[00:00] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: try hitting tools add-ons and then go to the plug-in tab... from there see if there are multiple versions of either flash or java enabled... try disabling everything except for the two that you want to use and see if the problem persists
[00:00] <cwheeler> vlt yes you can export objets in files but i don't remeber exactly how
[00:01] <Dextronaught> yeah I got shockwave, disable them all except for flash and Java? ok
[00:02] <vlt> cwheeler: I could simply edit the svg/xml file to refactor the objects. But how to "embbed" the file then?
[00:02] <cwheeler> I've only exported objects which I used in Gimp but I'm sure there's a way to import them
[00:03] <iflema> semitones oooh. it was a slackware app... sorry its name sbootmgr theres an iso it seems also check out super gub disc
[00:03] <cwheeler> I used options on the inkscape menu
[00:03] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: see if the problem still exists when everything is disabled except the two you want to use
[00:07] <Dextronaught> Thunder_Drop, no fix
[00:07] <Dextronaught> still, whichever one opens first works
[00:09] <Andy14> hi there
[00:09] <SealedWithAKiss> Hey, I'm going to need a little help here. I'm a complete Linux novice, however I have been running Linux Ubuntu on a spare partition for a couple of years. Today I booted into Linux, and found that the kernel started in low graphics mode. This hasn't happened before. Can anybody help?
[00:09] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: well the only suggestion that I can give you is that I currently have java and shockwave flash running at the same time.  I do not think that your problem is from within linux but within firefox itself.  To eliminate the possiblity of it being a linux issue you could use a different browser and see if the problem still exists
[00:10] <Dextronaught> that's a good idea, thanks
[00:10] <Dextronaught> but my mic also performs strangely lol
[00:10] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: from without a browser?
[00:10] <Andy14> @SealedWithAKiss You are using Ubuntu for a couple of years and haven't convinced yourself of deinstalling Windows yet?
[00:10] <Dextronaught> I think it's a thing between using pulseaudio, alsa-base, jack, esound, and w/e
[00:11] <Dextronaught> no no no, I'm talking about, my mic acts strange on Skype and TeamSpeak
[00:11] <Dextronaught> it'll sound fine for about... 1 or 2 minutes, then it goes all static and jumpy when I talk
[00:11] <furicle> @SealedWithAKiss - Did you have the monitor on and connected when you booted up? Have you tried a quick reboot (or just restarted X/GDM) to see if it didn't see your monitor on boot?
[00:11] <Andy14> Just remove pulseaudio
[00:11] <sdwrage> ok I installed the ati flgrx drivers but now I try to run catalyst and it doesnt want to run AND I try to run aticonfig and get 'No Supported Adapters Detected"
[00:11] <Dextronaught> remove pulseaudio?
[00:11] <Dextronaught> and use what
[00:11] <SealedWithAKiss> Andy14, Windows supports many more applications than Linux.
[00:12] <Andy14> And?
[00:12] <Andy14> Wine?
[00:12] <daftykins> sdwrage: sounds like the fglrx driver isn't actually in use. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log plz
[00:12] <SealedWithAKiss> Andy14, when Linux can meet all of my needs, I wont need Windows any longer.
[00:12] <sdwrage> ok hold on
[00:12] <sdwrage> daftykins, ^
[00:12] <Andy14> I'm using Ubuntu for 3 months and then I realized that I don't need Windows anymore
[00:12] <Thunder_Drop> Dextronaught: pulseaudio is not used by default if I'm correct so uninstalling it will just force every application to use the default
[00:13] <Dextronaught> Andy14, remove pulseaudio and use what?
[00:13] <Andy14> alsa
[00:13] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:13] <Dextronaught> I'll try that
[00:13] <Andy14> Just sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[00:13] <Andy14> I had the same
[00:13] <Andy14> Then it should work
[00:13] <SealedWithAKiss> furicle, the monitor was on and connected. I have tried rebooting a number of times. The kernel isn't recognising my ATI graphics card. The drivers aren't loading.
[00:13] <Andy14> Just fine
[00:13] <FloodBot2> Andy14: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Andy14> :3
[00:13] <Thunder_Drop> Andy14: owned :)
[00:13] <actionParsnip__> yo yo yo
[00:14] <hspaans> Andy14: and how are you going to solve this issue in the future?
[00:14] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: check ati's site for the drivers.. you might find that ATI has not included your card in any compatible drivers for xorg 7.3
[00:14] <flow2fly> who is the soundcard expert now?
[00:14] <sdwrage> daftykins, www.pastebin.org/77450
[00:14] <flow2fly> i want to solve my card sometimes not recognized error
[00:15] <iflema> SealedWithAKiss how long since youve boot into linux..... can you remember what happened last time you where in there.... did you update.... install anything..?
[00:15] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: run: sudo lshw -C sound; lspci | grep -i audio     you can use the output to find guides
[00:15] <flow2fly> have this problem since 9.04
[00:15] <daftykins> sdwrage: yeah you see all the (II) lines still say VESA? we need to force it to use fglrx now via the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file - are you using Karmic? (9.10) this file won't exist if so
[00:15] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: do yuo have an audigy soundcard by any chance?
[00:15] <sdwrage> daftykins, I am not sure
[00:16] <sdwrage> how would I know?
[00:16] <Andy14> hda soundcards do not support microphones in linux at all, right? ^^
[00:16] <daftykins> sdwrage: open a terminal and do "cd /etc/X11/" then "ls" and look for xorg.conf
[00:16] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__:  no i have soundblaster usb
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> Andy14: mine does, i just dont use it
[00:16] <sdwrage> daftykins, yeah its there
[00:16] <flow2fly> Creative Technology, Ltd SoundBlaster MP3+
[00:16] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, I have the driver installation file on my desktop. It's a .run file - I can't re-install using the GUI because I can't complete the installation in low graphics mode. I can only see 50% of the installation wizard.
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: then: lsusb    will help
[00:16] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: webseach the ID
[00:17] <daftykins> sdwrage: ok hit alt+f2 then type "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:17] <SealedWithAKiss> iflema, I cannot remember it's been so long. It's been perhaps 6 months since I have booted into Linux.
[00:17] <daftykins> sdwrage: then pastebin that plz
[00:17] <flow2fly> lsusb thats what i did to tell you the name...
[00:17] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__:  you now i did lots of websearches before i asked in here
[00:17] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: you have to do it from cli.. however you should look at ATI's site and see if your card is depreciated to an older driver.. if it is then it will not work on any linux right now.. not until ati fixes their drivers.
[00:17] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: then you will have seen the 8 character hex ID, websearch that
[00:18] <flow2fly> you mean this 041e:3010 ?
[00:18] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: thats all i know, i only buy off the HCLand 100% of my hardware works out of the box
[00:18] <actionParsnip__> flow2fly: yes, find that
[00:18] <iflema> SealedWithAKiss are you on this computer now?
[00:18] <flow2fly> thing is it does work
[00:18] <flow2fly> but sometimes not
[00:19] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, I have attempted a CLI installation. I double-click the .run file but the installation wont run unless I'm running it as a SU. I don't know how to execute a .run file from the command line.
[00:19] <flow2fly> sometimes i can see it on lsusb but not for example with cat /proc/asound/cards
[00:19] <SealedWithAKiss> iflema, I'm in Linux now in low graphics mode.
[00:19] <furicle> @SealedWithAKiss - you may want to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting - Also note you can move a window past the edge of your desktop by holding down alt then clicking and dragging the window, so you can get down to the 'ok' buttons etc
[00:19] <daftykins> SealedWithAKiss: "sudo chmod +x blah.run" then "./blah.run"
[00:19] <mikekelly> what's the easiest way to monitor the network traffic for a particular process?
[00:19] <mikekelly> can I do that with wireshark?
[00:19] <sdwrage> daftykins, www.pastebin.com/77459
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !info ntop
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> ntop does so much stuff.. i cant understand it all. :P
[00:20] <jgcampbell300> is there a command to reset all the update information to defaults or original
[00:20] <daftykins> sdwrage: it says it's expired
[00:20] <sdwrage> I dont even understand what that means
[00:20] <actionParsnip__> jgcampbell300: define"update information"
[00:20] <daftykins> sdwrage: nah the pastebin.com site says your paste expired, please try again
[00:20] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: you also have to stop the gui.. so CTRL+ALT+F2 and log in.. then sudo service gdm stop ... then cd ~/Desktop .. if that is where your file is.. then.. sudo ./<filename.run>
[00:20] <sdwrage> oh I see
[00:20] <sdwrage> hold on
[00:21] <sdwrage>  daftykins, www.pastebin.org/77459
[00:21] <Izinucs> SealedWithAKiss: but you should first look in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and see if there is a driver there waiting to activate.
[00:21] <edomeda> does anyone know of an app that will download album cover art for music and put the files in the directories?  (Already using rhythmbox as player but it doesn't find them all and has no way to manually set covers inside player)
[00:21] <daftykins> sdwrage: your paste # isn't changing, is copy+paste into IRC working?
[00:22] <sdwrage> daftykins, I accidently did .com on first one
[00:22] <flow2fly> actionParsnip__: I really want to know where exactly I can post the bug to someone who really nows this kind of stuff
[00:22] <sdwrage> this is .org
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> when i hit update manager it tells me some of the items can not be reached as if my network is down or it has the wrong info
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> my network is not down
[00:22] <daftykins> sdwrage: ah yeah sorry :) wasn't paying attention
[00:22] <sdwrage> daftykins, np
[00:22] <actionParsnip__> !bug | flow2fly
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> edomeda: i think you can drag and drop album covers if you have them
[00:22] <jgcampbell300> so i would think it has the wrong information, if i were to reset it to defaults maybe it would have the right info
[00:23] <daftykins> sdwrage: yeah you see where it says vesa in speech marks? that's what we want to change. so first, open a terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" to make a backup.
[00:23] <sdwrage> ok
[00:23] <OerHeks> jgcampbell300 try an other source server
[00:23] <SealedWithAKiss> Izinucs, daftykins, furicle, I have completed the installation. Thank for pointing out that I could use Alt to move the application into view, and also for letting me know how to run the installation file. I'm going to reboot now to see whether the problem is corrected.
[00:23] <jgcampbell300> ok
[00:23] <sdwrage> daftykins, done
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: so if the GUI (X) doesn't work once we try what i'm gonna suggest, write down to login at the command line (ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 give you 6 login screens etc)
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore the config, then "sudo shutdown -r 0" to reboot
[00:24] <daftykins> but that's only if things go bad :D
[00:24] <jgcampbell300> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:24] <edomeda> bastid_raZor, yeah, but looking for something where I can do more then one at a time.  What I miss is amarok's album cover manager. :-/
[00:24] <sdwrage> daftykins, yeah im on my windows box right now running vmware ubuntu
[00:24] <daftykins> sdwrage: so with the above written down, use the gedit window to delete 'vesa' within the "" and type it so it reads fglrx instead
[00:25] <sdwrage> ok
[00:25] <kinja-sheep> jgcampbell300: Turn off the CD option in Software Sources.
[00:25] <daftykins> sdwrage: ooooh i see, you can't use your real graphics card from a VM then i'm afraid!
[00:25] <edomeda> bastid_raZor, really looking for some app/script to run though and grab them all at once
[00:25] <sdwrage> daftykins, oh really? that sucks
[00:25] <sdwrage> so how can I increase screen resolution?
[00:25] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you can install te guest additions to get more than 800x600 res
[00:25] <jgcampbell300> thanks
[00:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. Anyone have a recommendation please for an mp3 tagging app? And, please, not audacity. Thanks.
[00:26] <sdwrage> hrm
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> edomeda: none that i know of.. one of the reasons i stopped using rhythmbox :\
[00:26] <daftykins> sdwrage: which version of ubuntu have you got in the VM? try "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-vmware" and let me know what the output is
[00:26] <edomeda> gmachine_24, easytag
[00:26] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you can add a little more to get some basic 3d accelleration but basically you wont get 3d acceleration
[00:26] <sdwrage> daftykins, couldnt find xorg-driver-vmware
[00:26] <gmachine_24> edomeda, I was looking at that.
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, does good job, just hard to figure out at first
[00:27]  * WhiteCrow1 hi guys
[00:27] <Rubbberducky> What is the black/grey theme bundled with ubuntu 9.1 called?  Will it work on ubuntu studio?
[00:27] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, I only use it for web developement but want it full screen really
[00:27] <sdwrage> 1680 x 1050
[00:27] <gmachine_24> edomeda, it seemed there was some prob d/l it from sourceforge
[00:27] <sdwrage> I think thats the res I need
[00:27] <daftykins> ah try again with xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, it's in repos
[00:27] <daftykins> sdwrage: ^
[00:27] <edomeda> gmachine_24, just apt-get install easytag
[00:27] <gmachine_24> so I guess they should have called it hard tag
[00:27] <gmachine_24> ok
[00:28] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: thats fine, mount the guest additions cd and run the script relevant to your ubuntu's arcitecture
[00:28] <iflema> Rubberducky dust... dust should be default.
[00:28] <trism> gmachine_24: I like picard for auto tagging and kid3 for manual edits
[00:28] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, guest additions cd?
[00:28] <SealedWithAKiss> Thanks to those who helped - everything is functioning correctly now!
[00:29] <WhiteCrow1> i want to know how can i connect nokia 5800 wit usb cable on ubuntu 9.10 ? any one can help me
[00:29] <sdwrage> daftykins, says its newest version
[00:29] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: run the virtual system, then click the options at the top and you'll see the option
[00:29] <gmachine_24> trism, thanks.
[00:29] <daftykins> sdwrage: ok in the same gedit window change 'vesa' for 'vmware' and save and reboot
[00:29] <daftykins> sdwrage: so which ubuntu version and vmware version are you running then?
[00:30] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: then shutdown the box when its downloaded, mount the cd then boot it up andinstall. it will give the modules for the virtual graphics card
[00:30] <mikekelly> does anyone know how to observe a particular process with ntop?
[00:30] <gmachine_24> I have another ? I am at Starbux, connected to their wifi but I always have trouble staying connected .... anyone else have the same prob? Every other wireless connection is fine and I can connect using windows @ starbucks so.......
[00:30] <sdwrage> daftykins, vmware player 3.0 and Ubuntu 9.10
[00:30] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[00:31] <Rubbberducky> iflema,  Not the default, the darker one that comes with it... Its a darker grey I think.  I really like it.
[00:31] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, isnt thatfor virtualbox though?
[00:31] <daftykins> sdwrage: ah right. player is quite limited, consider the free ubuntu server for better support etc. though it's a little manky since they moved it to a web based interface
[00:31] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: sure
[00:31] <WhiteCrow1>  i want to know how can i connect nokia 5800 wit usb cable on ubuntu 9.10 ? any one can help me
[00:31] <actionParsnip__> sdwrage: you will need to use an xorg.conf file to get a higer res: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[00:31] <iflema> Rubberducky yeah dust... dust should be default. System / Preferences / Apperance
[00:31] <sdwrage> actionParsnip__, ill take a look... thx
[00:32] <Dextronaught> Andy14, I did as you told me, and after restarting my computer, I can no longer access my sound preferences
[00:32] <Dextronaught> there's no speaker at the top-right
[00:32] <Dextronaught> I can talk on mic, but I'm not sure if I can hear back, and I can't listen to music that I've downloaded
[00:33] <Dextronaught> and I did sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio and then sudo apt-get install alsa
[00:33] <Dextronaught> I don't have any sound at all on firefox
[00:34] <jgcampbell300> I have two HD's in one computer a 20g and an 80G ... the 20g is going bad and that is where ubuntu is at ... is there a way to tell linux to move its self to the 80G with out much involvement
[00:35] <Dextronaught> Andy14?
[00:36] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: what type soundcard do you have
[00:36] <Dextronaught> realtek
[00:36] <flow2fly> onboard?
[00:36] <Dextronaught> yes
[00:36] <Dextronaught> laptop
[00:36] <notk0> jgcampbell300, technically it is possible, you should set your 80 GB as master and do a cloning of the 20 gb, IDK how that is done (dd maybe? ) but I know it's possible
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  may be easier to just do a new instgall to the 80gb then recover/copy files from the 20 - if the 20 has some bad system files. it may be hard to track them down
[00:37] <flow2fly> what was the problem again?
[00:37] <Dextronaught> I uhh
[00:37] <flow2fly> card does not work
[00:37] <flow2fly> ?
[00:37] <Dextronaught> my mic on Skype and TeamSpeak
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  movimng the system over will also mean you need to tweak the uuiids and other stuff in some configs
[00:37] <Dextronaught> when I'd talk, it'd work for a minute or two
[00:37] <flow2fly> oh just your mic
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and then go static and choppy
[00:37] <Dextronaught> so... Andy14 told me he had the same problem before
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and removed pulseaudio
[00:37] <Dextronaught> and used just alsa
[00:38] <flow2fly> understand
[00:38] <Dextronaught> and it fixed it for him, and it kinda did for me
[00:38] <Dextronaught> I think the mic works, but I don't got sound, I can't even access my sound preferences now
[00:38] <flow2fly> do you have more than 1 soundcard?
[00:38] <Dextronaught> I doubt it.
[00:38] <jgcampbell300> hmm .. ok sounds like i should just do a fresh install of ubuntu ... but it would be handy to know how to in the future in case a fresh build is not acceptable
[00:38] <meganerd> pulse has its uses, but it can get in the way
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !backup | jgcampbell300
[00:39] <flow2fly> can you do cat /proc/asound/cards
[00:39] <dotblank> I love pulse. I absolutely love... best thing since potatoes
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  also check out the fsarchiver tool
[00:39] <dotblank> it*
[00:39] <flow2fly> by the way i do have sound problems too
[00:40] <Dextronaught> flow2fly, me? on terminal 'cat proc/asound/cards'
[00:40] <Dextronaught> like that?
[00:40] <flow2fly> exactly
[00:40] <Itaku> someone help me :s
[00:40] <Dextronaught> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[00:40] <Dextronaught>                       HDA Intel at 0xf0000000 irq 22
[00:40] <jgcampbell300> thanks again
[00:40] <dotblank> Dextronaught, thats not good
[00:40] <flow2fly> ok so you just have 1 card
[00:40] <Dextronaught> ):
[00:40] <Itaku> some body help me quick
[00:40] <Itaku> its urgent
[00:41] <Itaku> really urgent
[00:41] <flow2fly> dotblank: why?
[00:41] <dotblank> Dextronaught, can you do aplay -l
[00:41] <Dextronaught> ok, 1 sec
[00:41] <IdleOne> Itaku: try asking a question first
[00:41] <Itaku> someone help me
[00:41] <meganerd> dotblank: I have the opposite view, personally pulse has been a giant headache
[00:41] <dotblank> Itaku, is it a quick fix?
[00:41] <Itaku> i dont know
[00:41] <bazhang> Itaku, ask a question
[00:41] <flow2fly> g
[00:41] <Itaku> but my erectile disfunction is acting up
[00:41] <Itaku> any ideas?
[00:41] <meganerd> dotblank: I do look forward to it actually working properly and playing nice with others (like jack)
[00:41] <flow2fly> dotblank: can you tell why is it not good
[00:41] <IdleOne> bazhang: answered before I could :P
[00:42] <dotblank> flow2fly, irqs scare me
[00:42] <dotblank> XD
[00:42] <Dextronaught> lol
[00:42] <flow2fly> lol
[00:42] <meganerd> flow2fly: pulse will eventually be good, it is just early in it;s developement
[00:43] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: start alsamixer
[00:43] <spowers> is anyone successfully running lucid in a xen domU yet?
[00:43] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:43] <dotblank> Dextronaught, do you have a voice modem?
[00:43] <Dextronaught> uhh
[00:43] <flow2fly> see if the card is muted or something
[00:43] <Dextronaught> a voice modem.... mmm, Idk
[00:43] <IdleOne> !lucid | spowers
[00:43] <spowers> IdleOne: thanks
[00:43] <dotblank> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] weord... never seen that ever
[00:43] <Rubbberducky> Can someone on Ubuntu 9.1 check what the Black/Dark Grey Theme is that comes bundled with Ubuntu?  I believe if you go to Appearance and look at the themes its on the bottom right...
[00:44] <sybariten> Hey
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> hi
[00:44] <dotblank> you mean dust?
[00:44] <IdleOne> Rubbberducky: newwave ?
[00:44] <IdleOne> new Wave*
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> I think one of those is it...
[00:44] <Dextronaught> http://yfrog.com/2m01162010003p
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> lol
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> Let me search them!
[00:44] <Rubbberducky> Thanks!
[00:44] <Dextronaught> flow2fly, http://yfrog.com/2m01162010003p
[00:45] <sybariten> it just struck me; its never really possible to do a true install of a distro to SD card or USB memory right?
[00:45] <iflema> Rubberducky New Wave is bottom right for me
[00:45] <IdleOne> !usb | sybariten
[00:45] <IdleOne> sybariten: I think this is what you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[00:46] <dotblank> Dextronaught, so what was your problem.. cant hear audio?
[00:46] <Dextronaught> well
[00:46] <Dextronaught> before I had sound, but it acted strangely, but I did have it
[00:47] <sybariten> IdleOne: "persistent" method is a middle way, i think
[00:47] <Dextronaught> main problem was that my mic would work on Skype or TeamSpeak for a good mintue or two
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and then go static and choppy
[00:47] <dotblank> hmm.. bizare
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and somebody told me to remove pulseaudio
[00:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, persistent is the only way, and has the same functions
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and install alsa
[00:47] <Dextronaught> so I did, and restarted my pc
[00:47] <dotblank> Dextronaught, ok yea that was silly advice
[00:47] <Dextronaught> and now I don't got the speaker at the top-right like I did before
[00:48] <Dextronaught> well dotblank, that guy had had the same problem as I did
[00:48] <Dextronaught> and he said it fixed his problem
[00:48] <flow2fly> Dextronaught: are you sure you completely removed pulse?
[00:48] <Dextronaught> he also had the static mic, etc
[00:48] <dotblank> Dextronaught, he is right but I believe it causes alot more then it solves
[00:48] <Dextronaught> uhh, sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[00:48] <Dextronaught> ?
[00:48] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: i dont think its like a real install
[00:48] <buttons840> i just installed ubuntu on an older computer of mine; now that in install is finished the computer will turn on and post, but as soon as it begins booting from the disk the system powers down; so basically i get, turn on, post, turn off;    any ideas on what i can do to resolve this issue?
[00:49] <dotblank> Were you using skype with pulse?
[00:49] <flow2fly> when i did it before i went to the synaptic and removed everything with *pulse*
[00:49] <dotblank> the newer version
[00:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, usb drives use fat32, you cant format it to ext3/4, so there is no other way
[00:49] <Dextronaught> TeamSpeak 2 and TeamSpeak 3
[00:49] <flow2fly> i am not sure if this is the correct way but i worked
[00:49] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: oh, so the filesystem is the catch?
[00:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> sybariten, yes
[00:49] <sybariten> ah crap
[00:50] <dotblank> Dextronaught, the problem is that teamspeak is oss I believe
[00:50] <flow2fly> dotblank: but a least he should be able to get some music
[00:50] <dotblank> Dextronaught, have you tried starting teamspeak with padsp?
[00:50] <Dextronaught> no
[00:51] <Dextronaught> can I get that off synaptic?
[00:51] <dotblank> the reason he cant get music is because gstreamer is trying to use pulse most likely
[00:51] <dotblank> Dextronaught, its part of pulse
[00:51] <Crewsr3> How can I set up xchat to start up when the computer starts up but have in min in the sys tray
[00:52] <flow2fly> so remove gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[00:52] <dotblank> Dextronaught, if you type gstreamer-properties
[00:52] <Rubbberducky> It was new wave.  Thanks guys
[00:52] <dotblank> you can set it to alsa or oss
[00:52] <unop> Crewsr3, xchat --minimize=2
[00:52] <dotblank> or pulse
[00:53] <unop> Crewsr3,  it's all documented in the manpage
[00:53] <Dextronaught> ok
[00:53] <Crewsr3> unop, ok, I will look in the manpage
[00:53] <Dextronaught> dotblank, you're a miracle worker :D
[00:53] <flow2fly> dotblank: do you also have some tip for me? i have the issue that my usb sound card sometimes is not recognized
[00:54] <dotblank> setting it to alsa or oss should get your totem and other gstreamer apps working ewithout pulse
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. anyone noticed - if you let the pc sit for a while.. (like long enough for the screen saver to kick in, but it not kickingin) i move the mouse.. it dims then comes back. as if the screen/poqwer saver is kicking in once you move the mouse.
[00:54] <Dextronaught> still can't hear music though
[00:54] <buttons840> it's a real pleasure to install and os using floppies, when the only floppy drive you have is in a computer with no os :)
[00:54] <Dextronaught> I'ma try alsa
[00:54] <dotblank> flow2fly, is this with pulse or without
[00:54] <flow2fly> with pulse, fresh 9.10 installation
[00:54] <Gary20> i'm trying to manually install a firefox addon. i've located the extension folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/... but after that, how would i go about it? i had thought that this was like installing a plugin .so, just drag and drop.
[00:55] <dotblank> Dextronaught, because alsa locks down the sound card multiple playback streams are not support without the use of dmix. So you may have to close teamspeak in order to fix this
[00:55] <flow2fly> i had this problem also with 9.04
[00:55] <teadict> any idea of why an ASUS Eee 1201n keyboard doesn't respond on 9.10 booted from a pendrive?
[00:55] <Dextronaught> Ok.
[00:55] <dotblank> flow2fly, when you plugged it in have you seen if it tries to load the modules.. from the terminal type pacmd then list-modules
[00:56] <iflema> Dr_Willis not that but ive noticed ive selected no screensaver, no screen blanking and yet every 15min i get screen blanking....
[00:56] <flow2fly> dotblank: what to look for?
[00:57] <dotblank> another way is to killall pulseaudio and then run pulseaudio so you can get the stderr output in the terminal and then you can see any errors easily in realtime
[00:57] <RugeAcoustics> hi folks
[00:57] <buttons840> could the raid configuration in my computer be causing problems with my ubuntu install (as i mentioned above, i installed successfully, but upon first HDD boot, the system just shuts down)?
[00:57] <dotblank> flow2fly, something about the name of the device
[00:57] <RugeAcoustics> Would Ubuntu 9.10 run suitably with an onboard GFX?
[00:57] <buttons840> are RAID arrays a common source of trouble?
[00:57] <dotblank> flow2fly, modules are loaded and sorted by date. so if you just added the usb device it should be one of the last devices
[00:58] <domjohnson> How can i convert .flv to .mpeg with VLC?
[00:58] <flow2fly> alsa_card.usb-041e_USB_Audio-00
[00:58] <flow2fly> maybe this
[00:58] <dotblank> yes ok so pulse has loaded the module
[00:58] <norbi> hy, do you know any free software for hosting, like cpanel?
[00:58] <flow2fly> yes at the moment it works
[00:58] <dotblank> flow2fly, can you then run list-sinks
[00:58] <flow2fly> last start it did not work for example
[00:58] <dotblank> ok
[00:58] <flow2fly> it is completely random
[00:59] <dotblank> flow2fly, do you know of any associated eents when it does not?
[00:59] <flow2fly> eents?
[00:59] <flow2fly> events?
[00:59] <dotblank> flow2fly, it may be that the module did not properly unload when the device is removed
[00:59] <dotblank> events*
[01:00] <flow2fly> you mean i shut down my machine, then it does not unload?
[01:00] <dotblank> hmm
[01:00] <dotblank> So this usually happens at startup then
[01:00] <flow2fly> yeah
[01:00] <flow2fly> i can see it with lsusb though
[01:01] <dotblank> hmm... ok do you have a modified default.pa in ~/.pulse?
[01:01] <flow2fly> well no
[01:01] <flow2fly> what is this?
[01:01] <dotblank> it is a file pulse ues to load when it starts
[01:01] <flow2fly> ah
[01:01] <flow2fly> maybe my problem lies even deeper
[01:02] <dotblank> the system wide file is stored in /etc/pulse/default.pa
[01:02] <dotblank> it could be a problem when it starts.. but what you could do is write a script that unloads the module then reloads it
[01:02] <dotblank> make it a shortcut and call it "click here when it doesnt work"
[01:03] <flow2fly> but i cant even see the card in /proc/asound/cards
[01:03] <ritchje> Hello, My bass seems a bit to flat compared to Windows. Any ideas?
[01:03] <dotblank> ok then that problem has to deal with alsa and not pulse
[01:03] <flow2fly> so are you sure it is a pulseaudio problem
[01:03] <dotblank> flow2fly, if alsa cant see it then pulse cant see it
[01:03] <flow2fly> is pulse build on top of alsa?
[01:04] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes but it doesnt HAVE to use it. only if you want to use a local sound card.. (you could run sound over the network for instance or run jack)
[01:04] <flow2fly> sounds nice
[01:05] <flow2fly> but i have to look into alsa for my problem right?
[01:05] <dotblank> you may have to compile newer alsa-drivers or find a ppa for them
[01:05] <flow2fly> ppa?
[01:05] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes. I find the experts in #alsa to be extremely helpfull
[01:05] <dotblank> !ppa
[01:05] <Tuxguy> I installed ubuntu and my internet is extremely slow. If I reboot to Fedora, it is normal / fast. What gives?
[01:05] <teadict> any idea of why an ASUS Eee 1201n keyboard doesn't respond on 9.10 booted from an USB source?
[01:06] <flow2fly> but this might be an ubuntu problem?
[01:06] <dotblank> teadict, can you rephrase the question it was a bit confusing?
[01:06] <Pokoloko> Hello all :)
[01:06] <flow2fly> or you think it is better to ask the alsa guys
[01:06] <flow2fly> hi
[01:06] <dotblank> flow2fly, yes but it is most likely an alsa bug and if it has been fixed then ubuntu may not have it inside of its repos
[01:07] <dotblank> flow2fly, what I would is try compiling the alsa drivers from source and installing them. if you have issues #alsa should be able to help
[01:07] <Tuxguy> Also, I disabled ipv6 and the internet is extremely slow. 100ms to google or more
[01:07] <Pokoloko> I recently installed a version of the unspeakable operating system and it happily provided me with an mbr rootkit is there any way i can erase an mbr ?
[01:08] <flow2fly> this sounds complicated
[01:08] <dotblank> flow2fly, it is
[01:08] <flow2fly> :P
[01:08] <teadict> dotblank: I booted Ubuntu 9.10 on my new ASUS Eee 1201n using a pendrive (which holds the OS image) and the keyboard doesn't work
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: haven't done much testing yet but I'm pretty desoriented anyway
[01:09] <dotblank> teadict, hmm... it may have to do with the usb controller..
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  grub or the windows commands write a new mbr to the mbr. overwriting whatever ones are there.
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: I've doubted about the live cd being booted from USB too
[01:09] <dotblank> teadict, have to tried to enable ps/2 emulation in the bios?
[01:09] <teadict> dotblank: how would that help?
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: oh
[01:10] <dotblank> teadict, it would make your mouse and keyboard act like they are not usb devices
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: wait, no..
[01:10] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: thank you i will look into it further, if i encounter any difficulties i will return
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: the USB device is the pendrive, from which I'm booting karmic
[01:10] <dotblank> teadict, does it actually boot karmic
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: the keyboard not working is the one of my netbook asus 1201n
[01:10] <teadict> dotblank: yes it does
[01:11] <teadict> dotblank: the only thing not working is the netbook's keyboard
[01:11] <dotblank> teadict, does it let you use the keyboard during the boot loader?
[01:11] <sybariten> Supersaiyan_IV: according to this guide http://www.unnionline.com/blog/?p=93 it works allright to format a USB memory so the problem has to lie elsewhere.... either that or i'm misunderstanding.
[01:11] <Sonja> how do i mount my windows partition so i can browse My Documents?
[01:11] <teadict> dotblank: didn't try that.. but wait.. right now stupid W7 is applying some updates, I'll ping you when I'm rebooting
[01:11] <Tuxguy> Why is my internet slow in ubuntu but not fedora?
[01:12] <buttons840> how can i check the integrety of a usb install disk?
[01:12] <teadict> dotblank: I'll see if keyboard respond before launching X when I'm there
[01:12] <tarski> if i want to share internet between two ubuntu comps what should i do
[01:12] <flow2fly> Sonja: go to "places"
[01:12] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you give me info on your network and your configuration of your network devices.. IE output from ifconfig and netstat -rn
[01:12] <flow2fly> there you should find it
[01:12] <iflema> Sonja Places desktop menu, then click Home Folder... in the left pane the dive should be listed ready for i click mount
[01:13] <dotblank> Sonja if it does not let you it may be the windows partition was not cleanly unmounted
[01:13] <Sonja> thanks
[01:13] <Tuxguy> dotblank, that machine is toooo slow to get on irc with
[01:13] <adac> I geht this error when I try to start a certain python script: UnsupportedLibcVersionError: Libc 2.10.1 is unsupported, requires at least Libc 2.4 Is there no libc 2.4 available in ubuntu?
[01:14] <dotblank> Tuxguy, sounds really bad
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, > 200ms to google
[01:14] <MrKeuner> hello, I see in top that, for example, gnome-do application is in S mode. But the key combination to invoke gnome-do does not seem to work, what does that mean? Normally, in that case, I just kill the process and restart a new instance but wondering if something else can be done? What is really happening there?
[01:14] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you ping your gateway
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, but, i can reboot to fedora, and its normal speeds. I tried disabling ipv6, but it  didnt make a difference
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, trying
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> MrKeuner: S mode?
[01:14] <Tuxguy> dotblank, 0.6ms average
[01:14] <MrKeuner> Sleep mode
[01:15] <flow2fly> dotblank: how can i see the version number of alsa in my ubuntu?
[01:15] <dotblank> Tuxguy, so thats fast... when you ping google is it always 200ms or does it startout at 200ms then slowly go down
[01:15] <iflema> MrKeuner permissions maybe prefix with sudo
[01:15] <Tuxguy> dotblank, well, for the first 5 seconds or so it just hangs... then it starts pinning at 200ms and goes up
[01:16] <Tuxguy> dotblank, then it goes down to about 30-40 ms for a while... 'hangs' and then starts back
[01:16] <dotblank> Tuxguy, ok thats a bit wierd very wierd indeed..
[01:16] <meganerd> Tuxguy: what does "sudo lsof -i" return?
[01:16] <dotblank> flow2fly, um h/o I have to look at that
[01:16] <MrKeuner> iflema, could not get what you mean
[01:16] <iflema> MrKeuner sudo top
[01:17] <MrKeuner> iflema, ah that would show more information?
[01:17] <iflema> MrKeuner dont think so.... not sure... but full access
[01:17] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/versio
[01:17] <meganerd> MrKeuner: top just shows what is running on your system
[01:17] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/version
[01:17] <Tuxguy> meganerd, i dont have a way to paste it...
[01:18] <dotblank> Tuxguy, can you try pinging something other than google
[01:18] <meganerd> Tuxguy: doesn't matter, how many things are returned?
[01:18] <Sonja> is there an alternate battery bar option that shows the number of minutes left instead of just a battery icon?
[01:18] <flow2fly> 1.0.20.
[01:18] <meganerd> do any of them have the word torrent in them?
[01:18] <MrKeuner> meganerd, thought so, then how does an application become unresponsive and show as Sleep in top
[01:18] <jgcampbell300> speach/a.i. engines ... does ubuntu have anything like this ?
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, seems alsa is at 1.0.22
[01:19] <meganerd> MrKeuner: I usually use ps to find sleeping or zombies
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, cat /proc/asound/version
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, whoops wrong paste
[01:19] <meganerd> I use htop for easier readability, and atop to get more details (like disk IO)
[01:19] <dotblank> flow2fly, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download
[01:20] <MrKeuner> meganerd, but a sleeping app does not necessarily mean an app that should be killed
[01:20] <meganerd> MrKeuner: correct
[01:20] <Jasonrj> I'm trying to get my wireless working. I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:20] <flea> hi all, i am looking for 64bit libpcre.so.3  if someone would mind to share that file with me, much appreciated
[01:20] <dotblank> jgcampbell300, well none that really any good IMO
[01:20] <flow2fly> dotblank: i am looking at the changelogs
[01:20] <Sonja> !battery
[01:20] <Sonja> !battery-meter
[01:20] <git__> anyone here test windows xp ISO on qemu-kvm on Ubuntu 9.10?
[01:21] <dotblank> Sonja, if you hover over it with a mouse it should say
[01:21] <jgcampbell300> i c ... do you know of any promising projects i could look in on and see if i can contribute ?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> !find libpcre
[01:21] <dotblank> !ubottu
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> !find libpcre.so.3
[01:21] <flea> Dr_Willis, i do not use ubuntu, and cant find this shared lib in my distro :)
[01:21] <teadict> dotblank: I tried the famous acpi=off nolapic and the keyboard is working, lulz
[01:22] <dotblank> teadict, lulz indead
[01:22] <dotblank> indeed*
[01:22] <flea> i will accept any method if one cares to share
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> flea:  with linux you normally dont just copy .so files about.. Time to use your  disrtos pacakge manager system or source I guess
[01:22] <teadict> dotblank: works for live, once installed I can be sure of what it is (if it still doesn't work without the arguments)
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> flea:  or go to the ubuntu arvhive/deb sites and find one of those pacakges with  the files i guess
[01:22] <flea> Dr_Willis, ty, yes i am very aware, file plz
[01:23] <flea> Dr_Willis, wow u typed at least 10x more than /dcc send <file> would have been but honestly thanks anyhow
[01:23] <dotblank> flea can you not find that lib in 64bit...
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> flea:  youa re assuming i even can dcc.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> and i am on 64bit.
[01:24] <flea> i have spent time looking for it in gentoo and unable to, i am resorting to trying this with no ubuntu install around
[01:24] <flea> my .deb file is for 64bit ubuntu and this is a dep
[01:24] <flea> boxee is the application
[01:24] <jgcampbell300> ok so something easyer ... anyone know of a really great game for linux
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  'battle for wesnoth'
[01:25] <flow2fly> dotblank: i did not find my card in the changelogs between 1.0.20 and 1.0.22
[01:25] <dotblank> flea, im confused.. there are both 64 bit and 32 bit in repos... how are having issues?
[01:25] <flea> jgcampbell300, regnum-online
[01:25] <jgcampbell300> neet ill check it out ... thanks
[01:25] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: I have deleted the mbr partition on the drive in question but i cannot connect it to the rest of the hard drive
[01:25] <flow2fly> dotblank: and alsa guys seem to be all sleeping
[01:25] <flow2fly> nobody talks in #alsa
[01:25] <flea> dotblank,  sorry i didnt understand
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  the 'mbr' has a boot loader part. (where viruses hang out) and the definition of the drive layout. theres no 'mbr partition'
[01:26] <dotblank> flow2fly, sometimes it isnt in the changelogs.. but you did look so I don't blame you if you do not want to upgrade if you wont get any thing out of it.. you may have to submit a bug report...
[01:26] <dotblank> flow2fly, yea its a hit or miss.. but they are smart
[01:26] <flow2fly> dotblank: yes but this should go to ubuntu or to alsa?
[01:26] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: just found an 8m partition and deleted it then for safety
[01:26] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my wireless working? I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:27] <iflema> jgcampbell300 http://www.playdeb.net
[01:27] <flow2fly> dotblank: i think i will go to bed now and try contact alsa tomorrow
[01:27] <dotblank> flow2fly, because you are not running the latest alsa they may not consider the bug valid..
[01:27] <flow2fly> dotblank: but thanks for your support so far
[01:27] <dotblank> flow2fly, thats a good idea.. gets some rest and try again with alsa peoples later
[01:27] <flow2fly> maybe i will compile it then
[01:27] <jgcampbell300> thanks iflema
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  windows for some odd reason makes  a little partition like that at times.
[01:31] <Pokoloko> Dr_Willis: Last question and i wont bother you any more,  after i sudo grub , it tells me to >root (hd0,0) how do i convert (hd0,0) to sda2
[01:31] <flea> Pokoloko, try out grub's tab completion - its quite handy :)
[01:32] <Landon> hey guys, I recently cleaned house and removed a lot of seemingly "useless" packages lately, but now I can't play encrypted dvds at all :\
[01:32] <dotblank> flea, grub has tab completion? HOLY **** i am amazed!!!!!
[01:32] <phong_> hi
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  with grub1  hd0,0 = sda1   hdd1,0 would be sdb1    hd1,1 would be sdb2
[01:32] <Landon> I have libdvdcss2 installed from medibuntu as per guides, but I still see errors in dmesg about disc acces
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Pokoloko:  grub (1) starts counting at ZERO.. grub2 does it a little differently
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> dotblank:  yes it does. :)
[01:33] <rww> Landon: do you have libdvdread installed?
[01:33] <Landon> yes
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> grub2 starts the partitions # at 1 i think.. instead of 0
[01:34] <Landon> rww: nevermind... it fixed itself on reboot
[01:34]  * Landon is a happy camper again :)
[01:34] <jgcampbell300> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) what does that mean
[01:34] <Landon> just assumed it still wasn't working
[01:35] <rww> jgcampbell300: Do you have more than one package manager running?
[01:35] <phong_> question: what is the software use for boot and then backup HD to a image file.  If anythign goes wrong, i can use the backup file image and restore.
[01:35] <jgcampbell300> hmm i dont think s o
[01:35] <iflema> jgcampbell300 another package manager is running....
[01:35] <jgcampbell300> how can i find out if there is another runing
[01:36] <phong_> any help would be appreciated
[01:36] <jgcampbell300> lol nm i found one in the background runing
[01:36] <iflema> jgcampbell300 try agin when that done
[01:36] <phong_> ?
[01:36] <jgcampbell300> ty
[01:37] <jgcampbell300> wonder if there is any new games like the old Trade Wars 2002
[01:37] <iflema> jgcampbell300 or queue it up in the software centre... if thats an option
[01:37] <phong_> question: what is the software use for boot and then backup HD to a image file.  If anythign goes wrong, i can use the backup file image and restore.
[01:39] <FlyingCow> Can anyone give me a hand installing a specific driver for my wireless card?
[01:41] <iflema> FlyingCow does you device show under the menu System / Administration / Hardware Drivers
[01:41] <FlyingCow> I'm actually in Xubuntu, the device works. I have to have a specific driver for it.
[01:42] <FlyingCow> I'll check iflema
[01:42] <kwtm> Hi! Kubuntu 8.04 user here with question about Ubuntu 9.04: how can I change my GDM font so it's not tiny (7 point)?
[01:42] <iflema> FlyingCow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:43] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my wireless working? I had to install ndiswrapper and use an old Windows driver. I've got that driver installed now. ndiswrapper -l returns driver installed, device present message. But the internet still does not work.
[01:43] <kwtm> I have lots more questions about this one, too.
[01:43] <FlyingCow> My wifi is supported I need the driver for aircrack-ng
[01:43] <kwtm> Jasonrj: What's the output of 'iwconfig'?
[01:44] <FlyingCow> I
[01:44] <Jasonrj> kwtm: lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions.
[01:44] <FlyingCow> I'm having problems getting the drivers for my aircrack and for wireshark.
[01:45] <UbuN2> phong_, partimage is nice
[01:45] <UbuN2> check it out on wiki :)
[01:46] <kwtm> Jasonrj: Darn.  I'm newbish, too.  Out of my depth a bit.
[01:46] <Jasonrj> Thanks for trying :)
[01:47] <FlyingCow> Does anyone have any familiarity using Aircrack here?
[01:47] <jimi__> How do you install 'deb' ?
[01:47] <yoyoned> FlyingCow: ive used it, but im no expert
[01:47] <dotblank> jimcooncat, dpkg -i (.deb file)
[01:48] <anon^_^> anyone running kernel 2.6.32 on Karmic without adverse effects?
[01:48] <yoyoned> !deb|dotblank
[01:48] <FlyingCow> I've just got to get it to read this wireless card, as well as get wireshark to read it. I could get it in Gentoo no problem because I could emerge the driver I wanted. This one I can't
[01:48] <UbuN2> Jasonrj, which wifi card have u got pls ?
[01:49] <buttons840> pro tip: when installing from a live CD, don't install to a flash stick
[01:49] <Jasonrj> INPROCOMM IPN 2220
[01:49] <jimi__> yoyoned, so deb is not the name of the app, i see a lot of sites that say like 'deb http://'
[01:50] <UbuN2> thanks Jasonrj ill check it out give me a few mins
[01:50] <yoyoned> jimi__: deb is not the name of an ap, it is a package format
[01:50] <jimi__> yoyoned, ty, i was trying to install cinelerra
[01:50] <osmosis> anywhere else I can recover crash information besides /var/log ?
[01:50] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: Thanks... I think I have the correct driver, but don't really know what I'm doing.
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[01:51] <yoyoned> jimi__: what file did you wownload
[01:51] <jimi__> yoyoned, none
[01:51] <UbuN2> nps Jasonrj
[01:51] <yoyoned> jimi__ search for it in synaptic
[01:51] <valajbeg> can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:51] <yoyoned> !synaptic|jimi__:
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[01:52] <valajbeg> hello, can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:52] <abumaia> well I got my system reinstalled without encryption.  thanks to those who helped answer my questions
[01:52] <jimi__> its not in there, yoyoned i guess i need to add their repo, which is what i was doing, it was deb http:// .... dapper .. etc
[01:53] <yoyoned> !sources.list
[01:53] <bastid_raZor> !cinelerra | jimi__
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[01:53] <abumaia> does anyone have any idea why gksu wouldn't ask me for my password for synaptic, software sources, etc, with an encrytped system?
[01:53] <meganerd> openshot is another video editing app
[01:53] <valajbeg> hey can someone help me to force unlock package list that has been locked by other application?
[01:54] <UbuN2> Jasonrj, can u do this command in prompt and give me a feed back on result !
[01:54] <meganerd> valajbeg: I am not sure I understand the problem
[01:54] <UbuN2> ndiswrapper -l
[01:54] <meganerd> valajbeg: is apt locked by another instance?
[01:54] <valajbeg> yes
[01:54] <valajbeg> meganerd, yes
[01:55] <iflema> valajbeg most likely another package manager is running....allow it to finish then try again.... of delete the lock but dont do that....
[01:55] <meganerd> valawas it a gui app or console one that you need to kill?
[01:55] <yoyoned> !lock
[01:55] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: neti2220 : driver installed next line: device (17FE:2220) present.... there is also a warning message before that about all config files need .conf... not sure if that is important. im such a newbie
[01:55] <meganerd> we were all newbies once
[01:55] <valajbeg> iflema,  i know that another one is running but i want to breake it and to unlock repositories
[01:55] <UbuN2> nps Jasonrj
[01:56] <UbuN2> which error u get !
[01:56] <iflema> valajbeg /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <UbuN2> just for config files
[01:56] <dotblank> Everyone is always a newbie
[01:56] <Jasonrj> "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release."
[01:56] <meganerd> valajbeg: ps axf |grep apt
[01:56] <UbuN2> Cool
[01:57] <valajbeg> meganerd, i know what application hase locked it
[01:57] <meganerd> valajbeg: which one?
[01:57] <valajbeg> aptitude
[01:58] <valajbeg> but i can't kill it
[01:58] <meganerd> valajbeg: and have you killed its process?
[01:58] <meganerd> sudo kill -9 <pid>
[01:58] <yoyoned> valajbeg: why can't you kill it
[01:58] <Dextronaught> dotblank, since I got my mic working, would it be ok to reinstall pulseaudio?
[01:58] <UbuN2> Jasonrj, execute this command ...
[01:58] <osmosis> i just had a server crash, appears to have been kernel related. i dont see anything in the logs. AHCI interrupts started climbing and then the box froze. Any crash dump info I can locate ?
[01:58] <UbuN2> ndiswrapper -m
[01:58] <osmosis> using  2.6.24-26-server #1 SMP  on hardy LTS 32bit
[01:58] <AryehGregor> How can we ask that a package be synced from Debian to fix a bug, like <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+bug/498747>?
[01:59] <valajbeg> when i type killall -9 PID
[01:59] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> osmosis: possibyly aski in #ubuntu-server
[01:59] <AryehGregor> Who's the right person to ask about that?
[01:59] <valajbeg> it says that that process doesn't exist
[01:59] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: I have done that already, it just tells me there is already an alias
[01:59] <iflema> valajbeg sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:59] <UbuN2> then Jasonrj Edit /etc/modules and add "ndiswrapper" as the last line in the file (no quotes).
[01:59] <UbuN2> done this too ^^
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | iflema
[01:59] <osmosis> bastid_raZor, will do
[01:59] <valajbeg> iflema, why whould i edit sourcelist?
[01:59] <iflema> thats the one
[01:59] <phxheat1> I would like to expand my Recent Documents from 10 to about 20 showing in the list. Places>Recent Documents. Can you even change it, Ubuntu9.10
[02:00] <iflema> valajbeg why break lock?
[02:00] <valajbeg> need it to be able to use another app
[02:00] <Admin_> HELP! I can't log on to ubuntu anymore. I installed ubuntu with a minimal install cd and chose autmoatic updates and installed ubuntu-desktop and not I can't log in anymore
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: can you do a ps axf |grep apt
[02:01] <iflema> valajbeg and screw ya system?
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: or possibly grep for dpkg
[02:01] <valajbeg> meganerd, i know the PID
[02:01] <Admin_> After I login to the gdm it says not update ICEauthority file /home/home/.iceauthority
[02:01] <meganerd> valajbeg: just humor me
[02:01] <dlublink> hi
[02:01] <Admin_> and that there is a problem with the configuration server
[02:02] <meganerd> valajbeg: or grep for the pid, I want to see if that process is actually running or we need to clean up a lock file
[02:02] <dlublink> So, I got my dual head card working, unfortunately I don't know C++ well enough to add the missing options to the display applet
[02:02] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[02:02] <Admin_> also that nautilus could not creat certain files inside my home folder
[02:02] <dlublink> *sigh*
[02:02] <valajbeg> look http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:02] <meganerd> dlublink: dual head works out of the box for me, on an intel
[02:02] <valajbeg> meganerd, see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:02] <evon> anyone no how to get the microsoft wireless desktop 3000 working?
[02:02] <meganerd> dlublink: you may also want to look in to xrandr, it is what the display applet uses as a front end
[02:03] <UbuN2> once done Jasonrj reboot !!!
[02:03] <dlublink> meganerd, looks like my radeon 9600 has bad screen detection, so I have a a startup script that sets the proper resolution on the card
[02:03] <Admin_> Valajbeg was that link for me?
[02:03] <valajbeg> no
, see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/357826/
[02:04] <meganerd> valajbeg: try sudo kill -9 <pid>
[02:04] <bastid_raZor> valajbeg: killall is intended for application names .. kill -9 is for PID's
[02:04] <valajbeg> oou
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <FloodBot3> valajbeg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <valajbeg> :D
[02:04] <valajbeg> THANK YOU
[02:05] <dlublink> here we go
[02:05] <dlublink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/357828/
[02:05] <mike8i8> exit
[02:05] <meganerd> valajbeg: pkill is another app
[02:05] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: good job enormousnerd
[02:05] <iflema> valajbeg killall.... dont break lock? reboot.....
[02:06] <valajbeg> iflema it's ok now
[02:06] <meganerd> valajbeg: sorry, I missed that you were using killall, bastid_raZor was right on the money
[02:06] <valajbeg> iflema had to use kill instead of killall
[02:06] <threethirty> hello all I was wondering if anyone here knows how to unsubscribe from a ical calendar without removing the entire calendar
[02:06] <threethirty> in evolution
[02:06] <valajbeg> thank you very much meganerd, sometimes man get very stupid problem
[02:06] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: I know what I am... lucky to have a GF
[02:07] <meganerd> valajbeg: np, I still remember my early days, long ago tey may be
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: just wait till marriage. it gets better.
[02:07] <meganerd> I still have not learned to type :)
[02:07] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: we are skipping marriage for now
[02:08] <valajbeg> meganerd, well : ( unfortunately i'm linux user for a long time but some things i simply have not needed much : /
[02:08] <bastid_raZor> meganerd: you are skipping.. she is just slowly wearing you down.
[02:08] <meganerd> bastid_raZor: actually it was the other way around.  Her and her family are not huge fans of marriage
[02:09] <Jasonrj> UbuN2: I have done that, still no luck
[02:09] <meganerd> valajbeg: I am constantly making problems, so I pick up all of these things out of neccesity
[02:09] <UbuN2> u rebooted
[02:09] <deuterium> re, i've notice 9.10 ships with python-twisted 8.2.x only. how can i (safely/cleanly) install python-twisted v9.0? looks like there are some debs here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted
[02:09] <Jasonrj> Yes
[02:10] <Jasonrj> iwconfig still says no wireless extensions
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: you may run into dependency errors by just installing the deb, possibly best to find a ppa if one is available
[02:11] <iflema> jasonrj have you layed eyes on this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:12] <meowbuntu> hi i have ubuntu9.10 and kubuntu9.10 on same droive how come in grub boot losader Kubuntu comes up as Ubuntu when its clearly not ubuntu.
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  grub dosent care/know - kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome. thats it
[02:12] <chrisd2> Hi, I'm trying to install 8.10 on a dell studio 1535 -- when I try to install I first get a white screen, and then some coloured vertical bars. any ideas?
[02:12] <chrisd2> *9.10
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  theres no real need to have 2 instgalls one for kubuntu and one for ubuntu. You can install both on the same install.
[02:12] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: oh, i just found one: https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa. what does ppa mean?
[02:13] <Jasonrj> iflema: Yes, I have gone through all that, downloaded the correct driver, installed ndiswrapper, but it does not seem to work.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[02:13] <Ubiedoodie> I cannot detect my usb hp webcam in program such as cheese or skype I see it with lsusb though...help
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> !ppa | Ubiedoodie
[02:13] <bastid_raZor> err.. thanks Dr_Willis
[02:14] <bastid_raZor> Ubiedoodie: that link is not intended for you.
[02:14] <iflema> jasonrj https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/ipn2220 i meant this....
[02:15] <meganerd> Jasonrj: what does "iwconfig" by itself say?
[02:15] <Rubbberducky> Hey I am on ubuntu studio and I use the    SU command then try my password and it doesnt work.  What should I do? I selected the encrypt my home folder option on installation but even the generated key didnt work... Caps lock is off.
[02:15] <Jasonrj> iflema: Yes, have done that
[02:15] <Jasonrj> meganerd: lo no wireless extensions, eth0 no wireless extensions
[02:15] <deuterium> !ppa
[02:15] <Ubiedoodie> ubottu: I don't understand... I just logged in, is there someone with similar problem?
[02:15] <Ubiedoodie> lol
[02:16] <meganerd> Jasonrj: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper"
[02:16] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: ah that's cool :) looks exactly like what i'm looking for..
[02:16] <LordDragon> hi all
[02:16] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: nice, good luck
[02:16] <Ubiedoodie> does anyone have any success with hp webcams in ubuntu 9.04?
[02:16] <Jasonrj> meganerd: that returned ndiswrapper 185404 0
[02:17] <bastid_raZor> !webcam | Ubiedoodie check out these links
[02:17] <LordDragon> i just tried ubuntu netbook remix on this new acer aspire 250 netbook. the compatibility list said the wifi worked however it wont work and i dont see the wifi driver loaded
[02:17] <Quan-Time_> something is stealing my sound process.. i have no sound.. VLC.. ideas ?
[02:17] <meganerd> hmmm, try "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then check dmesg
[02:17] <Quan-Time_> something is stealing my sound process.. i have no sound.. VLC.. ideas ?
[02:17] <LordDragon> is the straight ubuntu 9.10 have a better chance of support my netbooks drivers than this netbook remix?
[02:18] <lucky> LordDragon: as i understand it, they have exact same drivers
[02:18] <lucky> LordDragon: there's just a different UI
[02:18] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Hardware Drivers.... look in there.....
[02:18] <meganerd> LordDragon: 9.10 has a newer kernel, the netbook release is a version or two old IIRC. I am running 9.10 vanilla on my netbook
[02:18] <LordDragon> oh i thought the remix had atom optomized kernel and other netbook drivers
[02:19] <v3n0x> hello
[02:19] <LordDragon> iflema, i went there and it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[02:19] <Jasonrj> meganerd: dmesg returns some errors saying it could not load.. oh my god "kernel is 32-bit but windows driver is not 32-bit..." Does that mean I tried a 64bit driver?
[02:19] <meganerd> Jasonrj: sounds like
[02:19] <Jasonrj> meganerd: wow, thanks
[02:20] <meganerd> Jasonrj: np, I used to suffer through ndiswrapper... I am now no longer afflicted by it
[02:20] <UbuN2> lol
[02:20] <Jasonrj> meganerd: I'm strongly considering buying a new laptop at this moment
[02:20] <iflema> LordDragon in terminal lspci -v | less  look for ya card type.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[02:20] <meganerd> Jasonrj: there was a time when I knew a whole lot about it (like 4 years ago)
[02:20] <Jasonrj> and running this one over with my truck
[02:20] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: thanks, but a quick question: to use this ppa (https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa) in lenny, do i need to add "hardy main" in sources.list or should i change the according line to "lenny main"?
[02:21] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I have a Dell Latitude e6400 that I am simply in love with
[02:21] <chrisd2> Hi, when I try to install 9.10 I get a white screen and then coloured bars down my screen, after some searching, I'm told this is due to "KMS being turned off for Radeon cards" in the latest kernel. Apparently installing it fixes it, how do I get the install working with KMS?
[02:21] <relik1> does anyone know why i cant install updates in Karmic
[02:21] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: no idea about debian, probably need to ask in #debian
[02:21] <meganerd> Jasonrj: the only downside is that it does not ship with a high performance video card, Intel or slow ass Quatro
[02:22] <meganerd> relik1: no idea, you may wish to tell us the error first :)
[02:22] <iflema> LordDragon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:22] <meganerd> Jasonrj: there is a Dell studio with a radeon supported by the open source driver with a core i7 proc that is pretty sweet
[02:22] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: err.. sorry, i meant if i use it on ubuntu karmic, not debian lenny. do need to set "karmic main" instead of "hardy main"?
[02:22] <meganerd> Jasonrj: a friend of mine has it, though he mostly wastes time with Windows 7 and WoW
[02:23] <LordDragon> iflema, gonna delete UNR and try the straight version
[02:23] <relik1> i go to install update and it doesnt do anything, so i did it thru terminal and get "E:  Couldn't find package update"
[02:23] <Jasonrj> meganerd: Sounds interesting, thanks for the info
[02:23] <iflema> LordDragon youve got it allready.... have a look at ubuntu9.10/moblin remix
[02:23] <meganerd> Jasonrj: np, I have learned a lot over the years about hardware to avoid... of course I always learn the lesson too late :)
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: if the ppa offers a karmic version, then yes but it should be telling you that it is offering karmic and/or hardy on the page
[02:24] <iflema> LordDragon http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/releases/9.10/release/
[02:24] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I am also a fan of Lenovos, I have an old x41 tablet running 9.10 that I also quite like
[02:24] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: looks like it offers a hardy version only. risky to try on a karmic?
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: yes.
[02:25] <Jasonrj> meganerd: I've heard a lot of good about Lenovo, I might have to look into that too
[02:25] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: what can happen, worst case? can't i just uninstall installed packages again, if something goes wrong?
[02:25] <meganerd> Jasonrj: I am a fan
[02:26] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: worst could happen is you get your packages in an unrepairable state.. mixing repo's is the fastest way to break your system.
[02:26] <osmosis> Any ideas on what to do if  /dev/ipmi  doesnt exist and it should?
[02:27]  * kwtm is waiting for Lucid so I can *finally* get Long-Term Support after 4 years.
[02:27] <LordDragon> iflema, whats that?
[02:27] <LordDragon> that link?
[02:28] <edson> somebody use laptop dell inspiron 1440?
[02:28] <osmosis> edson, yah i got one of those . the one that came with ubuntu
[02:28] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: oops. amazingly, the text on https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa implies that this ppa should work on karmic, though the ppa has a hardy version only. strange.
[02:29] <sabgenton> I damionized hostpad with hostapd -B
[02:29] <Copter> whats the screen command to go back to Attached screen?
[02:29] <sabgenton> how do i stop it
[02:29] <LordDragon> whats the moblin remix ?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Copter:  screen -x or -r or somthing.. see screen --help
[02:29] <kwtm> Copter: you mean "screen -r"?
[02:29] <sabgenton> thinkiing about it now i could just  kill -2 it
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: ppa'a are user maintained. me personally would not trust a hardy package in karmic. completely your choice.
[02:30] <sabgenton> is there a proper way?
[02:30] <edson> osmosis, after install ubuntu 9.10, but buttom eject cd-rom no working...
[02:30] <deuterium> bastid_raZor: ok, i create a backup of the whole appliance, then try it. thanks for the warning!
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> deuterium: hope all works out.. good luck.
[02:30] <iflema> LordDragon moblin 2 with an Ubuntu flavour
[02:31] <kwtm> What is the name of the window manager on GNOME Ubuntu, please?  I switched to Compiz, then KWin, and now don't know how to switch back.
[02:31] <kwtm> Is it metacity?  Sawfish?  Neither?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> edson:  if somthing is accessing the cd, or its mounted. i dont think it will.  try the 'eject' command or the right click menus for the cd.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  meticity --replace
[02:31] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: metacity --replace
[02:31] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: you and your speed fingers..
[02:31] <kwtm> Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: Thank you, will try.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> Yep.
[02:31] <maco> kwtm: metacity, but if you have a decent graphics card, it may use compiz (3d shiny) by default in ubuntu
[02:31] <meganerd> wow you guys are fast
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon |  kwtm
[02:32] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: bite your fingernail down to the quick.. that'll slow you donw
[02:32] <iflema> LordDragon UNR and Ubuntu are basically the same thing.... moblin is different.... very.... may not be what you need.... may be.... and wireless 4 me buggy on UNR and flawless on ubuntu/moblin
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> bastid_raZor:  i only type with one hand + 1 finger on the other hand also... :P
[02:32] <merc3nary> hello, can i request some help from anyone?
[02:33] <LordDragon> so then installing ubuntu desktop 9.10 wont have any better luck with wifi driver?
[02:33] <bastid_raZor> Dr_Willis: i must have lag then.. heh
[02:33] <edson> Dr_Willis, existing button eject my laptop dell inspiron 1440, not working.
[02:33] <Jasonrj> meganerd: iwconfig returns wlan0 with all sorts of info, yay :) but accessing the internet still does not work.
[02:33] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: tried the command, got about 1,000,001 error messages about Failed to contact config server: possible stale NFS locks due to system crash, or need to enable TCP/IP networking (but I have networking already).
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> edson:  Yes. IF some program has the cd in use/locked it wont work. try the eject command.
[02:33] <edson> Dr_Willis, command eject from shell, working.
[02:33] <meganerd> Jasonrj: you need to actually connect to an AP
[02:34] <iflema> LordDragon in a terminal type lspci -v | more and scroll through with the space bar until you see you wifi card info and reply with that...
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> edson:  eject is always funny to do to a remote box while someone is using it also. :)
[02:34] <meganerd> Jasonrj: does the network manager applet see you wifi device?
[02:34] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis, bastid_raZor: is there some lock file I should delete or something to get metacity behaving?
[02:34] <kwtm> maco: I did install compiz before, then switched to KDE 3 (then KDE 4 to make some settings and then back to KDE 3), and now when I try GNOME the windows have no borders or "close" buttons.
[02:34] <merc3nary> I'm having trouble installing 9.10, does anyone know why my screen would be flashing during install? Or why the installer wont detect my filesystem?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  id just log out/back in to gnome. and use teh fusion icon program to manager what WM to use
[02:35] <keepsake> What's the equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules in karmic?
[02:35] <meganerd> Jasonrj: gotta run, if you see me later I would be happy to help
[02:35] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: when I click the Compiz Settings manager, nothing happens (program fizzles).  WHen I run from cmd-line, it complains that some python settings library are the wrong version.
[02:35] <Jasonrj> meganerd: How do I access network manager applet? (I removed the top panel which had that icon as well as the menus and clock, I moved them to the panel on the bottom but did not see the network icon to re-add)
[02:36] <Jasonrj> meganerd: ok, np
[02:36] <meganerd> Jasonrj: right click the bar, and add it
[02:36] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: Is using fusion-icon necessary just to start the GNOME win manager?  I just want a working window manager.
[02:36] <meganerd> Jasonrj: alt-f2 then type nm-applet
[02:36] <keepsake> kwtm: Try running metacity --replace
[02:37] <merc3nary> can anyone please help me out?
[02:37] <maco> kwtm: no it just makes switching around easier
[02:37] <kwtm> keepsake: Hi.  I see you are late to this discussion.  I did run metacity --replace and got a bazillion "socket /tmp/dbus-blablabla COnnection Refused" errors.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  i dont know what all youve done or messed with. proberly easiest to just log out and start with a clean slate
[02:37] <keepsake> kwtm: Ah
[02:37] <Jasonrj> meganerd: Thanks for all the help
[02:37] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry I didn't make it clear.  I *am* logging out and back in to GNOME.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  it sounds like some of the gnome services are not starting up then. or somthing else goofy. how did you get in such a mess?
[02:38] <keepsake> What's the equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules in karmic? >>
[02:38] <Copter> i installed java jdk. how do i figure out where it installed it to ?
[02:38] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: should I... reboot??  (gasp!)  As I mentioned before, I installed KDE3 and turned off Compiz, and that's how this happened.
[02:39] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: is there some way to purge /tmp/dbus-whatever?  Hmm....
[02:39] <kwtm> Am rebooting (my other computer, not this one).
[02:39] <maco> kwtm: maybe system -> preferenes -> appearance still thinks it should be using compiz?
[02:40] <kwtm> maco: Will try.  Say, KDE works, so maybe I'
[02:40] <kwtm> maco: maybe I'll go into KDE and then run metacity --replace?  Hmm...
[02:41] <Copter> FUCKIN UBUNTU 50 HOURS TO DO SIMPLE BULLSHIT FUCK THAT NOOB HAX RANDOM CRAP
[02:41] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: Actually, all this was to change the font size in GNOME.  So let me ask: is there some config file where I can just reach in and change font size of GTK programs?
[02:41] <Copter> WINDOWS FOR LIFE!
[02:41] <rww> !language | Copter
[02:41] <Craig_Dem> I see him trolling
[02:41] <iflema>  merc3nary it is wise to try in a live environment first... have you done this with success?
[02:41] <Craig_Dem> I hating
[02:42] <Copter> bullshit
[02:42] <Copter> windows 7 for life!
[02:42] <lucky> Copter: Ubuntu isn't everything for everyone.  I feel the same way about Windows at times, unable to do things which would be simple on Linux.
[02:42] <rww> Craig_Dem: stay on-topic, please
[02:42] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I'm using KDE, and all KDE3/4 programs work fine, and all GTK progs like Firefox, Synaptic, etc. show up with TEENSY font (size 7).  Can I just edit some .gnome-fonts-rc file?
[02:42] <soreau> ! ops | Cop
[02:42] <maco> kwtm: i dont know. i use kde :P
[02:42] <rww> soreau: copter left already.
[02:43] <apipkin> hello all! I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and was curious if there was a tutorial somewhere on how to set up a php/zend framework developer environment? i've been searching and havent found anything relating to ubuntu 9.10 desktop
[02:43] <kwtm> lucky, Copter's been banned.  He doesn't even hear what you say.
[02:43] <jami> After updating to 9.10 every window opens in fullscreen mode without any borders
[02:43] <rww> kwtm: no he hasn't
[02:43] <soreau> rww: Oh good I thought it was yet another auto-tab #ubuntu fail ;)
[02:43] <lucky> kwtm: yes, i noticed that, i hit enter before i saw the part message :P
[02:43] <maco> kwtm: banned? he left of his own free will
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  run the gnome-settings service perhaps.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  i also seem tor ecall some kde settings to tell gtk apps to use the kde fonts/settings
[02:44] <kwtm> maco, rww: Oh, I see now that FloodBot3 removed the auto-ban on Copter
[02:44] <rww> kwtm: FloodBot quiets tend to be highly temporary :)
[02:45] <pokoloko> anyone know a workaround for grub error Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> and i dident even see Copters actual question.. oh well.. no big loss...
[02:45] <Jose_21> Hi, did anybody get their Sound Card working perfectly but not so with the microphone?
[02:45] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I think I found the problem.  Will check if I'm right.
[02:46] <jami> apipkin: download zend and put it to the php.ini include_path
[02:46] <apipkin> does it automatically come with mysql and apache installed?
[02:46] <iflema> jose_21 just confirm its not muted? silly i know.
[02:46] <kwtm> maco, Dr_Willis: I ran metacity --replace from a command line that was created long before this X session (ie. from weeks ago) even though I've logged in and out several times.  Maybe it can't connect to the current X-session?
[02:46] <jami> apipkin: no
[02:47] <Joel> Hi guys, I have a question, I think is dumb but I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing: I have a HD which is going to to have
[02:47] <Gnusboy> Hello
[02:47] <jami> apipkin: just install apache2 mysql-server and php5
[02:47] <Joel> 3 partions, ubuntu 32-bits and kubuntu 64-bits, is there a problem sharing the same swap?
[02:47] <rww> Joel: no
[02:47] <apipkin> oh ok jami. thanks
[02:47] <kwtm> Joel: Good question.  I'd love to know, too... I'm guessing yes.
[02:47] <jami> Joel: no
[02:48] <kwtm> rww: no?  Can't share swap?
[02:48] <apipkin> i'll get on that and see how it goes from there :)
[02:48] <rww> kwtm: no, there's not a problem
[02:48] <Gnusboy> I can't install ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10. Both give me erros about a previous install
[02:48] <kwtm> rww: Oh, I see, no problem, able to share swap.  Got it.  As I thought.
[02:48] <Joel> rww jami no?
[02:48] <apipkin> first time i'm committed to actually giving ubuntu a try
[02:48] <rww> Joel: You can use one swap partition for a dualboot between Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no problems.
[02:49] <rww> oh, wait, maybe one problem
[02:49] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: choose to format the partition during the install
[02:49] <Joel> rww: even 32 VS 64 bits?
[02:49] <zetheroo1> anyone here have experience with uploading vids to YouTube?
[02:49] <Gnusboy> I have a corrupted install of Ubuntu 9.04
[02:49] <rww> Joel: If you use hibernate, you need to make sure to boot back into whichever OS hibernated when you start up again. That's about it.
[02:49] <rww> Joel: no, 32bit vs. 64bit doesn't matter.
[02:50] <Joel> rww, ok, thanks :)
[02:50] <jami> apipkin: there are two php.ini's /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini. You must set the path to Zend/library in both of them
[02:50] <Gnusboy> RaZor: When I try to re-install I do the format partition, but locks up
[02:51] <Gnusboy> when I do a re-install I format the partition, but it locks up
[02:51] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: from the liveCD install gparted (if it is not already installed) then format the partition yourself. then try the install
[02:51] <jami> Gnusboy: did you run fsck?
[02:52] <Gnusboy> RaZor: When I do a re-install it shows several partions
[02:52] <pawan> hi
[02:52] <duckwars> can anyone tell me why I copy files through ssh over my local area network that I can only go about 130k/s? is there some way to speed it up?
[02:52] <iflema> Gnusboy fsck, force it, try to recover
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> duckwars how big are the files?
[02:53] <ZenGuy311> what are soe good pdf readers with bookmarking fucntionalitys
[02:53] <Gnusboy> RaIt won't run Fsck
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> and how powerful are the computers?
[02:53] <duckwars> mostly movies and stuff, between 100mb-1gb
[02:53] <tmg1|fwtaylor> and are you using scp or some other method?
[02:53] <Gnusboy> I tried a complete new partition but it locks up
[02:53] <duckwars> but I mean, I can download things off the internet faster than I can ssh into my linux box, this confuses me
[02:53] <duckwars> I'm using cyber duck
[02:53] <duckwars> does scp show the rate of download?
[02:53] <jami> what is that
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> yeah
[02:54] <jami> yes
[02:54] <duckwars> cyber duck is a os x ssh program
[02:54] <jeeez> is there someway i can unselect all entries in the update manager windows? [instead of having to click a 100 times] {slow net connection, prefer doing a few updates at a time!}
[02:54] <duckwars> does anyone wanna give me the general format for the scp command, otherwise I will google it
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> osx has scp
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> i'm pretty sure
[02:54] <duckwars> it does, i've done it before
[02:54] <duckwars> one moment
[02:54] <tmg1|fwtaylor> scp files username@host:~/location (-r)
[02:54] <icedtea`> does anyone know how to change how sensitive the scrollwheel is in gnome apps/xorg
[02:55] <jami> man scp
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  general format is same as 'cp'  thats how its designed
[02:55] <tmg1|fwtaylor> flags might need to go first
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  see 'scp --help'
[02:55] <Darkebrz> If I format my C drive, will I have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:55] <Gnusboy> RaZor: it shows several partitions. I do the use all harddrive format, but when I continue the install it locks up
[02:55] <Darkebrz> (It is on a partition of my C drive)
[02:55] <jeeez> right, i just had to double click on the title!
[02:55] <iflema> Gnusboy in  live environment (live cd) on the unmounted drive do in a terminal this.. fsck -f /dev/[sdWhatEver], force it, try to recover
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:   You mean you have ubuntu installed via WUBI on a windows partition?
[02:56] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, nope off of a disk.
[02:56] <done365> Good Evening, I need some help getting my VLC and gnome working together to play video with out the video stopping.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you delete a windows aprtition it shouldent affect a normally installed ubuntu system.
[02:56] <bastid_raZor> Gnusboy: follow iflema's advice.
[02:56] <Darkebrz> Okay then. Just making sure.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you resize  the partitions it MIGHT goof up the UUID's of the other filesystems
[02:57] <paragonc> im trying to install ubuntu 9.04 - when i put in the cd - i get an x error when clicking Install Ubuntu - it drops me at a command line - is there a way to start an ncurses based installer?
[02:57] <jeeez> and someone can suggest a good pdf reader? [what are my alternatives?]
[02:57] <jami> done365: did you start vlc in a terminal
[02:57] <iflema> bastib_raZor he may have screwed it...
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  if you reinstall windows.  Windows will overwrite the MBR
[02:57] <Cabrobra> how can i turn the sound ON in Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:57] <done365> jami: No, I started in gnome
[02:57] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, wha?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  i just use the default in Ubuntu for PDF> i forget what its even called. I rarely install the adobe one,.
[02:57] <Gnusboy>  RaZor: The error msg I get is "error removing ubiquity-frontend-gtk subprocess pre-removal script returned erro exit status 139
[02:58] <Cabrobra> como posso aumentar o volume no Ubuntu 9.04? Ta muito baixo
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  Reinstalling windows or not? If yes.. then Windows install process will take over the MBR and erase GRUB.
[02:58] <jeeez> Dr_Willis: evince i guess?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  proberly that one. :) i recall kde has one also ive used.
[02:58] <XDS> Does anyone need a blippy invite ?
[02:58] <Gnusboy> I tried Fsck - it will not run
[02:58] <done365> I have googled this and it seems to be a common problem with no clear solution
[02:58] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, would Ubuntu still show up on the Windows MBR?
[02:58] <jami> done365: start it in a terminal and you will see the error
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if foxit reader ever started on their linux version anuy more.
[02:58] <XDS> How many users are in here ?
[02:58] <XDS> Does anyone need a blippy invite ?
[02:58] <gbear14275> I'm looking for a ppa with virt-manager 8.2... anyone know, or use virtualization with the latest virt-manager versions?
[02:58] <XDS> cripts
[02:59] <bazhang> XDS, wrong channel
[02:59] <maco> XDS: not on topic
[02:59] <done365> Jami: will this error show in the terminal or in a log?
[02:59] <XDS> eat me
[02:59] <iflema> Gnusboy boot the live cd... try gparted... try fsck-f first unless youve messing around with different methods....
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  hard drives have a boot loader in the  MBR windows will write its own loader there. or ubuntu puts grub there.
[02:59] <maco> but you dont look very tasty...
[02:59] <gbear14275> I'm really hoping to figure out how to get virt-manager 8.2 installed... anyone have any tips, the forums and google are offering limited help
[02:59] <Gnusboy> iflema: "error removing ubiquity-frontend-gtk subprocess pre-removal script returned erro exit status 139
[02:59] <gbear14275> I tried building the package myself but when I installed it, a python dependency failed
[02:59] <jami> done365: my vlc did it
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  check for PPA repos of it?
[03:00] <iflema> Gnusboy from live cd with gparted?
[03:00] <Darkebrz> Dr_Willis, so if I format then install Windows I will not be able to boot into Ubuntu?
[03:00] <XDS> k sry ill stay on topic
[03:00] <duckwars> okay, using scp i get about 182 k/s
[03:00] <jami> done365: or look for an verbosity flag
[03:00] <icedtea`> Cabrobra, did you check the volume settings in the system tray (by the clock)
[03:00] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: I've tried looking in a few...  and was hoping maybe someone had a suggested one.  Never worked with untrusted PPA's before
[03:00] <paragonc> has anyone tried to install ubuntu from the cds command line installer?
[03:00] <duckwars> it's weird too, because if I am scp'ing by itself i get about 180kb/s but if I have multiple going they will each go that fast
[03:00] <iflema> Gnusboy not the installl... one can load the entire desktop off the cd...
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  formating has nothing to do with it.. WINDOWS installer will overwrite the MBR. If  you have 2 hard drives.. You could put the ubuntu grub on the ubuntu hard drive.. and let windows keep on its own hd. Unplug the ubuntu HD when you install windiows.
[03:01] <XDS> Has anyone seen or heard from s9 , he/she was working on a  HVR driver for Ubuntu :-/
[03:01] <paragonc> i cant seem to get it to start installing - startx fails
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Darkebrz:  then use the bios menus to pick what HD to boot.
[03:01] <Gnusboy> iflema: Seems like everything on 9.04 freezes. and 9.10 will not instal from scratch either
[03:01] <done365> Jami: thanks will look to see if it outputs an error code during the event.
[03:02] <duckwars> anyone have any ideas how I can speed up my ssh over my LAN?
[03:02] <iflema> Gnusboy it is wise to try in a live environment first... have you done this with success with 9.10?
[03:02] <Gnusboy> Ok, I will try that and see. I'm sure I tried it before with no luck
[03:02] <abumaia> if I try to install ubuntulooks, it tells me that it will uninstall gnome-desktop.  can I do without gnome-desktop, or will that bork my system?
[03:02] <Cabrobra> icedtea': yes! itś in maximum
[03:02] <bazhang> abumaia, ubuntu-desktop?
[03:03] <iflema> Gnusboy while ya there and theres no probs.... gparted the corrupted drive
[03:03] <GSF1200S> if I wanted to have rsync recursively delete files/directories, would I do rsync -avh --delete-recursive /path/to/source /path/to/destination?
[03:03] <Gnusboy> iflema: it will boot with CD but not without
[03:03] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: this link https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager has a couple updated versions at the bottom of the page... is there a way to search the rest of the ppa's for a specific version of virt-manager?  I tried clicking the link but it did not show which versions were in the ppa's
[03:03] <Spirits-Sight> any advice on getting a windows ce device to appear as drive and sycn with evolotion?
[03:03] <paddymullen> how do I get ubuntu to run an xinitrc or xsession file in my home directory
[03:03] <abumaia> my bad, ubuntu-desktop, yes
[03:03] <icedtea`> Cabrobra: I have to ask this, did you make sure your headphones/speakers are plugged in?
[03:03] <jami> Again. Did somebody knows about weird 9.10 migration behaviour. All windows open in fullscreen mode and that sucks, I tried to remove .gnome* from my home but the settings are still there
[03:04] <Gnusboy> iflema: Live environment =
[03:04] <boss_mc> abumaia: ubuntu-desktop is not needed, it's just the meta-package that depends on the default ubuntu packages, removing it is safe, so long as it doesn't try to remove other things at the same time
[03:04] <bazhang> abumaia, sure it s just a metapackage, safe to remove
[03:04] <iflema> Gnusboy so the error message you gave before was from live cd with gparted?
[03:04] <maco> paddymullen: make sure it's executable, and then when you login, choose "Run Xclient script" instead of "GNOME" or what-have-you
[03:04] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: nvm... there are only 18... I can go through them by hand
[03:04] <Gnusboy> I don't know for sure. I've been at it for a week
[03:04] <abumaia> it lists ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-artwork and human-theme
[03:04] <Cabrobra> icedtea': yes! itś in maximum
[03:04] <iflema> Gnusboy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[03:05] <LordDragon> iflema, ok i did that command. the result for network controller is "Broadcom Corp BCM4312 802.11B/G
[03:05] <Gnusboy> iflema: I will try it all again and see what happens. At this point I'm ready to clean HD and go from there
[03:05] <Cabrobra> icedtea': sorry... yes! In youtube i can listen good.. but seeing movies with totem, the sound is not great
[03:05] <LordDragon> kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[03:05] <jami> Gnusboy: either your memory or your disk is corrupt.
[03:06] <duckwars> what kind of speeds should I be recieving over my wireless local area network when I scp things?
[03:06] <Gnusboy> jami: hardware seems fine -
[03:06] <icedtea`> Cabrobra: sorry, don't know then.  :(
[03:06] <iflema> LordDragon tooo easy in synaptic package manager search for and install bcmwl-kernel-source then go to System / Administration / Hardware Drivers and activate
[03:06] <jami> duckwars: if you have a cheap wlan router than thats the max
[03:07] <duckwars> jami: I have a snazzy airport
[03:07] <paddymullen> where does the option for run xclient script comeup?
[03:07] <iflema> LordDragon you may need to open the restricted repo
[03:07] <abumaia> boss_mc: it lists ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-artwork and human-theme to uninstall when installing gnomelooks
[03:07] <duckwars> jami: also, if the router were the chokepoint, why can I get files from the internet so much faster?
[03:07] <tmg1|fwtaylor> is there any particular reason not to wildly increase max-specpdl-size in emacs?
[03:07] <LordDragon> iflema, ok let me try that now
[03:07] <abumaia> gah..ubuntulooks
[03:07] <jami> duckwars: cause they are not encrypted
[03:07] <Gnusboy> jami: Ok. I will try again with another new Live Cd
[03:08] <Gnusboy> Back later. Tahnks
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> duckwars: your typical speeds for that network, maybe 90% of that at worst?
[03:08] <jami> Gnusboy: check the memory first
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> although for small files you might lose some to setting up of connections etc
[03:08] <duckwars> 90% of what?
[03:08] <tmg1|fwtaylor> whatever you normally get
[03:08] <Cabrobra> somebody give another video player to Ubuntu 9.04, without be Totem
[03:08] <Gnusboy> jami: I did mem check its ok. I will run it again
[03:08] <LordDragon> iflema, the only thing comes up inthe search is "bcmwl-modaliases". do i need internet access to get these proper drivers?
[03:09] <boss_mc> abumaia: you'll not be able to use the human theme (but I doubt you want to as your installing a new theme), other than that there should be no problem
[03:09] <tmg1|fwtaylor> I scp stuff across the network all the time and get pretty much whatever the network is capable of consistently, i barely notice the overhead, ymmv
[03:09] <abumaia> thanks boss
[03:09] <duckwars> well... I'm not sure what my maximum is from router to computer though, I donwload up to 1mb/s from the internet
[03:09] <trevski> Calrobra VLC
[03:09] <tmg1|fwtaylor> if "from the internet" includes "from router to computer" you should be getting that much
[03:10] <boss_mc> abumaia: np
[03:10] <tmg1|fwtaylor> but upload speed might be different, etc etc
[03:10] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Software Sources enable the restricted repo..
[03:10] <duckwars> precisely, so why can i only get 180kb/s from my server on my own LAN?
[03:10] <iflema> LordDragon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:10] <boss_mc> Cabrobra: mplayer, vlc
[03:11] <tmg1|fwtaylor> also keep in mind your router might be measuring 1mbps in megabits and scp probably measures things in MegaBytes (MiB) / KiloBytes /Kibobytes or whatever
[03:11] <nellmathew> hey guys i was wonder what the other options were with ext4, largefile, largefile4, newsfile?.. i'm trying to make a separate partition for /boot, wanted it to be for small files
[03:11] <tmg1|fwtaylor> so it's not 180kb/s but 180*8 or about 1Mbit
[03:11] <adac> How can I add more then one local path on rsync on command line?
[03:11] <deuterium> any idea what's the best way of installing a python library from source? i'm thinking of sth like "stow python setup.py install", but i'm not sure whether that is advisable?
[03:11] <done365> jami: I did get a message after the error.  "QOObject: :startTimer:  QTimer cannot have a negative interval" if you know what that means
[03:11] <LordDragon> iflema, "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" is already checked in "software sources"
[03:12] <tmg1|fwtaylor> (180KiB/s on scp means 1.440 Mbit/sec)
[03:12] <duckwars> hrm... but..... still I should be able to exchange more than 1mb/s just around my local area network shouldn't I? I can't even stream a movie without hiccups over sshfs
[03:12] <keepsake> Installed some scanner drivers, and now gtk-window-decorator doesn't autostart (and metacity isn't starting either). Everything worked fine before. Any ideas?
[03:12] <tmg1|fwtaylor> you can probably give scp a flag to change what kind of kilobytes it uses
[03:12] <iflema> LordDragon oh what version are you 9.10
[03:12] <LordDragon> yes 9.10
[03:12] <iflema> LordDragon bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:12] <LordDragon> 9.10 desktop
[03:13] <Daugha|n> whats the gui package for samba?
[03:13] <LordDragon> so i should be able to type sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[03:13] <iflema> LordDragon yes
[03:13] <gmachine_24> If I am looking at a folder with symbolic links in it, what is the command to find the path that those links are to...? I'm not explaining this very well - it's something like >read libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:14] <LordDragon> iflema, says it cant find that package
[03:14] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, only 1mb on lan?
[03:14] <duckwars> yea
[03:14] <jami> done365: and nothing else? did you run vlc -v 2 /path/foo.avi
[03:14] <tmg1|fwtaylor> NotTooSmart 1.4mbit on wireless
[03:14] <iflema> LordDragon and restricted repo is activated... and you typed bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:14] <NotTooSmart> I get about 2.8mb/s on wireless G
[03:14] <jami> gmachine_24: ls -l
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  for transfer speeds.. sshfs may be sluggish since its encrypted data. Ive not noticved any problems wih it on my local lan.. of course on a local lan NFS/samba would proberly be faster.
[03:15] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, yea like dr.willis says, that 2.8mb is on samba
[03:15] <gmachine_24> jami, as in    > ls -l libjavaplugin_oji.so ............?
[03:15] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: what about AFP?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  nfs should be faster then samba,   No idea what you mean by AFP
[03:15] <poningru> j #deluge
[03:16] <LordDragon> iflema, i went to software sources, and inthe list of downloadable from the internet it says "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)'
[03:16] <lucky> i found with a pentium 2 i was limited to about 1 MB/s  copying as sshd was pinned to 100% CPU for the encryption
[03:16] <LordDragon> do i need internet access to download the right drivers?
[03:16] <NotTooSmart> duckwars, if you use all linux/unix machines you can use NFS
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> LordDragon:  normally yes.
[03:16] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: Apple File Protocol, but I kidn of what encryption right, what if I am contacting the computer through the internet
[03:16] <gmachine_24> jami, OK. You're right. Thanks.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  through the internet - You proberly better stick to sshfs then. and just deal with the speeds
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  you could use straight ftp i guess.. but thats not as secure.
[03:17] <iflema> LordDragon yes ristricted component if your on 9.10 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:17] <duckwars> in scp it is saying 180 KB/s.  IS that kilobytes, or kilabites, or which one?
[03:17] <duckwars> this confuses me
[03:17] <kwtm> duckwars: Isn't KB with capital B "bytes" and lower case "b" would be bits?
[03:18] <duckwars> I have no idea
[03:18] <Jeruvy> kwtm: the other way around actually
[03:18] <dwoodard> kwtm, i think so
[03:18] <duckwars> which is the standard one a web browser would use?
[03:18] <SlowpokeBwaah> kwtm: Yes
[03:18] <LordDragon> iflema, ok done. its installing now
[03:18] <iflema> woooo
[03:18] <LordDragon> iflema, after it installs, how do i activate it ?
[03:18] <daftykins> Jeruvy: lol no it's not, KB= kilobyte Kb = Kilobit
[03:19] <iflema> LordDragon System / Administration / Hardware Drivers..... or scroll up and see what i posted earlier ;)
[03:19] <jami> kibibyte
[03:19] <duckwars> so I'm really going at 180KB/s
[03:19] <duckwars> this is super slow
[03:19] <daftykins> jami for 1024 bytes ja ;)
[03:19] <jami> :-P
[03:19] <nafi> i need ubuntu teme
[03:19] <duckwars> i have to go
[03:19] <duckwars> thanks
[03:20] <nafi> i need ubuntu theme
[03:20] <gbear14275> ok... if I still have a .deb file... is there a way to reverse the commands it ran?  I would like to "uninstall" a .deb
[03:20] <iflema> duckwars hey ive only 165 max
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> nafi:  so?
[03:20] <bazhang> nafi, go to gnome-look.org for themes
[03:20] <keepsake> !themes > nafi
[03:20] <NotTooSmart> gbear14275, i believe you can still sudo apt-get remove programname
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu and I have a microphone
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  use the pacakge manager tools to uninstall the pacakge.
[03:20] <Tuxguy> Anyone use the cheese webcam tool? It takes pictures and videos, but the display panel doesnt show me live
[03:20] <kwtm> Jeruvy: Hmm, looks like dwoodard and SlowpokeBash agree with me.  I always thought it was "big B" means bigger (a byte is bigger than a bit)
[03:20] <LordDragon> iflema, ok i found 2 drivers. broadcom b43 and broadcom sta
[03:20] <LordDragon> which do i choose?
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> How would I make a video showing my Ubuntu desktop and be talking about it at the same thing
[03:20] <Ronald_Regan> I want to make a tutorial of Ubuntu.
[03:21] <Jeruvy> daftykins: ah I read that wrong, your correct
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> Ronald_Regan:  the 'record my desktop' app can do that.
[03:21] <bazhang> !screencast | Ronald_Regan
[03:21] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: NotTooSmart:  This .deb installed an untrusted PPA... but I'm getting some errors afterwards... not sure if it installed any packages
[03:21] <jami> Tuxguy: did you set the video device correct
[03:21] <Ronald_Regan> Dr_Willis: It will let me INput sound and show the desktop at the same time right?
[03:21] <kwtm> Can someone tell me if compiz depends on python before 2.6?  If I have python 2.6 installed, do I have to remove it before running the compiz settings manager?  (It says Undefined Symbol in some library.)
[03:21] <gbear14275> Dr_Willis: NotTooSmart: ref...https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/virtualization
[03:21] <woodyjlw> I have a magicjack and want to use on ubuntu. will it run with playonlinux or wine?
[03:21] <Jeruvy> kwtm: ya I read that wrong my bad.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> gbear14275:  check yoru soruces.list file and /etc/apt/sources.d then to see what it added
[03:21] <keepsake> gbear14275, NotTooSmart: Use  "sudo dpkg -r -P <packagename.deb>"
[03:21] <iflema> LordDragon for me sta worked better.... but even better at the time was mobli/ubuntu remix.... things may have changed and ive the 4322
[03:21] <jami> kwtm: which one exactly
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  from what i gather.. magicjack wont work in wine.
[03:22] <NotTooSmart> keepsake, thanks gbear14275 follow his advice.
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  and playonlinux is just a front end to wine
[03:22] <gbear14275> thanks keepsake... will try it now
[03:22] <kwtm> bazhang: I am impressed by your ability to remember ubotu keywords!
[03:22] <obiwan_> please, how can i check pendent updates?
[03:22] <iflema> LordDragon try sta... try em both
[03:22] <obiwan_> with apt i mean
[03:22] <kwtm> jami: Umm... I'm running Jaunty, had Compiz working, then installed KDE 3 and now no longer.  However, I did upgrade Python to 2.6; wonder if that's related.
[03:23] <obiwan_> or dpkg whatever
[03:23] <woodyjlw> Dr_Willis,  any other way to make it work without installing windows on vbox
[03:23] <keepsake> obiwan_: Why not "update-manager"?
[03:23] <jami> obiwan_: dependencies?
[03:23] <keepsake> obiwan_: If you mean dependencies that's something else =P
[03:23] <obiwan_> i preffer terminal keepsake
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:  im not even sure it will work in vbox.
[03:23] <jami> kwtm:  (It says Undefined Symbol in some library.) what was the exact message
[03:23] <gbear14275> keepsake: dpkg: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> woodyjlw:   check the forums perhaps. and the wine app database. there may be some work arounds
[03:23] <LordDragon> iflema, it says for the sta one "this driver is activated but not currently in use>" what does that mean
[03:23] <kwtm> Whoa.  THought I'd remove python and then reinstall, but that removes the whole system!
[03:24] <obiwan_> nope, i don't mean deps jami , i mean what update-manager outputs, but shown with apt or dpkg
[03:24] <gbear14275> keepsake: should i first run -r then -P
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  removeing/reinstalling rarely fix's anything in Linuix.
[03:24] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: apt-get install --reinstall
[03:24] <keepsake> gbear14275: Oh, my bad, use only -P
[03:24] <kwtm> jami: ImportError /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/compizconfig.so: undefined symbol: ccsGetPluginStrExtensions
[03:24] <paddymullen> nope none of that works, i  ran chmod +x, added a shebang #!/bin/bash, and even tried to make a .xsessionrc
[03:24] <keepsake> gbear14275: If that doesn't work then -r
[03:24] <NotTooSmart> gbear14275, sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[03:24] <iflema> LordDragon there is another module currently try to run the card... as you posted earlier.... modprobe -r it or reboot
[03:25] <chu_> My copy of MonoDevelop has lost its menu bar, even with a re-install the menu bar hasn't come back :(
[03:25] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: Even if I installed an unofficial python 2.6, which I *think* (not sure) was not done through apt-get?
[03:25] <keepsake> obiwan_: sudo apt-get upgrade does the trick
[03:25] <kwtm> bastid_raZor: Will try.  Thx.
[03:25] <HTT-Bird> hey, I'm building a custom kernel for my box (so I can flashrom the bios), how do I make a new kernel flavor?
[03:25] <gbear14275> keepsake: might have done it wrong but I got this... dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[03:25] <blendmaster1024> are there any known workarounds for the cursed broadcom wifi chipsets?
[03:25] <gbear14275> keepsake: should i just use the package name?  I used the path to the file
[03:25] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: which broadcom do you have?
[03:25] <deuterium> using "checkinstall setup python.py install"? (any idea what's the best way of installing a python library from source?)
[03:25] <keepsake> gbear14275: Try that.
[03:25] <kwtm> Oh, wait, Python *is* 2.6 in Jaunty, right?  How can I tell?  Aahhhh I am so mixed up...
[03:26] <blendmaster1024> not sure, last digit is 6, i know that, and i think the last digit is the key digit
[03:26] <Spirits-Sight> anyone able to help with setup windows ce 6 device with Ubuntu?
[03:26] <keepsake> kwtm: "python --version"
[03:26] <MrKeuner> hello, is relatime still the default for ext4 in fstab on karmic?
[03:26] <Andrew33> hi
[03:26] <gbear14275> keepsake: same error :-/
[03:26] <HTT-Bird> kwtm: python --version :)
[03:26] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, I dont know if its the default, but it's not needed.
[03:26] <Andrew33> I was curious: what is ubuntu?
[03:26] <kwtm> keepsake: python --version is indeed 2.6.2.  However, I'm trying to determine if that's the version that came with Jaunty already, or whether I put in a new version myself.
[03:27] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: do a 'lspci -nn | grep 14e4' and paste me the line you get back
[03:27] <bazhang> Andrew33, an operating system
[03:27] <blendmaster1024> Andrew33, wow, you managed to get here without already knowing? you should get a medal, no kidding
[03:27] <LordDragon> iflema, trying a reboot
[03:27] <jami> kwtm: try to reinstall python-compizconfig compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:27] <iflema> LordDragon ok
[03:27] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, you nick causing some trust issues but what about noatime?
[03:27] <kwtm> HTT-Bird: I remember that I had upgraded to 2.6 because I needed some python command not present in 2.5
[03:27] <keepsake> kwtm: The version used is 2.6.4 at the moment.
[03:27] <Andrew33> haha thanks
[03:27] <HTT-Bird> kwtm: ah. :)
[03:27] <kwtm> jami: will try Thanks.
[03:27] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, i don't have the system up right now. just generally, are any of the ones that the foss driver doesn't work with workaroundable?
[03:27] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, mine looks like this... /dev/sda1 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[03:27] <keepsake> gbear14275: Try just using synaptic then >__<
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: you can use the Broadcom provided STA driver (wl.o).  YMMSV
[03:28] <kwtm> Oh, I *love* this apt-get install --reinstall option!  It would have saved me so much time before!
[03:28] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, I'll also go with that thanks
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, seriously?
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> (your milelage may seriously vary)
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> LOL
[03:28] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: it is a binary blob driver, and may or may not work with your card
[03:28] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, simpler <is> better
[03:28] <blendmaster1024> thanks and i know this is a lolfreezone
[03:28] <kwtm> keepsake: I must have been thinking of my laptop, which is running Hardy (because SOMEONE decided that KDE 3 users were to be dragged screaming and kicking into KDE 4!!!!)
[03:28] <LordDragon> yesssssss
[03:29] <HTT-Bird> however, if 4306 rings a bell, you should use b43legacy
[03:29] <gbear14275> keepsake: different q... are the actions a .deb file takes all documented in the terminal you can view as it installs?  I can just reverse those commands couldn't I?  Would that reverse the package install?
[03:29] <LordDragon> you rule iflema !
[03:29] <LordDragon> thanks man
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, that would be it.
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> "legacy"...
[03:29] <smegzor> Anyone know if an ATI RX1950Pro is supported by ATI in ubuntu 9.10?  I just installed it and so far like the previous ATI I had, an X300, it is complete rubbish (very fancy and large rubbish).
[03:29] <iflema> LordDragon lastime i fell and broke my crown
[03:29] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: yeah, use b43legacy
[03:29] <keepsake> gbear14275: Not all the actions are documented, but either way, you shouldn't try to uninstall a package that way.
[03:29] <Spirits-Sight> anyone able to help with setup windows ce 6 device with Ubuntu?
[03:29] <blendmaster1024> hmm, is it entirely in the repo?
[03:30] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, what about non root partition's entry in fstab?
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: yes, it's in the kernel
[03:30] <kwtm> jami: Did not work, same message.  How can I find by cmd-line: which DEB package contains the file /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/compizconfig.so ?
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> Spirits-Sight, i'm sure someone is. but nobody so far has been able to help.
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: you can either use the latest fglrx that supports your card, or use radeon
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, does b43legacy come preinstalled?
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: no clue
[03:30] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, that line can be modified for those too just change the mount point
[03:30] <HTT-Bird> paw through /lib/modules
[03:30] <keepsake> gbear14275: What's the package you're trying to remove?
[03:30] <faileas> any opebox users? I'm running ubuntu karmic with openbox - i'd like to run cairodock and xcompmgr automatically, but when i add it to my openbox autorun file, it seems they start before openbox does
[03:30] <blendmaster1024> thanks. i'll try that.
[03:30] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, and the device obviously
[03:30] <Jeruvy> !find
[03:30] <MrKeuner> errors=remount-ro should not be there no/
[03:31] <blendmaster1024> that factiod is incorrect
[03:31] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart,  errors=remount-ro should not be there no?
[03:31] <obiwan_> ok so this is the command, apt-get -u upgrade, that shows upgradeable files hehe :) thanks jami and keepsake for your help
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, well, I like it since it remounts your date read only if your system goes hay-wire
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  make them launch  from a script that has a delay of about 20 sec at the start.
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, it helps prevent data loss
[03:31] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: fglrx = ATI proprietary, faster but especially older versions are fragile
[03:31] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, you can remove it if you like
[03:31] <faileas> Dr_Willis: how?
[03:31] <keepsake> obiwan_: You don't need the -u there if you have upgrade, but yes =P
[03:31] <blendmaster1024> you need "find <dir to search> -name <name with shell wildcards>"
[03:31] <gbear14275> keepsake: https://launchpad.net/~dnjl/+archive/virtualization  installation instructions include a .deb file... I think all it did was install the gpg keys though but I'm not sure
[03:31] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I tried the usual tricks, enabling visual effects (couldn't), and running system/admin/hardware drivers but none were found there either.
[03:31] <faileas> i mean, is there a wait command?
[03:31] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: o.O
[03:31] <horizxon> I completely screwed up my computer by choosing the separate x display option in the nvidia settings program, it made me restart my computer and now both monitors are not showing my desktop. One has a blinking underscore at the top left and thats it. How can I revert whatever that tool did?
[03:32] <jami> kwtm: ldd
[03:32] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, don't I need defaults?
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  make a script.. sleep 20 , command &,  command2 &
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> do you see "Direct rendering: yes"?
[03:32] <keepsake> gbear14275: Yeah, that doesn't install a package unless you manually install one later.
[03:32] <blendmaster1024> faileas, sleep  = wait
[03:32] <HTT-Bird> if you see "Direct rendering: no", you have a broken Mesa/DRI setup
[03:32] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, no many different things will work, its linux not windows, you need what you need.
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> horizxon:  you could move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere and restart X - with no xorg.conf it shoudl go back to defaults
[03:32] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: it says GLX missing on display..
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> horizxon:  i never want t use the seperate X display feature.
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: ok, you are missing Mesa/...
[03:33] <blendmaster1024> wow. ati on linux. don't think anything is worse than that. intel maybe, actually, but it's a close one.
[03:33] <Random832> zsnes crashes with a double free or corruption error when i try to use a joystick device
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  intel i find works much better then ati.. :)
[03:33] <horizxon> thansk ill try it
[03:33] <kwtm> jami: explain.  Do you want me to run the "ldd" command?
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: ati on linux isn't that bad with very recent (post AMD) fglrx, or with recent radeon
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> from what I hear at least
[03:33] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I have a recent driver installer from ATI.  I'll see if there is a newer one first before trying that.
[03:33] <blendmaster1024> Dr_Willis, really? you've got lucky
[03:33] <jami> kwtm: yes
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: no, don't use fglrx yet
[03:33] <NotTooSmart> Dr_Willis, nvidia i find works best on ubuntu :-D
[03:33] <MrKeuner> NotTooSmart, ok thank you
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  i see MUCH more problems in here with ATi then i do intel
[03:33] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: your card is supported by the FOSS r300 driver
[03:34] <kwtm> jami: oh, that's the answer to my question!  I see.  Sorry.
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: fglrx issues I take it? :d
[03:34] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, oh i see i have to deal with 100% pre-amd
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: most of those pre-amd cards should be supported by r300
[03:34] <NotTooSmart> MrKeuner, no problem
[03:34] <jami> kwtm: ldd will list the dependency of the library
[03:34] <HTT-Bird> which is the Mesa/DRI driver for radeons :D
[03:34] <tjagoda> Had the open sourcing of ATI's specs helped the driver along very much?
[03:34] <tjagoda> Has*
[03:34] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, yes but it's very very bad support. none of my pixel shaders cards work - the system freezes when i try
[03:34] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i'll give that a shot. I'm learning a lot from non standard configs ;p
[03:35] <buttons840> is it going to be possible for me to install grub to my raid, i have a real ide raid controller?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> tjagoda:  empty promises for teh most part from what ive seen/heard/
[03:35] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, that is unless i'm using nvidia, which i do anytime i possibly can
[03:35] <HTT-Bird> blendmaster1024: heh, *is an nvidia guy*
[03:35] <keepsake> Anyone know how to change the scanner source in xsane?
[03:35] <tjagoda> The intel graphics that came with this system76 work great
[03:35] <tjagoda> even with full desktop effects
[03:35] <HTT-Bird> intel for me is buggy as heck unless I run a really recent mesa
[03:35] <blendmaster1024> HTT-Bird, of course, much better than intel and ati doesn't seem to work
[03:35] <faileas> tjagoda: there's a particular bunch of common cards which have an issue
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Intel on my netbook works devcently well. :)
[03:36] <faileas> iirc the gma 500s
[03:36] <NotTooSmart> tjagoda, so does my intel dual core laptop
[03:36] <kwtm> jami: Sorry, ldd seems to point to what files I need.  WHat I'm looking for is: /usr/lib/...blabla.../compizconfigsettings.so is contained in the deb package "compiz-settings-kde3" or something.
[03:36] <iflema> tjagoda did they open source... when?
[03:36] <minimec> blendmaster1024: Dr_Willis: I am just testing a radeon 9600 mobility with a 2.6.33-rc4 with the ati driver ppa. Oh lord... it's a miracle...!!! Never have I seen such a progress with my GPU. It's just amazing...
[03:36] <blendmaster1024> Dr_Willis, then your card must be brand-new
[03:36] <keepsake> My hd2400 pro works pretty well with the fglrx drivers from AMD D=
[03:36] <tjagoda> iflema: a long time ago
[03:36] <HTT-Bird> minimec: are you using fglrx or r200/r300?
[03:36] <kwtm> jami: Then I would ask: "which packages depend on compiz-settings-kde3 (or whatever package)"?  and try to find why the library isn't there.
[03:36] <astrojp> Anyone know how to get the iPod Shuffle 'Model A1271' to work on Ubuntu? GTKpod doesn't seem to recognize it.
[03:36] <tjagoda> iflema: you can probably find it with an "open source ati" search on slashdot
[03:36]  * blendmaster1024 goes to bed: nobody say my nick anymore
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> I'm surprised more people don't think of running the r300 stuff, it seems ati = fglrx for most people, which is not true :p
[03:37] <neil1> How can I copy an entire usb (including partitions) to another usb?
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> neil1: dd
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> dd works for any and all devices ;)
[03:37] <minimec> HTT-Bird: ati opensource driver with kms enabled, the mentioned kernel with ati driver ppa...
[03:37] <chrisd2> Hi - I'm trying to boot Ubuntu into text mode, I'm told that's done by choosing 'recovery' at GRUB, but GRUB only shows 'loading grub' and goes straight onto ubuntu. what should i do?
[03:37] <HTT-Bird> you can even dd from/to character specials, not just block devs ;)
[03:38] <NotTooSmart> neil1, sudo dd if=/dev/device1 of=/dev/device2
[03:38] <neil1> HTT-Bird: how would I stucture this command?
[03:38] <neil1> ahh
[03:38] <HTT-Bird> minimec: ah :DDDDD
[03:38] <chrisd2> neil1, man dd
[03:38] <s0l1dsnak3123> neil dd if="" of=""
[03:38] <NotTooSmart> -.-
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  actually its over a year old.
[03:38] <LinuX2half> My computer won't react to disc being inserted
[03:38] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: I'm not sure which of the xserver-xorg drivers I need in synaptic for my RX1950.  I'm tossing between the xserver-xorg-video-radeon or the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[03:38] <keepsake> Dr_Willis: " * blendmaster1024 goes to bed: nobody say my nick anymore "
[03:38] <kwtm> jami: Oh, for crying out loud, I didn't install compizconfig-settings-manager-kde3, just the ordinary compizconfig-settings-manager (not KDE3).  Maybe that's it. :P
[03:38] <iflema> tjagoda now its half a dud
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> minimec: speaking of kernels, I have a 2.6.28 source sitting in front of me, how do I make a new target/flavor of kernel?
[03:39] <tjagoda> iflema: only half?
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: use radeon, radeonhd isn't what you want
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Flash is not working now on facebook on Firefox.. but it is on Google Chrome.. how.. odd...
[03:39] <faileas> neil1: the easiest way is to use usb-imagewriter
[03:39] <iflema> tjagoda mmm
[03:39] <HTT-Bird> faileas: dd's still good to know
[03:39] <gbear14275> ok... last question... is there anything I can do about these errors?  Its with that website I think so the answer should be no... just want to check...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/357859/
[03:39] <iflema> tjagoda open good..... ati... well...
[03:39] <smegzor> hmm..  actually I already have that one installed and I don't get accelerated graphics or wobbly windows :(
[03:39] <tjagoda> I miss being able to set questions as solved in answers
[03:39] <faileas> HTT-Bird: if someone knows how to use DD, they won't need to ask ;p
[03:39] <keepsake> gbear14275: You probably need a login to download those files.
[03:39] <minimec> smegzor: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Afeature
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> faileas: true, but it's still good to learn
[03:40] <LinuX2half> Does anyone know how come the my computer won't react to disc such as that.
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: is HAL running and polling your removable media drives? (cd/dvd/...)
[03:40] <chu_> Dead CD-drive?
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> if HAL's b0rked, cds won't automount
[03:40] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: can you mount /dev/cdrom manually?
[03:41] <smegzor> Should I try installing the official binary driver from ATI or will that hose my display like it does for the X300?
[03:41] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: don't install the binary driver yet
[03:41] <minimec> HTT-Bird: I do nor understand your question...
[03:41] <jami> smegzor: good luck
[03:41] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: make sure that all your mesa packages are installed and there are no stray bits of fglrx still floating around
[03:42] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: hmm.. well so far I already have the driver you directed me to and the ATI card only gives me a high res display, nothing more.
[03:42] <HTT-Bird> minimec: you know how kernels are '-generic' '-server' ...?
[03:42] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: let me think here...do you have a libGL.so in /usr/lib?
[03:42] <smegzor> I can't complain too hard.  the card was given to me for free.  the last one caught on fire.
[03:42] <NotTooSmart> smegzor, wow, what were you doing lol
[03:42] <kwtm> jami: Darn, still didn't do it even with the -kde3 version installed.
[03:42] <tjagoda> It's never a good day when you have to put out your computer, smegzor. =P
[03:43] <smegzor> nothing.  it was a factory defect on the card.
[03:43] <smegzor> i stopped the comp FAST I can tell you :)
[03:43] <LinuX2half> HTT-bird: here's what I get; http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5cfbed12
[03:43] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: suckish.  anyway, lspci -vv and see if the r300 DRM module loads
[03:43] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: check your syslog
[03:44] <minimec> HTT-Bird: So you wnt to compile a new kernel and give it a special name '-mykernel'?
[03:44] <HTT-Bird> minimec: those are kernel flavors/targets (I'm looking at Kernel/Compile on the wiki)
[03:44] <HTT-Bird> minimec: exactly! :)
[03:44] <tjagoda> I get a bit worried about my fellow community members when I see things like "Ubuntu Satanic Edition" in launchpad. =P
[03:45] <maco> tjagoda: its just a bunch of themes (really great for halloween, i might add)
[03:45] <tjagoda> hah
[03:45] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: http://pastebin.org/77509  I'm not sure if it loaded or not..
[03:45] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: I can't seem to access the file
[03:46] <LinuX2half> HTT-bird: I've tried using gedit /var/log/syslog
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: you need to be root (aka use sudo) to read logs
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> LinuX2half: less /var/log/syslog ..works great
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: do you have a CrossFire setup?
[03:46] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: smegzor: let me think here...do you have a libGL.so in /usr/lib   YES I do.
[03:46] <keepsake> HTT-Bird, LinuX2half: cat /var/log/syslog works
[03:46] <HTT-Bird> keepsake: yes, I use less myself
[03:47] <minimec> HTT-Bird: hmm... Rather good question. Last time I compiled a kernel, they got something like a '-custom' label, if I remember well. Man that is long time ago... So I have no answer to your question.
[03:47] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: What is crossfire?
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: where you have two gfx cards in the same system, working together to render things
[03:47] <smegzor> if you mean video card fire, I had it but uninstalled it recently.
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> I saw you had a secondary gfx adapter in that system for some odd reason...
[03:47] <smegzor> I only have 1 pci-e slot
[03:47] <deuterium> btw "checkinstall python setup.py install" is the best way to install python-twisted from svn source/trunk
[03:47] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: wha?
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> how the heck do you have a secondary graphics adapter then?
[03:48] <hydrozen> anyone has a remote control to recommend thats compatible with linux and not too expensive?
[03:48] <smegzor> I don't
[03:48] <LinuX2half> bastid_raZor, keepsake: thanks
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: either that or you have 1 card with 2 GPUs on it
[03:48] <chilicuil> hi there, does anyone know what component is this, http://www.imatica.org/fotos/ubuntu910boot1.jpg ?, I wanna change it, but I don't know what file modify, it appears after I select ubuntu in the grub
[03:48] <smegzor> possibly.  I know nothing about this card except that it is a hated ATI.
[03:48] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: because you definitely have 2 GPUs floating around your system, either that or something else bizarre
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> hydrozen:  you may want to ask in #mythbuntu -  ivwe been looking for one myself. but none seem totally idiot proof..
[03:49] <smegzor> I preferred my NVidia, but that card is the card that burned.
[03:49] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: what should I be looking for?
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: look for anything with sr0 in it :)
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> or sg0
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  thats the usplash screen.  its really not worth messing with. and its a pain to change.
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !usplash
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  i think the epidermis tool can help change it
[03:49] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: pastebin the output from lspci -vvnn relating to your second gfx card k?
[03:50] <chilicuil> usplash?, I thought Ubuntu was using XSplash, now Dr_Willis
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  it is using xsplash
[03:50] <chilicuil> Ok, I'm gonna check it out, thx Dr_Willis
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> chilicuil:  usplash is part of the kernel.. xsplash is right after uisplash
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> xplash is silly also..
[03:50] <xxx_> hello
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> all this work just to keep people from seeing 'text' messages.....
[03:51] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: http://pastebin.org/77513  I'm pretty sure this is just the same output as last time, but here you go.
[03:51]  * xxx_ have to say I like this irssi its good have a pic up of Fergie as my background this works great
[03:51] <matju> how do i pick a dvd speed ? hdparm doesn't work on /dev/cdrom like it used to.
[03:51] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Here's one phase, Jan 16 22:27:47 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [  790.318628] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[03:52] <keepsake> Does anyone know how to get xsane to find a scanner that sane-find-scanner finds >>
[03:52] <LinuX2half> Htt-bird; [  790.318647] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[03:52] <gbear14275> ok... tried to use the PPA I installed and got these errors... I'm not exactly sure what they are saying... http://paste.ubuntu.com/357862/
[03:52] <yuehai> Does anybody here know how to use blktrace?
[03:53] <darthanubis> where exactly would I put --enable-jack=yes in my debian/rules file to get jack support in gtk-recordmydesktop
[03:53] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem?
[03:53] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: either the disc or the drive is shot
[03:53] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird, here's more http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6bd9d834
[03:54] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Today I was trying to burn the image to the DVD but the work splattered.
[03:54] <PapiChi> help please?
[03:54] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: try lurking in #radeon for a while, that's your best bet for help, your configuration seems...quite bizarre tbh, I have NO clue what the 2nd device is doing floating about
[03:54] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: can you try with a known good disc?
[03:55] <gbear14275> Can anyone tell me what these errors mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/357862/
[03:55] <Random832> how do i turn keyboard repeat on and off?
[03:55] <Random832> it got turned off when a game crashed
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> Random832: globally or just in one xterm?
[03:55] <Random832> globally
[03:55] <HTT-Bird> in one xterm, 'stty sane' usually fixes things
[03:55] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Good Disc? Well the live CD won't be recognized but it can be booted from.
[03:55] <Random832> no it's an x issue
[03:55] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:55] <Random832> xev has the same problem
[03:56] <smegzor> HTT-Bird: thanks for your help
[03:56] <HTT-Bird> globally, try wiggling the setting for keyboard repeat some
[03:56] <Random832> is there a command line tool for this?
[03:56] <PapiChi> Please help
[03:56] <Random832> i'd also like to turn it off sometimes in the future, for playing flash games
[03:56] <sjd> hey. I came to look help on my bluetooth
[03:56] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: you can try fglrx if you wish, but I'd recommend exhausting all the options with the FOSS drivers first
[03:57] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> as you will need an older (probably pre-AMD aka crappy) fglrx version
[03:57] <Random832> found it, xset
[03:57] <sjd> I can scan devices and pair them, but no file transfer is possible through bluetooth. can anyone help me? Im using karmic
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> Random832: that'll do the trick :)
[03:57] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Okay, I insert a movie disc and it just spins
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: ok, your drive or controller is gonez0r then
[03:57] <HTT-Bird> prob the drive
[03:57] <NotTooSmart> gonezor
[03:57] <sjd> can someone please help me?
[03:58] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[03:58] <PapiChi> sjd it's almost impossible to get help here :(
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> sjd: ask your question man
[03:58] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Are you implying that my controller is gone...?
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: I think your drive is shot personally
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> there's an outside chance it's your controller
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> smegzor: #radeon's a fairly slow channel btw
[03:58] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: what do you mean by "shot"?
[03:58] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: dead. broken. out of order.
[03:58] <sjd> HTT-Bird: my bluetooth has a problem. Im using Karmic. I can search and pair devices, but I cant send and recieve files
[03:59] <HTT-Bird> sjd: never used Bluetooth in my life, sry m8
[03:59] <zagabar> Anyone here is good at ics? I am using it on my server so that eth0 faces internet and eth1 faces other computers. eth1 is configured as 192.168.0.1. How do I do if I want my wlan0 to also be able to act as an interface where computers could connect?
[03:59] <PapiChi> sjd it's almost impossible to get help here :(
[03:59] <ranjan> hello Every body does any body have any idea regarding how to get notified on empathy in irc chanel if some body call some bodies name
[03:59] <ryanCH> why can't i enable DMA on my sata drive with hdparm?
[03:59] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Oh I see, then is it the OS problem thats causing it or just the hardware?
[03:59] <sjd> PapiChi: why? this is the ubuntu support channel right?
[03:59] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: hardware
[03:59] <PapiChi> sjd yes, but I can't even get a response :(
[03:59] <PapiChi> I apt-getted obbledooble V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:00] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: I don't even know what the heck obbledooble is, let me go look for it :p
[04:00] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird check the pastebin
[04:00] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: where'd you get that package from? it sure as heck isn't in jaunty. :p
[04:00] <xxx_> PapiChi: I can't find that obble dooble in my repository have fun with your double vision ;)
[04:01] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Oh what a surprise! The disc is being recognized by the k3b program.
[04:01] <icedtea> is there a gnome developer channel?
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> icedtea: irc.gnome.org :)
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: as blank media? :O
[04:01] <jami> zagabar: just bring the second one up
[04:01] <icedtea> HTT-Bird, doh! thats right, been there before, thanks
[04:01] <HTT-Bird> np icedtea
[04:01] <jami> zagabar: whats the problem
[04:02] <PapiChi> my mistake. The game is called "obledoble", the problem is with my flashplugin. Error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:02] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: No, its a movie and it had the title on it. Audio_TS, Video_TS
[04:02] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: ah.
[04:02] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: ok, finally
[04:02] <HTT-Bird> so your drive has life :)
[04:02] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Yes!
[04:02] <minimec> zagabar: You will have to set the eth1 device into master mode. Like sudo iwconfig eth1 mode master.
[04:02] <PapiChi> I tried to play a flash game ("obledoble") V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? Is the flash plugin broken? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:03] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: so then the OS must be causing the problem then...
[04:03] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Maybe when upgrading to Karmic messed things up
[04:03] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: perhaps, it could be an intermittent hw problem, those do exist :)
[04:03] <zagabar> jami: The second one? I tried to do it in the same manner as I did with eth1, so I put wlan0 as 192.168.0.2 and followed some guide on how to make it connectable. I found the wireless network card on my laptop and managed to connect, but I could not ping anything. Not even the wlan card.
[04:03] <zagabar> minimec: Okay, I'll try.
[04:03] <NotTooSmart> ryanCH, what ver of ubuntu are you on?
[04:04] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: hw intermittent problem? What issues are those?
[04:04] <PapiChi> I tried to play a flash game ("obledoble") V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? Is the flash plugin broken? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:04] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Is that some kind of hardware?
[04:04] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: loose connection, bad solder joint, marginal transistor on some chip somewhere, resistor or capacitor on the very edge of its tolerance range, ...
[04:04] <HTT-Bird> yeah, hw is short for hardware :)
[04:04] <zagabar> minimec: I got this: http://pastebin.com/mfdabed0
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> !ops PapiChi
[04:05] <fender68dg> I'm having trouble connecting to the net using the onboard wireless adapter on my laptop using ndiswrapper tells me its unable to see if hardware is present could someone help plz
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> !ops
[04:05] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird you rude little man
[04:05] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: oh, but is there a solution to this..?
[04:05] <jami> zagabar: paste ifconfig -a
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: replace the drive probably
[04:06] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird you pass off your incompetence with saying "intermittent hardware problem"
[04:06] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I find that reprehensible
[04:06] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: replace it? Why? I thought its fine...?
[04:06] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: I/O errors are usually hardware-related.
[04:06] <PapiChi> LinuX2half he has no idea what he is talking about. In fact, I think he's a troll
[04:06] <zagabar> jami: http://pastebin.com/m561ec601
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> PapiChi:  I Just noticed flash not working in firefox on facebook.. but GoogleChrome flash is working on facebook.. go figure..
[04:06] <HTT-Bird> LOLOLOLOLOL.
[04:06] <PapiChi> Dr_Willis thank you
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> [    1.344958] ata1.01: limited to UDMA/33 due to 40-wire cable
[04:07] <NotTooSmart>  what does this message mean????
[04:07] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: grab an 80wire cable if you want UDMA/133 speeds
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> NotTooSmart:  you need a 80 pin ide cable perhaps..
[04:07] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart it means you have the wrong cable, you need an 80 wire
[04:07] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: you need a different cable to use the faster mode
[04:07] <PapiChi> 4 answers!
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> lol
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> all the same thing. :) get a new cable
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> how can I tell the dif im sure I got one?
[04:07] <minimec> zagabar: can you set 'sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc'?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> and they say exactly what the error messge is basically saying.. :)
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> count the wires? :)
[04:08] <PapiChi> lol
[04:08] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: the 40-wire is a flat ribbon, the 80-wire looks like it's been braided.  It'll be labeled as 80-wire, and it will cost more :)
[04:08] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: you know, that error message papi posted looks...not like an error message at all. :o (I have my suspicions about what he could be)
[04:08] <PapiChi> my 80 pins also have a different colour stripe on the ends
[04:08] <LinuX2half> I don't think replacing the drive should be a solution at all.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> I got all facny 'round'  ide cables now.
[04:08] <maverick> how can i change the notification tray settings in xfce?
[04:09] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird hey now, let's not get nasty
[04:09] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: forgive me for asking, but where the heck did you get that error message from? console? syslog?
[04:09] <HTT-Bird> I simply don't recognize it >.>
[04:09] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird when I asked in #debian
[04:09] <LinuX2half> So the problem is how come the computer won't react to the inserted disc.
[04:09] <NotTooSmart> Dr_Willis, on an old machine, is it worth the new cable?
[04:10] <jami> zagabar: and now you want to communicate between eth1 and wlan0. both gatewac eth0?
[04:10] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart probably yes, it'll make a noticable difference in I/O
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: have you built a kernel recently btw?
[04:10] <zagabar> minimec: Same error about operation not supported. Isn't it the wlan0 that's supposed to have adhoc? Connecting other computers via cable to eth1 works.
[04:10] <LinuX2half> When I'm still using jaunty, they always pop up a blank CD or DVD
[04:10] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: it's probably the cheapest speed boost you could ever do on an old machine.
[04:10] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart plus, it's cheap
[04:10] <NotTooSmart> Snausages, alright thanks.
[04:10] <LinuX2half> Now its totally gone like the option for that is disabled.
[04:10] <PapiChi> as Snausages said
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: do you have a UDMA133 controller?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> HTT-Bird:  not in 4+ years
[04:10] <LinuX2half> Is there something I should be aware about here?
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> if you do, then grab the 80wire cable and rock on
[04:10] <NotTooSmart> HTT-Bird, im not sure, its a machine I just for listening to music, its a dell dimension 2400
[04:11] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I recently had to recompile a kernel. Why?
[04:11] <zagabar> jami: Yeah. I want to be able to connect computers wirelessly to wlan0 and wiredly to eth1 and then they should get internet connections.
[04:11] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: because I am building a custom kernel for my box with CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM=n
[04:11] <jami> zagabar: if you have no access point you have to switch on adhoc mode
[04:11] <jgcampbell300> im going to add a bluetooth card to my gatway ms2252 notebook and was wondeing if anyone could suggest a good preforming card that ubuntu is cool with ?
[04:12] <HTT-Bird> and I want to know if I need to take any precautions to prevent that kernel from clobbering my existing one
[04:12] <NotTooSmart> I think it has a dma/100 controller
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird nope
[04:12] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: dma/100 should work over 40wire
[04:12] <zagabar> jami: on wlan0?
[04:12] <LinuX2half> how do I enable auto mount?
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird they will co-exist happily, with NO suspect error messages
[04:12] <NotTooSmart> HTT-Bird, dunno its saying its configured for 33
[04:12] <LinuX2half> !mount
[04:12] <minimec> zagabar: That was for testing purposes. In ad-hoc mode, two computers can be connected together (That would be like a twisted pair wired connection). What kind of wifi device is that, as I know that not all devices are supporting all modes. Depends on the driver I think.
[04:12] <jami> zagabar: yes
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird as long as your boot loader sees them both it's all good
[04:12] <Snausages> jg: the important bit is the chipset- the cambridge silicon chipset works perfectly with ubuntu.
[04:13] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: my concern is that when I install the new kernel, it will overwrite the old one :P lol
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> will ubuntu even use bluetooth ?
[04:13] <LinuX2half> how do enable auto mount?
[04:13] <HTT-Bird> and I won't have the old kernel available to me any longer
[04:13] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: yes, works fine for certain things, see my comment above
[04:13] <zagabar> minimec: I see. The device is a 01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[04:13] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird no, the old one is always there
[04:13] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird it's been that way since ... forever
[04:13] <zagabar> minimec: and I am using an XP driver.
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> Snausages oh sorry missed it ... thanks much
[04:13] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: I've used it for keyboards & mice without issue.  Looks like everything is in place for audio support, like a headset.  Other uses?   hmm, dunno
[04:14] <zagabar> jami: How can I turn on adhoc for wlan0 then?
[04:14] <HTT-Bird> well, PapiChi forgive me for my ignorance with respect to your issue...I thought you were asking about a bogus package or something
[04:14] <jgcampbell300> ya was gona try to use it with my mouse and iphone
[04:14] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: I've not personally attempted bluetooth audio in ubuntu.  I did research bluetooth tethering from my mobile phone, looked like a major pain.
[04:14] <HTT-Bird> and got really confused when I saw the error message :(
[04:14] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I still have the utmost respect for you
[04:15] <jgcampbell300> kk thanks man
[04:15] <minimec> zagabar: Hmmm... You use ndiswrapper? I have no idea, if you can switch modes, using the WinXP driver.
[04:15] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: now to your issue :) what spat out that error message you pastebinned us? it looks quite bizarre
[04:16] <jgcampbell300> now im off to buy a hd and bluetooth card ... just cleaned my notebook for the first time and found extra hard drive bay and extra slot for BT card .. figgured i would fill it up while i can lol
[04:16] <zagabar> minimec: thats right
[04:16] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird could you remind us what the error message is?
[04:16] <HTT-Bird> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:16] <maverick> what is the xfce equivalent of the gconf-editor
[04:16] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: though it seems odd, you may do better with USB bluetooth...  there are tiny ones which only protrude from the usb ports by a couple mm
[04:16] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird oh, I'm afraid that is the wrong pastebin address
[04:17] <zagabar> minimec, jami : btw, I noticed something weird. When I restart the network it says "Failed to bring up wlan0." even though I can see it in ifconfig.
[04:17] <HTT-Bird> kk
[04:17] <NotTooSmart> PapiChi, HTT-Bird the red stripe indicates 80wire?
[04:17] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird it was http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7dae00e4 ... but dont' worry
[04:18] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I have installed the old plugin
[04:18] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: nearly all cables have a red stripe, it's just to indicate pin #1 so you don't hook it up backwards
[04:18] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart sorry, without taking the cover off my box I can't remember :-) Google is your friend
[04:18] <jgcampbell300> ya this notebook only holds 3 usb ports and most of the time there filled .. accualy i would be saveing one port from the mouse
[04:18] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: ok. :) there we go, that looks more like a sane error message ;)
[04:18] <nellmathew> hey guys how do i load or reload ethernet modules from cli?
[04:18] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird actually, I must say I find that pastebin you posted quite rude
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> nellmathew: insmod/rmmod
[04:19] <nellmathew> thanks HTT-Bird
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: which is exactly why I was wondering where the heck it came from in the first place. :)
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> nellmathew: modprobe and lsmod are helpful in your quest as wel
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> *well
[04:19] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: if the ribbon has all the wires perfectly parallel, it's 40wire.  If you see pairs of wires crossing each other in a repeating braid pattern, that's an 80-wire
[04:19] <jgcampbell300> well im off
[04:19] <PapiChi> Anyway, sometimes I wish the flash plugin was not a plugin but some kind of native code! Too bad HTML5 never addressed this
[04:20] <faileas> lol
[04:20] <faileas> PapiChi: HTML5 does replace some uses of flash with something native
[04:20] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:20] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me figure out why I'm having trouble launching my network manager? Errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:20] <PapiChi> faileas yeah, but people still use the horror that is flash
[04:20] <zagabar> minimec: I tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc" and that seemed to work. It didn't complain at least. It was eth1 who didn't want to change mode.
[04:20] <minimec> zagabar: wait... So you have three devices... wired eth0+1 and a wireless wlan0. I was wrong... ;) 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master'
[04:20] <faileas> PapiChi: you mean abuse ;p
[04:20] <flexible> hey, i'm having an issue reinstalling ubuntu 9.10 - the installer will just randomly reboot during the install, but at different times...
[04:20] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: no kidding, flash is both horror and abuse
[04:20] <PapiChi> faileas exactly. Probably mostly for the LSO cookies
[04:21] <flexible> it comes after GRUB killed itself and wouldn't load the operating system as well
[04:21] <Snausages> PapiChi: have you seen click2flash on mac os?  I want something like that for ubuntu, with regards to youtube
[04:21] <HTT-Bird> flexible: that sounds like hardware perhaps?
[04:21] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird agreed
[04:21] <PapiChi> Snausages hmm I haven't but I'll check it out
[04:21] <PapiChi> I could rant about flash for hours. I'd better stop ;)
[04:21] <flexible> HTT-Bird - possibly, but what would hardware and how do i test
[04:22] <Snausages> PapiChi: when you go to youtube with the c2f plugin installed, it extracts the root URL of the h.264 video and pipelines that into quicktime, bypassing flash altogether.
[04:22] <fvs> any undelete for ext4?
[04:22] <minimec> zagabar: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=FAQ#Is_master_mode_or_promiscuous_mode_supported.3F
[04:22] <zagabar> minimec: Ah, okay. Yeah, I have three. Hmm that command failed. It says invalid argument.
[04:22] <PapiChi> Snausages ah, interesting. A bit hacky, but a solution
[04:22] <Snausages> PapiChi: it works so well you start thinking that flash is the "hacky" way :)
[04:23] <minimec> zagabar: master mode is not supported in ndiswrapper... So you can connect one more computer via wireless in ad-hoc mode.
[04:23] <Snausages> PapiChi: anyway, I want something like it for ubuntu, no dice yet
[04:23] <fvs> lost my angband savefile :(
[04:23] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: learn npapi and write it ;)
[04:24] <RobotCow> fvs photorec or testdisk maybe
[04:24] <faileas> Snausages: on the other hand, when HTML5 is wider spread... you wouldn't have to do that
[04:24] <zagabar> minimec: Aww, too bad. :/ Hm, what do you mean? Don't you mean "can't" and not "can"?
[04:24] <PapiChi> faileas I'm sure MS will break standards on the client side
[04:25] <faileas> PapiChi: MS is realising that they need to keep up ;p
[04:25] <Snausages> faileas: so what's holding it back?
[04:25] <faileas> besides, there's always flash as a fallback
[04:25] <fvs> RobotCow - disk is fine, computer overheated and cut out, but savefiile broke
[04:25] <LinuX2half> Computer isn't reacting to disc inserted.
[04:25] <duckwars> I have no idea where to even start to get my ssh speeds over my LAN faster.  Right now I only get 300KB/s over my LAN, when I can easily download 1MB/s over the internet... any thoughts?
[04:25] <faileas> Snausages: for one thing, there's a bit of arguement between ogg and h.264 iirc
[04:26] <HTT-Bird> duckwars: hmmm, does SSH rely on Nagling the way telnet does?
[04:26] <Snausages> faileas: weird...  why wouldn't it support * for video and plan for the browser to pipe it to whatever media system it already has?
[04:26] <faileas> Snausages: standards need to be... well standards. we wouldn't be in the mess with IE otherwise
[04:27] <duckwars> I'm not sure what Nagling is...
[04:27] <RobotCow> i updated my pidgin, and now the an icon doesn't show in the gnome-panel, nor does it show under the envelope icon
[04:27] <faileas> the idea is to have it done BY the browser
[04:27] <PapiChi> faileas exactly
[04:27] <Snausages> faileas: that's a lame idea.  I guess I'm done hoping for html 5 now
[04:27] <faileas> though the browser might have its own codec support
[04:27] <HTT-Bird> DuCkNeT: putc() a bunch of things into a socket ;) then you'll find out about nagling
[04:27] <PapiChi> We need enforceable standards with the death penalty as a penalty
[04:28] <faileas> Snausages: not really - how its implemented depends on the browser, but you WILL know any html5 browser WILL work with them
[04:28] <faileas> PapiChi: eh, first, you need to agree on a standard
[04:28] <minimec> zagabar: Check the mode of your wlan0 now. It should be in ad-hoc mode. IN that mode you can directly connect another wireless computer that is in ad-hoc mode too. If you want to connect to a router, you have to set the card in 'managed' mode. So you should be able to connect one wireless computer with your wlan0 in ad-hoc mode. That computer should be able to use the internet via eth0, if you set the routing right. wlan0 should have 19
[04:28] <Snausages> faileas: fair enough.  I want browsers that just passthru to my native media infrastructure.
[04:29] <PapiChi> faileas that's what the W3C is meant to be for
[04:29] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:29] <HTT-Bird> !loop
[04:29] <PapiChi> mount on loopback
[04:29] <HTT-Bird> !loopback
[04:29] <Snausages> Well I reckon the computing world is 10+ years away from standardizing video codecs...  would hate to see html 5 get held up waiting.
[04:30] <PapiChi> faileas and bodies like ISO and IETF are there. It is about different corporations/bodies adhereing to their standards
[04:30] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: I'd like a standard container at least :) (that way the codec march of technology can continue going, without file format differences throwing another spanner into the works)
[04:30] <PapiChi> !ot | PapiChi
[04:31] <zagabar> minimec: Oh, I see. Yes it is in ad-hoc mode right now. However when I connect to it from my laptop I still cannot ping anyhing. Then something else is wrong. wlan0 should have 19 what? 192.168.0.19 ?
[04:31] <isolat3dsh33p> Guys, is there anyway I can change my user name?
[04:31] <HTT-Bird> zagabar: let it find an IP itself
[04:32] <HTT-Bird> zagabar: or use the 192.168.0.19 on your wlan0 and use like 192.168.0.20 on the other box, assuming /24 netmask
[04:32] <HTT-Bird> isolat3dsh33p: Ubuntu username?
[04:32] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: still sounds like a tall order...  it would have to be ridiculously open (therefore open to abuse) and would likely have to avoid carrying any kind of license at all, just to be compatible with enough other licenses to make it practical & popular
[04:33] <faileas> PapiChi: more or less. i'd point out someone managed to  make MS OpenXML a standard  ;p
[04:33] <isolat3dsh33p> HTT-Bird, yes I guess. The UserID 1000
[04:33] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me figure out why I'm having trouble launching my network manager? Errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:33] <PapiChi> faileas oh no. You hit upon the other thing I like to rant about ;)
[04:33] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: why would a container's license have anything to do with the licenses of the codecs used by the streams within that container?
[04:33] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:34] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:34] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: guess I was thinking more about the browsers that open the containers, rather than the content inside them.
[04:34] <Xfact> what is the 'windows network' in Network folder? (or how it works?)
[04:34] <minimec> zagabar: The card of the computer that wants to connect to wlan has to be in ad-hoc mode too.. Your eth0 has 192.168.0.1 or something... right? So wlan0 must have something like 192.168.1.1 or something. You also need to enable masquerading... http://news.softpedia.com/news/Share-Internet-Connection-and-Set-up-Port-Forward-with-Guidedog-50091.shtml
[04:34] <HTT-Bird> !loopback | clayg
[04:34] <PapiChi> clayg you were told
[04:35] <buttons840> i have an ide raid card (must be fakeRaid, because i can see the individual drives in some circumstances); will it be possible to create a /boot outside of the regular raid?
[04:35] <HTT-Bird> isolat3dsh33p: man usermod
[04:35] <clayg> I appreciate it HTT-Bird
[04:35] <clayg> and PapiChi sorry, I didn't see the screen lit up
[04:35] <clayg> p
[04:35] <isolat3dsh33p> HTT-Bird, ok, thanks :)
[04:35] <PapiChi> clayg ok, sorry. It just hit 40C (104F) here. I'm a little grumpy ;)
[04:36] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:36] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: that said, the container would have to be open to all sorts of stuff inside it- multiple av streams, packaged proprietary drm schemes, all sorts of metadata and "infinite" forward extensibility
[04:36] <clayg> :)
[04:37] <wolfgangcs> need help with new installation and adding a home partition on second hdd
[04:37] <zagabar> minimec: Oh, so the two cards cannot be on the same subnet? I will try. I think masquerading is enabled... at least I can connect with computers to eth1.
[04:37] <maliks> does anyone know where should i go for any questions on ubuntu training
[04:37] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, are you using a standard install cd?
[04:38] <PapiChi> maliks right here
[04:38] <PapiChi> maliks just start using it, then asking
[04:38] <maliks> great. i am looking for a book to study ucp. any recommendations?
[04:38] <paissad> i have no more sound mates, i don't know why ... i think it's like that since i upgrade to 2.6.31-17 ubuntu kernel
[04:38] <paissad> i have no more sound mates, i don't know why ... i think it's like that since i upgrade to 2.6.31-17 ubuntu kernel
[04:38] <HTT-Bird> I'm outta here. :) gotta get some sleep
[04:38] <wolfgangcs> uttons840: ordered a  desktop from ubuntu
[04:38] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:39] <PapiChi> maliks heh, the last linux book I bought was regarding redhat 3.x ... a general book on linux should do the job though
[04:39] <yester64> hi
[04:39] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i know how to set it up at install time, but not otherwise
[04:39] <maliks> ok. thanks PapiChi. 2nd question. I am already LPIC-1 certified. any point doing UCP now?
[04:40] <Tek-5-8-6> just installed a PCI SATA card and ubuntu did not install the drivers for it. How can I do this manualy?
[04:40] <minimec> zagabar: Yes... They have to be in a different subnet.
[04:40] <PapiChi> maliks I dunno. My only certs are my university degrees :)
[04:40] <wolfgangcs> buttons840: what if I did not use a partiton but just directed it to a folder on the 2nd hdd
[04:40] <yester64> i am happy :)
[04:41] <ViridianFire> AlsaMixer seems to have my headphone jack muted and wont let my change the volume, does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:41] <zagabar> minimec: Yay, it works! I have cinnected wirelessly now. =) Thanks. Are you sure btw that it won't work if I connect more computers wirelessly?
[04:41] <maliks> i am a certification freak :) thanks for your answer anyways
[04:42] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i know you can set specific partitions to be mounted at boot, so you could set the 2nd drive to be mounted as /home and then the other (original?) drive to be root  /
[04:42] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, every PCI SATA card I've seen is supported out of the box.  What kind of card is it?
[04:42] <buttons840> i don't know how to do this after the install, although i'm sure it's possible
[04:42] <Tek-5-8-6> Let me check mate
[04:42] <minimec> zagabar: Nice ;) You need a linux compatible device that can be switched in to master mode, as we stated above ...
[04:42] <PapiChi> maliks well, in that case, go for it!
[04:42] <ViridianFire> It has a green box with 2 zeros but no volume bar
[04:42] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, is there any reason not to do a fresh install?
[04:43] <zagabar> minimec: Alrgiht. But hey, I only have one computer capable of connecting wirelessly anyway! Thanks a lot for the help. =)
[04:43] <maliks> :) i sure will.. i guess my lpic-1 knowledge and a thorough review of UCP exam objectives would suffice. i gave the assessment exam online and got all correct.
[04:43] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:I don't see why not...let me switch machines on IRC so I can get this started...sound good?  and thanks!
[04:44] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, read here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-146713.html
[04:44] <Tek-5-8-6> Silicon Image Sil 3114
[04:44] <minimec> zagabar: np... Maybe ad-hoc mode will be lost after next boot. Yoe may have to configure the ad-hoc mode with the network-manager GUI.
[04:44] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, that thread shows someone sucessfully adding a second partition as /home after install
[04:44] <maliks> Papichi thanks for entertaining my questions. later
[04:45] <ViridianFire> In AlsaMixer there is no volume bar for my headphone jack?
[04:45] <PapiChi> maliks ciao
[04:45] <zagabar> minimec: I see. I cannot. I have command line only.
[04:45] <Tek-5-8-6> I have 3 drives connected ot it and these do not show up at all
[04:46] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, odd... nothing about them in dmesg?
[04:46] <uman> how can I install the LaTeX fullpage package on ubuntu?
[04:46] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get network manager working? I removed the top panel that had the icon, and I cannot add the icon to any other panel because it does not show up in the list. Additionally I cannot launch it using the command nm-applet because I get these errors:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:47] <Tek-5-8-6> Im a bit new mate, this is a terminal command yes?
[04:47] <Tek-5-8-6> I will check
[04:47] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:what would you recommendation for a install and home partitioning off a 40gb hdd?
[04:47] <minimec> zagabar: How did you configure the different cards? With iwconfig and ifconfig? If you did it like that, then the old debian way (configure /etc/network/interfaces) could be a solution for you, to make changes permanent.
[04:47] <ryanCH> i just noticed something very strange...
[04:48] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i dunno, 20/20?
[04:48] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, you asking about sizes?
[04:48] <Tek-5-8-6> Matir: What should I be looking for ?
[04:48] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, run the following commands and drop their output in http://pastebin.com/ if you don't mind: 'dmesg' 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:48] <zagabar> minimec: Yeah, with those. Are all those commands reverted after a reboot?
[04:48] <ryanCH> i got onto my computer and i noticed my cpu usage is 40%... and i noticed tcpdump is running the cpu at that percentage, but it's being run as root.. i never even started tcpdump .. what is going on?
[04:49] <Tek-5-8-6> ok
[04:49] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:yeah I may just slap a bigger one in...but i don't want to lose what is on the second hdd yet
[04:49] <Tek-5-8-6> there is lots of stuff. Quite long. Will pate it to you
[04:49] <Matir> ryanCH, install any new software?
[04:49] <minimec> zagabar: Yes they are, but if you configure /etc/network/interfaces, the changes would be permanent.
[04:49] <ryanCH> Matir, no not recently..
[04:50] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:trying to decide to do a 20/20....but what I have in my dropbox is bigger than 20GB
[04:50] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, what happend to having 2 drives?
[04:50] <zagabar> minimec: Okay, I'll try to do that then, thanks.^^
[04:50] <minimec> zagabar: again... no problem ;)
[04:50] <merc3nary> what does it mean if ubuntu won't install. just stays at the kernel compiler awaiting input?
[04:50] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:I have drivers and media on the second hdd and not ready to format yet
[04:51] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:and the linux transfer rates are so much slower than windoze...at least from what I can tell
[04:51] <Matir> ryanCH, I'd be curious to see the output of ps -ef, to see what may have started tcpdump
[04:51] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, must be a config problem, there is no reason linux should be slower
[04:52] <ryanCH> Matir, i just terminated it a few seconds ago (tcpdump)
[04:52] <Matir> ryanCH, ah
[04:53] <ryanCH> Matir, what do you think it could be?
[04:53] <Bakefy> Hello everyone!
[04:54] <Matir> ryanCH, hard to say.  Are there any programs you ever use that might have started it?  Any network/packet analyzers, etc?
[04:54] <Bakefy> I have a question reguarding putting ubuntu on my ps3, but no one seems to be on the #ubuntu-ps3 channel
[04:55] <Bakefy> Anyone here tried putting ubuntu on their ps3 before?
[04:55] <ryanCH> Matir, i do use tcpdump every now and then.. but i never leave it running nor do i run it as root ;p
[04:55] <infid> how can i share my Music folder in ubuntu 9.10?
[04:56] <ComputerNoobie> hey... my main goal is to get paid. i am plannign on getting certified in redhat, but my heart says mcse. does it make sense to assume that most companies using linux is because they can't afford microsoft, and since they cant afford microsoft, its also safe to assume that they wont pay as much as companies who use microsoft? so by this logic, from a money perspective, i should go for msce instead of redhat
[04:56] <ryanCH> Matir, could this be some sort of automated task? can i find out if it is?
[04:56] <faileas> ComputerNoobie: the logic is flawed
[04:56] <faileas> people use MS cause they are used to it
[04:56] <faileas> lots of big companies use linux, cause its what they want to use
[04:56] <sync3times> People are used by MS
[04:56] <maco> ComputerNoobie: nah, many companies use linux because of the stability and are willing to pay a premium for sysadmins who know it
[04:56] <faileas> hell MS claims linux ois more expensive :)
[04:56] <uman> ComputerNoobie: Google uses Linux
[04:57] <Matir> ryanCH, tcpdump is most often used as root... you could look and see if there's anything in /etc/cron.* for cronjobs
[04:57] <maco> ComputerNoobie: mcse's are a dime a dozen. people who know linux well enough that in a pinch they can be useful on aix or solaris, though? *useful*!
[04:57] <sync3times> ryanCH, what is the parent process of your tcpdump.
[04:57] <faileas> maco: that too. linux skills are suprisingly portable after a point ;)
[04:58] <maco> (*cough* not that i've been told to do development work on aix on the basis of my linux skills or anything... *cough*)
[04:58] <Bubblehead> Also allot of companies that are using Linux is because they used Unix and if you need database service MS SQL is not an answer.
[04:58] <PapiChi> If you are developing the platform should be irrelevant. You either have the skills or you don't. Sys adminning is a whole different proposition
[04:59] <ViridianFire> My headphone jack doesnt work and I dont have a clue why, can anyone help?
[04:59] <uman> Bubblehead: Of course it isn't. MS Access is the answer. Duh.
[04:59] <uman> Bubblehead: (True story where I worked last summer)
[04:59] <Bakefy> I installed ubuntu 9.10 on my PS3 using petitboot.  I am not seeing a hard drive after installing... anyone know what I am talking about?
[04:59] <Bubblehead> uman -- LOL and ouch
[05:01] <paragonc> howdy - i dont have a dvd reader and i want to install ubuntu - i have the .iso and a 5GB partition - im currently running ubuntu 8.04 - is there a way to tell grub to treat a partition like a boot cd?
[05:01] <ViridianFire> Okay so my headphone jack doesnt work, neither my headphones nor speakers are reciveing a signal form it under ubuntu, under windows they work fine
[05:01] <ChappiPi> hmm
[05:01] <Jasonrj> How can I restart the gui without restarting the whole computer? I seem to remember from a linux class I took a long time ago that there was a way to do that. Like by hitting Ctrl + Alt + F1 and then typing a command there?
[05:01] <ChappiPi> The freenode admins didn't like my platform neutral comments ;)
[05:01] <daftykins> Jasonrj: ctrl+alt+f1 sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:02] <daftykins> or of it's karmic, sudo service gdm restart
[05:02] <infid> is it safe to share ~/Music or will it potentially make it so other users can access any file in your home dir?
[05:02] <Serpher> Jasonrj: It's changed a bit in 9.10: $sudo restart gdm
[05:02] <e_losier> I'm trying to install server ubuntu 9.10.  But it always either fail while partitioning or when installing base system (a perl deb corrupted).  I burned the CD twice, second time at 1X.  both verifies OK.  Any idea?
[05:02] <Serpher> jasonrj: Otherwise use $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:02] <Jasonrj> Thanks
[05:02] <daftykins> there's that echo problem in here back again ^_^
[05:02] <sync3times> e_losier, is this the first linux install for this machine?
[05:02] <Serpher> np
[05:03] <e_losier> Yes, it's brand new.
[05:03] <sync3times> e_losier, what processor?
[05:03] <pauljw> ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restart x anymore
[05:03] <ArielMT> hello.  how do i find out which packages apt-get upgrade installed and when?  my load average has been at least 4.00 since friday, and i don't know why.  ubuntu 9.04
[05:03] <pauljw> ??
[05:03] <sync3times> pauljw, they turn that off in ubuntu
[05:04] <ArielMT> also, i suspect an update as the cause, but i don't know which one(s)
[05:04] <Serpher> You can instlal something called dontzap to use that hotkey to restart your gdm using hotkeys
[05:04] <sync3times> pauljw, you can ctrl-alt-f1 and login in and restart gdm
[05:04] <Serpher> Google it, I think it won't work untill you restart your ocmputer though
[05:05] <e_losier> sync3time : AMD PHENOM X4 9650
[05:05] <sync3times> e_losier,   hmm,  is there an AMD server version?  are you installing that one?
[05:08] <infid> to share my ~/Music folder should i right-click on it and choose 'share' using windows networks sharing service, or should i use smbfs?
[05:09] <ChappiPi> hmm the Chinese gov't hacked my pr0n directory
[05:09] <Tek-5-8-6> lol
[05:09] <Jasonrj> Added block blur all over?
[05:09] <ChappiPi> horny little dudes
[05:09] <ChappiPi> !ot ChappiPi
[05:09] <happy> !language | ChappiPi :-P
[05:10] <Dextronaught> which version of Skype should I get?
[05:10] <Dextronaught> since most ppl complain about problems
[05:10] <uman> Jasonrj: hahahahaha
[05:10] <ChappiPi> happy good point
[05:10] <e_losier> sync3time : the iso is called "ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso" ...
[05:10] <ChappiPi> besides, it wasn't the Chinese. It was me.
[05:11] <Dextronaught> which version of Skype should I get?
[05:11] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught I may be going out on a limb here, but how about the one in the repos?
[05:11] <Dextronaught> what do you mean repos?
[05:12] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught I think I'll bow out of this one. Ask again
[05:12] <ardchoille> !repos
[05:12] <ardchoille> Dextronaught: ^^
[05:12] <Dextronaught> Oo :o
[05:13] <maverick> how can i get to the notification settings as shown in this screenshot?? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce
[05:13] <ardchoille> Dextronaught: that is why I haven't had to compile anything in the 5 years that I've used Ubuntu :)
[05:14] <ardchoille> maverick: That looks like it's specific to the xfce desktop
[05:14] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught in console (terminal, whatever you want to call it) "sudo apt-get install skype"
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: well, it is
[05:15] <ardchoille> maverick: are you running xfce?
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: yes
[05:15] <ChappiPi> although I'm sure the hardcore GUIers will lead you to synaptic :)
[05:15] <ardchoille> maverick: Then you need to ask in #xubuntu
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: thanks
[05:15] <ardchoille> yw
[05:16] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught feel free to thank me at your leisure
[05:18] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my network manager working? I removed the panel that had the icon, and for some reason it does not show up as something I can add to any of the other panels. When trying the nm-applet command I get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[05:18] <iqbal1> test
[05:18] <ckhikuzad_> how am i in here!? god my modem is so retarded
[05:18] <LinuX2half> can I burn an iso image to a DVD?
[05:19] <ardchoille> The notifications bubbles that popup in the upper right corner in KArmix. How can I theme those?
[05:19] <ChappiPi> jasonb it's running. Kill it. "sudo killall nm-applet"
[05:19] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: yes
[05:19]  * jasonb blinks
[05:19] <astrojp> Anyone know how to get the iPod Shuffle 'Model A1271' to work on Ubuntu? GTKpod doesn't seem to recognize it.
[05:19] <ChappiPi> jasonb sorry pappy
[05:19] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj it's running. Kill it. "sudo killall nm-applet"
[05:20] <iqbal1> this is the first time i join to this room
[05:20] <ardchoille> !hcl | astrojp check the HCL for possible tricks on that
[05:20] <LinuX2half> how do I run md5sum
[05:21] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: md5sum filename
[05:21] <ChappiPi> LinuX2half well, you are pretty close already ...
[05:21] <astrojp> thanks ubottu :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> !Thanks
[05:22] <LinuX2half> so if the image is ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso, then I'll type the name of the file along with md5sum?
[05:22] <duckwars> doesw anyone know what changing GSSAPIKeyExchange no to GSSAPIKeyExchange yes will do.  It is in ssh_config
[05:22] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: md5sum/path/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso
[05:22] <triddle> dmesg | egrep -i “sound|audio|snd” <=- What does this message do, and what does it mean if the results are nothing?
[05:23] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: sorry, forgot the space: md5sum /path/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso
[05:23] <ChappiPi> ardchoille lucky. He was about to ask again ;)
[05:23] <ardchoille> I figured that :)
[05:23] <LinuX2half> Then what do I type if the image is located in my download folder?
[05:24] <ardchoille> It's this silly keyboard, it prints what I type instead of what I meant
[05:24] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: That's the "/path" bit
[05:24] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi: I killed it, then tried running it, I still cannot run it. Instead of getting an error it just does nothing when I type the command
[05:24] <buttons840> i installed ubuntu in a computer with a pentium 4 (single core of course), and it shows cpu1 and cpu2 in the system monitor?
[05:24] <ardchoille> LinuX2half:  md5sum ~/Downloads/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso  ?
[05:24] <Myke1> @buttons could be a HT Pentium 4?
[05:25] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj uh ok. Try "killall nm-applet; nm-applet &"
[05:25] <buttons840> Myke1, maybe, but it's 2.6 ghz and i thought only 3ghz plus were ht?
[05:25] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj then "ps aux | grep nm-applet" for giggles
[05:25] <Myke1> @ buttons: Hyperthreaded cores show up as 2 cores, even though HT is one real core and one virtual
[05:25] <Myke1> hmmm
[05:26] <duckwars> can anyone help me do better than 300KB/s transfer between me and my home server? I am on the same network as the other computer but I only get 300KB/s.  This is lame
[05:26] <iflema> jasonrj try this... might work nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:26] <minimec> buttons840: I had that surprice a few weeks ago. You have one of these hyperthreading versions of the pentium 4. It simulates a dualcore. I installed ubuntu for a friend a few weeks ago... ;)
[05:26] <NotTooSmart> dmesg | grep ata
[05:26] <NotTooSmart>  says im using a 40-wire cable but im sure im not, how do I fix this?
[05:26] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart like before; use an 80 pin cable
[05:27] <Myke1> Yeah Buttons, I see a 2.6Ghz HT core on the list of CPUs
[05:27] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, i switched it to an 80 wire....
[05:27] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart ah ok. You are *sure* you are using an 80 pin ...
[05:27] <buttons840> Myke1, heh, good to know i guess thanks for the pleasent news
[05:27] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, it looks just like the 80pin shown here... http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html
[05:27] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart are you also sure your hd is capable of whatever UDMA you are going for?
[05:28] <Myke1> No problem, Enjoy :)
[05:28] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart checked with hdparm?
[05:28] <Jasonrj> Ok, I can now kill nm-applet. But I still cannot run it. I typed everything you guys suggested but all gives the same result: nothing. Typing nm-applet into the terminal or after hitting Alt+F2 simply does nothing. In the terminal it goes down to the next line, but does not bring back the prompt, so I cannot do anything else.
[05:28] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart and finally, your controller might not be capable of handling the 80 pin and reverts to 40
[05:29] <LinuX2half> Then is it possible to burn an iso9660 image?
[05:29] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj what do you get when you type "ps aux |grep nm-applet" ?
[05:29] <ardchoille> jasonb: I was under the impression that an applet was something you needed to add to the panel in order to use
[05:29] <Flare-Laptop> Jasonrj: its a applet that goes on the gnome-panel
[05:29] <ardchoille> I thought so
[05:29] <ardchoille> Thank you Flare-Laptop
[05:29] <ChappiPi> er yeah, that too :)
[05:30] <Flare-Laptop> :)
[05:30] <Jasonrj> I know, my original problem was that I deleted the panel that contained it. I then could not add it to any other panel because it did not show up in the list. Someone advised I type the command nm-applet and I was getting errors
[05:30] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, well, its a dimension 2400 the web says it can do udma 100
[05:30] <bernie1> hello world
[05:31] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi, I get  "jason    2238  0.0  0.3   3036   792 pts/0     R+   13:30    ):00 grep  - -color=au to nm-applet"
[05:31] <Voss> nottoosmart, basically you have an ide hard drive.
[05:31] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart hmm, ok. Have you looked at the hd itself and seen if you have to move the jumpers on it?
[05:32] <ChappiPi> Voss and that's the next area of inquiry :)
[05:32] <Voss> ata is ide
[05:32] <NotTooSmart> its an SATAII hd through an adapter.. im sure it can do faster than 33mb/sec
[05:32] <NotTooSmart> [    1.337154] ata1.01: ATA-8: WDC WD3200AAKS-00L9A0, 01.03E01, max UDMA/133
[05:32] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart I'm thinking the adapter could be the problem maybe then
[05:32] <buttons840> "silicon has just about reached it's limits as far as heat and electricity are concerned."  <- from a 2005 hardware forum discussing the amazing new duel-core processors, and speculating on whether something crazy like a "quad-core" might be possible :)
[05:33] <Voss> 33mbs is the limit through a pci card I believe,
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> its not a pci card though.
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> it just hooks on to ide cable
[05:33] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart got any info on the adapter?
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, hrm. one minute
[05:34] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119257&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Adapters+and+gender+changers-_-Rosewill-_-12119257
[05:35] <LinuX2half> I'm having problem with k3b
[05:35] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj you could always admit defeat and reinstall networkmanager ...
[05:35] <LinuX2half> Can't burn the image because of an error code 254
[05:35] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, I really did switch the cable... im not sure why its not working right..
[05:35] <Darkedge> Can someone tell me lightweight alternitives to the following, Firefox, Evolution, Irssi, and basicly everything that should be changed in Ubuntu 9.04
[05:36] <blakkheim> Darkedge: uhh what's not lightweight about irssi?
[05:36] <LinuX2half> Is anyone familiar with this?
[05:36] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: Xubuntu? Lubuntu? Don't use any metapackages.
[05:36] <obiwan_> please 1 question, is there any kind of privilege to access other users files based on the id number? for example, having a higher id than one user, or lower? thanks
[05:36] <ardchoille> LinuX2half:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2877869
[05:36] <yoyoma> light web browser = dillo
[05:36] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi: I guess... I just think it's weird that it was there and working fine, I removed the panel that contained it, and now it is forever broken?
[05:37] <buttons840> Darkedge, just use telnet for irc if you want something ligther than irssi :)
[05:37] <Darkedge> blakkheim: uhm someone told me yesturday irssi was a big resource hog, and was firefox
[05:37] <faileas> lol
[05:37] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart hmm, well it should do the right speeds. I really don't know. Maybe someone else can figure it out
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  compared to other apps.. i doubt if irssi is using much resources
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  try weechat I guess.
[05:37] <blakkheim> Darkedge: irssi is a commandline irc client, it is FAR from a resource hog. your "friend" has no idea what he's talking about
[05:37] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: Firefox. Sure. irssi? I'd be surprised if it is.
[05:37] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, idk, maybe it is the wire...
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  thers opera and google-chrome browser as alterantives
[05:37] <blakkheim> Darkedge: although i concede to the fact that firefox is bloated. it is.
[05:37] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: here's another one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/i-cant-burn-data-cds-or-isos-with-k3b-error-code-254-wtf-193324/
[05:38] <Darkedge> OK Then can someone tell me some good alternitives > Firefox then cause that does seem to hog.
[05:38] <faileas> Darkedge: i use a system with swiftfox (its a lighter firefox build) though there's a load of good light web browsers like arora. If you need a good light graphical irc client, go for lostirc
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  thers opera and google-chrome browser as alterantives
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  and disable flash
[05:38] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj ok, well I'm flying blind here because I use wicd over networkmanager
[05:39] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: epiphany-browser, opera, chrome, midori,
[05:39] <ardchoille> Darkedge: as Dr_Willis stated, opera and chrome are both quite fast here
[05:39] <faileas> Dr_Willis: eh, if you don't need flash, pretty much any semi modern browser would be great
[05:39] <iWolf> For Wubi Do I Select My C: Drive?
[05:39] <lxaaaa> I lost my desktop taskbars in a crash.  How do I get them back?
[05:39] <Darkedge> I might try chrome, Is it in the repos?
[05:39] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, is this the right one? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Z5PZ/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A3TWH6Q6VO6EQF&v=glance
[05:39] <ardchoille> fwiw, opera no longer needs tons of kde libs
[05:39] <Voss> supposedly firefox 3.6 is much less of a memory hog
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  google has its own repos for  the latest versions
[05:40] <ardchoille> Darkedge: chrome.google.com
[05:41] <Dr-Digi__> Im kinda new to ubuntu im using a live cd and attempting to view some files fro
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Theres just a few things about chrome that cause me issues.. and keep me using firefox at times
[05:41] <faileas> Dr_Willis: until recently lack of adblock was one for me ;p
[05:41] <Dr-Digi__> m my dead mac
[05:41] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart that's a 40 pin isn't it?
[05:41] <ChappiPi> faileas noscript is one for me
[05:41] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, can you show me the one I need?
[05:42] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart in a word? no
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  even with adblock - i still have a few sites that have Popups on Chrome - that DONT happen on firefox.. those pesky tiorrent sites. :)
[05:42] <Darkedge> ardchoille: Right when I delete Firefox -_- Can someone tell me how to install google chrome...
[05:42] <Dr-Digi__> Is there anything special i need to do in order to view them in the gui?
[05:42] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis well Chrome "adblock" doesn't block - it hides
[05:42] <ardchoille> Darkedge: download the chrome package and : sudo dpkg -i filename
[05:42] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, I believe you can't get files from a LiveCD from your mac
[05:43] <iflema> jasonrj the erros indicate its still running?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Been mixxing in privoxy with chrome and gettting some better results.. but pately ive seen wjhere Privoxy is crashing on me in 9.10
[05:43] <Darkedge> :( I need to get the link to the package, I gotta use wget now.
[05:43] <ChappiPi> Until there is addons for noscript/flashblock (or I write them) Chrome is a no go
[05:43] <ardchoille> Darkedge: chrome adds a file to your sources that keeps the browser updated
[05:43] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis yeah, I was doing the privoxy way for a while
[05:44] <Dr-Digi__> Any chance i could install on a 4 gb cf?
[05:44] <Darkedge> ardchoille: I need the link to the dpkg file, I deleted firefox.
[05:44] <ardchoille> Darkedge: I don't think you can do that, you have to agree to a license page before downloading it
[05:44] <Dr-Digi__> Or somehow use it with the live cd for the updatez and save settinfs ect?
[05:44] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, 4GB Is Required For An Install Of Ubuntu 9.10
[05:44] <faileas> Darkedge: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa i use this repo
[05:44] <Darkedge> -_- I can't use Firefox lol
[05:45] <Darkedge> *reinstalls firefox*
[05:45] <ChappiPi> I seriously don't understand how people can browse without NoScript. Scary :)
[05:45] <ardchoille> Darkedge: was just going to advise that :)
[05:45] <Voss> iwolf 4gb of disk space not 4gb of memory :)
[05:45] <iWolf> Oops
[05:45] <ardchoille> Darkedge: Also, chrome can import firefox bookmarks and settings
[05:45] <iWolf> Thought he said disk space
[05:45] <faileas> Darkedge: eh, if you want to stick to firefox http://getswiftfox.com/ is a LOT faster than the ubuntu default builds
[05:45] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart if you look yourself and really can't find the right one I'll help
[05:45] <LinuX2half> BRB
[05:46] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: I can since my firewall/Gateway takes care of all that BS
[05:46] <Dr-Digi__> I have a 4 gb cf empty and i got 8 gigs of ram
[05:46] <syn-ack> :P
[05:46] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, the problem is man, im pretty sure judging by the picture I showed you earlier, that I do have the right  cable connected already.....
[05:46] <Voss> I have installed 9.10 on netbooks with 512mb of memory and a 4gb flash drive
[05:46] <ChappiPi> syn-ack your firewall/gateway isn't going to take care of javascript
[05:46] <ardchoille> The only thing I don't like about chrome is that google's theme department must be color blind
[05:46] <Darkedge> OK I'll do that, can you guys umm tell me how to get the most cutting-edge intel driver?
[05:46] <Dr-Digi__> I saw the files on the mac hd for a split second and it all disapperwd
[05:46] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart but that one even said "40 pin"
[05:47] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to get the status of a RAID 5 array?
[05:47] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: Sure it does. it blocks javaScript quite well
[05:47] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, if you can just show me a picture of the right one ill be set ;-d
[05:47] <Bakefy> Has anyone here installed ubuntu on a ps3?
[05:47] <quentusrex> it didn't mount when the machine came back up...
[05:47] <quentusrex> and it says the resource is busy
[05:47] <Dr-Digi__> This is a quad core gateway i got for free
[05:47] <Voss> ideally you would prefer at least 8gb of ssd or hard drive space
[05:47] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, Wow
[05:47] <Jasonrj> iflema: I guess it was already running, it killed it with the killall command. I don't know how to add it to the panel though because it was not in the list of items I could add anymore. Someone suggested reinstalling, so I'm trying to figure out how to do that now. This is where I usually give up and forget Linux for a year or two :\
[05:47] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, I'm using a Gateway
[05:47] <keepsake> Is it worth it for me to try to up my ext3 fs to ext4?
[05:48] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, Anyways, you have more than enough RAM/disk space to install Ubuntu
[05:48] <iflema> jasonrj hit this a few times in a row quick using ya bash history ' nm-applet --sm-disable ' itll knock it out and restart,,,,, slapit around. without sudo
[05:48] <ChappiPi> syn-ack no, I mean the point is not a blanket ban of javascript, it is to selectively run it on certain sites (whitelist) and only the scripts you choose
[05:48] <daftykins> does anyone have any experience with LIRC? i want to try and identify the hex code to accompany an unsupported button on my fully working remote control
[05:48] <iWolf> For Wubi Do I Select My C: Drive?
[05:48] <Dr-Digi__> Iwolf then why doesnt it ever seem to finish?
[05:48] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, http://www.xpcgear.com/idecable18.html
[05:48] <ChappiPi> syn-ack if you are going to block it all you might as well disable it in your browser
[05:49] <Jasonrj> iflema: I tried that and it kept doing nothing. I have already uninstalled it.. Now I'm trying to figure out how to install this thing again.
[05:49] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: well, Then the lil checkbox in my firewall must be a lie
[05:49] <Voss> I bought a refurb EEEpc 901 for $129 and put 9.04 ubuntu on it but ill probably wind up putting chrome on it this year
[05:49] <ardchoille> syn-ack: what firewall?
[05:50] <lxaaaa> I lost my desktop taskbars in a crash.  How do I get them back?
[05:50] <syn-ack> ardchoille: DD-WRT... more or less iptables when it comes down to it
[05:50] <LinuX2half> okay now I receive the message that it can't open a new session
[05:50] <LinuX2half> How can I resolve that kind of problem?
[05:50] <Dr-Digi__> Any chance i could get someone to remote desktop in?
[05:50] <keepsake> lxaaaa: By taskbar do you mean panel?
[05:50] <ChappiPi> syn-ack I'm not arguing the point that you can stop all javascript. I'm saying you don't want to do that. You want to be able to whitelist certain scripts
[05:50] <Dr-Digi__> I like pfsense myself
[05:50] <LinuX2half> Anyone here is familiar with k3b?
[05:50] <lxaaaa> keepsake: yes
[05:50] <ardchoille> syn-ack: I don't even bother with a firewall, not needed for my system
[05:50] <ChappiPi> I like ipf ... any other takers?
[05:50] <namzezam> what is iee3 1394 in kino , how to capture in ubuntu?
[05:50] <LinuX2half> I've just stumbling on  the errors now
[05:51] <Bakefy> anyone here install on ps3?
[05:51] <keepsake> lxaaaa: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[05:51] <LinuX2half> first of all, I gave the program sudo power to operate at the interior level
[05:51] <lxaaaa> keepsake: thanks
[05:51] <LinuX2half> But it said that the mftios crashed
[05:51] <keepsake> lxaaaa: That'll reset your panels, you'll have to re-customize them.
[05:51] <LinuX2half> Unbelievable
[05:51] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: You're gonna have to forgive me. I took my meds so I'm REALLY fscking loopy right now. wasnt trying to argue just now "clicked"
[05:51] <Voss> ard, most of us just use hardware firewalls anyway
[05:52] <ChappiPi> syn-ack it's all good. :)
[05:52] <namzezam> what is iee3 1394 in kino , how to capture in ubuntu?
[05:52] <LinuX2half> I'm trying to burn a disc image and the program is producing these errors that suppose to tell me whats going on but actually only bewilders me more
[05:52] <namzezam> can i record vid in ubuntu ?
[05:52] <syn-ack> Voss: All firewalls are software. :P regardless if they are an appliance or not. :P
[05:52] <syn-ack> Voss: and THAT one was to bust the boys if you know what I mean. :D
[05:52] <gbear14275> can anyone tell me what appears to be happening in this error message?  I'm stumped http://paste.ubuntu.com/357892/
[05:52] <LinuX2half> Is anyone familiar with k3b program?
[05:52] <iWolf> namzezam: Via Cheese I Think
[05:52] <keepsake> syn-ack: Unless you have a real flaming wall =O
[05:53] <syn-ack> keepsake: HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?! :P
[05:53] <LinuX2half> I'm suppose I don't have to go to the kde channel to resolve such issue now would I?
[05:53] <syn-ack> LinuX2half: what about it?
[05:53] <Voss> syn-ack, lets put it this way, a firewall not in the computer
[05:53] <LinuX2half> well, I suppose I could...
[05:53] <syn-ack> Voss: I was kidding. :P
[05:53] <Bakefy> playstation 3... anyone install ubuntu on it?
[05:53] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: #kubuntu might know of an answer
[05:53] <ChappiPi> does my 1000H EEPC running openbox with ipf, and acting as a gateway count as a "hardware firewall"? :)
[05:53] <syn-ack> What was the amaroK question
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> !ps3
[05:54] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart sorry, I'll look now
[05:54] <LinuX2half> okay see ya
[05:54] <Bakefy> Getting hit with bots... great
[05:54] <syn-ack> Ugh holy hell, I was trying to hell him!
[05:54] <Voss> chappi, no it counts as a popcorn popper
[05:54] <Bakefy> crickets in the other channels
[05:54] <ChappiPi> Voss bzzt
[05:55] <flexible> Hey, after formatting my drives, i reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10 and it will not boot, i get "GRUB loading.|error: no such disk|grub rescue> _".... i reformatted because grub was failing to boot (seemingly randomly) to my 9.10 partition... help?
[05:55] <namzezam> i ave accer aspire one, i did cheese but i did not get the audio but noise and also gut it with strange colors, please let me know what should i install , i do have vlc and have problem with the audio to , only on pulse it works but then with noise again, and that kino thing, well this never let me actully rerding
[05:55] <ChappiPi> I'll let you in on a secret about hardware firewalls. They run software.
[05:55] <syn-ack> Voss your first name doesnt happen to be Rich, does it?
[05:55] <ChappiPi> shocking, but true
[05:55] <monchevique> hi
[05:55] <Voss> no syn
[05:55] <ChappiPi> or ever firmware
[05:56] <namzezam> it must be simple, where in one functuning manual for ubuntu 9.10 for recording vid on acer aspire one?
[05:56] <syn-ack> Voss: bah. :p
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> namzezam:  ive noticed on my AAO webcam odd colors if im under some specific kinds of lights. at work under mercery lights its got a greenish tint. but in the office under floresant  - it looks normal..
[05:56] <monchevique> why does it say that i havent registrered my nickname when i have?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> namzezam:  other then that - iove no issues ion my AAO with the UNR edition,.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> monchevique:  did you identify when you connected?
[05:57] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: which is normal when you think about it
[05:57] <monchevique> yes
[05:57] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart yeah, that one looks right
[05:57] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, alright thanks tty.
[05:57] <flexible> Hey, after formatting my drives, i reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10 and it will not boot, i get "GRUB loading.|error: no such disk|grub rescue> _".... i reformatted because grub was failing to boot (seemingly randomly) to my 9.10 partition... help?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> syn-ack:  Yep.  Just made me think my AAO was broken once when i tried it at work. :)   its got a REAL weird color differance in the differance lights.. but they are Industural High power Merc. lamps. (or argon, or whatever they are)
[05:58] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: heheh
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> syn-ack:  gotta love lamps with a 2 ft long light bulb. :)
[05:58] <syn-ack> hah
[05:59] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis hmm, I think they have you working under hydroponic grow lamps
[05:59] <namzezam> i have prob with the audion, pulse and vlc do not like each other i try hw:0,0 and then have no sound, i think i should kill something and un instll it or so, where cn i find nice tutirial for it?
[05:59] <troopperi> flexible: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802
[06:00] <ChappiPi> I use crunchbang (ubuntu derived) on my netbook, for what it's worth
[06:00] <ChappiPi> it's both crunchy, yet bangy
[06:01] <Voss> chappi, I use mint 8 on my notebook its also ubuntu derived
[06:01] <PappiChi> Voss working nicely on it?
[06:02]  * Dr_Willis uses Ubuntu.. its ubuntu derived....
[06:02] <Voss> Yep
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> and Full of Vitiman U
[06:02] <Voss> Mint 8 is based on ubuntu 9.10
[06:02] <flexible> Voss: is Mint good?
[06:02]  * Dr_Willis thinks Mint is behind in its version #'s
[06:02] <PappiChi> Voss yeah. I might give it whirl actually
[06:03] <keepsake> flexible: Better try it for yourself
[06:03] <Voss> flexible, yes it is. A bit more stable than ubuntu main. I also like the fact they put the task bar on the bottom not the top
[06:04] <Voss> and its green
[06:04] <flexible> keepsake: i'm burning it as we speak... i downloaded it the other day, was just wanting an opinion
[06:04] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis well, Ubuntu is debian derived ... but don't get angry
[06:04] <PappiChi> simply I prefer openbox and debian-like architecture. After that , it's all good
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> PappiChi:  and i seem to recall Mandrake being redhat derrived - like 7+ yrs ago......
[06:05] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis stop! I feel faint
[06:05]  * Dr_Willis goes back to Minix :P
[06:05] <Voss> mandrake thats a blast from the past
[06:05] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis wow, you might be as old as me ;)
[06:05] <Wzrd> My laptop is overheating. I have tried reapplying thermal paste. All fans are working, the room temp is cool, etc. What should I do?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Dont make me get out my CP/M disks!
[06:06]  * PappiChi resists the urge to make wise guy answer to Wzrd
[06:06] <Voss> wzrd, a laptop cooler to stick underneath it
[06:06] <chrisd2> Hi, nix noob here, where do I set options like noapic?
[06:06] <duckwars> Could slowness over my LAN be due to the type of wireless security I use? Is WEP somehow faster than WPA/WPA2?
[06:06] <syn-ack> PappiChi: Honestly, with the way Ubuntu is going I feel that very soon, it's going to be diverged for Debian more than other distros
[06:06] <Wzrd> Thanks Voss, that's a good idea.
[06:06] <chrisd2> I know how to set boot options on the installer CD, but how do I set them for the actual installation?
[06:07] <Voss> wzrd, you can get one thats powered by usb
[06:07] <syn-ack> duckwars: it doesn't really matter in matters of speed but WEP is insecure unlike WPA2
[06:07] <PappiChi> syn-ack I'm not a good person for OS advocacy. I use, and have developed, for all the main ones. Each has its good and bad points
[06:07] <Wzrd> Great, I'll check on newegg
[06:08] <PappiChi> I default to debian-based linux distros though
[06:08] <duckwars> syn-ack: Thank you.  Also, would you have any idea as to why I get such slow transfers using SSH over my wireless netowork?
[06:09] <syn-ack> PappiChi: As have I and do and I just keeping up on Ubuntu's plans and such it highly doubt it's going to be as close to debian as Red Hat is other than the fact that it uses .deb
[06:09] <syn-ack> duckwars: because of overhead
[06:09] <PappiChi> I even worked for 18 months doing ASP.NET / C# developing! Let the flaming begin! ;)
[06:09] <PappiChi> syn-ack yeah, I hear what you are saying
[06:09] <syn-ack> Theres nothing wrong with .NET, imo
[06:10] <duckwars> syn-ack: What overhead are you refering to?
[06:10] <PappiChi> syn-ack same, but don't let the fanbois hear that
[06:10] <Voss> pappi, I once used redhat, then SUSE for a while then ubuntu, now I used mint on my laptop and ubuntu on my desktop
[06:10] <syn-ack> duckwars: encryption overhead
[06:11] <syn-ack> duckwars: Think about it, SSH is encrypted as is your connection, it's gonna slow down some
[06:11] <duckwars> syn-ack: You mean the encryption from ssh?  But it barely does 300KB/s.  I don't think anyone else using SSH on LAN would get such slow connection speeds
[06:11]  * imam slaps kancerman around a bit with a large trout
[06:11] <PappiChi> Voss right. I went straight from redhat 3.x to debian to ubuntu. A little VMS/VAX in the ancient days. Never tried SUSE or Mandrake et al.
[06:12] <PappiChi> haha I had a job while at university doing AIX adminning though. Man ...
[06:12] <syn-ack> duckwars: The odds of me nailing down exactly what's going on right now is slim unless I had physical access to the machine
[06:12] <syn-ack> AIX is the Greatness
[06:12] <syn-ack> I loved using it. :D
[06:12] <Voss> pappi, suse was the first linux distro I was able to get to "work"
[06:13] <duckwars> syn-ack: Any ideas where to start? I have an apple airport extreme.  I've been googling and searching ubuntu forums all day
[06:13] <PappiChi> in the day the RS6000s were the poopenheimer
[06:13] <syn-ack> heh
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. how can you tell how fast a transfer is with scp anyway?
[06:13] <Voss> I went to linux on my laptop before I switched to linux on my desktop
[06:13] <duckwars> when I use scp it gives me the rate
[06:13] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: by using the -v flag, IIRC
[06:13] <duckwars> i don't use any flag at all and it tells me
[06:13] <PappiChi> Voss heh, yeah. You were brave
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> lets see.....
[06:14] <syn-ack> duckwars: There are too many vars for me to say.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> copying a 800mb file via scp to the server.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> dident give me no rate.
[06:14] <duckwars> ack... I'm gonna make an official post I guess.  This has been a nuisance for far too long.
[06:14] <Voss> pappi, actually it was easier on my laptop less stuff to screw up. Getting wireless to work was a pain!
[06:14] <duckwars> thaanks for the help
[06:14] <PappiChi> scp is notoriously slow
[06:14] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I'm using the standard ssh program that came with ubuntu 9.04
[06:15] <duckwars> oh wait
[06:15] <duckwars> i'm using the ssh on my mac
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> doh.. i copied it to a file named 'willis@server' locally... :)
[06:15] <PappiChi> Voss yeah, I'm an old man in my 30's, so I'll spare you the pains I had over the years. Suffice it to say, it's a lot easier now ! :)
[06:15] <syn-ack> But yeah, scp is slooooow, check out rsync or something over ssh instead
[06:15] <mneptok> duckwars: who makes your wireless chipset? what driver is it using (if it's using ndiswrapper, expect suckage). is your wireless b, g or ... ?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> there we go..  12.1 MB/s
[06:15] <Voss> pappi, im no spring chicken myself
[06:16] <duckwars> mneptok: wireless chipset? The client is a macbook pro 2.0ghz the server is a fitpc2 with ubuntu 9.04
[06:16]  * mneptok laughs. "old man in my 30s"
[06:16] <PappiChi> Voss rock on, old man
[06:16] <PappiChi> mneptok ;)
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. seemes to have averaged out at about 10.8 MB/s for this scp test.
[06:16] <PappiChi> mneptok I'm working off the assumption many people here are in their late teens / early 20s
[06:16] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I envy you greatly
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> 1:05 to copy 701mb
[06:17] <mneptok> PappiChi: i'm not, whippersnapper. :P
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  I may be on a GB network connection. im not sure what i have btween these 2 box's.
[06:17] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: is that wired or wireless?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> wired
[06:17] <chrisd2> Hi, noob question here, how do I change the disk I'm working with in terminal? For example, I want to access /dev/sda1/, how do I move to that dir?
[06:17] <PappiChi> mneptok yeah, but I *knew* you were old ;)
[06:17] <chrisd2> *that drive
[06:17] <duckwars> o i c
[06:17] <mneptok> duckwars: is the Ubuntu machine using wireless?
[06:17] <duckwars> mneptok: yes it is
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  you cd to the MOUNTPOINT for the mounted filesystem
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !shell | chrisd2
[06:18] <mneptok> duckwars: and who makes the wireless chipset in the Ubuntu machine?
[06:18] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  if sda1 is mounted at /media/videos   the you 'cd /media/videos'
[06:18] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis, how do I know the mountpoint?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  try the mount command.. time to learn some shell basics I think,
[06:18] <chrisd2> So I'm setting it, not finding it?
[06:18] <zetheroo1> Seems like I am going to have to create screencasts from Windows while running Ubuntu in Virtual Box as creating screencasts in Ubuntu is such a waste of time ... the output format of Gtk-RMD is .ogv which when finally finding a way to convert it to AVI or MPEG4 turns into horrible quality and is out of sync with the Audio track ... sucks! Ironic that Windows has to be used to make a decent screencast of Ubuntu ... :(
[06:18] <PappiChi> it's a pity there are no statistics kept on the oldest person to ever join #ubuntu
[06:19] <PappiChi> !ot | PappiChi
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  what?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  if its not mounted.. then you have to mount it.
[06:19] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis, wait, is it the one that is X on /media/xxxx
[06:19] <kevinp> Is there  a simple way to generate a list of the programs installed in the terminal? Could one use this to easily install a large list of appilications from the terminal?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  see what guy that does the 'meet the gimp' webcasts uses..
[06:19] <Wzrd> Is there a macro program for linux?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  they could be mounted to any named directory /media/whatever
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: is that a site?
[06:20] <moronic44> hi people. im an ubuntu novice...is there a way i can use ubuntu to put music on my LG Env phone? in theory i think it should work but i plug it in and im finding it impossible to mount..i can sync my ipod fine..but not my phone
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  yes. he does gimp video toto0rials..
[06:20] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis,  okay, i will see how that works. thanks :)
[06:20] <mneptok> kevinp: research the "get selections" and "set selections" options of dpkg
[06:20] <isolat3dsh33p> question about cairo-dock, how can I edit the reserved space for the dock?
[06:20] <duckwars> mneptok: It looks like RaLink Device 3000
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:   hes got over 100+ video casts/lessions hes done. :)
[06:21] <duckwars> mneptok: that is if Network Controller is the wireless chip
[06:21] <Wzrd> I have a macro program that allows me to execute keystrokes, mouseclicks,etc. Is there such a way under Linux?
[06:21] <mneptok> duckwars: Ralink drivers are known to have issues. IIRC, proximity to the access point is one of the primary problems.
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: looks like he has them up for download and not streaming ...
[06:22] <Dr-Digi__> I usually use my mac to make my tutorials with my snow mic
[06:22] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv | grep ireless
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  of course the audio  sync is not quite as critical when  You justg see him movind the mouse around in gimp.   No idea on streaming vs downloading. I dont see how that would matter much
[06:22] <duckwars> mneptok: just gave me another command prompt
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: the other part of my issues is that once I upload anything made by Avidemux to YouTube it just looks horrible ... fuzzy and useless
[06:22] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv | grep etwork
[06:22] <kevinp> Let's say i wanted to reinstall my whole system, is there a way to generate a list of the programs I have installed, so that I run the list in the terminal?
[06:22] <mneptok> kevinp: research the "get selections" and "set selections" options of dpkg
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  theres winff and handbrake also.. but they are all front ends to ffmpeg and mencoder i imagine.
[06:23] <duckwars> mneptok: 03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 3090
[06:23] <mneptok> duckwars: does the machine have a wired network connector?
[06:23] <duckwars> mneptok: it does
[06:23] <Wzrd> kevinp: In terminal, you can type "sudo apt-get install progname1 progname2 progname3"
[06:24] <Dr-Digi__> I want handbrake to use a cluster system
[06:24] <mneptok> duckwars: then that wired connector may well be the Ralink
[06:24] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: yeah I have been using winff and tried handbrake as well ... winff seems to love and hate the encoders at random ... and handbrake only outputs into two formats ... neither of which are good quality ...
[06:24] <duckwars> mneptok: Oh, I see.
[06:24] <Dr-Digi__> To rip videos fastsr
[06:24] <brainbox> hey guys, anyone have sucess with installing madwifi in 8.04 TLS hardy ?
[06:24] <Wzrd> yes
[06:24] <mneptok> duckwars: the Ralink is the *only* thing in the output of "lspci -vvv" that looks like networking?
[06:25] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: I have been trying to get some decent outcome for 2 days now .. that is why I said maybe just using a Windows app which outputs directly to AVI and does not suffer from audio sync issues is going to be easiest ..
[06:25] <brainbox> i get an error...
[06:25] <brainbox> cd: 1: can't cd to /lib/modules/2.6.24-26-server/build
[06:25] <brainbox> Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-26-server/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH
[06:25] <brainbox> is there any repositories for madwifi for ubuntu?
[06:25] <duckwars> mneptok: well there are 2 things, Ethernet controller, which I assumed was the wired connection, and Network Controller, which I assumed was wireless
[06:25] <mneptok> duckwars: that sounds like a sage assumption
[06:26] <mneptok> duckwars: *safe
[06:26] <PappiChi> sage works
[06:26] <duckwars> mneptok: hahahah, I thought you wre totally mocking me
[06:26] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop shortcut to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:26] <mneptok> duckwars: try moving the access point closer. if it makes a noticable difference, not only do you have a stop-gap solution, but you can reasonably blame the Ralink driver.
[06:27] <duckwars> mneptok: I'll give it a try
[06:27] <mneptok> duckwars: and you'll know when i'm mocking you. i'm as subtle as a flying hammer.
[06:27] <duckwars> mneptok: =)
[06:27] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:28] <JustMozzy1> hi guys. I am having some issues with guessing mime-types
[06:28] <Ademan> why don't i have an aclocal.m4? i swear i used to have one somewhere in /usr/{share,lib}/automake*/
[06:28] <JustMozzy1> I am trying file -b --mime 2D.flv and instead of returning video/x-flv it returns me application/octet-stream
[06:29] <shashtri> hi
[06:29] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:29] <Ademan> Knowguy: what's the problem?
[06:30] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: btw, this is what he uses ... and its not free http://demorecorder.com/  .... I guess you really do have to pay for most things in order for them to be any good ...
[06:31] <Knowguy> I am running a game server and the only way to start the service is to type command line and I just want to make a shortcut on the desktop...
[06:31] <JustMozzy1> weird also is if I don't specify any parameters "file 2D.flv" it would return me "Macromedia Flash Video"
[06:32] <shashtri> i've to set my screen resolution to 1024*768...but i've got only 800*600 and 640*480 resolutions...i'm using ubuntu 9.10...i didn had prob in the earlier versions of ubuntu....pls help me...
[06:32] <JustMozzy1> and the weirdest of all is if I try to guess the mime type from any of the PHP functions it would give me text/plain
[06:32] <JustMozzy1> can anyone help?
[06:33] <Orion337> ubuntu has been out this long and it still can't handle atheros wifi
[06:33] <duckwars> mneptok: I moved it right next to the router, still the same speed
[06:34] <duckwars> mneptok: MAYBE slightly faster
[06:34] <Daughain> OK, just set up samba, and am getting "Nautilus could not handle Network locations" Do I just need a reboot?
[06:34] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:35] <mneptok> duckwars: FWIW, i get 2.1Mb/s over 802.11g and an Intel wireless card. so it's not Ubuntu in general.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Knowguy:  You mean you need to learn what command the launcher is lauinching?
[06:35] <PiklesOnFire> Knowguy: what desktop are you using... gnome, kde, etc?
[06:35] <mneptok> duckwars: this being over ssh, as well.
[06:35] <duckwars> mneptok: For you are both client and server wireless?
[06:36] <Knowguy> gnome
[06:36] <mneptok> duckwars: server is wired.
[06:36] <mneptok> duckwars: (as servers should be) ;)
[06:36] <PiklesOnFire> Knowguy: have a look here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[06:37] <duckwars> mneptok: I'm thinking of just wiring the server, but as I have it right now my server is headless, and I made it so that it logs into an account and gets on the wireless network.  If I wire it now, I'm wondering if it will use the wireless or the wired connection.
[06:37] <infid> to share my ~/Music folder should i right-click on it and choose 'share' using windows networks sharing service, or should i use smbfs?
[06:37] <duckwars> mneptok: or if you happen to know a way to make it not autoboot into an account through the command line
[06:37] <max1234> I have to go to open with in order to view any pictures or play music, what should I do?
[06:37] <Knowguy> I have read through similar material... still can't get it to work...
[06:38] <Jkessler> infid set it up in your samba conf as a share
[06:38] <Jkessler> you can share home folders somehow
[06:38] <mneptok> duckwars: Ubuntu should always prefer a wired connection. and you can turn off autologin via System > Admin > Login screen
[06:38] <max1234> All the files show up as unknown files and I have to go to open with and choose an application in order to view them
[06:39] <duckwars> mneptok: I have no way of accessing the gui
[06:39] <mneptok> duckwars: sure you do. you have ssh. :)
[06:39] <Stupendoussteve> max1234: Choose the properties for a filetype and set a default application
[06:39] <duckwars> mneptok: I was never able to figure out how to use X or whatever it is to connect, never even got that to work
[06:39] <mneptok> duckwars: ssh -X user@server
[06:39] <Jkessler> no way..  is it that easy?
[06:40] <Darkedge> How much RAM should I have to run GNOME?
[06:40] <faileas> lol
[06:40] <mneptok> duckwars: and once logged in, type "gdmsetup"
[06:40] <faileas> Jkessler: yeah
[06:40] <mneptok> duckwars: (no quotes)
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> is it -x or -X i forget which one does X forwazrding and whioch one disables it...
[06:40] <nonoy\> at least you can the ubuntu as well
[06:40] <faileas> ssh -X
[06:40] <llutz> Dr_Willis: -X for X-forwarding
[06:40] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: capital X for X11 forwarding
[06:40] <max1234> Stupendoussteve, I don't have that option when I go to properties, I have a general tab and permissions tab
[06:40] <faileas> Darkedge: what's your specs?
[06:41] <duckwars> mneptok: What is that communication called that gives you a gui through SSH? because in my OS X terminal when I type ssh -X user@server it opens a program called X11 which brings up no gui
[06:41] <Jkessler> and that spawns what..?
[06:41] <Darkedge> faileas: 1GB RAM with an Intel 82845G Video card
[06:41] <Jkessler> i still get a bash prompt
[06:41] <faileas> Darkedge: you shouldn't have a problem
[06:41] <nonoy\> Darkedge: that's enough
[06:41] <faileas> Jkessler: start a programme with it
[06:41] <Darkedge> phew :)
[06:41] <faileas> as long as it isn't firefox
[06:41] <Darkedge> faileas: haha it is
[06:41] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: If you were to run xgalaga on a box with xgalaga installed, it would open in X11
[06:41] <mneptok> duckwars: it should still log you in in Terminal.app
[06:41] <Darkedge> im installing chrome right now
[06:41] <Jkessler> crap
[06:42] <Jkessler> i just started firefox
[06:42] <faileas> Darkedge: anything with more than 256 mb is enough ;p
[06:42] <Jkessler> before i saw you say that
[06:42] <Jkessler> i was gonna check whatismyip.com
[06:42] <faileas> Jkessler: firefox opens a local session ;p
[06:42] <Jkessler> oh
[06:42] <duckwars> mneptok: in the terminal app it just gives me a comand line again, and X11 just does nothing but open up
[06:42] <mneptok> duckwars: a command prompt locally, or on the Ubuntu machine?
[06:43] <duckwars> mneptok: on the machine
[06:43] <Jkessler> i'm gonna try xchat
[06:43] <faileas> Jkessler: if you want to use firefox you'd want -no-remote
[06:43] <Jkessler> but i've gotta install it
[06:43] <duckwars> even using the command prompt in X11 does nothing but log me in through a command prompt
[06:43] <mneptok> duckwars: uhhh ... *what* machine?
[06:43] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: You have to run a program
[06:44] <duckwars> mneptok: I run ssh -X user@server and I get a command prompt for the machine that is the server
[06:44] <duckwars> stupendoussteve: do you happen to know what program in OS X?
[06:44] <mneptok> duckwars: type "gdmsetup" (no quotes)
[06:44] <Jkessler> damn!  that's pretty cool.  i've just been doing everything by command line
[06:44] <Jkessler> because i didn't want to set up vnc
[06:44] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: You have to run a program on the remote box, it will open in X11 on the local machine
[06:44] <duckwars> ohhhhh
[06:44] <Stupendoussteve> If you don't run a program there's nothing to display graphically.
[06:44] <duckwars> I typed gdmsetup and it said I have to be root, but some gui stuff did pop up
[06:45] <duckwars> is there no way to just get the desktop enviroment?
[06:45] <max1234> and when i try to open PCmanFM it says GTK+ theme is not properly set and says it usually means you don't have an Xsettings manager running, what should I install to fix this?
[06:45] <llutz> duckwars: install vnc
[06:45] <Daughain> This is gonna be a long night.....
[06:45] <duckwars> llutz: I have vnc installed and running, but when it runs on the server without a screen it has awful resolution
[06:46] <mneptok> Daughain: and i think we're gonna need a bigger boat ...
[06:46] <faileas> duckwars: the 'best' way is to use a protocol called nx IMO
[06:46] <Daughain> I usualy need a bigger boat, mneptok. The hipwaders just dont cut it anymore. =)
[06:46] <duckwars> faileas: what is this protocol?
[06:46] <Stupendoussteve> and we gonna need more wax
[06:47] <faileas> duckwars: its an accelerated x forwarding thing, its faster than the normal x11 forwarding
[06:47] <Daughain> WHat causes the error "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations"?
[06:47] <Daughain> mneptok: WHat ya need help with?
[06:47] <llutz> faileas: have they cleaned the code and fixed some security issues with nx now? iirc they had some problems in the past, which made nx ... not recommended
[06:48] <duckwars> I figured out X now at least, thanks for that mneptok, and I'm gonna try wiring the server, see if I get anywhere doing that
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  You are using the full gnome desktop? or somt other window manager?
[06:49] <Daughain> STraight gnome.
[06:49] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: I removed kde already.
[06:49] <faileas> llutz: i last used it a few years ago, it rocked tho ;p
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  try making a new user - see if they have the same issue. Its possible removeing kde goofed up something.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  ive seen where having kde and gnome both can confuse some 'special' locations/assoications
[06:50] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: I removed kde when I removed samba for a reinstall. =)
[06:50] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: It was all kinda a package deal for some reason.
[06:51] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: This is a fresh install of samba, just reset locations, and cannot load netowkr in nautilus at all.
[06:52] <Daughain> Also, I dontknow how to make a new user... =)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  havintg samba installed or not - i think has very little to do with gnome/nautilus
[06:52] <sje46> is there a way to change the color of the text in a panel?
[06:52] <Jkessler> faileas: this is cool, i ran nautilus from the remote machine.  too bad you can't use it to copy to your local machine using scp in the background
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  perhaps try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and try a new user.
[06:52] <Daughain> Ok, so, do a check for anything else kde left, and remove it?
[06:52] <brainbox> I need some assistance with madwifi & ubuntu hardy i got it all in this nifty pastebin
[06:52] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:52] <sje46> Daughain, system>admin>users and groups
[06:52] <brainbox> any suggestions would be appreciated
[06:53] <max1234> whats a good program I can install to backup my packages if I happen to mess something up?
[06:53] <Daughain> CHeck for kde stuff.....Ok.
[06:53] <llutz> !clone | max1234
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  no.. not for kde stuff.. :) if you had kde installed  and removed it.. IF kde took over some assoication.. its possible removing kde did NOT restore the gnome assoication
[06:54] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Would it be better to reinstall kde, then?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  perhaps try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and try a new user.
[06:55] <zetheroo1> why is it that whenever I convert an AVI to FLV that the quality of the video goes horrible?
[06:55] <ardchoille> Daughain: are you having trouble seting a default app for a file type?
[06:55] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[06:56] <Daughain> ardchoille: Im getting the error "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations."
[06:56] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:56] <ardchoille> Daughain: Ah, ok
[06:56] <zetheroo1> this is the command being used: -vcodec flv -f flv -r 29.97 -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 -b 300kb -g 160 -cmp dct  -subcmp dct  -mbd 2 -flags +aic+cbp+mv0+mv4 -trellis 1 -ac 1 -ar 22050 -ab 56kb
[06:56] <brainbox> i need help getting madwifi working wth ubuntu
[06:56] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  using mencoder of ffmpeg?  check their homepage/faq/forums  for convertion tips perhaps?
[06:58] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: Winff ... so ffmpeg
[06:58] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  did you try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop yet?  then make and try a new user. see if they have the same issue
[06:59] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: No....Why am I reinstalling ubuntu desktop to create a new user?
[06:59] <duckwars> what is the command to see all the computers on my network?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  because when you removed KDE it also removed some setting that gnome was using..   and its possible its just a user setting (thus the new user test)
[07:01] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  so reinstalling Ubuntu-desktpp SHOULD get the desktpp back to a normal state. and the new user should have new proper default settings
[07:02] <Daughain> Added a new user.....Lemme log over.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you could try just a new user first
[07:04] <brainbox> i need some help with madwifi....
[07:04] <brainbox> anyone out there?
[07:04] <brainbox> AR5416 chipset
[07:04] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[07:04] <buttons840> what package allows a system to be a ssl server?   i thought it was openssl-server, but can't find that package in the repos?  (9.10)
[07:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> brainbox, I don't know how to help you, otherwise I would...
[07:05] <Daugha|n> OK, here we go with the new desktop...
[07:06] <EastDallas> brainbox: so what exactly is your problem?
[07:06] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[07:06] <brainbox> wireless driver doesn;'t seem to work with ubuntu
[07:06] <Jkessler> anyone know if you can run virtualbox over ssh -X ?
[07:07] <brainbox> updated with /var/log/messages output http://pastebin.ca/1754416
[07:07] <Dr-Digi__> Step 7 on install doesn't ever seem to finish and just closes
[07:07] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:07] <EastDallas> brainbox: how did you install it?
[07:07] <brainbox> from source, compiled it
[07:07] <brainbox> loaded the module
[07:07] <brainbox> no errors
[07:07] <brainbox> the module is loaded
[07:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> bashca, I don't understand the question.
[07:07] <Dr-Digi__> Could anyone remote desktop in and take a peak?
[07:07] <teadict> Jkessler: of course, whatever X shows goes through ssh
[07:07] <EastDallas> brainbox: is there a reason you didn't just install from jockey?
[07:07] <brainbox> im using hardy... 8.04
[07:08] <Jkessler> i might have to play with that
[07:08] <brainbox> if u look at the pastebin and the hardware... u will understand why... and i don;t need a lecture about why im running wireless with this hardware
[07:08] <bashca> ShazbotMcNasty: my  Q  how   can  i remove  flashpluging ??????   note  i tried  all  methods  using   apt  aptitu  dpk... so  on  ??
[07:09] <EastDallas> brainbox: It's not broadcom?  I must have misread
[07:09] <bashca> ShazbotMcNasty: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal ???
[07:09] <brainbox> no its a 0a:01.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01)
[07:09] <brainbox> broadcom adaptors are both working
[07:10] <t1n0m3n> Ubuntu 9.10, x64, Ralink 2870USB, I need help figuring out why NetworkManager applet keeps asking for a password.  I am currently on WPA2-PSK, AES.  When I try no security, it connects, but there is no signal.
[07:10] <brainbox> 0a:01.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01)
[07:10] <duckwars> just for the record, the server is now wired and i get a good 1.1MB/s
[07:11] <EastDallas> brainbox: sorry, I saw broadcom and just started trying to walk u through standard wireless setup.  Hardy + atheros is beyond my expertise.
[07:12] <t1n0m3n> I dual boot, and have no problems in Win7 64bit, nor did I have a problem on Mint 7.  However, I did have a problem on Mint 8
[07:13] <EastDallas> !ubuntu | t1n0m3n
[07:13] <EastDallas> !ot | t1n0m3n
[07:13] <t1n0m3n> EastDallas:  Uh, ok
[07:13]  * EastDallas oops
[07:13] <faileas> t1n0m3n: mint has its own support - since they use their own mods, it isn't supported here
[07:14] <brainbox> np we may have the aweser someone finally woke up in madwifi
[07:14] <brainbox> lol
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Mint is too leet for us. :)
[07:14] <brainbox> im getting the 3rd degree for using it with a raq
[07:14] <t1n0m3n> If you read my post, you would see that I am on Ubuntu 9.10 x64
[07:15] <t1n0m3n> Ubuntu 9.10, x64, Ralink 2870USB, I need help figuring out why NetworkManager applet keeps asking for a password.  I am currently on WPA2-PSK, AES.  When I try no security, it connects, but there is no signal.
[07:15] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: sorry, just saw the second one...
[07:16] <buttons840> my system wont boot after an update, but i'm hoping that because i killed the power mid update;  what are the odds of it working properly with a proper update?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Stopping in Midupdate = bad idea.. :()
[07:16] <maco> buttons840: much higher
[07:16] <faileas> well, you'd need to boot it to update
[07:16] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: I had a similar problem  with jaunty, and I switched to WiCD and the problem went away.  When I upgraded to Karmic I was able to go back to networkmanager.
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> I have also tried 32 bit versions as well with no luck
[07:17] <zetheroo1> anyone here familiar with using ffmpeg?
[07:17] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: only mine with wit wep, not wpa
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  no  info/tips in their forums/faq/wiki eh?
[07:17] <faileas> zetheroo1: i tend to use winff as a frontend.
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> I have tried WPA2, WPA, WEP, and open with no luck
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  dident discover a --makeitlookgood  setting? :)
[07:18] <buttons840> heh, we'll i had to kill the update because i thought i could switch users during an update, but this froze the system and forced a hard reboot
[07:18] <t1n0m3n> I have also tried the 2300 drivers directly from Ralink with no luck
[07:18]  * bashca  still  have  the  same  Q and  problem any 1 can help  please 
[07:19] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: I don't think I tested mine on an unsecured network, or with wpa, just switched to WiCD after someone at Ubuntuforums suggested I do so, it worked.
[07:19] <t1n0m3n> k, let me try it
[07:19] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: worth a shot anyway
[07:20]  * Dr-Digi__ burps
[07:20] <JamesG> Hi. I just upgraded an intrepid machine to karmic. Since I upgraded, I have a cron job which is failing.. No problem, except I can't find where it's running from. It's not in the individual user's crontab (nor any other in /var/spool/cron/crontabs), it's not in /etc/cron.d or /etc/crontab or any of the other directories under /etc/cron.* - does anyone have any clue where I might find it?
[07:21] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: ha .. nope .. by the looks of it I could spend weeks reading stuff ... and still not get anywhere really ...
[07:21] <faileas> hmm, one of my systems seems to have started shutting itself down the moment it starts up
[07:21] <zetheroo1> faileas; that is what I am using
[07:21]  * faileas wonders what he messed up
[07:24] <Pingu> hey all
[07:25] <Pingu> I really need some help with configuring GRUB2
[07:25] <Dr-Digi__> When you install ubuntu does it not tell you its completed? Or does the window just close with no messages?
[07:26] <zetheroo1> faileas: have you used WinFF to convert to FLV?
[07:26] <SNOKAT> hello
[07:26] <faileas> zetheroo1: no, but i've used it to more or less work out the ffmpeg command line ;p
[07:26] <SNOKAT> what?
[07:27] <rick_2047> Hey I installed ubuntu from the alternate cd, now it does not detect some of my partitions one is ntfs and the other is fat32
[07:27] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, new user, no love.
[07:27] <ziroday> Dr-Digi__: it tells you when it is completed
[07:27] <Dr-Digi__> It just closes every single time on me
[07:27] <SNOKAT> blbnt yf [eq
[07:27] <SNOKAT> èäèòå íà õóé
[07:28] <ziroday> Dr-Digi__: open a terminal and type in ubiquity, does it close then?
[07:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Half tempted to wipe this sys and rebuild from scratch, yet again...
[07:29] <Dr-Digi__> I get to step 7 and the window closes let me try im on my phone
[07:29] <zetheroo1> faileas: I have an ogv file that I am trying to convert to AVI .. but the quality goes way down ...
[07:29] <abumaia> does anyone know how to install the ubuntu2 grub2 theme from grub.gibibit.com?
[07:29] <faileas> zetheroo1: well. you are converting lossy to lossy
[07:30] <buttons840> what package do i need to install on my server to be able to access it using ssh shell?
[07:30] <Dr-Digi__> It says its already running
[07:30] <SNOKAT> buttons840
[07:30] <zetheroo1> faileas: sounds fun :)
[07:30] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:30] <rick_2047> can anyone please help me, ubuntu is having problems detecting partitions of my hard drive
[07:30] <SNOKAT> icq  the best
[07:30] <Daughain> rick_2047: Care to elaborate?
[07:30] <rick_2047> it is shown in the partition list with fdisk -l but ubuntu does not mout it
[07:30] <faileas> hmm. I have a ubuntu box which suddenly started auto shutting itself down 'gracefully' automatically. Any ideas on where to start poking? ;p
[07:31] <Pingu> can any1 help me with figuring out how to edit the grub,cfg to multiboot ISO files?
[07:31] <zetheroo1> faileas: does it happen before Ubuntu loads? -- or after?
[07:31] <abumaia> faileas:  maybe overheating?
[07:31] <faileas> after
[07:31] <Daughain> Overheat doesnt do it gracefully. Trust me on that. =)
[07:31] <faileas> abumaia: hm. would it do it gracefully if it was overheating?
[07:31] <faileas> yeah that's what's troubling me ;p
[07:31] <don-i> anyone know where i can find gcc's math.h ?
[07:31] <rick_2047> Daughain: I have 3 partitions other than ubuntu out of which 1 is shown other two are ntfs and vfat
[07:31] <abumaia> faileas: I guess it depends on your definition of "gracefully"
[07:32] <Pingu> faileas, it might be a power management problem
[07:32] <Daughain> faileas: Overheat just shuts ndown bang, nothing.
[07:32] <faileas> abumaia: i mean, as if someone shut it down properly ;p
[07:32] <faileas> Pingu: plugged in laptop, no power management tools installed as far as i know
[07:32] <rick_2047> Daughain: when I tried the disk utility they are shown as unused space
[07:32] <Pingu> so it might be a setting to shut down due to CPU high temp in the BIOS
[07:32] <Daughain> rick_2047: Need to make sure that those formats are supported in the disk utility you are using.
[07:32] <infid> what ufw command do i use to allow any computer on 192.168.1.* to access port 137?
[07:32] <faileas> i'll take a look at te bios
[07:33] <faileas> then
[07:33] <Daughain> rick_2047: NTFS should be, but I've never heard of vfat
[07:33] <zetheroo1> faileas: does is "shut down" or switch off cold?
[07:33]  * faileas notes i though i had this system running well ;p
[07:33] <faileas> zetheroo1: shut down
[07:33] <rick_2047> Daughain: i mean fat32
[07:33] <Daughain> faileas: I know the feeling.. =)
[07:33] <infid> sudo ufw allow proto udp to any port 137 from 192.168.1.0/24?
[07:33] <faileas> thats why i said gracefully
[07:33] <Daughain> rick_2047: Make sure MS formats are set to be recognized.
[07:33] <zetheroo1> faileas: so Ubuntu actually shuts down? ... before or after you login?
[07:33] <rick_2047> Daughain: and another fat32 filesystem is detected
[07:33] <faileas> Daughain: gah. its a minimal box
[07:33] <abumaia> does anyone know how to install any of the grub2 themes from grub.gibibit.com?
[07:34] <rick_2047> Daughain: how do I set that?
[07:34] <Pingu> faileas: does it have a battery? by "plugged in" you mean it is running only on AC?
[07:34] <Daughain> rick_2047: What are you using to access the drive?
[07:34] <faileas> zetheroo1: autologs in, shows me a tasty glimse of openbox (which is what i use) and immediately starts shutting down
[07:34] <faileas> Pingu: AC + nearly full battery
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  the grub2 in ubuntu dosent support themes. you sould have to use a newer version of grub2 from PPA or source then try the themes..
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  proberly in the next release they will be using more of the features of grub2 for that eyecandy
[07:35] <rick_2047> Daughain: this is sata hard drive using the standard ubuntu nautilus interface to but they are not shown in the moutable partitions
[07:35] <zetheroo1> faileas: wow ... interesting
[07:35] <Pingu> faileas: turn it off, take the battery out, let it run with AC only and see if it still happens...
[07:35] <abumaia> Dr_Willis:  hm, the grub.gibibit.com site said that the graphics features were already in the ubuntu packages, they just didn't provide any installation instructions
[07:35] <Pingu> tah't is - after checking the BIOS
[07:35] <Daughain> rick_2047: May need to add them manually as mountable. Just dont ask me how to do that, I'm not sure, since I have bever had to.
[07:36] <buttons840> is it possible to have one user who can log in without a password and another use who requires a password?
[07:36] <faileas> no thermal warning option in the bios
[07:36] <Pingu> Sounds like an ACPI issue
[07:36] <faileas> hmm
[07:36] <faileas> its also booting off a USB drive, EXT4, proper install
[07:36] <rick_2047> Daughain: I can add them using the fstab but thats ridiculous I never had to do that
[07:36] <Pingu> run 'acpi -V' in a console
[07:36] <zetheroo1> faileas: I don't think it would be a heat issue ...
[07:36] <faileas> but, its worked fine for about a week
[07:36] <Pingu> what does it say?
[07:36] <faileas> Pingu: now. if i could boot in, i could
[07:37] <Daughain> rick_2047: DOnt ask me, I'm a newbie. :P I agree it is ridiculous, but....This is linux. =)
[07:37] <zetheroo1> faileas: I have had heat issues and that is not how my systems acted to overheating
[07:37] <faileas> zetheroo1: yeah, i know. this is WIERD
[07:37] <Pingu> can someone tell me what to put in the menu entry of grub.cfg to boot the UBCD411.iso ?
[07:37] <zetheroo1> faileas: can you boot off of a Live CD and locate the system logs?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  thats not how i read the grub2 docs and forums when i was doing beta. there was quite a bit of stuff removed from grub2. such as some of the scripting language features. (lua?)
[07:37] <Pingu> faileas: what do you mean?
[07:37] <quellhorst> how can i check what ubuntu version i have installed from console?
[07:38] <faileas> hm
[07:38] <faileas> removing the battery helped
[07:38] <abumaia> faileas: are you sure it's not someone ssh'ing into the box and shutting it down remotely? as a prank or hack?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  I seem to recall some grub2 ubuntu wiki/docs discussing how to get the themeable grub2 stuff versions  installed
[07:38] <Dr-Digi__> My three year old exited chat for me
[07:38] <faileas> abumaia: no. no one here is smart enough ;p
[07:38] <faileas> ok, i got it working for now ;p
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[07:39] <buttons840> could always unplug the ether cable
[07:39] <Pingu> quellhorst: lsb_release or 'cat /etc/issue
[07:39] <arghh2d2> Dr-Digi__: enter irssi+screen
[07:39] <Pingu> '
[07:39] <quellhorst> Pingu: thanks
[07:39] <dnivra> Pingu, i don't think booting iso is supported in grub2 yet. that's what i remember reading at the community documentation.
[07:39] <Dr-Digi__> Im on my phone i havent customized it to much yet
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  booting an iso file qwith grub2 IS SUPPORTED - i do it all the time
[07:40] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: ANy more ideaS?
[07:40] <Dr-Digi__> Cant get ubuntu to install to put that to real use
[07:41] <faileas> hmm
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  so installung ubuntu-desktpp and a new user dident fix things?
[07:41] <faileas> "critical temprature reached 94 degrees, shutting down"
[07:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Nope.
[07:41] <faileas> and removing the battery helped?
[07:41] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: can you help me with the configuration?
[07:41] <faileas> ok... the heck?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2
[07:41] <abumaia> well, I suppose I could make do with BURG until grub2 is ready.  I do like the ubuntu2 theme better than any of the others though
[07:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Did lose my wd passport, though, which is not a happy thing.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  see the links i got
[07:41] <infid> what command tells me which folders i'm sharing on my system?
[07:42] <Pingu> it keeps telling me 'unknown command' to anything I try
[07:42] <bashca> any help ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
[07:42] <Daughain> Now I need to figure out how to access the thing so I can back it up...
[07:42] <llutz> Multiple exclamation(/question) marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind. [T.Pratchett]
[07:42] <darthanubis> bashca, relax
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  you have to make a custome grub entry to boot each iso. you dotn just select a iso and boot it. its not that smart.
[07:42] <infid> bashca: calm down you're not trapped in rubble in ahiti
[07:42] <infid> haiti
[07:42] <Pingu> quellhorst: you are most welcome!
[07:42] <Dr-Digi__> Anyone at all willing to remote desktop into my system to see if they can see why ubuntu wont install?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Dr-Digi__:  if it wont install .. how can they remote in?
[07:42] <darthanubis> Dr-Digi__, nope
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> Livecd runs
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> and what does the installer not do/fail to do?
[07:43] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, that's not what the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto says. is it that they've not updated it? last time I checked it said support was not there in GRUB2 for iso.
[07:43] <Pingu> infamy: exports - if you are using samba
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  ive been booting iso files with it sincwe beta.
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> Step 7 it closes
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> No warning or messages
[07:43] <PdxJohn> is the african chat?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Dr-Digi__:  run installer from termianl look for messages.. or try alternative installer cd i guess.
[07:44] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, sorry didn't see those links-pretty slow connection here with an amazing lag time. this is news.
[07:44] <bashca> darthanubis: infid  ok
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> With grub2 you can directly boot an (iso9660) ISO using its loopback option. This is great because it provides another nice rescue scenario –
[07:44] <infid> Pingu: assuming you meant me, and /etc/exports, i am using samba but dont have an /etc/exports
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  i made a multi-ubuntu flash drive that uses grub2 and can boot ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, unr, and alt iso files. :)
[07:45] <PdxJohn> where the nappy headed hoes at?
[07:45] <Dr-Digi__> Ill try freebsd all i need is 1 damn illustrator file off a max os x volume and i been at it ALL day
[07:45] <llutz> infid: /etc/exports is nfs
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  the disrto has to support the feature also.. most are slowly converting/changeign to allow the very handy feature
[07:45] <infid> llutz do you know how to list all the shared folders on a machine
[07:45] <llutz> Dr_Willis: look for freesbie
[07:45] <infid> llutz using samba
[07:46] <triple_xxx> anyone experience a slow internet connection after installing add-ons is there a rule of thumb for waiting on updating add-ons????
[07:46] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, that is awesome. I just cant wait to do so. wish my connection were a bit faster so that I can open the link you gave me.
[07:46] <llutz> infid: smbclient -L //localhost?   sry, i don't use samba
[07:46] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, Oh ok that could be a hitch eh-whether or not the distro supports it or not?
[07:46] <llutz> Dr-Digi__:  freesbie
[07:46] <Trezker> I can accept that Ubuntu reserves a few hundred meg of ram that I can't account for in the system monitors process list, but it really bothers me that it uses more of this "secret" memory after a few days uptime
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  of course. the disrtop has to support some option to switch over to the 'loop' mounted device that grub does. if not.. then it dont do it.
[07:46] <triple_xxx> anyone experience a slow internet connection after installing add-ons firefox is there a rule of thumb for waiting on updating add-ons????
[07:47] <infid> llutz thanks
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  so far most all the ubuntu varisits support it. xpud.  some rescue disrtos and proberly more ive not rried lately
[07:47] <Pingu> infid: sorry, I meant you
[07:47] <Pingu> try 'exportfs -a'
[07:47] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, oh boy thanks for that piece of information. lot's more digging to do before I try it out.
[07:48] <infid> pingu i dont have that command. and i'm using samba, as set up by nautilus when you right click a folder and choose 'share'
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  on my installed systems i add a entry to grub to boot an iso file as a special 'rescue' operation. :)
[07:48] <llutz> Pingu: export/exportfs are nfs-related, not samba
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  i need to add that to a 'feature/brain storm request' :)
[07:48] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: Can you be more specific? I am trying to follow different guides without any success.
[07:49] <triplexxx> hello
[07:49] <calliscope> Dr_Willis> would you paste the grub2 entry you use please ?
[07:49] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, will try that rescue option out.
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> Hey everybody! I love this new aptitude feature! "sudo aptitude torrent <URL>"
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> :P
[07:49] <Pingu> I have Kubuntu Hardy and I installed the 'grub-pc' package
[07:49] <hackoo> how can I hide my hostname from other hosts in the same wireless network? my hostname is seen in router page
[07:49] <llutz> hackoo: reconfigure your router
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit  40_custom
[07:50] <hackoo> llutz: hostename of my client machine.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f136292a9
[07:50] <kinja-sheep> hackoo: It is normal for the router to see a list of connected IP / hostnames (unless you make the hostname invisible somehow?)
[07:50] <llutz> hackoo: you cannot hide it, reconfigure your router not to show it
[07:50] <calliscope> Dr_Willis, thanks man :)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. how do you make a hostname invisible? :)
[07:51] <infid> llutz: the weird thing is i just right-clicked ~/Music in nautilus and shared it but smbclient -L //myPC doesn't list the 'Music' folder
[07:51] <Pingu> infid, llutz: /me smacks himself on the forehead...
[07:51] <Jkessler> use a blank character?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> infid:  try findsmb and the smbtree commands?
[07:51] <hackoo> kinja-sheep: that the way, but how to make hostename and mac address invisible?
[07:51] <kinja-sheep> An invisible space bar! Maybe. Or just don't run certain services.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> kinja-sheep:  years ago we would use 'shift space' on some os's :)
[07:52] <Ademan> why don't i have an aclocal.m4? i swear i used to have one somewhere in /usr/{share,lib}/automake*/
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !find aclocal.m4
[07:52] <kinja-sheep> hackoo: You don't. Clients sends DHCP request via through MAC address. Once that is done, all communications then takes place through IP.
[07:53] <llutz> hackoo: you can't and it wouldn't make sense to try
[07:53] <calliscope> It sayx not to edit the 'exec tail' line above and you erased it, why is that ?
[07:53] <hackoo> llutz: ok
[07:53] <Diverdude> how do i pipe output from ls into a file?
[07:53] <llutz> Diverdude: ls > file
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  becasue i wanted to add the echo messages  to let it know it was running
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  more then 1 way to 'pipe the rest of this file to the stdnard output'
[07:53] <Diverdude> llutz,  and if the file does not exist?
[07:53] <calliscope> ok
[07:53] <llutz> Diverdude: ls > file
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: It'll create whatever the file exists or not, it does not care. It'll overwrite the file.
[07:54] <llutz> Diverdude:if it exists and you want to append,  ls >> file
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: If you want to add at end of the files, use "ls >> file"
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  other sites have other examples of proper grub2 iso entries.
[07:54] <Diverdude> thx
[07:54] <calliscope> i have tried a few and didn't get any luck
[07:55] <duckwars> how do I create a mountpoint in /media ?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[07:55] <hackoo> what if i make a unknown user account and login from that to hide the original hostname?
[07:55] <llutz> duckwars: sudo mkdir /media/point
[07:55] <obiwan_> hey guys, fyi, i have just read on the news they're going to make 2 Tb sd cards lawl haha
[07:55] <duckwars> llutz: thank you very much
[07:55] <llutz> hackoo: hostname is user-independend
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  ive not tried it lately. i did notice that my entries are not  in  the grub menus also since last week.. i wonder if theres been some changes to grub2 that ive overlooked.
[07:55] <infid> Dr_Willis: thanks
[07:55] <calliscope> actually, it's line 12 that i should work on. which vmlinuz t o indicate.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  i doubt if they removed the feature..
[07:56] <hackoo> ok
[07:56] <calliscope> Dr_Willis, do you have os-prober installed ?
[07:56] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: Can you post the proper syntax to boot the UltimateBoot CD ISO?
[07:56] <Pingu> plz
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  i dont have it handy. and i dont use that cd.. check their forums. its different for different disrtos.
[07:57] <xiong> Hi. System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects has three radio buttons: None, Normal, Extra. I set this to Normal but after every reboot, it reverts to None. Does anyone know where this setting is stored and what might be keeping it from storing properly?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  perhaps some day all these live cd's will follow the same standard.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> even xPUD and ubuntu and TCLinux use different options/names  for the same 'job'
[07:57] <llutz> hackoo: what you want is called spoofing and isn't supported here. /j #howtobecome133thackz0r
[07:58] <patoncito1> Hi,
[07:58] <patoncito1> i recently purchase a Benq laptop (joybook S57B) and i experience trouble with high temperature of the cpu : the bios turn off the machine to prevent CPU overheating. I'm currently running kernel 2.6.32.10-generic which comes with lucid alpha2 (january-14). sensors-detect do not detects the cpu's fan.
[07:58] <patoncito1> The cooling cpu fan seems do not work at all when the kernel boot, and that happened with all debian-like distro i tried (karmic, lenny, debian testing, knoppix). However i'd that when i turn off the laptop the ubuntu logo remain on the screen (which is another bug i guess linked with this alpha release) and suddenly the fan is working...
[07:58] <patoncito1> I first post on some forum to ask help and search topic about my problem (i found the reporting bug/451337) in order to find a patch to solve that issue. Does you know a patch already released for lucid? I guess my problem is a little different regarding all the kernels i tried. I now consider that a best option will be to change the cpu cooling fan for another one compatible with the ubuntu hardware request. Can you please help me to solve that issue 
[07:58] <FloodBot3> patoncito1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:  lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:  and if its happiong with many different disrtos. it may be a kernel issue
[08:00] <patoncito1> i think so
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> laptop makers have their own idea of what 'standards' are.  they like to make up their own
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> 'new' laptops and mb's are often the most problematic. :(
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:   if theres a bug posted - keep testing lucid on it and report progress/if it ever gets fixed to the bug reports
[08:02] <Jasonrj> I just connected my xubuntu laptop to wifi and checked my email. Only took two days too!
[08:02] <Jasonrj> Thanks for your help people.
[08:02] <jeeez> how do i make top display memory in MB?
[08:02] <JamesG> Two days? Last time I installed a laptop it took me about 45 minutes from inserting the disk to being online
[08:03] <Ademan> jeeez: a -h (human readable) option is popular with most standard commands
[08:03] <Jasonrj> Took me longer than 45 just to let the install run
[08:03] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: So how do you like ubuntu????
[08:03] <patoncito1> Dr_Willis: i read some about the fan cooling issue, most of them solve by patch. I will open an new bug thanks
[08:03] <Ademan> jeeez: -H rather... heh
[08:03] <Jasonrj> My wifi hardware was not supported, had to use ndiswrapper. This is my first time using linux so I had no idea what I was doing at all.
[08:03] <jeeez> Ademan: thanks
[08:03] <JamesG> Jasonrj: Ok, then you're doing pretty well. Getting ndiswrapper to work can be.. challenging.
[08:03] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Nice so far, I like how much I can customize the menus and stuff, running faster than XP was as well.
[08:04] <Ademan> jeeez: no thanks necessary, also, top doesn't appear to support that option lol
[08:04] <jeeez> Ademan: still not in mB, shows it as %
[08:04] <jeeez> Ademan: yeah :(
[08:04] <hackoo> llutz: ok thanks, i dont want to spoof, anyways is it a real channel suggested ny you.
[08:04] <hackoo> by*
[08:04] <llutz> hackoo: just kidding, sorry
[08:05] <hackoo> np
[08:05] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: you can watch youtube videos to find so of the latest how to use this if visual helps a lot just search for product
[08:05] <jeeez> i just want to profile memory usage of a program, i was doing `top | grep app`
[08:05] <Ademan> jeeez: you do know that the VIRT and RES are virual and resident memory respectively right?
[08:05] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: have you found a list of compatible software????
[08:05] <jeeez> Ademan: yup
[08:05] <jeeez> oh yeah
[08:06] <Ademan> i'm not sure how they calculate the percentage (resident / physical ?) but you should be able to determine a useful value from virt and res
[08:06] <jeeez> :|
[08:06] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Doing that now, my biggest problem was a major bug I ran into with my network manager, and also the driver I found on a forum was for 64bit which I am not using, but didn't realize it for a few hours :O
[08:06] <jeeez> Ademan: sorry :D
[08:06] <Ademan> jeeez: :-p
[08:06] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: I've just started browsing software from the add/remove software menu
[08:07] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: just watch youtube videos on that software add/remove will take all night
[08:08] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Will do :)
[08:09] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: try this link also http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#5
[08:10] <Jasonrj> Awesome, thanks
[08:13] <duke_> how i can display output of files or programms a deamon is in use
[08:14] <Daughain> Any other ideas for the "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations" error?
[08:14] <r00tintheb0x> duke_, I don't get what you're saying.
[08:14] <obiwan_> ayall guys, please could you tell me if you think using same keypair for encryption and signing would be dangerous in terms of security?
[08:14] <obiwan_> i don't like to use two keypairs, one for signing and one for encrypting, but if it's dangerous to use a single one for both, i may think about it
[08:17] <Daughain> OK, how about where is the conf file for nautilus?
[08:17] <joecromo23> que onda
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  if a new user has the same issue. then that points to it not being a user config file issue
[08:18] <obiwan_> hola joecromo23 jeje , te explico este canal es el oficial y usan ingles como idioma, para español entra en #ubuntu-es
[08:19] <duke_> isnt this output a bit weird never heard of avahi http://pastebin.com/m276f8949
[08:20] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: The full error message says;Could not display"network:///" Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations
[08:21] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: The extra '/' in there took me a while to notice...
[08:21] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: SO, can I remove that extra '/'??=)
[08:21] <Dr_Willis>  network:///   is the url it uses here for the network. so 3 /// is right
[08:21] <lucky> hi, how do i add a kernel option with grub2 in 9.10 ?
[08:22] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[08:22] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Damn, every time I thni I found something that will help.. =)
[08:22] <xiong> Hi. System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects has three radio buttons: None, Normal, Extra. I set this to Normal but after every reboot, it reverts to None. Does anyone know where this setting is stored and what might be keeping it from storing properly?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  thers some gnome service/gvfs thing that handles that stuff. some hiow you managed to remove/stop it im guessing
[08:22] <Daughain> xiong: Are you closing out of visual effects properly?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if you could somehow force a reinstall of ubuntu-desktop,
[08:23] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, where is it?
[08:23] <xiong> Daughain, Do you mean, am I closing out the window by clicking the close box?
[08:23] <Daughain> xiong: Yes.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you could just move all the users .* setting type dirs to some other directory if you want to test the users settings
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  but i dont think its a user setting issue
[08:24] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: In other words, I may as well as reinstall ubuntu from scratch.
[08:24] <Daughain> That would seriously suck./
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you did check the forums and bug reports?
[08:24] <iflema> lucky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  try smb:///    see if that work
[08:25] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: No, because I dont expect this is a bug, and, next week is too long for me to try and mess around in forums to find my answer.
[08:25] <cowbud> !help
[08:25] <xiong> Daughain, I am pretty sure that's not it. I can't swear it, because I haven't tried that particular cycle of action as an experiment. But I habitually close windows of that sort; I don't leave them open through reboot. In fact, I habitually close all applications manually before reboot (although, I suppose, not before crashing). I've seen this failure to retain settings consistently through many iterations of try-and-see; it's cro
[08:25] <xiong> pped up since upgrade to Karmic.
[08:26] <lucky> iflema: i don't want to add a custom entry, i just want to add a single kernel parameter
[08:26] <duke_> i just wanna know the file started this service
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  it appears to be related to 'gvfs' some how. from what i just googled.
[08:26] <Daughain> xiong: Just a basic question.....Though, if you ugradedm instead of doinbg a fesh karmic install, that could be the issue right there, xiong . Upgrade has prived to be unreliable.
[08:26] <duke_> because somehow there are services getting started on my system dont know where belong
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its a 'bug' because removing kubuntu or kde or whatever dident properly set it back. would be my logic
[08:26] <iflema> lucky /etc/default/grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:27] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Where is gfvs?
[08:27] <lucky> iflema: yes i read through the wiki and i t doesn't make a lot of sense :(
[08:27] <xiong> Daughain, It's not the only issue I've had. I'm seriously thinking of shoving all my files onto DVD and doing a repartition (anyway) and fresh install. You can understand if I'm not eager.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its a special feature of gnome to allow remote filesystem/virtual filesystem features like network:/// and smb:/// and ftp:///
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  theres a .gvfs directroy in the users home.
[08:28] <duke_> isnt there a comment to find file which started service
[08:28] <Daughain> xiong: DUSnno about a rrpart, but fresh install of karmic is the way to go.
[08:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: ok, time to take a look at that.
[08:28] <iflema> lucky whats the required parameter... you could just make a custom entry with the parameter included
[08:28] <xiong> Daughain, I feel my partitioning scheme was suboptimal; this is not a Karmic issue, merely something to be done before a fresh install.
[08:28] <phobos_> hello
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  does 'smb:///' show the samba/wiondiows shares?
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: nohz=off
[08:29] <Daughain> xiong: Ok....Then, yeah, thats prolly thge best way to go.
[08:29] <Daughain> dr_ No such file/.directory
[08:29] <iflema> lucky good luck
[08:29] <Daughain> Dr_Willis:  No such file/dir
[08:29] <xiong> I wish I had some idea what I have to do *after* a fresh install to get my stuff back off DVD and into the box. It's one thing to restore home/; but there's all the other stuff, like all the CPAN modules I've installed and who knows what else.
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: i'm just going to stick it in grub.cfg
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: i'll re-add it when it gets wiped out
[08:29] <iflema> lucky negative
[08:29] <ssm2017> hello
[08:30] <ssm2017> where is my mac adress stored under karmic ?
[08:30] <xiong> I'm sorry to say I have not kept a paper record of everything done to the system. I have the notebook now, ready to fill in from the point of the repartition onwards.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  how about file:///home  or file:////home
[08:30] <Dhananjay2> ssm2017 ifconfig
[08:30] <ssm2017> someone is speaking about /etc/iftab but i cant find id
[08:30] <XDS> does adobe air work well on ubuntu ?
[08:30] <phobos_> plz I have a problem with my firewall and noip2 , can u tell me plz on what port noip2 is runing plz?? :)
[08:31] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Nope.
[08:31] <Dhananjay2> quit
[08:31] <ssm2017> Dhananjay2, my problem is that my network car is not working because this is a virtual machine that doesnt have the good mac adress so i need to change it because ifconfig is telling me "no such device"
[08:31] <Daughain> Also nothing in the .gfvs folder either....
[08:32] <ssm2017> XDS, adobe air is working fine for me
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[08:32] <XDS> ssm2017 how about the pandora one desktop app ?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  then log out/back in and try it
[08:32] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Whats a backend anyway?
[08:33] <ssm2017> XDS, i dont know this, im just using a simple air app that is not making problems
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> somthing that runs in the background
[08:33] <ssm2017> what is the file /etc/iftab ?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends libgnomevfs2-extra       perhaps...
[08:33] <hspaans> xiong: for CPAN you can use dh-make-perl and with dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections you can export and load a package list
[08:33] <Daughain> Wating for the first install to run. =)
[08:33] <kinja-sheep> Daughain: "a software program that controls operations not specified by the user"
[08:34] <Daughain> kinja-sheep: Thanks.
[08:34] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: gimme a min to logout.
[08:34] <xiong> According to many sources, it's not necessary to enable Compiz by selecting Visual Effects; one just goes straight to CompizConfig. I don't find this the case.
[08:34] <lucky> I'm still at a loss for this.  My hardware needs a kernel parameter to run, i'm running Ubuntu 9.10.  How do I add a kernel parameter for bootup?
[08:34] <iflema> lucky ill hint some what... if ya gut grub.cfg add that to custom menu, then knockout some of the important ones in /etc/grub.d and BAM you customisable
[08:34]  * Dr_Willis just googled for ---> Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations 9.10    and is repeating what he found on the link that said [SOLVED] :)
[08:35] <lucky> iflema: i don't understand
[08:35] <iflema> lucky its cryptic
[08:35] <xiong> hspaans, Do you mean dpkg for the aptitude package installs?
[08:35] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Thats what I needed. =)
[08:36] <rikkudo> xiong: If you have not installed the compiz config manager then you will have to enable the Visual Effects
[08:36] <hspaans> xiong: aptitude is just a front-end for dpkg
[08:36] <rdz> hi all. i am on ubuntu karmic and it seems, tha cpu frequency scaling doesn't work reliably, often when i run application or commands, that eat 100% cpu, cpu frequency stays at 800MHz instead of switching to 2400MHz
[08:36] <llutz> hspaans: aptitude is a frontend to apt, not dkpg
[08:36] <llutz> dpkg
[08:36] <Daughain> Now I need to fgure out the rest of the configuratio I need for what I want...
[08:36]  * Dr_Willis just googled for ---> Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations 9.10    and is repeating what he found on the link that said [SOLVED] :)
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  :P
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  now its ODD that ubuntu-desktop metapaciage dident pull that in.
[08:37] <rdz> what is even worse: since ubuntu karmic i cannot compile my own version of the cpufreq module, since it's a part of the kernel (no module anymore)
[08:37] <triplexxx> Got a link for apt-get , apptitude and packmanger...
[08:37] <RocketLauncher> Openbox won't start.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  and i cant imagine why removeing kde would remove it.. what else did you do to it? :)
[08:38] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Lets say I have not had good results trying google.
[08:38] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Lemme grab some coffee while I try to remember what I difd and in what order.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  Time to increase your google fu skills then young padawan....
[08:38] <xiong> rikkudo, I have installed CompizConfig. But when I reboot, Compiz is disabled. I have to go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects and select "Normal" to enable. I don't know why; this is only since Karmic upgrade.
[08:39] <hspaans> xiong: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/restore_packages_using_dselectupgrade/
[08:40] <xiong> hspaans, Gotcha. So I use the dh- suite to restore my CPAN modules, dpkg to restore my software installs generally -- all those I've installed through Synaptic or apt. What other things must I be careful to backup and restore?
[08:40] <hspaans> llutz: whatever makes you happy
[08:40] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: fu google is right. =)
[08:41] <hspaans> xiong: dh-make-perl can be used to create packages so you always know what has been installed
[08:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, I uninstalled samba while in kde, then did a reinstall. That didnt do what I wanted, so I used autoremove ... --purge to remove samba....
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  whats scary is i juist googled for the exact error message with '9.10' at the end. :)
[08:41] <RocketLauncher> Openbox wont start... if I start it from xterm it works fine. Any idea why?
[08:41] <RocketLauncher> i dont know how to save a log or anything so i cant reall do much
[08:41] <hspaans> xiong: you may want to keep a copy of /etc as well for future configuration issues
[08:41] <Gesi> hi
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  i still dont see how that would of affected gvfs at all.  but autoremove MIGHT of done somtjhing if you had removed ubuntu-desktop also
[08:42] <Gesi> how can i delete a folder i created
[08:42] <xiong> hspaans, That's cool. I didn't think CPAN and Synaptic stuff would be the worst of it; they stick out. I worry more about little setup and config files scattered here and there.
[08:42] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Tried a reinstall, and that popped an error for installing samba...
[08:42] <Daughain> dr_ listen to the whole thing. I'm going through it ste by step.
[08:42] <Gesi> when i try to delete it it says i dont have rights
[08:42] <theadmin> Gesi: Use sudo
[08:42] <xiong> hspaans, I'd like to avoid the paranoid full backup of the entire machine onto a spindle of DVDs.
[08:42] <Gesi> i used sudo rmdir ...
[08:42] <geirha> Gesi: You need to have write-permission to the folder containing the folder
[08:42] <Gesi> no effect
[08:43] <triplexxx> Dr_Willis: funny fu google and fu youtube should go in there so times videos are better even though I use videosurf.com
[08:43] <theadmin> Gesi: Try sudo rm -r name
[08:43] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: AT tat point I decided to switch to gnome to deal with samba, switched, and did a full package uninstall via synaptics. At that point it removed a large portion of kde apps.
[08:43] <hspaans> xiong: then switch from cpan to dh-make-perl, pear to dh-make-pear, etc
[08:43] <Gesi> it's the desktop
[08:43] <Gesi> i am trying
[08:43] <theadmin> Gesi: You can't delete the desktop I think.
[08:43] <Gesi> no no
[08:43] <Gesi> the folder containing it is the desktop
[08:44] <Gesi> haha
[08:44] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: In the middle of that uninstall, I oopsed and shtu off kdm, which kicked me to xtrerm, and I had to rbeoot to get back to gnome. Ran dpkg -a, and then ran the uninstall again...
[08:44] <hspaans> xiong: just buy a usb-hd, do a daiy rdiff-backup and keep a ubuntu install disk around
[08:44] <Gesi> why would i need to delete the desktop
[08:44] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, rm -r ~/Desktop/whatever
[08:44] <Gesi> theadmin, yes it worked
[08:44] <RocketLauncher> Openbox wont start... if I start it from xterm it works fine. Any idea why? i dont know how to save a log or anything so i cant reall do much
[08:44] <Gesi> thanks
[08:44] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Once that was al done, I installed samba with no issues, buyt then ra across the error you helped me with.
[08:45] <Gesi> theadmin, and one question
[08:45] <hspaans> xiong: and if you're wise, just config the usb-hd with LUKS and it can be encrypted as well
[08:45] <xiong> hspaans, Sorry, we're not on the same wavelength on the CPAN issue anymore. I may need to study up. As for the USB HD, dunno. That could run into quite a bit of cash.
[08:45] <theadmin> Gesi: Yes?
[08:45] <Gesi> theadmin, i donwloaded Angry ip scanner and now it doesnt work and i cant uninstall it
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:   You could make a new desktop session to launch openbox and some other apps and hope to figure out whats going on with it.
[08:46] <theadmin> Gesi: You installed it via package or via some binary installer?
[08:46] <Gesi> theadmin, i installed from ubuntu soft. center
[08:46] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try that
[08:46] <theadmin> Gesi: Hm, I don't know what package it is, but it should let you remove it the same way
[08:47] <hspaans> xiong: please study and don't worry. and the usb-hd, you can use them about 3 to 4 years for a daily rdiff-backup and set that price to say a weekly/daily backup to DVDs, but it is your money and your choice
[08:47] <kinja-sheep> Gesi, theadmin: I do not see any package for angry IP scanner. I think you obtained the DEB from jungle wilderness of Internet.
[08:47] <xiong> hspaans, Looks like I have about 33 Mb altogether. That's a dozen DVDs -- doable but unpleasant. I'd like to make a more intelligent selection during the backup phase.
[08:48] <theadmin> kinja-sheep: He sedzit it's present in USC... are you running Karmic at least?
[08:48] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i tried launching openbox from windowmaker and it worked just fine
[08:48] <misterB> Does anybody know of a free vpn service that works with Ubuntu?
[08:48] <Gesi> kinja-sheep theadmin ,sorry i got it from sourceforge and installed it
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: Yes I am.
[08:48] <kinja-sheep> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[08:48] <Daughain> This us setriously gonna get on my nerves tonight....
[08:48] <theadmin> Gesi: Ah, makes sense then... Hm, was it a .deb file?
[08:48] <hspaans> xiong: http://rdiff-backup.nongnu.org/ <-- just take your time to read up what you need
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, i think it was another format
[08:49] <xiong> hspaans, For CPAN, why not perl -MCPAN -e autobundle
[08:49] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: Open a terminal --> "apt-cache search angry" Look for installed package.
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, mayge sth starting with r
[08:49] <theadmin> Gesi: RPM?!
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  err.. launching one window manager from a 2nd window manager? thats a little weird. :)
[08:49] <Gesi> theadmin, yes
[08:49] <ms_> hello
[08:49] <theadmin> Gesi: That is not an ubuntish format
[08:50] <kinja-sheep> !rpm | Gesi
[08:50] <kinja-sheep> Gesi: In the future, use the repository or .deb packages.
[08:50] <Gesi> theadmin, i conerted it with alien someone told me how to
[08:50] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, well there's a menu for that
[08:50] <Daughain> This is why I run kde over gnome.....
[08:50] <hspaans> xiong: for CPAN, you may not want to bypass the dpkg. make-dh-perl just creates a DEB-package from CPAN and it will always show up in packagemanagers
[08:50] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, sorry, I've no idea how to use those on Ubuntu, it's actually not recommended
[08:51] <kinja-sheep> Gesi: "apt-cache search ipscan" -- You see any installed packages?
[08:51] <xiong> hspaans, By "study up" I meant getting the list of installed Perl modules. I want to do this carefully and vet the list by hand, since there's issues with XML::SAX.
[08:51] <xiong> hspaans, I have always installed from CPAN using cpan.
[08:51] <theadmin> Kinja-sheep: He did not use APT to install it, so it won't be in apt-cache at all.
[08:52] <hspaans> xiong: so also in your dpkg --get-selections for example, but there is also a copy of that in /var/backups
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  thats exiting windowmanager and starting openbox. theres also a GDM session to just launch a terminal you may want to try. How else are you trying to start openbox?
[08:52] <kinja-sheep> theadmin: If he used alien to convert it, it could be.
[08:52] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, gdm
[08:53] <hspaans> xiong: you're replacing libxml-sax-perl in ubuntu?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  its possible the gdm session (openbox.desktop) or whatever entry is doing somthing wrong. You couild make your own.
[08:53] <theadmin> kinja-sheep: Oh.
[08:53] <wangyang> hello
[08:53] <xiong> hspaans, Anyway, this really isn't my worry. I'm confident I can restore the list of installed Perl modules; I'm confident I can restore installled software and despite the time required, I'll probably do that all from the network and get fresh only. I'm much more worried about the little config files scattered about; and I'm very slow to spend money on hardware, sorry.
[08:53] <theadmin> Does anyone here know what graphical library does xpaint use? Does not seem it's GTK, nor it looks Qt-ish
[08:54] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i dont know how
[08:54] <deostroll> how do you create a shortcut via terminal
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  make a script called for example 'startopenbox.sh'  use the commands 'xterm &    then exec openbox' (2 lines) in it. and find/copy the openbox.desktop entry for gdm and rename.edit it to make it launch your new script.
[08:55] <psycho_oreos> man ln
[08:55] <wolter> deostroll, ^
[08:55] <hspaans> xiong: how much data do you have then?
[08:55] <theadmin> deostroll: ln -s /location/of/file shortcut-filename is the quickest way
[08:55] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, where openbox.desktop by the way
[08:56] <xiong> hspaans, I seem to have, at some point, installed XML::SAX from CPAN using cpan. This caused a bad conflict. I eventually removed all copies of it, which led to disaster, since apt/Synaptic depends on it to install stuff. So I had to install it from CPAN using cpan anyway, which may be the root of some of my issues. I want to be absolutely sure I don't fall into this trap again, so (not only for this reason) I plan to vet the CPAN
[08:56] <xiong>  list by hand before restoring.
[08:56] <Gesi> kinja-sheep, it says apt-catche is not found
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  use 'locate openbox.desktop' if thats its proper name.. it may be called somthing else.
[08:56] <theadmin> Gesi: It is apt-cache, not apt-catche
[08:56] <xiong> hspaans, The entire filesystem is about 35 Gb.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  or use  'locate gnome.desktop' and it is proberly in teh same place
[08:56] <deostroll> theadmin thanx, no actually thank u all...
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  RocketLauncher  /usr/share/xsessions/
[08:57] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, ok
[08:57] <Gesi> theadmin, it sHOWS ONLY angry ip scanner
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  i have 3 different openbox related .desktop files.. i rember why i dident care for openbox now.. :)
[08:57] <Gesi> theadmin, kinja-sheep: and a short description
[08:57] <theadmin> Gesi: Great, so then, what is exactly what it gives? Please paste it to ubuntu.pastebin.com and give the link
[08:57] <hspaans> xiong: ow you used cpan to replace software installed with a package manager, you on your own on that one
[08:58] <misterB> Anybody know how to get hotspot sheild or some other free VPN working on Ubuntu?
[08:58] <xiong> hspaans, I figure it's stupid to get a deliberately small piece of hardware, since a Tb can be had for about $100
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  openbox.desktop is running the rather complex script openbox-session so it could be thats failing.
[08:58] <xiong> hspaans, Yes, it was careless. That's why I want to be double sure I don't do it again.
[08:58] <t1n0m3n> whew, finally got my RT2870USB wifi working
[08:58] <Oak> What's the command to force architecture on a package meant for i368 for a 64 system? I need to install this deb.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  as a test you could go to just the failsafe terminal X session and try the command 'openbox-session' and look for error messages
[08:58] <hspaans> xiong: then switch to dh-make-perl instead of native CPAN
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i might try that
[08:59] <theadmin> Oak: Is no x64 version available?
[08:59] <phobos_> hi all
[08:59] <Oak> theadmin: I wish
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  its not too complex a script I guess. :) im looking at it now.
[08:59] <theadmin> Oak: okay, let me see the mans
[08:59] <Gesi> theadmin, i think it this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/db423b51
[08:59] <Bear10> I set up a SVN directory, and I set the folder permissions recursively to owner be www-data, and the group to be subversion, they have full permissions, and i belong to the group subversion, however when I try to create some directory or something via svn i get a "cannot open file .../db/text-current-lock permission denied"
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, anyways you just want me to make a file with: xterm & (new line) exec openbox
[08:59] <xiong> hspaans, Okay, let's move on from that. It's really not the issue. The issue is the *other* 33 Gb.
[08:59] <RocketLauncher> and rename it openbox.desktop?
[08:59] <Bear10> However if I set myself to the owner of the folder (rather than part of the group) its fine :/
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  that would be a testing session.. no need to rename the ting, You could make your OWN 'myopenbox-session' script and try it.. or just try the stuff from that failsafe X session with just the terminal
[09:00] <theadmin> Gesi: Okay, run "sudo apt-get remove ipscan && sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove it
[09:00] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try the failsafe right now
[09:00] <phobos_> plz can u tell me on which port noip2 is running?? the port 53 no?
[09:01] <Daughain> Can samba be set to allow access without needing to login each time?
[09:01]  * Dr_Willis has never heard of noip2
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  yes.
[09:01] <Gesi> theadmin, sorry but please i am trying to understand it too
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | Daughain
[09:01] <deostroll> theadmin: sorry problem again! I created the link using ln but can't execute the prog via the run app dialog (alt + F2)
[09:01] <xiong> Here's 1.5 Tb for $140: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=usb+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&ved=0CDsQrQQwAg&cid=1970056161596839468&sa=title#p
[09:01] <hspaans> xiong: have a look at rdiff-backup
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  samba can be set up to doo alll sprts of thiongs. :)
[09:01] <Daughain> All sorts of thongs?? So can I. =)
[09:02] <Gesi> theadmin, why do you have to use remove && ... autoremove
[09:02] <Gesi> ???
[09:02] <hspaans> xiong: with rdiff-backup you can have a timemachine like solution
[09:03] <Gesi> theadmin, it's gone thanks
[09:03] <Daughain> Ummm...WHats samba4????
[09:03] <theadmin> Gesi: Well, autoremove helps to get rid of unneeded dependencies
[09:03] <xiong> hspaans, Sorry, I don't think we're on the same wavelength. My issue is buying the hardware vs burning DVD (all) vs burning only some of the filesystem. Even with a complete, full backup, there's the issue of figuring out *what* to restore. Obviously, I don't want to restore anything that is now *causing* the issues I'm having. It would be foolish and pointless to do a backup, a fresh install, and a complete restore.
[09:03] <Gesi> theadmin, aha thanks
[09:04] <iceroot> deostroll: what are yoo trying to start? and how do you do it?
[09:04] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, there's no failsafe x
[09:04] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, now how do I read the doc?
[09:04] <RocketLauncher> just a failsafe gnome
[09:04] <Gesi> theadmin, and is there any option like for ex. when i press Shift,rightclick on a folder there is shown an option  which allows me to start terminal in the current directory
[09:05] <Gesi> theadmin, i mean vista like
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  it isntalls to /usr/share/docs I recall. :)
[09:05] <deostroll> iceroot: tweetdeck...the executable path is in /opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck
[09:05] <xiong> hspaans, As I said (and as I knew before), the right way to handle this is to make a paper notebook of every weird little corner case and one-char edit to obscure config files *as* you do them. I just didn't -- dunno why.
[09:05] <theadmin> Gesi: Sorry, don't know, maybe is possible
[09:05] <iceroot> deostroll: so you are using ./opt/TweetDeck/bin/TweetDeck ?
[09:05] <xiong> hspaans, Right now, I do not know exactly how my machine differs from a default install.
[09:05] <iceroot> deostroll: after using chmod +x on it?
[09:05] <Gesi> theadmin, ok thanks ,now i ll have morning bye
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> RocketLauncher:  no session just to start a xterm ? Hmm.. i got one here.. wonder where it came from
[09:06] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: As in read <path> samba??
[09:06] <deostroll> iceroot: chmod which? the link or the executable?
[09:06] <iceroot> deostroll: executable
[09:06] <Daughain> That didnt work.......
[09:06] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs
[09:06] <Gesi> theadmin, :)
[09:07] <Daughain> Thanks again.
[09:07] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, oh i got one
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  as in go to the directory and look at the files. :P
[09:07] <koshari> Gesi you can get a nautilus script that opens terminal here
[09:07] <xiong> hspaans, In fact, I'm just about certain that no amount of backing up is going to cover the whole thing. For instance, I recall that wine needs a special little script run before it's set up properly on my machine.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its proberly overkill.. but its worth a read.
[09:07] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, i'll try it again, i didnt look for error messages last time
[09:07] <iceroot> deostroll: is it a shell script? then you can also use sh /path/to/the/file
[09:07]  * Dr_Willis thinks Rocketlauincher needs to switch to irssi in the console
[09:07] <deostroll> iceroot: i think it has executable permission...when i double click on the exe it launches the app...
[09:08] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: going to the dir is a great idea, if you have a clue wat you are looking for. ;P
[09:08] <xiong> Beware All You Sinners! It is correct practice to keep a small, paper notebook and write down it in *every* system configuration change, patch, and fix you make. It might take you a week to get your sound card working the first time but if it's right, you'll never touch it again, and you'll forget what you did to make it work. That notebook is your salvation come fresh install time.
[09:09] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, I get Openbox is configured for 4 desktops,  but the current session has 1. Overriding the Openbox configuration. Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file "debian-menu.xml"
[09:10] <Jasonrj> Or, if you're out of paper, visit #ubuntu and ask to borrow xiong's notes.
[09:10] <deostroll> iceroot: how do i know if it is a shell script...? There shud b an icon f some sort right?
[09:10]  * xiong steals Jasonrj's pencil
[09:10] <Igramul> Hi, how can I configure the window manager so that pop ups (e.g. password prompts) do not steal the focus? It would be ideal, if those windows just blinked in the task bar.
[09:10] <hspaans> xiong: my notes normally end up as bug-IDs or patches
[09:11] <hspaans> xiong: or as part of a design document
[09:11] <xiong> Well, it's highly tempting, for those with several terabytes of disk, to put a .git/ repo in /.
[09:12] <hspaans> xiong: rm rf ~ solves that issue
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  just warniongs.. no real error.. does it start then?
[09:12] <rocketlauncher> in xterm, yes
[09:12] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/459005 i'm reading this
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  i think theres some doc/help icon in ubuntu that heads to that location.. but i always remove that icon
[09:13] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Definitely overkill......I dont even have a clue what doc to look at. :P
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  start with 'using samba' :) chapter 1
[09:13] <Daughain> Dr_Willis:  I found it. =) Just lost now. =)
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  seems to be some issue with gnome-settings deamon
[09:15] <Daughain> friggin html bs...
[09:16] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/459005/comments/4 is a solution but I'm not sure
[09:16] <rocketlauncher> if i should use it
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you would rather have it in ascii text?
[09:16] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Sure.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !info html2ascii
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> Hmm what is that packatge name....
[09:17] <Daughain> lol
[09:17] <llutz> html2text
[09:17] <Daughain> I'm reading it now.
[09:18] <infid> how can i skin Rhythmbox or at least change the background color?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  you could try it. i dont see why just making it sleep for  30 sec is a bad thing.. then again you might not even want to start gnome-settings-daemon
[09:18] <llutz> !html2text
[09:18] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, i really dont know what to do though
[09:18] <llutz> !info html2text
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, oh he just added sleep 30 and the rest.. at the bottom
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, just read it wrong.. i'll try it
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  alter your autostart.sh like the one he shows i guess.
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:19] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, yeah
[09:20] <rocketlauncher> wish he didn't paste the entire autostart.sh as if it was necessary, it confused me there
[09:20] <rocketlauncher> then starts talking in the middle..
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  as a dirty work around you could just have it not run the autostart. it seems thats causing the whold crash
[09:20] <rdz> hi all. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile says, that wanting another driver is no reason to compile a custom kernel. however, since in karmic many previous modules are now compiled into the kernel. how can use something like phc-linux _without_ compiling my own kernel?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> rocketlauncher:  yep. he dident use the proper codeblock/features in teh post
[09:21] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, i don't have an autostart there
[09:21] <infid> how come smbclient -L //myPC  shows stuff but smbtree myPC doesn't? is there some firewall port i have to open
[09:22] <rocketlauncher> Dr_Willis, mines is in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh my bad
[09:24] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Neat doc...I coudnt find a mention of the gui I am using though..
[09:24] <mud_bat> is there a windows printscreen equivalent for taking a screenshot in Ubuntu
[09:25] <koshari> xiong i prefer a wiki
[09:25] <ardchoille> mud_bat: the print screen key, or shift print screen
[09:26] <koshari> mud_bat yes, its even better
[09:26] <RocketLauncher> Dr_Willis, doesn't work
[09:26] <koshari> mud_bat > accesorries > print screen
[09:26] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you can also install Shutter, it's even better
[09:26] <ut4ugq> hi all
[09:26] <mud_bat> it's not working for me... I'll try shutter.  Thanks all
[09:26] <ardchoille> mud_bat: are you on Karmic?
[09:27] <koshari> mud_bat hows it not working?
[09:27] <mud_bat> it does nothing
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  what gui?
[09:27] <ardchoille> mud_bat: if you're on Karmic: sudo apt-get install shutter
[09:28] <Daughain> system-config-samba
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  never heard of it, or never used it.. :) i just edit the smb.conf file
[09:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Some of us are newbies. =)
[09:29] <infid> i shared a folder from Nautilus by going into the properies>share>create share  but it's not showing up in /etc/samba/smb.conf. any idea why not?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  thats why you ar reading the books...
[09:29] <mud_bat> I don't know if I'm on Karmic or not... I updated within a couple months
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> infid:  because the settings for that are not stored there. :) they are in  /var/lib/samba I think
[09:30] <ardchoille> mud_bat: lsb_release -r
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> infid:  they are in  /var/lib/samba/usershares
[09:30] <iceroot> Daughain: if you want a gui for samba use SWAT but the better way is vim + conf-file
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> I find using SWAT really messes me up.
[09:30] <mud_bat> ardchoille: 9.04
[09:31] <ardchoille> !info shutter jaunty
[09:31] <infid> Dr_Willis:  thanks
[09:31] <Daughain> OK, I'm a newb, and am trying to do this the way that makes the most sense for me to learn.
[09:31] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: as every gui but its a good way to start if someone doesnt like the conf-file
[09:31] <infid> Dr_Willis: also, how come smbclient -L //myPC  shows stuff but smbtree myPC doesn't? is there some firewall port i have to open
[09:31] <Daughain> and reading these docs usualy confuses me.
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you'll have to find a PPA for shutter
[09:31] <iceroot> Daughain: the best way of learning is vim + conf-file
[09:31]  * Daughain is a mechanic, not progrtammer.
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: you can search for a PPA here:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:31] <mud_bat> Karmic the latest release?
[09:31] <iceroot> mud_bat: yes
[09:31] <ardchoille> mud_bat: yes
[09:32] <mud_bat> I can just update again
[09:32] <Daughain> iceroot: WHats a vim + conf-file?
[09:32] <iceroot> Daughain: vim is a text-editor
[09:32] <infid> config files dont require programming
[09:32] <ardchoille> mud_bat: That would be good, Karmic is pretty nice IMHO
[09:32] <infid> they're name-value pairs, ie  'foo=bar'
[09:32] <iceroot> Daughain: sorry, let me correct this, vim is THE editor for the cli
[09:32] <infid> instead of clicking on 'foo' in a gui and selecting 'bar'
[09:32] <ardchoille> iceroot: seconded :)
[09:32] <bhargava> is updating kernel or getting the latest version of distro the same
[09:33] <mud_bat> thanks for the help all
[09:33] <iceroot> ardchoille: of course not :)
[09:33] <ardchoille> iceroot: meaning "Isecond that"
[09:33] <iceroot> ardchoille: ah ok
[09:33] <Daughain> iceroot: Let me correct myself. I have almost 1.5 months on linux, and minimal programming background. tuts and docs tend to confuse me, and I have no clue what a cli is.
[09:34] <hspaans> bhargava: no and you may want to stick with the latest stable version of the distro you're using
[09:34] <ardchoille> emacs is a nice OS, hopefully someone will write a good text editor for it someday
[09:34] <tamran> howdy everyone
[09:34] <infid> GUIs are really over rated. they only give the illusion of being easier because they put a buncha options in front of you to chose, vs writing something manually in a config file where you have to type the values and sometimes the names (which requires finding the list of names, just in docs rather than the current window)
[09:34] <bhargava> oh
[09:34] <iceroot> Daughain: cli = command line interface
[09:34] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: cli = command-line interface
[09:34] <RobLikesBrunch> Oops, iceroot beat me to it.
[09:34] <shuaib> Hi guys, trying to setup ip masquerading on my unbuntu 9.10, but running into all sorts of iptables problems, probably the service isn't even running and chkconfig and service aren't even able to identify the service.
[09:34] <shuaib> Any clue?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> infid:  ive noticed that also.. not sure whatsg going on. theres no default firewall ports blocked
[09:34] <iceroot> RobLikesBrunch: :)
[09:34] <infid> Dr_Willis: well if i disable ufw smbtree works again
[09:34] <meganerd> Daughain: that is fine, but if you want to actually use your computer to its potential, the command line is your friend
[09:34]  * Daughain grins..
[09:34] <Daughain> See what I mean about being a newb?
[09:35] <RobLikesBrunch> meganerd: Best friend! <3
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> infid:  thats not 'bu default' :) so siounds like ya got somting blocked.
[09:35] <Daughain> meganerd: I agree.....Gimme a few more months, and I will be doing even more thorugh it.
[09:35] <bhargava> but what new features distro has are the ones in the kernel
[09:35] <infid> Dr_Willis: but i'm currently opening 137, 138, 139 and 445
[09:35] <Diverdude> is there a built in dictionary in ubuntu?
[09:35] <xiong> koshari, I like wikis too; I've run a few. But I don't see how to use one to track my system configuration.
[09:35] <shuaib> Or if someone could tell me an easeir way to convert my ubuntu machine into a wifi hotspot :)
[09:35] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: I'm rather new to Linux myself--and at first the command-line was very confusing to me because I had been using a GUI for all my previous computing experience.
[09:35] <Daughain> right now, I need to get my baqsic lan setup, then I can worry about the more interesting things.
[09:35] <tamran> can anyone reccomend to me a secure way to copy files from one ubuntu computer to another across a home network?  I used to use ssh years ago (haven't used linux in a while this way) however I have heard ssh wasn't so secure?
[09:35] <iceroot> tamran: scp
[09:35] <meganerd> Daughain: you may wish to start with nano, I can't live without vim anymore, even on windows, but nano will behave in a fashion that you probably already expect
[09:36] <Daughain> RobLikesBrunch: U cut my teeth on unix *many* years ago.
[09:36] <rww_> tamran: ssh is fine
[09:36] <llutz> tamran: you won't find something more secure
[09:36] <meganerd> tamran: scp, lftp fish://
[09:36] <iceroot> tamran: ssh is the most secure thing you will find
[09:36] <meganerd> rsync + ssh
[09:36] <RobLikesBrunch> Daughain: Ah :P
[09:36] <mRmiSta> hey all, got a problem with /dev/null being mod600 upon reboot, so non 'root' users cant access it, how to perm change to 666 ?
[09:36] <tamran> thanks iceroot, rww_ and llutz
[09:36] <Diverdude> is there a built in dictionary in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Daughain> cli doesnt bother or scare me, I just dont know enough to make it too useful as of yet.
[09:36] <infid> Daughain:  don't feel bad about being a noob. a noob in linux will probably advance at software faster than a windows noob, out of necessity of using the o/s. although ubuntu is getting really good at being thinkless
[09:37] <iceroot> tamran: scp localfile user@server:/path/to/save/the/file
[09:37] <meganerd> shuaib: there is no iptables service
[09:37] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: There is. Office --> Dictionary. Or alt + f2 and type gnome-dictionary.
[09:37] <bhargava> exit
[09:37] <shuaib> meganerd, then how am I supposed to setup ip masquerading on ubuntu? Or do you mean I have to setup the iptables service first?
[09:37] <Daughain> infid: I dont feel bad, I just need to keep explaining, because people keep talking above my head. =) STarted going bald about a month ago. =)
[09:37] <tamran> ok, one more question ... back in the good  old gentoo days, I would set up ssh listening via /etc/init.d/ ... how do I go about enabling it in  gentoo?  ssh is not in that folder
[09:38] <iceroot> tamran: #gentoo
[09:38] <infid> i don't care how many decent guis are created for linux, i will never abandon the cli. it's just so much faster
[09:38] <meganerd> shuaib: usually you create a script that sets up the rules
[09:38] <tamran> iceroot: I'm in ubuntu now
[09:38] <Daughain> Right now, all I wanna know is what authentication mode to use to allow my lan to not require a pwd everytime it connects.
[09:38] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i see...and is it possible to put new languages into this dictionary?
[09:38] <dobblego> why doesn't my microphone input volume persist? it keep going back to very low
[09:38] <shuaib> meganerd, rules for what? If iptables doesn't even exist on the system?
[09:38] <meganerd> infid: yup, there is a reason microsoft took the trouble of inventing powershell
[09:38] <iceroot> tamran: correct but this is not gentoo support
[09:38] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Edit --> Preferences --> Source
[09:38] <tamran> oh ...
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: it is built in to the kernel, so it is just there, waiting for you to do stuff
[09:39] <shuaib> meganerd, any idea how to start the service?
[09:39] <shuaib> The normal starting ain't working
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: by default ubuntu has no listening services, so there are no rules defined
[09:39] <shuaib> service iptables start not working
[09:39] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, okay....And how do i find the correct dictionary then?
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: it is not a service
[09:39] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: And I believe that you can download sources directly from Synaptic.
[09:39] <tamran> iceroot: thanks again.  However, I've not used gentoo for years.  I'm trying to do it in ubuntu  and it's all different
[09:39] <infid> i just dont get how smbclient -L //hostname  can work and smbtree hostname and findsmb hostname don't, even though my firewall is the same during all those commands
[09:39] <shuaib> meganerd, aah, then...?
[09:39] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Let me check.
[09:39] <meganerd> shuaib: there is nothing to start
[09:40] <shuaib> meganerd, the tutorials I am reading on net describe it so
[09:40] <nafi> how to install printer : canon ip1980
[09:40] <tamran> the commands and such I know
[09:40] <iceroot> tamran: in ubuntu there is /etc/init.d/ssh
[09:40] <shuaib> You mean it is different now?
[09:40] <tamran> oh ...
[09:40] <meganerd> shuaib "sudo iptables -L" will tell you what rules are defined, there should not be any
[09:40] <tamran> I must not have installed the service
[09:40] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, Forexample if i want a danish/english, English/Dansih dictionary
[09:40] <llutz> tamran: openssh-server
[09:40] <mRmiSta> how to fix -> bash: /dev/null: Permission denied <- for non root users?
[09:40] <shuaib> meganerd, yea, there aren't
[09:40] <iceroot> tamran: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:40] <tamran> llutz: ahhh, ok thanks
[09:41] <tamran> iceroot: installing.  Thank you kindly :)
[09:41] <meganerd> shuaib: just start defining things from the command line
[09:41] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Oh. Okay, one moment.
[09:41] <infid> mRmiSta: what are you doing to get that error
[09:41] <meganerd> I would put it all in a script
[09:41] <meganerd> you may wish to look at the fwbuilder package to help you get started
[09:41] <shuaib> There is no need for starting/restarting the service? How do I save those rules?
[09:41] <iceroot> tamran: ubuntu does not come with ssh-server by default
[09:41] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, Alright
[09:41] <meganerd> some GUI front ends refer to it as a service, but this is not really accurate, it is just easier for windows people to grok
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, Aha,  There is no need for starting/restarting the service? How do I save those rules?
[09:42] <infid> tamran yeah you gotta 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' then 'sudo ufw allow 22/tcp' or whatever your firewall requires
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, coz I did define some rules, and seems like system restart has flushed them out
[09:42] <meganerd> gotta run, I can help you with firewall rules later if you are around, I do that for a living
[09:42] <mRmiSta> /dev/null has access 600, so only root can access, i have non root accounts that need /dev/null access, eg eggdrop bot, but get permission denied.
[09:42] <pdg1> has anyone here gotten a sec Slave drive - ATAPI incompatible error at boot and fixed it?
[09:42] <shuaib> meganerd, aah, wish you could be here for a while
[09:42] <shuaib> See you later mate
[09:42] <meganerd> shuaib: yes, you need to put them in a script which is where they will be remmeberd
[09:42] <mRmiSta> if i delete /dev/null and mknod etc, then it all works again.
[09:43] <shuaib> meganerd, okie
[09:43] <mRmiSta> but upon reboot, its back to 600.
[09:43] <llutz> mRmiSta: udev-bug?
[09:43] <mRmiSta> i think so, yes.
[09:43] <mRmiSta> as udev restart fails
[09:43] <infid> mRmiSta: oh weird. not sure. my /dev/null is 0666, which allows non root users to use it
[09:44] <what> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Feb 16  2009 /dev/null
[09:44] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Sorry. You can add an English/Danish dictionary, but I'm trying to figure out how. I haven't done it before.
[09:44] <what> thats your default dev null permissions, congradulations
[09:44] <mRmiSta> etc/init.d/udev restart = Kernel uevent sequence number not available, cowardly not restarting udev
[09:44] <Darkedge> i have a special keybord that is meant to let me control volume when I press the volume+ key, I see the little volume bar appear, except the volume doesn't actully change, any ideas? >.>
[09:44] <mRmiSta> thats the error i get for udev
[09:45] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i see...It seems to be quite advanced to do so
[09:45] <infid> Darkedge: in the keyboard preferences in the system menu are you sure you have that set under 'volume up/down'?
[09:45] <what> god does anyone in here even BOTHER to google?
[09:45] <pdg1> the problem is i don't even know how to trouble shoot this kind of problem
[09:45] <what> Darkedge: try google.
[09:45] <ardchoille> !google
[09:45] <infid> google and irc don't mix, kinda like google and china
[09:45] <nafi> i can't install my printer (canon ip1980)
[09:45] <mRmiSta> llutz: crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Jan 17 08:25 /dev/null, so no user accounts can access it, only root.
[09:46] <what> ardchoille: rather than showing me a crap line in some random crap bot lets do this. www.googleguide.com go read, learn and stfu
[09:46] <mRmiSta> ive tried google/ubutu forums... nothing.
[09:46]  * tamran is copying files ...
[09:46] <what> mRmiSta: i showed u the permissions
[09:46] <ardchoille> what: people come here to get answers from others who might have lived through their problem already. they don't come here only to be sent to google
[09:46] <what> crw-rw-rw-
[09:46] <ardchoille> !stfu | what
[09:46] <infid> there should be an irssi script that automatically runs google on any message containing a question mark
[09:47] <what> ardchoille: that is no excuse for not doing ANY reasearch
[09:47] <what> s/reasearch/research
[09:47] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: I think I almost got it. One moment.
[09:47] <ardchoille> what: Calm down, not everyone is as research minded as you are.
[09:47] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, ahh nice ok :)
[09:47] <what> ardchoille: then go install windows lol
[09:47] <infid> asking on irc technically is research
[09:47] <mRmiSta> what: if i delete /dev/null, and mknod it works, but upon reset/reboot, the permissions are back to 600
[09:47] <what> if you wanna have a GOOD operating system you need GOOD habbits for it to run right
[09:47] <ardchoille> what: please be productive and respectful to others
[09:47] <what> otherwise youll end up disabling many things that would other wise protect, or not configure things that should be
[09:48] <pdg1> kick him... i want to see blood :D
[09:48] <what> ardchoille: if your talking about yourself its not happening.
[09:48] <EastDallas> can't someone boot this guy?
[09:48] <what> pdg1: i've a half dozen clones it wont do anyhting lol
[09:48] <pdg1> lol
[09:48] <infid> mRmiSta: man pages are also good. from what i can tell in man mknod, you need to use '-m' or '--mode' to set the umask
[09:48] <pdg1> don't ask me... i hate computers
[09:49] <what> ok gosh, let me SHOW you how to google.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> s -l /dev/null
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2010-01-14 14:03 /dev/null
[09:49] <llutz> infid: what should it help if udev creates device with wrong permissions after reboot?
[09:49] <pdg1> lmgtfy.com ?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. whats the c mean.. i forget...
[09:49] <llutz> Dr_Willis: character device
[09:49] <what> c denotes a character special file
[09:50] <infid> oh yeah forgot about udev, there's probably somethign similar for udev
[09:50] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, got it?
[09:50] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Can you check something for me? Go to Office -- Dictionary --> Preferences --> Source and see if you get an "Advanced" button.
[09:51] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, no i only have Add, Remove, Help and Close there
[09:52] <mRmiSta> llutz and infid, udev doesnt restart (no idea why) and /dev/null goes back to 600 upon reboot. not sure how to fix.
[09:52] <ardchoille> The notifications bubbles that popup in the upper right corner in KArmix. How can I theme those?
[09:52] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Me too, but on older versions there was an "Advanced settings" button that allowed you to select which dictionary you wanted...so I need to figure that out.
[09:52] <ardchoille> s/KArmix/Karmic/
[09:52] <llutz> mRmiSta: no idea, but i guess if you fix udev, /dev/null will be ok too
[09:53] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i wonder if they moved that button to somewhere else
[09:53] <mRmiSta> llutz, ive been trying. :/ no evail 'yet'
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: But if you install the dict pacakage (sudo apt-get install dict) and then type (dict -h dict.org --dbs | grep Danish) you'll see that there is an English-Danish dictionary.
[09:53] <fpb> Does anybody have good instructions on installing hamachi on ubuntu?
[09:53] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, But isn't that what the addbutton does?
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: So I'm just trying to see how to install it :3
[09:53] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Yes, but then it just adds a "generic" dictionary. One sec. I'll look into it.
[09:54] <pdg1> so i googled the  sec Slave drive - ATAPI incompatible error i got and all the solutions people had don't seem to be fixing the problem for me. I just installed a new SATA HDD... and have since removed it trying to fix the problem. does anyone have input?
[09:54] <mRmiSta> i keep getting -> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) error also upon apt-get :/
[09:55] <mRmiSta> although its mounted -> devpts 128M 4.0K 128M 1% /dev/pts
[09:55] <przemo_one> hi
[09:56] <przemo_one> testing colour
[09:56] <przemo_one> testing
[09:56] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It seems a lot of people don't have advanced settings. Let me search the forums :)
[09:56] <przemo_one> hi
[09:56] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, that is really odd....why would they want to make the dictionary worse in a upgrade
[09:57] <przemo_one> so what's the problem people?
[09:57] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: They may have implemented some other method for adding dictionaries...but even in the documentation they show an advanced button.
[09:57] <pdg1> przemo_one, my CD drive just decided to stop working
[09:57] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, very strange indeed
[09:57] <pdg1> :P
[09:57] <przemo_one> that should do
[09:58] <przemo_one> pdg1 happens
[09:58] <pdg1> but i had a spare... and that one's not even working
[09:58] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: And the console commands don't work for it either anymore?
[09:58] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: This is very odd.
[09:58] <pdg1> so I'm SURE it's a setting I've got mussed up... but I can't figure out what i mussed up
[09:59] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, did somebody mess it up i wonder
[09:59] <przemo_one> pdg1 what ware you doing?
[10:00] <andreo> after a week of not using my notebook it shows 'grub error:unknown file system'
[10:00] <shuaib> Trying to change wlan0's mode to anything (ad-hoc, monitor) and it says device or resource busy, any idea please?
[10:00] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Perhaps post on the forums about it--maybe they know more.
[10:01] <pdg1> przemo_one, trying to install a new sata HDD i got. all the google searches i've done on it seem to suggest that it has to do with adding new hardware and it trying to find an HDD to boot from
[10:01] <przemo_one> shuaib ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Be sure to specify it as "gnome-dictionary". There's another dictionary called "stardict" but it seems very cluttered and inferior to me.
[10:01] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, but there must be a solution
[10:01] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Let me see if there's a newer version.
[10:02] <przemo_one> pdg1 but your CDROM is not working right?
[10:02] <pdg1> przemo_one, i've removed the new hardware and there' still no HDD on there... and keeps giving me the same thing.
[10:02] <Copter> Hi, should I be avoiding using directories with spaces in linux?
[10:02] <rww> Copter: nope. They're sometimes inconvenient because you have to "quote them" or escape\ them on the command line, but other than that it's fine.
[10:02] <pdg1> przemo_one, CDROM will open close, but comp wont boot from it and the ubuntu ive got on there don't see it either
[10:02] <przemo_one> pdg1 so can you boot to your ubuntu??
[10:02] <coldfire> hi i have installed kubuntu-destop on ubuntu gnome 9.10 then i removed the kubuntu desktop but all the applications and system tools still there how do remove them all ? thx
[10:03] <ardchoille> Copter: no, you can quote them or escape them if needed: "/path/file with space"  or  /path/file\ with\ spaces
[10:03] <pdg1> boots to HDD no problem
[10:03] <rww> !puregnome | coldfire
[10:03] <Copter> ardchoille: thanks
[10:03] <przemo_one> pdg1 give me a moment to think
[10:03] <ardchoille> yw
[10:03] <pdg1> przemo_one, boots to HDD no problem
[10:03] <coldfire> ok rww thanks
[10:03] <przemo_one> pdg1 please post /etc/fstab
[10:04] <andreo> i have grub loading problem 'error: unknown file system'. How to solve it?
[10:04] <pdg1> The bios has an "optimal settings" option, I'm thinking i should try that aswell
[10:04] <przemo_one> not here :)
[10:04] <przemo_one> pdg1 do not mess with bios!
[10:06] <przemo_one> pdg1 please run cdrecord scanbus or cdrdao scanbus (in terminal as root)
[10:08] <pdg1> przemo_one, aiight...
[10:08] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It seems it's a known bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=374268
[10:09] <przemo_one> pdg1 output should show your drive
[10:09] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: Oh wait, that's dated 2006. Nevermind that.
[10:09] <pdg1> otherwise?
[10:09] <TET> hello group
[10:09] <przemo_one> hello to YOU
[10:10] <przemo_one> pdg1 it must. if not drive is not connected properly
[10:10] <TET> i want to talk to a ubuntu distri dude
[10:10] <przemo_one> pdg1 tose commands it might be -scanbus or --scanbus
[10:11] <TET> is someone here, who cares für the update packages
[10:11] <przemo_one> pdg1 cdrdao might not be present. cdrecord must be
[10:11] <pdg1> przemo_one, and it has to be root... not a su command?
[10:11] <TET> iam a java developer and i want to upgrade/update it AUTOMATICLY not f.u.c.k.n with installscripts
[10:12] <przemo_one> pdg1 su or sudo do just fine :)
[10:12] <lynxsys> Hey all
[10:12] <TET> on the update server .... update u15 is the case, the latest official version is u18
[10:12] <muhammad_> hi all,
[10:12] <TET> is that a kindergarden here ?
[10:13] <przemo_one> hi
[10:13] <pdg1> przemo_one, FANTASTIC! it found the cd drive with cdrecord scanbus
[10:13] <TET> wtf
[10:13] <hspaans> TET: show some respect
[10:13] <przemo_one> pdg1 so it's connected properly
[10:13] <rww> ubottu: language | TET
[10:13] <lynxsys> can anyone help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found
[10:13] <TET> it shows me how ur acting with other work
[10:14] <muhammad_> how do i clean the boot menu in ubuntu 9.10?, there is a long list of kernel options after numerous updates, I am using grub2
[10:14] <TET> i give my respect, coz i use ubuntu
[10:14] <przemo_one> pdg1 i bet it's the new one
[10:14] <pdg1> przemo_one, so what am i looking for specifically with this
[10:14] <BlouBlou> muhammad_: go to synaptic and remove old kernels manually
[10:14] <przemo_one> pdg1 could you give me those numrers like 0,1,0 or something
[10:14] <TET> my language is german, so i watched for that already :p
[10:14] <pdg1> przemo_one, i'll try to pastebin.ca it
[10:15] <rww> TET: There's a German-language channel at #ubuntu-de if you'd prefer to use that?
[10:15] <przemo_one> pdg1 please paste also content of /etc/fstab. you can access it by using gedit /etc/fstab
[10:15] <TET> 1. i want to upgrade jdk under ubuntu 9.10, unlikely the actual update is not includet there (i mail them seperately)
[10:15] <TET> 2. i downloaded the .bin installer here and run it on my computer
[10:15] <TET> 3. i can not find any hint or manual on this site, that shows me - how to do that.
[10:15] <TET> 4. under windooze, the installer works well, i switched to debian/ubuntu to develop in here and its not working!
[10:15] <TET> 5. do your homework - i want it "out-of-the-box" and not fucking with installscripts
[10:15] <FloodBot3> TET: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <Xepera> RIGHT RIGHT
[10:16] <pdg1> http://pastebin.ca/1754527
[10:16] <TET> http://pastebin.ca/1754529
[10:16] <przemo_one> TET I'm not previledged user but you shouldwatch your lenguage.
[10:17] <muhammad_> BlouBlou: I also want to  make changes to list Entries, for example changes the old long entries to "Ubuntu Karmic" only , any idea how to do this?
[10:17] <TET> thx emo
[10:17] <TET> iam very close to explode and acting like hulk
[10:17] <llutz> !attitude > TET
[10:17] <ardchoille> przemo_one: you're just as privileged as the rest of us here
[10:18] <BlouBlou> muhammad_: As I said, removing kernels by synaptic only will remove current os' kernels
[10:18] <przemo_one> pdg1 now that fstab lepase :)
[10:18] <llutz> ardchoille: but unfortunately not kick-privileged
[10:18] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: I posted on the forums for you: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383346
[10:18] <ardchoille> llutz: true
[10:18] <hspaans> TET: their was some help coming, but you act like a child so good luck
[10:18] <TET> several upgrades to the kernel has be done and other updates to the rest of ubuntu ... but java is not included in that progress
[10:18] <pdg1> przemo_one, http://pastebin.ca/1754531
[10:18] <chipgeri> grub not detecting windows..how do i fix it? i have 2 hard disks and both ubuntu and windows are in different harddisks
[10:19] <TET> and i WILL NOT act like a script-kiddy to get that running
[10:19] <triplexxx> TET: what is your point exactly .... linux is used to be for individual needs not one set platform so were are you going with this????
[10:19] <TET> did i make myself clear in here
[10:19] <TET> chipgery look out for the [x] bootflag
[10:20] <TET> chipgeri look out for the [x] bootflag
[10:20] <TET> i didnt find a feedback mail address on the project page, so i went here
[10:20] <chipgeri>  TET:where will it be?
[10:20] <TET> and the once i see is, that i should be more friendly ?
[10:21] <triplexxx> TET: not sure what your point is in updates there just like add-ons for iphones and firefox!!!!!
[10:21] <TET> chipgeri, under windows "control panel / harddisc manager"
[10:21] <TET> i want java 1.6.0_u18 AND NOT a year old _u15
[10:21] <lynxsys> can anyone i help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found when I startx
[10:22] <rww> TET: Ubuntu doesn't generally update packages to new major versions for stability reasons.
[10:22] <TET> rww sun patched the upgrade BECAUSE of security reason, so dont take that as reason
[10:22] <chipgeri>  TET: im not able to boot to windows because grub is not detecting xp
[10:22] <rww> TET: I don't know if that's what's going on here, since I don't understand Java's versioning system, but it's one possibility.
[10:22] <przemo_one> pdg1 this line with /dev/scd0 . please replace it with /dev/cdrom
[10:22] <przemo_one> pdg1 leave the rest of the line as is.
[10:22] <TET> chipgeri .. use a bootable disc or usb
[10:23] <hspaans> TET: security stuff is being backported
[10:23] <TET> iam not firm enough under lunix to fuqq with the scripts
[10:23] <TET> same point why iam here
[10:23] <TET> IAM NOT A SCRIPTKIDDY damn
[10:23] <bazhang> !enter | TET
[10:23] <ardchoille> !ops | TET needs a hint about language (others have already warned him)
[10:23] <bazhang> TET, please lose the caps
[10:23] <pdg1> przemo_one, should that allow me to boot from CD?
[10:23] <TET> none of u knows how to build software and u want to tell me, i should watch my language
[10:24] <xukun> is it wise to install the nvidia 195 drivers already?
[10:24] <przemo_one> TET Linux comes as it is. If you don't like it and if your'e not polite you don't have to use it or expect any help.
[10:24] <bazhang> TET, remain civil or you will removed
[10:24] <przemo_one> pdg1 i thought that te problem is that system is not mounting discs :)
[10:24] <TET> my language is JAVA ur retard dudes
[10:25] <ardchoille> Thank  you bazhang
[10:25] <hspaans> for the record it was make-jpkg / java-package to create your own Java-DEBs
[10:25] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, or booting from them
[10:26] <triplexxx> TET: watch what you say I know programming language what is your point???? on updates if you don't like the update go to an older version of ubuntu or whatever linux distro you have
[10:26] <Copter> I have an application that creates a dir under C:\Users\My_User . Anyone can suggest where would it create it under linux? I Searched my user home and its not there
[10:26] <przemo_one> pdg1 this should make sytem to read disk after you insert. to boot, now that's bios function.
[10:26] <rww> Copter: are you using WINE?
[10:26] <lynxsys> will apt-get update update my system software?
[10:26] <Copter> rww: vmware
[10:26] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, I don't know what happened to the BIOS from when i simply added new hardware
[10:26] <rww> lynxsys: to get updates for the current version of Ubuntu, you'd do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade.
[10:26] <MorphyNOR> Copter: /home/youruser/
[10:27] <lynxsys> thanks
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> Copter: or, /usr/here somwhere
[10:27] <rww> Copter: ah, no idea then. Not familiar with vmware.
[10:27] <Copter> ok thx
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> Copter: what sort of files?
[10:27] <Copter> ahy nm
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> or rather, which program?
[10:27] <Copter> im an idiot
[10:27] <Copter> its hidden
[10:27] <Copter> used ctrl+h and it worked
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> ah :)
[10:27] <FloodBot3> Copter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <MorphyNOR> . ;)
[10:27] <przemo_one> Copter it might make dirrectory c:UsersMy USer or something the best is to use find ~ | grep My_User or instead of ~ use /
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, hey, i like your posting. thx
[10:28] <przemo_one> pdg1 so it was bootng from cd, but now it does not?
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, ill follow it
[10:28] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, no replies yet though :(
[10:28] <pdg1> przemo_one, correcto
[10:29] <t1n0m3n> what is the correct way to make changes to grub2 on karmic?
[10:29] <RobLikesBrunch> Diverdude: It's a very specific issue, and I'm unsure if it actually has a solution...so it will be slow.
[10:29] <uniq_user> look in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub/
[10:29] <Andy14> Heya
[10:29] <jo_> hey
[10:30] <ardchoille> !grub2 | t1n0m3n
[10:30] <ardchoille> t1n0m3n: Good tutorial there
[10:30] <przemo_one> pdg1 when you boot press escape or f10 or something that will bring boot menu. you can change boot settings permanently as well there must be boot device priority or something like that. this is not ubuntu/linux  related question :)
[10:30] <jo_> Anyone here know about getting Perfect World International to work with Ubuntu 9.10
[10:30] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch, i was hoping for that not to happen
[10:30] <Andy14> tried wine and installed directx?
[10:30] <jo_> Ye it worked the other day
[10:31] <jo_> and now it won't work
[10:31] <Andy14> What've you done? :0
[10:31] <triplexxx> t1n0m3n: there is no correct way to edit grub just need to access the file with root privileges in either a graphics mode or gedit mode
[10:31] <jo_> I dunno, I did nothing!!
[10:31] <uniq_user> I think he meant where are the correct files to edit
[10:31] <ardchoille> triple_xxx: grub2 is much different
[10:31] <pdg1> przemo_one, okay... any idea where i might find some help with AMI BIOS?
[10:31] <Andy14> if you didn't do anything, nothing would have changed
[10:32] <MorphyNOR> jo_: We're not going to punish you if you did :P
[10:32] <jo_> Ok but I don't know what I did, if I did anything :p
[10:32] <triplexxx> jo_: use playonlinux go to www.playonlinux.com works great
[10:32] <Andy14> What's the problem anyway?
[10:32] <Diverdude> RobLikesBrunch,  are you a scholar?
[10:33] <lynxsys> can anyone help with this warning: xsession: xrdb command not found; X resources not found when I startx from console?
[10:33] <Andy14> well
[10:34] <Andy14> you got something deleted I guess
[10:34] <sabgenton> update-rc.d foo remove
[10:34] <sabgenton> will this also remove /etc/init.d/foo
[10:34] <sabgenton> ?
[10:34] <przemo_one> pdg1 ami bios just google man or girl f2 should be for entering setup. f10 for boot menu. if it's not generic might be different. try f8 and escape.
[10:34] <pdg1> przemo_one, I suppose i could prolly google that
[10:34] <jo_> ok I'll try playonlinux and be back if i'm stuck, thanks all xx
[10:34] <pdg1> przemo_one, yeah, sorry :P
[10:34] <pdg1> lol
[10:35] <pdg1> wel it says DEL to enter setup... so i'm there
[10:35] <przemo_one> pdg1 not a problem try those ffffsssss :)
[10:36] <przemo_one> pdg1 f2 then might be the answer
[10:36] <pdg1> przemo_one, hooo boy... these settings look spooky
[10:36] <przemo_one> pdg1 it should also in manual of your mother board if you have desktop system.
[10:37] <przemo_one> pdgi do not mess with them
[10:37] <pdg1> ha... like i have a manual
[10:38] <autostart> .
[10:38] <t1n0m3n> I am getting this error "grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `isw_dfgiefhhie_SpeedVolume1'"
[10:39] <Daugha|n> That just sounds kinky...
[10:39] <t1n0m3n> It is a SW raid in the bios
[10:40] <t1n0m3n> I am guessing os-prober won't work correctly with a SW raid
[10:40] <malik__> hi, my synaptec pkg mngr stopped responding, i force killed the process, now  i cant start it. what do i do now?
[10:40] <Threetimes> Hi, Unison loses the connection when connecting to an ssh server.
[10:41] <kinja-sheep> !aptfix | malik__
[10:41] <pdg1> przemo_one, i think I'll have to mess with them, this is for sure a BIOS issue. I'll try the good ol', change-it-and-change-it-back style of troubleshooting
[10:42] <triplexxx> malik__: use apt-get its faster and watch youtube videos on linux software... use ubuntu forums and do searches for software.... unless u like that packmanger
[10:42] <triplexxx> ????
[10:42] <jackhorner> im trying to install ubuntu on a usb stick from a vmware vm image, ive tried to dd the whole disk on the stick, grub starts, it sees the partition, it seems to load the kernel but then when i ask grub to boot it hungs there... any clue??
[10:42] <rww> triplexxx: apt-get isn't significantly faster than Synaptic.
[10:43] <iceroot> rww: of course it is, because apt dont have to load a gui at startup
[10:43] <noladesi> yo
[10:43] <noladesi> hey how do i register a name
[10:43] <kinja-sheep> It is not faster. Just easier.
[10:43] <rww> ubottu: register | noladesi
[10:44] <malik__> kinja-sheep, ubottu: Thanks its fixed.
[10:44] <noladesi> i can type that right in here.
[10:44] <triplexxx> rww ouch
[10:45] <noladesi> yo
[10:45] <xukun> how can I upgrade to the stable nvidia 190.53 drivers?
[10:46] <noladesi> h
[10:46] <triplexxx> noladesi: got to this link you may have to watch this video 2 or 3 times ,but he explains it well
[10:46] <Threetimes> Hi, Unison loses the connection when connecting to an ssh server.
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> xukun: Your choices -- Obtain the package from the website. Compile/run it. or PPA. Maybe envy can do it too.
[10:47] <triplexxx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hmO42s-tc&feature=related
[10:47] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: Are you using Unison to sync with Windows?
[10:47] <Threetimes> Nope, ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
[10:48] <ardchoille> !ot | triplexxx
[10:48] <noladesi> I dont want my own chatroom
[10:48] <thedonut> hi, i just  installed ubuntu 9.10 for the 3rd time now, and its not properly booting ... would somebody like to help me?
[10:48] <t1n0m3n> !grub2
[10:48] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: Use rsync or if you need GUI, use grsync or gtkrsync. I used Unison few times long time and I recall it disconnecting occasionally.
[10:49] <Threetimes> thanks! I'll look into g(tk)rsync
[10:51] <Quadrescence> Hello. I've been trying to install a fake/"meta" package to make apt think it has texlive installed because I installed my own version, but it seems to think it
[10:51] <Quadrescence> is still not installed.
[10:52] <webdawg> ?
[10:53] <Quadrescence> I installed TeXLive from outside sources. Therefore, I want Ubuntu to think I installed from the repository.
[10:53] <webdawg> Why?
[10:53] <webdawg> ohhh
[10:53] <webdawg> wait
[10:53] <webdawg> I dont know how to do that but I see why.
[10:53] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: Use checkinstall when you compile.
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[10:54] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: It's a little more complicated than that.
[10:54] <Quadrescence> It doesn't use "make install".
[10:54] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: How do you install it?
[10:56] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: was this made in some programming class like c or c++ needing library dependiencies ...????
[10:56] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: First you download a script or whatever called TeXLive installer, and this installed a program called 'tlmgr', and in tlmgr, you install latex and all of the packages. It's sort of a repository of its own, which is why I presume Ubuntu hasn't upgraded from TeXLive 2007 to 2009
[10:56] <Quadrescence> The entire install is around 2GB of LaTeX packages + the base LaTeX install.
[10:57] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: you want a blacklisted program to run????
[10:58] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: ...blacklisted?
[10:58] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: It's not blacklisted. It's just a difficult thing to "officially" integrate into the Ubuntu repos. Fedora has the same problem.
[10:58] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: I'm thinking you want to find latex channel where they have more experiences with latex-related and OS.
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: And you're already there. Hmm,.
[10:59] <Diverdude> When in nautilus, what is the shortcut to focus on the address bar? The one that corresponds to ALT+D in windows?
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: CTRL + L
[10:59] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: This isn't a LaTeX problem, this is a repository problem.
[10:59] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: / (too)
[11:00] <skx> I have a problem with network-manager, it doesn't connect to openvpn servers: Jan 17 11:53:00 stranger NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_vpn_connection_connect_cb(): VPN connection 'innocence-len' failed to connect: 'No VPN secrets!'. connecting from command line ($ sudo openvpn VPN.conf) works just fine
[11:00] <skx> anybody?
[11:00] <Quadrescence> kinja-sheep: All I want to do is make Ubuntu think it has the LaTeX packages installed, so I can install other applications that depend on LaTeX without having to install 2007
[11:01] <rww> Quadrescence: You could use `equivs' to make a fake package, perhaps.
[11:01] <kinja-sheep> Quadrescence: I get it but I don't know the answer to that.
[11:01] <rww> Quadrescence: I'm not sure on the details, though.
[11:02] <Quadrescence> rww: Yes, that seemed like the best solution. And I was either doing it wrong (likely), or it didn't work. :<
[11:02] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: well I found your solution
[11:02] <triplexxx> be right back
[11:04] <triplexxx>  TeX4ht can handle the features of TeX-based systems
[11:04] <triplexxx> in general, and of LaTeX in particular.
[11:04] <triplexxx> TeX4ht can be used both for authoring HTML using TeX/LaTeX input files, or
[11:04] <triplexxx> for converting existing TeX input files (in any format) into HTML, with
[11:04] <triplexxx> (usually) only minor modifications.  Other varieties of hypertext can also be
[11:04] <triplexxx> produced, including XML, XHTML, MathML and the Openoffice.org format of XML.
[11:04] <FloodBot3> triplexxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <afshin> i wany=t install a program in kubuntu 9.10 64bit but want two program php-pcntl and php-gtk-pcntl i cant find them
[11:04] <triplexxx> tex4ht plugin version 2009
[11:04] <Gary> it might be an idea to use a pastebin triplexxx - http://www.pastebin.ca
[11:05] <triplexxx> Gary: oopppsss sorrrryyyyy
[11:06] <|ns|nR8> afshin, have you got restricted uncommented in sources.list ?
[11:06] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: this package says its supports the latest latex in texlive with a 2009 version...??? is this what your looking for???
[11:07] <Quadrescence> triplexxx: No.
[11:07] <afshin> yes
[11:08] <afshin> i added in source list but i get a error massage
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> what is the error
[11:09] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Are you doing this for VPN? http://tinyurl.com/yjvynle
[11:10] <afshin> yes kinja-sheep
[11:10] <paolopao> Hi. since some days I hear the volume of youtube videos at a very low level. If I play an audio file, the volume is ok. I already checked the volumes with alsamixer. what should I do?
[11:10] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Did you add the new line in the sources.list? http://quozl.us.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig/
[11:10] <afshin> yes
[11:10] <|ns|nR8> i can see the x86 version there, not 64
[11:10] <kinja-sheep> afshin: Pastebin the error you receive.
[11:12] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: what a minute went to website they got a tar.gz and a build from source what is the problem...?????
[11:12] <afshin> want two progtam  :  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:12] <afshin>   pptpconfig: Depends: php-pcntl (>= 4.3.7) but it is not installable
[11:12] <afshin>               Depends: php-gtk-pcntl (>= 1.0.0) but it is not installable
[11:12] <afshin> E: Broken packages
[11:12] <FloodBot3> afshin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <afshin> ok sorry
[11:13] <ardchoille> Are there any video rippers in the Karmic repos capable of outputting DivX files?
[11:13] <kinja-sheep> afshin: You can obtain the deb manually and install it.
[11:13] <kinja-sheep> afshin: It is in the link above. Look for files ending with .deb
[11:14] <afshin> i donload that but have same error
[11:14] <ajhavery> hello
[11:14] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: I dont believe this is going to work much faster with compression ratio's below bzip2 they should have posted results from this compression if it is faster
[11:14] <Like> hi the channel for testin in Lucid ?
[11:14] <kinja-sheep> Like: #ubuntu+1
[11:14] <ajhavery> which is best chat client for linux?
[11:14] <kinja-sheep> !best | ajhavery
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> ajhavery: XChat, irssi, weechat, gnome-chat, chatzilla, pidgin.
[11:15] <ajhavery> which one do u prefer?
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> ajhavery: If you're new to IRC, use xchat. It have GUI which makes things easy when it comes down to configuration.
[11:16] <triplexxx> ajhavery: I use irssi takes a bit of know how with the terminal but works like a champ... there all much similar don't like white back ground or black background
[11:17] <Like> wb!!!
[11:18] <ajhavery> thanx
[11:18] <ksbalaji> I have downloaded new firefox-3.5.7.tar.bz2 but do not know how to install it. what installer to use please? I tried Adept,Gnome appinstaller and synaptic without success...
[11:20] <jophish> I have noticed that in default settings, for example apt and grub. The filenames start with a number, like 05debiantheme, or 01proxy. Why is this?
[11:21] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: Use mozilla-daily-ppa
[11:22] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/
[11:22] <aluno> carlos
[11:22] <ksbalaji> kinja-sheep, thanks. Is it an application installer? I have ff 3.0.7 something installed now.
[11:23] <Threetimes> kinja-sheep: can rsync only sync in one direction?
[11:23] <kinja-sheep> ksbalaji: It works by adding ubuntu-mozilla-daily server to your array of repository servers. It'll show up in the database when you use apt-get, aptitude, or sypaetic(sp). Find firefox-3.7 and install it.
[11:23] <afshin> kinja-sheep i have a same error when i use deb pacage
[11:24] <Guest79684> quit
[11:25] <zoddan> i did something wrong with my ubuntu installation :P
[11:25] <Guest79684> disconnect
[11:25] <whiter> when i connect to a wireless network it gives me a notification about having a .local domain, how can i fix that?
[11:25] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: One location to another. There are many parameters you can use.
[11:25] <zoddan> running on a laptop with nvidia gfx and i activated the nvidia driver
[11:25] <zoddan> and now the GUI wont start
[11:25] <zoddan> how can i rollback to the other driver?
[11:25] <raven> what is the solution to synchronize a whole home-folder on two pcs - unison takes houres.....
[11:26] <Threetimes> kinja-sheep: what do I use to sync new files from both locations? What happens if a file is changed on both locations?
[11:27] <zoddan> anyone know how i can do that?
[11:27] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: If you need to sync small things, you can use DropBox or Ubuntu-One (both ups to 2GB). I'll try and find the best way to sync both folders, but usually I know you do this by pointing to folders.
[11:28] <kinja-sheep> !rsync | Threetimes
[11:28] <paolopao> how can I configure the volume for a specific application? (i.e: firefox)
[11:28] <zoddan> seems that ppl dont see what i type :P
[11:28] <Like> any one have an idea with x-fi work in lucid alpha 2 xtreme audio pci-e WITH ALSA :)
[11:28] <whiter> ah, i get the error "Your current network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi Network service discovery."
[11:29] <Threetimes> I don't want anything web-based. It's cool and fun, but not what i'm looking for...
[11:32] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: what were you using latex for trig, calculus math equations????
[11:32] <Quadrescence> I use latex for lots of things.
[11:33] <Quadrescence> Books and papers I'm writing.
[11:34] <triplexxx> Quadrescence: not your every day run of the mill program...  goodluck I can see why it might be hard to install.... ;)
[11:34] <Quadrescence> Haha.
[11:35] <brainbox> hey... i need help with getting broadcom network extreme working with ubuntu server
[11:35] <RS-232> I am trying to copy a directory into another one doing: mv dir1/ dir2/  , dir1 is not empty, but I want to copy it entiriely into dir2, ... I only get this error message:mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:35] <RS-232> ... any help?
[11:35] <brainbox> compiled a new kernel
[11:35] <brainbox> 2.6.32.3-custom #1 SMP Sun Jan 17 05:31:32 EST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linu
[11:35] <brainbox> what options do i need to have checked
[11:36] <frou3> A question about disk drives. Is it wise to clone an Ubuntu install from a normal hard drive on to an SSD then use the SSD? Or is there some SSD-specific setup performed when you do a clean install on to a SSD?
[11:36] <kinja-sheep> Threetimes: I think it is good idea if you use rsync and add it to cron (so it run every ____) and add parameters to perform the way you want it to. I don't know why you should open both and edit both at once.
[11:37] <RS-232> ... any help?
[11:37] <RS-232> I am trying to copy a directory into another one doing: mv dir1/ dir2/  , dir1 is not empty, but I want to copy it entiriely into dir2, ... I only get this error message:mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:38] <Quadrescence> RS-232: mv -R will MOVE the directory
[11:38] <brainbox> u need recursive flag
[11:38] <Quadrescence> use cp -R to COPY it
[11:38] <RS-232> Quadrescence: -R does not work for MV command
[11:38] <Quadrescence> RS-232: Yes it does
[11:38] <brainbox> it does...
[11:39] <brainbox> o_O
[11:39] <RS-232> WebTool:/var/www/sites/all/modules# mv -R cacheexclude 3rd\ party/
[11:39]  * brainbox blinks 
[11:39] <RS-232> mv: invalid option -- R
[11:39] <RS-232> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[11:39] <RS-232> ?
[11:39] <FloodBot3> RS-232: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <brainbox> should be -r
[11:39] <RS-232> mv: invalid option -- r
[11:39] <RS-232> -r does not work either
[11:39] <kinja-sheep> RS-232: If you don't want to lose the files, use cp instead of mv
[11:40] <RS-232> I can copy them, but I want to know how to move them (erasing the origin)
[11:40] <brainbox> ill try it in ubuntu...
[11:40] <brainbox> see if it works one sec
[11:40] <Quadrescence> RS-232: I was wrong, -R isn't an option. You probably want cp though, or mv -f
[11:40] <brainbox> it doest
[11:40] <brainbox> works in bsd though haha
[11:40] <RS-232> Quadrescence: so for directories only CP works? no MV?
[11:41] <Quadrescence> RS-232: Try mv -f
[11:41] <RS-232> mv: cannot move `cacheexclude' to `3rd party/cacheexclude': Directory not empty
[11:41] <RS-232> BTW this is Debian, ...but I think POSIX should be the same, right?
[11:42] <rww> RS-232: There's a Debian channel at #debian. You really should be using it instead.
[11:43] <jiohdi> RS-232: why can't you use something like Thunar to move it?
[11:43] <infidel> anyone here have ddo running on wine? i have it working fine but the game screen is inverted
[11:43] <RS-232> I entered here because I am in an UBuntu machine doing an SSH to a Debian one (the one where I am truying to MV the diurectory)
[11:44] <Ateu> hello
[11:44] <MorphyNOR> !hello | Ateu
[11:45] <brainbox> i have Broadcom NetXtremeII support  compiled in my kernel .... yet its not working
[11:45] <brainbox> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
[11:45] <SmileDay> [Q] What do I do install when no makefile?
[11:45] <brainbox> try ./config
[11:45] <brainbox> or ./configure
[11:46] <brainbox> anyone have experience with that ethernet device?
[11:46] <brainbox> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
[11:46] <brainbox> its compiled in my kernel...
[11:46] <brainbox> doesnt wana work though
[11:47] <hipitihop> I have a laptop which takes ages to boot to login screen and then ages once user id is picked and the password box appears.. this occurs since it has been upgraded from jaunt to karmic, how do I debug this ?
[11:47] <SmileDay> brainbox, Has already.
[11:48] <berserk_ren> mhm... hipitihop maybe it's happening because of videocard? with radeons  it's happens sometimes
[11:48] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Backup and clean install?
[11:48] <SmileDay> [Q] What do I do install when no makefile?
[11:48] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, seems drastic and non linux way
[11:48] <justin_> hi, How to add GL support, install mesa or something?
[11:49] <soreau> SmileDay: If you ran ./configure or ./autogen.sh and it doesnt generate a makefile, it likely failed in some way. Look at the configure output
[11:49] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: It was how I solved my issues from upgrading. Seems the karmuic upgrade package has a bunch of bugs.
[11:49] <soreau> justin_: Which card model?
[11:49] <x[x]> hey i did i apt-get distro upgrade thing in terminal .. it does it all ..it asks to reboot now as far as i can tell grub is missing it goes directly to memtest .. ( im running ubuntu karmic ) do i need the ubuntu cd and try fix it from there?
[11:49] <justin_> soreau: using ATI
[11:49] <soreau> justin_: Which model though?
[11:49] <justin_> soreau: FirePro V 3750
[11:50] <soreau> justin_: Is that what lspci|grep VGA says?
[11:50] <jiohdi> x[x]: if ou updated to karmic it uses grub2
[11:50] <hipitihop> berserk_ren, it has nvidia and curretnyl using the 185.18.36 driver
[11:50] <soreau> jiohdi: You mean grub1
[11:50] <berserk_ren> it's sad that compiz is not working on radeon 9200 SE in ubuntu 9.10 T_T black desktop and no good drivers :(
[11:50] <x[x]> yeah
[11:50] <jiohdi> soreau, not on karmic, its grub2
[11:50] <brainbox> module is there for my card
[11:50] <x[x]> so ..
[11:50] <brainbox> bnx2                   65982  0
[11:50] <x[x]> do i boot off the linux Live cd?
[11:50] <claudio_> hi
[11:50] <brainbox> how do i tell if the firmware is loaded?
[11:51] <justin_> soreau: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700]
[11:51] <soreau> jiohdi: If you upgrade from 9.04, it does not install grub2
[11:51] <justin_> soreau: but i think the driver now is ok
[11:51] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, when you say backup, I assume home directory but whatabout all installed apps etc
[11:51] <jiohdi> soreau, I remember seeing the option for it
[11:51] <soreau> justin_: Ok check sys>admin>hardware drivers
[11:51] <x[x]> soreau i didnt upgrade.. i downloaded karmic and installed it on a new partition
[11:51] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Yup. and any conf files ya wanna keep....All dat.
[11:51] <Aled> Guys you know on the ubuntu cd yo
[11:52] <Aled> u can install ubuntu from inside windows?
[11:52] <soreau> berserk_ren: compiz does work with 9200 but that black background issue is a mesa bug
[11:52] <justin_> soreau: Well, I'm not using ubuntu actually
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.813146] bnx2 0000:08:00.0: firmware: requesting bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-5.0.0.j3.fw
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.814328] bnx2 0000:08:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[11:52] <brainbox> Jan 17 06:27:46 osirus kernel: [    5.814337] bnx2: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -2
[11:52] <brainbox> wtf does that mean
[11:52] <BlouBlou> !paste | brainbox
[11:52] <soreau> x[x]: Then you have grub2
[11:52] <justin_> soreau: I cann't find OpenGL information in the info. center
[11:52] <x[x]> ok when i said grub was missing i didnt know grub2 was the latest
[11:52] <x[x]> sorry for the mistake
[11:52] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, but that means you gotta know what to look for... getting a system back to the way it was before can be a lot of work
[11:53] <brainbox>  bnx2: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -2 anyone know what this is caused by ?
[11:53] <soreau> justin_: Then why are you here? You should ask in your distros support channel
[11:53] <jiohdi> x[x]: grub2 does not say anything like grub one, just goes straight to open
[11:53] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I'm well aware of that. DIdnt say twas easy, I offered it as an option.
[11:53] <justin_> soreau: there's no one in debian channel
[11:53] <x[x]> ok
[11:53] <x[x]> now im confused jibel
[11:53] <x[x]> err
[11:53] <x[x]> jiohdi
[11:53] <FloodBot3> x[x]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <justin_> and I think the answer to ubuntu can be applied to debian at all
[11:54] <soreau> justin_: Well with that card you will either need to install fglrx or upgrade your kernel to at least 2.6.32 and use the open radeon driver
[11:54] <justin_> soreau: What do I need for openGL, mesa or something ?
[11:54] <jiohdi> x[x]: I wanted to dual boot by placing an entry into menu.lst, found that no such file exists in grub2, its all different
[11:54] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, understand, and your option is appreciated :-) I was just hoping there may be something to reconfigure which might be less work :-)
[11:54] <x[x]> jiohdi thats not my error though
[11:54] <justin_> soreau:  I have already make through the driver
[11:55] <x[x]> my error is when i did distro upgrade in terminal and rebooted ... the grubloader when missing .. it just boots straight into memtest
[11:55] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I coudnt tell you. It seems everyone who uses the upgrade option runs into a different problem.
[11:55] <x[x]> im wondering should i just boot off the LIVE CD and see what happens from there
[11:55] <jiohdi> x[x]: from memtest, where can you go?
[11:55] <justin_> soreau: And I have ever set it up using official dirver give by amd
[11:55] <justin_> given
[11:55] <x[x]> from memtest it does a memtest
[11:55] <soreau> justin_: To use the open driver you will need at least 2.6.32 kernel, and latest libdrm, mesa and xf86-video-ati
[11:55] <x[x]> which is CURRENTLY doing
[11:55] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, is there a way to see the boot process to see perhaps at what stage it pauses and waits to maybe get a hint at the problem ?
[11:56] <soreau> justin_: also to use the open driver, you cannot have fglrx installed in any way (fglrx is the proprietary driver from amd)
[11:56] <justin_> soreau: Well, what I really wann't to know is what pakage I need to support OpenGL runtime
[11:56] <jiohdi> x[x]: when it ends it just dumps you out to a terminal?
[11:56] <x[x]> i dont know
[11:56] <soreau> justin_: Pastebin your X log
[11:56] <x[x]> it hasnt ended yet
[11:56] <x[x]> its doing it at the moment
[11:56] <jiohdi> ah
[11:56] <norbi905> Hello.  Try #2 and still trying to get sound working.  Fresh install of 9.10 x64 and Audigy 2 zs.  lspci does now show anything in regards to a driver being installed.  I was under the impression that it came preloaded within the kernel.  Under System->Preferences->Sound-> Hardware tab I am not shown anything.  I remember using Ubuntu a while ago on this same computer and the sound card worked.  Then there was an
[11:56] <norbi905> update that killed it.  I since switched back to windows, and now I wanted to give it another try and it's still not working.  Any help is appreciated.
[11:56] <x[x]> jiohdi ..when it ends ill come back here
[11:56] <x[x]> brb
[11:56] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: syslog after boot, I guess.....Its timestamped, so you shoud be able to see where its gagging.
[11:56] <Aled> How could I make a partition in xubuntu?
[11:56] <what> norbi905: i found a lot of times with the creative audigy 2's that its muted
[11:57] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: BTW, I's'a newb.
[11:57] <chilipepper> movie time
[11:57] <valajbeg> hello, how can i kill/remove uninterruptible process???
[11:57] <justin_> soreau: To be frank, I don't think you are listining to my question...
[11:57] <what> open a terminal and run alsamixer, and check out the toggles far right
[11:57] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, and that includes the x startup as it goes into user login screen ?
[11:57] <what> think its the digital/something one sorry cant shell in at home atm
[11:57] <soreau> justin_: I am listening. Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:57] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I dont remember, I was using it to troubleshoot a lanboot setup.
[11:57] <norbi905> what:  and how can I find this out? Sorry :(
[11:57] <soreau> justin_: The problem is, its not as simple as you might think to get working
[11:57] <zoddan> my GUI wont start after i activated the nvidia driver, How can i go back so the GUI starts?
[11:58] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I never actuallyy read what was recorded for my system booting,.
[11:58] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, ok will go hunt about, thanks for your assist.
[11:58] <brainbox> whats sound system do i use when compiling my kernel for SB live?
[11:58] <norbi905> when typing alsamixer in a terminal it gives me this -> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:58] <trio> Россияне здесь есть ?
[11:58] <Daugha|n> Ummm........
[11:58] <valajbeg> how can i kill/remove uninterruptible process???
[11:58] <what> o thats good... not..
[11:59] <what> valajbeg: try a kill -9 pid
[11:59] <justin_> soreau: I have almost get it work... But using mesa-swx11 make my machine slow
[11:59] <valajbeg> what, it doesn't work
[11:59] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: /var/log/syslog
[11:59] <valajbeg> what, it's uninterruptible process
[11:59] <oCean__> valajbeg: you can not. That's wat uninterruptible means
[11:59] <what> i get that, jsut sometimes you get lucky
[11:59] <soreau> justin_: Alright you know what? If you dont want to pastebin anything go back to #debian and get help there
[12:00] <valajbeg> oCean__ how to free memory alocated
[12:00] <brainbox> do i compile oss or alsa?
[12:00] <what> valajbeg: maybe you can kill its root process
[12:00] <justin_> soreau: ok, a minute
[12:00] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, looking now...
[12:00] <oCean__> valajbeg: I'm afraid only a reboot will solve that
[12:00] <valajbeg> oCean__, thank you
[12:01] <valajbeg> what, interestingly
[12:01] <what> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7783967&postcount=7 there it is norbi905
[12:01] <what> valajbeg: yes?
[12:01] <valajbeg> it disapeared
[12:01] <what> o:
[12:01] <valajbeg> :D
[12:01] <christophetd> ero
[12:02] <what> that happens too, if you watch a bunch die at once you may see an alarming # of <defunct> processes as well
[12:02] <justin_> soreau: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3834c4df
[12:02] <what> should have seen me freak out the first time i saw 50 of those
[12:03] <trio> удалил самбу через Synaptic вместе с ним удалились типы сервиса во вкладке соединение с сервером
[12:03] <trio> Как востановить типы сервиса во вкладке соединение с сервером?
[12:03] <trio> removed samba through Synaptic with him exiting types of service in the tab connection to the server
[12:03] <trio> How to restore service types in the tab connection to the server?
[12:03] <quibbler> !ru | trio
[12:03] <papul> hi guys
[12:06] <sdgf> hey
[12:06] <sdgf> i wanno know
[12:06] <sdgf> this sounds weird
[12:06] <sdgf> but i wanno know
[12:06] <sdgf> is there a way to chek ntfs from linux
[12:06] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, seems unusually large 95Mb and nearly all of the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/358007/
[12:07] <soreau> justin_: AFAICT, your X.org server is too old to use that version of fglrx
[12:07] <coz_> sdgf,  check as in access... ?
[12:07] <jiohdi> sdgf, ntfs can be mounted by a linux distro, though its support is not perfect as ntfs is not free
[12:07] <norbi905> what:  That did not help me unfortunately.  Thanks for your help though.  I had to download gnome-alsamixer, but it keeps crashing on me once i hit ->Edit->Soundcard properties
[12:07] <sdgf> cuz
[12:07] <sdgf> command
[12:07] <justin_> soreau: but I cann't find the right driver when using 1.7.4
[12:07] <sdgf> or package
[12:08] <sdgf> i believe scandisk sucks
[12:08] <KamaL> Hello there. I have a windows 2003 server, and willing to install ubuntu desktop on a second partition. since i have very little experience with it, i thought to install it though the Windows installer, and then reboot to ubuntu, and connect though remote desktop
[12:08] <KamaL> is that possible?
[12:08] <soreau> justin_: For fglrx, my guess is that 1.7.4 is too new
[12:08] <coz_> sdgf,  first its a good idea to use the nick of the person you are speaking with...type the first 3 letter of their nick and hit tab to complete..also its a good idea to  post your message in a single line instead of two or three line entries
[12:09] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Wow.....
[12:09] <soreau> justin_: You need a happy medium like 1.6.x
[12:09] <justin_> soreau: u r right
[12:09] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, any idea what it is complaining about, looks usb related
[12:09] <justin_> soreau: but I don't know how to install a specific version
[12:09] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: If you're talking about Wubi, it is another way of dual-boot by placing the files on C:\ partition instead of partitioning the HDD to make a new partition.
[12:09] <x[x]> jiohdi
[12:10] <jiohdi> KamaL: in my experience... the wubi.exe worked fine to install ubuntu but it did it in a way that made it crash when updates came later.
[12:10] <x[x]> im gonna fix Grub via the live CD
[12:10] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, is syslog cleared each boot ?
[12:10] <x[x]> cheers dude
[12:10] <jiohdi> x[x]: cheers
[12:10] <soreau> justin_: Alternatively you can scrap fglrx and run all very latest components (namely your kernel, libdrm, mesa, xf86-video-ati and X) to get 3D working
[12:10] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No, more than just usb...Its also having sensor errors...Almost looks like it hasnt completely shutdown........
[12:11] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I dunno.....Like I said, I was using it for something entirely different.
[12:11] <KamaL> kinja-sheep and jiohdi: well, since I don't have remote access like KVM right now, I can't do it the traditional way. So I though I'd do it through the windows installer, but the questions is: will i be able to connect through remote desktop????
[12:11] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Gimme a bit more to look through the whole thing.
[12:11] <soreau> justin_: and yet another alternative is to actually use a ubuntu distro so you arent stuck in debians no mans land
[12:12] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, I have you from line one and afaict it is the same all the way through
[12:12] <justin_> soreau: I hope I hadn't upgrade xorg...
[12:12] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, should I delete the log and reboot and see what we get ?
[12:13] <soreau> justin_: According to that X log you posted, you are still using 1.4.2
[12:13] <justin_> I see that 2
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: I suppose you can. You'll be running Ubuntu natively on non-linux filesystem. Remote Desktop is meh-meh. Use ssh. It makes things nice.
[12:13] <justin_> So is there a way to install, say , 1.7.3
[12:13] <justin_> soreau: that used to work for me
[12:13] <KamaL> i have no idea how to use ssh :/ I need an easy to use GUI
[12:14] <Ray304> .
[12:14] <Ray304> hi
[12:14] <tjibbaNL> i cant update or install anyting, getting this error http://files.uploadffs.com/c/6/3a16664a/Screenshot.png
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: Props to you for using Server 2K3. It's better than Vista. I used to use Server 2K3 (Converted to Workstation).
[12:14] <soreau> justin_: If you want to use fglrx I would try 1.6.x but however to install a specific version of X is beyond the scope of this channel especially because it justworks on ubuntu and you are using debian
[12:14] <DeLiK> How can i make my camera and microphone work on ubuntu 9.10 (i'm in a Compaq MINI 110, and the camera and microphone are inlayed in the screen
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: And XP too (except games). If you're new, that's fine. Remote desktop it is. :)
[12:14] <hipitihop> kamal, so use menut "Places...connect to server" and then hose SSH
[12:14] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: WHat is this a laptop?
[12:15] <coz_> DeLiK,  is this laptop?
[12:15] <Ubee> Question: Does netflix streaming work on Ubuntu?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: What is it that you're trying to accomplish?
[12:15] <DeLiK> yes
[12:15] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, Aces Aspire 5630
[12:15] <Ray304> Does freenode accept gmail for registration?
[12:15] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, grr ... Acer
[12:15] <DeLiK> Qompaq mini 110
[12:15] <soreau> justin_: But if you have up/downgraded X and that brike it, try simply reinstalling fglrx if you havent tried that already
[12:15] <Daugha|n> That a laptop?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> Ray304: #freenode
[12:15] <coz_> DeLiK, well for the mike  you might want to go to #also channel for.... for the cam  well  ..did you test it with an application like   camorama?
[12:15] <KamaL> I don't have physical access to the server. I wanna be able to install ubuntu desktop and connect through remote remote desktop WITHOUT the need of physicall access
[12:15] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Is that a laptop?
[12:16] <justin_> soreau: well, thx anyway, I'll try to upgrade all stuffs to the highest version
[12:16] <justin_> soreau: Hope that works
[12:16] <DeLiK> no, i'll do it.
[12:16] <beyecixramd> KamaL: SSH?
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> KamaL: I see. I am not sure if Remote Desktop is enabled by default.
[12:16] <Ray304> i couldn't talk in #freenode
[12:16] <Ray304> i was asked to register but couldn't
[12:16] <beyecixramd> kinja-sheep: it's not
[12:16] <Ubee> Question Again: Does Netflix Online Movie Streaming work on Ubuntu?
[12:16] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, to be precise, Acer-Aspire 5634WLMi
[12:16] <soreau> justin_: Im telling if you do, you need to ditch fglrx and go for the open driver. More help for the open driver than any other and in #radeon
[12:17] <KamaL> kinja-sheep: I see. I'll install it and ask the guys in the DC to enable remote desktop
[12:17] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, I dont have all computer models memorized, I just need to know if it is a laptop or not.
[12:17] <soreau> justin_: fglrx simply will not work with latest components X and kernel
[12:17] <beyecixramd> KamaL: you could make a remix of it, maybe?
[12:17] <beyecixramd> a remix of the Ubuntu CD with remote desktop enabled by default
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: I don't know. All I know is that Netflix uses MS-Silverlight with silly DRM features. If you have the account, you can try.
[12:17] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, a laptop, dual core T5600 and has NVidia GeForce Go 7300
[12:18] <DeLiK> coz_: camorama says "could not connect to viedo device (/dev/video0) PLease check connection
[12:18] <justin_> soreau: then what kind of open driver will fit?
[12:18] <coz_> DeLiK,  ok  let me see if there is a link to supported cameras  hold on
[12:18] <soreau> justin_: radeon. You want to use radeon
[12:18] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I'm just trying to figure out what usb devices are native hardware. =)
[12:19] <coz_> DeLiK,   check here    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:19] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Do you have any external usb devices plugged in?
[12:19] <justin_> soreau: not familiar with that
[12:19] <Ubee> Question: Does Blockbuster's Online Moviestream work on Ubuntu?
[12:19] <jiohdi> Ubee: netflix sight says XP and mac OSX only
[12:20] <jiohdi> site*
[12:20] <gajo_p> hey, any way to get Times New Roman installed? i don't seem to have it
[12:21] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, it has 4 x usb ports, two on side two on back and yes have things plugged in but only significant one is a bluetooth dongle driving wireless keyboard & mouse
[12:21] <soreau> justin_: It is simple. Completely remove fglrx from the system. Upgrade to all latest components of kernel (at least 2.6.32), libdrm, mesa, xf86-video-ati and X then move or delete xorg.conf and it will automatically pick the radeon driver
[12:21] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=531
[12:22] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, others 2 have 1 x bluetooth headset charger cable but nothing plugged into cable and the other is powering fan on laptop pad
[12:22] <justin_> soreau:  is my diver radeon based?  ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700] ATI Technologies Inc RV730 [FirePro V5700]
[12:22] <kinja-sheep> Ubee: Maybe. Maybe not because there are no native Silverlight, I think. There are clones (probably with missing API for DRM stuffs).
[12:22] <justin_> my card
[12:22] <soreau> justin_: Yea, it is an rv730
[12:23] <soreau> justin_: The radeon driver will work with it with latest components that I mentioned
[12:23] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Ok, unplug al the external usb devices for now, then try a reboot and see what happens. =) I;m half expecting the cooler to be the issue.
[12:23] <soreau> justin_: Much easier to get working than fglrx and much more support for the radeon driver
[12:23] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, interestinng ok, standby
[12:23] <DeLiK> coz_: how do i find out the make of my camera lol (all i can see is the lens pointing me lol)
[12:23] <justin_> soreau: Ok, thx a lot, I'll try that
[12:24] <pokoko222> hello
[12:24] <Ubee> I want to watch streamed movies online where should I go that has a large selection .
[12:24] <justin_> soreau: Another question, after installing  2.6.32, I found it cann't boot successfully, do u know why?
[12:24] <coz_> DeLiK,  in all honesty I rarely deal with webcam issues  be let me check
[12:24] <Ray304> were anyone in here able to register with Gmail?
[12:25] <soreau> justin_: What happens when you try to boot it?
[12:25] <coz_> DeLiK,    look here    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[12:25] <pokoko222> [INFO]	This channel requires that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it). Why do i get that message when i try to log in #haskell?
[12:25] <rww> pokoko222: because you're not registered and/or identified
[12:25] <rww> ubottu: register | pokoko222
[12:25] <Ray304> I'm having the same problem as pokoko222
[12:26] <justin_> soreau:  halts for a long time, then kernel panic or something
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: but can boot up manully
[12:26] <soreau> justin_: manually?
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: ps, I'm using gurb
[12:26] <justin_> soreau: ps, I'm using grub
[12:27] <hellyeah> jry
[12:27] <hellyeah> hey
[12:28] <hellyeah> how can i look what the partition is ntf fat ext
[12:28] <hellyeah> 3
[12:28] <hellyeah> whatis command
[12:28] <lolla> if i am using ubuntu distro and instal it in vbox  and i cannot see my fat32 partion and ntfs partion what should i do to see it ? by the way my host system is windows xp
[12:29] <soreau> hellyeah: Try fsck
[12:29] <Ubee> jjjjjSdASD
[12:29] <hellyeah> is there fsck.ntfs ?
[12:30] <soreau> I doubt it
[12:30] <hellyeah> anyone use ntfsfix ?
[12:30] <pokoko222> rww once i register how to hide my ip
[12:30] <Ubee> Is there any service that provides online videostreaming for Ubuntu similar to Netflix?
[12:31] <rww> pokoko222: /join #freenode and ask them about getting a cloak
[12:31] <hellyeah> hey
[12:31] <hellyeah> is there anyone who uses ntfsfix to check ntfs from linux
[12:31] <hellyeah> ?
[12:32] <ziroday> Ubee: hulu?
[12:32] <coz_> Ubee,   yeah I was going to suggest hulu as well but of course you are limited to what they have online
[12:32] <coz_> Ubee,   mm let me check something
[12:32] <jiohdi> Ubee, moviefather.com but I suspect a lot of its content is illegal
[12:33] <hellyeah> pls answer
[12:34] <berserk_ren> hellyeah, nope, i just mount ntfs drive and it's works just perfect =]
[12:34] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, nothing plugged in to any usb port but startup still slow..after I deleted syslog and did second boot I now see normal log but it also still drops into cycling with the previous usb related error
[12:34] <coz_> Ubee, there is a think called  "User Agent Switch" for firefox plugins that could fool netflix into t hinking it is running on windows  but I am not sure
[12:35] <Daugha|n> You have it booted and running?
[12:35] <jiohdi> Ubee: you can run firefox from wine and many sites think it is from XP
[12:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Is it running?
[12:35] <berserk_ren> but better is to make drive in ext3-ext4 and specify mount point like /downloads / files /***** so i do not have to mount the drive =}
[12:35] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, and it seems the log keeps growing, already at .5mb
[12:35] <hellyeah> berserk_ren,  i just check ntfs fom linux
[12:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, so, it wont finish booting?
[12:35] <hellyeah> berserk_ren,  nfs paritition is mounted
[12:36] <berserk_ren> and it should work =]
[12:36] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, it eventually shows the x login screen with list of users
[12:36] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: OK, wait till then, and login. See if the webcam and touchpad work.
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> Ubuntu is saying that I can only perform a partial upgrade - this is causing the 'Updates are available' icon to be on my system tray permanently.
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> Anybody help?
[12:37] <SealedWithAKiss> When I click partial upgrade, I get the error message 'Could not calculate the upgrade'.
[12:38] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: what does 'sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' say about it?
[12:38] <coz_> Ubee,  you may also want to read this    http://developer.netflix.com/forum/read/49086
[12:38] <coz_> Ubee,  you might also want to keep an eye on Moonlight
[12:39] <oni-chan> hi@all, sombody know how i get the versions of my gcc headers sychron?
[12:39] <coz_> Ubee,  the linux  Silverlite thingy
[12:39] <coz_> or silverlight
[12:39] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I get a 404 because the IP address couldn't be resolved.
[12:39] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, touch pad works, about to test webcam, although the laptop user claims the webcam never worked since th eupgrade
[12:39] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: which server are you using?
[12:40] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I'm a complete novice. So you're going to have to break things down a little more for me, if you could.
[12:40] <SealedWithAKiss> boss_mc, I could PM your the output of the command you told me to perform.
[12:40] <x[x]> jiohdi
[12:40] <x[x]> im stuck :(
[12:40] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: That may be the prob right there. Firmware or driver issues.
[12:40] <taofd> anyone here experienced w/ svn or specifically, mirroring repositories?
[12:40] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: go ahead
[12:41] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, nd skype certainly claims not to see any webcam device. so what next
[12:41] <Daugha|n> Skype isnt reliable......try hwdata
[12:42] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, lsusb seems to lsit it
[12:42] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, lsusb output "Bus 001 Device 082: ID 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc. OrbiCam"
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: look at your address'. Thats your problem addy. I guess try finding firmware and.or drivers foir it.
[12:43] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, installing hwdata, standby
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop:  DOnt need it.
[12:43] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, it used to work in previous versions until Karmic
[12:43] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Look at the addy lsusb gave you.
[12:44] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Device ID 046d:0896
[12:44] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Thats the bus ID that is causing the cycling.
[12:45] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I *did* mention tat karmic ugrade package has seri9ous issues, did I not?? =)
[12:46] <sllide> is there a video editor with effects like explosions and green screen for linux?
[12:46] <sllide> something simmilar to after effects
[12:46] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, indeed you did
[12:46] <nastas> hi all
[12:46] <Vibhor> nastas:hi
[12:47] <DeLiK> coz_: luvcview made it work
[12:47] <DeLiK> eheh
[12:47] <gorthaug> hi, i've a problem, when amule it's openned more than one day... Xorg use all the CPU, if i close amule Xorg stop using all the CPU...
[12:47] <DeLiK> and now what
[12:47] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Ok, now ya know where the isue is, and, its prolly a driver issue, though fimrware is always a possibility as well.
[12:47] <DeLiK> :)
[12:47] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, although I thought when it came to webcams, then support was kernal based for some time
[12:47] <DeLiK> the camera
[12:47] <coz_> DeLiK,  very cool :)
[12:47] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: I have ni clue. I did mention I am a newb, right?=)
[12:48] <jiohdi> anyone know how to put a graphic system monitor on the panel in Ubuntu Netbook remix?
[12:48] <chipgeri> unsafe permissions on configuration file `/home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf'  how do i solve this?
[12:48] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, ok, something to hunt down, and from one newb to another, thanks
[12:49] <llutz> chipgeri: chmod 600 .ssh/*
[12:49] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No worries,and good luck.
[12:49] <soreau> jiohdi: Many lower end graphics hardware dont have monitoring hardware built in. Not sure if this is the case for your chipset
[12:49] <llutz> chipgeri: chmod 600 .gnupg/*   sorry
[12:49] <DeLiK> coz_: how can i use this information to make it work in other programs? SDL information:
[12:49] <DeLiK>   Video driver: x11
[12:49] <DeLiK>   A window manager is available
[12:49] <DeLiK> Device information:
[12:49] <DeLiK>   Device path:  /dev/video0
[12:49] <FloodBot3> DeLiK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <DeLiK> Stream settings:
[12:49] <beyecixramd> DeLiK: no spam...
[12:49] <jiohdi> soreau: I have nvidia
[12:50] <DeLiK> sory my bad...
[12:50] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Let me know if I can help ya with anything else.
[12:50] <jiohdi> soreau: its not a problem of hardware, there does not seem to be a way to add things to the panel on UNR
[12:50] <coz_> DeLiK,  that would be a question for someone else  I have little experience with these issues   ,,,, but I am sure someone here...at some point will have more informations
[12:51] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, thanks, I'm just doing some googling at the moment.
[12:53] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, currently looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218
[12:53] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, although Is ee it is 2006 thread, so probably doesn;t apply
[12:55] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: this ginna take a while, but I'll check it out. Give nme time, and I'll get back to you. -=)
[12:56] <chipgeri> llutz: same warning.."unsafe permissions on configuration file `/home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf'"
[12:57] <ardchoille> chipgeri: my permission for that file are:  -rw-------
[12:57] <llutz> chipgeri: ls -l home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[12:57] <llutz> chipgeri: are you owner of that file?
[12:59] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, I mounted usbfs to get more details and if you see last device it says drive is none. ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/358028/
[13:00] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Keep this in mind...My sys is so busy right now, it takes me a full inute ti switch screens from here to browser, and another minute to switch back. Thats why I am so slow right now. =)
[13:00] <chipgeri> llutz: ardchoille:   -rw------- 1 ganesh ganesh 9364 2009-11-21 23:22 /home/ganesh/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[13:00] <ardchoille> chipgeri: That's what it should be
[13:01] <chipgeri> ardchoille: i tried this  "gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371 --recv-key 881574DE && gpg -a --export 881574DE | sudo apt-key add -"
[13:02] <gatty> Daugha|n: lsmod | grep vc032x
[13:02] <JakobSteinn> Hi everyone! When I open my gnome-terminal the 'box' is empty, what can I do?  It does not output the "user@host" stuff in the beginning.
[13:03] <soreau> JakobSteinn: What about sometime later, after this beginning?
[13:03] <ardchoille> chipgeri: That doesn't look right for some reason
[13:04] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: No driver. There ya go. Diag done. =)
[13:04] <chipgeri> ardchoille: i did not get you
[13:04] <osirisx11> my workspace applet is ignoring changes in preferences to increase the number of workspaces, ideas?
[13:04] <fredensborg> Is this a different #Ubuntu channel from the one on Freenode?
[13:04] <jrib> fredensborg: no
[13:04]  * Daugha|n thought we were on freenode.
[13:04] <soreau> osirisx11: Are you running compiz?
[13:05] <soreau> fredensborg: This is freenode
[13:05] <jrib> Daugha|n: some people connect to irc.ubuntu.com so it's not clear it's freenode :)
[13:05] <ardchoille> chipgeri: I';ve never seen it done that way, I've always seen: sudo apt-key adv
[13:05] <JakobSteinn> soreau, Hi thanks for reply, The whole box is empty.
[13:05] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes, but either I need to find the correct driver ort I somehow have to disbale this device as it is clearly causing a problem, not to mention chewing megs of log space
[13:05] <Daugha|n> jrib: Thats what MOTD is for. =)
[13:05] <ardchoille> chipgeri: man apt-key
[13:05] <gatty> hipitihop: you need the gspca_vc032x driver
[13:05] <fredensborg> OK, I thought irc.ubutnu.com was a separate network, but obviously it isn't
[13:06] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Do you happen to have desktop effects enabled in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects? ie. anything other than None
[13:06] <Daugha|n> jrib: I use ubuntu.com to connect, I just read.
[13:06] <ouyes> hi
[13:06] <Like> help
[13:06] <Like> hi ouyes
[13:06] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Yes.
[13:06] <Like> i need help please oll the channel know me pls help :'(
[13:06] <ardchoille> jrib: doesn't irc.ubuntu.com simply point to freenode's #ubuntu ?
[13:07] <ouyes> how to uninstall a .run ati official driver?
[13:07] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: gatty may be able to help ya.
[13:07] <soreau> JakobSteinn: If you set it to None, does it make a difference?
[13:07] <jrib> ardchoille: yeah
[13:07] <jrib> !ati > ouyes
[13:07] <Like> is my sond x-fi xtreme audio pci-eeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:07] <ouyes> Like,  what is your problem
[13:07] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, gatty ?
[13:07] <Like> no sound in ubuntu
[13:07]  * gatty waves at hipitihop
[13:07] <ouyes> jrib,  thank you
[13:07] <Like> i dont hear that in 2.1 :)
[13:07] <JakobSteinn> soreau: No not at all. :(
[13:07] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Scroll back.
[13:08] <Like> @lart @ all
[13:08] <hipitihop> gatty, aah so how do I activate that driver ?
[13:08] <ouyes> Like, can you see the icon of the sound
[13:08] <gatty> hipitihop: I'm just trying to find out which kernel versions it was included in, it seems pretty new.
[13:08] <Like> hey think about a fressssss install off ubuntu
[13:08] <Like> nothing with oSS
[13:09] <soreau> JakobSteinn: So its not a compositing or graphics issue.. something is wrong with your terminal
[13:09] <Like> And need too heard some
[13:09] <hipitihop> gatty how do I list my version ?
[13:09] <gatty> hipitihop: uname -a
[13:09] <Like> can be in lucid alpha 2 ?
[13:09] <Like> ouyes
[13:09] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: gatty asked if you needed that driver.
[13:09] <Like> :))
[13:09] <Daugha|n> OK.... =)
[13:09] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Well I installed the wm 'awsome' and then when I opened a terminal, tried both xterm and gnome-terminal it was just blank.. so I went back to gnome and uninstalled.. but nothing got better, sadly.
[13:09] <ouyes> somebody do help Like, by the way, find out your chip type of your sound
[13:10] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, yes thanks, I'm up to speed now thanks.
[13:10] <justin_> soreau: is soreau still here?
[13:10] <Daugha|n> Cool, good luck, hipitihop
[13:10] <hipitihop> gatty, "2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:01:44 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[13:10] <Like> CA0110-IBG
[13:10] <ouyes> Like, i have never had an issue like you
[13:10] <gatty> hipitihop: seems to be from 2.6.27 onwards in mainline from what I can tell, so you should have it
[13:11] <soreau> justin_: Hi
[13:11] <gatty> hipitihop: see if 'dmesg |grep -i vc032x' shows anything enlightening
[13:11] <ouyes> Like,  first go to system>admin>hardware driver> to see if there is a proper driver for your sound card
[13:11] <Like> yea h is
[13:11] <soreau> JakobSteinn: I dont know what is going on there.. maybe you can check your terminal profile?
[13:12] <hipitihop> gatty, [ 2455.286895] vc032x: Unknown sensor...
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.286930] vc032x: probe of 1-4:1.0 failed with error -22
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.758552] vc032x: check sensor header 2c
[13:12] <hipitihop> [ 2455.784439] vc032x: I2c Bus Busy Wait 2c
[13:12] <FloodBot3> hipitihop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Maybe the text color is the same as the background
[13:12] <justin_> soreau: Hi, do I have to download xf86-video and compile it myself?
[13:12] <soreau> justin_: Not if you can find packages for your distro..
[13:12] <gatty> hipitihop: ah... so it doesn't know what the camera chip in your webcam is, but it does know it's there.
[13:13] <vargadanis> hi... I have installed apache2 and it worked fine.. I rebooted the computer and now when i enter localhost into the browser i get and error that it could not connect to server
[13:13] <vargadanis> i can ping localhost and the interfaces should be ok, as well i have started apache and i can see the apache pid
[13:13] <vargadanis> any tips why that could be?
[13:13] <ardchoille> vargadanis: there was a fix for that,lemme find it..
[13:13] <ardchoille> !lamp
[13:14] <ouyes> jrib,  there is something on  the site you gave me,but it did not solve my problem, i just want to uninstall an official ati driver
[13:14] <gatty> hipitihop: all I can suggest is you grab the latest video4linux tree from their mercurial repo and try that - still no guarantee it'll work though.
[13:14] <soreau> justin_: Of course debian calls it something different than upstream like xorg-video-driver-ati or something.. but you need a very recent version and also your kernel, libdrm, mesa and X  are equally as important
[13:14] <justin_> soreau: I'm afraid it's not in my sourcelist..
[13:14] <gatty> hipitihop: if you want help with that just shout.
[13:14] <jrib> ouyes: you have to read the documentation provided by ati then.  Usually there are some switches you can pass to the .run.  Try passing --help as well to see if there is any info there
[13:14] <justin_> soreau: I'm wondering if there's a specification or something
[13:15] <justin_> soreau: 'cause I did't find anything else on the site
[13:15] <ardchoille> vargadanis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[13:15] <soreau> justin_: If you want to just build everything by hand it might be better.. look at the link in the topic of #radeon
[13:16] <vargadanis> ardchoille, that is not it... apache seems to be running but i can't connect to it... is there a firewall in ubunutu/kubuntu by default that is installed
[13:16] <vargadanis> ?
[13:16] <ouyes> jrib, there is an instruction file to instruct installation but no uninstalling
[13:16] <JakobSteinn> soreau: no I wish so but my friend and I also ssh to this computer and we even could not write anything from there..  well yes we can write something but it has no effect..
[13:16] <justin_> soreau:  ok, but would you like to check the source of xf86-video for me.
[13:16] <ardchoille> vargadanis: how are you trying to connect to it?
[13:16] <justin_> soreau: debian is using the same thing actually
[13:17] <vargadanis> ardchoille, in FX: http://localhost :)
[13:17] <[NL]Tjibba> how do i replace /var/lib/dpkg/available with /var/lib/dpkg/available.old
[13:17] <ardchoille> vargadanis: That fix worked for me in the same situation you're in. Have you tried that fix?
[13:17] <vargadanis> ardchoille, or do you know a way to confirm that apache runs?
[13:17] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Sounds like you broke your ubuntu ;)
[13:17] <Seveas> [NL]Tjibba, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available.old /var/lib/dpkg/available
[13:17] <jrib> ouyes: what is the link to the instruction file you are reading?  http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html suggests uninstallation instructions for that version at least
[13:18] <Like> omg!!!! :'(
[13:18] <[NL]Tjibba> ty
[13:18] <vargadanis> ardchoille, alright, i'll try that thank you
[13:18] <gatty> vargadanis: also try http://127.0.0.1/ in case apache hasn't bound to IPv6 version of localhost - FFX prefers IPv6 addresses by default.
[13:18] <vargadanis> gatty, okie
[13:18] <soreau> justin_: If you are serious about getting the open driver working, read the wiki link found in the #radeon topic and ask any questions you have about it in that channel
[13:18] <vargadanis> gatty, nope that didn't help
[13:19] <gatty> vargadanis: ok, go with ardchoille's suggestion :)
[13:19] <vargadanis> gatty, okie :)
[13:20] <hipitihop> gatty, sorry got called away...back now... I'm happy to wait for things to catch up, is there some way to simply disable it for now ?
[13:20] <JakobSteinn> soreau; i am scrued! haha. Do you have any suggestions on what i can do?
[13:20] <ouyes> jrib, ah man thank you
[13:20] <gatty> hipitihop: is it causing you a problem?  USB resets or something?
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, don't really use/depend on the webcam, but the problem is causing massive logs and very slow boot/login so if I can disable it then we can ignore it for now
[13:21] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Well the first thing to fixing it is identifying the problem. Unfortunately I have no idea how you broke it
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, e.g. syslog 95mg
[13:21] <osirisx11> my workspace applet is ignoring changes in preferences to increase the number of workspaces, ideas?
[13:21] <hipitihop> gatty, e.g. "I2c Bus Busy Wait 2c" lines and lines and lines of it
[13:22] <gatty> hipitihop: add 'gspca_vc032x' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom
[13:22] <gatty> assuming blacklisting modules still works that way on your ubuntu release - I still use 8.04 LTS as I mainly run servers :)
[13:22] <hipitihop> gatty, but I suspect there is no driver being loaded ... see last device http://paste.ubuntu.com/358028/
[13:23] <ouyes> jrib, there is no /usr/share/fglrx directory
[13:23] <jrib> ouyes: well I linked you to some random release notes.  You need to read the release notes for *your* version
[13:23] <JakobSteinn> soreau: Yea... well I installed the desktop manager 'awesome' and then afterwards my terminal went like "ka-booom"
[13:23] <gatty> hipitihop: it is loading - that's what the dmesg output is... but it's failing to determine what type of camera sensor is attached to the USB video bridge... the vc032x driver talks to the bridge, then tries to detect the camera sensor IC and can't, hence the I2C errors.
[13:24] <vargadanis> ardchoille, I have tried that thing and then i tried to restart apache and apache2ctl told me that there is no running pid.. tried to start it and then stop it and i got the same message
[13:24] <vargadanis> ardchoille, any tips why apache2 might fail to start?
[13:24] <ouyes> jrib,  you are right, i am in a quite hurry,
[13:24] <hipitihop> gatty, ok, blacklist-custom doe snot exist, is that what you expect ? i.e I should create new one ?
[13:24] <gatty> vargadanis: apache's error log should tell you.
[13:24] <ouyes> jrib, i find it
[13:24] <ardchoille> vargadanis: Try: sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[13:25] <gatty> hipitihop: let me check on a 9.x box I have at work, give me a couple of mins.
[13:25] <hipitihop> gatty, I do have empty blacklist though
[13:25] <soreau> JakobSteinn: MAybe you can try creating a new users
[13:25] <JakobSteinn> yea maybe..
[13:25] <vargadanis> gatty, error.log file shows no entried for the past few mins when i tried
[13:26] <vargadanis> ardchoille, tried it... sais apache2 not running, trying to start... no result :S apache still won't start
[13:26] <vargadanis> gatty, do you think that syslog might tell me something? Or some other logfile?
[13:26] <hipitihop> gatty, ignore that. do have a blacklist.conf
[13:26] <ardchoille> vargadanis: How did you install apache?
[13:26] <soreau> JakobSteinn: If another user is ok this points to a bad setting in your home folder
[13:26] <gatty> hipitihop: add it to blacklist.conf
[13:27] <gatty> hipitihop: without the quotes, obviously :)
[13:27] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:27] <RS-232> hi
[13:27] <vargadanis> ardchoille, out of the repos
[13:27] <RS-232> How can I hid a text to replace by a picture?
[13:27] <vargadanis> ardchoille, an 17 14:25:21 ubuntupower kernel: [ 3041.660393] apache2[2934]: segfault at 4 ip b751e0c1 sp bf86eba0 error 4 in libphp5.so[b7200000+4eb000]
[13:27] <gatty> hipitihop: and then you'll need a reboot to make sure it really does blacklist it.
[13:27] <hipitihop> gatty, :-) other line also say "blacklist xxx"
[13:27] <ardchoille> vargadanis: Ah, ok.. well I've never seen taht problem
[13:27] <JakobSteinn> soreau: how do I create another user without my term?
[13:28] <RS-232> I have: <a class="action-edit">Edit</a> and I want to hide the "Edit" text and place my own picture with background:url...? thanks
[13:28] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it seems that it's got some problem with libphp5, right?
[13:28] <soreau> JakobSteinn: I think there is user handling in sys>admin
[13:28] <jrib> RS-232: wrong channel?
[13:28] <gatty> hipitihop: so add a line saying "blacklist gspca_vc032x"
[13:28] <ardchoille> vargadanis: That's what it looks like to me
[13:28] <RS-232> oopss, I though I was in #css sorry
[13:28] <JakobSteinn> soreau: I am kind of handicaped you see? without my term and all..
[13:29] <vargadanis> ardchoille, ohh shoot... ok :) well it's gonna be a long hour :)
[13:29] <hipitihop> gatty, ok done, rebooting to test
[13:29] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Obviously but I think the gui method is in sys>admin>users and groups
[13:29] <marloshouse> i just installed kubuntu on an hp laptop and it's mostly working, except the KDE menus and window title bars are all crunched, i'm not sure what to search for to fix.
[13:30] <marloshouse> the main desktop is fine
[13:30] <marloshouse> and once windows are open, their contents are fine
[13:30] <marloshouse> but the title bars are unreadable
[13:30] <ardchoille> vargadanis: you can try asking in #ubuntu-server
[13:30] <soreau> JakobSteinn: There, you would click Unlock then Add User
[13:31] <soreau> JakobSteinn: Then, log out and log back in as the new user
[13:31] <vargadanis> ardchoille, good tip :)
[13:31] <hipitihop> gatty, legend... many thanks.
[13:31] <Cebedeus> Test
[13:31] <Cebedeus> Oke
[13:31] <gatty> hipitihop: you're welcome, hopefully a future kernel package will contain the driver you need :)
[13:32] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:32] <JakobSteinn> soreau: great! I will try that now (; thanks mate ! maybe I will be back! .. hopefully not. maybe with another problem sometime (:
[13:32] <hipitihop> gatty, indeed. thanks
[13:32] <justin_> soreau: you just mention xorg.conf can be generated automatically, then how ?
[13:33] <soreau> justin_: No, I said you dont need an xorg.conf. Without one, X will automatically choose the radeon driver
[13:33] <alternativo182> hello wordl!!!!
[13:33] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, gatty helped disable it for now so all sorted and reinstall not needed.... thanks for nudging me in the right direction. boot all normal now
[13:34] <justin_> soreau: I have compiled one and have had it installed . Now, time to reboot
[13:34] <ferym> чё, русских нет?
[13:34] <CShadowRun> !ru | ferym
[13:34] <quibbler> !ru | CShadowRun
[13:34] <CShadowRun> wat.
[13:34] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: diag I;m good at, soluitons, however..... =)
[13:34] <ferym> >_<
[13:35] <ferym> hi
[13:35] <hipitihop> Daugha|n, all good... off to bed now. cheers
[13:35] <Daugha|n> hipitihop: Glad he got ya straightened out on that. disableing would have been the next idea, if ya coudnt get a driver for it. Night.
[13:36] <atom_fox> My system always freeze, Ubuntu 9.10... I'm wondering if using ext4 cause the freeze? I'm planning to reinstall 9.10 on a ext3 filesystem
[13:38] <atom_fox> anyone?
[13:46] <ajvzomeren> Test2
[13:46] <ajvzomeren> oke
[13:47] <hid3nax> Anyone know what's with #debian? Can't join it already for two days...
[13:49] <atom_fox> My system freezes from time to time, Ubuntu 9.10.. I still can't fix for about 5 days, I'm wondering if the new file system EXT4 is causing it, I'm not having problems with other OS installed and I noticed that Ubuntu is the only OS installed in EXT4 system
[13:49] <IdleOne> hid3nax: are you identified to nickserv?
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, the misterious crash is solved
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it's a bug in the zend-framework package!
[13:50] <vargadanis> ardchoille, in the /etc/php5/conf.d/zend-framework file there is an entry, include_path that points to /usr/share/php/libzend-framework directory
[13:50] <hid3nax> IdleOne: nope ;-D
[13:51] <vargadanis> ardchoille, if you comment it out and then you modify the php.ini file to include that dir into the include path it works
[13:51] <IdleOne> hid3nax: there is your answer
[13:51] <hid3nax> Oh.. Thanks!
[13:51] <atom_fox> My system freezes from time to time, Ubuntu 9.10.. I still can't fix for about 5 days, I'm wondering if the new file system EXT4 is causing it, I'm not having problems with other OS installed and I noticed that Ubuntu is the only OS installed in EXT4 system
[13:51] <jstoone> join #jMCg
[13:52] <ardchoille> vargadanis: yay! No you can file a bug report :)
[13:52] <norbi905> Hello.  I have an nvidia twinview set-up.  But every single time I reboot, it reverts back to single display.  I for some reason can't save the twinview set-up.  Any solution to this problem?
[13:52] <ardchoille> *Now
[13:52] <vargadanis> atom_fox, ahm I thought the default FS is still Ext3
[13:52] <vargadanis> ardchoille, i don't know how O_o
[13:52] <ardchoille> !bugs | vargadanis
[13:52] <soreau> atom_fox: Are you running compositing desktop effects?
[13:52] <ouyes> after installation and uninstallation there is always a window came out to request me to configrate the VGA, why after an complete uninstallation ( the ati vga driver)
[13:53] <atom_fox> soreau, is that compiz? I have the proper graphic driver installed, I have 4GB memory
[13:54] <vargadanis> ardchoille, it said to use ubuntu-bug command... ahm I get the answer that there is no such command
[13:54] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[13:55] <ardchoille> vargadanis: nice
[13:55] <atom_fox> soreau, ???
[13:55] <tomasix> Hi
[13:56] <atom_fox> anyone here?
[13:56] <SealedWithAKiss> If I were to upgrade from Hardy to Karmic, would I notice much difference?
[13:57] <atom_fox> I really need help
[13:57] <kinja-sheep> vargadanis: Install apport if you want to use ubuntu-bug
[13:57] <ouyes> SealedWithAKiss,  nothing much, the shorter start time and more beautiful windows
[13:57] <h11amzaatova2> ive a problem to boot -etc/fstab cant be mounted --swap waiting ror --/dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[13:58] <vargadanis> yeah i have found a way
[13:58] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: I used Karmic then tried to go back to Hardy but I find that "too behind" for my tastes. LTS == Very nice stable.
[13:59] <ardchoille> SealedWithAKiss: If I were you I'd just wait until Lucid is released in April, it will be an LTS release
[14:00] <backslash7> Hey guys - I'm planning on installing Ubuntu to an usb flash drive by inserting an installation CD into my computer and just install it to the usb drive partition - is that going to work? I need it persistent and will use ext2 (no journaling) and noatime for the root partition. What do you think?
[14:00] <soreau> atom_fox: Is that to say you are using a proprietary graphics driver?
[14:01] <zongo> Hi, I have installed smb on my ubuntu box to share files with my vista box through virtual box. It worked  once but now I get the error "netzork access not find"
[14:01] <zongo> on my vista box
[14:01] <uzu-cat> does anybody know what is what i have to install to make a bluray player works?
[14:01] <tacantara> #ubuntu-meeting
[14:01] <kinja-sheep> uzu-cat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[14:02] <backslash7> Anyone?
[14:02] <uzu-cat> thanks! ;)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:03] <Out`Of`Control> Ubuntu Rulzz
[14:03] <rob0917> If  Windows 7 and Ubuntu cost the same what features of Ubuntu would help me choose Ubuntu over Windows 7 ?
[14:03] <disappearedng> anyone familiar with how I can set azureus to be a particular user and then when it download and create files using that user account
[14:04] <minimec> rob0917: freedom! You cannot pay that... ;)
[14:04] <Paultje66> Hello all, does anyone maybe know how to remove a program from autostart? I added xbmc to the autostart but know my screen is blank. so i need to change some config file to remove the auto start. I can press ctrl + alt + f2 but then what?
[14:05] <uzu-cat> kinja-sheep, but i think that i have to install the driver of the bluray player
[14:05] <trevski> Paulje66: I use ubuntu tweak
[14:06] <kinja-sheep> uzu-cat: http://bluraysucks.com/
[14:06] <Paultje66> ok thanx alott
[14:06] <uzu-cat> xD
[14:08] <pichudo> hi there
[14:08] <surf> hi I have a problem with wi-fi disconnection. Someone told me it was an antheros driver problem so I need to add a patch or something. How can I do it? any idea?
[14:09] <pichudo> anyone here??
[14:09] <kinja-sheep> surf: "lshw -c network" -- Paste that into http://pastebin.com/
[14:09] <Ari_Lazarus> hi guys
[14:09] <Ari_Lazarus> I have a question... how come my symlink isn't working? :(
[14:11] <surf> kinja-sheep, http://pastebin.com/d2a6c70b2
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> surf: Sorry. I'm here now.
[14:13] <kinja-sheep> surf: Karmic?
[14:14] <surf> yes
[14:15] <Izyum97> Hello, happy Ubuntu users!
[14:15] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:16] <oCean_> surf: I also have a AR928X Wireless Network Adapter - no problems disconnecting after firmware upgrade of my router (zyxel)
[14:16] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: How are you?
[14:16] <kinja-sheep> surf: Sorry. Sidetracked again. You want to install linux-backports-modules-karmic
[14:16] <natrixnatrix89> I cant remove a packege http://paste.ubuntu.com/358051/ .. Can anyone help me please?
[14:16] <surf> kinja-sheep, I think I did it
[14:17] <kinja-sheep> surf: "aptitude search linux-backports-modules-karmic"
[14:17] <kinja-sheep> surf: If it is installed, you'll see 'i'
[14:17] <onetinsoldier> Izyum97: good thanks. how are you? :-)
[14:17] <_iTroll> hello guys, karmic user here.  is there a convenient method for me to compile newer version of a driver? (ath5k wireless)
[14:18] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: So-so... I have disk of Ubuntu, but my CD-drive's broken.
[14:18] <surf> kinja-sheep,  I see p   linux-backports-modules-karmic  - Generic Linux backported drivers.
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> surf: Not installed. Booyah! Install it right away. Reboot.
[14:18] <ouyes> _iTroll,  what you mean convenient? how convenient do you need?
[14:18] <abhi_> All my 3d games were working fine. But then I mess up with SDL library files. I want to install Excalibur: Morgana’s Revenge v3.0. But it is not installing by itself. I got info in their README that i should first install and set SDL libraries. so from their web site i downloaded source package and install it. after that no 3d game is starting including, wideland,torcs, Balazar,Battle for Wasnoth. Someone should diagnos the problem
[14:18] <abhi_>  with SDL libraries. let me know if anyone of u have some sort of solution or workaround. Is there any other way to get all these games working? (e.g. reinstalling game or something like that???)
[14:18] <onetinsoldier> Izyum97: bummer. are you wanting to install? how about using usb stick method to install?
[14:18] <kinja-sheep> surf: And you should be done... theoretically!
[14:19] <Izyum97> onetinsoldier: I haven't ISO. :(
[14:19] <surf> kinja-sheep, ok thx mate. I'm doing it right now. Hopefully
[14:19] <abhi_> Anyone knows which sdl libraries are needed for standard installation?
[14:19] <_iTroll> ouyes: well i mean is there an easier method than re-compiling a whole newer kernel version.  Old style out of tree build or something
[14:20] <kinja-sheep> surf: Keep me posted.
[14:20] <surf> kinja-sheep, k :D
[14:20] <onetinsoldier> Izyum97: darn
[14:20] <geitenneuker> Short fairy tale: Once upon a time, a guy asked a beautiful girl, 'Will you marry me" The girl said, 'NO!' And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and went fishing and hunting and played golf a lot and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.
[14:20] <Ari_Lazarus> geitenneuker: :D
[14:20] <ouyes> _iTroll,  i have no idea about the kernel re-compiling
[14:21] <Ari_Lazarus> Has anyone here used the 'Storage Device Manager'? I can't seem to make my partition mount with exec permissions
[14:21] <Ari_Lazarus> :/
[14:21] <IdleOne> !ot | geitenneuker
[14:21] <geitenneuker> !ot | live is offtopic
[14:21] <_iTroll> ouyes: think ive just found the answer anyway. linux-wireless project has a package available to install all the latest wireless drivers, without recompiling the whole kernel
[14:22] <djdafz> Im having issues with wireless on ubuntu 8.04, its not showing wireless in  network settings Im on a hp compaq 6720 laptop with a broadcom 802.11g, hardware test shows wireless as broadcom corp BCM 4310 usb controller (am unsure if this is correct) I also apologise in advance as I am a n00b to Ubuntu and Linux
[14:22] <IdleOne> geitenneuker: granted but this channel is for ubuntu support, not stupid lame jokes :)
[14:22] <geitenneuker> idleOne: there are no stupid jokes, only stupid peoples
[14:23] <Ari_Lazarus> Everytime you make an off-topic entry into IRC another penguin dies, THINK OF THE PENGUINS
[14:23] <summerboy18> what up
[14:23] <IdleOne> geitenneuker: fine but you are still offtopic. please join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[14:23] <summerboy18> what up boys
[14:23] <summerboy18> anyone online?
[14:23] <summerboy18> anyone onliune here boys
[14:23] <geitenneuker> i think penguins have problems in the northern hemisphere
[14:23] <jeeez> hey, are there any wysiwyg html editors like dreamweaver or frontpage?
[14:23] <summerboy18> anyone online here boys?
[14:23] <IdleOne> !ot > summerboy18
[14:23] <oCean_> summerboy18: this is ubuntu support channel, not chat
[14:23] <abhi_> All my 3d games were working fine. But then I mess up with SDL library files. I want to install Excalibur: Morgana’s Revenge v3.0. But it is not installing by itself. I got info in their README that i should first install and set SDL libraries. so from their web site i downloaded source package and install it. after that no 3d game is starting including, wideland,torcs, Balazar,Battle for Wasnoth. Someone should diagnos the problem
[14:23] <abhi_>  with SDL libraries. let me know if anyone of u have some sort of solution or workaround. Is there any other way to get all these games working? (e.g. reinstalling game or something like that???)
[14:24] <ouyes> _iTroll, it is not necessary to recompile the kernel in order to use a wifi driver, find a proper driver will be easy , i guess
[14:24] <LjL> !kompozer | jeeez
[14:24] <summerboy18> fuck ubuntu
[14:24] <summerboy18> i use mac os x
[14:24] <LjL> !language | summerboy18
[14:24] <summerboy18> ubuntu - fail
[14:24] <FloodBot3> summerboy18: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <geitenneuker> ouyes: just get a vanilla kernel
[14:24] <summerboy18> ubuntu = failed piece a shit
[14:24] <LjL> !ops | summerboy18
[14:24] <CShadowRun> summerboy18: i suggest you behave or i'll call the op...owait nevermind
[14:24] <summerboy18> Ubuntu = fucking shit
[14:24] <CShadowRun> annoyingtroll has returned once again!
[14:24] <summerboy18> Mac OS X = Success
[14:24] <maco> summerboy18: could you at least not swear?
[14:24] <Ari_Lazarus> Nice, an automated ping command
[14:24] <maco> oh ok
[14:25] <geitenneuker> i said it
[14:25] <ricerocket> ubuntu = free
[14:25] <geitenneuker> eek neuke geiten
[14:25] <oCean_> geitenneuker: you nick is offending, even when it's dutch. Please change your nick
[14:25] <geitenneuker> ricecrocket: my time is more important as a bit money
[14:25] <LjL> camelneuker: hoho funny. not.
[14:26] <IdleOne> !troll > rekuennetieg
[14:26] <rekuennetieg> this is finnish
[14:26] <ricerocket> hey guys, when I start cover gloobus, it is recognized by the taskbar, but I don't want it to. how do i change that?
[14:26] <djdafz> ﻿Im having issues with wireless on ubuntu 8.04, its not showing wireless in  network settings Im on a hp compaq 6720 laptop with a broadcom 802.11g, hardware test shows wireless as broadcom corp BCM 4310 usb controller (am unsure if this is correct) I also apologise in advance as I am a n00b to Ubuntu and Linux
[14:26] <ricerocket> it's not in the setting
[14:27] <rekuennetieg> hi thelonius monk
[14:27] <abhi_>  All my 3d games were working fine. But then I mess up with SDL library files. I want to install Excalibur: Morgana’s Revenge v3.0. But it is not installing by itself. I got info in their README that i should first install and set SDL libraries. so from their web site i downloaded source package and install it. after that no 3d game is starting including, wideland,torcs, Balazar,Battle for Wasnoth. Someone should diagnos the problem
[14:27] <abhi_>   with SDL libraries. let me know if anyone of u have some sort of solution or workaround. Is there any other way to get all these games working? (e.g. reinstalling game or something like that???)
[14:29] <boss_mc> abhi_: you should install the ubuntu SDL libs (sudo aptitude install libsdl-<whichever lib you need>)
[14:30] <Webirkkaaja> hi, anyone know why I can't see install button in the software center of ubuntu nbr 9.10?
[14:31] <guest> hai
[14:31] <guest> mana utrang indonesia
[14:31] <_iTroll> ouyes: I know that, I just need a more recent one than is in latest karmic kernel
[14:31] <bazhang> !id | guest
[14:31] <jami> Webkirkkaaja: update-manager -d
[14:32] <ouyes> i use hardy
[14:33] <ouyes> is there a proper software to monitor the temp of the cpu and gpu ?
[14:33] <Webirkkaaja> jami what does that mean?
[14:33] <ardchoille> ouyes: I use gkrellm for that
[14:34] <trijntje> ouyes, conky can do that too, with some tweaking
[14:34] <jami> Webirkkaaja: -d, --devel-release
[14:34] <viu1974> :)
[14:34] <jami> Webirkkaaja: or what do you want
[14:35] <ouyes> trijntje,  the sampler the better
[14:35] <oCean_> Webirkkaaja: in software center, you click any package, and then ...?
[14:35] <amouge> I think I have a corrupt font, but not sure how to go about fixing it.. I think its arial font, whats happening is all instances in flash, or html of a capital bolded S are missing... if I go into firebug and remove arial from the css source code so it goes to another font everything shows fine.. so what should i do?
[14:37] <ardchoille> ouyes: If you do decide to use gkrellm to monitor temps, I am willing tohelp you set it up
[14:38] <jami> amouge: tried fc-cache -r?
[14:38] <ouyes> ardchoille,  i prefer to work it out all by myself, thank you.
[14:38] <ardchoille> ouyes: Ok :)
[14:39] <LiCeT> hi all
[14:39] <ardchoille> I like his attitude :)
[14:39] <ouyes> ardchoille,  you are so kind-hearted, mate
[14:39] <gatty> need more people like that
[14:39] <amouge> jami: nope but trying it now
[14:40] <SealedWithAKiss> Is it possible to upgrade to a 64bit OS? Or is a clean install required?
[14:40] <xss> hi
[14:40] <bazhang> SealedWithAKiss, fresh install
[14:40] <gatty> SealedWithAKiss: clean install, otherwise things can go very very screwy as all the library paths change
[14:40] <jami> SealedWithAKiss: fresh install
[14:41] <ouyes> ardchoille,  i choose to use the complex one conky
[14:41] <ouyes> ardchoille,  wiki will help me through
[14:41] <ardchoille> ouyes: Ah, yeah, conky can domuch more
[14:42] <beaves> i have a problem with thunderbird. if i go on a link in an email, firefox dont open the link. firefox is the standardbrowser
[14:42] <jimbo80> !list
[14:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 ouyes
[14:42] <d10p0rc0> I have a problem with Internet connection. Page download freezes
[14:43] <llutz> beaves: add this to your user.js: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http","/usr/bin/firefox");
[14:43] <beaves> llutz ok wait a moment
[14:43] <llutz> beaves: and: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https","/usr/bin/firefox");
[14:44] <jami> d10p0rc0: enough space left ?
[14:44] <jami> :)
[14:44] <ouyes> bazhang,  ah thank you
[14:44] <d10p0rc0> =)
[14:44] <beaves> llutz need a restart of thunderbird?
[14:44] <llutz> beaves: afaik yes
[14:44] <d10p0rc0> when I type wget of a file, it downloads 4254 bytes and then stops
[14:44] <element_> hey guys is there any channel to get help with dell troubleshooting?
[14:44] <DexterF> hi
[14:45] <diddy> I want to remove lines from a text file. Lines that start with a space character and lines that have the word applicable at the beginning of the line. Could anybody help me with the command that would remove such lines please?
[14:45] <d10p0rc0> everything that downloads from web freezes
[14:45] <d10p0rc0> even synaptic
[14:45] <gatty> d10p0rc0: MTU problem?
[14:45] <DexterF> friend of mine reports a shutdown problem on 9.10, applet doesn't work. known problem? workaround?
[14:45] <ouyes> bazhang,  IT is very helpful
[14:45] <d10p0rc0> I don't know... how could I check it?
[14:45] <bazhang> ouyes, nice
[14:46] <beaves> llutz it wont work
[14:46] <pattabi> while im compiling a java prgm the follwoing error is coming?new.java:1: <identifier> expected
[14:46] <pattabi> class new
[14:46] <pattabi>      ^
[14:46] <pattabi> new.java:3: illegal start of expression
[14:46] <pattabi> public static void main(String args[])
[14:46] <FloodBot3> pattabi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <_Darkstar_> hi im using xubuntu my top and bottom panel disappeared, cant seem to open the settings in the settings manager either... can anyone help
[14:46] <pattabi> ^
[14:46] <llutz> diddy: egrep (^ |pattern$) file
[14:46] <_Darkstar_> hi im using xubuntu my top and bottom panel disappeared, cant seem to open the settings in the settings manager either... can anyone help
[14:46] <GiGirock> hi all I have problem with alien answer is error: incorrect format: unknown tag
[14:46] <gatty> d10p0rc0: you can find out your internet connection's MTU using ping - google for 'mtu ping'
[14:46] <d10p0rc0> gatty: In the network manager it is set as Automatic
[14:46] <llutz> diddy: egrep -v (^ |pattern$) file     sorry
[14:46] <jami> d10p0rc0: tried wget -c
[14:47] <llutz> beaves: added both lines to user.js in tb-profile-directory?
[14:47] <ardchoille> GiGirock: alien?
[14:47] <diddy> llutz, but that only inverts the file. I want to remove those lines permanently.
[14:47] <llutz> diddy: redirect to new file
[14:47] <jami> d10p0rc0: this continues your download
[14:47] <LjL> d10p0rc0: would you consider changing your nickname to something a bit more family friendly please?
[14:47] <beaves> llutz no about:config
[14:47] <_Darkstar_> hi im using xubuntu my top and bottom panel disappeared, cant seem to open the settings in the settings manager either... can anyone help
[14:48] <d10p0rc0> yes, sorry, but I was a bit angry after trying several nicks
[14:48] <GiGirock> ardchoille i want to convert a rpm into a deb
[14:48] <llutz> beaves: in thunderbird?
[14:48] <LjL> d10p0rc0: heh i see
[14:48] <d10p0rc0> may I change it next time or should I leave
[14:48] <ardchoille> !alien | GiGirock read the last sentence carefully
[14:48] <beaves> llutz yes
[14:48] <LjL> d10p0rc0: you can type /nick newnickname to change it
[14:48] <ardchoille> GiGirock: we cannot support that here, obviously
[14:49] <pattabi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/358066/          plz help
[14:49] <diddy> so: egrep -v (^ | applicable$) /home/myfile.txt > newfile.txt will remove all lines that begin with a space or start with the word applicable?
[14:49] <thanksg0d> thanksg0d is better?
[14:49] <_Darkstar_> hi im using xubuntu my top and bottom panel disappeared, cant seem to open the settings in the settings manager either... can anyone help
[14:49] <LjL> i suppose so
[14:49] <kwtm> llutz: Don't you mean "(^ |^pattern)" instead of "(^ |pattern$)"?
[14:49] <GiGirock> !alien
[14:50] <llutz> kwtm: i meant, misread it
[14:50] <Nordmoen> could anyone help med with Eclipse and dropins?
[14:50] <thanksg0d> so going back to MTU, what value should be good? 1492?
[14:50] <kwtm> diddy: in case you didn't notice my message to llutz: I think you want "(^ |^pattern)" instead of "(^ |pattern$)".
[14:50] <jami> thanksg0d: wget -c -t 0 -T 10 -O foo.bak http://...
[14:50] <gatty> thanksg0d: 1492 is standard for most ADSL connections
[14:50] <gatty> thanksg0d: some ISPs use 1400, but that's reasonably rare now
[14:50] <SimSimma>  I cannot use Firefox to "Open With" at torrent anymore as it will say "an instance of transmission is already running"
[14:50] <diddy> kwtm, so: egrep -v (^ |^applicable) /home/myfile.txt > newfile.txt will remove all lines that begin with a space or start with the word applicable?
[14:51] <kwtm> diddy: so it should be "grep -e -v '^( |pattern)' inputfile >outputfile".  Yes, you are right.  "egrep" is the old way of saying "grep -e".
[14:51] <thanksg0d> so I put 1492 and nothing changes
[14:51] <SimSimma> Where can I edit launch settings for programs
[14:51] <beaves> llutz i cant find a user.js
[14:51] <llutz> diddy: yes, sorry i misread "line end with work aplicable"
[14:51] <berserk_ren> how to make sdb1 to automount in mountpoint /downloads ? =} who knows the answer tell please =}
[14:51] <llutz> beaves: create it
[14:52] <jami> berserk_ren: add it to fstab
[14:52] <gatty> thanksg0d: you may need to do it on your router rather than on the ubuntu box
[14:52] <berserk_ren> oh yes... i was thinking bout it =} thnx
[14:53] <diddy> so: egrep -v  '^( |applicable$)'  /home/myfile.txt > newfile.txt ???
[14:53] <LiCeT> back :)
[14:53] <bio-tty> the two tar-balls you get when doing apt-get source package will always be able to produce the directory you get, by applying the ubuntu diff to orig?
[14:53] <llutz> beaves: what exact have you added to about:config?  needs new key, type string, name  "network.protocol-handler.app.http", value "/usr/bin/firefox"
[14:53] <thanksg0d> jami: I tried your long wget and something changes
[14:54] <SimSimma> Does anybody know why I cant use Firefox to "Open With" at torrent file and it says "transmission is already running"????
[14:54] <thanksg0d> it is downloading a bit more but after 8 k goes timeout and retries
[14:54] <VCoolio> SimSimma: what kind of settings?
[14:54] <jami> 8k
[14:54] <bio-tty> question -- the two tar-balls you get when doing apt-get source package will always be able to produce the directory you get, by applying the ubuntu diff to orig?
[14:54] <LiCeT> when i started once my webcam on a site like mebeam there is no way to get cam work with an messenger like the cam is still working
[14:54] <thanksg0d> gatty: why should I change anything on the router if it worked perfectly when I had ubuntu 8?
[14:54] <LiCeT> how can i find the apropriate process?
[14:54] <thanksg0d> jami: what did that long wget mean?
[14:54] <berserk_ren> and where i can look for UUID ? =}
[14:55] <SimSimma> VCoolio, the launch settings that Firefox uses for when you choose to download something but instead use "Open With"
[14:55] <bazhang> !blkid | berserk_ren
[14:55] <llutz> berserk_ren: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[14:55] <gatty> thanksg0d: you didn't say it worked fine before...:)
[14:55] <beaves> llutz it wont work with the user.js :(
[14:55] <SimSimma> I just need to make sure the command is right for torrents
[14:55] <berserk_ren> thankyouverymuch
[14:56] <thanksg0d> gatty: yes it did
[14:56] <VCoolio> SimSimma: in edit > preferences > applications you can point to what app to use for what files
[14:56] <SimSimma> VCoolio, That doesnt work. I already tried that. Is there a textfile anywhere
[14:56] <jami> thanksg0d: it tries forever (-t 0) to continue the file download with a timeout of 10s (-T 10)
[14:56] <llutz> beaves: that's odd, works here fine and according to lots of tuts it should do everywhere. check spelling, path etc.
[14:56] <thanksg0d> gatty: I installed this morning ubuntu 9, it freezed on APT configure at 80%
[14:56] <plluksie> Hello all. Does anyone setup xen on 9.10. I would like to do quick test on karmic. It seems I have to recompile kernel or use kernel from debian. Am I right?
[14:57] <thanksg0d> gatty: I skipped it considering to do it after install
[14:57] <thanksg0d> but when I connect to web it freezes...
[14:57] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[14:57] <thanksg0d> no Ideas?
[14:57] <bio-tty> question -- apt-get source gives two tarballs and a directory.  is the directory always redundant?
[14:57] <gatty> thanksg0d: have you checked dmesg for any strange messages from your NIC driver?
[14:58] <oCean_> plluksie: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[14:58] <thanksg0d> no I'm doing it
[14:58] <beaves> llutz thunderbird find the user.js, i can see the entries in about:config
[14:58] <jami> thanksg0d: hm bad prehistory
[14:58] <VCoolio> SimSimma: i don't know what file that would be, but it is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default somewhere
[14:58] <SimSimma> VCoolio, alright thanks I will rumamge thru there
[14:59] <thanksg0d> gatty: I googled about this apt freeze and a lot of guys had this problem
[14:59] <beaves> llutz the entires called network.protocol-handler.app.http and network.protocol-handler.app.https, both with /usr/bin/firefox
[14:59] <jami> thanksg0d: there can be 1000 reasons for apt freezing
[15:00] <llutz> beaves: right
[15:00] <thanksg0d> you're right jami
[15:00] <llutz> beaves: just to be sure, "which firefox"
[15:00] <thanksg0d> that's why I skipped it
[15:00] <jami> thanksg0d: you upgraded right?
[15:01] <thanksg0d> no I didn't
[15:01] <jami> thanksg0d: fresh install?
[15:01] <thanksg0d> fresh, this morning
[15:01] <berserk_ren> oh yeah automount  is working just perfectly =} thnx 4 hlp =}
[15:01] <thanksg0d> apt-get update freezes
[15:01] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[15:01] <beaves> llutz what do you mean?
[15:02] <llutz> beaves: output of command "which firefox"
[15:03] <thanksg0d> I think it can be something about my Alice router
[15:03] <beaves> llutz /usr/bin/firefox
[15:03] <thanksg0d> I tried with another network card and it's the same
[15:03] <llutz> beaves: so all should be ok. no idea why it doesn't work for you
[15:04] <jami> thanksg0d: and why should apt freeze for the bad behaviour of your router
[15:04] <beaves> llutz if i look in the processlist, there are where much firefox processes
[15:05] <thanksg0d> jami: don't know... it's not the router itself
[15:05] <thanksg0d> I'm using it right now
[15:06] <plluksie> oCean_: Ok. So I'm going to get kernel from Debian and install it under Ubuntu. Does anyone know a better option ?
[15:06] <thanksg0d> I could download an older ubuntu 9.(less than 10)
[15:06] <ido_> I can't mount my windows partition and update-grub does not detect windows, can anyone help? :/
[15:07] <ido_> I can't mount my windows partition and update-grub does not detect windows, can anyone help? :/
[15:07] <LinuX2half> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[15:08] <jami> thanksg0d: strange problem. you chat so your router/routing is fine.
[15:08] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[15:08] <ido_> I can't mount my windows partition and update-grub does not detect windows, can anyone help? :/
[15:08] <beaves> llutz do you have some ideas?
[15:08] <thanksg0d> I leave now... thanks to everybody have a nice day
[15:08] <ChogyDan> ido_: I can't help, but you should probably work on not being able to mount your partition
[15:09] <llutz> beaves: try closing all ff instances and click a link in tb then. will it open firefox?
[15:09] <LinuX2half> ido_: use gparted to identify the problem.
[15:09] <jami> thanksg0d: and df -h say that there is enought space left in every temp path
[15:09] <beaves> llutz wait
[15:09] <jami> thanksg0d: corrupt disk? fsck
[15:09] <ido_> LinuX2half, how exactly can I use it to identify the problem?
[15:11] <ido_> ChogyDan, well.. I searched everywhere, I get no error when trying to  mount it manually, only when i use nautilus and there is no info anywhere about it...
[15:11] <beaves> llutz it wont work
[15:11] <llutz> beaves: sorry, no idea
[15:11] <jami> thanksg0d: also try apt-get clean, apt-get check
[15:11] <LinuX2half> ido_: Personally, I don't have this problem but I create a NTFS partition alongside with the ext3 partition. If you can't mount your windows partition then that means probably the partition isn't mounted.
[15:12] <beaves> llutz thank you for trying to help
[15:12] <ido_> LinuX2half, I can mount other ntfs partitions on the very same hd, I'm really clueless...
[15:14] <Talon_> is there a way to completely remove all prompts for my password for EVERYTHING? I understand the issues concerning doing this, but this is MY computer, only MY login, I fail to see why i need to retype my password to look at a different drive, or start the package manager, etc... this is very annoying.
[15:15] <LinuX2half> ido_: Alright, if you felt bewildered then follow this website and see if you could comprehend of the steps. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[15:15] <fbu90> how, can i make 360 photo in ubuntu? what program?
[15:15] <llutz> Talon_: because _your computer_ is connected to the internet and security breaks will harm other
[15:15] <jami> Talon_: put the device mount to the fstab and use umask
[15:15] <LinuX2half> ido_: it's pretty simple since it had screenshots
[15:16] <Talon_> those were examples.. I know how to edit my fstab
[15:16] <ido_> LinuX2half, those steps do not work...
[15:16] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs | ido_ this does work
[15:17] <root> k
[15:17] <jami> Talon_: and the issue that every program has root rights does not frighten you
[15:17] <aksx> can i install two programs together in ubuntu
[15:18] <ja660k> is there a way i can use wget to output to the terminal?
[15:18] <LinuX2half> ido_: so I assume that you had try them before..?
[15:18] <Talon_> jami, no. I do frequent drive images of both my bootable partitions so if something gets screwed by my doing, or some program i chose to install, my system can be back to the way it was within 10 minutes
[15:18] <natrixnatrix89> If I connect a USB - serial adapter. Which would be the address to get to the serial port?
[15:19] <jami> ja660k: wget -O - ...
[15:19] <natrixnatrix89> would it be /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyUSB0?
[15:19] <aksx> any one ::: is there a way to install two different programs simultaneously
[15:19] <ja660k> jami: thanks =)
[15:19] <CShadowRun> aksx sudo apt-get install program1 program2
[15:19] <LinuX2half> ido_: alright how about this one? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[15:19] <beaves> llutz i try it with a other browser (kazehakase) and it works
[15:19] <SealedWithAKiss> I have just upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid. On reboot, the OS produces an error saying "Fatal error: No screens detected" and doesn't load the GUI. Can anybody help?
[15:20] <jami> Talon_: but you want to workaround a good architecture
[15:20] <Talon_> it should be an option, i'm the sole user of my computer, i live alone, its my machine, why do I haveto enter my password so many times for so many things :/
[15:21] <jami> Talon_: security issues
[15:21] <jami> Talon_: GOOD security issues
[15:21] <myself> hello
[15:21] <aksx> cshadowrun: one installation is continuing i want to start another
[15:21] <SealedWithAKiss> I have just upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid. On reboot, the OS produces an error saying "Fatal error: No screens detected" and doesn't load the GUI. Can anybody help?
[15:21] <ChogyDan> Talon_: you can do autologin, do you have that?  Also, you can have a blank keyring password
[15:21] <bastid_raZor> jami: look into sudoers.. in a terminal type man sudoers
[15:21] <CShadowRun> aksx: i don't think you can
[15:21] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: if it works, i think it should be something like /dev/ttyUSB0
[15:21] <llutz> Talon_: because _your computer_ is connected to the internet and security breaks will harm others. welcome to the world of botnets/spam etc
[15:22] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: What do you mean - if it works?
[15:22] <aksx> CShadowRun: is there any way of doing it tried running one installation via apt-get and other via aptitude didnt work
[15:22] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: well, i mean the adapter might not be recognized... but hopefully it will
[15:22] <CShadowRun> (15:21:07) CShadowRun: aksx: i don't think you can
[15:23] <SealedWithAKiss> I have just upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid. On reboot, the OS produces an error saying "Fatal error: No screens detected" and doesn't load the GUI. Can anybody help?
[15:23] <ChogyDan> aksx: no, you can't, why do you want to anyway?  Maybe there is another option
[15:23] <oCean_> Talon_: see the /etc/sudoers file. There are options to use sudo w/out need for entering password
[15:23] <Talon_> is it or is it not possible.
[15:24] <myself> how can i reinstall a virtual package?
[15:24] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: im just guessing, but upgrading to intrepid is probably not the best idea.  You should either run Hardy8.04 or Karmic9.10
[15:24] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[15:24]  * Xaero is away: autoaway [l(on) p(on)]
[15:24] <taran> hello people
[15:24] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: dmesg says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/358077/
[15:24] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[15:24] <LjL> !away > Xaero    (Xaero, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:24] <bastid_raZor> Talon_: in a terminal type man sudoers ..this is what you need to edit.
[15:24] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I had to upgrade to Intrepid to get to Karmic.
[15:24] <oCean_> Talon_: yes, see /etc/sudoers
[15:24] <jami> Talon_: its possible but since you are on the internet its a stupid idea
[15:24] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: then it should definitely be recognized at /dev/ttyUSB0
[15:24] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: can you upgrade again?
[15:25] <natrixnatrix89> So I can tell other software that they can find the serial device in /dev/ttyUSB0?
[15:25] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, the whole point was to go from Hardy to Intrepid to Jaunty to Karmic.
[15:25] <LinuX2half> Why when I was auto removing my deleted packages, there's an line that said 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[15:25] <Talon_> i have modified my sudoers already, works great for terminal use of sudo.. everything else still asks for my password
[15:25] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: yes.
[15:26] <Talon_> so since its possible, how do I do it... I understand the risks, but I still want to do it. it should be my choice
[15:26] <bastid_raZor> Talon_: add gksudo and run graphical applications from terminal with gksudo .. no password required.
[15:26] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: The problem Is I have connected a weather station to that port. But when I run wview and tell it to use this address, the daemons start, but it says its still starting
[15:27] <natrixnatrix89> and I cant get it to work.. Like it would be waiting for some packets ir sth :S
[15:27] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, can you boot into the terminal?
[15:27] <SealedWithAKiss> isolat3dsh33p, I have access to the terminal.
[15:27] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: it might be waiting for some flow control signal that never gets activated. have a look at the flow control options. you should probably also try debugging using the package "minicom" (a simple terminal emulator)
[15:28] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, maybe you can upgrade using the terminal. I'm not really sure though.
[15:28] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: to upgrade from the terminal: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core   and then sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:28] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: what is flow control, and what exactly do I have to try? Sorry i'm such a newbie.. I just really want to set up the weather station..
[15:29] <oCean_> Talon_: add your user to group "sudo", and uncomment line starting "# %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD" in /etc/sudoers
[15:29] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, why would I want to perform another upgrade when the last upgrade I performed has caused problems?
[15:29] <oCean_> Talon_: be sure to use "visudo" command to edit /etc/sudoers file
[15:29] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, will upgrading to Jaunty solve the problems from the previous upgrade?
[15:30] <Talon_> i've already done that
[15:30] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: good point, but the video stuff has had trouble in past releases.  There might be fixes later on.  It's up to you
[15:30] <LjL> natrixnatrix89, it might end up being a bit complicated. serial ports (the RS232 interface) have a pin or two that are used to say "yes, i'm here, i'm a serial device, and i'm ready to send/receive". those are called RTS/CTS (ready to send / clear to send).  alternatively, another method of flow control is called XON/XOFF, and doesn't use any additional pins
[15:30] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: it's possible, for example, that your program expects RTS/CTS signals, but those aren't carried by the adapter.
[15:30] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: I just installed minicom. What can I do with it?
[15:30] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: how you would tell your software to ignore them... i don't know that.
[15:30] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, it can't make things any worse can it? As long as my data isn't screwed, I don't mind. Maybe my card is supported in a later distro.
[15:30] <LjL> natrixnatrix89: you can try to see the raw output that's coming from the serial port, if any.
[15:31] <Talon_> any time in terminal i can now use sudo without it asking for my password, but using the places from the ubunu menu and clicking on a drive it still asks, and so does like package manager..
[15:31] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, what's you card anyway?
[15:31] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: well, you may just want to backup your /home, and then just install karmic
[15:31] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, so by running those two commands from the terminal the kernel will upgrade?
[15:31] <SaintSapp> Is there a way to perform an integer search on all files in a directory, at the binary level, for a given value?
[15:31] <SealedWithAKiss> isolat3dsh33p, ATI Radeon 4670 HD.
[15:31] <Talon_> well n/m package manager doesnt ask me anymore
[15:31] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: no, the whole system
[15:31] <martianlobster> I want to install jbidwatcher on my ubuntu box. I can't find anything with synaptic or apt-cache search.  What is the best way to install jbidwatcher?
[15:31] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: how do I change the port on minicom?
[15:31] <Talon_> any drive request from the places menu still asks for a password tho
[15:32] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I don't have anything to back up to. An iPod? A DVD-R?
[15:32]  * Talon_ sighs
[15:33] <Talon_> heck with it, im just going to enable root and login as root. that ought to do it I'd hope.
[15:33] <LjL> martianlobster: uhm, it was there in previous versions of ubuntu (like hardy). i don't know why it has been removed, but you could try installing it from http://packages.ubuntu.com and selecting the newest version that still has it. of course, though, it might not install correctly.
[15:33] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, that would also mean copying home to the removable media via the command line. Pretty tough stuff for a beginner like me.
[15:33] <jami> rocklobster
[15:33] <martianlobster> LjL ok thanks
[15:33] <LjL> natrixnatrix89, i don't really remember these details
[15:34] <Netbookremix> hi guys, could anyone help me how to stop oo from autocompleting my numbers to dates?
[15:34] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: Ok. then how do I see what information is it sending?
[15:34] <dlublink> Any KDE users in here ?
[15:34] <isolat3dsh33p> dlublink, try #kubuntu
[15:34] <dlublink> thanks
[15:35] <trism> martianlobster: on their site, they have a jar file for linux, so you could just download that and install java, then java -jar file.jar (and create a link for that)
[15:35] <Talon_> that will work right? and achieve what I want if I login as root?
[15:35] <jami> Netbookremix: http://nowacki.org/blog/2004/05/disable_autocomplete_in_openoffice.html
[15:35] <martianlobster> thanks
[15:35] <dlublink> Any Gnome users here who have used KDE but prefer Gnome? If so, why do you prefer Gnome ?
[15:35] <LjL> SaintSapp: you can use grep... but what do you mean by "integer"? you can give grep a hex value, i suppose
[15:35] <oCean_> Talon_: that option is not supported in this channel.
[15:36] <LjL> !ot | dlublink
[15:36] <Talon_> obviously.. but i didnt ask if you supported it, i asked if it would work
[15:36] <dlublink> :P
[15:36] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: yeah, I don't know.  I run with a separate partition for /home, which works for me.  You should be able to just reinstall over the install, and it won't overwrite your /home, but that is risky
[15:37] <ouyes> what is the grammer of text in conky setup?
[15:37] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: I just connected to /dev/ttyUSB0, but all I see is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/358082/
[15:37] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I'm going to back the home folder up to a DVD-R and then download Karmic and burn the image to a disk. I want to upgrade to a 64-bit OS anyway so upgrading one distro at a time seems retarded.
[15:37] <mustafa> Hello , i am using ubuntu 9 and after 1 day of idle my gnome gui hangs and i have to power off the machine and reboot it , is there a fix for it ? or i can restart it from terminal?
[15:37] <dupondje> hellow :) i'm using audacious, and playing music from a samba mount, but it seems like it gives 'clicks' sometimes
[15:38] <dupondje> any idea what could be the reason ?
[15:38] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, how to I know whether my PC wil support a 64-bit OS?
[15:38] <ChogyDan> yeah, fwiw, if you waited till 10.04 was released, you would have been able to go straight from 8.04->10.04
[15:38] <airstrike> dupondje: 9.10?
[15:38] <LjL> natrixnatrix89, well, i don't think i can help you further... all i can say is try playing with minicom settings (search for RTS/CTS, for one, and try activating or deactivating it), also find out what speed the port is running at, and see if anything ever shows up.
[15:38] <dupondje> airstrike: yep
[15:38] <martianlobster> trism, thanks
[15:38] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, did you try upgrading from a x86 version to amd64 version?
[15:38] <ouyes> i need to add the speed of  eth0 and wlan0 to show a total downspeed and upspeed of my network
[15:39] <natrixnatrix89> LjL: really thanks for your help!
[15:39] <airstrike> dupondje: sound problems in 9.10 are a buck a dozen, usually due to pulseaudio. i have no experience with this though, as it hasn't affected me at all (but i hear a lot of people complaining about that)
[15:39] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: what processor?   Allot of them now adays support it.
[15:39] <SealedWithAKiss> isolat3dsh33p, nahh I didn't I upgraded a x86 with x86.
[15:39] <Netbookremix> thanks!!
[15:39] <jami> dupondje: i have bad cifs experiences too
[15:39] <VCoolio> someone know a place to get supercat config lines, or care to share his/hers? Eg for bash files
[15:39] <dupondje> seems not a sound problem
[15:39] <dupondje> more cifs problem indeed
[15:40] <SimSimma> Hey I have a problem with my "." in my "./" it
[15:40] <SimSimma>  not being recognized
[15:40] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, just do the back up and perform a new install then, I guess. :(
[15:40] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, Intel Core Duo E4700 @ 2.6Ghz - will it suport a 64-bit OS?
[15:40] <SealedWithAKiss> isolat3dsh33p, I'm gonna yeah.
[15:40] <ChogyDan> ya
[15:40] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, are you sure?
[15:41] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: I will vouch for him.
[15:41] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: I thought all the core duos were 64bit capable
[15:41] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I haven't got a clue. I don't know much about CPUs.
[15:41] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: Are you using Ubuntu right now?
[15:41] <jami> dupondje: yes
[15:41] <SealedWithAKiss> kinja-sheep, thanks.
[15:41] <isolat3dsh33p> SealedWithAKiss, good luck. :)
[15:42] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: Try "lscpu" in the terminal
[15:42] <bio-tty> is there a package or other way where i get bzip2 and gzip statically linked?
[15:42] <SealedWithAKiss> kinja-sheep, nahh I'm in Vista. I tried upgrading Hardy to Intrepid. I was trying to get to Karmic. The installation completed, but now the GUI wont start.
[15:42] <jami> dupondje: in my case the access is blocked for a some ms
[15:42] <kinja-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: oh alright. :)
[15:42] <dupondje> jami: no fixes or bugreports of it ?
[15:42] <Maletor> How do I boot my computer into command line // not have gdm start when I boot up. I think I need to delete xorg.conf
[15:42] <VCoolio> Maletor: edit grub
[15:42] <SealedWithAKiss> kinja-sheep, so you're also saying Core Duo's support 64-bit OSs?
[15:42] <jami> dupondje: nfs :)
[15:43] <dupondje> jami: hard with a winblows box ;)
[15:43] <Tuxguy> Anyone use lmms? I dont ever hear anything out of my speaekers
[15:43] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I always thought that you needed an AMD CPU to use 64-bit software.
[15:43] <bio-tty> question -- is there a package or other way where i get bzip2 and gzip statically linked?
[15:43] <VCoolio> Maletor: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" then add "text" to line 9 "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"" then "sudo update-grub"
[15:44] <dupondje> D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on '***', 0 bytes in queue.
[15:44] <dupondje> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
[15:44] <dupondje> its really fucked :P
[15:44] <FloodBot3> dupondje: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, or a 64bit intel processor
[15:44] <Maletor> VCoolio: When I start up my computer it loads the Ubuntu logo fine, but when it tries to go to the login screen it comes up "Not Supported" on my TV
[15:44] <Maletor> It worked fine on my 768p TV now it's on 1080p and won't work
[15:44] <gone> #ubuntu-cz
[15:44] <oCean_> dupondje: mind your language please, in this channel
[15:44] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: no no, that was awhile ago.  AMD and Intel had competing 64bits, and Intel lost.  Now all modern CPUs support AMDs version of 64bit
[15:44] <RealLife> I just installed ( atleast I think I did ) ubuntu 8.04 lts using wubi now where do I run it?
[15:44] <kitche> !language > dupondje
[15:44] <Guest50137> joint / hardware
[15:44] <Guest50137> join /hardware
[15:44] <Guest50137> sorry
[15:45] <VCoolio> Maletor: no idea on using tv's, sorry; above is how to get cli, that's all I have
[15:45] <jami> dupondje: full ack. A latence timeout is ok but this fuu.. reaking driver blocks the io
[15:45] <Maletor> But I can't get command line. When I start up there is no where to write sudo nano...
[15:46] <safoo> #perl
[15:46] <fctest> woop woop my irc client displays all 1000 and something users
[15:46] <VCoolio> Maletor: karmic? or earlier?
[15:46] <Maletor> 9.10
[15:46] <Guest50137> i have a laptop connected to wireless and i want it to give a signal to a ethernet cord how can i do this?
[15:46] <RealLife> help me please oh please
[15:46] <RealLife> ^_^
[15:46] <natrixnatrix89> Maletor: What if you press esc when booting (when it reaches grub) and if then you select an older kernel?
[15:46] <VCoolio> Maletor: ok, press left shift while booting, it will give you the grub menu and you can choose terminal boot
[15:47] <kinja-sheep> RealLife: Reboot. Select Ubuntu.
[15:47] <mustafa> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:47] <jami> Guest50137: ifup the device. man ifup/ifconfig
[15:47] <Maletor> All I have is memory test and 2.6.31-17 recovery mode
[15:47] <Maletor> no terminal boot...
[15:48] <natrixnatrix89> Maletor. look at the bottom side
[15:48] <natrixnatrix89> and there is a letter written you have to press
[15:48] <Maletor> should I hit e and then write sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:48] <RealLife> kinja-sheep: I did reboot but the setup didn't continue
[15:48] <natrixnatrix89> to get terminal..
[15:48] <trism> VCoolio: don't know about supercat, but highlight handles bash files and tons of other types (highlight -A file; need to include -S type if not a known extension)
[15:48] <Maletor> c says command line do I want that?
[15:48] <RealLife> it isnt duel boot, its ubuntu under windoze
[15:48] <natrixnatrix89> Maletor I guess so..
[15:49] <Maletor> I can't do anything with that bash -- it's too minimal
[15:49] <RealLife> http://gnome-look.org
[15:49] <Maletor> can't su myuser can't get nano
[15:49] <Maletor> can't pwd
[15:49] <RealLife> Themes for Ubuntu!!!111
[15:49] <RealLife> keke
[15:50] <luigi> ciao a tutti
[15:50] <oCean_> RealLife: wubi installation will continue for 10 to 15 minutes and the machine will reboot again. This is it. Now you can select Ubuntu at the boot screen and start using it.
[15:50] <RealLife> aww
[15:50] <RealLife> nothing like that happened
[15:50] <dupondje> jami: you know if there is a bugreport about this issue ?
[15:50] <edbian> Is there a way to get two rows of the windows list applet similar to a taller start bar in windows xp??
[15:50] <RealLife> there is a ubuntu folder in c:
[15:50] <luigi> non riesco a trovare il wifi x ubuntu ho un acer aspire one chi mi puo aiutare???
[15:50] <RealLife> and inside /ubuntu there is install
[15:50] <oCean_> !it | luigi
[15:50] <VCoolio> trism: installing, thanks for the tip
[15:50] <setuid> I've got a backup drive that is luks-encrypted, and when I plug it into my Ubuntu build, it prompts me for the password. I give it that password, and it says it can't mount it. How do I mount this?
[15:50] <ChogyDan> edbian: you mean in the bottom panel?
[15:51] <edbian> ChogyDan, I don't care what panel I do it with.  But yeah sure, in the bottom panel
[15:51] <ChogyDan> edbian: well, I get 2 rows at 50 pixels
[15:52] <edbian> ChogyDan, Indeed!  Thanks!  I didn't expect it to be that easy :)
[15:52] <lmh1> hi, how can i change MBR on ultimate edition?
[15:52] <ChogyDan> np
[15:52] <Maletor> How do I delete my xorg.conf and auto generate a new one?
[15:52] <RealLife> how do u spell querry?
[15:52] <setuid> query
[15:53] <RealLife> ty
[15:53] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, when I boot the CD and it comes to partitioning, how will write the new OS over the existing one?
[15:53] <client> cok
[15:53] <jami> dupondje: nothing useable
[15:54] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I don't wanna screw up my Vista partition.
[15:54] <lmh1> I have tryed gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst in console but get empty page?
[15:54] <oCean_> RealLife: wubi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[15:54] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: what is your partition makeup?  You want to select manual partitioning and reuse all of them
[15:54] <RealLife> oh
[15:54] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, you might want to try wubi, it will install ubuntu as a windows app and not write anything to the boot parts of your disk
[15:54] <Maletor> How do I auto generate a new xorg.conf is it nvidia-settings or something like that?
[15:55] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, that's a VM right?
[15:55] <LizardK|ng> oh, you already have an install to overright
[15:55] <ZykoticK9> Maletor, nvidia-xconfig
[15:55] <ultimate-> Quick Question , my gnome gui hangs after 1 day of idle i can restart it from terminal only way is to reboot the pc any fix for this?
[15:55] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, no, not a vm, just uses windows boot stuff to boot ubuntu from ntfs
[15:55] <Maletor> ZykoticK9: and that will generate a xorg.conf file for me?
[15:55] <SealedWithAKiss> ChogyDan, I have a 250GB Vista partition and an 80GB Ubuntu partition.
[15:55] <RealLife> oCean_: I must have forgotten to say Install Ubuntu at boot up. Can I still restart it?
[15:55] <bastid_raZor> !ultimate | ultimate-
[15:55] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, its a bit slower with I/O and you can't hibernate
[15:55] <jami> dupondje: i decided to reformat my data stuff to ext4 and keep m$ as blob in a vm
[15:55] <ZykoticK9> Maletor, you but you'll have to use "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[15:56] <toman> someone who know how to install benq 5000 scanner under ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:56] <ChogyDan> SealedWithAKiss: in the manual part, just set the ubuntu partition as /
[15:56] <oCean_> RealLife: aha. Ehm, I'm not sure how to restart it....
[15:56] <RealLife> :<
[15:56] <ultimate-> bastid_raZor : i didnt get that it means no support for gnome here right?
[15:57] <bastid_raZor> ultimate-: it means no support for ultimate. ##gnome is for gnome support
[15:57] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, portable ubuntu us more a windowless vm -type setup
[15:58] <dinosaurvskitten> has anyone tried to use ttf-inconsolata with urxvt? I'm getting insanely large spaces between characters and I'm wondering if it's normal: http://imagebin.org/80341 (the terminal with vim, top right)
[15:58] <RealLife> I want to install ubuntu with KDE (compiz?) for a friend of mine, we both don't know much about linux, but If I buy the books can I make the pc's run smoothly without him having to learn how to use Linux too?
[15:59] <bastid_raZor> RealLife: that is like saying i want to drive my car without learning how to drive.
[15:59] <jami> RealLife: which books you want to buy
[16:00] <RealLife> second
[16:00] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, I just remembered something. When I first installed Ubuntu, I had to use a a special version of the OS that had the drivers for my motherboard. This was ages ago though when my PC was new, I wont have that problem now with Karmic will I?
[16:00] <RealLife> Beginning Ubuntu Linux, Third Edition - Ubuntu Kung Fu
[16:00] <tony__> anyone know the recommened specs for youtube hd videos? i'm on a xp3200 x65 cpu w/ 2gigs ram and 6800gt and getting choppy videos in chrome and firefox
[16:00] <RealLife> that is after I finished with Ubuntu Pocket guide
[16:00] <jami> bastid_raZor: this comparison is to hard :)
[16:01] <dinosaurvskitten> tony__, haha, flash on linux
[16:01] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, i have no idea, but i would say probably not; try wubi, if it doesn't boot, you can just uninstall; if it does boot, you can reinstall as a dual boot
[16:01] <dinosaurvskitten> tony__, funny one
[16:01] <RealLife> bastid_raZor: no no ur wrong
[16:01] <dinosaurvskitten> tony__, your best  bet is to pause the flash player and view the video directly (/tmp/Flash*) with mplayer
[16:01] <HeaVenGh0st> how long would it take to install ubuntu in xp with wubi?
[16:01] <SimSimma> Flash for linux sucks, sorry wait till they implement HTML5
[16:01] <tony__> anyone else with a better machine or roughly same specs have that problem? i'm knew to ubuntu
[16:01] <RealLife> bastid_raZor: people are able to use windoze without much effort I just want to give them that privelage using linux, U guys with this ignorant aproach to linux is who is giving it a bad image
[16:01] <bastid_raZor> RealLife: using linux is no simple and easy task. some learning is required.
[16:01] <tony__> thanks guys
[16:02] <Tuxguy> Does linux support audio out on hdmi?
[16:02] <RealLife> i want to set everything up for him
[16:02] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, I'm in wubi now.
[16:02] <llutz> bastid_raZor: using linux is simple, but you need one to administrate it
[16:02] <dinosaurvskitten> SimSimma, well, html5 still leaves us with the problem of not having a decent browser plugin for players (last I checked - I'd be glad if you proved me wrong)
[16:02] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, It wants to install on the C: drive.
[16:02] <{chmod}755> Linux is simple enough. Ubuntu and Linux Mint have virtually no learning curve, IMHO.
[16:03] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, is this completely reversible?
[16:03] <alfie[iv]> yes
[16:03] <tony__> anyone know a way to change the mouse scroll wheel speed? or just in chrome itself?
[16:03] <ZykoticK9> Tuxguy, Yes.  But i get the impression it can be tricky - I've don't have anything with HDMI audio so I've never tried.  Good luck.
[16:03] <dinosaurvskitten> SimSimma, I tried both mozilla-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer, both of which worked horrendously badly
[16:04] <SimSimma> Sorry, I dont use browser plugins.
[16:04] <RealLife> {chmod}755:  that is exactly what I want to do for my "people" ^_^ I dont want to administrate their windoze pc's (antivirus etc etc) - I will rather do it the legal way  using linux
[16:04] <SimSimma> minus when Totem randomly pops up
[16:04]  * HeaVenGh0st How long would it take to install ubuntu in xp with wubi?
[16:04] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, completely, it makes a file on your windows partition to use as a root disk in ubuntu
[16:04] <pasjr> Dose any one know if I change the max_temp in Config Editor will the fan respond accordingly
[16:04] <LizardK|ng> HeaVenGh0st, depends if you need the iso, but about an hour
[16:04] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, how long does the installation take?
[16:05] <{chmod}755> RealLife, do they have any knowledge of Linux?
[16:05] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, if you already have the iso, about an hour
[16:05] <RealLife> HeaVenGh0st: I was just installing ubuntu using wubi myself :) It doesnt take long at all. here is the guide(someone else just gave it to me ^_^) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[16:05] <RealLife> {chmod}755: nope! haha
[16:05] <blue112> Hello here. I'm having trouble while running gtkpod, it says "Assertion 'pthread_setspecific(t->key, userdata) == 0' failed at pulsecore/thread-posix.c:200, function pa_tls_set(). Aborting."... I've tried with the lastest git of this program it does the same... What should I do ?
[16:05] <Crewsr3> I added a process to the "Startup Applications" program.  It is starting to fast and would like to tell it to sleep for 9 seconds before start.  I tried putting this in  the command "sleep 9 && /usr/bin/process" but it is gone the next time I login
[16:05] <slivershadow> hello
[16:06] <bastid_raZor> RealLife: the kung fu guide you spoke is a great guide. that guide will greatly increase your abilities in ubuntu
[16:06] <edgy360> hello silvershadow
[16:06] <edbian> Crewsr3, Make a script and tell the script to run in the start up apps.  Do you know how to do that?
[16:06] <RealLife> bastid_raZor: thanks ^_^ I heard about the book from someone here in this very chatroom (whoever u are : Thanks ^_^)
[16:06] <oCean_> RealLife: get your free download of ubuntu pocketguide here: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html and see how easy-to-use it really is
[16:06] <{chmod}755> RealLife, I find it very, very irresponsible to install a Linux system on someone else's machine if they have no knowledge of Linux. We had a guy in #Linux the night before last who did the same thing, he was the admin, and was trying to make fun of his user because he kept getting frustrated with Linux. That's seriously uncool.
[16:06] <Linuxnoob> hello
[16:07] <{chmod}755> !hi | linuxnoob
[16:07] <edbian> Linuxnoob, hi
[16:07] <blue112> ^^
[16:07] <slivershadow> where are you from?
[16:07] <Crewsr3> I read about it edbian.  I guess I don't understand why I can just put it in like the "sleep 9 && process"
[16:07] <Linuxnoob> i got probs booting my ubuntu 9.10 live CD
[16:07] <blue112> Am I in the good channel for my question ?
[16:07] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, do you have Linux installed on your system?
[16:07] <jami> {chmod}755: Linux is simple enough? What in the driver and kernelspace exactly is simple.
[16:07] <pasjr> Dose any one know if I change the max_temp in Config Editor will the fan respond accordingly
[16:07] <omar> Hi everyone
[16:07] <Crewsr3> edbian, why does startup application delete the sleep aspect of the command
[16:07] <oCean_> slivershadow: this is ubuntu support, not chat
[16:07] <edbian> Crewsr3, I don't really understand that either.
[16:07] <Linuxnoob> don't know, i DLoaded the file from ubuntu.com and burned it to a cd
[16:08] <slivershadow> sorry
[16:08] <Linuxnoob> mounted cd with daemon tools and installed the including program
[16:08] <{chmod}755> jami, Are we going to turn this into a philosophical debate about easy?
[16:08] <Linuxnoob> restarted computer
[16:08]  * HeaVenGh0st I am entered into the ubuntu GUI first time after insatlling some files throu wubi rebooted the system and now it says partions formatting?
[16:08] <Linuxnoob> and i can choose ubuntu or windows
[16:08] <Linuxnoob> i choose ubuntu
[16:08] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, you do know that the file you downloaded is an ISO and it needs to be mounted on a CD
[16:08]  * HeaVenGh0st what does that mean? my xp would be deleted?
[16:08] <Crewsr3> edbian, I guess I will set up the script, thanks I thought I would ask in case there is a way to put this the command into the Startup Applications
[16:08] <Linuxnoob> y i got it on a cd
[16:08] <omar> I have a problem with my Logitech E2500 webcam on Ubuntu 9.10: when I use it the image is too dark, I cant even see it, can somebody help me?
[16:09] <bullgard> man gdb: "... SEE ALSO: `gdb' entry in info. ...' What is meant here by 'info'?
[16:09] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, In other words, you did not just burn it to the CD like a regular data disc. You DID mount the image on the disc?
[16:09] <oCean_> Linuxnoob: could you try to keep your description in a single line please? That's a lot easier to follow
[16:09] <Linuxnoob> i get error while loading ubuntu on startup
[16:09] <edbian> Crewsr3, Yeah, I'm pretty confident that the script will work.  It is odd.  I wish I knew why it did that too
[16:09] <Linuxnoob> ok
[16:09] <RealLife> ocean_: rofl I alreaddy downloaded that guide and made someone print it and bind it into a book :D http://www.imagehost.co.za/share-B534_4B533636.html
[16:09] <Linuxnoob> it sais "Can't open /dev/sr0...
[16:09] <edbian> {chmod}755, He must have or it would never have booted
[16:09] <blue112> Hum... I'm having trouble while running gtkpod, it says "Assertion 'pthread_setspecific(t->key, userdata) == 0' failed at pulsecore/thread-posix.c:200, function pa_tls_set(). Aborting."... I've tried with the lastest git of this program it does the same... What should I do ? Am I in the good channel to ask this ?
[16:09] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, So when you boot you see a screen that asks you to choose your Windows partition or your Ubuntu partition?
[16:10] <oCean_> RealLife: sweet :)
[16:10] <airstrike> Linuxnoob: there might be a problem with the media itself. try burning to a different cd or possibly download it again
[16:10] <{chmod}755> edbian, I can't determine if he's trying to mount off daemon tools or what. =(
[16:10] <Linuxnoob> ok i take it from step 1, in a single post this time :)
[16:10] <HeaVenGh0st> What does installing the system means if enter ubuntu GUI for the first time
[16:10] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, Thank you very much. =)
[16:11] <actionParsnip__> Is there a way to restore the KDE bottom bar? Mine is missing.
[16:11] <adversarian> Hello everyone. Anyone free to help a newbie?
[16:11] <{chmod}755> !ask | adversarian
[16:11] <omar> I have a problem with my Logitech E2500 webcam on Ubuntu 9.10: when I use it the image is too dark, I cant even see it, can somebody help me?
[16:11] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how do i install SDL??
[16:11] <oCean_> Linuxnoob: don't forget to checksum your download. - just to make sure your download is 100%  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[16:11] <{chmod}755> adversarian, Do you have Linux on your system?
[16:11] <RealLife> {chmod}755: I will only install ubuntu with the guy's consent
[16:12] <{chmod}755> RealLife, don't be afraid to extend a bit of education about it before you leave him alone with it to. Thank you very much for your consideration. =)
[16:12] <didiermah> !french
[16:12] <actionParsnip__> omar: run: lsusb     websearch for the 8 character ID
[16:12] <adversarian> I'm on an XP laptop right now, but I have an old tower that I'm trying to install ubuntu on (9.10). It installed fine last night, but now, it won't boot. It gets past GRUB fine, but it freezes on the logo screen. Doesn't get past it.
[16:12] <RealLife> {chmod}755: i hate going to people's pcs and having to 'fix it' but all i ever end up doing is: installing cracked antivirus. Done :(
[16:12] <omar> ok
[16:13] <adversarian> I have NO idea what's wrong. I tried to reinstall from the CD and it froze when I chose "Install Ubuntu".
[16:13] <actionParsnip__> RealLife: wy not just install a free AV instead of a cracked one?
[16:13] <Linuxnoob> first i read on some forums what dist seemed best for me, and i found that i wanted to try ubuntu so i downloaded the .ISO file from ubuntu.com and burned it to a CD, then i reeboted and nothing happend so i tried to mount it with Daemon tools. and then a program appeared on my screen that told me to either install ubutnu or something so i installed the program, it tells me to reboot so i did... no results so i tried to reebot 
[16:13] <Linuxnoob> cant get more, need 1 more line xD
[16:13] <RealLife> {chmod}755:  I understand what you say. I always make videos for my friends etc *(Using camtasia studio)* so that they can fix the stuff themselves in the future, or just review what I did on their computers..
[16:13] <bastid_raZor> RealLife: be sure to install openssh-server so you can ssh in and do updates remotely..  the ubuntupocketguide tells a bit about ssh
[16:13] <{chmod}755> RealLife, I understand and I appreciate, like the rest of the Linux community, that you're advocating Linux so much, especially to new users. But uneducated users become frustrated and do more harm than good to our community.
[16:13] <actionParsnip__> adversarian: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run the CD verifier?
[16:13] <pasjr> is there any linux gurus in here
[16:13] <omar> actionParsnip_ the ID is 046d:089d
[16:13] <actionParsnip__> pasjr: just ask your question
[16:13] <jami> Linuxnoob: you should install ubuntu on disk
[16:14] <actionParsnip__> omar: then websearch that, you will find guides
[16:14] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, That's the issue! You're using daemontools to mount the disc.
[16:14] <Sandy___> Hi ALL
[16:14] <Linuxnoob> then i got to the screen where i could choose ubuntu or windows xp professional... i choose ubuntu and see the ubuntu icon on my screen for a long while, then it turns all black and when i press error i get lots of lines saying...
[16:14] <RealLife> {chmod}755:  I agree with that statement 100% I see alot of people who hate ubuntu because someone just installed it and left xD
[16:14] <Linuxnoob> what shall i just uninstall the program?
[16:14] <pasjr> I have to the first is if I change max temp in Config editor will the fan act accordingly
[16:14] <Linuxnoob> and reboot?
[16:14] <omar> Thans a lot for the help, really appreciate it
[16:14] <{chmod}755> RealLife, Good man
[16:14] <Linuxnoob> cus my computer doesnt find the cd
[16:14] <adversarian> Hmm, I think I might've missed that. Would it have installed fine (it booted after the installation fine, too) if the ISO had been incorrect? Instead of shutting down the ubuntu computer I also hibernated it, so I'm wondering if that screwed something up.
[16:15] <pasjr> the second is any one know anthing about acpitool -W
[16:15] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, no - just burn the CD correctly. Give me a second? I'll send you a link...
[16:15] <Sandy___> my system restarts when trying to boot from ububt live CD. Can anyone help?
[16:15] <Linuxnoob> do u think it would work to save the file on my external hard drive?
[16:15] <actionParsnip__> Linuxnoob: then boot to recovery root console and edit the boot so the stupid splash screen doesnt show so you can see the bootup text
[16:15] <dupondje> jami: trying to debug a bit with wireshark, but it seems all correct
[16:15] <dupondje> all normal responses :s
[16:15] <Sandy___> my system restarts when trying to boot from ubuntu live CD. Can anyone help?
[16:15] <elvios> ubuntu
[16:15] <Linuxnoob> actionParsnip__: ?
[16:15] <jami> adversarian: as long as your swap device is bigger than your memory, yes
[16:15] <actionParsnip__> adversarian: if you dont use it how do you know the CD you have is complete and error free?
[16:16] <RealLife> {chmod}755:  I won't make anyone spite the day they installed ubuntu :) Thanks for your help and ty too bastid_raZor for that last piece of information, I will remember it!
[16:16] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/ht/burnisofile.htm - follow the directions here to burn your ISO to disc.
[16:16] <Sandy___> my system restarts when trying to boot from ubuntu live CD. Can anyone help?
[16:16] <dupondje> jami: Time from request: 0.218262000 seconds
[16:16] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, I rebooted and selected Ubuntu. Then the screen went blank, and gave me an error message about NTFS. I think it's because I didn't shut down properly, or because NTFS needs checking.
[16:16] <dupondje> seems only difference
[16:16] <Linuxnoob> can't i burn ISO with NERO 9?
[16:17] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, I don't use Nero so I don't know.
[16:17] <bastid_raZor> Linuxnoob: yes, burn with the slowest possible speed .. 2x or 4x is best
[16:17] <edbian> Sandy___, You are too vague.  Are there errors of any kind?  At what point does it reboot?
[16:17] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, reboot into windows and shut down properly :)
[16:17] <erUSUL> !burning | Linuxnoob
[16:17] <Sandy___> edbian.... it reboots as soon i chose to run linux without installing
[16:17] <adversarian> I don't know if it's complete and error free. I'm going to burn a new disc and check with that test, I just wanted to know more about possible factors
[16:17] <LizardK|ng> brasero only lets me burn at one speed
[16:18] <HeaVenGh0st> !ubuntu | HeaVenGh0st
[16:18] <{chmod}755> adversarian, anytime you burn an ISO check it with the checksum.
[16:18] <edbian> Sandy___, What do the other options do?
[16:18] <adversarian> I'll go do that. I'll be back if I still have problems. Thanks!
[16:18] <failss56ydty> ffffffffffffff
[16:18] <{chmod}755> adversarian, good luck!
[16:18] <failss56ydty> ps, ubuntu sux
[16:19] <Linuxnoob> and another question while installing burner program
[16:19] <Sandy___> i have not tried as I do not have sapce to install it. But this options used to work till few days back.
[16:19] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, shoot bud
[16:19] <arek> ?
[16:19] <Linuxnoob> is it possible to get virus/how much protection will i need?
[16:19] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, don't need to worry about that.
[16:19] <edbian> Sandy___, I bet sometimes wrong with the CD.  Scratched or something
[16:19] <blue112> Hum... I'm having trouble while running gtkpod, it says "Assertion 'pthread_setspecific(t->key, userdata) == 0' failed at pulsecore/thread-posix.c:200, function pa_tls_set(). Aborting."... I've tried with the lastest git of this program it does the same... What should I do ? Am I in the good channel to ask this ?
[16:19] <erUSUL> !av | Linuxnoob
[16:19] <edbian> Linuxnoob, :)  You have to worry far less about viruses when using linux
[16:20] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, viruses are virtually nonexistant for Linux. Further, you don't need to concern yourself with disc defragmentation as well.
[16:20] <Linuxnoob> yeah i've heard that but i didnt know if it was only rumors
[16:20] <Akkernight> I'm trying to get LAN network working between my Win7 and my Ubuntu, I have got smbfs, but the computers only find each other through wireless, why?
[16:20] <__raven> which tool like unison can IMMEDIATELY synchronize folders on two pcs?
[16:20] <edbian> Linuxnoob, Read the page ubottu gave and decide for yourself
[16:20] <Sandy___> no edbian... the same CD is working in my frends system....also there is another issue to it
[16:20] <jami> dupondje: with wireshark? I guess the protocol flow on the samba share is well. But the local driver blocks for some reasons i dont know
[16:20] <edbian> Sandy___, What is the second issue?
[16:21] <edbian> Sandy___, Is windows xp installed on this system?
[16:21] <x_> a
[16:21] <jami> __raven: rsync
[16:21] <Sandy___> yes...XP sp2 is isntalled
[16:21] <dupondje> jami: it lagged after the out-of-range reponse time :)
[16:21] <dupondje> changed rsize now, lets see what that does
[16:21] <lethliel> Akkernight have you tried a ping in both ways?
[16:21] <Sandy___> also my XP had staring behaing weird ...
[16:21] <edbian> Sandy___, Could you please start your posts with my name like I am doing for you?  It will highlight them for me if you do
[16:21] <Sandy___> it use to resatrt while showing the splash screen
[16:21] <__raven> jami can i configure that it updates in both directions?
[16:22] <Linuxnoob> how does it work with games? do i have to reDL my games in linux files or is it enough with wine?
[16:22] <edbian> Sandy___, I suspect bad hardware somewhere because both operating systems are malfunctioning in strange ways.  Check your ram!  Can you use the memtest option on the Ubuntu CD?  It will check your ram
[16:22] <Sandy___> sure
[16:22] <edbian> Sandy___, It will take a long time to run
[16:22] <edbian> Sandy___, Especially if you have a lot of ram
[16:23] <lethliel> Linuxnoob a lot of games can be player with wine. You can check the APP-DB on www.winehq.org.
[16:23] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, This is a good question. Some games have linux versions on their discs, like Neverwinter Nights (big fan) and installing is easy.
[16:23] <bitmonk> anyone know if something changed in the past few days in karmic xorg?  all of a sudden the resolutions for my SGI panel are off and I can only do 4:3 or 3:2, the latter of which is too wide and sends the far right of my screen into oblivion..
[16:23] <manuel_> hi
[16:23] <bullgard> man gdb: "... SEE ALSO: `gdb' entry in info. ...' What is meant here by 'info'?
[16:23] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, others will require Wine and some won't work at all. However, the Linux community has a HUGE collection of free games for you.
[16:23] <{chmod}755> !hi | manuel_
[16:23] <manuel_> how can i do a cd in a dialog shell scripot
[16:24] <Akkernight> lethliel: how do I check the ipaddress on ubuntu, like ipconfig on windows?
[16:24] <{chmod}755> manuel_, burn a cd in shell?
[16:24] <Nordmoen> could anyone help me with eclipse and dropins? it seems like eclipse doesn't load the dropins at all, but debug doesn't tell me anything
[16:24] <Jeruvy> bullgard: info is a tool to read documentation.
[16:24] <Linuxnoob> i've seen downloads on games like WoW and HoN in Linux files
[16:24] <laserjet> hi folks. I seem to be having dev permission problems. If I try to run alasmixer I get can't open deivce, but if I sudo it it works no problem, where have I gone wrong?
[16:24] <manuel_> no the command change dir in a dialgo script
[16:24] <lethliel> Akkernight open a terminal. Type "sudo ifconfig"
[16:24] <Linuxnoob> i hope it's not neccesery to download wow in linux format cus its a big game
[16:24] <manuel_> http://pastebin.com/m52316794
[16:25] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, Yeah, a lot of games have linux versions. And you will need to redl WoW in Linux format.
[16:25] <aar> Hi, I've been getting a note from Opera recommending a software update for the last 2 months or so. The version in the respositories is still the old one. Am I missing important security updates by sticking to the repository version? (Kubuntu 8.04, Opera 9.80))
[16:25] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, .exe files do not work in Linux (unless you use some... cheats)
[16:25] <Linuxnoob> cheats?
[16:25] <manuel_> Linuxnoob, there is no wow in linux format you can dl the windows version and use wine to play it
[16:25] <jami> __raven: for that task you must do a little bit more
[16:25] <Linuxnoob> puh
[16:25] <__raven> jami, ?
[16:25] <Linuxnoob> its a big game :P
[16:25] <{chmod}755> manuel_, thanks for the correct. I don't play wow
[16:25] <jami> __raven: http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg12370.html
[16:26] <lethliel> linuxnoob yeah use wine. It is easy and WoW runs very good
[16:26] <Akkernight> lethliel: ok, eth0 shows some stuff, but I noticed only IPvP6 is there not IPvP4...
[16:26] <__raven> jami anything simple?
[16:26] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, Wine or shell commands to convert formats. (I've seen it done!)
[16:26] <bullgard> Jeruvy: A "tool" is a program, right? How can I install it? And how can I call it?
[16:26] <manuel_> Linuxnoob, wine
[16:26] <{chmod}755> !wine | linuxnoob
[16:26] <LjL> Linuxnoob, Linux and Windows are two different operating systems. the programs they run are entirely different, it's not just a question of "format". the only thing is that some Windows program can be run in a Windows emulator, WINE, but don't expect them all to work there.
[16:26] <Linuxnoob> what does wine do, exactly, does it just make the .exe files executable?
[16:26] <Jeruvy> bullgard: it is part of your core util's.  See 'man info' for details.
[16:26] <manuel_> is ist possible to do a "cd" command inside a dialog ?
[16:27] <Linuxnoob> <3 this channel :D
[16:27] <{chmod}755> No, it's a compatibility layer. It creates a virtual Windows environment in Linux.
[16:27] <manuel_> Linux70, its a wrapper for the windows commands
[16:27] <faheem> does WoW run well on WINE? i've tried WINE its not a very satisfactory emulator lol...
[16:27] <jami> __raven: it's a solution to precreate a tmp file list for the files
[16:27] <lethliel> Akkernight there is no entry in the inet Adress Part of the ifconfig output?
[16:27] <{chmod}755> faheem, I've heard it does.
[16:27] <Linuxnoob> you're right, i just checked wow's homesite and found that the download files is only for mac/windows :D
[16:27] <manuel_> faheem, wine has improved a lot
[16:27] <{chmod}755> faheem, it's not an emulator either. ;)
[16:27] <faheem> i'll try it out
[16:27]  * faheem shrugs
[16:27] <Akkernight> lethliel: there's inet6
[16:27] <faheem> its what i read in forums :P
[16:27] <soap> nautilus crashed and now my desktop is blank - no icons/shortcuts exist.  How do I fix this?  9.04.
[16:28] <{chmod}755> faheem, now you can set them straight. It's a compatibilty layer. Somewhere between a virtual machine and an emulator.
[16:28] <manuel_> restart nautilus
[16:28] <__raven> jami yes i thought unison would do it so but it takes an houre every scan!
[16:28]  * faheem nods... 
[16:28] <arand> Linuxnoob: wine is kind of a compability layer around applications, pretty much provides them with windows fluff to make them confortable.
[16:28] <faheem> i figured a virual machine and a emulator was the same to be honest lol..
[16:28] <{chmod}755> arand, that's deliciously insulting in a way. =)
[16:28] <Linuxnoob> and it works on most windows prog?
[16:28] <{chmod}755> faheem, No, not really. =P
[16:29] <lethliel> Akkernight then you have to set a IP Adress yourself: "ifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip mask mask.mask.mask"
[16:29] <aar> Hi, I've been getting a note from Opera recommending a software update for the last 2 months or so. The version in the respositories is still the old one. Am I missing important security updates by sticking to the repository version? (Kubuntu 8.04, Opera 9.80))
[16:29] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, in general.
[16:29] <manuel_> Linuxnoob, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17421
[16:29] <soap> manuel_, duh!  restarted it from the command line and all is fine!  launched it from the menu and only a file browser popped up.
[16:29] <SimSimma> Would anybody know why the '.' in "./" isnt being recognized ? I need major help, as it's not allowing me to compile
[16:29] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: I m installing ubuntu 9.04 now and its on the screen which says installing system (copying files = 73%) would I get normal ubuntu for use after this
[16:29] <Linuxnoob> what's the latest ubuntu verision?
[16:29] <hk_99> hey i cant get remote desktop to work in ubuntu 9.10, is this a known issue?
[16:29] <arand> Linuxnoob: works on quite a few, to a very varying degree.
[16:29] <jami> SimSimma: add execute flag
[16:30] <Akkernight> lethliel: it said "SIOCSIFADDR_ Invalid argument"
[16:30] <bullgard> Jeruvy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=info&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any: "You have searched for files named info in suite karmic, all sections, and all architectures. Found 102 results. Note: Your search was too wide so we will only display only the first about 100 matches. Please consider using a longer keyword or more keywords." --  Are you able...
[16:30] <{chmod}755> Linuxnoob, 9.10
[16:30] <bullgard> ...to tell me which one do you speak about?
[16:30] <manuel_> could somebody look at my pastebin to understand my problem cause explanation is difficult
[16:30] <manuel_> thanks
[16:30] <Linuxnoob> ok :)
[16:30] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, normal ubuntu?
[16:30] <Akkernight> lethliel: replace _ with :
[16:30] <jami> hk_99: you activated it on your computer?
[16:30] <Linuxnoob> why should i have such slow burning speed?
[16:30] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: is it normal.. i m installing it for the first time
[16:30] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, when install is done you'll reboot and remove the LiveCD. You'll then be booted into your new Ubuntu installation.
[16:30] <manuel_> http://pastebin.com/m52316794
[16:30] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, sounds like everything is going perfectly. =)
[16:30] <hk_99> jami no im trying to connect to our university server
[16:30] <lethliel> Akkernight what was the command you entered? You have to run it as root or with sudo
[16:31] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: ohh great! now it says creating user at 79%
[16:31] <Akkernight> lethliel: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.99 255.255.255.0
[16:31] <marouane> exit
[16:31] <marouane> \disconnect
[16:31] <lethliel> Akkernight sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.99 mask 255.255.255.0
[16:31] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, don't worry too much about that. There's a set step-by-step you have to follow when installing Linux by hand. The LiveCD installers emulate that.
[16:32] <jami> hk_99: then you using ts_client and choose the wrong protocol
[16:32] <Akkernight> lethliel: now it says "mask: Unknown host"
[16:32] <SimSimma> jami, Thanks I think that worked
[16:32] <hk_99> i tried several protocols on the terminal server client
[16:33] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: hmmm.. actually i am installing it thru WUBI inside the xp option.
[16:33] <Sandy___> #ubuntu-boot
[16:33] <lethliel> Akkernight sorry netmask not mask :)
[16:33] <SimSimma> jami, yes it did thanks
[16:33] <jami> hk_99: what should the wind0ws user for remote
[16:33] <jami> SimSimma: k
[16:33] <fluxw0rm> Which GDM file is used to specify which GDM theme you want to use located in /usr/share/gdm/themes?
[16:33] <jami> hk_99: what should the wind0ws user use for remote i ment
[16:34] <jami> as question
[16:34] <jami> baa
[16:34] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: it has already took more than half hour to install stuff.. any Idea how long would it take more?
[16:34] <manuel_> i
[16:34] <manuel_>  
[16:34] <manuel_> eingabe=$(cat $tempdatei)
[16:34] <manuel_>  
[16:34] <manuel_> #Auswerten
[16:34] <manuel_> #echo "Sie haben ausgewählt: $eingabe"
[16:34] <manuel_>  
[16:35] <manuel_> case $eingabe in
[16:35] <FloodBot3> manuel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:35] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: installing like does effect the performace of ubuntu or not?
[16:35] <jami> and its gone
[16:35] <bitmonk> hk_99: the item in default menus marked 'remote desktop' is not a windows rdp client, install 'rdesktop' and run that command with the hostname you want, e.g. 'rdesktop somewindows.uni.edu'
[16:35] <esprit> hi all
[16:36] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, sorry, I grabbed another cup of coffee.
[16:36] <dupondje> jami: did set rize to 124K, and didn't had any buffer error yet :)
[16:36] <{chmod}755> HeaVenGh0st, I've never installed Ubuntu like that so I don't know .
[16:36] <jami> bitmonk: hey vnc could also be a solution :-P
[16:36] <HeaVenGh0st> {chmod}755: thats alright.. thanks anyway
[16:36] <jami> dupondje: ok will try that thx
[16:36] <bitmonk> jami: vnc is what i think he's using, and probably not operated by the uni..
[16:37] <bitmonk> 'remote desktop viewer' in gnome is a vnc/ssh client.. not actually quite sure what it does over ssh, but it doesn't talk rdp..
[16:37] <Linuxnoob> omg
[16:37] <Akkernight> lethliel: still only inet6
[16:37] <jami> bitmonk: i have seen a lot on uni servers :D
[16:38] <lethliel> Akkernight can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[16:38] <bitmonk> sure jami, but, the most likely situation for all windows servers in the world is rdp, which shouldn't be the backseat choice esp since it's faster and lower bandwidth.
[16:39] <jami> bitmonk: k
[16:39] <esprit>  I'm trying to access windows directories from my ubuntu. Does anyone knows how to? When I try it ask for a password and username but when i set them reapears the same window again and again.
[16:39] <Jezz> Hi
[16:39] <{chmod}755> !hi | jezz
[16:39] <Jezz> why do the linux devs hate crt users?
[16:39] <stealyourface> esprit: set up the accounts on your windows box
[16:40] <Jezz> I can't change my refresh rate to 72hz on ubuntu
[16:40] <bitmonk> esprit: read up on basics of samba, you can use smbclient command to debug windows connections.  there are some windows server-side settings which can create compat issues, i think..
[16:40] <{chmod}755> Jezz, hey! We don't hate you. We're just not good friends. When's the last time you took me out to dinner?
[16:40] <dahlgren> Who do I talk to about upgrading the package for dokuwiki to a newer version?
[16:40] <hk_99> jami                  rdesktop ats.zdv.uni-mainz.de                              g ives me an internal licensing error
[16:40] <Jezz> hm
[16:40] <{chmod}755> dahlgren, Ubuntu has a brainstorm site now. You can do it there.
[16:40] <bitmonk> Jezz: nothing to do with the 'linux' devs hating anyone, probably has to do with your monitor supporting DDI or whatever properly..
[16:40] <dahlgren> {chmod}755: link?
[16:41] <{chmod}755> dahlgren, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[16:41] <Jezz> No I tried a lot of diffirent distro's
[16:41] <Akkernight> lethliel: no :S my linux has no internet
[16:41] <dahlgren> {chmod}755: thanks!
[16:41] <bitmonk> hk_99: maybe there are as many users connected as can be, or .. not sure.. not famil with that, but it's something you could hit your network support / admins about.
[16:41] <{chmod}755> dahlgren, no worries bud!
[16:41] <Jezz> on my laptop with a lcd screen 60 hz is fine, but on my desktop I have a crt and 60hz hurts my eyes
[16:41] <lethliel> Akkernight ok but the ifconfig eth0 command was successfull? No Error messages?
[16:41] <Akkernight> lethliel: aha! now I fixed it
[16:41] <blue112> Hum... I'm having trouble while running gtkpod, it says "Assertion 'pthread_setspecific(t->key, userdata) == 0' failed at pulsecore/thread-posix.c:200, function pa_tls_set(). Aborting."... I've tried with the lastest git of this program it does the same... What should I do ? Am I in the good channel to ask this ?
[16:42] <Jezz> Spent a week or something modifying xorg in every way but I think nvidia drive r overwrites it or something
[16:42] <{chmod}755> Later guys
[16:42] <lethliel> Akkernight Great :) What was the problem?
[16:42] <bitmonk> Jezz: sounds like the nvidia devs hate you ;)
[16:42] <Jezz> yeah lol
[16:42] <Akkernight> lethliel: so now ifconfig shows inet, but I still don't find the Win7 computer on the network...
[16:42] <jami> hk_99: rm ~/.rdesktop/license.<hostname>
[16:42] <Akkernight> lethliel: oh wait, I did :D
[16:42] <jami> hk_99: and try again
[16:43] <hk_99> jami ~ is for the path right?
[16:43] <bitmonk> jezz: just, btw, i picked up a 15" lcd recently for about $25, and some 20" for a friend and his kids for xmas for about $120/ea.  but, if your monitor supports 72 you should be able to get that.
[16:43] <adityag> i just installed AMP on ubuntu 9.10 but i am getting the following error " Not Found The requested URL /new/index.php/install/ was not found on this server."
[16:44] <jami> hk_99: ~/ is your home path
[16:44] <hk_99> oh ok
[16:44] <Jezz> yeah but I can't
[16:44] <lethliel> Akkernight :) great. if you want to save the configuration permanently you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces. Here is doc: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[16:44] <Linuxnoob> can some1 plz give me a working link to an iso burner?
[16:44] <Jezz> Also, CRT is superior in every way :p
[16:44] <schasch> hello, can I send a keyboard-combination to an application? like ctrl-w to the firefox? or something else?
[16:44] <Haxx> hey guys ^^
[16:45] <bitmonk> jezz: find me one that does HD color depth. ;)
[16:45] <bitmonk> anyway, what makes you think nvidia is 'overwriting' ?
[16:45] <LjL> !info xautomation | schasch
[16:45] <Linuxnoob> can some1 plz give me a working link to an iso burner?
[16:45] <jami> Linuxnoob: whats wrong with the standard burner
[16:45] <Haxx> Anyone know any decent games that ru under Ubuntu 9.04???
[16:45] <Linuxnoob> i've tried 2 and none of them work :S
[16:45] <Haxx> preferably mmorpgs
[16:45] <LjL> !games > Haxx    (Haxx, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:45] <hk_99> jami <hostname> would be the server?
[16:46] <schasch> LjL ubottu :thanks,i will look
[16:46] <Linuxnoob> 1 doesnt start/got .exe file and the other doesn't let me pick .ISO file -.-'
[16:46] <adityag> i just installed AMP on ubuntu 9.10 but i am getting the following error " Not Found The requested URL /new/index.php/install/ was not found on this server."
[16:46] <jami> hk_99: yep
[16:46] <adversarian> Hello. I'm back again. I checked the hash and checked the disc integrity (burned a new one), and that went fine. But when I load the LiveCD, choosing install or try without changing doesn't go anywhere. It just freezes after the logo glows for a few minutes.
[16:46] <TimeFX> I am having an extemely weird problem, I have a wlan card using the rt61 chipset driver and I ve noticed some sort of lag with my connection to my AP, I have an official access point and one in my room that I ve been using for testing. For some odd reason, I get delays using internet or even using the web config page for either router, and I am not sure how to go about diagnosing the problem, Any ideas?
[16:46] <jami> adityag: and ...
[16:46] <adversarian> There aren't any messages.
[16:47] <jami> adityag: tail /var/log/apache/error.log
[16:47] <berserk_ren> adityag, AMP directory is found in /var/www as i know
[16:47] <berserk_ren> ..
[16:47] <berserk_ren> apache directiry
[16:47] <jami> adversarian:tail /var/log/apache/error.log
[16:47] <hk_99> jami  ~/Dokumente/rdesktop-1.6.0$ rm license.ats.zdv.uni-mainz.de      it says no such file or directory
[16:48] <adversarian> Where do I put that in? Do I have to boot and choose terminal?
[16:48] <edbian> adversarian, Open a terminal silly :)   Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[16:48] <adversarian> I can't get that far; it doesn't boot
[16:49] <adityag>  berserk_ren: there is already files in that directory, but i cant access them
[16:49] <jami> hk_99: you see other possible licence keys ?
[16:49] <berserk_ren> adityag, chmod 777 /var/www
[16:49] <adversarian> The computer already has ubuntu 9.10 installed, but it won't boot correctly - it always freezes on the logo. When I boot from the liveCD, it freezes on the logo, too.
[16:49] <berserk_ren> or other chmod ... 777 means full access
[16:50] <hk_99> jami  no not really
[16:50] <Linuxnoob> i tried Free Easy CD DVD burner and didnt let me open .iso files...
[16:50] <jami> hk_99: then i've no idea :) sry
[16:50] <kellemes> Linuxnoob: k3b can do it all..
[16:50] <Linuxnoob> k3b?
[16:50] <hk_99> jami ok thanks though
[16:51] <jami> kellemes: kde tss
[16:51] <berserk_ren> i just don't know those chmod numbers... ofcourse you can write like xrwrxr... but i also don't know  meanings :D
[16:51] <HeaVenGh0st> how to change the resolution size in ubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <Linuxnoob> kellemes: k3b?
[16:51] <berserk_ren> system>preference>display :D
[16:52] <jami> Linuxnoob: yes k3b a powerfull burning application
[16:52] <kellemes> Linuxnoob: yep, will pull in some kde-libs but it rocks.
[16:52] <Linuxnoob> ok ill googe/download it :)
[16:52] <jami> Linuxnoob: no
[16:52] <jami> Linuxnoob: u will aptitude install k3b
[16:52] <jami> Linuxnoob: it
[16:52] <adityag> berserk_ren:  chmod does nt work
[16:52] <Linuxnoob> huh?
[16:53] <Linuxnoob> kde-libs? cant i download?
[16:53] <berserk_ren> strange... it should work
[16:53] <arand> adversarian: hmm, it might be worth a try using options like "acpi=off", etc..., they are available from the liveCD, does they allow you to boot? Also, check the CD for defects, (md5sum)
[16:53] <berserk_ren> sudo chmod 777 /var/www
[16:53] <c3l> would it be possible to start a graphical program on my server, from my desktop computer? if I start a program over ssh -Y it will run here, and without -Y it wont run at all
[16:53] <arand> Linuxnoob: is this from windows you want to burn?
[16:53] <Linuxnoob> yeah
[16:53] <adversarian> Yeah, I checked it for defects, before and after burning the ISO to the disc. Both tests went fine.
[16:53] <c3l> I want the program to keep running on the server when I shut down this pc
[16:53] <Linuxnoob> i wanna burn liveCD
[16:53] <Linuxnoob> from windows professioanl
[16:53] <Linuxnoob> professional
[16:53] <arand> !burniso | Linuxnoob
[16:54] <edbian> c3l, but a & at the end of the command
[16:54] <c3l> edbian, :O ty
[16:54] <HeaVenGh0st> ubuntu is not detecting my monitor ? screen is coming very small?
[16:54] <qcjn> hi, my webcam works, but the image is not good...using cheese
[16:54] <bitmonk> HeaVenGh0st: there is a wiki page about that, i'm also having issues in the past few days..
[16:54] <edbian> c3l, No problem
[16:54] <bitmonk> you went to display preferences?
[16:54] <Linuxnoob> yeah i've downloaded iso recorder but i cant find exe file
[16:54] <berserk_ren> adityag,  sudo chmod 777 /var/www always use sudo if writtin  something like - need's root =]
[16:55] <adversarian> I'm going to try acpi=off; let's see how this goes..
[16:55] <qcjn> supposed to be 5 megapix, and the grain is big
[16:55] <HeaVenGh0st> bitmonk: yes
[16:55] <bitmonk> HeaVenGh0st: there are no larger resolutions available?
[16:55] <HeaVenGh0st> bitmonk: No i cant see any
[16:55] <jami> Linuxnoob: u should really read the ubuntu documentation ... from the top
[16:55] <bitmonk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution#Problem:  Wrong resolutions, refresh rates, or monitor specs HeaVenGh0st
[16:55] <chadi> when I shutdown my laptop from ubuntu, the mouse that is attached to the USB slot remains lit. How can I fix that?
[16:56] <adversarian> With the acpi=off option, should I then continue with "try ubuntu" or try and install?
[16:56] <HeaVenGh0st> bitmonk: i will give it a go
[16:56] <adityag> berserk_ren:  http://183.87.46.71/
[16:56] <Spirits-Sight> can anyone help with getting synce to work so that when I connect my device to the computer it would show as a drive?
[16:56] <bitmonk> chadi: your laptop may provide power to usb devices when off.  check the bios, maybe it is different for some usb ports, even.
[16:56] <psdgvfd34> WHY DONT YOU GUYS JUST USE DEBIAN
[16:56] <ouyes> every time when i boot into ubuntu there came out a window before the login screen it showed :your graphic is in low mode...... then i try to settle it but without luck it came out again in the next start,can anyone help?
[16:56] <adityag>  berserk_ren: try opening either the root or new directory
[16:56] <Linuxnoob> hum
[16:57] <psdgvfd34> why dont you guys just use debian
[16:57] <psdgvfd34> WHY?
[16:57] <bitmonk> psdgvfd34: that's disruptive and, the answer is, we don't wanna.
[16:57] <Linuxnoob> i dont even know that there is an documentation... tought it was just burn and go :/
[16:57] <microlith> psdgvfd34: don't care to?
[16:57] <chadi> bitmonk: no bios settings about that, and windows doesn't have this problem
[16:57] <psdgvfd34> loool
[16:57] <bitmonk> odd, chadi, that is a thinker..
[16:57] <berserk_ren> works perfectly
[16:57] <berserk_ren> adityag
[16:57] <psdgvfd34> ps, I am justing testing an irc client that I am writing for huge userlists
[16:57] <berserk_ren> it works =]
[16:57] <adityag> jami: http://183.87.46.71/ try opening either the root or new directory
[16:57] <microlith> psdgvfd34: well this is a huge userlist
[16:58] <Jatone1> and figured you'd troll while at it psd? =)
[16:58] <berserk_ren> does not opens
[16:58] <bitmonk> psdgvfd34: also, way more packages, many things more up to date, releases more often so we don't have to run sid on the desktop for a program that was in last spring's linux journal..
[16:58] <adityag> berserk_ren: i know its working but  root or new is not opening
[16:58] <psdgvfd34> yes Jatone1
[16:58] <psdgvfd34> need to get proper highlighting
[16:58] <bitmonk> another answer is probably that many of us probably use debian, ubuntu, and even other linuxen! ;)
[16:58] <berserk_ren> it should not be opened
[16:58] <chadi> bitmonk: I also would like to add that I head a small "detonation" like a speaker detonation when the laptop is shutdown, so I might think of an incorrect shutdown.
[16:58] <berserk_ren> protected...
[16:58] <edbian> bitmonk, I use debian
[16:58] <adversarian> Once again, it's just frozen. :/ No change.
[16:59] <Jatone1> lol
[16:59] <berserk_ren> if you opren root - someone crush your system :D
[16:59] <adversarian> If I boot up normally (without the liveCD), it freezes at the "skip stopping firewall: uwf (not enabled)" part. Does that narrow it down any?
[16:59] <lethliel> adityag just for your information: it is never a good idea to change the priviliges of the www root to 777
[16:59] <indian_munnda> hi all i m not able to run my graphics programs using "graphics.h". Can anyone help me with this????
[16:59] <berserk_ren> btw chmod 4 root doesnt work if im right ;D
[16:59] <bitmonk> chadi: interesting, try setting up netconsole and capturing some pasteables from a shutdown, on another machine..
[17:00] <edbian> indian_munnda, graphics.h is a C/C++ header file?  You can't compile or run header files.  You need a .cpp
[17:00] <chadi> bitmonk: I don't understand. I'm still a n00b. can you elaborate or link me?
[17:00] <etFIX> anyone have any experience with using dm-crypt?
[17:00] <adityag>  lethliel: i knew but berserk_ren told me to do so
[17:00] <Hinata> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 9.10 (64bit) and wine 1.1.36 to run wow on a second x server using this script http://pastebin.com/d394b07cf and I was wondering how can I make it so I get sound on that second x server?
[17:00] <Linuxnoob> brb reboot
[17:01] <indian_munnda> edbian, exactly but i have made a small program which uses graphics.h functions. So i want to use those function but my compiler doesn't recognize it's functions..
[17:01] <lethliel> adityag just telling you in the case you don't know. no offend :)
[17:01] <jami> adityag: can access both
[17:02] <adityag>  lethliel:  jami: chmod should not have to be done
[17:02] <edbian> indian_munnda, You need to #include _graphics.h_ at the top of the .cpp
[17:02] <edbian> indian_munnda, Also, this is off-topic.  You need to ask in a different channel
[17:02] <berserk_ren> adityag, after install LAMP just make /var/www accessible 4 u and users =] 4 u = full access, for users - just read
[17:02] <jami> adityag: what
[17:02] <etFIX> i'm having some unusual problems... some files on disk are changed randomly... just had a problem logging into xsession because it seems libglib package was corrupt all by it self... probably a hdd problem? thoughts?
[17:02] <jami> adityag: chmod does nothing to do with web access control
[17:03] <arand> adversarian: please mention name if adressing someone particualar (tis abusy channel). How did you install ubuntu if you couldn't boot into the liveCD?
[17:03] <jami> adityag: -does +has
[17:03] <berserk_ren> btw this chmod is just for your system...
[17:03] <berserk_ren> not for web
[17:03] <bitmonk> chadi: google netconsole
[17:03] <indian_munnda> edbian, i did included it as #include<graphics.h>, sorry to ask but i didn't found any other channel
[17:03] <arand> adversarian: and yes after selecting acpi=off (or maybe try the other ones as well, just use "try without changes"
[17:03] <jami> adityag: you want .htaccess?
[17:03] <berserk_ren> ah... nevermind...  im away... study physics :D
[17:03]  * berserk_ren is away: study 
[17:03] <edbian> indian_munnda, Try this syntax: "#include _graphics_h_"  I have no other suggestions
[17:04] <adversarian> arand: I installed it last night and it went fine. I previously had Windows XP Home, and converted the entire PC to Ubuntu. After installation it booted fine, and everything worked. I hibernated the computer for the night, and when I turned it on it didn't work properly.
[17:04] <Lantizia> Hey are there destructions on how to install Ubuntu from a USB pen?
[17:04] <indian_munnda> edbian, okies thanks
[17:04] <Lantizia> Hang on I know... UNetbootin
[17:04] <arand> adversarian: and not even the liveCD will startup now?
[17:04] <jami> Lantizia: search for UNetbootin
[17:05] <edbian> Lantizia, I've never heard of destructions!  What are they like?  Do they teach you how to not do things?
[17:05] <Lantizia> edbian, Exactly... see you have heard of them
[17:05] <adversarian> arand: No, even though I've checked the CD for errors. It freezes whether I choose install or try, through the menu.
[17:05] <kitallis> is notifyOSD a separate project or does it _depend_ on libnotify?
[17:05] <edbian> Lantizia, ha ha ha
[17:06] <chadi> bitmonk and what about capturing shutdown events?
[17:06] <bitmonk> chadi: you'll get the console output that flies by just before the screen powers off, into a netcat or rsyslog this way
[17:06] <chadi> bitmonk: thank you. I'll try that tomorrow :)
[17:07] <arand> adversarian: that is very strange.. hmm, the only thing I really could guess is awry is that it's somehow failing in reading the swap.. but I don't see how the liveCD would care about that...
[17:07] <aliquerer> what does localhost mean?
[17:07] <Lantizia> edbian, I've just got so tired of burning CDs... they end up everywhere! and half the time they don't work
[17:07] <adversarian> arand: Is there a way for me to boot in the cd without the logo screen, so I could see what's going on?
[17:07] <lethliel> aliquerer it is your system
[17:07] <aliquerer> lethliel: i have creataed a server which is called localhost what does that mean?
[17:08] <Hinata> aliquerer: localhost = 127.0.0.1 it's like an internal ip adress (from what I understand at least)
[17:08] <lethliel> aliquerer that the server resides on your local system
[17:08] <adversarian> arand: When I boot without the cd in recovery mode, it stops after checking the keyboard and whatnot. Specifically it says "skip stopping firewall: uwf (not enabled)" before stopping.
[17:08] <aliquerer> lethliel: does that mean no one except me can open the content? cuz thats what i want :P
[17:09] <arand> adversarian: hm, booting the CD just to root terminal should be doable, let's see how...
[17:09] <lethliel> aliquerer it can be accessed via a network interface like eth0 or eth1. Depending on what server it is and based on its configuration
[17:09] <jami> *hehe
[17:10] <aliquerer> lethliel: i dont anyone the access it. how do i prtoect it?
[17:10] <adversarian> arand: When I boot the computer I do get to GRUB, and from what I remember there's terminal access from there. I haven't tried to see if that option works.
[17:10] <jami> htaccess
[17:10] <lethliel> aliquerer what type of server is it?
[17:10] <adversarian> arand: I was thinking it might've been a grub problem until the liveCD didn't work either
[17:11] <aliquerer> lethliel: what do you mean? i created it by installing LAMP and create a database with phpadmin
[17:11] <Spirits-Sight> can anyone help with getting synce to work so that when I connect my device to the computer it would show as a drive?
[17:11] <arand> adversarian: recovery mode is supposed to give root shell if it gets by...
[17:11] <xiushen> 大家晚上好阿
[17:11] <jami> aha
[17:11] <Spirits-Sight> its a form of PDA, it uses a custom shell over the win ce 6 but it would use normal activesync / win mobile center if on windows system
[17:11] <adversarian> arand: No, recovery mode stops as well. :/
[17:11] <lethliel> aliquerer then as jami stated htaccess would be the way. And there are other servers as well. A server must not be a webserver
[17:12] <jami> lethliel: ack
[17:12] <arand> adversarian: you could try running the recovery mode from the liveCD. Choose F6 and then edit the boot line: Remove the "quiet splash --" and replace it with "single"
[17:12] <zujnbhgtr> http://www.pandamailer.de/?bettel=pimbolli
[17:13] <adversarian> arand: I'll give that a go. I'll let you know what happens.
[17:13] <dr4g> Has anyone ever got cPanel working with ubuntu ???
[17:13] <aliquerer> lethliel: so what do i do if I dont want anyone to read my content?
[17:13] <Nuxcy> Hope somebody can guide me to the right resource - if I wanted to develop my own GUI for *nix based OS what options do I have?
[17:13] <chaosphere> i have problems reading files. The permissions are set fine. Even as root i can't access the files. http://pastebin.com/m147f1878 Can anyone help me?
[17:14] <edbian> Nuxcy, GTK+ and QT are the two predominate APIs for a GUI
[17:14] <ouyes> >!ati ouyes
[17:14] <ouyes> how to use the robot info
[17:15] <dr4g> Anyone got cPanel working on ubuntu ?
[17:15] <dr4g> -
[17:15] <ouyes> i want to know info about ati
[17:15] <iceroot> !ati | ouyes
[17:15] <Jeruvy> !bot > ouyes
[17:16] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, I solved the original problem. After the upgrade to Intrepid, the video card drivers needed to be re-installed.
[17:16] <lethliel> aliquerer you can use htaccess: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html <-- this is a howto
[17:16] <adversarian> arand: It's stopped at "Starting early crypto disks". The computer is no longer reading the CD.
[17:16] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, glad to hear!
[17:16] <ouyes> iceroot, Jeruvy  thanks
[17:16] <edson> hi guys
[17:17] <steffan> edson: Hi
[17:17] <SealedWithAKiss> LizardK|ng, do drivers always need to be re-installed when you upgrade the OS?
[17:17] <Nuxcy> edbian: thanks. I'll look these up.
[17:17] <edson> somebody use ubuntu for laptop dell?
[17:17] <LizardK|ng> SealedWithAKiss, don't know, depends on the drivers
[17:17] <calliscope> edson, works pretty much ootb
[17:17] <steffan> edson: There are probably a ton of users running Ubuntu on a Dell laptop - please ask your question
[17:18] <edson> steffan, ok ok
[17:18] <arand> adversarian: do you use any encryption in the install?
[17:19] <edson> after install ubuntu 9.10 my laptop dell inspiron 1440.
[17:19] <edson> not work button eject cd-rom.
[17:19] <adversarian> arand: I set a userpassword, but otherwise I didn't pick any sort of encryption option. I even chose to boot without asking for my password.
[17:19] <edson> somebody is problem?
[17:20] <adversarian> arand: Would there be a way for me to reformat the entire HDD and try to reinstall ubuntu after that? I don't have any files or anything on the computer yet, so it wouldn't be a problem for me
[17:21] <steffan> edson: You can try the following. Open Terminal via Application/Accessories/Terminal and run this command 'sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf' and add the following to the end of that file 'dev.cdrom.lock=0', then save and close
[17:21] <arand> adversarian: Well I really don't know what's awry, you could try running something like SystemRescueCD and see if that boots, and then run fsck from there and see if it filesystem erros that's causing the hassle...
[17:21] <Tuxguy> In my audio settings, my nvidia card shows HDMI audio out, and HDMI audio out + analog out....  when did nvidia hdmi start being supported for audioout?
[17:21] <edbian> steffan, gksu/gksudo gedit please :)
[17:22] <christian> servus
[17:22] <arand> adversarian: if you wipe the computer it should work.. but I feel there should be better ways to do this...
[17:22] <steffan> edbian: Hm?
[17:22] <adversarian> arand: Possibly, but reformating might be fastest at this point.
[17:22] <edbian> steffan, To run a graphical app as root you should use gksu or gksudo not sudo
[17:23] <adversarian> arand: There's nothing on the HDD but the fresh ubuntu installation, and this way we'll find out if it was just a corrupt installation or if it's the actual hardware that's at fault. I just don't know how to reformat it
[17:23] <Hinata> edbian: what's wrong with sudo for graphical aplications?
[17:23] <steffan> edbian: Oh sorry, I'm actually reading from some documentation so no idea. I edit text-based anyhow
[17:24] <edson> steffan, reboot system?
[17:24] <edbian> Hinata, I'm not sure...  I heard it on here a long time ago.  The explanation I got was "sudo does not set things up properly for a graphical app"
[17:24] <steffan> edson: No there is no need for that, is it working?
[17:24] <Hinata> edbian: oh ok thanks
[17:24] <steffan> edbian: At the end of the day, "it works"
[17:24] <edbian> steffan, true
[17:24] <alfie[iv]> Why is seamless mode grey in the  vbox menu? I am using Windows 7 with an Ubuntu installation on a virtual drive.
[17:25] <Hinata> Does anyone know why if you run a second X display, you stop getting anykind of sound?
[17:25] <adversarian> arand: I'm going to see if the terminal works with the normal boot, instead of the CD. Maybe we'll get answers then
[17:25] <arand> adversarian: hmm, yea, well you'll have to boot something with partition editing, be it a windows CD, A floppy with fdisk, or SystemRescueCD...
[17:26] <edson> steffan, no.
[17:26] <adversarian> arand: Terminal loads fine. What should I try out? I'm a complete linux newb.
[17:26] <jordanbuchman> how can i install wine
[17:26] <jordanbuchman> the terminal seems to work but i cant find it
[17:26] <IdleOne> sudo aptitude install wine jordanbuchman
[17:27] <arand> jordanbuchman: use ubuntu software centre
[17:27] <arand> jordanbuchman: just search for "wine"
[17:27] <jordanbuchman> ok thanks!
[17:27] <steffan> !laptop > edson
[17:28] <setuid> There was an applet I had running on Karmic, sat in gnome-panel, and was a dropdown of all of the running apps. Anyone know what this was called? It's not Window List.
[17:28] <jordanbuchman> it doesnt work
[17:28] <jordanbuchman> does anyone know how to do it using xfce
[17:29] <arand> adversarian: hmm, so where are you? are you booted into linux and to the terminal? Or is the the grub terminal?
[17:29] <Boobek> hi
[17:29] <obiwan_> hi bobe
[17:29] <jordanbuchman> alright how can you do it using xfce
[17:29] <adversarian> arand: It's the grub commandline thing. I don't know if I can do much with it, but the fact that it works is an improvement
[17:29] <arand> jordanbuchman: have you installed it?
[17:30] <jordanbuchman> no i used some info online to use terminal to install it
[17:30] <jordanbuchman> it seemed like it worked
[17:30] <jordanbuchman> but im not sure
[17:30]  * UbuN2 Scans for living Life
[17:31] <arand> adversarian: yea, I'm not sure there's much to be done from grub...
[17:31] <lethliel> jordanbuchman open a terminal and type winecfg. If a application opens it works :)
[17:31] <jordanbuchman> ok thanks
[17:31] <jordanbuchman> ill try it
[17:32] <jordanbuchman> nope
[17:32] <adversarian> arand: Is the GRUB version supposed to be 1.97b4 with ubuntu 9.10?
[17:32] <arand> jordanbuchman: to use wine from terminal use "wine applicationname.exe"
[17:32] <setuid> Anyone know what this applet is called?
[17:32] <ankur> hi
[17:32] <arand> adversarian: yes
[17:32] <lethliel> jordanbuchman you can also try typing which wine. It will show you the path to the wine binaries. Or not if not installed.
[17:33] <arand> setuid: window selector?
[17:33] <jordanbuchman> okay
[17:33] <jordanbuchman> that litteraly
[17:33] <jordanbuchman> ?
[17:34] <setuid> ah, I wonder why that didn't show up when I searched for 'window' instead of 'selector'
[17:34] <setuid> Thanks
[17:34] <jordanbuchman> ok should i install wine or wine1.2
[17:34] <iWolf> I used Wubi to dual-boot with Ubuntu, but It gives me a "severe kernal error"
[17:34] <jordanbuchman> hmmmmm
[17:35] <jordanbuchman> never happened with me
[17:35] <jordanbuchman> what desktop are you using
[17:35] <miljo> '/part
[17:35] <lethliel> jordanbuchman its your choice. wine ist linked to the current Version imho
[17:35] <miljo> lol
[17:36] <brig> I am about to write a application that needs to use a webcam, it needs to be ported to Window$ and OSX, what should I use? (I tried JMF but after a few months on the ubuntu support site I gave up as they keep telling me its not there problem, and removing my posts)
[17:36] <wowoto> !ask | wowoto
[17:36] <AJenbo> Hi, can any one help me salvage my NTFS partition?
[17:36] <AJenbo> http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?pid=22636#p22636
[17:37] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: I'm using a Gateway NV53 Cherry Red
[17:38] <brig> Anyone know of a good java webcam library outside jmf?
[17:38] <jrib> brig: ask the java channel
[17:38] <jordanbuchman> ok now what
[17:38] <ugarit> I can't find ubuntu 9.10 live cd download area.  Where is it?
[17:38] <brig> jrib: no they all say jmf is the thing, I just cant get it to work in ubuntu, its fine in windows and osx, jsut not ubuntut!
[17:39] <jrib> ugarit: the desktop cd is a live cd
[17:39] <arand> AJenbo: testdisk is an utility to write partition tables... might work?
[17:39] <ugarit> so they have merged?
[17:39] <ugarit> jrib:  can the desktop one restore grub?
[17:39] <lethliel> jordanbuchman what do you mean by "now what?"
[17:39] <jrib> !grub > ugarit
[17:39] <yoghurt> Hey! Does Ubuntu 10.4 support SATA out-of-the-box?
[17:39] <jrib> ugarit: yes
[17:39] <setuid> How do I get rid of the 1px border around my desktop wallpaper in lucid?
[17:40] <jrib> !lucid | yoghurt
[17:40] <jrib> setuid: you too :)
[17:40] <setuid> yep, wrong tab
[17:40] <setuid> sorry
[17:40] <yoghurt> jrid -> Sorry, i meant 9.10 :)
[17:40] <brig> I am about to write a application that needs to use a webcam, it needs to be ported to Window$ and OSX, what should I use? (I tried JMF but after a few months on the ubuntu support site I gave up as they keep telling me its not there problem, and removing my posts)
[17:40] <smiley_> brig: C
[17:40] <jordanbuchman> should it be saying it will take 4 hours!
[17:40] <jordanbuchman> thats a lot
[17:41] <jrib> brig: If you want an alternative library to JMF here is not the place.  Ask a java channel.
[17:41] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: It runs fine
[17:41] <Sabir> I configured lirc, corrected file lircmap.xml, all made in accordance with the instruction. But xbmc does not accept the keystrokes on the remote. Who can help me something in this matter?
[17:41] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: But it is VERY unstable for some reason
[17:41] <brig> smiley: nope, it needs to run on other environments as well C will not work
[17:41] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: Windows Says I have 5 bars
[17:41] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: But Ubuntu says I have 2
[17:41] <yoghurt> I meant, does 9.10 support SATA out of the box?
[17:41] <smiley_> brig: probably java then?
[17:41] <jordanbuchman> anyone there
[17:41] <jrib> yoghurt: yes
[17:41] <jordanbuchman> hmmmm
[17:41] <yoghurt> thanks! :)
[17:41] <gidna> Why can't I download images when I save a HTML page with mozilla fiefox?
[17:41] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: And It Says I Have A Severe Kernal Error
[17:42] <brig> jrib: ok so where is the place to get help on a bug that only shows up in ubuntu?
[17:42] <jrib> brig: if you now want to troubleshoot some issue with JMF then see where you can get support with JMF
[17:43] <iWolf> Is there a channel for Wubi Support?
[17:43] <brig> jrib: ahhh well sun says its a problem with ubuntu, and ubuntu says its a problem with java, so... what now?
[17:43] <Jeruvy> iWolf: you're in it, what is the kernel error?
[17:43] <ManDay> does anyone know how to set a firefox css override?
[17:43] <iWolf> Does not say
[17:43] <iWolf> Did not get details
[17:43] <jrib> brig: where does sun say that?
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> huh what do you mean
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> oh
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> ummmm
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> what os are you using with ubuntu
[17:43] <FloodBot3> jordanbuchman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> wipe and reinstall ubuntu
[17:43] <gui7> i need a simple video editor with some transition effects
[17:43] <jordanbuchman> and thjen reinsall it from a different source
[17:44] <magic_1> guys, will ubuntu server 64 work on intel machines
[17:44] <smiley_> magic_1: yes.
[17:44] <brig> jrib: in an email
[17:44] <magic_1> awesome
[17:44] <brig> jrib: you want the wohle thread?
[17:44] <magic_1> thanks smiley_
[17:44] <jrib> brig: sure
[17:44] <magic_1> just wanted to make sure
[17:44] <iWolf> jordanbuchman: So reinstall with Wubi
[17:44] <microlith> magic_1: the x86_64 builds will work on any compatible chip (EM64T/AMD64)
[17:44] <ubuntu__> anybody here?
[17:44] <Jeruvy> iWolf: you may need to bring it up in recovery mode and read the /var/log/messages to review the error.
[17:44] <jrib> ubuntu__: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[17:45] <iWolf> Jeruvy: How
[17:45] <Jeruvy> iWolf: when you boot the system hit escape during the grub loading sequence should enable/show the boot menu, select recovery mode.
[17:46] <brig> jrib: ahhh this may be easier its someone else's conversation with them, but the just is the same... http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5368614
[17:46] <ubuntu__> I was trying to install Xubuntu 9.10, but during installation some kind of file copy error occurred and my installation failed, i restarted my PC but was unable to load XP, it shows some kind of GRUB loading error during boot, I tried to repair XP boot using fixboot command with XP installation CD, but still I see only GRUB loading error
[17:46] <Guest85692> как поменять имя .
[17:46] <gidna> Can you help me?
[17:46] <jrib> brig: so the issue is you can't install it, not that it doesn't work right?
[17:46] <ubuntu__> no
[17:46] <gui7> i need a simple video editor with some transition effects -- any help? i've tried cinelerra and kino already
[17:47] <Boobek> gui7: try openshot
[17:47] <brig> jrib: I can install it, it just dosent work at all
[17:47] <Boobek> (http://www.openshotvideo.com/)
[17:47] <__raven> gui7 kdenlive
[17:47] <gui7> Boobek, i will, thanks for the suggestion
[17:47] <oCean_> !ru | Guest85692
[17:47] <jrib> brig: you linked me to a thread about intalling it
[17:47] <iWolf> Jeruvy: So Go Through Windows' Boot Loader And Select Ubuntu, And From There It Takes Me Too Grub, Do I select the first choice? Boot Ubuntu? And When It's Loading Hit Esc?
[17:47] <Midnight_Owl> #Linux
[17:47] <gui7> __raven, i'm installing it as we speak :)
[17:48] <Hawkey> need help with server version, could i here or onlny on #ubuntu-server ?
[17:48] <jrib> Hawkey: you can ask here
[17:48] <brig> jrib: well, the linux install craps out, and it I use the platform independant install, it works, but does nothing
[17:48] <oCean_> Hawkey: only pls don't post in both channels same time
[17:48] <ubuntu__> I was trying to install Xubuntu 9.10, but during installation some kind of file copy error occurred and my installation failed, i restarted my PC but was unable to load XP, it shows some kind of GRUB loading error during boot, I tried to repair XP boot using fixboot command with XP installation CD, but still I see only GRUB loading error, how can i make my XP working again?
[17:49] <brig> jrib: this used to work a while back (about a year or 2 ago), but not anymore... I am a bit confused as to how this is a sun issue?
[17:49] <Jeruvy> iWolf: when you boot do you get a choice of OS to boot?
[17:50] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Yes, Through The Windows Boot Loader
[17:50] <jrib> brig: I think you should decide exactly what you want to troubleshoot.  You've changed your question at least 2 times now.  If you need help with something that is included in ubuntu, then here is the right place.  Otherwise, the people responsible for JMF are more likely to know more about what the problem is
[17:50] <iWolf> Jeruvy: I Am Using Wubi Too Dual Boot
[17:50] <Hawkey> need to ask.. we cannot run ubuntu server with two raids... says something like this when booting Fatal protection error in(at ... some tips about it?
[17:50] <Jeruvy> iWolf: So you're not using Grub?
[17:50] <cobol000_> what crap is that 'FloodBot' ?
[17:50] <iWolf> Jeruvy: If I select Ubuntu from the Windows OS Select, It Takes Me Too Grub
[17:50] <iWolf> Jeruvy: So It's Basiclly Dual-Loader
[17:51] <arand> ubuntu__: use both fixboot and fixmbr, I think
[17:51] <Jeruvy> iWolf: ok when you get to Grub hit escape to get the grub boot menu, that should give you a recovery mode option.
[17:51] <cobol000_> which touchscreens are supported by ubuntu
[17:51] <cobol000_> ?
[17:51] <arand> ubuntu__: also make sure to chack the disk for defects (md5sum) before starting install..
[17:52] <TurnOffModeR> ping
[17:52] <ubuntu__> arand, thanks i shall try fixmbr, what is md5sum?
[17:52] <brig> jrib: I am looking for the fastest/easyest way to get my software to work, if there is another java library that would work better I am all ears, but I am not getting support for the ubuntu JMF problem, and the java people tell me to use JMF, so thats where I am... can you help?
[17:52] <Zeonisis> How do I run python scripts on startup?
[17:52] <fanny> slt
[17:52] <fanny> je comprend pa l anglais
[17:52] <jrib> brig: so tell them what doesn't work in JMF.
[17:52] <oCean_> !fr | fanny
[17:52] <fanny> oki
[17:52] <arand> !md5 | ubuntu__
[17:53] <fanny> je comprend pa l anglait
[17:53] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Then...
[17:53] <iWolf> !fr | fanny
[17:53] <fanny> bn je vous laisse aplus
[17:53] <ubuntu__> How can I view my NTFS drives in xubuntu?
[17:53] <fanny> jé pa comrpit
[17:54] <Zeonisis> How can I run a python script on startup?
[17:54] <Jeruvy>  iWolf: once you get booted, review /var/log/messages for any kernel messages specific to it failing.  That should elude you to the issue.
[17:54] <brig> jrib: everything... it runs and I can select media to play, and it hangs, or I can try to look at the installed webcams, and it hangs... thats it
[17:54] <fanny> je pale pa anglais
[17:54] <MorphyNOR> !fr | fanny
[17:54] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Ubuntu has been uninstalled
[17:54] <jrib> brig: if you are using sun java, then this is an issue that the java people can more likely help you with
[17:54] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, what do you guys think about moonlight? the plugin that allows linux users to interact with silverlighted objects on the web? i read itz open source, do you think itz trustworthy? has anybody tried it? thank you
[17:54] <Zeonisis> How can I run a python script on startup?
[17:54] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: it's fine
[17:55] <Hawkey> so nothing? no ideas what could be wrong?
[17:55] <jrib> !startup | Zeonisis
[17:55] <jrib> !helpme | Hawkey
[17:55] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: could u define "fine" please :D
[17:55] <brig> jrib: yes I have been there they send me here as the issue does not show it self in other OS's
[17:55] <Jeruvy> iWolf: ah, well then what do you need help with?
[17:55] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: works ok, it's open source
[17:55] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Is this a common error with Wubi/Ubuntu
[17:55] <jrib> brig: what other linux did you try?
[17:55] <Jeruvy> iWolf: no
[17:55] <arand> ubuntu__: it should be possible to just click to acess them in the the file manager...
[17:55] <brig> jrib: the same software works like a champ in Fedora
[17:56] <gidna> Why can't I download images when I save a HTML page with mozilla fiefox?
[17:56] <jrib> brig: are you using sun java?
[17:56] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Should It Be My System?
[17:56] <brig> jrib: yep
[17:56] <jrib> brig: don't know then
[17:56] <adityag> why  am i getting error in www.slmbk.com ?
[17:56] <HeaVenGh0st> would it make any differece to performance of Ubuntu if installed through Wubi
[17:56] <HeaVenGh0st> ?
[17:56] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: so i can actually read and check the source files? im not really comfy in knowing i have some windowish tech on my clean linux desktop :D if u no what i mean
[17:56] <jrib> HeaVenGh0st: some
[17:56] <Hawkey> jrib .... OHH THANKS .... no comment.. you should say help yourself, it will be the same..
[17:57] <brig> jrib: OK, so what can I do now? the ubuntu people keep closeing my tickets saying its a java issue
[17:57] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: yes, pretty sure
[17:57] <Jeruvy> iWolf: without knowning why the kernel failed...we'd just be guessing.  I suggest you check your system out via the HCL see if there are any glaring conflicts, and attempt to reinstall again.
[17:57] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: thank u
[17:57] <IpSe_DiXiT> cya
[17:57] <ubuntu__> arand, unable to see my ntfs drives in file manager
[17:57] <jrib> Hawkey: and we remain not knowing what you need help with... and you remain not getting help...
[17:57] <iWolf> Jeruvy: Ok, I'll Try An Older (Stabler?) Version
[17:58] <Hawkey> jrib well i've posted it.. so ok.. i'll post again..
[17:58] <Jeruvy> iWolf: newer is usually better, hardware support wise.
[17:58] <Jeruvy> !hcl > iWolf
[17:58] <HeaVenGh0st> I have 800mHz 256RAM would that be enough to run ubuntu 9.04 smoothly?
[17:58] <oCean_> Hawkey: be sure to post exact error messages, not just "something like...."
[17:58] <jrib> HeaVenGh0st: maybe xubuntu
[17:58] <brig> jrib: so where can I go for support for this?
[17:58] <jordanbuchman> ok
[17:58] <jordanbuchman> srry
[17:58] <jordanbuchman> *sorry
[17:58] <jordanbuchman> anyone here
[17:58] <FloodBot3> jordanbuchman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <berserk_ren> apt-get moo - fun command :D:D
[17:58] <HeaVenGh0st> could I upgrade to Xbuntu from Ubuntu?
[17:59] <jordanbuchman> didnt word
[17:59] <jordanbuchman> *work
[17:59] <berserk_ren> HeaVenGh0st, just install XFCE window manager
[17:59] <jordanbuchman> when i tried to install it said unable to fetch some archives
[17:59] <berserk_ren> and use as default
[17:59] <jrib> brig: if java people can't help you and ubuntu people can't help you, then I guess you either need to help yourself (i.e. get more information about the issue so the previous two groups can help you), or pay someone to help you
[17:59] <Hawkey> oCean_ if i know it i would post it.. ok.. so.. there is no problem setting up two raids on ubuntu? no problem reported? don't you know?
[17:59] <HeaVenGh0st> berserk_ren: How could I install XFCE?
[17:59] <sclimans> Hi there, I recently tried compiling gnome-do from source.  I didn't like it so I tried deleting it by systematically deleting all files on my system with the name gnome-do in them.  I now want gnome-do back.  Gnome-do, from the repository, installs just fine but when I try to run it I get the following error message in the terminal: "Unhandled Exception: System.InvalidOperationException: Could not read add-in description  at Mono.Addins.Addin.get_Des
[17:59] <sclimans> cription () [0x00000]   at Mono.Addins.AddinSessionService.CheckHostAssembly (System.Reflection.Assembly asm) [0x00000]   at Mono.Addins.AddinSessionService.ActivateRoots () [0x00000]   at Mono.Addins.AddinSessionService.Initialize () [0x00000]   at Mono.Addins.AddinManager.Initialize (System.String configDir) [0x00000]   at Do.Core.PluginManager.Initialize () [0x00000]   at Do.Do.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00000] "
[17:59] <jordanbuchman> how can you install wine
[18:00] <jrib> Hawkey: known problems can be searched at bugs.ubuntu.com
[18:00] <algo_> Is there a command line application to get stock quotes?
[18:00] <jrib> !wine | jordanbuchman
[18:00] <oCean_> Hawkey: you can have multiple raidsets if that's your question?
[18:00] <protojay> !virtualizers
[18:00] <fluxw0rm> Can someone please recommend a way to change the default Ubuntu splash screen in Karmic. I've tried installing splashy with no luck.
[18:00] <berserk_ren> HeaVenGh0st, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[18:00] <Ikoras> I'm having issues burning to disc. iso is verified and sim run works but has errors during the actual burn
[18:00] <Dbutabi> can anyone help me with a dbus interface issue?
[18:00] <brig> jrib: do you think the ubuntu support people should be closeing all the tickets about jmf, even though it seems to be a ubuntu issue? I have never seen this kind of thing before!
[18:01] <berserk_ren> HeaVenGh0st, sudo apt-get install xfce4 or something like that
[18:01] <oCean_> sclimans: please don't paste into this channel, use pastebin
[18:01] <jrib> brig: link?
[18:01] <arand> ubuntu__: I'm not completely familiar with xubuntu though... hmm you could always use something like pysdm to connect it all up automatically when it starts.
[18:01] <berserk_ren> HeaVenGh0st, then vhen login window appears after restart in session menu select xfce
[18:01] <sclimans> oCean_: I don't know what that means.  What is pastebin?
[18:01] <Hawkey> oCean_ yup.. that's my question.. thx..
[18:01] <Ikoras> join channel #xubuntu for xubuntu
[18:01] <oCean_> !pastebin > sclimans
[18:01] <AJenbo> so fare testdisk is sugesting to reduce the partision to 10% :(
[18:02] <Dbutabi> anyone have any experience with id3 tagging through a script?
[18:02] <assad> how can i recover deleted files from 9.10?
[18:02] <jrib> Dbutabi: what's your actual question?
[18:02] <jrib> !recover | assad
[18:02] <oCean_> !anyone | Dbutabi
[18:03] <jordanbuchman> what does pastebin do
[18:03] <oCean_> !pastebin > jordanbuchman
[18:03] <Dbutabi> jrib: please see here for the details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383150
[18:03] <brig> jrib: dude this has been 6 months I have been grapeling with this! could you do me a favor, and put a ticket in and see for yourself? It would take me forever to find the links as I started with ubuntu support before moving to java
[18:03] <ActionParsnip__> assad: restore from backup is easiest
[18:03] <iWolf> Jeruvy: My Computer Is A Gateway NV53 Cherry Red
[18:03] <iWolf> Jeruvy: (If that helps)
[18:03] <ActionParsnip__> assad: you can boot to liveCD and use tools like foremost to mayberecover them
[18:03] <ActionParsnip__> assad: have you checked the recycle bin
[18:04] <assad> ActionParsnip__, i did shift delete
[18:04] <assad> :(
[18:04] <sclimans> Hi there, I recently tried compiling gnome-do from source.  I didn't like it so I tried deleting it by systematically deleting all files on my system with the name gnome-do in them.  I now want gnome-do back.  Gnome-do, from the repository, installs just fine but when I try to run it I get the following error message in the terminal: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78bfd6a9  Please help!
[18:04] <jrib> brig: no, you said there were several tickets closed.  Link me to one.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip__> assad: then restore or use foremost
[18:04] <zagabar> Hm, I had installed squirrelmail to use as mail client and it worked. Then I set up ICS and now my squirrelmail refuses to log people in. It says incorrect password.
[18:05] <brig> jrib: Arghhh, you going to be on here next weekend? It will take me quite some time to find them!?
[18:05] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: yo man, installed and tried it, but itz tellin me in order to visualize the clip i have to install the windows media pack, which it will download from the microsoft website and automatically install on my machine, im not sure i like that... cant i do otherwise? thanks :D
[18:05] <jrib> brig: search your account for bugs you filed that contain the word "java", no?
[18:05] <luckyone> hello all - anyone know how to make a Media Center remote control interact with the gnome desktop in karmic?
[18:05] <teadict> I need ideas about why the touchpad of a Eee 1201n is not working on karmicç
[18:05] <jrib> Dbutabi: there are some other libarries so you don't have to use dbus: mutagen comes to mind
[18:06] <jrib> Dbutabi: #python can probably help you use it
[18:06] <Dbutabi> is that similar at all to dbus?
[18:06] <Dbutabi> ok thank you very much
[18:06] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: I don't know
[18:06] <gui7> __raven, openshot seems good, but both my .oggdv fiels and my .avi files have a clicking sound... do ya know whats casuing it? they're fine if i open em in vlc
[18:06] <brig> jrib: I am a professional Java developer... this will take some time... thanks anyway.... I will be back next weekend, and hopefully I will get someone as good as you in then... thanks for trying to help!
[18:06] <jrib> brig: good luck
[18:07] <brig> jrib: thanks
[18:07] <sclimans> Hi there, I recently tried compiling gnome-do from source.  I didn't like it so I tried deleting it by systematically deleting all files on my system with the name gnome-do in them.  I now want gnome-do back.  Gnome-do, from the repository, installs just fine but when I try to run it I get the following error message in the terminal: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78bfd6a9  Please help!
[18:07] <iWolf> !repeat | sclimans
[18:07] <jrib> sclimans: how did you "systematically delete" files exactly?
[18:08] <jordanbuchman> ok
[18:08] <jordanbuchman> i dont get it
[18:08] <arand> sclimans: You should be using "make uninstall" to remove it...
[18:08] <sclimans> I searched my file system for all files with gnome-do in the filename and deleted those files.  I did not delete any files called gnome-doc
[18:08] <Dbutabi> im using xchat right now and I'm trying to join #python and it keeps telling me : you need to be identified to join that channel ... how do I do that?
[18:08] <sclimans> I tried doing make uninstall but it didn't work.  I guess the source didn't include a proper uninstall file
[18:08] <iWolf> Should I Use Wubi Too Install 9.04 On My Gateway NV53
[18:09] <ActionParsnip__> !identify | Dbutabi
[18:09] <jrib> sclimans: :/  purge the packages related to gnome-do and reinstall them I guess.  It's likely you deleted files that were handled by the package manager
[18:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: but u did install the winpack? u wouldnt be able to watch those clips othwerise
[18:09] <sclimans> How exactly do I purge the packages related to gnome-do?
[18:09] <chaosphere> i have problems reading some files. The permissions are set fine. Even as root i can't access the files. http://pastebin.com/m147f1878 Can anyone help me?
[18:09] <bitmonk> iWolf: that might not be a bad idea if you've never installed linux before, so you can be sure that you don't nuke your working win system.
[18:09] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: I didn't watch any clips
[18:10] <rtdp> first time on any IRC what to do here ??
[18:10] <maverick> can anyone tell me how to use an external download manager for opera in ubuntu?
[18:10] <n2diy> I just backed up my main box to my test box, and now the test box won't open Fire Fox, it is complaining about "an invalid MIT-MAGIC-KEY" any ideas what happened?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip__> rtdp: ask questions regarding issues with the ubuntu OS
[18:11] <arand> sclimans: I'm guessing there might be quite a bit of stuff left from the source-install... might try to compile with checkinstall and then remove it throught the package system...
[18:11] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: o_O why did u install it then? sorry if i ask but itz for my understanding... dont mean to be rude at all, just feel like there are some functions i prolly dunno bout it
[18:11] <rtdp> just came across a page regarding ubuntu users day.. excited about it..
[18:11] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: there were some flash like applets that required it
[18:12] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: kk
[18:12] <Jeruvy> rtdp: if you just want to chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic.  This channel is for support questions, thanks :)
[18:13] <tarski> anyone here set up NAT successfully in ubuntu
[18:14] <iWolf> Will Older Versions Of Ubuntu Work With Newer Hardware?
[18:14] <iWolf> I.E 9.04
[18:14] <CoolCon> how should I connect to windows 7 through samba?
[18:14] <lucky> iWolf: "it depends".
[18:15] <CoolCon> it gives me an error
[18:15] <jordanbuchman> what is the command for running wine in terminal
[18:15] <K4k> My laptop overheated froze, then when I rebooted I'm getting an error "I/O Error ,dev sr0, sector 128" this is then followed by the same thing but sector 0 at the end rather than 128. Any thoughts?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: some hardware needs the newer libs
[18:15] <Jeruvy> iWolf: it's mostly a question of if the kernel supports it.  Did you check out the HCL link I sent you?
[18:15] <jami> iWolf: what hardware features do you mean
[18:15] <iWolf> ActionParsnip__: Will 9.04 Work With My Gateway NV53?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip__> jordanbuchman: wine /path/to/program.exe
[18:15] <lucky> iWolf: if it's an option, the easiest thing to do is simply test it with a live cd or usb, otherwise check hardware compatibility lists
[18:16] <CoolCon> how should I connect to windows 7 through samba?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: depends on what motherboard hardware and video card it uses
[18:16] <chaosphere> CoolCon: what's the error?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: you'd have to research on what it has and how well it works
[18:16]  * berserk_ren is back (gone 01:12:58)
[18:17] <iWolf> ActionParsnip__: It works through a VM
[18:17] <honey84> HI
[18:17] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: vm uses virtualised hardware so means nothing
[18:17] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: you can run a liveCD to test
[18:17] <CoolCon> uhm, it says in dutch: 'kon gedeelde map niet weergeven', something like 'couldn't mount share'
[18:18] <berserk_ren> i'm wondering, what is better : use audacious or mpd and sonata... what eats less resources? =}
[18:18] <jordanbuchman> so what would i do is my shockwave installer is Shockwave_Installer_Full
[18:18] <chaosphere> what software are you using to access the win7 box?
[18:18] <iWolf> ActionParsnip__: Should I try through Wubi?
[18:18] <Trizicus> Once my computer goes to screensaver and I unlock the computer firefox search constantly highlights itself. Has anyone experienced this?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip__> berserk_ren: i'd say mpd
[18:18] <CoolCon> samba
[18:18] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: you can, i wouldnt suggest it as a long term solution
[18:18] <CoolCon> smb://192.168.0.1/f is my query
[18:19] <CoolCon> firewall is of
[18:19] <CoolCon> *off
[18:19] <chaosphere> in nautilus?
[18:19] <iWolf> ActionParsnip__: I'm a linux geek, just have not used Ubuntu in awhile
[18:19] <CoolCon> yes
[18:19] <n2diy> I just backed up my main box to my test box, and now the test box won't open Fire Fox, it is complaining about "an invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE" any ideas what happened?
[18:19] <iWolf> ActionParsnip__: I know I like it :P
[18:19] <chattta> hi all, i gotta problem.  i have a disk partition for file storage which filled up, and now i'm unable to delete files from it.  "Error while deleting.  Failed to delete the item from the trash"
[18:19] <chattta> Does ubu/linux need some space to do file actions like delete?  How do I delete files?  Thanks!
[18:19] <chaosphere> does it ask for a user and password?
[18:19] <arand> jordanbuchman: installing shockwave through wine seems to make little sense...
[18:19] <d3c3p710n> n2diy, try deleting the profile in .mozilla
[18:19] <CoolCon> no, it doesn't
[18:19] <CoolCon> it did earlier
[18:19] <ActionParsnip__> iWolf: if it works in live cd then its fine, you can also configure drivers in the live cd
[18:19] <berserk_ren> ActionParsnip__, i think so too =} mmm... mpd can be used as streaming if im right =)
[18:20] <chaosphere> then perhaps try this: smb://<user>@192.168.0.1/f
[18:20] <ActionParsnip__> berserk_ren: sure it can
[18:20] <CoolCon> though i disabled the user authetincation
[18:20] <Jowi>  CoolCon gvfs-mount smb://192.168.0.1/f (it will mount in ~/.gvfs)
[18:20] <berserk_ren> that's good =} i can listen my music not just @ home =}
[18:20] <Kai_> how do you make an application that controls the mouse?
[18:20] <CoolCon> it now asks for a password
[18:21] <luckyone> is it possible to use an IR remote to control the desktop?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip__> berserk_ren: if you run openssh-server you can mount the remote folder securely like a network share, then play the files as you would on lan
[18:21] <Kai_> luckyone: lirc perhaps
[18:21] <jordanbuchman> so how would i do that
[18:21] <jordanbuchman> anyone there?
[18:21] <jordanbuchman> hello?
[18:21] <chaosphere> so then set one and try again or try it with the guest-account.
[18:21] <jordanbuchman> errrr
[18:21] <rooisto47> hi everybody I have I question about debmirror:
[18:21] <rooisto47> when trying miror www.debian-multimedia.org I had I problem with the gpg key please help "informations from http://debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php"
[18:21] <jordanbuchman> can someone answer me
[18:21] <FloodBot3> jordanbuchman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <berserk_ren> it's just like winamp shoutcast :D
[18:21] <guerrilha_crls> r
[18:22] <CoolCon> it doesn't work, gives same errir
[18:22] <n2diy> d3c3p710n: didn't work, and it is worse than I thought, I get the same error with Thunderbird, and Synaptic.
[18:22] <rooisto47> I don't know what to change and where to fix the gpg key problem
[18:22] <chaosphere> perhaps try Jowi's approach.
[18:22] <Jowi> CoolCon, do the gvfs-mount command in a terminal so that we can see what exact error it gives.
[18:23] <jordanbuchman> ok
[18:23] <chaosphere> i have problems reading some files. The permissions are set fine. Even as root i can't access the files. http://pastebin.com/m147f1878 Can anyone help me?
[18:23] <chattta> My disk partition for file storage filled up, and now i cant delete files from it:  "Error while deleting.  Failed to delete the item from the trash"
[18:23] <chattta> Any help on how I can delete files on this partition?  Thanks!
[18:23] <CoolCon> working on it
[18:23] <CoolCon> still 'loading'
[18:24] <cobol000_> how can i convert a doc file to text?
[18:24] <CoolCon> Error mounting location:
[18:24] <ActionParsnip__> !trash | chattta
[18:24] <CoolCon> couldn't mount shared windows folder
[18:24] <HeaVenGh0st> how can I edit xorg.confg from root?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip__> chattta: make sure you are the owner of all the files
[18:24] <jordanbuchman> how would i do wine on terminal if my thing is Shockwave_Installer_Full
[18:24] <jordanbuchman> .exe
[18:24] <CreatureOfLegend> Hi, all! I ran ubuntu automatic updates about a week ago, and now my computer is unusable. I am unable to log in at all. When I try to log in, the screen blinks a couple of times as if changing resolution, plays a login sound, then goes back to the login screen. Could someone please help me w/ this? :)
[18:25] <arand> jordanbuchman: first of all, what do you want a wined shockwave for, anyway to try to start the exe run "wine shockwave_installer_name.exe" (replace with correct filename and path to the file)..
[18:25] <CreatureOfLegend> I don't remember what the updates were for, I just ran them all.
[18:25] <HeaVenGh0st> how can I edit xorg.confg from root?
[18:25] <CoolCon> someone?
[18:25] <arand> jordanbuchman: also mind that filenames are case sensitive
[18:26] <HeaVenGh0st> how can I edit xorg.conf from root?
[18:26] <jordanbuchman> ughhh what does that mean
[18:26] <arand> HeaVenGh0st: "nano /path/to/Xorg.conf"
[18:26] <minimec> HeaVenGh0st: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:26] <urlwallace> CreatureOfLegend,  what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:26] <jordanbuchman> and i cant get shockwave for amd64
[18:26] <jordanbuchman> what is a path to the file mean
[18:26] <urlwallace> and 32 bit 0r 64 bit?
[18:27] <maverick> can someone help me figure out opera download manager integration in the latter part of this link? http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/59457
[18:27] <arand> jordanbuchman: are you trying to install flash?
[18:27] <LOLsaurusRex> Halp! I say Halp!
[18:27] <Jowi> CoolCon, set a password to the samba share and try again (it should prompt you for username and password with gvfs-mount)
[18:27] <CreatureOfLegend> urlwallace: I think it's 9.10. It's 32 bit
[18:27] <LOLsaurusRex> Is there a way to update acrobat reader in Ubuntu 9.10?
[18:27] <HeaVenGh0st> minimec: it is coming as a new file why?
[18:27] <HeaVenGh0st> i need to edit that existing file
[18:27] <CoolCon> maybe it's needed to say i can't ping the ip
[18:28] <chattta> re: can't delete files from filled-up storage partition:  The files are clearly visible, and I am the owner/creator of the files and have deleted files before.  The problem has just started since my file storage partition filled up.  Ideas?  Help?
[18:28] <HeaVenGh0st> i need to edit that existing file
[18:28] <HeaVenGh0st> minimec: it is coming as a new file why?
[18:28] <trism> cobol000_: open the doc file in openoffice and File/Save As and select Text (.txt) as the format
[18:28] <chaosphere> CoolCon: you said, you deleted the password for the user at the win7-box? i thinks it's not possible to connect without a password.
[18:28] <urlwallace> CreatureOfLegend,  have you tried to login in diagnostic mode
[18:29] <jordanbuchman> can anyone answer me
[18:29] <jordanbuchman> yes
[18:29] <jordanbuchman> but shockwave flash
[18:29] <CoolCon> no, i disabled the need for a logged in user
[18:29] <jordanbuchman> not normal flash
[18:29] <FloodBot3> jordanbuchman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <ControlsFreak> I just booted off of a karmic live CD, and installed LVM2, but cant seem to see my LV's. The show up in the system-config-lvm application, but /dev/mapper is empty except for "control"
[18:29] <LOLsaurusRex> Is there a way to update acrobat reader or do I have to uninstall the previous version and install the latest one?
[18:29] <rajmahendra> anyone using MUSH/MUD free client in Ubuntu ?
[18:29] <CoolCon> so everybody can see the files without a username password
[18:29] <AGoldstein> Question about Wubi Ubuntu: I installed Ubuntu on my Windows computer with the "Install Inside of Windows" option, but it had a lot of bugs, so I decided to uninstall it. Even after uninstalling it through the "Add/Remove Programs", every time i boot it still asks to load Ubuntu or Windows, even though i unninstalled it. How do i get that to go away?
[18:29] <CreatureOfLegend> urlwallace: I'm not sure how. I have 3 login options: gnome, failsafe gnome and xterm. both gnomes don't work. xterm allows me to log in, but doesn't give me a windows environment, just the command line that I don't know what to do with.
[18:29] <sclimans> arand, I did as you said and I am still having the same problems.  I reinstalled it with checkinstall, and then removed it from the package system.  I then tried reinstalling it through the package system, but I get the exact same error messages as before when I try to run it.
[18:29] <arand> HeaVenGh0st: seems like there are no xorg.conf by deafult in Karmic...
[18:29] <Jowi> CoolCon, "smbclient -L 192.168.0.1" - btw, is the windows PC really on 192.168.0.1, that address is normally a gateway?
[18:29] <CoolCon> this works, since my win7--win7 connection works
[18:30] <AGoldstein> Question about Wubi Ubuntu: I installed Ubuntu on my Windows computer with the "Install Inside of Windows" option, but it had a lot of bugs, so I decided to uninstall it. Even after uninstalling it through the "Add/Remove Programs", every time i boot it still asks to load Ubuntu or Windows, even though i unninstalled it. How do i get that to go away?
[18:30] <sclimans> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78bfd6a9
[18:30] <rajmahendra> Anyone using any good MUSH/MUD free client in Ubuntu ?
[18:30] <urlwallace> AGoldstein, thats a bug that stayed with me till I reformmatted, I dont suggest that as an option but I could not and lived with it
[18:30] <trism> rajmahendra: gnome-mud is pretty decent and scriptable
[18:31] <AGoldstein> urlwallace: is there a way to just reset the windows boot manager or whatever manages that?
[18:31] <lantizia> When FX 3.6 comes out... will we get it in 9.10 or will a PPA be needed?
[18:31] <CoolCon> my gateway is 192.168.0.254
[18:31] <rajmahendra> trism: how to install it ?
[18:31] <trism> rajmahendra: sudo apt-get install gnome-mud;
[18:31] <Jowi> CoolCon, "smbclient -L ip.add.re.ss" will list available shares on the IP address. do you get an output?
[18:32] <urlwallace> AGoldstein, you could check your win boot loader and see if grub added a line
[18:32] <CoolCon> no
[18:32] <arand> sclimans: hmm, then I'm not sure.. might try removing the config files in the home directory (~/.gnome-do , ~/.config/gnome-do or something like that)
[18:32] <AGoldstein> do you know where the win boot loader is located?
[18:32] <CoolCon> i get Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL)
[18:32] <CoolCon> same output is before
[18:32] <BluesKaj> AGoldstein, you could open a dos terminal and type fixmbr if you're on XP , vista however is a different story ..not sure how to fix that
[18:32] <LOLsaurusRex> How do I update acrobat reader to the latest version in Ubuntu?  Is there a command I can use?
[18:32] <urlwallace> AGoldstein,  one moment
[18:32] <AGoldstein> thank god i use xp.
[18:33] <Kai_> ...
[18:33] <tetiana> !sound
[18:33] <jolaren> Does anyone know if BackTrack has their own channel on freenode?
[18:33] <Jowi> CoolCon, so check that windows share, firewall etc. You should be able to ping it and get a list of available shares with smbclient command.
[18:33] <sclimans> arand: neither of those directories exist
[18:34] <rajmahendra> trism: i installed but i dont see it !
[18:34] <terrelltp> hello
[18:34] <arand> jordanbuchman: If things don't work with normal flash (most things should): you could have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[18:34] <terrelltp> anyone
[18:34] <terrelltp> i have a question
[18:34] <trism> rajmahendra: it should be under Applications/Games/Gnome MUD
[18:34] <terrelltp> does installing apps from unknown sources make ur phone slow
[18:34] <rajmahendra> trism: woow yes thank you :)
[18:34] <sclimans> Try as I might, I still cannot get gnome's panel to completely disappear.  There is a one-pixel thick strip that remains.  Any ideas?  What exact values should I put in the gconf-editor to make the panel completely disappear?
[18:34] <GG19> anyone know where I should go to format a slave HDD?
[18:34] <IdleOne> terrelltp: how is that ubuntu related?
[18:35] <urlwallace> AGoldstein,  bootmgr ..I will have to to stop here for my win vista is on the other partiton so I cant be sure of exact procedure without being able to confirm it..google is possible alternative, sory
[18:35] <CoolCon> Jowi, disabled the firewall, crossing fingers :)
[18:35] <rtdp> terrelltp: yes it makes phone slow.. i had same experiance..
[18:35] <terrelltp> like how many is it a certain ammount
[18:35] <GG19> I explored the HDD and deleted everything but it still says 300mb+ is being use
[18:35] <CoolCon> still gives same error
[18:35] <ajamison5579> GG19 you could try gparted for a graphical format tool apt-get install gparted
[18:35] <d3mon> -_-
[18:35] <CoolCon> Jowi, pinging works :)
[18:36] <GG19> ajamison5579,  thank you Ill try that
[18:36] <BluesKaj> gonna stretch out in my easy chair with tha laptop ..bbiab
[18:36] <new_here> lol, nice bot
[18:36] <ajamison5579> gg19 no problem it does alot more then formating but probably the easiest way to do things
[18:36] <AGoldstein> urlwallace, thank you very much. i'm not sure why, but my xp cmd doesn't have the command fixmbr.
[18:36] <Boobek> LOLsaurusRex, when your system is updated with updatemanager, than the adobe is updated too. (if you ar installed it with the ubuntu's packagemanager)
[18:36] <terrelltp> rtdp is it a certain ammount u think that slows the phone down
[18:36] <rtdp> terrelltp: sometimes a single bad application also makes it slow.. i had many like that.. and then customer care updated OS and formatted all data and then only it worked
[18:36] <CoolCon> how can i set another username?
[18:36] <CoolCon> in smbclient
[18:37] <new_here> /nick
[18:37] <Ascavasaion> Can someone help me to setup DNS at EditDNS.net?
[18:37] <GG19> ajamison5579,  installing it now
[18:37] <new_here> /nick nick
[18:37] <Jowi> CoolCon, well, if smbclient fails I'm not sure where to check next... I'm off to dinner. bbl
[18:37] <new_here> CoolCon /nick new_nick
[18:37] <CoolCon> i tried to set the username for smbclient, not for irc ;)
[18:38] <urlwallace> your welcome AGoldstein ,xp does have a text file in the c:\ root that has the parameters your looking for..cant remember filename at this point
[18:38] <new_here> ok
[18:38] <new_here> well, im leaving
[18:38] <ajamison5579> gg19 great hope it works well for your needs
[18:38] <AGoldstein> ok, time to do some more googling. thanks
[18:38] <terrelltp> rtdp thanks i think imma factory reset my phone again
[18:38] <sclimans> Try as I might, I still cannot get gnome's panel to completely disappear.  There is a one-pixel thick strip that remains.  Any ideas?  What exact values should I put in the gconf-editor to make the panel completely disappear?
[18:38] <CoolCon> still getting the same error
[18:39] <sam1988> hello
[18:39] <CoolCon> can somebody help?
[18:40] <GG19> ajamison5579,  it sdb ntsf HDD is the one to format right? not the sda ext3 one
[18:40] <Ascavasaion> No help... as per usual... bleh
[18:40] <ajamison5579> gg19 right sda is your main HDD
[18:40] <ajamison5579> gg19 sdb is your secondary
[18:40] <LOLsaurusRex> Boobek: So I don't need to update it manually?  The new version is 9.3, and the version I have is 9.2.  If they put it in the repo it will update with the next time I apply updates?
[18:40] <IdleOne> Ascavasaion: that site probably has a FAQ or a forum
[18:41] <GG19> ajamison5579,  thanks :)
[18:41] <ajamison5579> gg19 no problem hope it helps :)
[18:41] <shadowhywind>  hay all running into a problem trying to add a printer, its coming up with a Printer Configuration does not provide an interface 'KCModule' If i start systemsetting from the console I get This module has no valid entry symbol at all. The reason could be that it's still using K_EXPORT_COMPONENT_FACTORY with a custom X-KDE-FactoryName which is not supported anymore any ideas?
[18:41] <CoolCon> someone who can help me connecting windows 7 to ubuntu?
[18:42] <ajamison5579> CoolCon what exactly is the issue and how have you setup sharring on Windows 7
[18:42] <rtdp> CoolCon: what's prob ?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: connect both to a router, there is then a connection
[18:42] <CoolCon> I share with samba, have a share in windows 7 called f, and can't connect to it using ubuntu, since it gives errors like 'couldn't mount share'
[18:43] <CoolCon> i can ping
[18:43] <urlwallace> Ascavasaion, have you thought of using opendns more user friendly with per domain blocking
[18:43] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: win7 has issues with samba
[18:43] <CoolCon> i noticed
[18:43] <CoolCon> but earlier it worked in karmic
[18:43] <Ascavasaion> urlwallace: Is it free?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: if you can ping then you have a connection. Samba is a bit more than a connection :)
[18:43] <CoolCon> i know
[18:43] <urlwallace> yes
[18:43] <ajamison5579> if you change your network setup so that windows 7 is not in a homegroup it will work better
[18:43] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: if you share folders using samba yuo can try using the full path of the share from windows
[18:43] <ajamison5579> windows homegroups are horrid to get to work through samba
[18:43] <CoolCon> how can i get it out of the homegroup?
[18:44] <Ascavasaion> urlwallace: thank you... on my way there.
[18:44] <urlwallace> it can also block some dns attacks
[18:44] <urlwallace> ok you are welcome
[18:44] <CoolCon> i connect using smb://192.168.0.1/f
[18:44] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: if you run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    you can set a samba password which makes things a lot nicer
[18:44] <CreatureOfLegend> I ran ubuntu automatic updates about a week ago, and now my computer is unusable. I am unable to log in at all. When I try to log in, the screen blinks a couple of times as if changing resolution, plays a login sound, then goes back to the login screen. I don't remember what the updates were for, I just ran them all. I am only able to log in as "xterm", which just brings up a command line window. Could someone please help me w/ thi
[18:44] <GG19> ajamison5579,  I formatted it but it still shows its using 300mb+
[18:44] <CoolCon> litterly sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[18:45] <CoolCon> or should i replace $USER
[18:45] <CoolCon> with my username
[18:45] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: yes but dont run it as root, use a user
[18:45] <ajamison5579> gg19 hmm does it show any other partitions on the drive?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: the $USER will then be your users name
[18:45] <CoolCon> so smbpasswd -a Twan in my case
[18:45] <urlwallace> CreatureOfLegend, have you thought about a reinstall I know its severe but at that point I had to
[18:45] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: if you like, the $USER will translate to the right ting for you
[18:45] <CoolCon> or is it twan, since that's my user name in ubuntu (lowercase)
[18:45] <Out_Cold> so i just installed the UNR on an eeepc. I had a crash that brought up a tray icon but it disappeared. I was wondering what the app was called.
[18:45] <psycovic> how do i install a specific version of a kernel?
[18:46] <CoolCon> okay
[18:46] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: the case is important too, so use $USER like I said
[18:46] <psycovic> i want to install 2.6.31-15, but i don't know which package to install
[18:46] <CoolCon> without the sudo, right?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip__> psycovic: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic
[18:46] <linuxuz3r> hi
[18:46] <linuxuz3r> can someone help me
[18:46] <Out_Cold> !ask
[18:46] <CreatureOfLegend> urlwallace: Yeah, I thought about it. I'm trying to see if I can maybe fix it, 'cause I had stuff installed and if I reinstall the OS I'm gonna have to reinstall everything, and you know what a pain it is to install stuff on linux (like the graphics tablet, etc)
[18:46] <psycovic> ActionParsnip__: thanks
[18:46] <GG19> says partition unallocated; file system unallocated, size 28.62gb, used ---, unused ---, flags
[18:47] <psycovic> ActionParsnip__: i don't need to install the headers?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: yes, then when windows tries to connect you will be asked for authentication and you will not only know you are hitting the samba service
[18:47] <urlwallace> CreatureOfLegend,  I understand
[18:47] <CreatureOfLegend> and I'm not confident I'll be able to find all of the install instructions too.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: but you will also be authenticated as a user and will have correct access privs etc
[18:47] <ActionParsnip__> psycovic: you can install them if you wish
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> when i type in the terminal update-grub i get this errorFound Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sdb1
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> can someone help
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> !grub
[18:47] <CoolCon> it says that 'smbpasswd -a $USER' has to run as root
[18:48] <Mud> trism I am not a software package :<
[18:48] <Mud> :+
[18:48] <GG19> ajamison5579,  its all grayed out
[18:48] <CoolCon> what should i set as smb password?
[18:48] <psycovic> ActionParsnip__: what do they do?
[18:48] <CoolCon> password for win 7?
[18:48] <trism> Mud: you aren't, but your brother gnome-mud is
[18:48] <Mud> CoolCon a safe password
[18:48] <GG19> ajamison5579,  unallocated
[18:48] <CoolCon> just 'a' password
[18:48] <Mud> :+
[18:48] <Mud> _O-
[18:48] <CoolCon> I did
[18:49] <CoolCon> so now what?
[18:49] <Mud> hmm ye but I never found him trism :<
[18:49] <Ascavasaion> urlwallace: Easier you say?  I cnanot even find the fields where I direct the Ns to my site hosted on ISP's computers.
[18:49] <Mud> I lost him a few years ago _O-
[18:49] <ActionParsnip__> psycovic: they are good for when you need to make kernel modules (vbox and nvidia drivers need them)
[18:49] <quazar> #pl
[18:49] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: now the pass is set, on the windows system run: \\ubuntu_host_name_here\share_name_here
[18:50] <Ziber> !udev
[18:50] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: you will be asked for credentials wich you can now provide
[18:50] <ajamison5579> gg19 from a terminal do sudo fdisk -l and paste it to paste.org then post the link so i can see if i can figure it out
[18:50] <Ziber> !pkg_info udev
[18:50] <urlwallace> well all I can say is I put the dns in the local router. as far as multi website hosting setup that is beyond my scope, sory
[18:51] <__raven> can UNISON synchronize in near REALTIME?
[18:52] <Kent> Hi, I need help. I used a windows web spider in XP to download 5GB of an 8GB archive
[18:52] <ActionParsnip__> !info unison
[18:52] <Kent> But I'm in Ubuntu now, how can I resume the download process with a different program?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: it'll go as fast as the link between will transfer te data
[18:52] <CreatureOfLegend> Ok, one last thing: how does one deactivate the automatic updates?
[18:52] <linuxuz3r> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[18:52] <linuxuz3r> can someone help
[18:52] <CoolCon> though i'm trying to connect ubuntu with windows (A)
[18:52] <CoolCon> not windows to ubuntu
[18:53] <GG19> ajamison5579, http://paste.org/pastebin/view/14657
[18:53] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: ok then in nautilus's address bar type: smb://windows_hostname_here\share_name_here
[18:53] <linuxuz3r> can someone help me please
[18:53] <linuxuz3r> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for
[18:53] <CoolCon> it gives an error: Error mounting location: Kon gedeelde Windows-map niet aankoppelen
[18:53] <CoolCon> yes my ubuntu is dutch
[18:54] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, i need to have the home folder on two pcs synchronized always - in at least every minute - but i have to start it by hand every time and then it checkes everything over an hour - 60 gb - what can i do?
[18:54] <ajamison5579> gg19 is the 30gb drive the one you are having issues with
[18:54] <linuxuz3r> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for windows 7
[18:54] <linuxuz3r> grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for windows 7
[18:54] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: cron the job to run every minute
[18:55] <GG19> ajamison5579,  they both are 30gb the bottom HDD is the one.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: can you translate then please
[18:55] <CoolCon> Error mounting location: Kon gedeelde Windows-map niet aankoppelen (couldn't mount windows share)
[18:55] <oCean_> ActionParsnip__: CoolCon it says "could not mount shared windows folder"
[18:55] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: make sure the windows firewall (or your own firewall) allows the traffic
[18:55] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: and check the share name
[18:56] <CoolCon> it's completely off
[18:56] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: as well as the share name
[18:56] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, but the process lasts for more than one minute - then i'll have thousands of processes or it'll never be successful
[18:56] <CoolCon> i use an ip
[18:56] <ajamison5579> gg19 is that the entire output of fdisk -l? I am specificicaly looking for things like dm-0 and things of that nature that may be in the output. If it is not the full output can you please post the entire output of fdisk -l
[18:56] <CoolCon> 192.168.0.1, for sure
[18:56] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: then you will need to time to see how often you can run it
[18:56] <GG19> ajamison5579,  is it possible to install another OS on the second HDD and choose what HDD to boot from when I start up the computer? I'm sure I'd need to adjust the bios or something.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip__> CoolCon: as I said, samba has issues with win7 as I've seen it. maybe samba4 is needed. Ive not used it but it may help. have a look into it
[18:57] <Boobek> LOLsaurusRex, sorry for late answere. I dont know the package maintainer when upgrade the acrobat reader. if u want to the newest download it from adobe: http://get.adobe.com/reader/ and install it from commandline
[18:57] <ajamison5579> you can yes gg19 that is called dual-booting
[18:57] <oCean_> !dualboot | GG19
[18:57] <prospero977> I'm using irssi. Are there any nice irc clients out there other than?
[18:58] <schasch> helo,anyone an idea to start one windows with 3 terminal inside? (for mutt,top and tail) ?
[18:58] <oCean_> prospero977: depends on your preferences. Maybe you'd like xchat
[18:58] <GG19> ajamison5579,  yeah thats all the info minus "---@---desktop"
[18:58] <prospero977> xchat --will be sure to try it.
[18:58] <Ziber> anyone use xen on ubuntu 9.04 (or ubuntu 9.10) and have it working with multiple DomU's?
[18:58] <CoolCon> now i can't even ping :S
[18:59] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, is not possible to start it as background process so that it makes a protocol instead of check every file every time?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: cron will run as a service and the copying with run as a service too
[18:59] <GG19> ajamison5579,  I'm begining to think the drive just uses that 300+mb by default even if its cleaned.
[18:59] <ajamison5579> gg19 if both drives are in the machine and the second is not a USB drive it should be very easy to setup a dual-boot
[18:59] <oCean_> schasch: multiple tabs for one terminal will not do for you? (ctrl-shift-t)
[19:00] <ajamison5579> the filesystem uses some space
[19:00] <CoolCon> thx for help, leaving right now... problem is still there unfortunately
[19:00] <schasch> oCean: if I can see them all?
[19:00] <LOLsaurusRex> Boobek: Thanks for your help mate.
[19:00] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, yes but this will not change the process (checking-protocol) but only the automatism
[19:00] <Ziber> anyone use xen on ubuntu 9.04 (or ubuntu 9.10) and have it working with multiple DomU's? or anyone able to upgrade udev to version 150?
[19:00] <schasch> oCean:with tabs I only see one  :-(
[19:01] <ajamison5579> but if you do not have one installed then it should not be allocated gg19. also often HDD sizes are rounded up so a 1tb will never be able to use more then 953 for example
[19:01] <ajamison5579> or something like that
[19:01] <oCean_> schasch: well, you would have to "tab" through the tabs. I think you're looking for a split screen?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: true, if you use rsync it will only transmit the changes which will be quicker
[19:01] <oCean_> schasch: you could just open multiple terminalwindows, you know?
[19:01] <GG19> would I just use the same tprogram I formatted to make a partition and then load an OS on it and then restart the pc and it give me the option what one to start from?
[19:01] <ikonia> Ziber: don't upgrade udev outside of the repos
[19:01] <schasch> oCean: yes
[19:01] <GG19> ajamison5579,  thats probably the case then
[19:01] <oCean_> schasch: why not open multiple terminals then? I have tons of 'em open during the day..
[19:01] <Ziber> ikonia: how am i supposed to get xen to work with multiple domu's then?
[19:02] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, right but rsync only updates into one direction - i have a special problem it seems....?
[19:02] <schasch> oCean: 3 time gnome-terminal is no good solution
[19:02] <ikonia> Ziber: well, first of all, a.) how do you know udev is the problem, that response will lead how to progress
[19:02] <ajamison5579> gg19 it is a little more complex then that
[19:02] <oCean_> !info terminator | schasch, ok this might be something:
[19:02] <ajamison5579> but it depends on what os you install on the other drive
[19:03] <Ziber> ikonia: its a reported bug with ubuntu, according to xensource.
[19:03] <GG19> ajamison5579,  assuming my bios is set to boot from HDD, I'm just confued if it will boot from my ubuntu hdd and not give me an option to boot from my other hdd or will it force me to pick?
[19:03] <schasch> oCean_ it suprises me that it do not exist (only terminator, a pythonscript)
[19:03] <ikonia> Ziber: ok, so my suggestion would be to log a bug against the udev package on launchpad quoting the xen bug and open a dialog with the udev maintainer team
[19:03] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: sounds like it, ive not done bi-directional
[19:03] <schasch> oCean;ubottu yes, terminator...but that could not be paramerter'd
[19:03] <fcuk112> my torrent box refuses to boot, when i use live cd to boot and try gparted it doesn't recognise the file system - how to i fix the boot sector?
[19:03] <Ziber> :/
[19:04] <schasch> for 3 terminal and the 3 apps
[19:04] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, could you imagine any solution with this: http://fileschanged.sourceforge.net/ ?
[19:04] <ajamison5579> gg19 it depends if your bios can read both drives then often you can use GRUB (the ubuntu loader) to load both it will give you a choice at boot and you pick one
[19:04] <ajamison5579> gg19 but i would need more specific specs on your setup and what you want to do to say for sure
[19:05] <GG19> i was trying to use virtualbox but it was slowing my pc to much and never finished thats why i rather dual-boot
[19:05] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: you'll have to experiment with some dummy data to then transfer to the prime time
[19:05] <schasch> oCean;ubottu: and I am not succeeding to path it(too stupid)
[19:05] <mtaftm> hey guys just wondering: is there a game like the sims for linux ?
[19:05] <mcarse> I am trying to help a friend with a eee 701, does anyone have any advice to get the sd card reader working in 9.10?
[19:05] <schasch> asked too on the IRC of terminator...not possible yet...
[19:06] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, difficult because i have not much time to test it in every detail
[19:06] <esprit> hi all
[19:06] <oCean_> schasch: what do you mean?
[19:06] <esprit> I wonder if someone could help me
[19:06] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, what do you think about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655969
[19:06] <Elite> ïðåò
[19:06] <esprit> I have a problem on conecting a network between a ubuntu and a windoes
[19:06] <paragonc> if i have a second install of ubuntu on /dev/sdb3 how do i tell grub to boot it?
[19:06] <danyR> hi there guys. needing some help: my keyboard layout is all messed up, impossible to write, but just after the gdm prompt. .xsession-errors says ""Setting IM through im-switch for locale=pt_PT.  Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/x11/xinit/xinput.d/default
[19:06] <esprit> cannot acces windows directories from my ubuntu
[19:06] <obiwan_> ay guys, lpease, short answers. i can use a gpg keypair to sign & encrypt files, or one keypair to sign & un subkeypair to encrypt. Advantages of 1 key) simple, you don't need to mess around with 2 keys. disadvantages) if you get cracked the key, they can both sign and decrypt your files. I don't think of this like a real problem, cause if you get your sign key comprised, they can drive you into troubles anyway. So please, short answers :;)
[19:06] <GG19> AMD 2400+ CPU, 3X 256Mb RAM, ATI Radeon 9550 256Mb GPU.
[19:07] <schasch> oCean;ubottu: i mean to patch...that it starts splitted in 3 terminals
[19:07] <esprit> cannot understand qhy
[19:07] <esprit> wh
[19:07] <Kent> How do I resume the downloading of a website using a Webspider that I started in windows, but want to finish in Ubuntu?
[19:07] <esprit> why
[19:07] <ajamison5579> gg19 but what other OS are you attempting to use
[19:07] <schasch> my python is not goog enough
[19:07] <Elite> ukraine the best
[19:07] <DILS-VBOX> !samba
[19:07] <GG19> ajamison5579,  lolz Win 98 SE haha
[19:07] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: looks neat, you'd have to test
[19:07] <oCean_> schasch: aha, dunno about that.
[19:07] <esprit> hi all
[19:07] <esprit> hi
[19:07] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, ok i'll try - tnx
[19:07] <Elite> timati cool
[19:07] <schasch> oCean; dunno?
[19:08] <ajamison5579> well that should not be to horrible to setup gg19
[19:08] <OerHeks> obiwan_ what is your question ?? i can't make a question out of your story ...
[19:08] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: if you backup the intended data you can go to town on the real data to test actual performance, you can restore whenever you need
[19:08] <ajamison5579> since your doing windows after ubuntu it will require a little tweaking to get both working but can be done gg19
[19:08] <syn-ack> Good afternoon boys and girls
[19:08] <oCean_> schasch: meaning don't know (sorry). Maybe this has something interesting? : http://www.64bitjungle.com/ubuntu/split-screen-gnome-terminals-with-terminator-in-ubuntu/
[19:08] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, yes i'll have to take some time ;)
[19:09] <schasch> oCean: I google the hole day....  grrrrr...  thanks I'll have a look
[19:09] <GG19> ajamison5579,  what if I remove my Ubuntu HDD and put the clean HDD in and install Win98 SE and then put my Ubuntu HDD back in and turn on the PC would it work that way and ask what to boot from?
[19:09] <obiwan_> hahahah OerHeks lawl :P
[19:09] <obiwan_> OerHeks: the question is, should i use one key or not?
[19:10] <oCean_> schasch: ok. Good luck with that. Have to leave...
[19:10] <obiwan_> OerHeks: i already told the advantage and disadvantages over using one key vs one key+subkey
[19:10] <ajamison5579> gg19 umm possibly but that is alot more work then you need to do
[19:10] <apipkin> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 (again) and i installed php5 and the include path in the ini is /usr/share/php not the /usr/share/php5 that the php5 install creates. should the ini be updated or should the folder be renamed?
[19:10] <xxx_> hey guys. i'm having a problem with my ralink rt2860 on ubuntu. i'm using it as dual boot (together windows7) and always i use the 7 my wireless card stop working on ubuntu
[19:10] <OerHeks> obiwan_ pgp allways uses 2 keys, to encrypt and to decrypt, so i suggest 2 keys
[19:10] <GG19> ajamison5579,  but for a n00b it might work better?
[19:11] <xxx_> someone can help me???
[19:11] <tetiana> the sound doesn't work in ubuntu 9.10, help plase
[19:11] <DILS-VBOX> GG19, or just chage boot order when you wnat to use it
[19:11] <ajamison5579> if you want to do that you would still need to edit grub to see windows gg19 the easiest way is do windows then install ubuntu it will automaticaly pickup windows
[19:12] <schasch> oCean; yes...but this can not be automated to start 3 time bash for ex. (this one is python I try to patch to start split'd
[19:12] <GG19> ajamison5579,  it would just be swapping IDE cables and HDD jumpers temporarily
[19:12] <weber> I can not figure this issue out for the life of me...My mouse stops working randomly and nothing fixes it except for a complete reboot. I've tried two different mice.
[19:12] <tetiana> !sound
[19:12] <zhbvgt> http://www.pandamailer.de/?bettel=pimbolli
[19:12] <techwizrd> When I'm ssh-ing into servers that have my SSH key in gnome-terminal, how can I get ubuntu to fill my password in for me. I did it one time before, but haven't been able to figure it out since.
[19:12] <GG19> ajamison5579,  boot order from my bios?
[19:12] <sam1988> hello
[19:12] <schasch> oCean; terminator is python
[19:12] <fender68dg> my wireless network adapter is appearing its connected but when I try to ping the router it says the network is unreachable why can't I seem to conect?
[19:12] <DILS-VBOX> GG19, yea
[19:12] <xxx_> tetiana, when i installed my ubuntu and give a first time boot i had to loud the sound trought the icon on the tray
[19:12] <sam1988> can i ask for something????
[19:12] <xxx_> try it
[19:13] <ajamison5579> gg19 u can try that
[19:13] <ActionParsnip__> !ask | sam1988
[19:13] <GG19> hmm I will think on it a bit i guess lol
[19:14] <fcuk112> i tried sudo fdisk -l via the livecd, it says unable to seek /dev/sda.  is my hd corrupted or can i still recover grub2?
[19:14] <sam1988> any one have a miranda on ubuntu????
[19:14] <xxx_> some on here is having troubles with ralink rt2860????
[19:14] <ajamison5579> gg19 well i hope you get it straight i need to go have work to do so talk at you later
[19:14] <weber> I can not figure this issue out for the life of me...My mouse stops working randomly and nothing fixes it except for a complete reboot. I've tried two different mice.
[19:15] <EvilPenguin|> need help guys
[19:15] <EvilPenguin|> i have ubuntu 9.10 and im trying to use smb
[19:15] <mcarse> does anyone know how to get the sd card reader on the eee 701 in 9.10?
[19:15] <EvilPenguin|> with mac snow leopard
[19:15] <EvilPenguin|> any ideas?
[19:15] <esprit222> I have a problem on my network
[19:15] <xxx_> hey mcarse
[19:15] <realLife> help me please, I am using ubuntu 8.04 lts (wubi install) and I can't set the refresh rate above 60 hertz, its killing my eyes! :O
[19:15] <esprit222> I cannot see the windows directories in my ubuntu
[19:16] <esprit222> Can anyone help me?
[19:16] <mcarse> xxx_: hi
[19:16] <xxx_> do u have ur wireless works fine?????
[19:16] <denso> hey noob here, just wondered if windows is affected at all when I install ubuntu - eg. if I install it to another hardrive
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> realLife, are you using LCD or CRT?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip__> mcarse: can you pastebin the output of: lspci; lsusb     thanks
[19:16] <mcarse> everything seems to work except for the sd card reader
[19:16] <weber> Could uninstalling the restricted graphics driver possibly help my mouse situation?
[19:16] <EvilPenguin|> can somebody help me with samba?
[19:16] <DILS-VBOX> !samba | esprit222
[19:17] <redfive> denso: as long as you don't overwrte the windows install it wont change anythign abuot windows
[19:17] <realLife> ZykoticK9: im using teh crt monitor, it can handle 100 hertz in windows :<
[19:17] <denso> thanks
[19:17] <mcarse> xxx_: wireless is working to my knowledge
[19:17] <Jowi> denso, no, it will not affect the OS but YES, ubuntu will install a booloader in order to load the different OS's
[19:17] <ZykoticK9> realLife, k - just checking.  good luck.
[19:17] <realLife> woot
[19:17] <mcarse> xxx_: I am trying to help a friend actually, it is not my 701
[19:18] <infid> how can i install qt/pyqt 4?
[19:18] <tetiana> i don't have sound in ubuntu 9.10. Who can help me?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip__> mcarse: if you can get the output there may be issues with the model of card reader
[19:19] <weber> ok simpler question..."downgrading to a previous kernel" does this just mean going back to 9.04
[19:19] <Rubbberducky> rubberducky@computer:~$ su
[19:19] <Rubbberducky> Password:
[19:19] <Rubbberducky> su: Authentication failure
[19:19] <Rubbberducky> :(
[19:19] <jami> infid: just search the packages and install it
[19:19] <Jowi> Rubbberducky, sudo -i
[19:19] <ActionParsnip__> Rubbberducky: use:    sudo -s
[19:19] <redfive> weber: no, the kernel isn't necessarily tied to the kernel vreson
[19:19] <ZykoticK9> mcarse, with my 701 the SD card reader works by default (on 9.10 UNR), think the wireless worked by default as well (or after HW driver install in menu)
[19:20] <redfive> weber: os version i mean
[19:20] <EvilPenguin|> SMB HELP !
[19:20] <EvilPenguin|> please.
[19:20] <infid> jami but for qt4 all i see are qt4-demos, qt4-dev-tools, etc, but not simply 'qt4'
[19:20] <mcarse> ActionParsnip__: output of what? I seem to have missed something
[19:20] <Rubbberducky> woot -i   thanks! :)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip__> mcarse: lspci;lsusb
[19:20] <EvilPenguin|> SMB SMB SMB SMB
[19:20] <EvilPenguin|> somebody come on!
[19:20] <EvilPenguin|> this is pissing me off
[19:20] <FloodBot3> EvilPenguin|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <DILS-VBOX> then get a grip
[19:21] <weber> redfive...ok I have a mouse issue that some people have successfully resolved by downgrading to a previous kernel...how would I go about doing that?
[19:21] <Ascavasaion> anyone able to help me with DNS settings in EditDNS  please?  I am too damn stupid to do it myself.
[19:21] <jami> infid: and what is with libqt4-*
[19:21] <Jowi> EvilPenguin|, you haven't exactly stated what the problem is. Which is server, which is client and what is the problem?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip__> Ascavasaion: your dns servers are set in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:21] <EvilPenguin|> Jowi: smb help with osx and ubuntu
[19:22] <EvilPenguin|> smb wotn work
[19:22] <infid> jami yeah how do i know which libqt4-'s to install? theres like 40
[19:22] <jami> EvilPenguin: and waht exactly went wrong. Error output etc
[19:22] <Jowi> EvilPenguin|, give more info. I understood it doesn't work.
[19:22] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip__: no, DNS server for a website hosted on a remote machine.
[19:22] <redfive> weber: You could try to find a lower version package of linux-image adn install it
[19:22] <Rubbberducky> Is it possible to temporarily give my user account root privileges so I can drag and drop files rather than having to use terminal?
[19:22] <EvilPenguin|> Jowi: ok so i install SMB, and i set it up security= share
[19:22] <jami> infid: i thought libqt4-core
[19:22] <EvilPenguin|> change my workgroup name
[19:23] <EvilPenguin|> Jowi: and i try connecting on my imac. username/pass wont work on this side.
[19:23] <weber> redfive, you mean in the package manager?
[19:23] <EvilPenguin|> Jowi: so i set the username sudo smbpasswd -a username
[19:23] <infid> jami i think i need libqt4-core, -debug, -dev and -gui. i'll try it. thanks
[19:24] <tetiana> !sound
[19:24] <redfive> weber: i meant synaptic, but I just checked and there is only the latest kernel version in there
[19:24] <Ascavasaion> So, not a single person here has ever registered a website and set it up?  I find that hard to believe.
[19:24] <jami> infid: dev only if you want to compile something
[19:24] <Jowi> EvilPenguin|, ok. so 1. Ubuntu is SMB server. 2. OSX can connect to server but cannot authenticate... probably because the username/password is not accepted? sounds correct so far?
[19:25] <ZykoticK9> Rubbberducky, if you wanted you could start two nautilus windows with root priviledges (not really recommended generally) with the command "gksu nautilus &" the & is so you'll get the terminal back to run a second instance
[19:25] <esprit222> hi
[19:25] <jami> EvilPenguin: what did /var/log/samba/log.* say
[19:25] <redfive> weber: what kernel version do you have now (uname -r)
[19:25] <llutz> Ascavasaion: you mean A/SOA records for your site?
[19:25] <Ascavasaion> llutz: yes... and MX
[19:25] <EvilPenguin|> jami:  have yet to check it
[19:26] <esprit222> I have a problem on my network
[19:26] <esprit222> I cannot see the windows directories in my ubuntu
[19:26] <DILS-VBOX> !ddclient
[19:26] <esprit222> Can anyone help me?
[19:26] <jami> EvilPenguin: first step trace logs and syslogs
[19:26] <weber> redfive 2.6.31 - 17 - generic
[19:26] <obiwan_> ay guys, lpease, short answers. i can use a gpg keypair to sign & encrypt files, or one keypair to sign & un subkeypair to encrypt. Advantages of 1 key) simple, you don't need to mess around with 2 keys. disadvantages) if you get cracked the key, they can both sign and decrypt your files. I don't think of this like a real problem, cause if have 2 keys and you get your sign key cracked, they can drive you into troubles anyway. So please, short answers :;)
[19:27] <redfive> weber: okay, there are actually lower versions than that in the repositories.  search in synaptic for linux-image, and you should find ssome
[19:28] <llutz> Ascavasaion:  http://pastebin.com/m1e70c12d example
[19:28] <weber> ok redfive, I'll try it, thanks.
[19:28] <OerHeks> obiwan_ if if if.,.. if your key get cracked ...???
[19:29] <llutz> Ascavasaion: if you need www.yourdomain.com too, just add an A entry with "www" like the "mail" in my paste
[19:29] <jami> time for coffee
[19:29] <OerHeks> obiwan_ use a stronger encryption key then ..
[19:31] <sphenxes> my bookmarks have reached 3MB and it is very slowly or almost impossible to edit them in firefox. is there an open soucre book mark editor that can work with large bookmark file
[19:31] <llutz> Ascavasaion: does it help?
[19:32] <MaT-dg> I can't read a usb flashdrive in ubuntu. Works fine in windows though. When device is inserted kern.log gives me the following: http://pastebin.org/77785
[19:32] <obiwan_> OerHeks: yeah, but even if i use a stronger key, they say it's better to use a subkey to encrypt, so if you get your encryption subkey cracked, they still can't sign in your behalf
[19:33] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Not really... I am dumb.  I have  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/358171/ as my entries thus far.
[19:33] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: did you safetly remove it fro windows or jst rip it out?
[19:33] <AJ_Z0> obiwan_: Not an Ubuntu issue, but you can effectively ignore the threat of having your encrypted data decrypted. Anyone sufficiently motivated to get your data would not be using a cryptographic attack to get it no matter how many keys you use
[19:33] <llutz> Ascavasaion: thats just ns-set (nameservers)
[19:33] <realLife> http://www.imagehost.co.za/share-86EC_4B536589.html I cant increase my resolution above this and also my refresh rate is supposed to be 120hertz not 60 ! Help me please
[19:33] <Hilikus> bacula
[19:33] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: always rip them out, no problems for other flashdrives/external harddrives
[19:34] <llutz> Ascavasaion: i don't know editdns so i cannot really tell you where you have to put what entry.
[19:34] <AJ_Z0> Protect you public key with a well chosen and protected passphrase and take good care of it. Have a revocation ready in case you ever need it
[19:34] <obiwan_> ok AJ_Z0 , then i 'll use one for both. thanks you and OerHeks for your advice :)
[19:34] <inx-live> Hello!  How do tell what speed my RAM is via CLI?
[19:34] <AJ_Z0> obiwan_: You are adding pointless complexity. You only need one key pair
[19:35] <Andy14> hi
[19:35] <llutz> Ascavasaion: 1. set an empty field, type A, pointing to your servers IP   (domain.co.za   A   12.34.45.56)
[19:35] <AJ_Z0> Ignore that last comment
[19:35] <CaptainJones> Hello, How do I stop X in console?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: its bad for the data, i suggest you gracefully remove the device then try again
[19:35] <JackTIM> Hey guys... every time I log in it gives me the error box about not being able to write to .iceauthority, and I'm having trouble finding anything about the error.
[19:35] <inx-live> Hello!  How do tell what speed my RAM is via CLI?
[19:35] <llutz> Ascavasaion: 2. set an field "mail", type A, pointing to your servers IP   (mail.domain.co.za   A   12.34.45.56)
[19:35] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: the feature in windows is not there for kicks, its there for a reason
[19:36] <obiwan_> AJ_Z0: yeah , that's what i thought, but  i needed some confirmation :) thanks
[19:36] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: you are mistreating your hardware then wondering why you are getting issues....doesn't it strike you as coincidental?
[19:36] <llutz> Ascavasaion: 3. set an empty field , type MX, pointing to mail.domain.co.za   (  MX   mail.domain.co.za)
[19:36] <llutz> Ascavasaion: 4. set an field "www", type A, pointing to your servers IP   (www.domain.co.za   A   12.34.45.56)
[19:36] <llutz> Ascavasaion: done :)
[19:37] <inx-live> CaptainJones: please explain... you mean kill X from a console window or like tty1?
[19:37] <al_> how do you do a ls *.dll and include sub dris?
[19:37] <al_> dris=dirs
[19:37] <llutz> al -R
[19:37] <phaer> CaptainJones: Under Ubuntu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:37] <CaptainJones> I'm trying to install GPU drivers so I need to stop the X server
[19:37] <maco> al_: i would do "find . -name *.dll"
[19:38] <al_> maco: is there no option for sub dirs on the ls?
[19:38] <CaptainJones> I log out with ctrl+alt+f1
[19:38] <inx-live> How do tell what speed my RAM is via CLI?
[19:38] <llutz> al_: ls -R
[19:38] <Hilikus> CaptainJones: that doesnt log out
[19:38] <ActionParsnip__> inx-live: sudo lshw | less     may say
[19:38] <maco> al_: uh llutz is right about -R working, yeah
[19:39] <al_> llutz: ls *.dll -R gives no such file or directory?
[19:39] <phaer> inx-live: i guess it is somewhere in /proc ;)
[19:39] <CaptainJones> Hilikus: yeah but I'm in console and then I have to do something like sudo service *** stop!
[19:39] <OerHeks> CaptainJones sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:39] <JackTIM> al_ ls -r *.dll
[19:39] <Hilikus> CaptainJones: yes, if you do sudo service gdm stop then i will kill X, but it still wont log you out
[19:39] <phaer> CaptainJones: sudo service gdm stop ;)
[19:39] <Hilikus> it*
[19:39] <al_> JackTIM: dont work either
[19:40] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: plugged in windows, safe remove, plug in ubuntu, still nothing.
[19:40] <CaptainJones> thnx phaer
[19:40] <CaptainJones> I just need to stop X server to install drivers
[19:40] <Ascavasaion> llutz: number 2... Mail... is that pop.oak-leaf.co.za?
[19:40] <clocksys> from console using iwconfig, i have trouble connecting to new essid, seems to stay stuck on my home wifi, any suggestion?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: if you run: sudo fdisk -l    you will see the partition, you can manually mount it
[19:40] <dotblank> CaptainJones, for the nvidia ones right? Why are you not using the .deb?
[19:41] <llutz> Ascavasaion yout hosters mail-server
[19:41] <llutz> Ascavasaion: usually mail.yourdomain.co.za
[19:41] <CaptainJones> dotblank: I preffer the last from nvidia isn't it better?
[19:41] <jami> clocksys: what exactly happend
[19:41] <ArmyMan007> hello
[19:42] <jami> clocksys: have you tested nm-applet
[19:42] <ArmyMan007> what mount point should I choose for my EXT3 partition? I don't know which one to choose..
[19:42] <clocksys> jami i just get a hassle trying to connect to diff wifi apart from home
[19:42] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: sudo fdisk -l doesn't show the partition of the usb device
[19:42] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: then run:   dmesg | tail     to see what the kernel said when you put in the device
[19:42] <dotblank> CaptainJones, yes and no. the latest from nvidia has more bug fixes but I find to be more unstable. Also maintaining the kernel module is harder if you are not using dkms which the package in the repo sets up for you
[19:42] <apipkin> anyone know where to change the php5 include path on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[19:43] <apipkin> php.ini doesn't seem to do it
[19:43] <JackTIM> al_: ls -r --file-type .dll
[19:43] <ArmyMan007> what mount point should I choose for my EXT3 partition? I don't know which one to choose..
[19:43] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: which partition? your main one?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip__> ArmyMan007: you can mount to ANY folder you like (except in /proc)
[19:43] <CaptainJones> dotblank: It's for a game so what better? faster? and more stable?
[19:43] <ArmyMan007> Hilikus: my main one, not the swap
[19:43] <jami> apipkin: /etc/php5/cli/php.ini and /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[19:43] <Ascavasaion> llutz: number 3... mail.oak-leaf.co.za MX mail.oak-leaf.co.za?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip__> ArmyMan007: just create an empty folder some place (in /media or $HOME is common) and mount it
[19:44] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: are you installing ubuntu?
[19:44] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip__: ANYTHING?
[19:44] <clocksys> jami i'll look into nm-applet, i had use wicd and wifi-radar but both are unreliable, i prefer straight from console
[19:44] <JackTIM> rather -R
[19:44] <JackTIM> Sorry.
[19:44] <ArmyMan007> Hilikus: right now in the partition edit windows
[19:44] <llutz> Ascavasaion: is "oak-leaf.co.za" your domainname?
[19:44] <ArmyMan007> Hilikus: right now in the partition edit window
[19:44] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: if you are installing ubuntu it shoukd be /
[19:44] <JackTIM> al_; ls -R --file-type .dll
[19:44] <ActionParsnip__> ArmyMan007: sure, you can mount to /usr/share/stuff/data/submarine   if you want
[19:44] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Yes.
[19:44] <apipkin> jami: thanks! i didn't know there were two different ones :)
[19:44] <JackTIM> -r is reverse order, -R is recursive
[19:44] <jami> clocksys: iwup got a bad exit state or what do you mean
[19:44] <ActionParsnip__> ArmyMan007: as long as the folder exists it can be used
[19:44] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: thats the root of your whole syste,
[19:44] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip__: it would be easy, but i got normal options such as /home, /boot and other stuff...
[19:45] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: dmesg | tail : http://pastebin.org/77795
[19:45] <jami> apipkin: one for php CLI and one for apache mod
[19:45] <ActionParsnip__> ArmyMan007: if its a system based partition then it will need mounting to the relevant place, if its user data it can be mounted anywahere
[19:45] <dotblank> CaptainJones, I think it just becomes a pain when you update the kernel is all
[19:45] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:45] <maverick> windows = .exe, linux = ?
[19:45] <llutz> Ascavasaion: "<empty> MX mail.oak-leaf.co.za"
[19:45] <apipkin> and when i do php -i | grep include i'm getting results from the cli/php.ini
[19:46] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip__: i mounted it as /
[19:46] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: [sdb] READ CAPACITY failed    doesnt look good
[19:46] <ArmyMan007> Hilikus: i mounted it as /
[19:46] <clocksys> jami when i iwconfig to a new essid, then dhclient it trys obtaining the same ip stack from my home wifi
[19:46] <apipkin> that's why i wasn't seeing the update
[19:46] <JackTIM> maverick: depends on distro... but usually just about anything.
[19:46] <jami> apipkin: yes
[19:46] <Andy14> maverick: <nothing or .sh>
[19:46] <CaptainJones> dotblank: can I pm you I actualy newb in linux
[19:46] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: thats what it has to be
[19:46] <apipkin> jami: makes perfect sense :)
[19:46] <dotblank> CaptainJones, sure
[19:46] <EvilPenguin|> jami: the smb will only let me connect as guest.
[19:46] <ArmyMan007> Hilikus: thanks a bunch! :D
[19:46] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip__: thanks a bunch! :D
[19:46] <Hilikus> ArmyMan007: no problem :)
[19:46] <llutz> Ascavasaion: how many fields do you have in that settings-form?
[19:46] <Rubbberducky> I wish it was easier to move a file into a protected file... Terminal is a pain.
[19:46] <maverick> andy14, jackTM: thanks
[19:47] <apipkin> jami: it looks like it's commented out, should i be looking elsewhere?
[19:47] <jami> EvilPenguin: so the windows site user privileges are not set
[19:47] <adityag> how to change desktop background linux in using shell command ? using SSH
[19:47] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:47] <jami> apipkin: no uncomment it
[19:47] <EvilPenguin|> jami: how do i set them?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip__> Rubbberducky: you can use: gksudo nautilus     if you like, its very worthwhile learning to use terminal
[19:48] <sspy> à òóò ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðÿò?
[19:48] <blakkheim> adityag: why would you do that?
[19:48] <jami> apipkin: and put the zend/library path in
[19:48] <Ascavasaion> llutz: I now have 6 ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/358175/
[19:48] <jami> apipkin: that was you with the zend framework stuff right?
[19:48] <Rubbberducky> ActionParsnip__: What does that do?
[19:48] <JackTIM> Does anyone know how to fix the iceauthority config file write error on login?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip__> Rubbberducky: runs nautilus with elevated priveledges
[19:49] <adityag> blakkheim: want to change my friend's wallpaper using SSh
[19:49] <apipkin> jami: yeah that was me :)
[19:49] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:49] <jami> EvilPenguin: edit your share rights
[19:49] <Rubbberducky> hmmm ok thanks
[19:49] <blakkheim> adityag: just tell him how to do it
[19:49] <ActionParsnip__> JackTIM: make sure its owned by the correct username is a good first check
[19:49] <EvilPenguin|> jami: umm how!?
[19:49] <adityag> blakkheim: is there no solution ? i mean any shell cmd ?
[19:49] <jami> EvilPenguin|: i dont know ...
[19:50] <blakkheim> adityag: gconf-editor if he is using gnome
[19:50] <EvilPenguin|> jami:  lmfao
[19:50] <llutz> Ascavasaion: looks ok to me
[19:50] <cortex> I have eclipse installed and need to change the vm memory limits, this is supposedly done in eclipse.ini, but I can't find this file anywhere in etc or in my home folder.
[19:50] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: device works fine in windows though so either ubuntu can't handle the device (not a standard usb drive?) or somethings wrong with the drive?
[19:50] <Ascavasaion> llutz: NowI need to submit info to co.za and see if it is rejected yet again.
[19:50] <cortex> Where should I change the memory limits?
[19:50] <llutz> Ascavasaion: reject without reasons given?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: it is having issues with getting the size. i'd chkdsk it to e sure
[19:51] <JackTIM> Says it is owned by root, but I don't know what username the program that requires it is using.
[19:51] <rek> hi i need something to get the audio from u tube damn ActionParsnip__
[19:51] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Yes... reasons are given, but takes 5-10 minutes to be rejected.
[19:51] <JackTIM> I don't even know what program is trying to use it.
[19:51] <jami> cortex: vm project parameters
[19:51] <ActionParsnip__> rek: huh?
[19:51] <blakkheim> rek: i wrote a script to do just that
[19:51] <llutz> Ascavasaion: think positive, it will succeed :)
[19:52] <cortex> jami: yes, I know what I need to change, but I can't find the correct file to stick the changes into
[19:52] <iWolf> I have another problem with Wubi
[19:52] <eric_3> hello
[19:52] <blakkheim> iWolf: then don't use wubi
[19:52] <quinn> HI
[19:52] <jami> cortex: mom plz
[19:52] <iWolf> It downloads 9.10 is 30 seconds
[19:52] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:52] <rek> hi i need to do that
[19:52] <Ascavasaion> llutz: hehe
[19:52] <iWolf> blackk: But I want to dualboot
[19:52] <blakkheim> iWolf: then use the livecd and make a partition for ubuntu
[19:52] <ActionParsnip__> rek: do you get audio from any flash
[19:53] <rek> yep
[19:53] <iWolf> How?
[19:53] <rek> of course ActionParsnip__ but i hv sm issues o course
[19:53] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Request for update is sent... now we wait :)
[19:53] <blakkheim> iWolf: burn the livecd, go through the installer, shrink the windows partition, format the free space, install ubuntu
[19:53] <iWolf> Where do I shrink?
[19:54] <blakkheim> iWolf: in the partition editor
[19:54] <quinn> i am running 9.10 and my taskbars are messed up, plez help.
[19:54] <iWolf> Well
[19:54] <iWolf> Can you tell me why Wubi downloads 9.10 in atleast 30 seconds?
[19:54] <Andy14> quinn: how do you mean, "messed up"?
[19:54] <blakkheim> iWolf: no i can't, that's a vague question
[19:54] <greenland> ntify zero
[19:55] <Andy14> Wubi is kinda crappy in my opinion tho
[19:55] <rek> of course ActionParsnip
[19:55] <quinn> Andy14: i can't see them unless i make them really big and then part of them is off the screen
[19:56] <baltadt> is there a codec for the 3gp video files
[19:56] <infid> i have an HP Deskjet f4280 printer but ubuntu's hp-setup keeps showing f4200. will that still work?
[19:56] <Andy14> quinn:have you got one of this old, big monitors?^^
[19:56] <xxx_> w32codecs i guess
[19:56] <Andy14> quinn: or are you able to change the position of the screen, you know what I mean?
[19:57] <baltadt> I try to play it. it looks for codecs but can't find any
[19:57] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:57] <doncia> hello all : )
[19:57] <quinn> Andy14: I am not sure how to change the screen
[19:57] <EsatYuce> anybody can see my typing?
[19:57] <[NL]Tjibba> yeah
[19:57] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[19:57] <Ascavasaion> llutz: It was rejected... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/358178/
[19:57] <weber> Does anybody have any idea as to why my mouse stops working randomly (only a full reboot fixes it - the fix is temporary - it happens with two different mice)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip__> infid: sure, the 4280 is just a model in the 4200 series
[19:58] <Andy14> quinn:buttons on your monitor I guess
[19:58] <ActionParsnip__> infid: you can upgrade to the latest hplip on the hplip site which may add extra functionality
[19:58] <dotblank> weber, I hate to ask this but is this a laptop and have you accidently hit the fn-mouse or touchpad button
[19:58] <EvilPenguin|> jami: so i can see all my files shared, but i cant access them.
[19:58] <EvilPenguin|> jami:  any ideas why?
[19:58] <baltadt> is there a guru here for codecs?
[19:58] <Powderking> Hi all! I wanted to access via ssh to an Ubuntu server system I installed again. I get this message: Add correct host key in "/home/user/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message." I deleted the content of the file and it worked. But I'd like to know how to do it properly. Is there a way to add the key with a command? When I open the file it's a mess of characters =-O
[19:58] <weber> dotblank...this is a desktop
[19:59] <llutz> Ascavasaion: where do you have set a CNAME entry?
[19:59] <dotblank> weber, ok never mind then
[19:59] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[19:59] <inoh> hi, im trying to use ndiswrapper.  after running sudo depmod -a, it yields this error: WARNING: Couldn't find symtab and strtab in module /lib/modules/2.6.31-18-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko.  google cannot find anything on this.  how can i fix this?
[19:59] <wolter> baltadt, lol, I don't know. I am not one myself, but how can I help you? Since nobody else is.
[20:00] <dotblank> weber, it just sounds physical. and if your mouse is usb-based see if other usb devies work when it stops functioning may be indicitive of a bad host controller
[20:00] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:00] <jami> Powderking: do what the error msg says. Open vim, goto the line and delete THE LINE and not the whole file
[20:00] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:00] <baltadt> wolter:  xxx_ said to try w32codec so I am trying that now
[20:00] <weber> dotblank, what does that mean.
[20:01] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Nowhere... I will post the whole submission... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/358180/
[20:01] <wolter> oh ok baltadt
[20:01] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:01] <Powderking> jami: how can I find the line it's not readable
[20:01] <baltadt> well technically I need w64codec because it is a 64 bit system.
[20:01] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:02] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: chkdsk says no problems
[20:02] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[20:03] <jami> Powderking: hum? the message says /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts--->:12<---- line number
[20:03] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:03] <OerHeks> EvilPenguin| did you add a user, i read you add a pass
[20:03] <U78a_NEXT> Hi, I cannot download all the files to UPGRADE my system, the servers are too slow or not working. How do I switch servers?
[20:03] <jrib> EvilPenguin|: does it work elsewhere?
[20:04] <EvilPenguin|> OerHeks: how do i add a user?
[20:04] <jami> Powderking: hum? then open vim press :12 press dd press :wq
[20:04] <apipkin> thanks jami it's working great :)
[20:04] <Powderking> jami: Thx :-D
[20:04] <llutz> Ascavasaion: try leaving the NS fields 6a/6e empty, according to the whois, there's a ns-set defined
[20:04] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: then i'd try an fsck on the drive
[20:04] <jami> apipkin: great :)
[20:04] <EsatYuce> How can i add one printer with USB to my Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: what make / model?
[20:05] <llutz> Ascavasaion: if that doesn't work... no clue, sorry
[20:05] <EsatYuce> action HP LazerJet5200 L
[20:05] <datz> hi, when I left my machine yesterday, I tried the magnifier on the login screen, it froze the GUI. Now when I log in via ssh I see xorg using max cpu, what should I do?  I've already tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.  THat didn't work.
[20:05] <apipkin> even phpmyadmin is working properly now!
[20:05] <baltadt> xxx_: all that did way mess up the colors. It says I still need the AMR (adaptive multirate decoder) plugin
[20:05] <RoyK> hi all. how does gparted work with resizing ntfs partitions? win7 is installed on it
[20:05] <jrib> !pm | EvilPenguin|
[20:05] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__, HP LaserJet 5200L
[20:05] <EvilPenguin|> jrib / OerHeks: i added a password
[20:05] <EsatYuce> with USB
[20:06] <Ascavasaion> llutz: You mean remove free01.editdns.net and free02.editdns.net?
[20:06] <EvilPenguin|> jrib: how do i add a username.
[20:06] <llutz> Ascavasaion: yes
[20:06] <datz> jrib: any thoughts on my problem?
[20:06] <minimec> EsatYuce: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_5200l.html
[20:06] <objorn> sudo modprobe loop
[20:06] <objorn> FATAL: Module loop not found.
[20:06] <soopos> I got a VNC invitation by email. Which program does KDE has for it?
[20:06] <jrib> datz: what does "that didn't work" mean?
[20:06] <objorn> trying to mount an iso, any ideas what to do now?
[20:06] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:06] <quinn> Andy14: I didn't work
[20:06] <tsimpson> soopos: krdc
[20:06] <objorn> !iso
[20:06] <quinn> Andy14: It didn't work
[20:07] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: download and install the latest hplip and it will work perfectly: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_5200L
[20:07] <Hilikus> EvilPenguin|: does it work from other machines?
[20:07] <datz> jrib: xorg is still using 100 cpu
[20:07] <jrib> EvilPenguin|: smbpasswd if that's what you want to do
[20:07] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  ok
[20:07] <OerHeks> EvilPenguin|  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide should help you out > sudo adduser <user>  samba
[20:07] <datz> 100%*
[20:07] <jrib> datz: what was the output?
[20:07] <baltadt> wolter: do you have any ideas on how to fix the error....need AMR decoder plugin
[20:07] <Andy14> quinn: since when do you have the program? have you tried it in other OS's with same screen?
[20:07] <Andy14> problem not program
[20:07] <wolter> hmm.. let me see
[20:07] <d4n1> i need help
[20:08] <EvilPenguin|> OerHeks: pm?
[20:08] <d4n1> i need help
[20:08] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Those two lines removed, now we wait.
[20:08] <wolter> my xchat notifications are f*ed up.... it is no longer notify-osd
[20:08] <d4n1> im getting an error form apt-get
[20:08] <Andy14> d4n1: I guess everybody here needs help, ask your question
[20:08] <obiwan_> guys, one more question: let's say i got a server. Like a thousand people at same time download like 100 different files off my server. I know hd heads can't read at different points at once, so would the disk get crazy? the only solution i can work out is using a lot of cloned hdd, but that'd be ultrainefficent.
[20:08] <quinn> Andy14:Other os works fine
[20:08] <datz> jrib: it says to use the service utility
[20:08] <datz> like service gdm restart
[20:08] <jrib> datz: and when you do?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: can you use http://pastebin.com to give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:08] <Hilikus> obiwan_: it would. what about raid?
[20:08] <quinn> Andy14:do you know how to adjust screen resulution
[20:08] <jami> obiwan_: use a cache like squid
[20:08] <wolter> baltadt, what files are you dealing with? AMR?
[20:09] <datz> jrib: let me try this
[20:09] <d4n1> ok
[20:09] <d4n1> ill post it and get back
[20:09] <Andy14> quin: I pm'd you
[20:09] <MaT-dg> lsusb
[20:09] <ccm> obiwan_: a raid would help or a bunch of disks and the files distributed
[20:09] <baltadt> mytouch 3g videos....3gp file
[20:09] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Exactly the same error message.
[20:09] <baltadt> amr adaptive multirate decoder
[20:09] <d4n1> well
[20:09] <wolter> baltadt, did you search it in google?
[20:10] <datz> jrib: I tried "service gdm restart" but xorg still using 100% cpu
[20:10] <ActionParsnip__> obiwan_: try using SAS for extra speed, they are way better than home grade SATA drives
[20:10] <baltadt> yeah but no such luck
[20:10] <llutz> Ascavasaion: sorry then, no idea why
[20:10] <jrib> datz: sude service gdm stop
[20:10] <d4n1> it has to do with ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:10] <wolter> baltadt, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161779
[20:10] <jrib> datz: sudo service gdm stop
[20:10] <datz> thanks
[20:10] <d4n1> it won't go through
[20:10] <obiwan_> OK Hilikus jami & ccm it's not for me, i just thougth about it hehe. thanks i get it, raid & cache thanks :)
[20:10] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Sigh, thanks for helping me.  Seems I will never succeed when it comes to computers.
[20:10] <ccm> obiwan_: an of course: a ssd disk has no head at all :)
[20:10] <baltadt> will try that
[20:10] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: i need the output, thanks
[20:10] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  what must i do after downloading??
[20:10] <d4n1> ok
[20:11] <datz> jrib: looks like it stopped, but xorg still using cpu
[20:11] <datz> maybe I should just kill xorg?
[20:11] <jrib> datz: kill it or just reboot
[20:11] <jami> datz:reboot
[20:11] <datz> ok I'll try to kill it.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: mark it as executable with chmod +x then run it from terminal
[20:11] <fluxw0rm> When I boot Ubuntu, it doesn't show me text output on what is booting. I have removed xsplash and would prefer to startx instead of GDM.
[20:11] <datz> I'd rathe not reboot, but we'll see, thanks guys
[20:12] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  could you type full command please,
[20:12] <mikeconcepts> is there channel dedicated to 10.4?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: where have you downloaded the file and what is its name
[20:12] <eric_3> fluxw0rm: check the bios settings
[20:12] <minimec> mikeconcepts: ubuntu+1
[20:12] <llutz> Ascavasaion: maybe you'll find some help here https://billing.editdns.net/knowledgebase/5/DNS-Hosting---Support
[20:12] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  ok it is still downloading, after that, i will reply you
[20:12] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: sure
[20:12] <eric_3> if you are looking for bios text
[20:12] <datz> jrib: looks like it may have just taken a second, I didn't have to kill it, and xorg is stopped, thanks
[20:13] <fluxw0rm> Was looking for X server bootup information.
[20:13] <jda2000> hello, I think I broke the connection between nautilus and samba.  I did a "dpkg -l | grep samba" and removed all the packages.  It then said that it also removed a few more so I later installed everything it said it removed.  now I get "Couldn't display "smb://m5/media". There is no application for this file type"  Even though smbclient //m5/media works.
[20:13] <jda2000> how can I fix this?
[20:13] <mikeconcepts> minimec: thanks
[20:13] <Powderking> Another question: I installed Ubuntu server to a system with a AMD Geode processor. The german Ubuntu wiki says that a lot of problems occur because of a wrong kernel. It tells to install "linux-386" instead of "linux-generic". But I have no problems so far (installation complete, system running). I wonder if it is a good idea to change the kernel?
[20:13] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: doing fsck is a bit hard since it's not mounted
[20:13] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: ok then run: sudo eject /dev/sdb
[20:14] <minimec> mikeconcepts: np
[20:14] <bastid_raZor> Powderking: for the server possibly try #ubuntu-server
[20:14] <Ascavasaion> llutz: I give up... for tonight.  I need to get to bed, I am so tired.  thanks for trying to help.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip__> MaT-dg: then remove the device, count to 10 then plug back in
[20:14] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea
[20:14] <llutz> Ascavasaion: better luck next time
[20:14] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea: i added a username and password (smbpasswd -a username)
[20:14] <ActionParsnip__> EvilPenguin|: how are you conecting to it?
[20:15] <EvilPenguin|> smb://ipaddy
[20:15] <blakkheim> !repeat | EvilPenguin|
[20:15] <ActionParsnip__> EvilPenguin|: in nautilus try: smb://mac_host_name/share_name
[20:15] <EvilPenguin|> ActionParsnip__: pm?
[20:15] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  it placed in "/" directory named "hplip-3.9.12"
[20:16] <d4n1> E: ttf-mscorefonts-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:16] <wolter> can somebody ping me?
[20:16] <EvilPenguin|> ActionParsnip__: my ubuntu wont allow me to connect?
[20:16] <d4n1> ill give the whole in a pit
[20:16] <d4n1> bit*
[20:17] <wolter> please, just somebody say wolter
[20:17] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  it placed in "/" directory named "hplip-3.9.12"
[20:17] <MaT-dg> ActionParsnip__: ok, did sudo eject /dev/sdb and unplugged
[20:17] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: cd /hplip-3.9.12; chmod +x ./*; ./hpl        then press tab on the end to complete the name
[20:17] <Hilikus> how can i get only the directories inside a directory and have them sorted in inverse alphabetic order?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip__> EvilPenguin|: i dont give support in PM
[20:17] <edj> installed 9.10 on the 1st partition an external usb hard drive.  There was no option in the installer as to where to install grub; it just put it in the mbr.  Is there a way to remove it from the mbr and put it in the partition?
[20:17] <Hilikus> i dont see a way to sort using find
[20:18] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[20:18] <EsatYuce> cd /hplip-3.9.12; chmod +x ./*; ./hpl
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[20:18] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: you need to press tab on the end dude, to complete the filename
[20:18] <WONKtS> GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK GNAA IS BACK
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[20:18] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: easier to download to your home folder someplace
[20:19] <ActionParsnip__> Hilikus: you can use pipes
[20:19] <soreau> tsimpson: I thought #ubuntu was +R already..
[20:19] <ZimCS> Hello.  I'd like to install a minimalist gui on ubuntu server 9.10.  I don't need firefox built in or all the apps that come with gnome.  I only need the x windows to run boxee.  Can anyone please help with this?
[20:19] <tsimpson> soreau: not for a while
[20:19] <Hilikus> ActionParsnip__: do i need to store it first or can i pipe directly from find?
[20:19] <jami> ZimCS: google ubuntu xfce4
[20:20] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip__> ZimCS: sudo apt-get install boxee   will install the x server if boxee needs it
[20:20] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  cd /hplip-3.9.12; chmod +x ./*; ./hpl.   cd /hplip-3.9.12; chmod +x ./*; ./hpl
[20:20] <jami> Hilikus: directly
[20:20] <stealyourface> ZimCS: do really need ubuntu?  theres lots of linux distros that start minimal
[20:20] <eric_3> jrib: what is mode -z?
[20:20] <JackTIM> wolter?
[20:20] <Ray304> Hello, Can i register freenode with my gmail account?
[20:20] <wolter> ah thanks JackTIM
[20:20] <ActionParsnip__> Hilikus: shoud go right from find
[20:20] <tsimpson> Ray304: yes
[20:20] <jrib> eric_3: +z lets ops see what muted people are saying
[20:20] <wolter> just wanted to test my notify osd
[20:20] <wolter> fixed it
[20:20] <Ray304> I can't seem to
[20:20] <obiwan_> hey guys, i messed up my first keypair and uploaded it to ubuntu keyserver. Now i want to get rid of it and already made a new one. If i revoke former one, will i need to keep that keys or something? i haven't yet to sign anything with it, so i don't need to keep that key to decrypt anything. So is it enough to revoke and remove that key, or is there any reason for i should keep that key? (i am bout to clean install karmic again, and i want to keep just the
[20:20] <wolter> well, quite
[20:20] <ZimCS> stealyourface: its already installed
[20:20] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__, : it said me this:  bash: cd: /hplip-3.9.12: No such file or directory
[20:20] <jami> state pollution
[20:20] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: you will need to complete the filename
[20:20] <Ray304> everytime, I am told that the email is invalid
[20:20] <eric_3> k thanks
[20:20] <JackTIM> Wolter: Need anythign else?
[20:21] <eric_3> Jrib: who are ops?
[20:21] <tsimpson> Ray304: make sure not to include the '<' and '>'
[20:21] <Ray304> Oh!
[20:21] <jrib> eric_3: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[20:21] <Ray304> So i don't need those
[20:21] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  there are hundreds file, which one is ?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: lets have ytou being the brains here, if you run ls you will see the full filename, make sure it shows as green in terminal
[20:21] <JackTIM> wolter: Need anything else?
[20:21] <obiwan_> many people eric_3 , but they are catalyzers, so you won't see them unless they really need to op themselves
[20:21] <eric_3> k
[20:21] <stealyourface> ZimCS: sudo apt-get install twm
[20:21] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: then type ./whatever you see here    e.g. ./hplip-3.6.12.bin    or whatever it is
[20:22] <d4n1> hey ActionParsnip__
[20:22] <d4n1> i just purged it
[20:22] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: sup
[20:22] <Ray304> Thanks tsimpson
[20:22] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: pured what?
[20:22] <d4n1> i have no idea of what went wrong
[20:22] <ActionParsnip__> purged
[20:22] <wolter> JackTIM, not if you don't know how to make notify-osd display volume changes again
[20:22] <d4n1> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:22] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea: i added a username and password (smbpasswd -a username)
[20:22] <wolter> instead of the old gnome way
[20:23] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: you havent given the pastebin link yet so i cant help
[20:23] <stealyourface> ZimCS: then make a file called .xinitrc in your home folder that has this line in it: exec twm
[20:23] <d4n1> no, i just said that i purged it
[20:23]  * matelot about Screenlet - what does "treat as widget" mean ?
[20:23] <d4n1> ill try to update again, and if i get the same error
[20:23] <d4n1> ill come back
[20:23] <d4n1> hope u can help then
[20:23] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     copy the text and make a pastebin of it using http://pastebin.com
[20:23] <d4n1> ttyl then
[20:23] <FloodBot2> d4n1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  there are  a few folder and many files within hplip-3.9.12 directory
[20:24] <d4n1> lol, bot, im not flooding ^_^
[20:24] <Hilikus> ActionParsnip__: what app should i use? sort?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: one is the file you downloaded. if you use crappy firefox the default is desktop
[20:24] <jrib> d4n1: don't use enter as punctuation
[20:24] <stealyourface> ZimCS: you actually might even be able to get away with just "exec boxee" in your .xinitrc without using twm
[20:24] <ActionParsnip__> Hilikus: sure
[20:24] <d4n1> ok.
[20:25] <matelot> about Screenlet - what does "treat as widget" mean ?
[20:25] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  i can see full directory in /
[20:25] <ZimCS> thanks, ill check it out
[20:25] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: you need to use chmod +x  to mark the file as executable. then run it as your user, you will be prompted for your sudo password later in the install
[20:25] <__raven> ActionParsnip__, it's me again - it seems that unison does not delete deleted files on the other pc - what could be the problem/setting?
[20:26] <wolter> is the gnaa back?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip__> __raven: not something ive ever used duder, might be a setting in the app though
[20:28] <fluxw0rm> Wow im having so many issues with the Ubuntu way, but not the linux way.
[20:29] <jami> fluxw0rm: ...
[20:29] <fluxw0rm> Everytime I try to boot into a text mode login, I get "ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" :/
[20:29] <jrib> fluxw0rm: we're here to try to help if you tell us what they are
[20:29] <ActionParsnip__> fluxw0rm: ubuntu is a distro of linux so is the same thing
[20:29] <clrg> !ask | fluxw0rm
[20:29] <xxx_> flux, can u help me with my wireless card???
[20:30] <fluxw0rm> Well I meant for example, Ubuntu way as in it uses rc-sys file instead of /etc/inittab.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip__> fluxw0rm: many distros use that now
[20:30] <jrib> fluxw0rm: ubuntu uses upstart instead of sysvinit you mean
[20:30] <woodyjlw> On a fresh install of ubuntu suspend and wake work great but on after a few days it will finally freeze keyboard and touchpad on a wake and I have to force restart and then every other time I try to boot I get a lid argument error and and have to reset 2 to 3 times to get back into ubuntu. is a file getting corupted ?  is it something I can fix? I dont want to keep reinstalling everytime it starts doing this really bad
[20:30] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,: i run this command in terminal:~$ cd /hplip-3.9.12; chmod +x ./*; ./hpl
[20:31] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: i dont have that folder or file so it wont work
[20:31] <fission6> i do not have any cds to burng an iso on but i have a 500 mb thumb drive, is it possible to use this in some fashion to dual boot my machine and get ubuntu on it? i am also considering the wooby route but want to know if there is a way to offically dual boot my machine
[20:31] <clrg> fluxw0rm: The init scripts/milestones are different in most unix-like operating systems. You may read a little about it and learn the differences between Debian-style init, Red Hat-style init, and Unix milestones. There's plenty of stuff on the web.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: why you have downloaded to that folder is a complete mystery to me. why didnt you download to $HOME ?
[20:31] <jrib> !install > fission6
[20:31] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__,  it said me this error: bash: cd: /hplip-3.9.12: No such file or directory
[20:31] <fluxw0rm> Yeah, clrg. I've been more custom to rc.d scripts.
[20:31] <fluxw0rm> I'll take a look at some docs.
[20:31] <Mefached> EsatYuce, you're trying to cd to a folder in the root directory
[20:32] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: dont just run commands blindly, look at what is going on, if it isnt working then yo uwill be equipped to change it so that it DOES work
[20:32] <Mefached> EsatYuce, What exactly was your command?
[20:32] <fission6> yea jrib does that cover my need of booting from a thumb drive off 500mb then dual booting and once in place upgrading to a full version of ubuntu
[20:32] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: you need to get the system to run chmod+x against it, then executed
[20:32] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: thats all it takes
[20:32] <fission6> !install > fission6
[20:32] <jrib> fission6: it's full of alternatives for installing ubuntu.  You may be able to use one of them
[20:33] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__, : i understand nothing, thank for your help,
[20:33] <fission6> ok
[20:33] <soopos> What is wrong in the following VNC connection at http://dpaste.com/146576/ ?
[20:33] <FireCrotch> fission6: a 500 MB flash drive won't be enough to do a normal install.  If you have another computer available, you can install the system by booting via PXE and installing that way
[20:33] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: chmod +x   make sthe file executable which it currently wont be
[20:34] <jrib> FireCrotch, fission6: you can probably do a minimal install
[20:34] <gatty> soopos: something at the remote end by the look of it.
[20:34] <fission6> i just found my old 8gig ipod, should i try to use this?
[20:34] <xxx_> action do u know how could i compille my ralink rt2960 wireless card on ubuntu 9.10?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: You need to use the cd command to (C)hange (D)irectory to the place you downloaded the file to and then use the chmod file to mark it as executable
[20:34] <EsatYuce> ActionParsnip__, i will try that, ok
[20:35] <rahduke1> I just installed a fresh version of 9.10 on this HTPC i built, for watever reason embedded divx video is choppy/blurry and just screwy overall. I've installed the restricted extras and its still messed up..... Has anyone had this issue, I'm sure its a simple fix but for some reason I cant figure it out.
[20:35] <rahduke1> lil help please
[20:35] <ActionParsnip__> EsatYuce: you can use tab to autocomplete the file name, saves you typing the whole thing and possibly screwing it up
[20:36] <Foul> G'day guys.  Can anyone help an Ubuntu noob with an audio issue please?
[20:36] <FireCrotch> jrib: I've never been able to get the alternate installer to work properly from a flash drive, though the last time I tried was a couple of releases ago
[20:36] <rahduke1> Foul: whats the issue
[20:36] <jrib> FireCrotch: I admit I've only done it with debian
[20:36] <fission6> FireCrotch: do you think i can use my ipod 8gig some how?
[20:37] <jami> fission6: jailbreak it
[20:37] <rahduke1> I just installed a fresh version of 9.10 on this HTPC i built, for watever reason embedded divx video is choppy/blurry and just screwy overall. I've installed the restricted extras and its still messed up..... Has anyone had this issue, I'm sure its a simple fix but for some reason I cant figure it out. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[20:37] <Foul> Hiya rahduke1.  I'd like to get voice calls (i.e. through skype) working on my headset and other audio running through my speakers.  I can't seem to get this to happen and I have a feeling it may be due to my sound card drivers?
[20:37] <EvilPenguin|> can anybody tell me why my SMB wont accept my password / username from my osx machinea: i added a username and password (smbpasswd -a username)
[20:37] <fission6> jami: is that nessary
[20:38] <clrg> fission6: You would most likely render it unusable, since you need to format it and mark the first partition bootable. Why don't you just buy a 4GB thumb drive? They're not expensive (20 dollars at most)
[20:38] <fission6> cant i just format it
[20:38] <gatty> EvilPenguin|: are you connecting from osx using cifs:// or smb:// ?
[20:38] <fission6> cause i want to do this now
[20:38] <EvilPenguin|> gatty:  smb://
[20:38] <fission6> cani get a minimal instlall on a 500 thumb and then upgrade to full version once i get things bottable
[20:38] <EvilPenguin|> gatty: i can see my drives also.
[20:38] <quinn> can anyone tel me how to reset root settings
[20:38] <ActionParsnip__> rahduke1: did you install / configure video drivers?
[20:38] <rahduke1> Foul: im not really that familiar with headsets/skype, have u checked the sound preferences and made sure that your volume is set correctly.... hardware input output et al?
[20:38] <clrg> fission6: If it's worth the risk, try formatting your iPod.
[20:38] <woodyjlw> On a fresh install of ubuntu suspend and wake work great but on after a few days it will finally freeze keyboard and touchpad on a wake and I have to force restart and then every other time I try to boot I get a lid argument error and and have to reset 2 to 3 times to get back into ubuntu. is a file getting corupted ?  is it something I can fix? I dont want to keep reinstalling everytime it starts doing this really bad. and wh
[20:38] <woodyjlw> at would cause it to freeze after several days of working fine?
[20:38] <EvilPenguin|> gatty:  i just cant login and use them, access, read, write.
[20:39] <gatty> EvilPenguin|: try cifs:// - if that doesn't work, check the logs on the samba server
[20:39] <rahduke1> ActionParsnip__: yes got the latest nvidia driver, even have VDPAU running
[20:39] <ActionParsnip__> rahduke1: from the nvidia ppa?
[20:39] <geneticx> should I use LVM for ubuntu installations?
[20:39] <EvilPenguin|> gatty:  nothing logs in the server
[20:39] <ActionParsnip__> rahduke1: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras     ?
[20:39] <fission6> ok so there is no reasonable way to use the 500 mb to get a minimal install
[20:39] <jami> rahduke1: do you use mplayer? cause this player gives you a lot of output
[20:39] <Foul> rahduke1: Yeah I looked through the sound device preferences for ubuntu.  They all work but I can't get voice through my headset and other audio (i.e. mp3s) through my speakers.
[20:39] <rahduke1> ActionParsnip__: originally yes, but i actually needed a slightly older driver to correct for overscan, so i installed from nvidia directly and yes I\ve installed restricted extras
[20:39] <ActionParsnip__> !minimal | fission6
[20:40] <FireCrotch> fission6: you can try using the Minimal CD image
[20:40] <gatty> EvilPenguin|: so turn up the logging level in smb.conf, restart samba and try again, then look to see what it says.
[20:40] <rahduke1> Foul: have u tried alsamixer from terminal?
[20:40] <quinn> can anyone tell me how to reset root settings?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip__> rahduke1: then i got nothing, sounds perfect to me
[20:40] <EvilPenguin|> k.
[20:40] <fission6> oh and there is no way to use a network install or is that risky
[20:40] <jrib> quinn: be more specific.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip__> quinn: can you define "root settings"
[20:40] <Foul> rahduke1: nope.  I'm a complete noob.  How would I go about doing this?
[20:40] <rahduke1> ActionParsnip__: its weird man, its really pissin me off
[20:40] <rahduke1> Foul: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[20:40] <EvilPenguin|> gatty:  logging level is under what ID in smb.conf?
[20:41] <gautham> I
[20:41] <rahduke1> Foul: u will get lots more options for volume control, if something isnt turned on type M and it will enable it
[20:41] <quinn> ActionPArsnip__: As it root is the  core user, i want to reset it
[20:41] <skinnymg1> ok guys i have a quick ? about how to stop the DE in UNR
[20:41] <FireCrotch> fission6: You can do a network install. You'll need another computer running a PXE server and tftp server
[20:41] <Foul> rahduke1: ooh this looks evil. I'll have a quick look.
[20:41] <gatty> EvilPenguin|: debug level
[20:41] <fission6> so can i use the minimal.iso, put that on my usb 500mb drive using the same method for a normally usb install, than come back later and upgrade to full
[20:41] <rahduke1> ActionParsnip__: do u think i need to reboot to have the restricted extras kick in?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip__> quinn: if its the gnome settings you can boot to root recovery mode and delete (or rename) all ~/.g* folders then boot, you will get stock gnome settings
[20:42] <ActionParsnip__> rahduke1: dont think so but costs nothing to try
[20:42] <gautham> I'm looking for an all in one linux DVD, one which has set of all usual apps and also includes restricted stuff so that I can directly install it on multiple machines and not worry about upgrading individually with stuff. please suggest me something
[20:42] <blalock> Does Anyone know why my screensaver doesnt activate?
[20:42] <FireCrotch> fission6: the minimal iso will have you select what packages to install, you can just choose to install ubuntu-desktop, and it will download all the required packages
[20:42] <Mefached> gautham, if you're comfortable in Openbox, the Crunchbang CD comes with all of the codecs and the like.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip__> FireCrotch: kinda defeats the object of the minimal install
[20:43] <fission6> can i use the minimal iso image on a thumb drive though, cause again, i do not have any cds
[20:43] <ranrunner> does anyone know how to force VESA driver or get your screen to where it is 1280x1024?
[20:43] <Mefached> ActionParsnip__, not if the object of the minimal install was to fit in less space than the full CD>
[20:43] <gautham> Mefached: don't care about interface. does it come with gimp, gparted, openoffice and stuff ?
[20:43] <FireCrotch> ActionParsnip__: Not when the purpose of using it is that you don't have a disc/big enough flash drive
[20:43] <rahduke1> ActionParsnip__: the choppiness is actually just in xbmc on the web videos look fine, guess ill head over to that chan
[20:43] <ActionParsnip__> fission6: if you install xfce4   you will get a minimal xfce desktop, or you can install fluxbox to get another minimal desktop
[20:43] <skiwithpete> hi
[20:43] <tawd> i'm trying to play world of warcraft on ubuntu 9.10 and when i launch wow.exe with wine it changes my resolution, then logs me out.  anyone have experience with gaming in linux?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip__> FireCrotch: but installing ubuntu desktop will install the same amount as a desktop install from cd
[20:43] <skinnymg1> i have a quick ? about how to stop the Desktop Environment in Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[20:43] <skiwithpete> how do I tell the manufacturer of my wireless card?
[20:43] <CAPcap> question about my video.  when i was running winxp on this computer i could full screen videos, no issue. now ive changed over to ubuntu 9.10 and i cant watch full screen videos or my vids are choppy. help?
[20:44] <quinn> ActionParsnip__: How do you boot into recovery mode?
[20:44] <blakkheim> skiwithpete: lspci
[20:44] <blakkheim> CAPcap: what type of video, what video player, what cpu?
[20:44] <blakkheim> tawd: /join #winehq
[20:44] <ActionParsnip__> quinn: choose the recovery mode from grub, then select root
[20:44] <Mefached> ActionParsnip__, yes, exactly. The full install doesn't fit on the CD.
[20:44] <skiwithpete> thanks blakk
[20:44] <skiwithpete> thanks blakkheim
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[20:44] <fission6> ok ai am going to try this crazy method, i just want to verify that using the minimal cd iso is something i can still put on a usb
[20:44] <gautham> And what other options do I have ? How about ultimate edition or mint ?
[20:45] <blakkheim> fission6: i've used the mini.iso on a usb drive
[20:45] <gautham> I am looking for max softies on a disc
[20:45] <quinn> ActionParsnip__: How do you get into grub?
[20:45] <blakkheim> gautham: create your own livecd with only what you want
[20:45] <CAPcap> doesnt seem to matter if its in the native media player or any kind of online player. DVDs or saved files....
[20:45] <ActionParsnip__> Mefached: true but it doesnt make a nice small install, if you install xfce4 then you wont get all the usual bloat which makes up a standard ubuntu install
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[20:45] <FloodBot2> rBX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip__> quinn: esc when grub shows
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[20:45] <Mefached> ActionParsnip__, not everyone cares about having a nice small install.
[20:45] <blakkheim> holy shit lol
[20:45] <ActionParsnip__> Mefached: surely a 4gb USB sick would though..
[20:45] <matelot> wtf
[20:46] <maco> matelot: jerks
[20:46] <fission6> blakkheim: how did you write the iso to the usb to make it bootable
[20:46] <maco> blakkheim: language
[20:46] <ActionParsnip__> Mefached: which is why the minimal install exists
[20:46] <blakkheim> fission6: i used unetbootin
[20:46] <macman_> so sad
[20:46] <Out`Of`Control> what mode is z?
[20:46] <blakkheim> maco: sorry bro
[20:46] <Out_Cold> an op should set +R in here
[20:46] <gautham> blakkheim: can't do that since I don't have much time. Just enough time to download ISO and then install it while I travel onto my laptop
[20:46] <fission6> can i use that on windows
[20:46] <gautham> blakkheim: and I don't have ubuntu installed right now either
[20:46] <ranrunner> does anyone know how to force VESA driver or get your display to 1280x1024?
[20:46] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:46] <FireCrotch> fission6: Yes, you can use unetbootin in windows
[20:47] <fission6> okay here goes nothing, ill report back whewn this blows up in my face or when i have a slick new ubuntu 9.10
[20:47] <ActionParsnip__> ranrunner: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759   change the driver to vesa,
[20:47] <Mefached> I don't think I want to "upgrade" to 9.10. Are there still any huge issues?
[20:47] <ranrunner> actionparsnip: ok
[20:47] <Out_Cold> if i wanted to run apport on my video/display what would be the app name?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip__> ranrunner: you also dont need the keyboard / mouse sections
[20:48] <ActionParsnip__> ranrunner: take the sections out and remove the refs in the server section
[20:48] <Mefached> ranrunner, VESA doesn't support 1280x1024
[20:48] <Out_Cold> Mefached, depends on the hardware
[20:48] <d4n1> so ActionParsnip__, do u think u could go through it???? its http://pastebin.com/m50745698, that is the error i am getting
[20:48] <fission6> FireCrotch: its asking me for which distrobution, and i dont have an option to choose minimal, should i just select 9.10 and then just select the minimal.iso?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip__> Mefached: it will if you tell it
[20:48] <ranrunner> actionparsnip: i know, i am just trying to tune my screen up
[20:48] <ranrunner> mefached: yes it does
[20:48] <blakkheim> fission6: download the mini iso and choose it
[20:48] <FireCrotch> fission6: Download the minimal iso from the ubuntu website
[20:48] <furicle> @skinnymg1 sudo stop gdm
[20:49] <FireCrotch> fission6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:49] <infid> i ran 'md5 my-50gb-file' 2 minutes ago and it's still processing. is it supposed to take that long?
[20:49] <infid> this is a realllly fast computer
[20:49] <fission6> no, i did that but unetbootin is asking for what distro and i can not selecty minimal
[20:49] <fission6> i have the iso
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> fission6:  some of those iso's may not work properly with unetbootin.  Ive heard the server iso also has issues.. Not sure on the minimal cd.
[20:49] <furicle> @skinnymg1 sudo stop gdm
[20:49] <llutz> infid: go for a coffee
[20:49] <blakkheim> fission6:  choose the option UNDER the select distribution
[20:49] <infid> llutz how long should it take?
[20:50] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: i've used mini with it, works fine
[20:50] <FireCrotch> fission6: you don't have to choose a distribution at the top
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> fission6:  you can just point it at the iso and let it go.  if you select teh disrto it tries to download that disrto.iso
[20:50] <llutz> infid: "long", don't know how long
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  ok. :) ive never tried it.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: Checksum mismatch for impact32.exe, aborting!    is the issue, looks like its being synced or is missing
[20:50] <soopos> What does happen if you type your subkey's password wrong in Mutt? - It gives me no notice.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip__> infid: yes, 50Gb will take a while
[20:50] <d4n1> yeah
[20:50] <d4n1> but what can i do?
[20:51] <fission6> ok here goes nothing
[20:51] <ActionParsnip__> d4n1: you can download it yourself and place it where it is expected i guess
[20:51] <infid> k
[20:51] <fission6> extracting and copying  giles
[20:51] <fission6> files*
[20:51] <d4n1> ActionParsnip__, should i change software sources, and if i do, wouldn't that have a negative effect on my system?
[20:52] <fission6> ok UNetbootin is asking me to reboot now, should i got for it or do i want to do anything else first
[20:52] <Asad-away> Is there a way to remotely access a computer on the network that doesn't have a display (and hence has no user logged in). Kind of like RDP in windows?
[20:52] <gautham> What options do I have now ? I want a distro with GIMP, Build Essentials, Open Office and Multimedia Playback Capability out of box
[20:52] <blakkheim> Asad-away: ssh
[20:53] <CAPcap> question about my video.  when i was running winxp on this computer i could full screen videos, no issue. now ive changed over to ubuntu 9.10 and i cant watch full screen videos or my vids are choppy. help? doesnt seem to matter if its in the native media player or any kind of online player. DVDs or saved files. Im running a Dell Inspiron 600m Laptop. Processor: Intel Pentium M 1.6Ghz Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB. 1GB RAM
[20:53] <fission6> is 6gb partition going to be a wise place to install my linux partition
[20:53] <Asad-away> blakkheim: Well, is there a way to have a GUI sharing like windows does? Each user logs into his / her own account.
[20:53] <fission6> x forwarding?
[20:53] <blakkheim> Asad-away: you could try vnc. i'm not sure, i don't use GUI much. ssh has an X forwarding option.
[20:54] <Asad-away> http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28158/Remote_Login_via_XDMCP_on_Ubuntu that's how I used to do it. But ubuntu changed a lot.
[20:54] <infid> llutz and ActionParsnip__ you can have a progress bar if you do 'pv file | md5sum'
[20:54] <fission6> FireCrotch: ii am going to place the full ubuntu 9.10 on a 6gb partition is this enough
[20:54] <FireCrotch> fission6: you should be all set to go, if unetbootin is done.  Just make sure that if the computer is a laptop, you're plugged into the network via a cable
[20:54] <infid> llutz it's eta is 35 minutes
[20:54] <jami> fission6: yes
[20:55] <llutz> infid: i know, but i don't need it
[20:55] <FireCrotch> fission6: 6GB is enough for Ubuntu, yes
[20:55] <fission6> nice here i GO, when i return ill be happy or sad either way, i have a boner, bbl thanks for everyones help
[20:55] <CAPcap> is there a way to check what video card i have? the one u just said doesnt look right to me
[20:55] <minimec> CAPcap: can you give me the output of 'lspci | grep VGA'
[20:55] <infid> CAPcap: sudo lshw -C video i think
[20:55] <FireCrotch> !tmi | fission6
[20:55] <tawd> how can i figure out my video drivers?
[20:55] <d4n1> @everybody       does changing your software sources have a bad effect on your system
[20:55] <Renfield> My wife's computer has 2gig of ram, and 1Gig of swap space, and it frequently uses all of that up. Is this typical for a desktop?
[20:55] <blakkheim> Renfield: why on EARTH did you make 16gb of swap?
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> d4n1:  changeing from what to what? picking differnt official repos shouldent have any affect.
[20:56] <Renfield> blakkheim: That says 1Gig.
[20:56] <d4n1> ok
[20:56] <blakkheim> Renfield: oh haha i misread it my bad
[20:56] <jami> d4n1: its different
[20:56] <blakkheim> Renfield: sorry bout that
[20:56] <d4n1> like form us server ot official server?
 i have the same setup and no, i rarely use over 25% of my ram
[20:56] <Renfield> Hmmmm.
[20:57] <CAPcap> minimec "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[20:57] <CAPcap> :
[20:57] <Renfield> Right now, Xorg says 1.2g resident.
[20:57] <Mefached> Renfield, well, you should have more swap than physical RAM as a general rule.
[20:57] <Renfield> Yea, I thought that rule was back when ram was in the hundreds of megs.
[20:57] <shuaib> Hi, how to put a password on ad-hoc network connection (made using iwconfig) from commandline?
[20:58] <FireCrotch> Mefached, Renfield: Having more swap than RAM is no longer necessary, in my opinion, with machines with 2GB or more of RAM
[20:58] <geirha> Renfield: If you have swap size >= ram size, you can hibernate
[20:58] <FireCrotch> *unless you want to use hibernate mode
[20:59] <Renfield> Oh, well that's not a feature that I want.
[20:59] <jami> FireCrotch: Hibernate crash if your swap is smaller than the mem
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> d4n1:  its proberlybest to use a server local to yourself.
[20:59] <tawd> if i make my swap = to my ram size i can hibernate?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> tawd:  thats the theory these days.. :)
[21:00] <jami> tawd: yes
[21:00] <d4n1> well Dr_Willis, which could i use, im far from anything really
[21:00] <tawd> sweet!  i might get on gparted sometime and fix that
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> d4n1:  thers tools  out that can ping/show/test and show the fastest servers..  somewhere.. i forget the name
[21:00] <Renfield> It seems crazy, the amount of memory these programs are using 751M for Pidgin, 698M for Firefox, 416M for Evolution-alarm, 381M for Evolution-data...
[21:00] <minimec> CAPcap: ok. Thx. You could try to activate kms features. Create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf with this line in it 'options radeon modeset=1' (without '') then 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all', then reboot.
[21:01] <FireCrotch> Renfield: how the hell is pidgin using that much memory?
[21:01] <Renfield> Pidgin is just an IM client, why does it use 751M of virtual memory?
[21:01] <Renfield> FireCrotch: That's what I'd like to know.
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> It could be showing the shared libs for each progam
[21:01] <d4n1> Dr_Willis:  well, i think i could google that, but what exactly am i looking for?
[21:01] <CAPcap> ummm what?
[21:01] <Renfield> I'm looking at this information from 'top'.
[21:01] <minimec> CAPcap: sudo update-initramfs -u -k all in a console, not in the radeon.conf file ;)
[21:01] <FireCrotch> Renfield: Mine is using 100MB
[21:01] <Renfield> Sorted by resident memory.
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> d4n1:  'select fastest repo ubuntu'  perhaps
[21:01] <Renfield> FireCrotch: What are you using to view that information? Top also?
[21:02] <FireCrotch> Renfield: yes
[21:02] <fission6> well that was anticlimactic , my bios doesnt appear to let me boot form usb, nothing happened when i restared and i co uldnt select usb in bio boot
[21:02] <d4n1> Dr_Willis:  Thanks, ill try that, but do u think it would really matter, i get like 15kbps anyways
[21:02] <minimec> CAPcap: Please... No private messages...
[21:02] <CAPcap> ok...
[21:02] <cowbud> Renfield: perhaps a plugin you hae enabled is affecting it?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> d4n1:  proberly not then
[21:03] <tawd> if i make swap >= ram, would that also possibly fix suspend as well?
[21:03] <d4n1> Dr_Willis:  lol, not everybody has a good internet connection
[21:03] <Renfield> cowbud: I'll have to take a look.
[21:03] <FireCrotch> tawd: nope. suspend doesn't use swap at all
[21:03] <d4n1> Dr_Willis:   Although i usually get B/s when updating
[21:03] <d4n1> ^_^
[21:03] <bastid_raZor> FireCrotch: you're actually backwards.. suspend does use RAM and hibernate writes to disk
[21:04] <minimec> CAPcap: You need to create a file in the folder /etc/modprobe.d (I named mine radeon.conf). In this file there is one single line... options radeon modeset=1
[21:04] <llutz> FireCrotch: "suspend2disk" uses swap
[21:04] <FireCrotch> llutz: that's hibernate :)
[21:04] <llutz> FireCrotch: "suspend2disk", hibernate is windows :)
[21:04] <minimec> CAPcap: ... then save that file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and do 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all' in a console...
[21:05] <FireCrotch> llutz: funny, my option is called "hibernate" as well
[21:05] <geirha> tawd: No, they're not related. Suspend shuts down your computer, except keeps the RAM going. Hibernate copies RAM to Swap and turns your computer completely off.
[21:05] <guntbert> llutz: not necessarily - looking at my menu
[21:05] <CAPcap> where is /etc?
[21:05] <minimec> CAPcap: ... then reboot.
[21:05] <llutz> FireCrotch: multiple expressions for same things
[21:05] <Boobek> llutz, I can't find suspend2disk command! its an extra package?
[21:05] <saptech> greetings earthlings
[21:05] <tawd> ty geirha
[21:06] <CAPcap> nvm i found it, now what is this doing exactly minimec?
[21:06] <Parabola> test
[21:06] <guntbert> Parabola: not here please
[21:06] <CAPcap> and if it messes something up, can i undo it?
[21:06] <DILS-VBOX> lol
[21:06] <tawd> how can i chat from the terminal?
[21:07] <blakkheim> tawd: install irssi or weechat
[21:07] <llutz> tawd: use irssi
[21:07] <bastid_raZor> tawd: use irssi
[21:07] <tawd> sudo apt-get install irssi ?
[21:07] <bastid_raZor> tawd: yes
[21:07] <Midnight_Owl> use bitchx
[21:07] <syrius> sudo apt-get install windows
[21:07] <Midnight_Owl> xD
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> irssi, or weechat, or bitchx. I perfer 'weechat'  tawd
[21:07] <Midnight_Owl> sorry i just had to be different ><
[21:07] <syrius> there is a windows software repository now
[21:07] <syrius> getit is what it is called
[21:07] <DILS-VBOX> lol
[21:08] <guntbert> !ot | syrius
[21:08] <FireCrotch> tawd: be warned that irssi can be a little... weird... if you're used to graphical clients. hard to get used to
[21:08] <Flannel> Midnight_Owl: bitchx isn't supported anymore, please don't recommend it, thanks.
[21:08] <saptech> i never heard of weechat before, i'll have to check it out
[21:08] <minimec> CAPcap: This will activate 'kms' KernelModeSettings for the ATI driver. Tha should give you a little bit of extra speed. You can also read this, as I wrote a comment for a bug. It might interest you... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/413259/comments/30
[21:08] <bastid_raZor> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi  http://irssi.org/  tawd are some good sites to check out
[21:08] <Midnight_Owl> its not ?
[21:08] <jami> irssi is cool
[21:08] <Midnight_Owl> o.o
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure how well BitchX was ever supported...
[21:09] <saptech> is weechat similar to irssi?
[21:09] <Flannel> Midnight_Owl: No, it hasn't been for a few years now.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> WeeChat has some very nice features in the 0.3.x versions
[21:09] <Boobek> asd
[21:09] <obiwan_> hi back
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> saptech:  all text/cli based irc clients are similer. :)
[21:09] <Midnight_Owl> I've never been to cool with chatting from terminal anyway.
[21:10] <Midnight_Owl> I just stick with xchat or kvirc
[21:10] <blakkheim> Midnight_Owl: why's that?
[21:10] <saptech> ok
[21:10] <saptech> yes kinda weird then, compared to gui
[21:10] <Midnight_Owl> I've just yesterday switched from kubuntu to ubuntu
[21:10] <Midnight_Owl> uninstalled all kde packages
[21:10] <Midnight_Owl> man i hated it
[21:10] <llutz> why using a gui for text-based things like irc?
[21:11] <CAPcap> minimec, if this messes something up can I undo it somehow?
[21:11] <blakkheim> llutz: agreed, but then people use a GUI text editor.. lol :/
[21:11] <Boobek> moment
[21:11] <saptech> i like nano editor
[21:12] <fission6> how bad would it be to take the wooby route and install to my 6gb partition?
[21:12] <llutz> blakkheim: guis are fine, but not for everything (imho)
[21:12] <Midnight_Owl> for programing i use scite
[21:12] <minimec> CAPcap: Yes. You can reboot in recovery mode and then 'sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf and put a '#' in front of the line and save. Then reboot.
[21:12] <blakkheim> llutz: i pretty much live in the cli
[21:12] <calliscope> hello
[21:12] <CAPcap> ok. how do i create this .conf file?
[21:12] <minimec> CAPcap: But it should work. You will see that the console font is getting much smaller, that's all.
[21:13] <macman_> anyhone heard of gmane ?
[21:13] <calliscope> I can't seem to use transcode to rip audio from dvd to .ogg - It works to .mp3 though, but I was wondering if it was a bug ?
[21:13] <llutz> macman_: hear what?
[21:13] <minimec> CAPcap: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf
[21:13] <llutz> heard
[21:14] <fission6> am i loosing much by just going forward and installing Wooby to a 6gb partition rathen than having a true dual boot
[21:14] <obiwan_> guys, if i want to revoke a whole keyring, should i revoke subkey and then master key? or simply master? i can do both things, and i'm not sure what to do
[21:14]  * Dr_Willis wonders what Woobly is.
[21:15] <fission6> Dr_Willis: is that a hint that ill regret it
[21:15] <tawd> where can i go to download an ATI video driver for 9.10 ?
[21:15] <soreau> tawd: Which card do you have?
[21:15] <FireCrotch> fission6: I believe you can convert a wubi installation to a regular installation, if you choose to go that route
 how to i tell?
[21:16] <CAPcap> i put "options radeon modeset=1" in the file (without quotes)?
[21:16] <soreau> tawd: lspci|grep VGA
[21:16] <calliscope> I use this line $ transcode -i /dev/dvd -x dvd,dvd -T 3,1,1 -a 1 -y null,ogg -m track.ogg
 no output
[21:16] <minimec> CAPcap: without ''
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> fission6:  ive never heard of Woobly.. I have heard of Wubi. I reccomend a normal install over 'wubi'
[21:16] <soreau> tawd: Does lspci work by itself?
[21:16] <calliscope> But nothing ever happens, it doesn't go through the decryption...
 yes
[21:17] <llutz> Dr_Willis: wubi + wobbly windows maybe *brrrrr*
[21:17] <soreau> tawd: Can you pastebin the output of it to pastebin.com?
[21:17] <CAPcap> then put sudo update-initramfs -u -k all in the terminal then reboot my computer?
[21:17] <arand> fission6: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#requirements
[21:18] <tawd> soreau http://pastebin.com/m256fbde1
[21:18] <minimec> CAPcap: exactly
[21:18] <CAPcap> thanks minimec
[21:18] <minimec> CAPcap: Let's hope for the best ...
[21:18] <CAPcap> yeah lets
[21:18] <soreau> tawd: Well you must have typoed the command. It's 'lspci|grep VGA' but anyway, you have a 200M
[21:19] <soreau> tawd: This means your drivers should already be installed and working. What does 'glxinfo|grep renderer' say?
[21:19] <tawd> soreau Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:19] <fission6> FireCrotch: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html is that what you mean by moving to a regular install?
[21:20] <FireCrotch> fission6: precisely
[21:20] <tawd> soreau, i can get ccsm to work perfectly, i just can't game in ubuntu yet
[21:20] <soreau> tawd: Why did you install fglrx? The proprietary driver no longer supports your card. Completely remove fglrx from the system and reboot
[21:20] <fission6> cool ok i am going to try and install the normal way then use that method
[21:21] <tawd> soreau what is fglrx?
[21:21] <soreau> tawd: fglrx is the ati proprietary driver. It is only for r6-7xx cards like HD3xxx and later series
[21:22] <soreau> tawd: Can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep fglrx'?
[21:22] <ssn> hi
[21:22] <tawd> soreau http://pastebin.com/m67f04c25
[21:23] <dereks> is there a channel dedicated to the indicator applet?
[21:23] <neezer> I have a logitech 9000 quickcam pro that works with skype just by plug and play, but I can't get my built in microphone to work on my laptop. any input?
[21:23] <ssn> does anyone know how to use usermod to add the currently logged in user to the group video, without really knowing the name of the user? i try to write a script for this
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> ssn dosent the $user vaiable  show the user.. or was it $USER
[21:23] <teadict> I've set up my new wlan (using WPA2), my wlan interface is working, since the network manager applet lists available wifi networks.. the issue is that it doesn't connect.. I've doubled checked passwords and passphrases and it all seems correct..
[21:24] <Dr_Willis>  echo $USER
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> willis
[21:24] <soreau> tawd: Right, so you need to completely remove all of those packages listed with the 'ii' next to them then reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri and reboot the machine
[21:25] <tawd> soreau, ok, how would i do that, synaptic?
[21:26] <SealedWithAKiss> How do I change the theme in Grub2?
[21:26] <soreau> tawd: You can use synaptic or 'sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-modaliases fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-amdcccle && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri'
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  you can change/make a background for grub2. but at this time grub2 in ubuntu does not support the g Theaming features.
[21:27] <SealedWithAKiss> Dr_Willis, how do I configure a background?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | SealedWithAKiss
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  make a proper image, or install some of the premade ones. and alter the grub2 configs. rerun updategrub.
[21:28] <tawd> soreau ok, the command finished, i'm going to reboot
[21:29] <soreau> Hmm.. maybe should have told him to remove fglrx from xorg.conf
[21:31] <SealedWithAKiss> The hardware drivers window states that my ATI drivers are activates, but not in use. How do I make sure that the OS uses the ATI drivers for my graphics card? At the moment I cannot use enhanced desktop effects etc..
[21:31] <tawd> soreau i'm back
[21:31] <SealedWithAKiss> activated*
[21:32] <CAPcap> minimec. can i backdoor the change? Im booted from a LiveCD right now because nothing shows up on screen even in recovery mode
[21:32] <CAPcap> i need to undo it
[21:32] <daftykins> SealedWithAKiss: you'll want them to be force-enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  what is your exact video card? ATI has slowly been removing support for many cards from the fglrx drivers
[21:33] <soreau> tawd: I failed to tell you to do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:33] <kermit> what's the fastest way to email?
[21:33] <SealedWithAKiss> Dr_Willis, ATI Radeon 4670 HD.
[21:33] <minimec> CAPcap: That is strange... Well as I said ... open the fole /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf and put an '#' in front of the line and save. then reboot.
[21:33] <soreau> tawd: After you run that, just log out to restart X
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  You may want to check the !ati factoid/wiki pages to see how well that card is supported. I dont use ati any more
[21:33] <CAPcap> nothing in the terminal?
[21:34] <tawd> soreau ok, be right back
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[21:34] <CAPcap> wait, how am i supposed to access that, everything refs the live CD dont they?
[21:34] <minimec> CAPcap: Nope That should do. Otherwise, you have to do the initramfs thing when you boot the system in recovery mode.
[21:35] <tawd> soreau back
[21:35] <minimec> CAPcap: But I think that is not necessaey.
[21:35] <soreau> Dr_Willis: Actually, fglrx dropped support for all r3-5xx cards at once. Its wasnt a slow process and they arent dropping any more for now
[21:35] <soreau> tawd: Ok now what does glxinfo|grep renderer say?
[21:35] <CAPcap> ok my issue still is i dont know how to locate the file now that im on the lve CD
[21:36] <tawd> soreau OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5975) 20090101  NO-TCL
[21:36] <soreau> tawd: Yay, you have 3D working now
[21:36] <tawd> soreau ok, so now i can game in ubuntu?
[21:36] <soreau> tawd: Sure
[21:36] <tawd> soreau :)  going to try wine for a sec
[21:36] <CAPcap> nvm i found it, i need to put  # in front of that line you say?
[21:37] <SealedWithAKiss> Dr_Willis, that's far too complex for a novice like myself.
[21:37] <CAPcap> minimec, is there a space between the # and the line or does it touch the first word?
[21:37] <SealedWithAKiss> Dr_Willis, everything was okay before I upgraded to Karmic.
[21:37] <minimec> CAPcap: You can always boot in recovery mode. press 'left shift' before Grub loads, then choose recovery kernel and boot in to a root command line, then 'nano /etc/modrpobe.d/radeon.conf', then '#' ...
[21:38] <minimec> CAPcap: kame a space.
[21:38] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Just check sys>admin>hardware drivers to see the status of your graphics drivers
[21:38] <SealedWithAKiss> Dr_Willis, now the ATI drivers aren't loading.
[21:38] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, activated but not in use.
[21:38] <CAPcap> kame?
[21:38] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: What is the output of grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:   all i can say is that its possible that ATI dropped support for your card in the new drivers. Thats the extent of my ATI knowledge. Oterhs in here may know specifics
[21:38] <minimec> CAPcap: it doesn't matter, but you can put a space there after the #.
[21:39] <burg> network manager does not manage my wired and wireless networks anymore. how can i make it manage them?
[21:39] <soreau> Dr_Willis: No, fglrx supports r6-7xx seres. He has an rv7xx
[21:39] <CAPcap> nvm i cant save it from here
[21:39] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, Driver	"fglrx". That driver isn't compatible with my card.
[21:39] <CAPcap> what option do i use to boot?
[21:39] <dereks> hey guys. i want to be able to see if i have a message waiting in my indicator message applet, but i don't see an indication OTHER than if i click on the envelope. is there a way?
[21:40] <tawd> soreau :(  i launched wow.exe and it changed my resolution and then restarted X.  no change from before
[21:40] <morphix> burg, did you ever manually edit or remove anything in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:40] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: What is the output of glxinfo|grep VGA
[21:40] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: What is the output of lspci|grep VGA
[21:40] <burg> morphix, no. that happened after a restart
[21:40] <soreau> getting my commands mixed up
[21:41] <soreau> tawd: Well that card isnt very high end so I wouldnt expect much out of it
[21:41] <soreau> tawd: Try something like compiz
[21:41] <soreau> ! pm | SealedWithAKiss
[21:41] <morphix> burg, please type: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and copy the entire contents on pastebin - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[21:41] <morphix> in terminal window^
[21:42] <tawd> soreau compiz works better than i see on some youtube videos, and wow works great on windows, just trying to get it to work on linux
[21:42] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, sorry. I didn't want to flood the channel.
[21:42] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: fglrx does support your card
[21:42] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: If you dont want to flood the channel use a pastein service
[21:43] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, if my card is support why do I only have basic effects? I can't even scroll my browser down with a shuddering effect.
[21:43] <Powderking> On startup I get a message that my /boot filesystem (ext2) contains unexpected inconsistency (http://paste.ubuntu.com/358211/). I mounted the partition with ro option (mount -o ro /dev/sda1) and tried fsck -f /dev/sda1. I get the message that 2.4% is non-contiguous (http://paste.ubuntu.com/358216/). What can I do to solve this problem? Or where can I find more information? And would ext3/ext4 be better for a server?
[21:43] <phong_> hi
[21:43] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: fglrx is not installed properly
[21:44] <iceroot> Powderking: ext3 is always better then ext2 if you are not using a SSD
[21:44] <phong_> question: i have 2 gtx 285:  is there a way to make it SLI ?
[21:44] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: If you tried to install the .run file from amd that probably messed it up
[21:44] <Powderking> iceroot: I'm using a CF card.
[21:44] <iceroot> Powderking: then ext2 is better
[21:44] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, okay that makes sense. I haven't used fglrc before, I downloaded some drivers from ATI and installed them using a .run file.
[21:44] <iceroot> Powderking: better for the hardware
[21:45] <Powderking> iceroot: Ok then the problem is not because of the filesystem. How can I repair that? Or is it not possible?
[21:45] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, what I don't understand is why the drivers I have always used would work with previous distributions and not newer ones?
[21:45] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Yea, that screwed things up. There should be an uninstall script in /usr/share/ati to undo whatever it did, then you can use the correct way to install them which is sys>admin>hardware drivers
[21:46] <phong_> question: i have 2 gtx 285:  is there a way to make it SLI ?
[21:46] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, okay then I'll give that a shot.
 Powderking: ext3 is always better then ext2 if you are not using a SSD <<< what would be the reason for ext3 not being 'better' for a SSD?
[21:46] <iceroot> Powderking: the problem may be the filesystem, because ext2 dont use a journal
[21:46] <daftykins> SealedWithAKiss: the ATI drivers work by generating Ubuntu version-specific .deb packages, the .run file just shouts complaints if you try and make packages for Karmic (9.10) for unsupported hardware
[21:46] <iceroot> morphix: journal
[21:46] <burg> morphix, http://codepad.org/MCm9Vxgi - i have the same contents in that file on another machine, and that works just fine
[21:47] <iceroot> morphix: which is writting much more often to the drive and a SSD cant handle unlimit write-processes
[21:47] <soopos> What is Ubuntu's default sendmail -program?
[21:47] <phong_> iceroot: i have no  problem installing latest nvidia driver
[21:47] <RiotingPacifist> i'm having trouble accessing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=kdm, just me or anybody else?
[21:47] <Powderking> iceroot: Is backing up the files, repartitioning and restoring the data a possible solution?
[21:47] <knopf> hi. is there a command option for 'ls' to have directories float on top of the list like many file managers do?
[21:47] <phong_> but i want to nkow how to make it SLi
[21:47] <iceroot> soopos: mta? (postfix) or client? (evolution)
[21:47] <phong_> i have 2 cards
[21:48] <morphix> iceroot, is there any disadvantages for using ext2 on SSD?
[21:48] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, there's a file named fglrx-uninstall.sh
[21:48] <iceroot> morphix: yes, the missing journal
[21:48] <morphix> compared to normal HDD on ext3
[21:48] <soopos> iceroot: the one which sends emails, server one likely
[21:48] <burg> morphix, that happened to me before on another pc, only with wired network. i had to edit a file, but can`t remember which one
[21:48] <iceroot> soopos: postfix
[21:48] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, should I run that file to perform the uninstallation?
[21:48] <culb> is there a command i can run from cli to display the monitor hooked up to my video card
[21:48] <morphix> burg, remove the "iface eth0/wlan0 inet manual" lines
[21:48] <iceroot> Powderking: i guess there is a way with fsck but dont know how to do, sorry
[21:49] <soopos> iceroot: Do you need it if you just send an email from your computer? Cannot you use gmail's server for that?
[21:49] <fluxw0rm> When I change my kernel framebuffer in /etc/defaults/grub "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=791" and update-grub, I just get a black screen. Any ideas?
[21:49] <Powderking> iceroot: Thx anyway for your help :-)
[21:49] <morphix> iceroot, but doesnt the new SSD have a 3-4 year life span even when using 24/7 ?
[21:49] <iceroot> soopos: you want a client then, like thunderbird or evolution
[21:49] <morphix> newer*
[21:49] <phong_> is this an sli command ?: sudo nvidia-xconfig --sli=on
[21:49] <soopos> iceroot: I use mutt.
[21:49] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: The uninstall script, yes
[21:49] <iceroot> morphix: my ssd was dying after 5 months (using it as swap-drive)
[21:49] <CAPcap> minimec, cannot edit file from live cd. opened command on boot, says error unknown command nano
[21:50] <noxcape> i installed 9.04 on my ps3, no problems.  installed all updates, no problems.  Upgraded to 9.10, no problems until reboot.  after reboot, my mouse doesnt work anymore.  keyboard still works fine, but not mouse.  any suggestions?
[21:50] <iceroot> soopos: yes and the default in ubuntu is evolution
[21:50] <ballsac> hello guys
[21:50] <ballsac> I have started a support channel for people with depression, where other depressed people can talk to each other. It is #depressed on freenode. So if any of you are feeling depressed, drop in.
[21:50] <iceroot> soopos: so you want a client, not a server
[21:50] <burg> morphix, done. do i need a restart?
[21:50] <morphix> iceroot, well i would only be using as the main OS, the swap and /home would be mounted on a normal HDD
[21:50] <ballsac> sorry for the ad, but this isn't related to linux so i thought it would be OK
[21:50] <phong_> question: if i press ctr+alt+f1.  let say i do something...how do i start the gui screen again?
[21:50] <morphix> burg, try a logout and log back in and test, if not, then restart
[21:50] <iceroot> morphix: my eeepc dont have a normal hdd
[21:51] <iceroot> phong_: ctrl + alt +f7
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> phong_, ususally ctrl+alt+f7
[21:51] <morphix> iceroot, ah, not enough ram?
[21:51] <phong_> i said, if i'm in a text mode ....i want to go to windows mode
[21:51] <phong_> how would it be?
[21:51] <iceroot> morphix: there is always not enough ram :)
[21:51] <noxcape> how do i fix my mouse not working?
[21:51] <phong_> /usr/init.d/gdm start ??
[21:51] <phong_> is that right?
[21:51] <noxcape> i just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and the mouse doenst work now
[21:51] <soopos> iceroot: Evolution is a graphical application?
[21:52] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: After that, you want to remove the driver then reinstall it using jockey-gtk (sys>admin>hardware drivers)
[21:52] <soopos> iceroot: client?
[21:52] <iceroot> phong_: its called /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:52] <CAPcap> hey guys, help me out, minimec screwed up my computer
[21:52] <mac9416> APT question: Will I ever come across a package that exists only as a provide? Am I wrong in thinking a package must exists as a stand-alone in order to be provided by another package?
[21:52] <iceroot> soopos: yes, its a graphical client
[21:52] <minimec> CAPcap: nano should be installed by default. Do you have an internet connection?
[21:52] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, I have ran the script. It's uninstalled. Now I want to remove the driver? Which driver?
[21:52] <CAPcap> yes i do
[21:52] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: After that, you want to remove the driver then reinstall it using jockey-gtk (sys>admin>hardware drivers)
[21:52] <phong_> ctrl+alt+f7 do nothing man
[21:52] <iceroot> phong_: but that is starting the gui, you asked how to switch back which is ctrl + alt + f7
[21:52] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, sorry about my lack of understanding.
[21:52] <phong_> ctrl+alt+f1 only willd o that
[21:52] <morphix> iceroot, ah well that sucks, my laptop has 2gb of ram, no need for swap, i've never had a problems without it so far
[21:52] <iamringo87> hey, is anyone here familiar with mpgtx?
[21:53] <minimec> CAPcap: YOu can always edit the file with the live cd when you gksudo gedit with the live CD.
[21:53] <iceroot> !anyone | iamringo87
[21:53] <CAPcap> ok minimec
[21:53] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, do you mean that I have to uninstall another driver on top of the one I just uninstalled?
[21:53] <culb> is there a command i can run from cli to display the monitor hooked up to my video card
[21:53] <minimec> CAPcap: SUdo apt-get install nano
[21:53] <phong_> oh yeah
[21:53] <phong_> it bring back
[21:53] <iamringo87> I'm finding that sometimes after I split an mpeg with it, it indexes the file improperly...like it'll be 18 mion long but a player will say it's 1.5hrs, so I can't upload it to various video sites...is there a way to re-index videos?
[21:53] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, or just run the command you gave now?
[21:53] <minimec> CAPcap: arew you still on the command line?
[21:54] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: In other word, open jockey-gtk then remove the driver it says is not in use there. After that, reinstall it using the same thing
[21:54] <phong_> how to stop it
[21:54] <burg> morphix, thank you
[21:54] <CAPcap> no i just restarted, im trying to boot with the live cd again
[21:54] <Out_Cold> is 10.04 the first UNR release?
[21:54] <CAPcap> should i not have?
[21:54] <morphix> burg, fixed it i presume :)
[21:54] <iceroot> iamringo87: try to open it with vlc which is asking to repair the file
[21:54] <iceroot> Out_Cold: no
[21:54] <burg> morphix, yes
[21:54] <iamringo87> it opens fine in vlc
[21:54] <iceroot> !unr | Out_Cold
[21:54] <phong_> how to stop the gdm mode
[21:54] <phong_> and going text mode
[21:54] <iamringo87> just has the wrong length diplayed
[21:54] <phong_> please help
[21:54] <Out_Cold> i was reading there iceroot
[21:54] <morphix> burg: thats great and np, glad to help. :)
[21:55] <minimec> CAPcap: Both options will work.. Remember to gksudo gedit with the live CD, then open the ile to edit.
[21:55] <iceroot> phong_: ctrl + alt + f1 and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  if you want to shutdown the x-server
[21:55] <phong_> oh okay
[21:55] <phong_> thanks
[21:55] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, there isn't an option to remove the driver.
[21:55] <phong_> i miss the sudo
[21:55] <phong_> haha
[21:55] <CAPcap> minimec, ok i'll try that
[21:55] <FloodBot3> phong_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <iceroot> Out_Cold: ubuntu 8.04 was the first UNR if i am correct
[21:55] <Real_Ubot> I can login to my computer using: ssh -p xxx username1@ip1, but I'm not able to copy using scp -P xxx -r /home/username1/ username2@ip2:/home/username2/ Why?
[21:55] <Real_Ubot> I use keys that also has passphrase.
[21:55] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: It should give you an option to install it then..
[21:55] <iceroot> Real_Ubot: error?
[21:56] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, activate?
[21:56] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Yes
[21:56] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[21:56] <Out_Cold> iceroot, i am running into some xorg issues on 10.04. i reported them but would like to see if this is because it's +1 or because it's hardware
[21:56] <Real_Ubot> iceroot: When I use scp -v then I see that scp can't connect.
[21:56] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: So look at the log :)
[21:57] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Pastebin it if you want to
[21:57] <iceroot> Out_Cold: 10.04 is an alpha
[21:57] <soopos> iceroot:  I get the error "Error sending message, child exited 1 ()." as I have this in .muttrc: set sendmail="postfix"
[21:57] <Real_Ubot> iceroot: Connection to... ip-numbers, port etc.
[21:57] <Real_Ubot> iceroot: Then nothing happends.
[21:57] <iceroot> Out_Cold: 10.04 is an alpha?
[21:57] <iceroot> soopos: what are you trying to do?
[21:57] <phong_> i got it
[21:57] <phong_> thanks
[21:58] <iceroot> soopos: you want to send an mail with your own smtp-server?
[21:58] <soopos> iceroot: To send a mail by Mutt
[21:58] <Out_Cold> iceroot, i know, i think the link i picked said jaunty but it was 10.04
[21:58] <soopos> iceroot: apparently it is a must, since I cannot find another way
[21:58] <iceroot> soopos: and you want to send the mail to?
[21:59] <iceroot> soopos: local or internet
[21:59] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, http://pastebin.ca/1755207
[21:59] <phong_> question: how do i know if my nvidia is sli  ?
[21:59] <phong_> any help
[22:00] <CShadowRun> phong_: do you have 2 graphics cards?
[22:00] <phong_> yes
[22:00] <CShadowRun> is there a big-ass wire going between them?
[22:00] <phong_> i just enable it with command: sudo nvidia-xconfig --sli=on
[22:00] <soopos> iceroot: internet
[22:00] <CAPcap> minimec, edited and saved
[22:00] <CAPcap> now what?
[22:01] <kermit> what's the fastest way to be notified of, and enabled to reply to, an email?
[22:01] <iceroot> soopos: maybe its better to use a smtp from gmx, google, hotmail or something else then setting aup a local mail-server
[22:02] <minimec> CAPcap: try to reboot. I guess that should do. If not, boot in recovery and update-initramfs -u -k all
[22:02] <CAPcap> minimec, ok will do. i'll keep hounding u if i keep having problems ;)
[22:02] <phong_> question: how to do alias  for  cls = 'clear'
[22:03] <trism> phong_: alias cls=clear
[22:04] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Which version of ubuntu is this btw?
[22:04] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, Karmic.
[22:04] <phong_> i know but where to make it perminnat
[22:04] <phong_> something with bashrc
[22:04] <trism> phong_: add it to ~/.bashrc
[22:04] <phong_> ok
[22:05] <CAPcap> unknown command 'update-initramfs'
[22:05] <phong_> ok how do i reload the bash
[22:05] <phong_> any help?
[22:06] <CAPcap> minimec
[22:06] <minimec> CAPcap: what. You did it befor, when you activated kms. Why should it be unknown now?
[22:06] <phong_> how to reload the ~/.bashrc
[22:06] <CAPcap> i dont know
[22:06] <phong_> source ~/.bashrc ?
[22:06] <CAPcap> should it be a space instead of a dash?
[22:06] <trism> phong_: that should work
[22:06] <minimec> your on the live cd?
[22:06] <CAPcap> no
[22:06] <minimec> CAPcap: your on the live cd?
[22:07] <Out_Cold> CAPcap, you should use the tab auto-completion to correct your spelling errors
[22:07] <CAPcap> Grub command line
[22:07] <minimec> CAPcap: Did you try to reboot normally?
[22:07] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, is this useful? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305740   - It means nothing to me.
[22:07] <CAPcap> yes and it didnt work minimec
[22:07] <minimec> CAPcap: You have to load a recovery kernel and then choose the root console.
[22:08] <CAPcap> i dont even know what that means minimec
[22:08] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Try installing xorg-driver-fglrx package, then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure Driver fglrx is in the Device section
[22:08] <lnxsmith> in case anyone wants ot help, Linux Journal set up a chipin page to help Shawn Powers, llinux journal editor, because his house burned down today: http://helpshawnpowersfamily.chipin.com/help-shawn-powers-family
[22:08] <CAPcap> should i do that command from the live CD?
[22:09] <phong_> i'm trying to make linux command accordingly to windows ;)
[22:09] <phong_> haha
[22:09] <phong_> brb
[22:09] <minimec> CAPcap: when you boot up, press... <left shift> button before grub starts to load. Choose a recovery kernel
[22:09] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, it's already the newest version.
[22:09] <CAPcap> ok thanks
[22:09] <galvao> Guys, I desperately need some help in here... I accidentally deleted 4.1Gb of files and ext3grep isn't working
[22:10] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, where about in the configuration file am I supposed to be looking?
[22:10] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Ok reinstall it then and make sure you have fglrx in xorg.conf then reboot
[22:10] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, driver is Vesa.
[22:10] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: The Device section
[22:10] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Change it to fglrx
[22:10] <CompuHacker> galvao: Go undelete them. Also, don't touch the disk until you do.
[22:10] <soreau> SealedWithAKiss: Remove then reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx then reboot
[22:10] <galvao> CompuHacker: How do I do that?
[22:11] <CAPcap> ok i have box with stuff in it, it appears to be a version of ubuntu, then the same thing with recovery mode, that a diferent ver with another recovery mode the 2 mem test options
[22:11] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, I'm on it now.
[22:11] <galvao> I've tried with ext3grep but I get a lot of "Note: Inode 2148434 has non-zero dtime (1263758919  Sun Jan 17 18:08:39 2010) but non-zero block list (8599552) [ext3grep does not consider this inode to be deleted]" lines and then: "ext3grep: inode.cc:99: void inode_mmap(int): Assertion `refs_to_mmap[group] == 0' failed." and "Aborted"
[22:11] <minimec> CAPcap: Choose the recovery kernel 2md in line.
[22:11] <CompuHacker> galvao: Please wait.
[22:11] <galvao> I'm desperate here :(
[22:11] <galvao> OK
[22:12] <CAPcap> but ive been getting this and it doesnt matter what i pic, nothing boots up, i have sounds that tell me its like at the log in screen but i have no picture
[22:12] <minimec> CAPcap: Then the root console
[22:12] <CAPcap> whats a root console?
[22:12] <yester64> @CAPcap its the root user
[22:14] <minimec> CAPcap: MA you have a grub menu in front of you, there you can choos a recovery kernel (should be 2nd in the menu), the the text booting process should start and at the end you should have the option to go to a root command line. That's easy... really.
[22:14] <CompuHacker> galvao: Sorry, I can see now that I didn't know what I was getting into. There is commercial software that might work, but barring that, the data is gone.
[22:14] <CompuHacker> galvao: Read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3grep
[22:14] <galvao> omg...
[22:14] <CAPcap> i doesnt give me options it just runs through awhole bunch of text then goes to a black screen
[22:14] <CompuHacker> Sorry :(
[22:15] <plustax> Okay I'm having a small yet slightly annoying issue. In myspace I go to login and I can't see what im typing. It just stays white when I type. When I highlight it though I see that it was actually typing. Same thing happens in facebook chat. I'm running 9.10 Any ideas?
[22:15] <galvao> CompuHacker: But I didn't formatted the disk
[22:15] <minimec> CAPcap: OK. Cab you do <ctrl><alt>F1 ?
[22:16] <CAPcap> where?
[22:16] <galvao> CompuHacker: I "shift-deleted" the directory in Dolphin
[22:16] <CompuHacker> galvao: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[22:16] <CompuHacker> That might help.
[22:16] <galvao> Yes I'm going there right now
[22:16] <galvao> CompuHacker: Thanks
[22:16] <minimec> CAPcap: Type it on your keyboard Hold <ctrl><alt>, then press F1
[22:17] <CAPcap> i get that. when am i supposed to do that?
[22:17] <minimec> CAPcap: It should give you a console.
[22:17] <Hawkal> What is the idea around the way files and folders are kept in ubuntu?(for example what goes where for an install)  I believe the more centralised way windows does it is better.
[22:17] <Out_Cold> is anyone else running the unr 10.04?
[22:17] <Hawkal> at least it seems more logical
[22:17] <Craig_Dem> I run 10.04
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> Alpha2
[22:18] <Out_Cold> any bugs?
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> Two
[22:18] <Out_Cold> xorg?
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> But they are discreet.
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> No
[22:18] <CompuHacker> Hawkal, I believe it's possible that some programs will treat linux directories like Windows ones, to the point of using \ instead of /
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> Libnotify and something I think is related to compiz.
[22:19] <CompuHacker> But otherwise, that's just a feature of Linux you'll need to get used to.
[22:19] <Out_Cold> Craig_Dem, what's your netbook?
[22:19] <Craig_Dem> I run desktop.
[22:19] <plustax> Okay I'm having a small yet slightly annoying issue. In myspace I go to login and I can't see what im typing. It just stays white when I type. When I highlight it though I see that it was actually typing. Same thing happens in facebook chat. I'm running 9.10 Any ideas?
[22:19] <Craig_Dem> Agh
[22:19] <t0rc> Is there a way to make the virtual consoles have a nice background, etc. as seen in SUSE or mandriva?
[22:19] <Craig_Dem> Just worked out what unr is >_>
[22:19] <Real_Ubot> I can scp to my computer having ssh server installed (using keys) but I'm not able to scp back top my computer having only the ssh client. Why? I have changed the port from 22 to another port in my sshh_config fil and disabled password login only letting users login using keys.
[22:19] <Out_Cold> Craig_Dem, i was wondering about netbook remix
[22:19] <Out_Cold> :p
[22:20] <Craig_Dem> Yeah, my bad.
[22:20] <Hawkal> CompuHacker , it isn't the directories, it's the whole structure that doesn't seem logical to me
[22:20] <iWolf> How would I resize my windows partition and make room for Ubuntu?
[22:20] <cjae> http://pastebin.com/m6b70f526
[22:20] <Out_Cold> well i just finished downloading the 9.10 release so i'll try that
[22:21] <minimec> CAPcap: Still living?
[22:21] <furicle> @Real_Ubot - why change port number?  anyway, running ssh -v -v -v will give you more info as it tries, you can spot better where it fails
[22:21] <Out_Cold> iWolf, the live cd has options for that in the partition editor
[22:21] <CompuHacker> Hawkal, need I remind you that Linux was devised by a team of supernerds, who probably invented logic, and beer.
[22:21] <CAPcap> no. my computer wont even gove me that thing with the recovery anymore
[22:21] <infid> you can just do -vvv
[22:21] <iWolf> Out_Cold: Is there a resize option?
[22:21] <plustax> Okay I'm having a small yet slightly annoying issue. In myspace I go to login and I can't see what im typing. It just stays white when I type. When I highlight it though I see that it was actually typing. Same thing happens in facebook chat. I'm running 9.10 Any ideas?
[22:22] <CompuHacker> Plustax, I advise you not to repeat yourself more than once every 30 or so minutes.
[22:22] <Out_Cold> iWolf, last time i installed next to a windows OS, yes there was. it should shrink your windows and allow for ubuntu to install in a logical partition
[22:22] <CompuHacker> If someone can help you, they will.
[22:22] <iWolf> Out_Cold: Automated?
[22:22] <furicle> @Hawal - remember that Unix systems often have/had different folders on different drive arrays etc. Because you can mount anything anywhere with different options (like read only) it maximizes flexability
[22:22] <cjae> plustax: do you have a certain theme installed
[22:23] <plustax> CompuHacker: Have you ever been far as decided even as to do look want more like?
[22:23] <minimec> CAPcap: That is so strange...
[22:23] <Out_Cold> iWolf, yes it was the guided resize option (automated) or you can resize manually inside the live cd using gparted and the ntfs pluggin i think
[22:23] <plustax> cjae yes sir I do, and I go to adjust colors in the tab and everything is grayed out like I cant change it
[22:23] <tobiasz> hi
[22:23] <iWolf> Out_Cold: What version did you install
[22:23] <CompuHacker> plustax: You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can.
[22:23] <CAPcap> oknow i have my recovery screen back....
[22:23] <Out_Cold> iWolf, last one along side windows was 8.10
[22:24] <iWolf> Ahhh
[22:24] <tarski> if i have hardy can i add karmic repos to my source list and install stuff from there?
[22:24] <iWolf> I found a page about it
[22:24] <iWolf> Thank you
[22:24] <plustax> CompuHacker how are you bro. are you from e/b/aums liek meh
[22:24] <minimec> CAPcap: Ok. choose the recovery kernel with the arrow keys
[22:24] <CAPcap> ok
[22:24] <Hawkal> CompuHacker, okay beer makes up for it.  It just makes more sense to me when related things are kept together in a central way
[22:24] <CAPcap> then
[22:24] <CAPcap> ?
[22:24] <tobiasz> I lost my volume control switch from the panel how do I add it back?
[22:24] <tobiasz> gnome
[22:24] <cjae> plustax: some webpages have colors embedded in them and you cant change it and some themes interfer with these colors, I have not found a solution around besides changing theme or using highlight
[22:24] <minimec> CAPcap: Now boot that recovery kernel
[22:25] <CompuHacker> Hawkal, as a side effect of inventing beer, those same nerds probably drank it whilst devising glorious GNU.
[22:25] <plustax> Gotcha. Thank you cjae
[22:25] <cjae> yw
[22:25] <CAPcap> ok then what?
[22:25] <plustax> CompuHacker pm
[22:25] <galvao> CompuHacker: I see that the disk must be unmounted for ext3grep to work
[22:26] <minimec> CAPcap: What happens now?
[22:26] <CompuHacker> then unmount it
[22:26] <CompuHacker> jeeze.
[22:26] <CAPcap> text goes thru, goes to black screen
[22:26] <furicle>  @hawkal - try man hier and see if that helps it make a little more sense
[22:26] <minimec> CAPcap: ok. wait...
[22:27] <CAPcap> ok nothing is happening
[22:27] <minimec> CAPcap: There we have a problem. There should be a white menu on a blue background with a menu option 'root' Dropto root shell prompt
[22:28] <CAPcap> well there isnt
[22:28] <CAPcap> what # on the list should it be?
[22:28] <minimec> CAPcap: that is really strange...
[22:28] <CAPcap> because maybe i just cant see it, maybe i can scroll ro ir blind
[22:29] <CAPcap> to* it* blind
[22:29] <Hawkal> CompuHacker, good point .
[22:29] <tobiasz> I lost my volume control switch from the panel how do I add it back? (gnome)
[22:29] <Hawkal> furicle, thank you
[22:30] <NanoGuy> hi
[22:30] <minimec> CAPcap: That menu takes the whole screen.
[22:30] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | tobiasz
[22:30] <CAPcap> i dont have any important files yet, i'll just reinstall ubuntu
[22:30] <t0rc> Is there a way to make the virtual consoles have a nice background, etc. as seen in SUSE or mandriva?
[22:30] <tobiasz> ubottu I do NOT want to reset this panel
[22:30] <minimec> CAPcap: Do you have two seperate partition? Means do you have a seperate /home?
[22:31] <CAPcap> idk i dont think so
[22:32] <CAPcap> although... it does split my hard drive in half... id been wondering about that
[22:32] <CompuHacker> I did that once. With a hacksaw.
[22:32] <CAPcap> i can reinstall next to it instead of over it
[22:33] <minimec> CAPcap: THen I even recommend a reinstall. You know, you could then decide to store the data of your users on a seperate /home partition. Thar should be a menu option during installation (take the partition wizard.) Like that you can always chage your System without loosing the data on the seperate /home partition.
[22:33] <MK13> i have an IR port on my laptop how can i find out if ubuntu supports it/ how to use it ?
[22:34] <CAPcap> is it possible to install kubuntu along side ubuntu from within ubuntu?
[22:34] <LjL> !kubuntu > CAPcap    (CAPcap, see the private message from ubottu) yes
[22:34] <minimec> CAPcap: One smaller system partition, mounted as '/', A SWAP, big /home partition. The wizard will guide you, if you decide to reinstall.
[22:35] <quizme> i'm trying to scan with my epson nx515, but I'm not feeling the love.  can anybody help out?
[22:35] <CAPcap> im aware of what kubuntu is
[22:35] <CompuHacker> Please install DoublePink® Love Ink cartridge in slot 3.
[22:36] <minimec> CAPcap: Yes you can.
[22:36] <quizme> compuhacker thanks....
[22:36] <CompuHacker> Anytime.
[22:36] <CAPcap> is it possible to remove one of them after if u decide u dont want it, without damagind the other?
[22:36] <leper_> hello
[22:36]  * dupondje getting frustrated on CIFS
[22:36] <minimec> CAPcap: Yes, it is.
[22:36] <CAPcap> ok
[22:36] <leper_> i have a problem with sound on a netbook
[22:36] <CAPcap> just wondering for the future
[22:37] <leper_> i can make sound works
[22:37] <leper_> can't
[22:37] <minimec> CAPcap: np It's good wondering.
[22:37] <cjae> http://pastebin.com/m6b70f526
[22:37] <leper_> can someone helpme please
[22:38] <dupondje> Why is wireshark run without root permissions ?
[22:39] <CAPcap> ok im at the Prepare Disk Space point. i can install them side by side which i dont want cuz its theyre both ubuntu 9.10 Erase and use the entire disk, and specify partitions manual. what do i want to do?
[22:39] <dupondje> it doesn't have access to eth devices without being root
[22:39] <plustax> leper_  i can help you
[22:39] <leper_> thank you plustax
[22:40] <plustax> leper_ running 9.10?
[22:40] <leper_> well my friend, i have a netbool a toshiba nb200
[22:40] <CAPcap> minimec which do i want?
[22:40] <leper_> yes las ubuntu remix
[22:40] <leper_> last i mean
[22:40] <plustax> okay. I can vnc into your system and fix it if you'd like
[22:41] <CodeWar> just installed 9.10 and I cant access my cdrom anymore .. after I inject a cd nothing prompts up and /media/cdrom ls doesnt show anything
[22:41] <CodeWar> this is the same cd I used to install 9.10 so ..
[22:41] <minimec> CAPcap: you can use the entire disk. Isn't there a wizard? Click next you can always come back.
[22:41] <zenlunatic> CodeWar: modded fstab?
[22:41] <plustax> CodeWar im actually having the exact same problem
[22:42] <CodeWar> zenlunatic, nopes but this is the original contents /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[22:43] <leper_> plustax: what is vnc?
[22:43] <MorphyNOR> !vnc | leper_
[22:44] <leper_> thank you MorphyNOR
[22:44] <leper_> plustax: can you do it?
[22:44] <MorphyNOR> thank ubottu
[22:44] <CAPcap> well i'll be back later i have to go. if i need more help i'll be back
[22:44] <minimec> CAPcap: bye +cu
[22:45] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, bad news. I rebooted, and Grub isn't working. I installed Grub2 earlier on, and now it's not even giving me boot options.
[22:45] <CodeWar> anybody? in fact cdrom doesnt even show up in nautilus .. whats the way to query my drive and check if it responds on the bus?
[22:45] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, so at the moment. I have an expensive brick.
[22:46] <zenlunatic> what device have you bricked
[22:46] <Hilikus> hwo do i make the permissions of a new folder be the same if they are inside a given directory?
[22:47] <SealedWithAKiss> soreau, any experience with Grub?
[22:47] <morphix> CodeWar: try doing: dmesg | grep "Attached" | grep "CD"
[22:47] <erUSUL> CodeWar: try to manually mount it? "devkit-disks --mount /dev/sr0"
[22:47] <meowbuntu> hi all i have a problem i need to edit the boot infomation where is fstab in grub 2
[22:47] <Hilikus> so any mkdir inside /private would have 600 for example
[22:47] <quizme> what is libusb and hotplug?
[22:47] <CodeWar> morphix, [    4.480987] sr 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[22:47] <MorphyNOR> Hilikus: any subdir of any directory will have the same permissions
[22:48] <morphix> so its /dev/sr0
[22:48] <MorphyNOR> Hilikus: unless you change that manually
[22:48] <morphix> not scd0
[22:48] <morphix> so change your /etc/fstab entry
[22:48] <phong_> question: how to mount  a an iso and install program from it
[22:48] <Hilikus> MorphyNOR: thats not what i'm seeing
[22:48] <morphix> CodeWar: ^
[22:48] <phong_> any idea?
[22:48] <phong_> i have an iso file how to make it a drive for it
[22:48] <MorphyNOR> Hilikus: make sure you're using the correct user when making those dirs :)
[22:48] <erUSUL> morphix: /dev/sr0 is alink to /dev/scd0 or viceversa
[22:49] <JeffM> is there a way to find out who maintains a specific package?
[22:49] <MorphyNOR> !mount | phong_
[22:49] <erUSUL> morphix: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-01-17 14:38 /dev/scd0 -> sr0
[22:49] <MorphyNOR> hmm
[22:49] <morphix> erUSUL: well i used to have scd0 in my fstab
[22:49] <zenlunatic> JeffM: apt-cache show package
[22:49] <morphix> and my dvdrw drive never worked
[22:49] <phong_> can't you just give me answer?
[22:49] <CodeWar> morphix, thats a good catch let me try changing and rebooting
[22:49] <leper_> hello i can make the speaker sound on a toshiba nb200
[22:49] <leper_> i can't i mean
[22:50] <JeffM> zenlunatic: I don't actualy use ubuntu, I'm a project administrator of software that's being included, and I need to talk to whoever's making the packages about the version that they are using now.
[22:50] <SealedWithAKiss> I attempted to upgrade Grub to Grub2. Since upgrading, whenever I boot my system Grub displays Error 15 and hangs. I can't boot into any OS, and at the moment I'm using a Live CD. Has anybody had this error, or can anybody help?
[22:50] <Hilikus> MorphyNOR: http://pastebin.com/m1f058f3
[22:50] <mariooliveira> hi
[22:50] <meowbuntu> also i need the uuid of all my partitions
[22:51] <erUSUL> !uuid
[22:51] <mariooliveira> im having issues on  sound. on sound preferences i dont have any hardware to select. there is some issues about sound. anyone knows how to fix this
[22:51] <zenlunatic> JeffM: google ubuntu package database
[22:51] <IdleOne> phong_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[22:51] <MorphyNOR> phong_: check if Gmount is still around
[22:51] <ballsac> hey
[22:52] <ballsac> my toilet doesn't flush very well
[22:52] <ballsac> how to fix? any ideas guys ?
[22:52] <Hilikus> MorphyNOR: .. and tmp don't have the same permissions
[22:52] <ballsac> i gotta "go" there soon
[22:52] <JeffM> zenlunatic: yeah did that before I came here, can't realy see on the page where it says who's doing it and how to contact em ;)
[22:52] <leper_> hello i can't make the speaker work on a toshiba nb200 netbook with ubuntu karmic
[22:52] <mariooliveira>  i  got  audio problems too
[22:53] <SealedWithAKiss> I attempted to upgrade Grub to Grub2. Since upgrading, whenever I boot my system Grub displays Error 15 and hangs. I can't boot into any OS, and at the moment I'm using a Live CD. Has anybody had this error, or can anybody help?
[22:53] <mariooliveira>  in sound preferences i dont have any hardware to choose from
[22:54] <leper_> hello i can't make the speaker work on a toshiba nb200 netbook with ubuntu karmic
[22:54] <mariooliveira> well i cant make it work on my desktop
[22:54] <Tartaros> SealedWithAKiss: error 15 is a known condition, have you tried the help on the web:
[22:54] <Tartaros> ?
[22:55] <SealedWithAKiss> Tartaros, I have tried browsing the internet for solutions. Since I'm a novice, none make any sense.
[22:55] <mariooliveira> omg im almost a bout to change for open suse :(
[22:55] <boss_mc> SealedWithAKiss: see my pm
[22:56] <n8lag> I am trying to record with microphone using parec.  it says 'connection refused.' any ideas why?  thanks
[22:56] <mariooliveira> i have audio problems too
[22:56] <BluesKaj> mariooliveira, threatening to change OSs won't help you get help
[22:57] <mariooliveira> lol
[22:58] <BluesKaj> mariooliveira, aplay -l in the terminal ...what soundcard?
[22:59] <mariooliveira> card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
[22:59] <mariooliveira>   Subdevices: 1/1
[22:59] <mariooliveira>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[22:59] <mariooliveira> card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
[22:59] <mariooliveira>   Subdevices: 1/1
[22:59] <FloodBot3> mariooliveira: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <mariooliveira>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[22:59] <Tartaros> mariooliveira, n8lag, leper: the info of your problems is too vague. Youre supposed to say what exactly doesnt work and what exactly you tried to make it work
[22:59] <Tartaros> "it says connection refused" is really not enough of a description
[23:00] <hipitihop> Ever since I have upgraded to Karmic, my bluetooth keyboard & mouse work for some time and then drop out, needing me to either remove and reinsert the dongle or force repairing. Is this a known issue with the bluetooth stack ?
[23:00] <mariooliveira> i dont have any hardware on sound preferences to select
[23:01] <mariooliveira>  but  when i rebooted computer is i had sound
[23:01] <parmita> hi. has anyone here worked with ftdi breakout boards?
[23:01] <chrisf1> I'm running an old version of the ubuntu server (8.04) and I would like to upgrade to latest. Running update-manager does not give me the option to do a dist-upgrade. What's the best way to get updated? Thanks!
[23:02] <parmita> i get an error: cant open device everytime i try to run my code for ft232r
[23:02] <LjL> chrisf1, from 8.04 you can't upgrade directly to the latest version, but only to the following one (8.10). since 8.04 is an LTS release, though, you will be able to upgrade to the next LTS, which should come out in April i think
[23:03] <chrisf1> How do I do that? I want a clean way to upgrade version->version
[23:03] <erUSUL> chrisf1: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 --> 9.10
[23:03] <Xarver> Is there a way to increase volume of a ogv video with a gui?
[23:03] <leper_> hello i can't make the speaker work on a toshiba nb200 netbook with ubuntu karmic
[23:03] <erUSUL> chrisf1: or wait until april and do 8.04 --> 10.04
[23:03] <leper_> hello i can't make the speaker work on a toshiba nb200 netbook with ubuntu karmic
[23:04] <erUSUL> !repeat | leper_
[23:04] <LjL> !upgrade > chrisf1    (chrisf1, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:04] <dupondje> jami: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/508930
[23:05] <n8lag> oh well,  i typed 'parec test.wav' and it    said 'connectioon refused'
[23:05] <theblue> hi all.
[23:06] <theblue> i'm trying to set up 9.10 server, and i'm trying to figure out how to create a partition that spans 2 physical disks, in the simplest way.
[23:06] <Stealth_> hi, i have a process running as root using 100% CPU, named .setup.26357
[23:06] <theblue> i'm not sure whether to use RAID or LVM, or what settings to use.
[23:06] <fission6> i am trying to follow the following intstructions: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html i have installed partition manager as they've instructed and rebooted but i do not see partition manager showing up in GRUB? can someone point me in the right direction
[23:06] <mariooliveira> rebooting
[23:07] <NotTooSmart> having a problem with dma on ubuntu 9.10, getting a message in dmesg | grep ata about setting to udma mode 33 becuase of 40-wire cable, but im using an 80 wire... confirmed.....
[23:07] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: maybe the cable is loose or something ? tried replacing it?
[23:08] <Hilikus> how can i know if a file is hard-linked more than once? the terminal seems to know it to colour the string
[23:08] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, the cable works fine on my xp machine, and windows xp sets dma mode 5 on it automatically, so the cable is not the issue
[23:08] <Xarver> Is there a way to increase volume of a ogv video?
[23:08] <parmita> hi everyone..need some ftdi ft232r breakout board interfacing help...anyone?
[23:08] <LjL> Hilikus: stat filename
[23:08] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: then is a kernel bug report it.
[23:08] <erUSUL> !bugs | NotTooSmart
[23:09] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: you can also force the dma mode on the ata link if you want (dunno if it may have ill side effects)
[23:09] <fission6> should partition manager be showing up in grub
[23:09] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, what could happen, I am sure its the right cable...
[23:10] <sje46> hey, I'm trying to play a DVD, but Totem says that it can not read from resource.  But it read DVDs just fine before....
[23:10] <Hilikus> thanks LjL
[23:11] <Xarver> Anyone?
[23:12] <chrisf1> Thanks LjL. Perfect!
[23:14] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: really dunno; you can put something like libata.force=80c or libata.force=udma133
[23:14] <Crinion> hi, my system seems to think I have postgres 8.3 installed and running but It cant apt-get remove it or stop it
[23:14] <Crinion> and ps ax doesnt list it
[23:14] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, put that where?
[23:14] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: really dunno; you can put something like libata.force=80c or libata.force=udma5
[23:15] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: as a kernel boot parameter. in /etc/default/grub in the string that has splash and quiet
[23:15] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: then do « sudo update-grub »
[23:15] <Crinion> how can i force it to remove it or undo the fact that i tried to apt-get remove it
[23:15] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, well, i got one disk with udma 100 and one with 133
[23:15] <Crinion> I cant install any new applications or modules until it is gone
[23:15] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: you can specify the ata device
[23:16] <meganerd> Crinion: sudo apt-get install postgres
[23:16] <Crinion> install it
[23:16] <Crinion> ok
[23:16] <Crinion> good idea
[23:16] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, alrgight i got that file open, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet""libata.force=80c"  ?
[23:16] <jellow> how can i change display to 600x800 ?
[23:17] <jellow> i mean 800x600
[23:17] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: for example my dmesg says for one of my disks ata5.01: ATA-7: Maxtor 6Y080L0, YAR41BW0, max UDMA/133 --> so it will be "libata.force=5.01:udma5"
[23:18] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: no GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet libata.force=80c"
[23:18] <meganerd> jellow: System -> Preferences -> Display
[23:18] <jellow> meganerd: im on fluxbox , removed gnome
[23:19] <jellow> !xorg |  jellow
[23:19] <meganerd> jellow: that was sort of important
[23:19] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: libata.force=80c will afect all ata ports so make sure you have 80 wire cables in all your devices
[23:19] <meowbuntu> how can i mount partitions on my hdd
[23:19] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: if not specify the ata port
[23:19] <meowbuntu> from live cd
[23:19] <erUSUL> !mount | meowbuntu
[23:19] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, I only have the hd/s connected
[23:19] <Xarver> ???
[23:19] <meganerd> jellow: you get to learn xrandr
[23:19] <adamkex> how large is the ubuntu installation?
[23:19] <meganerd> jellow: or install grandr
[23:20] <erUSUL> !requirements
[23:20] <Xarver> Anyone?
[23:20] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL,
[23:20] <NotTooSmart> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet libata.force=80c"
[23:20] <meowbuntu> erUSUL: mount from live cd
[23:20] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, I did sudo update-grub do I reboot now
[23:20] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: ok; good luck
[23:20] <jellow> meganerd: i tried both of them none of them have the screen resolution , They only have 800x480
[23:20] <adamkex> erUSUL: howcome the cd is ~700mb but the installation need at least 4gb?
[23:20] <meganerd> jellow: on my laptop it would look like this: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 800x600
[23:21] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, ill let ya know what it says when the server gets back online
[23:21] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: yes; raead the docs. if you have a specific question come back to us
[23:21] <Xarver> Is there a way to increase volume of a ogv video? My microphone is a bit quiet when recording with recordmydesktop and I don't know how to split the audio
[23:21] <meganerd> jellow:  does xrandr -q list 800x600 as a supported mode?
[23:21] <erUSUL> adamkex: the wonders of data compression ?
[23:22] <erUSUL> Xarver: use an audio editor ? audacity ?
[23:22] <adamkex> erUSUL: ~4gb of data can be compressed to ~500mb?
[23:22] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, it says they are both configured for udma/100 now which is what I think the controller on this pc can do, so I'm guessing its fixed, but is their a way to test?
[23:23] <erUSUL> adamkex: i guess the 4GiB of 0's can be compressed even further ;)
[23:23] <jellow> meganerd: i get xrandr: cannot find mode 800x600
[23:23] <meganerd> Xarver: jellow just run "xrandr -q"
[23:23] <meganerd> jellow: it will list the supported modes
[23:23] <adamkex> erUSUL: ok
[23:23] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: to test the speed ? sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sdx
[23:24] <dragonnutds> anyone out there who can help me
[23:24] <Xarver> meganerd, ?
[23:24] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, heh, i should have done that before so I'd have something to compare.... but sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdx shows them both using udma5 now. so im guessing its all good
[23:24] <Xarver> erUSUL, it's a video. :\
[23:24] <jellow> meganerd: ok got list of supported modes 800x600 not there
[23:24] <erUSUL> !yay | NotTooSmart
[23:25] <meganerd> jellow: what video card is this?  on my system xrandr -q looks like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38065463
[23:25] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, alright, one last question :-) if it shows udma5 that means its actually using it yes?
[23:25] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: yes; afaik
[23:25] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, alright, maybe i'll do a DD just to see the speeds ;-p
[23:26] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: but anyway libata.force is a band aid you should still report it as a bug ...
[23:26] <blubaustin> hello
[23:27] <NotTooSmart> erUSUL, I am 99.9% convinced this is the right cable, but i have ordered an 80-wire from amazon.com, Ill change my grub.cfg back and if it does the same thing ill report a bug, I don't want to report prematuraly :-D
[23:27] <fission6> how big should swap space be
[23:27] <erUSUL> NotTooSmart: ok
[23:27] <erUSUL> fission6: depends on how much ram you have
[23:27] <erUSUL> fission6: and if you wat to suspend to disk (hibernate)
[23:28] <fission6> well how can i find out how much ram i have
[23:28] <NotTooSmart> fission6, free
[23:28] <erUSUL> fission6: free -m
[23:28] <blubaustin> Anyways I have a ubuntu 9.10 headless server that is running proftpd 1.3.2c that I compiled from source. The problem is, is that I edited the proftpd.conf to use mod_ban but it doesn't appear that its obiding by the proftpd.conf
[23:28] <fission6> 496 free
[23:28] <fission6> what does that mean
[23:28] <jellow> meganerd: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m273bfc3c , If that helps
[23:28] <kane77> how do I encrypt files in ubuntu?
[23:28] <knxville> Why does my pc not reckon my flash card?
[23:29] <erUSUL> kane77: on the fly? a whole parition? a folder? a single file just once in a while?
[23:29] <jellow> meganerd: My screen was before i plugged in my external monitor
[23:29] <jellow> meganerd: fine*
[23:30] <fission6> sees i have 1/2 gig of ram so what would i want to set for linux-swap size?
[23:30] <kane77> erUSUL, a single file once in a while (I want to store the file elsewhere and be sure it's safe)
[23:30] <meganerd> jellow: is this a netbook by for i in *.JPG; do mv "$i" "${i/.JPG}".jpg; done
[23:30] <erUSUL> kane77: use "gpg -c file" it will ask for a password twice
[23:30] <meganerd> jellow: sorry about
[23:30] <meganerd> jellow: I meant to say is this a netbook?
[23:31] <kane77> erUSUL, thanks, how do I decrypt it?
[23:31] <Hobz> Heyo, I'm trying to get tor set up using privoxy and foxyproxy.  Everything seems to be running, but the check.torproject.org says it's no good.  Ideas?
[23:31] <erUSUL> kane77: "gpg file" iirc
[23:32] <jellow> meganerd: oh god im so stupid , Restarted x and works
[23:32] <erUSUL> kane77: or maybe is " gpg -d file"
[23:32] <jellow> meganerd: sorry for waisting your time
[23:32] <meganerd> jellow: there should be a nicer way to do that
[23:32] <meganerd> jellow: not to worry
[23:33] <erUSUL> fission6: for 512 MiB i would set up 512MiB or 1GiB of swap
[23:33] <fission6> nice
[23:33] <kane77> erUSUL, ok, I'll try it.. is the originalfile.pgp the encrypted version? I tried it with 64KB file and the created pgp file is 20KB :D
[23:34] <kane77> erUSUL, erm, s/pgp/gpg
[23:34] <erUSUL> kane77: it compress it before encrypting
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> Hobz:  there was a tor/privoxy on ubuntu wiki page i followed a few months back - theres a privoxy setting you have to change to make it use TOR i recall.
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Hobz:  ive also been having issues with privoxy crashing on me under 9.10 lately.
[23:35] <sje46> hey, Totem isn't playing DVDs for me
[23:35] <sje46> I need help
[23:35] <sabgenton> I want to make a init.d script
[23:35] <sabgenton> i think
[23:35] <erUSUL> !dvd | sje46
[23:35] <sabgenton> for sudo  pon bla
[23:35] <Hobz> Dr_Willis, Thanks, I'll have a look
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  you could just puit the command in /etc/rc.local if its a simple command and not  a real 'service'
[23:35] <sabgenton> ah
[23:35] <sabgenton> thx
[23:36] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: where do I put poff
[23:36] <sabgenton> for shutdownn
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  no idea really.  wonder if it reazlly matters if the pc is shutting down. :)
[23:36]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what pon and poff does.
[23:37] <sabgenton> oh it starts a dialer
[23:37] <sje46> the thing that the idiotic bot is failing to realize is that the DVDs were playing fine before
[23:37] <sabgenton> pon myisp
[23:37] <sabgenton> poff
[23:37] <blubaustin> apparently nobody knows about proftpd, and mod_ban.
[23:37] <sabgenton> just offs what whas pond
[23:37] <erUSUL> sje46: no *you* failed to mention it in your question
[23:37] <blubaustin> actually I can quote my question
[23:37] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: why do you say thats not a reall service
[23:38] <sje46> I asked before, erUSUL but no one bothered to answer me
[23:38] <sabgenton> if I make a script for it the it would be?
[23:38] <blubaustin> ": Anyways I have a ubuntu 9.10 headless server that is running proftpd 1.3.2c that I compiled from source. The problem is, is that I edited the proftpd.conf to use mod_ban but it doesn't appear that its obiding by the proftpd.conf"
[23:39] <jpds> sje46: DVDs are broken in Karmic, see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/466389
[23:39] <fission6> "Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6" i unmounted this but it keeps complaining its not unmounted
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  is it a actual server that does somting?  sounds like its just a command you are running to connect. Go ahead and write an init script if you want.. or learn to make a upstart script for it.
[23:40] <blubaustin> should I also give a link to my proftpd.conf?
[23:40] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: hm ok
[23:40] <sje46> where does it say how to fix it though, jpds
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  you could just put an icon on the desktop to run the command if you wanted to.. make one to turn it off  also.
[23:41]  * Dr_Willis wonders why network-manager isent handling the 'pon' stuiff.. but No idea what pon is :P
[23:41] <sabgenton> pon has been around since time begain I would have thought someone would have made sometthing to daemonize it on start up
[23:41] <komentarze_listy> Hey dudes, anyone here knows how to customize WDM ?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  its very likely they have. You checked the forums or wiki pages yet?
[23:41] <sabgenton> !network-manager
[23:41] <sabgenton> checking
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> !info wdm
[23:42] <blubaustin> >_>
[23:42] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: pon and poff are used to connect to dial up and dsl setted up by pppconfig or pppoeconfig
[23:42] <blubaustin> !info proftpd
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> !ftpd
[23:43] <Hobz> Dr_Willis, Hmm, I've edited the privoxy config, but I'm still getting the same results.  Hmmm
[23:43] <sabgenton> erUSUL: know a nice way to run it as a service on start up
[23:43] <sabgenton> ?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> !pppoe
[23:43] <StevenX> what's that ntfs thing i need again to write to ntfs?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-3g | StevenX
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> StevenX:  its installed by default normally.
[23:44] <sabgenton> oh yeah
[23:44] <sabgenton> rember that link
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> StevenX:  theres also the ntfs-config tool
[23:44] <sabgenton> not adsl
[23:44] <sabgenton> but same diff
[23:44] <erUSUL> sabgenton: i think you can use /etc/network/interfaces for this
[23:44] <erUSUL> sabgenton: add to the file this two lines iface ppp0 inet ppp
[23:44] <sabgenton> yeah the link says it that way
[23:45] <sabgenton> so in stead of pon foo
[23:45] <sabgenton> you just
[23:45] <erUSUL> sabgenton: and "provider <isp_name>"
[23:45] <sabgenton> auto foo
[23:45] <sabgenton> ?
[23:45] <FloodBot3> sabgenton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <sabgenton> in interfaces
[23:45] <erUSUL> sabgenton: see here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_ppp_connection
[23:45] <erUSUL> sabgenton: then if you also add auto ppp0 the connection will come up with the system
[23:46] <erUSUL> sabgenton: so 3 lines in total ;)
[23:47] <adversarian> After installing ubuntu fine, it stopped working after a night of the computer being shut off. I can't get it to work: it always freezes. I tried to reinstall and the liveCD would freeze, too. I reformatted the computer and tried again. It STILL freezes on the loading logo, after the menu where I specify to install ubuntu. I reinstalled windows, to see if that worked, and it went over fine. Ubuntu still doesn't want to instal
[23:47] <adversarian> I don't understand why it worked fine, and now it suddenly doesn't. I haven't changed anything.
[23:47] <erUSUL> bad ram ?
[23:47] <morphix> thats my first assumption
[23:47] <erUSUL> memtest ?
[23:47] <morphix> ^
[23:47] <adversarian> Well, windows works fine after reinstalling.
[23:48] <sabgenton> lol it allso says
[23:48] <sabgenton> "Failing that, edit /etc/rc.local, and before the last line ("exit 0"), add: "
[23:48] <sje46> ah, found it:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987947
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> ive had windows 'appear' to work fine on systems with bad ram.. it just crashed a little bit more often
[23:48] <Hobz> Dr_Willis, got it working, thanks for the pointer
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> Hobz:  Thats what i get paid for.. oh wait.. i dont get paid for this...
[23:48] <adversarian> Are there any freeware ram checkers I could try, then?
[23:48] <iceroot> adversarian: memtest
[23:49] <Hobz> Dr_Willis, you get paid in Soul
[23:49] <erUSUL> adversarian: the livecd has memtest
[23:49] <adversarian> erUSUL: Oh! Yeah I forgot. Sorry, I've been up a good while trying to figure this out, haha. I'll try that
[23:49]  * erUSUL does not get an eurocent either :|
[23:50]  * Dr_Willis gets lots of funny looks
[23:50] <knxville> How do I see my flash card?
[23:50] <sabgenton> erUSUL: grr its allot about wvdial which I am not using
[23:50] <erUSUL> knxville: multicard reader?
[23:50] <sabgenton> just plain old pon
[23:50] <knxville> erUSUL: integrated, put it do not show up like with usb sticks or anything
[23:51] <erUSUL> sabgenton: tried editting interfaces ?
[23:51] <sabgenton> yeah I'm slow just tring to figure out what to  type
[23:51] <sabgenton> erUSUL: pastebin suggestion?
[23:52] <erUSUL> sabgenton: two lines 1) auto iface ppp0 inet ppp 2) provider <isp_name>
[23:52] <sabgenton> for what is usually $sudo pon monkeyisp
[23:52] <sabgenton> on the shell
[23:52] <sabgenton> ok
[23:52] <erUSUL> sabgenton: where <isp_name> is what you put after pon in command line
[23:52] <sabgenton> ok cool
[23:52] <sabgenton> thanks I was geting in a muddle
[23:52] <erUSUL> sabgenton: then is two lines 1) auto iface ppp0 inet ppp 2) provider monkeyisp
[23:53] <sabgenton> yep :)
[23:53] <erUSUL> sabgenton: one after the other. the second one indet it a few spaces for readibility
[23:54] <erUSUL> sabgenton: then if you want to manually bring them up or down you can use standar ifup and ifdwon. « sudo ifdown ppp0 » and « sudo ifup ppp0 »
[23:55] <Real_Ubot> Why is it possible to scp frpm my ssh client to the computer that has got ssh server installed, but not from the computer having the ssh server to my ssh client computer?
[23:56] <erUSUL> Real_Ubot: from client machine « scp user@host:/path/to/file /local/path/file_copy » should work; shouldn't it?
[23:57] <knxville> My pc will not reckon my flash card, how to fix this
[23:57] <blakkheim> Real_Ubot: scp user@server:/directory/file /local/directory/filee
[23:57] <sabgenton> erUSUL: gota go but I'll restart and see what happens
[23:58] <sabgenton> :)
[23:58] <erUSUL> sabgenton: ok
[23:58] <htaccess> how can i graphically switch users when not running gnome?
[23:58] <sabgenton> :
[23:59] <htaccess> im trying to use the fast-user-switch-applet but cant seem to get it to run
[23:59] <sabgenton> :)
[23:59] <htaccess> /usr/lib/fast-user-switch-applet/fast-user-switch-applet ? is there some specail way to invoke this if i dont have a gnoime menu?