
[19:05] <LjL> !pastebin | kevinp
[19:05] <kevinp> (Both the site-packages and /usr/share/openshot folders were checked)
[19:05] <kevinp> Use the following command to install OpenShot:
[19:05] <kevinp>   $ sudo python setup.py install
[19:06] <kevinp> sorry
[19:09] <kevinp> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m74d3c343
[19:10] <Mozzytm> i have set up a static ip in  '/etc/network/interfaces'  but when i run ifconfig it has no ip?
[19:11] <iceroot> Mozzytm: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:11] <Mozzytm> yeah i tried thar
[19:11] <Mozzytm> *that
[19:11] <Mozzytm> still no joy
[19:11] <iceroot> Mozzytm: output of syntax-error?
[19:12] <Mozzytm>  inet6 addr: is just blank
[19:12] <Mozzytm> unlike lo and wlan0
[19:12] <iceroot> Mozzytm: you want to set ipv4 or ipv6?
[19:12] <Mozzytm> erm... 4 i think
[19:13] <Mozzytm> well.... 4 will definately do
[19:13] <iceroot> Mozzytm: post the output of /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin
[19:13] <Mozzytm> !pastebin
[19:14] <Mozzytm> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7b373e56
[19:15] <Mozzytm> have i missed anything?
[19:15] <Mozzytm> im also using wicd as my network manager
[19:16] <Hilikus> is it possible to limit sudo to give root READ access? its for backup and the process has to read everything to back it up but there's no need to give it write access on everything like normal sudo does
[19:16] <zagabar> if I have set up ics so that one network card is input for other computers, and one is output to the internet, how do I add a wireless card as input?
[19:16] <iceroot> Hilikus: root is always allowed to do everything
[19:17] <iceroot> Mozzytm: if i am correct network-manager and wicd are ignoring /etc/network/interfaces
[19:17] <Mozzytm> riiiighht..... so i need a similar setup in there
[19:17] <Hilikus> iceroot: i know. is there a way (even not sudo) to give a process ONLY read access to everything?
[19:17] <iceroot> Hilikus: start it as a specific user and gave that user read-acces (chmod)
[19:18] <mikeyfbi2> im trying to burn onto a dvd disk, and i can do it once after i boot ubuntu, but if i try to do another one ... it keeps telling me to "insert a recordable dvd"
[19:18] <mikeyfbi2> but there's already one in there
[19:18] <mikeyfbi2> it doesn't recognize it for some reason
[19:18] <mikeyfbi2> works fine first time after reboot, second time ... no dice
[19:18] <Hilikus> iceroot: ???
[19:18] <Mozzytm> ok ive set up a static ip profile in wicd... lets see what happens on the windows pc
[19:19] <iceroot> Hilikus: you know what rwxr-x--- is?
[19:19] <Hilikus> icedtea: yes, this is for a system backup. i can't possibly modify every file in my system to give a backup user read access
[19:19] <Hilikus> iceroot: ^^
[19:19] <Hilikus> icedtea: sorry
[19:20] <iceroot> Hilikus: what about keeping the permissions? so everyone can only that read what he could read before the backup?
[19:20] <Icehawk78> What's the best way to compare all files in two directories to each other, to see which files don't match?
[19:20] <Mozzytm> nah... im having shed loads of bother here
[19:20] <Mozzytm> its worked for 30 seconds
[19:21] <Mozzytm> and never since
[19:21] <Hilikus> iceroot: thats taken care of
[19:21] <peleg> Hey. I am trying to burn data dvd and I keep getting ":-( unable to INQUIRY: Input/output error" -- do you know what should I do?
[19:21] <Threetimes> I just installed ubuntu on a brand new laptop, but it starts flickering at the tty1 login prompt. I can't type my password, cause half of my keystrokes don't work.
[19:21] <oCean_> Hilikus: backup software always runs with sufficient privileges to read *all* files. - so run your backup software/commands as root. What's the problem in that?
[19:22] <Threetimes> 9.10 32 bit^
[19:22] <peleg> Hey. I am trying to burn data dvd and I keep getting ":-( unable to INQUIRY: Input/output error" -- do you know what should I do?
[19:22] <peleg> I am using gnomebaker.
[19:22] <gibsonf1> Does anyone have stunnel working on gutsy?
[19:22] <cwheeler> what do I need to install to run 32 bit programs in 64 bit ubuntu?
[19:22] <iceroot> cwheeler: nothing
[19:22] <Phong_> hi
[19:23] <Mozzytm> ill just have to stick to XP for ICS for the moment
[19:23] <Phong_> can office 2007 run in ubuntu
[19:23] <Mozzytm> ill have another crack tomorrow
[19:23] <cwheeler> thanks
[19:23] <Hilikus> oCean_: i don't want to give it root WRITE access (if this is even possible). the backup script might get hacked and then it has full root access. if it runs as "read-only root" that's not the case
[19:23] <iceroot> !appdb | Phong_
[19:23] <Phong_> ok
[19:23] <iceroot> Hilikus: again, root can always do everything
[19:23] <oCean_> Hilikus: no, it just does not work that way.
[19:24] <iceroot> Hilikus: write a script using rsync and run it as root
[19:25] <Hilikus> iceroot: i know, again, it doesnt have to be root. as long as there is a way to give a user read all access without giving it write all access i would be happy. i just don't know if there is such a thing
[19:25] <Phong_> i think it does work
[19:25] <Phong_> ;)
[19:25] <iceroot> Hilikus: no
[19:25] <iceroot> Hilikus: there are files, only root can read
[19:25] <adityag> i just installed 9.10, but i get very low resolution which is 640x400 max, can any1 help pls ?
[19:25] <Hilikus> ok, got it
[19:25] <Hilikus> thanks guys
[19:26] <Izinucs> adityag: what kind of video card do you have? nvidia, ati, intel?
[19:26] <arvind_khadri> !fixres | adityag
[19:27] <adityag>  Izinucs: arvind_khadri: dont have any video card, its with the motherboard
[19:27] <arvind_khadri> adityag, read the last link the bot gave you
[19:28] <Izinucs> adityag: that just means that the card is integrated but will be one of several brands.. if you don't know what it is then you can follow the link that arvind_khadri provided through ubottu
[19:28] <adityag> arvind_khadri: i tried that, but that does not work, i installed 7.10, resolution is fine there
[19:29] <LinuX2half> Why when I insert a blank DVD-R, Brasero can't seem to detect the recordable disc
[19:29] <Izinucs> adityag: open a terminal and type ... lspci .. the resulting list will tell you what card is being used by the system.. you can also look in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers to see if there is a driver sitting there that needs to be activated.
[19:29] <strywgr> adityag, you tried changign it? system -> prefences -> display?
[19:29] <adityag>  strywgr: tried it, get a max resolution of 680x400
[19:30] <Izinucs> adityag: is it a store bought computer? if so what brand and model number?
[19:30] <adityag>  Izinucs: ok, i'll try it
[19:30] <Phong_> office 2007 work in wine wow
[19:30] <Phong_> nice
[19:30] <iceroot> Phong_: and openoffice nativ
[19:30] <Phong_> question: do i really need to install norton for ubuntu?
[19:30] <strywgr> What graphics card are you using?
[19:30]  * Izinucs slaps forehead for Microsoft's implementation of the "ribbon".. ach! 
[19:30] <iceroot> Phong_: of course not
[19:31] <Phong_> ok thanksi'll do that
[19:31] <Phong_> brb
[19:31] <LinuX2half> Why Brasero can't detect my recordable disc?
[19:31] <Izinucs> LinuX2half: try k3b and see if it's the same
[19:31] <adityag>  Izinucs: its an assempled PC, P4, motherboard - MSI xxxx
[19:32] <LinuX2half> lzinucs: I'm trying to burn data in a DVD-R disc, does that applies also to the k3b application?
[19:32] <Izinucs> LinuX2half: sure
[19:32] <Threetimes> Hi, I have to install updates from the recovery console, but my network doesn't want to work...
[19:33] <Izinucs> adityag: I assume you ment assembled? if so do you know the model of the MSI board?
[19:33] <Phong_> office 2007 install fine, but not run
[19:33] <LinuX2half> lzinucs: okay I'll try
[19:33] <Phong_> hahaha
[19:33] <Threetimes> As in: Ubuntu doesn't see the (working) network
[19:33] <arvind_khadri> Izinucs, what ribbon?
[19:33] <adityag>  Izinucs: yeah, wait i'll take the manual out
[19:34] <AshishMalik> Hey ppl
[19:34] <Izinucs> arvind_khadri: Office 2007 uses a new UI for the menu structure.. it's referred to as the "ribbon".. if you're use to the other method similar to what OOo has then it's incredibly frustrating to find the functions/tools you need
[19:35] <arvind_khadri> Izinucs, ohh :) ftw!!! :P
[19:36] <AshishMalik> Can anyone tell me about any book that will help me operate on everything in linux from command line. I'm a novice and new to linux world. I love the command line
[19:36] <Izinucs> arvind_khadri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007
[19:37] <Phong_> can anyone tell me why i can install office 2007 but can't seem to run it
[19:37] <Izinucs> Phong_: check out winehq.org or .com I forget.. they have info on running winXX programs in wine on linux
[19:38] <schultza> later
[19:38] <Izinucs> AshishMalik: google for Ubuntu Pocket Reference Guide.. it's a free pdf download that will get you started.
[19:38] <LinuX2half> Why can't I update my computer, it said that another application is running apt.
[19:38] <LinuX2half> I've already closed my terminal but it still won't update
[19:39] <trubble> help :'<
[19:39] <Izinucs> LinuX2half: do you have synaptic open? or is update manager running in the background? or do you have add/remove open..
[19:39] <adityag>  Izinucs: MSI has the following chip VIA P4M800
[19:39] <soopos> When is this server going to be online at E: Failed getting release file http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release
[19:39] <trubble> guys i think i deleted my partition
[19:40] <gharz> guys, i'm using acer extensa 4220 and it has built in texas instrument 5-1 card reader... how do i make this work? it doesn't read memory cards?
[19:40] <soopos> The server has been done now about 30 minutes
[19:40] <LinuX2half> lzinucs: No, none of the application is open but I close the terminal when installing the k3b package, its somehow frozen. And then the update manager tells me to close an application running apt.
[19:40] <Pathero-ng> I got an acer aspire
[19:40] <guntbert> AshishMalik: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:41] <trubble> How would one go about recovering a missing file system?
[19:41] <LinuX2half> lzinucs: I've just restarted the update manager and then it gave me an error telling me something that's lock
[19:41] <guntbert> !tldp | AshishMalik: for deeper insights
[19:41] <Izinucs> adityag: amazon shows a S3 Graphics Unichrome driver for that board if it's the same one.. I don't know much about S3 other than it's been a pain in the backside in the past.. if you have an AGP slot on that board you could pickup a cheap Nvidia that would do you much better.. probably for under $30us
[19:41] <trubble> i need some srs tech support
[19:41] <jefinc> how do I make it so that I don't require a password everytime I want to mount a drive?
[19:41] <gharz> anyone?
[19:41] <jefinc> ***in 9.10
[19:42] <daftykins> jefinc: in what situation are you mounting drives so often?
[19:42] <adityag> Izinucs: ok thanks.....
[19:43] <jefinc> daftykins: I do a lot of IT work, throw a client's HD into an external
[19:43] <AshishMalik> /invite help
[19:43] <Izinucs> jefinc: list it in fstab so it automounts.. also there use to be a utility for mounting drives easily.. started with py<something>
[19:44] <guntbert> AshishMalik: did you look at the links I sent you?
[19:44] <gionnico> Hello!
[19:44] <gionnico> I've got an animated gif. How can I resize it with linux?
[19:44] <mikey_p> is there a simple command to open a nautilus window do a specific directory from a shell?
[19:44] <jefinc> Izinucs: thanks, will look around
[19:45] <minimec> Izinucs: jefinc: In your case, modifying the /etc/fstab will not do, as you often change the HD and each HD has it's own UUID
[19:45] <LinuX2half> Why is the system telling me that another application is running aptitude and that I need to close that program before I can update.
[19:46] <maco> LinuX2half: because of what it just said? do you ahve apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, or the software center runnig?
[19:46] <AshishMalik> Yes I looked at them
[19:46] <LinuX2half> maco: No, none of them is running, I've closed them
[19:46] <mail2345> hey, i'm attempting to configure dbus with dpkg and i get the message "The system user `messagebus' already exists. Exiting." followed by a hang until i ctrl-c
[19:46] <AshishMalik> hey, how do i send message to a particular person in irrsi
[19:46] <LinuX2half> maco: I did run the terminal but its closed
[19:46] <maco> LinuX2half: is the thing where it automatically checks for updates running in the background right now maybe?
[19:47] <AshishMalik> i mean in irssi
[19:47] <minimec> AshishMalik: /msg nick that is a test.
[19:47] <guntbert> AshishMalik: type the nick in front of your sentence, you can use <tab> completion for nicks too
[19:47] <bastid_raZor> AshishMalik: /msg username message ...there is an #irssi channel as well
[19:48] <minimec> AshishMalik: Most people don't like to recieve private messages here ... ;)
[19:48] <LinuX2half> maco:  alright, looks like its updating now. I think that I had killed the update notifier and wait for some seconds to take effect.
[19:48] <AshishMalik> ok
[19:48] <LinuX2half> maco: But its still updating slowly.
[19:50] <gionnico> how comes, EOG doesn't show gif animations?
[19:50] <guntbert> gionnico: what is EOG?
[19:50] <bastid_raZor> eye of gnome
[19:50] <bastid_raZor> guntbert: gnomes picture viewer
[19:50] <assad> the time shown in twitter about the latest tweet. is it live or relative to the persons time zone if i am in a different timezone!
[19:50] <gionnico> guntbert: gnome'simage viewer
[19:50] <guntbert> bastid_raZor: thank you
[19:51] <assad> e.g. it if thr is a diff. of 2hours in A and B and A twts at 1pm then when its 1pm at B it would show the time of last twt?
[19:51] <bastid_raZor> gionnico: i've often wondered that too.. never tried to find a reason why though.
[19:51] <guntbert> assad: wrong window?
[19:51] <bastid_raZor> guntbert: glad i could help :)
[19:51] <gionnico> bastid_raZor: how can I see an animated gif (apart from opening with firefox... that is STUPID)?
[19:52] <nshb> anyone here able to help me out with a few minutes of their time? Need to get votes to present in San Fran for investment.. http://blog.vidli.com/vidli-victory/
[19:52] <guntbert> nshb: not here please
[19:52] <bastid_raZor> gionnico: i do not know, i've used firefox to view :\
[19:52] <gionnico> xD
[19:52] <gionnico> nevermind
[19:52] <nshb> guntbert: gotcha..
[19:53] <bastid_raZor> nshb: possibly #ubuntu-offtopic though
[19:53] <assad> guntbert, #twitter is silent!
[19:53] <Ddorda1> hey! grub2 finds another windows entry on my pc, how can i remove it?
[19:54] <daftykins> !grub2 | Ddorda1
[19:54] <guntbert> assad: still: this is ubuntu support - please keep to the topic
[19:54] <nshb> thx bastid_raZor
[19:54] <Diverdude> is telnet supported on the nix platform?
[19:54] <hypn0> j #ubuntu+1
[19:55] <AshishMalik> Diverdude : yes
[19:55] <assad> ok
[19:55] <assad> :)
[19:55] <guntbert> Diverdude: as server or as client?
[19:55] <Pathero-ng> telnet isnt' it like tivco
[19:55] <SJr|nx> I just ran dd_rescue and there were some errors, I have the log, but how do I figure out what on disk they actually map too?
[19:55] <AshishMalik> Diverdude : both
[19:55] <fluxw0rm> Diverdude: Please consider using sshd as telnet is not very secure.
[19:57] <trubble> can i get some tech support please
[19:57] <guntbert> !ask | trubble
[19:57] <airstrike> !find transcode
[19:58] <EKrava> http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/88383-cliwall2.png - very nice for new users
[19:59] <gionnico> bastid_raZor: EOG-2.30 will support animations. :)
[20:00] <AshishMalik> Anyone about program like Adobe Flash for creating animations in UBUNTU
[20:00] <lucky> My laptop doesn't wake from sleep or hibernate with Ubuntu.
[20:02] <MrKeuner> hello, I see in top that gnome-do application is in S mode. But the key combination to invoke gnome-do does not seem to work, what does that mean. Well in those cases I just kill the process and restart a new instance but can something else be done? What is really happening there?
[20:12] <{}> Anybody in need of help?
[20:14] <trubble> kinda
[20:14] <trubble> I deleted my partition
[20:14] <trubble> I'm using testdisk to fix it but I dunno if it will work
[20:15] <Jasonrj> I'm an Ubuntu newbie. I just installed xubuntu and wireless internet is not working. I'm not sure where to start, i've been searching online with little luck.
[20:17] <UbuN2> can try here Jasonrj https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[20:18] <minimec> Jasonrj: first: open a gnome-terminal and type iwconfig in it. Do yu see any wireless device?
[20:19] <mrwes> Is it me, or is Firefox getting faster and faster as of the latest update?
[20:19] <mattgyver> Hey guys, i setup a raid1 config in ubuntu back when i first setup this box, i just wanna test to make sure its working properly, can i just unplug a drive  and see if it boots?
[20:19] <Jasonrj> minimec: I see "lo no wireless extensions." and on the next line "eth0 no wireless extensions."
[20:20] <Lostinspace_46> I put this little snippet in my ~/.bashrc file to run xbindkeys at startup.  Could someone look here to see what I did wrong?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d25bf220a
[20:20] <mrwes> Jasonrj, have you checked System | Admin | Hardware Drivers ?
[20:20] <iceroot> mattgyver: yes, that is the job of a raid1
[20:21] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: why are you using ~/.bashrc?
[20:21] <mattgyver> iceroot, yeah i just wanted to make sure thats how i would go about testing the raid
[20:21] <jrib> !startup | Lostinspace_46
[20:21] <mattgyver> Its at a point where i kinda need to know that i set it up right ;)
[20:21] <minimec> Jasonrj: Ok. now type dmesg in the console. Look for some errors in conerning your wireless device.
[20:22] <Jasonrj> mrwes, Yes, it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[20:22] <minimec> Jasonrj: If you can, paste.ubuntu.com us the output.
[20:22] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: and '.' is not a mysterious thing to execute things.  . is a special symlink to the current directory
[20:22] <mrwes> Jasonrj, hrmm.....type lspci at the terminal
[20:23] <mrwes> Jasonrj, look for your wireless card: 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[20:23] <brummbaer> Lostinspace_46, like jrib said, the '.' is what jumps out at me.
[20:23] <mrwes> something similar to that
[20:23] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: but ~/.bashrc is not the right place for what you are doing anyway, see ubottu
[20:23] <daftykins> if i want to move a folder 'folder' into another using "mv" how can i tell it i don't care about it overwriting all the contents? it's manually updating wordpress. i can't see anything useful on the manpage for 'mv'
[20:24] <mrwes> mv -f for force
[20:24] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> because I want to learn scripting. I meant that to be ./ which I thought meant run
[20:24] <daftykins> mrwes: it still says 'directory not empty'
[20:25] <lucky> My laptop (Toshiba NB305) doesn't wake from sleep or hibernate with Ubuntu, where should i go to start trying to fix this? :/
[20:25] <brummbaer> Lostinspace_46, ./ is for running a script in current dir.
[20:25] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: it's good that you want to learn scripting, but this is not a good case for it
[20:25] <mrwes> daftykins, -t for target directory?
[20:25] <Lostinspace_46> brummbaer>  thanks
[20:25] <daftykins> mrwes: ah that seemed to throw no errors, i'll see what it did! thanks
[20:26] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> Why.. or why not?
[20:26] <mrwes> daftykins, you can always use -verbose to see what's going on
[20:26] <Jasonrj> mrwes, The only thing that seems like it is my wireless card is this: "02:04:0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[20:26] <daftykins> mrwes: yeah, haha actually that totally deleted my destination folder.
[20:26] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: because .bashrc gets executed everytime you start a bash shell and I assume you don't want to have xbindkeys run everytime you start a shell but instead want it to run one time (when you log in)
[20:27] <mrwes> Jasonrj, INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter << that's your card
[20:27] <phong_> hi guys, how to completely remove wine ?
[20:27] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> Correct
[20:27] <erUSUL> phong_: sudo aptitude purge wine
[20:27] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: so follow ubottu's instructions
[20:28] <erUSUL> phong_: then remove your wine personal dir « rm -r ~/.wine/ »
[20:28] <mrwes> Jasonrj, As far as I know, there are no linux drivers for this card, and you need to use ndiswrapper.
[20:28] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:28]  * jrib readies his fingers
[20:28] <mrwes> !ndiswrapper | Jasonrj
[20:29]  * erUSUL looks for cover
[20:29] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> Thanks, I will try that.
[20:29] <mrwes> hrmm WTF was that?
[20:29] <Jasonrj> mrwes, thanks, checking out ndiswrapper now
[20:29] <jrib> mrwes: what was what?
[20:29] <minimec> Jasonrj: Did you check the dmesg output?
[20:29] <phong_> erusul: it keep asking to delete  1 by 1 with rm -r
[20:29] <mrwes> jrib, the floodbot notice
[20:29] <phong_> anyway tell it not to ask ?
[20:30] <jrib> mrwes: it was just letting everyone know I -R the channel
[20:30] <bastid_raZor>  phong_ rm -rf  ..add the f option
[20:30] <phong_> ok
[20:30] <erUSUL> phong_: try « rm -fr ~/.wine/ »
[20:30] <mrwes> ahh...I should supress that :)
[20:30] <Jasonrj> minimec, yes sorry, I'm a newbie and kinda lost in that... Not really sure what I'm looking at
[20:30] <EntityReborn> is there a way to install x64 from a x32 copy of the live cd (given you have a x64 copy of the iso)
[20:31] <Pingue> Hey
[20:31] <minimec> Jasonrj: Can paste.ubuntu.com the complete output of dmesg?
[20:31] <Pingue> is it possible to format ubuntu without using gparted? o.0
[20:31] <jrib> Pingue: you could use parted?
[20:32] <jmichaelx>  i recently formatted a new 2TB drive to etx4 w/indexing. i then proceeded to backup a 400GB ext3 drive to the 2TB drive. after having finished, the backup from the 400GB drive has taken up 1600GB on the 2TB drive. how could this be? what could i do to keep this backup from taking up so much room?
[20:32] <Pingue> I cant get internet on my laptop and I need to remove ubuntu cause my discs wont boot :S
[20:32] <Pingue> parted, is it installed automaticly?
[20:32] <Jasonrj> minimec, ok, hold on
[20:32] <jrib> eric_3: welcome
[20:33] <ShazbotMcNasty> Pingue, what do you mean? You need to get ubuntu off? And put what on?
[20:33] <CAPcap> I need something comparable to Dreamweaver. Suggestions?
[20:33] <eric_3> hey. I need to know which protocol is right for me. I am looking to just send instructions like locations of objects over an Ethernet connection. Can you help me choose a protocol?
[20:33] <Pingue> windows 95 >_>
[20:34] <daftykins> CAPcap: bluefish ?
[20:34] <Pingue> I'm just wondering, can I format ubuntu without internet - discs arent booting up so I cant format it through another setup..
[20:34] <Pingue> LAN Doesnt even work :S
[20:34] <guntbert> eric_3: try ##networking
[20:34] <eric_3> join ##networking
[20:34] <minimec> Jasonrj: Searched the internet a little bit. You need the ndiswrapper.
[20:35] <EntityReborn> is there a way to install x64 from a x32 copy of the live cd (given you have a x64 copy of the iso)
[20:35] <mrwes> minimec, told him that 10 minutes ago :P
[20:35] <jrib> !wifi | Jasonrj
[20:35] <mrwes> that too :)
[20:35] <ShazbotMcNasty> Pingue, just put the windows 95 CD in and it should reformat and install
[20:35] <baltadt> h
[20:36] <phong_> wine still installed
[20:36] <phong_> god
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> !install | EntityReborn check this page out and see if it helps
[20:36] <Jasonrj> minimec, ok, that is what someone else said a minute ago as well... looking into it now
[20:36] <jrib> EntityReborn: there's probably /some/ way but it's also probably not straightforward and it would be a lot easier to just burn a disc or use a flash drive with the amd64 installer
[20:36] <Pingue> it doesnt boot it ShazbotMcNasty
[20:36] <RandomUsr_> hello
[20:36] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> I looked. I know how to do that. Is there a tut to teach me how to do it  by scripting?
[20:36] <superPi> what is the command to launch the dictionary?
[20:36] <mrwes> Pingue, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[20:37] <RandomUsr_> how can I change whether a program starts upon boot without using cron?
[20:37] <minimec> Jasonrj: 'They' also say, that this driver is best for the 2200 card http://media.ubuntuusers.de/forum/attachments/1774535/ipn2220_32_64_all_mod.tar.gz
[20:37] <mneptok> RandomUsr_: through SysV init or Upstart
[20:37] <RandomUsr_> I mean services and not programs....
[20:37] <RandomUsr_> mneptok, where are those located?
[20:38] <jrib> Lostinspace_46: read about xsession files I guess.  If you want to learn scripting though, I recommend you read the advanced bash scripting guide at tldp.org
[20:38] <Troutfool1> Can anyone recommend a channel for FTP Server setup?  GADMIN or command line.
[20:38] <jrib> superPi: I don't have the program but my first guess would be gnome-dict<TAB><TAB>
[20:38] <mneptok> RandomUsr_: they are integral to the system. if you have never heard of them before, there is no way i can teach you in an IRC session about how they are implemented and used. start doing some research, then come back if you have specific issues.
[20:39] <Lostinspace_46> jrib> Thanks, I'll do that.
[20:39] <Troutfool1> gnome-dict, Thanks
[20:39] <eric_3> hello i can not join ##java.
[20:39] <eric_3> can you help?
[20:39] <iceroot> eric_3: #freenode
[20:40] <eric_3> #freenode
[20:40] <LinuX2half> Why when I insert a blank disc, my computer won't recognized it?
[20:40] <jrib> eric_3: you aren't identified
[20:40] <RandomUsr_> mneptok, could have just said read the info page for upstart
[20:40] <iceroot> eric_3: /join #freenode
[20:40] <guntbert> eric_3: you need to be registered
[20:40] <pitput> hi. does anyone know how to join the mac channel?
[20:40] <eric_3> i am regestered though
[20:40] <jrib> eric_3: you aren't identified
[20:40] <iceroot> pitput: /join #nameofthechannel
[20:40] <LinuX2half> pitput: #apple or mac
[20:40] <pitput> iceroot, LinuX2half thank you guys!
[20:41] <eric_3> nickServ how do i log in
[20:42] <eric_3> NickServ ho do i log in
[20:42] <jrib> eric_3: read the page ubottu linked you to before with info about registering or ask in #freenode as others pointed out
[20:42] <LinuX2half> Does anyone know why my computer isn't able to detect the blank media disc? I'm trying to burn an iso image in the disc but somehow it failed at recognizing my disc. Since its already inserted, disk utility should be able to see the media inserted.....
[20:42] <CAPcap> Any programs that can create/edit flash?
[20:43] <Pingue> Adobe Flash cs4?
[20:43] <Pingue> CAPcap
[20:43] <CAPcap> um... doesnt run on this...
[20:43] <Troutfool1> Couldn't finad a channel called gnome-dict...Any other recommendations on a channel to discuss ProFTPD issues?  GADMIN or command line?
[20:43] <mimorsate> hi. how to make s-video output on tv have colours? video card: intel x3100, system:ubuntu karmic
[20:44] <jgcampbell300> hello. Can anyone tell me if there is a software set for linux (free) that does all that BeLarc services do ?
[20:44] <Pingue> can anyone PLEASE help me format ubuntu, without internet.. :/
[20:44] <Pingue> ?
[20:44] <LinuX2half> It seemed that no one here is available.....
[20:44] <erUSUL> Pingue: format ubuntu ?
[20:44] <Pingue> yeah
[20:45] <jrib> jgcampbell300: and what do "BeLarc services" do exactly?
[20:45] <Pingue> without gparted/parted I cant even use a .. cmd im not gona say here cause I'll get banned
[20:45] <jgcampbell300> Pingue: put in live cd and open gparted and format it
[20:45] <jrib> LinuX2half: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:45] <Pingue> live cd jgcampbell300?
[20:45] <boss_mc> LinuX2half: probably no-one knows the answer to your question...
[20:45] <LinuX2half> Alright, I want to ask how come brasero is unable detect my blank DVD?
[20:46] <Troutfool1> I've configured my FTP  server manually, and through GADMIN.  Starting the server, I cannot confirm that the daemon is up (plus remote FTP timesout).
[20:46] <jgcampbell300> jrib: they manage computers, networks, find security problams, from the way it reads it is an IT tool for manageing a network
[20:46] <jgcampbell300> Pingue: the cd you used to install ubuntu
[20:46] <Pingue> okay and how does that give me internet to install gparted :S
[20:47] <LinuX2half> Disk Utility should have been able to detect the blank DVD-R.
[20:47] <jgcampbell300> Pingue: put it in, boot from cd, run as live cd, open Gparted, manage the hard drives you wish to manage, reboot, take cd out and its blank
[20:47] <boss_mc> Pingue: gparted in on the liveCD
[20:47] <Casieo> I have a question about partitioning and having multi os
[20:47] <LinuX2half> My computer isn't able to detect the disc inserted
[20:47] <ponsinsun> "ivman" can't mount my filesystem. it just show a directory.
[20:47] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[20:48] <Troutfool1> No FTP Server thoughts...other channels to recommend?
[20:48] <Pingue> ill try
[20:48] <RandomUsr_> mneptok, is it possible to use a symlink in  /etc/init.d ? if so, is that bad/incorrect use of init.d
[20:48] <jgcampbell300> ok another question, I would like to manage all of the computers on my local net work, setup a vpn to two of my friends and manage there computers as well, can anyone tell me if there is software that would help-give me a gui for this
[20:49] <EntityReborn> is there a way to install x64 from a x32 copy of the live cd (given you have a x64 copy of the iso). The /installation link wasn't of much help
[20:50] <Dextronaught> when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[20:50] <RandomUsr_> yo
[20:51] <boss_mc> EntityReborn: not really, you can make a liveUSB from the 64 bit ISO if needs be...
[20:51] <Dextronaught> Hi, RandomUsr_.
[20:51] <blakkheim> jgcampbell300: ssh
[20:51] <blakkheim> EntityReborn: not that i know of
[20:51] <EntityReborn> k
[20:51] <morrowyn> yellow
[20:52] <LinuX2half> Why my Blank disc isn't being recognized after being inserted.......?
[20:52] <erUSUL> LinuX2half: not even seen if you open brasero
[20:52] <morrowyn> can someone tell me if there is webbased config tool for ufw or iptables?
[20:52] <Dextronaught> LinuX2half, maybe you burned it too fast, try slow speeds.
[20:52] <jgcampbell300> ok, how about a app for visualy mapping out a network ?
[20:53] <erUSUL> !info ebox-firewall | morrowyn
[20:53] <Pingue> this live cd thing should i choose "Try ubuntu without any changes to your computer" ? :S
[20:53] <erUSUL> !ebox | morrowyn
[20:53] <Casieo> do they make mirc for linux or must i use xchat
[20:53] <Hilikus> how do i remove a daemon from starting at startup in ubuntu server?
[20:53] <boss_mc> RandomUsr_: It's fine, but remember the program has to take certain arguments (start, stop, etc)
[20:53] <morrowyn> thanks
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  theres dozens  of irc cliejnts out there OTHER then that pathic mIRC
[20:53] <blakkheim> Casieo: try irssi
[20:53] <blakkheim> Hilikus: aptitude install sysv-rc-conf
[20:53] <LinuX2half> No, I'm not even burning the disc, the matter is the disk being recognized.
[20:53] <guntbert> morrowyn: there is fwbuilder, but for one machine its probably got a too steep learning curve
[20:53] <jrib> Hilikus: you may use sysv-rc-conf if the daemon uses sysvinit.  If it uses upstart then see !upstart docs
[20:53] <RandomUsr_> boss_mr, samba does, so no issue there.
[20:54] <Casieo> is irssi better then xchat
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  most people perfer 'xchat' over 'xchat-gnome' if thats what you are using. quassle (a kde client) also has some very good features for a gui client
[20:54] <blakkheim> Casieo: depends on who you ask. i think it is :)
[20:54] <Dextronaught> Casieo, they're really different
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  it all depends on your needs.
[20:54] <RandomUsr_> boss_mc, guess If I want to be more efficient, then I need to learn some bash scripting
[20:54] <maco> *quassel
[20:54] <Pingue> this live cd thing should i choose "Try ubuntu without any changes to your computer" ? :S
[20:54] <maco> (spelling)
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  find some check their docs.. try them out
[20:54] <maco> (also the client i'm using right now)
[20:54] <Dextronaught> Casieo, irssi is all in terminal, so there's no gui
[20:54] <maco> (also, it's a qt client, not a kde client)
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  i  use 'weechat 0.3.0' here
[20:55] <daftykins> Pingue: if you just want to try it out, yeah. you can install from there too.
[20:55] <guntbert> Pingue: yes, thats the "live environment"
[20:55] <morrowyn> running screen with irssi is nice :)
[20:55] <blakkheim> morrowyn: through ssh, too
[20:55] <Dextronaught> it is :)
[20:55] <mkaduk> Hi, is it possible to have functional Ubuntu without Pulseshitulseaudio ?
[20:55] <morrowyn> yeah over ssh :)
[20:55] <blakkheim> mkaduk: yes
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> weechat has some feastures ive not seen in any other clients. but its Text/no gui based
[20:55] <mkaduk> blakkheim, how?
[20:55] <morrowyn> i used to do that when i was still in college
[20:55] <blakkheim> mkaduk: uninstall it, use ALSA
[20:55] <mkaduk> blakkheim, after removing it I lose volume applet last time
[20:55] <petsounds> maco, what's the different? qt is kde.
[20:55] <morrowyn> and classes were boring
[20:56] <blakkheim> mkaduk: use something else for volume then, like alsamixer
[20:56] <erUSUL> !pm
[20:56] <Hilikus> jrib: how can i find if it uses upstart or sysvinit
[20:56] <LinuX2half> erUSUL: when I open brasero, and insert the disc then wait for a few seconds before I select to burn the image to a recordable disc. But when it comes to burning the image, it said its unable to detect any removable media.
[20:56] <Casieo> do you believe xchat is a good irc client?
[20:56] <maco> petsounds: quassel was originally made not to use any kde libraries, only the qt toolkit
[20:56] <morrowyn> xchat is good
[20:56] <mkaduk> blakkheim, I wish Ubuntu not to force not functional software into working distributions
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  look in /etc/init  if theres a script in there for it - its using Upstart
[20:56] <maco> petsounds: now it has compile-time options whether it uses kde libraries and kde widgets for certain things
[20:56] <morrowyn> when running a kde/gnome or whatever
[20:56] <mkaduk> blakkheim, when I google lots of ppl have this problem
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  I like xchat (NOT xchat-gnome)
[20:56] <blakkheim> mkaduk: i agree, but i don't use ubuntu so that doesn't concern me
[20:56] <maco> petsounds: kde is an extension of qt
[20:56] <jrib> Hilikus: assume it uses sysvinit and use sysv-rc-conf.  If it's not there, then it uses upstart
[20:56] <obiwan_> hi, please could anybody run gpg --gen-key ? i just want to see if you get the    (4) ElGamal (sign and encrypt) option , then you can cancel with ^C (ctrl+c)
[20:56] <dani> hello
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  it works well enough for most people and ir proberly the more common irc client used
[20:57] <maco> petsounds: in lucid, you will be able to choose between installing the kde version or the qt version, but in kamic, it's pure qt
[20:57] <obiwan_> hi dani
[20:57] <Casieo> how can i find out if i have xchat or xchat gnome
[20:57] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[20:57] <morrowyn> sudo apt-get install xchat ?
[20:57] <blakkheim> Casieo: dpkg --get-selections | grep xchat
[20:57] <Casieo> thats what i did
[20:57] <obiwan_> Casieo: dpkg -l xchat
[20:57] <morrowyn> you prolly have the regular one
[20:57] <Dextronaught> how do I know whether I'm using alsa-base, esound, jack, etc.
[20:57] <Casieo> sudo apt-get xchat
[20:57] <CAPcap> Does bluefish have a design view or just a code view?
[20:57] <mkaduk> blakkheim, then you dont know that normal gnome volume applet was removed in favor of stupid shity pulseaudio volume applet
[20:57] <Dextronaught> I do have to unistall each one and install the next, right?
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> xchat-gnome is still instqalled by default isent it? (everyone seems to hate xchat-gnome)
[20:57] <mkaduk> blakkheim, so they force you to use buggy software
[20:57] <Guest12039> im having trouble creating a wifi network on ubuntu. im using wicd
[20:58] <petsounds> maco, yeah i can't wait to try kubuntu LTS. i hope they fix the problem with plasma-desktop.
[20:58] <guntbert> obiwan_: here it is only 1 2 5
[20:58] <Casieo> blakkheim what will that do
[20:58] <blakkheim> mkaduk: sucks :(
[20:58] <maco> petsounds: which would that be?
[20:58] <EastDallas> Casieo: you could just type xchat in a terminal window...It won't launch if you don't have it.
[20:58] <mkaduk> I cant wait for next Ubuntu without Pulseaudio crap
[20:58] <mkaduk> ;/
[20:58] <blakkheim> Casieo: search your list of installed packages for "xchat" and return the result
[20:58] <VCoolio> obiwan_: as guntbert ^^ 1.4.9 on karmic
[20:58] <mkaduk> I hope they will remove it
[20:58] <mkaduk> as fast as possible
[20:58] <obiwan_> guntbert: that's what i get, at the gpg handbook http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN26 you read that you should get (4) option :(
[20:59] <CAPcap> Does bluefish have a design view or just a code view?
[20:59] <Dextronaught> any help?
[20:59] <obiwan_> yeah VCoolio but i need (4) ;( what can i do?
[20:59] <Casieo> what is the terminal command for search
[20:59] <guntbert> obiwan_: but (1) is DSA and Elgamal (default)
[20:59] <blakkheim> Casieo: aptitude search $string
[20:59] <Guest92143> sshfs takes a long long time and does nothing - any firewall setting to change?
[20:59] <petsounds> maco, plasma-desktop won't run on startup i always have to run it manually.
[20:59] <mimorsate> my s-video output on tv is very fade, almost black and white. i suppose i have to change output to pal from ntsc, but don't know how. how?
[20:59] <Dextronaught> how do I know whether I'm using alsa-base, esound, jack, etc.?
[20:59] <Dextronaught> I do have to unistall each one and install the next, right?
[20:59] <obiwan_> guntbert: yeah, but i want only one key to sign everything, not one to sign online docs and one for encrypting
[20:59] <blakkheim> Guest92143: does normal sftp take a long time too?
[21:00] <Guest92143> i did not test it blakkheim how to test it?
[21:00] <blakkheim> Guest92143: .. use sftp on the ssh server
[21:00] <Guest92143> it does nothing too blakkheim
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> mimorsate:  any time ive had ntsc instead of pal (or visa versa) it gave no picture not faded colors.  Only time ive seen faded/lacking colors is if the cable/pins/ports are bad.
[21:00] <abumaia> if I have an encrypted home directory, and I copy /home to another drive while I am logged in, will the copy still be encrypted?
[21:00] <mattmatteh_> is it possible to boot the livecd image from an existing filesystem using grub ?
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_: Grub2 CAN boot an iso file. Yes.
[21:01] <erUSUL> abumaia: do not think so
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_:  if the disrto supports the feature
[21:01] <blakkheim> Guest92143: sshfs is just a wrapper for sftp that uses fuse to mount the remote sftp directory as a local one, they're the same thing basically
[21:01] <guntbert> obiwan_: have you seen http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/02/beginners-guide-for-gnupg-in-ubuntu.html ?
[21:01] <peturrR> Hello, i'm having problems with pptp vpn. I can only connect to the vpn server when i'm connected to the internet via wireless network, but not when using an ethernet cable.
[21:01] <peturrR> I don't see the diffrence...
[21:02] <bastid_raZor> is there an alternative to SilverLight?
[21:02] <maco> petsounds: uh thats odd. i dont have that problem
[21:02] <Dextronaught> how do I know whether I'm using alsa-base, esound, jack, etc.?
[21:02] <Dextronaught> I do have to unistall each one and install the next, right?
[21:02] <guntbert> abumaia: no, you copy the decrypted files
[21:02] <peturrR> maco: you ment that for me?
[21:02] <daftykins> bastid_raZor: it's called moonlight, the open source ver for Linux afaik
[21:02] <CAPcap> Does bluefish have a design view or just a code view?
[21:02] <abumaia> I'm looking to reinstall to be rid of the encryption, it caused some things to stop working for me.  I'm hopeful that I can copy the /home folder into the new install and have them available
[21:02] <mkaduk> Is there an alternative for Ubuntu for volume control applet ?
[21:02] <Guest92143> blakkheim, nothing works
[21:02] <maco> peturrR: no
[21:02] <mattmatteh_> Dr_Willis, i have grub 1.97 in stalled, and i have supergrub cd, but not sure which version
[21:02] <mkaduk> not the one provided by PA
[21:02] <Casieo> blakkheim i   xchat                                                  - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[21:02] <Casieo> i A xchat-common                                           - Common files for X-Chat
[21:02] <Casieo> p   xchat-gnome                                            - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[21:02] <Casieo> p   xchat-gnome-common                                     - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[21:02] <Casieo> p   xchat-guile                                            - Guile scripting plugin for XChat
[21:02] <FloodBot2> Casieo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <mimorsate> Dr_Willis: cable is brand new. to be sure, is there a way to check how is the output set at the moment?
[21:02] <Casieo> p   xchat-otr                                              - Off-the-Record Messaging Plugin for X-Chat
[21:03] <obiwan_> guntbert: nope, i'll take a look, maybe it explains how to make a single dsa 4096 key, cause the gpg implementation at karmic won't let me do it :(
[21:03] <bastid_raZor> daftykins: thanks, i'll see how well it works with this site.
[21:03] <Dextronaught> :O
[21:03] <Guest12039> what is the best wireless manager for ubuntu?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_:  the old grub can NOT boot iso files. Only the new grub2  whatever one is the default on 9.10 can.  I think the version you see at boot is 1.97 beta 4 or somthing like that
[21:03] <jacob3> What tools can be used to extract information from iptables logs and make pretty output? I would like the following displayed in a GUI or webbrowser: A list of unique source and destination ip addresses of all logged packets. The amount of upstream and downstream info(in bytes) sent to each ipaddress. A whois lookup of all ipaddresses that show up in logs.
[21:03] <mkaduk> Guest12039, gnome-network-manager
[21:03] <blakkheim> Guest12039: i like the ncurses version of wicd personally
[21:03] <mkaduk> Guest12039, or network-manager
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Guest12039:  network manager works for me.. wicd has also worked.
[21:03] <Casieo> so does that mean i have gnome xchat
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> !info logwatch | jacob3
[21:04] <obiwan_> networkmanager works good Guest12039, it's a front end for some apps like wireless tools, dhpc, and wpa_supplicant
[21:04] <nysosym> hi there, which module controlls the gyro/motion/accelerometer on a macbook?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> jacob3:  that tool might do it.. might not..  its a handy tool to learn about in any case
[21:04] <mattmatteh_> Dr_Willis, thanks, ill read up and try it
[21:04] <Casieo> blakkheim so does that mean i have xchat gnome
[21:04] <Guest12039> kewl thanks
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_:  i got some links at http://delicious/dr_willis in my tagged sites on grub2 you may want to check out
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  unless you installed 'xchat'  then yes... you have xchat-gnome
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> !info xchat-gnome
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> !info xchat
[21:05] <Casieo> blakkheim i did the command sudo apt-get xchat
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> Casieo:  do 'sudo apt-get install xchat' to install xchat.
[21:06] <mattmatteh_> Dr_Willis, search grub on that ?
[21:06] <Casieo> dr_willis ok i will
[21:06] <Guest92143> blakkheim, what could i do?
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_:  yea i got a grub2 tag i think
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> mattmatteh_:  along with my 100+ other linux tags :)
[21:06] <abumaia> is there an option during install to put /home in its own partition?
[21:07] <Casieo> dr_willis i have the newest version so i must have xchat
[21:07] <nysosym> hi there, which module controlls the gyro/motion/accelerometer on a macbook?
[21:07] <erUSUL> abumaia: in advanced paritioning you can lay out paritions as you see fit
[21:07] <mattmatteh_> Dr_Willis, ok.. ill look later, about to step away
[21:07] <mattmatteh_> thanks
[21:07] <abumaia> how much space does the os need without /home?
[21:07] <nate__> hey guys i just did a fresh install of 9.10 and now im getting a grub error 15 message...ive looked on google and everything says to boot off live  cd and open a terminal and type in sudo grub...but mine is saying command not found???
[21:07] <nate__> can anybody help?
[21:07] <Alesha> Hello guys, can you advice me irc client for ubuntu?
[21:08] <blakkheim> Alesha: irssi
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  ive used less then 5gb.. anything smaller may be a bit tight.
[21:08] <guntbert> !irc | Alesha
[21:08] <Z3rR> this one
[21:08] <morrowyn> nate__ try grub instead, you might be root already
[21:08] <abumaia> Dr_Willis:  would that interfere with updates?
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  you can proberly get by with less.. but the cache and other dirs can start filling up the space
[21:08] <Alesha> lets see
[21:08] <bastid_raZor> daftykins: sadly this site stills wants a silverlight install :\
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  that will be the issue..  apt likes to cache stuff
[21:08] <Spreadsheet_> I autoscroll in ff on reddit. It becomes grey and freezes temporarily.
[21:08] <nate__> :) yeah that worked and now its saying grub is not installed..lol
[21:08] <Spreadsheet_> Has this happened to anyone else?
[21:09] <Spreadsheet_> Autoscrolling has always caused problems for me
[21:09] <abumaia> well, I have a 150gb drive, so I think I'll have room ^_^
[21:09] <Spreadsheet_> Also, empathy doesn't let me Ctrl-C copy
[21:09] <Casieo> thx for your help everyone
[21:09] <morrowyn> that explains your error nate__
[21:09] <Z3rR> hello i have an question where can i find good themes for ubuntu? i've just started..
[21:09] <daftykins> bastid_raZor: what one is it? are you sure there's no alternative? i do hate that stupid plugin.
[21:10] <jenkinbr> what's up with F9 dimming the screen? How do I disable this?
[21:10] <guntbert> !themes | Z3rR
[21:10] <LinuX2half> now I k3b can't detect my Blank DVD
[21:10] <erUSUL> abumaia: i have 15 GiB /root and that is plenty
[21:10] <Z3rR> tanx:D
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> jenkinbr:  thats to show the widgits - its a feature of compiz that emulates a feature on teh mac
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | jenkinbr
[21:10] <Hans_Henrik> can a WPA-pass contain any byte? (like from 0x00 to 0xFF?)
[21:10] <jenkinbr> Dr_Willis, aw, so I need to get rid of it in compiz-config settings manager
[21:10] <bastid_raZor> daftykins: ncaa.com i'm trying to listen to a game. moonlight installed correctly and is listed in about:plugins
[21:11] <abumaia> so during install, I use advanced partitioning, it will let me specify that /home goes in a specific partition?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> jenkinbr:  its the 'widgit-layer' setting
[21:11] <morrowyn> nate__ try googling on installing grub from your live-cd or something
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> jenkinbr:  in ccsm
[21:11] <jenkinbr> poof, gone
[21:11] <morrowyn> can't help you with that i'm afraid, never done that myself
[21:11] <jenkinbr> thanks
[21:11] <EntityReborn> !compiz
[21:11] <erUSUL> abumaia: yes you create the paritions. then you specify the mount point "/" for root "/home" for home
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> jenkinbr:  but widgits are soooo imporntant! apple even added a special button to their new mice just to show them! :P
[21:12] <jenkinbr> :P
[21:12] <daftykins> bastid_raZor: sorry no idea then.
[21:12] <LinuX2half> Why my computer can't detect the blank DVD
[21:12] <bastid_raZor> daftykins: yeah, thanks for the effort.
[21:12] <abumaia> thanks ^_^
[21:12] <erUSUL> abumaia: some people put boot in its own partition.. on server is good to have /var separated as well etc...
[21:12] <GSF1200S> what flash is included with ubuntu 9.10 64 bit?
[21:12] <LinuX2half> Yes, its blank but it suppose to have an reaction that a DISC is inserted
[21:13] <jenkinbr> Dr_Willis, If I want widgets, I'll remap them, but for now I don't use them, so I disabled that plugin :)
[21:13] <abumaia> I'm still pretty new to all this, don't want to get too fancy just yet ^_^
[21:13] <daftykins> GSF1200S: none as default. you can install gnash, swfdec or adobe's own - which i believe is still alpha/beta
[21:13] <GSF1200S> it seems like its still using a wrapper and its unstable as hell.. Arch Linux used the alpha which worked great
[21:14] <joab> Two of my external usb drives are mounted as root while the rest are mounted as my user. How can I make them mount as my user? I'm not doing anything different that I know of.
[21:14] <GSF1200S> daftykins: i installed ubuntu restricted extras.. what does that put in?
[21:14] <zagabar> Anyone here who has gotten wallpaper-tray to work in 9.10+
[21:14] <zagabar> ?
[21:14] <daftykins> GSF1200S: not sure off hand. may've installed gnash or the nasty iced tea plugin. check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[21:14] <mladen_bg88> hi, i just installed ubuntu.. but i didn't install loader, so now i can't see ubuntu in my win7 loader?
[21:14] <daftykins> !grub2 | mladen_bg88
[21:14] <jacob3> Dr_Willis: I looked into logwatch, and it looks quite useful. Thanks.
[21:15] <mimorsate> how to check if the output is pal or ntsc on s-video in Karmic?
[21:15] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth icon is greyed out, the preferences say "bluetooth disabled," and clicking "turn on bluetooth" doesn't do anything
[21:15] <daftykins> mimorsate: it's probably in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file if you just booted an ubuntu computer plugged into a TV
[21:15] <neXyon> mkaduk: pulse discussion running here? xD
[21:16] <daftykins> !ask | neXyon
[21:16] <mkaduk> neXyon, yes remove it from Ubuntu
[21:16] <mkaduk> neXyon, its a must
[21:17] <duffer> Hi guys, I am trying to install skyliveng from packages.medianix.net. i have added the repositories, but how do i import the keyfile? I do gpg --search devel@unixmedia.it and a key is found, but thats it, what should i do next. Running Karmic Koala
[21:17] <mladen_bg88> i installed karmic, but i didn't install loader, so now i can't see ubuntu in my win7 loader?
[21:17] <neXyon> mkaduk: well, I'm +1 for that, but I'm only a developer from an application that gets loads of bug reports concerning pulse problems :-(
[21:17] <Wilthril> hi all
[21:17] <Streetveiter> #Verdun
[21:18] <abumaia> mladen: I'm not sure, but I think you needed to install GRUB, which would load both ubuntu and win7
[21:18] <Wilthril> i have a very big issue with an external hard drive formatted in ext3
[21:18] <EntityReborn> eh
[21:18] <Wilthril> this morning I had this in my syslog http://pastebin.com/d2572c2a6 so I did a filesystem check with GParted, then I got multiple corrupted files in lost+found, so I tried to run e2fsck then I got http://pastebin.com/d2572c2a6
[21:18] <EntityReborn> my gnome panels just disappeared
[21:18] <Wilthril> is there a way to recover my data? thanks :)
[21:19] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth preferences say "bluetooth disabled," and clicking "turn on bluetooth" doesn't do anything?
[21:19] <ionel> hello
[21:19] <guntbert> !resetpanel | EntityReborn
[21:19] <mladen_bg88> abumaia: well.. is there any other way, to load it via win7 loader?
[21:19] <Izinucs> Wilthril: could be a bad partition table.. I don't know how to fix it though
[21:19] <nate__> i installed it but now when i do "find /boot/grub/stage1 it says file not found.
[21:19] <Wilthril> Izinucs: it was working perfectly fine for almost a year
[21:19] <abumaia> mladen: I don't know, I'm still new to this myself.
[21:20] <Wilthril> kinda weird it becomes completely corrupt in a night...
[21:20] <Izinucs> Wilthril: I had that happen to one of my drives.. there is a tool in the repos that helped me recover it.. but I can't remember the name of it.
[21:21] <Wilthril> Izinucs: someone told me to install testdisk... I'm trying it :)
[21:21] <Izinucs> Wilthril: that might be it
[21:21] <macer_> net
[21:21] <mladen_bg88> please someone, i really can't find a way to boot karmic, can't i simply add it to win7 loader?
[21:21] <zagabar> What would you suggest to use as a random wallpaper changer in gnome ubuntu 9.10 ?
[21:21] <slon_> \join #empathy
[21:21] <duffer> Wilthril: if its a sector error you could run seatools or other HD manufacturers utility http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools
[21:22] <Izinucs> mladen_bg88: so you installed but didn't install grub? is that right?
[21:22] <Wilthril> ok it's a hitachi hard drive...
[21:22] <mladen_bg88> yes, i unchecked option install loader i thought it would be available in win loade
[21:23] <Izinucs> mladen_bg88: you thought wrong.. there was no way for the windows boot loader to know that ubuntu had been installed.. you have to manually do it. ##windows might help with that.. however with the live cd you can install grub and be done with it.
[21:23] <MikeChelen> my bluetooth preferences say "bluetooth disabled," but clicking "turn on bluetooth" doesn't do anything. maybe the usb bluetooth is not compatible with linux?
[21:24] <duffer> wilthril: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
[21:24] <mladen_bg88> izinucs so.. i have live cd(karmic live on usb) so how to install grub ?
[21:24] <Izinucs> !grub2 | mladen_bg88
[21:24] <mladen_bg88> ok, i will thank you very much
[21:25] <mkanyicy> i cannot connect to mysql, i get this error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[21:25] <Wilthril> duffer: thanks a lot, but so far i'll stick with general unix programs
[21:25] <francesco_> k
[21:25] <Wilthril> i still hope e2fsck didn't corrupt anything...
[21:25] <Izinucs> mladen_bg88: if that link doesn't help then if you don't have any data yet in ubuntu simply go through the install process again and let it do it's thing when it comes to the boot loader.. grub will recognize windows and provide an option in the menu for booting between the two.
[21:25] <EntityReborn> ok
[21:26] <duffer> wilthril: no bother
[21:26] <EntityReborn> am having a problem with the compiz settings
[21:26] <EntityReborn> montel_, weren't you klined?
[21:26] <mkanyicy> i cannot connect to mysql, i get this error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[21:26] <montel_> EntityReborn: yup. I was un-klined also
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[21:27] <EntityReborn> anyway, mousing over my virtual desktop icons in my bottom panel shows all four are being treated as "workspace 1"
[21:28] <EntityReborn> this is while desktop effects are enabled
[21:28] <EntityReborn> is there any fix to this?
[21:28] <Izinucs> EntityReborn: can you change desktops?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> EntityReborn:  mine as also all named workspace1 -  but they work
[21:28] <EntityReborn> basicaly, this results in not being able to drag windows from one workspace to another
[21:28] <EntityReborn> Izinucs, yes, I can
[21:28] <jMyles> I want to have the same users / groups across several computers in a network - what is this called?
[21:28] <EntityReborn> Dr_Willis, works, but no dragndrop
[21:29] <Izinucs> EntityReborn: then not to worry.. ccsm controls the number of desktops
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> EntityReborn:  if you mean dragging windows to the sides and going to the next desktkp- theres a different ccsm seting just for that
[21:29] <del_diablo> What is the source of the ralink 2860 drivers? Where can I download them?
[21:29] <EntityReborn> Izinucs, correct, but I do appreciate dragndrop from the taskbar to those icons
[21:29] <Izinucs> EntityReborn: and that doesn't work?
[21:29] <EntityReborn> not while effects are enabled
[21:30] <EntityReborn> if i disable effects, it works no problem
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> EntityReborn:  i dont recall ever seeing that work.. never even tried it. :)  must be a featurte metacity has that compiz dosent
[21:30] <EntityReborn> Dr_Willis, ok.
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> EntityReborn:   Yep. Metacity has the feature. compiz dont.
[21:30] <Izinucs> EntityReborn: might be a setting in ccsm you could turn on.. might ask in #ubuntu-effects which takes you to #compiz I think
[21:31] <EntityReborn> Anyway, it's a nice feature, and I had thought it was a bug
[21:31] <EntityReborn> Izinucs, will do
[21:31] <EntityReborn> thanks guys
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> I find that with my 2 wide screen monitors.. I dont use Multi-desktops near as much
[21:33] <MrKeuner> hello, I see in top that gnome-do application is in S mode. But the key combination to invoke gnome-do does not seem to work, what does that mean. Well in those cases I just kill the process and restart a new instance but can something else be done? What is really happening there?
[21:33] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: I find with a 23" monitor it's pretty much the same :)
[21:33] <EntityReborn> Dr_Willis, well, I use a laptop, so more monitors aren't a possibility
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  been meaning to upgrade. got a 21 and a 19 now.. :) want to get 2 that are the same size at least.
[21:33] <EntityReborn> also, I run a 15.4" widescreen :P
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> Too bad my card cant do dual monitors AND the tv out at the same time
[21:34]  * Dr_Willis invents lcd monitors that snap together like Legos.
[21:34] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: prices have been pretty incredable lately.. I got emailed an add from staples for a 22" @ $99  .. don't know if they had any in stock though.. I had just bought my 23"
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  yep. been watching for sales also. but its hard to justify just replaceing  one at this time
[21:35] <daftykins> Izinucs: those super cheap ones are often VGA only. i draw the line at that ^_^
[21:35] <mattgyver> Is there a way to configure my keyboards media player buttons to do actions in vlc, like play next track and stuff?
[21:35] <EntityReborn> If either of you guys don't need one, I'll take it :P
[21:35] <GSF1200S> any idea why cron.hourly isnt running hourly? I have a simple script set to backup using rsync and it runs fine when I invoke it.. But, it never runs when its placed in /etc/cron.hourly
[21:35] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: one of the problems with big monitors is the speed of the mouse.. you have to increase it so you don't wear out your arm/thumb etc..
[21:36] <furicle> \furicle wonders what the resolution of a Lego monitor would be -
[21:36] <EntityReborn> Izinucs, lol
[21:36] <furicle> @GSF1200S what's /etc/crontab say?
[21:37]  * Izinucs goes outside to replace break pads
[21:37] <GSF1200S> furicle: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d29dd47ac
[21:37] <EntityReborn> Thanks guys
[21:38] <EntityReborn> I had come in here earlier with this problem, and didn't get this far.
[21:38] <jMyles> I have a LAN, and I want to have the same users / groups across several ubuntu machines, one of which is running server - how can I do this?
[21:39] <lasivian> my GF wants a Tetris clone for Gnome that she can play with a gamepad, any chance of that? I have a working gamepad on the system, but I don;t know how to make it work in Gnome
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> lasivian:  you could always use mame and the actual arcade tetris roms. it can do gwme pads.. not sure about other tetris games/
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> lasivian:  i seem to recall some keypad program that could map any keys to gamepads also. so most any game coukld work with that
[21:40] <RxDx> how can i run codeblocks with sudo privileges?
[21:40] <RxDx> sudo codeblocks isnt working
[21:40] <michaeldouglas30> Lasivian - Try searching for SNES in your package manager
[21:40] <lasivian> thanks
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> !gksudo | RxDx
[21:41] <GSF1200S> furicle: the script works perfect as it should, and running "sudo sh rsync.sh" starts the script and it prints out relevant info. However, it doesnt run at all in cron
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> lasivian:  zsnes or the other snes emulators are good also for classic gaming
[21:41] <GSF1200S> same script worked fine in Arch.. Ubuntu is frustrating me...
[21:41] <RxDx> thanks Dr_Willis
[21:41] <gui7> if i had a session in putty executing (quite a lengthy) command and my router at home disconnected, would the remote server keep executing it?
[21:41] <furicle> @GSF1200S That looks ok at a glance,  Is anacron installed? (aptitude show anacron or which anacron)
[21:41] <jellow> how can i see all ips on my network , I have two routers each claiming 192.168.1.1 ?
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  such events are the reason programs like 'screen' are sooo handy. I woudl guess No it wouldent keep executing it
[21:42] <michaeldouglas30> Jellow - you will need to change one of your routers to 192.168.0.1
[21:42] <gui7> Dr_Willis, crap then i just wasted 200gb of bw :(
[21:42] <GSF1200S> furicle: anacron is indeed installed- I guess I could use that instead.. I dont use cron for anything else (ive never heard of anacron before)
[21:42] <gui7> Dr_Willis, i guess ill have to start it all over using screen -- ive gotta learn screen
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> gui7: It may depend on what it was doing..
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  theres also that byubo screen tweaked variant in the repos. its handy
[21:43] <gui7> Dr_Willis, tar and then piping that into netcat
[21:43] <furicle> If anacron is installed then it is responsible for running it - that's why the OR test in the crontab
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  would you trust the data now that it has a possibility of being bad.. is the question
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  backing up a filesystem or somtning?
[21:44] <gui7> Dr_Willis, nah i wouldnt trust it now. backing up /home lol
[21:44] <GSF1200S> furicle: hmmm.. well, I dont want to waste your time- Ill try searching for info on it and see what I come up with.. thank you
[21:44] <furicle> I've had cases of anacron hanging on other jobs and not getting to mine.  Is it hung now? (see it in ps auxwww?)
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  you might want to look into  fsarchiver, or 'unison'
[21:45] <jellow> michaeldouglas30: Ok will do thanks
[21:45] <furicle> To rule an anacron issue out, just stick it directly in /etc/crontab without the call to anacron first and see if that's the issue
[21:45] <Jowi> hi all
[21:45] <gui7> Dr_Willis, im fine with what i ahve
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  whatever then.. with other tools.. you wouldent have to redo everytjhing  at least.. just whats changed.. good luck
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  byobu is the tweaked screen tool also.. try it out
[21:46] <GSF1200S> furicle: anacron isnt listed through ps.. stick the line from the script in crontab? when does it run?
[21:47] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i move a bunch of .jpg's from 1 folder to another?
[21:47] <gui7> Dr_Willis, i seriously cant understand how to switch windows/screen from the man page
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  mv *.jpg  /path/to/otherplace
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  ctrl-a then 'n' for next screen - after you make one with 'ctrl-a n'
[21:48] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis,
[21:48] <livingdaylight> thx
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  that buybo variant has those commands maped to F2 F3 and F4
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  you use ctrl-a SOMTHING for almost every 'screen' command
[21:49] <Hilikus> how do i load a file with bash variables and their values so that a script can use those values?
[21:49] <RxDx> please, when I run a program in codeblocks it denies permission, why?
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  you 'source' the file
[21:49] <guntbert> Dr_Willis: make a new one is actually ctrl-a c
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  'source whateverconfig.cfg'  or '. whateverconfig.cfg'
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> guntbert:  yea. :) logical :)
[21:49] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: and the .cfg should be of the form of a regular variable set?     var1=value    ?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  thats how its done in most cases ive seen
[21:50] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[21:50] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, seems using gui cut 'n paste is a lot quicker. Is command line overrated?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:   what if you wanted to move ONLY ones that began with A, or Ab  or xomthing..
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  i find GUI's are overrated
[21:50] <Ponti> hello all
[21:50] <furicle> man 5 crontab will give you that info - and look at the crontab you already have to see how it works. Basically it's minute, hour, day of month, month, day of week, user to run as, command to run.  Make sense?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  or only ones you made on a set day a week ago...
[21:50] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, lol touche
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  or use 'mc' in the terminal if you want.
[21:51] <furicle> An * means all of them,
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> !info mc | livingdaylight
[21:51] <Ponti> i've got a problem with grub2, canb anyone help me please
[21:52] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: do i need the shebang in the config file?
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  youa re 'sourceing' the config so no..  you are Not executing it..
[21:52] <furicle> @GSF1200S Just to be clear - stick the call to the script in crontab itself - e.g. 7 7 * * * root /usr/local/bin/myAwesomeScript will run the script at 7:07 am every day as root
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  your script is reading and running the commands.
[21:52] <Hilikus> makes sense
[21:53] <GSF1200S> furicle: ok, ill try that
[21:54] <gui7> what would i use to create a new screen?
[21:54] <guntbert> gui7: ctrl-a c
[21:54] <gui7> where c is the command i want to execute?
[21:54] <discoteka> How do you open/read/decode a smime.p7m file? ? I converted it from a winmail.dat file and now I am stuck!
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  the c key or n key or somthing like that
[21:55] <gui7> guntbert, i mean what do i type in the terminal?
[21:55] <guntbert> gui7: no, its the letter c
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> Hit Ctrl-a   THEN hit the c key. :)
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> emacs uses a similer type method I recall.
[21:55] <MadGhost> Hi all
[21:56] <gui7> Dr_Willis, guntbert, don't i have to execute screen or something first?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  well of course you have to RUN 'screen' first
[21:56] <MadGhost> Anybody can help me with my NetBook Acer aspire One and WiFi ???? Ubuntu 8.10
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gui7:  you can set up screen to be your default shell also some how.
[21:57] <zagabar> Odd, my terminal got transparent in the wrong way. It is supposed to be transparent and show the desktop image right? It shows the windows behind it for me. :/
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> MadGhost:  wireless works for me on my AAO. i did have some odd issue where if you use the switch and turn it off.. it dont want to come back on. Had to reboot.
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> zagabar:  thats 'true' transparancey  vs 'fake' (where it just shoes the wallpaper image)
[21:58] <MadGhost> on command iwlist scan. Ubuntu ask me: wlan1 Interface doesn't support scanning: network is down
[21:58] <zagabar> Dr_Willis: But I didn't change that setting afaik. :S Where can I set it to false?
[21:58] <MadGhost> What is it?
[21:58] <furicle> @MadGhost works on this AAo right here ok in 9.04 and 9.10 - IIRC in 8.04 I installed backports to make the light work,
[21:58] <GSF1200S> furicle: 15 57 * * * root /etc/cron.hourly/rsync.sh is what I put in crontab- it didnt work
[21:58] <jiohdi> I am getting dependancies not met, you might want to run apt-get -f install...  when I do it says errors returned... how to get it out of this loop?
[21:58] <GSF1200S> i did 15 57 to be 3:57pm
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> zagabar:  compiz has a feature to make any window partitally transparent. or tjhe termial may have the settigns in its configs
[21:59] <darthanubis> amazing, I got pulseaduio running with oss4!
[21:59] <rascal999> can't browse web on vpn. Usually can and can ping vpn server ip. Have set up ip tables to masquerade on server. Any ideas?
[21:59] <MadGhost> furicle> that is you recommending for me do upgrade to 9.x ?
[21:59] <furicle> wait a minute - did you you say you ran it sudo sh rsync.sh ?  e.g. sudo rsync.sh doesn't work either?
[21:59] <Frederickrabbit> my six year old is using Ubuntu
[21:59] <meganerd> GSF1200S: did you make the script executable and did you put it in the crontab for a user that has permission to do what the script does?
[22:00] <mimorsate> i would like to see if the type of tv output is pal or ntsc. i plugged the cable, rebooted, found the xorg.0.log. what should i look for in it?
[22:00] <MadGhost> Just how I can UP my WiFi device?
[22:00] <MadGhost> because it's down now :(
[22:00] <furicle> @MadGhost - that's up to you - just saying 9.10 for me has been the best for my Aspire One
[22:00] <meganerd> MadGhost: sudo ip link set wlan0 up
[22:00] <meganerd> assuming wlan0 is your wifi device
[22:01] <meganerd> 9.10 works well on all of my laptops/netbooks
[22:01] <zagabar> Dr_Willis: That solved it, thanks
[22:01] <gui7> Dr_Willis, i ran screen, then i typed in my comamnds, then i exited my putty session, now i've reconnected and its not doign anything
[22:01] <GSF1200S> I made the script executable, and the user is root as it is located in a root directory (/etc).. let me redo this.. I feel I might be an ass
[22:01] <meganerd> Thinkpad x41, Latitude e6400, and Aspire One
[22:01] <Frederickrabbit> Works awesome on me Eee 900HA
[22:02] <meganerd> GSF1200S: the location does not matter
[22:02] <meganerd> GSF1200S: sudo crontab -e
[22:03] <furicle> @meganerd I had him working in /etc/crontab - better not confuse him with roots crontab file - diff syntax
[22:03] <LogicFan> hi, can someone tell me where brasero stores its temp image when making 1:1 copies?
[22:03] <GSF1200S> I typed that in and it lead me to nano inside some temp crontab file..
[22:04] <guntbert> GSF1200S: that is the crontab for the user you are working as
[22:04] <furicle> @GSF1200S each user has a crontab file - you can edit those with crontab -e - thus sudo crontab -e lets you edit roots personal crontab file.  That's not the system crontab in /etc/crontab    You could use it too, but don't confuse the two.
[22:05] <GSF1200S> ok.. thanks
[22:09] <mimorsate> i would like to see if the type of tv output is pal or ntsc. i plugged the cable, rebooted, found the xorg.0.log. what should i look for in it?
[22:10] <e66> when I connect using wvdial, it overwrites my /etc/resolv.conf. How to preserve it. I want to use google dns.
[22:11] <cowbud> when I share a folder with samba via nautilus where is that information entered? Where can I view all shares i have"/
[22:12] <phong_> what is the point of ubuntu ?
[22:12] <phong_> i install it and use..but dont know what to do with it
[22:13] <meganerd> phong_: is that a serious question or flame bait?
[22:13] <phong_> both
[22:13] <meganerd> hah
[22:13] <phong_> ;)
[22:14] <meganerd> I didn't realize that there had to be a point
[22:14] <phong_> i'm a windows person, now that i got ubuntu, i dont knwo what i can do in ubuntu
[22:14] <meganerd> best bet is to ask Mark Shittleworth
[22:14] <meganerd> I was a Linux user long before Ubuntu and I would continue to be after it is gone
[22:15] <phong_> there is like 10 zillian softwares for windows and rarely anything for linux, what am i going to do
[22:15] <guntbert> phong_: the same things you can do in any OS - except hunting viruses maybe
[22:15] <meganerd> I think we all have our own perspective
[22:15] <Indy^> I was a TRS-80 user that converted ;)
[22:15] <chuckf> phong_: what do you want to do in Ubuntu?
[22:15] <MikeChelen> phong_: there is tons of linux software, check applications -> ubuntu software center to get started :)
[22:15] <meganerd> phong_: I have the exact opposite problem.  I can't find a lot of good software for windows or mac
[22:16] <kodez> phong_: What did you use windows for ?
[22:16] <LogicFan> can anyone recommend a more powerful disk usage analyzer than the one that is included by default?
[22:16] <meganerd> fililight
[22:16] <phong_> convert movies
[22:16] <phong_> play games
[22:16] <meganerd> erm filelight
[22:16] <MikeChelen> LogicFan: what other features do you want?
[22:16] <phong_> and more
[22:16] <kodez> phong_: Same here
[22:16] <phong_> i dont see many games for linux
[22:17] <meganerd> http://supergamer.org/get.htm
[22:17] <phong_> most 3d games are for windows
[22:17] <MikeChelen> phong_: try arista transcoder or winff to do media conversion
[22:17] <meganerd> http://live.linux-gamers.net
[22:17] <LogicFan> MikeChelen,i'd really like to sort by app/file size
[22:17] <LogicFan> instead of just being able to look at directories
[22:17] <phong_> Mike: luckily i have vmware 7 for lunux
[22:17] <phong_> haha
[22:17] <LogicFan> there was a great one i used to use on windows for the life of my i cannot think of now
[22:18] <meganerd> phong_: I have played a number of games on both platforms, having said that, a game *made* for Windows will probably tend to work better on windows
[22:18] <phong_> mike or maybe i should have dual boots
[22:18] <phong_> 1 is windows and 1 is linux
[22:18] <MikeChelen> phong_: openarena, sauerbrauten, and tremulous are great FPS, try http://playdeb.net to find more
[22:18] <furicle> @cowbud /var/lib/samba I think -  see http://gentoo.ovibes.net/nautilus-share/
[22:18] <meganerd> phong_: if all you do is play games buy an xbox, PS3, or wii
[22:18] <MikeChelen> LogicFan: you want to look at individual files instead of directories?
[22:18] <meganerd> all three together is still cheaper than a decent Windows gaming computer
[22:18] <phong_> meganerd: i dont buy games
[22:19] <phong_> i downloaded
[22:19] <meganerd> well, I do not support piracy
[22:19] <MikeChelen> meganerd: there are alot of great linux games too
[22:19] <guntbert> !piracy | phong_
[22:19] <phong_> games cost alot!!1
[22:19] <meganerd> so I will not be of help there
[22:19] <phong_> oh
[22:19] <phong_> i'm sorry then
[22:19] <phong_> haha
[22:19] <sontek> How do I downgrade a package to an older version
[22:19]  * kodez thinks Ubuntu is a friendly linux distro 
[22:19] <sontek> I added a 3rd party repo that upgraded banshee, but i'd like to go back to the distro version
[22:19] <LogicFan> MikeChelen, for example, it would be cool to see the largest files on down to the smallest, at a glance, across the entire file system.  instead of having to sort through directories first
[22:19] <MikeChelen> phong_: many windows games will run in wine, use playonlinux to help install
[22:19] <meganerd> MikeChelen: there are great linux games, I just do not do a lot of gaming
[22:19] <LogicFan> MikeChelen, if that makes sense
[22:20] <phong_> where can i install playonlinux?
[22:20] <phong_> what is it
[22:20] <MikeChelen> sontek: try removing the custom repo, then do apt-get dist upgrade
[22:20] <meganerd> MikeChelen: and the games I do play, I usually want to play with friends, none of whom are Linux users
[22:20] <MikeChelen> phong_: it helps install windows games on linux, it's available through the software center
[22:20] <phong_> ok brb 'll go to do add
[22:20] <phong_> brb
[22:20] <mimorsate> how to check if the tv output is set on ntsc or pal?
[22:21] <MikeChelen> LogicFan: see what you mean, unsure what supports that, might try fslint
[22:21] <meganerd> xrandr -q
[22:21] <phong_> mike: it called "front end for wine"
[22:21] <phong_> is that the right one?
[22:21] <meganerd> mimorsate: xrandr -q
[22:21] <LogicFan> MikeChelen, here's what i use on windows: http://www.freshney.org/xinorbis/index.htm & http://windirstat.info/
[22:22] <phong_> if i install that, will it effect my currently installed wine 1.1.36 ?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> playonlinux - front-end for Wine
[22:22] <MikeChelen> phong_: yep that's it, wine is what runs underneath
[22:22] <kodez> I think I should install ubuntu for my sister. I use other distro myself.
[22:22] <meganerd> mimorsate: the "Display" control unser System -> Preferences may tell you as well
[22:22] <LogicFan> the one that is included with ubuntu gets the job done, but i was just wanting something a bit more powerful
[22:22] <phong_> mike: i already have wine 1.1.36 installed
[22:22] <guntbert> MikeChelen: did you try "graphical disk map" ?
[22:22] <phong_> if i choose to install playonlinux will it matter?
[22:22] <MikeChelen> phong_: installing playonlinux shouldn't effect the current wine version
[22:22] <meganerd> MikeChelen: I am a big fan of filelight
[22:23] <phong_> ok
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> phong_: its just a front end TO wine. I doubt  if it will affect it
[22:23] <phong_> brb
[22:23] <phong_> ok, how do i use it after installed?
[22:23] <MikeChelen> guntbert, meganerd: can either graphical disk map or filelight show a flat, sorted listing of all files on the system?
[22:23] <mimorsate> meganerd: xrandr -q only showed resolution, display preferences also
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> phong_:  run its icon...
[22:24] <phong_> Dr: how would i use playonlinux
[22:24] <MikeChelen> phong_: applications -> games -> playonlinux
[22:24] <phong_> oh okay
[22:24] <phong_> brb
[22:24] <meganerd> MikeChelen: for that I use an alias
[22:24] <MikeChelen> phong_: you will also need the install files for whatever you want to run, playonlinux just makes the process easier
[22:24] <phong_> hey, why my screen move nicely
[22:24] <phong_> more then 3d effect
[22:24] <meganerd> MikeChelen: alias dus="du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 . | sort -g"
[22:24] <guntbert> MikeChelen: I don't think/know but why don't you try?
[22:24] <phong_> is that ubuntu included ?
[22:24] <phong_> nice interface
[22:25] <MikeChelen> phong_: yep that is called desktop effects or compiz
[22:25] <phong_> when i move the windows screen around...it stress the windows...loooks nice
[22:25] <Cyberthunder> MikeChelen, i think normal wine is more easy then play on linux
[22:25] <phong_> i think windows should make that too hahaha
[22:25]  * Dr_Willis hates wobbly windows
[22:25] <phong_> brb
[22:25] <MikeChelen> LogicFan: try that command meganerd posted?
[22:25] <phong_> compiz can haev problem with vnc viewer
[22:25] <phong_> haha
[22:26] <phong_> ok i have the playonlinux screen
[22:26] <phong_> what then?
[22:26] <MikeChelen> Cyberthunder: it depends what software, for example office is difficult to get running with wine, but playonlinux makes it easier
[22:26] <phong_> install or run?
[22:26] <MikeChelen> phong_: pick install if you have some windows program you want to set up
[22:26] <phong_> ok
[22:26] <phong_> let me try intalling wc3
[22:27] <LogicFan> MikeChelen, sorry, didn't see one that was relevant?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> phong_:  you do have WC3 disks handy?
[22:27] <phong_> yes
[22:27] <GSF1200S> furicle: (and others who helped) thanks.. I got the script going well through cron scheduling by user
[22:27] <Cyberthunder> MikeChelen, for office i only use open office, but i understand you
[22:27] <MikeChelen> LogicFan: meganerd was suggesting a command alias: alias dus="du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 . | sort -g"
[22:28] <phong_> dr: so i can only installed games that are in the list?
[22:28] <LogicFan> oh, the du command
[22:28] <phong_> haha
[22:28] <LogicFan> didn't see that, thanks
[22:28] <phong_> will it install any games beside the games list in that list
[22:28] <Cyberthunder> phong_, no not only games that are in the list, imho all games that run under wine, but with games in the list is easier
[22:28] <MikeChelen> Cyberthunder: me too, but some people need ms office for compatibility with other users
[22:29] <phong_> oh okay
[22:29] <harold_>  hello, friends. I have a problem. when I issue the df -h command it reports that my /home partition has 77% ( 24 GB) free space. However, if I want to copy 1.5 GB on it, the system reports "no space left on the device". Do you know what can be causing this? thanks in advance.
[22:29] <phong_> i got ur point
[22:29] <GSF1200S> furicle: by chance, is it possible to make the script run every half hour? Im cool with one hour, but since im using it for HD backup, every half hour would be cool...
[22:29] <daminkz> How do you uninstall a program that has been installed via .bundle file?
[22:30] <phong_> why playonlinux doesn't have drive i can brower for .exe to be installed?
[22:30] <phong_> hmm
[22:31] <MikeChelen> phong_: wine sees the linux filesystem as the C drive
[22:31] <furicle> @GSF1200S sure - use */30 in the minutes column I believe
[22:31] <GSF1200S> furicle: cool.. thanks
[22:31] <phong_> ok mike, let say i have .iso file
[22:31] <Darkedge> How can I change what program should start when I double click something?
[22:31] <phong_> i mounted
[22:31] <phong_> then how would i install with playonlinux
[22:31] <MikeChelen> phong_: point the playonlinux install to wherever the cd is mounted
[22:31]  * berserk_ren is away: take a hide, i'm away...
[22:31] <meganerd> Darkedge: right click, properties, Open With tab
[22:32]  * berserk_ren is back (gone 00:00:13)
[22:32] <furicle> !info nautilus-share
[22:33] <daminkz> can someone help me uninstall .bundle file
[22:33] <Darkedge> meganerd: Thanks! :)
[22:33] <meganerd> Darkedge: np
[22:34] <furicle> grr - sorry - trying to do privately -
[22:35] <furicle> any idea why /msg ubottu !info nautilus-share doesn't work?
[22:35] <maco> furicle: i dont think you need the !
[22:35] <Darkedge> whats mode +z?
[22:35] <phong_> mike i'm lost man
[22:35] <phong_> i put my wc3 cd
[22:36] <phong_> how on earth can i install in playonlinux
[22:36] <phong_> why dont u install the playonlinux
[22:36] <phong_> hmm
[22:36] <Darkedge> phong_: sudo aptitude install playonlinux?
[22:36] <furicle> @maco - hmmm - not working here - possible empathy client issue? I'm an IRC newb
[22:36] <phong_> i have that
[22:36] <phong_> i did open man
[22:36] <phong_> but how can i point to my cd rom drive
[22:36] <maco> furicle: oh yeah i dont htink empathy even does /msg
[22:36] <MikeChelen> phong_: the cd should be in something like /mount/cdrom
[22:37] <guntbert> furicle: try /msg ubottu  <some text> - you get a "private" chat window with her - and there you don't need the ! any more
[22:37] <phong_> and next?
[22:37] <phong_> i go in it
[22:37] <phong_> let say i see intall.exe
[22:37] <KenBW2> is it possible to only scp files which are immediate cildren od a specified directory - ie not subfolders?
[22:37] <phong_> i normally do a right click and open with wine
[22:37] <phong_> since u said open it by playonlinux
[22:37] <phong_> how would i open with playonlinux
[22:37] <MikeChelen> phong_: yah, you can try either way
[22:37] <vydd> how do i burn udf?
[22:38] <guntbert> !enter | phong_
[22:38] <furicle> @guntbert - nope... let me go try a real irc client
[22:39] <geysser> Can any one help me install MonoDevelop 2.2 from tar.bz2?
[22:39] <Out_Cold> jrib, have there been attacks in here today?
[22:39] <jrib> Out_Cold: some
[22:39] <Out_Cold> bot net?
[22:39] <RobotCow> how do i get the icon back on my panel for evolution and empathy?
[22:40] <guntbert> geysser: why don't you use the version from the repos?
[22:40] <Out_Cold> RobotCow, drag the icon from the menu to the panel
[22:40] <MikeChelen> phong_: point playonlinux to the cd, it might look like C:\\media\cdrom
[22:40] <geysser> guntbert it's an old version: 2.0
[22:40] <edomeda> hey guys, I'm using rhythmbox as a music manager, several of the albums (with full id3 tags) are not fetching album cover art.  I wrote a script to import from my old player (banshee in .cache/) but would like to find an app that would be able to download missing albums and store them in the directory with the tracks. (Artist - Album.jpg)  Any suggestions?
[22:41] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:41] <ShazbotMcNasty> !hello
[22:41] <aLeSD> Could u suggest me a good rrs reader ?
[22:41] <Burzmali> Hello, after installing a 2nd video card (nvidia) my system is freezing after "console [tty0] enabled" during boot, any advice?
[22:41] <guntbert> geysser: and you really need the latest - I see - you could be lucky to find one in some ppa
[22:41] <palanthas_> Is it possible to convert a hard drive from NTFS to FAT32 without losing the data? (drives are currently on winXP but I want to put the drives in my ubuntu machine)
[22:42] <meganerd> palanthas_: not that I know of
[22:42] <RobotCow> Out_Cold, that icon isn't in the menu. It looks like an envelope and works for both evolution pidgin and empathy
[22:42] <meganerd> palanthas_: Ubuntu can safely read and write ntfs anyway
[22:42] <infid> how can i tell when the last time someone unlocked gnome was?
[22:42] <ShazbotMcNasty> palanthas_, move your data somewhere else, then reformat, then move back
[22:42] <ShazbotMcNasty> although fat32 isn't supposed to be more than 4gigs I think
[22:42] <geysser> guntbert I've looked, but there is no updated ppa anywhere!The most recent is for 2.0! :)
[22:42] <palanthas_> ok, I was having issues in the past with ubuntu not seeing the drives when they were formated in ntfs
[22:43] <meganerd> palanthas_: I have not had problems recently
[22:43] <guntbert> geysser: did you look at !compile ?
[22:43] <meganerd> I have been using the ntfs-3g stuff for more than a year (2+ Ubuntu releases)
[22:43] <palanthas_> hmm... may just have to try again then I guess. Haven't in a while...
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> palanthas_:  its possible partion magic can do it - i doubt if gparted can.
[22:43] <meganerd> 9.10 even seems to work reasonably well with ntfs USB drives
[22:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> infid, look in /var/log/auth.log for user login and authentication logs
[22:44] <palanthas_> ok Dr_Willis
[22:44] <geysser> guntbert what...exactly is...!compile (Caution!Newbee alert!!!)
[22:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> infid, look in /var/log/faillog to see if anyone has failed logging in
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> palanthas_:  with ntfs - do NOT use windows hibernate/suspend features and  if linux wont mount the drives.. have windows scan/check the drives
[22:44] <infid> thanks ShazbotMcNasty
[22:44] <Out_Cold> RobotCow, you don't have it listed in your internet menu? then create a shortcut on your desktop or add to the menu again. then drag
[22:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> infid,  no prob
[22:44] <guntbert> !compile | geysser sorry
[22:45] <infid> also, how can i rsync a folder from 'foo' to 'bar' where foo and bar are the hostnames of my computers on my LAN?
[22:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> that one I do not know.
[22:45] <Burzmali> Hello, after installing a 2nd video card (nvidia) my system is freezing after "console [tty0] enabled" during boot, any advice?
[22:46] <palanthas_> That shouldn't be an issue Dr_Willis as I plan to put them in the linux machine which is not dual booting to windows
[22:46] <geysser> guntbert let's see....
[22:47] <alessandro_> hello can anyone help me I have to install a graphic card on my ubuntu the graphic card is an X800 allinwonder AGP
[22:47] <guntbert> geysser: but usually its a three step process, 1) unpack, change into the top directory 2) read README and INSTALL 3) follow them {3a) usually ./configure, 3b) make 3c) sudo make install}
[22:48] <guntbert> geysser: Good luck :-) I got to go
[22:48] <alessandro_>  hello can anyone help me I have to install a graphic card on my ubuntu the graphic card is an X800 allinwonder AGP
[22:49] <geysser> guntbert Thanks!
[22:50] <alessandro_>  hello can anyone help me I have to install a graphic card on my ubuntu 9.10 the graphic card is an X800 allinwonder AGP
[22:51] <kingjm> I am looking for a good guide for ipsec/l2tp preshared key. that will work on 8.04lts any ideas?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> alessandro_:  power down.. plug it in... use the hardware drivers tool......
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> alessandro_:  or is there some bigger issue you are having?
[22:51] <VCoolio> geysser: if you're compiling a newer version for something that is in the repos, this command is useful to get dependencies: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> ; also "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install" makes a deb and installs that; usually a good idea but install checkinstall first
[22:51] <kingjm> alessandro looking flgrx drivers
[22:51] <edomeda> hey guys, I'm using rhythmbox as a music manager, several of the albums (with full id3 tags) are not fetching all of the album cover art.  I wrote a script to import from my old player (banshee in .cache/) but would like to find an app that would be able to download missing albums and store them in the directory with the tracks. (Artist - Album.jpg)  Any suggestions?
[22:52] <macman_> help http://pastie.org/781249
[22:53] <palanthas_> alessandro_, plugin the card, start the machine, and once your desktop comes up go to System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[22:53] <alessandro_> kingjm I tryed 2 times and I alwayse cracm my computer wont start my x server
[22:53] <Bantracker> FloodBot2: ('-J',)
[22:53] <Bantracker> FloodBot2: ('-J',)
[22:53] <kingjm> alessandro you also need to install restricted kernel headers
[22:54] <alessandro_> palanthas I did it but it says no driver needed
[22:54] <palanthas_> hmm...
[22:54] <palanthas_> alessandro_, you have an active internet connection when you go into hardware drivers right?
[22:54] <alessandro_> palanthas yes
[22:55] <hspaans> is there someone here with an IBM or Lenovo laptop?
[22:55] <alessandro_> kingjm I installed it by apt
[22:55] <Omega> What wiki software does help.ubuntu.com/community use?
[22:55] <kingjm> alessandro including the restricted kernel headers?
[22:55] <zoddan> Hi
[22:55] <Seveas> Omega, MoinMoin
[22:55] <zoddan> i did something wrong with my ubuntu installation
[22:56] <zoddan> running on a laptop with nvidia gfx
[22:56] <kingjm> I would look into that with synaptic
[22:56] <zoddan> and i activated the nvidia driver
[22:56] <zoddan> and now my GUI wont start
[22:56] <zoddan> is this a common error?
[22:56] <Omega> Seveas: I suspected as much, is there any documentation about what Extension/Themes/etc. they use?
[22:56] <alessandro_> kingjm yes
[22:56] <phong_> is it safe to install nvidia latest from the nvidia package ?
[22:56] <phong_> or ubuntu 's one
[22:57] <Seveas> Omega, ubuntu theme, openid logins. That's it I believe.
[22:57] <ShazbotMcNasty> zoddan, are you at command prompt right now?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> phong_:  i always use the drivers from the repos.. but i have an older card.
[22:57] <Omega> Seveas: Thanks a bunch.
[22:57] <phong_> dr: but the one on the latest nvidia will fix most of the bugs
[22:57] <alessandro_> kingjm and after following a tutorial on the net I always have my xserver ho wont start
[22:57] <JoeSomeLap> hi, i am downloading gnome themes, first time, what do i do with the files? extract them to a particular place?
[22:58] <phong_> why ubuntu dont make rep for the latest one
[22:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> JoeSomebody, go to system>preferences>appearance, and drag the tar.gz into the gui
[22:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> and it should install
[22:58] <ShazbotMcNasty> If not - extract the files to ~/.themes/
[22:58] <phong_> question: is the any app that do a boot then back up a partition?
[22:59] <phong_> i want to do that so if it mess up..i restore the partition
[22:59] <Bantracker> FloodBot2: ('-e', 'fatum!i=42443e63@gateway/web/freenode/x-zpzcfyuyljdbiazl')
[22:59] <JoeSomeLap> shaz thanks
[22:59] <ShazbotMcNasty>  JoeSomebody  no prob.
[22:59] <d0wn> Anyone have this problem with ndiswrapper? I get this even after shutting down modules that would be restricting ndiswrapper. http://pastebin.com/m55fb1d18
[22:59] <alessandro_> kingjm do you have an other idea please ???
[23:00] <Sonjaaa> error launching browser window:no xbl binding for browser
[23:00] <Sonjaaa> halp
[23:00] <geysser> usI can't do this!Someone???
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> !backup | phong_
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> geysser:  Hmmm?
[23:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, what's your problem?
[23:01] <geysser> Dr_Willis: I've been asking for help on installing monodevelop-2.2 from tar.bz2
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> geysser:  no idea. I avoide mono.
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> extract, read install docs.. follow directions.. is the normal way
[23:02] <cowbud> when I share a folder with samba via nautilus where is that information entered? Where can I view all shares i have"/
[23:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, Dr_Willis is right
[23:02] <geysser> Dr_Willis since I'm a .NET guy, it's my only choice!
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> cowbud:   you can use the findsmb and smbtree commands.. but ive never figured out where those shares data is stored at.
[23:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, extract the file to somewhere safe, then read the instructions or README - and it should have installation help there.
[23:03] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: damn buymmer they used to just modify the samba conf that is kinda scary to hide all that info..
[23:03] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: thanks for the tips on the commands
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> cowbud:  scarier that a systel config is getting modified all the time
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> power failure while a user is adding a share.. currupted config file.. bad karma. :)
[23:04] <geysser> after ./configure????
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> I just enable home shares. and leave it at that normally
[23:04] <bastid_raZor> geysser: make
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[23:05] <geysser> errors!!!
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> geysser:  now you know why package managers are so popular.
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> There may be PPA repos for  monodevleop
[23:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, pastebin the errors
[23:06] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, there is monodevelop2.0 in repos, is that too old?
[23:07] <geysser> here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2e3a6cc6
[23:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, the first command the readme says to do is "./configure --prefix=`pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`"
[23:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> then is says "make"
[23:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> then "make install"
[23:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, http://pastebin.com/md6a77e4
[23:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's the readme file and installation instructions
[23:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's called README because you're supposed to READ IT
[23:10] <PyroPhelia> is it possible to activate an inactve lv?
[23:10] <geysser> ShazbotMcNasty I've read it, but I don't get it!prefix? variable?
[23:11] <ShazbotMcNasty> geysser, just paste those commands into your terminal
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> geysser:  note the use of the backticks `  - those are commands that get ran and give out other info.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> geysser:  if this is all voodoo to you - it may be time to learn some more linux basics
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> its also possible theres many other things that need to be installed to compile that monostuff
[23:12] <geysser> backticks my @$$!!!! Again the same errors in make!
[23:12] <ShazbotMcNasty> maybe you did it wrong
[23:13] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'd say redownload the tar.bz2 and try it from scratch
[23:13] <ardchoille> geysser: Compiling apps from source puts dependency resolution on the shoulders of the user. Are you sure you have all of the correct deps installed before trying to compile?
[23:14] <geysser> ardchoille I have all the dependencies mentioned in the MonoDevelop site
[23:14] <CAPcap> I need wine assistance
[23:14] <ardchoille> geysser: All the correct versions of deps?
[23:15] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: why shouldn't it be active?
[23:15] <ShazbotMcNasty> CAPcap, have you went to WINEhq?
[23:15] <ShazbotMcNasty> CAPcap, what do you need help with?
[23:15] <hspaans> geysser: sudo apt-get install mono-mcs
[23:16] <furicle> For the record /msg is not supported in Empathy until 2.29.1 - http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ - Karmic is 2.28
[23:16] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: found it. /var/lib/samba/usershares
[23:16] <darkfuneral> i can't get my document to print in landscape, I've tried specifying -o landscape and -o portrait in the following command: lp -d Brother -P 1-8 -o portrait -o media=letter -o number-up-layout=lrbt -o number-up=4 -o duplex=duplexnotumble -o sides=two-sided-long-edge "$@"
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> http://superuser.com/questions/84697/how-to-install-monodevelop-2-2-on-ubuntu-9-10
[23:17] <geysser> Installed mcs....errors again!
[23:17] <Thunder_Drop> is there a way to send a window from one x screen to another?
[23:17] <adac> My boot time is about 1,24 min.which seems too long for me. Installed bootchart for to see what it causing the slow boot, but actually I'm not able to interpret the bootchartpic. can somoen help me and tell me which program cause the slowliness? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2327030/nutella-karmic-20100116-1.png
[23:18] <cwheeler> is it possible to compile 32 bit binaries in 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:18] <cowbud> Thunder_Drop: if you mean virtual desktop yes if you mean completely different X server no
[23:18] <geysser> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3acce02b
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> cowbud:  great. now i can remove all these shares  i got scattered all over. :)
[23:18] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: exactly my thoughts :)
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> cowbud:  i was looking fo a command to just 'show what shares exist and their paths' :)  but never did find one
[23:19] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: yeah I am going to look for a bug and if none exists file one that really should be something we should be able to see easily
[23:20] <Tuxguy> Can someone point me at the pxe images?
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> cowbud:  yea. the whole samba setup inder ubuntu really needs a lot of love. I can make it work.. but ive been fighting with samba for years
[23:21] <cowbud> yeah
[23:21] <furicle> @cowbug smbstatus -S
[23:21] <hspaans> adac: dump services like mysql, privoxy, tor
[23:22] <geysser> Forget it!I'm giving up!
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> so much for learning to develope mono.
[23:22] <hspaans> adac: or wait for 10.04 when a lot of HAL has been removed
[23:23] <furicle> @cowbud scratch that - doesn't seem to work
[23:23] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: what would happen if geysser had installed monodevelop from the repos and then tried compiling the newer version from source?
[23:23] <adac> hspaans, yeah I need mysql frequently. I can disable tor and privoxy, though.
[23:24] <hspaans> adac: then buy a bigger machine
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  no idea. i imagine he would still get mad and give up.. He could of looked at the url i posted - it had ppa's for it i think and other directioons
[23:24] <cowbud> furicle: thanks though :)
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> $ ls -ld /var/lib/samba/usershares/
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> drwxrwx--T 2 root sambashare 4096 2009-10-19 12:15 /var/lib/samba/usershares/
[23:24] <CAPcap> I need Wine assistance. Who here is good with wine?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> what does 'T' mean in that listing? ive never seen a T befor.
[23:25] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: sticky bit
[23:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> CAPcap, what in wine do you need help with?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> eww its all sticky
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[23:25] <cowbud> Dr_Willis: it means users can create and manipulate files that they created
[23:25] <bazhang> CAPcap, the wine channel is #winehq you should check the appdb
[23:25] <cowbud> much like /tmp
[23:25] <hspaans> a sticky bit without execution rights
[23:25] <bazhang> !appdb | CAPcap
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Somthing rather rare i guess. :)
[23:25] <cowbud> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit
[23:25] <CAPcap> I cant make anything run in it. even the iexplorer.exe it comes with
[23:25] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I think /tmp is like that
[23:25] <CAPcap> and i'll try the wine channel too
[23:25] <adac> hspaans, nahh :P my notebook is already new :P
[23:25] <cowbud> yes /tmp is also that way
[23:26] <bazhang> CAPcap, have you checked the appdb yet
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ls -ld /tmp
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096 2010-01-16 18:12 /tmp
[23:26] <ardchoille> Ah, loercase t
[23:26] <edomeda> hey guys, I'm using rhythmbox as a music manager, several of the albums (with full id3 tags) are not fetching all of the album cover art.  I wrote a script to import from my old player (banshee in .cache/) but would like to find an app that would be able to download missing albums and store them in the directory with the tracks. (Artist - Album.jpg)  Any suggestions?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I got a Lower case T for tmp.. but upper for the usershares dir.. thats different
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed taht befor in modes wither
[23:26] <ardchoille> same here
[23:26] <hspaans> adac: 5400 rpm disk?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis>  monodevelop - 2.2-1~ppa1  -- Hmm what version of monodevelop was that guy looking for?
[23:28] <ardchoille> 2.2
[23:28] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, I just recovered from a major fault.  I had 5 drives fail on me in a 15 disk raid6.  replaced the raid card, readded the drives to array and now the raid is fine, but the lv didn't go active because it couldn't find the raid on startup.  but it's fine now, the command I was looking for was lvchange -ay /dev/foo/bar
[23:28] <adac> hspaans, yeah unfortunately
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> that was a 10 sec google search :P
[23:28] <ardchoille> Looks like it would have helped
[23:28] <hspaans> adac: their is a lot of IO-wait so a faster disk may help a lot
[23:28] <ardchoille> hehe
[23:29] <adac> hspaans, I see! thx!
[23:29] <domo> How do I become root in Ubuntu? sudo su?
[23:29] <iceroot> domo: sudo -i
[23:29] <ardchoille> domo: sudo -i
[23:29] <domo> Thank you
[23:29] <bazhang> domo, you dont need root normally use sudo
[23:29] <adac> sudo su works also
[23:29] <PyroPhelia> domo, you can use su as well, but you have to enable it.
[23:29] <domo> bazhang: i have some work to do
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> dont use sudo su. :) bad habbit.
[23:29] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: vgdisplay shows nothing?
[23:29] <iceroot> adac: but setting environment wrong in some cases
[23:29] <domo> as root
[23:30] <bazhang> then sudo -i if you must
[23:30] <domo> ok
[23:30] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, no it showed the vgs
[23:30] <adac> Dr_Willis, old bad habit ;)
[23:30] <hspaans> adac: a good SSD is a goog investment for a laptop
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> adac:  i still have a habbit of using 'sux' :P
[23:30] <adac> hehe
[23:30] <furicle> ==> find /var/lib/samba/usershares/ -type f -exec grep path "{}" \;
[23:30] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: lvscan also fine?
[23:30] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, the problem was the individual lvs couldn't activate because the disks they were tied to were not in a raid right after restart.  I had to re-add them to their raid.
[23:31] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, yeap
[23:31] <adac> hspaans, Ok onnce they become cheaper I'll get one of those
[23:31] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: you're using lvm-raid?
[23:31] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, negative.  mdadm software raid
[23:31] <flow2fly> good evening
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> furicle:  thanks. I now have a new command/alias -> 'ShowUserShares' :)
[23:32] <ShazbotMcNasty> flow2fly, hello
[23:32] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: it is still syncing?
[23:32] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, so after I replaced the raid backplane I simply used mdadm --add /dev/mdx /dev/sdx,y,z to the raid.  the resync'd fine.  but the lv's didn't come back.  I'm sure they would have come back if I restarted but I had other active LVs that were in use
[23:33] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, no it resync'd already it's fine now
[23:33] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: 15 disks in raid 6 and now already fine? wow
[23:33] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, like I said I just needed the command to reactive the lv that was tied to the raid that died.  it's fine
[23:33] <flow2fly> can anybody help me with some driver problem? (usb sound card)
[23:33] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, it took about a day to resync :)
[23:34] <PyroPhelia> well a day and a half to be honest
[23:35] <semitones> Hey -- why did I have to jump through so many hoops to get here? I was sent first to #ubuntu-proxy-users, and then to #ubuntu-unregged. Is security extra tight for some reason?
[23:35] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> semitones: botnet spam attack on freenode
[23:35] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: you know you should put only 10 disk max in a raid6 set?
[23:35] <semitones> yikes
[23:36] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, says who?  I've worked on sgi boxes that had had 20+ in a single raid6
[23:36] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> don't click the links, and stay tuned to #freenode
[23:36] <PyroPhelia> granted this is a little different because it's software raid but it works fine for the most part
[23:36] <semitones> My real question is this -- I want to boot ubuntu from usb on a laptop that is too old to do this. Are there any good cdrom based workarounds?
[23:37] <semitones> the ones I've tried in the past were too balky
[23:37] <Hexxeh> Hi
[23:37] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: multiple vendors, you can put more in a set but you will pay a penalty
[23:37] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, raid6 according to spec has no theoretical limmit.  iirc
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  ive only seen that for a few disrtos.   if it can boot from cd that may be the best way to install.. or you could set up grub2 on the HD to boot iso files also on the HD.
[23:37] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: you don't want more then 10 for recovery/performance issues
[23:38] <Hexxeh> Just booted up the Karmic LiveCD to try and find the vmlinuz binary, but it's a symlink in root pointing to a file that doesn't exist? Where can I find the actual vmlinuz and initrd.img files for Karmic?
[23:38] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, multiple vendors?  na I use the same model and disk size for my raids.  when I can't get the same drive anymore I let the system die and build off new disks.  i know it sounds crazy but it's actually cheaper and you avoid io penaltys
[23:38] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, the servers I work with have 45 disks in them each, spread across 3 15 disk raid 6s
[23:39] <PyroPhelia> ~188MBps write 290+ read
[23:39] <Thunder_Drop> I have an nvidia video card that has the apropriate driver installed and works fine but when I check the box in the nvidia-settings manager that enables xinera I cannot compose the screen .  Does the nvidia driver get bypassed when xinera is enables?
[23:39] <semitones> thanks Dr_Willis: I don't need to install -- I just want to run ubuntu -like as in a live cd, for maintenance, just faster because it's on a usb drive. So is there a way to boot from cd, and then the cd tells the laptop to boot from usb?
[23:39] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, have you ever heard of backblaze pods?
[23:40] <sdwrage> Hey all, I am using an ati radeon hd 2600 pro and I am looking in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in Section "Device" for Identifier and instead of Radeon blah blah blah I get "Configured Video Device". Any way I can get my ati card to work properly?
[23:41] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, you can't beat 67TB for $7k
[23:41] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: do you have the restricted driver installed?
[23:42] <sdwrage> Thunder_Drop, I dont want to use the flgrx driver
[23:42] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: yes and no redundancy
[23:42] <sdwrage> wanted to use the open source driver
[23:42] <sdwrage> so I am not sure what you mean :S
[23:42] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, how so?  I can have 3 drives fail before I lose any data
[23:43] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: where I work we need more then 67TB
[23:43] <PyroPhelia> plus I have all my servers backed up in co-location sites so it's not like i'm worried about a single box
[23:43] <PyroPhelia> most people do
[23:43] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: under the system administration tab hit hardware drivers then select the recomended driver for your video card... this way the computer knows what to do with your card
[23:43] <PyroPhelia> the point is backblaze is the best option for "cheap" storage
[23:43] <PyroPhelia> is it as fast as a scsi system?  not by a long shot, but they're perfect for HD video dumps
[23:43] <sdwrage> Thunder_Drop, yeah that will intall the proprietary drivers
[23:44] <sdwrage> install
[23:44] <flow2fly> I have the problem that my usb souncard does not get recognized every second start or so
[23:44] <flow2fly> maybe nows how to solve this
[23:44] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: servers with 800 to over 2000 LUNs are normal
[23:44] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: without installing the driver I don't think that linux will be able to identify your devices properly
[23:45] <Dextronaught> :O
[23:45] <Dextronaught> how do I know whether I'm using alsa-base, esound, jack, etc.?
[23:45] <Dextronaught> I do have to unistall each one and install the next, right?
[23:45] <sdwrage> Thunder_Drop, but there is an open source ati driver I thought
[23:45] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, yes but it's also very expnesive to setup.  you can't build a 67TB scsi system for $7k
[23:45] <sdwrage> I mean... I can use linux right now
[23:45] <sdwrage> but I just want updated drivers for higher resolution and faster speed
[23:45] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, $70k maybe.  but not $7k
[23:45] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: Yes it works without the driver but any advanced features require the restricted driver
[23:46] <minimec> until 9.10 it was possible to do dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets to make freq change available for all user. IN karmic that no longer works. Do you know the new solution. In forum they say that you will be prompted your password if you add CPU Freq Selector, but that doesn't happen here.
[23:46] <sdwrage> Thunder_Drop, and what about the open source driver?
[23:46] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, this is the age of it DEEP cuts.  Evolve or die.
[23:46] <flow2fly> sdwrage: it works for me
[23:46] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: you mean the one included with ubuntu?
[23:46] <Dextronaught> how do I know whether I'm using alsa-base, esound, jack, etc.?
[23:46] <Dextronaught> I do have to unistall each one and install the next, right?
[23:47] <sdwrage> Thunder_Drop, as far as I know... the flgrx one is included with ubuntu and thats the proprietary driver
[23:47]  * sdwrage shrugs
[23:47] <flow2fly> sdwrage: correct
[23:48] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: right click on the little speaker on the top right of the screen and hit sound preferences... navigate to the hardware tab
[23:48] <iflema> semitones debian has a tool forget name.. was in the /tools directory... argh... pretty sure it could boot usb without the BIOS option to do so.... but the thing is it lives where grub lives generally speaking.. but ya can get aroung this aswell
[23:48] <Thunder_Drop> sdwrage: I'm not sure... I have Nvidia myself
[23:48] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: which deep cuts?
[23:48] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, budget
[23:49] <flow2fly> sdwrage: if you want to play 3d games i think you might need the restricted driver
[23:49] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, the work flow today is build it bigger and build it cheaper, or find a new job :/
[23:49] <sdwrage> flow2fly, ok ill look at it
[23:49] <Thunder_Drop> If xinerama is enabled do the functions of my nvidia driver stop working preventing my screen from being able to compose?
[23:49] <flow2fly> sdwrage: you want to play games?
[23:49] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: your costs are not in hardware
[23:50] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: but we go offtopic
[23:50] <PyroPhelia> agreed
[23:51] <GSF1200S> anyone here have google earth on buntu who knows how to embed local images in placemarks?
[23:51] <ardchoille> Nautilus has a tabbed ui, how do I launch nautilus with more than one tab?
[23:51] <Dextronaught> Thunder_Drop, http://yfrog.com/0701162010002p
[23:51] <Dextronaught> that's what it looks like
[23:52] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: then you hit the profile button at the bottom and you can switch between the installed sound systems
[23:53] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: If I'm correct :)
[23:53] <leffe123> My firefox crashes a lot, I think it is associated with flash
[23:53] <Izinucs> Thunder_Drop: from what I understand there is some quirkyness with xinerama.. why are you using it?
[23:54] <hspaans> PyroPhelia: you checked lvchange btw?
[23:54] <Thunder_Drop> Izinucs: I was looking into different options other than the nvidia twinview but it seems that I can't enable any desktop effects with xinerama
[23:55] <vaix> what are the differences between grub / grub-pc?  running ubuntuo 9.10 and want to find stage2_eltorito to make an iso and it does  not exist.  I think it exists in "grub" but I am running "grub-pc" - is it ok to cross-grade?
[23:55] <leffe123> firefox outputs a lot of errors, for example: (firefox:2972): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handler_disconnect: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[23:55] <Dextronaught> Thunder_Drop, when I open Firefox, whichever runs first (Java or Flash), only 1 of them can have sound, or else I need to restart the browser. I'm not sure if you know what I mean. This is on Karmic. Is this typical? any fix?
[23:55] <Thunder_Drop> Izinucs: I think its because my nvidia driver gets bypassed when xinerama is enabled
[23:55] <Izinucs> Thunder_Drop: I use to use xinerama on 6.06 but dropped it.. now I just run a BIG monitor.. nvidia should have some docs on it..
[23:56] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: so whichever gets used first is the only one that can funtion untill firefox is restarted?
[23:57] <Dextronaught> yes
[23:57] <PyroPhelia> hspaans, hmm?
[23:57] <SealedWithAKiss> Hey, I'm going to need a little help here. I'm a complete Linux novice, however I have been running Linux Ubuntu on a spare partition for a couple of years. Today I booted into Linux, and found that the kernel started in low graphics mode. This hasn't happened before. Can anybody help?
[23:57] <Kovensky> http://www.phantom-subs.net/wp-content/themes/sonic/images/top.jpg <-- I wonder what was the source image they used for this banner
[23:57] <vlt> Hello. Can I take an element of an SVG (a single object, group or layer) and put it into a separate file to make it re-usable for other inkscape documents?
[23:58] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: Do you have the newest versions of firefox, java and shockwave?
[23:58] <Dextronaught> I do have the newest version of Firefox, Java too
[23:59] <Dextronaught> shockwave, Idk
[23:59] <Dextronaught> I use Adobe Flash