[14:44] <LinuX2half> Does anyone know why I receive the message "Can't open new sessions" "Probably a problem with the medium". This message occurred in k3b CD writing program, I was trying to burn an image to the DVD and the error arrived.
[14:45] <LinuX2half> hm.. is anyone here..?
[14:47] <DexterF> hi
[14:47] <DexterF> 9.10: shutdown applet won't work. click button, nothing happens. anyone know what's wrong here?
[14:53] <Nordmoen> could anyone help me with eclipse and dropins? it seems like eclipse doesn't load the dropins at all, but debug doesn't tell me anything
[14:57] <yabuk> Tm_T, yeas, I'm
[14:58] <yabuk> rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop*
[14:58] <yabuk> but it not fixed my problem
[15:01] <axiom> How can I tell what sound system I am running?  (trying to get sound in flash.)
[15:01] <natch> My old PC cannot run X window for many distros, but the Kubuntu can. Even though when it ups to date for new kernel, it cannot run.
[15:02] <natch> Why is it being like this?
[15:03] <DexterF> axiom: check ps ax if pulse is running. frehs install of 9.10? probably pulseaudio. for flash and pulse you need a package... mmh.. flashsomething...
[15:03] <DexterF> some plugin..? not sure
[15:03] <DexterF> what's the easiest way to file a bug report?
[15:04] <Tm_T> yabuk: you have to be logged out from KDE while you do that
[15:05] <axiom> DexterF: ah, I do have pulse then.  Flash sound did work before, but then when I setup my surround sound it quit working.
[15:05] <axiom> DexterF: What are you filing a bug report against?
[15:06] <DexterF> axiom: shutdown applet broken
[15:06] <axiom> for kde?
[15:06] <DexterF> uh hu
[15:06] <DexterF> clicking the shutdown button doesnt do a thing. shutdown -h works.
[15:07] <axiom> hmm.. I've seen that sometimes
[15:07] <axiom> have you used https://bugs.kde.org ?
[15:07] <DexterF> well, I guess its a kubuntu thing.
[15:07] <axiom> maybe
[15:07] <axiom> I guess that would be launchpad then
[15:08] <yabuk> Tm_T: I used a live cd to do that command
[15:08] <DexterF> does one need an account for that?
[15:08] <axiom> yes
[15:08] <axiom> hmm. so when I "ps ax" I see "12699 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep pulse"
[15:08] <natch> :)
[15:09] <natch> cannot run X window
[15:09] <axiom> but then when I "sudo killall pulseaudio"  I get "pulseaudio: no process found"
[15:35] <dlublink> Hey, I am wondering if you guys could tell me why you chose KDE and not Gnome ?
[15:36] <Tm_T> dlublink: ask in #kubuntu-offtopic (:
[15:36] <dlublink> I get in trouble a lot :P
[15:37] <Tm_T> no you're not in trouble (:
[15:54] <HeaVenGh0st> Hi there
[15:54] <HeaVenGh0st> I need help on installing kubuntu
[15:57] <HeaVenGh0st> anyone?
[15:58] <jussi01> HeaVenGh0st: just ask the question
[15:58] <HeaVenGh0st> I am trying to install kubuntu on win xp
[15:58] <HeaVenGh0st> but first error came like 247mb ram it need 256mb
[15:59] <HeaVenGh0st> after saying continue.. some stuff gone further but stuck on creating virtual drive
[16:00] <jussi01> HeaVenGh0st: if you have only that amount of ram I would really suggest something like xubuntu
[16:00] <HeaVenGh0st> but same goes with ubuntu 9.04
[16:00] <HeaVenGh0st> nothing happens.. trying to install with wubi
[16:03] <HeaVenGh0st> how long would it take to install ubuntu 9.04 through wubi?
[16:04] <Tm_T> jussi01: Xubuntu installer needs same amount
[16:04] <Tm_T> IIRC
[16:05] <HeaVenGh0st> Tm_T: I am entered into the ubuntu GUI first time after rebooting
[16:06] <HeaVenGh0st> it says Chekcing installation?
[16:06] <Tm_T> sorry I don't know
[16:06] <HeaVenGh0st> ok
[16:06] <HeaVenGh0st> :(]
[16:08] <actionParsnip__> hey guys, my system is missing the bottom kde bar, how can I get it back please
[16:13] <fujimitsu> actionParsnip__: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=57853
[16:16] <actionParsnip__> fujimitsu: ty man
[16:29] <Nordmoen> could anyone help me with eclipse and dropins? it seems like eclipse doesn't load the dropins at all, but debug doesn't tell me anything
[16:41] <blue112> Be;l
[16:41] <blue112> Hello here*
[16:41] <blue112> How can I install amarok < 2.0 ? Everywhere one the wiki it's written that amarok 2.x isn't ended yet, but I can't find a place to download the old one :/
[16:41] <shadeslayer_> blue112: i dont think you can install < 2.0
[16:42] <blue112> shadeslayer_, then I just have to use a unfinished amarok, with no alternative ?
[16:42] <shadeslayer_> though google may turn up something
[16:42] <shadeslayer_> blue112: um its not unfinished... i really like it
[16:42] <blue112> There's no media device support
[16:42] <blue112> The old amarok does it fine
[16:42] <shadeslayer_> blue112: which device?
[16:43] <blue112> Every
[16:43] <blue112> i can't find any option to connect a device into amarok 2.2
[16:43] <shadeslayer_> uh,no i can use my ipod and blackberry
[16:43] <shadeslayer_> blue112: that doesnt mean it has no support
[16:43] <blue112> Then what, it's hidden ?
[16:43] <shadeslayer_> blue112: you just need to find it,its under the collection menu
[16:44] <shadeslayer_> blue112: the left most panel, Collection > HD/Device
[16:45] <blue112> shadeslayer_, I don't have such thing, I just have a left pannel which says "Local Music", "Internet"...
[16:45] <shadeslayer_> blue112: local music > collection
[16:46] <BluesKaj> blue112, there's a site for amarok kde3 version , forgotten the url
[16:47] <blue112> shadeslayer_, ok, so now I have "Local Collection" with my musics inside... where would I configure the divces ?
[16:47] <shadeslayer_> blue112: find it?
[16:47] <blue112> devices*
[16:47] <shadeslayer_> blue112: theres no need for configuring,just click on the music on your HD and right click it > transfer to > click device
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> its autoconfigured
[16:48] <BluesKaj> oops I misunderstood ....again :)
[16:48] <blue112> shadeslayer_, no, my device isn't detected by amarok. In the old version, I use to manually configure it
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> BluesKaj: hehe :)
[16:49] <kraken_> bonjour
[16:49] <BluesKaj> I have amarok but I'm not using it ...the new one is clunky IMO
[16:50] <blue112> kraken_, this is an english-speaking channel :)
[16:50] <shadeslayer_> blue112: use : right click > copy to collection > Device
[16:51] <blue112> I don't have "copy to collection"
[16:51] <shadeslayer_> blue112: did the device appear in the local collection?
[16:52] <blue112> No, it's not. I told you I should configure it manually.
[16:52] <shadeslayer_> blue112: did you mount the device?
[16:52] <blue112> shadeslayer_, I did.
[16:53] <shadeslayer_> blue112: what did you attach?
[16:53] <blue112> an iPhone (which is fully supported by libgpod)
[16:54] <shadeslayer_> blue112: hmm better ask in #amarok before replacing 2.2 with 1.4
[16:54] <blue112> :/
[16:54] <blue112> There's no way to configure devices manually ?
[16:56] <shadeslayer_> blue112: please ask in #amarok
[16:56] <shadeslayer_> blue112: also : http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[16:56] <blue112> shadeslayer_, that's for the old amarok ;)
[16:57] <blue112> I've asked in #amarok :/
[16:57] <shadeslayer_> blue112: what did they say?
[16:58] <blue112> Nothing
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> blue112: then please wait for a answer and see the link i gave you
[17:04] <Kolia> blue112: are you sure the iphone is *fully* supported
[17:04] <Kolia> ?
[17:05] <jason_> kubuntu doesnt have the software center???
[17:05] <Kolia> the last time i checked (christmas) it was more fully instable..
[17:05] <jason_> was that directed to me?
[17:05] <blue112> Kolia, it's enough supported for me to put music on it :)
[17:06] <blue112> That's all I want to with it ;)
[17:06] <Kolia> blue112: you use the gtkpod thingy?
[17:06] <blue112> gtkpod is crashing because of a weird problem, but it used to work.
[17:06] <Kolia> it detected my music find, but i didn't dare to sync it, too afraid of messzing it :)
[17:07] <Kolia> it's not supported in amarok now afaik
[17:07] <shadeslayer> btw i heard that they removed support for ipod devices from 3rd party apps on engadget
[17:07] <Kolia> and i don't think it handled iphone in its old version neither
[17:07] <blue112> It was supported on the old version
[17:07] <Kolia> shadeslayer: 'they' = ?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Kolia: apple
[17:08] <blue112> As it used libgpod, and libgpod supported it
[17:08] <Kolia> blue112: iphone? i don't think so. Ipod yes
[17:08] <Kolia> shadeslayer: yep they messed up with the ipod touch and iphone making it hard to sync since dev had to reverse engineered it *again*
[17:09] <Kolia> i should try to sync my music with gtkpod.. not a big risk actually
[17:09] <shadeslayer> Kolia: yeah thats what i heard... apple was stupid enough to mess with the Open source community
[17:10] <Kolia> shadeslayer: well it has always been their strategy and according to their results, looks like a good one
[17:10] <Kolia> it just sucks for us :)
[17:11] <jason_> why is it kubuntu doesnt have the sfotware center??
[17:11] <Vroomfondle> lack of manpower, probably
[17:12] <jason_> sigh
[17:12] <jason_> maybe someday
[17:12] <Kolia> or maybe never, not sure it's planned
[17:13] <jason_> well
[17:13] <jason_> if its not planned for 10.04, I think its time I go to a distro that gives a damn about kde
[17:13] <jason_> but I'll hang onto hope for 10.04
[17:13] <jason_> for the 5th time
[17:23] <Kolia> jason_: software center has noting to do with kde, i don't see your point.
[17:24] <jason_> software center is on ubuntu
[17:24] <jason_> but not on kubuntu
[17:24] <jason_> that's my point
[17:25] <Kolia> "i think it's time ti go to a distro that gives a damn about kde" : what does that mean?
[17:25] <jason_> I've used a ton of distros, and I'm just not sold on the fact that canonical acknowledges Kubuntu is as big as it is.
[17:26] <jason_> I have heard rumors though that they're trying to put more devs on the 10.04 LTS release though
[17:26] <jason_> which it'd be the perfect time to really push that full bo re
[17:26] <Kolia> i see
[17:26] <Dragnslicer> Is "Software Center" anything more than an apt GUI?
[17:26] <jason_> not really
[17:27] <jason_> it's very nice to use though
[17:27] <jason_> it just would have been nice to see it integrated from the get go
[17:34] <tobias___> does someone know a programm for flash-programming at kubunut for free?
[17:38] <TheAncientGoat> tobias___: Do you only need an actionscript compiler, or something like the Adobe flash ide?
[17:38] <hellhound_> i am having trouble playing a dvd.  when i insert the disk it does not do anything but mount the disk.  when i try to play it with Dragon Player it just brings up a black screen but still will not play
[17:38] <TheAncientGoat> Because you have lots of options if you just want to use Actionscript
[17:39] <TheAncientGoat> hellhound_: Try installing VLC
[17:39] <iconmefisto> hellhound_: just this one dvd? can you play others?
[17:40] <tobias___> No, Adobe Flash
[17:40] <hellhound_> iconmefisto: it is all dvds
[17:40] <iconmefisto> !dvd
[17:40] <iconmefisto> !medibuntu
[17:42] <tw0r> morning...
[17:42] <iconmefisto> hellhound_: using the medibuntu repository to install required packages is what I do to enable dvd playback, amongst other things
[17:43] <tw0r> can I speak czech here?
[17:44] <iconmefisto> hellhound_: medibuntu info re: dvd playback https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing%20Encrypted%20DVDs
[17:46] <TheAncientGoat> tobias___: Actionscript is Flash. Its the "code" that defines what the swf file shows (roughly). Think of it as html versus dreamweaver. Unfortunately there aren't any visual flash IDE's but you can get around well enough using a normal IDE thats geared up for Actionscript
[17:47] <hellhound_> iconmefisto: thank you that worked!!!
[17:47] <tobias___> Ah okay
[17:47] <tobias___> ^^
[17:48] <hellhound_> iconmefisto: is there a better player than dragon.  one that has slow mode and fast forward?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> hellhound_, VLC
[17:49] <iconmefisto> hellhound_: vlc is my fav. smplayer is not bad too (it's mplayer-based)
[17:50] <TheAncientGoat> tobias___: I think you might be able to use the windows version under Wine or crossover though
[17:51] <hellhound_> BluesKaj: iconmefisto:  what is the package name for vlc?  I found many packages with vlc in it
[17:51] <wrinkliez> hey guys, i have a problem with flash.  it seems that every now and then i cant click on the buttons. like im watching a youtube vid and i cant pause or click the bar.  p.s. im not using 64bit flash
[17:51] <BluesKaj> just plain vlc aka VideoLan
[17:53] <jason__> is anybody running the broadcom STA driver in kubuntu?
[17:53] <jason__> every time I try to install it, my laptop locks up
[17:55] <iconmefisto> jason__: how are you trying to install it?
[17:57] <Empty_foo> is xUbuntu debian or something else?
[17:57] <blue112> Empty_foo, xubuntu is ubuntu running xfce desktop
[17:58] <Empty_foo> lol.. x as in (x) ubuntu..
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Empty_foo, all ubuntu releases are debian based
[17:59] <Empty_foo> thanks BluesKaj
[17:59] <BluesKaj> they just differ by desktop management , mostly
[18:08] <jason_> well it looks like I have wireless now
[18:08] <jason_> not sure why it bombed out the first time I tried to add it
[18:09] <jason_> system locked up when adding the STA driver in the hardware manager. So I cut the power, booted back up again, and added it again. I added it the 2nd time successfully however it wouldnt allow me to click anything. it prompted me to reboot but never allowed me to click on the kickoff menu to reboot. It was just dead, yet I coiuld move the mouse.
[18:09] <jason_> cut the power AGAIN and this time I could boot up with wireless
[18:09] <jason_> blah
[18:13] <RiotingPacifist> kdm no longer seams to start if i don't have ipv6 support, is this an upstream issue or a packaging one
[18:20] <jmichaelx> is dolphin able to show the size of a dir, without right-clicking and viewing properties?
[18:22] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: yes, in dolphin prefs, general, status bar tab, enable "show space information"
[18:23] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: i have that selected. it shows me the amount of free space, not the size of the directory
[18:24] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: ok, I see what you mean, sorry
[18:24] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: from what i can tell, there is no way to set it to show directory sizes. if that is the case, that is really, really lame
[18:24] <RiotingPacifist> iconmefisto: doesn't that only show the size of the partition, you can't know the size of a dir without going through all the sub dirs so, unless you use something like kfilesizeviewer you can't do what you want
[18:24] <RiotingPacifist> s/ iconmefisto / jmichaelx
[18:25] <jmichaelx> RiotingPacifist: it seems to me that is functionality that should be a basic part of any file browser
[18:26] <RiotingPacifist> No file browser will impliment it because it would make browsing too slow
[18:27] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: it shows in status bar number of files and folders, and total size of files (not including subdirectories)
[18:28] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: ok, that is not showing in my status bar. i wonder what it is i have not selected in preferenced
[18:28] <jmichaelx> preferences*
[18:31] <iconmefisto> do you have anything selected? when no files are selected I see that info in status bar. when files are selected it shows info about the selections
[18:32] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: no, nothing selected
[18:34] <jmichaelx> it seems to me, a file system would ideally keep some sort of running tab of file/directory sizes. maybe that would just be too resource intensive?
[18:34] <RiotingPacifist> to make it feasible you would need to store the information somewhere and then recuse upwards every time you modify a file, so if i modify "/home/juan/code/others/code/linux-2.6.33-rc4/arch/x86/kernel/acpi/boot.c" something needs to update 12 files, that's 12 files per file, image if i ran a patch that modified 50 files thats 600 extra file updates
[18:35] <jmichaelx> yeah, i am sure that would bog things down
[18:37] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: don't know why you're not seeing the statusbar info. this is what it looks like here: http://imagebin.ca/view/eHszsI.html
[18:38] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: ty. i certainly am not seeing that. what version of kde/dolphin are you using?
[18:39] <iconmefisto> dolphin 1.4, KDE 4.4 RC
[18:40] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: but I'm pretty sure dolphin has always shown that
[18:40] <jmichaelx> hmm, i wonder if that has been added to 1.4
[18:40] <jmichaelx> ok
[18:40] <jmichaelx> i am looking at dolphn on two different machines. that info is showing on neither.
[18:40] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: I'm looking in settings. maybe it's something I enabled and forgot about
[18:40] <shadowhywind> hay all running into a problem trying to add a printer, its coming up with a Printer Configuration does not provide an interface 'KCModule' If i start systemsetting from the console I get This module has no valid entry symbol at all. The reason could be that it's still using K_EXPORT_COMPONENT_FACTORY with a custom X-KDE-FactoryName which is not supported anymore any ideas?
[18:41] <RiotingPacifist> looking up file sizes by default would also be slow, if you want to look for large files taking up your harddisk space du/filelight/konqueror's filesizeviewer can help
[18:41] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: i will continue to poke around. i appreciate your assistance.
[18:41] <fujimitsu> file>properties shows other/extra info of folder in view
[18:42] <jmichaelx> fujimitsu: yes, i had just discovered that. that is helpful, although i wish i could get the details to show up in the status bar, as they do for iconmefisto
[18:50] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: do you see file size info in status bar when a file is selected?
[18:52] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: no, only the number of folder
[18:58] <jhonny> hola
[19:02] <markus__> Hy everybody
[19:03] <markus__> I have problems with 2 plasmoid: facebook and google calendar
[19:03] <markus__> The facebook plasmoid does not wait for my internet connection to establish. So it does not start working at all
[19:04] <markus__> The google calender plasmoid say I should turn on browser plugins. How do I do that for a plasmoid?
[19:04] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: interestingly, the information given by dolphin, under file>properties does not match the output of df -h
[19:06] <martijn_> the scripts in ktorrent do not work, is there anything i miss here?
[19:09] <jason_> whats up guys
[19:14] <foxgenco> por fin
[19:14] <foxgenco> hola
[19:14] <foxgenco> Tengo un problema con el teclado no se si alguien sepa como resolverlo
[19:15] <foxgenco> el acento esta al lado de la ñ y no de la p
[19:15] <foxgenco> que hago?
[19:15] <jason_> hablas engles?
[19:15] <foxgenco> ok
[19:15] <foxgenco> sorry
[19:15] <seme> hi guys
[19:15] <foxgenco> my problem is
[19:15] <jason_> thats the one thing I can say in spanish :P
[19:15] <foxgenco> i need configure the keyboard to spanish mexico
[19:16] <foxgenco> but no exist mexico, only spain
[19:16] <jason_> ehh I'm not too sure. :(
[19:16] <arturet> Hello, can anyone try to open a DCC to my user, I'm suspecting I have Firewall problems
[19:16] <seme> kubuntu doesn't have the standard ubuntu administration apps installed?  How do I get to the admin apps that ubuntu has normaly?
[19:16] <seme> I don't remember what the command line for the x config is
[19:18] <foxgenco> mmm
[19:19] <iconmefisto> mexico uses a different keyboard layout?
[19:20] <foxgenco> well are the same of variation of latinoamerica
[19:20] <foxgenco> but that option no exist
[19:20] <fujimitsu> !sudo > seme
[19:21] <foxgenco> i need the config of keyboard .
[19:21] <foxgenco> the
[19:21] <fujimitsu> !sp
[19:21] <foxgenco> Spanish-mexico (variant latinoamerica )
[19:21] <iconmefisto> foxgenco: I see Latin American in the list
[19:21] <seme> ubottu: not sure what that is for?
[19:21] <foxgenco> where are? that
[19:21] <seme> I know sudo I just don't remember what command is for the ubuntu xconfig utility
[19:21] <fujimitsu> right , ubottu , i meant !es
[19:22] <seme> since I'm running kubuntu which means I don't have the standard ubuntu administration menu
[19:22] <seme> that is visible in gnome
[19:22] <iconmefisto> foxgenco: systemsettings > regional & language > keyboard layout
[19:24] <amichair> can anyone recommend a dark-ish color scheme? something easy on the eyes, but not depressing...
[19:25] <fujimitsu> something dark and cheerie..  interesting taste.. kde-look.org might help you
[19:25] <foxgenco> okey thantks for help
[19:25] <foxgenco> bye
[19:25] <amichair> fujimitsu: thanks, I was hoping for a specific recommendation :-)
[19:27] <amichair> a white background everywhere feels like staring into a flourescent light...
[19:29] <fujimitsu> screen brightness can be adjusted via power management applet
[19:29] <fujimitsu> [the one that looks like a battery in task bar]
[19:30] <amichair> fujimitsu: that or the monitor brightness controls.. but that just makes everything dull and reduces contrast
[19:31] <amichair> I guess I'll just play around with the colors myself :-)
[19:31] <fujimitsu> indeed.. but i'd check some themes at that website .. wouldnt hurt
[19:32] <amichair> I'll do that to, thanks :-)
[20:02] <andey> how do i get rid touchpad tap to click?
[20:07] <phoenixz> Hi, I have a dual monitor setup now on my laptop (attached old monitor), configured 2nd monitor to the left of the first one.. I want firefox to be configured in such a way with specific window behaviour that it will show up on the second monitor if connected. If not, it should show on the first. Is this possible
[20:18] <seme> is there any way to make the kde monitor config write those changes so that they are global instead of for my user?
[20:25] <phoenixz> Could anybody take a look at my Xorg.0.log file here http://pastebin.com/f56f54cf2 and give me a clue as to what might be causing my laptop (Dell D620, Intel I945 GFX chipset) to work slow (while not having high CPU, top shows) and every 30 seconds or so to like.. hang for 10 seconds (I can write, but text does not show up for like 10 seconds, mouse moves normal..)
[20:26] <mael> e ae?
[20:44] <jaime_> hola a todo@s
[20:48] <jaime_> j/ #kubuntu-es
[20:51] <kraken> hello
[20:51] <Alfmanu> hi
[20:52] <jean__> Test
[20:52] <jean__> Hello where i am ?
[20:53] <jean__> and who are you ?
[20:56] <zaqs> :)
[20:59] <jason_> Trying to understand linux permissions here... if I have a file owned by curt:curt, and me (jason) is a member of the group curt, and the RWX permissions on it are 770, why is it I get permission denied when I try to rsync that directory to a 2nd hard drive?
[21:02] <Xpert> gu
[21:02] <Xpert> hi
[21:02] <Xpert> i need install bitchx in win32
[21:02] <tsimpson> ask in ##windows
[21:03] <jaime_> join #kubuntu-es
[21:04] <iconmefisto> jaime_: type /join #kubuntu-es (or click the channel name in this line)
[21:04] <phoenixz> Could anybody take a look at my Xorg.0.log here http://pastebin.com/f56f54cf2 ? Im talking in #intel-gfx about my intel driver causing me problems, they mentioned me that there are continuous xrandr calls being executed, they figure that comes from KDE.. Can anybody tell me what the problem is here and if its related to KDE?
[21:10] <happy> phoenixz: there are smarter kde people on #kde
[21:13] <shadeslayer> phoenixz: yeah #kde is a better place for that
[21:15] <phoenixz> happy: shadeslayer: crap, wrong channel, I thought I Iwas already in KDE :) thanks anyway!
[21:19] <dexel> тут водку пьют?
[21:20] <dexel> когда Ubuntu-10 выйдет?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> !ru | dexel
[21:22] <SimpleAnecdote> Hiya guys. So I'm on Kubuntu 9,10 64bit and npviewer.bin (the flash player) is eating my cpu usage and everything slows down until I force quit it (which of course makes the flash app blank and unsable). Is there anything I can do?
[21:25] <floh> Hi, I want to try to get wlan working with wpa. I had it working with kubuntu 9.04 (without knetworkmanager). But since 9.10 wpa is not working (except if I connect wlan with knetworkmanager). Could someone explain what could be wrong since kubuntu update? Or do someone have a "checklist", which I should try to find out why it isn't working?
[21:27] <phoenixz> RiotingPacifist: Just checked, should be no problem, the i810 is an ancient driver that has nothing to do with my chipset.. Not sure why X would complain though..
[21:27] <phoenixz> RiotingPacifist: anyway, this could not be the cause for the xrandr calls then?
[21:29] <RiotingPacifist> phoenixz: the only error in the log is i810 related, that's all im going from
[21:30] <phoenixz> RiotingPacifist: okay.. so there are no known problems from KDE about multiple xrandr call then?
[21:30] <iconmefisto> could someone explain what the kde4.4RC widget sharing is? I don't understand what is meant by "allows you to access this widget from another computer as a remote control"
[21:31] <RiotingPacifist> phoenixz: none i know of
[21:32] <phoenixz> \Also nothing in KDE that could cause duplicated EDID readings in the xorg log files?
[21:34] <kubotp> hello
[21:35] <kubotp> anybody know how to get list of used ports?  I want to catch program that use dhcp port = 67 and 68
[21:35] <RiotingPacifist> kubotp: sudo netstat -4ap
[21:38] <kubotp> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State       PID/Program name
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 localhost:mysql         *:*                     LISTEN      -
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 localhost:ipp           *:*                     LISTEN      -
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 host137-218-155-9:48974 bos-d040c-rdr3.blue:aol ESTABLISHED 13505/pidgin
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 host137-218-155-9:60165 kouky.bearstech.co:8001 ESTABLISHED 17876/konversation
[21:38] <RiotingPacifist> !pastebin > kubotp
[21:38] <FloodBotK1> kubotp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 host137-218-155-9:60993 64.12.30.88:aol         ESTABLISHED 13505/pidgin
[21:38] <kubotp> tcp        0      0 host137-218-155-9:58703 buddychat-d01b.blue:aol ESTABLISHED 13505/pidgin
[21:38] <kubotp> udp        0      0 *:bootpc                *:*                                 -
[21:38] <kubotp> udp        0      0 *:57820                 *:*                                 -
[21:38] <kubotp> udp        0      0 *:mdns                  *:*
[21:38] <kubotp> where is DHCP client?
[21:40] <axiom> no sound in 64bit flash.  Should I even be trying to geet this to work with pulseaudio, or is that not meant to wrk?
[21:41] <chashall> maco hi ya
[21:43] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: i've had it working both without PA, but without doing anything so i can't help other than saying that it's acheivable
[21:45] <axiom> RiotingPacifist: Well, thanks for the encouragement anyway
[21:47] <audi_a6> axiom = suzuki axiom?
[21:47] <axiom> no, just regular axiom
[21:48] <axiom> know anything about getting flash sound working?  So many pages are tellling me conflicting things
[21:48] <georg> yesterday i migrated my amarok 1.4 (backport) to 2xxx
[21:48] <amichair> is there some way to get konversation to respect the desktop theme colors?
[21:48] <axiom> I swear I had this working with esound for a bit, but then I couldn't get my surround to work
[21:48] <georg> is there something like similar artist?
[21:49] <axiom> now my surround works (with pulseaudio) but I can't get flash sound.
[21:49] <audi_a6> axiom do not worry!  I have epson printer-scanner  and one do not work in linux  And I use Windows when I need to use my printer!
[21:49] <audi_a6> Am I crazy?
[21:49] <axiom> ha, but I don't even get sound in my windows virtual machine
[21:50] <audi_a6> bye new sound-blaster-crad
[21:50] <axiom> maybe crazy.  sometimes I think I should just get windows and get a girlfriend..
[21:50] <audi_a6> *card
[21:50] <audi_a6> get a girl?   yes
[21:51] <audi_a6> get and push
[21:51] <axiom> they like it if pandora works
[21:52] <audi_a6> pandora  = panda?   grizzly?   beer?
[21:52] <axiom> no, the music service
[21:52] <axiom> they get very relaxed when listening to thier own station
[21:54] <audi_a6> just get girl  ---  girl good with and without music
[21:55] <axiom> but music lures them!
[21:55] <audi_a6> where can I get girl?
[21:55] <axiom> ha, you will probably have to leave the house
[21:56] <BluesKaj> !ot | audi_a6 , axiom
[21:56] <axiom> ok, thanks for the notice, really I would like help getting sound in flash here
[21:56]  * BluesKaj appoints himself as the OT cop
[21:57] <audi_a6> ubottu sorry bot  but girls is good
[21:57] <audi_a6> ubottu do you want girl?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> axiom, install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:57] <tsimpson> audi_a6: stop it
[21:58] <axiom> BluesKaj: yeah, but that is not 64-bit, is is?
[21:58] <audi_a6> ok :-(
[21:58] <RiotingPacifist> BluesKaj: are you sure, I always found flash worked better with 64bit alpha than the wrapper
[21:58] <georg> ubottu do you want a 64 bit girl?
[21:59] <axiom> er... I mean flash works fine, I just have no sound
[21:59] <BluesKaj> axiom, it will be if you use if your sources.list
[22:00] <HeaVenGh0st> how to get xbuntu on ubuntu 9.04
[22:00] <BluesKaj> RiotingPacifist, i just use the canonical partners and medibuntu repos
[22:00] <tsimpson> HeaVenGh0st: install the package "xubuntu-desktop"
[22:00] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: how?
[22:00] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[22:01] <tsimpson> HeaVenGh0st: with the package manager, synaptic, adept or kpackagekit, whichever you have installed
[22:01] <axiom> BluesKaj: ok, done that, restarted FF, still no sound.  about:plugins tells me I have "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42"
[22:01] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: i cant login into my ubuntu, at the dos prompt of ubuntu
[22:01] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: do you have sound normally?
[22:01] <axiom> yes
[22:01] <axiom> in Amarok
[22:02] <axiom> and Kaffeine
[22:02] <tsimpson> HeaVenGh0st: then use apt-get, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[22:02] <axiom> not in miro though
[22:02] <axiom> or any gnome app really
[22:02] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: speaker-test?
[22:03] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: it says "-bash: /dev/null: Permission Denied
[22:03] <axiom> that gives no sound at the moment..
[22:04] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: speaker-test is testing alsa directly :s, does it give you an error or just no sound?
[22:05] <axiom> no error, just no sound.  hmm.. no wamarok doesn't work either..
[22:05] <BluesKaj> axiom,  sorry to hear that...i gave up on ff and now use google-chrome
[22:05] <axiom> well, that would be fine, but I never got flash to work there
[22:05] <tsimpson> HeaVenGh0st: what is the output of "ls -l /dev/null" ?
[22:05] <BluesKaj> check your alsamixer levels
[22:05] <HeaVenGh0st> what is this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:06] <iconmefisto> HeaVenGh0st: configures all packages that are unconfigured, eg when an upgrade was interrupted before completing
[22:07] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: check alsamixer for any mutes, quick solution is to rebot and see if it fixes your sound
[22:07] <axiom> BluesKaj: main appear to be at 0, raised that, but still no sound anywhere
[22:07] <HeaVenGh0st> iconmefisto: thanks mate!!
[22:07] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: i will let u know in a min i just ran dpkg
[22:07] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: make sure everything is full and nothing is MM (muted)
[22:07] <axiom> BluesKaj: am init6, back in a few minutes
[22:09] <BluesKaj> RiotingPacifist, full is not a good idea, 75% is plenty to drive the speaker amps to full power ...to high and you distort/overload the speaker amp inputs
[22:09] <BluesKaj> too high
[22:10] <RiotingPacifist> BluesKaj: K, will say 75% in the future, but this is ALSA it does take care of that, it's not like hes running oss
[22:11] <BluesKaj> the red in the alsa ctrls are there for a reason :)
[22:12] <Daugha|n> RiotingPacifist: Doesnt matter..Pushing too high output can burn your receiver.
[22:14] <axiom> well, sound works in flash now, but not in kaffeine.  feels like whack-a-mole here
[22:16] <RiotingPacifist> axiom: check your levels in alsamixer again
[22:16] <axiom> Master is at the top
[22:16] <BluesKaj> axiom, lookin system settings multimedia.Is pulseaudio installed?
[22:17] <axiom> yes
[22:17] <BluesKaj> test it
[22:17] <axiom> test makes a nice sound there
[22:17] <iconmefisto> BluesKaj: if your "speaker amps" can't handle 0dB inputs (which is what you get when alsamixer levels are 100%) then that's a problem with the "speaker amps". alsamixer doesn't amplify the signal at all
[22:17] <BluesKaj> ok what about your soundcard
[22:18] <axiom> er, what about my soundcard?
[22:18] <BluesKaj> test
[22:19] <axiom> Audigy SE [SB0570] (CA0106)) seems to work fine when I test
[22:19] <BluesKaj> 100% is 0db ?...you gotta be kidding, iconmefisto
[22:19] <BluesKaj> ok, then remove pulseaudio, you don't need it
[22:20] <Daugha|n> BluesKaj: 100% is 0db on the card, 100% is +5 at the headphone jack. Depends...
[22:20] <crimsun> 100% is meaningless, BTW
[22:20] <crimsun> the only thing that matters is the dB reported, and many hardware do that incorrectly
[22:20] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: ls -l /dev/null , i have got crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 2009-04-20 10:00 /dev/null
[22:21] <BluesKaj> crmsu it depends on soundcard gain , but usually 100% is too high
[22:21] <crimsun> BTW, if that happens [that your hw does it incorrectly], report a bug against linux so that it can be fixed
[22:23] <tsimpson> HeaVenGh0st: there is a solution here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16830 basically you edit /etc/rc.local and add "chmod 0666 /dev/null" before "exit 0"
[22:23] <RiotingPacifist> BluesKaj: 100% is always 0db gain for alsa
[22:24] <RiotingPacifist> if the speakers add gain after that it's their perogative
[22:25] <BluesKaj> alsa doesn't determine total soundcard gain ...I would be careful making such a general statement, RiotingPacifist
[22:27] <cjae> anyone catch my pastebin?
[22:27] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: just restarted the system.. let c if it gonna make any difference
[22:27] <crimsun> BluesKaj: RiotingPacifist is correct in the strict sense that 0 dB /should/ correspond to "100%" for alsa drivers.
[22:27] <crimsun> that's precisely why I mentioned that if they /don't/ correspond, one needs to file a bug so that we can fix it.
[22:28] <RiotingPacifist> crimsun: 0db gain, it's relative if the mp3 is playing at 1db then the output will be 1db
[22:28] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: u r a star..it works
[22:28] <crimsun> RiotingPacifist: whatever the card reports as 0 dB should be honored.
[22:28] <RiotingPacifist> cjae: nope
[22:28] <crimsun> RiotingPacifist: yes, of course that doesn't affect the actual file
[22:29] <HeaVenGh0st> tsimpson: my resolution is smaller than the actuall size of my lcd
[22:29] <HeaVenGh0st> any help in this regard?
[22:30] <cjae> RiotingPacifist: http://pastebin.com/m6b70f526
[22:30] <RiotingPacifist> crimsun: your right, i picked the wrong end of the scale to apply the "gain" to
[22:32] <BluesKaj> well, if you wish burn your music at 100%....it will be interesting to hear the results :)
[22:32] <HeaVenGh0st> My resolution is smaller than the actuall size of my lcd
[22:32] <HeaVenGh0st> ubuntu 9.04
[22:32] <axiom> BluesKaj: thanks for your help, I think I have audio in both kaffine and flash now :)
[22:32] <HeaVenGh0st> !xfce
[22:33] <Daugha|n> WHats the command to run a ram test?
[22:34] <iconmefisto> Daugha|n: you can run memtest from the grub boot menu
[22:34] <BluesKaj> axiom, you're welcome:)
[22:34] <RiotingPacifist> cjae: sorry i got no idea whats wrong, basically check the permisions on devices is all i can recomend
[22:36] <Daugha|n> iconmefisto: I was hoping there waqs a way t do so wirthout rebooting the system, or does it require no load to run properly?
[22:38] <HeaVenGh0st> "Error: Brokencount>0" unmet dependencies......... could anybody help me?
[22:38] <cjae> !gdebi
[22:38] <cjae> !info gdebi
[22:38] <RiotingPacifist> Daugha|n: There may be a tool that can test some of your mem but the only way to properly test it is without an OS running so from grub
[22:38] <cjae> what is the kde equal?
[22:39] <HeaVenGh0st> "Error: Brokencount>0" unmet dependencies......... could anybody help me?
[22:39] <cjae> of gdebi
[22:39] <RiotingPacifist> cjae:  gdebi-kde
[22:39] <Daugha|n> RiotingPacifist: Can you tell I am new?? =)
[22:39] <cjae> ahh
[22:39] <cjae> thanks
[22:39]  * cjae appologizes for enter punctuation 
[22:40] <HeaVenGh0st> "Error: Brokencount>0" unmet dependencies......... could anybody help me?
[22:40] <iconmefisto> Daugha|n: "a truly comprehensive memory test program must take over the entire RAM space, and be as small as possible, in order to thoroughly test the whole memory." from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memtest86%2B
[22:41] <RiotingPacifist> Daugha|n: not really it's not the kind of thing youd know unless youd run into memory problems before
[22:41] <dan__> evening folks.  can I ask a horribly retarded question?
[22:41] <HeaVenGh0st> "Error: Brokencount>0" unmet dependencies......... could anybody help me?
[22:42] <HeaVenGh0st> "Error: Brokencount>0" unmet dependencies......... anybody have enough knowledge to answer this
[22:42] <RiotingPacifist> HeaVenGh0st: run sudo aptitude that might offer a fix
[22:43] <HeaVenGh0st> RiotingPacifist: i will try
[22:44] <dan__> i'm trying to install the kubuntu netbook remix on my dell mini 10...  the OS works fine, but I can't connect, either wired or wireless and if I can't connect I can't download and install the drivers for the horrible broadcom network cards.  any ideas where I can download it from and how I can install it?
[22:45] <dan__> the windows box is working and connecting fine on the end of the same network cable
[22:46] <BluesKaj> dan__, your eth0 /wired card is probly different then the wifi one ...do a lspci to find which is which
[22:46] <Daugha|n> RiotingPacifist: I have, but always in windows before, and I've never run across a windows app that will run a memtest before OS boot. Still getting used to linux.=) Anyone familar with ntfsprogs? Im needing help with syntax for a command.
[22:46] <chosig> I'm new to KDE, but well versed in Linux... but in Kmail, how do I specify from which mail adress i want to send a mail?
[22:47] <meowbuntu> hi all i have a problem i need to edit the boot infomation where is fstab in grub 2
[22:48] <Daugha|n> meowbuntu: /etc/fstab
[22:48] <meowbuntu> thanks
[22:49] <RiotingPacifist> chosig: either pick an identity or message> send file via, or the mail icon that has an arrow on it
[22:49] <dan__> Blueskaj, sorry, I'm pretty new to linux.  how do I do that?
[22:49] <Daugha|n> dan__: lspci | grep wlan
[22:49] <Daugha|n> If I remember correctly.
[22:50] <meowbuntu> also i need the uuid of all my partitions
[22:50] <HeaVenGh0st> !tty
[22:50] <chashall> meowbuntu, this may help http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[22:51] <BluesKaj> dan__,click on the kmenu ,system ,open the konsole , type lspci at the prompt
[22:51] <chashall> has anyone worked with pysdm package?
[22:51] <dan__> done.  w/lan is a broadcom, ethernet is a realtek
[22:52] <Daugha|n> dan__: What ya trying to get done>
[22:52] <dan__> i just wanna get this thing connected
[22:53] <Daugha|n> dan__: Care to be more specific?
[22:53] <chashall> maco, you around?
[22:53] <dan__> okay.  everytime I try to load the w.lan drivers, it tries to download, and for somereason, it won't connect wired
[22:54] <BluesKaj> dan__, ethernet is your wired connection,, wlan is wifi
[22:54] <dan__> fails everytime
[22:54] <HeaVenGh0st> my ubuntu is saying 7 broken packages?
[22:54] <HeaVenGh0st> how could i fix that
[22:55] <Daugha|n> HeaVenGh0st: synaptics has a filter for broken, use it to define wich packages need help.
[22:56] <Daugha|n> dan__: is eth0 plugged in?
[22:56] <dan__> i know.  I assumed that they would be from the same manufacturer, but no.  still, everytime I plug in a cable it fails to get a network address, which is odd - wouldn't appear to be managing the auto DHCP, and obviously wireless appears to be impossible sans drivers
[22:56] <dan__> not at the moment, it's plugged in to my windows box
[22:56] <HeaVenGh0st> Daugha|n: what is the command again?
[22:57] <Daugha|n> HeaVenGh0st: I said synaptics, I never remember the cli command to repair packages.  SOmething like dpkg -a, but there;s more to it.
[22:57] <Daugha|n> dan__: You on a laptop?
[22:58] <HeaVenGh0st> yes
[22:58] <dan__> well, the install will be on my mini ten, currently I'm on my win7 desktop
[22:58] <Daugha|n> dan__: Ok, you havent installed on the mini yet?
[22:59] <Daugha|n> dan__: The OS, that is.
[22:59] <Daugha|n> HeaVenGh0st: From term, hit the up arrow, and you shoud find the command, if you avent closed term since you ran the command.
[22:59] <dan__> it was just a second ago, currently got jolicloud back on it so I can shift out my files
[23:00] <HeaVenGh0st> hmm Daugha|n
[23:00] <Daugha|n> HeaVenGh0st: term==terminal==konsole  All the same
[23:01] <HeaVenGh0st> Daugha|n alright cheers
[23:01] <Daugha|n> dan__: Does the mini connect via wlan right now?
[23:01] <dan__> yep
[23:01] <chosig> RiotingPacifist: aah found out how... MEssage > send via...
[23:02] <Daugha|n> dan__: Are you using the netbook remix for install?
[23:02] <e_t_> HeaVenGh0st: "sudo apt-get -f install" is the command, I think.
[23:03] <dan__> yep.  mostly because it looks so shiny.  I am using unetbootin to istall of a usb flash drive, though, if that makes any difference.  certainly means I can't point the pakcage manager at it to get the drivers fom there
[23:03] <Daugha|n> dan__: And how are you trying to install?
[23:03] <HeaVenGh0st> e_t_: thanks man going to try now
[23:03] <Daugha|n> OK.....
[23:04] <Daugha|n> dan__: Never dealt with unetbootin....I use livecd or lanboot myself.
[23:04] <iconmefisto> HeaVenGh0st: you could also try sudo aptitude -f install  rather than apt-get. aptitude is better at analyzing and fixing problems
[23:05] <tcarter> how do i uninstall ubuntu 9.04 so i can install windows 7 and the reinstall ubuntu 9.04 for dual boot system?
[23:05] <dan__> far as I can tell, it just puts a bytecopy of the .iso an the pen drive
[23:05] <HeaVenGh0st> iconmefisto: wow u guys are such helpful dudes...
[23:06] <dan__> i'd install the dell-specific ubuntu moblin remix, but the interface is grim.
[23:06] <Daugha|n> dan__: Yeah, thats y understanding as well.....once you install., itrefuses to connect via eth0?
[23:06] <dan__> yup
[23:06] <James147> tcarter: you just need to formate the disk to "uninstall" ubuntu... make sure you back up any data you want to keep first
[23:06] <Daugha|n> You usng kubuntu or ubuntu install?
[23:07] <dan__> won't pick up a network address, and like a retard, can't remember what my settings are, and they appear impossible to find under win7
[23:07] <tcarter> james147> what command should i run to do that
[23:08] <Daugha|n> dan__: Go inti the router config page,and that will tell you your subnet....And, wired, from left to right is 1,2,3,4, usually. That sould elp you get your local IP.
[23:08] <tcarter> james147: what command should i run to do that
[23:08] <dan__> nope, i lie, I can find my ip settings
[23:08] <e_t_> dan__: in Windows, you can open a cmd window and type "ifconfig /all"
[23:08] <dan__> yep, just done it
[23:09] <chashall> tcarter, take a look at this http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[23:09] <chosig> now i remember why i don't use kde (no offense) but it's more unstable than windows...
[23:10] <HeaVenGh0st> have we got any virus issues in Ubuntu?
[23:10] <chosig> Absolute clean install, Kontact is only thing configured, if you close main window while writing a mail you get seg fault
[23:11] <chosig> note word /unstable/ :P
[23:11] <chashall> in 10 years i havent had a virus in linux if that tells you anything
[23:11] <dan__> right, sweet, I'll try to get that thing connected in the morning
[23:11] <James147> tcarter: You can do it when your installing windows. Just tell it to reformat the disk when your at the partition slection part of the installer (I would create two partitions when your there anyway, to save you having to shrink the volume later if you want to install kubuntu again)
[23:11] <maco> HeaVenGh0st: if you install .debs from random people, anything could be inside them. but no, there are no known viruses in the wild right now that could affect your system
[23:11] <chashall> hey maco your back
[23:11] <dan__> thanks guys.  have a good evening
[23:11] <chosig> Virus' are rare, root kits is another matter
[23:11] <HeaVenGh0st> !debs
[23:11] <tcarter> chashhall: that link assumes that i either have a clean system or that windows is already installed
[23:12] <maco> chashall: yeah im kinda wobbling between naptime and chores-time
[23:12] <HeaVenGh0st> what are debs?
[23:12] <maco> HeaVenGh0st: .debs are like Setup.exe's
[23:12] <chosig> maco: dissconnect brain, nap while choring :P
[23:12] <chashall> i had a few questions or suggestions to ask
[23:12] <chashall> for
[23:12] <tcarter> james147: ubuntu will not recognize my windows disk at startup
[23:13] <chashall> if you have time
[23:13] <James147> tcarter: its not ubuntu that looks for the disk at start up, its the bios, make sure you need to configure your bios to boot from cd first
[23:14] <cjae> how do I apply settings of one folder to all folders in dolphin?
[23:14]  * HeaVenGh0st Sounds good to me about virus's
[23:14] <tcarter> james147: i have done this and have tried two different windows 7 disks (both brand new) and it will not catch it....any other cd will
[23:15] <cjae> figured out
[23:15] <HeaVenGh0st> which is better Xubuntu vs Ubuntu?
[23:16] <maco> HeaVenGh0st: thats not answerable. that's preference.
[23:16] <HeaVenGh0st> 256mb Ram 800mHz? now what do u reckon?
[23:16] <HeaVenGh0st> maco?
[23:17] <maco> xubuntu probably
[23:17] <maco> ubuntu wasnt very fast when i had only 192mb ram
[23:17] <iconmefisto> HeaVenGh0st: xubuntu is probably more suitable for an underpowered machine. it will run more smoothly
[23:17] <maco> so i dont recon itd be very fast on 256 either
[23:17] <James147> tcarter: hmm, sounds like a problem with the disk if others are reconised but that is less likly if you have tryed two
[23:18] <HeaVenGh0st> maco: any solution for not getting full resolution size screen on my laptop lcd?
[23:18] <Kolia> !ask |chashall
[23:18] <tcarter> james147: can i just reformat the hrdisk...easily?
[23:18] <maco> chashall: oh i didnt realise you were talking to me. highlight me please
[23:19] <maco> chashall: what's up?
[23:19] <chashall> ubottu, ok
[23:19] <chashall> maco i tried a fresh install of 10.04, it went badly on reboot, it kept power cycling my hard drive
[23:19] <James147> tcarter: you can, but I don't see why it would help your problem. If you can't boot the windows install disk now reformatting wouldn't help at all.
[23:19] <meowbuntu> how can i mount partitions from live cd
[23:20] <maco> chashall: 10.04 stuff goes in #ubuntu+1
[23:20] <maco> chashall: and umm.... given the stompy stompy my flatmate was doing this afternoon when he came home from work...
[23:20] <tcarter> james147: any reccomendations?
[23:20] <chashall> so i installed 9.1 and it seems to be running stable but want to run the upgrade but i failed to write the instructions down last night, would you please give them to me again?
[23:20] <chashall> ok
[23:20] <maco> chashall: apparently someone didn't test something they uploaded and so if you have nvidia drivers...booting doesnt work
[23:21] <chashall> maco ati
[23:21] <maco> i dont know how ati will do
[23:21] <maco> he just said "non-free hardware"
[23:21] <maco> so that'd be ati, nvidia, broadcom
[23:21] <James147> tcarter: Your sure it is trying to boot from cd/dvd roms first?
[23:21] <maco> in his case, either nvidia or broadcom was the issue
[23:21] <chashall> it booted and installed but on reboot the hard drive started clicking
[23:22] <ilumi> clicking harddrive means it probably went bad
[23:22] <chashall> booted mint and the same hard drive works fine so i installed 9.1 and here i be
[23:22] <chashall> the drive is fine its just the install went hay wire
[23:22] <iconmefisto> chashall: btw, it's 9.10 as in 2009, october
[23:23] <tcarter> james147: yes. if i put my ubuntu disk or any other it boots straight from there...but both windows cd's are not even given a second thought....and i have alreadyu loaded 1 machine from one oif the disks
[23:23] <chashall> maco should we switch to +1?
[23:23] <maco> yeah probably
[23:23] <chashall> ok ill switch
[23:24] <James147> tcarter: One thorught is it a cd rom or dvd rom you are useing?
[23:24] <tcarter> james147: cdrom
[23:24] <James147> tcarter: I beleave that windows 7 comes on a dvd so your cdrom wont beable to read it
[23:25] <HeaVenGh0st> !X
[23:25] <James147> tcarter: need to get a dvd rom to install 7
[23:25] <tcarter> james147: that is probably it then.....thank you for the insight
[23:25] <James147> tcarter: Noproblem
[23:28] <HeaVenGh0st> DO i need to restart after installing xubuntu?
[23:29] <James147> HeaVenGh0st: you need to restart from the live cd inorder to boot into it but you can continue to work from the live cd if you want
[23:30] <RiotingPacifist> just want to check this is a kdm bug before i file it, basically if i boot to a kernel without ipv6 support i get the following in kdm.log http://pastebin.com/d5d31271c
[23:30] <HeaVenGh0st> ohh sorry.. James147 xubuntu from ubuntu.. i have already got ubuntu
[23:31] <James147> HeaVenGh0st: No, you just need to logout and change the session you loginto
[23:31] <dawgy_> anybody here have any success with compiling qgis (src or svn)? I keep getting a sip error and I'm looking for a workaround
[23:32] <HeaVenGh0st> James147: thanks.. could you help me to resize the resolution, as i m not getting full resolution in my laptop LCD
[23:33] <jb0694> is kpackage program you use to install software on kubuntu or should i use something else?
[23:33] <iconmefisto> jb0694: kpackagekit
[23:33] <James147> jb0694: kpackagekit or you can use what ever you want to
[23:34] <jb0694> what's the diff between kpakcage and kpackagekit?
[23:35] <James147> HeaVenGh0st: Check in the settings you should beable to do it from there if not you might need to edit your xorg.conf file can't really help with that though
[23:35] <HeaVenGh0st> James147 thanks anyway
[23:35] <HeaVenGh0st> !x
[23:36] <James147> jb0694: I think kpackage was for kde 3.5 kpackagekit is the new one for 4.x
[23:39] <alumno00> Hallo. Can any tell me where can I find Kubuntu 9.10 manuals? Thanks
[23:40] <jb0694> i just installed kpackagekit but how do i launch it?
[23:40] <James147> jb0694: from the menu or typing "kpackagekit" in a terminal
[23:41] <guitar431> all your bases are belong to us
[23:43] <iconmefisto> alumno00: are you looking for a general usage guide for the entire system? or something more specific?
[23:44] <alumno00> General and specific. All available information. I've used ku 8.04, but now, I'd like to know new changes...
[23:45] <iconmefisto> alumno00: http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic
[23:45] <iconmefisto> alumno00: for more specific things, you'll have to be more specific :)
[23:46] <alumno00> Thanks. I'll read it and ask when finished (in a few days i hope). Thanks
[23:50] <jb0694> a little confused with kpackagekit... first off it appears to have exactly the same functionality as the add/remove software utility already bundled with the OS.  my problem is that i want to install a program from my flash drive using kpackage.  is this possible or is kpackage only used for installing programs from the online repository?
[23:50] <guitar431> someone set us up the bomb
[23:50] <jb0694> *kpackagekit
[23:50] <James147> jb0694: what format is the file you want to install in *.deb?
[23:54] <jb0694> James147: it's a program called matlab (similar to mathematica or maple)... the program is inside a folder which has a main script file that executes.  there are other files and subfolders that the script accesses (i'm guessing) to completely install the program
[23:55] <jb0694> it's not a standalone file that extracts or anything like that... its a script i run which installs the program
[23:55] <James147> jb0694: soulds like you either need to run an instliation script form inside the program (if it has one) or if you can run the program already just copy it to where you want it
[23:56] <James147> jb0694: just run the script in terminal, might need to make it excuatable first (chmod u+x /path/to/file)
[23:56] <guitar431> but the most important thing is that all your base are belong to us
[23:56] <jb0694> James147: i installed it already but it never showed up in the menu as an installed program... i'm trying to do this such that the OS sees this program as installed... no what i mean?
[23:57] <James147> can you run the program from terminal?
[23:57] <guitar431> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg
[23:58] <jb0694> i can run the program from terminal after it was installed
[23:58] <jb0694> but it never showed up in the menu as an installed program is the problem
[23:59] <iconmefisto> jb0694: so the only problem is it's not in the menu?
[23:59] <jb0694> right... i thought if i installed the program through kpackagekit, the program would show up in the menu
[23:59] <James147> Sounds like the installer dident create a menu entry, you can manually create one if you want to access it from the menu (right click kmenu >> menu editor >> new item >> ...)