| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| BUGabundo_remote | mornign | 10:28 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | hi | 10:29 |
| * BUGabundo_remote wonders if I can persuade fta to do a sporadic build of ChromiumOS | 10:41 | |
| fta | BUGabundo_remote, ins't someone else already doing that? | 10:46 |
| fta | as some canonical people are involved in this project, they probably have what's needed to build images | 10:47 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no idea fta. if so, please point me to him/het | 10:47 |
| fta | asac, ^^ | 10:48 |
| asac | TBD | 10:49 |
| fta | BUGabundo_remote, ^^ does that help? | 11:15 |
| fta | lol | 11:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | nickles | 11:17 |
| BUGabundo_remote | :( | 11:17 |
| fta | asac, metacity? | 11:23 |
| fta | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/lg-display-announces-19-inch-flexible-e-paper-display-15-01-2010/ | 11:31 |
| fta | gasp, the chromium new tab page is now themed, it's ugly with DarkRoom | 12:06 |
| * BUGabundo_remote uses its own GTK and Ch theme | 12:09 | |
| [reed] | asac: "system-myspell"? that's really out of date | 12:16 |
| [reed] | it's hunspell now for quite a while | 12:17 |
| [reed] | system-hunspell, etc. | 12:17 |
| asac | [reed]: where did you pick that? | 12:18 |
| asac | in the commit i just made? | 12:18 |
| [reed] | yeah | 12:18 |
| asac | thats ffox 3.5 branch still ;9 | 12:19 |
| asac | i think that worked there | 12:19 |
| asac | but i will double check | 12:19 |
| [reed] | we've been using hunspell since 3.0, I think | 12:19 |
| [reed] | quite a while | 12:19 |
| asac | yeah. i think its just an alias | 12:19 |
| [reed] | it's not | 12:19 |
| [reed] | I checked | 12:19 |
| asac | configure wise | 12:19 |
| asac | ok. i will see. its now disabled anyway by default ;) | 12:20 |
| asac | guess there is no info about the new release channel policy yet? | 12:20 |
| [reed] | no, let me poke beltzner about that later today | 12:21 |
| [reed] | I just don't think stuff has been completely decided | 12:21 |
| [reed] | mainly focused on getting 3.6 out the door | 12:21 |
| [reed] | which is happening Very Soon Now(tm) | 12:22 |
| asac | yeah. i would just love to move to the new package names now that i am doing this | 12:22 |
| asac | like firefox firefox-next firefox-dev firefox-daily ;) .... or whatever. | 12:22 |
| asac | but i already explained that, so i stop the noise now ;) | 12:22 |
| asac | e.g. my firefox-3.6 upload to lucid is kinda blocked on that info | 12:23 |
| asac | dont want to introduce another new package if thats going away anywa | 12:23 |
| asac | yy | 12:23 |
| [reed] | when does lucid ship? | 12:26 |
| [reed] | April? | 12:26 |
| [reed] | 3.6 will still be around then, I'm fairly sure | 12:26 |
| asac | no... thats not it | 12:27 |
| asac | we want to move to new package names, otherwise we have to add transitional packages all the time | 12:28 |
| asac | so we want to have the current firefox always be firefox | 12:28 |
| asac | but we still want to ship packages that can be installed side by side for all the branches | 12:28 |
| asac | but if those branches are not like "dev etc" channel | 12:28 |
| asac | the best thing we can do to describe them is by version | 12:29 |
| asac | i just hoped you go to a release channel approach and lurked that somewhere | 12:29 |
| asac | thats why i am waiting to understnad that and avoid another versioned upload ;) | 12:29 |
| [reed] | Lorentz is weird | 12:30 |
| [reed] | I'll try to collect all your thoughts you've sent me | 12:30 |
| [reed] | and talk to beltzner | 12:30 |
| fta | ok, that's it. i'm sick of those metacity restarts. i'll push it to my own ppa as i did for karmic :( | 12:51 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| BUGabundo_remote | fta: getting reports of broken Ch daily | 13:40 |
| asac | one daily didnt build | 13:41 |
| asac | todays should be there again | 13:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | fta: getting reports of broken Ch daily | 13:43 |
| fta | BUGabundo_remote, ? what's the problem(s)? | 13:43 |
| fta | wfm | 13:43 |
| BUGabundo_remote | co-worker says it crashes | 13:43 |
| BUGabundo_remote | asking for logs/tarces | 13:44 |
| BUGabundo_remote | fta: constant snaps | 13:44 |
| BUGabundo_remote | on several pages | 13:44 |
| fta | BUGabundo_remote, got more info? | 15:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | nope | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | he just went to use Chrome, instead | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | :( | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | wfm too in lucid fully updated | 15:55 |
| fta | well, nothing i can do then | 16:20 |
| BUGabundo_remote | well debian aint exactly your target distro either :D | 16:31 |
| fta | imho, that branding thing is a disaster | 16:44 |
| asac | which branding thing | 16:48 |
| asac | ? | 16:49 |
| fta | chrome vs chromium | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ehe | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | specially since chromuim is the code name for the source too | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | and the OS :P | 16:54 |
| fta | not that, more that the heavily marketed name is Chrome, it's everywhere | 16:57 |
| asac | fta: you are not alone ;) | 16:57 |
| asac | but be happy that its not names chrome | 16:57 |
| fta | Chromium is nowhere | 16:57 |
| asac | named | 16:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | asac: like firefox chrome stylesheats ? eheh | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | *sheets | 16:58 |
| fta | as if we were shipping ff3.5 as shiretoko instead of firefox | 17:13 |
| fta | no one would have a clue of what it is, and jump to upstream binaries | 17:13 |
| micahg | fta: we already did that and got an earful for it | 17:13 |
| fta | that's exactly what happens with chromium, only a few tech people know what it is | 17:13 |
| micahg | just the branding even | 17:14 |
| fta | micahg, nope, i'm talking about package name, not just the branding | 17:14 |
| micahg | right, which should be even worse | 17:14 |
| Nikratio | Is it a known bug that thunderbird-3.0 shows only the English dictionary in the Spell menu, even if other hunspell or myspell languages are installed? | 17:28 |
| * micahg can see the issue | 17:29 | |
| micahg | Nikratio: please file a bug and tag ppa | 17:30 |
| micahg | in thunderbird package | 17:30 |
| Nikratio | On which package? | 17:30 |
| Nikratio | will do | 17:30 |
| micahg | Nikratio: thanks | 17:30 |
| Nikratio | Can I mark it as confirmed? | 17:33 |
| Nikratio | (will do, please revert if wrong. Bug #509248) | 17:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 509248 in thunderbird "[PPA] Shows only English dictionary in Spell menu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509248 | 17:39 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| clamiam | Q: is installing firefox 3.6 from yall's PPA pretty straightforward? When I mark 3.6 to install in synaptic, it looks like most of the old packages are going to stick around...is this a problem? | 19:58 |
| micahg | clamiam: they are meant to be run side by sid | 19:59 |
| clamiam | ah | 19:59 |
| clamiam | oh sorry, i should've said thanks :) | 20:05 |
| micahg | clamiam: np | 20:05 |
| === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox | ||
| BUGabundo | fta: chromium is really broken | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | every single page snaps | 22:49 |
| fta | ? | 22:49 |
| fta | still wfm, it's my primary (and only) browser now | 22:50 |
| fta | version? url? | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | how can I run it in debug mode? | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | greader , http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2010/01/maneater-will-this-do.html, identica | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | etc | 22:50 |
| fta | wfm | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | stop saying tat | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | I get it | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | but it doesn't for everyone else | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | and I'm trying to debug it | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | so mind proving a way to do it ? | 22:51 |
| fta | a french guy seems to have the same problem, he gave a (nice) link; http://hq-models.blogspot.com/ | 22:52 |
| fta | but it wfm too | 22:52 |
| fta | so i can't reproduce | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | snap | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | tehre | 22:52 |
| fta | try with a fresh profile: chromium-browser --user-data-dir=/tmp/foo1 --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/foo2 | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | working so far | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | if I close and start my regular profile, I get it back | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | [reed]: will it ever be possible to open more then on Firefox process?? | 23:07 |
| fta | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/01/why-microsoft-isnt-working-on-silverlight-64-bit.ars | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | [reed]: I have one window open at another X by the same user (remote connected by FreeNX) and trying to open a new FF in this X, and fails :( | 23:08 |
| fta | BUGabundo, electrolysis | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | fta: ? | 23:08 |
| fta | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | " nobody uses 64-bit browsers." | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | LIES LIES LIES | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | I use it daily | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | and I'm somebody | 23:09 |
| fta | but you are 0.0000000001% of the market ;) | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | I'm responsible for at least 6 browsers :D | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | s/browsers/machines/ | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | fta: since you like stats so much, how many of *buntu users runs 64 vs 32? | 23:13 |
| fta | not much | 23:14 |
| fta | about 10% | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 23:15 |
| fta | ubuntu doesn't even provide 64bit CDs anymore | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | I was expecting >40% | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | yeah, that's a big failure :( | 23:15 |
| fta | http://www.osnews.com/story/22754/France_Joins_Germany_Warning_Against_Internet_Explorer | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | read it | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | fta: if 64bits and linux is soooooo small, why is Apple making a 64bits plugin ? | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | touché | 23:18 |
| sebner | we need more bloated software -> more ram -> more 64bit user ;) | 23:18 |
| sebner | BUGabundo: apple generally migrated OS X to 64 bit | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | s/apple/adobe/ | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | memory Fail | 23:19 |
| sebner | heh | 23:19 |
| fta | BUGabundo, "Flash, arguably the most important plugin for day-to-day browsing, doesn't have any 64-bit support except for an alpha Linux version released in November 2008." | 23:20 |
| fta | hardly a really support for 64bit | 23:21 |
| fta | real | 23:21 |
| fta | chromium-browser 27491 1.94% 4409 16362 6713 7 | 23:28 |
| fta | google-chrome-beta 24130 1.70% 15844 2621 5652 13 | 23:28 |
| fta | google-chrome-unstable 21038 1.49% 4857 13075 3084 22 | 23:28 |
| fta | so most users of unstable installed the beta and ended up with both | 23:29 |
| fta | but if those stats are correct, google-chrome-beta has more regular users than chromium-browser | 23:29 |
| fta | 15844 >> 4409 | 23:30 |
| fta | but 4409+16362 > 15844+2621 | 23:30 |
| === gandi_ is now known as gandi | ||
| fta | BUGabundo, http://blog.hexxeh.net/ | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | but I don't trust _strange_ devs | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | with my data and HW | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | I already trust *you* too much | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | but I'm not fanatic enough to run gentoo and compile it all my self, *just* to be sure | 23:39 |
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