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yofelhmpf, well, you're right14:32
nacho_Hi guys14:44
nacho_any idea why I get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl when building gedit in lucid?14:44
penguin42nacho_: It sounds like you need the dev package for openssl14:45
yofelnacho_: tried running 'sudo apt-get build-dep gedit'?14:46
penguin42nacho_: Try installing libssl-dev14:46
nacho_weird, we don't depend on libssl...14:46
nacho_maybe a new dependency in from python?14:46
dlublinkhi14:51
dlublinkok14:52
dlublinkKDE, Gnome, XFCE, they are desktop managers right ?14:52
JontheEchidnaDesktop Environments might be a bit more correct, but yes14:53
dlublinkOk14:54
dlublinkI am starting a page called "DesktopEnvironmentComparison" in wiki.ubuntu.com, I can't find a decent comprehensive, end user targeted comparison of the different desktops14:54
davidHey15:27
davidso I started my page, KDE users, why do you use KDE and not gnome ?15:27
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_Groo_hi/2 all15:29
_Groo_whos responsible for the libdirac change of name?15:29
_Groo_latest libdirac breaks gstreamer bad plugins15:30
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dlublinkHey15:33
setuidHow can I get rid of the red criss-cross hashlines in the popup notification messages?15:52
penguin42setuid: They're just some debug in at the moment I believe15:53
setuidLike when I increase screen brightness, or when a network connects/disconnects15:53
setuidGoing from karmic to lucid is a HUGE leap, not an incremental set of changes15:54
arandI saw that for a while, seems to have gone in recent updates for me.15:54
setuidAlmost nothing is compatible or the same15:54
setuidIn terms of launching/running apps, lucid is 20-30% slower too, I've noticed.15:54
setuidIs every package running in max debug mode?15:54
setuidEverything, from mc to ls to epiphany, is noticably slower15:55
nekohayoum.. I think there's a bunch of new bugs being filed on pitivi on launchpad due to ubuntu pulling out HAL... I can't triage them all alone, I'll need help :|15:56
setuidarand, Looks like they're back then, this build is current as of late last night15:57
arandI'll chack what updating does here15:58
arands/chack/check15:58
yofelokay... after todays updates I don't have a panel anymore in kde o.O15:58
pasjrDose any one know if I change the max_temp in Config Editor will the fan respond accordingly16:02
pasjrany one in here16:07
yofelpasjr: no idea16:09
pasjrok i c i can change max temp, so i was wondering if fan would react.  guess i will change and test it16:10
pasjryofel: do you know anything about acpitool -W16:11
yofelhm, seems like my ~/.kde folder is corrupt somewhere, I get a plasma-desktop without a panel, but everything looks fine if I use a fresh ~/.kde16:12
yofelpasjr: nope16:12
pasjrok thanks16:12
pasjris there any linux gurus in here16:13
setuidpasjr, plenty16:17
pasjrsetuid: if I change max_temp in Config Editor will my fan act accordingly ?16:18
setuidWhat is Config Editor?16:19
setuidNever heard of it... some GUI tool?16:19
pasjrok you dont know the answer to that., my other question is acpitool -W is it worth enableing all?16:20
setuidBeing a Linux guru (and I've been running/developing software for Linux for 15 years), does not mean I know every single function in every single desktop application.16:21
pasjryes it is a gui to control vairous settings16:21
pasjrI did not mean to offend you16:21
pasjrI to have been doing this way to long and yet to have all the answers16:22
setuidYou'll never have all the answers, ever.16:22
setuidI've been doing this a long time, and I'm still here asking questions, because it changes all the time16:22
pasjrI think if you sudo gconfig editor you will see what i am talking about not sure though16:23
setuidpasjr, Your second question, depends on what you want to wake up, but you can configure that in /etc/acpi/events16:23
setuidgconf-editor?16:23
pasjryes16:23
setuidWhat's the path to the member you're talking about?16:23
setuid/foo/bar/what?16:23
setuid/apps/computertemp/max_temp16:24
pasjryes16:24
setuidAssuming you have a daemon monitoring it, yes.16:24
setuidtpfand or simialr16:24
pasjrok thank you16:25
setuidAll gconf is, is a registry. If apps query that registry and behave according to its settings, it should work.16:25
setuidYou can try it... set the threshold low, and listen to your fan, then set it higher than that, and see if the fan stays off after you do something to raise the temp16:25
nysosymany new bugs with the today gcc updates?16:39
bjsniderbut the difference between gconf and the windows registry is that the settings are not at the superadmin level or hardware level16:48
* penguin42 would love to know what's giving the privelidge to add VMs using virtual machine manager and allocate space on his volume group as a normal user16:49
penguin42I guess I'm a member of libvertd group - seem sto be giving me a lot16:50
dupondjeis 10.04 also having CIFS issues? Now i'm having the issue that I get buffer underruns when playing music from a cifs network share16:55
BluesKajdupondje, could be , especially if you are running kde4.4RC...lots of crashes and dirs dying unexpectedly16:58
Spirits-Sightcan anyone help with getting synce to work so that when I connect my device to the computer it would show as a drive?16:59
setuidSpirits-Sight, what device?16:59
dupondjeBluesKaj: have issues under Karmic atm16:59
Spirits-Sightwin ce 616:59
dupondjejust wanted to know if its maby solved under Lucid16:59
BluesKajok16:59
Spirits-Sightsetuid: ^^^17:00
Spirits-Sightsetuid: its a form of PDA, it uses a custom shell over the win ce 6 but it would use normal activesync / win mobile center if on windows system17:01
Spirits-Sightcan anyone help with getting synce to work so that when I connect my device to the computer it would show as a drive? its a form of PDA, it uses a custom shell over the win ce 6 but it would use normal activesync / win mobile center if on windows system17:13
Spirits-Sightmy system did not do a correct upgrade for the alptha 2, what can I do to get it to do the distro update?17:29
penguin42how did it fail?17:32
setuidHow do I get rid of the 1px border around my desktop wallpaper in lucid?17:40
arandand choosing different soom levels doesn't change things?17:41
arandsetuid: s/soom/zoom/17:41
setuidarand, Nope, every style does the same for every wallpaper17:41
setuidEven no wallpaper17:41
setuidoh wait... killed off nautilus, and the border went away (until it auto-restarted)17:42
arandsetuid: hmm, "ubuntu-bug nautilus", I don't see anything like that on mine here..17:44
penguin42setuid: What is the size of your background image compared to your monitor?17:46
setuidpenguin42, identical, 1920x120017:47
penguin42hmm curious17:47
penguin42is it set to scale or centre or what?17:47
setuidAll of them did the same thing... 1px grey'ish border, until I killed off nautilus17:48
setuidthen it fixed itself17:48
penguin42hmm very odd17:48
setuidI'll see if it happens when I relog17:49
setuidProbably happens if nautilus starts up before the wm, or vice versa17:49
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setuidHow do I run ecryptfs-mount-private from the CLI to gain access to my home directory's contents?18:15
setuidI've mounted my old (damaged) drive, which was dm-crypt/LUKS, and I can see everything, except /home/setuid18:16
arandsetuid: there are no options in the mount command? mount.ecryptfs?18:17
setuidhrm, I think I found something18:18
setuidah, I found it... not intuitve though18:21
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* setuid blogs about the details18:53
bmmsetuid: did you file a bug on the 1px grayish border on the desktop? I just reproduced it by renaming something on my desktop19:21
setuidbmm, I think when nautilus refreshes, it paints that border19:25
setuidDoes it go away if you killall -9 nautilus?19:25
jonathonfit also goes if you do a nautilus -q19:26
bmmHavn't tried that yet, but I consider it a bug anyway :)19:26
jonathonfi think there has been a bug filed, read about it on the forums19:26
bmmjonathonf: which forum, I've been trying a few google queries, but can't find anything :(19:30
jonathonfubuntuforums.org19:30
jonathonfi'll try and find the thread, hang on19:31
jonathonfbmm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137946919:32
bmmjonathonf: that is the problem alright. Same thing here, does not seem to be linked to the graphics driver :)19:34
jonathonfbug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/50726319:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 507263 in nautilus "Light 1px border around desktop" [Low,Triaged]19:35
jonathonfjust about to do a quick "me too" on it19:35
bmmjonathonf: just did that myself, thanks for the help!19:37
jonathonfnp :)19:38
setuidarand, http://blog.gnu-designs.com/solved-howto-mount-an-external-encrypted-luks-volume-under-linux19:45
arandsetuid: nice, quite a bit of of hoop-jumping I see :)19:48
setuidarand, a bit19:48
setuidarand, I'm going to be doing even more hoop-jumping to get my data off of my Drobo19:48
setuidI had 1.2TB of data on it, upgraded the firmware on the physical unit (using their Windows tools), and it never booted my disk pack again. Data Robotics claims that's because I'm using Linux.19:49
setuidBut that Drobo had been rebooted hundreds of times over the last year, and never failed. The first boot after a firwmare upgrade, and it refuses to complete booting, holding 1.2TB of my data hostage19:49
arandhmm, and they jump on anything which will make you, not them, responsible for the lost data, how lovely...19:51
setuidExactly19:51
setuidApparently I'm just shit out of luck. They don't even partner with any data recovery firms to help recover the data. Their answer? You should have backed up your data to a second Drobo.19:52
jussi01setuid: please watch the language19:52
setuidjussi01, sorry19:52
setuidI'm going to be doing some low-level hackery on the disk pack, after I image it. I'm going to try to replace the previous firmware's header on each of the disks. When you upgrade the Drobo itself, it auto-upgrades the disk pack version too, to match.19:57
setuidSo you can't use a 1.3.5 disk pack in a 1.3.1 drobo19:57
ueu001Found a bug. I think that the problem comes from gnome-panel though Bug #50888020:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 508880 in vlc "vlc tray icon does not blend in with background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50888020:00
nysosymif i wanne join #ubuntu-dev empathy crashs, can anyone confirm this?20:13
_Groo_ubuntu gurus, latest libdirac breaks gstreamer bad plugins and consequently a lot of progs that depends on it20:14
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arand_Groo_: Report a bug ;)20:33
_Groo_arand: i did :)20:34
_Groo_arand: its attached to the fix release bug of the libdirac package20:34
_Groo_arand: im trying to reach jdstrand in ubuntu-hardened, but i guess hes of for the weekend20:35
dotblankhow far along is lucid?20:52
_Groo_dotblank: alpha220:53
xteejxHey guys, are nvidia drivers in place for Lucid? My performance is quite bad20:53
BUGabundoyeah performance wise it aint that big20:54
BUGabundo200fps with compiz speedeer20:55
BUGabundoused to be 30020:55
xteejxoh dear20:55
xteejxI'm screwed at 10 then..... I'll look into it20:55
BUGabundo1003 frames in 5.0 seconds with glxgears fullscreen20:56
BUGabundoxteejx: disable bsync?20:56
xteejxhuh??20:56
BUGabundo*vsync20:56
DanaGhmm, does kde4 handle multi-pointer X?22:05
DanaGwhat the heck happened to my kde4.4 panel and all that?22:21
DanaGIt's like it lost some of my settings.22:22
yofelDanaG: heh, here I lost my whole panel and a folder view widget (the widgets that were there from the beginning), I added them back by hand (though removing the ~.kde folder woks too)22:34
yofels/woks/works22:35
DanaGyeah, I did that.. but it wiped out all my other kde settings, too.22:35
yofelyeah, that's why I decided to add the panel back manually, less work in the end -.-22:35
DanaGgrr, plasma-desktop died, and krunner is not running.23:05
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/50893023:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 508930 in samba "CIFS mount is offline every x minutes/seconds" [Undecided,New]23:05
dupondjecan somebody try to reproduce in Lucid ?23:05
crimsunmaco: the actual conditions are plymouth+passphrase entry23:25
macocrimsun: oh ok23:25
chashallok maco you have a minute or 2?23:27
macoyeah23:27
chashallalright a couple of things i want to ask that arent lucid specific is that ok in this channel?23:27
macodepends what they are i guess23:28
macodid you have motu questions?23:28
chashalli want my ntfs partion showing and browsable before i do the upgrade, i have used pysdm before but cant seem to get it going23:29
chashallmaco and my other question has to do with were to import my pgp key so i can use it, it is also stored on the ntfs drive23:32
chashalland then i want to do the 10.04 upgrade to start work23:32
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chashallmaco i'll try you again when you have time bud. thanks for getting me started on this23:46
chashalllaters23:46
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