=== MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === njpatel_ is now known as njpatel|away [21:38] hey tedg around? [21:41] mccann: Yup. [21:41] mccann: How are you today? [21:41] not bad - weather sucks [21:41] you? [21:41] Weather is finally getting good again, so I'm thrilled :) [21:41] it probably isn't sleeting where you are [21:42] No, I really can't complain. The worth thing I could complain about is a little windy :) [21:42] so I'm trying to catch up on all this notification spec stuff on xdg list etc [21:42] I've seen mentions of 0.10 version of the spec [21:42] do you have any idea where that is? [21:42] galago doesn't have it and chip doesn't really know [21:43] Ah, so libnotify like notification. Or NotificationItem? [21:43] * tedg loves the naming. [21:43] um libnotify i guess [21:43] Hmm, I thought that spec went 1.0 [21:44] for example http://patches.ubuntu.com/libn/libnotify/libnotify_0.4.5-1ubuntu1.patch [21:44] says 0.10 [21:44] oh is there a 1.0? [21:44] galago only has 0.9 [21:44] Yeah, hmm, and the notify-osd page links to Galago too. [21:45] * mccann is confused [21:45] Sorry, I thought there'd be a link on the notify-osd page. mpt is usually really good about linking all that stuff. [21:46] well maybe he's having the same problems finding it that I am [21:48] I think everyone I could ping who would know is either European or off for MLK day :( [21:48] If I remember right, the only changes in 0.10 were cleanups for things like the mark up. [21:49] I believe there were some holes in the definition of that where it actually wouldn't work with Pango. [21:49] I think it also added a different icon data format that the KDE guys were interested in as the current one was basically a GdkPixbuf dump. [21:51] Err, it seems like this WAS the link: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/notifications-0.10/spec/ [21:52] gone [21:52] darn [21:53] Here, this works: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/notifications-1.1/spec/ [21:53] oh [21:53] ! [21:53] * tedg had to find that with SSH :( [21:53] YAY [21:53] thanks [21:54] No problem. Sorry it was so difficult. [21:54] google did not help at all [21:54] bad google [21:54] should have tried bing [21:56] Heh, it would have just taken you to MSDN as that's what you REALLY want :) [22:19] mccann: BTW, I think I know what you guys are thinking about doing with the notifications spec in shell with the notification bar. [22:20] And we looked at that a lot for the messaging menu. I'm not sure it'll work. [22:20] Not because of anything spec related, but because of how people are using libnotify. [22:20] tedg: I'm trying to stay out of the specifics :) [22:20] danw has been leading that [22:21] Heh, I understand. But the apps issue is really huge. [22:21] which issue is that? [22:21] That's why we went ahead and did the libindicate work. [22:21] The fact that the apps drop the notifications. They don't track them at all. [22:22] But then they expect events. So you'll have to synthesize some of them. [22:22] I'm not saying it's impossible, but it'll be a PITA. [22:22] oh i'm certain of that part [22:22] :) [22:23] * tedg feels for danw [22:23] for now I'd settle for having one version of the spec [22:23] and one copy of libnotify [22:23] right now there are way too many different expectations [22:24] anyway I'm still trying to get caught up on what's going on [22:24] Yes, that is true. [22:24] Anyway. I think there's only a couple of changes you guys would need in libindicate to make your interaction work. [22:25] I'd be happy to make those. [22:25] And someday, I'll try to document things and get it to XDG. :-/ [22:25] * tedg needs more time in the day. [22:26] if you want to join #gnome-shell and talk to danw directly that'd be cool [22:26] i don't have too much to offer to the conversation yet [22:27] I'm about to go make dinner here in a few, so I can't talk for too long. [22:28] So, I'll try to do that tomorrow. [22:28] I'm guessing he's also off today? [22:28] i just mean anytime [22:29] we didn't get the day off today [22:29] but he usually heads out around now so yeah tomorrow would be fine [22:29] Really? That's odd. I thought MLK day was pretty universal. [22:29] Must be an East Coast thing. [22:29] * tedg has never lived on the East Coast. [22:30] some do some don't [22:31] hey what type of bots do you guys use here? [22:31] i'm wondering if i should set one up on gimpnet [22:31] don't know much about them [22:31] I have no clue. I know if I do something like bug 1 I think it picks that up. [22:32] tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug) [22:32] sf 23434 [22:32] Heh, nope :) [22:33] I think there's a #ubuntu-irc channel, and they manage all the Ubuntu related channel. They're the IRC jocks :) [22:33] ah ha [22:33] google wins this time [22:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [22:35] Wow, crazy. All kinds of commands. [22:35] Anyway, heading out. Have a good evening!