=== micahg1 is now known as micahg === asac_ is now known as asac === micahg1 is now known as micahg [10:28] mornign [10:29] hi [10:41] * BUGabundo_remote wonders if I can persuade fta to do a sporadic build of ChromiumOS [10:46] BUGabundo_remote, ins't someone else already doing that? [10:47] as some canonical people are involved in this project, they probably have what's needed to build images [10:47] no idea fta. if so, please point me to him/het [10:48] asac, ^^ [10:49] TBD [11:15] BUGabundo_remote, ^^ does that help? [11:15] lol [11:17] nickles [11:17] :( [11:23] asac, metacity? [11:31] http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/lg-display-announces-19-inch-flexible-e-paper-display-15-01-2010/ [12:06] gasp, the chromium new tab page is now themed, it's ugly with DarkRoom [12:09] * BUGabundo_remote uses its own GTK and Ch theme [12:16] <[reed]> asac: "system-myspell"? that's really out of date [12:17] <[reed]> it's hunspell now for quite a while [12:17] <[reed]> system-hunspell, etc. [12:18] [reed]: where did you pick that? [12:18] in the commit i just made? [12:18] <[reed]> yeah [12:19] thats ffox 3.5 branch still ;9 [12:19] i think that worked there [12:19] but i will double check [12:19] <[reed]> we've been using hunspell since 3.0, I think [12:19] <[reed]> quite a while [12:19] yeah. i think its just an alias [12:19] <[reed]> it's not [12:19] <[reed]> I checked [12:19] configure wise [12:20] ok. i will see. its now disabled anyway by default ;) [12:20] guess there is no info about the new release channel policy yet? [12:21] <[reed]> no, let me poke beltzner about that later today [12:21] <[reed]> I just don't think stuff has been completely decided [12:21] <[reed]> mainly focused on getting 3.6 out the door [12:22] <[reed]> which is happening Very Soon Now(tm) [12:22] yeah. i would just love to move to the new package names now that i am doing this [12:22] like firefox firefox-next firefox-dev firefox-daily ;) .... or whatever. [12:22] but i already explained that, so i stop the noise now ;) [12:23] e.g. my firefox-3.6 upload to lucid is kinda blocked on that info [12:23] dont want to introduce another new package if thats going away anywa [12:23] yy [12:26] <[reed]> when does lucid ship? [12:26] <[reed]> April? [12:26] <[reed]> 3.6 will still be around then, I'm fairly sure [12:27] no... thats not it [12:28] we want to move to new package names, otherwise we have to add transitional packages all the time [12:28] so we want to have the current firefox always be firefox [12:28] but we still want to ship packages that can be installed side by side for all the branches [12:28] but if those branches are not like "dev etc" channel [12:29] the best thing we can do to describe them is by version [12:29] i just hoped you go to a release channel approach and lurked that somewhere [12:29] thats why i am waiting to understnad that and avoid another versioned upload ;) [12:30] <[reed]> Lorentz is weird [12:30] <[reed]> I'll try to collect all your thoughts you've sent me [12:30] <[reed]> and talk to beltzner [12:51] ok, that's it. i'm sick of those metacity restarts. i'll push it to my own ppa as i did for karmic :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:40] fta: getting reports of broken Ch daily [13:41] one daily didnt build [13:41] todays should be there again [13:43] fta: getting reports of broken Ch daily [13:43] BUGabundo_remote, ? what's the problem(s)? [13:43] wfm [13:43] co-worker says it crashes [13:44] asking for logs/tarces [13:44] fta: constant snaps [13:44] on several pages [15:48] BUGabundo_remote, got more info? [15:55] nope [15:55] he just went to use Chrome, instead [15:55] :( [15:55] wfm too in lucid fully updated [16:20] well, nothing i can do then [16:31] well debian aint exactly your target distro either :D [16:44] imho, that branding thing is a disaster [16:48] which branding thing [16:49] ? [16:49] chrome vs chromium [16:54] ehe [16:54] specially since chromuim is the code name for the source too [16:54] and the OS :P [16:57] not that, more that the heavily marketed name is Chrome, it's everywhere [16:57] fta: you are not alone ;) [16:57] but be happy that its not names chrome [16:57] Chromium is nowhere [16:57] named [16:58] asac: like firefox chrome stylesheats ? eheh [16:58] *sheets [17:13] as if we were shipping ff3.5 as shiretoko instead of firefox [17:13] no one would have a clue of what it is, and jump to upstream binaries [17:13] fta: we already did that and got an earful for it [17:13] that's exactly what happens with chromium, only a few tech people know what it is [17:14] just the branding even [17:14] micahg, nope, i'm talking about package name, not just the branding [17:14] right, which should be even worse [17:28] Is it a known bug that thunderbird-3.0 shows only the English dictionary in the Spell menu, even if other hunspell or myspell languages are installed? [17:29] * micahg can see the issue [17:30] Nikratio: please file a bug and tag ppa [17:30] in thunderbird package [17:30] On which package? [17:30] will do [17:30] Nikratio: thanks [17:33] Can I mark it as confirmed? [17:39] (will do, please revert if wrong. Bug #509248) [17:39] Launchpad bug 509248 in thunderbird "[PPA] Shows only English dictionary in Spell menu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509248 === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [19:58] Q: is installing firefox 3.6 from yall's PPA pretty straightforward? When I mark 3.6 to install in synaptic, it looks like most of the old packages are going to stick around...is this a problem? [19:59] clamiam: they are meant to be run side by sid [19:59] ah [20:05] oh sorry, i should've said thanks :) [20:05] clamiam: np === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [22:49] fta: chromium is really broken [22:49] every single page snaps [22:49] ? [22:50] still wfm, it's my primary (and only) browser now [22:50] version? url? [22:50] how can I run it in debug mode? [22:50] greader , http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2010/01/maneater-will-this-do.html, identica [22:50] etc [22:51] wfm [22:51] stop saying tat [22:51] I get it [22:51] but it doesn't for everyone else [22:51] and I'm trying to debug it [22:51] so mind proving a way to do it ? [22:52] a french guy seems to have the same problem, he gave a (nice) link; http://hq-models.blogspot.com/ [22:52] but it wfm too [22:52] so i can't reproduce [22:52] snap [22:52] tehre [22:53] try with a fresh profile: chromium-browser --user-data-dir=/tmp/foo1 --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/foo2 [22:54] working so far [22:55] if I close and start my regular profile, I get it back [23:07] [reed]: will it ever be possible to open more then on Firefox process?? [23:07] http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/01/why-microsoft-isnt-working-on-silverlight-64-bit.ars [23:08] [reed]: I have one window open at another X by the same user (remote connected by FreeNX) and trying to open a new FF in this X, and fails :( [23:08] BUGabundo, electrolysis [23:08] fta: ? [23:08] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes [23:09] " nobody uses 64-bit browsers." [23:09] LIES LIES LIES [23:09] I use it daily [23:09] and I'm somebody [23:12] but you are 0.0000000001% of the market ;) [23:13] I'm responsible for at least 6 browsers :D [23:13] s/browsers/machines/ [23:13] fta: since you like stats so much, how many of *buntu users runs 64 vs 32? [23:14] not much [23:14] about 10% [23:15] really? [23:15] ubuntu doesn't even provide 64bit CDs anymore [23:15] I was expecting >40% [23:15] yeah, that's a big failure :( [23:17] http://www.osnews.com/story/22754/France_Joins_Germany_Warning_Against_Internet_Explorer [23:17] eheh [23:17] read it [23:17] fta: if 64bits and linux is soooooo small, why is Apple making a 64bits plugin ? [23:18] touché [23:18] we need more bloated software -> more ram -> more 64bit user ;) [23:18] BUGabundo: apple generally migrated OS X to 64 bit [23:18] s/apple/adobe/ [23:19] memory Fail [23:19] heh [23:20] BUGabundo, "Flash, arguably the most important plugin for day-to-day browsing, doesn't have any 64-bit support except for an alpha Linux version released in November 2008." [23:21] hardly a really support for 64bit [23:21] real [23:28] chromium-browser 27491 1.94% 4409 16362 6713 7 [23:28] google-chrome-beta 24130 1.70% 15844 2621 5652 13 [23:28] google-chrome-unstable 21038 1.49% 4857 13075 3084 22 [23:29] so most users of unstable installed the beta and ended up with both [23:29] but if those stats are correct, google-chrome-beta has more regular users than chromium-browser [23:30] 15844 >> 4409 [23:30] but 4409+16362 > 15844+2621 === gandi_ is now known as gandi [23:37] BUGabundo, http://blog.hexxeh.net/ [23:37] I know [23:38] but I don't trust _strange_ devs [23:38] with my data and HW [23:38] I already trust *you* too much [23:39] but I'm not fanatic enough to run gentoo and compile it all my self, *just* to be sure