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mccannhey tedg around?21:38
tedgmccann: Yup.21:41
tedgmccann: How are you today?21:41
mccannnot bad - weather sucks21:41
mccannyou?21:41
tedgWeather is finally getting good again, so I'm thrilled :)21:41
mccannit probably isn't sleeting where you are21:41
tedgNo, I really can't complain.  The worth thing I could complain about is a little windy :)21:42
mccannso I'm trying to catch up on all this notification spec stuff on xdg list etc21:42
mccannI've seen mentions of 0.10 version of the spec21:42
mccanndo you have any idea where that is?21:42
mccanngalago doesn't have it and chip doesn't really know21:42
tedgAh, so libnotify like notification.  Or NotificationItem?21:43
* tedg loves the naming.21:43
mccannum libnotify i guess21:43
tedgHmm, I thought that spec went 1.021:43
mccannfor example http://patches.ubuntu.com/libn/libnotify/libnotify_0.4.5-1ubuntu1.patch21:44
mccannsays 0.1021:44
mccannoh is there a 1.0?21:44
mccanngalago only has 0.921:44
tedgYeah, hmm, and the notify-osd page links to Galago too.21:44
* mccann is confused21:45
tedgSorry, I thought there'd be a link on the notify-osd page.  mpt is usually really good about linking all that stuff.21:45
mccannwell maybe he's having the same problems finding it that I am21:46
tedgI think everyone I could ping who would know is either European or off for MLK day :(21:48
tedgIf I remember right, the only changes in 0.10 were cleanups for things like the mark up.21:48
tedgI believe there were some holes in the definition of that where it actually wouldn't work with Pango.21:49
tedgI think it also added a different icon data format that the KDE guys were interested in as the current one was basically a GdkPixbuf dump.21:49
tedgErr, it seems like this WAS the link: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/notifications-0.10/spec/21:51
mccanngone21:52
mccanndarn21:52
tedgHere, this works: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/notifications-1.1/spec/21:53
mccannoh21:53
mccann!21:53
* tedg had to find that with SSH :(21:53
mccannYAY21:53
mccannthanks21:53
tedgNo problem.  Sorry it was so difficult.21:54
mccanngoogle did not help at all21:54
mccannbad google21:54
mccannshould have tried bing21:54
tedgHeh, it would have just taken you to MSDN as that's what you REALLY want :)21:56
tedgmccann: BTW, I think I know what you guys are thinking about doing with the notifications spec in shell with the notification bar.22:19
tedgAnd we looked at that a lot for the messaging menu.  I'm not sure it'll work.22:20
tedgNot because of anything spec related, but because of how people are using libnotify.22:20
mccanntedg: I'm trying to stay out of the specifics :) 22:20
mccanndanw has been leading that22:20
tedgHeh, I understand.  But the apps issue is really huge.22:21
mccannwhich issue is that?22:21
tedgThat's why we went ahead and did the libindicate work.22:21
tedgThe fact that the apps drop the notifications.  They don't track them at all.22:21
tedgBut then they expect events.  So you'll have to synthesize some of them.22:22
tedgI'm not saying it's impossible, but it'll be a PITA.22:22
mccannoh i'm certain of that part22:22
mccann:)22:22
* tedg feels for danw22:23
mccannfor now I'd settle for having one version of the spec22:23
mccannand one copy of libnotify22:23
mccannright now there are way too many different expectations22:23
mccannanyway I'm still trying to get caught up on what's going on22:24
tedgYes, that is true.22:24
tedgAnyway.  I think there's only a couple of changes you guys would need in libindicate to make your interaction work.22:24
tedgI'd be happy to make those.22:25
tedgAnd someday, I'll try to document things and get it to XDG. :-/22:25
* tedg needs more time in the day.22:25
mccannif you want to join #gnome-shell and talk to danw directly that'd be cool22:26
mccanni don't have too much to offer to the conversation yet22:26
tedgI'm about to go make dinner here in a few, so I can't talk for too long.22:27
tedgSo, I'll try to do that tomorrow.22:28
tedgI'm guessing he's also off today?22:28
mccanni just mean anytime22:28
mccannwe didn't get the day off today22:29
mccannbut he usually heads out around now so yeah tomorrow would be fine22:29
tedgReally?  That's odd.  I thought MLK day was pretty universal.22:29
tedgMust be an East Coast thing.22:29
* tedg has never lived on the East Coast.22:29
mccannsome do some don't22:30
mccannhey what  type of bots do you guys use here?22:31
mccanni'm wondering if i should set one up on gimpnet22:31
mccanndon't know much about them22:31
tedgI have no clue.  I know if I do something like bug 1 I think it picks that up.22:31
ubot4tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)22:32
tedgsf 2343422:32
tedgHeh, nope :)22:32
tedgI think there's a #ubuntu-irc channel, and they manage all the Ubuntu related channel.  They're the IRC jocks :)22:33
mccannah ha22:33
mccanngoogle wins this time22:33
mccannhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots22:33
tedgWow, crazy.  All kinds of commands.22:35
tedgAnyway, heading out.  Have a good evening!22:35

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